Wednesday Forum: July 18, 2018

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  1. Tom

    WA secedes from Oz.
    Bali secedes from Indo.
    They form their own nation.

    BogansInBoardshortsistan.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2768260, posted on July 20, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Whoops I never posted a comment…

    Unintended double negative?

  3. .

    Obesity?

    Di Natale to the rescue.

    https://richard-di-natale.greensmps.org.au/articles/new-sugar-tax-sweetener-your-health

    But I really want to hear David Leyonhjelm ask Sarah Hanson Young about it. I also want him to ask Kim Carr and Marise Payne as well.

  4. candy

    Like, is that for real…..
    I mean let’s not kid ourselves, like I/we need to be told how just how fucking useless, mendacious and predatory Canberra APS is? Really?

    JC
    Well, I still like Johanna and Des for their insights and contributions re APS and near the toppish of the spectrum they seem to be from. As well Johanna did a lot of contributing re the TURC.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    WA secedes from Oz.
    Bali secedes from Indo.
    They form their own nation.

    BogansInBoardshortsistan.

    Bintangistan.

  6. max

    Met up with a pal visiting recently.

    We both have an interest in HK nags with four legs so, later on, Crown Casino seemed to be the spot.

    $20 a stubby of VB !

    What a hole that place is.

  7. H B Bear

    Thanks to the Greens-Lieboral (think about that for a minute) amendments, the Senate is now a one way, lock-step legislative mechanism to the Left. The idea that the assorted rats and mice of the Centre-Right will be able to prevent this is fanciful. Good luck to them trying though.

  8. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2768252, posted on July 20, 2018 at 9:45 am

    National Fascist Federation?

    National Farmers Federation says electricity best place to make emissions cuts

    The NFF are alarmist cucks no doubt but this latest effort is about allocating desk chairs on the Australian economy/Titanic after shit for brains turdball finishes gutting the electricity sector, transport sector and agriculture sector to meet HIS commitment to the paris emissions reduction target. It’s a pity the NFF were not more involved in drought proofing Australia by building dams instead of supporting turdball in wasting $billions on renewables.

  9. Boambee John

    Dot

    You mentioned a couple of days ago that abolishing the ATO would eliminate around 10 percent of the APS.

    While I am sure we would all support getting rid of the ATO, can it be done before tax law is massively simplified? A consolidated tax act covering income, company, excise, GST et al of under 100 pages might make that possible, but not with tax legislation and regulation together thousands of pages long.

    A side benefit would be the elimination of huge numbers of private sector tax accountants and lawyers!

  10. .

    $20 a stubby of VB !

    WT actual F!?

    You’re joking, right?

    That is 11 times the normal retail price, right?

  11. JC

    Candy

    The only insight you need to know about Canberra APS is that firing 95% of those worthless fuckers would improve the country in every way. That’s all there is to know.

  12. EvilElvis

    I used to stop for a drink at my local about five nights a week — until the price went up. The prices are insane. I’d hate to be a publican forced to pay multiples of the going rate in the US for casual staff because of our mad industrial relations system.

    Imagine how it goes in country towns then, Tom. We’ve just had to increase award casual wages by 3.5% and don’t have the luxury of continually bumping up prices to suit. There’s not an endless stream of public servants or corporates in these places, that are economically immune to the struggle that is the real Australia.

    I’ll trim my staff and they’ll keep voting Labor and me with my 10 staff will be continually looked on as a ‘rich’, greedy, business owner. Go, Aussie! FFS.

  13. John Constantine

    The diversity office staff of their NFF all socialise at nice Canberra functions with the revolutionary freedom fighters of the ecofeminist vegan rewilding movement.

    None of them would be seen dead with a cocky in a Trump hat.

    Comrades.

  14. .

    While I am sure we would all support getting rid of the ATO, can it be done before tax law is massively simplified? A consolidated tax act covering income, company, excise, GST et al of under 100 pages might make that possible, but not with tax legislation and regulation together thousands of pages long.

    I think we should look at it in terms of Pareto’s model of efficiency.

    Most of the workers there are probably chasing marginal cases or working on stuff that basically goes to a payment plan. They tried to roast Our Hoges (TM) and they got nowhere.

    Cut back to a minimal staff, integrate it with Treasury and finance and make up the losses by cutting donations to Hamas, the Clintons and welfare for immigrants, as well as the savings in eliminating the department.

    The problem wtih tax law is that no one outside of a Federal Court judge really knows what the law is.

    Look at this nonsense:

    Hart v Commissioner of Taxation [2018] FCAFC 61 at 83.

    Subsequently, in RCI, the Full Court made it abundantly clear that a taxpayer does not discharge its onus for the purposes of s 177C by demonstrating that the Commissioner’s counterfactual is not reasonable.

    That’s the law. So if they can make stuff up, of course they have an ever growing “need” for staff.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    We both have an interest in HK nags with four legs so, later on, Crown Casino seemed to be the spot.

    $20 a stubby of VB !

    Win the quaddie.
    Drink four stubbies.
    Come out behind on the day.
    Nuke us now, Kimmie.
    We deserve it.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    I don’t smoke but Holy Crap! The product, minus the taxes, is probably $10. What an insane time to be alive.

    One of the saddest things about Australia is not just that our political class hate us with a passion, it’s that we hate ourselves and our fellow countrymen. No well adjusted society would allow this punitive crap to take place.

  17. EvilElvis

    You mentioned a couple of days ago that abolishing the ATO would eliminate around 10 percent of the APS.

    A good start would be ending the charade of taxing public servants and any recipient of taxpayer funds. Give them all a net payment. That’s probably drop 20% of the ATO, then just sack the rest. There’s not one public servant who isn’t cheaper on the dole.

  18. cohenite

    Dov Fischer sums up all recent POTUSs:

    The Bushes got us into all kinds of messes. The first one killed the economic miracle that Reagan had fashioned. The second one screwed up the Middle East, where Iraq and Iran beautifully were engaged in killing each other for years, and he got us mired into the middle of the muddle. Clinton was too busy with Monica Lewinsky to protect us from Osama bin Laden when we had him in our sights. Hillary gave us Benghazi and more. And Obama and Kerry gave us the Iran Deal, ISIS run amok, America in retreat. All to the daily praise of a media who now attack Trump every minute of every day.

  19. JC

    Dot

    At the beginning of the year, the AEO’s* commissioner, Jordan was sending out press releases every other day threatening the population. The last one sent out was a threat to take a closer look at laundry expenses. That’s how fucking low this country has got to. Making open threats about laundry claims on tax claims.

    I’m getting to the realization that in some ways, the latter part of the Soviet Union’s existence may have been less oppressive than what we currently live under.

    * Australian Expropriation Office.

  20. max

    Dot, think of the pay rates for staff working through the early hours of the morning.

    Asahi, Stella Artois, VB, Corona stubbies all the same: $20.

  21. EvilElvis

    it’s that we hate ourselves and our fellow countrymen

    Yep. I’ve worked in a few diverse work places and the different ethnicities soon group up and stick together, Indians, poms, Scots, kiwis, the bloody lot. The cuck eastern staters would soon slime in with whichever group they could. Doesn’t leave much room for a born and bred West Aussie who has a poor attitude to foreigners. And dickheads…😁

  22. JC

    EvilElvis
    #2768310, posted on July 20, 2018 at 10:42 am

    You mentioned a couple of days ago that abolishing the ATO would eliminate around 10 percent of the APS.

    That number is understated.

    Number of AEO employees

    20,384
    at June 2016

    Number of APS

    152,095

    It’s 13%.

  23. max

    How many billions would Trump save if he closed an American base in Europe ?

    Remember how he cancelled the exercises with S Korea after meeting rocket boy, saying it would save millions.

    It’s one way of starting on the deficit.

  24. cohenite

    This has already been put up but worth doing again; a site to protest the vicpol charging $68k to Lauren instead of arresting the masked bastards who have made the threats:

    http://www.taxpayers.org.au/fight-vic-polices-extortion-of-lauren-southern?utm_campaign=lauren&utm_medium=email&utm_source=austaxpayers

  25. Leigh Lowe

    max

    #2768321, posted on July 20, 2018 at 10:53 am

    How many billions would Trump save if he closed an American base in Europe ?

    Remember how he cancelled the exercises with S Korea after meeting rocket boy, saying it would save millions.

    He is asking a very simple question.
    If you, Frau Merkel and your EU buddies, who are located a few kilometres from the “front line”, can’t be fucked spending anything on defence, I fail to see why the taxpayer from Bumfuck Kansas should be footing the bill.
    Not an unreasonable question.

  26. .

    IIRC the 2018/19 projections said about 18,000+ ATO and 162,000+ APS.

    The Home Affairs Ministry has 13,000+ staff, whilst the AFP, a child agency has about 6,500.

    What do these %$#@ers in Home Affairs actually do?

    They might be more useless than the Federal Dept. of Education.

  27. JC

    Max

    Other NATO members have been dicks in keeping up their payments. However, wholesale US retreat back to its borders and also not providing safety along trade routes would be a terrible thing for the world.

  28. Dr Faustus

    $20 a stubby of VB !

