Open Forum: July 21, 2018

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  1. JC

    Red Emperor that was the best fish flesh I’ve eaten. Not enough though.

    Red E is the best fish around I reckon. It’s the best by far.

  2. rickw

    Victoria Police is reportedly charging the Canadian provocateur than $67,000 for their presence at the event.

    Want to get paid?

    Do you’re fucking job.

    No private security company would get paid on the performance that the turds in blue put in.

  3. Balmain bugs are fucking awesome

    Smaller, weaker, inferior cousin to the Moreton Bay Bug.

  4. John Constantine

    “Thousands of people around the world have watched this wonderful young girl come to the realisation that animals don’t belong on plates.”

    [ and we must have a global totalitarian dystopia, where State death squads crush all free thought.]

    http://www.unleashed.org.au/blog/2016-09/I-WONT-EAT-ANIMALS

  5. Bruce in WA

    Red E is the best fish around I reckon. It’s the best by far.

    Baldchin groper/bluebone any day of the week.

    Followed by WA jewie.

  6. rickw

    Victoriastan, first time I’ve been grocery shopping here for some time, Government approved produce on the shelves, at least at the moment they seemed to be well stocked, horrifically expensive, then I am forced to carry the produce home in a surplus cardboard box like some peasant.

  7. Bruce in WA

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    But it would have been acceptable if I had called it “dhuie”? (dhufish)

  8. Infidel Tiger

    I just had a vegetarian terrine and then waxed my balls.

  9. DrBeauGan

    I approve of vegetarianism. It will bring the price of meat down.

  10. calli

    Or a j-wfish, Bruce.

    Mmmmm.

  11. Entropy

    Prawns are the king of the ocean.
    Followed by Balmain bugs.

    Filter feeders. Just say no.

  12. Some History

    ORTHOREXIA
    Although not formally recognized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, awareness about orthorexia is on the rise. The term ‘orthorexia’ was coined in 1998 and means an obsession with proper or ‘healthful’ eating. Although being aware of and concerned with the nutritional quality of the food you eat isn’t a problem in and of itself, people with orthorexia become so fixated on so-called ‘healthy eating’ that they actually damage their own well-being.
    Without formal diagnostic criteria, it’s difficult to get an estimate on precisely how many people have orthorexia, and whether it’s a stand-alone eating disorder, a type of existing eating disorders like anorexia, or a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Studies have shown that many individuals with orthorexia also have obsessive-compulsive disorder.

    https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/learn/by-eating-disorder/other/orthorexia

  13. Farmer Gez

    Truffles?
    Fresh picked paddock mushies fried with butter/salt/pepper are hard to beat. Shop bought varieties never get the same depth of flavour. Always avoided what we called Tree mushrooms, big but tasteless.

  14. JC

    As long as you moisturised after , you should be fine artiste.

  15. But it would have been acceptable if I had called it “dhuie”? (dhufish)

    Bruce, in the new Manglish, “fish” is spelled “ghoti”.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    J-wfish and Dhufish are completely different fish.

    J-wfish is an average eastern seaboard meh fish.

    Dhufish is superb. Almost as good as Baldchin Groper.

  17. John Constantine

    ““But Vegetarianism,” say the Socialists, “is a snare and delusion, because the adoption of food-thrift by the working classes would bring with it a further depression of wages, with the result that the whole advantage would go to the Capitalist.”

    That was before new wave vegynsyms wymynsys. Being vegan is no longer about food thrift and making do like the poorest of the worlds meatless peasants, it is about godless commo wymynsys vegans eating the most expensive meals at the most expensive and exclusive places, and overthrowing capitalism as they do it.

    http://www.henrysalt.co.uk/bibliography/essays/socialists-and-vegetarians

    The girls picked upon by crazed wymynsys activist vegynsys because meat is ‘an avoidable error’ in a socialist’s diet will conform or be crushed.

    Comrades.

  18. Makka

    The reasons for the GFC are not rubbish. It’s fact. The CBs royally fucked up as they misunderstood the reasons why commodity prices were rising.

    When the banks, pension funds and other financial institutions are choked with complex unmanageable derivatives that while going up performed fantastic but when going down detonated balance sheets, you must ask yourself why and how these instruments came into being. It was a huge multi-billion $ scam.

    And when the inevitable happened and the tanking toxic derivative owners tried to bail out of their billions, panic set it and fundamental trust in the financial system temporarily evaporated. Lending stopped. The mechanism that valued banks – their shares- collapsed because the derivative implosion, much of it off books, sent confidence through the floor because nobody knew the true value of the institution. It wasn’t until the FASB changed it’s ruling on how derivatives would be valued- marked to make believe – that the world financial system stabilised. That was the initial phase of the GFC.

    How did these derivatives come into being? De-regulation of the banking industry; something all banksters hate to admit. JC will argue until he is blue in the face on this but the scumbags on Wall St in collusion with the corrupt US legislature (with lot’s of help from Secretary Rubin) brought forth the legislation enabling the genesis of the GFC.

    Deregulation
    In 1999, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. The repeal allowed banks to use deposits to invest in derivatives. Bank lobbyists said they needed this change to compete with foreign firms. They promised to only invest in low-risk securities to protect their customers.

    The following year, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act exempted credit default swaps and other derivatives from regulations. This federal legislation overruled the state laws that had formerly prohibited this from gambling. It specifically exempted trading in energy derivatives.

    Who wrote and advocated for passage of both bills? Texas Senator Phil Gramm, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. He listened to lobbyists from energy company, Enron. His wife, who had formerly held the post of Chairwoman of the Commodities Future Trading Commission, was an Enron board member. Enron was a major contributor to Senator Gramm’s campaigns. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers also lobbied for the bill’s passage.

    Enron wanted to engage in derivatives trading using its online futures exchanges. Enron argued that foreign derivatives exchanges were giving overseas firms an unfair competitive advantage.

    Big banks had the resources to become sophisticated at the use of these complicated derivatives. The banks with the most complicated financial products made the most money. That enabled them to buy out smaller, safer banks. By 2008, many of these major banks became too big to fail.

    https://www.thebalance.com/what-caused-2008-global-financial-crisis-3306176

  19. calli

    Wow. What am I missing out on. You sandgropers have all the good stuff.

  20. areff

    Balmain bugs are fucking awesome

    and mud crabs

  21. stackja

    Makka
    #2769488, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Dutch did tip toe through the tulips.

  22. You sandgropers have all the good stuff.

    WA, from about Geraldton on down, has the best seafood in the world.

  23. Makka

    and mud crabs

    Oh yeah. Hard to beat, on fresh UNsliced bread, lots of butter and a cold XXXX. Heaven!

  24. JC

    Makka

    Zero Hedge bullshit explanations for the GFC have been refuted here before. Look at the back pages and pages of refutations , as it’s too boring to go through again.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://freefromharm.org/animal-cruelty-investigation/pigs-transport-trucks/

    “completed a degree in Buddhist studies.” That should help no end in gaining employment, shouldn’t it?

  26. John Constantine

    https://freefromharm.org/common-justifications-for-eating-animals/vegan-dogs-and-cats/

    “Ethical vegans hope and work for a world in which some day no animals are considered property, no animals are born or bred into captivity, and no animals are domesticated or unfree. A belief in animal liberation is thus not compatible with a belief in the continued institution of “pet” ownership. We absolutely have an obligation to rescue, adopt and care for animals for as long as these victims of domestication exist, but a truly liberated world will be one in which no animals have their liberties denied, and none are owned.Our goal must be one of total liberation”

    Comrades.

  27. on fresh UNsliced bread, lots of butter and a cold XXXX. Heaven!

    You eat great food, but contaminate your taste buds with XXXX?
    I guess it really does take all kinds.

  28. Geriatric Mayfly

    Well that was quick. The moment this discussion started there was a blanket vegan curse issued from HQ on all carnivorous Cats. First victim, yours truly. Why me?? Sit down to a few slices from a haunch of roast beef and trimmings, and the f***ing top comes off the salt cellar. Everything smothered and poisoned. Beware ye predators.

  29. C.L.

    Victoria Police is reportedly charging the Canadian provocateur than $67,000 for their presence at the event.

    How much did they charge to frame Cardinal Pell?

  30. Makka

    Makka

    Zero Hedge bullshit explanations for the GFC have been refuted here before. Look at the back pages and pages of refutations , as it’s too boring to go through again.

    Like I said, JC will blame anyone but his precious banksters and Wall St assorted arseholes. They caused the GFC.

    The problem was the Fed actually didn’t have a fkg clue what those derivatives would do or how big the derivative pool was , so when they raised interest rates, as they have done many many times before without triggering a financial melt down of these proportions, the derivatives imploded. The derivatives were like mines sitting inside bank balance sheets.

    Only a complete idiot would claim that the derivatives and those who created and enabled them were NOT the root cause of the GFC.

    Here, I’ll post it again;

    The financial crisis was primarily caused by deregulation in the financial industry. That permitted banks to engage in hedge fund trading with derivatives. Banks then demanded more mortgages to support the profitable sale of these derivatives. They created interest-only loans that became affordable to subprime borrowers.

