Open Forum: August 11, 2018

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  1. Cpt Seahawks

    The “Victorian” crowd booed every shot of the world champ against Whitlock once he was in the lead. The wizard was outplaying the master until this occurrence.
    Repeat, at the Melbourne darts masters the crowd was booing the world champion. Every throw, the whole crowd.
    Victoria, F. U.

  2. Bruce in WA

    Oh, in moderation …. just have to wait, I guess.

  3. Oh come on

    AwakenWithJP delivers the goods again:

    Being A Social Justice Warrior

    Funny stuff, mainly because it’s true.

  4. None

    Soupy is Laotian, not Chinese. Loathsome little shit.

  5. None

    Always sad to see old workhorses retire.

  6. None

    What was the ruby hadad update that disappeared at Blair’s? Anything to do with this? https://mobile.twitter.com/SerkanTheWriter/status/1028060987675398144

  7. Cpt Seahawks

    To all of Melbourne, stop taking the piss. So sick of the lefty crap coming from the deluded hell hole you call civilised society. Go down the miserable whirlpool of doom you envisage with your black dogs to nihilism for the good of the rest of us.

  8. None

    I’ve never understood why the media didn’t go after Turnbull for appointing Lucy to all these commissions and I really can’t understand why they are not all over him because of this https://mobile.twitter.com/tasplnpsg/status/1027781630868348929 ( yeah I know Labor is not going to say much because of their out-and-out nepotism but somebody’s got to start calling out this corruption and I thought it was our virtue signalling media’s job).

  9. Bruce in WA

    For late-night Cats.

    This is the Isle of man TT course on a BMW 1150GS. For those who don’t know, the GS is the adventure bike, the off-roader if you will. GS = country/road.

    Persevere for the first couple of minutes and wait until he starts to crank it up. Remember, big, heavy, dual purpose bike …

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Chris, thank you for the link to that lovely website of medieval poetry and other things of great interest to me and no doubt to others here. In hidden corners of the internet there are some people putting up arcane and special little blogs that it is a joy to unearth; like digging up buried treasure. I’ve bookmarked it.

    The internet is not all bad. It has Catallaxy, obviously a goodie, and quick access to news and information you can decide for yourself as to whether to believe, follow up, or whatever. It’s great for research too.,

    We are now in Bergen, a Hanseatic city. More on this later.

  11. Bruce in WA

    Loved Bergen. Didn’t have enough time there, unfortunately. Was particularly interested in the German fortifications/emplacements etc. from WWII that are still there, on the hill overlooking the city. Amazing place.

  12. Steve trickler

    Who is Alan Watts? He’s been dead since 1973.

    This new genre of music is flushing out some interesting characters.



  13. C.L.

    Donald J. [email protected]

    …..Will the FBI ever recover it’s once stellar reputation, so badly damaged by Comey, McCabe, Peter S and his lover, the lovely Lisa Page, and other top officials now dismissed or fired? So many of the great men and women of the FBI have been hurt by these clowns and losers!

    Solid gold.

  14. BorisG

    I find that difficult to believe. Every Roundup package, from the largest to the smallest domestic ones, have extensive use instructions and warnings attached to the container. You peel off the top layer and there it is, stuck on.

    Is it possible that these warnings were not there originally?

  15. BorisG

    Loved Bergen. Didn’t have enough time there, unfortunately.

    I loved Bergen too, and fjords too. But generally speaking I found Norway surprisingly boring and bad for tourism/sightseeing. They have almost nothing from past centuries, zero medieval stuff, no nice small towns. They do have amazing nature, but it is rainy and foggy most of the time, which makes enjoying nature frustrating. On top of that, driving is also frustrating since you have to often cross fjords by ferry.

  16. None

    All those useless media studies courses at universities might be better if they used Trump as a case study in effective social media management. Students might learn something useful for a change.

  17. Mark A

    BorisG
    #2786713, posted on August 12, 2018 at 1:23 am

    I find that difficult to believe. Every Roundup package, from the largest to the smallest domestic ones, have extensive use instructions and warnings attached to the container. You peel off the top layer and there it is, stuck on.

    Is it possible that these warnings were not there originally?

    No, sorry to disappoint you Boris, we used it on the farm soon as it was available. Actually early on it came with a booklet, in a plastic pouch, attached to the container, with all the warning you see today.
    If needed, I’m sure my brother could unearth one those, all tech info is filed away, never to be destroyed.

  18. BorisG

    with all the warning you see today

    hmmm, then the court’s decision is really strange.

  19. Steve trickler

    Another hidden gem, floating around on a server farm.



  20. Mark A

    BorisG
    #2786717, posted on August 12, 2018 at 1:49 am

    with all the warning you see today

    hmmm, then the court’s decision is really strange.

    Boris you are not a naive man, having seen the number of silly court decisions as you surely have, spec in the US, you are surprised?

    I’m surprised.

  21. BorisG

    I have read an article on this court case, and it is even more bizarre than I thought. It is not even proven that this can cause cancer.

    it may still be overturned on appeal, and may even get to the supreme court.

  22. JC

    Boris

    All these stupid cases get turned on appeal. Monsanto now sold to Bayer was the lords company on we earth

  23. JC

    Went out with our future in laws. The in law dude reckons the next census counting all temporary visa holders and EU inwards will show UK population close to 70 million. That makes the isle yugely overcrowded. FMD

  24. Mark A

    Arzenu Hungary. Google it. Gives you an idea how many j..ish organisations think.
    (this is re. the support by some j..ws of the restrictive NSW legistlation)

    Don’t be afraid, 99% in English.

  25. Siltstone

    A good Week in Pictures crop, thanks Tom.

  26. Mindfree

    One thing i am still trying to get my head around in Canada is paying for goods as the advertised price is Not the price you pay as their version of the gst (provincial plus fed tax) is calculated and added on top of the advertised price

    At least in oz its inclusive

  27. JC

    The US is like that , Mindfree. In my opinion it’s a bertter system because you then appreciate the tax the government slugging you. It’s why I support the idea of paying your own tax and not the employer.

  28. Spring is coming

    Thx Tom. Week in Pics v good. Favourite was Sky Raisins.
    Comments below pics are a must

  29. Mindfree

    Good point JC – just getting used to this system
    BTW the provincial taxes vary from province to province

  30. 132andBush


    Is it possible that these warnings were not there originally?

    No
    Even asking that question means you know nothing.

  31. Snoopy

    Green Activists have been legally pursuing Monsanto for years with little success for it’s GM crop varieties. Court action over Roundup is just another front in the same battle.

  32. Mater

    Is it possible that these warnings were not there originally?

    No, but clearly they still have a case to answer; the warnings weren’t on the front of the container accompanied by a grotesque photo.

  33. 132andBush

    Green Activists have been legally pursuing Monsanto for years with little success for it’s GM crop varieties. Court action over Roundup is just another front in the same battle.

    Exactly.

  34. Entropy

    No, but clearly they still have a case to answer; the warnings weren’t on the front of the container accompanied by a grotesque photo.

    And a requirement for the user to sign a form, in triplicate, every time they look at the container. Plus a Danegeld payment to geneethics and Greenpeace per ha.

  35. Snoopy

    TheirABC

    Australian Paper’s plans to burn litter for power raise health concerns in Latrobe Valley

    But of course.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    A week or so ago some cyclists were run over by a bunch of jihadis in Tajikistan. That they were cycling through a stan is pretty crazy as it is, but Bruce Bawer of PJmedia did some research on the couple and also read through the comments to the original NYT article reporting their deaths. His column is fascinating:

    Death by Entitlement

    On August 7, the New York Times ran a story by Rukmini Callimachi about Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, a young American couple, both graduates of Georgetown University, who decided to quit their humdrum office jobs and go on an epic bike ride and camping trip that would take them all over the world. … They biked through Kyrgyzstan and entered Tajikistan. It was in that country that their journey came to an abrupt end this past July 29, when five ISIS members deliberately plowed their car into the two adventurers

    This quote is just a bit of an intro. I’ve deliberately left out the fascinating stuff, there is so much of it. So you’ll have to RTWT. Quite breathtaking. In short: green-progressivism and atheistic humanism can be suicidal.

  37. Gary

    Oh come on
    #2786697, posted on August 11, 2018 at 11:34 pm
    AwakenWithJP delivers the goods again:
    Being A Social Justice Warrior
    Funny stuff, mainly because it’s true.

    Another channel on my list.

    Self deprecating comedy that was once dominant in Au MSM that look the edge off extremes. What we have now is dumbed down narcissistic expletives.

  38. Rossini

    A little bit of global warming please Mr. Prime Minister its 2C in inner Melbourne at the moment

  39. Tom

    Absolutely beyond belief:

    Most Victorians would vote Labor over the coalition at the state’s upcoming election, polling reveals.

    Labor scored 51 per cent on a two-party preferred basis, according to a YouGov Galaxy poll conducted for the Sunday Herald Sun.

    The Andrews government would lose three of its 47 seats if the results were applied uniformly across Victoria.

    But Daniel Andrews remains the preferred premier over Opposition Leader Matthew Guy across the past 18 months, 40 per cent to 33 per cent.

    Mr Guy’s law and order campaign is gaining traction with as many as a quarter of Labor supporters reportedly saying he’s tougher on the issue.

    The 1095 voters surveyed last week agreed cost of living issues were better off in the hands of Labor with 37 per cent approval rating compared to the opposition’s 35 per cent.

    “The poll confirms that the state election is likely to be close and hard fought,” YouGov Galaxy managing director David Briggs said.