    Two weeks ago:
    A pint in a fairly smart City of London pub: $3.80 [AUD 6.70].
    A pint in a fairly shitty pub in Nottingham: $2.30 [AUD 4.0].

    It’s a price we pay for not having to live in England…

  29. Des Deskperson

    Here are the APS biggies:

    As of 30 June 2017:

    Human Services had 34,024 employees of all employment categories
    ATO: 20,625
    Defence: 18,390
    Immigration and Border Protection (now Home Affairs): 13799
    Agriculture: 5,232
    Health: 4,727
    Industry, Innovation and Science: 4,326 [???]
    DFAT 3,845 [WTF?]

    these do not include ‘outrider’ agencies, of which Health alone has 14.

  30. Boambee John

    Dot at 1036

    The concept of a law which allows the ATO to make up “counterfactuals” is grotesque.

    Rewrite in simple black letter language, maximum 100 pages for ALL tax law combined, would pretty much eliminate the need for the ATO, but while the current law exists, they will.

  31. As I’ve posted several times dealing with the APS is easy.

    Pass a law that says in any financial year;
    Debt + Deficit = 0% pay rise
    Debt + Surplus / No debt + Deficit = Pay rise capped at CPI
    No debt + Surplus = Pay rise capped at CPI x 1.5

    Exclude frontline military and medical (which is State anyway).
    Et voila…
    Watch as the ABC, Treasury et al. suddenly start finding fat to cut and promoting balanced Budgets and paying off the debt.

    Now all we need is a party with the balls to implement it (i.e. it will never happen).

  32. .

    So basically, it takes each Immigration Dept. employee an average of four weeks to process each permanent immigrant?

    I understand the desire for proper vetting, but this sounds pretty damn cruisy.

  33. JC

    Desk

    Are you throwing that in out face, as a way of laughing at the rest of us for supporting this RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) or now that you have your super and got out of there … are you outside the tent and pissing in?

  34. C.L.

    Don’t send your children to the border, Obama says, sagely – as George Stephanopolopolopolopus nods admiringly.

  35. max

    Defence budgets are like public service budgets.

    Plenty of room for savings.

    Those fighters for the air force, what a long standing scam that was and Trump could see it.

    The whole NATO anti-Russian pact is useless against the main threat to Europe from Islam.

    NATO now is like buying a gun and a fierce dog and thinking you will stop cancer.

  36. Des Deskperson

    ‘What do these %$#@ers in Home Affairs actually do?’

    From what i’ve seen coming through Customs, push around brown and yellow people.

  37. Confused Old Misfit

    I hope the principles of US strategy are first, to display sufficient strength that your enemies are discouraged from fighting you; and second, that if you are forced to fight you fight on ground of your own choosing and that that ground is NOT on your own territory.
    These principles would preclude a withdrawal from Europe I would think.

  38. Tel

    This has already been put up but worth doing again; a site to protest the vicpol charging $68k to Lauren instead of arresting the masked bastards who have made the threats:

    It’s the “instead of” part of the deal that bugs me. If VicPol had a donations page where for every $10k you can buy the arrest and jail of one leftist thug that would seem quite reasonable. People with jobs would then have some convenient service so they don’t get bothered by people without jobs.

    Problem is they take the money, but then don’t bother to arrest any thugs, and that seems like a dud deal to me.

  39. .

    People with jobs would then have some convenient service so they don’t get bothered by people without jobs.

    Um, why do you presume ANTIFA are all NEETS or dole bludgers?

  40. JC

    Most of treasury could be farmed out to accounting firms in a competitive tender. Economic projections could be done in real time through Scott Sumner’s proposal. Promote and create a futures market betting on future Nominal GDP projection. You immediately have nearly all the economic forecasting needed with the added bonus that people making these projections actually have skin in the game.

    The RBA… nearly all the economics department creating useless forecasts with no skin in the game could be dissolved and the monthly meeting setting interest rate policy done away with as policy is simply set to the futures market (nominal GDP). That would be at least 3000 jobs gonsky we don’t need.
    Setting policy this way would be far superior too.

  41. Tel

    Watch as the ABC, Treasury et al. suddenly start finding fat to cut and promoting balanced Budgets and paying off the debt.

    They will get very creative with off-balance-sheet like the NBN.

    Sadly, same happened in the corporate world when the managerialists were put in charge and then given a bonus whenever the figures looked good … they became adept at making the figures look good!

  42. C.L.

    From what i’ve seen coming through Customs, push around brown and yellow people.

    Usually because they’re toting a giant bag of crumbed parrot beaks and a dozen tins of diced poodle.

  43. JC

    They will get very creative with off-balance-sheet like the NBN.

    Ban any off balance sheet bullshit. Make it law that every single fucking cent has to be accounted for in the annual budget. Any lying and they get 30 years. 🙂

  44. stackja

    DT wants a different world. Russia doesn’t seem as expansionist. Red China needs watching.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    This morning’s Channel Nein Pulpit of the Clueless segment on Today featured Leisl Jones and the NSW Sports Minister.
    Subject : “Wymminses in Sport and da Unfairness – Why is there no Wymminses Tour de France“.
    Jones (who has clearly taken on a lot of chlorinated water through the ear canals) went with this …
    (1) It’s proven that wymminses can compete in all sports (evidence is AWFL and Wymminses state of oranges);
    (2) If women can’t compete it’s because the good ones are not taking up sport because no prizemoney. (Yes, darls, there is a female Usain Bolt out there sitting on the couch just waiting for the prize money to increase).
    (3) Apparently the slightly chubby Serena Williams would “smash Jokovic all day every day” if they were matched head-to-head.
    Um, Liesl, darling … Serena got cleaned up 6-3, 6-3 by another sheila Angelique Kerber in the Wimpleton final this year.
    This delusional shit kills me.
    The fastest validated serve by a wymminses is around 130mph.
    The men’s fastest is mid 150’s mph.
    Williams would not make it past the first round of any men’s tournament, much less “smash Jokovic.”
    The ball-kids at Serena’s end would have some serious fetching to do.

  46. stackja

    Budget dreaming again. Why cut expenditure? Only upset voters.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    Some of those on the public payroll really have to work their arse off for their money.

  48. Boambee John

    Tel at 1131

    Sadly, same happened in the corporate world when the managerialists were put in charge and then given a bonus whenever the figures looked good … they became adept at making the figures look good!

    This.

    Whenever there are large buckets of cash, taxpayers’ or businesses’, available for the rorting there will be rorts.

    This was the major weakness with contracting jobseeker services, and will be the major weakness with contracting Centrelink payments or Treasury functions.

    One way to tighten controls would be to remove all delegated powers. If ministers have to approve everything personally, they will only have time to approve important things.

  49. .

    Actually, I have been a bit soft on Treasury.

    There would be some duplication between DPM&C as well as Finance with Treasury.

    Something like a policy analysis market could sort out GDP projections, interest rate and inflation forecasts and so on.

    Real-time betting data would probably work better than quarterly surveys.

  50. stackja

    LL – SW played for about an hour. The men played for about five hours.

  51. JC

    Cutting the cancer in Canberra is a long and hard arsed job, but it can be done if it’s handled properly. Thirty years or so ago, a public service job, in Australia, was looked at in quasi contempt. It was perceived that you worked in a government job if you useless and unable to hold work in the private sector. Pay and benefits were also below the private sector.

    There needs to be a concerted effort to get back to those views and keep at it until the population understands that we have needles in our arms and blood being sucked out by the gallon. The APS needs to be hated by the bulk of the population and then we can get a chainsaw to the parasites.

  52. Habib

    Another politician accused of treating the help poorly, I for one cannot believe such fine people would be contemptuous of their inferiors, their benevolence, self-effacing humility and altruism are well known. And for one so honest, I for one believe her-

    Ms Husar’s post concluded “politicians, I want to be one, you can lie, steal, cheat and use other people’s money to go on holidays – the best job in the world”.

    Such integrity and rectitude is rare in this day and age.

  53. Tom

    Leigh Lowe, I’m so glad you’ve corrected the widespread misspelling of Wimpleton.

    (H/T Tony Leonard, Coodabeen Champions).

  54. .

    stackja
    #2768372, posted on July 20, 2018 at 11:39 am
    Budget dreaming again. Why cut expenditure? Only upset voters.

    Because hard decisions need to be made or my generation is going to be living in Greece 2.0.

    …and no, I’m not exaggerating the issue at all.

    If we let the deficit spending continue at the Federal, State and Local level for a few more years and Trump does not rein in his budget issues, we might see an absolutely awful repeat of the global, 1990 debt-led recession. America has tightening IR rules over the last decade and our labour markets are inflexible once more. If the shit hits the fan, our national debt will spiral out of control at that point.

    I do not want to live in Australia with 150%+ government to debt GDP and cripplingly high real interest rates and anemic purchasing power.

    The government is running out of money and refuses to cut spending. They’re so desperate they’re cracking down on LAUNDRY EXPENSES.

    FFS. Amazed that this needs to be explained to anyone on this forum.

  55. stackja

    MSM like big government. People not getting messages about waste. Someone needs to something.

