Wednesday Forum: July, 11, 2018

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  1. JC

    Trump looked repulsed by that drunken bum.

    At an event like that, it is repulsive. Says everything there is to know about the EU.

  2. JC

    Al copped being hung upside down, beaten and shaken down for several billion dollars and other indignities. Now:

    Saudi Prince Alwaleed pledges support for crown prince’s reforms…

  3. v_maet

    https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/12/starbucks-straw-ban-will-see-the-company

    Starbucks Bans Plastic Straws, Winds Up Using More Plastic
    A Reason investigation reveals that the coffee giant’s new cold drink lids use more plastic than the old straw/lid combo.

    A Starbucks spokesperson told Reason “the introduction of our strawless lid as the standard for non-blended beverages by 2020 allows us to significantly reduce the number of straws and non-recyclable plastic” as the new lids are recyclable, while the plastic straws the company currently uses are not.

    This is cold comfort given the fact that even most of the stuff that is put in recycling bins still winds up at the dump.

  4. Death Giraffe

    Thanks C.L. Often wonder what the world would be like if it was populated by wall to wall humans, as some here seem to envisage. Most species made extinct in the struggle for territory, exploitation as ‘commodities’ and because they serve no purpose. Except rats, mice and cockroaches which cling to human habitation with steadfast determination. What a wonderful world.

    ..
    If every last marine mammal was exterminated it would make zero difference to you.
    Except maybe fish would be more plentiful.
    “Magnificent creatures”.
    Horseshit.
    Gigantic globs of floating putrid blubber.
    Utterly useless and the amount of time you would spend thinking about them once they were all safely in their cold watery graves would amount to 0.0000000001% of your life.
    And that would be too much.

  5. Makka

    Re: Brexit and relations with US. It is worth remembering some facts;

    – UK exports to US is around double that with Germany.
    – Around 50% of FDI into the UK comes from outside the EU, most of that from the US.
    -The US is by far the biggest recipient of FDI from the UK.
    – The UK is 2nd only to the Netherlands in FDI from the US.

    Trump of course is all over this and rightly is stating the obvious case. UK has already made it’s choice and May is subverting the will of the people.There will be consequences.

    The US is yuuuuugely important to the UK and vv. Any numbskull stating otherwise is pig ignorant, Grigs.

  6. Mother Lode

    the focus must be on prevention and diversion programs.His recommendations include keeping minor offences by young people out of the courts, more flexible options to keep young Queenslanders engaged in education, and support for parents as early as the prenatal stage.

    Laxer enforcement and more social worker guff has led to increases in crime over the years.

    All of it along the lines that the little shits aren’t responsible, and if they are we won’t hold them so responsible. So they don’t bother to restrain themselves. They can do what they like and get a smack on the hand.

    All these silly initiatives and reports seem to rely on the image of a human as being fearlessly or even obsessively reflective, devoted to rational thought, and profoundly motivated by a desire to be a good citizen.

    Most habitual things are done with minimal conscious thought. Boiling an egg, buying a ticket, pushing a lefty in front of oncoming traffic is habit. In fact it is often impossible to make people change their minds with rational argument. It takes a predisposition that these little vermin have not incorporated – and certainly won’t if we tell them they can just live their pointless lives in the moment. if they want.

  7. Makka

    “Magnificent creatures”.
    Horseshit.

    Horseshit to those who have no soul.

  8. JC

    You know, it’s pretty incredible seeing the EU Commission, Juncker walking around drunk. It’s incredible how the leaders of the members states weren’t outraged by this behavior. They were smiling about it. They should have sent him home, never be seen again.

  9. calli

    Sunday morning I’m taking the grandsons to see the magnificent bits of blubber doing their biannual migration. Hopefully they’ll tapdance for us across the swell.

  10. Delta A

    Death Giraffe
    #2762326, posted on July 13, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    You’ve OD’d on your grouchy pills, Arky.

    Whales are magnificent.

    From my balcony, I’ve seen Southern Rights – sometimes in pairs and with junior – rise from the water to wave a mighty hellooo! or whack their tail down, sending up a fountain of spray. It’s breathtaking!

    And every time the same prayer whooshes from deep within me: Thank you, God, for such a majestic creature.

  11. Stimpson J. Cat

    What a wonderful world.

    Do you know why there is no World Whale Wildlife Fund established by whales to care for other animals?
    Because the best an animal can ever do is follow it’s instincts, while the best a human can do is rise above it’s instincts and care about creatures that simply don’t give a f$ck about anything but themselves, to the detriment of other humans that desperately need their help and could potentially one day discover a solution to all of the problems you are complaining about, including the extinction of whales.
    While animals swan about looking majestic doing f$ck all for anyone except themselves.

    Goddamn Hippies Jesus Christ.

  12. Death Giraffe

    You may think I’m playing the nature hatred for laughs.
    No.
    I despise the romanticisation of nature.
    It is the same species of falsification as the earliest Marxists applied to the working class.
    The same fake emotion the greenies apply to “virgin wilderness”.
    The same stupid fictions the new anthropologists tell about stone age peoples.
    A lie.
    Lies are dangerous.
    New age hippy stupidity and hypocrisy.
    The same retarded morons blithering on about the majesty of whales are those who celebrate deindustrialisation and believe they have done working people a favour by closing their factories and underming their religions and institutions.
    These same fuck knuckles will be the first to bludgeon to death any living thing in order to survive the distopian nightmare industry and energy free hellscape created by their wrongheaded stupidity.
    They will pray to the God they claim does not exist for a whale oil lamp to keep them warm.

  13. calli

    He won’t be drunk. It will be “medication” or a “condition”.

    These empty pantaloons appear to be getting a long overdue lesson. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

  14. jupes

    Trump looked repulsed by that drunken bum.

    The insane deros of Perth have more dignity than that fuckwit.

  15. C.L.

    America is going gangbusters

    ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
    Wall Street traders are convinced the coming US earnings season will be stunning, with profits set to soar more than 20pc.

    And all it took was getting rid of that communist pansy Soetoro.

  16. calli

    Have some Gripe Water DG.

    Burrrrrrp.

  17. thefrolickingmole

    My spies in Brussels have been hard at work.

    Scene: The EU presidential palace
    Time: 3 hours before Trumpando arrives.

    Sir Humphrey: “President Junker have you prepared your response for President Trumps demands for increased defence spending and loweing trade barriers”
    Junker: “Bah the man is a fool, a dupe, a pawn of Putin, I have been preparing by training hard and fast to drink him under the table”…
    Sir Humprey: “But Mr Junker, Trump doesnt drink”…..

    Thats a humiliating video, hes got to the full high stepping stage of “wobble boots” and the sun is still shining.

  18. Makka

    Some Juncker quotes;

    When the going gets tough, you have to lie.

    Jean-Claude Juncker

    I am for secret, dark debates.

    Jean-Claude Juncker

    A swamp creature of the highest order.

  19. Stimpson J. Cat

    Haven’t any of you watched A Dogs Purpose for f$cks sake?
    That explains the whole system perfectly.

  20. JC

    And all it took was getting rid of that communist pansy Soetoro.

    Just taking into account the signaling to markets , leaving aside all the reforms he’s conducted ( although it’s hard to separate the two) is so important.

  21. Death Giraffe

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2762342, posted on July 13, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    Haven’t any of you watched A Dogs Purpose for f$cks sake?
    That explains the whole system perfectly.

    ..
    Dogs are great.
    Dogs were engineered by humans for generations to produce something useful.
    As is almost every other species of beast you see, interact with or place in your mouth.

  22. Stimpson J. Cat

    The insane deros of Perth have more dignity than that fuckwit.

    Indeed we do, good Sir.
    Indeed we do.

  23. thefrolickingmole

    Haven’t any of you watched A Dogs Purpose for f$cks sake?

    From memory its to eat your food and crap on your lawn?
    Is that it?

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s a fantastic movie, just heartwarming family fun.
    4 out of 5 stars.

  25. Delta A

    Wall Street traders are convinced the coming US earnings season will be stunning, with profits set to soar more than 20pc.