    So the Liars caused the law-and-order crisis and the cost-of-living crisis, but voters want more of the same — evidence that a) a big majority of Victorian taxpayers are no longer net taxpayers — more than any other state — and b) journalism’s abrogation of its mission to protect the public interest is a civilizational disaster.

    Link.

  40. min

    How many do not bother to read the information about their medication that is in every box etc . ? About the same that do not read instructions on Round up I reckon. But not as many who do not read information re complementary medicines.
    Using machinery, driving and alcohol are all warnings on many medications but which most people ignore.

  41. Boambee John

    Mindfree
    #2786731, posted on August 12, 2018 at 6:30 am
    One thing i am still trying to get my head around in Canada is paying for goods as the advertised price is Not the price you pay as their version of the gst (provincial plus fed tax) is calculated and added on top of the advertised price

    At least in oz its inclusive

    If we had a similar system here, it might focus the kinds of those who think that the “rich” and “big business” pay all the tax on how kuch they pay themselves.

    Little eteps to getting Leviatan under control.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    Men are better at navigating than women, according to a massive study, but there’s not much for men to be proud about.
    Scientists at University College London say the difference has more to do with discrimination and unequal opportunities than any innate ability.

    Something we all knew anyway, but there’s no way the feminazis would let facts get in the way of a good whinge about de inequalidy.

  43. Gab

    Men are better at navigating than women,

    This has been established time and time again and is nothing new. Of course, to make it “new”, they’ve added the ubiquitous and hackneyed “da discrimination” bleating.

  44. OldOzzie

    Tom

    you missed this one by Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    H/T Time Blair

    AS SURE AS KNIGHT FOLLOWS DAY
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    August 11, 2018 2:15pm

    Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    Instead, genial Mark has become today’s outrage target for Twitter hatebabies who believe comparing him to Bill Leak is a crushing insult instead of the very highest praise:

    If you’ve been wondering where Australia will get its fix of deeply racist cartoons now that Bill Leak has gone, turns out Mark Knight has stepped up to the plate https://t.co/TsZ5Ijp1g7
    — John Carney (@johncarneyau) August 10, 2018

    How to discuss Mark Knight’s cartoon in the Herald Sun today without reproducing it, giving it further exposure and offending people who really shouldn’t have to put up with it
    — Jason Wilson (@jason_a_w) August 10, 2018

    Mark Knight a worthy successor to wear Bill Leake’s white pointy hat.
    — MsOptOutPraxis (@MsPraxis) August 10, 2018

    This cartoon is an absolute disgrace. What a despicable human being Mark Knight is. I truly believe we are in yet another moment in time where it’s perfectly acceptable to proudly wear your racism on your sleeve. I feel sick to the stomach https://t.co/GkeNInYVrt
    — Elisabeth Tuckey (@ElisabethTuckey) August 10, 2018

    Whatever happened to the Fourth Estate that once acted as check and balance? Instead we have this collaboration with tyranny. This cartoon is shameful. Mark Knight should take a long, cold look at himself.
    — D. Robert Digman (@DRobertDigman) August 10, 2018

    Has Mark Knight fallen off a balcony and hit his head recently? https://t.co/o8ajvmR1Sy
    — Cade Lucas (@cadelucas) August 10, 2018

    And @InsidersABC can do the right thing by banning Herald Scum resident racist cartoon attack dog Mark Knight https://t.co/8rp0UrWjte
    — Logan Mutant (@ToryHunta) August 10, 2018

    Australian national newspaper @theheraldsun prints a cartoon like this. This is fucking shameful. Australia is so out of touch it makes me sick to my stomach. pic.twitter.com/HeOmjAq2lz
    — Harry Cook (@HarryCook) August 10, 2018

    We should all demand an apology from the [email protected] and Mark Knight should lose his job. A more racist cartoon I have never seen. Write to the [email protected] pic.twitter.com/BW5PFbgNAF
    — KJ Activist (@kjactivist) August 10, 2018

    UPDATE:

    Wait. Is Mark Knight suggesting that the Transport Minister… ban Sudanese people from using public transport? Is that what he’s getting at here? In 2018?
    — Elizabeth DeLoria (@elizabethdanger) August 11, 2018

    These people are out of their minds.

  45. OldOzzie

    Tom

    you missed this one by Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    H/T Time Blair

    AS SURE AS KNIGHT FOLLOWS DAY
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    August 11, 2018 2:15pm

    Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    Instead, genial Mark has become today’s outrage target for Twitter hatebabies who believe comparing him to Bill Leak is a crushing insult instead of the very highest praise:

    If you’ve been wondering where Australia will get its fix of deeply racist cartoons now that Bill Leak has gone, turns out Mark Knight has stepped up to the plate https://t.co/TsZ5Ijp1g7
    — John Carney (@johncarneyau) August 10, 2018

    How to discuss Mark Knight’s cartoon in the Herald Sun today without reproducing it, giving it further exposure and offending people who really shouldn’t have to put up with it
    — Jason Wilson (@jason_a_w) August 10, 2018

    Mark Knight a worthy successor to wear Bill Leake’s white pointy hat.
    — MsOptOutPraxis (@MsPraxis) August 10, 2018

    This cartoon is an absolute disgrace. What a despicable human being Mark Knight is. I truly believe we are in yet another moment in time where it’s perfectly acceptable to proudly wear your racism on your sleeve. I feel sick to the stomach https://t.co/GkeNInYVrt
    — Elisabeth Tuckey (@ElisabethTuckey) August 10, 2018

    Whatever happened to the Fourth Estate that once acted as check and balance? Instead we have this collaboration with tyranny. This cartoon is shameful. Mark Knight should take a long, cold look at himself.
    — D. Robert Digman (@DRobertDigman) August 10, 2018

    Has Mark Knight fallen off a balcony and hit his head recently? https://t.co/o8ajvmR1Sy
    — Cade Lucas (@cadelucas) August 10, 2018

    And @InsidersABC can do the right thing by banning Herald Scum resident racist cartoon attack dog Mark Knight https://t.co/8rp0UrWjte
    — Logan Mutant (@ToryHunta) August 10, 2018

    Australian national newspaper @theheraldsun prints a cartoon like this. This is fucking shameful. Australia is so out of touch it makes me sick to my stomach. pic.twitter.com/HeOmjAq2lz
    — Harry Cook (@HarryCook) August 10, 2018

    We should all demand an apology from the [email protected] and Mark Knight should lose his job. A more racist cartoon I have never seen. Write to the [email protected] pic.twitter.com/BW5PFbgNAF
    — KJ Activist (@kjactivist) August 10, 2018

    UPDATE:

    Wait. Is Mark Knight suggesting that the Transport Minister… ban Sudanese people from using public transport? Is that what he’s getting at here? In 2018?
    — Elizabeth DeLoria (@elizabethdanger) August 11, 2018

    These people are out of their minds.

  46. OldOzzie

    Tom

    you missed this one by Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    H/T Time Blair

  47. miltonf

    So the Liars caused the law-and-order crisis and the cost-of-living crisis, but voters want more of the same — evidence that a) a big majority of Victorian taxpayers are no longer net taxpayers — more than any other state — and b) journalism’s abrogation of its mission to protect the public interest is a civilizational disaster.

    Tom it is beyond belief- the thing is, cultural Marxism aside, Andrews isn’t even personable.

    a big majority of Victorian taxpayers are no longer net taxpayers — more than any other state

    That’s interesting- long gone are the days when Vic was an industrial power house. But even as recently as 15 years ago automobiles where Vic’s biggest exports.

  48. Peter Castieau

    I sincerely hope that the Libs absolutely get punished over this $444 million to the GBRF.

    Could be wishful thinking on my part too.

  49. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastle
    #2786746, posted on August 12, 2018 at 7:39 am
    A week or so ago some cyclists were run over by a bunch of jihadis in Tajikistan. That they were cycling through a stan is pretty crazy as it is, but Bruce Bawer of PJmedia did some research on the couple and also read through the comments to the original NYT article reporting their deaths. His column is fascinating:

    Death by Entitlement”

    Thanks Bruce of Newcastle. Just read it. Great takedown by Bawer. Bruce Bawer is one of my favourite writers. He often writes for Powerline Blog and Front Page. He is a gay American living in Norway. He, unlike like a lot of gay men and women, has no illusions about about the dangers of Islam and multiculturalism. He doesn’t mince words.

    As for those two cyclists, it was also death by stupidity.

  50. miltonf

    I sincerely hope that the Libs absolutely get punished over this $444 million to the GBRF.
    Same- I never thought I’d be on KKK’s side.

  51. calli

    And a requirement for the user to sign a form, in triplicate, every time they look at the container. Plus a Danegeld payment to geneethics and Greenpeace per ha.

    I suspect that’s where it’s headed. Glypho can only be purchased by credentialled landscape trades/farmers, coz they’ve done *Cert V Safe Handling of Herbicides and Pesticides and Other Scary Stuff*.

    Which they’ve already done if they’re qualified. Which presumably the gentleman who was awarded damages was (being a school groundsman). It’s curious that they didn’t go the State for not supplying adequate training if he was not.

    Prepare for a black market or hoarding. 245D anyone?

  52. Entropy

    Men are better at navigating than women, according to a massive study, but there’s not much for men to be proud about.

    Hunters are better at navigating than gatherers. Quelle surprise.

    Scientists at University College London say the difference has more to do with discrimination and unequal opportunities than any innate ability.

    Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

  53. Roger

    Absolutely beyond belief: Most Victorians would vote Labor…

    Not if you’ve been to Melbourne lately.

  54. Peter Castieau

    I was watching Speers too miltonf, hence my post.

    Managed to flick back to the golf to see Adam Scott’s towering 5 iron into 16. Magnificent!

