Monday Forum: July 16, 2018

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  1. testpattern

    ‘Thai Cave Rescue’

    The kids should now give soccer away. I’d push them into a swimming pool and train them up to play water polo in time for the Olympics. Any who show signs of PTSD can go in the kickboxing team.

  2. C.L.

    Duckduckgo

    Hadn’t heard of them. Good search engine. Ta.

  3. OldOzzie

    WSJ Editorial – After the Strzok Stonewall
    Here’s what Trump should declassify if he wants the truth known.

    FBI agent Peter Strzok’s appearance before Congress Thursday was a predictable political circus, and here’s what we learned: President Trump will have to declassify a host of documents if he wants Americans to learn the truth about what happened in 2016.

    Mr. Strzok was combative, and he pointed to an FBI lawyer in the room as reason not to disclose much of anything about his investigation into the Russia connections of the Trump campaign. Under pressure from Ohio’s Jim Jordan, Mr. Strzok did reveal that Justice Department official Bruce Ohr acted as a channel between the opposition-research firm Fusion GPS and the FBI in 2016. We already knew that Mr. Ohr’s wife Nellie worked for Fusion.

    This means that Fusion, an outfit on the payroll of the Clinton campaign, had a messenger on the government payroll to deliver its anti-Trump documents to the FBI. This confirms that the FBI relied on politically motivated sources as part of its probe, even as Mr. Strzok insists he showed no political bias in his investigating decisions.

    Yet if this is the most Congress could pry out of the FBI’s lead Russia investigator over 10 hours, legislative oversight won’t discover the truth. Mr. Trump will have to help Congress by ordering Justice and the FBI to declassify the relevant documents. Consistent with protecting legitimate sources and methods, here is the document list Mr. Trump should want released:

    • The FISA applications. Justice and the FBI made one application and three renewals for warrants against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. The text of those applications would show the degree to which the FBI relied on the dossier compiled by Christopher Steele at the request of Fusion GPS. They would also show how honest FBI and Justice were with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that approves warrants.

    • Woods procedures documents. The FBI is required to vet and support the facts its presents to a FISA court when it seeks a warrant to eavesdrop on a U.S. citizen. These rules are known as Woods procedures, and releasing sections of this Woods file would show the extent to which the FBI verified the dossier or other evidence it used as its justification to listen to Trump campaign aides. More broadly, Mr. Trump should declassify any document that demonstrates what the FBI and Justice knew about the provenance and accuracy of the Fusion-Steele dossier.

    • The 302s. These forms include information taken from the notes FBI agents make while interviewing a source or subject. Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley last week asked Justice to declassify the 302s for 12 separate FBI interviews with Mr. Ohr concerning his contacts with Mr. Steele. Declassifying other 302s related to the subjects in this probe (including former Trump aides George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn ) would reveal what the FBI was told, who provided what information, and how much came from politically motivated sources.

    • The 1023s. These are the equivalent of 302s for counterintelligence, and they document FBI debriefings with informants or sources. Mr. Trump should declassify these and other documents showing interaction between the FBI and Mr. Steele, Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, Fusion backer Dan Jones, informant Stefan Halper, or anyone the FBI used to keep tabs on the Trump campaign. These documents would reveal the extent and dates of the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign.

    Mr. Trump is undoubtedly being told that declassifying these documents would set a bad precedent, or risk accusations that he is undermining special counsel Bob Mueller’s investigation. But the worst precedent would be letting mistrust and partisan suspicion persist over how law enforcement behaved during a presidential campaign.

    Mr. Mueller’s probe is also moving ahead without interference, as his indictment Friday of a dozen Russian agents for hacking Democratic National Committee computers shows. But indictments of Russians who will never see a U.S. courtroom don’t tell us anywhere near the complete story. That duty falls to Congress, not to a special counsel whose job is deciding whether or not to prosecute crimes.


    Mr. Trump is going to be attacked no matter what he does. He should declassify these records or stop complaining about his Justice Department’s lack of cooperation.


    Appeared in the July 14, 2018, print edition.

  4. Speedbox

    You can only imagine how dangerous working with rockets and low IQ jihadi’s is.

    True. And good riddance.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    When your previously loyal devotees start mocking you on social media and both big and small investors are querying you business model, time to re-think your petulant “toys out of the cot” approach.

    Exactly.
    Musk-rat cracked the shits with someone on Twatter the other day when they referred to him as “a billionaire”.
    “No-one ever used to call me that”.
    Um, because maybe you didn’t have a billion dollars (of OPM) then, you moron?
    But, hey, come the foreclosure … (cough) “the exit Elon had always planned” … he will get his wish and they will stop calling him “billionaire”.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    testpattern

    #2764817, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    ‘Thai Cave Rescue’

    The kids should now give soccer away

    Speaking of kids, have you landed on the tribal age of consent for Tennant Creek toddlers yet, Testes?

  7. testpattern

    Rupert rag today ‘Chinese Passengers on People Smuggling Boat not Unusual’

    I’m sick of breaking stories for Murdoch’s lazy hacks to mangle a month late. They can’t even copy me properly.

    testpattern
    #2760624, posted on July 11, 2018 at 4:14 pm

    ‘… We send smugglers back without bringing them here for trial, giving them an incentive to do it again. Latest turnback was last month en route to NZ via Oz. Seven Chinese flew from Jakarta to Makassar, got a boat to Oz, detained, given a spanking new green and white boat and sent back to West Timor where the smugglers jumped ship and fled. Indon authorities had obviously not been given informed of the turnback so couldn’t arrest the smugglers. Even if they’d wanted to.

    ‘ The three actors who are the crew of the ship allegedly jumped into the sea and fled before we arrived and secured seven foreigners with a ship named Kusum…While the ship named Kusum is known is the provision of Australian water police to foreigners of China to return to the territory of Indonesia’

    http://www.nttonlinenow.com/new-2016/2018/06/27/polda-ntt-lidik-penyelundup-tujuh-warga-negara-asing/

  8. Leigh Lowe

    OldOzzie

    #2764820, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    WSJ Editorial – After the Strzok Stonewall
    Here’s what Trump should declassify if he wants the truth known.

    I think he will eventually do that.
    And, if he goes about it the right way, he keeps it tight among his closest and simply drops it on them one Monday morning at 9:00 A.M. to be released before lunchtime.
    If he doesn’t hit them hard, they will start the drip feed of excuses, qualifiers and “endangered assets” (which is utter bullshit) which will flow from release.

  9. JC

    Des Deskperson

    I have usually found Johanna’s comments, particularly her critiques of the APS, to be informed, prescient and well written.

    Thanks for making the first attempt at drawing lines in the sand in terms of who you support etc because it allows me to counter punch and I’ve always wanted to get this off my chest with you. I’ve read lots of your criticisms regarding the APS, but it has always left me wondering. Why and how could you work, in what is essentially a dead weight loss to the economy (to the rest of us) /parasitical job? Other than perhaps 200 staff, not including essential services likes cops and guards etc, Canberra could be wiped off the map and it would actually increase living standards for the rest of us. I even think you’d agree with this. Yes, I’ve read your complaints, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom why you would work in this environment taking our money. You can argue that you worked hard, like the slob has asserted, but what for? To what purpose. It’s not productive labor. Instead, if you and many others refused to work for the government, it would be impossible for it to function. think about that. The government couldn’t function without willing taxeaters.

    If you truly believe what you’ve said in the past, you would at least return the accumulated superannuation to the ATO as it are ill-gotten. In fact, I would argue that non-violent drug dealing and even prostitution provides more value.

    I also tend to stick up for her because we were both ‘tax-eaters’, we both live in the same area and we both have a bit of the same feeling for its peculiar political and socio/economic eccentricities as well as its interesting geography and topography.

    No matter what, hey? Interesting.

    I don’t have the time or interest to scroll back through the comments to see who, out of you, Johanna and any others involved, has been the rudest.

    You should, or you probably have but won’t admit it because if you did, the “sanest” comment would end up being laughable nonsense.

    Des, the genesis of this argument started because the slob referred to a piece s/he claimed to have read and signed off the post by suggesting “our” money is being wasted by a particular government program or general waste.
    I find it abhorrent someone who’s claimed to have worked for the APS regards it as “our” money. It simply isn’t. I, of course, told her so. Her general response is something like… “get fucked you wog”. It’s the usual thing I expect.

    Getting back to my point. I find your position implying you’re on the Right, to be untenable after having worked for the APS because of what it represents and how you earned a salary. It’s even worse than the leftwing position, because at least with a left winger, their position has a logical sequence to it. They believe in big government. You claim not to and yet you happily worked for the enemy. How can a sane person respect this position?

  10. Eyrie

    Speedbox, SpaceX has the runs on the board. They are eating everyone else’s lunch by making a better mousetrap and their development methodology works as shown by the results. The Old Space companies are feeling the draft and use writers for hire to denigrate SpaceX in the media.
    Tesla OTOH is a tragedy in the making and if it personally destroys Musk the longer term implications for the human race are dire because the fallout may kill SpaceX or turn it into merely a satellite launching company.

  11. stackja

    Tag team on Thailand?

  12. Speedbox

    Musk-rat cracked the shits with someone on Twatter the other day when they referred to him as “a billionaire”.

    Yeah, saw that. I thought the same. Plus, the media have been referring to “billionaire Elon Musk” for ages.

    But Musk will always be financially intact because whilst there are vast slabs of OPM involved, Musk will have taken sufficient steps to protect his personal fortune. He may be dumb but I doubt he is that stupid.

  13. Spider

    Van Badham frothing off at the mouth on The Dumb.

    Even Van Wrongleson as host seems mildly exasperated with her lunacy.

  14. Rae

    Too important to leave over the fold.