    I’ll get this one for you, Monty: “That’s Obama’s legacy working.”

  26. jupes

    The same retarded morons blithering on about the majesty of whales are those who celebrate deindustrialisation and believe they have done working people a favour by closing their factories and underming their religions and institutions.

    Not always DG. Many conservatives appreciate the beauty of nature while at the same time realising that civilisation is the taming of the harsh effects of nature.

    I find a lot more majesty and beauty in birds than whales, nevertheless I reckon the rare encounters I’ve had with whales have been pretty special even if only for the rarity of the experience. Saw one at the mariner at the Spit in Sydney once. Even little whales (aka dolphins) are pretty cool to spot. There’s been a few in the Swan River lately.

  27. Stimpson J. Cat

    The money you selfish b$stards want to spend on whales could put a smile on the face of a poor unconventionally attractive agile mentally ill man,
    and hair on his troubled head.
    Just think about that the next time you donate to those f$cking hippies.

  28. Gab

    I’m probably wrong but the EU president doesn’t look drunk to me. He looks as though he has a medical condition.

  29. Stimpson J. Cat

    If you b$stards start BON talking about birds I am going to go nuts.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Wall Street traders are convinced the coming US earnings season will be stunning, with profits set to soar more than 20pc.

    A couple of my ASX favourites with high US exposure (Cochlear and CSL) have closed above $200 today.
    Up 30% and 40% respectively over 12 months.

  31. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Apparently Juncker gets wasted like this all the time and his staff have to blame it on “sciatica”.

    I’m getting sciatca face tonight.

  32. Death Giraffe

    I reckon the rare encounters I’ve had with whales have been pretty special even if only for the rarity of the experience.

    ..
    Precisely.
    If you had been in a boat in the 17 or 1800’s when the bloody things were everywhere you would much less enamoured of them.
    Imagine if whales were like kangaroos.
    You would curse them.
    Espeacially if one ran out in front of your car.
    Now understand this: the way you feel about whales is the same way people like you from overseas think about kangaroos.
    To them, kangaroos ard magical and wonderful creatures and you a criminal for wanting to shoot them.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do you know why there is no World Whale Wildlife Fund established by whales to care for other animals?

    It’s called the World Whale Experience now.
    Sort of cross between wrestling and sumo.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently Juncker gets wasted like this all the time and his staff have to blame it on “sciatica”.

    I’m getting sciatca face tonight.

    Apparently Fatty Doyle had post lunch sciatica most days.

  35. Stimpson J. Cat

    Don’t you do it Bruce.

  36. JC

    A couple of my ASX favourites with high US exposure

    Just buy the real thing.

  37. Delta A

    Just think about that the next time you donate to those f$cking hippies.

    You and Arky seem to think that only greenies/hippies like whales.

    I like frogs, too… and spider monkeys, meerkats, possums (sorry, Gab) huntsman spiders, kissing gouramis, kelpies and pussy cats. However, I do not and never will donate to any animal-type fund or charity. Nor do I celebrate deindustrialisation. Quite the opposite.

    Stop with the generalisations.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    If you had been in a boat in the 17 or 1800’s when the bloody things were everywhere you would much less enamoured of them.

    This is what worries me about the plastic bag ban.
    If they are so deadly and suddenly we cut off the supply, we will be knee deep in dolphins and turtles by Christmas.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Just buy the real thing

    I’ve been thinking that ship has sailed but maybe not.
    I might beef up the small NYSE index fund I have.

  40. Death Giraffe

    And every time the same prayer whooshes from deep within me: Thank you, God, for such a majestic creature.

    ..
    Imagine how much more special the experience would be, and how much closer to nature you would feel Delta, if you could harpoon those things from your balcony.

  41. Nick

    Reading this in the Times at Zurich airport:

    74 year old ex diplomat attacked on a platform at Victoria Station at 3pm by teenagers who apparently wanted to rob him. London is rooted.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/girl-15-arrested-over-sir-christopher-meyer-tube-attack-at-victoria-8qbw3mb58

  42. Bruce in WA

    … away again til November.

    Dear Lord, thank you.

  43. Stimpson J. Cat

    However, I do not and never will donate to any animal-type fund or charity. Nor do I celebrate deindustrialisation. Quite the opposite.
    Stop with the generalisations.

    I am prepared to believe you may not be a hippy.

  44. Delta A

    if you could harpoon those things from your balcony.

    My brother suggested that when he first came to visit – and saw his first whale. Throw in a spot of flensing on the beach and it would be the ideal tourist attraction, according to him.

  45. Confused Old Misfit

    I’m probably wrong

    No, Gab. You are right. It’s call alcoholism.

  46. Death Giraffe

    In the past people had a far less sentimental and far more healthy attitude to the natural world.
    Our job was to kill a sample of each species, study and categorise the specimen, and figure out what good it was for.
    Not rabbit on about how “majestic” it was.
    Such a spirit built the modern world.
    Some other peoples will build the future.
    We haven’t got it in us anymore.

  47. Delta A

    Whales can be as crafty and self-serving as humans. From The Eden (NSW) Whale Museum:

    Old Tom

  48. Mother Lode

    How is it that these magnificent, intelligent, krill-munching titans can’t avoid whaling vessels that putter their way about on the surface and occupy even the a vanishingly small part of the ocean that is not their natural home?

  49. Fisky

    LOL, just another Koch Brothers front group calling for world government…

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  50. Fisky

    Hahaha!

    Dick “Brick” Harrow

    @Saxon_Gab
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    You got your next fat, neck beard stripper picked out for the next convention yet?

  51. Baldrick

    Jean-Claude Juncker quotes:
    Make Europeans Pissed Again

  52. “Nationalism, on the whole, represents one of the key forces inimical to liberalism in the modern world. Even those nationalisms that profess liberty or peace as the key to national identity are rooted in ethical collectivism.”

    This is boilerplate international socialism.

  53. cohenite

    Death Giraffe

    #2762335, posted on July 13, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    You may think I’m playing the nature hatred for laughs.
    No.

    Well said. Mother nature is a bitch.

  54. Shy Ted

    My predictions for the weekend – on Radio National Geraldine Doogue will interview someone you’ve never heard of about a book no-one has ever read and laugh in a most affected manner for no reason. Followed by Jonathon Green’ Guide to Better Living where he talks to someone about their thimble and teaspoon collections after which he goes out fox-hunting to take his anger about what carp he has to present to remain on Aunty’ teat out on some defenceless animal.

  55. Mother Lode

    The word ‘msgnificent’, regarding our sea-going co-mammals, has been overdone.

    I would like to substitute the words ‘majestic’, ‘awe-inspiring’, ‘beautiful, ‘sublime’, ‘colossal, ‘graceful’ or ‘rippling with a thriving layer of unspeakable, prolific primordial filth’.

    Up to you.

  56. zyconoclast

    The media went wild over the last few days about the story of a 91-year-old Hispanic man who was brutally beaten in Los Angeles by a “woman” who was yelling that he should “go back” to his country.
    The media played the story without bothering to tell race of the “woman” and many liberals went crazy to attack “Trump’s America” because “white women” are now trying to kill Hispanics. Only there was one problem with the left’s narrative: the “woman” ended up being black.

  57. Tel

    Even those nationalisms that profess liberty or peace as the key to national identity are rooted in ethical collectivism.

    What does it mean “ethical collectivism” ?

  58. Makka

    The usual ponzi parasites just hate to see the advantage swing towards Australian citizens and wage earners. Business and the Unions team up to screw Australia;

    The results were criticised by Migration Council Australia, which warned cabinet should set the migration level, while a reduction in numbers could slow economic growth.

    In May a group of peak bodies coordinated a broad alliance including the Australian Council of Trade Unions and the Australian Industry Group that called for the permanent migration intake to remain at 190,000.

    The Ai Group chief executive, Innes Willox, said although the migration intake often falls short of the cap, it was “disappointing” that migration levels had dropped “so significantly below the 2017-18 intake”.

