Open Forum: August 11, 2018

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  1. … *what* caused the “Big Bang”?
    There had to be a force, a centre of energy (and where did THAT come from?).
    “God” is as good a name for it as any other.

    No, and what is being posited as Prime Mover is neither force nor energy.

  2. Geriatric Mayfly

    This is demonstrably false! Any student of Pratchett will be able to explain to you that there are elephants involved on at least one level!

    Today’s cartoon at American Thinker shows who is holding up the world for a certain collective of spoiled, overpaid brats.

  3. Crossie

    Haha. You forgot were talking Fauxfacts. Now swallowed by 9.

    We have yet to see who swallowed whom?

  4. rickw

    Mo, born to one of Fraser’s lebs…..

    You well and truly nailed that one.

  5. Makka

    It’s a plausible theory that fits the available observations, but not proven because it requires insight into the intentions of the Tory party members.

    Not a huge leap at all. The Tories went Socialist during Majors reign.

  6. Entropy

    There’s evidence that a bunch of people died and bodies were found at the bottom of the cliffs. Others vanished in that general area and were not found.

    How they went off the edge is still an open investigation.

    So what do you think more likely Tel? That a bunch of lonely depressed dudes suicided, or there was a gang killing multiple gays by grabbing them and tossing them off cliffs, and none of them ever confessed or told anyone?

  7. Entropy

    Not a huge leap at all. The Tories went Socialist during Majors reign.

    Nah, they were always a bunch of wet upper class wankers with mummy issues. Which explains why Thatcher had them cowed.

  8. John Constantine

    Australia’s propaganda Class is merely playing their part.

    The humiliation occurs when our exploiter Class orders a single purpose Class to double up.

    Example:

    Vicpol are ordered to be both brute enforcers AND street theatre and goebles propaganda Class.

    We all know it won’t work, but Aussie’s do go along to get along.

    Comrades.

  9. Crossie

    Not a huge leap at all. The Tories went Socialist during Majors reign.

    I thought David Campbell being anti Brexit would have been proof enough but Theresa May seals the deal for the undecideds.

  10. stackja

    Snoopy
    #2787267, posted on August 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm
    Roberts-Smith is the second; the first was a high-ranking Catholic figure.

    I think Peter Hollingworth was the first.

    PH may have been the first most publicised. While George Pell has been the target for many years. Only with Vic Pol has Pell been charged.

  11. Makka

    You can’t provide a link because you’re lying.

    JC is always fkg lying, especially when he’s caught lying. Here’s the deal ; JC stated we can reduce foreign born in this country to 13% in 15 years. Despite numerous requests, he still has not posted a formula that can achieve this. NOBODY else asserted this, just JC. So the burden is on JC to provide the formula and nobody else.

    That’s not the issue. The issue is JC wants more immigration, loves the immigration ponzi. He will lie and obfuscate to argue this point forever. Because living like sardines crammed into a 3rd world shithole is good for GDP. That helps JC’s Qantas and Sydney Airport shares. Case closed.

  12. Crossie

    James Delingpole keeps vouching for Jacob Reese-Mogg as Theresa’s natural successor but that’s not good enough. If he wants the job he will have to go and get it and that mean getting your hands dirty which is what Boris is doing.

  13. Crossie

    PH may have been the first most publicised. While George Pell has been the target for many years. Only with Vic Pol has Pell been charged.

    While Paul Bongiorno and their ABC make sure it is a national issue. Yeah, I’m going to take the word of a defrocked priest like Bongiorno.

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nah, they were always a bunch of wet upper class wankers with mummy issues. Which explains why Thatcher had them cowed.

    The Blessed Saint Hilda was supposed to have been presiding over a working lunch with fellow party functionaries. She ordered a steak.

    When the waiter inquired about the vegetables, the reply was “They’ll have what I’m having.”

  15. There’s evidence that a bunch of people died and bodies were found at the bottom of the cliffs. Others vanished in that general area and were not found.

    How they went off the edge is still an open investigation.

    If people have vanished in the area you can’t rightly assume they went over the cliff. So let’s speculate about those found. If the claim is true we’re supposed to believe that this gang was actively operating over a decade or so and this had no effect on gays using the area as a beat? Really?

  16. Crossie

    The Blessed Saint Hilda was supposed to have been presiding over a working lunch with fellow party functionaries. She ordered a steak.

    When the waiter inquired about the vegetables, the reply was “They’ll have what I’m having.”

    It turned out a lot in her party were ricinus plants.

  17. None

    So people who benefits from taking down Ben RS –
    after all, he is a Channel 7 executive these days and even execs having affairs is very good at Channel 7. Was he planning to run for political office? What?

  18. Snoopy

    Roberts-Smith is merely collateral damage. The aim is to rid the SAS and then the ADF of toxic masculinity.

  19. Boambee John

    Crossie at 2150

    Yeah, I’m going to take the word of a defrocked priest like Bongiorno.

    Yeah, a defrocked priest recently caught tweeting racist slurs.

  20. Rae

    There’s evidence that a bunch of people died and bodies were found at the bottom of the cliffs. Others vanished in that general area and were not found.

    How they went off the edge is still an open investigation.

    SBS ran a story/series about it a while ago.

    The Gay Hate Decades

  21. .

    Forget toxic masculinity. I’ve spotted leftists disparaging “toxic meritocracy” lately.

  22. Snoopy

    Forget toxic masculinity. I’ve spotted leftists disparaging “toxic meritocracy” lately.

    There’s only one step down from here, baby It’s called the land of permanent bliss

    Bob Dylan

  23. DrBeauGan

    I’ve spotted leftists disparaging “toxic meritocracy” lately.

    Of course. If you’re one of nature’s losers, you won’t approve of meritocracy.

  24. C.L.

    I think Peter Hollingworth was the first.

    Nah.
    That was a get Howard op overlaid with livid outrage about a Christian cleric being appointed G-G.
    Nobody cares about the Anglican Church from a cultural standpoint.
    And it was, to be sure, a thoroughly stupid appointment.

  25. Snoopy

    overlaid with livid outrage about a Christian cleric being appointed G-G.
    Nobody cares about the Anglican Church from a cultural standpoint.

    One of these things is not like the other.

  26. .

    I actually read Grigory’s link; the deaths are spread from Tathra to Newcastle.

    For the most part, it looks like the gang who bashed gays (sometimes to the point of murder) and the serial homophobic sodomiser who probably murdered a few of them were all locked up anyway.

    A few of them were robberies and a couple could have just been tampered with by the murderers to insinuate homosexuality.

  27. zyconoclast

    mh
    #2787140, posted on August 12, 2018 at 7:01 pm
    The Tories gave the job of Brexit to a remainer, Theresa May. Dumbest decision ever. And the Conservative Party are still letting things drift. Fucking unbelievable.

    Nothing dumb about it. It was deliberate.
    Everything is working to plan.

  28. None

    Ben RS has been out of the SAS 4 years. It doesn’t make sense. Who benefits from this or is it just some ex-mistress who was scorned? How did you get to leak that report – if we believe that such a report ended up in Fairfax hands.

  29. None

    If no one cares about the Anglican church and no one should have been upset about Hollingworth’s appointment.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.welcometocountry.org/9-lessons-australia-learn-aboriginal-people/

    Does anyone want a really good laugh? This was posted during all the uproar over the abuse that Jacinta Price was copping.

  31. None

    I hope BG succeeds in his latest litigation against the New South Wales authorities. He deserves everybody’s support for taking on the thought police.

  32. C.L.

    One of these things is not like the other.

    You’re being obtuse.
    They weren’t trying to bring down the Anglican Church as a force in Australian culture.
    That’s because it isn’t a force and its theology sold out to lumpen-leftism decades ago.
    They were trying to bring down Archbishop Hollingworth, clerical Governor-General.
    It was a narrower campaign.
    The operation against Pell is a criminal conspiracy designed to extirpate orthodox Catholicism as a cultural force in Australian society. Just as the attack on Roberts-Smith is a conspiracy to bring down the SAS as a bastion of masculine, traditional, morally certain military esprit de corps.

  33. Mark from Melbourne

    An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian reveals the Coalition’s primary vote slipping from 39 to 37 per cent, with One Nation increasing from 7 to 9 per cent.