  56. Leigh Lowe

    stackja

    #2768377, posted on July 20, 2018 at 11:43 am

    LL – SW played for about an hour. The men played for about five hours.

    Exactly.
    If they decided to just play it for laughs, someone like Nadal or Jokovic would run the big blob off her feet after two sets.
    Of course, getting back to cycling, imagine if a wymminses in a team of 8-10 started to drop out the back on a hill climb. It would be the toxic masculinity in her team which let her down, not her lack of stamina.
    And wouldn’t the wymminses heads explode if a team appointed a wymminses as their team “domestique” (the rider who has to fetch the water bottles and muesli bars for the senior riders).

  57. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #2768381, posted on July 20, 2018 at 11:48 am

    Leigh Lowe, I’m so glad you’ve corrected the widespread misspelling of Wimpleton.

    Is there another spelling?

  58. Myrddin Seren #2768277, posted on July 20, 2018 at 10:17 am
    SATP
    Are you seeing an impact on your turnover from all this ?
    Not necessarily gross $s as yet – because rising prices means more absolute money flowing over ( while it lasts ). But in per capita spend or numbers of customers ?
    My thesis – going out for regular eats/drinks will return to being the province of the wealthy and well-connected, as normal people get priced back to their cold, dark dwellings.

    Can be difficult to say, as there’s so many variables, and some parts of the business are patronised by folk whose financial prioritising may not be the wisest. Drinking & gambling go up in hard times.

    A drop in discretionary spending at my place is most noticeable in the fine dining & the accommodation.
    Both are now very price sensitive.

    Another noticeable decline is the Grey Nomads. They’re off to a very late start this year, got going in only the past few weeks. From my interpretation of the drumbeats, a big factor is the price of fuel.
    Grey Nomads are plentiful in number – once the “season” gets underway – but they are very price conscious.
    If Grey Nomads start eating lunch at my place in any number, an immediate review of meal prices & cost of ingredients is conducted.
    They just don’t spend. Having a couple of hundred through during the day isn’t hard to do, if you’re prepared to lose $1 each on them (or even $2).
    I prefer to make $2 from each one – not so easy.

  59. stackja

    Someone upset about debt? Good.

  60. mh

    JC, you need to do some more research on the APS in Canberra

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0zlEFTgk1tg

  61. Ban any off balance sheet bullshit. Make it law that every single fucking cent has to be accounted for in the annual budget. Any lying and they get 30 years.

    Yep, JC beat me to it but that would be part of the law as well.

    I think Aus Cons have a watered down version of my proposal; no pay rises for Senior APS until Budget is balanced but I don’t know if that means they get CPI.

    Watching the fuckers squirm as their salaries get eaten away by inflation would be most enjoyable.
    Just imagine how much they would fear Labor Governments. In the stroke of a pen the APS would turn so far right they’d make anarcho capitalists blush.

  62. JC

    Dot

    The Future Fund is an absolute travesty. Howard basically took out this very specific contingent liability .. super for the parasites.. and essentially confirmed their retirement benefits. The fund needs to be disbanded and put back into to annual budget. If there’s no money for them in retirement so be it. I think this could be sold in voter land.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    The government is running out of money and refuses to cut spending. They’re so desperate they’re cracking down on LAUNDRY EXPENSES.

    Those monied launderers are a real problem.

  64. stackja

    Canberra changed by Gough. New parliament house didn’t help.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    .

    #2768395, posted on July 20, 2018 at 11:57 am

    The cringe is strong!

    That’s a piss-take right?

  66. .

    No, force yourself to watch the whole thing.

  67. calli

    New parliament house didn’t help.

    True.

    It gave them ideas above their station.

  68. stackja

    Government deficit not seen as bad. Unlike household. Why?

  69. .

    I’d be interested to know how off-balance sheet entities are legal.

    Is the idea that any surplus can just be extracted at will to consolidated revenue?

  70. JC

    The Future Fund is a travesty. Howard basically set it up to offer the parasites certainty of their very generous benefits. There’s $160 billion in there and it’s essentially removed from the vagaries of government budgeting. This money has to be brought back into the budget and the parasites told their benefits could be zero if the budget doesn’t reach a surplus.

    This is one sold that I think could be sold to voterland, as it’s unconscionable.

  71. Roger

    The government is running out of money and refuses to cut spending. They’re so desperate they’re cracking down on LAUNDRY EXPENSES.

    It gets worse:

    People who travel for work and buy meals on the road can now be asked not just for receipts but a letter from their employer authorising them to buy said meals and a bank statement to cross check the payment.

    Now, what if you paid cash? Deduction declined.

  72. JC

    mh
    #2768391, posted on July 20, 2018 at 11:54 am

    JC, you need to do some more research on the APS in Canberra

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0zlEFTgk1tg

    It’s fucking shocking, isn’t it. You can bet your last buck, it’s all ANU streaming too. Close the ANU down as it’s the conveyor belt directly to the APS.

  73. stackja

    Coming by-elections are a chance for all.

  74. John Constantine

    Cutting the heating off at parliament house and making the elite political class get around in adult onesies is the only way to show them we are serious.

    Australia, our wishpowered electricity and our Adult Onesies are our Strength.

    Comrades.

  75. C.L.

    New parliament house didn’t help.

    Provided nobody was hurt, an accidentally dropped MOAB leveling Parliament House would be a beautiful, wonderful thing. One of the stupidest, ugliest buildings ever constructed.

  76. stackja

    Plans to change APS will upset MSM.

  77. .

    It’s fucking shocking, isn’t it. You can bet your last buck, it’s all ANU streaming too. Close the ANU down as it’s the conveyor belt directly to the APS.

    I knew a gorgeous woman who did nutrition at a cow college and got a job at Dept. of Finance working on climate change & economic modelling.

    Yep.

    FFS.

    Also yes, many friends at ANU went straight into the APS. They became the old guy at All Bar Nun they used to think was cool, but deep down, he hated himself!

  78. stackja

    Ballot box only way to get change. Do voters care?

  79. mh

    Now that the MSM have compared the Trump Putin press conference to Kristallnacht and Pearl Harbour, how do they escalate when Putin arrives at the White House?

    Seeing Putin at the White House reminds CNN and MSNBC of Josef Mengele in Auschwitz?

  80. thefrolickingmole

    The conveyor of credentialism is at the core of our problems.
    We get people going to uni because its the requirement to become a PS parasite.
    They will cruise from schooling to bludgeing and also know they are “worth it” because they have a degree in fukwitterry form Gero Tafe.

    They have been allowed to hitch their “valuable” degrees to ones doing things in the private sphere, the Red Witch did the same with childcare, where its not the value of the service provided setting wages but the piece of paper which is similar to another one.

  81. Dr Faustus

    If they decided to just play it for laughs, someone like Nadal or Jokovic would run the big blob off her feet after two sets.

    As Connors did to Navratilova in the ‘Battle of Champions‘ – with modified rules that restricted Connors to one regulation serve per point and allowed Navratilova to return into the doubles court.

  82. jupes

    If women can’t compete it’s because the good ones are not taking up sport because no prizemoney.

    Women are paid at a higher rate than men in tennis. They earn the same prizemoney for winning less sets.

    Apparently the slightly chubby Serena Williams would “smash Jokovic all day every day” if they were matched head-to-head.

    Wow. They actually pay people this stupid to make comments on TV.

  83. JC

    This is what gets to fucked if you’re being nominated for a federal court in the US.

    WASHINGTON—A prominent federal appeals court nominee withdrew from consideration on Thursday after a Republican senator voiced concern over what he said were racially insensitive writings by the nominee several years ago, and other GOP lawmakers joined him in opposition.

    He must have written some really bad stuff, right? Well, perhaps no.

    Lawmakers objected to past writings from Mr. Bounds when he was a student at Stanford University. For example, in a 1995 piece for the student-run Stanford Review Mr. Bounds coined the term “race-think,” which he defined as a misplaced emphasis on multiculturalism. He lamented “race-focused” groups on campus and wrote that “the existence of ethnic organizations is no inevitable prerequisite to maintaining a diverse university community—white students, after all, seem to be doing all right without an Aryan Student Union.”

    Oh, but it wasn’t racist, he should have handled things with more sensitivity.

    “They weren’t racist. But there’s some concern that the issue could have been handled with more sensitivity,” said Sen. Roy Blunt (R., Mo.) as he left the Republican lunch.

  84. .

    Geez, a 1 mn USD bet on yourself.

    What an absolute mad lad.

  85. Shy Ted

    Imagine your Gran in a G string bending over to get a take-away six pack and you’re getting the idea.
    Sorry, can’t imagine it. Please send photos.

  86. Habib

    Nobody hurt? WTF is wrong with you? Send in 2RAR to mop up afterwards.

  87. Leigh Lowe

    I like the idea of pegged APS salaries pending budget controls.
    And, for those approaching retirement in a BD Super scheme that would be yuuuge.
    Say you are 50 looking at 5 more years of tidy little 3.5% rises levering into your super, then suddenly it is zero. The impact on super over 20-30 years would be massive.
    But, awake from your dreams, Cats.
    Imagine a case being brought against the Minister/Treasurer to be heard before a (fully indexed pension) judge and prosecuted by a (fully indexed pension) Crown Solicitor with all the case materials provided by the underlings in the Solicitor General’s department (who are all looking forward to their fully indexed pension).