  59. 132andBush

    From my balcony, I’ve seen Southern Rights – sometimes in pairs and with junior

    As opposed to the Sothern Left

  60. zyconoclast

    White Democrats battle demographics — and lose

    When the daughter of a Puerto Rican mother and Bronx-born Latino father ousts the son of an Irish immigrant in a district that is now nearly half Latino and 68 percent nonwhite, it is tempting to say that the torch was passed. Only, in this case, it is more accurate to say that the torch was forcibly wrested from Crowley’s hands against his will — and much earlier than he was planning to surrender it.

  61. zyconoclast

    Zimbabwe ‘doomed without whites’, says outgoing Zanu-PF MP

    An outgoing member of parliament for Zimbabwe’s ruling Zanu-PF party has reportedly claimed that the southern African country cannot prosper “without the involvement of whites” in its “affairs”

  62. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well said. Mother nature is a bitch.

    A bitch that has inspired great art, music, literature and the like. The human soul is not insensitive to the natural world, unless of course, evolution has been benevolent to one and one is already perfectly formed, and thus other life forms are mere bagatelles. Some are actually humbled by nature, others ever confident in their own supremacy.

  63. Delta A

    Thanks, Bushie. And just before dinner.

    Think I’ll sit it out tonight.

  64. zyconoclast

    How did Quebec’s nationalist movement become so white?

    The sovereignty movement now seems less focused on achieving a country than on how immigration is purportedly reshaping the province for the worse

  65. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    “Nationalism, on the whole, represents one of the key forces inimical to liberalism in the modern world. Even those nationalisms that profess liberty or peace as the key to national identity are rooted in ethical collectivism.”

    Sounds like iampeter has got a twitter account!

  66. cohenite

    A bitch that has inspired great art, music, literature and the like. The human soul is not insensitive to the natural world, unless of course, evolution has been benevolent to one and one is already perfectly formed, and thus other life forms are mere bagatelles. Some are actually humbled by nature, others ever confident in their own supremacy.

    And then there is pus. Nature is functional. It has no aesthetics. Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception. But lest you think I’m a complete bore I really like Plovers.

  67. John Constantine

    Wishcycling and recology are two good words from Bruce’s article,( added to rewilding from today’s ABC).

    On this basis, do windmills become Wishable electricity?.

    Wish hard enough and it will come true.

    Comrades.

  68. What does it mean “ethical collectivism” ?

    The moron meant ‘ethnic collectivism’.

  69. Top Ender

    Happens here every day. Be warned by the experiences of the Spanish:

    Spanish public servant skipped work for a decade
    Frank Chung, news.com.au
    July 12, 2018 11:58am
    A SPANISH public servant who skipped work for a decade without anyone noticing spent his free time running a male brothel and drawing erotic comics.

    Carles Recio, who was paid a 50,000 euro ($80,000) salary as an archives director in Valencia’s provincial government, would show up to the office every morning at 7:30am to clock in using the fingerprint scanner before heading home, only returning to the office at 3:30pm to clock out.

    He kept up the routine for 10 years before colleagues began to raise suspicions. After Spanish newspaper El Mundo broke the story 18 months ago, Mr Recio was finally sacked, despite his insistence that he had done nothing wrong.

    “I have only done what they have asked me to do,” he told the paper in January.

    Mr Recio maintained that he worked from home. “No one can show me a photograph in which I’m in a cafeteria, I’m a man of action,” he told the Spanish TV channel La Sexta.

    “I do documentation work out of the office, the work of a slave. Working like a slave means that I work so that others get the fruit of my labour.”

    State authorities abandoned an attempt to prosecute him after deciding his actions did not constitute a crime, but an administrative tribunal in Valencia this week banned Mr Recio from holding public posts for nine years for his “flagrant neglect of the essential duties inherent to the work post”.

    The tribunal found there was no evidence Mr Recio had performed any of the jobs he claimed, and that he had not even logged in to the corporate network since 2012 despite having his own computer.

    It also found no evidence for his claims that he had told superiors he didn’t have a desk following an office relocation, or that he had been assigned an external project to create an “inclusive art centre”.

    “There is not the slightest evidence that he was entrusted with the project of creating an inclusive art work centre or similar and the activities carried out by him are more like private dedications than authentic ones,” the tribunal said.

    The tribunal strongly criticised the local government for failing to properly supervise its employees, saying Mr Recio “became comfortable in the situation that benefited him” and his actions would not have been possible “without the acquiescence or the disinterest of the administration for which he worked”.

    He had been busy in other ways, however. In his free time, Mr Recio was making a name for himself as a erotic comic book artist and creator of the popular character Fallarela, a busty superhero who hurls flaming Valencia oranges at her enemies.

    It also emerged Mr Recio had been running a male brothel out of his home since 2005. At one point he threatened to reveal the identities of his clients, warning there may have been cameras inside and the “graphic information” could compromise many politicians.

    As part of his high-profile campaign to clear his name, Mr Recio even attempted to use a council venue for an art exhibition entitled, “Love for Valencia: the works of a man who never worked”, with four floors of works including paintings, sculptures and even a bronze bust of himself.

    The City of Valencia cancelled the show, which described Mr Recio as “the most slandered writer in modern-day Valencia”, just before it was due to open after the council discovered he had booked the venue using a fake name.

    Link

  70. Oh come on

    I should clarify. I think whales are magnificent creatures. I also have no problem with them being harvested at a sustainable level.

    I think a mighty steer is a magnificent creature. I also have no problem with it being turned into delicious steaks.

  71. egg_

    Do you know why there is no World Whale Wildlife Fund established by whales to care for other animals?

    Sarah Dugong’s?

  72. calli

    Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception.

    Why do we find it beautiful?

  73. Death Giraffe

    A bitch that has inspired great art, music, literature and the like. The human soul is not insensitive to the natural world, unless of course, evolution has been benevolent to one and one is already perfectly formed, and thus other life forms are mere bagatelles. Some are actually humbled by nature, others ever confident in their own supremacy.

    ..
    You have been programmed by a hundred stupid David Atttenborough docos to think this way.
    Thousands of slow motion scenes of “magnificent” critters, to the swelling sound of orchestral music.
    Propaganda.
    This is why you think whales are magnificent.
    The same reason you think the Earth is “fragile”.
    It’s a story. Written. Choreographed. Story boarded. Edited. The music carefully chosen to manipulate. Voice- overed with gravitas.
    Not your own thoughts on the matter, at all. Unless you are the most cliched, unoriginal moron.
    Sorry.

  74. dopey

    So what if he was drunk. I’m sure he paid for it himself.

  75. Sounds like iampeter has got a twitter account!

    I wonder what he thinks of Kavanaugh?

  76. Tom

    I’d be astonished if Kerry Stokes doesn’t sue the GayFL’s Sir
    Gillon McPolo-Pony, who has given his most valuable weekly timeslot (Friday night) this week to two of the league’s most hopeless basket cases, St Kilda and Carlton — the GayFL equivalent of Zimbabwe versus Bangladesh.

  77. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    We have dominion over nature, which grants us not just a wonderful bounty but great responsibility.

  78. cohenite

    Why do we find it beautiful?

    Which part?

  79. cohenite

    In other news the Snowy is running out of water and the imbeciles are going to close Australia’s biggest coal fired power station, Eraring.

  80. Tel

    So what if he was drunk. I’m sure he paid for it himself.

    Payment for services rendered I believe… bit of a question who was on the other side of that perfectly voluntary transaction.

  81. Roger

    Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception.

    Nature is imbued with symmetries and patterns which are independent of human observation but which elicit appreciation from us because they correspond to our aesthetics (except that of moderns, which is decadent). Why, it’s almost as though nature and we had the same creator!

  82. testpattern

    By far the most import development in SE Asia right now is the Bangsamoro Basic Law, due to be signed off later this month. There are two versions. Congress has watered down the version presented by the transitional committee, taking out much of the autonomy. There is still time to reinsert it, which is what’s being negotiated right now. The potential consequences are enormous. If the MILF agrees, it will help to definitively resolve historical grievances and bring economic development for the whole of Mindanao, not just the parts covered by the BBL. If Congress blows it once again, a new war will begin this time for total independence and will embrace both the black flag terrorist groups aligned with IS, and the official Moro armed forces. It’s a war that would drag in new actors from SE Asian neighbours, a war Duterte and others believe the AFP can’t win.