    With MPs returning to Canberra following the winter break, Newspoll shows Mr Turnbull’s lead over Bill Shorten as preferred Prime Minister has been slashed from 19 points to 12 points.

    Good.

  34. None

    The campaign against Pell as CL describes it is plausible. I can’t see how the attack on Ben RS is an attack on the SAS given he left it years and years ago. Something decidedly smelly there sure but a different pong.

  35. Steve trickler

    WTF!

    The bloke stole a plane.



  36. None

    If the liberals don’t roll Turnbull in the next month they are toast toast toast and more toast. So we might as well start bracing ourselves for PM Pie Face and vote for the most obstructionist sane Senators.

  37. DrBeauGan

    Arky/Death, if in the course of your reading you come up with any reasons for believing in God, other than because most of the people you know do, or because you desperately want to, you can try them out on me.

    I’ve read the Aquinas proofs, I’ve read CS Lewis, and a lot of other stuff. None of it comes close to convincing me. I’ve given even Hindus a chance to sell me on their religion. It’s about as plausible as Christianity, which is not very.

    After you’ve failed to convert your atheist, give a Hindu a chance. Then a Muslim. Keep going with other religions. It might occur to you after a while that none of them are convincing except to those who want to believe.

  38. Snoopy

    The operation against Pell is a criminal conspiracy designed to extirpate orthodox Catholicism as a cultural force in Australian society.

    Pope Che has beaten them to it.

  39. Death Giraffe

    BG.
    I’m not out to convince anyone of anything.
    It will be great.
    You will love it. We are going to break down all the best arguments for and against.
    There will be a tonne of science in there. I have not seen anything sufficiently comprehensive.
    I have a few thoughts and questions of my own I want tested against soneone elses thoughts.
    I always have interesting discussions with Chris, who is a science guy.

  40. Rae

    How did you get to leak that report – if we believe that such a report ended up in Fairfax hands.

    No-one leaked any report. McKenzie, Wroe and Masters did extensive investigative journalism.

    Over almost a year, Fairfax Media has interviewed dozens of veterans, officials and people with knowledge of Roberts-Smith’s personal conduct including decorated soldiers who served alongside him.

  41. None

    Dr BG. If anyone could convince you, in a matter that was entirely satisfactory to you, that there was a God what difference would it make to your life ?

  42. Confused Old Misfit

    No, and what is being posited as Prime Mover is neither force nor energy.

    The Great and Mysterious OZ has spoken!

  43. None

    Over almost a year, Fairfax Media has interviewed dozens of veterans, officials and people with knowledge of Roberts-Smith’s personal conduct including decorated soldiers who served alongside him.

    No proof that they ever did. No Names. No recorded interviews. No context. No evidence.

  44. DrBeauGan

    None
    #2787337, posted on August 12, 2018 at 10:54 pm
    Dr BG. If anyone could convince you, in a matter that was entirely satisfactory to you, that there was a God what difference would it make to your life ?

    It would require me to rethink a lot of my ideas, None. Much would depend on the nature of the God. If it was recognisably the Christian God, I’d have to work out which sect to join. If I was convinced of the whole Christian shebang, I’d probably go to Syria and convert Isis. Or die trying.

  45. The Great and Mysterious OZ has spoken!

    Not at all. I’m just passing along the rejoinder that what is understood as Prime Mover within classical theism is neither force nor energy.

  46. max

    Thursday & Friday last week: Victorian cops rightly belted everywhere over their handling of Sudanese gangs.
    Saturday & Sunday: Fatty Ashton says cops should be given extra powers to intervene in family violence.

    Look ….. over there !

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No proof that they ever did. No Names. No recorded interviews. No context. No evidence.

    Nothing to do with Chris Masters writing a book a couple of years ago?

  48. Stimpson J. Cat

    reasons for believing in God

    Simple.
    1.)We know that Heaven and Hell are real because..
    2.)Heaven, is any place without Atheists.
    3.)Hell, is having to listen to Atheists whine incessantly about God. If you don’t believe, then shut the f$ck up and live your life as it is literally all that you heathens get. You are wasting time.

  49. Snoopy

    . If I was convinced of the whole Christian shebang, I’d probably go to Syria and convert Isis. Or die trying.

    Work your way into it. Start with Hollywood.

  50. None

    Nothing to do with Chris Masters writing a book a couple of years ago?

    yeah he could be trying to sell a book. If you read the Fairfax report it’s all very slight of hand for example it goes on about a couple of the brass at some awards ceremony (dickheads Campbell and Griggs), and even though they are not directly implicated or raised any durect questions about Ben himself, the article is framed as if they did – it’s really dishonest. Mind you I wouldn’t put it past dickheads like Campbell and Griggs who both have long lefty form. As I said a couple of days ago I am not. Ben fan the guy has a right to natural justice and due process.

  51. Confused Old Misfit

    Dover,
    It’s too late at night for me to care, one way or the other.

  52. None

    If I was convinced of the whole Christian shebang, I’d probably go to Syria and convert Isis. Or die trying.

    You are right that it does depend on which God or what sort of God Dr BG and that’s the first thing I would point out to DG: which God is it that your friend does not believe in or which God is it that one should believe in? If a God exists is that enough to make any difference in our lives? Rhe biggest proof that there is a god is that everybody who says there is no God does not live according to their beliefs. Exhibit A: all of them cry about suffering. To cry about suffering is to say that the world is not as it should be. To say the world is not as it should be is a Moral Judgement and to suggest that the world should be without suffering is a Christian worldview. The Buddhista for example have a completely different approach to suffering as do Hindus, Muslims etc. All Modern Day atheists define themselves over against the judeo Christian God and by doing so they pay homage to his existence. They also remind everyone why hell is locked from the inside.

  53. max

    Christ said he was the Son of God and was crucified for saying it. His words about how to live strike me as sane and beneficial to myself and others around me but that is not the most important thing.. It’s all about Christ and what one thinks of him.

  54. DrBeauGan

    Work your way into it. Start with Hollywood.

    😊

    Syria seems somehow cleaner. Mixing with murderous loonies would be easier for me than mixing with lefties.

  55. DrBeauGan

    Modern Day atheists define themselves over against the judeo Christian God and by doing so they pay homage to his existence.

    I disagree, None. I had a catholic mother and a pagan father, so was brought up in the C of E as a compromise. I am pretty happy with Christian ethics. That doesn’t mean I accept the mumbo-jumbo elements of the religion.

  56. DrBeauGan

    It’s all about Christ and what one thinks of him.

    I think he was a moral genius. But a man..

  57. None

    So your dad was a polyheist or into some form of shamanism, Dr BG? By the way pagan was a slightly derogatory term invented by Christians to describe the uneducated heathen out in the donga.

  58. zyconoclast

    Why Americans Go (and Don’t Go) to Religious Services
    Many cite practical or personal reasons, rather than lack of belief, for staying home

    In recent years, the percentage of U.S. adults who say they regularly attend religious services has been declining, while the share of Americans who attend only a few times a year, seldom or never has been growing. A new Pew Research Center survey finds that the main reason people regularly go to church, synagogue, mosque or another house of worship is an obvious one: to feel closer to God. But the things that keep people away from religious services are more complicated.

  59. Steve trickler

    For the memory banks.



  60. None

    I think he was a moral genius. But a man..

    if he was a moral genius he said some pretty wacko things like destroy this temple and I will raise it again. Also the ancients had a pretty good idea about death for example they understood quite well that once you were dead you didn’t become alive again. The Romans in particular understood that well especiallyvas they specialised in building things and killing people. This moral genius of yours Dr BG seems to have convinced everybody who knew him that after he died he somehow came back to life and we then 400 years they were running the civilized world without so much as raising a hand.

  61. None

    That is a very sad story Steve and I didn’t really want to listen. It was sad enough to read in the paper that he had told air traffic control that he was just a broken guy. So devastating for his family.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Maori man given ‘black guy repellent’ takes Queensland employer to court

    I’m remembering a fair amount of mayhem a few years ago, when the Memsahib was assaulted for refusing to give a drunk Aborigine a packet of cigarettes. The local police quelled the resulting disturbance, but, in the interests of keeping the Queens peace, where do I buy a tin?

