Open Forum: July 21, 2018

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  1. egg_

    Does Grigs have @rse cancer, hence the @rseless wetsuit?

  2. testpattern

    Trump and Putin do a Keating [Keating negotiated a treaty with Suharto in secret so Australian opponents couldn’t wreck it]

    Masterclass in creating doubt by Helmer –

    ‘the two sides had agreed in advance not to issue an official communiqué revealing (to Trump’s adversaries at home) what they had agreed’

    http://johnhelmer.net/warfighting-strategy-after-helsinki-tit-for-tat-shit-for-shat/#more-19534

  3. Makka

    mOron’s back with his light saber! Cool move’s mUnty.

  4. candy

    It’s not just about Stormy any more, JC. The new one is Karen McDougal. Plus there’s probably Shera Bechard, who also got an abortion. A pattern is starting to form.

    So, the list to impeach Trump is popular vote meant Mrs Clinton was really the winner, locker room talk, Russian collusion, Trump insane, Trump’s family colluding with Russia, Stormy, treason with being pals with Putin to bring down America, and now a Karen McDougal and abortion.

    Will something stick, is anything real, does anyone really care if the jobs are there and the situation of black Americans is picking up and citizens feel more hopeful.

  5. egg_

    Wee Willy Shortone’s latest brain fart on an inheritance tax,

    Short Willy continues to play the bruvvas’ class division card of yore?

  6. Baldrick

    Reference Wee Willy Shortone’s latest brain fart on an inheritance tax, I have absolute confidence that Turdballs lacks the political nous to turn this into an election winni g campaign.

    You can bet your last lobster that Turnbull and the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal election winning machine were thinking of the same policy.

  7. C.L.

    Bringing home some durries is now reported as a “drugs” bust and a “threat”:

    AIRPORT security officials have been put on alert after crew members from two airlines were caught smuggling contraband into Melbourne.

    Jetstar said four flight attendants, believed to be three men and a woman, were sacked after they flew in from Bali late last month with 3.5kg of tobacco strapped to their bodies and hidden down pants.Melbourne Airport security ‘alert’ after flight crews caught smuggling…

    Craig Palmer, a Victorian regional commander for the Australian Border Force, said officials were aware of the threat of airline crew members smuggling in contraband.

    “Anyone coming into Australia will be scrutinised, including those who come in an official capacity,” he said.

    Criminologist James Martin said organised crime syndicates might be behind the smuggling attempts.

    “They will target anyone that can get drugs into a country. If screening procedures are too stringent, they will bribe people doing the procedures,” Mr Martin said…

    About 15 per cent of tobacco consumed is black market, and the trade costs nearly $2 billion a year in lost taxation revenue, a 2017 KPMG report found.

    And the demand for the black market drug is on the rise, with 15 per cent of all tobacco consumed in Australia last year sold illegally.

    The ABF-led Illicit Tobacco Task Force seized almost 60 million cigarettes in a recent nationwide bust.

    It came after a year-long investigation into a large-scale illicit tobacco importation and money laundering scheme by a serious organised crime syndicated linked to South East Asia.

  8. Makka

    mOron’s back with his light saber! Cool move’s mUnty.

  9. Rae

    Cohenite:

    So, that’s a mini microphone and recorder?

    Yes. Just plug it into your computer/any USB socket to charge, shove it in a pocket and it records really well.

    Lol

  10. Herodotus

    The Complete Steve Bannon EuroNews Interview
    This is a fabulous 45 minutes with Steve Bannon being interviewed by EuroNews, or at least listening to him speak, and they get schooled by him on quite a few topics. The questions are not as well miked as he is so at times hard to hear, but often they are fairly typical of what he calls “the propaganda arm of the global elites” or more simply “the opposition.” His view that populism and nationalism are not dirty words has merit, and he has had wide experience in careers to arrive at a pretty good view of how the world works. This dates from May 2018 so results in Germany, Hungary and Italy were known.

  11. Roger

    Hackers have broken into Singapore’s government medical records system and stolen the data of 1.5 million Singaporeans.

    Thankfully, Australians have Greg Hunt’s assurance that the same can’t happen here.

  12. Baldrick

    The ABF-led Illicit Tobacco Task Force seized almost 60 million cigarettes in a recent nationwide bust.
    It came after a year-long investigation into a large-scale illicit tobacco importation and money laundering scheme by a serious organised crime syndicated linked to South East Asia.

    And all because successive Australian governments have made tobacco products sold in Australia the most expensive in the world.
    Wow, who could have seen that coming?

  13. JC

    What is the legal jeopardy here, Monst?

  14. So, the list to impeach Trump is popular vote meant Mrs Clinton was really the winner, locker room talk, Russian collusion, Trump insane, Trump’s family colluding with Russia, Stormy, treason with being pals with Putin to bring down America, and now a Karen McDougal and abortion.

    candy, Trump is now at the stage where his lawyer goes on TV to claim that a tape of him discussing a payoff to a Playboy playmate with whom he conducted a year-long affair while the current First Lady suckled his newborn child – and McDougal is not the only one – is “powerful exculpatory evidence”. That is how far down the rabbit hole we are.

    If he does get impeached, I don’t know which of those charges he will face… maybe all of them at once? He is manifestly unfit for office due to all of the above and so much more.

  15. Pedro the Ignorant

    I reckon at least two thirds of the smokers at my local waterhole are rolling chop chop tobacco for their durries.

    Unless the shops are selling tobacco in clear sandwich bags these days.

  16. testpattern

    Aquaculture for the future

    ‘A STUDY is underway to see what marine and freshwater species would be most suitable for an aquaculture industry on Groote Eylandt. The ALC has engaged Dr Rik Buckworth from Fisheries Research and Education at Charles Darwin University to help put together a team of scientists to assess up to 26 different types of aquaculture species that could be farmed around the island, such as fish, prawns, trepang, crabs, lobsters, oysters, crocodiles and seaweed’

    https://www.anindilyakwa.com.au/uploads/images/Ayakwa_June_July2018_EmailVersion.pdf

    Groote and Tiwi are the best NT LCs. Enormous potential on GE. Rik should remember the Giant Clam farm that should’ve been. I would’ve invested in it then and would do again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_clam

  17. C.L.

    He is manifestly unfit for office due to all of the above and so much more.

    JFK ordered teen intern Mimi Alford to fellate Dave Powers at the White House pool.
    That was after he deflowered the child in his marital bed upstairs.
    Bill Clinton ordered Monica Lewinsky to lick his anus. (Starr Report).

  18. testpattern

    A masterclass in creating doubt by Helmer –

    ‘the two sides had agreed in advance not to issue an official communiqué revealing (to Trump’s adversaries at home) what they had agreed’

    http://johnhelmer.net/warfighting-strategy-after-helsinki-tit-for-tat-shit-for-shat/#more-19534

    Of course Trump and Putin wouldn’t be the first to do this. Keating did the same when he negotiated a treaty in secret with Suharto, fearing opponents in Australia would scuttle it.

  19. Roger

    More multikulti celebrations in Germany:

    At least 12 injured in bus attack by knife wielding Iranian.

    Seems he took to the knife when the bomb in his backpack failed to detonate.

  20. JC

    Anyone could be made to look unfit for office, Fatboy. The Kenyan was unfit for office when we heard of his association with the white hate cult posing as a Christian church.

    The fact is that the left has gone after Trump since the day he was elected. He hasn’t been given a break, so fuck you and the swamp.

    If it’s true that mueller immunised pedesta, mueller a deserves to go in front of the Crane Court.

  21. cohenite

    The creep is relying on scuttlebutt about Trump’s affairs based on the evidence of whores and pimps, nothing about wussia. That’s what it’s come to. We have a highly paid demorat thug, mueller, conducting an open ended slime hunt for anything, anything at all to throw at Trump while he and the rest of the bastards are neck high in puke. And the fucking media, oozing around in the morass like fart bubbles.

  22. Geriatric Mayfly

    Trumpets and fanfare when a big tobacco consignment is impounded. Smart governments like the sort we get, wouldn’t just be banging up the culprits, but charging them excise as well. Just like the fossick brigade do at the airport if you are a few fags over the limit.

