Talk about creepy

Perhaps a bit of common sense at last from the Foreign Editor at the Oz: Back trump on Iran, with Netanyahu, Putin’s co-operation. But first he says this:

Now, I think that crew of creepy right-wingers in the US and Australia who think Putin is a great friend of Western civilisation are just about crazy.

My goodness, who are such people? What do they say? Quotes and references, please. The Russians have their interests and we have ours and sometimes they overlap. But Russia is no longer the Soviet Union and there are many things the US and Russia can achieve together since their and our interests often overlap. And guess what we find right after the above?

But in strategic policy, in the real world, the choice is often between the evil and the even more evil. Russia’s presence in Syria may have produced something somewhat less horrible than its absence would have produced. Look at the other main actors in Syria — Islamic State, Iran, ­Hezbollah. They are all worse for humanity in Syria, and worse for Western interests, than Russia has been.

For whatever its many sins, Moscow has played the role in Syria that the West once played in troubled countries — it has restored order.

And on the American president:

The Trump administration is right to repudiate the pathetically weak deal Barack Obama did with Iran. Trump wants to enforce the red lines Obama once had for Iran — no uranium enrichment, no ballistic missiles and so on. Canberra should support this.

With this conclusion:

Trump does good as well as bad. We should explicitly and publicly support US policy on Iran.

Well, yes indeed we should. And on much else as well. Did you see this, for example: North Korea: satellite images show dismantling of missile test facilities. Quite a lot of good is being done by PDT, in fact, with very little bad of any kind so far as I can see.

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17 Responses to Talk about creepy

  1. Tom

    Now, I think that crew of creepy right-wingers in the US and Australia who think Putin is a great friend of Western civilisation are just about crazy.

    Classic projection from a closet lefty trying to imagine a group of people he’s never met. Sheridan is now trying to revive his inviteability on the progressive dinner party circuit — an even more gutless version of what Blot has become in the past five years. Since November 2016, he has been a fart in a bottle trying to figure out his principles du jour. Like the Liberal Party, he believes in nothing.

  2. C.L.

    Sheridan is the man who so loved mass murderer General Suharto that he implied Santa Cruz massacre survivors had lied. He knows all about creepy.

    Look, Putin isn’t a white knight of Western Civilisation, no.
    But what he does do is frustrate and counter-balance the EU – which has destroyed more European nations and cultures than Russia has ever dreamed of destroying.

  3. Myrddin Seren

    For whatever its many sins, Moscow has played the role in Syria that the West once played in troubled countries — it has restored order.

    Moscow backed in what it felt was its own self-interest in dropping old ordinance over Syria in some live-fire exercises for the military. We can speculate on what Russia’s interests may be – but let’s not confuse this with altruism and a respect for international order.

    Bow ties twirling so fast we are approaching take-off speed.

  4. Roger

    We can speculate on what Russia’s interests may be…

    Preserving their naval base at Tartus, for one, which the Russians invested in heavily prior to the Syrian civil war.

  5. mh

    Steve, for those of us that don’t have Oz subscription, please make it clear that Greg Sheridan has written the article. Then we can ignore it.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Has Mr Sheridan commented on Trump’s latest re nice Mr Putin?

    US won’t recognize Crimea annexation; Trump-Putin II delayed

    Pompeo issued a statement titled the “Crimea Declaration” in which he said the U.S. will continue to insist that Ukraine’s territorial integrity be restored. He said the U.S. would hold to its long-standing principle of refusing to recognize Kremlin claims of sovereignty over territory seized by force in violation of international law. And he called for Russia to respect principles it claims to respect and “end its occupation of Crimea.”

    Creepy!

  7. mh

    Nigel Farage

    @Nigel_Farage
    Trump has achieved more in one day of trade negotiations with the EU than May has in 2 years. If only we had a leader, not an appeaser.
    8:06 AM – Jul 26, 2018

  8. pbw

    Putin is the only leader who has openly stressed the importance of protecting Christians in the ME. That’s a powerful fillip to his status in the eyes of this humble observer.

  9. jupes

    My goodness, who are such people?

    He’s talking about Ross Cameron.

  10. .

    One does not need to be all in to recognise a common interest.

    The options are not “100% support Hillary” or “100% support Putin”. The dinosaur media love this dichotomy more than say the actual political opposition that readers of the Cat face in Australia today whom we could have a (perhaps unproductive) dialogue with.

    Most people on this forum are pragmatic about Putin, but differ on how much he represents their interests.

    Keeping the Mullahs away from nukes, obliterating ISIS and holding Tehran and Syria’s proxy armies in check are all good things.

  11. pbw

    Just after mentioning Putin’s support for persecuted Christians, I read this from Breitbart.

  12. PB

    So we should support Trump on Iran should we Katstein? Can’t imagine what your interest in pimping nuclear war could be? Yinon maybe?? Greater Israel no matter how much American blood it costs?

  13. .

    How many Americans have died fighting for or against Israel?

    Apart from sinking the USS Liberty, I cannot recall any.

    Plenty more Palis continue to die for the now non-existent USSR (useful Cold War idiots) than Americans have ever died for Israel.

  14. Viva

    Most troubling quote from Sheridan’s article:

    “The West is now too morally fastidious to be effective”.

  15. BorisG

    For all his virtues, Putin views America as its main enemy and the whole world order as a zero sum game. sure there are some common interests and sure you should explore them but not by licking Putin’s ass.

    The dialog should be constructive but robust.

  16. BorisG

    Look at the other main actors in Syria — Islamic State, Iran, ­Hezbollah. They are all worse for humanity in Syria, and worse for Western interests, than Russia has been.

    This is a weird statement. Iran and Hezbollah were losing the war before Russia got in and were sustaining huge losses. When Russians came they made Iran and Hezbollah part of the solution. It is still unclear what Russian policy t0wards them will be. So far, the Russians have not interfered with Israeli actions against Iran and its proxies but it is not clear if they indeed intend to kick them out.

  17. Gary

    Your wrong PB we have already been killed by ending net neutrality or the extra scoop of ice-cream.

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