    ‘On July 9, the bicameral conference committee will finalize the version of the Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL) and after which on July 23 before or during the State of the Nation Address (SONA) President Rodrigo Roa Duterte will sign it into law…However, based on the Senate and House versions of the BBL, it is very difficult to say what decision MILF Central Committee is going to make: to accept or reject…’

    ‘The truth is that both options, acceptance or rejection, are laden with unfathomable complications or problems. Chances that either option will only worsen the situation in Mindanao. Indeed, it is not an easy decision on the part of the MILF. In this regard, consultation with the people is necessary…However, if what emerges from the conference is lower than the ARMM or just like it, it is easy for the MILF to decide. We cannot accept a diluted BBL. That is tantamount to capitulation.’

    http://retiredanalyst.blogspot.com/2018/07/milf-editorial-acceptance-or-rejection.html

    It’s going down to the wire and the Aust media is farting around with caves

  83. jupes

    But lest you think I’m a complete bore I really like Plovers.

    Surely you jest. Plovers are really hard to like.

  84. Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception.

    Some people argue the same regarding sound and colour, for instance, but I don’t believe it.

  85. Mater

    In other news the Snowy is running out of water and the imbeciles are going to close Australia’s biggest coal fired power station, Eraring.

    And likely detonate it, also.

    Asbestos riddled Morwell Power Station to be demolished despite heritage listing

    Heritage Victoria has granted permission for the derelict Morwell Power Station in the Latrobe Valley to be demolished, despite it being listed on the Victorian heritage register.

    The demolition permit applies to the coal-fired power station, but not the associated briquette factory, which is expected to be returned to use as an industrial site in the future.

    Heritage Victoria are traditionally dogmatic when dealing with listed buildings, but not this one. God forbid it’s left in a state which would allow it to be upgraded and re-commissioned.

  86. calli

    Which part?

    In alphabetical order? Or degrees of beauty? 🙂

  87. Death Giraffe

    Question:
    If a mechanism was constructed over an active volcano, and on one side there was a large assortment of thousands of whales, porpoises, dugongs, gorillas, giraffes, lions and various other majestic creatures. And on the other side of the machine was a single new- born human baby.
    And you had the controls.
    You can only save one side by incinerating the other.
    Which is it?

  88. thefrolickingmole

    Baby.
    I havent tasted all the others yet.

  89. Makka

    Bloody Hell, more banging on about the animals? Where is the riveting argument about plastic bags ffs.

  90. thefrolickingmole

    Fallarela, bit of a Barbarella knockoff?

    Pic safe for work.
    And yes the description of “flaming Valencia oranges” is correct.

  91. Geriatric Mayfly

    You have been programmed by a hundred stupid David Atttenborough docos to think this way.

    I wish you would refrain from informing me as to what drives my interest in the natural world, and ascribing to it pejorative terms like ‘hippy’ etc. If you really want to know, I grew up in the bush, cared for by grandparents, with few neighbours and no local kids for peer group interaction. I found multiple rewards by observing and interacting with the natural world around me, something which in later life I had the privilege on many occasions of witnessing it on the grandest scale of all in Africa. I now live back in the bush alone, for the simple reason that I am happy to finish life where I began. And yes, I spent 25 years on a suburban block in the inner east, and appreciate only too well how cynics can scoff at the world beyond the tram and the supermarket.

  92. Death Giraffe

    I wish you would refrain from informing me as to what drives my interest in the natural world, and ascribing to it pejorative terms like ‘hippy’ etc. If you really want to know, I grew up in the bush, cared for by grandparents, with few neighbours and no local kids for peer group interaction. I found multiple rewards by observing and interacting with the natural world around me, something which in later life I had the privilege on many occasions of witnessing it on the grandest scale of all in Africa. I now live back in the bush alone, for the simple reason that I am happy to finish life where I began. And yes, I spent 25 years on a suburban block in the inner east, and appreciate only too well how cynics can scoff at the world beyond the tram and the supermarket.

    ..
    I don’t care about your childhood.
    Go hug a porpoise.
    See if it will care for you in your dotage.
    I grew up under the Southern Alps.
    So beautiful it makes you want to cry.
    You can’t eat scenery.

  93. Death Giraffe

    Answer my question GM.
    Baby or assorted magnificent critters.
    Which is it?

  94. Tel

    What does it mean “ethical collectivism” ?

    The moron meant ‘ethnic collectivism’.

    Lol, yeah that would be the simple explanation, but actually he seems to be working along slightly different lines. Like this:

    https://www.libertarianism.org/encyclopedia/collectivism

    The literature provides both stronger and weaker versions of ethical collectivism. Plato’s Republic is a particularly dramatic version of the strong version. Plato’s concern centers on the well-being of society and on the functional role that each individual should play within it. Although some have found these ideas attractive, others have taken strong exception to the fact that, in Plato’s scheme, members of the society who appear to make no contribution are simply to be eliminated, and the welfare of slaves, although they serve a social function, is “beneath consideration.” Other theories of ethical collectivism have offered the view that societies, states, or particular nations may be accorded ethical priority over the individual, as was the case with various political regimes in the first half of the 20th century, whether fascist, national socialist, or communist.

    So what he is saying is that EVERY nation state must prioritize its own existence over and above the individual citizens if there should ever be a conflict between one and the other.

    The problem with that theory is that the state cannot exist without the citizens, so the state is forced to preserve the individual citizens (at least most of them) in all cases. That’s probably a fair argument for a minimalist state though, which is what most Libertarians want (as opposed to An-Cap type people who want no state at all). It’s a bit of a one sided argument if you ignore the problem that the individuals need the state for mutual defense (i.e. all those individuals who just formed little towns and villages ended up getting subjected to the violence of other groups).

    PS: don’t go to the website unless you enjoy stupid pop-ups all over the place. Not sure why it’s difficult to understand that annoying the crap out of people doesn’t encourage anyone to join your stupid spam list.

  95. Top Ender

    One thing I noticed through the occasional scuba dive when whales came close to us.

    The interfering bastards.

    When they breathed out through their blowhole, their breath stank of fish.

    That is all.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Answer my question GM.
    Baby or assorted magnificent critters.
    Which is it?

    This and the penultimate tirade suggests some innate dysfunction. I know the Snowy probably better than you do, and the bite of a wombat can leave deep psychological scars.

  97. Nick

    When they breathed out through their blowhole, their breath stank of fish.

    Penny Wong’s partner says the same.

  98. Death Giraffe

    Answer the question you waffling old coot.

  99. egg_

    Penny Wong’s partner says the same.

    Cat’s breath?

  100. H B Bear

    Tom it is a fair bet that Gillon McPolo-Pony won’t be invited to go skiing in Vail over Christmas this year that’s for sure. Listening to ALPBC footy last night the most over-rated coach ever and humourless bastard Mick Malthouse said it was a good idea for all teams to get exposure. Not sure how much exposure they’ll get with tens of thousands of TVs being turned off in the 1st quarter.

  101. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2762404, posted on July 13, 2018 at 5:36 pm
    Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception.

    Why do we find it beautiful?

    Good question. Of course, some bits are repulsive, some horrific and some beautiful.

    The little flower that poisons,
    The little fly that stings,
    He made the aids virus,
    And even nastier things.

    All things huge and hideous,
    All creatures short and squat,
    All things vile and horrible,
    The lord God made the lot.

  102. calli

    the bite of a wombat can leave deep psychological scars.

    True. They’re sneaky mongrels. Look cute and cuddly, then whammo!

  103. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #2762410, posted on July 13, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    I’d be astonished if Kerry Stokes doesn’t sue the GayFL’s Sir
    Gillon McPolo-Pony, who has given his most valuable weekly timeslot (Friday night) this week to two of the league’s most hopeless basket cases, St Kilda and Carlton — the GayFL equivalent of Zimbabwe versus Bangladesh.