  23. Oh come on

    Trump is now at the stage where his lawyer goes on TV to claim that a tape of him discussing a payoff to a Playboy playmate with whom he conducted a year-long affair while the current First Lady suckled his newborn child – and McDougal is not the only one – is “powerful exculpatory evidence”.

    LOL m0nty is hoping to relaunch the Moral Majority with him in Jerry Falwell’s chair.

    Look I could say that Trump denies the affair but seriously – who gives a shit if he did or he didn’t? Trump never ran as a saint. Pretty much everyone knows Trump almost certainly has a history of putting it about. It’s been known since before he was elected. He was elected anyway.

    Your outraged prude act isn’t very convincing, m0nts.

  24. The creep is relying on scuttlebutt about Trump’s affairs based on the evidence of whores and pimps, nothing about wussia. That’s what it’s come to. We have a highly paid demorat thug, mueller, conducting an open ended slime hunt for anything, anything at all to throw at Trump while he and the rest of the bastards are neck high in puke. And the fucking media, oozing around in the morass like fart bubbles.

    Are you tired of winning yet?

  25. JC

    Well said, Cohenite. But next time a little less emotionalism and fanfare. You over-flour at times.

    Mueller should be given two options when he fronts Crane’s Court. Death or exile.

  26. So, here’s Giuliani’s quote to the NYT:

    “Nothing in that conversation suggests that he had any knowledge of it in advance,” Giuliani told the newspaper of the payment to American Media Inc. Giuliani added that Trump told Cohen that if he did pay McDougal, it should be in the form of a check instead of cash so that it could be properly recorded, The Times said.

    “In the big scheme of things, it’s powerful exculpatory evidence,” Giuliani said.

    And here’s the latest from WaPo:

    In the September 2016 conversation, Cohen and Trump were discussing a plan by Cohen to attempt to purchase the rights to McDougal’s story from AMI for roughly $150,000, according to one person familiar with recording.

    On the tape, Trump can be heard urging Cohen to make sure he properly documents the agreement to buy the rights and urges him to use a check — rather than cash — to keep a record of the transaction, the person said.

    It is unclear why Cohen and Trump sought to purchase the story from AMI and then did not complete the transaction.

    So within an hour or so of the statement by Giuliani, it gets shot down in a screaming ball of flames. The adults are in charge LOL.

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    The President of a nation, having had, or is having a fling. The French, with a shrug, mutter deja vu as they get back to reading Le Monde.

  28. testpattern

    ‘More multikulti celebrations in Germany’

    [email protected] fur Deutschland. Racist. Different.

  29. mh

    Dennis Rodman Wants to Bring Kanye West With Him to North Korea, Talks Friendship With Kim Jong Un

    Black leftist Maxine Waters will hate the idea of these two blacks going to see a leftist.

  30. Oh come on

    I’m not seeing much of a contradiction between your two quotes, m0nty.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The President of a nation, having had, or is having a fling. The French, with a shrug, mutter deja vu as they get back to reading Le Monde.

    Who was the French Prime Minister, under pressure to sack a Cabinet Mister for keeping a mistress, replied that if he sacked every one of his ministers who kept a mistress, he would have very few, if any left?

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cabinet Minister..

  33. C.L.

    One of Trump’s original high-powered accusers was the Attorney-General of New York. That was before it was revealed he likes beating up and whipping black girls in his own personal dungeon.

  34. C.L.

    Dennis Rodman Wants to Bring Kanye West With Him to North Korea, Talks Friendship With Kim Jong Un

    They can’t do any worse than the last black American involved in these things.

  35. JC

    One of Trump’s original high-powered accusers was the Attorney-General of New York. That was before it was revealed he likes beating up and whipping black girls in his own personal dungeon.

    Which one… Spitzer or Schneiderman?

  36. Makka

    The left’s Abolish ICE! campaign makes complete sense when you consider the great work ICE does and the left want to stop;

    ICE arrests Aguas Buenas man for attempting to sexually entice a minor

    This investigation was conducted under HSI’s Operation Predator, an international initiative to protect children from s3xual predators. Since the launch of Operation Predator in 2003, HSI has arrested more than 16,000 individuals for crimes against children, including the production and distribution of online child pawnography, traveling overseas for s3x with minors, and s3x trafficking of children. In fiscal year 2016, more than 2,600 child predators were arrested by HSI special agents under this initiative and more than 800 victims identified or rescued.

    https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-aguas-buenas-man-attempting-s3xually-entice-mynor?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Edit the link.

  37. Oh come on

    Schneiderman. Samantha Bee (of the feckless xunt fame) loved her some Schneiderman – before she didn’t. Oops.

  38. I’m not seeing much of a contradiction between your two quotes, m0nty.

    No surprise there OCO, you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  39. monty is whipping himself into a frenzy and yet Hillary will never be President.

  40. Makka

    I’m glad mUnty is bringing up the high moral standards of the left. He’s really #winning?

  41. candy

    f he does get impeached, I don’t know which of those charges he will face… maybe all of them at once? He is manifestly unfit for office due to all of the above and so much more.

    What charges, Monty?

    Sleeping with a lady?

  42. 132andBush

    Who pays you to say this crap, monty?

  43. mh

    Who was the French Prime Minister, under pressure to sack a Cabinet Mister for keeping a mistress, replied that if he sacked every one of his ministers who kept a mistress, he would have very few, if any left?

    Just pick any one.

  44. Some History

    Criminologist James Martin said organised crime syndicates might be behind the smuggling attempts.

    Sure is, Jim. The organized crime syndicate behind the smuggling attempts is the Australian Federal Government. But, then, Jim would know that, given he’s doing a lot of deflecting with asinine crap on behalf of the AFG.

    What a mess!

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    A STUDY is underway to see what marine and freshwater species would be most suitable for an aquaculture industry on Groote Eylandt.

    TP – That would be a good industry for aboriginal peoples to get into.
    There’s an aquaculture operation just north of Ncl at Port Stephens.
    Helping aboriginal high schoolers to go into that stream of agricultural/zoological science would be a useful thing, as the industry is quite technical. But it shouldn’t be beyond the capability of many aboriginal kids, so long as they know that it exists. I suspect GEMCO would fall over themselves to offer scholarships.

    Groote Eylandt may not be the best location as the currents may not be sufficiently strong to sweep away the waste products from fish cages. It’s a bit shallow there. But there’s a good history in the Gulf of aboriginal owned and operated corporations. The concentrate barges from the Century mine have been an aboriginal-owned and operated business for many years until recently when the mine was depleted.

  46. Makka

    monty is whipping himself into a frenzy

    I’ve told him he’d go blind, dover.

  47. Some History

    Jetstar said four flight attendants, believed to be three men and a woman, were sacked after they flew in from Bali late last month with 3.5kg of tobacco strapped to their bodies and hidden down pants.Melbourne Airport security ‘alert’ after flight crews caught smuggling…

    Yep. That’s a “big” bust – 3.5kg between 4 people. Great that Border Force and the “criminologist” are on the ball.

    https://imgur.com/0lVYZhb

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump never ran as a saint. Pretty much everyone knows Trump almost certainly has a history of putting it about. It’s been known since before he was elected. He was elected anyway.

    The other fun thing is the lefty strategy.
    First wronged wymminses off the rank was an ex-porn star.
    Stormy then went on a massive look-at-me media campaign.
    She was assisted by a seedy lawyer whose baggage would fill the hold of an A380.
    CNN had him on over an over, more than 100 times in a few months.
    Consequently American TV watchers are utterly sick of Stormy and Avenatti’s antics.
    They come over as the dregs of a particularly bad batch of bootleg booze.
    America has a Stormy hangover.

    And now M0nty is invoking more ladies of uncertain repute courtesy of Mueller the intrepid Wussian-hunter.
    Their campaigning field has been thoroughly marched over by the armies of the not very righteous MSM. Slim pickings remain. It is logical that the American public would think “if Stormy is the first and best that Mueller could come up with, then these new ladies must be even less plausible than she is”.

    If this is a strategy it is one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Good luck with that blue wave.

  49. Mallee Miss

    Perhaps now that an African-Australian teen has died violently in Melbourne Mr Andrews and Mr Aston will do something about the “non-existent” African gang problem. Another short stay rental party gone wrong.