    In 2004, the Federal Reserve raised the fed funds rate just as the interest rates on these new mortgages reset. Housing prices started falling as supply outpaced demand. That trapped homeowners who couldn’t afford the payments, but couldn’t sell their house. When the values of the derivatives crumbled, banks stopped lending to each other. That created the financial crisis that led to the Great Recession.

    Clear enough?

  31. John Constantine

    The way to snare wymynsys voteherds is through Diet.

    Low Fat Cruelty Free Happy veganism is all well and good until young activist girls can’t focus on the discipline needed to keep all required nutrients and traces up, and then spiral into nutrient deficient wasteawayland.

    Then her hip smashes as she hops down off the footpath, smashes like chalk and smashes at forty.

    Comrades.

    Very nearly child abuse to drive girls sick with worry and fretfulness over their diets.

    Also noting that the turnfailure has floated the thoughtbubble of requiring all schoolchildren to be regularly weighed [ for their health].

  32. Percy Popinjay

    Is this thing on?

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hey Stimson
    Was Mike Sandwich responsible for getting that director booted, you think?

    Of course he was.
    Cernovich is Gorilla Mindset.
    I told you this would happen.
    I am like an expert unpaid unqualified media analyst/journalist/mentally ill fortuneteller.
    And my bald head is the crystal ball.

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Thousands rally in support of refugees

    Australian Associated Press
    7:21PM July 21, 2018

    Protests have been held across Australia to mark five years since the federal government reintroduced the policy of offshore processing for asylum seekers arriving by boat.

    Thousands of people rallied around the country with large crowds stopping traffic in both Sydney and Melbourne.

    Protesters on Saturday demanded that refugees still languishing on Nauru and Papua New Guinea’s Manus Island be brought to Australia immediately.

    They held placards stating: “Close Manus, close Nauru, bring them here.”

    A statement was read out from Kurdish refugee Behrouz Boochani who’s been on Manus for five years.

    “Many innocent people on Manus and Nauru are still suffering,” he said.

    “Too many Australians are still indifferent to this or too unsure of what to do.

    “But you make us stronger. We watch you raise your voices in the Australian streets and feel your presence here with us.”

    From the Oz. How much were they invoiced for a police presence?

  35. John Constantine

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/school-kids-height-weight-measured-plan-tackle-obesity-000701006.html

    “The Turnbull Government is considering a plan to have every Australian primary school student’s height and weight recorded in a bid to tackle the country’s obesity crisis, ”

    Maybe the cakes and chips and donuts and lollies and bikkies and slices and not moving much might be more chubbying than a few chops?.

  36. Boambee John

    JC
    #2769435, posted on July 21, 2018 at 7:33 pm
    boambee

    Long story short is the belief that CBs are fallible. They can’t nor should be expected to hit the right spot with interest rate policy all the time and when they fuck up, they can really fuck up royally sending the economy into a tailspin.

    Indeed, no one is perfect.

    However, when the CBs screw up, the responsible individuals generally do not suffer. The advantage I see with what you describe is that there is skin in the game. Get it wrong, take a financial hit.

  37. stackja

    Police investigating 19-year-old woman’s death at A’Beckett Street apartment
    Brianna Travers and David Hurley, Herald Sun
    July 21, 2018 6:29pm
    Subscriber only
    EXCLUSIVE: A young woman killed when a high-rise dispute turned deadly in Melbourne’s CBD has been remembered as a quiet person who was the rock of her family.

    Laa Chol died after an early morning row broke out between two groups of African Australians in a short-stay apartment building in A’Beckett St.

    Homicide Squad detectives have launched an investigation following the death of the 19-year-old and seized CCTV from the EQ Tower.

    One neighbour told the Sunday Herald Sun she heard “horrendous” screams from inside the building, but said she didn’t call police because such noises were a regular occurrence in the complex.

    “It (the screaming) went on for about 20 minutes,” she said.

    “You couldn’t hear anything but this horrendous screaming, but it’s not unusual coming from this building.

    “So much goes on in the building in the middle of the night with people drunk, it’s pretty awful.

    “When the screaming continued down the street, I just thought they were drunk.

    “They were shouting and screaming and the girl’s scream was incredibly loud … just screeching.”

    Kenyatta Dei Wal and Ahmed Hassan, leaders of Melbourne’s South Sudanese community said in a statement: “This is a tragic incident that has cut a young persons life short. The community is deeply shocked.”

  38. “Too many Australians are still indifferent to this or too unsure of what to do.

    Who cares?

  39. Percy Popinjay

    MV is in da ‘oose!

  40. H B Bear

    See the Bombers fly up.

    Took ’em long enough. Most of the game resembled a bunch of cross-dressing lezzo leaguers.

  41. MV is in da ‘oose!

    Not any more.
    MV has episodes of Sweeney and Minder to watch.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2769477, posted on July 21, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    I just had a vegetarian terrine and then waxed my balls.

    That’s all I’d use vegetarian terrine for too.

  43. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fresh picked paddock mushies fried with butter/salt/pepper are hard to beat. Shop bought varieties never get the same depth of flavour. Always avoided what we called Tree mushrooms, big but tasteless.
    You have activated the craving Farmer Gez. Haven’t had that gastronomical pleasure for years. Grandmother always warned never to pick mushrooms growing close to trees or dead timber. Because of their size they were very tempting, but allowing her advice to go unheeded always had perilous consequences.

  44. Percy Popinjay

    MV – then it’s a good thing “we don’t matter”, so to speak.

    Take care, you ol’ curmudgeon.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    See the Bombers fly up.

    Took ’em long enough. Most of the game resembled a bunch of cross-dressing lezzo leaguers.

    Didn’t see it but sounded like they couldn’t buy a goal.
    13:31 is atrocious in dry conditions.

  46. H B Bear

    Good call on the baldchin groper IT. Top fish. Could almost justify the cost of a 22 foot centre console by itself.

  47. Tel

    Like I said, JC will blame anyone but his precious banksters and Wall St assorted arseholes. They caused the GFC.

    President Franklin Delano “Alphabet Soup” Roosevelt caused the GFC when he started GNMA.

  48. H B Bear

    The Freo Shockers drag the opposition down to their level. Always [email protected] Saw Lyon’s presser – carried on like a pork chop as usual. What an utter c()ckhead.

  49. H B Bear

    LL – half the ALPFL can’t kick. It was embarrassing to watch.

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MV has episodes of Sweeney and Minder to watch.

    “Minder” was never the same after Dennis Waterman left.

  51. DrBeauGan

    I’ve just had my Chinese ubereats delivered by a bloke riding a Kawasaki ninja. I thought that was nicely multiculti, and told Spiky, who trumped it by saying she had her Japanese food delivered last night by a Muslim woman wearing a burqa.

  52. Percy Popinjay

    Saw Lyon’s presser – What an utter c()ckhead

  53. Frank

    Important new talk from the University of Cambridge –
    Feminism Meets Economics.

    Thanks for that. Really, thank you.

  54. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thanks for that. Really, thank you.

    No problem Frank.
    After all, Economics is the reason why we are all here.

  55. BorisG

    she had her Japanese food delivered last night by a Muslim woman wearing a burqa.

    The funniest burqa wearing woman I saw was in Paris CDG airport with a bag with Paris Fashion Show written on it.

  56. stackja

    VFL too many behinds?

  57. BorisG

    I think that on your metrics crime is high risk low reward.

    Maybe in that case. But think of some typical professional criminal, say a mid-level drug importer. With one successful shipment he can become a millionaire. Good reward. also high risks. He can be caught or killed by rivals.

    Of course this does not apply to those at the bottom of the chain, the junkies who break into homes to buy drugs, or those selling drugs on the street.

  58. Steve trickler

    Check out the girl standing with the chap with the yellow hat. (:

    There are times in life when you should put your phone down and just soak up everything going on around you.

    Not her though.



  59. BorisG

    The financial crisis was primarily caused by deregulation in the financial industry.

    and these people call themselves right wing. Hilarious.

  60. Geriatric Mayfly

    The funniest burqa wearing woman I saw was in Paris CDG airport with a bag with Paris Fashion Show written on it.

    The best I witnessed was four of them, fully bagged in black, disembarking from a chauffeured Roller at Harrod’s (side entrance.) Fragrant they were too, enveloped as I was in all the perfumes of Arabia.

  61. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zero Hedge bullshit explanations for the GFC have been refuted here before.

    JC – The GFC was a panic like all these panics.

    List of recessions in the United States

    That’s a lot of panics.

    Ok I admit the Fed seems to have more success in the last half century in limiting panics and maximizing the time between recessions.

    But the principle is the same. The boom runs up asset prices under some impetus. That may be tulips, nickel, dotcoms, leveraged financial engineering (BS & Lehman) or whatever.

    The cause of the boom is different every time but the arc of the cycle is the same.

