A culture war Geneva convention?

There was a long essay in the WSJ over the weekend by Orrin Hatch.

America’s culture war has reached a tipping point. While our politics have always been divisive, an underlying commitment to civility has usually held citizens on both sides together. As the partisan divide deepens, it becomes clear that we need to take meaningful steps toward de-escalation. Something must change before anger succumbs to violence.

I am, however, calling for a dramatic reassessment of tactics. We need a détente in partisan hostilities, an easing of tensions that can be realized when both sides adopt certain rules of engagement—norms to rein in the worst excesses of the culture wars.

Foremost among these norms should be a commitment to preventing communal spaces from becoming politicized. Even in our most divided times, there have been places we could go to escape the partisan clamor—places where we could leave politics at the door and come together as one, including restaurants, theaters, sports arenas and houses of worship.

The assault on communal spaces is a subset of the politicization of everything—the culture war equivalent of a scorched-earth policy. It is an attempt to burn away the last vestiges of civility and common cause along the march to political domination. Everything—from chicken sandwiches to prom dresses and even cartoon frogs—can be weaponized for political purposes. In this world, there is no neutral territory: Every place is a battlefield, everything is a weapon, and everyone is a soldier in the great culture war.

Read the whole thing.

Nice sentiment, but I suspect the time when calls for restraint would be heeded is long past.

Updated: Cross posted in The Australian.

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35 Responses to A culture war Geneva convention?

  1. Slim Cognito

    Something must change before anger succumbs to violence

    It is already too late for that.

  2. The likes of Maxine Waters is already publicly calling for violence against anyone that supports Trump. The Left openly support the likes of Antifa terrorists (as they are now listed). The Left is openly calling for violence against everyone they disagree with or disagrees with them.

    A second civil war isn’t all that fanciful.

  3. .

    Any of these political dummies (Waters, Crimea or Korea) or entertainment halfwits (Katy Perry, “is math related to science?”) that push bizarre left wing crap need to get to get absolutely hammered in the MSM and alternative media.

  4. “Ideological nations have two problems. One is they must endlessly whip the citizens into a fervor in order to keep them loyal to the state. Religions have the same challenge, which is why the preacher is always warning about some imminent threat to your soul or reminding everyone about God’s wrath. Piety is a full-time commitment and that applies to civic piety, as well. It’s why communist countries are drenched in patriotic symbols, songs and public performances, designed to keep everyone in a heightened state of ideological frenzy.”
    Read the whole thing

  5. stackja

    USA last faced a violent Dem Party. That didn’t end well for the Dems.

  6. bollux

    We need a war in Australia. I’ll be on the side whose Navy doesn’t wear fingernail polish.

  7. NB

    ‘halfwits that push bizarre left wing crap need to get to get absolutely hammered in the MSM…’
    That’s a joke, right?
    But I do have a report or two that CNN and maybe some other outlets have been toning down their rhetoric a bit over the last couple of weeks.

  8. Rafe

    The campuses would have once been the most likely public spaces for free speech but they were the first to go courtesy of the draft for Vietnam and the Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism.

  9. a happy little debunker

    bemused @ 4:12 pm

    Don’t know if you had heard that a right wing group called the ‘Oath Keepers’ planned to protest outside Maxine Waters Offices.
    They decided to cancel – because of expected counter protestors, who now deprived of their target assaulted journalists and passer-by’s out of convenience – although surprisingly no arrests were made.

    Maxine then called out the ‘Oath Keepers’ as inflaming the incident – they did not attend.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maxine-waters-los-angeles-office-oath-keepers-counter-protest-today-2018-07-19/

  10. Scott Osmond

    The left have been playing rough for decades. Only now that people not of the left are starting to fight back are they calling for civility? No, now that we are starting to win it’s time to give it to them good and hard.

  11. Boambee John

    Rafe
    #2776350, posted on July 30, 2018 at 4:38 pm
    The campuses would have once been the most likely public spaces for free speech but they were the first to go courtesy of the draft for Vietnam and the Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism.

    Old tradition.

    Martin Heidegger worked to make his university Choo Free a matter of months after Adolph became Chancellor.

  12. Maxine then called out the ‘Oath Keepers’ as inflaming the incident – they did not attend./blockquote>

    I wasn’t aware of that, but nothing surprises me. This is how the Democrats, the MSM and all Leftists operate and Twitter is full of evidence that it certainly works on anyone that leans Left.

  13. Oh good. Yet another “We’re so divided, we need to come together” article which, in effect, lays blame on both sides.

    Horseshit.

    It is the left that is enacting violence, running around making false accusations about our side and generally acting like retarded eeejuts. We haven’t shifted from our principles of reasoned debate, empirical facts and learning from the past (yet). The left can’t engage on those terms because they would lose EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.

    The left have lied, cheated, slandered and smeared to get their way and ram their vile, failed, cult down everyone’s throats all the while they maintain their power and drain the life out of us like the parasites they are. They have rammed their shitshow into every aspect of our lives and culture, not us. They have red taped and green taped and black taped society, not us. They have targeted every person from womb to grave for State interference, not us.

    They’re not going to back down because they have everything to lose and nothing to gain. Slowly, the right is waking up to this (as our some on the left; #walkaway) and starting to use their tactics against them. They have been given more than enough opportunities and they’ve just spat it back in our faces over and over.