  50. JC

    Crims are stupid fucking people. Even if they succeed once or twice, the odds are stacked against them because of their general stupidity.

    We’ve had a van parked over the lip of our driveway for about 5 weeks. I’m generally good about hat sort of stuff because I take a live and let live attitude if it’s a minor inconvenience. But 5 weeks!

    I texted the owner complaining it’s been parked on the our drive for so long and the girl told me it had been stolen.

    It has Queensland plates, which means the thief drove the van down from Queensland. The fucking thing is a bright pink van with dog minding service advertising all over it! So the idiot drove the van for ~ 2000K with all those markings!

  51. Some History

    Given the mess that “Tobacco Control” has created, a word from Simon Crapman.

    https://imgur.com/0l7fU7x

  52. Oh come on

    No surprise there OCO, you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed.

    That was an opportunity to point out what you claim are the vast distinctions between the two passages you posted. Instead you came out with the above. So you’ve got nothing. You really are a low energy loser, m0nty!

  53. JC

    You really are a low energy loser, m0nty!

    Except, except when it comes to downing donuts.

  54. Some History

    The Simon Crapman Collection

    ON SPECIAL
    For this weekend only, the entire set is selling for $1.49

    Be quick. Next week the set reverts to normal price of 59c.

    https://imgur.com/L9v1Y6Z

  55. cohenite

    Ayaan Hirsi Aly has a great piece on the Sudanese gangs, islam and the general incompatibility of groups brought to Australia and the West by the fungus sniffing elites:

    In 2015 I developed a framework for identifying the characteristics of those immigrants who would be more or less likely to integrate, based on data from the past 50 years of migration experience from Middle Eastern and ­African nations to Europe. I identified four common types of immigrant: adaptors, coasters, fanatics and menaces. These categories are not rigidly separate and change across time, but they may be useful for reflecting on the Australian context.

    Immigrants are diverse in age, country of origin, gender, language and in the levels of income they enjoyed before embarking on their journey to Europe. Some have been there for generations but more than a million have arrived in the past three years. Nevertheless, they have several things in common. They all came from societies that are not free. Their identities along with their loyalties and views have been shaped by those circumstances. They have attitudes to religion, viol­ence, sex, money and time that are radically different from the attitudes of Europeans.

    Empirical data across the board has shown that the European nations that took in these immigrants have struggled to integrate them.

  56. Makka

    Thanks OCO, deserves another run, especially the Trump celebration at the end;

  57. Eyrie

    JC, the average bogan has trouble thinking two steps ahead. The average crim has trouble with one. You are right, they are merely stupid which is why the Gang in Blue can sometimes catch them.

  58. calli

    It wasn’t Mutt Cuts was it JC?

    😀

  59. cohenite

    Just following on from that Ayaan Hirsi Ali article, a photograph of 3 Sudanese interviewed by 3 police; which group are you going to have your money on:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155821183894370&set=a.10150149146444370.295334.573739369&type=3&theater

  60. Roger

    Perhaps now that an African-Australian teen has died violently in Melbourne Mr Andrews and Mr Aston will do something about the “non-existent” African gang problem.

    Media reporting the death as the result of a “dispute between two groups of young African Australians.”

    .

  61. JC

    Lol Calli

    I swear, paint it pink and it would be identical.

  62. Oh come on

    Makka, and the Schneiderman-enabler Samantha Bee’s epic dummy spit after he resigned is priceless.

  63. BorisG

    It has Queensland plates, which means the thief drove the van down from Queensland. The fucking thing is a bright pink van with dog minding service advertising all over it! So the idiot drove the van for ~ 2000K with all those markings!

    sorry why is this stupid?

  64. JC

    Boris

    He drove the van for 2000K and it was very distinctive. It was for 2000K down a pretty busy HWY.

  65. Rae

    Interesting attempted diversionary tactics by the Trumpsters here. But, we were witnessing the same here some months ago. Pointing to the alleged type of women who were bonked by the Pussy Grabber in Chief, and saying that every other politician does or did the same.

    Weeellll …. that ain’t the problem guys, and candy.

    The problem is that the women involved were paid to shut up during the election campaign. That’s conspiracy, bribery and electoral fraud. Those are indictable criminal offenses that carry substantial jail terms.

    And then there was, at the same time, the PGiC making a big deal of Bubba’s unhappy alleged former bonkees and parading them in the front row at the televised debates and in interviews on TV to influence the voters. That’s motive.

    Impeachment grounds right there.

    And then there’s Wussia Wussia, which is grinding along overcoming the attempted hindrances that the White House and the Republicans have thrown at it so far.

  66. Samantha Bee is one of the least funny comedians going around.

  67. Makka

    Someone sent me this #walkaway vid for a look at. Not because I’m interested in the movement but our discussion was about the importance of understanding history and how crucial it is to be taught properly to our youngsters.

    This well educated woman learned a little history and woke up to the leftscum;

  68. Mater

    The fucking thing is a bright pink van with dog minding service advertising all over it!

    ASIO won’t appreciate you drawing attention to their surveillance van, JC.
    They pride themselves on their subtlety, discretion and subterfuge.
    Credit where credit is due…5 weeks!

  69. Oh come on

    Samantha Bee is one of the least funny comedians going around.

    But she swears a lot. Isn’t that funny?

  70. BorisG

    He drove the van for 2000K and it was very distinctive. It was for 2000K down a pretty busy HWY.

    yet nobody caught him.

  71. JC

    dover_beach
    #2769259, posted on July 21, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Samantha Bee is one of the least funny comedians going around.

    And really quite unattractive, which I reckon is why she’s so toxic.

  72. Tel

    Samantha Bee is one of the least funny comedians going around.

    Quite a challenge when you consider who else is going around.

  73. JC

    Boris..

    That’s true, but read again what I said about playing odds against too often.

  74. woolfe

    JC if the vans owner did not brown bag the cops and unions why would they bother to look for it?

  75. BorisG

    That’s conspiracy, bribery and electoral fraud. Those are indictable criminal offenses that carry substantial jail terms.

    conspiracy is only a crime if it is conspiracy to commit a crime. Paying someone is not a crime. nothing in such a payment is electoral fraud.

    maybe there is a campaign finance violation. not sure.

  76. BorisG

    JC, I think by and large crime is a high risk / high reward activity.

  77. JC

    Boris

    I think that on your metrics crime is high risk low reward.

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    That’s conspiracy, bribery and electoral fraud.

    Conspiracy to do what, exactly?
    A confidentiality agreement entered into by both parties for a consideration is not bribery.
    That one party finds it is uncomfortable after the fact is just karma: they didn’t have to sign the agreement. I’ve been under many such confidentiality agreements for work, they paid me well nnot to tell other people stuff and I did not do so.
    I can’t see any electoral fraud, since confidentiality agreements have nothing to do with elections.
    If they were every public servant and every campaign official would then be guilty of electoral fraud.

  79. Geriatric Mayfly

    African-Australians. Doesn’t quite trip off the tongue. Even less so when ascribed to some of the imported rubbish currently attracting notoriety.

  80. monty receives his legal advice from Denis Denuto.

  81. cohenite

    The problem is that the women involved were paid to shut up during the election campaign. That’s conspiracy, bribery and electoral fraud. Those are indictable criminal offenses that carry substantial jail terms.

    No they weren’t and no they aren’t. But take us through how Trump’s payment to stormy contravenes electoral laws. As you see it.

  82. Mallee Miss

    I’m just waiting for the latest Sudanese community representative to read out a statement saying the owner of the unit should have checked them all for knives before giving them the keys to the place.

  83. Baldrick

    Please do not feed the Troll 👹™

  84. Steve trickler

    It is always good when human beings push the limits. You get to watch it these days.

    Look what these blokes do. The driver is one cool chap. He’d be arrested in Australia doing this. Classed as a hoon. Failure to wear high-viz included.



    Good laugh.

    Posted previously on the old thread.

  85. Oh come on

    But take us through how Trump’s payment to stormy contravenes electoral laws. As you see it.

    Ignore the tragic sicko.

  86. Boambee John

    Reactionary lackey at 1319

    Trump is manifestly unfit for office due to all of the above and so much more.

    And yet, with all his faults, he is so clearly better than Shrillary would have been!