  55. OldOzzie

    Sorry Mark Night Cartoonhttps://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/67c8f39be407ba752ef1ee3c7c6368b7?width=1024

    And Tim Blair Copy if it is Paywalled

    AS SURE AS KNIGHT FOLLOWS DAY
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph

    Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    Instead, genial Mark has become today’s outrage target for Twitter hatebabies who believe comparing him to Bill Leak is a crushing insult instead of the very highest praise:

    If you’ve been wondering where Australia will get its fix of deeply racist cartoons now that Bill Leak has gone, turns out Mark Knight has stepped up to the plate https://t.co/TsZ5Ijp1g7
    — John Carney (@johncarneyau) August 10, 2018

    How to discuss Mark Knight’s cartoon in the Herald Sun today without reproducing it, giving it further exposure and offending people who really shouldn’t have to put up with it
    — Jason Wilson (@jason_a_w) August 10, 2018

    Mark Knight a worthy successor to wear Bill Leake’s white pointy hat.
    — MsOptOutPraxis (@MsPraxis) August 10, 2018

    This cartoon is an absolute disgrace. What a despicable human being Mark Knight is. I truly believe we are in yet another moment in time where it’s perfectly acceptable to proudly wear your racism on your sleeve. I feel sick to the stomach https://t.co/GkeNInYVrt
    — Elisabeth Tuckey (@ElisabethTuckey) August 10, 2018

    Whatever happened to the Fourth Estate that once acted as check and balance? Instead we have this collaboration with tyranny. This cartoon is shameful. Mark Knight should take a long, cold look at himself.
    — D. Robert Digman (@DRobertDigman) August 10, 2018

    Has Mark Knight fallen off a balcony and hit his head recently? https://t.co/o8ajvmR1Sy
    — Cade Lucas (@cadelucas) August 10, 2018

    And @InsidersABC can do the right thing by banning Herald Scum resident racist cartoon attack dog Mark Knight https://t.co/8rp0UrWjte
    — Logan Mutant (@ToryHunta) August 10, 2018

    Australian national newspaper @theheraldsun prints a cartoon like this. This is fucking shameful. Australia is so out of touch it makes me sick to my stomach. pic.twitter.com/HeOmjAq2lz
    — Harry Cook (@HarryCook) August 10, 2018

    We should all demand an apology from the [email protected] and Mark Knight should lose his job. A more racist cartoon I have never seen. Write to the [email protected] pic.twitter.com/BW5PFbgNAF
    — KJ Activist (@kjactivist) August 10, 2018

    UPDATE:

    Wait. Is Mark Knight suggesting that the Transport Minister… ban Sudanese people from using public transport? Is that what he’s getting at here? In 2018?
    — Elizabeth DeLoria (@elizabethdanger) August 11, 2018

    These people are out of their minds

  56. egg_

    Men are better at navigating than women, according to a massive study, but there’s not much for men to be proud about.

    Scientists at University College London say the difference has more to do with discrimination and unequal opportunities than any innate ability.

    Four out of five feminazis couldn’t find their way to the exam room?

  57. OldOzzie

    Sorry Mark Night Cartoonhttps://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/67c8f39be407ba752ef1ee3c7c6368b7?width=1024

    And Tim Blair Copy if it is Paywalled

    AS SURE AS KNIGHT FOLLOWS DAY
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph

    Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight deserves to win multiple awards for his brilliant depiction of the Victorian government’s warped priorities.

    Instead, genial Mark has become today’s outrage target for Twitter hatebabies who believe comparing him to Bill Leak is a crushing insult instead of the very highest praise:

    If you’ve been wondering where Australia will get its fix of deeply racist cartoons now that Bill Leak has gone, turns out Mark Knight has stepped up to the plate
    — John Carney (@johncarneyau) August 10, 2018

    How to discuss Mark Knight’s cartoon in the Herald Sun today without reproducing it, giving it further exposure and offending people who really shouldn’t have to put up with it
    — Jason Wilson (@jason_a_w) August 10, 2018

    Mark Knight a worthy successor to wear Bill Leake’s white pointy hat.
    — MsOptOutPraxis (@MsPraxis) August 10, 2018

    This cartoon is an absolute disgrace. What a despicable human being Mark Knight is. I truly believe we are in yet another moment in time where it’s perfectly acceptable to proudly wear your racism on your sleeve. I feel sick to the stomach
    — Elisabeth Tuckey (@ElisabethTuckey) August 10, 2018

    Whatever happened to the Fourth Estate that once acted as check and balance? Instead we have this collaboration with tyranny. This cartoon is shameful. Mark Knight should take a long, cold look at himself.
    — D. Robert Digman (@DRobertDigman) August 10, 2018

    Has Mark Knight fallen off a balcony and hit his head recently?
    — Cade Lucas (@cadelucas) August 10, 2018

    And @InsidersABC can do the right thing by banning Herald Scum resident racist cartoon attack dog Mark Knight
    — Logan Mutant (@ToryHunta) August 10, 2018

    Australian national newspaper @theheraldsun prints a cartoon like this. This is fucking shameful. Australia is so out of touch it makes me sick to my stomach.
    — Harry Cook (@HarryCook) August 10, 2018

    We should all demand an apology from the [email protected] and Mark Knight should lose his job. A more racist cartoon I have never seen. Write to the [email protected]
    — KJ Activist (@kjactivist) August 10, 2018

    UPDATE:

    Wait. Is Mark Knight suggesting that the Transport Minister… ban Sudanese people from using public transport? Is that what he’s getting at here? In 2018?
    — Elizabeth DeLoria (@elizabethdanger) August 11, 2018

    These people are out of their minds

  58. C.L.

    Dishonest imbecile Graham Ashton calls for the rule to law to be abolished …
    Literally – that’s what he calls for …

    Victoria’s top cop wants police given powers to issue domestic violence intervention orders.

    Victoria’s top cop wants police powers expanded to deal with domestic violence more decisively in the field…

    Graham Ashton is calling for his officers to be given new powers to issue intervention orders on the spot, circumventing the courts.

    “That for us would result in … less trauma for victims and certainly for offenders, more clarity around what the expectations are on them,” Mr Ashton said.

    It avoids the need for parties to have to come together at court, spend all day hanging around the court precincts together for what’s five or 10 minutes before a magistrate.”

  59. Roger

    Not if you’ve been to Melbourne lately.

    Rusted on ALP voter zombies + imported vote herd = things will have to get very bad before they change.

  60. calli

    Scientists at University College London say the difference has more to do with discrimination and unequal opportunities than any innate ability.

    How did they come up with that? How did they measure “opportunity” and “discrimination”?

  61. miltonf

    OK Peter- I just saw your comment. It’s taken me a while to stop kidding myself that the Libs were on the side of the ordinary decent person. Maybe they were once…

  62. egg_

    Which presumably the gentleman who was awarded damages was (being a school groundsman).

    Was the guy bathing in the stuff?
    As the report on Aunty said, many benign things are toxic at high levels of concentration/dosage.

  63. Picture caption:
    Byron Shire resident Premala Devi says she is often asked to cover her breasts at the beach.

    My eyes – they burn.

  64. calli

    C.L.’s done it again. 😳

  65. calli

    That lady needs Fabulon and the Linen setting.

  66. miltonf

    Rusted on ALP voter zombies + imported vote herd = things will have to get very bad before they change.

    Yep

  67. Peter Castieau

    Is it too early to award the internet to Calli for the day?

  68. miltonf

    It’s worth remembering that Menzies didn’t vote Liberal in 1974 (correct me if I’m wrong).

  69. calli

    Paywalled. Latest on the Persian Dwarf.

    There are other photos. Horror.

  70. min

    I have a photo that is better than Boris’s comment how do I send it to Cats?

  71. Roger

    That lady needs Fabulon and the Linen setting.

    She’s a good advertisement for not freeing the nipple.

  72. Stimpson J. Cat

    I need coffee before I open your links C.L.
    I will save it for later.

  73. I need coffee before I open your links C.L.
    I will save it for later.

    For the love of God man, don’t do it.

  74. Tom

    OldOzzie, I think you’ve answered you own question about why I “missed” Mark Knight’s brilliant cartoon: he still hasn’t dared to post it on Twitter because of the demented outrage from those on the left who want to cover up the African crime gang rampage that is tearing Melbourne apart.

    That is what you get when large slabs of the news media are silenced by political correctness and dare not report or comment on the truth. That is the whole point of political correctness: to silence dissent while the left’s agenda is rammed through against the public interest.

    In the next 24 hours, we will find out whether the lightning rod for leftist hate, Andrew Bolt, will abandon Knight and give in to the headless mob. I hope he doesn’t, but I suspect he might.

  75. Crossie

    Not surprised that Victorians want to keep the Andrews government. Anyone with brains has already moved north to Queensland and thus lowered the average IQ of both states.

  76. Crossie

    Of course the Knight cartoon must be banned by the Truth Ministry.

  77. candy

    Most Victorians would vote Labor over the coalition at the state’s upcoming election, polling reveals.

    I think the balance is tipped by how many Victorian public servants there are. Public servants of all workers have the best conditions, most leave, and highest salary increases. And their jobs are not so onerous and very well protected.
    People will not bite the hand that feeds them.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    As the report on Aunty said, many benign things are toxic at high levels of concentration/dosage.

    Salt being one of them. And wasn’t absinthe banned in France?

  79. egg_

    Insiders.

    Da VIC Energy Ministress won’t sign up to the NEG?

    Quelle surprise.

  80. Herodotus

    Death by Entitlement

    It’s amazing they got across so many countries and lived long enough to meet their ultimate doom.

  81. Peter Castieau

    Frydenberg again out there making a clown of himself trying to sell the NEG BS!

