A lucky country run by second rate people? The ACCC and rooftop solar

Donald Horne wrote it many years ago.

Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people’s ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise.

A bit of a journalistic exaggeration actually but never more true than now under the influence of warming hysteria and the war on CO2. The ACCC has discovered, late in the day, that the rooftop solar subsidy scheme transfers wealth from poor to rich. Can you bear it?

UPDATE, HEADS UP ON TONY FROM OZ
An important comment in the thread under Jo Nova’s post, a report on 56 days monitoring the contribution of different sources of power, the main point being the absurdly small amount of power from Wind and Other.

I have been doing this new Series for eight weeks now, so 56 days.

There have been 14 of those days (and that’s one quarter of that time) when ALL the wind power, ALL the solar power from commercial plants and ALL the rooftop solar power have delivered LESS THAN 2% of the power required at the evening Peak, and five of those days have been lower than 1%, with the lowest at 0.3%

That evening peak is the highest power consumption we have, and it happens every day at 5.30/6PM, and over those eight weeks averages for those peaks have been between 28500MW and 32000MW.

Now, the point here is that even though the Country is consuming the most electricity it actually can consume, on those 14 days, ALL OF IT was actually being delivered from coal fired power, natural gas fired power, and hydro power.

From the low point of 0.3% (100MW of that Peak) to the high point of 2%, (600MW) is between one and three Units at a gas plant just waiting for the call already to ‘fire up’.

The fact that those three main sources have already proved they can handle it is an indictment on the total and utter uselessness of wind power, solar power, and rooftop solar power.

There could be none of it, and we would still get by.

Tony.

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26 Responses to A lucky country run by second rate people? The ACCC and rooftop solar

  1. Habib

    Another item for the “No Shit, Sherlock” folder.how much do these Ming’s cost us?

  2. Habib

    Sodding autocorrect, “mongs”.

  3. RobK

    It’s always easy to dream up give away schemes. Not so easy to undo them.

  4. 132andBush

    The argument I have been making very successfully with anyone I debate on the subject.
    Very easy in my area to use wealthier farmers who could come up with $20k+ for a huge subsidized array plonked in the “cow paddock” as examples. Early feed-in tariffs ensured zero power bills for them and ever increasing ones for us.
    Cant knock them of course, probably would’ve done the same.

  5. Dr Fred Lenin

    Just heard on QI , Galbraith the economist said ,”capitalism is man exploiting man ,Communism is the opposite “. So the solar subsidy is capitalism

  6. Leo G

    The fact that those three main sources have already proved they can handle it is an indictment on the total and utter uselessness of …

    … a lucky country run mainly by second rate people

    Connecting the dots is no journalistic exaggeration.

  7. BorisG

    The rooftop solar subsidy scheme transfers wealth from poor to rich

    Given how much redistribution occurs in the opposite direction, maybe this is not such a bad thing?

  8. RobK

    Boris,
     maybe this is not such a bad thing?
    Except these schemes sabotage dispatchable baseload energy, drain government coffers with outrageous FIT, destabilise the the instrumentation and control of the established grid and require extra infrastructure spending with increased uptake. So, no it is a really stupid scheme sold by the lure of green misinformation about saving the planet and other political overtones.

  9. Sooner or later the peasants will begin to revolt. The climate change scam can only go on for so long before everyone realises that the Emperor has no clothes.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    ALL OF IT was actually being delivered from coal fired power, natural gas fired power, and hydro power.

    And look is what is happening with the hydro dams:

    No rain and no Hazelwood are no good for hydro scheme (paywalled so no link)

    Snowy Hydro’s biggest storage dam has fallen to less than 25 per cent capacity due to poor rains and high electricity generation.

    That is in the Australian today, from Graham Lloyd. So they are running down the dams and generating like crazy because someone has to make up for Hazelwood.

    We saw what this short-termism did in Tassie: they ran down their dams to reap stupid renewable credits and then Basslink fried itself. Suddenly Tassie had to scramble and ship in dozens of diesel gensets at great cost.

    How many gensets will it take to run Australia?

  11. JohnL

    How many gensets will it take to run Australia?

    Luckily in SA, we need not worry, we have the battery.

  12. Rafe Champion

    Go Boris you good thing.
    Keep reminding us of the lunacy of the left!