  87. BorisG

    And yet, with all his faults, he is so clearly better than Shrillary would have been!

    that is the very definition of cold comfort.

  88. Makka

    that is the very definition of cold comfort.

    Jesus Christ didn’t run in the 2016 election.

  89. Hey guys, I made up a joke:

    What have immigration and the minimum wage got in common?

    The correct number for both is ZERO.

    Linky.

  90. Gary

    Trump’s voters get him because not only is he we, but we are he. We were not snowflaked-for-life by effete professors who themselves never had negotiated tough life-or-death serious deals. Instead we live in the real world, and we know how that works. Not based on social science theories, not based on “conceptual negotiating models.” But based on the people we have met over life and always will hate. That worst boss we ever had. The coworker who tried to sabotage us. We know the sons of bums whom we survived, the dastardly types who are out there, and we learned from those experiences how to deal with them. We won’t have John Kerry soothe us by having James Taylor sing “You’ve Got a Friend” carols.

  91. DrBeauGan

    You guys don’t understand m0nty. You think he is putting up evidence for arguments. He isn’t, he has never mastered the idea.

    Most people learn by age two that language can be used for telling people things about what you have seen in the world. Before that, kids just make noises to express their feelings. M0nty has never got beyond that point. So the correct translation of a m0nty post is always “Waaaaaahhh!”

  92. cohenite

    You guys don’t understand m0nty. You think he is putting up evidence for arguments. He isn’t, he has never mastered the idea.

    You’re right; I’m interested in the Hush Agreement and the creep sucked me into conversing with him. My bad. But that Hush agreement is fascinating. It reads like the porn star was putting the weights on the T and he made a commercial decision.

  93. Mitch M.

    Monty:

    Trump cheated on his wife, cheats at golf, cheats in business, cheated on the draft. He cheats, that’s not an offence it is just Trump.

  94. JC

    Doc

    Monst is just an over the hill lesbian looking for relevance. No need to over cook the broth.

  95. JC

    How do you know he cheats at golf, Mitch M.

  96. John Constantine

    What’s Trump done that their ABC didn’t conceal evidence about previous Australian prime minister’s and current hopefuls doing worse?.

    Their Victorian labor party had a dedicated clean up squad to fix things for up and coming future leaders.

    Australia does organised industrial scale corruption so well.

    Comrades.

  97. Mitch M.

    How do you know he cheats at golf, Mitch M.

    One example JC but there are many people who say the same thing.

    http://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/01/30/president-trump-cheats-hell-golf-course-according-suzann-pettersen

  98. Boambee John

    JC
    #2769294, posted on July 21, 2018 at 4:07 pm
    Doc

    Monst is just an over the hill lesbian looking for relevance. No need to over cook the broth.

    What was that comment someone heard in Sydney the other day? Mutton dressed as ram?

  99. testpattern

    ‘Groote Eylandt may not be the best location as the currents may not be sufficiently strong to sweep away the waste products from fish cages. It’s a bit shallow there.’

    Can be deep. You can drop an anchor right by cliffs. Port Langdon+NW Bay are shallow. East and west GE are different, different climates too, one gets rain the other bugger all. Prawn farming would be just silly, there are so many nurseries that recruit out to the major wild caught fisheries. The contour comes close to the east coast of GE and drops right off, the north has plenty of bays suitable for aquaculture and was the proposed site of the giant clam farm. Canberra didn’t want it to happen then. Tides are not as big as Darwin, currents take over further offshore. Cyclones hardly ever. Seaweed is another possibility, we could get two harvests annually and support downstream processing to value add. Labour intensive but ideal for family businesses likewise trepang. Rik’s a good choice I’ve known him since th 80s when he was on Groote.

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Trump cheated on his wife, cheats at golf, cheats in business, cheated on the draft. He cheats, that’s not an offence it is just Trump.

    “cheated on the draft” – Trump obtained student deferments – quite legal – and was then found “not fit for duty” on medical grounds. How’s that “cheating the draft?”

  101. rickw

    Hackers have broken into Singapore’s government medical records system and stolen the data of 1.5 million Singaporeans.

    Just went to visit some elderly friends, “can you help us opt out?”. Sure!

  102. Tintarella di Luna

    monty receives his legal advice from Denis Denuto.

    Must be the vibe dover_beach

  103. cohenite

    Trump cheated on his wife, cheats at golf, cheats in business, cheated on the draft. He cheats

    Come on, you’re better than that; that’s just a meme.

  104. Gary

    Given the duplicitous tactics of others id say monty is the honourable opposition.

  105. Dr Fred Lenin

    Interesting to see the racist fascist protesters protesting against racism and fascism in Melbourne and demonstrating for free speech by trying to close down a free speech meeting . They probably hate Russia because it threw out the communists , like the US decromats who used to fear those dammed commies in Russia . Soros financces the left to promote capitalism like his own ,he owns lots of politicians and dole bludging activites who are concerned about the workers and bring heaps of illiterate peasants to take the workers jobs and lower wages so Spros am[nd mates make more profits. Modern socialist communist narxism isn’t so hard to understand is it ? Everything is so clear and obvious.

  106. Mitch M.

    and was then found “not fit for duty” on medical grounds. How’s that “cheating the draft?”

    Bone spurs is bollocks …

    Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.
    He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. His medical history was unblemished, aside from a routine appendectomy when he was 10.

  107. cohenite

    He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf.

    And the women loved him.

  108. DrBeauGan

    I doubt if Trump cheats at golf because that takes out what little fun it offers. In everything else, instead of following other people’s rules, he makes his own up. You can call that cheating if you like. It’s what intelligent men do. And all women.

  109. Beachcomber

    They probably hate Russia because it threw out the communists

    The fascist left establishment hates the Russians because they have rejected Green Marxism and embrace their own country, culture, and free enterprise. The same reason they hate Hungary, Poland, eastern Ukraine and even Italy who are breaking free of the EU.

  110. Cactus

    Trump. I am on board with most of MAGA. But i dont think he should have criticized the Fed. I dont think the President should do that. I beleive in Indepedent central banks for the most part.

  111. testpattern

    #Julieleaks

    Wonderful to be in the UK. As trade was my theme I chose to look like a chunk of deliciously marbled Wagyu beef which we shall be able to sell to the UK in great quantity when they Brexit. Foreign Secretary Hunt very kindly said I looked good enough to eat! And I did! I have offered him a special tasting. That journalist pretending to take notes on a blank page is waiting for a DFAT press release and NOT because I said nothing worth writing about.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dij1UdBUYAADEes.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Sliced_Matsusaka_wagyu_beef.jpg

  112. Nick

    I’m in Lubeck, Germany, today. An Iranian stabbed 14 oldies on a bus here yesterday, leaving a ‘smoking bag’ behind. The BBC had the incident on its banner, though not one mention of Iranian. Never mind fake news, ‘scrubbed news’ is as bad.

  113. Cactus

    Sorry if I spam the thread with a stream of consciousness. Qt a pub waiting for friends less punctual than I.

    Liverpool FC are goi lng to challenge for the premier league title this year. They just signed the Brazilian national goal keeper Allisson. Missing piece.

  114. DrBeauGan

    Beachcomber
    #2769314, posted on July 21, 2018 at 4:55 pm
    They probably hate Russia because it threw out the communists

    The fascist left establishment hates the Russians because they have rejected Green Marxism and embrace their own country, culture, and free enterprise. The same reason they hate Hungary, Poland, eastern Ukraine and even Italy who are breaking free of the EU.

    Lefties hate everyone who isn’t a loser, Beachcomber.

  115. H B Bear

    ALPBC/BBC – all the news that is fit to omit.

  116. Cactus

    Just spotted. A guy in a mullet with a moustache. What year is it?

  117. Bruce in WA

    Ha-ha! Looks like they’re auditioning for a Dr Who movie —

    “Anni-hil-ate! Des-troy!”

  118. Neil

    He cheats, that’s not an offence it is just Trump

    Shows how things have changed. It was not that long ago that divorce was seen as shocking and a three times married person would never be selected for a political party let alone lead it. Actually cheating is an offense. I guess you could say as a good point for the Clintons is that they are still married for whatever reason.