    Leigh Lowe #2764790, posted on July 16, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    [Rae] suggested here yesterday that the [mini] sub could have made it through the cave because the stretchers carrying the kids did. {And because it was pretty much the same size as the stretchers, and while the mini sub was rigid and might no be able to bend around corners, the same applied to the stretchers].

    Pity people don’t read jack-shit before they post.

    The kids swam their way (escorted by two divers) through the tight spots and were only put on stretchers for the final leg out in the massive sections of cave.

    All of the boys and their coach were brought out of the cave on stretchers in an extraordinary mission.

    The Thai prime minister also said on Tuesday the boys were given an anti-anxiety medication as part of the rescue. And since the medic in the cave, Richard Harris, was an anesthetist, he may have overseen that part of the rescue effort.

    A former Thai Navy SEAL involved with the operation, Commander Chaiyananta Peeranarong, told AFP on Wednesday that the boys were “sleeping or partially-conscious as they were passed from diver-to-diver through the cave.”

    “Some of them were asleep, some of them were wiggling their fingers… (as if) groggy, but they were breathing,” he said.

    There are conflicting reports of how much and what kind of medication given to the boys to keep them calm or knock them out for the operation. CBS reported that the boys were given only anti-anxiety medication, but AFP’s source said some of the boys were fully sedated.

    Sedated. Strapped to a stretcher. Between 2 divers. All the way out.

    Yes, it is a pity you didn’t read before you posted.

  15. dover_beach
    #2764672, posted on July 16, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    No, “I wanna leave you alone” means “I wanna leave you alone”.
    If *you* mock someone’s position then later on through your own fault, presume that strawman is what they believe, that is your fault, not theirs.

    Not at all, I’m simply making the point that the above is not unconditional as is demonstrated whenever we consider this or that circumstance. This is further demonstrated by the variety of positions libertarians themselves take on this or that matter.

    So wait, conservatives all agree with each other?

    Libertarian political parties in Aus:

    LDP

    Conservatives political parties in Aus:

    Australian Conservatives
    Shooters, Fishers, Farmers
    One Nation
    Australian Liberty Alliance
    Chrisitan Democrats
    Australian Christians
    Liberal Party (j/k!)
    “National” Party…

  16. JC

    Des Deskperson

    I have usually found Johanna’s comments, particularly her critiques of the APS, to be informed, prescient and well written.

    Thanks for making the first attempt at drawing lines in the sand in terms of who you support etc because it allows me to counter punch and I’ve always wanted to get this off my chest with you. I’ve read lots of your criticisms regarding the APS, but it has always left me wondering. Why and how could you work, in what is essentially a dead weight loss to the economy (to the rest of us) /parasitical job? Other than perhaps 200 staff, not including essential services likes cops and guards etc, Canberra could be wiped off the map and it would actually increase living standards for the rest of us. I even think you’d agree with this. Yes, I’ve read your complaints, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom why you would work in this environment taking our money. You can argue that you worked hard, like the slob has asserted, but what for? To what purpose. It’s not productive labor. Instead, if you and many others refused to work for the government, it would be impossible for it to function. think about that. The government couldn’t function without willing taxeaters.

    If you truly believe what you’ve said in the past, you would at least return the accumulated superannuation to the ATO as it are ill-gotten. In fact, I would argue that non-violent drug dealing and even prostitution provides more value.

    I also tend to stick up for her because we were both ‘tax-eaters’, we both live in the same area and we both have a bit of the same feeling for its peculiar political and socio/economic eccentricities as well as its interesting geography and topography.

    No matter what, hey? Interesting.

    I don’t have the time or interest to scroll back through the comments to see who, out of you, Johanna and any others involved, has been the rudest.

    You should, or you probably have but won’t admit it because if you did, the “sanest” comment would end up being laughable nonsense. And Des, I didn’t ask you to judge the “rudest” comments. I asked you something else … to take a look at her comments regarding Rabz and then return to defend this absurd claim. Nice attempt at dissembling there.

    Des, the genesis of this argument started because the slob referred to a piece s/he claimed to have read and signed off the post by suggesting “our” money is being wasted by a particular government program or general waste.
    I find it abhorrent someone who’s claimed to have worked for the APS regards it as “our” money. It simply isn’t. I, of course, told her so. Her general response is something like… “get fucked you w*g”. It’s the usual thing I expect.

    Getting back to my point. I find your position implying you’re on the Right, to be untenable after having worked for the APS because of what it represents and how you earned a salary. It’s even worse than the leftwing position, because at least with a left winger, their position has a logical sequence to it. They believe in big government. You claim not to and yet you happily worked for the enemy. How can a sane person respect this position?

    Bundy&Rum

    Grow a fucking brain or at least get a transplant.

  17. Boambee John

    My Repetitive Scrolling Injury is acting up again.

  18. South Sudanese PR Department Swings into Action.
    From the Oz:
    “Airbnb owners and media are partly to blame for a wave of youth crime, a South Sudanese figure says.”

    IIRC there’s been problems with “racist” Airbnb owners being reluctant to take bookings from black strangers.

    Complete mystery why Airbnb owners feel this way – must be racism I suppose, coz there’s nothing else it could be.

  19. Peter Campion

    Arrived at Southern-Ridd-Shelton venue.
    No leftards in evidence.
    Couple of relaxed looking Plods.
    The tropics are so laid back…

  20. bundyrum

    Fuck off head prefect you absolute twat.

  21. Rae

    Her general response is something like… “get fucked you w*g”.

    Bad Johanna. It’s not right. You’re Sicilian so they say. So, you’re actually a Wop.

  22. pete m

    The stretchers were purpose built not to be rigid – they could bend, unlike the musk missile capsule.

    Please don’t bother with the sock moron who once again is wrong.

  23. Fuck off head prefect you absolute twat.

    Fair & accurate comment.
    Not even harsh.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    But Musk will always be financially intact because whilst there are vast slabs of OPM involved, Musk will have taken sufficient steps to protect his personal fortune. He may be dumb but I doubt he is that stupid.

    Yeah, the thought of the Musk-busker playing his banjo in the mall to get by is just a bit of unlikely wishful thinking.
    But the fall from grace when Tesla falls in a steaming heap will be sweet and I suspect it will severely crimp his ability to access OPM for his other ventures. I don’t agree with Eyrie that this would constitute a disaster for mankind.
    Wankers destroying wealth to pursue their whims is a bigger threat to mankind.

  25. Chris

    Van Badham frothing off at the mouth on The Dumb.

    Even Van Wrongleson as host seems mildly exasperated with her lunacy.

    Pardon my incredulity, but how can you watch it?
    I start gibbering and have to leave the room.

  26. bundyrum

    Sorry Serena….i was trying to be nice to the big mouthed sack of shit.

  27. Rae

    The stretchers were purpose built not to be rigid

    Yes, sure. Somebody rushed out to the local stretcher manufacturer and put in a rush order for 13 bendy submersible stretchers.

    What a dim bulb you are. Try putting your brain in gear before you comment. In the unlikely event that you actually have a brain.

  28. JC

    Driller

    It’s not strictly a comment, but a reply. Bundy’s just sore because he’s essentially irrelevant. Pretty much like you.

  29. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764846, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Sorry Serena….i was trying to be nice to the big mouthed sack of shit.

    Good, at least he’s trained to show deference, albeit in the wrong direction. 🙂

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fair & accurate comment.
    Not even harsh.

    Indeed, Satp.

  31. Mitch M.

    You can only imagine how dangerous working with rockets and low IQ jihadi’s is.

    There is an entertaining British satire on 4 Jihadis attempting a terrorist attack: Four Lions.

  32. Eyrie

    Leigh, depends whether you want humans to be limited by the size of the Petri dish and begin to consume each other or have access to the resources of the universe.

  33. bundyrum

    JC you are just an arrogant gobshite…a big mouth fuck all james blunt.

  34. Mak Siccar

    Peter Campion
    #2764839, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:30 pm
    Arrived at Southern-Ridd-Shelton venue.
    No leftards in evidence.

    Enjoy and please keep the Cats informed.

  35. Geriatric Mayfly

    The passion in this evening’s sky is palpable. Venus and the hornéd moon are within the orbit of embrace.
    Look up!

  36. You may be able to self- direct your learning with minimal intervention from a teacher and get a better result.
    Believe me. Most people can’t.

    I’m not sure I do.

    I am not even sure if educating people before they want it is a good idea. If you took an adult, how long would it take to bring them from illiteracy and innumeracy to the level of the end of a decent 1st year university degree?

    The public goods and merit goods arguments for public education are a lot more flimsy than their reputations. I worked as an electoral booth worker once. It opened my eyes in a direction I did not realise existed. If education was meant to help civil discourse and the functioning of a democratic or at least a meritocratic state…it has failed that test.

    The fetish for skills in this country is a bizarre phenomenon. Work in the private sector never really needed anything beyond year 12 for me and as an academic, rarely anything beyond an undergraduate education.

    Unless you really specialise in the trades or professions, you don’t need to be especially skilled or intelligent. Circuit design and surgery – sure, I want a genius. As for changing over electrical outlets and filing basic legal documents – virtually anyone who was not asleep or stoned out of their mind in year 12 could do them with some elbow grease. Hell, I’d take the education of someone who got a good School Certificate mark decades ago over someone who flopped over the line like a dead carp in Year 12 now.

    What we have here in Australia is contempt for hard work, not a genuine “skills crisis”.

    Even if we were not short of specialised welders and gasfitters during the mining boom, it would have created only a few thousand jobs at a maximum.

    The prattling on about skills by MPs who cannot fix their own printer in the middle of an AI revolution is hilariously sad.

    The lynchpin problem for education in Australia to me is that accreditation is given out by politicians. There should be nothing stopping Microsoft or the Australian Mathematics Association granting a degree in IT or maths/data analysis. It would reduce the costs, entry requirements, the justification for much of the preceding infrastructure and the competition would shake up universities to teach more relevant, industry-based skills.