    When the market turns the sheep bail, liquidity dries up and no one wants to catch the falling knife. Margin investors go bust. PEs drop from highs to low single figures. Businesses batten down, fire employees who then can’t buy stuff and you have a demand trough. None of this has anything to do with central banks.

    CBs can help pick up the pieces, but they can’t make government adopt business friendly policies which let businesses invest capital. If there’s nothing worth investing in you don’t get much of a recovery, even if the Fed makes the rate so low that project financial hurdles are easier to reach.

    In the US since the GFC most low interest borrowing for “investment” by companies has been to buy back their own shares. That’s not a vote of confidence in the strength of the recovery.

    Then Trump cut corporate taxes…

  62. calli

    Lol, Stimps.

    “Why aren’t more people doing this?”, Putin masked Dildo Man asks.

    Because we aren’t all insane weirdos like you.

  63. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The funniest burqa wearing woman I saw was in Paris CDG airport with a bag with Paris Fashion Show written on it.

    Used to make me laugh on the leg between Dubai and Amsterdam, or Heathrow, back in the day. All the black letterboxes diving into the loo to emerge dressed in the height of (revealing) fashion, with the process reversed on the approach to Dubai.

  64. calli

    He owns a ramen bar.

    I bet it’s Vegan.

  65. H B Bear

    Donny’s latest bimbo has a really bad set of fake cans … so I’m told.

  66. old bloke

    BorisG
    #2769537, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    The funniest burqa wearing woman I saw was in Paris CDG airport with a bag with Paris Fashion Show written on it.

    The funniest burqua wearing woman I saw recently was at Hungry Jacks. I ordered my meal at the drive through and was asked to wait in one of the parking bays as they prepared my order.

    A few minutes later a lady wearing a brightly coloured burqua came out with my meal, it had all the colours of the rainbow and a few more too.

    I commented on her brightly coloured burqua and she said….

    “The burquas are better at Hungry Jacks”

  67. BorisG

    All the black letterboxes diving into the loo to emerge dressed in the height of (revealing) fashion, with the process reversed on the approach to Dubai.

    interesting. was it in First Class?

  68. BorisG

    “The burquas are better at Hungry Jacks”

    that does sound hilarious.

  69. DrBeauGan

    “The burquas are better at Hungry Jacks”

    This, I do not believe.

  70. C.L.

    Important new talk from the University of Cambridge –
    Feminism Meets Economics.

    Lovely figure.

  71. rickw

    Fragrant they were too, enveloped as I was in all the perfumes of Arabia.

    Tons of cheap perfume with an underlying whiff of goat has never really been my thing.

    (Once I was in a hotel in Al Ain, UAE, the letter box emerged from the lift, ripped the top half of the letterbox off and swaggered past me, very friendly I thought!)

  72. JC

    Bruce

    Australia has had almost 30 years without a recession and we’ve had some decent bumps. Your theory of periodic recessions doesn’t work. Recessions of the nature we saw with the GFC can only be monetary mismanagement .

  73. Bruce in WA

    J-wfish and Dhufish are completely different fish.

    When I was much younger, say 50 years ago, it was always “J_wfish” in WA, said to be named after the early explorers used the otoliths — which resembled mother of pearl — to make joolery. Hence, originally, “j_welfish”.

    Of course, that was waaaaacist, and the more PC “dhufish” was then adopted by the great unwashed.

    But I still see “J_wie” occasionally in fish ‘n’ chips shops — and from the price, believe me they’re not referring to the Eastern states “mother-in-law” fish!

    But a quick look at the references for it tell a different story:

    Glaucosoma hebraicum, the Westralian j_wfish, West Australian dhufish or West Australian pearl perch, is a species of fish in the family Glaucosomatidae, the pearl perches.

    Is “hebraicum” any clue as to what the name was originally?

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    interesting. was it in First Class?

    Business class, KLM.

  75. feelthebern

    Imagine the lip numbers gives every non white person who delivers Uber eats to his home.
    He didn’t much like non white people did he.

  76. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tons of cheap perfume with an underlying whiff of goat has never really been my thing.

    I have a nose for perfume rickw, dunno why. But some of it drives me wild. I understand some women actually complement the perfume they wear. I was by accident quite close to this bevy of Muslimas, and remember well the Roller door being opened and a katabatic blast of scented vapours making their escape. The goat perfume base was totally muffled, praise Allah.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tons of cheap perfume with an underlying whiff of goat has never really been my thing.

    I’m remembering the experience of being stuck, between floors, in a lift in Kuala Lumpar, with a bevy of the burqua clad faithful, on a hot day. The smell of goat became quite pronounced..

  78. Steve trickler

    Excellent work.



  79. Elle

    Steve trickler, excellent work, indeed. Do you enjoy the occasional mind altering substance? Your clips blow my mind! Amazing! Thank you.

  80. Bruce in WA

    Considering we have more than a few outdoor/shooter types on here, I offer up the following short safety video:

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking for Western Australian Cats – Alicia’s Restaurant and Winery , up in the Julimar, does some pretty damnfine Bavarian style food, and a pretty damnfine red.

  82. Elle

    If it makes you happy … it can’t be that bad!

    https://youtu.be/Xl2H5ba7-8c

  83. slackster

    http://careers.pageuppeople.com/513/cw/en/job/579516/lecturersenior-lecturer-physical-biosciences-female-only-position

    “”The Female-only requirement is a lawful special measure under section 12 of the Equal Opportunity Act and section 7D of the Sexual Discrimination Act””

    Australia is a shithole

  84. ev425128

    Steve trickler
    #2769567, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    Thanks Steve. That was visually awesome (I was listening to Threshold of a Dream while watching). It’s a reminder that the IPCC certainty and the 2 degree target of Paris is absolute nonsense. How can they have a handle on global climate when we have no clue when it comes to the fluid dynamics of clouds?

  85. Steve trickler

    Elle
    #2769570, posted on July 21, 2018 at 10:04 pm
    Steve trickler, excellent work, indeed. Do you enjoy the occasional mind altering substance? Your clips blow my mind! Amazing! Thank you.

    Hello again.

    Alcohol is the substance. And i am having a sip…..right now.

    Enjoy the short flight. A good view from the pointy end of the aircraft.



  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Days of old, and days gone by, and rock classics of long ago..

  87. Mark A

    None
    #2769019, posted on July 21, 2018 at 9:43 am

    The Saturday Telegraph can today reveal the ACTU this week agreed to a plan to push for an inheritance tax, which was abolished in Australia almost 40 years ago.

    “An inheritance tax on the wealthiest estates can restore fairness to our tax system and ensure the very wealthy and big business pay tax,” an ACTU spokesman told The Saturday Telegraph.

    They just handed Turnbull the election. Death taxes literally killed people and made them homeless. Like farmers and farm families. If the Labor party had any sense they’d cut all tiesto the union movement bu they won’t. Remember unionists who represent (cough) about 10% of workers (so maybe 5% of Australians) determine Labor party policy, not Labor party or the people. Fascists.

    I’m afraid, you are wrong there None.
    This is just about the only aspect that I’m not concerned about re. the Labor party and trade unions.

    You see, the Labor party was specifically created as the political wing of the Aust. trade union movement.

    Despite the fact that shysters, spivs, chancers and lawyers infiltrated the party and parliament, nothing changed.
    The Labor party is still owned and controlled by the various trade unions, rightly so in my opinion, the own it and pay for it.
    If people want an other social democratic party, then they can start one, or easier still, join the Liberals.

  88. JC

    JC – The GFC was a panic like all these panics.

    Bruce, I have no idea what you mean by panic, but it sure looks like you’re confusing sudden market movements (panics) and recessions. These aren’t the same thing.

    Take the most famous panic – the 1929 crash. There was absolutely no reason that crash had to turn into a depression. The 1987 crash was a panic that didn’t immediately manifest into a recession.

    Ok I admit the Fed seems to have more success in the last half century in limiting panics and maximizing the time between recessions.

    No, the fed has caused every single recession by tightening monetary policy until the economy tips over. The degree depends on how observant it is.

    But the principle is the same. The boom runs up asset prices under some impetus. That may be tulips, nickel, dotcoms, leveraged financial engineering (BS & Lehman) or whatever.

    If that is the case then Australia should have experienced a real estate crash in the GFC – much more than the US. That’s because we were more stretched. But we didn’t.

    When the market turns the sheep bail, liquidity dries up and no one wants to catch the falling knife. Margin investors go bust. PEs drop from highs to low single figures. Businesses batten down, fire employees who then can’t buy stuff and you have a demand trough. None of this has anything to do with central banks.

    What you’re doing is describing a crash (panic) which is NOT a recession. Those events occur quite frequently, but it doesn’t cause the real estate market in Idaho to keel over.

    CBs can help pick up the pieces, but they can’t make government adopt business friendly policies which let businesses invest capital. If there’s nothing worth investing in you don’t get much of a recovery, even if the Fed makes the rate so low that project financial hurdles are easier to reach.

    Do you think an inverted yield curve would cause people to fear going forward with investment decisions?