  119. Tel

    Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.
    He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. His medical history was unblemished, aside from a routine appendectomy when he was 10.

    Mitch if you are going to quote from the New York Times, the appropriate thing to do is make it clear you have made a quote (e.g. blockquote tag or those old fashioned quote marks) and also attribute a link.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html

    I should point out that playing a lot of sports like basketball, that drives high impact through the feet makes you more likely to get bone spurs, not less likely. The spur comes from a recurrent injury that has not sufficiently been allowed to rest up, and thus triggered calcification. Exactly how far you can push yourself depends on the individual. This can be a symptom of potassium and/or magnesium deficiency (both highly soluble metals, so your body can run out easily if you are not eating the right things) because the tighter muscle is more prone to tearing. It can also simply be someone exercising more than they really should. It has nothing whatsoever to so with having an “athletic build” nor with being a “picture of health” nor is it in any way related to how tall you are. This article is typical journalistic bullshit.

  120. JMH

    Perhaps now that an African-Australian teen has died violently in Melbourne Mr Andrews and Mr Aston will do something about the “non-existent” African gang problem. Another short stay rental party gone wrong.

    “African-Australian”? Hmm – yeah. My question is:- Where are these dropkicks getting the money to rent places such as this to unleash their inner tribalism?

  121. woolfe

    Cactus,

    Its 1968 in WA.

  122. Some History

    Rejoice, oh ye “nicotine addicts”.
    Crapman & Drab will SAVE® You.

    https://imgur.com/pYeSvx1

  123. wivenhoe

    Where are these dropkicks getting the money to rent places such as this to unleash their inner tribalism?
    Apparently, breaking into houses, stealing cars, and other misdemeanors must be profitable.

  124. Cactus

    Ha Woolfe. Ive ventured back to Queensland. I now understand whymy wifes apartment she bought 10 years ago has lost 30% of value. Man apartments everywhere. Cranes ominously everywhere too.

  125. None

    Thanks, Calli. I think.

  126. Anthony

    I look forward to Trump issuing pardons to all of these innocent parties being vilified and framed by the Mule-er witch hunt.

  127. JMH

    I suspect so, wivenhoe. At least the barbarians offed one of their own rather than a non-offending white privileged Victorian!

  128. Cactus

    Saw Mum. Had brunch. I remarked as I perused the menu. Whenever I see pulled pork or pulled chicken I think, well lucky pig. Maybe making them happy just before they die makes the meat taste better. My Mum had one of those whole body laughs for the ages. Good times

  129. woolfe

    That would be why banks want a large deposit for apartments i guess? Who is financing all the apartment building? Union Super probably.

  130. Nick

    Perhaps if Trump had driven his car into the water, killing a girlfriend, he’d be protected.

  131. JMH

    Further to mine at 5.22 pm. I should have added the words ‘for now’. Victoria is at 5 minutes to midnight before “African-Australian” homicide becomes the norm.

  132. Cactus

    Observed at pub. Fat husband. Fat wife. Normal looking kids in tow. Good parenting I guess?

  133. Steve trickler

    We all carry Edgar around in our pockets today.

    Nostalgic.



  134. mh

    Impeachment grounds right there.

    Are these sad lost souls going to keep this up for the remaining six years of the Trump Presidency while America and Trump continue to win?

  135. Eyrie

    catus: “I beleive in Indepedent central banks for the most part.”
    Do you also believe in Father Christmas and the Easter bunny. Who exactly is the Central Bank responsible to? At least if they just report to politicians and the pollies make the call, the blame falls on the pollies.

  136. Cactus

    My wife is a tolerant person. When we first met over dates 1-3 I gave her my controversial views on a few topics. AGW is a scam. Property in Aus at that time wasitoo. Have no problems with Japan whaling if the whales arent endangered. She kept dating me after that broadside!

  137. Cactus

    Eyrie. Yeah. I dunno. Maybe i need to think about it more. If pollies are in control they will always keep rates too low for too long. On the other hand. The independent central banks have done too.

  138. Eyrie

    Any one who can possible avoid being conscripted against their will should do everything possible to avoid same.
    Trump is smart.
    Not all warriors fight in the front line. Others fight in a time and place of their choosing. Don John of America, the Last Knight of the West, has appeared in the nick of time.

  139. Rae

    take us through how Trump’s payment to stormy contravenes electoral laws

    I did so some months ago, when the Trump fans here were stamping their feet about Mueller. If you are so keen to be reminded of your own wrongology on the matter then feel free to go back and look it up.

  140. calli

    Thanks, Calli. I think.

    You’re welcome. Enjoyed deciphering your posts this morning, a bit like doing the cryptic crossword.

    I have a love/hate relationship with technology. Some of it is only fit for exorcism. 😊

  141. Eyrie

    Cactus, the Central Bank should publish its advice and reasons, the pollies then make the call and take the heat. As it should be in representative democracy.

  142. DrBeauGan

    Oh gawd. I thought he’d been smoted.

  143. wivenhoe

    Oh gawd. I thought he’d been smoted.

    Yeah, me too. At least my scroll finger got a short respite.

  144. testpattern

    Trump’s Twitter feed is gold mine for foreign spies

    ‘foreign intelligence agencies are utilizing President Trump’s tweets in numerous ways while building his personality profile. The most obvious ways are by performing content analysis of his tweets, which could then be matched against information collected from other sources about major US policy decisions. Additionally, foreign intelligence agencies could identify media sources that the US president seems to prefer, and then try to feed information to these sources that might sway his views. Countries like Saudi Arabia and Russia may have done so already’

    https://intelnews.org/2018/07/03/01-2349/

  145. Cactus

    Yeah but Eyrie, wont the pollies just stack with low interest rate stooges? Maybe that happens now.

  146. Boambee John

    Cactus at 1656

    I beleive in Indepedent central banks for the most part.

    These were among the first elements of the “Administrative State”.

    Like other elements, including Their ABC, SBS, the HRC, and many other statutory bodies established to operate without democratic ovesight while funded by the taxpayer, they need to be abolished.

    The fascist left has been responsible for establishing, or corrupting existing, many of these bodies. The staffing of the commissioners or board members is often by a supposedly independent process which, on closer examination, is controlled by bureaucratic organisations without democratic responsibility. They need to be brought under ministerial control, or cut loose from the Budget.

  147. None

    I have a love/hate relationship with technology. Some of it is only fit for exorcism. 

    To quote Neil from The Young Ones: machines hate me.

  148. Cactus

    Smoting? Rae? I just scroll.

  149. Cactus

    Ok Boambee John. How should our money supply and monetary policy work?

  150. Boambee John

    wivenhoe
    #2769358, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    Oh gawd. I thought he’d been smoted.

    Yeah, me too. At least my scroll finger got a short respite.

    Scrollin’, scrollin’, scrollin’

    Keep that scroll wheel on scrollin’

    Right byyyyeee.

    Don’t try to interact

    Not worth it, that’s a fact,

    Just keep on scrollin’ right byyyyeeee!

  151. H B Bear

    Yeah, me too. At least my scroll finger got a short respite.

    My mouse died after about 10 years of service. New mouse and I’m scrolling like a champ.

  152. Eyrie

    The Central Bank has one and just one duty. Ensure a stable currency. Zero inflation, integrated over time.
    Without a stable reference things get stupid. Imagine of the length of a standard meter was shrunk by 2% a year. We could claim we were all living in bigger houses every year. The country would get larger every year! Fantastic!

  153. Boambee John

    Cactus

    A body responsible to a specific minister provides and publishes its advice.

    The minister makes his decision. If it goes bad, he gets the chop, either from Cabinet immediately or from Parliament at the next elections.

    The Reserve Bank board as now constituted stays regardless of their effectiveness.

  154. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump’s Twitter feed is gold mine for foreign spies

    Hillary’s server-in-the-bathroom was hacked by five intelligence agencies. Relying on Trump tweets would be a rude fall from grace for them all.

  155. Rae

    I should point out that playing a lot of sports like basketball, that drives high impact through the feet makes you more likely to get bone spurs, not less likely. The spur comes from a recurrent injury that has not sufficiently been allowed to rest up, and thus triggered calcification.