  13. John Constantine

    Our quisling elites are actually first class at the things that matter to them.

    Being first snout into the trough, digging in and squealing so loud when any attempt is made to drag them away from the slops that the dragger gives up and lets their tail go.

  14. John Constantine

    So second rate at corruption that even the chicoms cannot believe how far australias kleptonobles will sell out the country in return for such mean spirited bribery.

  15. John Constantine

    In the bad old days, deindustrialising the Ruhr valley by open attack from the air was a near suicide run for the young men of Bomber Command.

    Australia is deindustrialising for a brown paper bag full of chicom fivers and the thrill of being cutting edge in early adopting fashionable decolonialisiation theory.

  16. Rohan

    How many gensets will it take to run Australia?

    I think we’ll find out soon.

  17. John Constantine

    Wait for the incoming ‘Super El Nino’ call from the media cycle when the crap indian ocean dipole spring rainfall fail gets fed into predictions.

    South east Australian hydro dam levels have more to worry about than ruinable energy bailouts.

  18. duncanm

    132andBush
    #2761749, posted on July 12, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    The argument I have been making very successfully with anyone I debate on the subject.
    Very easy in my area to use wealthier farmers who could come up with $20k+ for a huge subsidized array plonked in the “cow paddock” as examples. Early feed-in tariffs ensured zero power bills for them and ever increasing ones for us.
    Cant knock them of course, probably would’ve done the same.

    the real damage of course is that the $20k could have been invested in something useful..

  19. John Constantine

    How does it feel to be forced to realise that the House of Saud is gutsier and more determined to dig in and fight for their country than either their turnbullites election winning machine or their shorten looting cartel is?.

    More corrupt and more contemptuous of the peasants than Saudi princes.

    The craven surrender-wombats of Australia’s Canberra political burrows are so brain damaged from breathing each others farts in the depths of their isolated and bollarded bunkerholes, that they now believe that only their own fortunes and theories are the sole things that matter to the country.

    Comrade Craven Creditmunching Capitulationwombat.

    Maaaaaates.

  20. Roger

    A bit of a journalistic exaggeration actually…

    Not in regard to our present political class, it isn’t.

  21. Dr Fred Lenin

    Wish Donald Horne(a pretentious prick if ever I met one,so superior he should have gone to Eton then Cambridge might have ended up in Moscow), still I digress , he should be here now to see our present innovative ,globalist ,socialist “leaders”, I wonder if “ fifth rate leaders” would be enough for his finding ? he would be right there . He was in his heyday when Australia was a backward ,provincial settler invader country , that was starting to change into the vibrant progressive cultimultural shitheap the politicians have made it , he would really have something to whinge about now.

  22. EJ.

    Can we Frame the comment from OZ and place it in a Full page paid ad in every media outlet..let ALL people get the opportunity to read and fully understand what’s truly happening here…the sabotage of our essential services Australia wide ! Perhaps a GO fund me page for posting the truth could help get the clear evidence out there. Millions still pay to buy a newspaper and many more don’t have access to the Internet and don’t get the real science & the truth of this Climate Change GW scam. We are all being taken as mugs in this scam for long enough now from both sides of politics.. there will be a peoples revolt as the suffering continues to touch every Australian.

  23. Habib

    Given how much redistribution occurs in the opposite direction, maybe this is not such a bad thing?
    Not when it’s going to virtue-signalling leftists who are wealthy through parasitism.

  24. Cynic of Ayr

    Here’s a thought, actually a question that should be asked of Turnbull et al.
    Figures I got from just now on the Dashboard.
    Demand 21970
    Generation 21051
    Other 919
    I don’t know what efficiency Other was running at this time. Say 10%. Doesn’t matter much.
    To get 21050 from Other at 10% efficiency, means the build would have to for 10 times as much, to allow for a 10% efficiency at some times.
    So, theoretical increase of Other = 21051 x 10 = 210510.
    At even 50% efficiency, the build would have to be double!
    Is this a fair assumption?

  25. 2dogs

    maybe this is not such a bad thing?

    Where does this notion come from, exactly, Boris? Transfers from poor to rich are only good when they incentivise good behaviour on the part of the rich. Is this some perverse game of devil’s advocate you are playing at?

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