    In the US since the GFC most low interest borrowing for “investment” by companies has been to buy back their own shares. That’s not a vote of confidence in the strength of the recovery.

    Of course it is. Don’t take my word for it. Take Warren’s. If firms believed the economic future was bleak they wouldn’t be borrowing but hunkering down and preserving capital or not borrowing. Buyback’s a form of dividends and nothing else.

  89. Elle

    Thank you, Steve. I enjoyed that. I am so freaked out by the landing. It leaves me hyperventilating. Apart from Queensland NZ, I can’t think of a more terrifying landing.

  90. Steve trickler

    Following the show, Giraffe.

    Cheers.

  91. Gab

    LOL, Arky, nice touch with the grilled tomatoes and gherkin! No wonder it tasted horrible. Noticed the black and whites tiles early on and wondered if you were doing the refit in the kitchen?! Then the final shot, ah, not in the kitchen.

    Good video. Keep ’em coming.

  92. JC

    Like I said, JC will blame anyone but his precious banksters and Wall St assorted arseholes. They caused the GFC.
    The problem was the Fed actually didn’t have a fkg clue what those derivatives would do or how big the derivative pool was , so when they raised interest rates, as they have done many many times before without triggering a financial melt down of these proportions, the derivatives imploded. The derivatives were like mines sitting inside bank balance sheets.
    Only a complete idiot would claim that the derivatives and those who created and enabled them were NOT the root cause of the GFC.
    Here, I’ll post it again;

    Clear enough?

    It sure is clear enough. You’re too pig headed and narrow minded to consider other points of view.
    The derivatives crash we saw at the beginning of the GFC was caused by credit drying up. Have you bothered to ask why credit became more expensive? That’s first base. Explain why.

  93. Death Giraffe

    Just starting to realise how big a job this is.
    An “Oh Shit” moment when I put what is left of the roof on.

  94. Elle

    *Queenstown not Queensland.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Saturday Telegraph can today reveal the ACTU this week agreed to a plan to push for an inheritance tax, which was abolished in Australia almost 40 years ago.

    Jo Bejeke Peterson (spelling?) was the first State Premier to abolish “death duties” and money poured into Queensland, as a result.

  96. BorisG

    Guys haven’t it been established that the root cause of GFC was unsustainable subprime lending to thr poor encouraged by both Clinton and Bush administrations ?

  97. Elle

    *my favorite Fleetwood Mac song.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha, my favorite.

    My compliments, Elle, and thank you. I hadn’t heard that song for some time.

  99. DrBeauGan

    BorisG
    #2769600, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:04 pm
    Guys haven’t it been established that the root cause of GFC was unsustainable subprime lending to thr poor encouraged by both Clinton and Bush administrations ?

    And spread to both sides of the Atlantic by badly calculated derivatives.

  100. The Labor party is still owned and controlled by the various trade unions, rightly so in my opinion, the own it and pay for it.

    Almost spot on, Mark. However, the only time there is a “Labor Party” is when an election is in the offing. The rest of the time it is a motley collection of mutually exclusive union groups stabbing each in the back for control. The unions cross this spectrum of interests. They spent the eleven years of Howard in the wilderness because the factional spats made them unelectable. Then they elevated a non-aligned nonentity to the throne, and we all know how that turned out. Ultimately Labor Right ascended – but only just – which is why they have struggled ever since.

    The Libs fell into the same bickering rabble, and so in 2009 they made their own nonentity Grand Poobah. Abbott in turn was displaced by Turdbull, as the Wets rose to ascendancy. There are few dries left in the Liberal Parliament, they are nearly all wets.

    Meanwhile Labor Left has once again grabbed the upper hand, with the recent election of Wayne Swan as Party President. Stand by now for Albosleazy – of the Left – to replace Shortfilth of the Labor Right, before the next election.

  101. Bruce in WA

    Spot of spacechooking for Western Australian Cats – Alicia’s Restaurant and Winery , up in the Julimar, does some pretty damnfine Bavarian style food, and a pretty damnfine red.

    Thanks, mate … we’ll give it a whirl.

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    F$cking Gold.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) – almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client – totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks, mate … we’ll give it a whirl.

    Make a booking, first, though.

  104. Confused Old Misfit

    F$cking Gold.

    Would be F$cking Platinum if he’d ditch Sessions.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks, mate … we’ll give it a whirl.

    For lunch in the Swan Valley – we do this once a week or so – I’d recommend Sitellas, Jane’s Estate or Chapel Farm/Hill. All fairly laid back…the bogans are beginning to discover the Swan Valley, so, if there’s a tour bus parked outside, we do a reconnoiter before deciding on lunch.

    Some of the vineyards in Margret River don’t accept bus tours, others ask a charge for tasting, refundable if you buy their wine, so the bogans don’t go home and buy off the Internet….F.M.S.

  106. JC

    Guys haven’t it been established that the root cause of GFC was unsustainable subprime lending to thr poor encouraged by both Clinton and Bush administrations ?

    Not really. Cleaning up the sub-prime mess would have meant a shallow recession in the US and localized real estate markets, where sub-prime lending was focused should have fallen. However, the entire US real estate market fell by a minimum in 20%.

    Credit became very expensive and it was almost impossible to borrow between the banks because they couldn’t lend to each other. Moreover the crisis expanded into a western Atlantic crisis also due to the hamfisted monetary policy from the ECB.

    It’s wrong to look at the GFC as one crisis. There was the sub-prime, the collapse in economic activity in both the US and Europe, then a banking crisis is Europe as well as the US and then a shake down in the European sovereign bond markets. In other words it was one abortion after the other.

    I think it was in Sept 08 when Lehman collapsed. Lehman bros. fell in the early to the middle part of the month, but there was little reaction in the stock markets as soon as it fell. The collapse in asset prices came later in the month when it became clear to the markets, from Fed guidance, that the CB was going to continue being tightfisted. It was then we saw markets falling over the cliff.

    I cannot understand how on a right wing, market friendly site, people discount the possibility there was any government failure. The GFC was one large example of government failure. Even the Sub prime can be market down to government failure as a result of the US government pushing the banks to lend to minorities (the end of redlining). I’m speechless.

  107. Dave in Marybrook

    Boris and the Doctor-
    sub-prime lending not encouraged by Clinton, but quotas legislated and enforced.

  108. Bruce in WA

    For lunch in the Swan Valley – we do this once a week or so – I’d recommend Sitellas, Jane’s Estate or Chapel Farm/Hill.

    Jane Brook is our favourite — we were there yesterday for lunch. Try to go once a fortnight.

  109. JC

    sub-prime lending not encouraged by Clinton,

    You can damn well bet your net worth it was. I even recall the exact moment too, as I was watching Greenspan’s testimony to Congress on TV at work. Greenspan was asked specifically if banks were discriminatory in their lending practices.. ie redlining. And he answered they were. Out of that came fed supervision that the banks were no longer blocking minorities from the lending market. It was that exact moment when I thought US banks should no longer be considered to have pristine balance sheets.

  110. Old School Conservative

    Tahs win in a withering second half comeback!
    Played badly in the 1st half, giving fans conniptions.

  111. BorisG

    JC, Dave says it was not merely encouraged. Read his commment.

  112. BorisG

    Not really. Cleaning up the sub-prime mess would have meant a shallow recession in the US and localized real estate markets, where sub-prime lending was focused should have fallen.

    And then there was a domino effect…

  113. JC

    Jeez lord, this is one of the best but worst pieces I’ve ever read. What happens to the bodies of murder victims and how their families cope. They don’t.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/body-of-evidence-dealing-with-the-trauma-of-homicide/news-story/973ead2116613b7ebad6b38f7eb0e615

    It seems that the coroner has the brain of the deceased removed from body and possibly in almost every autopsy. How shocking.

  114. Monty, serious question.
    Has your Soros Merch handbag turned up in the mail yet?
    All the cool kids in Budapest have them.

    I am disappoint.

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    I f$cking love Ted Cruz now.

    Ted Cruz
    @tedcruz

    US Senate candidate, TX
    Wow. These #JamesGunn tweets are just horrible. Child rape is no laughing matter. As Texas SG, I handled far too many child sexual assaults. Truly evil. I’m glad Disney fired him, but if these tweets are true, he needs to be prosecuted.

  116. Gab

    That was magical, Steve T. Never seen anything like it! Thanks for posting it.

  117. None

    Oh wow. Put that on the bucket list. Thanks Steve.

  118. None

    The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!

    Trump is almost better than Iowahawk. Amost.

  119. Cactus

    Feel the Bern on a hierarchy of seafood.

    I agree with much of your thinking but you didnt state 1) King Georg Whiting or 2) Red Emperor

  120. None

    Even the Sub prime can be market down to government failure as a result of the US government pushing the banks to lend to minorities (the end of redlining). I’m speechless.

    Huh? Isn’t that what was asserted (except I wouldn’t say it was Clinton and Bush but Carter and Clinton; oh yeah the Kenyan was also apparently involved in a famous legal precedent regarding sub prime lending although he was just a junior paper shuffler I believe or just another communidee organizerrrr)

  121. Steve trickler

    Greetings, Gab and None.