    No. Bone spurs in the feet, as the PGiC dodged the Draft with, are usually caused by osteoarthritis (no-one has claimed he had it) or, more commonly, plantar fasciitis. The latter is easily corrected with orthotics (special insoles worn temporarily in the shoe on the affected foot). But, if you have a compliant doctor and pay him well no doubt bone spurs can be described as a life-threatening condition.

  156. H B Bear

    Ha Woolfe. Ive ventured back to Queensland. I now understand whymy wifes apartment she bought 10 years ago has lost 30% of value. Man apartments everywhere. Cranes ominously everywhere too.

    Brisvegas is ground zero for the apartment apocalypse. Zero land value and as soon as their value increases the Ponzi peeps just build more. Plenty of stories in the papers of vendors pulling apartments from the market rather than crystallise some sizable losses.

  157. Cactus

    I think my wifes apartment was bought for 330. Mark to market might be 250. Guessing based on a comparable apartment that took 18mths to sell.

  158. JC

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2769371, posted on July 21, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    Trump’s Twitter feed is gold mine for foreign spies

    Hillary’s server-in-the-bathroom was hacked by five intelligence agencies. Relying on Trump tweets would be a rude fall from grace for them all.

    That investigation was pit on ice. It’s like it never occurred.

  159. testpattern

    Why it’s important ASIO monitors people who attend Southern’s gigs

    ‘French security forces have prevented scores of attacks since January 2015. But this one was different. The AFO—the organization’s French acronym—is a far-right vigilante group with the stated mission to fight the “Islamic peril,” arguing that authorities have been too lax in combating terrorism and preventing radicalization. Its members intended to execute veiled women and imams and poison the food at halal grocery stores.’

    https://www.thenation.com/article/foiled-plot-execute-muslims-reveals-islamophobia-france/

  160. Any one who can possible avoid being conscripted against their will should do everything possible to avoid same.
    Trump is smart.
    Not all warriors fight in the front line. Others fight in a time and place of their choosing. Don John of America, the Last Knight of the West, has appeared in the nick of time.

    Yeah, the progs are just annoyed that Trump didn’t die on the battlefield.

  161. Mark A

    “Trump’s Twitter feed is gold mine for foreign spies”

    What a stupid notion, as if other president were silent all the time.
    It’s not how you communicate, you nitwit.

  162. JC

    Hey Stimson

    Was Mike Sandwich responsible for getting that director booted, you think?

  163. Mater

    Trump’s Twitter feed is gold mine for foreign spies
    ‘foreign intelligence agencies are utilizing President Trump’s tweets in numerous ways while building his personality profile

    Maybe they can just read his books.

  164. Mater

    Why it’s important ASIO monitors people who attend Southern’s gigs

    I agree. Identifying those hooded, violent thugs who are impinging on people’s rights, would be a worthy addition to their knowledge base.

  165. Makka

    I beleive in Indepedent central banks for the most part.

    I used to believe in fairy tales too.

  166. Tel

    I agree. Identifying those hooded, violent thugs who are impinging on people’s rights, would be a worthy addition to their knowledge base.

    I’m sure they already know them all, and indeed probably are somewhat in control of the leadership. You can’t sit there with a Twitter account directing people to break the law time and time again unless you have at least a wink and a nod from someone important.

  167. feelthebern

    Today I was meat-shamed.
    In Sydney’s inner west I thought I’d get my car cleaned.
    I popped upstairs in the complex to grab a feed.
    As I’m hoovering down an eggs benedict with a side of sauasages, a couple entered the cafe looking for a free seat.
    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.
    I now know how Nelson Mandela felt.

  168. calli

    Heel spurs are hell. Athletes can be particularly prone to them because of stress on the foot.

    I’m hardly an athlete (😄) but I got mine from spending days on end walking around rough building sites and nurseries in uncushioned boots in all weathers. And then I’d come home and walk around barefoot on hard tiled floors. Big mistake.

    The surgeon did some injections to relieve the pressure and after a while I was fine. That was in ‘01. I don’t know what the treatment might have been back in ‘68.

  169. JMH

    I’m sure they already know them all, and indeed probably are somewhat in control of the leadership. You can’t sit there with a Twitter account directing people to break the law time and time again unless you have at least a wink and a nod from someone important.

    Spot on, Tel. VicPol is now a corrupt player in party politics. Everyone stand up and salute the ruler-supremo, Denial (f/ken) Andrews. Victoria has fallen to the Gestapo.

  170. There’s something weird about the draft-dodger demographic complaining that Trump is a draft-dodger.

  171. Marcus

    So, who’s looking forward to Black Buffy?

  172. Tel

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    Should have waited until they found a table on the other side of the room and were about to sit down and shouted, “No! Further than that! Get all the way out.”

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    The latest “look at me” among Gen Snowflake, is to ask for an assurance that “No – one has ever eaten meat off this plate before, have they?”

  174. calli

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    It must be the new ‘Halal’ or ‘Kosher’.

    With a side of bad manners.

  175. JC

    Makka
    #2769388, posted on July 21, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    I beleive in Indepedent central banks for the most part.

    I used to believe in fairy tales too.

    They can’t be totally non-responsive to the politics of the moment in the conduct of monetary policy, but generally the western CBs are trusted by markets. If they weren’t, bond markets would reflect the risk of hyperinflation. That isn’t the case.

    One example that I can offer that was extremely suspect of political interference was the RBA just before the 07 election. The RBA raised interest rates very shortly before the election. A large number of people believe it was the RBA governor’s attempt to influence the election in favor of the Liars Party.

  176. Eyrie

    feelthebern, just smile at the eaters of grass. Show lots of teeth.

  177. Roger

    Just went to visit some elderly friends, “can you help us opt out?”. Sure!

    Your good deed for the day, rick.

  178. calli

    Or…

    They feared the temptation of your brekkie.

    You tempter, you!

  179. JMH

    Just went to visit some elderly friends, “can you help us opt out?”. Sure!

    I will be doing the same next week – and hopefully, the stupid thing doesn’t crash again.

  180. A Lurker

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    If that ‘somewhere else’ ended up being next to me, I would have had a loud conversation with my husband about how eating meat caused large brain development in early humans, and how so many young women have iron deficiency (being tired and listless all the time) because they don’t eat sufficient, or any red meat.

  181. Rossini

    Shit just watched 10 minutes! Chanel 10 news!
    Need to go back to garden shed and drown myself in round up!
    Cannot under stand how other half can watch it……………..

  182. Makka

    They can’t be totally non-responsive to the politics of the moment in the conduct of monetary policy, but generally the western CBs are trusted by markets

    Just because they are trusted by “markets ” does not confirm independence. All that signifies is they are easy to read and maybe communicate effectively.

    In today’s world, I am sceptical of anything being independent, especially the Fed which as a private entity is beholden to it’s ultimate owners.

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    feelthebern, just smile at the eaters of grass. Show lots of teeth.

    Ask if steak tartare is on the menu?

  184. Eyrie

    A lurker: Excessively wordy. How does it go? Scream and leap?

  185. Roger

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    Where someone else had just eaten meat.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Where someone else had just eaten meat.

    Tables, specifically designated for vegans…..

  187. C.L.

    Leaked email:

    Attn: Australian journalists.
    Subject: Lauren Southern
    From: JournoList

    1. Coverage of Southern’s Australian speaking tour and the violent responses to it should emphasise that the “two sides” are to blame. Police are there not to ‘protect’ Southern or control her detractors but to “separate” and “mediate” the “two sides.”
    2. It is preferable to call the people outside her venues “protesters” or “anti-fascist protesters.” Interviewees should preferably be Southern’s critics. Footage of arrests should preferably be of Southern supporters. Footage of bloodied or injured persons should preferably be anti-Southern protesters.
    3. Southern should be described as a “provocateur” or “the far-right provocateur.”

  188. They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    Dunno how those wallies will get on should they ever venture forth from Veganville.
    Here they’d not even be able to sit in the gutter outside.

  189. Roger

    Tables, specifically designated for vegans…..

    Very OCO vegans.

    Be a vego/vegan if you wish, but what’s with the fear of contamination thing?

    I suggest they try Govinda’s – great food & nice people…and no meat, ever!