  63. DrBeauGan

    By the way pagan was a slightly derogatory term invented by Christians to describe the uneducated heathen

    Yep, that’s my dad!😎

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We didn’t get to the Greig performance. Close on Sundays. Just like the Church of St. Mary, the historic church here in Bergen. No church for you on Sunday, say the closed doors.

    We did the Hanseatic Museum more thoroughly instead. It is part of our hotel, and the whole lot, as with everything wooden along the waterfront, is already World Heritage Listed. Bergen, as a wooden town, and the harbour front in particular, has gone up in flames numerous times during its hundreds of years since the twelfth century. So I wasn’t wrong worrying about fire last night.
    Something I got wrong for you was this is not a Hanseatic City. It was a city that was run by the Hanseatic League, who were of course mainly Germans, who have a habit of overrunning places. They had Hanseatic rights over four non-Hanseatic cities: these included Bergen and Bruges, Two thousand German lived in Bergen and basically ran the show. The museum provides in situ displays of how the place was run, how the Masters, Journeymen and Apprentices lived, and how they gathered in heated assembly rooms where fire was allowed, with separate buildings for cooking, as no flames of any sorts were allowed in the offices, store-rooms and warehouses, or dormitories. The system was based on trading of dried cod for grain from agricultural countries, with a lot of other bits and pieces of associated trading. Currently Hairy and I are reading Matt Ridley on The Evolution of Everything, and trade of course features dominantly in the spread of people, things and ideas. You understand the Vikings more by being here. There’s nothing here except fish.

    I can see our journey to the arctic will be a fishing expedition! 🙂

  65. DrBeauGan

    if he was a moral genius he said some pretty wacko things like destroy this temple and I will raise it again.

    Maybe he was like Stimpy. Except that stimps isn’t a moral genius. He is reported as having said a number of things, some of which look whacko, some of which look to me like profound insights. Overall, I give him credit for the insights and suspend judgement on the whacky bits. Maybe the didn’t hear him right and it was like blessed are the cheesemakers. Hearsay is all we’ve got, and it was a long time ago. Most of the accounts are from uneducated and credulous people. Typically such are poor witnesses and get lots wrong. There is a kind of coherence to the moral message which impresses me, but I wouldn’t have much faith in any particular quotation.

  66. None

    Yep, that’s my dad!

    Nope. The last pagans died centuries and centuries in fact more than a millennia ago.

  67. None

    Kinda nice to see the Turkish lira collapse. I have no doubt it’s been helped along the way. I hope the effects are brutal and quick so that the population can get rid of Erdogan and his type of chrony sooner rather than later and start getting back to some sort of civilized normality again.

  68. C.L.

    Pope Che has beaten them to it.

    Yes. I fear you’re right.

  69. C.L.

    I can’t see how the attack on Ben RS is an attack on the SAS given he left it years and years ago.

    Oh None, come on. He’s the public face and exemplar par excellence of the Special Forces, still serving or not. He is a man with a perfect military bearing; he is a masculine force of nature and the most decorated Digger of contemporary times. Alinsky 101: use everything that’s noble and good and praiseworthy in your enemy against him; drag him down. That leaves the door open to what the pansies at the ADF and the left of politics desperately want: the muzzling, if not abolition, of special forces, the feminisation of the military, the de-miliarisation of the military and the placating (via moral equivalency propaganda) of global Islam.

  70. Mitch M.

    Modern Day atheists define themselves over against the judeo Christian God and by doing so they pay homage to his existence.

    Please stop equating the public atheists with atheists in general. Most atheists are indifferent to religion and could hardly care less about it. They don’t care, metaphysics doesn’t preoccupy them the way it preoccupies the religious. Atheists tend to be more pragmatically focused which might explain why scientists are much more likely to be atheists than the general population.

    that there is a god is that everybody who says there is no God does not live according to their beliefs. Exhibit A: all of them cry about suffering. To cry about suffering is to say that the world is not as it should be. To say the world is not as it should be is a Moral Judgement and to suggest that the world should be without suffering is a Christian worldview.

    Why do you try to understand human behavior as if it dictated by a moral code? How much have you read about human behavior other than what you here while sitting in the pews? How much have you read about animal studies which make a convincing case that morality, empathy, and altruism do not come from above but from below, that even in a famous game theory challenge it was found that it is better to co-operate than cheat all the time?

  71. Dave in Marybrook

    Oh Lizzie! To think that you and yours have come so close to crossing paths with my dear brothers in Edinburgh and East Lothian, and my half sister on the church organ in Bergen!

  72. Oh come on

    The man won a bloody VC, for crying out loud. The VC is a near-mystical institution, and it is awarded in mysterious ways. Extraordinary valour alone doesn’t cut it.

    They aren’t having a go at Ben Roberts-Smith – he is a target only because of the accolade bestowed upon him. They are trying to take down the Anglo martial tradition and are striking at its very heart by attempting to devalue the VC.

    They hate the VC, those who respect it and the institution that awards it. They are extremely uncomfortable with the fact that the most prestigious of our military decorations can be issued by people they don’t control and for reasons they don’t approve of.

    They want people like Chelsea Manning and David Hicks to be awarded VCs.

  73. Oh come on

    A friend of mine recently attempted to attend an atheist conference in Melb. But it was cancelled at the last minute. Atheists can’t get their shit together even moreso than Libertarians, sheesh.

    Why the hell would atheists have a conference, BTW? It has a very evangelical feel to it.

  74. zyconoclast

    A friend of mine recently attempted to attend an atheist conference in Melb. But it was cancelled at the last minute. Atheists can’t get their shit together even moreso than Libertarians, sheesh.

    “Reason to Hope”, the third Global Atheist Convention scheduled for Melbourne in February 2018, has been cancelled because of “lack of interest”

  75. Oh come on

    Yep, that’d be the one. Sad.

  76. Oh come on

    Zyco’s article was written by:

    Dr Michael Jensen is rector of St Mark’s Anglican Church Darling Point.

    Dr Jensen’s final word:

    And when we don’t have a story to tell the next generation about the meaning and purpose of human life – a “reason to hope” – then we are only a hair’s breadth away from barbarism.

    At least the atheists were trying to offer something better than that.

    What a cuck. They were offering a far less compelling forum than, say, a religious ceremony (despite their conferences which resemble such ceremonies.).

    I mean, I get that atheists derive their worldview from science. They don’t believe and they don’t have ‘faith’ (in religious terms).

    OK, so what’s the point of an atheist conference? I guess those of a mind could have a conference on why we don’t think the Earth is flat, but that would be very silly for reasons I don’t think I need to speculate on.

    Many atheists evidently need a congregation where they can affirm their beliefs with other like-minded people. Why? Because science.

  77. Mark A

    Oh come on
    #2787377, posted on August 13, 2018 at 1:29 am

    OK, so what’s the point of an atheist conference? I guess those of a mind could have a conference on why we don’t think the Earth is flat, but that would be very silly for reasons I don’t think I need to speculate on.

    Many atheists evidently need a congregation where they can affirm their beliefs with other like-minded people. Why? Because science.

    Bingo, they are unsure and need confirmation in their non belief.
    Not unlike an Amway gathering to boost your confidence.

  78. JC

    Why the hell would atheists have a conference

    I know, there’s nothing to talk about.

    ——————-
    The things you learn
    We’re doing a tour of Oxford and went through the most eclectic museum. They have a musical instrument section in which they displayed a couple of Stradivarius violins. Other than the carvings and inscription there didn’t seem to be anything special about them. I then read the tablet like explanation.

    There was a big race going on to see who could perfect the best sounds with dimension and types of wood etc. in the making of violins. Stradivarius won and all modern serious violins and violas are exact replicas. The history of human adaptation is fascinating.

  79. JC

    Makka

    With your pet miniature poodle supporting , you argued the only way to reduce foreign born by 50% was through doubling the population. That’s so hamfisted dense no wonder you’re accusing people of lying.
    Guided by your draconian nonsene I showed how to reduce the number to 17%. Stop being a dickhead and apologize instead of calling anyone who rightly sees you as an idiotic liar. It doesn’t work after a while. Now stop talking to me as you’re a waste of time.

  80. BorisG

    Kinda nice to see the Turkish lira collapse. I have no doubt it’s been helped along the way. I hope the effects are brutal and quick so that the population can get rid of Erdogan and his type of chrony sooner rather than later

    I agree. Wholeheartedly.

    and start getting back to some sort of civilized normality again.