  82. Mater

    Rusted on ALP voter zombies + imported vote herd = things will have to get very bad before they change.

    African gangs have never had it so good:
    – A rich, unarmed society who large wet their pants if they see a machete or a gun (even in the shop cabinet), who have imposed rules upon themselves which restricts their right to defend themselves, their homes, their belongings and their children.
    – A police force full of physically questionable individuals who all have the contractual right to work only part time (down to one day a week if they wish), who are weighted down by unnecessary equipment, highlighted by high visibility uniforms and who (due to their lack of physical prowess) target the lowest hanging fruit who are the least likely to test their dubious capabilities…that is law abiding citizens.
    – A citizenry who largely hates itself and responds, to every evil delivered on it, by sitting in the corner rocking backwards and forwards, muttering repeatedly, “We are evil white people, we deserve this, we bought this on ourselves!”

    The meek might inherit the earth…but they’ll have it taken from them in very short order.

  83. stackja

    Piers Akerman: PM must ditch Paris accord and get real about energy crisis
    PIERS AKERMAN, The Sunday Telegraph
    August 12, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    PRIME Minister Malcolm Turnbull is a political pygmy standing in a field of dwarfs.

    The mere fact that a Bill Shorten-led Labor Party has now beaten the Turnbull Coalition in the past 37 (count them) Newspolls conducted since September 27, 2016, is a clear demonstration of his total lack of political clout according to the metric he personally cited when he ousted one of the most successful leaders the Liberal Party, Tony Abbott.

    Opposition leader Bill Shorten is not a genius. He is a factional war lord supported by and supportive of some of the most repellently thuggish trade unions ever to wield power in the Labor Party.

    He is determined to turn the clock back to the days when the unions made Labor’s leaders wait in cold corridors while the hard men of the Left-wing unions decided which policies they would approve for the parliamentary wing.

    Now he is also slavishly subservient to the anti-business policies of the Greens as inner-urban millennial hipsters decide the fate of traditional Labor electorates.

  84. cohenite

    Tom

    #2786725, posted on August 12, 2018 at 4:10 am

    Week In Pictures: Space Force Edition.

    Great stuff. And the Mark Knight cartoon about the reivers is brilliant.

    The only thing going to beat the left is money and power. The social levers must be bought back. I reckon $100 million would be a start. Now where can you get $100 million these days?

  85. cohenite

    Mater

    #2786804, posted on August 12, 2018 at 9:17 am

    Rusted on ALP voter zombies + imported vote herd = things will have to get very bad before they change.

    African gangs have never had it so good:

    That’s about right.

  86. Cassie of Sydney

    “Absolutely beyond belief:

    Most Victorians would vote Labor over the coalition at the state’s upcoming election, polling reveals.”

    I hope that the current stalinist Victorian government is defeated in November. However, will Victoria be lumped with yet another spineless, vacuous, scaredy cat Labor lite government under Matthew Guy as they experienced under Ted Beaullieu and Denis Napthine? This is the question. I believe that the reason why Guy and Liberals in other states don’t make any headway is because they are consistently Labor lite on bullshit such as multiculturalism and they refuse to get down and dirty when fighting the culture wars. The thing is, given what is going on in Victoria with the Sudanese gangs and with the absolutely venal crookedness of the Andrews government, Matthew Guy and the Victorian Liberal party should be streets ahead of the hunchback.

  87. Peter Castieau

    Barrie agrees that a Labor investigation into a Labor MP that found nothing to see here is okay.
    Fancy that!

  88. Snoopy

    Fauxfacts jismist Dana Macaulay:

    A top military law expert says the allegations about Ben Roberts-Smith’s conduct while serving in Afghanistan are “significant” and must be publicly addressed.

    But later in the article:

    Professor Letts said that while there may be some aspects of the Inspector-General’s investigation into the Special Air Service Regiment’s operations that must be kept secret for reasons of military security, “as much as possible” of its findings should be released.

    For what possible reason could Fauxfacts want the inquiry to publicly release allegations?

  89. Old School Conservative

    Like Charlie Brown trying to kick the Lucy-held football, I clicked on CL’s link.
    Same result. The uneasy tension between trust and betrayal, hope and despair.
    For those with time on their hands and a fondness for Charlie Brown, “The complete history of Lucy’s pulling the ball away”.

  90. egg_

    Barrie agrees that a Labor investigation into a Labor MP that found nothing to see here is okay.

    TheirABC’s Ron Burgundy is beyond parody.

  91. Baldrick

    Prepare for a black market or hoarding. 245D anyone?

    … and so it begins

    ABC Sydney ✔ @abcsydney
    The Cancer Council is urging Monsanto to come clean on any potential links to cancer with one of its popular weed killers following a major lawsuit in the US.

  92. Snoopy

    Elsewhere in McCauley’s report:

    Professor Letts said the law relating to unarmed civilians believed to be assisting the enemy – such as “spotters” suspected of relaying information about Australian troops’ movements – was highly contested, but that any use of lethal force against them would be highly restricted.

    “That’s an area that international law has been struggling with for many years,” he said.

    “It’s a very complex area and one that is not subject to universal agreement, even among Australia and our allies.”

    I suspect if international law experts were put in the position that Ben Roberts-Smith was they may find more unanimity.

  93. egg_

    The best contemporary entertainment is watching Lefties discussing ruinables Energy policy/the NEG and Energy prices.

    Ellen Fanning is a great litmus test.

  94. egg_

    Tim Fizzer on ABC TV New Weekend Breakfast: Trump666 is ruining the WTO!!11!

  95. Senile Old Guy

    ABC:

    Victoria’s top cop wants police powers expanded to deal with domestic violence more decisively in the field.

    That’s f*visit Ashton, but…

    Police acknowledged there were multiple times they should have acted to prevent an escalation of Mulhall’s behaviour, but failed to.

    In other words, they could have acted but didn’t. So why is Ashton calling for greater powers? He is diverting attention from his failures.

  96. Peter Castieau

    The bittered Savv has predicted a parliamentary vote whereby all members of parliament will vote for the NEG with the only dissenting voices being AbbottSatan, Bananaby, Craig Kelly and Bandt.

    Sadly such an outcome would no longer surprise me.

  97. Baldrick

    Barrie agrees that a Labor investigation into a Labor MP that found nothing to see here is okay.

    Barrie led the ABC lynch mob against Bronwyn Bishop, for much less.

  98. Snoopy

    So why is Ashton calling for greater powers? He is diverting attention from his failures.

    He’s gonna need a bigger squirrel.

  99. Eyrie

    “Which presumably the gentleman who was awarded damages was (being a school groundsman). ”
    Warning labels are OK but can he read?

  100. C.L.

    That is what you get when large slabs of the news media are silenced by political correctness and dare not report or comment on the truth.

    They’re gutless, Tom.
    News Corp, especially.
    They should have published Leak’s faux-contentious cartoon on the front page every week that Bill was being persecuted by the Chinaman.

  101. egg_

    Insiders.

    Da VIC Energy Ministress won’t sign up to the NEG?

    Summut about not locking in “high ambitions” technology.

    Freudian slip?

  102. C.L.

    Calli’s link again:

    Paywalled. Latest on the Persian Dwarf.

    Note the jokey vibe.
    Some collusion with communist tyrannies is a breezy bit of fun, right?

  103. Snoopy

    The social levers must be bought back. I reckon $100 million would be a start. Now where can you get $100 million these days?

    We mug the reef?

  104. Snoopy

    The bittered Sav says exterminating the crown of thorns starfish from the reef would be a good thing.

    Excellent! Then we can turn our attention to clownfish.

    #SlipperySlope

  105. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Victorian politics, I get a lot of crap from my old alma mater, Latrobe University, both bon-line and hard copy. Most of it begs me for money or, at best, urges me to buy Latrobe alumni-badged gimcracks.

    Anyway, a recent email had a link to this little university produced gem, Victorian Labor Minister Jacinta Allan reminiscing about her undergraduate days at Latrobe:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMSCzYqLSSU

    Despite having an honours degree – her honours year course work apparently involved a six months stunt an MP’s office in Canberra, so she must have had a very sympathetic supervisor – she come across as a bit of a ninny, but, hey, it was only Latrobe, and only the Bendigo campus, a former teacher’s college.

    What I really like about the vid – given recent events in Victoria – is her claims about how she learned to think critically, to analyse thoroughly and to do her own research.

  106. Baldrick

    Victoria’s top cop wants police powers expanded to deal with domestic violence more decisively in the field.

    I see what you did there Ashton. Nice distraction squirrel.

  107. Peter Castieau

    Will talking pictures comment on Knights train station cartoon?

  108. John Constantine

    Their ABC quoting maurice Blackburn personal injury lawyer saying that Australian councils now must make a hundred percent certain council roundup use doesn’t cause cancer.

    OH and S.

    For Stalin.

    Comrades.

  109. egg_

    Their ABC quoting maurice Blackburn personal injury lawyer saying that Australian councils now must make a hundred percent certain council roundup use doesn’t cause cancer.

    OH and S.

    Teh Great Roundup Stitchup.

  110. John Constantine

    Their ABC regional radio has a revolutionary freedom fighter activist presenter that declared on air that without doing politics studies at Bendigo uni, she would never have learned the right way to think.

  111. OldOzzie

    Sam Dastyari: ‘I would love to stop hating myself’

    JOE HILDEBRAND, Stellar Magazine from Sunday Telegraph

    IT’S three o’clock in the morning, the time of day that blues songs are written about and when nothing good ever happens, and a dark-haired 30-something is sitting in a casino hitting the bottle.