    One more before bedtime.



  122. Mark A

    An insanely huge gun for an insane time.
    The Heavy Gustav.
    What were they thinking of?

  123. Mark A

    Re. pictures.

    Kelley Lucas got it right,
    “If you think you’re so much smarter than Trump, Always remember: He is a billionaire president and you’re sitting at a computer throwing tantrums.

    And that goes for at least 60% for all successful people in the world, they got where they are because of drive and ability.
    The other 40 odd %? God only knows.

  124. Mark A

    Mark A
    #2769639, posted on July 22, 2018 at 5:18 am

    PS, By successful people I didn’t mean politicians, although some were.

  125. Mark A

    I don’t know who got smote, but if it was nemcat, then it was only a minor loss/irritant to griggsy, a new puppet will emerge soon.

    Cut at the roots if you want to remove a noxious weed. Mild application of a greeny approved weedkiller won’t do the job.

  126. None

    Steve, that lightning vid is very clever. Thanks.

  127. Herodotus

    Oh dear. Gargoolery still here and offering up his googliferous info on bone spurs. The neighbourhood’s not quite reformed yet’ with Montblank and Boorus still faffing around.

  128. Herodotus

    It being Sunday, perhaps some contemplation of the chaos we find the world in can be imbued with something more intellectual than Monty’s obsession with illicit affairs and their supposed legal implications.
    So here for those inclined is amshort analysis of Gerard Manly Hopkins’ poem “That nature is a Heraclitean fire and of the comfort of the ressurrection”.

  129. calli

    Miranda Devine has a piece in today’s Tele on Lush Cosmetics. Worth a read, but paywalled.

    They’ve just been pinged for underpaying their employees to the tune of millions (Di Natale come on down) but are yuuuuge donators to Get Up!

    Why am I not surprised?

  130. stackja

    The ‘Silver Sirens’ – Australia’s 20 richest women and they’re all cashed up and single
    ANNETTE SHARP, The Sunday Telegraph
    July 22, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    SMOOTH-browed, impeccably connected and groomed to within an inch of their lives, these are the Silver Sirens: the glamorous women of a certain age with hard-won experience and discretion to match.

    Most of them got their money from men.

  131. calli

    What a crop, Tom. Hard to pick the best.

    Gipper redux

    Vogue.

  132. Entropy

    Who are they stack? I don’t have a sub

  133. calli

    I didn’t know that poem, Hero. In all the years of study and reading for pleasure, I had never come across it. Thanks for posting.

    In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
    I am all at once what Christ is, | since he was what I am, and
    This Jack, joke, poor potsherd, | patch, matchwood, immortal diamond,
    Is immortal diamond.

    Good stuff. I told youse all I plan to live forever. 🙂

  134. stackja

    Shocking cost of Australians addicted to social media at work revealed in new study
    Lanai Scarr, Senior Writer, News Corp Australia Network
    July 22, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    EXCLUSIVE

    AUSTRALIAN workers are costing the economy and their employers billions of dollars each year in lost productivity due to an addiction to smartphones and social media.

    News Corp Australia can reveal the first research that shows the extent to which adults say they are checking their social media and smartphones during working hours.

    A third of Aussies say they “regularly get distracted by their smartphone or social media at work” with 42 per cent checking it up to seven times a day during working hours.

    A further 5.2 per cent admit to being distracted by their device more than 15 times a day.

    Of those checking their phone or social media at work, 92 per cent are spending up to 90 minutes of work time scrolling their feed or replying to messages.

    Research has shown for every period of distraction, it takes a further 23-minutes to return to the same level of concentration. So 90 minutes of self-reported social media scrolling could actually amount to more than that in lost productivity.

    A total of 52 per cent of all employees who admitted to checking their phone during work hours said if they were happier in their jobs they’d be less likely to be digitally distracted.

    More than 1000 Australians aged 18 and over in all states and territories were surveyed for the research, conducted last month.

  135. stackja

    Longman by-election: ReachTEL poll indicates LNP will win
    Daryl Passmore & Michael Wray, The Sunday Mail (Qld)
    an hour ago

    THE Turnbull Government is on track to win Saturday’s crucial Longman by-election, with local voters accepting LNP candidate Trevor Ruthenberg’s false military medal claim was just a mistake.

    An exclusive ReachTEL poll for The Sunday Mail shows the LNP netting 51 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote to Labor’s 49 per cent ahead of the final week of campaigning before the poll.

    Mr Ruthenberg’s chances threatened to be derailed last week after revelations he had claimed he was awarded an Australian Service Medal rather than the lesser Australian Defence Medal.

    But today’s poll suggests “Big Trev” has survived, reviving Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s hopes of snatching the seat from Labor.

  136. calli

    Steve trickler at 12:58

    Beautiful. It goes with Hero’s poem somehow.

  137. stackja

    ALP finalises plot to put Queensland Deputy Premier Jackie Trad into a safer seat
    Peter Cameron, The Sunday Mail (Qld)
    July 22, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    LABOR bosses are finalising a plot to switch Deputy Premier Jackie Trad to a safer seat and replace her in South Brisbane with a sports star or celebrity.

    The secret strategy has ­selected Labor seats of Bundamba, held by Jo-Ann Miller, and Peter Russo’s Toohey as potential parachute targets for Ms Trad, who won on LNP preferences last November on a 36 per cent primary vote.

    Ms Trad has gained confidence as treasurer on rising coal receipts, and left-wing unions are desperate to preserve her Cabinet status and influence.

  138. stackja

    Colonial row between Portugal and Spain caused dividing line in Australia
    Ben Graham, news.com.au
    July 22, 2018 6:34am

    WHEN white Europeans first landed in Australia, they encountered a land that was so intimidatingly large they couldn’t even begin to think about dividing it up.

    And, if you’ve ever stared quizzically at a map of our massive nation, you’ll have noticed how straight and strongly defined our state’s borders are when you compare them with many other countries.

    But, if you delve into why these lines ever came about, you’ll find some surprising reasons behind them.

    It was the British who created the first land boundary on Australian soil in 1786 — at the western border of NSW with South Australia.

    And if you look a bit further north, to the border of Papua New Guinea and West Papua, you’ll notice the dividing lines are perfectly aligned with those in Australia.

  139. Mater

    with local voters accepting LNP candidate Trevor Ruthenberg’s false military medal claim was just a mistake.

    This seems just. Whilst the ALP would like to associate this bloke with a growing group of really reprehensible ‘pretenders’, I don’t think his situation fits. Put simply:

    He never wore a medal he wasn’t entitled to.

    There are two common medals:
    The Australian Service Medal, and
    The Australian Defence Medal.

    On his website, he wrote Service rather than Defence. That is, he essentially mixed up two words.
    When referring to these medals, this mix up is common amongst veterans – especially for those who served before the Defence Medal came into being.
    He didn’t claim to go anywhere he hasn’t, didn’t wear a medal he hadn’t earned and isn’t claiming his service was anything more than it was.
    A simple typo, and quite a common one.

  140. stackja

    Prime Minister to see the good and bad of desert community today
    GARY SHIPWAY, EXCLUSIVE, NT News
    July 22, 2018 1:46am

    PRIME Minister Malcolm Turnbull said he will take the opportunity to have a good close look around Tennant Creek and see first-hand the good and the bad during his two-day visit to the town starting today.

    And he has promised that anyone who wants to have a chat will have that opportunity as he gets “right around the community.”

    Mr Turnbull told the Sunday Territorian on Saturday that while there are planned meetings, there is plenty of casual time that will be spent speaking with Tennant residents about the things that are important to them and to hear their thoughts and ideas for their community.

    “I will have the opportunity to look around the community in a relaxed and unofficial manner,” he said.

    The Prime Minister, who is only the second PM to ever stop and stay in Tennant Creek, said he will be based in the remote desert township for his two days in the NT.

    He revealed an extensive list of people from the troubled township he will be meeting with.

    First up will be the town’s Mayor Steve Edgington.

  141. Farmer Gez

    with local voters accepting LNP candidate Trevor Ruthenberg’s false military medal claim was just a mistake.

    The ABC were all over this, TV and radio.
    You’d think they’d be more sympathetic to claiming things not honestly earned.
    Pay checks, for instance.

  142. Eyrie

    Mrs Eyrie just came up with the term for extreme vegans pushing their mental illness on everybody –
    the VEGANG.

  143. stackja

    Entropy
    #2769660, posted on July 22, 2018 at 7:53 am
    Who are they stack? I don’t have a sub

    Some from list:

    GINA RINEHART, 64
    HELOISE PRATT, 55
    Chair of the Pratt Foundation, Visy cardboard packaging heiress and director, co-founder and shareholder of Thorney Investments, philanthropist
    JUDITH NEILSON, 70
    Art gallery proprietor, property investor, arts patron, ex-wife of Australian funds manager, Kerr Neilson
    GRETEL PACKER, 52
    ROSLYN PACKER, 80
    JOY CHAMBERS-GRUNDY, 71
    Widow of television pioneer Reg Grundy, Chair of RG Capital Holdings, novelist
    KATRINA “KAT” FOX, 54
    Co-Chair of Fox Family Foundation, daughter of Linfox trucking magnate Lindsay Fox, Linfox marketing and publicity boss
    Net worth: $500m stake in her father’s fortune
    ERICA PACKER, 40
    Former model and recording artist, ex-wife of casino mogul James Packer

  144. DrBeauGan

    So all of them got their start from husbands or fathers.