    This sounds like wishful thinking but hey everyone can have a dream.

  81. BorisG

    DrBG, you appear to be a conservative. Conservative thought is intrinsically linked to religion. See this recent essay. https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017/05/what-is-conservatism/

  82. rickw

    Have to say that Cairns looks pretty good. Haven’t been here for years. Very neat and clean.

  83. Tom

    The Mark Knight cartoon the fascist left thought police want banned (because it depicts the law and order crisis created by African gangs).

  84. Tom

    The Monday Johannes Leak ‘toon goes with a Paywallian story about a journo award named after a Sydney crime reporter.

  85. Tom

    A.F. Branco 2015 flashback. Nothing’s changed.

  86. None

    Atheists tend to be more pragmatically focused which might explain why scientists are much more likely to be atheists than the general population.

    Climate scientist maybe *snort* but it’s well known that many working in hard science have some form of religious belief. Nearly all the great physicists for example.

    Why do you try to understand human behavior as if it dictated by a moral code? How much have you read about human behavior other than what you here while sitting in the pews? How much have you read about animal studies which make a convincing case that morality, empathy, and altruism do not come from above but from below, that even in a famous game theory challenge it was found that it is better to co-operate than cheat all the time?

    The language of ‘should’ and ‘ought’ is the language of morality not animal studies. The crybaby atheists, particularly those favouring euthanasia who think they should not suffer is a case in point. I don’t see them crying that we should euthanize all wildebeest so they don’t suffer being eaten by lions. Frankly I don’t find wildebeest cooperating with lions in that regard either. I am aware of the recent attempts to find biological or similar grounds for altruism and the like. (Game theory always works nice on paper but real human behaviour kind of gets in its way). What you can’t find is the language of morality in (non human) animals much less the concept of God or worship of the same. Man’s religiosity is probably what distinguishes him from all other animals. It’s ok, you are free to believe what you like . No need to worry about god if you don’t want there to be one. Your wish is gojd’s command As I said hell is locked from the inside.

  87. None

    Mark Knight’s Josh bird is hilarious. I’ve always found Knight a bit Wishy Washy kinda lefty but the guy has definitely left the plantation lately. Good.

  88. Up The Workers!

    To “Oh come on” at 12.47am, who asked:

    “Why the hell would atheists have a conference, BTW?”

    Answer: God only knows!

  89. Bruce of Newcastle

    Very good triple from Knight!
    I suspect one reason that lefties are outraged by the gangsta one is they never read about the Sky censoring. Why would the lefty media report such a story?

  90. Eyrie

    Steve Trickler, we couldn’t have a fighter squadron called the Grim Reapers in Australia. Sounds far too aggressive and disrespectful of the enemy.

  91. Gab

    11 Amazing Catholic Scientists You Should Know, including Lemaitre the father of the Big Bang theory.

  92. JC

    From Gab’s link.

    Wow

    6. William of Ockham (c. 1288 – c. 1348

    Ockham’s razor!

  93. None

    Just Google Jewish scientists.
    Even Einstein a secular Jew could not help but infuse his work with god wonder. In fact he was as much a philosopher of science as he was a scientist.

    The greatest advances in science have come from the judeo Christian tradition.

  94. None

    Just Google J*wish scientists.
    Even Einstein a secular J*w could not help but infuse his work with god wonder. In fact he was as much a philosopher of science as he was a scientist.

    The greatest advances in science have come from the Judeo Christian tradition.

  95. JC

    I must say, since reading more about Alex Jones …… he accused the Sandy Hook families of creating a hoax…. what a lowlife piece of shit he is. Even if the families behaves badly they didn’t deserve that kind of defamation.

  96. Entropy

    That’s right JC. He was also a driver of that pizza gate morony which only served to give the MSM some moral authority.

    That said though, I prefer cockroaches where I can see them.

  97. None

    Galileo was heavily influenced and frequently quoted John Philiponus who was a sixth century Christian philosopher theologian grammarian scientist from Alexandria who established the principles of inertia (also used it to discuss planetary motions) and was the first to attempt to unified theory of Dynamics. Frankly the guy set off a mini scientific revolution even if a hundred or so years after his death some people tried to anathematise him for ( they’re wrong interpretation of his) views on the trinity. (Western) science and theology actually developed together until about the 19th and 20th century and despite the concerted push of a few to separate them ( another interesting story for historians) they remain dialogue partners until this day.

  98. Gab

    Gandhi read St Mark’s gospel when Gandhi was studying in England. It greatly influenced him to practise non-violent demonstrations.

  99. None

    Infowars I think had a really good British commentator – gosh I forget his name now – but Alex Jones was a total and utter fruitcake.

  100. 132andBush

    Infowars I think had a really good British commentator – gosh I forget his name now – but Alex Jones was a total and utter fruitcake.

    Paul Joseph Watson

    His series of “The truth about…” vids are great.

    The truth about gender

  101. None

    That’s him, thanks Bushy.

  102. None

    Sorry Gab but Ghandi was a fuckwhit like all syncretists are. A fuckwit who thought the
    J*ws should have committed collective suicide and crowed that they succumbed to Hitler anyway. Ghandi was a fuckwit and thank god millions of Indians ignored him. I sometimes wonder if that fukwit hadn’t been around maybe India’s past independence would have been different and we wouldn’t have had several million murderous fukwit terrorists in Pakistan. Jesus by the way was is no pacifist. When he told his disciples he could call down a legion of angels if he cared to, for example, I doubt that it was for a violin party. Let’s not remind the fuckwit Gandhi that Jesus himself was a Jew.

  103. None

    Sorry Gab but Ghandi was a fuckwit like all syncretists are. A fuckwit who thought the
    J*ws should have committed collective suicide and crowed that they succumbed to Hitler anyway. Ghandi was a fuckwit and thank god millions of Indians ignored him. I sometimes wonder if that fukwit hadn’t been around maybe India’s past independence would have been different and we wouldn’t have had several million murderous fuckwit terrorists in Pakistan. Jesus by the way was is no pacifist. When he told his disciples he could call down a legion of angels if he cared to, for example, I doubt that it was for a violin party. Let’s not remind the fuckwit Gandhi that Jesus himself was a J*w.

  104. None

    Also can be stated Hindu scriptures were his greatest influence and there is a tradition of nonviolent resistance in Hindu thought. It doesn’t matter, Ghandi was a fuckwit.

  105. None

    Good to see Brendan Nelson come out and support of Ben RS and denouncing the slur about violence towards a woman. That particular accusation sticks out and maybe the key is to who is behind this mud campaign.

  106. Top Ender

    Irate Husar staffers demand an apology from ALP head office
    Labor MP Emma Husar.
    Labor MP Emma Husar.
    BRAD NORINGTON
    ASSOCIATE EDITOR
    @BradNorington

    12:00AM AUGUST 13, 2018
    47 COMMENTS
    Former staffers of federal Labor MP Emma Husar want an apol­ogy from the NSW ALP’s head ­office, and for it to be acknowledged they were badly bullied by her, following an internal party report that said it “generally favoured” their “perception of events”.

    Ex-staff among the 22 who gave evidence to an internal ALP investigation into Ms Husar’s conduct also yesterday accused Bill Shorten of double standards, claiming he was quick to brand workplace behaviour by former NSW ALP boss Jamie Clements as unacceptable but appeared to stand uncritically behind Ms Husar.

    The Labor MP so far is sticking by her decision, announced last week, not to contest her seat at next year’s election. However, she also said on Friday, after the release of a report summary, that findings by barrister John Whelan for the NSW ALP should not have cost her her job.

    READ NEXT

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    Turnbull’s popularity plunges
    SIMON BENSON
    A local party branch supporter of Ms Husar from her western Sydney electorate, real estate agent Peggy Willcox, has started a “Bring back Husar!” petition on change.org seeking names to be presented to the Opposition Leader with the request he keep Ms Husar as member for Lindsay.

    Ms Willcox, recruited to the ALP by Ms Husar, said her political career had “unjustly come to an end”, highlighting Mr Whelan’s advice that “there was no basis for Ms Husar to resign from parliament”.

    Turning the tables on Husar accusers, Ms Willcox says in her petition preamble: “We should be encouraging more women to enter parliament NOT bully them out!”