    Or, more specifically, the third bottle. He’s on meds, he’s boozing most nights, he’s lost the only thing he ever wanted and he’s out partying with anyone who’ll have him — a dangerous option for a man who is never short of mates.

    Just a few months earlier this short, slight, doe-eyed and baby-faced drunk was one of the most powerful men in Australia: the right-hand man to the probable next prime minister, the youngest man to have controlled the Labor Party’s levers of power, and maybe even the future premier of the nation’s largest state.

    But that is all over now. That dream is shot and its shattered pieces are barely strung together by a febrile mixture of prescription drugs, liquor and self-loathing.

    Oh, and possibly the greatest political mind of his generation. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Sam Dastyari.

    “I’ve done every drug under the sun, and they were all beaten by the euphoria you get from that relief.”

    So says Dastyari as he sits down for an exclusive interview with Stellar, remembering the good times.

    But he’s not talking about the time he was the youngest-ever boss of NSW Labor, nor the youngest senator in the federal caucus. He’s talking about the time he was forced to quit the Parliament in disgrace.

    It was late 2017 and Dastyari was already on a good behaviour bond after asking a Chinese company to pay his travel expenses, a relatively paltry $1670 and 82 cents. Dastyari joked at the time that he was a bit of a tight-arse.

    “I just didn’t think twice about it,” he admits now.

    There is a school of thought along the lines that Liberal politicians are the best of a bad lot, while Labor politicians are the worst of a good lot.

    If someone from a blue-blooded family becomes a politician, it’s a public service. They forsake their millions from the corporate world for the sake of the greater good. For them a six-figure salary is basically volunteer work.

    But for anyone from a poorer background, a job in politics isn’t a pay cut, it’s a bonanza. Politics is their ticket to a better life. As the ALP titan Neville Wran once said: “That’s what being in the working class is all about — how to get out of it.”

    And Dastyari was nothing if not a man on the make. He was born in Iran and came to Australia at the age of four in January 1988, that most celebratory year at the apex of the Hawke-Keating government. He was raised in Western Sydney, joined the ALP at 16 years of age and went on to become president of Young Labor.

    Soon he was a key operative at the NSW Labor HQ in Sussex Street, Sydney, in the heart of Chinatown. And while Melbourne has always been the spiritual home of Labor’s left-wing union base, Sydney has always been the cynical home of Labor’s right-wing party peak. If Melbourne was Labor’s heart, Sydney was its brain.

    And no-one was brainier than Dastyari. Even when he was a mere state organiser he could rattle off the key demographics and hot-button issues in every marginal electorate, down to each voting booth.

    Then at the age of just 26 he became general secretary, a role that includes keeping the peace at Labor conference by ensuring the right always wins while the left feels pure, fixing feral preselection battles, dividing up precious campaign resources, crafting perfectly targeted attack ads and running an endless program of marginal seat polling and qualitative focus groups to keep MPs in line.

    But the most important and dangerous thing the gen sec does is raise money from anywhere they can. And Dastyari was incredibly good at that.

    “I think my mistake is that I went into Parliament and kept behaving like the general secretary of the Labor Party running Sussex Street, and that meant managing relationships with party donors. And that was an incredibly stupid thing to be doing,” he says.

    “I should have walked away. I should have cut off all those links. You cannot be a parliamentarian and be behaving like the back-door party operator that I was.”

    In other words, when your job is to constantly get money out of people, sometimes you forget to stop doing it. And when he got stuck with a bill he didn’t like, he just instinctively got someone else to pay for it.

    “I shouldn’t have been the party bagman when I was a serving Australian senator,” he admits now in what would surely be seen by many as an understatement — to put it mildly.

    Having had to step down from the front bench, he was on the road to redemption when it emerged he had also met with the owner of that company to tell him he was under surveillance by security agencies.

    Dastyari says he only met with him to tell him they couldn’t be friends anymore because he was suspected of being a spy. In Dastyari’s version he was cutting him loose; in the national security version he was tipping him off.

    Either way, it didn’t matter. This was his second strike. And there were also his bizarre statements supporting China’s territorial claims. That was three, and Dastyari was out.

    In the lead-up to his emotional — and now infamous — press conference last December where he announced he was resigning from the Australian Senate, after the controversy over his connections to Chinese donors had made his position untenable, he called Bill Shorten, the man he had helped make Labor leader.

    “I think my exact words were: ‘I’m completely f*cked, aren’t I?’” Dastyari tells Stellar.

    Shorten said: “Mate, you were probably f*cked about 48 hours ago.

    For Dastyari, politics was a drug. And the next morning he quit it forever.

    THE FIVE STAGES OF DISGRACE

    Scandal is like a disease. It attacks a person, infects them, and then condemns them to isolation. At first it seems like it’s happening around you, but it quickly seeps through the skin.

    “Going through that horrible period definitely changes you,” says Dastyari. “It makes you aware of pain.”

    As he picks apart his psyche for Stellar, it unfolds there are precisely five stages of that pain.

    EUPHORIA

    First came the relief. He had been stalked and stoned for so long and on such a grand stage, that he was simply overjoyed it was over. “The moment I resigned from Parliament was probably the best I’ve ever felt in my life,” he says. “Just the euphoria of relief.”

    This is also the time that everyone rallies. The phone calls flood in. There is even a kind of Brotherhood Of The Damned. Others who have been minced by the outrage grinder resurface and reach out. Matty Johns, who Dastyari had never met before, took him out to dinner to make sure he was OK. Kyle Sandilands, the king of scandal himself, offered him a lifeline on his top-rating radio show.

    “I think I’m the only person in Australia who was taken out of depression by Kyle Sandilands and not put in it,” Dastyari observes.

    “It’s like being at your own wake,” he adds cheerfully. “And then two weeks later, people get on with their own lives and the calls kind of stop, and that for me was when that darkness really hit.”

    DEPRESSION

    The darkness was deep. “I spent six days where I didn’t leave my bedroom.”

    The sheer mass of all he had lost was too much for his mind to absorb, but worse still was the knowledge that he had lost it himself, that there was no-one else to blame. And so he soon started thinking the darkest thought of all.

    “There were certainly nights where your logic goes so out the door, that you suddenly start thinking things like: ‘Well, the people who love me would be better off if I wasn’t here anymore…’”

    Dastyari never got to the point of actually planning suicide, but he certainly contemplated it. He needed help.

    Eventually Dastyari went to see a doctor who prescribed him some hardcore antidepressants. But he also gave him a warning: the drugs would only treat the symptoms of his sorrow. The cause he would have to sort out himself.

    Still, it wasn’t all bad news. The doctor told him: “The fact that you’ve come here and told me you’re depressed is the only sign I’ve got that you’re not a sociopath.”

    Dastyari laughs at this. It’s almost as though he is genuinely relieved.

    DESTRUCTION

    Thanks to the meds, Dastyari was now able to leave the house. Unfortunately, thanks to the meds, Dastyari was now able to leave the house. He soon found himself out on the booze most nights with anyone who was around. He would typically go through two or three bottles of wine, plus beers and shots.

    “The breaking point for me was it was 3am, I’m at the casino — because it’s Sydney and everything else is closed — and I’m drinking heavily for like the third or fourth night in a row and I go: ‘Something’s gotta change.’”

    Being Dastyari, that meant everything changed. In an instant he gave up the prescription drugs, the booze and even food.

    For 15 days he didn’t eat and survived on literally nothing but water. The first 72-hours of withdrawal, he says, were the worst he has ever felt. Then, after that, came a kind of high.

    ACCEPTANCE

    And that brings us to where we are now as Dastyari sits down with Stellar, nursing a cup of tea. He is eating again and even has the occasional drink.

    While only a couple of months earlier he seemed almost physically broken, he looks good — and is back on the hustle, back in the game. And his latest obsession is disgrace itself. He is like a doctor searching for the cure to his own disease.

    And so he has come up with a whole TV show called Disgrace! devoted to asking the question: How does someone like Monica Lewinsky ever live a normal life again? Or Schapelle Corby? Or Sam Dastyari?

    He even calls the show his “therapy”. In the end the only way he could deal with his personal trauma was to turn it into a political problem for him to solve, and do so once more under the public’s glare. Even after being destroyed by politics and the media, he is still addicted to both.

    “For me, maybe this is the only way I can deal with it — the only way I can try to understand it,” he reflects.

    His wife has a different theory. She told him, “I’m not quite sure of what a midlife crisis looks like, but it probably looks something like this.”

    FORGIVENESS

    It takes nine months for a human being to be born and it has now taken nearly that long for Dastyari to be reborn. But rebirth doesn’t always mean redemption.

    Indeed, the worst part of his trials isn’t the public vitriol or national shame — it’s himself. Even as he struggles to understand and accept what he’s done, he still can’t forgive himself for doing it.

    “I’m not there,” he says.

    Yet he refuses to blame anyone else for his fate or allow himself the brutal absolution of suicide. He describes both options as “escapism”. Instead he insists on walking the hard narrow road down the middle, carrying his cross alone.

    “I don’t want pity, I don’t want forgiveness, I don’t want acceptance,” Dastyari says. “But I would love to stop hating myself.”

    Disgrace! premieres 8.30pm, Sunday August 19, on Network Ten.

  112. C.L.

    It wasn’t happenstance that a black man and the San Francisco jurisdiction were chosen to promote the Monsanto hoax.

  113. egg_

    Sam Dastyari: ‘I would love to stop hating myself’

    Husar’s stolen the freakshow limelight?

  114. H B Bear

    I think the balance is tipped by how many Victorian public servants there are. Public servants of all workers have the best conditions, most leave, and highest salary increases.