    At the moment we assume that 21-22-year-olds pursuing a white collar profession cannot work alone and yet we punish them for group work (“cheating”). None of this is relevant to the labour market and practicalities have crushed such ideas in the trades.

    That, hand in hand with the antiquated idea of “cohorts” makes universities at least inefficient. The only argument to retain cohorts and not take on the notion of proctored tests to attempt any level of theory-based subject achievement is the laziness of staff an institutions to write and hold more examinations!

  37. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764853, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    JC you are just an arrogant gobshite…a big mouth fuck all james blunt.

    George, I can live with that and it appears you can operate with just a barely functional brain stem. All good.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    The stretchers were purpose built not to be rigid – they could bend, unlike the musk missile capsule.

    That was my take too Pete.
    I thought I saw a report on Fox in the middle of the night last week talking about how they had effectively sawn a litter in half around the hip area, drilled some holes and re-joined it with cable-ties or somesuch.
    It was simply a way of pulling the kid along without dragging him by the limbs and also protecting him from rocky snags.
    And, despite that, the sardine-can still has to find a way through the narrow opening, in 1-2 foot visibility presumably towing a boy with no way of knowing if a problem has occurred and stopping it.
    What happens, for instance, if the kid gets snagged and the sardine-can continues to motor along.
    I’ll tell you what happens … even under a level of sedation the kid goes off, gets a mask full of water and drowns in short order. But, hey, even if a couple drown, think of the brand recognition!
    In any case, all that aside, I am not sure where Musk gets off calling someone a p 3 do, simply because he doesn’t prostrate himself before Musk-rat.
    Interesting that Musk-rat (or his lawyers) agree with me … the Tweets are gone.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie

    #2764852, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    Leigh, depends whether you want humans to be limited by the size of the Petri dish and begin to consume each other or have access to the resources of the universe.

    That is one argument, to be sure, but I don’t necessarily see Musk-rat as the sole or best solution.

  40. bundyrum

    Fuck knows who George is….but you should be bunged off this site for your hate….again you are a real pos….your arrogance & insults to many show your tiny brain…..now fuck off you twat.

  41. Marty

    Look up!

    I did and they are magnificent – thank you for advice.

  42. thefrolickingmole

    If a negative pixel spoace quotes a negative news source (Vox-LOL) is that like diziding by zero by zero?

    Does the sum vacuousness of both cancel each other out?
    Do people actually know less after clicking on a Vox link posted by a non entity?

    One things for sure, were gunna need a bigger scroll wheel.

  43. testpattern

    MV Rushcutter [HDML 1321] in Darwin refloated for restoration. Was once used in WW2 during Operation Copper

    https://www.facebook.com/Save1321/

    ‘Operation Copper was carried out by the Allied commando unit Z Special Unit, during World War II. The objective of the mission was to investigate the Japanese defences on Muschu Island, capture a Japanese officer for interrogation and discover the location of two naval guns on the island that covered the approaches to Wewak Harbour. Eight commandos were landed as part of the operation; only one survived.’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Copper

  44. Marty

    Look up!

    I did and they are magnificent – thank you for notice.

  45. Mitch M.

    Musk the longer term implications for the human race are dire because the fallout may kill SpaceX or turn it into merely a satellite launching company.

    That Mars stuff is nonsense. A one way trip to insanity. There is already a multitude of studies highlighting a range of physiological disorders in astronauts who spend long periods at the Space Station. We are adapted to earth gravity and Mars will entail far too many health issues. Reproduction may well be impossible.

    We’re stuck here and until we find new means of propulsion and gravity control that isn’t going to change.

  46. Damienski

    They blow up so quickly these days…

    The Slayer wins the the internets for the day.

    Slays ’em in the aisles…

  47. JC

    Artiste:

    It’s really nothing to do with love. It’s to do with reality and getting the point across the libertarian position is hard edged.

    You’ve been frustrated too here as Dot has been and others who take a hardcore libertarian line. A large percentage of comments here go something like this.
    1. I ‘ate abos
    2. I ‘ate muzzos and most immigrants (except those I like sometimes).

    The problem is there’s a lot of commenters here aren’t capable of seeing the real problem which is leftism. This takes a little more thought and understanding though.

    It explains why having a former APSer referring to “our” money isn’t just misleading but actually offensive to the rest of us who paid taxes as a result of the earning money in the private sphere. It also explains why Des’s position – complaining about the APS while working there – is quite disgusting.

    Stick to your guns.

  48. Mitch

    The real issue is unlocking nuclear energy.

    There are already observed propellantless methods which are not economically feasible yet.

    Mahood, Thomas L. (February 1999). “Propellantless propulsion: Recent experimental results exploiting transient mass modification”. AIP Conference Proceedings. Space Technology and Applications International Forum-STAIF 2000, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 458. American Institute of Physics. pp. 1014–1020.

  49. thefrolickingmole

    In honor of the purple heart for senate testimony given out last week.

    When I start makin’ testimony
    I don’t just make lies
    I be Strzokin’
    That’s what I be doin’, huh
    I be Strzokin’
    I Strzok it to the east
    And I Strzok it to the west
    And I Strzok it to the “Illary that I love the best
    I be Strzokin’
    Let me ask you somethin’
    What time of the day do you like to make lies
    Have you ever made lies just before breakfast
    Have you ever made lies while you watched the late, late show
    Well, let me ask you this
    Have you ever made lies on a couch
    Well, let me ask you this
    Have you ever made lies on the back seat of a car
    I remember one time I made lies on the back seat of a car
    And the senators came and shined his light on me, and I said:
    ‘I’m Strzokin’, that’s what I’m doin’, I be Strzokin”
    I Strzok it to the east
    And I Strzok it to the west
    And I Strzok it to the ‘Illary that I love the best
    I be Strzokin’

  50. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764860, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    Fuck knows who George is….but you should be bunged off this site for your hate….again you are a real pos….your arrogance & insults to many show your tiny brain…..now fuck off you twat.

    “George” is George Bundie. Look him up. Your blog name reminded me of him. What I “‘ate”, George is leftism and hypocrisy. I can’t explain hypocrisy to you because it would get through. “Leftism” would also be too hard.

    Now calm down.

  51. Gab

    Peter Campion
    #2764839, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:30 pm
    Arrived at Southern-Ridd-Shelton venue.
    No leftards in evidence.

    Looking forward to your dispatches from the front line, Peter.

  52. Rae

    Look up!

    I did and they are magnificent

    Venus and the moon do look excellent tonight. It’s a shame we haven’t sighted in the telescope since Saturn and it rings were close some years ago. Might fix that tomorrow.

  53. JC

    Dot.
    What ever happened to thorium reactors as I thought that had a bit of a show. India was supposed to be ahead of the curve there.

  54. bundyrum

    JC….I am far from left….you open borders freak.

  55. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764874, posted on July 16, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    JC….I am far from left….you open borders freak.

    I don’t don’t think you much of anything other than a “textor”, George.
    Unless you’ve got something substantial to say other than rude texts, then buzz off.

  56. Baldrick

    The best comeback I’ve seen for Killary’s tweet:

    Hillary Clinton ✔ @HillaryClinton
    Great World Cup. Question for President Trump as he meets Putin: Do you know which team you play for?
    _____
    James Woods ✔ @RealJamesWoods
    The varsity. You’re selling hot dogs in the bleachers. Get back to work.

  57. Rae

    Unless you’ve got something substantial to say other than rude texts, then buzz off.

    Lol

  58. Megan

    The passion in this evening’s sky is palpable. Venus and the hornéd moon are within the orbit of embrace.
    Look up!

    Just got back from a long walk along the beach and it was magic! Last night had the added bonus of Mecury dropping behind the mountains.

  59. Good progress, actually.

    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/07/funding-for-thorium-molten-salt-and-other-advanced-nuclear-reactors.html

    The best thing about this all is that small modular reactors are becoming a reality. Previously, a small reactor was the size of a small truck and could only be put in a very large basement.

  60. Eyrie

    Mitch M. Spin gravity works just fine. Just like in the von Braun space station concepts from the 50s. I agree, Mars ain’t the place. Why crawl into a hole when you just got out of one? See Gerry O’Neill.

  61. Damienski

    Paging Calli. Paging Calli.

    Stoush 0’clock appears to be ahead of schedule.

    You may need to hire an extra large-capacity pressure cleaner for this evening

  62. calli

    The rescuers so far have not specified what type of stretcher they used. These guys use a Schwarzer which is bendable (there’s a F/B page if anyone’s interested). The cave at its narrowest was only 600mm, but the boys were slight and sedated.

    This interview with one of the divers sheds more light, but is still very sketchy.

  63. testpattern

    ‘The memorial slipped off the coastline at Mercury Bay on Sunday morning’

    Finally, Capt Cook buried at sea –

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/07/coromandel-s-captain-cook-monument-falls-into-the-sea.html

  64. bundyrum

    JC always has to have the last words…here are mine…fuck off you big headed arsehole.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    thefrolickingmole

    #2764869, posted on July 16, 2018 at 6:00 pm

    In honor of the purple heart for senate testimonygiven out last week.

    When I first saw reference to that I thought it was a parody of something Maxine Waters would say.
    No way did I think a serving Dem pollie would actually say that out loud.
    Then I saw the grab on Fox over the weekend.
    Fucking jaw-dropping.
    Pretty much scrubbed the vote from 99% of those who have actually been wounded in battle and their families.

  66. calli

    That’s lovely, Mayfly! Magical.

    Has Mars just risen, or did I see a late plane?

  67. Peter Campion

    Just spent half an hour chatting with Peter Ridd. Brilliant man.

    Lauren Southern is a dead-set glamour, btw.