    Representatives of former Husar staff who gave evidence to Mr Whelan said they were most disappointed with the report summary’s vague outcome and would request a meeting with the barrister. “We want to know in plain English what his findings are,” one said.

    “We also want an apology. We haven’t heard anything from Labor NSW or Bill Shorten.

    “No ‘Are you OK?’ Nothing. It is very distressing to us that Emma Husar seems to think she’s a ­victim in this.”

    When Ms Husar announced she would not run at the next election, Mr Shorten said: “This has been a very difficult time for Emma and her family.”

    After Friday’s report summary was released finding “merit” in allegations of “unreasonable management” and demands for “non-work” duties by Ms Husar, Mr Shorten appeared to continue his support. He said Ms Husar had made “the difficult ­decision” to give up a parliamentary career, putting family and party first.

    When Mr Clements was forced to resign as NSW ALP general secretary in January 2016 over allegations he had sexually harassed a Labor staffer, Mr Shorten spoke out against bullying and took responsibility for the party boss’s exit by confirming he had “stepped in” because “I wanted NSW to fix it”.

    He said then: “I have no tolerance for workplace harassment in any set of circumstances.”

    Mr Clements spoke about the Husar affair at the weekend, posting a series of tweets in which he pointed blame for the end of Ms Husar’s political career at an unnamed person in the ALP for leaking a confidential letter, in which Mr Whelan had set out allegations damaging to Ms Husar.

    “Labor people blaming the media for running it need to look a little closer to home and ask: who leaked it? That is who is in the wrong here,” he said.

    ALP sources speculate someone on Ms Husar’s side leaked the letter several days before she announced she would not recontest her seat, and that she was unaware of the leaking.

    Link – this time – a first – comments allowed.

  107. Top Ender

    Paul Murray, last night on his show, reckoned if Husar is still sitting behind Shorten when the House reconvenes this week, that this will mean she is going to try to roll back on her decision not to run again in her seat.

    If she’s elsewhere, Labor are no longer supporting her.

  108. Dave in Marybrook

    “I would love to stop hating myself.”
    Dastiyari with a bit of Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.

  109. John Constantine

    https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin

    Still trying to guess what happens when bitcoin mining becomes an inefficient use of electricity.

    Price around six grand and a bit makes charting projections interesting.

  110. Zyconoclast:

    Lenore Herrem said the agent at the gate was “upset and confused” when she presented her ID and boarding pass for her flight home to visit her parents Wednesday evening.

    Herrem’s gender presentation is female, but her gender on her Quebec health care card is marked as male. The accompanying five-year-old photo on the ID card is also presented as male.

    It was supposed to redo its ID to show the new sexually confused individual. This is a common requirement after visual transformation post surgery/accident/extreme weight loss.
    Ergo, by presenting the 5 year old photo of itself as a male but presenting as a female, it was setting up the airline which has specific ID rules to follow, for a doxxing lawsuit.
    Scam confirmed.

  111. C.L.

    It’s a dubious female victim smorgasbord at ABC Online this morning …

    1:

    Australia’s ‘most hated woman’ Kathleen Folbigg speaks for first time
    Convicted of killing her four children, Australia’s worst female serial killer, Kathleen Folbigg, speaks for the first time exclusively to Australian Story, as her legal team fights for a judicial review of her case. A fresh forensic opinion argues natural causes are a plausible explanation for their deaths.

    2:

    Australian women to launch class action over failed contraceptive device

    Dozens of Australian women with the Essure contraceptive device have experienced serious health problems. They are now part of a class action against its maker, international pharmaceutical giant Bayer.

    3:

    Woman goes blind in one eye from cosmetic filler injected in face

    A woman has gone permanently blind in one eye from having dermal filler injected into her face. It comes as surgeons warn of the risks associated with another cosmetic procedure, the Brazilian butt lift.

    4:

    Fact check: Has equality for Australian women relative to the world fallen in the last six or eight years?

  112. C.L.

    If you want to see how much Aborigines hate white people, see Bolt’s latest.
    A few of them have committed criminal offences using a carriage service and should be charged.
    I’m sure Australia’s feminists will take up that cause any moment now.

  113. None

    Murray on the money, Top Ender.

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fact check: Has equality for Australian women relative to the world fallen in the last six or eight years?

    Must need a Brazillan butt lift.

  115. Gab

    If you are interested, book your seat for the National Australian Tour by international guest speaker, Dr Quentin Van Meter, President of the American College of Paediatricians, which begins Monday August 13 and continues through to August 17.

    Dr Van Meter is a paediatric endocrinologist with a practice in Atlanta, Georgia in the USA and a clinical associate professor of Paediatrics at the Emory University and the Morehouse School of Medicine. He will be speaking about: “The Transgender Movement: Its origins & how social theory is trumping science.”

    To book your ticket to the event in your capital city click here.

  116. BrettW

    Agree with CL, great column by Bolt on abuse of Jacinta Price by gutless Aboriginal men, some of who receive funding from Government.

    Hopefully the relevant Department is now checking to make sure none ever receive a single cent from welcome to country etc again.

    I look forward to The Drum and Q&A covering this story.

  117. John Constantine

    What happens when interests associated with the Russian mafia and looting cartels are the only ones with the economic electric efficiency to mine bitcoin?.

  118. stackja

    Gab
    #2787436, posted on August 13, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Thank you.

  119. Tel

    “I would love to stop hating myself.”
    Dastiyari with a bit of Relevance Deprivation Syndrome.

    Worse than that, he’s facing the prospect of working a real job… possibly for years to come.

    *shudder*

  120. stackja

    Gender ideology harms children
    Conditioning children into impersonating the opposite sex is child abuse.
    Quentin Van Meter , Paul McHugh and Michelle A. Cretella | Mar 29 2016 | comment 215

  121. Up The Workers!

    How humiliating must it be, that for the 38th straight time, that well-known ventriloquist, Mr. Bull Shitten, has seen his wooden dummy, Halal Mal Turncoat, voted by the audience members as their “preferred Prime Minister”, over the bloke who pulls his strings and puts all the words and policies into his mouth?

    Still, as I recall, Gerry Gee was always vastly more popular than the late Ron Blaskett.

  122. stackja

    Australian women join Essure class action
    Belinda Tasker, Australian Associated Press
    25 minutes ago

    Australian women who suffered severe complications from the birth control implant Essure are signing up to join a class action against the maker of the device.

  123. stackja

    Stop Sudan ‘gangs’ talk: Melbourne mayors
    Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    Eight Melbourne mayors are calling for an end to fear-mongering over “African gangs” following a series of incidents involving young members of the South Sudanese community.

    Criminologist and Director of the Monash Migration and Inclusion Centre Associate Professor Rebecca Wickes said some Melbourne residents feel unsafe for no other reason than they’re being told to feel unsafe.

  124. stackja

    Strongest-ever earthquake hits Alaska
    Associated Press
    an hour ago

    Alaska’s North Slope has been hit by the most powerful earthquake ever recorded in the region, the state’s seismologist says.

    At 6.58am local time on Sunday, the magnitude 6,.4 earthquake struck an area 67 kilometres east of Kavik River Camp and 551km northeast of Fairbanks, the state’s second-biggest city. The agency says the earthquake had a depth of about 9.9km.

    AGW?

  125. stackja

    Push for migrants outside major cities
    Australian Associated Press
    an hour ago

    Skilled migrants would be provided with incentives to settle in regional centres and cities other than Sydney and Melbourne under a new population policy to be signed off by federal cabinet.

    Unskilled stay in Sydney and Melbourne?

  126. calli

    That particular accusation sticks out and maybe the key is to who is behind this mud campaign.

    A bloke in a dress?

    I had to Google “Brazilian butt lift”. Women are paying to have their bums look bigger?

    They can have some of mine for free. Idiots.

  127. Cassie of Sydney

    Hi All,

    Just thought I would share the following email I received from the St Vincent de Paul Society…..a patronising, vacuous, cliched and obtuse response to questions I raised in an email asking why Vinnies had employed a man (and not in a junior role) who is an unapologetic marxist, and who was very comfortable being snapped smiling at a party to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the October revolution and wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Lenin on it…a picture of a mass murderer.