  88. Leigh Lowe

    BD = DB = Defined Benefit

  89. JC

    Leigh

    The judgement would be immunized anyway, as he’s part of essential services.

  90. Mater

    Is anyone else going to the Lauren Southern event tonight? If so, have you yet received firm details of the location?
    I’ve only received a mish mash of confusing messages.

  91. .

    Imagine a case being brought against the Minister/Treasurer to be heard before a (fully indexed pension) judge and prosecuted by a (fully indexed pension) Crown Solicitor with all the case materials provided by the underlings in the Solicitor General’s department (who are all looking forward to their fully indexed pension).

    They’ve shot themselves in the foot though. Compulsory retirement savings in Australia are classified as tax.

    See Roy Morgan Pty Ltd v Commissioner of Taxation 2011 HCA 35

    How would they claim a proprietary interest or legitimate expectation to said monies unless they argue for the repeal of the common law that forms part of the tax hydra?

  92. Snoopy

    If Grey Nomads start eating lunch at my place in any number, an immediate review of meal prices & cost of ingredients is conducted.
    They just don’t spend. Having a couple of hundred through during the day isn’t hard to do, if you’re prepared to lose $1 each on them (or even $2).

    It’s pretty difficult to compete on price with a bowl Maggi noodles.

    Grey nomads are the meanest people on Earth.

  93. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh

    The judgement would be immunized anyway, as he’s part of essential services.

    Yeah, yeah … but thin edge of the wedge.
    Judges are very gun-shy of anything which is closer than five degrees of separation from their honey-pot.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Grey nomads are the meanest people on Earth.

    It’s OK.
    When IT is President-for-Life of Bintangistan, none of them will make it home.
    He hates boomers and he will incinerate them in their camper-vans.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    BTW, Mater, good point the other day about immigrants of yore as against today’s batch.
    A couple of years ago, when I started talking about economic immigrants vs real refugees, a NY matron on holidays started asking me how my forebears came here, and why they came.
    I said most were escaping poverty in UK/Ireland/Europe.
    This was her touché moment.
    Her : “So your ancestors were just like immigrant today?”
    Me : “No. They didn’t expect state sponsored housing, health, education and cradle to grave income. They just wanted opportunity.”

  96. Habib

    Those slow moving, randomly weaving death-traps would present excellent training opportunities for range-finding, and in particular the gimbal-mounted main gun in an M1A1. If it can light up a caravan convoy full of fetid fossils with willy pete, a fleet of VBIEDs would present little challenge.

  97. feelthebern

    What a sneaky way to get Hillary’s crew off the hook.
    Offer them immunity for unrelated, useless information.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-offers-tony-podesta-immunity-to-testify-against-paul-manafort-report

    Mueller: I would have love to prosecute them, but unfortunately, they’d already been given immunity.

  98. Mater

    Thanks Leigh.
    That argument shits me.

  99. zyconoclast

    How The Campaign To Ban Plastic Straws Got Its Start

    Starbucks, Ikea, Alaska Airlines, the city of Vancouver, Scotland – they’re all banning plastic straws citing environmental concerns. It’s starting to feel like a global movement. So why did this environmental campaign take off the way it did, and will it stick? Here’s Stacey Vanek Smith of NPR’s daily business podcast The Indicator.

    STACEY VANEK SMITH, BYLINE: Plastic is a huge problem in our oceans. But straws are a relatively minor part of that problem. They represent just a tiny fraction of our total plastic waste. Dune Ives is the executive director of Lonely Whale, the environmental group that spearheaded the straw war in the United States last year.

    DUNE IVES: When we looked at the plastic straw itself, we realized it’s the one thing that connects us every single day to the plastic crisis. So that’s where as an organization we landed on the straw.

    VANEK SMITH: Lonely Whale was struggling with this thing environmental groups often struggle with – the scope of the problem is enormous. Plastic is in everything. And getting people to act can be really hard because the whole thing kind of seems hopeless. But the straw had a few things going for it. First, straws are everywhere. We use millions of them every day. Second, people tend to use straws in public, so giving them up is like a public statement. And third, we don’t really need them.

    IVES: It’s the one thing where there’s an easy-to-implement solution. So let’s start with the straw as a gateway plastic.

  100. Rossini

    Nothing like sucking on a straw to get the last drop out of a Ronald thick shake!

  101. JC

    I hate doing this and do so rarely. Here’s Kimberley Strassel in the WSJ writing a damning piece on that turd, John Brennan. It’s really good.

    The Trump-Russia sleuthers have been back in the news, again giving Americans cause to doubt their claims of nonpartisanship. Last week it was Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Peter Strzok testifying to Congress that he harbored no bias against a president he still describes as “horrible” and “disgusting.” This week it was former FBI Director Jim Comey tweet-lecturing Americans on their duty to vote Democratic in November.

    But the man who deserves a belated bit of scrutiny is former Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan. He’s accused President Trump of “venality, moral turpitude and political corruption,” and berated GOP investigations of the FBI. This week he claimed on Twitter that Mr. Trump’s press conference in Helsinki was “nothing short of treasonous.” This is rough stuff, even for an Obama partisan.

    That’s what Mr. Brennan is—a partisan—and it is why his role in the 2016 scandal is in some ways more concerning than the FBI’s. Mr. Comey stands accused of flouting the rules, breaking the chain of command, abusing investigatory powers. Yet it seems far likelier that the FBI’s Trump investigation was a function of arrogance and overconfidence than some partisan plot. No such case can be made for Mr. Brennan. Before his nomination as CIA director, he served as a close Obama adviser. And the record shows he went on to use his position—as head of the most powerful spy agency in the world—to assist Hillary Clinton’s campaign (and keep his job).

    Mr. Brennan has taken credit for launching the Trump investigation. At a House Intelligence Committee hearing in May 2017, he explained that he became “aware of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons.” The CIA can’t investigate U.S. citizens, but he made sure that “every information and bit of intelligence” was “shared with the bureau,” meaning the FBI. This information, he said, “served as the basis for the FBI investigation.” My sources suggest Mr. Brennan was overstating his initial role, but either way, by his own testimony, he as an Obama-Clinton partisan was pushing information to the FBI and pressuring it to act.

    More notable, Mr. Brennan then took the lead on shaping the narrative that Russia was interfering in the election specifically to help Mr. Trump—which quickly evolved into the Trump-collusion narrative. Team Clinton was eager to make the claim, especially in light of the Democratic National Committee server hack. Numerous reports show Mr. Brennan aggressively pushing the same line internally. Their problem was that as of July 2016 even then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper didn’t buy it. He publicly refused to say who was responsible for the hack, or ascribe motivation. Mr. Brennan also couldn’t get the FBI to sign on to the view; the bureau continued to believe Russian cyberattacks were aimed at disrupting the U.S. political system generally, not aiding Mr. Trump.

    The CIA director couldn’t himself go public with his Clinton spin—he lacked the support of the intelligence community and had to be careful not to be seen interfering in U.S. politics. So what to do? He called Harry Reid. In a late August briefing, he told the Senate minority leader that Russia was trying to help Mr. Trump win the election, and that Trump advisers might be colluding with Russia. (Two years later, no public evidence has emerged to support such a claim.)

    But the truth was irrelevant. On cue, within a few days of the briefing, Mr. Reid wrote a letter to Mr. Comey, which of course immediately became public. “The evidence of a direct connection between the Russian government and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign continues to mount,” wrote Mr. Reid, going on to float Team Clinton’s Russians-are-helping-Trump theory. Mr. Reid publicly divulged at least one of the allegations contained in the infamous Steele dossier, insisting that the FBI use “every resource available to investigate this matter.”

    The Reid letter marked the first official blast of the Brennan-Clinton collusion narrative into the open. Clinton opposition-research firm Fusion GPS followed up by briefing its media allies about the dossier it had dropped off at the FBI. On Sept. 23, Yahoo News’s Michael Isikoff ran the headline: “U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin.” Voilà. Not only was the collusion narrative out there, but so was evidence that the FBI was investigating.

    In their recent book “Russian Roulette,” Mr. Isikoff and David Corn say even Mr. Reid believed Mr. Brennan had an “ulterior motive” with the briefing, and “concluded the CIA chief believed the public needed to know about the Russia operation, including the information about the possible links to the Trump campaign.” (Brennan allies have denied his aim was to leak damaging information.)

    Clinton supporters have a plausible case that Mr. Comey’s late-October announcement that the FBI had reopened its investigation into the candidate affected the election. But Trump supporters have a claim that the public outing of the collusion narrative and FBI investigation took a toll on their candidate. Politics was at the center of that outing, and Mr. Brennan was a ringmaster. Remember that when reading his next “treason” tweet.

    One thing though. I think she gives the FBI too much of a pass.

  102. jupes

    What a sneaky way to get Hillary’s crew off the hook.
    Offer them immunity for unrelated, useless information.