    When the tipping point comes (and it will come) there are a lot of Deplorables out there with a lot of pent up anger and frustration. It ain’t gonna be pretty but the left can FOAD for all I care.

    Don’t buy into this “We must come together” narrative because they will just turn it to their advantage.
    Unconditional surrender to free speech, rule of law, empiricism and facts or nothing.

  14. Grandma

    While it may take two to tango, it only takes one to start a fight.

  15. Mater

    Oh good. Yet another “We’re so divided, we need to come together” article which, in effect, lays blame on both sides.
    Horseshit.

    Mr Rusty,
    +1
    Thank you. You saved me the bother.

  16. Gary

    To late!

    Burger King

    @BurgerKing

    we all pay the price when women are charged more. that’s why we dropped the price of chicken fries to $1.69 for everyone.

  17. Jannie

    If the left are starting to get nervous at the prospect of retaliation, that’s a good sign. They sewed the wind, they shall reap the whirlwind.

  18. Jonesy

    But there is a huge cost to the rest of us…..
    Tonight on the news a man was charged, along with his two brothers for a cowardly, unwarranted hit on a passing pedestrian on a Frankston business district street. Whilst this was abhorrent, what really scares me is the rise a of a vigilante group that has, inevitably, targeted an innocent man whom they thought was involved…

    This is the beginning. This is what happens when the people society entrusts with the ability to commit violence in their name falls short in their duty. Our police are very adept at scaring law abiding citizens but when it comes to lawless individuals who have no fear of the people wearing the uniform…a tinderbox just waiting for a sputtering faggot to ignite it!

    The VicPol target the victim to pay for their own protection. What are they? Police or Mafia? I fear we are seeing the first swirls of chaos in Victoria.

  19. Rebel with cause

    Maybe start with getting politics out of schools. It’s telling that the left targets impressionable 5 year olds with its lame awareness campaigns.

  20. .

    They’ve been pulling that shit for decades though Rebel.

    I’d say at least three decades.

  21. Boambee John

    Jannie
    #2776512, posted on July 30, 2018 at 7:20 pm
    If the left are starting to get nervous at the prospect of retaliation, that’s a good sign. They sewed the wind, they shall reap the whirlwind.

    One evening in late 1940 Bomber Harris stood on the roof of the Air Ministry building off Whitehall, watching the fires rage around St Paul’s. Harris turned to another officer and said “They have sown the wind”.

    Two years later as AOC in C of Bomber Command, he got the process of starting the whirlwind well underway.

  22. Jannie

    Harris came to mind when I made the comment Boambee. For good or bad, he was not much constrained by the Geneva convention. A lot of bad things were said about him, but at least nobody could accuse him of starting it.

  23. Bad Samaritan

    We’ve seen hundreds of people killed by socialist governments in Nicaragua this year already, and hundreds more in Venezuela, and thousands in Syria by it’s socialist government. Meanwhile reigns of terror exist in those other socialist “paradises” Cuba and Nth Korea and and and…

    So, even with contemporary examples which are not hidden, we have millions of western citizens demanding more of this, They do not conceal their desire to harm people.

    Leftists hurt; then eventually kill two main categories of citizen; those who disagree in advance with their hateful philosophy, and those who protest against the results once they’ve ruined and destroyed everything in a society.

    It really is no solution to try to “reconcile” with leftists. They want their opponents injured, then dead….no middle ground possible.

  24. Iampeter

    The thing is, when people have no arguments then violence is all that’s left to them. We are living at a time that is a particular low point in political discourse where nothing but fools, arguing almost exactly the same thing (like antifa and alt-right) are at each others throats. It’s similar but not as bad yet as early 20th century when you had commies and nazi’s engaging in running gun battles in the streets. Just evil idiots who have no arguments resorting to violence.

    places where we could leave politics at the door and come together as one, including restaurants, theaters, sports arenas and houses of worship.

    I agree with this and if people understood how rights work this wouldn’t be a problem because protesting wouldn’t be legal. But today everyone thinks protesting and disrupting peoples lives, rather than being an assortment of rights violations and crimes is in fact “free speech”. It’s not. If you want to have a rally, hire a hall or something and do what you like. But actual protesters should be arrested not given permits.

  25. John Constantine

    The true hate is always within their left, because leftists are frothing away within their leftist hatebubble smelling the farts of other leftists all the time, like being trapped in an elevator eternally descending into the pits of hell.

    If only their left didn’t have to kill so many other people before they get around to Purging each other, it would be fine and dandy entertainment.

    Comrades.

  26. mh

    ANOTHER FIGHT BREAKS OUT AT DONALD TRUMP’S HOLLYWOOD STAR

    Liberals steal MAGA hat, fight police, get arrested

    https://www.infowars.com/another-fight-breaks-out-at-donald-trumps-hollywood-star/

  27. struth

    A lefty grizzling that they are getting some back for once.

  28. Kneel

    Something must change before anger succumbs to violence. the string us all up!

    FIFY.

  29. Kneel

    “they” not “the”…

  30. Habib

    No quarter. Raze buildings, salt the earth, enslave or slaughter survivors. Basically give them a demo of how their RoP muckers go about business.

  31. Habib

    * commies and nazis punching on if domestic violence. Best to let family squabbles sort themselves out. Like shi’ite/sunni. Send in ammo.

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