    “Thank you for your email in regards to Dr John Falzon and the recent article in The Australian.
    Firstly thank you for your support of the St Vincent de Paul Society and the work that we do to alleviate poverty and disadvantage, it is greatly and always appreciated.
    We acknowledge your serious concerns with the recent article and understand that this has caused you some distress.
    I would like to assure you that the St Vincent de Paul Society stands very firm in being a non-partisan lay Catholic organisation that bases its mission in Catholic tradition and on the principles of Catholic Social Teachings – particularly respect for human dignity, respect for human life, participation, preferential option for the poor and vulnerable, human equality and the common good. The issues referred to in The Australian are not views held by the Society at this or any other time.
    I do advise that Dr John Falzon is on leave from the Society and is not acting as a spokesperson or advocate for the organisation.
    Ms Law, please be confident that the only mission of the St Vincent de Paul Society is to continue to assist as many people as possible facing poverty, disadvantage and homelessness. We have always done this in a non-partisan manner and with a strong and fair voice of advocacy – working closely with all levels and both sides of government.
    I do hope that this addresses some of your concerns and that you may kindly be able to continue to support our work.
    Please feel free to contact me should you have any further comments or questions.
    Kindest regards,”

    Don’t you love the statement “I do hope that this addresses some of your concerns (NO) and that you may kindly be able to continue to support our work (NO).

    Fuck off Vinnies (excuse my language).

  128. Ubique

    Interesting to say the least that accusations are being levelled at “top brass” over leaks to Fairfax in respect of Ben Roberts-Smith VC.
    How long before we see demands that the SAS conform to “community standards” of gender equity and a female CO is appointed?

  129. Dave in Marybrook

    It’s pre-publicity for his next book, Tel.
    His “real job” will be on the talk show and Writers’ Festival circuit, ie on OPM.

  130. Dave in Marybrook

    Are you going to put up with Vinnies calling you Ms, Cassie?
    Microaggression!

  131. Snoopy

    A woman has gone permanently blind in one eye from having dermal filler injected into her face. It comes as surgeons warn of the risks associated with another cosmetic procedure, the Brazilian butt lift.

    Can the Brazilian butt lift cause a brown eye to go blind?

  132. stackja

    Peddling fake indigenous art should be a crime, inquiry hears
    JASON WALLS, NT News
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    THE organisers of the Darwin Aboriginal Art Fair have told a parliamentary inquiry profiteering from fake indigenous art should be a criminal offence.

    The federal inquiry into “the growing presence of inauthentic Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander ‘style’ art”, held two days of hearings in Darwin as the DAAF kicked off on Friday.

    In its submission, the DAAF Foundation said the new law targeting rip-off merchants would be “a meaningful step towards stopping a very public and damaging form of exploitation”.

    Foundation executive director Claire Summers said the fair generated $20 million in revenue for indigenous artists last year, but this was only possible “if there is a clear agreement negotiated for the artist”.

    “Sadly, there are still too many designs that are being replicated without permission,” she wrote.

    “Much ATSI knowledge and cultural expressions are not protected under Australian copyright laws which only protect individual artistic creations.”

  133. Top Ender

    How long before we see demands that the SAS conform to “community standards” of gender equity and a female CO is appointed?

    You all realise of course the ADF has never had a female Chief of Defence Force.

    Nor has it ever had a [fill in name of real or imaginary oppressed minority here].

  134. stackja

    About 5000 Queensland box trees may be removed in Adelaide’s east because seeds pods are a slipping hazard
    Ben Cameron, Urban Affairs, Eastern Courier Messenger
    August 12, 2018 10:52pm
    Subscriber only

    ABOUT 5000 Queensland box trees could be removed across Adelaide’s eastern suburbs amid fears their seed pods are a major slipping hazard.

    Norwood, Payneham & St Peters Council has called for a report on the future of the trees, which make up about a quarter of street trees across the district.

    Councillor Kevin Duke called for the trees to be removed at a council meeting last week.

    “This is the single biggest issue raised by residents in aged-care facilities with several members sustaining serious personal injuries,” Cr Duke said.

    “The danger for residents slipping on these nuts on hard surfaces is akin to walking on ball bearings.

  135. stackja

    Defence leaders under fire over Ben Roberts-Smith allegations
    Phoebe Wearne, Canberra PerthNow
    August 13, 2018 4:01AM
    Topics: WA News Australia Defence

    TOP leadership of the Australian Defence Force could come under police investigation for possible breaches of Commonwealth law.

    Australia’s most decorated soldier, Ben Roberts-Smith, has urged Attorney-General Christian Porter to refer to the Australian Federal Police “unfair and baseless” articles published to malign his war service because they disclose possible breaches of Commonwealth law.

  136. Chris

    the growing presence of inauthentic Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander ‘style’ art”,

    Mmmmyes. My observation is that enormous swathes of inauthentic art are manufactured by aboriginal people.

  137. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The left is a disgusting cesspool of gullibles, idiots, morons, retards, perverts, deviants, and the mentally sick all herded by communist scum.

  138. Chris

    The left is a disgusting cesspool of gullibles, idiots, morons, retards, perverts, deviants, and the mentally sick all herded by communist scum.

    News at nine.

  139. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I had to Google “Brazilian butt lift”. Women are paying to have their bums look bigger?

    There’s even a competition for it

  140. mh

    Cold start around SE Qld this morning. Beaudesert minus 0.7 , Amberley minus 3.3, then further out at Warwick it was minus 6.2.

  141. Tom

    Brooks Koepka wins the PGA Championship — his third major of the past six. Tiger Woods finished second with a phenomenal scrambling 66 after hitting only five fairways, putting cripple Adam Scott third thanks to his fantastic iron play. Koepka is the hottest player in world golf — and mentally the toughest.

  142. Geriatric Mayfly

    How long before we see demands that the SAS conform to “community standards” of gender equity and a female CO is appointed?

    No idea what rigours SAS boys endure during training, but a female reaching the upper echelons strains credibility. A former white Zimbabwean hard man told me of one exercise involved. Dumped in the African bush for 10 or so days with a shirt, shorts, boots and a knife. A hat was added later. If you survive we’ll be back to pick you up. First task is to find water, then he stripped some bark off a boab tree and showed us how to plait a snare for small game. He was lucky. Dumped on an island, a crocodile’s nest was discovered and croc eggs became the plat de jour for the duration. No pen and paper to write articles for Fairfax describing the misery and inhumanity of it all.

  143. mh

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    “Seems like the Department of Justice (and FBI) had a program to keep Donald Trump from becoming President”. @DarrellIssa @foxandfriends If this had happened to the other side, everybody involved would be in jail. This is a Media coverup of the biggest story of our time.
    11:25 PM – Aug 12, 2018

  144. Rae

    accusations are being levelled at “top brass” over leaks to Fairfax

    Lol. None, whaddya say about this quality j’ism (my bolding)?

    Sources told The West Australian they believe

    Some military observers believe

    There is widespread dismay

    And this is telling:

    His request for an AFP probe comes after his failed Federal Court bid on Friday to win an injunction against Fairfax Media to prevent publication of detailed “false” allegations concerning his behaviour.

    Trying to put a lid on it after the court laughed at his lawyers effort last Friday. No sign of any PGiC style tweets yet.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No idea what rigours SAS boys endure during training

    I’ve heard Special Air Service Selection described as “an exercise in crushing the weak.” Also, I don’t know if the story is true, but apparently at one stage you could pass Selection, only to be told “You’re a good soldier, and you’d be an asset to any other unit, but we don’t think you are Regimental material.”

  146. mh

    JC
    #2787409, posted on August 13, 2018 at 6:29 am
    I must say, since reading more about Alex Jones ……

    Huffpo?

  147. H B Bear

    Mmmmyes. My observation is that enormous swathes of inauthentic art are manufactured by aboriginal people.

    More like all of it.

  148. H B Bear

    Dr Graeooglery MD QC providing court commentary now? How lucky is the Cat to have him onboard?

  149. Baldrick

    Dr Graeooglery MD QC providing court commentary now? How lucky is the Cat to have him onboard?

    We’re truly blessed to have somebody of that calibre that can pick up our spelling mistakes, punctuation errors and grammatical faux pas.

  150. None

    The left is a disgusting cesspool of gullibles, idiots, morons, retards, perverts, deviants, and the mentally sick all herded by communist scum.