  190. Tables, specifically designated for vegans…..

    It’s only a matter of time, Zulu. And that will only be the start.
    If you want a script, it will follow exactly the same trajectory as the anti smoking campaign.

  191. DrBeauGan

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    It’s good they declare their insanity.

  192. Boambee John

    Cactus

    Back after dinner.

    On the old thread, JC mentioned a market body which would provide a useful source on interest rates. I forget what it is, he might remind us?

  193. Sinclair Davidson

    See the Bombers fly up.

  194. Some History

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.

    The latest “look at me” among Gen Snowflake, is to ask for an assurance that “No – one has ever eaten meat off this plate before, have they?”
    —-
    Where someone else had just eaten meat.

    Thirdhand meat.

  195. JC

    Dunno how those wallies will get on should they ever venture forth from Veganville.
    Here they’d not even be able to sit in the gutter outside.

    That’s interesting, because if there’s was large market demand at the truck stop, you would refuse to serve those idiots vegan food. Is that right, Driller?

    There’s very little respect for markets by Boltrats and the low IQ’ers who show up here.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s only a matter of time, Zulu. And that will only be the start.
    If you want a script, it will follow exactly the same trajectory as the anti smoking campaign.

    I’ll bet good money on it, MV.

  197. mh

    Just tell them to go home and toss the salad.

    Monica and Bill style.

  198. feelthebern

    I looked at the AHRC website, unfortunately meat-shaming isn’t something they are interested in.

  199. C.L.

    On Southern, something funny happened on The Project last night when far-left provocateur Waleed Aly crossed to Southern’s event for an interview. The interviewee was (of course) a far left-wing ratbag. (See memo above). About 30 seconds into old mate’s diatribe he questioned why Southern should get a visa when “the racist Peter Dutton” was shutting out “refugees.” Then … screen freeze. Suddenly, mysteriously, the feed was lost. Aly – presumably being given advice through his ear-piece – quickly distanced The Project (that is, the Ten network) from the actionable utterance.

  200. Geriatric Mayfly

    A rather disparate group of us had come together to cross the Simpson. Breakfast at Dalhousie Springs a pleasant and routine affair, until one female piped up that she could not prepare her fare in a pan which had just been used for cooking snags and bacon. All the sands of the Simpson were eventually employed to scarify the offending utensil and the metal was stripped of the lingering stain.

  201. Bruce in WA

    Jeebus, GM — I would have just let her go hungry. You’re far too kind.

  202. JC

    On the old thread, JC mentioned a market body which would provide a useful source on interest rates. I forget what it is, he might remind us?

    Boambee, a few years ago, during and after the GFC, there were very interesting discussions about the conduct of monetary policy during the crisis. The one economist who came out on top and really made a difference on this subject was Scott Sumner, a Chicago school trained professor. He came up with the proposition that the GFC was caused by the central banks and interest rate targeting was the primary cause of the downturn.

    In order to avoid this problem going forward, Sumner suggested that CB’s should give up interest rate targeting and move towards nominal GDP targeting, which incidentally was initially raised by Hayek in the latter part of his life. Hayek suggested CBs should target income. Income and GDP are close to the same thing.

    Sumner suggested we do away with interest targeting and have the CBs target expected NGDP derived from a futures market. Interest rates would be set by the markets.

    In my opinion, although we haven’t got to his idea, the large CBs seem to be looking at NGDP much more than they were and monetary policy guidance has taken the front seat. We”re not there, but we could see something like Sumner’s proposal over the next few decades. It moves at snails pace…

  203. None

    As I noted earlier people do not fall out of 11 story apartment Windows it seems it was to rival African gangs and another Airbnb this time ending in death. Moments before the libellous Waleed Aly had claimed the only person who thought there was a problem with African gangs is Peter Dutton or something.

  204. I looked at the AHRC website, unfortunately meat-shaming
    isn’t something they are interested in.

    And if you had checked 25 years ago, smoke-shaming wasn’t something they were interested in.
    Now that plastic shopping bags have been outlawed, the effort will be on expanding the anti-sugar campaign. Once that is firmly implemented, the full force will descend on meat.

    Meanwhile, the issue will be kept simmering. Already the ABC online “news” has at least two or three anti-meat articles a week.

  205. JC

    I can’t think of a single restaurant we go to where there isn’t a vegetarian main course or two on the menu. We have a number of friends who are vegetarian and they don’t push their choice on others. Restaurants are business and dutifully respond to market changes. Serena doesn’t or claims not to because.. the market and consumer wants/ signals will of course bend to her.

  206. feelthebern

    One of the busiest places on Norton street is a Vegan cafe.
    Good on them.
    I wonder why the couple didn’t go there.
    I don’t plan on going there and mushroom shaming anyone.

  207. Boambee John

    JC

    Thanks.

    Not sure I fully understand all of it, but it has to be an improvement.

  208. Mater

    Let’s try this with a news.com article:

    Attn: Australian journalists.
    Subject: Lauren Southern
    From: JournoList

    1. Coverage of Southern’s Australian speaking tour and the violent responses to it should emphasise that the “two sides” are to blame. Police are there not to ‘protect’ Southern or control her detractors but to “separate” and “mediate” the “two sides.”

    “It is disappointing that we had to use significant resources to mediate between two groups with opposing views,” said Commander Tim Hansen. “Their actions put their lives, the lives of the public and the lives of police officers at risk.”

    2. It is preferable to call the people outside her venues “protesters” or “anti-fascist protesters.” Interviewees should preferably be Southern’s critics. Footage of arrests should preferably be of Southern supporters. Footage of bloodied or injured persons should preferably be anti-Southern protesters.

    A PROTESTER screaming “I love Muslims!” rushed the stage at far-right commentator Lauren Southern’s Melbourne event and was bundled off by security.

    Right-wing activist Neil Erikson filmed protesters before being hauled away from police. He and two other men are charged with affray and riot over an incident outside an event by controversial commentator Milo Yiannopoulos last year.

    3. Southern should be described as a “provocateur” or “the far-right provocateur.”

    Victoria Police is reportedly charging the Canadian provocateur than $67,000 for their presence at the event.

    Ms Southern was expected to cause trouble, with the alt-right YouTube star making headlines since she touched down in Australia

    What d’ya know, it works!

  209. JC

    We went to this place a short while ago and ordered this dish:-

    Truffle & parmesan tart, celeriac, leek, hazelnut $48

    because I didn’t feel like seafood or meat. It was vegetarian and must say it was absolutely delicious.

  210. Eyrie

    JC, I think Serena means the customers are overwhelmingly carnivores.

  211. JC

    boambee

    Long story short is the belief that CBs are fallible. They can’t nor should be expected to hit the right spot with interest rate policy all the time and when they fuck up, they can really fuck up royally sending the economy into a tailspin.

  212. feelthebern

    JC they wreck the suckling pig with that anchovies sauce.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    because I didn’t feel like seafood or meat. It was vegetarian and must say it was absolutely delicious.

    Gay.

  214. Pedro the Ignorant

    $48 for a plateful of veggies?

    Good Lord.

  215. Marcus

    Liverpool FC are goi lng to challenge for the premier league title this year. They just signed the Brazilian national goal keeper Allisson. Missing piece.

    Great news, but to be fair to Loris Karius I think he actually played that Champions League final with a concussion.

    It’d still be hard for him to show his face around town, though.

  216. Eyrie

    JC, I think Serena means the customers are overwhelmingly carnivores.

  217. JC

    It’s not gay, it’s eating a variety of foods, Artiste. I can’t eat meat and fish all the time.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    He came up with the proposition that the GFC was caused by the central banks and interest rate targeting was the primary cause of the downturn.

    JC – That’s rubbish. The GFC was just a classic panic like all the other ones. Recovery was slower because Obama was Prez, and his policies were toxic to business, who were cautious to invest since no project made the cut due to red tape and lefty crap. Then Obamacare hit and massacred the animal spirits through the 30 hr/week limit, the 50 employee limit and sky-high premium hikes hitting consumers. Who then had no money to spend. Small businesses battened down and stayed small.

    When the sheep stampede for the exit there’s nothing the Fed can really do. Lowering interest rates is futile since the banks won’t lend to SMEs and if they do they lend at high rates – 9 or 10% no matter what Libor is. They know the risks of default in a recession.