  145. Peter Castieau

    A quick check of the rain gauge this morning shows just how hopeless rainfall readings from BOM are here in Perth.
    I’m 14 kms north of the CBD and had 32mm. The official metro reading was 16mm! Swanbourne on the coast and level with the CBD (well almost) had 34mm. Bickley (the dam catchment area) had 45mm

    http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/flood/swan_avon.shtml

  146. stackja

    calli
    #2769653, posted on July 22, 2018 at 7:33 am

    THERE would scarcely be a company more adept at left-wing virtue signalling than soap purveyor Lush Cosmetics.

    As one of GetUp’s biggest donors, Lush is all for open borders, climate action, refugees, LBTIQ equality and Guantanamo Bay inmates, and against coal, cops, greyhound racing and Israel.

    But when it comes to paying their employees what they’re owed, the cosmetics giant doesn’t practice the social justice it so sanctimoniously preaches.

    Last week Lush admitted it had underpaid 5000 Australian workers more than $2 million, with some staff $10,000 out of pocket.

    Lush Australia director Peta Granger said it was an accident. “It goes against everything we value and believe in.”

    You’d think corporate social responsibility starts with decent wages.

    But it seems Lush was too busy with GetUp.

    At a 2016 conference in Sydney, Granger said Lush’s partnership with GetUp was made possible by the “aligned values” of her staff.

    “For Lush this starts at the recruitment process which I guess is in a way a reverse kind of discrimination, but we might just keep that a little bit quiet…”

    In other words, Christians, Joos, conservatives, need not apply. Great values.

  147. stackja

    DrBeauGan
    #2769675, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:33 am
    So all of them got their start from husbands or fathers.

    Yes! But keep it quiet!

  148. Rae

    The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!

    Trump is almost better than Iowahawk. Amost.

    The PGiC is now channeling Nicolae Ceaușescu.

  149. Senile Old Guy

    ABC:

    One of those asylum seekers, Imran Mohammad, wrote in The Saturday Paper last week about finally feeling like he had found a place to call home in Chicago, after we had turned our collective backs to him, a happy outcome that only jars more because he has found it in Donald Trump’s America, a country that suddenly feels strange and inexplicable to us in the choice it has made of a president.

    Remember that these people are illegal immigrants, not “asylum seekers”. The ABC has deleted “illegal immigrant” from their dictionary. And the “strange and inexplicable” is only so to the interminably left wing ABC.

  150. stackja

    Peter Castieau
    #2769677, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:34 am

    BOM gauges sited for any reason? Or has Perth landscape been changed by developers? I know Sydney has been changed by over-development.

  151. H B Bear

    Peter – Perth rainfall has always been patchy, have a look at the radar and see what that looks like. I’m more or less inland from Swanbourne and I reckon a third of that rainfall could have come from a single 5 minute cloudburst just prior to lunchtime. BOM records for yesterday show 20mm in 20 minutes around 11AM. It was dumping it down.

    BOM is dodgy but automated rainfall readings aren’t the problem.

  152. stackja

    Footy fans in melee after final siren at Geelong v Melbourne game
    Genevieve Alison, Sunday Herald Sun
    July 21, 2018 11:40pm
    Subscriber only

    A VIOLENT brawl broke out between warring footy fans following last night’s clash between Melbourne and Geelong.

    Video has emerged of more than a dozen men kicking, punching and throwing each other to the ground in the standing area of Kardinia Park in Geelong.

    Footage shows a man wearing a Cats scarf stomping on another man who is pinned down, while a Demons fan is seen falling head first onto the concrete steps.

    The melee lasts for almost 45 seconds before other members of the crowd pull the men off each other and a security guard tends to a Melbourne fan lying on the ground.

    About a dozen police officers can later be seen evicting several members of the crowd.

  153. H B Bear

    ALPBC now re-printing Teh J3wish Vanity presss? Shut it down and save $1.1bn a year.

    If you want to talk to real refugees Ol’ Leathery normally has a couple on his couch as they were cast out by collapsing Fauxfacts and sought the charity of Teh Grauniad to put crumbs on the table. I think he also provides charity to an unemployable photo j’ismist too.

  154. stackja

    James Campbell: Pollsters rethink as TV viewers switch off
    James Campbell, Herald Sun
    July 18, 2018 8:00pm
    Subscriber only

    EARLIER this week, the Herald Sun’s Cameron Adams drew attention to the collapse of the free-to-air television audience, pointing out that it is now more than two months since a program that wasn’t news, sport or a royal wedding drew a million viewers in Australia’s capital cities.

    The acceleration in the drop in networks’ ratings over the past two years, as more and more people migrate to online streaming services on their TVs, phones and tablets, shows the internet is finally causing the same disruption to that industry that newspapers and the music industry have been living through for the past decade.

    The problem for the TV networks isn’t just that their audiences are shrinking but the people they are left with, as a pollster pointed out to me this week, are “older and more likely to live in regional areas or the outer suburbs — basically those who can’t afford anything except free-to-air”.

    The pollster was discussing the impact these changes in viewing habits are having on politics and the chance that any political ad is going to cut through to voters in the same way they have in the past.

    The decline in engagement with free-to-air TV is coming on top of a long-term decline in engagement with political issues that the pollster has observed over more than a decade in the industry.

    “There is less and less awareness about the basis of any issue than there was when I started. You’ve got to give people two or three pieces of the jigsaw before they can see what you are trying to get at,” he observed.

  155. calli

    Thanks, Stacks.

    Now I know why I gag every time I pass one of their stinky stores. It’s the odour of bigotry.

  156. pete m

    Actually Trump claiming he did nothing wrong may be correct on a legality basis but morally he remains a creep. Such a shame too as I’m enjoying his trolling of lefties.

  157. Elle

    Calli, I’m about to watch Insiders. Will see if there are any fishnet wearing leftists. Need a strong cuppa to get through it. Too early for an alcoholic beverage. The coffee is brewing.

  158. Peter Castieau

    stackja,

    I seem to recall that the metro gauge was once in Kings Park, and has now been relocated to Mt Lawley. Perhaps a more meaningful reading would be the average of all gauges?

  159. EvilElvis

    A quick check of the rain gauge this morning shows just how hopeless rainfall readings from BOM are here in Perth.

    Obviously you’re using a non state sanctioned gauge, Peter. Please switch it from ‘reality’ to ‘virtuous’ or ‘alarmist’ or desist from using it. Sneakers McGowan will have the BOM squad around otherwise.

  160. mh

    I had one of the many ABC news radio stations on this morning. Bad move. First story was about farming. Not like an Alan Jones farming story where farmers are shooting livestock because of drought, this story focused on women taking over traditional male roles on the land. Next story, Wikipedia.. oh I wonder what what this story is about? Yep, you guessed it, women. Apparently the Wikipedia pages are updated by white males from Europe and North America, and there needs to be more wimmin involved in keeping Wikipedia updated.

    Shut.It.Down.
    Fire Them All.

  161. Boambee John

    Peter Castieau
    #2769698, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:58 am
    stackja,

    I seem to recall that the metro gauge was once in Kings Park, and has now been relocated to Mt Lawley. Perhaps a more meaningful reading would be the average of all gauges?

    Just needs a bit of homogenisation!

  162. Geriatric Mayfly

    CARACAS (Reuters) – Dead palm trees and a dried-up lagoon are what you see when you enter Caracas’s botanical garden. A UNESCO World Heritage site and once one of the city’s most important tourist spots, its directors are trying to rescue it from abandonment.

    No living thing is safe when Socialists are on the rampage. Even the plants are copping the full brunt of the equalidy in Venezuela. Meanwhile down at the zoo…

  163. JC;

    Sumner suggested that CB’s should give up interest rate targeting and move towards nominal GDP targeting,

    Can you explain why GDP targeting would be a better form of monetary policy? Just something simple, please.
    I’ve always been a bit sus about interest rate targets – interest rates are a price signal, why would one fiddle with those?

  164. Clam Chowdah

    So all of them got their start from husbands or fathers.

    Gina R played the key role in transforming her father’s business into the behemoth it is today. So, unlike the men and women who may inherit and rest on their laurels, she hasn’t sat idle. Give her that.

  165. mh

    Elle
    #2769695, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:55 am
    Calli, I’m about to watch Insiders.

    Put the remote down. Now step away from the television.

  166. zyconoclast

    Wow. What am I missing out on. You sandgropers have all the good stuff.

    Including Great White Pointers?