    Victoriastan is ground zero of the degree for permanent residency population Ponzi. This feeds a vast supporting cast of unemployable Communists and cardigan wearers. It also supports an entire industry of sub-dogbox builders feeding stamp duty revenue to the neo-Marxist state.

    The entire place is Teh Age come to life. It is like Fremantle with a population of 5m people.

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    African gangs have never had it so good:

    What you don’t see much of in these situations is the very versatile paddy wagon. Chuck ’em in and shut the door. From memory, they were chain wired on the inside, so maybe it is culturally insensitive to put these scumbags in a cage.

  116. H B Bear

    Oh, and possibly the greatest political mind of his generation. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Sam Dastyari.

    Bwahahaa. Corrupt, thieving, treasonous Persian dwarf couldn’t even keep his place in the Senate, Australia’s dumping ground for party hacks.

    Gotta have a bucket nearby reading these j’ismist puff pieces.

  117. Rae

    “Which presumably the gentleman who was awarded damages was (being a school groundsman). ”

    Warning labels are OK but can he read?

    Lymphoma doesn’t usually affect a patients eyesight. So, your question is likely irrelevant. This, which I posted yesterday probably had more bearing on the verdict (my bolding):

    Brent Wisner, a lawyer for Mr. Johnson, said in a statement that jurors had seen for the first time internal company documents “proving that Monsanto has known for decades that glyphosate and specifically Roundup could cause cancer.”

  118. Corrupt, thieving, treasonous …

    Fine list of prerequisites for a senator.

    Union boss: “Sorry Sam, you have to choose. The senate or the clink.”

    Sam: “Can I think about that for a while?”

  119. dopey

    PGA Championship
    Scotty second at -10. Jason Day -8.

  120. C.L.

    Girls being exterminated …
    Feminists gave a green light to this holocaust of slaughter …
    Now they’re blaming … sexism.

    In the SMH:

    The ‘missing girls’ never born in Australia
    By Aisha Dow

    A phenomenon of “missing girls” could be afflicting Australia, as a study of more than a million births suggests some parents could aborting unborn female babies or undergoing embryo selection overseas to have a son.

    If nature was left to take its course, it is expected that for every 100 girls born, about 105 boys will be brought into the world.

    But in findings researchers say indicates “systematic discrimination against females starts in the womb”, mothers within some key migrant communities are recording sons at rates of 122 and 125 for every 100 daughters in later pregnancies.

    Lead researcher Dr Kristina Edvardsson from La Trobe University said it showed gender bias persisted in Australia, despite laws banning people from choosing the sex of their child, other than for medical reasons.

    “We believe that some women may be terminating pregnancies after discovering they are expecting a girl and in other cases are travelling overseas to access non-medical sex selection services through assisted reproduction,” she said.

    Analysing almost 1.2 million births in Victoria between 1999 and 2015, the study found while the overall ratio of male and female babies born was as expected (at close to 105 to 100), there were notable exceptions.

    During 2011 to 2015, mothers born in China had about 108 boys to every 100 girls. The bias towards boys was much higher if they already had two or more children, with boys born at a rate of almost 125 to every 100 girls.

    Similarly, mothers from India had boys at a rate of about 104 to 100 for their first child. But after their second child, this blew out to almost 122 boys to every 100 girls.

    The rate of males born to mothers from some South East Asian countries was also more than expected.

    The pair already had three daughters, and the woman was pregnant again.

    “They wanted to have an ultrasound done and [then] decide whether they would have the child or not, if it happened to be a female,” Dr Aurora said.

    The GP refused to help them. He said when he saw the mother about six months later she was no longer pregnant.

    “I checked with her and she said unfortunately we were holidaying in India and there was a miscarriage,” Dr Aurora said.

    “I was pretty sure in my mind that it was a female and they aborted it.”

    There is now widespread global access to ultrasound technology to determine the sex of a baby, and Australian parents can find out their baby’s gender from within 10 weeks with a newly-available blood test.

    In India, Dr Aurora blames the entrenched preference for males on the country’s illegal dowry system, where people are often compelled to hand over large amounts of cash, goods or property when their daughters marry.

    The Indian government has estimated that two million girls go “missing” from its population each year due to sex-selective abortion and other forms of discrimination that lead to premature death.

    Yet this bias was not felt by all migrants, Dr Aurora said, and he believes gender selection is not a major issue in the Australian-born Indian community.

    Dr Edvardsson said after some migrants arrived in Australia they had smaller families, which could mean they were more likely to turn to sex selection to have a son, as simply continuing to have children until a male was born was not a feasible option.

    Gender selection through IVF is banned in Australia, except in cases where a child’s gender may help avoid the transmission of a genetic abnormality or disease.

    There are, however, companies that provide gender selection through IVF to Australian parents who travel overseas, while abortion providers may have no way of knowing if a woman is seeking a termination due to a preference for a son.

    A strong desire to have a child of a certain gender is not necessarily confined to select ethnic groups and many fertility service providers have called for governments to allow sex selection in Australia for the purposes of family balancing.

    Dr Jim Tsaltas, a clinical director of Melbourne IVF, said there was support for the use of technology in cases where parents already had two of more children of the same gender.

    Researchers will now embark on a bigger project investigating the causes and prevalence of prenatal sex selection across the country.

  121. Tel

    Just a few months earlier this short, slight, doe-eyed and baby-faced drunk was one of the most powerful men in Australia: the right-hand man to the probable next prime minister, the youngest man to have controlled the Labor Party’s levers of power, and maybe even the future premier of the nation’s largest state.

    Australia dodged a bullet, but I’m sure there are many more coming.

  122. Death Giraffe

    What is 245D?

    ..
    The unique bra size required for the elderly sunbather CL linked to.

  123. mh

    Rossini
    #2786748, posted on August 12, 2018 at 7:49 am
    A little bit of global warming please Mr. Prime Minister its 2C in inner Melbourne at the moment

    It’s the hottest year ever, what more do you want?

  124. Snoopy

    Or, more specifically, the third bottle

    If they’re not spirits it doesn’t count.

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh, and possibly the greatest political mind of his generation. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Sam Dastyari.

    Why am I left with the feeling that the ground is being prepared, for a comeback by the Perfumed Persian?

  126. Dr Faustus

    Disgrace! premieres 8.30pm, Sunday August 19, on Network Ten.

    He’s baaaack.
    There is no way Dastyari is planning on a new career fronting Shlockumentaries for Channel 10.

  127. mh

    OCASIO CORTEZ TELLS DEMS HER LIFE SHAPED BY ‘UNADDRESSED HISTORY OF IMPERIALISM’

    Democratic-Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who, as Breitbart News reported, was born in the Bronx and raised in the affluent suburb of Westchester, told Hawaii Democrats on Thursday evening that her life has been shaped by “an unaddressed history of imperialism and poverty.”…

    https://www.infowars.com/ocasio-cortez-tells-dems-her-life-shaped-by-unaddressed-history-of-imperialism/

  128. Entropy

    What is 245D?

    A very effective blend of chemicals guaranteed to kill even sock puppets.

  129. Myrddin Seren

    Disgrace! premieres 8.30pm, Sunday August 19, on Network Ten.

    by JOE HILDEBRAND, Stellar Magazine from Sunday Telegraph

    Joe Hildebrand on Ten.

    Any declaration of interest ? Probs not.

    The line between journalism and advertorial increasingly gets blurred in a media industry with too many aspiring journalists and too few jobs.

  130. Death Giraffe

    People being fooled by polls again.
    Andrews government is gone next election.
    So four more years of soft cock, useless, do-nothing Vic Liberal’s, then whatever virulent marxist nonsense Labor has morphed into after that.
    Malcolm also gone next election.
    So all good then.
    Our resolute course into the abyss remains steady as she goes, one remorseless ratchet left after tother.

  131. I have a parcel here, labelled “6 x genuine ACME anvils” – addressed to Wile E. Trumble.

  132. Myrddin Seren

    But in findings researchers say indicates “systematic discrimination against females starts in the womb”

    Lead researcher …said it showed gender bias persisted in Australia

    Researchers will now embark on a bigger project investigating the causes and prevalence of prenatal sex selection across the country.

    Don’t quite know how The Researchers are going to get there, but you can safely bet that the conclusion as to why people from countries with curious cultural attitudes towards female offspring bring those attitudes here will be: Old White Males and Patriarchy and Racism.

  133. H B Bear

    Wile E. Trumble.

    Possibly the dumbest Smartest Man in the Room. Sorry KRuddy.

  134. Snoopy

    jurors had seen for the first time internal company documents “proving that Monsanto has known for decades that glyphosate and specifically Roundup could cause cancer.”

    Really?

  135. John Constantine

    Their Julie Bishop says she will provide her complete support to prime Minister dastardly as his loyal deputy.

  136. candy

    Sam D. seems such a bubbly cheery fellow I tbimk his story is exaggerated. Probably hit the booze a few nights and lay around in bed feeling sorry for himsel for a while with a hangover but.

  137. Dr Faustus

    Manager of Opposition Business in the House, Mr Tony ‘Shagger’ Burke, lays out the ALP parliamentary MO for next week on Twitter.

    The moist Krispy Kreame has been appointed lead attack dog to rip new ones for Turnbull/Frydenberg over the $444 million GBRFoundation donation – now catchily named ReefGate. The good and great on the Left have been worded up to chime in in support.
    (It appears Mz K has been reading comments on the Cat in preparation.)

    The world will then fall in on Turnbull when the Coalition party room splits on the NEG.

    Always capitalise on self-harm.

    Turnbull will be practicing his best wry, ‘Forgive them father, for they know not what they do‘ grimace. That’ll sort ’em.