    Pushing on the string doesn’t do a great deal except enrich the financial types. Does little for the real economy.

    CBs targeting NGDP is pretty futile too since NGDP is policy linked. The Fed can’t make Congress pass economy friendly laws therefore QE won’t do anything real.

  219. wivenhoe

    See the Bombers fly up.

    Good luck with that call, Mr Doomlord.

  220. JC

    Eyrie
    #2769440, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    JC, I think Serena means the customers are overwhelmingly carnivores.

    I don’t think so :-). I bet if she introduced a decent veg dish she’d get takers. Not her though. She reckons they will end up in the gutter. She’s like the fucker in Faulty Towers. So annoying.

  221. feelthebern

    The GFC had nothing to do with Obama.

  222. Some History

    They eyed the free table next to me but then said “oh he’s eating meat. We’ll sit somewhere else”.
    The latest “look at me” among Gen Snowflake, is to ask for an assurance that “No – one has ever eaten meat off this plate before, have they?”
    —-
    Where someone else had just eaten meat.

    Thirdhand meat.

    https://imgur.com/YJcxMtL

  223. feelthebern

    When I was in Hawaii a couple of trips back, there was this place that had such good eggs, I had six of them.
    Ate there 3 times.
    Eggs and this Japanese style bread I can’t remebrr the name of that was.
    Meat made the breakfast bad.

  224. Infidel Tiger

    Wow. This is coming out party.

    Next someone will renounce bacon.

  225. feelthebern

    Shokupan was the jap bread.

  226. Gary

    JC, he’s like the fucker in Faulty Towers. So annoying.

    Fixed.

    but in a good way sometimes.

  227. feelthebern

    Bacon is the king of meats.
    Followed by steak.
    Followed by roast pork with gravy.

  228. Mitch M.

    Mitch if you are going to quote from the New York Times, the appropriate thing to do is make it clear you have made a quote (e.g. blockquote tag or those old fashioned quote marks) and also attribute a link.

    I didn’t draw it from the NYTimes, it is from other sources which either NYT copied or they copied. Stop being a grammar Nazi. As to your claims of being an expert on bone spurs take a hike. You’re simply reaching for the convenient etiology to justify Trump’s claims. Face it, 4 deferments than conveniently develops bone spurs and you believe that tripe? Where are the x rays, where is the doctor’s report? No prior condition, no evidence of being injury induced, and when was the last athlete you heard of developing bone spurs? Has he developed bone spurs since then?
    I don’t care. He cheats at golf. That’s impeachable.

  229. feelthebern

    Prawns are the king of the ocean.
    Followed by Balmain bugs.
    Followed by coral trout.

  230. See the Bombers fly up.

    This gets posted a lot.
    Does Since live beside an airbase or something?

  231. C.L.

    We have a number of friends who are vegetarian.

    Dude.

  232. feelthebern

    No rich kids went to Vietnam.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    $48 for a plateful of veggies?
    Good Lord.

    If the truffle was the real McCoy, one half of one split hair of the black fungus would escalate the bill considerably.

  234. Makka

    Followed by Balmain bugs.

    I remember when bugs were thrown back as “shit fish”. Couldn’t sell them.

  235. wivenhoe

    Shokupan was the jap bread.

    You read it wrong, It really said, Shock ur pants.

  236. feelthebern

    Balmain bugs are fucking awesome

  237. JC

    JC – That’s rubbish. The GFC was just a classic panic like all the other ones. Recovery was slower because Obama was Prez, and his policies were toxic to business, who were cautious to invest since no project made the cut due to red tape and lefty crap. Then Obamacare hit and massacred the animal spirits through the 30 hr/week limit, the 50 employee limit and sky-high premium hikes hitting consumers. Who then had no money to spend. Small businesses battened down and stayed small.

    The reasons for the GFC are not rubbish. It’s fact. The CBs royally fucked up as they misunderstood the reasons why commodity prices were rising. They saw it as inflation, when in fact it was a change in relative prices as a result of additional demand from the developing world. Not only did the CBs totally misunderstand the period before the GFC, they also totally fucked up the response, which was slow and unresponsive to very fast drop in income.

    As for the rest- the Kenyan slowing the recovery.. well that’s true. He did, but he never really gave a shit about economic growth. The left no longer do and actually look at it with hostility.

    But let me ask you, Bruce. Isn’t a panic a sudden slowdown in economic activity?

    When the sheep stampede for the exit there’s nothing the Fed can really do. Lowering interest rates is futile since the banks won’t lend to SMEs and if they do they lend at high rates – 9 or 10% no matter what Libor is. They know the risks of default in a recession.

    Lowering interests by 25 basis points every month when the economy is cratering is responsive?. It also doesn’t help to offer hawkish guidance with a 25 basis point cut, which is what those morons did. In fact guidance alone caused monetary tightening!

    Pushing on the string doesn’t do a great deal except enrich the financial types. Does little for the real economy.

    Pushing on a strong is the Keynesian term to suggest zero interest rates is the end of the road. It’s not, because there’s QE that can be used to increase the money supply and counter the deflationary pull in the economy. QE is the defacto tool to use when rates reach zero. Pushing on a string is total 100% bullshit because the CB can target any level of inflation it wants in a fiat regime. Let me repeat, a Central is able to target the inflation level it wants at any time!

    CBs targeting NGDP is pretty futile too since NGDP is policy linked.

    You need to explain this.

    The Fed can’t make Congress pass economy friendly laws therefore QE won’t do anything real.

    The CB is the main driver to get an economy out of recession because a recession is by definition the result of monetary policy mismanagement.

  238. Makka

    Sorry bern, don’t agree on bugs. They are way overrated and ridiculously priced for what they are. Tasteless, unless spiced and flavoured up and often tough. But to each his own for sure.

    I’m with you on the prawns and coral trout, though I’ve caught and eaten Red Emperor that was the best fish flesh I’ve eaten. Not enough though.

  239. candy

    But, if you have a compliant doctor and pay him well no doubt bone spurs can be described as a life-threatening condition.

    Rae, you probably know it’s called a disqualification from joining the Military, not a life threatening condition.
    lol. a little Trump hate showing, unless you personally know men who bribe GPs.

    In fact there’s lots of seemingly minor conditions that disqualify. I think because of service overseas and a person being apart from their medication and it can’t be risked?

  240. Farmer Gez

    Bacon is the king of meats.
    Followed by steak.
    Followed by roast pork with gravy.

    A good leg of lamb beats the lot. Any of the above list you would be keen to eat cold the next day?

  241. JC

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2769457, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    $48 for a plateful of veggies?
    Good Lord.

    If the truffle was the real McCoy, one half of one split hair of the black fungus would escalate the bill considerably.

    lol That’s why I had it. The truffle was voluminous 🙂 I love truffle.

    Artiste

    STFU. it’s a very heterosexual dish.

  242. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A good leg of lamb beats the lot. Any of the above list you would be keen to eat cold the next day?

    The eating of sheep is a disgusting and deplorable habit, which will damn your soul forever. There is no redemption.

  243. John Constantine

    “But veganism is more than diet. It’s a political, philosophical, and ethical position. One of the most recognised animal rights advocates in Australia is the Nobel Prize Laureate South African-born writer, J.M. Coetzee, who has declared he is not an “animal lover” so much as a seeker of justice:”

    “The adoption of a plant-based diet short of this committed understanding is a welcome choice from a vegan point of view, but it’s not necessarily veganism”

    Wymynsys agonise over diets and social status and exclusion.

    The vegan diet is just another way to recruit people to totalitarian socialism, and it is proving a revolutionary success where organics failed.

    https://neighbourhoodpaper.com/issues/fear-vegan-planet-australia-third-fastest-growing-vegan-market-world-approaching-tipping-point/

    Nothing about free market forces, just wymynsys being bullied and offered the chance to control others through bullying.

    The absolutely panic stricken terror of and about food felt by so many wymynsys can only be solved when the State decides our rations and supplies us for Free.

    http://www.unleashed.org.au/community/forum/topic.php?t=10985

  244. Roger

    A good leg of lamb beats the lot.

    +1

    I’ve seen pigs drink their own urine, for goodness’ sake.

    A lamb is a righteous sacrifice.

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