  167. stackja

    Peter Castieau
    #2769698, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:58 am
    stackja,

    I seem to recall that the metro gauge was once in Kings Park, and has now been relocated to Mt Lawley. Perhaps a more meaningful reading would be the average of all gauges?

    For many years a rain gauge was sited at Saint Ignatius’ College Riverview, Tambourine Bay Road, Lane Cove NSW. Now no longer listed by BOM.

  168. Elle

    mh, haha. It’s not as painful as Q&A, as there is no audience mindlessly clapping.

  169. Entropy

    To be fair, Stacka and Dr BG, Gina Rinehart might have started out with a fairly decent pile from Dad, but she has certainly made it a lot, lot bigger. I am pretty sure the next gen will squander it all though.

  170. miltonf

    The secret strategy has ­selected Labor seats of Bundamba, held by Jo-Ann Miller, and Peter Russo’s Toohey as potential parachute targets for Ms Trad, who won on LNP preferences last November on a 36 per cent primary vote.

    The uniparty in action.

  171. miltonf

    To be fair, Stacka and Dr BG, Gina Rinehart might have started out with a fairly decent pile from Dad, but she has certainly made it a lot, lot bigger. I am pretty sure the next gen will squander it all though.

    Agree Gina R’s a pretty impressive individual which explains why the FMIC has tried to make her a hate figure.

  172. Peter Campion

    Labor candidate being interviewed by Ol’ Leathery refers to adjustments in numbers of nurses in Campbell Newman’s time as “atrocities”.

    These idiots are the Humpty Dumptys of our time.

  173. Elle

    I did boycott Insiders for a while after they ditched Piers Ackerman, but enjoy seeing Rowan Dean and Ross Cameron’s take on the show on Outsiders.

  174. Gab

    Humpty Dumpty had a higher IQ.

  175. will

    DrBeauGan
    #2769603, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:12 pm
    BorisG
    #2769600, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:04 pm
    Guys haven’t it been established that the root cause of GFC was unsustainable subprime lending to thr poor encouraged by both Clinton and Bush administrations ?

    And spread to both sides of the Atlantic by badly calculated derivatives.

    Not encouraged, but mandated by the Community Reinvestment Act.

  176. Peter Castieau

    Barrie just interviewed Jim Chalmers and Eric Abetz. Both for 5 mins 15 seconds.

    No interruptions!

  177. Geriatric Mayfly

    She controls important numbers for Bill Shorten, but questions are being asked about the method used to get union boss Diana Asmar re-elected.

    Another star witness from the Trade Union Royal Commission. Weaving her devious arts in the witness box, turning obfuscation into award winning theatre.

  178. None

    Gina R. Started out with massive debt inherited from dad which she paid off and then she made her fortune. People really do not give her the credit for what she has achieved.

  179. Peter Campion

    Ol’ Leathery presumes to know what “young people on the right” think.

    FMD…

  180. Tel

    The secret strategy has ­selected Labor seats of Bundamba, held by Jo-Ann Miller, and Peter Russo’s Toohey as potential parachute targets for Ms Trad, who won on LNP preferences last November on a 36 per cent primary vote.

    The uniparty in action.

    They both recognize that Pea Hon’s brand of forthright populism is a great danger to their standard operating procedure of doing everything in the back room and telling the Australian people they are too stupid to understand. Thus, the preference wagons go into a circle when needed.

  181. Gary

    pete m
    #2769694, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:54 am
    Actually Trump claiming he did nothing wrong may be correct on a legality basis but morally he remains a creep. Such a shame too as I’m enjoying his trolling of lefties.

    I agree, Trump is a product of the culture that his critics created so the irony is amusing.

  182. Rae

    DrBeauGan #2769603, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    BorisG #2769600, posted on July 21, 2018 at 11:04 pm
    Guys haven’t it been established that the root cause of GFC was unsustainable subprime lending to thr poor encouraged by both Clinton and Bush administrations ?

    And spread to both sides of the Atlantic by badly calculated derivatives.

    Not encouraged, but mandated by the Community Reinvestment Act.

    Encouraged is the right word (prominently used in your linked article). The requirement to eschew “redlining” applied only to those banks receiving FDIC insurance and also required them to operate:

    in a manner consistent with safe and sound operation as per Section 802(b) and Section 804(1)

    Creating the derivatives and on-selling them resulted in the Ponzi that caused the world-wide financial crisis that crystallized in late 2008.

  183. Tel

    There are two common medals:
    The Australian Service Medal, and
    The Australian Defence Medal.

    On his website, he wrote Service rather than Defence. That is, he essentially mixed up two words.
    When referring to these medals, this mix up is common amongst veterans – especially for those who served before the Defence Medal came into being.

    To make things more confusing, the Australian Defence Medal is awarded after a certain number of years of service. Go figure. I’m sure it makes sense to someone.

  184. H B Bear

    Gina R. Started out with massive debt inherited from dad which she paid off and then she made her fortune. People really do not give her the credit for what she has achieved.

    Lang really was a bit of an old duffer. Always had plenty of cashflow – when I did a brief stint at Tom Price in the mid 80s they said every train was worth $350k in royalties to Hancock and I think they sent three a day to the coast – God knows how many go today.

  185. Entropy

    H B Bear
    #2769685, posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:42 am
    Peter – Perth rainfall has always been patchy, have a look at the radar and see what that looks like. I’m more or less inland from Swanbourne and I reckon a third of that rainfall could have come from a single 5 minute cloudburst just prior to lunchtime. BOM records for yesterday show 20mm in 20 minutes around 11AM. It was dumping it down

    Australia has a highly variable rainfall, which is why you almost never see confidence intervals in any long range forecasts of future rainfall in climate models. Because the models can’t cope with present variability and any statistical analysis would not support the breathless headlines.

    But I digress. For actual observations, the variability for rainfall even between neighbouring met stations an be quite considerable. you can have a cloud burst, or rain follows a narrow strip rather than g,eneral rain. This is even more pronounced in elmnino years like it looks like we are about to have. Storm rain, rather than general rain. Less of a driver for sand gropers of course.

    Anyway, for modelling purposes (eg. Average Australian temperature or rainfall, future Temperatures etc) and account for this variability BoM and other forecasters use modelling called interpolation, which sets the land up in a five km grid with each grid point averaged to its nearest neighbours. Observation points feed into this interpolated grid. Obviously, the cost nnection to reality for this averaging process varies according to how many real observation points. Less of a problem in highly settled areas, but imagine what it is like in regional and remote areas. In central parts of Australia, there can be a hundred kms or more between met stations. Where the rainfall and temperatures are even more variable than they are in a place like Perth.

    So, interpolation is intended to address this issue, But it’s efficacy declines as the number of close by met stations decline. Also the location of The remaining met stations can be an issue. Radars for example, do not seem to be located in places to maximise their usefulness for land use. And then there is the perennial argument of bushes that the original site of met stations, particularly in remote areas, generally was ofTen where it rains! Might be truth in it, the more favoured areas got settled first, but who knows. The thing is, does BoM see this as a problem? No. ‘Cause models.
    In fact, in remote areas like SW Qld it has been closing met stations at the same time it invests more in modelling, so there is hardly any official met stations in an area as larger than Victoria. BoM management is keen on emphasising an expansion of services, and less so on being a depositary of actual data. It is hard to blame them. There is not much money in data collection. Not very sexy.
    Modelling on the over hand, and its output attracts media attention.

    NSW and WA state government recently have funded new radars and met stations to make up for the gap. This is appalling, as it lets BoM off the hook, it is shifting the cost of its core business onto state governments so it can go and play games with models.

  186. Farmer Gez

    I’m 14 kms north of the CBD and had 32mm. The official metro reading was 16mm! Swanbourne on the coast and level with the CBD (well almost) had 34mm. Bickley (the dam catchment area) had 45mm

    I’d be happy with any of those totals. Northern Vic is very dry. The droughts usually start in Western NSW and drift south. Some chance in the next week for 10-15 mm but we’ve only had 140 mm for the year.

  187. Stimpson J. Cat

    Uwe Boll
    @UweBollRaw
    Disney, I am available to direct Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. Together we will make the best superhero movie in the Marvel skinematic universe. If Chris Praat too expensive, we kill him at beginning & hire like, Michael Jai White & Jean Claude Van Damme as the dual Star Lords.

  188. H B Bear

    David Marr is irredeemable prick.

    The worst. Smug, sanctimonious Lefty. Worst of the worst. Love it when Hendo winds him up though.

  189. Entropy

    Tel
    #2769725, posted on July 22, 2018 at 9:35 am

    The secret strategy has ­selected Labor seats of Bundamba, held by Jo-Ann Miller, and Peter Russo’s Toohey as potential parachute targets for Ms Trad, who won on LNP preferences last November on a 36 per cent primary vote.

    The uniparty in action.