  138. candy

    Sam D. seems such a bubbly cheery fellow I think his story is exaggerated. Probably hit the booze a few nights and lay around in bed feeling sorry for himself, why me, for a while with a hangover but.

  139. Eyrie

    “Lymphoma doesn’t usually affect a patients eyesight. So, your question is likely irrelevant.”
    Fuckwit, the lymphoma would come after the exposure when he would have had to red the warning label, if he could.

  140. Snoopy

    The $444 million is gone, wasted, up in smoke, pissed away. It doesn’t matter who is managing it.

  141. Top Ender

    Slippery Sam doubtless hit the bottle while dreaming up schemes to get back into the spotlight.

    His made-up story is just part of that agenda.

  142. Top Ender

    ABC Web Poll:

    Does the US need a Space Force to guard crucial space-based US military capabilities, including satellites enabling the GPS and sensors that help track missile launches?
    Yes 56%
    No 44%
    229 votes counted

    Help them achieve the right vote….

  143. 229 votes counted.

    Wow. A hundred people interested in a poll at the $1.5 billion ABC.
    (Assume everybody votes twice)

    I am in awe.

  144. OldOzzie

    Ben Roberts-Smith: PMs warns of rushing to judgment

    The four prime ministers who oversaw Australia’s involvement in the war in Afghanistan have thrown their support behind the Special Air Services Regiment, amid mounting expectations that a secretive inquiry into alleged war crimes is set to recommend charges against some ex-Diggers.

    John Howard lashed out at small sections of the community which he accused of wanting to demonise the military, while Tony Abbott urged prosecutors to stay their hand, should credible examples of war crimes be uncovered.

    Kevin Rudd said Australians who watched the war from the “comfort of their livings rooms’’ were oblivious to the savagery of the Afghan conflict, while his Labor successor Julia Gillard spoke of the military’s “profound sense of service and sacrifice’’.

    The Inspector-General of the Australian Defence is conducting a wide-ranging “scoping’’ inquiry into persistent allegations that some members of the SASR and the Commandos committed war crimes, including murder, during the decade-long fight in Afghanistan. The inquiry is being conducted by NSW Supreme Court judge Paul Brereton and has been running since 2016. The inquiry’s terms of reference are classified.

    The Defence Force privately expects some allegations will be deemed credible, paving the way for potential criminal prosecution of some ADF members by the Australian Federal Police.

    The prime ministers spoke to The Weekend Australian last week, before Fairfax Media published new claims against Victoria Cross winner and SAS veteran Ben Roberts-Smith accusing him of bullying, intimidation and the mistreatment of unarmed ­Afghans while he was with the regiment. The report also accused him of domestic violence.

    Mr Roberts-Smith has categorically denied all allegations.

    Mr Abbott, the most hawkish of the four former prime ministers contacted by The Weekend Australian, said Australians should be “very, very slow to judge’’ the SASR, given the work they were asked to do.

    “I would be very reluctant to judge soldiers operating in the heat of combat under the fog of war by the same standards that we would judge civilians operating in the ordinary circumstances of Australian life,’’ Mr Abbott said. “The important thing here is if mistakes have been made is to take a remedial approach rather than a punitive approach.’’

    Mr Howard said that while military justice had to be respected, there was a small section of the community “ready to jump on any breaches by the military’’.

    “Some of these people cannot accept the incredible burden carried by our military forces,’’ Mr Howard said. “I support the application of military law, of course. I just ask that people bear in mind the very heavy strain under which our military operates.’’

    Mr Rudd said he was unaware of the details surrounding the ­allegations and that the facts needed to be established via credible, independent mechanisms “with no rush to judgment’’.

    “Our forces were operating under extremely trying circumstances, of which Australian civilians would have little if any idea from the comfort of their living rooms, against an enemy responsible for nurturing al-Qa’ida terrorists who murdered thousands of innocents on September 11,’’ Mr Rudd said. “As a nation, however, we are still subject to the laws of war. There is a reason for this. It’s to ensure Australian forces and civilians are accorded protections under the same laws where those protections may be needed in the future.”

    Ms Gillard said she did not want to comment while the Brereton inquiry was ongoing, but noted that as prime minister she had visited Afghanistan on a number of occasions. “I also ­attended the funerals of soldiers, who died in combat in that theatre of war. I carry with me to this day a profound sense of their service and sacrifice,’’ she said.

    The Brereton inquiry will probe the existence of a supposedly toxic culture within the SASR which allegedly saw a small number of its operators engage in executions, dubious battlefield shootings and other breaches of the laws of armed conflict.

    The inquiry is likely to examine what impact, if any, the special forces command structure had on regimental culture. It will also examine an oft-cited claim that the SASR was worked too hard during the Afghan conflict, with some operators doing up to 10 combat rotations.

    Former defence minister Brendan Nelson, now director of the Australian War Memorial, agreed with that. He said that over the past 20 years Defence planners had shown an increasing tendency to present the government of the day with war-fighting options that offered the greatest impact with the least risk.

    “That has fallen largely to the SAS and the Commandos and the supportive elements of the special operations command,’’ Dr Nelson told The Weekend Australian. “If the government of the day had a reasonable thought this would be a decade-long commitment I suspect there would have been scenarios other than the repeated use of the (Special Operations Task Group).”

    From The Comments

    – It should be a condition of allegations that the identity of the accuser is made public.

    – What do we expect our soldiers to do when they go to war? Make friendship bracelets? Let’s just be grateful that they fought so we don’t have to

    – Why would anyone join the military when this is how we treat returned soldiers?

    – wish I had 10% of the courage our SAS and Commandos have.

    Cowardly keyboard warriors demeaning our defence forces, that’s all it is.

    – Its about time for Turnbull to organise another Iftar dinner to consult with his preferred constituency on defence matters.

    – I am a longstanding Defence reservist with a ‘particular skillset’ which has seen the ADF call me up and deploy me overseas 7x in my career. My current contract ends in a few months, and I will not be renewing it because the changes I have seen in the organisation in the last 10 years mean I no longer trust the leadership. They are spending more time on painting their nails and wearing women’s shoes than in maintaining the forces’ hard won reputation for skill and valour. Our politicians have wrought this, at the bidding of the electorate. Western culture is rotting from within. Save yourselves, if you can, because Australia is sinking.

    – The left won’t be happy until they destroy our military.

    – And our country

  145. Rae

    What is 245D?

    A very effective blend of chemicals

    More than likely not. But nice try.

  146. Rae

    He’s baaaack.
    There is no way Dastyari is planning on a new career fronting Shlockumentaries for Channel 10.

    The future Member for Lindsay.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2786773, posted on August 12, 2018 at 8:30 am

    Picture caption:
    Byron Shire resident Premala Devi says she is often asked to cover her breasts at the beach.

    That reminds me.
    I’ve lost my Louis Vuitton crocodile skin suitcase.
    Anyone see it lying around?

  148. OldOzzie

    NEG demands ‘crass, calculating’, says Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg – Rachel Baxendale
    Reporter

    Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg says there is strong support for his national energy guarantee in the Coalition party room ahead of a vote on Tuesday.

    Mr Frydenberg’s comments come after the Victorian and Queensland Labor governments fell short of killing off the NEG at a COAG meeting on Friday, leaving the policy at the mercy of Coalition MPs.

    Victorian Energy Minister Lily D’Ambrosio on Friday declared “the single barrier to achieving that at a national level has always been the conservatives and the malcontents within the Coalition party room.”

    Mr Frydenberg quoted the Energy Security Board, saying Friday’s meeting had been “a big step forward” to the national energy guarantee.

    “We have to disassociate the crass, short-term political calculations going on in Victoria from the long-term national interest,” he told Insiders.

    “Victoria has been consulted every step of the way. They have been approving of the design and the process, but they get a few hundred emails in inner city seats from green voters, suddenly they are spooked.

    Mr Frydenberg said there had already been extensive discussions in the Coalition party room regarding the NEG.

    “I am confident that come Tuesday, my colleagues will again move forward to the next stage of the national energy guarantee,” he said.

    “I welcome (former) prime minister John Howard’s comments the other day supporting the national energy guarantee.

    “My colleagues have been briefed by the miners, the manufacturers, the farmers, the industry groups who say this is the only game in town to reduce people’s power bills.”

    Asked how he would describe the numbers in the party room, Mr Frydenberg said there was “strong support”.

    “The Prime Minister and myself and other ministers continue to talk with our colleagues,” he said.

    “My colleagues are focused on one thing, which is to reduce people’s power bills, and rightly so, and we have turned the corner.

    “Last week the wholesale price of power was $68. At the same time last year it was $101. That’s more than a 30 per cent reduction.

    “If Daniel Andrews and Victorian Labor want to put green votes in inner-city seats ahead of the reliability of their system and lower prices, then that’s a
    political price they’ll have to pay,” @joshfrydenberg tells @barriecassidy #Insiders #auspol pic.twitter.com/zH9AVOR2Pw
    — Insiders ABC (@InsidersABC) August 11, 2018

    “We saw reductions from 1 July this year in Queensland, South Australia and New South Wales.

    “There’s more to go, but the government’s interventions in the gas market and the other activities that we’re undertaking are making a difference and we will follow through on the ACCC’s recommendations, as well as the national energy guarantee.”

    Mr Frydenberg said there was a genuine threat of blackouts in Victoria if the NEG was not passed.

    “Last September, the Australian Energy Market Operator said there was a 43 per cent chance of load shedding in Victoria. That’s a euphemism for blackouts,” he said.

    “Victoria not only has the second highest prices in Australia but it also, following the closure of Hazelwood, which took 25 per cent of the supply out of the market, has gone from being an exporter of power, at times to now being an importer of power.