  68. Mitch M.

    Mitch M. Spin gravity works just fine. Just like in the von Braun space station concepts from the 50s. I agree, Mars ain’t the place. Why crawl into a hole when you just got out of one? See Gerry O’Neill.

    I was thinking more in terms of developing a deeper understanding of gravity, it remains a big theoretic problem in physics.

    Frank: thanks for that. Beyond my comprehension but interesting. That paper is from 1999, the mass changes aspect is fascinating, might be interesting to see if it has been followed through. I think physicists should focus on issues like that because it seems these days they are more interested in mathematical games than solving problems.

  69. Mitch M.

    but the boys were slight and sedated.

    Saved by the absence of fast food …

  70. Tel

    But, hey, come the foreclosure … (cough) “the exit Elon had always planned” … he will get his wish and they will stop calling him “billionaire”.

    I kind of do hope they go after the grifter, because his projects are generally pretty useless and sucky sucky to government bureaucrats for more of the tax slurpy slurpy. He’s the Age of Seeming poster child, and that shits me.

  71. nemkat

    Fleagle, Drooper, Bingo,and Snorky, they’re the Cat’s bendy banana stretchers.

  72. DrBeauGan

    Gregory Benford’s books, The Martian Race, Sunborn are well worth reading on why Mars.

    It’s a whole new world. And finding life on Mars is a possibility.

    And such fun to get away from the bureaucrats! 😁

  73. So wait, conservatives all agree with each other?

    Where do I ever suggest that? It still stands that your slogan evaporates as soon as we consider this or that circumstance.

  74. Bela Bartok

    I come here for the intelligent repartee, actually.
    Seems the milk of human kindness has soured?
    It’s like reading the tweets on Q&A – but I’m guessing these people arguing here aren’t pimply and adolescent, so that excuse isn’t available.
    FFS quit the insults!

  75. calli

    Hey Mitch. I took your advice and bought some hemp powder.

    I will keep you posted as to whether I start exhibiting superhuman powers. 🙂

    Something interesting about keto, which happens to be pretty non-inflamatory – I can do flights of steps now that were just a dream 6 months ago. The old arthritic joints (one of which has a partial) seem to be ageing backwards (they’re about 40 now).

  76. Senile Old Guy

    At the moment we assume that 21-22-year-olds pursuing a white collar profession cannot work alone and yet we punish them for group work (“cheating”).

    Only usually when they are supposed to submit individual work, which is required in plenty of places. There are usually also group assignments set. And some ” individual” assignments may require individual submissions but not penalise collaboration on the problem.

  77. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can’t see the lower east from here because of volcanic impedimenta.

    But last night I was elsewhere, and his raging visage glared west from the moment of ascent. With those two almost in flagrante this evening, the God of War may not be one to trifle with.

  78. Only usually when they are supposed to submit individual work, which is required in plenty of places. There are usually also group assignments set. And some ” individual” assignments may require individual submissions but not penalise collaboration on the problem.

    What workplace, outside of giving evidence in court genuinely requires individual work?

    I have not seen my GP “failed” when they look up a certain medication etc. It’s not different to a GP in US HMO getting on the internal line and asking a pharmacist a question.

    Say you bring up truck drivers. The way they are trained and assessed is nothing like academia. They also work in shifts/teams as well.

  79. Herodotus

    Sold your Sydney Airport stock yet JC? Or are you still a parasite?

  80. Mitch M.

    Something interesting about keto, which happens to be pretty non-inflamatory – I can do flights of steps now that were just a dream 6 months ago. The old arthritic joints (one of which has a partial) seem to be ageing backwards (they’re about 40 now).

    Keto is fascinating. It actually can increase oxidative stress but promotes better health by reducing inflammation because ketones are anti-inflammatory. I’ve read an animal study which argued just providing ketones in the diet had remarkably beneficial effects. Lots of people and an increasing number of studies are finding keto diets can be very health promoting. Your self reports are encouraging so it appears to be working very well for you. That’s what matters. People vary but so many health advocates seem to think we are all clones. Your arthritic reversal is remarkable and suggests more inflammatory mediated pain than structural damage to the joint causing the pain. You may still have structural damage but it may now be healing. Bones are constantly being remodeled by osteoblasts and osteoclasts so even if there is damage that may be reduced over time. Happy for your results because arthritis is typically degenerative over time.

    Hemp powder may contain negligible amounts of CBD. It still has benefits but I prefer cannabidiol oil. There is a huge research effort now going on. Sadly though just last week I watched a video by some consumer watchdog in the USA and it noted that many cannabinoid products on the market are like so many other supplements: very poor quality.

  81. DrBeauGan

    Students doing collaborative work learn cheating. Skiving off and letting someone else do all the work happens. So does one student organising the others while knowing bugger all about the details of the project. A preparation for being directed by ignorant bureaucrats, perhaps.

    Finding new ways of avoiding individual responsibility is endemic. But it makes for less marking.

  82. Rae

    Ah. Still Trying to be One of the Boys, a Digital Retard of the female variety, seeking evidence of the use of articulated stretchers in a recent cave rescue.

    Lotsa luck, Hun. Tee hee. And chortle.

  83. calli

    Keep going, Rae. You cover yourself in glory.

  84. JC

    Herodotus
    #2764901, posted on July 16, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    Sold your Sydney Airport stock yet JC? Or are you still a parasite?

    Herod, you know the worse thing about you. It’s not just “pedestrian-ness” and your simplicity. Your passive aggressiveness is annoying too. No, I have sold any and why would I when I think it’s heading to 10 bucks a share.

    What’s your point eggsactly? That a passive investment in a stock is the same as working for the APS and skimming from the rest of us. That’s what you’re implying is it?

    Syd is a regulated entity just like Driller’s truck stop is regulated.

    APSers are parasites and have no place is civilized nations, just like leftists. This of course doesn’t include essential services like the military and the cops. APSers pretending to be rightwing are even worse because they know they’re doing wrong. Their salaries are paid through the indirect threat of violence against the rest of us. It’s stealing.

    Now, lets see you put up a decent argument against this for once. 🙂

  85. DrBeauGan
    #2764903, posted on July 16, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    Students doing collaborative work learn cheating. Skiving off and letting someone else do all the work happens. So does one student organising the others while knowing bugger all about the details of the project. A preparation for being directed by ignorant bureaucrats, perhaps.

    Finding new ways of avoiding individual responsibility is endemic. But it makes for less marking.

    I can tell you being paired up with a dolt as an undergrad is better than walking into collaboration with stupid, dishonest and useless academics on a journal article.

    Marking is easy, journal refereeing is real work 😉

  86. OldOzzie

    Just watched Labor Shadow Minister for Defence Richard Marles on Credlin Sky News

    Very Impressive, leaves Marise Payne Liberal Minister for Defence for Dead

    Marise Payne ,like Turdbill, is a waste of space.

    Labor needs more Richard Marles

  87. JC is leaving the Cat:

    Unless you’ve got something substantial to say other than rude texts, then buzz off.

    The resident haemorrhoid will be missed.

  88. cohenite

    Peter Campion
    #2764839, posted on July 16, 2018 at 5:30 pm
    Arrived at Southern-Ridd-Shelton venue.
    No leftards in evidence.

    Good, keep us posted. Am going to the Sydney event.

  89. Baldrick

    Keep going, Rae. You cover yourself in glory mothers skin.

    Fixed. 😸

  90. Tom

    Now calm down.

    Translation: I’m losing the argument.

  91. Slayer of Memes

    Lauren Southern is a dead-set glamour, btw.

    Yes, yes she is. All Conservative ladies are.

    And the less said of the hideous she-beasts that infect the Left, the better for keeping my dinner from repeating on me…

  92. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The resident haemorrhoid will be missed.

    Admit it, Satp. You’ll be sorry to see the silly old duffer go.

  93. Peter Campion

    Lauren is smart, funny and engaging.

    Just had chats with Lyle Shelton and George Christiansen, too. Great gathering.

  94. nemkat

    First, there’s this:
    This of course doesn’t include essential services like the military and the cops.

    Then this:
    Their salaries are paid through the indirect threat of violence against the rest of us.

    That threat, which is the only function of your Essential Services like the Military,and the Cops.

  95. Mitch M.

    Refuel and rearm their fighters in 8 minutes! Israel’s stunning victory.

  96. BrettW

    I know it is not yet stoush o’clock but I would just like to say JC is the most obnoxious member of this forum and works hard to live up to his reputation as head prefect. Seems to have added a few more to his list of “fans” today.

    Please carry on as I am busy and can’t play.

  97. nemkat

    Labor needs more Richard Marles

    Labor needs more converts to Islam,you reckon?

  98. JC

    It’s like old times for Rones. He fondly recalls the days he could join a pack. These days even Driller avoids him. It’s three cars a week now.

    Serena at the Pub
    #2764912, posted on July 16, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    JC is leaving the Cat:

    Unless you’ve got something substantial to say other than rude texts, then buzz off.

    The resident haemorrhoid will be missed.

    Drill’s do you realize 50% of your comments are directed him toward me? You have nothing else to say other than the occasional plussing 1000. Go pour drinks.

  99. Peter Campion

    There’s at least 200 people at this forum. Not bad for a Monday night in a regional area.

  100. cohenite

    Why crawl into a hole when you just got out of one? See Gerry O’Neill.

    The problem is the holes are where the energy and materials are. Mars has a lot of metal resources, a molten core and, in the absence of tectonic plates, large volcanoes which should see concentration of ore resources. Being a lighter planet the gravitational well of Mars is just over 35% of Earths. With these advantages development of the planet would take a fraction of the amount spent on alarmism.

  101. Chris

    APSers are parasites and have no place is civilized nations, just like leftists. This of course doesn’t include essential services like the military and the cops. APSers pretending to be rightwing are even worse because they know they’re doing wrong. Their salaries are paid through the indirect threat of violence against the rest of us. It’s stealing.