    So Mueller offers immunity to the brother of Hillary’s campaign manager to testify against Trump’s campaign manager.

    Yep, definitely no bias to see here. Move along.

  103. .

    Pretty funny.

    Karen Straughn actually writes articles at the Good Cuck Project.

    It would be really funny if she published The Manipulated Man on that site!

  104. C.L.

    What a sneaky way to get Hillary’s crew off the hook.
    Offer them immunity for unrelated, useless information.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-offers-tony-podesta-immunity-to-testify-against-paul-manafort-report

    Mueller: I would have love to prosecute them, but unfortunately, they’d already been given immunity.

    Well spotted.

  105. calli

    Grey nomads are the meanest people on Earth.

    Sadly, this is true. I understand the “limited means” ones, trying to milk their remaining dollars for all they’re worth.

    It’s the ones on good money who whinge about tipping, disappear when it’s their shout, argue about fixed prices and the like that are truly cringe-worthy – we have had a few in o/s tour groups recently. Fortunately the next trip is a private “roady”, so no close encounters of the parsimonious kind.

    But we are swinging by Devil’s Tower and Roswell. 👾

  106. feelthebern

    Last week Joe Rogan summarised the real biggest issues facing western democracies (it goes without saying that freedom of speech is the biggest issue of all).

    1) Selective prosecution by the State.
    2) Deliberate misrepresentation of facts by the media.
    3) Deliberate omission of reporting by the media.

    Great summary, as the above paves the way to serfdom.

  107. feelthebern

    parsimonious

    Oh I love that word.
    Well done calli for using at the Cat today.
    You win page 7 of the open forum.

  108. C.L.

    Male staffer ‘made to do dishes’

    Emma Husar is reportedly accused of telling a male staffer to do her dishes so he could learn about “white male privilege”.

    If the bloke had any self-respect (which obviously he doesn’t, working for a female Labor MP), he would have wet the tip of the tea towel and kangaroo-tailed her arse.

  109. thefrolickingmole

    Emma Husar is reportedly accused of telling a male staffer to do her dishes so he could learn about “white male privilege”.

    “Social justice” means punishing the innocent individual today to extirpate the guilt of unrelated groups of people in the past.

    You probably have to be severely educated to understand the logic behind it.

  110. Habib

    Or turn the Noritaki into frisbees. As to picking up the dogshit, there’s all manner of inventive places for its disposal. A Vegemite container is a good start.

  111. C.L.

    Mrs Husar plays the Single Mum card:

    “I am a single mum with three children, working hard and doing my best. If I have let anyone down, I apologise.”

  112. zyconoclast

    This university is removing a statue of its slave-owning founder

    A prominent statue of one of the school’s slave-owning founders will be relocated from the school’s front gates, FSU President John Thrasher announced Tuesday.

    In addition to the statue’s relocation, Thrasher approved seeking the removal of a pro-segregation Florida Supreme Court justice’s name from the campus’ law school building. However, Thrasher did not accept a third recommendation to change the name of a different campus building that bears the same name as the statue.

  113. zyconoclast

    J3wish nation state: Israel approves controversial bill

    What does the law say?

    Called The Basic Law: Israel as the Nation State of the J3wish People, the legislation essentially defines Israel first and foremost as a J3wish state.

    Among its 11 provisions, it describes Israel as “the national home of the J3wish people” and says the right to exercise national self-determination there is “unique to the J3wish people”.

    It also reiterates the status of Jerusalem under Israeli law, which defines the city – part of which is claimed by the Palestinians as the capital of a future state – as the “complete and united… capital of Israel”.

    Controversially, the law singles out H3brew as the “state’s language”, effectively prioritising it above Arabic which has for decades been recognised as an official language alongside H3brew.

    It ascribes Arabic “special status” and says its standing before the law came into effect will not be harmed.

    In one of its clauses, the law stresses the importance of “development of J3wish settlement as a national value”, though it is unclear whether this also alludes to settlement in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

  114. Habib

    Mzzzz Husar shows symptoms of being an embittered divorcee’. I’d bet in between bossing the beta male around she’d be grabbing what passes for a penis on such creatures. Lizzie Borden could get elected in safe shitholes like her thiefdom.

  115. C.L.

    Greg Hunt clutches the already squashed remnants of his pearls …
    Calls for investigation of online women’s exercise “influencers” after revelations that – EEK! – some of them like to … drink – which is totally, like, legal and stuff:

    Several of the influencers working with the campaign have also used their accounts to work with alcohol brands.

    Stevie Alger, who shared a number of #girlsmakeyourmove posts, also works with brands including tanning oil and an Australian sparkling wine company.

    Another young woman involved with the campaign, Jess Hopson, regularly posts photos endorsing drinking.

    Mr Hunt today called for an “immediate review of the use of these influencers”.

    A spokesperson for Mr Hunt said the Minister “did not endorse” the Girls Make Your Move Instagram posts and “found them offensive”.

  116. P

    Limbaugh: ‘You heard him, President Obama is responsible’

    “If the losers think they were cheated, then you have an ongoing complaint about the electoral system and its integrity, and that’s exactly what’s happening here. The Democrat Party is personally doing more to attack the integrity and honor of our elections than anything Vladimir Putin could have dreamed of while riding around shirtless on one of his horses on the way to one of the oligarchs’ yachts for a Fourth of July fireworks celebration. And that’s just the way it is.”

  117. Habib

    The FFFM ran the “brave single mum” line first up this morning as well, she must be a real piece of work if they’re trotting that out at the outset. I’m tipping a Lefty Leb Lambie. A halal bunny boiler. And she knows the rub and tugs that Albanese has a tab at.

  118. calli

    They’ll have to re-name Washington soon.

  119. .

    Mr Hunt today called for an “immediate review of the use of these influencers”.

    Shut up. Fuck off. I don’t care, Greg.

  120. zyconoclast

    Frokm 23 March
    Statement from the Press Secretary Regarding Service by Transgender Individuals in the Military

    Today, the President rescinded his previous memorandum on transgender service in the military in order to allow Secretary Mattis to implement a new policy developed through extensive study by senior uniformed and civilian leaders, including combat veterans. The experts’ study sets forth a policy to enhance our military’s readiness, lethality, and effectiveness. On the advice of these experts, the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Homeland Security have concluded that the accession or retention of individuals with a history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria—those who may require substantial medical treatment, including through medical drugs or surgery—presents considerable risk to military effectiveness and lethality. This new policy will enable the military to apply well-established mental and physical health standards—including those regarding the use of medical drugs—equally to all individuals who want to join and fight for the best military force the world has ever seen. The Secretary of Defense’s memorandum and accompanying report have been made public today.

  121. C.L.

    Albanese also pulled a Working Mum card for Husar today.

  122. calli

    Mr Hunt today called for an “immediate review of the use of these influencers”.

    A spokesperson for Mr Hunt said the Minister “did not endorse” the Girls Make Your Move Instagram posts and “found them offensive”.

    He doesn’t need to waste our money “reviewing” them. Just stop wasting our money bankrolling them.

    It isn’t that difficult.

  123. Makka

    Mr Hunt today called for an “immediate review of the use of these influencers”.

    Yet more evidence that these parasites have nothing to do they are so numerous, so go out scouring the social universe for more work by sticking their fkg nose into adult’s business.

  124. zyconoclast

    Greg Berlanti and Caroline Dries are developing the drama ahead of the lesbian character’s debut in the network’s DC crossover event in December.
    The CW is looking to expand its DC Comics world.

    The network is teaming with DC’s small-screen universe mastermind Greg Berlanti to develop Batwoman* as a TV series. The character of Batwoman will officially be introduced in December as part of The CW’s annual DC series crossover event.

    Batwoman revolves around Kate Kane, who, armed with a passion for social justice and flair for speaking her mind, soars onto the streets of Gotham as Batwoman, an out lesbian and highly trained street fighter primed to snuff out the failing city’s criminal resurgence. But don’t call her a hero yet — in a city desperate for a savior, Kate must overcome her own demons before embracing the call to be Gotham’s symbol of hope.

    *Batwoman is not the same character as Batgirl

  125. C.L.

    Batwoman revolves around Kate Kane, who, armed with a passion for social justice and flair for speaking her mind, soars onto the streets of Gotham as Batwoman, an out lesbian and highly trained street fighter primed to snuff out the failing city’s criminal resurgence

    Sounds like Christine Nixon – except she was only primed to snuff out hamburgers, not criminals.

  126. zyconoclast

    ‘Boy or girl?’ Parents raising ‘theybies’ let kids decide
    One way of shielding children from gender stereotypes: Keep their biological sex secret.

    CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Three-year-old twins Zyler and Kadyn Sharpe scurried around the boys and girls clothing racks of a narrow consignment store filled with toys. Zyler, wearing rainbow leggings, scrutinized a pair of hot-pink-and-purple sneakers. Kadyn, in a T-Rex shirt, fixated on a musical cube that flashed colorful lights. At a glance, the only discernible difference between these fraternal twins is their hair — Zyler’s is brown and Kadyn’s is blond.