    News at nine.

    Pictures at eleven.

  151. Geriatric Mayfly

    Here’s another one my Zim warrior related. Just the ticket for the wimminzes. Forgotten the number of lads, but on the ground lies a wooden electricity pole. They are to carry it so many kms. and anyone not on the pole at the end is OUT!. Then a meal of watery rice and gruel to celebrate the achievement. The dead baboon hanging in a tree outside the kitchen, always visible to these oppressed young men, was reserved for the special weekend treat.

  152. H B Bear

    Waffles 38th losing Newspoll passes with barely a mention as the Lieborals sleep walk over the cliff. Primary vote down, 2PP numbers completely meaningless. Somehow his Lordship even went backwards against Peanut Head in the Preferred PM.

    All looks good for the destruction of Lieborals when they are forced to the polls. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people.

  153. None

    Thanks for posting that reply from Vinnies, Cassie. I just got another envelope from them touting for more cash. I know what to do now.

  154. H B Bear

    Teh Australian Newspoll story – 693 comments and you’ll struggle to find a single positive one. The next election will be a Keating-style baseball bat one.

  155. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The dead baboon hanging in a tree outside the kitchen, always visible to these oppressed young men, was reserved for the special weekend treat.

    Heard the same story from one of the expats.

  156. None

    Skilled migrants would be provided with incentives to settle in regional centres and cities other than Sydney and Melbourne under a new population policy to be signed off by federal cabinet.

    The Liberals do not believe in freedom of movement and freedom of association anymore. Our regional areas are now chokkas full of ferals. There are no jobs. Unless you’re planning a career as an ice dealer or our recently released sex offender there is no future in our regions.

  157. C.L.

    the Monash Migration and Inclusion Centre

    LOL.

  158. calli

    On Vinnies, I’m torn because the people on the ground (volunteers) are so lovely and faithful. The trouble is that the money made in the shops goes off to the behemoth and is cycled through Admin.

    The next lot of goodies (almost down another dress size 🙂) is off to the Presbyterian Op-shop at Maitland. Much lower “overheads”.

  159. Old School Conservative

    Is Turnbull just incompetent or a treasonous tool of marxist ideology?

    Mr Turnbull on Friday made three references to a police investigation of Mr Roberts-Smith after Fairfax Media alleged he had subjected a female companion to an “act of domestic violence and intimidation” following the event at Parliament House in Canberra on March 28.

    However the facts are quite different.
    An ACT police spokesman ­refused to say whether an investigation had been launched or even if a complaint had been made by the woman.
    And further:
    Branding the stories a “catalogue of lies, fabrications and misrepresentations”, Mr Roberts-Smith said he unequivocally denied physically abusing any woman, and at no stage had he been interviewed or contacted by police. He told The Weekend Australian that he had not been present when the heavily intoxicated woman fell down stairs at Parliament House, coincidentally in front of AFP officers. (from The Oz)

    IMHO Turnbull is scum.

  160. Stimpson J. Cat

    Huffpo?

    New York Times.
    He has a subscription.

  161. Baseball bat style.

    “Don’t matters” hiding behind the door in the dark.

  162. calli

    Nice Photoshop, Stimps. They tried too hard though.

    The shield was a nice touch to hide the edge.

  163. None

    Oh yes Angus Campbell the closet crossdresser who is frightened by the idea that the army may be called on to kill people. I would not be surprised if that treacherous bastard is behind those slanderous smears againat Ben SR and while Christian Porter really should instigate an investigation, like I said before, he’s a fuckwhit loser AG – worse than Brandis in many respects – and nearly always wrong. He is welcome to prove me wrong but I’m not holding my breath.

  164. C.L.

    Claims this morning that Idris Elba is the next James Bond.
    Which would herald the end of the franchise.
    Bond was a Scottish man born to an old Scottish family. He wasn’t black.

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Unless you’re planning a career as an ice dealer or our recently released sex offender there is no future in our regions.

    Nobody I know with a skilled trade, or a profession, has had any difficulty finding work in the regions.

  166. Rossini

    Infidel Tiger
    #2787257, posted on August 12, 2018 at 9:04 pm
    As a cuntry we are forked

  167. None

    The danger for residents slipping on these nuts on hard surfaces is akin to walking on ball bearings.

    This is true but they are beautiful and they only drop berries for a couple of weeks a year. Councils are just too lazy to sleep that’s all. And they won’t drop their rates when they stop sweeping all together either.

  168. Snoopy

    Forgotten the number of lads, but on the ground lies a wooden electricity pole. They are to carry it so many kms.

    I doubt the electricity pole was wood, GM.

  169. C.L.

    Bunch of assholes:

    Footy Show slammed for ‘fat-shaming’ after making fun of former star player’s weight.

    Big Dave has had a troubled road in recent times; he doesn’t deserve to be mocked by shameless unmarried mother Erin Molan or semi-retarded space cadet Brad Fittler.

  170. None

    I thought Australia’s worst serial killer was that woman that killed her 8 kids up in Queensland.

  171. Bruce in WA

    Claims this morning that Idris Elba is the next James Bond.
    Which would herald the end of the franchise.
    Bond was a Scottish man born to an old Scottish family. He wasn’t black.

    If they go ahead with that blasphemy, the franchise deserves to die! I even hated Roger Moore as Bond.

  172. None

    Which part of the country Zulu?

  173. Snoopy

    Unite The Right 2.
    Can anyone tell me what’s wrong with this picture?

    It looked fine from the other side.

  174. Arky/Death, if in the course of your reading you come up with any reasons for believing in God, other than because most of the people you know do, or because you desperately want to, you can try them out on me.

    I’ve read the Aquinas proofs, I’ve read CS Lewis, and a lot of other stuff. None of it comes close to convincing me. I’ve given even Hindus a chance to sell me on their religion. It’s about as plausible as Christianity, which is not very.

    After you’ve failed to convert your atheist, give a Hindu a chance. Then a Muslim. Keep going with other religions. It might occur to you after a while that none of them are convincing except to those who want to believe.

    That is a really terrible argument. It’s like a Marxist-Leninist saying, “I’ve read a very brief summary of Hayek’s argument re spontaneous order (while not having bothered to read the voluminous detail that supports each premises and so on) and it didn’t even come close to convincing me. I even gave Oakeshott a brief chance but he was about as plausible as Hayek, which is not very”
    Or, “After you’ve failed to convert your [Marist-Leninist], give an [anarcho-syndicalist] a chance. Then a ‘[democratic socialist]. Keep going with other [ideologies]. It might occur to you after a while that none of them are convincing except to those who want to believe.”
    Except, it doesn’t at all follow that the failure to convince people that hold contrary positions demonstrates that one’s own position is false or vice versa.

  175. None

    Her father maybe honorable the Erin Molan is as thick as a plank which is the prerequisite for most females on free to air TV these days. Absolutely mandatory for employment with the ABC.

  176. H B Bear

    Queensland box trees are sh1t.

  177. Bruce in WA

    If Melboring goes ahead with its telegraphed 30 km/h speed limit, you can bet the rest of the country with fall over themselves to bring it in.

    It will be fun. Driving home yesterday in a 50 km/h speed zone and was passed on the left by a cyclist doing what I estimated to be 60+, slight downhill gradient. It’s going to be chaos in a 30 km/h zone!

  178. stackja

    Two people mauled to death by hippos in separate Kenya attacks
    A CHINESE tourist was killed by a hippo while taking photos in Kenya, just hours after a local fisherman was mauled to death in the same area.

  179. H B Bear

    Oxford Street in Leederville has a 30km/h limit. Most of the time you are travelling at 0km/h which gives you time to look at the shops that have closed after decades of trading to be replaced by restaurants as the place dies around you.

  180. C.L.

    The Chinese tourist probably thought hippos are lovable, chubby critters. Like a big pool toy.
    They are incredibly dangerous killers, of course.

  181. lotocoti

    Bond was a Scottish man born to an old Scottish family. He wasn’t black.

    Yet Scarlett Johansson wasn’t “allowed” to play a woman pretending to be a man because she wasn’t a man pretending to be a woman, or something.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Which part of the country Zulu?

    Regional Western Australia.

  183. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2787510, posted on August 13, 2018 at 10:05 am
    Queensland box trees are sh1t.