    Now, lets see you put up a decent argument against this for once. 🙂

    A moment of thought for someone as clever as you are, JC, would supply a solid answer.
    Otherwise, see Bundyrum to ask where to go from there.

  102. Rae

    Keep going, Rae. You cover yourself in glory.

    Hun, you don’t. Trying your best to help out a couple of the boys by proving me wrong. And you’re just not up to it.

    Tee hee.

  103. Peter Campion

    The Free Speech Forum FNQ was organised by the Young Conservatives North Queensland.

    They’ve already had death threats via spacechook.

  104. bundyrum

    JC……Here boy…..i got a scooby snack for ya…..here boy….here boy…….last word for ya gobshite.

  105. Going on a German history documentary binge.

    Found this in the comments:

    jahnsahn76
    1 week ago
    Jokester30 Don’t worry, another 21/2 years of trump and his Vichy Congress and nobody will even remember the 1930’s and 40’s. Seems half of America has already forgotten about the Evils of Fascism and the millions who died fighting against it. Honestly, after 45 years of being angry at the German People I have become sympathetic to the plight of the decent Germans and the nightmare they went through, and am now ashamed to be an American.

    jahnsahn76
    jahnsahn76
    1 week ago
    They’re just getting warmed up. A lot of good, decent Germans supported Hitler in the thirties. When they found out what an evil monstrosity he was, it was too late. Here in the States we’ve all known what a disgusting hateful monster trump is from the beginning. That’s why I’m ashamed of my country

    jahnsahn76
    jahnsahn76
    1 week ago
    JC House of Bourbon You’re pathetic. Antifa is the Right wing’s version of Hitler’s Communists. Better be a good little Republican or ANTIFA WILL GET YOU!!!! Fox news is “right leaning”. Wow! I’d call you an idiot but you know exactly what you’re doing. Hail trump!

    Cannot tell if insane left, trolling, trolling for lulz or just batshit.

  106. Mitch M.

    British cave diver considering legal action after ‘pedo’ attack by Elon Musk

    He should be offered every encouragement to do so. If Musk has any humility he already should have apologized. No confidential settlement! I want to see Musk thoroughly humiliated.

  107. Eyrie

    Cohenite, all that stuff is available in the Belt, including 24/7 solar which isn’t available on planetary surfaces. You can also generate any gravity level you like in case humans cannot handle long periods in zero g. We do know zero g is Ok for a few weeks at a time so we might see FIFO operations on the Moon and Mars with time off in one g in spinning habitats.

  108. Peter Campion

    PA system problems causing much laughter and fun. Very relaxed crowd.

  109. JC

    I know it is not yet stoush o’clock but I would just like to say JC is the most obnoxious member of this forum and works hard to live up to his reputation….

    Lol.. Rooster, it not hard you know. Having an intolerance to stupid shit, hypocritical dickheads with the latest addition being Desk Desperson.

    Stop it, as Rones is getting a hard on hoping a pack gets formed.

    ————
    Leave aside the claim that I’m obnoxious, rude, w*g, a prick etc. That’s old hat. We’ve heard the before and I always get the violin out. I would like to have the Slob’s supporters defend the position that an APS, taxeating parasite can describe government waste… also as a waste of “our” money.

    Forget about me, as I’m not the story here. Try and see how any of you can defend that position while at the same time pretending you dislike big government.

    Serena how about you? What about you George? Rooster, Herod? Any of you?

    If you like, try and make it a collaborative effort if it’s too difficult to attempt on your own.

    I’ll leave Ronery aside, as that’s just beyond him.

  110. Boambee John

    Scrollin’, scrollin’, scrollin’.

  111. Mitch M.

    Cohenite, all that stuff is available in the Belt, including 24/7 solar which isn’t available on planetary surfaces. You can also generate any gravity level you like in case humans cannot handle long periods in zero g. We do know zero g is Ok for a few weeks at a time so we might see FIFO operations on the Moon and Mars with time off in one g in spinning habitats.

    Possible to automate, use AI for such mining?

  112. DrBeauGan

    Greg Benford is a bit of a lefty. Goes on about Martian life being cooperative, unlike ours. Also takes AGW seriously. Still, he’s worth reading. And his heroine likes stromatolites, as I do.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    Just watching the History Channel.
    JFK meeting Kruschev in Vienna.
    Not such a bad idea, apparently.

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I know it is not yet stoush o’clock but I would just like to say JC is the most obnoxious member of this forum and works hard to live up to his reputation…

    You’ll miss the silly old duffer when he’s gone. The lies, the slander, the snark, the spectacle of him bawling in the corner, complaining that he’s being picked on..

  115. bundyrum

    Head prefect are our soldiers tax eating parasites?……you still got a scooby snack here waiting for you.

  116. Peter Campion

    First speaker discussing Bishop Porteous and the Tassie anti-discrimination commissioner named – seriously – Robin Banks.

    Robin Banks made Julian Porteous an example to other ministers of religion. The process was the punishment.

  117. JC

    Rones

    Post your comments at the blog specially created for you. Stop ruing the Cat.

  118. Top Ender

    We’re stuck here and until we find new means of propulsion and gravity control that isn’t going to change.

    Have been watching a few episodes of The Expanse. Not convinced and may give up…

    However two points of interest:

    1) a form of torture, being used by the UN, was to hang Belters (those who normally lived in the asteroid belt) off a wall for a while on Earth. The higher gravity was not nice.

    2) mag-boots being used by people on metal space stations.

  119. nemkat

    You just sucked up to the cops by calling them an essential service, then 10 seconds later, you had a cry about the Government taxing you at gunpoint.
    Who do you think is on the other end of the gun?

  120. Oh come on

    I’m embarrassed to have initially defended Musk’s crappy sub. Thought he was doing good by at least making a tangible effort to contribute in some way. Then he acted like a petulant child after his sub wasn’t used in the successful rescue of all the trapped people. Now this pedo business. What a disgrace.

    He achieved something pretty amazing with the Falcon Heavy and the reusable boosters. Dear lord he has blotted his copybook terribly since then.

  121. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764944, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    Head prefect are our soldiers tax eating parasites?……you still got a scooby snack here waiting for you.

    George.

    I specifically ruled essential services out. Try a little more comprehension even with the brain stem limitation.
    However, I qualify that by saying this. The current top brass of the ADF are mendacious parasites.

  122. bundyrum

    Learn to spell scooby.

  123. bundyrum
    #2764944, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:21 pm
    Head prefect are our soldiers tax eating parasites

    What about Jacquie Lambie? You tell me.

    Let’s be realistic. Some cops and soldiers are great and do excellent work.

    Are people really meant to respect OSR ticket inspectors and RMS speed trap operators in the same way as a homicide detective?

    Am I meant to respect Morrison or Cate McGregor the way I respect the SAS or RAR?

    Now, crown prosecutors…a lot of their work is chasing up dumb stuff like drugs. At least half of their work is pointless, as passionately and diligently they try violent criminals for us.

  124. Mitch M.

    Have been watching a few episodes of The Expanse. Not convinced and may give up…

    Initially I enjoyed it but like so many good programs with each new season the plot line becomes so tediously stretched I’d prefer a 5 minute montage than another hour of waiting for something for happen.

  125. Oh come on
    #2764950, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    I’m embarrassed to have initially defended Musk’s crappy sub.

    Come on man. You’re not responsible for his failings.

  126. bundyrum

    Scooby….i was born on St Georges day so i appreciate the compliment….now come get the scooby snack.

  127. JC

    George

    Here’s an insight for you. Once you start spell checking other commenters it’s probably time to give it a rest, you dolt.

  128. Elle

    bundyrum, you’re a dick head!

    Leave JC alone! He adds more to this forum than you ever have.

  129. Eyrie

    So we have any gravity we like with no magic tech required and propulsion got solved ca. 1958 by Freeman Dyson, Ted Taylor and friends. Orion. What are we waiting for?
    Top Ender, The Expanse is a good try but here is one major science flaw. OK cats, for brownie points – what is it?

  130. bundyrum

    Shut up ya stupid bint.

  131. Delta A

    And his heroine likes stromatolites, as I do.

    Excellent display of stromatolites at Hamelin Pool in WA. A very interesting area. Amazing Shell Beach – 70 kms of fragile while shells up to 10 meters thick. And late afternoon, walk over the dunes to watch a spectacular sunset.

    The only downside for me was the flies. Zillions of the sticky little beggars! Our ‘Desert Dwellers’ was the best deterrent. We could have made a fortune selling the stuff to others at the caravan park.

  132. Peter Campion

    First speaker received thunderous applause.

    Next up, Lyle Shelton from AC.

  133. JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2764953, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    bundyrum
    #2764944, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:21 pm
    Head prefect are our soldiers tax eating parasites

    What about Jacquie Lambie? You tell me.

    Let’s be realistic. Some cops and soldiers are great and do excellent work.

    Are people really meant to respect OSR ticket inspectors and RMS speed trap operators in the same way as a homicide detective?

    Am I meant to respect Morrison or Cate McGregor the way I respect the SAS or RAR?

    Now, crown prosecutors…a lot of their work is chasing up dumb stuff like drugs. At least half of their work is pointless, as passionately and diligently they try violent criminals for us.

    Frank,

    When you think about it, it’s mind boggling what’s going on here. You basically have a bunch of people appear like they support general tax eating and parasitical behavior. Incredible.

  134. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

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    You and your Army friends will have access to extensive sports, fitness and leisure facilities on base. Through your work you’ll meet a wide range of people and share some amazing and unique experiences.

    From the new Army recruiting commercial. FMS.

  135. nemkat

    Whatever happened to Ms Dolittle?
    Not that I miss her, or she ever added anything positive to the blog.

  136. Peter Campion

    Lyle was MD of ACL at the time of the fire-bombing attack.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Leave JC alone! He adds more to this forum than you ever have.