    Heard it referred to during the week as the “Friday night blockbuster”.
    Nearly fell out of my Jason recliner.

  104. Death Giraffe

    I know the Snowy probably better than you do,

    ..
    That isn’t the Southern Alps.
    This is the Southern Alps:

  105. thefrolickingmole

    areff

    And an incredibly violent strain of thrush as well.

    Either that or an exploding vay-jay.

  106. calli

    Now that’s beautiful.

  107. Tel

    Starbucks Bans Plastic Straws, Winds Up Using More Plastic

    No way am I putting a reusable straw in my mouth that’s been laying around the back of a Starbucks and was washed out by a minimum wage student with one hand while chatting on their phone with the other hand.

    Cleaning out the inside of a straw is quite difficult and requires a lot of attention to detail. God knows what grows in the things nourished on milk and sugar leftover droplets.

  108. Nick

    Heard it referred to during the week as the “Friday night blockbuster”.
    Nearly fell out of my Jason recliner.

    I’m a Carlton supporter and even I’m stunned.

  109. Mitch M.

    Any glory in nature is imbued by human perception.

    So is sexual attraction. All sensation is imbued by human perception. On ADV China two western men commented that when they first lived in China it was surprising that the women they found attractive Chinese men found plain but after spending several years there the two western men perceptions of what is an attractive woman became more like the Chinese men. So it is rather subjective as is the concept of beauty.

    Numerous studies highlight benefits from spending time in natural settings. Possibly relates to sympathetic-parasympathetic balance because different people in different regions find their region to be the most wonderful. I think Australia has the more boring geography in the world. Incredibly tedious. Other people think the outback if beautiful and I think they are nuts or liars.

  110. Herodotus

    Channel 7 News goes in to bat for higher immigration.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    “ethical collectivism”

    Socialism using Libertarian tomes as toilet paper.

  112. thefrolickingmole

    Im developing a soft spot for the Poles.

    Waving Polish flags and banners of the far-right All-Polish Youth, the protestors marched through town, congregating before a stage on which a folk band was performing songs for the reunion event. “From trees, instead of leaves, communists will be hanging,” they chanted, drowning out the music.

    But this article is near pure evil, it seems to think the Poles arent grateful enough to the Communists who “Liberated” them at the end of WW2.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/13/poles-apart-the-bitter-conflict-over-a-nations-history-poland-monuments-communism-soviet-union

    Thousands of words and not one mention of the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact that helped kick of wobbly wobbly 2.

  113. cohenite

    Surely you jest. Plovers are really hard to like.

    You’re kidding, their knees bend the wrong way and their warning clack can shatter glass. I really feel sorry for them though; they nest on the ground and their chicks have the highest attrition rates from everything from foxes to cats to rats.

  114. Geriatric Mayfly

    Answer the question you waffling old coot.
    What’s the point with someone so desperately unhinged and quite vicious. I have written nothing that could be construed as offensive; your responses are thuggish Not your own thoughts on the matter, at all. Unless you are the most cliched, unoriginal moron. and the work of a hectoring and scaly eyed phobic.

  115. Delta A

    Back to whales: I agree with Oh come on at 5:34 pm.

    I have no problem with their harvesting, sale or consumption. Same with frogs, spider monkeys, meerkats, possums, huntsman spiders, kissing gouramis, kelpies and pussy cats if anyone has a taste or a sale for them.

    BTW: I, too, (sort of) like plovers. They are the best, most diligent parents in the animal kingdom.

  116. Herodotus

    Surely you jest. Plovers are really hard to like.
    Country Plovers are more bolshie than those in our suburb, who mind their own business and to date have not swooped us.
    I refer to the noisy neighbour as The Plover, however. That grating voice.

  117. Nick

    Delta, I got what you meant. I remember following by boat, a pod of killer whales, being transfixed by their beauty.

  118. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why do we find it beautiful?

    Sane people have called me beautiful before.
    True story.
    Crazy f$cking humans Jesus Christ.

    😁

  119. Baldrick

    BTW: I, too, (sort of) like plovers. They are the best, most diligent parents in the animal kingdom.

    Noisy bastards. Who needs a clay pigeon thrower when there are plovers.

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    Incidentally Killer Whales are not actually whales.
    They are actually humans that identify as Killer Whales.
    Watch Blackfish.

  121. Top Ender

    We are truly in the hands of the infidels.

    Apparently Virgin has removed beef from its menu.

  122. calli

    Plovers also nest on top of buildings. The chicks hatch and …

    There’s a pair that have claimed the 18th. At certain times of year, golfers are observed doing a strange ritual involving whirring the club (usually sand wedge) around their heads as they attempt to get onto the green. The plovers are relentless swoopers.

  123. Fisky

    Wow, the corporate bugmen are furi0us at immigration reduction!

    The Australian Industry Group, one of the nation’s leading business groups, said the cut was “disappointing”.

    The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry blasted the cuts, arguing employers were paying the political price for the government’s failure to keep up with infrastructure demands in growing cities.
    “This is a real crisis,” the chamber’s CEO James Pearson told SBS News.

    We should do this every year, reduce immigration by tens of thousands just to upset these corporate leeches!

  124. Death Giraffe

    What’s the point with someone so desperately unhinged and quite vicious.

    ..
    and:

    I have written nothing that could be construed as offensive;

    ..
    No.
    You’re the height of polite reason.
    I knew I should have added some smiley faces.

  125. Baldrick

    Settle down Stimpy, next you’ll be giving us the run down on Grey Nurse sharks.

  126. Nick

    Apparently Virgin has removed beef from its menu.

    Seriously?

  127. Geriatric Mayfly

    I refer to the noisy neighbour as The Plover, however. That grating voice.

    There are about 10 species in Africa. My favourite the blacksmith plover. No grating noise, just the plink, plink of a light hammer on an anvil.

  128. Fisky

    Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese said the drop was a “good result”.
    “Of course it’s a good result, if there is more integrity in the system,” he told Today.

    Albo is positioning himself as the anti-Big Australia candidate. We all know he is lying of course.

  129. Death Giraffe

    Come on GM.
    Don’t be like that.
    Tell me what you think of the hypothetical.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    Exactly what it is – hypothetical. You are either as described above, or simply being provocative to the point of being quite silly or witless. That’s my hypothesis.

  131. Delta A

    I’m a bit upset that no-one has supported my admiration of kissing gouramis.

  132. Baldrick

    Looks like the Trump-baby Blimp is going to be a complete failure, judging by its size.

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    The plovers are relentless swoopers.

    And they have spurs on their wings, but I have never heard of anyone being lacerated.

  134. Death Giraffe

    You have your back up at comments that if you read carefully were mostly generalities.
    You respond with personal abuse while acusing me of same.
    You won’t answer a hypothetical because it is uncomfortable.
    Guess that is the end of that.

  135. Nick

    Balders, that’s ‘it’ ? Bwahahahahahahahahahha

  136. Oh come on

    Tony Abbott recently addressed the Heritage Foundation, titled Taking Trump Seriously.

  137. Mitch M.

    Do Psychedelics Have the Power to Change Minds?

    It is very surprising because there are ever increasing numbers of studies pointing to the therapeutic potential of psychedelics. At present there is no clear explanation for this but as many have surmised it may constitute a “rebooting” of the brain, allowing new neural patterns of activity to remain active long after the dosing(many months after!). Another important point is it may relate to one specific receptor: a common antidepressant target. Psychedelics are fun but not for everyone. I am considering trying some again.

  138. Death Giraffe

    you
    juː/Submit
    pronoun
    1.
    used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.
    “are you listening?”
    2.

    used to refer to any person in general.
    “after a while, you get used to it”

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m a bit upset that no-one has supported my admiration of kissing gouramis.

    I need you to tell me what they are first.
    Unlike Grigs, I am proud of my ignorance.
    It’s mine, and I worked very hard for it.

  140. Top Ender

    Report on Virgin removing beef – from Virgin Atlantic.