    I spent my yuff climbing them. My street was lined with them . No problems with the nuts. Of course, looks like inner suburbs have no nature strip.

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Nice Photoshop, Stimps.

    I was talking about the brand new flags still with creases but OK.
    😁

  185. Fisky

    “Sending migrants to the regions” is not actually a serious policy nor is it intended to be, any more than “better infrastructure planning”. These are just slogans thrown out by the Ponzi Lobby as excuses not to shut down the scam.

  186. Snoopy

    Speed limits are shit and ably demonstrate the contempt that bureaucrats and politicians have for the great majority of road users who match their speed to the prevailing conditions. The behaviour of the small minority of drivers who don’t is used as an excuse to implement ever more irrational speed limits which provide rich pickings government radar units and speed cameras.

  187. H B Bear

    “Sending migrants to the regions” is not actually a serious policy …

    Completely unenforceable. Might as well try and stop cats pissing in your garden. Won’t stop the flow of ALPBC puff pieces though.

  188. Dr Faustus

    Newspoll: Turnbull’s popularity plunges in wake of Super Saturday

    Certainly did plunge, Turnbull’s net satisfaction fell from -6 to -24; the Tuesday party room to consider the Turnbull Golden Wisdom GBR and NEG initiatives will be filled with Coalition bums twitching like rabbit noses.

    However the Newspoll also reveals that the ALP has made no headway from the Super Saturday result. Labor went backwards on first preference and 2PP – and at 51:49 2PP, the result is tied within the survey margin of error. On trend, Labor is still going backwards and the Coalition is pulling back from the depths of late 2017.

    And Shorten remains as popular as testicular cancer.

    Which all tends to confirm that the Super Saturday result was largely down to tactical fuckups by the Coalition rather than any electoral enthusiasm for the Shorten Class War Revival.

    Neither major party is making headway – both are on the nose with 60%+ of the voting population.
    Fuck them both.

  189. None

    Regional Western Australia.

    That’s a different country.

  190. Confused Old Misfit

    I doubt the electricity pole was wood, GM.

    Why Snoopy?

  191. DrBeauGan

    Except it doesn’t at all follow that the failure to convince people that hold contrary positions demonstrates that one’s own position is false or vice versa.

    Quite so.

  192. Cactus

    The James Bond franchise has not been that enjoyable for me lately. I really like Casino Royale, but each movie since has just been very confusing and don’t really get the point. At times Daniel Craig couldn’t shoot straight, had self doubts. The stupid sneaking in Skyfall at the end to get away from the baddies and they use a torch giving away their position. Too stupid.

    I want a blunt instrument of a Bond who drinks, smokes and is 1-dimensional. Some gadgets. Some nice bond girls. A super-villain who is trying to take over the world with an overly elaborate plan. A few snide jokes and one-liners. All executed in an exotic location with cool cars.

  193. calli

    I was talking about the brand new flags still with creases but OK.
    😁

    Oh, I noticed that, Stimp.

    I was more interested in light source and shadows. And why anyone would be stupid enough to parade around with a swastika (apart from Harry) without being given a bit of a tickle.

  194. Snoopy

    They don’t have the trees for it, COM.

  195. DrBeauGan

    I thought the idea of an atheist conference fairly ludicrous, and it seems most other atheists thought so too, hence it was cancelled.

    It’s clearly the God squad who are defensive on the Çat. Like most atheists, I’m indifferent to what sort of nuttiness you espouse. Except that leftism is very nasty, as can be seen from those committed to it. A very unpleasant religion.

  196. Confused Old Misfit

    Seattle plane thief’s apparent knowledge of loops, other dangerous maneuvers is a mystery: investigators/blockquote>

    Have these numpties never heard of flight simulators? Or even Google? You can probably download the checklists for the Q400 if the simulator model you have does not contain them.

  197. None

    Matt Rivitz in the Oz https://mobile.twitter.com/LordBromley/status/1028746826327896064/photo/1

    The sooner Australian companies learn to ignore social media the better and the more mainstream media exposes these leftards the better.

  198. DrBeauGan

    I want a blunt instrument of a Bond who drinks, smokes and is 1-dimensional. Some gadgets. Some nice bond girls. A super-villain who is trying to take over the world with an overly elaborate plan. A few snide jokes and one-liners. All executed in an exotic location with cool cars.

    I reckon Kingsman did it better.

  199. None

    Seattle plane thief’s apparent knowledge of loops, other dangerous maneuvers is a mystery: inyvestigators/blockquote>

    Have these numpties never heard of flight simulators? Or even Google? You can probably download the checklists for the Q400 if the simulator model you have does not contain them.

    The guy kept telling air traffic control that he was a gamer.

  200. Confused Old Misfit

    Screwed that up! Royally!

    Seattle plane thief’s apparent knowledge of loops, other dangerous maneuvers is a mystery: investigators
    Frank Miles Fox News

    Have these numpties never heard of flight simulators? Or even Google? You can probably download the checklists for the Q400 if the simulator model you have does not contain them.

    The other question that is not being prominently asked is how he got on the runway without being noticed by ATC. Must have been very close to the runway.

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    I thought the idea of an atheist conference fairly ludicrous, and it seems most other atheists thought so too, hence it was cancelled.

    But what about meeting fun New Atheists and forming new exciting friendships for electrifying conversations about Atheism?

    All this proves is that even Atheists don’t like other Atheists and cannot stand their company.

  202. RobK

    Are atheists the extreme form of agnostics?

  203. Jessie

    chris @8.55
    the growing presence of inauthentic Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander ‘style’ art”,

    Mmmmyes. My observation is that enormous swathes of inauthentic art are manufactured by aboriginal people

    Not sure what is meant by ‘inauthentic’, however…………..
    Amazing the prolificacy in elder abuse is not mentioned by the femina-nazis of domestic violence.
    Ophthalmology and Art: Simulation of Monet’s Cataracts and Degas’ Retinal Disease
    Our Fight for Equality: Where it Began

  204. Helen

    Jees Louise, what a fabulous result with your trimming, calli.

    You probably already have shared, but what method are you using – ketogenic, low carb, IF or Gulag?
    🙂

  205. will

    None
    #2787503, posted on August 13, 2018 at 10:00 am
    I thought Australia’s worst serial killer was that woman that killed her 8 kids up in Queensland.

    That was mass murder, different from serial murder.

  206. Oh come on

    Idris Elba will not be the last Bond. There will be a female and then a trans Bond before the franchise unceremoniously fizzles out.

    The trans Bond actor and film will win Oscars and that will fully deep-six the whole thing.

  207. JC

    Cactus

    Craig dud a fine job in casino Royale. It’s one of the best I reckon.

  208. JC

    Doc

    Have you been to oxford?

    What’s worth seeing……the old library in on the agenda this morning.

    I have to pretend liking the tourist bullshit because of wifey. I’d much rather be on beach viewing the talent than goo gooing over old books, but I must say oxford is a georgeous town from what I’ve seen so far.

  209. Snoopy

    Makka
    #2787301, posted on August 12, 2018 at 9:44 pm
    >
    >
    JC is always fkg lying, especially when he’s caught lying. Here’s the deal ; JC stated we can reduce foreign born in this country to 13% in 15 years. Despite numerous requests, he still has not posted a formula that can achieve this. NOBODY else asserted this, just JC. So the burden is on JC to provide the formula and nobody else.

    That’s not the issue. The issue is JC wants more immigration, loves the immigration ponzi. He will lie and obfuscate to argue this point forever. Because living like sardines crammed into a 3rd world shithole is good for GDP. That helps JC’s Qantas and Sydney Airport shares. Case closed.

  210. Snoopy

    I have been to Oxford. Unbelievable. I think that makes me a don.

  211. JC

    Snoopy Textor invigorates the site with high IQ discussion … again.

    Textor, what I want and what I get are two entirely different things. It takes a really stupid lowrent idiot such as yourself to think, or to persuade others into believing, that I or anyone else would come here to influence public opinion for personal reasons. That’s where things have go to at the Cat.

    I find it amusing how Textor and the battereds don’t talk directly to me. Spineless.

  212. JC

    Snoopy
    #2789869, posted on August 15, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    I have been to Oxford. Unbelievable. I think that makes me a don.

    Such childlike spitefulness, Textor. LOL

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