    You haven’t been on this blog very long at all, have you?

  138. hzhousewife

    There’s at least 200 people at this forum. Not bad for a Monday night in a regional area.

    Very encouraging for Cairns, good size for networking after as well, good luck for the evening PC.

  139. bundyrum

    Elle, hi JC.

    Dumb bint……about time you went crying to Sinc & have be banned?

  140. JC

    What do you add, Rones? Do a self assessment and tell us.

    You can post it here too. I’m genuinely curious what you believe you add here.

  141. DrBeauGan

    Benford also has a great quote:”Ugliness is nature’s contraceptive.”

  142. Peter Campion

    The fire bomber, Duong, was a gay activist in the US. It was a politically-motivated attempted suicide bombing. Carefully suppressed by the AFP and the leftstream media.

  143. Delta A

    Thanks for the commentary, Peter Campion. Please keep it coming.

  144. JC

    Dumb bint……about time you went crying to Sinc & have be banned?

    George,

    “me” 🙂

  145. Top Ender

    Gurkha ranks open to women who can run 5km lugging 22kg

    ELLA PELLEGRINI

    The Gurkhas, part of the British Army for more than 200 years, are to recruit their first female soldiers.

    A tough selection test, which requires candidates to race up a hill in Nepal while carrying 22kg of sand in a wicker basket, will be open to women next year.

    The first female Gurkhas could arrive in the UK for infantry training in spring 2020. Traditionally a male-dominated society, Nepal elected its first female president, Bidhya Devi Bhandari, in 2015.

    The move comes as the British Army is set to step up its recruitment of Nepalese soldiers in an attempt to plug a shortfall of more than 5500 troops.

    Senior army officers have drawn up plans to boost the 3000-strong Brigade of Gurkhas by a further 800 troops, according to a source.

    Britain first began recruiting Gurkhas in 1815, with the Nepalese soldiers fighting in both world wars and more recently in Iraq and Afghanistan. Prince Harry served with the Royal Gurkha Rifles, the brigade’s infantry regiment, as a forward air controller in Afghanistan during the winter of 2007 -08.

    The regiment’s motto is “Better to die than to live a coward” and its soldiers are renowned for fighting with a knife called the kukri and their “Ayo Gurkhali!” war cry. The army recruits about 250 men from Pokhara, central Nepal, each year.

    Competition is fierce: winning a place in the brigade is regarded as a “golden ticket” because it brings a starting salary, once fully trained, of more than ›18,000 ($32,000), a pension and the right to settle in the UK.

    Veterans won the right to settle in 2009 after a campaign by actor Joanna Lumley.

    Candidates face gruelling fitness tests including the “doko race”, which involves carrying a load of sand up a steep, 5km course. The ascent, up rocky paths lined by crowds of cheering relatives, has to be completed in less than 48 minutes.

    Those selected undergo a 10-week training course in North Yorkshire, which includes infantry skills and lessons about English language and culture.

    At the weekend, army sources said the fitness requirements would not be relaxed for women.

    Around 50 Nepalese women took part in army fitness tests as part of a Ministry of Defence pilot in 2007 but recruitment to the brigade remained closed to them.

    One army source said there was “excitement” in Nepal that women would be able to compete for places.

    Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said: “The Gurkhas are renowned as one of the best fighting forces in the world with a proud history of serving Her Majesty, and it is right that women have the opportunity to serve in this elite group.”

    The extra cost of recruiting and training Gurkhas has meant they have previously been vulnerable to defence cuts.

    THE SUNDAY TIMES

  146. Peter Campion

    Our first (?) wannabe suicide bomber was a gay activist.

    FMD…

  147. Peter Campion

    Now Paris and climate – my special subjects.

    Lyle (and Cory) are spot on.

    Lyle now flogging greenies. Excellent!

  148. bundyrum

    Scooby…i dont see ZK2A insulting every man & his dog (sorry) like you do.

    Woof.

  149. Tom

    Very much appreciate the commentary, Peter Campion.

  150. Rae

    Good to participate in some light entertainment. The last couple of weeks have been especially crap.

  151. Peter Campion

    Lyle just reeled off a list of values Cats and Kittehs would be proud of.

  152. hzhousewife

    The fire bomber, Duong, was a gay activist in the US. It was a politically-motivated attempted suicide bombing. Carefully suppressed by the AFP and the leftstream media.

    The Australian revealed those facts eventually. Most people however would have lost interest and even forgotten the initial event. Which happens in most cases these days, the courts grind so slowly.

  153. Elle

    Thank you, Peter Campion, for keeping us informed.

  154. Peter Campion

    Now Peter Ridd, speaking my favourite language – proper Popperian science.

  155. JC

    bundyrum
    #2764981, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    Scooby…i dont see ZK2A insulting every man & his dog (sorry) like you do.

    George, It’s Ronery, as in Lonely. He does actually. He only insults those he thinks its okay to or joins a pack. So you assertion is totally false.
    Keep that up and he’ll buy you a car though.

    Next.

  156. nemkat

    How’s Boris’s invite to the Perth Cats picnic coming along?
    Perth Cats, anyone know?

  157. mh

    Tony Blair and Lord Mandelson join Tory Brexiteers in attack on Theresa May’s plan

    Former prime minister Tony Blair and his political ally Lord Mandelson have joined Tory Brexiteers in trashing Theresa May’s strategy for leaving the EU.

    The New Labour duo, who were prominent members of the Remain campaign during the EU referendum, have both branded the prime minister’s plan “the worst of both worlds”.

    In an article published via his institute, Mr Blair described Mrs May’s proposals as “just mush” and “an ‘Inbetweener’ half in/half out mess”, as he called on parliament to “reject this solution decisively”.

    “This solution – half in/half out – won’t work, won’t end the argument and will simply mean a confused outcome in which we continue to abide by Europe’s rules whilst losing our say over them,” he wrote….

    https://news.sky.com/story/tony-blair-and-lord-mandelson-join-tory-brexiteers-in-attack-on-theresa-mays-plan-11437925

  158. Peter Campion

    Peter has destroyed the reef alarmists in his first few comments and slides.

    In our chat earlier he said we must pursue the polliemuppets to devote 1 percent of reef research funding to independent peer review. Apparently there are scientists around that will do it properly if they know the govt supports their efforts. (I quoted HL Mencken).

  159. Tom

    Fuck off, Googleory, you poor friendless caricature. Your only achievement in life is running more than one email trolling account simultaneously. Sad.

  160. bundyrum

    Scooby….good to see you take the snack.

    Woof.

  161. Peter Campion

    Short, sweet and brutally honest.

    Now Luke Isaac.

  162. Peter Castieau

    A big thank you to Peter Campion for his live blogging on the forum in far north QLD.

  163. cohenite

    Greg Benford is a bit of a lefty. Goes on about Martian life being cooperative, unlike ours. Also takes AGW seriously.

    He certainly does, but he’s an astrophysicist and I have not met a sane astrologist yet so maybe that part of his expertise has infected him. Still he is also an expert in plasma physics which is tough so he should know better.

  164. JC

    I’ve got to play it back as I missed most of it. Sebastian Gorka was on 7.30 and told the stand-in to act and behave like a journalist instead of trying to play ridiculous games.

    It’s possibly the first time that’s happened on the ABC.

  165. Tom
    #2764995, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:52 pm
    Fuck off, Googleory, you poor friendless caricature. Your only achievement in life is running more than one email trolling account simultaneously. Sad.

    Yep.

    Sad.

    Seems to prop up whenever a conversation is good or an intelligent, in-depth and friendly discussion happens between people that have stoushed in the past.

  166. Peter Campion

    Luke used to write under noms de plume.

    He now uses his own name. Like Custard and I. He lost his leftard friends when he came out as conservative. That happened to me, too. How did you fare, Peter?

  167. Tom

    I’ve got to play it back as I missed most of it. Sebastian Gorka was on 7.30 and told the stand-in to act and behave like a journalist instead of trying to play ridiculous games.

    It’s possibly the first time that’s happened on the ABC.

    If a Cat has the link, that would be much appreciated.

  168. Peter Campion

    Luke has been banned by social media networks, now sees himself as alt-media. Holds hope for millenials who are unconvinced by the legacy media.

  169. bundyrum

    Scooby….you miss most things so don’t worry about it……how are the shares in Sydney Airport going?

    Woof.

  170. JC

    People

    You should watch the Gorka interview on 7.30. You’ve never seen anything like that on theirABC. Gorka is just great.

  171. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2765000, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:54 pm
    Greg Benford is a bit of a lefty. Goes on about Martian life being cooperative, unlike ours. Also takes AGW seriously.

    He certainly does, but he’s an astrophysicist and I have not met a sane astrologist yet so maybe that part of his expertise has infected him. Still he is also an expert in plasma physics which is tough so he should know better.

    His physics is ok, his exobiology not so much. The Martian stuff is OK, but I am reading Sunborn and he’s got us to Pluto and gone bonkers. It’s as if he ran out of ideas and is recycling, as lefties do.

  172. JC

    Tom

    It just happened. But go to the ABC website a little later on after it’s over and you’ll find it there… unless they blank it 🙂

    I rewound it on Foxtel.

    There’s never been such an interview on the program.

  173. Peter Campion

    Speaker whose name I missed making excellent – and funny – points about the mayor of Auckland denying Aukland Council venues to Southern and Molyneux.

  174. zyconoclast

    Premier Doug Ford off to strong start, as battle with Ottawa heats up

    n these opening weeks, Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s team has moved swiftly to implement a populist, socially conservative agenda. You may hate that agenda, but this is a focused, capable government. It is also the ideological antithesis of Justin Trudeau’s Liberals in Ottawa, which is why the animus between the two is deep and personal.

    That animus revealed itself on Friday, when Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen and Ontario’s new Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod clashed over asylum-seekers who have been entering Canada illegally and then, in many cases, moving to Toronto or Ottawa.