    There are reports on Facechook over the last hour or so it’s happening in the other branches.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Psychedelics are fun but not for everyone. I am considering trying some again.

    It must be filmed for science.
    Much like Arkys car videos.

  142. Baldrick

    Balders, that’s ‘it’ ? Bwahahahahahahahahahha

    That’s the size of it Nick. Now imagine 100 feet in the air. It’ll be the size of this full stop. ⬅

  143. Roger

    Do Psychedelics Have the Power to Change Minds?

    Ask Syd Barrett.

  144. Tom

    Albo is positioning himself as the anti-Big Australia candidate. We all know he is lying of course.

    This is going to be quite tricky for the old-fashioned mummy’s boy communist who wants to use immigration to destroy 100 years of wealth creation and Australian capitalism.

  145. Gab

    Why is Virgin removing beef? I mean to say, what are they virtue-signalling this time?

  146. Nick

    But but on the BBC just now, they said it was a ‘giant’. Bwahahahahahaha.

  147. Peter

    Hmmnn … SBS @ 8:25pm “How Reagan And Thatcher Saved The World”
    How Maggie And Ronnie Saved The World – The forgotten story of the hole in the ozone layer – and how the world came together to fix it. The scientists and politicians who persuaded Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher to take action reveal how the planetary problem was solved.

    Prediction: How much better and more scientific were “conservative” leaders in days gone by. Why, today’s crop (Trump and Abbott in particular) no longer care for science. Look what they’re doing to the climate!

    Any takers?

  148. Roger

    Wow, the corporate bugmen are furi0us at immigration reduction!

    It means they might have to innovate to make a profit.

  149. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Doctor is in. She appears in the dress of a certain religion, all in light pastels, no letter box across the face, thank God. Hers is a second opinion which confirms the first. Gout! For gawd’s sake I am not even within cooeee of the minor aristocracy. The left index finger knuckle is afflicted, so I try a little English test. I indicate that I am losing some dexterity in the left hand. Can the left hand ever be dexterous? I enquire. Alas! She is onto me faster than knuckular spasm. I guess the big toe is next, in keeping with all the japes, jests and cartoons which that nether malady has inspired.

  150. Roger

    The lord God made the lot.

    Original sin, BeauGan.

    And trolling ill becomes you; we know you’re better than that.

  151. Frank

    Heard it referred to during the week as the “Friday night blockbuster”.
    Nearly fell out of my Jason recliner.

    Jason recliner or Lazyboy, which is better? I opted for the Stressless variety, the better to gaze lovingly at the Thermomix in the kitchen from.

  152. cohenite

    Looks like the Trump-baby Blimp is going to be a complete failure, judging by its size.

    A couple of .22 s would do the trick.

  153. cohenite

    Psychedelics are fun but not for everyone. I am considering trying some again.

    Post here before and after. Something standardised like: the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

  154. Roger

    Why is Virgin removing beef? I mean to say, what are they virtue-signalling this time?

    I was aghast to see plant derived mince at my local Woolworths today.

  155. Pete of Perth

    Stayed in Macau the last two mights. Power must be cheap as most shop’s aircon continuously blasts into the streets to beat back the 34c heat. Biggly yuge casinos where the riff raff can lay bets up to 400K AUD. Too poor to venture into the high stakes rooms.

  156. Mitch M.

    Original sin, BeauGan.
    And trolling ill becomes you; we know you’re better than that.

    Original sin, a convenient non-falsifiable argument so that God is never held accountable for anything bad in the world. It can’t be taken seriously because it attempts to explain too much.

  157. Wow, the corporate bugmen are furi0us at immigration reduction!

    Indeed. Further, I just saw the ABC characterize boatloads of Africans illegally attempting to settle in this or that European country as ‘migration’; as if it were a normal part of any orderly immigration process. They are literally attempting to normalize people settling in Western countries outside of any normal processing that occurs before entry.

  158. areff

    Thousands of words and not one mention of the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact that helped kick of wobbly wobbly 2.

    Or of the Russians waiting outside Warsaw until the Germans had killed the Polish rebels, saving them the trouble.

  159. Roger

    It can’t be taken seriously because it attempts to explain too much.

    And yet the memory of a golden age haunts humanity.

  160. Mitch M.

    Post here before and after. Something standardised like: the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

    More likely I’d start spitting out small essays. That happens sometimes, most of it rubbish. In my youth during a trip sweat was dripping onto the keyboard as I typed mostly nonsense. During that summer afternoon trip I decided to go to the shop which required a big uphill walk. When I walked in at the counter was a former acquaintance who burst out laughing as soon as he saw me. He knew what I was doing … .

  161. Tel

    Original sin, BeauGan.

    You think eating apples causes mosquitoes to pop into existence?

    Ohhh wait a moment, that snake was around BEFORE the apple, even I know that. Who made the snake huh, huh, huh?

  162. Pete of Perth

    .. missed a couple of spelling mistakes…

  163. Geriatric Mayfly

    They are literally attempting to normalize people settling in Western countries outside of any normal processing that occurs before entry.

    Are you surprised? Just another weapon of assault on our wicked western ways, steeped as they are in white exceptionalism. Unfortunately, as weapons go, it’s probably the best the Left have conspired to assemble so far.

  164. Roger

    They are literally attempting to normalize people settling in Western countries outside of any normal processing that occurs before entry.

    How would ABC types react if a crowd of the homeless encamped on their lawn and demanded entry to their homes with all the attached benefits?

    After initial attempts at reasoning proved fruitless I think they’d call the police.

  165. Pete of Perth

    #thinkofthechairs

  166. cohenite

    Alarmism is the Eden myth repackaged; fossils are now the snake and the apple is kim kardashian’s arse.

  167. Geriatric Mayfly

    Oh My God

    The affected fungus on that garden gnome gets me every time.

  168. Roger

    You think eating apples causes mosquitoes to pop into existence?

    It wasn’t an apple, you nincompoop 😉

    At least read the text before commenting upon it.

  169. Delta A

    Stayed in Macau the last two nights.

    Have you visited a jai alai stadium? A must do. Place a bet and learn the rules as you go.

    Great fun.

  170. Death Giraffe

    Thin skinned old fool.

  171. Gab

    Still have no idea why Virgin is banning beef.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Wow, the corporate bugmen are furi0us at immigration reduction!

    Corporatism is the greatest threat to australia. Worse than socialism and muzzies combined.

  173. C.L.

    Giraffe.
    Dude.
    You’ve been warring against whales for several hours.

  174. Roger

    “Original sin, a convenient non-falsifiable argument so that God is never held accountable for anything bad in the world.”

    Mitch.

    “Original sin is the only doctrine that’s been empirically validated by human history.”

    GK Chesterton.

    I’ll take Chesterton, thank you.

  175. Infidel Tiger

    They are literally attempting to normalize people settling in Western countries outside of any normal processing that occurs before entry.

    When you live in a gated community of whites and your only contact with a brown person is your maid, this probably seems quite ok.

  176. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thin skinned old fool.

    Is that me again? What’s the next level down from cowering?

  177. C.L.

    Sciatica, hey.
    Yeah, no.

  178. egg_

    the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.

    The snow cap mushroom grows mainly on the mountain?

  179. Baldrick

    Still have no idea why Virgin is banning beef.

    Fake news Gab.

    Virgin Australi ✔ @VirginAustralia
    We’re proud to use local Australian beef in meals on board our flights and we don’t have any plans to change this. We’re committed to offering local produce on board wherever possible. Thank you.
    6:19 PM · Jul 13, 2018

  180. Death Giraffe

    Corporatism is the greatest threat to australia.

    ..
    The greatest threat to Australia is the separation of most people in it from the hard work required to maintain a modern civilisation.
    Allowing the illusion that this, our current comfortable life, is the normal situation.

