A train crash or national suicide in slow motion

This story has to get told outside the echo chamber where it is old news.

Any suggestions? Training taxi drivers? Do more on Facebook? Encourage your friends and relations to check out the data dashboard and explain to their friends what it means when the sun is shining, the demand is low on Sunday afternoon and we are getting 15% of our power from Wind and Other.

They will eventually realise that something has gone seriously wrong but by then it may be too late. Are there really no people connected with the ALP who can see what is coming? What has happened to Martin Ferguson?

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11 Responses to A train crash or national suicide in slow motion

  1. wal1957

    …..but, but, the politicians and the experts…they are all saying that power is going to get cheaper and cheaper! Don’t you know anything?
    Pigs are going to fly…and my money tree that I just purchased is going to produce lots and lots next year!

    It’s so bloody depressing…the number of people who believe that unreliables are capable of supplying anywhere near reliable, cheap power, 24/7. Politicians and their experts should all be hung and quartered over this economic shambles that they have created!

    …and they wonder why about a third of all votes are not going to the 2 major parties?!!!!!!!

  2. Entropy

    Didn’t the party give Martin the boot?

  3. RobK

    Rafe,
    As is quoted often on this forum; (regarding the title): Embrace the power of “and”.
    Clearly much damage has been done already. Even an optimistic view has to concede that early adoption has a high price in infrastructure and lost industry.
    The cost per MWh of the change to RE will increase as penetration rises. Increased RE will cause more to be spent on bulk storage in an effort to ride out gluts, but then RE will be increased as source to charge the storage during lean times to avoid running expensive ” at call plant”. All plant (including transmission) will be under utilized and over capitalized, especially if the subsidies persist. We will never regain what’s been blown. Prices will be high.
    Unfortunately, it’s the CO2 scare that need to be managed as well.
    Trump. Watch and learn.

  4. nerblnob

    The majority who even think about it, and they are the majority of a minority, will tell you it’s due to privatisation, low company tax, Big End of Town, all that crap.

  5. Iampeter

    Yea I had someone proudly tell me that he is going to “break even in eight years” when I asked what economic sense it made to install a solar panel system. I asked him if he thinks that answered my question and after a few moments the penny dropped. He doesn’t talk about his solar panels to anyone anymore. Still this is the world we’re living in.

    The problem for Jo Nova, et al, is that they agree with a lot of the fundamentals of the alarmists so her own arguments are undercut by more fundamental facts. Ultimately you have to be FOR something as opposed to just opposed to whatever and that requires more than random positions on random issues. It requires ideas.

    What’s needed are people in the mainstream that can point out the glaring contradiction in suggesting that industrial civilization, which has observably improved mans life is destroying his environment.
    What’s needed is someone who grasps basic politics and has a position on what the government should and should not do across all the issues, including energy.
    What’s needed is someone who understands the high-school level physics, if it even still comes up after the first two points and is able to demolish the total nonsense of the alarmists position.

    There is no one like this in the mainstream. The above simply requires way too much thinking effort for most people.

  6. Tel

    Right now the problem is you don’t even hear the words “Renewable Energy Target” or even RET on any national media. For example, you look at something like Paul Murray Live (which I suspect is partly scripted these days) and they have these long and agonizing conversations about electricity prices, usually with a Liars Party representative explaining how the free market has demonstrated that coal power is uneconomical … none of the others can explain that RET forces the operator of a coal plant to pay subsidy money to other power producers. Get rid of the RET and find out what a free market actually delivers.

    If the slightly “edgy” media think this is too hot to make the slightest mention, you can forget about the establishment legacy media delivering an honest message.

  7. .

    The problem for Jo Nova, et al, is that they agree with a lot of the fundamentals of the alarmists so her own arguments are undercut by more fundamental facts. Ultimately you have to be FOR something as opposed to just opposed to whatever and that requires more than random positions on random issues. It requires ideas.

    This is about science, not taking a position and beating your chest.

  8. Viva

    Prices went off the ranch from 2007

    Everything went to buggery from 2007.

  9. John Constantine

    Given that births in Australia are locked in to becoming minority majority with the next generation, the old racist settler Green culture needs to consider the sort of electricity and debt it is leaving behind for new decolonised Australia.

    Tipping the new voteherds aren’t going to obey the legacy landmine commands left behind by the old green hippies.

    Super and pensions will be adjusted to fix the problems.

    Waleed u Akbar, pbuh.

  10. Genghis

    Prices went off the ranch from 2007

    You people seem to forget that we elected Rudd a Howard look-a-like, a financial Conservative. Look what we got now we have little Billy assuring us that we will have secure boarders. When will the ‘stupids’ wake up. Last weekend was a Liberal disaster!

  11. Colonel Crispin Berka, Kings' Fusiliers Corps.

    As if on cue:

    Market Notice 63654
    AEMO ELECTRICITY MARKET NOTICE.
    Direction – South Australia region 30/07/2018 – 18:33
    In accordance with section 116 of the National Electricity Law, AEMO has issued a direction to a participant in the South Australia region. The direction was necessary to maintain the power system in a secure operating state.

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