    Mr. Hussen accused the Ford government of stigmatizing these new arrivals by calling them queue-jumpers, saying such language is “not Canadian, and it’s very dangerous.”

    Ms. MacLeod fought back, saying she “won’t be bullied” by her federal counterpart. The minister particularly objected to “him calling me un-Canadian, which I take great offence to.”

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a provincial government in such open conflict with the federal government so quickly after taking power. Here is the reason why the two don’t get along:

    You might have noticed two words that never appeared in the PCs’ throne speech on Thursday: “environment” and “Indigenous.” Neither issue holds any interest for this government, which is swiftly reversing the previous Liberal government’s efforts to fight climate change, and which has no minister solely dedicated to Indigenous affairs.

    To understand why this government is so indifferent to environmental and Indigenous issues, you must understand the archetypal Ford Nation voter. That voter is male; almost half of all men but only a third of all women voted Progressive Conservative, according to an exit poll conducted by the research and government relations firm One Persuasion. He is about 55, the age by which people were decidedly more likely to vote Conservative than NDP or Liberal in the last election. He probably doesn’t have a university degree, for voters with higher levels of education were more likely to support the NDP or Liberals than the Conservatives.

    According to the election results, he lives in a suburb. (Yes, the Conservatives took the rural ridings, but they also took most suburban ridings, where two-thirds of Ontarians live.)

    He may well be a new Canadian, for many ridings with large numbers of immigrant voters went Conservative.

    According to other polling data, he doesn’t care about global warming or about recognizing the rights of Indigenous Canadians. He just doesn’t. He does care about the time and cost of his commute to work, how much his hydro has gone up and how much the government is spending on everyone except him.

    He doesn’t like all the sex talk in the curriculum. He wishes schools worried more about facts and less about values. He thinks governments should support the police and not worry so much about racial discrimination.

    Mr. Ford gets this voter. This is his “little guy.” He governs for this voter, which is why getting rid of the CEO and board of Hydro One, slashing the gas tax, dismantling green energy initiatives, cutting government spending, scrapping the new sex-ed curriculum and increasing police powers are top priorities. The farther you are from this voter, the farther you are from the Ford government.

    But here’s the thing: Fighting global warming is a major priority for the Trudeau government, as are promoting the rights of Indigenous Canadian, women and sexual minorities.

    And the same voter who supported Doug Ford in June supported Justin Trudeau in 2015. Many suburban Ontario ridings now have Liberal MPs and Tory MPPs. So who speaks for that voter now?

    We may get an early sense as the border-crossing issue unfolds. Do Ontario voters, especially immigrant voters, see these refugee claimants as economic migrants trying to game the system? Or do they see the Ford government’s impatience toward asylum-seekers as racist, anti-immigrant dog-whistling?

    And when the Trudeau government imposes a carbon tax on Ontario as punishment for the Ford government abandoning the fight against global warming, will Ontario voters see that a federal tax grab, or as a measured response to the environmental vandals at Queen’s Park?

    Given that the provincial election was barely a month ago, the Ford government may have a better sense of the mood of the province today. Tomorrow, who knows?

  175. mh

    I’ve got to play it back as I missed most of it. Sebastian Gorka was on 7.30 and told the stand-in to act and behave like a journalist instead of trying to play ridiculous games.

    It’s possibly the first time that’s happened on the ABC.

    What you are saying is that no Australian on the other side of politics to the ABC has ever successfully stood up to them. Tragic. Fucking tragic.

  176. Oh come on

    Come on man. You’re not responsible for his failings.

    I realise this. It’s still galling to defend someone from what were at the time unfounded media claims that Musk was pulling a cynical publicity stunt, and then witness Musk demonstrate beyond any doubt that he was indeed pulling a cynical publicity stunt AND is a total xunt, to boot.

  177. JC

    What you are saying is that no Australian on the other side of politics to the ABC has ever successfully stood up to them. Tragic. Fucking tragic.

    Yep. That. 100%

  178. P

    You’re not wrong there JC. I was just about to put up a post on it –

    “If anybody can get something positive out of a meeting with Vladimir Putin, it’s Donald Trump, says Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President”

    He really gave it to EF and put her well and truly in her place. WOW!

    Just great.

  179. Steve trickler

    JC
    #2765001, posted on July 16, 2018 at 7:55 pm
    I’ve got to play it back as I missed most of it. Sebastian Gorka was on 7.30 and told the stand-in to act and behave like a journalist instead of trying to play ridiculous games.

    It’s possibly the first time that’s happened on the ABC.

    —-

    He gave Channel 4 UK, a clip around the ears too.



  180. Oh come on

    It’s gotta be Ambien tweeting, though, surely. Musk is nothing if not a skilful self-promoter. This has been a catastrophic lapse that suggests intoxication or some kind of mental impairment.

  181. candy

    Thought he was doing good by at least making a tangible effort to contribute in some way.

    I think he was and was slapped down by the Thais in a most humiliating way. Of course what he said was outright stupid and does not help him.

    I tend to think we need the entrepreneurs and inventors even if the sub was badly designed. You don’t want to squash down people with that kind of spirit and inventiveness, society would not progress.

  182. Top Ender

    Eyrie, I could see quite a few flaws in the first four episodes of The Expanse.

    I hate noise in a vacuum. They did this fairly well – eg; when the narrative POV was inside a spacecraft. Lots of noise from explosions etc. But then sometimes the POV was in space well away and we got noise.

    Also shock from distant space explosions shaking the craft of the survivors.

    And the reverse thrust of some of the spacecraft seems done well sometimes; others not.

    Blowing up things often has the tracks/velocity results wrongly stated.

    And the bloody space marines with their endlessly firing weapons of something that doesn’t seem very effective is annoying – a la Starship Troopers.

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Super Saturday by-elections: Bill Shorten faces blow to authority

    Samantha Hutchinson
    The Australian
    3:48PM July 16, 2018
    Save

    Bill Shorten could face a blow to his authority in the lead up to the Super Saturday by-elections as Victorian powerbrokers push back against a divisive plan designed to ease his move to a safer seat and to placate militant factions in his home state.

    The Opposition Leader is up against the clock to seal a contentious deal by Friday that would see federal preselections referred to national executive.

    A failure to secure support on the deal would leave Mr Shorten battling internal party tensions while fighting five by-elections that are critical to his leadership.

    Under the plan Mr Shorten is backing, the Labor leader would shift from his long-held seat of Maribyrnong to the newly created seat of Fraser in Melbourne’s inner west.

    Victorian upper house MP Daniel Mulino will take Maribyrnong in an elevation to the federal lower house, leaving former Andrews government minister Jane Garrett, who is not contesting her current seat of Brunswick, to slide into Mr Mulino’s upper house seat of Eastern Victoria.

    The deal, which has the approval of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, is billed by proponents as a way to placate the party’s militant Industrial Left faction with a new seat in state parliament, while shoring up support from the Right by elevating a key MP to the federal lower house.

    From the Oz. Fight you bastards, fight – I hate peace!

  184. Oh come on

    Jacob Rees-Mogg is the real McCoy. Very impressive.

    He is. I’m astonished he’s a politician, to be honest, but the Brits are very lucky to have him. Whether they capitalise on their luck is another question.

    Can we have one, please?

  185. Peter Campion

    I got to ask first question in the Q and A. I asked Dr Ridd to repeat his idea to improve policy science (spending 1 percent of research funding on peer review).

    Next two questions are to Lauren re immigration and islam. She didn’t do a set piece with the othet speakers so I expect she’ll get most of the questions.

  186. JC

    Thanks Trickler… He’s great. Yours is a longer version of the ABC’s. TheirABC seems to have plagiarized ch 4s questions. 🙂

  187. Tom

    Putin landed in Helsinki about 20 minutes ago, full of soccer world cup triumphalism, so everything is running behind time. We’re told the Donald will stage another world media conference after the meeting like he did in Chermany. Trump actually gets a fair crack with journalists when they’re not conmmitted to destroying his presidency like the DNC bumboys of the US MSM.

  188. Peter Campion

    Next question also to Lauren. Damn, she’s poised, confident, fluent and coherent. Everything that sjw women are not.

  189. Pickles

    Watched 730 was the whilst eating me tea. Fairly well dropped me chop.

  190. JC

    Trickler

    That ch4 Gorka interview is one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a long long time.

  191. Death Giraffe

    (Smashes bottle of champagne over bow)
    I name this thread the worst on record.
    Goddamn you and everyone who sails on her.

  192. BorisG

    You basically have a bunch of people appear like they support general tax eating and parasitical behavior. Incredible.

    I think taxation is a necessary evil. You have excluded essential services, but this just shifts the discussion to the definition of essential. cabinet, parliament, courts, schools etc. etc etc., building contractors who build building for these institutions, cleaners who clean their offices etc. As a libertarian leaning person I think this has gotten way out of hand but that is a matter of where to draw the line.

    Thus I disagree with the notion that taxation is theft (it is democratic choice) or that all public servants are evil.

    Rick Perry promised to abolish Department of Energy if elected President but agreed to head it under Trump.

  193. cohenite

    Next question also to Lauren. Damn, she’s poised, confident, fluent and coherent. Everything that sjw women are not.

    And young; and gorgeous.

  194. Peter Campion

    Arky, don’t give up, man. I’m listening to Lauren Southern answer another question about islam. She gives me hope for our future.

  195. candy

    Rick Perry promised to abolish Department of Energy if elected President but agreed to head it under Trump

    Funny you should have mentioned him, Boris. I always liked the cut of his jib. He would have been knocked over by Obama, as anyone would at that time, though.

  196. Peter Campion

    The first speaker was Dave Pellow. Any Cats know him?

    George Christiansen has joined the queue to ask a question.