  181. Farmer Gez

    Not sure if this has been covered but the ironing is delicious.
    Lib candidate for Vic elections is taken to task by the Victorian multicultural Commmisioner, Helen Kapalos. He posted an advert depicting hooded gang members and stating only the Libs can stop gangs.
    Kapalos was spinning hard on the ABC. The ad is obviously racist and refers to African people, who are smart, wonderful and we are to blame for their social problems….blah blah blah.
    An hour later, the ABC reports that a man was bashed, robbed and bashed again (because he wouldn’t say where he parked his car) by a group of twelve described as being of African appearance. This took place in broad daylight on the corner of Spancer and Flinders Streets.
    Helen, you’re a champ!

  182. How much better and more scientific were “conservative” leaders in days gone by

    Yeah, right.
    For the record, there is no such thing as the “ozone layer” and it doesn’t have a hole in it. Never did.
    What Maggie and Reagan gave us at the time was significantly more expensive refrigeration.

    .
    Politicians haven’t changed, including “conservative” ones.

  183. Entropy

    Corporatism is the greatest threat to australia. Worse than socialism and muzzies combined.

    How can you tell the difference between corporatism and socialism? In a practical, outcomes sense?

  184. Entropy

    An hour later, the ABC reports that a man was bashed, robbed and bashed again (because he wouldn’t say where he parked his car) by a group of twelve described as being of African appearance. This took place in broad daylight on the corner of Spancer and Flinders Streets.
    Helen, you’re a champ!

    We are to blame of course.

  185. Death Giraffe

    Is that me again? What’s the next level down from cowering?

    ..
    Yes. You.
    The one who complains about personal abuse while unloading the worst bile on this thread.
    You geriatric fruitcake.

  186. Infidel Tiger

    Donald if you are reading this tonight, you must tweet about Juncker.

    Tweet that you felt insulted but also offer him your bosom in the spirit of Fred.

    Also you must tweet about a Bavarian secession.

    Troll these fuckers.

    Godspeed.

  187. Some History

    Oh My God

    Warning, please. 🙂

    A photo of 4 bags.

  188. Nick

    Spencer and Flinders eh? I can’t wait till such crimes occur on Smith St. Watch the excuses fly.

  189. Farmer Gez

    Spancer St?
    Spencer St.
    Sorry.

  190. Gab

    Oh right, Thanks, Baldy. So Virgin will get rid of serving beef in about 2 months after bowing to pressure from the animal hacktivits. Today’s statement seems meaningless.

    —————————————

    Sciatica, hey.
    Yeah, no.

    I still reckon there’s something wrong with him. Maybe he has an undiagnosed condition like a tumor on the brain or something. Still doesn’t look like he’s drunk, but then I’ve never seen him drunk before to compare.

  191. Infidel Tiger

    How can you tell the difference between corporatism and socialism? In a practical, outcomes sense?

    Socialist are Usually poorly organised with no structure and operate solely at a grassroots or academic level. In australia they are harmless ineffectual idiots.

    Corporatists not only have the ear of our government they control the pursestrings of all parties and the media.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2762401, posted on July 13, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    Happens here every day. Be warned by the experiences of the Spanish:

    Spanish public servant skipped work for a decade
    Frank Chung, news.com.au
    July 12, 2018 11:58am
    A SPANISH public servant who skipped work for a decade without anyone noticing spent his free time running a male brothel and drawing erotic comics.

    And I’ll bet that every year at budget time his bosses wrung their hands and declared “there is no fat left to cut”.

  193. calli

    Oh My God

    Warning, please. 🙂

    A photo of 4 bags.

    They were objecting to the threat of “fat trimming”.

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MEDIA
    Lauren Southern in Australia: ‘I feel zero shame whatsoever for being white’

    The Australian
    1:29PM July 13, 2018

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @RemyVarga

    Controversial activist Lauren Southern says multiculturalism will inevitably fail unless 50 per cent of the population believes in western culture alone.

    The Canadian arrived today ahead of her speaking tour in Brisbane wearing an “It’s okay to be white” shirt.

    Ms Southern, who is an outspoken critic of illegal immigration, Islam and elements of the LGBTI community, is in town for her speaking tour on “free speech” with fellow Canadian commentator Stefan Molyneux.

    She will also screen her documentary, Farmlands, which explores South Africa and the “looming options between genocide and civil war”.

    From the Oz.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    Southern is a grifter.

    Would not surprise me to find she is backed by Soros.

    Same as Tomi Lahren. .

  196. C.L.

    Controversial activist Lauren Southern says multiculturalism will inevitably fail unless 50 per cent of the population believes in western culture alone.

    It’s never been easier to be “controversial.”

  197. mh

    More Stormy:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/cops-claim-stormy-daniels-arrest-stemmed-from-human-trafficking-probe.html?recirc=taboolainternal

    At 11:30 p.m., Daniels took the main stage and began performing, police wrote.

    “During her performance after removing her top exposing her breasts she began forcing the faces of patrons into her chest and using her bare breasts to smack the patrons,” police wrote. “The officers also observed Ms. Clifford fondling the breasts of female patrons.”

    The reports said that three of the police in the club then approached the stage, and “Ms. Clifford made her way over to Det. Keckley and began performing in front of her.” Keckley is a woman.

    “Ms. Clifford leaned over, grabbed Det. Keckley’s head and began smacking her face with her bare breasts and holding her face between her breasts against her chest,” police said.

    Daniels then did the same thing to Detective Lancaster, a man, according to the report, and later fondled “Ofc. Praither’s buttock and breasts,” the report said.

    “She then forced Ofc. Praither’s head into her chest between her breasts and began smacking her faces with her breasts,” police wrote.

    At the time this was all going on, Detective Steve Rosser was watching it happen from the bar area, according to the report.

  198. Geriatric Mayfly

    The one who complains about personal abuse while unloading the worst bile on this thread.

    Now you’re being stalked by the Hyperbowls. More spooky than the Hobyahs.

  199. Death Giraffe

    GM.
    One of us is going to have to forgo the last word.
    I suggest you be the better man, as you are boring as all hell.

  200. Psychedelics are fun but not for everyone. I am considering trying some again.

    Tell me about the machine elves.

  201. Baldrick

    Gab,
    Even the Virgin Atlantic story about removing beef looks like fake news. It’s only been reported on 2 very dubious Greenfilth websites, oh and Facebook.

  202. Mitch M.

    Tell me about the machine elves.

    I would but out of sheer desperation Elon Musk demands I tell him about them first because all he has left is fairy tales for possible redemption.

  203. Gab

    Thanbks, Baldy. But you knopw how this sort of stuff plays out. We’ll wait and see.

  204. John Constantine

    “The biggest hurdle will be finding humans willing to live alongside and support efforts to keep big carnivores around, said Thomas Newsome, an ecologist studying human-predator interactions at the University of Sydney who was not involved in this study. That would mean supporting efforts to stop the activities that killed many large carnivores in the first place. And even for gray wolves, that hasn’t been easy: Some people don’t want them, and others still hunt wolves outside park boundaries in Yellowstone and in Alaska.

    Perhaps the solution is rethinking what it means to be humans in a natural world, said Layla AbdelRahim, an anthropologist who has studied human understanding of wilderness. We must recognize our role as partners with the environment, rather than dominators, to maintain functioning ecosystems, she said.

    Rewilding will be a significant trend in preserving ecosystems where all species matter, said Dr. Ripple. “Humans are just figuring out what the interconnectedness in nature is all about.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/16/science/rewilding-carnivores-wolves.html

    Their Australian left of course are all out for rewilding, and using decolonialisation, the deindustrialisation of agriculture and the clearances of racists and settlers from rural Australia to get there.

    Big Australia it seems now means the imported consumption and serving machines being stored in high rise battery farms, with 9 square meter personal containment pods and communal showers/dunnies/ration troughs.

    Our Kleptonobility living in high rise gated community, apartment-price apartheid segregated,bollard and armed guard protected ‘Towers of Glory”.

    The wastelands outside the Megacity are clearanced of proles then rewilded with ferals and man eating carnivores.

  205. Rewilding is not for the faint-hearted:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354445/Super-pack-400-wolves-kill-30-horses-just-days-remote-Russian-village.html

    ‘Super pack’ of 400 wolves terrorise remote Russian town after killing 30 horses in just four days

  206. John Constantine

    “Since the Northern Territory banned crocodile hunting in the 1970s, saltwater crocodiles numbers in the Top End have grown from an estimated 3,000 to about 100,000.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-06-04/katherine-river-crocodiles-prevent-locals-from-swimming/9764080

    Rewilding the rivers of the Northern Territory with crocs didn’t take long.