    Is Zyler a boy or a girl? How about Kadyn? That’s a question their parents, Nate and Julia Sharpe, say only the twins can decide. The Cambridge, Mass., couple represent a small group of parents raising “theybies” — children being brought up without gender designation from birth. A Facebook community for these parents currently claims about 220 members across the U.S.

    “A theyby is, I think, different things to different people,” Nate Sharpe told NBC News. “For us, it means raising our kids with gender-neutral pronouns — so, ‘they,’ ‘them,’ ‘their,’ rather than assigning ‘he,’ ‘she,’ ‘him,’ ‘her’ from birth based on their anatomy.”

    RTWT

  127. Habib

    Greg Hunt is at least a remarkable gymnast. Imagine the difficulty in sitting down to piss in your own face?

  128. .

    Habib is the new Grand Champion. LOL!

  129. What a sneaky way to get Hillary’s crew off the hook.
    Offer them immunity for unrelated, useless information.

    Worked for Ollie North.

  130. cohenite

    The impressive Shannon Bream interviews the equally impressive Mike Pompeo.

    At least one of Trump’s appointments is working out.

  131. zyconoclast

    Greg Hunt is at least a remarkable gymnast. Imagine the difficulty in sitting down to piss in your own face?

    Agile, and disruptive!

  132. Des Deskperson

    “Provided nobody was hurt, an accidentally dropped MOAB leveling Parliament House would be a beautiful, wonderful thing. One of the stupidest, ugliest buildings ever constructed.’

    CL, you will be pleased to learn that, by all reports, the building is currently in a poor state, the result of decades of neglected and inadequate preventative maintenance.

    The place was in any case pretty shoddy to begin with. Even in the early days, there was plenty of evidence, particularly outside the areas open to the public, of lazy and incompetent workmanship.

  133. But the straw had a few things going for it. First, straws are everywhere. We use millions of them every day. Second, people tend to use straws in public, so giving them up is like a public statement. And third, we don’t really need them.

    Says who? Who the fuck is “we” and who appointed you to speak for “we”?

    There are plenty of people who need straws. Parents with kids for one, they’re pretty good for ensuring they don’t spill their drink all over the place. I bet the U.S will see a spike in lawsuits from people falling from spilt drinks in Maccas. Oh and the disabled, those in hospital and vets who’ve had their arms blown off.

    The left are such selfish totalitarian jumped up pricks.

  134. .

    Practical solutions (not virtue signalling) for plastic would perhaps be the use of paper and cardboard packaging, old school single use (thick) paper or wax coated straws and research into sugar or protein-based biodegradable plastics.

    These basically are not discussed at all.

    It is all about virtue signalling instead.

  135. Makka

    AUD looking quite sick again.

  136. .

    I am under the impression that rising energy costs is a reason to use plastic over glass and aluminium as well, in addition to the weight/freight advantages of lighter plastic packaging.

  137. Senile Old Guy

    Is Zyler a boy or a girl? How about Kadyn? That’s a question their parents, Nate and Julia Sharpe, say only the twins can decide. … “A theyby is, I think, different things to different people,” Nate Sharpe told NBC News. “For us, it means raising our kids with gender-neutral pronouns — so, ‘they,’ ‘them,’ ‘their,’ rather than assigning ‘he,’ ‘she,’ ‘him,’ ‘her’ from birth based on their anatomy.”

    In other words, the kids are male or female but their parents are going to pretend that they are not.

  138. feelthebern

    This just in:
    Clover Moore announces Straw Force.
    Platoons of them will swarm the CBD at lunch & dinner time to ensure no straws are being used.
    Straw Force will cost $25mill & will be funded by special Straw Force levy on CBD businesses.

  139. Habib

    Straw Force should meet Straw Dogs.

  140. Habib

    Straw bury fields forever.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    Zyler and Kadyn

    These are Goddamn made up names.
    This is absolute Frank Zappa Tier degeneracy.

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    The network is teaming with DC’s small-screen universe mastermind Greg Berlanti to develop Batwoman* as a TV series.

    By the looks of the new Titans trailer this is going to flop harder than Hillary under a strobe light.

  143. Snoopy

    Why can’t we generate electricity from plastic fuelled power stations?

  144. Practical solutions (not virtue signalling) …

    dot, First tell me the problem.

    I contend that supermarket bags and straws are not a problem.

  145. It is all about virtue signalling instead.

    It’s not just virtue signalling. They get off more on the power trip. That they have forced their shitty ideas on the country / world, that’s what they really get off on. SSM wasn’t about “gay rights” (totally made up concept) it was about lording it over Christians and wallowing in the power to destroy a millenia old institution. Likewise abortion in Ireland, likewise anytime you see the sad, ugly, spiteful losers hugging and kissing and cheering some stupid law or bill being passed that erodes freedoms and/or implements more fascism.

    And the more we let them do it the more they will keep on ruining everything. In a decade we will be eating out of our hands with our assigned wooden spork that we can only wash once a week (to save water).

    We should asphyxiate these twats now whilst we still have some plastic bags left.

  146. Calli:

    It’s the ones on good money who whinge about tipping, disappear when it’s their shout, argue about fixed prices and the like that are truly cringe-worthy – we have had a few in o/s tour groups recently. Fortunately the next trip is a private “roady”, so no close encounters of the parsimonious kind.

    A lady friend does some casual work cleaning at a caravan park. Caravanners constantly complaining about ‘no toilet paper’.
    I kid you not, some bring a battery powered drill or screwdriver into the ablutions blocks and wind off a roll of dunny paper. A date roll costs about a dollar. And their van and towing vehicle costs in the vicinity of half a million dollars.

  147. Habib

    Seeing as many are superannuated public servants and thus have been thieves and parasites their entire lives, why should they change when retired?

  148. AT my local colesworth, they have given up and handing out their new polka dot plastic bags for free.

    They trialed it on one checkout, with a sign that said complimentary plastic bags. The length of the queue at that checkout was awesome.

  149. .

    Snoopy

    Usually, the excuse given is dioxins, but the technology exists already to burn trash and break it down to the elemental level for resale; with a net power output.

  150. calli

    First tell me the problem.

    Gargantuan amounts of plastic waste from the third/developing world where no one has any desire to bend over and pick up their crap and put it in the bin, or collect it from the non-existent bins and shove it into landfill.

    When the rivers are used as waste dumps, the plastic finds its way to the ocean.

    Importation of third world attitudes to litter is also a problem. Ever had to use a park after certain groups have had a picnic?

    Plastic is a boon to mankind. Banning it is stupid. People need to re-think what they’re doing with plastics, particularly when it comes to overpackaging and disposal. So much of it can be re-used.

  151. Mark from Melbourne

    This is an actual Planned Parenthood ad!

    Ye Gods.

    NSFW

  152. calli

    A lot of the overpackaging problem is caused because “food security” because of a few cases of food tampering. And don’t get me started on those hideous shrink wrapped goods that defy my strongest pair of scissors. Children’s toys and electronics are among the worst offenders.

    /rant

    I feel so much better now.

  153. JC

    Desk Desperson

    Here’s a pretty decent piece in Quillette discussing TOXIC FEMININITY that perhaps may help you reconsider that appalling opinion you offered the other. No need to thank me. It would most worthwhile for you to have read the bile directed to Rabzinator, but you chose not because it would have neutered your attempt at deception.

    https://quillette.com/2018/07/09/on-toxic-femininity/

    Enjoy and contemplate.

  154. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume up.

    Soana (1976) – Gian Piero Reverberi

  155. .

    What about my suggestions Calli?

    1. Use paper more. Even hydrophilic hard paper with food grade coatings if needed.
    2. Develop biodegradable bioplastics.
    3. Uptake of the pyrolytic waste & precious material recovery systems made by firms such as Plasco.
    4. Reprocess plastics back into petroleum, as biofuels and catalytically.

    We should refuse to take a hit in our living standards.

  156. Senile Old Guy

    A lot of the overpackaging problem is caused because “food security” because of a few cases of food tampering.

    This was a bigger problem in the US than here but it was an issue.

    And don’t get me started on those hideous shrink wrapped goods that defy my strongest pair of scissors. Children’s toys and electronics are among the worst offenders.

    You had to go there! This drives my blood pressure through the roof! There seems to some sort of competition to make things as hard to open as possible.

  157. calli

    Oh, and a hundred screws in a plastic box, shrinkwrapped into a packet when all you need is three.

    😄

  158. Some History

    I think I’ve been youtubed.

    Try again.

    Soana (1976) – Gian Piero Reverberi

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18W5Z_RosYY&list=RDyBO6LKmE-7E&index=2

    a

  159. Some History

    Yep, that works.

  160. jupes

    The FFFM ran the “brave single mum” line first up this morning as well,

    Being a single parent isn’t that hard, especially for a parliamentarian where everyone would bend over backwards to cut slack to the single mother. Even Sarah Hanson Young can do it.

    I was a single dad. It was pretty easy really, mainly due to the fact that I subcontracted my son’s care to boarding schools for most of the year. No government childcare assistance or tax breaks for that mind you. Sure it expensive but it was far better to pay for the school than give a lesser amount to my ex-wife.

  161. Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

  162. H B Bear

    Mr Hunt today called for an “immediate review of the use of these influencers”.