  197. 132andBush

    This has been a catastrophic lapse that suggests intoxication or some kind of mental impairment.

    I suggest it’s a catastrophic ego.

  198. Oh come on

    Rick Perry promised to abolish Department of Energy if elected President but agreed to head it under Trump.

    Well um yeah duh Borry. Don’t you see how this is a powerful statement of intent? Optics.

  199. Steve trickler

    JC
    #2765031, posted on July 16, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Trickler

    That ch4 Gorka interview is one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a long long time.


    He seems to have HIT the press scene once again.

    I stand corrected, but he has been quiet of late.

  200. Tom

    Arky, the Cat is a gentlemen’s fight club, as JC has often explained. The only difference is that it hasn’t banned brawling by chickybabes, who have therefore assumed that anything goes, except for the one thing we would support, jelly wrestling.

    The Cat is our dystopian future, minus the left’s ugly communist dykes.

    That is, a nirvana full of hot non-leftist babes.

    Go to your room, Arky.

  201. Oh come on

    Perry was tapped to head the Dept of Energy *because* he promised to abolish it.

    It’s not rocket science. Trump has made slashing regulatory burdens imposed by exactly this kind of bureaucracy one of hallmarks of his Presidency. Also his willingness to drill baby drill. Perry fits perfectly into this equation.

  202. Tom

    Here’s the interview, Tom.

    Thanks, Gab. I’ve saved it for later.

  203. Peter Campion

    I asked Lauren earlier at what point in her life she realised the public narrative was flawed. She replied it was in Grade 12. She signed up for one of Canada’s first “social justice” courses. She spotted the flaws instantly. Smart girl.

    John Constantine, Lauren shares your views on replacing the voters with imported voteherds.

  204. Delta A

    Tom
    #2765043, posted on July 16, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    Well done, Tom. He had it coming. 🙂

  205. Death Giraffe

    The Cat is our dystopian future, minus the left’s ugly communist dykes.

    ..
    Monty won’t like you leaving him out.

  206. calli

    I draw the line at jelly wrestling.

    It’s undignified.

  207. JC

    BorisG

    Let me say this.

    1. You’re walking down the street and mugged for your wallet. The mugger takes off and gives the money to a bunch hobos. Was the money taken through theft? Of course it is.

    2. Taxation is exactly the same thing only that there is a threat of violence, but it’s the same thing. Taxation is theft and people taking the money are aiding and abetting theft.

    I think taxation is a necessary evil. You have excluded essential services, but this just shifts the discussion to the definition of essential. cabinet, parliament, courts, schools etc. etc etc., building contractors who build building for these institutions, cleaners who clean their offices etc.

    200 layabouts in non-essential services is more than sufficient. Cleaning services can be contracted out on competitive tender. Very limited welfare could also be contracted out to firms like IBM. And I mean, very limited welfare!

    As a libertarian leaning person I think this has gotten way out of hand but that is a matter of where to draw the line.

    You don’t need to draw the line. Just listen to Milt who argued that no more than 10% of your income should go in taxes to pay for essential services.

    Thus I disagree with the notion that taxation is theft (it is democratic choice) or that all public servants are evil.

    There are 152,095 career public thieves and every single one of them is a thief.

    Rick Perry promised to abolish Department of Energy if elected President but agreed to head it under Trump.

    Okay, then he’s a bullshitter.

    Frank once came up with a good proposition. Weaken the federal government to the bare bones and have more states.

  208. Delta A

    I draw the line at jelly wrestling.

    It’s undignified.

    Depends what flavour it is and whether…erm…

    You’re right. It’s undignified.

  209. Peter Campion

    Lauren just spoke extensively on what has been called identitarianism – although she didn’t use that term.

    I will never again make sweeping generalisations about blondes being dumb.

  210. Peter Campion

    George Christiansen has a double-barrelled question about religious liberties and regulations to protect free speech.

  211. Death Giraffe

    Lauren Southern is smoking hot.

  212. BorisG

    Cleaning services can be contracted out on competitive tender.

    They usually are but you will still say that people on government contracts are tax eaters and thieves.

  213. BorisG

    Just listen to Milt who argued that no more than 10% of your income should go in taxes to pay for essential services.

    Possibly true. But this is drawing a line.

  214. Steve trickler

    Repeat post on the F35.

    This plane is getting a “thrashing”. Leaving aside all the issues with costs and the development dramas….. it is a marvel to watch.

    The G-loading on the human body is huge. All of us would be spewing our guts up! To borrow another’s observation, this thing is afterburner drifting

    It got some grunt.



  215. Oh come on

    Sounds like Southern’s throwing out the red meat to the hordes. Same as what Milo did. Don’t get too star-struck, Peter.

    Conservatives are really lame about this kind of thing. Ooh someone famous and/or attractive is saying stuff we agree with.

  216. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pickles
    #2765029, posted on July 16, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    Watched 730 was the whilst eating me tea. Fairly well dropped me chop.

    Just caught up with the link above. Snip, snip. How much do you think ended up on the cutting room floor? Nevertheless, I feel Googles & Milne Inc. will not be best pleased with this disruption to normal transmission.

  217. JC

    They usually are but you will still say that people on government contracts are tax eaters and thieves.

    I don’t quite see cleaning services put out to regular tender is the same thing as a slug in the cummmikations section of some bum ministerial department as the same thing. You do?

    Do you agree though that taxation is theft?

  218. JC

    Whoops

    I don’t quite see cleaning services put out to regular tender is the same thing as a slug in the cummmikations section of some bum ministerial department. You do?

  219. Peter Campion

    That may be true, OCO, but it’s been a long time between steaks and this chef is masterful.

  220. Cactus

    Oh Come on re: Musk.

    I thought you defended Musk and the Thai kids was good and principled. I listened to your view and agreed.

    Then he went after that and acted like a dick. Cant quite beleive it. But there you go.

  221. Rae

    More Zero D chess tonight. Between the Leader of the Free World and a huckster from New York. Even Gorka expects not much, if anything, to come of it. Maybe it will be followed by a presser announcing the lodgement of a DA for Trump Tower Moscow. And Peace in Our Time.

  222. JC

    Boris

    There are now 152,095 of these fucking parasites. The sovereign wealth fund which has ~ $130 billion socked away was set up to deal with these parasitical whackos’ retirement. It’s the most generous system going when it ought to be the most miserly. They are sending us broke. Not only, but their attitude is now one of arrogance. Fire them all and close it down!

  223. Makka

    You’re an imbecile, Grigsy. Stay with the Aldo specials.

  224. Peter Campion

    Loudest applause of the night so far has gone to a question about defunding TheirABC!!

  225. Tom

    I’m so glad the resident wrongologist has told us the exact opposite if what will happen in Helsinki today.

  226. Rae

    Steve. Any sign of Cassie from Sydney tonight?

  227. Peter Campion

    Everyone here seems agreed ABC funding should be reduced by at least 90 per cent.

  228. Slayer of Memes

    The Cat is our dystopian future, minus the left’s ugly communist dykes.

    Monty won’t like you leaving him out.

    I thought mUnty was the dyke that Tom mentioned…?

  229. Peter Campion

    Peter Ridd answering a question on funding for unis. He states clearly that unis won’t tolerate staff that threaten their funding.

  230. Gab

    Everyone here seems agreed ABC funding should be reduced by at least 90 per cent.

    Shut. It. Down
    Fire. Them. All. ™ Rabz

  231. Steve trickler

    Rae
    #2765075, posted on July 16, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    Steve. Any sign of Cassie from Sydney tonight?

    Ask Westie Woman.



  232. Rae

    Steve trickler #2765083, posted on July 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    Rae #2765075, posted on July 16, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    Steve. Any sign of Cassie from Sydney tonight?

    Ask Westie Woman.

    Westie Woman is from Perth AFAIK. Why would she know anything about Cassie from Sydney?

  233. Oh come on

    You are giving it what it wants.

  234. Rae

    I am? I didn’t know that. What is it that I am giving it that it wants?

    And what is “it”?

  235. Death Giraffe

    The Cat is our dystopian future, minus the left’s ugly communist dykes.

  236. Des Deskperson

    Dear JC.

    My position of the APS and the public sector in general has always, I thought, been clear.

    The public sector is inherently biased toward inefficiency because it is underwritten by money coerced from the taxpayer. This means that it and its employees are always tempted to take the soft and easy option, even though it may be more expensive and less efficient. It means a bias toward doing things that don’t need to be done and toward doing things that need to be done, poorly.

    This bias is, I’m afraid, seen at its worse in those public sector functions that you consider ‘essential ‘- defence and security, areas inevitably excused from proper oversight because they are ‘vital’.

    Having said this, there are still plenty – perhaps even a majority – of APS employees – intelligent, professional and objective – who work hard to counter these biases in developing and implement in the policies of the Government of the day. I am for them. Maybe some of them they are wasting their time, but in a corporatist society like Australia, there any number of other people who are at least also arguably leeches in various ways on the so called productive members of the community, whether they realise it and can help or not.

    Anyone employed under an enterprise agreement negotiated by unions and certified by the FWA, for example.

  237. breaking news! the Don & Vlad shake hands

  238. stackja

    Feudin’ and fussin’ and a-fightin,’
    Sometimes it gets to be excitin,’
    Don’t like them ornery neighbors down by the creek,
    We’ll be plumb out of neighbors next week.
    Grandma, poor ol’ grandma,
    Why’d they have to shoot poor grandma.
    She lies ‘neath the clover
    Someone caught her bending over
    Pickin’ up a daisy!
    Feduin’ and fussin’ and a-fightin’
    This is a wrong that needs a rightin,’
    Let’s get that funeral service over
    So then we can start in a-feudin’ again.

  239. hzhousewife

    Hmmmm.
    Putin was very reserved and resistant looking in the presser just now, he left Trump to blather on a bit.

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