    They both recognize that Pea Hon’s brand of forthright populism is a great danger to their standard operating procedure of doing everything in the back room and telling the Australian people they are too stupid to understand. Thus, the preference wagons go into a circle when needed

    To be fair, in Trad’s current seat, the alternative to the LNP preferencing her would have been giving the seat to the greens. I reckon the vast majority of the few LNP voters in that electorate would have preferenced Trad even if the LNP didn’t put out a HTV ‘directing’ preferences. Which to be frank would have been a very hard call indeed. But sometimes you really have to close your eyes, hold your nose and learn to forgive yourself, because the alternative could be worse. Never reciprocal of course (S.F.L) as the LNP lost a nearby seat to the greens on ALP preferences.

    The ALP hate Jan Ann Miller. She is old labor. Actually sticks up for her constituents, resigned ministry on some trivial misdemeanour that would be otherwise weathered by someone part of the machine, a short sin bin at worst, but she instead chose to get up the government on a regular basis. She is smarter than she appears too, regularly asked good questions in parliament.

  190. Peter Castieau

    Marr ends the show sliming Gina and the IPA. Fancy that!

  191. Eyrie

    Variability of rainfall in Perth is because it comes from showers which come from individual large cumulus or Cumulo-nimbus clouds. They may be in lines but there will still be areas of higher and lower falls.
    The cumulus convection may be enhanced when the front or cloud line encounters the coast, causing higher falls near the coast and a while before the convection grows again to be enhanced again by encountering the Darling Range.

  192. Entropy

    Also ambitious Trad needs a safe seat if she is to ever challenge factional enemy Palaszczuk.

  193. Gab

    Marr ends the show sliming Gina and the IPA.

    They must be doing something right then.

  194. Marr ends the show sliming Gina and the IPA. Fancy that!

    He is a very bitter man. I will never forget that time about a decade ago when he simply brought a paper on the set and pretended to read it when Akerman was talking about the warmening. Not only was that a disgraceful act, Insiders should never have invited him on after it. That they do tells you they loved it too.

  195. DrBeauGan

    Clam, Entropy, I agree that Gina deserves credit. Don’t know if any others on the list do.

    Gina is a tough chick. I like tough chicks. There aren’t enough of them.

  196. DrBeauGan

    I don’t think that throwing poofs off tall buildings is a good idea, but I’d make an exception for David Marr.

  197. Gary

    Marr ends the show sliming Gina and the IPA. Fancy that!

    Yep that’s Marr’s MO.

  198. Elle

    Oops! Spelt Piers’ surname wrong. Need more coffee.

  199. DrBeauGan

    I am thinking of founding a religion which wants to throw lefties off tall buildings. Yes, I know it would make a mess on the pavement, but eventually we’d run out of lefties.

  200. Rae

    I am thinking of founding a religion which wants to throw lefties off tall buildings. Yes, I know it would make a mess on the pavement, but eventually we’d run out of lefties.

    Show some leadership. Throw yourself off first.

  201. egg_

    Marr ends the show sliming Gina and the IPA.

    Da IPA supports eebil coal!
    Oh noes!

  202. areff

    Throw yourself off first.

    Yeah, follow Rae’s example: Toss yourself off at every possible opportunity, especially in public.

  203. Death Giraffe

    Spelt Piers’

    ..
    Is that a beer?

  204. Rae

    areff. I’m sure I said “throw”, you old tosser.

  205. Death Giraffe

    I’ll have a jug of Spelt Piers, thanks love.

  206. egg_

    Apparently the Wikipedia pages are updated by white males from Europe and North America, and there needs to be more wimmin involved in keeping Wikipedia updated.

    Make it a facebook platform with smileys?
    /sarc

  207. Elle

    It could be Death Giraffe. 🙂
    By the way, where did your new name come from?

  208. Baldrick

    Please don’t feed the Troll 👹™

  209. Baldrick

    Enjoying your vids Death Giraffe. Keep ’em coming.

  210. Elle

    Happy to be your bar wench, DG.

  211. Elle

    I hope Tim Blair doesn’t read this blog. He would punish me for my poor grammar. There should be a comma after “It could be”.

  212. zyconoclast

    The Goss: Cardinal George Pell lets his hair down

    Cardinal George Pell is facing prosecution for alleged historic child s3x offences, but he is still finding time to let his hair down.

    As he awaits trial on the charges he denies, the former third in line to Pope Francis attended a party in Cherrybrook, north-west Sydney, last month to celebrate the engagement of Brigid Meney, the daughter of Chris Meney, chancellor of the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney and a staunch supporter of Pell.

    Many guests commented on the Cardinal’s attendance, which made some feel awkward. However, the man, who has been described as having a “several rhinoceros thick” hide, apparently looked as if he enjoyed himself.

    He mingled mostly with guests his own age, but did venture out the back of the family home with the rest of the twenty-something party-goers to toast the soon-to-be-married, young couple.

    One unlikely guest that the Cardinal crossed paths with on the night was Alisha Aitken-Radburn, who left Bill Shorten’s office to star on the upcoming series of The Bachelor.

    Since being dumped by the not-so-charming Nick “The Honey Badger” Cummins, this year’s “Bachelor villain” has been seeking out #AusPol job opportunities, but her CV is being kept on file until it is clear how she behaved on the show.

  213. Old School Conservative

    I’m sure it was mentioned somewhere……
    James Gunn’s “jokes” about [email protected] children, [email protected] his friends, Mexicans, the Holocaust, AIDS, and how kiddie pron gives him an orgasm don’t seem to be on Their ABC’s web site nor the SMH’s digital platform neither.
    Hollywood gives him a free pass and a bunch of excuses. Our media follows suit.

    Thanks to Breitbart the news is available though.

  214. egg_

    Sockie is busy throwing the chook feed.

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    To make things more confusing, the Australian Defence Medal is awarded after a certain number of years of service. Go figure. I’m sure it makes sense to someone.

    To make things even more confusing, the Australian Defence Medal has “For Service” engraved on the reverse in large letters.

    I’m also comparing this uproar with the “nothing to see here, let’s all move on” attitude where a certain Labor sitting member was found to have purchased HIS medal from a militaria shop, fabricated his tales of valor and heroism in Bosnia, and became the first sitting member ever, in Western Australia, to be threatened with expulsion from Parliament. “Barry Urban” ring any bells?

  216. Old School Conservative

    I followed Zyco’s link to the Pell story in the SMH
    Also found a sad story about the media and police covering up the name of a female journo who ran over a cyclist while test driving a $500,000 McLaren.
    Cyclist was very badly injured but no names from anyone involved, and “inquiries are continuing” from police.
    Powerful people have their own rules.

  217. DrBeauGan

    Some people here have been lefties and seen the light. I’ve never been one. I first met leftism as an undergraduate; finding that I was an atheist and a Huxleyan humanist, the communists tried to recruit me, so I argued with them. It was easy to recognise an irrational and rather nasty religion, based on envy and power hunger. I found them repulsive then and still do.

  218. miltonf

    Old school that incident you describe reminds of the Blairgowrie incident with VicPol.

  219. H B Bear

    If you want to kill or injure someone with no criminal consequences wait till they go for a bike ride and just run them over. Particularly if you are a judge or member of the legal fraternity.

  220. Elle

    Some people here have been lefties and seen the light.
    I’ve mentioned before, I started out as a lefty feminist. I was rebelling against what I thought was my ultra conservative father. Turns out I’m more right of centre than he is now. It took Trump becoming POTUS to make me see that. I’m the only one in my family who likes Trump. As such, he never gets mentioned by any of us when we’re all together.

  221. Boambee John

    HBB

    Wasn’t there a case in Mainland Tadmania a few years ago involving a member of the legal class who hit and killed a bike rider?

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA cops ready for race-hate rally against alt-right commentator Lauren Southern
    Kate CampbellPerthNow
    July 22, 2018 12:00AM
    Kate Campbell
    Topics
    WA News

    AN anti-racism protest is being planned in Perth tonight against controversial alt-right commentator Lauren Southern, who is on an Australian speaking tour.

    Protesters and police clashed in violent scenes outside Ms Southern’s Melbourne event on Friday, while WA police are urging Perth anti-fascist activists to protest peacefully.

    “Police are aware of the planned event,” a spokes-woman said. “Members of the community have the right to protest peacefully and lawfully, however, should any breaches of the law be identified police will respond.”

    Ms Southern, 23, pictured, is a Canadian YouTuber and right-wing provocateur. She’s touring Australia with fellow far-right commentator Stefan Molyneux, with tickets to their Perth event at a secret location selling for up to $750 each.

    In a Facebook post, the group United Against Bigotry and Racism said it would protest at the Perth event and called for anti-racists to join them.

    Any West Australian Cats going?

  223. egg_

    Mainland Tadmania

    Mainland Tardmania?

  224. Tom

    Some people here have been lefties and seen the light.

    Present, suh!

    (I also have a note concurrence from Lizzie, who was also a tribal lefty follower, but is unable to be here this morning on account of her exhausting, neverending world tour schedule.)

  225. I will never forget that time about a decade ago when he simply brought a paper on the set and pretended to read it when Akerman was talking about the warmening.

    Is there YouTube video of that? Sounds hilarious!

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