    Greg Hunt has a bikini Instagram? That doesn’t surprise me. I bet Chrissy Payne does too.

  163. calli

    I buy very few packaged groceries and the ones I do buy are mostly in tins or glass. I do most of the cooking from scratch.

    The supermarkets are the worst offenders when it comes to over-use of plastic. I get the packaging of meat as it’s a hygiene issue, but plastic bagging leeks? Or washed spuds?

    Paper is ideal, so are any number of bio-degradable fibres. I don’t know enough about plastics recycling to make a worthwhile comment on it.

    Except that the 1kg perforated ricotta bases make perfect hanging baskets/pots for cymbidiums and dendrobiums. It’s all about drainage. 🙃

  164. Entropy

    calli
    #2768547, posted on July 20, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    Oh, and a hundred screws in a plastic box, shrinkwrapped into a packet when all you need is three.

    😄

    Yeah!
    Btw notice I am at complete entropy now?

  165. Mater

    Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

    If Australians are so nonchalant about her ‘drongo’ presence, why the $68,000 bill?
    Can we safely assume there’ll be no issues tonight?

  166. feelthebern

    This is how you do interviews with idiots on a Melbourne street.

  167. calli

    Yes, you’re obeying the Second Law now.

    When you decreased, I started to panic!

  168. JC

    m0nty
    #2768551, posted on July 20, 2018 at 2:52 pm

    Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

    If only that were true. The street gotcha thing was really pretty stupid and showed her to be a bit of an attention whore, but it doesn’t take away the fact your buddies are trying to close down the event and the ALP aligned cops are doing their best to shut it down. That’s why it is important for her to speak. Go eat a donut.

  169. JC

    If Australians are so nonchalant about her ‘drongo’ presence, why the $68,000 bill?
    Can we safely assume there’ll be no issues tonight?

    ‘sactly.

  170. Snoopy

    Buzzfeed reported Ms Husar, a member of NSW Labor’s powerful right faction, had had more than 20 employees through her office for four full time-equivalent positions during her two years in Federal Parliament.

    It reported the allegations included that Ms Husar had verbally abused staff and had inappropriate expectations including that they babysit her children outside work hours and walk her dog.

    Ms Husar currently had a staff member living with her who carried out household and nannying duties, it reported.

    I think the correct term for such a staff member is ‘housemaid’.

    Modern Labor. A chicken in every pot and housemaids for all comrade wymynses.

  171. Rafe Champion

    Liberty Quote

    The most dreadful butchers were the most sincere. They believed in the perfect society reached through the guillotine and the firing squad. Nobody questioned their right to murder since they were murdering for an altruistic purpose.

    — Ayn Rand

  172. feelthebern

    More quality street interviews.

  173. cohenite

    Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

    Are you proud to be Australian little man?

  174. Calli:

    A lot of the overpackaging problem is caused because “food security” because of a few cases of food tampering. And don’t get me started on those hideous shrink wrapped goods that defy my strongest pair of scissors. Children’s toys and electronics are among the worst offenders.

    A lot of the plastic wrap for this stuff is to deter shoplifting.
    Could you imagine the loss rate of USB sticks/biros/pick some small product if they came in a shrinkwrap without the extra cardboard?

  175. Old School Conservative

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2768320, posted on July 20, 2018 at 10:51 am
    Everyone is smart. Except Trump

    That article is M0nty’s very own Room 101.

  176. If Australians are so nonchalant about her ‘drongo’ presence, why the $68,000 bill?
    Can we safely assume there’ll be no issues tonight?

    Milo stiffed the Bill on the last bill.

    “I am going to deliberately cause chaos in the streets of Melbourne, and I expect you to keep me safe at no cost to me.” Yeah right lady.

  177. candy

    Ms Husar currently had a staff member living with her who carried out household and nannying duties, it reported.

    It’s hard to believe in these day and times any worker would put up with abuse and outrageous demands.

    There must be something more to it. Like she has romantic relationships with staff who then move in with her.

  178. Are you proud to be Australian little man?

    I am proud to share a city with the fine people who showed up Southern as a cheap attention hound, yep.

  179. Boambee John

    calli
    #2768541, posted on July 20, 2018 at 2:43 pm
    A lot of the overpackaging problem is caused because “food security” because of a few cases of food tampering.

    On one occasion Boob Carr gave two press conferences not many days apart.

    During one he gave food packagers a serve for excessive packaging causing pollution. During the other, after a food tampering incident, he demanded more “tamper evident” packaging.

    The inconsistency did not seem to bother him.

  180. testpattern

    Time to get rid of Aqua Nullius. Martuwarra Fitzroy River watching closely.

    ‘Aqua nullius’: Indigenous group fronts River Murray royal commission

    ‘A royal commission in South Australia has heard evidence from an Indigenous group who want to enshrine Aboriginal water rights in national law.’

    https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2018/07/19/aboriginal-water-rights-murray-darling-royal-commission

    Indigenous Rights to Water in the Murray Darling Basin

    https://www.mdba.gov.au/sites/default/files/archived/mdbc-tlm-reports/1891_AIATSIS_DP14.pdf

  181. feelthebern

    Back when Melbourne was fun.

  182. cohenite

    I am proud to share a city with the fine people who showed up Southern as a cheap attention hound, yep.

    I’ll take that as a no.

  183. H B Bear

    When it comes to the retards on the streets of Melbournibad no-one does it better than Sam Newman who treats them as the mouth breathing imbeciles that they truly are. Not bad work for a geriatric pants man with more plastic surgery than Joan Rivers.

  184. IR;

    dot, First tell me the problem.

    I contend that supermarket bags and straws are not a problem.

    How about “I contend that dirty/lazy Asians, South Americans and Africans are the problem?”
    Oh.
    Right.
    I’m not allowed to say that.
    It’s racist.

  185. Habib

    If she has a staffer doing housemaid work that’s surely misappropriation, the bastards shouldn’t be paid by us in the first place as political appointees. Then again if they’re wiping arses and heaving rancid nappies in the bin they’re not giving these idiots even more idiotic advice. I take it all back. Send the pricks out with a weed whacker.

  186. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2768551, posted on July 20, 2018 at 2:52 pm
    Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

    You get such a lesson every time you post here!

  187. H B Bear

    Hey Testes why the blackfellas need all this water? They can’t even boil the stuff.

  188. JC

    I think Southern chose the wrong spot for her gambit. She should have headed further north instead of the city. Fitzroy, Brunswick etc are the lunatic hotspots.

  189. cohenite

    Lauren Southern should go on one of the university campuses. She’d strike solid shit there.

    But it was lame to pretend to be not her striking self.

  190. jupes

    Ms Husar currently had a staff member living with her who carried out household and nannying duties, it reported.

    Would I be correct to assume that taxpayers are paying for this?

  191. calli

    Yes, Winston, pilfering is a problem and security packaging is the answer.

    I wonder if the theives are also the ones bleating about debbildebbil plastic? Yesterday I bought a little package of doll’s clothes for my granddaughter. The dolls have limited plastic covering, possibly a virtue signal to would-be buyers. One of the dolls was missing her jacket – some jerk had decided to remove it from the still tethered doll in the box.

    What type of cretin does this?

  192. Baldrick

    m0nty
    #2768551, posted on July 20, 2018 at 2:52 pm
    Lauren Southern tries to cause trouble on the streets of Melbourne with some weak trolling, gets a lesson in Australian methods of dealing with drongoes.

    Naturally they saw right threw here. She’s the only good sort on the streets of Melbourne.

  193. candy

    She would be better to ask genuine questions of the far left extreme crowd, and keep polite, and just let the answers speak for themselves.

  194. candy

    Would I be correct to assume that taxpayers are paying for this?

    It doesn’t make sense though. The job description would not have babysitting and dog walking on it.
    Unless they are bullied terribly but these are people who know the ins and outs of all workplace issues.

  195. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mike Cernovich going after James Gunn on Twitter like a mad dog.

    Hollywood is in big trouble folks.

  196. C.L.

    Southern’s mistake was to assume she was known.
    I only heard of her myself about a week ago and I’m more au courant than most Australians.
    Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public, love.
    Still, it’s very telling that the snowflake Pol Potters who now run Australian online media have rushed to laugh at Southern rather than shirtfront and doorstop Graham Ashton and his Alfonse Gangitano-like colleagues who are trying to extort money from a young woman who simply wants to speak freely in Melbourne.

  197. Mater

    We received the travel and location arrangements for the Lauren Southern event tonight.
    No sane person would travel to the location they indicated, in the middle of the night, under the current conditions. Unbelievably stupid arrangements, from a security point of view.
    Despite being able to handle ourselves quite well, neither myself or my offsider see it as an acceptable risk. Unfortunately, we are out (and a couple of hundred bucks out of pocket).
    See Premier Andrews, under your watch, even men need to assess risks and make judgement calls regarding their own safety and well being.

  198. Armadillo

    The supermarkets are the worst offenders when it comes to over-use of plastic. I get the packaging of meat as it’s a hygiene issue

    More likely a profit issue. Everything is pre-packaged and ready to pick up off the shelf. Butchers paper has been around for a long, long time. Never any hygiene issues that I can recall.