    Rewilding Victoria with dingos next?.

  207. It’s never been easier to be “controversial.”

    Indeed. The solemn beliefs of this age were considered trash and absurd only two generations ago.

  208. Tel

    How can you tell the difference between corporatism and socialism? In a practical, outcomes sense?

    Corporatism is a three way power sharing arrangement between big business, big unions and big government, designed to smack the little guy into line (while all of the above also promise to help the little guy). Corporatism tends to be ugly, brutal, authoritarian, but they say the trains run on time. It’s what we are trying to build in Australia if only we could find some people competent enough to put on a pair of jack boots and not trip over their own shoelaces.

    Socialism is a vague umbrella term that reflects some glowing central power sitting on a hill, that controls people, supposedly for their own good, but no one knows how it works (and when it doesn’t work, that wasn’t real socialism). Socialism is what cunning people talk about in distant terms to lul other people off to sleep for the purpose of robbing them and blaming dose wascally capitalists.

  209. John Constantine

    “The number of great white sharks off Australia’s south-western coast could be greater than 10,000, suggesting there are more of the predators in local waters than previously thought.

    Further analysis of a major CSIRO study released last week reveals great white shark numbers are more than seven times higher than the breeding populations highlighted”

    https://thewest.com.au/news/sharks/sharks-may-top-10000-ng-b88743181z

    Rewilding the beaches of Australia with Great White Sharks is another milestone.

  210. Infidel Tiger

    Socialist say stupid stuff like “we need to confiscate all wealth”

    Corporatists say stuff like “we all need to pay more for electricity, ban plastic bags, increase immigration, make everyone live in a dog box, increase taxes on poor people…”

    Which one do you think is succeeding?

  211. None

    Trump looked repulsed by that drunken bum.

    Trump doesn’t drink.

  212. Baldrick

    So we’re ruled by Socialist Corporatists.

  213. DrBeauGan

    Capitalism is when you get to trade whatever you want with anyone who’s willing, and nobody stops you. Socialism is when a bureaucrat takes a cut of those trades he likes and forbids those he doesn’t. Corporatism is when the bureaucrat has to do what a consortium of the state, big business and the trade unions tell him to.

  214. cohenite

    Southern is a grifter.

    Would not surprise me to find she is backed by Soros.

    Same as Tomi Lahren. .

    Where do I sign up?

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Using Two Cows to Explain the Theory of Government

    January 15, 2012 by Dan Mitchell

    I’ve received several versions of this over the years. I’m not sure whether I like this more than the modern fable of the ant and the grasshopper, but it’s definitely good.

    ============================================

    Cows and Government

    Socialism

    Is this the hope or the change?

    You have two cows. The government takes one and give one to your neighbor.

    Communism

    You have two cows. The government takes them both and promises you milk but you starve.

    Fascism

    You have two cows. The government takes them and sells you the milk.

    Bureaucracy

    You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, and then pours it down the drain.

    Capitalism

    You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

    Bain Capitalism

    You have two cows. You sell one, force the other to produce the milk of four cows and then act surprised when it drops dead.

    Redistributionism

    You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point that you must sell them both in order to support someone else who already got a free cow from the government.

  216. H B Bear

    Nice thick plastic bag from my local Chinese takeaway. I wonder if they have got around the law by simply getting thicker bags? If so, it will be the greatest example of the law of unintended consequences since the Goosesteen Mining Tax.

  217. Nice thick plastic bag from my local Chinese takeaway. I wonder if they have got around the law by simply getting thicker bags? If so, it will be the greatest example of the law of unintended consequences since the Goosesteen Mining Tax.

    That’s what I’ve done.

  218. Baldrick

    Gab
    #2762552, posted on July 13, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    Thanbks, Baldy. But you knopw how this sort of stuff plays out. We’ll wait and see.

    Still looks like fake news …

    Ba1drick 🇦🇺 (Dragon Energy) @Ba1drick
    @VirginAtlantic
    Simple question.
    Are you now or in the near future removing beef from your flight menus?
    ___
    Virgin Atlantic ✔ @VirginAtlantic
    Replying to @Ba1drick
    (Ba1drick 🇦🇺 Not that we’re aware of here. no. ^R
    8:20 PM · Jul 13, 2018

  219. Infidel Tiger

    If you think the Socialist Alliance are dangerous you are very confused.

    If you don’t think the Business Council are evil and a clear and present danger to Australia you are a complete drongo.

  220. Death Giraffe

    communism
    You have two cows. The government takes them both and promises you milk but you starve.

    ..
    Incorrect.
    In communism the government sends a mob to take your cows.
    They kill you. The cows die.
    Then the mob starves to death.

  221. Baldrick

    The latest picture of the Trump-baby Blimp in full flight.

  222. zyconoclast

    Top Ender
    #2762484, posted on July 13, 2018 at 7:07 pm
    Report on Virgin removing beef – from Virgin Atlantic.

    There are reports on Facechook over the last hour or so it’s happening in the other branches.

    From the link:
    While Virgin acknowledges that aircraft is the largest source of carbon emissions for airlines, it remains committed to reducing its carbon footprint in any way that it can. Animal agriculture is known to be one of the largest contributors to global greenhouse gas emissions and recent data published by Environmental Research Letters indicates that beef is one of the biggest culprits. This is due to a combination of clear-cutting forests in order to make room for cattle as well as land to cultivate feed such as soy and corn that is largely used for animals raised for meat and dairy.

    My take: completely unnecessary flying is ok. Necessary food is not ok.

  223. Snoopy

    Pestattern:

    Nope. I’ve been working away for 12 weeks, back for 2 then away again til November.

    It’s a tough gig being Australia’s foremost expert on East Timorese orphanages.

  224. Infidel Tiger

    Corporatism: the media, government and business convince you that cows are redundant and poisonous and must instead be replaced by alpacas at 100 times the cost. You gladly agree to pay up and feel virtuous for doing so.

  225. max

    I’d like to see Juncker go up against Sir Les Paterson.

  226. Gab

    Heard today that some state in Australia – pick a state, they’re all the same – has banned ticket scalping. I’ve never understood this hysteria over scalping tickets. If the price is too high, no one pays for it. So what’s the issue?

  227. Top Ender

    Ho-hum.

    Settling down to watch Dunkirk.

    Prepare for disappointment.

  228. Frank

    Trump looked repulsed by that drunken bum.

    Trump doesn’t drink.

    Trump’s brother died from alcoholism.

  229. H B Bear

    The ALPBC has sent David Parkin to commentate on this football joke. Parking is a great of the game and should be shown greater respect than this.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Settling down to watch Dunkirk.

    Prepare for disappointment.

    I’d be interested in your review.

  231. Mitch M.

    Settling down to watch Dunkirk.
    Prepare for disappointment.

    Boring crap movie.

  232. JC

    JPMorgan just hit the ball out the park
    Earnings of $8.3 billion for the quarter. FMD

  233. Infidel Tiger

    JPMorgan just hit the ball out the park
    Earnings of $8.3 billion for the quarter. FMD

    Yay corporatist filth.

  234. Gab

    Baldrick did you delete your tweet to the ABC about the tiny Trump balloon? Or has Twitter deleted it?

  235. mh

    The latest picture of the Trump-baby Blimp in full flight.

    WOW! The MSM has been focussed on THAT for the last week?

  236. Baldrick

    Just updated it Gab. Should be backup now.

  237. Steve trickler

    Some recent footage from the Mach Loop. Standing on the edge of those cliffs, watching that….



  238. None

    Corporatism is Keating, socialism is Carr.

  239. Confused Old Misfit

    max
    #2762575, posted on July 13, 2018 at 8:39 pm
    I’d like to see Juncker go up against Sir Les Paterson.

    Junker would be under the kitchen table talking to the cat!

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