  199. Calli;

    One of the dolls was missing her jacket – some jerk had decided to remove it from the still tethered doll in the box.

    What type of cretin does this?

    The sort of cretin who is currently unpunished in our society, and who think that because they remain unpunished, are immune to any sort of boundaries on their behaviour. They move on to stealing cars and then when they kill some family in the stolen vehicle, ask “Why did no one stop me?”
    The people who allow this sort of tragedy are never brought to account, nor in a realistic sense, are the perpetrators.
    And the ruling classes wonder why we are getting angry about it.

  200. testpattern

    ‘They can’t even boil the stuff’

    The missus mastered the kettle now she’s upgrading to a Black Linear

    http://www.smeg.com.au/product/cmsc451ne/

  201. We received the travel and location arrangements for the Lauren Southern event tonight.
    No sane person would travel to the location they indicated, in the middle of the night, under the current conditions.

    Are they that bad?

  202. feelthebern

    It’s been a while.
    Is there any news on the Thermomix front?

  203. feelthebern

    I fail to see why Lauren Southern attracts the attention she does.
    Milo is more entertaining.
    Jordan is more intellectually stimulating.
    Is it because she is easy on the eye?

  204. Candy;

    It doesn’t make sense though. The job description would not have babysitting and dog walking on it.
    Unless they are bullied terribly but these are people who know the ins and outs of all workplace issues.

    With the availability of USB microphone/memory sticks like this, someone would have to be an arrogant twit to not think your conversations may be recorded.

  205. Mater

    Are they that bad?

    Dover, considering who it is, the area proposed and arrangements in place, we believe so.
    I’ll post the message I got after it has finished and let you judge for yourself.
    As a Victorian, you’ll understand why.

  206. Mater

    I fail to see why Lauren Southern attracts the attention she does.
    Milo is more entertaining.
    Jordan is more intellectually stimulating.

    Paid to see all of them. My way of sending a message to our ‘betters’.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    Dover, considering who it is, the area proposed and arrangements in place, we believe so.
    I’ll post the message I got after it has finished and let you judge for yourself.
    As a Victorian, you’ll understand why.

    Sounds like she has been sold into trouble by someone wanting to curry favour with the regime.

  208. Gab

    Surely not Trades hall, Mater? And no don’t answer that.

  209. Tel

    “I am going to deliberately cause chaos in the streets of Melbourne, and I expect you to keep me safe at no cost to me.” Yeah right lady.

    That’s a fair point.

    Only certain select people are entitled to cause chaos on the streets of Melbourne and if you have to ask then you ain’t one of them.

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    Holy Sh$t.
    Cernovich just ended him.

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸
    @Cernovich
    ·
    11m
    And it’s over. This is potential child pornography that the FBI needs to track down. Do not look for link and I did not click. Do not risk it. This is law enforcement matter now.

    @Disney

    Hello @LAPDHQ, this is an authentic tweet that a subpoena will confirm.

  211. dragnet

    A belated “Thanks” to the Sydney Cats who turned up last Friday. I was pleased to find living, breathing people.
    Regrettably I was a bit lubricated beforehand from the usual after-work drinks, so I couldn’t provide the articulate, scintillating conversation I had hoped! And then I fell asleep on the late train, woke up at Minto and had to dpend $118.00 on taxi back to St George-land. Que Sera

  212. testpattern

    ‘I fail to see why Lauren Southern attracts the attention she does’

    Snow White and the Seven Fascists. Very popular in the 1930s. Now not so much.

  213. feelthebern

    Dragnet, that $118 could have bought you an addition two, maybe three beers in Sydney.

  214. Baldrick

    Dover, considering who it is, the area proposed and arrangements in place, we believe so.

    Mater, this is what’s doing the rounds on Twatter. Not sure how accurate it is.

  215. Mater

    Surely not Trades hall, Mater? And no don’t answer that.

    No, but I’d be more inclined to go if that was the case.

  216. Confused Old Misfit

    Old School Conservative
    #2768569, posted on July 20, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    I doubt it is teachable.

  217. Tel

    Dragnet, that $118 could have bought you an addition two, maybe three beers in Sydney.

    Enough to cook a roast dinner in Adelaide and some left over for a hot shower and cup of tea the next morning!

    DISCLAIMER: power may not always be available, check weather conditions before inviting a friend.

  218. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh no. I warned you P$zzagate was real.

    Lloyd Kaufman
    @lloydkaufman
    Replying to @JamesGunn
    @james_gunn The photos you posted are great-I loved all the the shots with you and Justin Bieber and with you and the Jonas brothers.
    2:25 AM · Aug 10, 2010

  219. Seriously, what sort of country have we become when a public event’s location has to be kept a secret?

  220. Armadillo

    Stimpy, what’s going on? You’re talking in riddles.

  221. Stimpson J. Cat

    Go to Cernovichs Twitter and watch it live.
    Hollywood, Marvel, and Disney are in big trouble.

  222. H B Bear

    The missus mastered the kettle now she’s upgrading to a Black Linear
    http://www.smeg.com.au/product/cmsc451ne/

    Nice Testes. Does it come in paperbark?

  223. Mater

    Mater, this is what’s doing the rounds on Twatter. Not sure how accurate it is.

    I won’t confirm until after the event, Baldrick, but there are a number of other arrangements in place (apart from the location) which increases the risk significantly.
    Lambs to the slaughter.

  224. Farmer Gez

    Lenin banned smoking in the train carriage he travelled on from Zurich to St Petersburg. The smokers resorted to using the toilet and as a result, long queues developed at the loo. Lenin then used toilet paper “passes” to regulate access to the toilet and your length of use.
    Won’t be long before the Colesworth commissars are handing out tickets so you don’t spend too long at the checkout. Create a mess and then regulate the results. Marxism 101.

  225. dragnet

    In the colder months I usually just buy a bottle of the house red at the pub, $20 gets one to the destination.
    No, I’m not related to Grigorae.

  226. Armadillo

    Go to Cernovichs Twitter and watch it live.

    Linky, Stimpy.

  227. EvilElvis

    They just don’t spend.

    $150,000 plus rigs and sunset champers everyday means sacrifices have to be made.

  228. Despite being able to handle ourselves quite well, neither myself or my offsider see it as an acceptable risk. Unfortunately, we are out (and a couple of hundred bucks out of pocket).

    Nice little earner for Southern. Maybe she planned it this way all along.

  229. Armadillo

    How many Twitter accounts does this dude have? Gorilla Mindset, personal, Cernovich, dangerously living or something….

  230. 4. Reprocess plastics back into petroleum, as biofuels and catalytically.

    Give me enough electricity and I can reprocess any “plastic” into another “plastic”.
    Yes you can make plastic bags out of plastic bags. Process is as cheap as the electricity is.

  231. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸
    @Cernovich

  232. Mater

    Nice little earner for Southern. Maybe she planned it this way all along.

    Monty, if this outcome sits well with you, you are beyond redemption.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    Women ‘not suited’ to be CEOs
    Professional provocateur Lauren Southern claims women are not psychologically developed to hold leadership positions.

    Her chances of fair and balanced coverage on the ABC, just shot to pieces.

  234. I fail to see why Lauren Southern attracts the attention she does

    Tell you what, when you have the balls to go and hand out “Allah is Gay” flyers in a city where half the population are Muzzies, then you can ask that question.

    Fucking armchair critics.

  235. Des Deskperson

    ‘Would I be correct to assume that taxpayers are paying for this?’

    Good question, Jupes.

    According to the Members of Parliament (Staff) Act 1984 (the MOPS Act) :

    ‘A Senator or a Member of the House of Representatives may, on behalf of the Commonwealth, employ, under an agreement in writing, a person as a member of the staff of the Senator or Member.’

    MOPS Act Staff are paid by the taxpayer. Their duties are not defined in the Act, but according to Department of Finance guidelines, they are:

    “employed to assist the Senator or Member to carry out duties as a Member of Parliament and not for party political purposes.”

    If Husar has employed a MOPS Act staffer to carry out ‘household and nannying duties’, then it is clearly outside these guidelines.

    On the other hand, MPs may also employ various interns and party wannabes, unpaid or paid for by the party. Let’s be kind and assume that Ms Husars’s ‘staffer’ was one of these.

  236. calli

    Armadillo
    #2768598, posted on July 20, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    Arma, I was commenting on the conditions within the supermarket framework.

    I would prefer not to have meat handled by all and sundry before I buy it. The butcher doesn’t count.

  237. Stimpson J. Cat

    For context.
    James Gunn directed and wrote Guardians of the Galaxy 1 + 2.
    Lloyd Kaufman created Troma Studio, Toxic Avenger, etc.

    This is going to completely blow up at Comic Con in San Diego the next few days where Gunn is scheduled to appear tomorrow.

    Biggest story of the year.

    Bravo Mike Cernovich.

  238. Funny. Last month Melbourne was all weepy, candle vigils, police lectures and sad music over wyminnses safety.

    This month a young hot blond is having to secretly arrange a talk, wander around with bodyguards and the cops are sending her a bill to protect her from violence.

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