    On Friday, Mr Frydenberg rejected Victoria’s demand for the proposed 26 per cent emissions reduction target to be set by regulation, rather than legislation.

    “One of the key aspects of the national energy guarantee is the reliability mechanism, so if Daniel Andrews and Victoria Labor want to put green votes in inner-city seats ahead of the reliability of their system and lower prices, then that’s a political price they’ll have to pay,” he said.

    Asked whether he could live with the political price of people like former prime minister and deputy prime minister Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce crossing the floor over the NEG, Mr Frydenberg said he remained “very confident” that his colleagues understood its importance in delivering investment certainty and lower power prices.

    “I’m not going to be a commentator, I’ll leave that to you,” Mr Frydenberg said regarding Mr Abbott and Mr Joyce.

    [email protected] tells @barriecassidy there’s strong support for the NEG in the coalition party room #Insiders #auspol pic.twitter.com/THdq2ZU0Mw
    — Insiders ABC (@InsidersABC) August 11, 2018

    “I’m looking forward to a constructive discussion with my colleagues on Tuesday. They know how hard this is, and they know that Australia needs to break with the impasse that has dogged this policy in the past.

    “As the political battlelines have been drawn over energy and climate policy in Australia in the last 15 years, it has been the consumers who have been the casualties.

    “We’ve got to get prices down. We’ve got a number of mechanisms to do that. We are having some success already and we’ll continue to have more.”

    Two bills are set to be put forward this week: one relating to the framework of the NEG, which involves the states, and a separate bill legislating emissions targets, which will be debated by the party room before being put to parliament.

    ‘Why should Labor sign up to a blank cheque?’

    Federal Labor is calling for a 45 per cent target, rather than the 26 per cent target the government says would be reviewed in 2024.

    Labor senator Kristina Keneally said the opposition understood the calls for investment certainty.

    “We understand that the lack of certainty has been driving up electricity prices,” she told Sky News.

    “We also understand, though, that not having enough renewable energy and bringing enough renewable energy online, is also driving up prices.

    “We are not opposed to working with the government. In fact in the past we’ve offered to support their emissions intensity scheme, their electricity intensity scheme, we’ve offered to support the clean energy target.

    “What we need to know is whether or not the Coalition is going to support the national energy guarantee.”

    Asked whether Labor would be prepared to take the 26 per cent target on the table and campaign for it to be increased, Senator Keneally said it was not clear what was on the table.

    “You’re asking me to assess something where we don’t even know what we’re assessing yet,” she said.

    “We don’t know if (the 26 per cent target is) going to be locked in legislation, we don’t know if it’s going to be scalable under the national energy guarantee.

    “I mean Josh Frydenberg cannot stand in front of the nation and tell us answers to these questions. Why should Labor sign up to giving him a blank cheque?”

    “Labor doesn’t think we need to wait until 2024 to have a review.

    “We do not have a proposal. Josh Frydenberg cannot look you or the nation in the eye and say that, ‘yes, my party room supports this and I can get this through my own party room’.”

  149. Jessie

    Enjoyed reading The Disregard of Reality , particularly the pages of ‘The Wider Scene’.

    FYI Rafe
    Vaclav Klaus 5/2018 Resurrecting Peter Bauer in Budapest – Notes for a Conference

  150. .

    Graham Ashton is calling for his officers to be given new powers to issue intervention orders on the spot, circumventing the courts.

    “That for us would result in … less trauma for victims and certainly for offenders, more clarity around what the expectations are on them,” Mr Ashton said.

    “It avoids the need for parties to have to come together at court, spend all day hanging around the court precincts together for what’s five or 10 minutes before a magistrate.”

    He’s a real piece of work. I’d say he is an enemy of the people.

  151. Confused Old Misfit

    BorisG
    #2786713, posted on August 12, 2018 at 1:23 am
    … Is it possible that these warnings were not there originally?

    I used to sell roundup in my shop 20 years ago. The warnings were there then.
    They were there on Roundup and all of the other pesticides/herbicides commonly available for home and agricultural use.
    Even then we had an employee of a vineyard who was stupid enough to use his arm to stir in the glyphosate concentrate. And yes he got sick for three days.

  152. Rae

    Fuckwit, the lymphoma would come after the exposure when he would have had to red the warning label, if he could.

    No shit, racist.

    And do try to keep a civil tongue in your head.

  153. Chris

    What is 245D?

    A conflation of 24D and 245T that anyone grown up enough to remember the real Agent Orange should not need explained.

  154. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m drinking heavily for like the third or fourth night in a row

    Four nights in a row and he throws in the towel.
    What a f$cking p$ssy.
    God he is an absolute disgrace of a dwarf.

  155. Mr Frydenberg said there was “strong support”.

    Read as: Bitchops said “he had her full support.”

  156. Stimpson J. Cat

    I really hope Grigs didn’t get his cancer from Roundup.
    That would be unbearably tragic.
    I hope he’s traveling well.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sam D. seems such a bubbly cheery fellow

    Not all dwarves are jolly Candy.
    Don’t be so racist.

  158. .

    Even then we had an employee of a vineyard who was stupid enough to use his arm to stir in the glyphosate concentrate. And yes he got sick for three days.

    Oh dear god.

  159. Graham Ashton is calling for his officers to be given new powers to issue intervention orders on the spot, circumventing the courts.

    NEXT
    Graham Ashton is calling for his officers to be given new powers to hang conservative speakers on the spot, circumventing the courts.

  160. Eyrie

    Anyone see the bullshit story last night about the bleeding heart city luvvies taking groceries to the bush to drought stricken areas?
    No doubt that fucked the local retailers nicely while burning heaps of fuel in a disgusting virtue signalling display.
    If they wanted to help, just send money. Could have sent the fuel money too.

  161. Stimpson J. Cat

    mothers within some key migrant communities are recording sons at rates of 122 and 125 for every 100 daughters in later pregnancies.

    So we have Ethnic Women killing baby girls.

    Women.
    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

  162. Boambee John

    ohn Constantine
    #2786834, posted on August 12, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Their ABC quoting maurice Blackburn personal injury lawyer saying that Australian councils now must make a hundred percent certain council roundup use doesn’t cause cancer.

    Only a lawyer could make suchba scientifically stupid statement.

  163. Rae

    What is 245D?

    A conflation of 24D and 245T

    Yeah? No.

    245D. Anyone actually know what it is?

  164. .

    Rae
    #2786887, posted on August 12, 2018 at 11:15 am

    Fuckwit, the lymphoma would come after the exposure when he would have had to red the warning label, if he could.

    No shit, racist.

    You cannot even consider the implications of an illiterate black underclass that is used for political purposes. You’d probably lecture successful black men about how it is good for them or should not be talked about.

    Prick.

  165. calli

    Lol. I made a typo. Thanks for noticing.

    245T, stored in rusty old tins in many a shed. Just behind the sheet asbestos offcuts.

    Replaced by Tree and Blackberry Killer, amongst other things.

  166. OldOzzie

    Dude, She’s (Exactly 25 Percent) Out of Your League

    A massive new study of online dating finds that everyone dates aspirationally—and that a woman’s desirability peaks 32 years before a man’s does.

    Here are seven other not entirely happy takeaways from Bruch’s study:

    – In the study, men’s desirability peaks at age 50. But women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan.

    How Age Affects Online-Dating Desirability Among Heterosexual Men and Women

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A conflation of 24D and 245T that anyone grown up enough to remember the real Agent Orange should not need explained.

    Well said.

  168. Stimpson J. Cat

    a woman’s desirability peaks 32 years before a man’s does.
    women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan.
    men’s desirability peaks at age 50.

    Time to start looking for cats, ladies!
    Am I right?
    We haven’t even hit Prime Stimp yet!

    😁

  169. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    aliexpress are now collecting gst.

    What right does the Australian government have to get overseas companies to collect its taxes?

  170. OldOzzie

    calli

    Replaced by Tree and Blackberry Killer, amongst other things.

    Still have Tree and Blackberry Killer in the Garage, but prefer Neat Undiluted String Round-Up painted by Brush directly onto freshly cut Trees and Saplings – the only thing Strong Round-up Direct Paint can’t kill is Onion Weed – the Garden Cockroach Nuclear Survivor

  171. Death Giraffe

    We haven’t even hit Prime Stimp yet!

    ..
    Whippersnapper.

  172. Geriatric Mayfly

    What is 245D?

    Used from memory to kill blackberries. As a kid, I used to drown in the stuff (diluted) as I pulled the sprayer around the farm hunting out the nasties. All the fence posts had to be checked as birds squirt the seeds out when they perch there. Along with the more resilient bastards which refused to die from previous attacks.

  173. OldOzzie

    Typo – “Strong Round-Up”

  174. calli

    Onion weed is a result of The Fall.

    Also Cobblers’ Pegs. 🙂

  175. calli

    Tom’s WIP KFC chicken reminded me of this.

  176. Boambee John

    From CL at 1014

    But in findings researchers say indicates “systematic discrimination against females starts in the womb”, mothers within some key migrant communities are recording sons at rates of 122 and 125 for every 100 daughters in later pregnancies.

    Import sexist cultures, get sexism.

  177. Empire 5:5

    He’s a real piece of work. I’d say he is an enemy of the people.

    No question, but you don’t get to play Roehm without political cover at the highest level, cover from the same people who just had a bunch of their expendable operatives arrested for electoral fraud.

  178. Entropy

    Mr Frydenberg said there was a genuine threat of blackouts in Victoria if the NEG was not passed.

    Dear Josh Fraudenburg. As if the NEG will lower prices. Your manipulated models showing price falls while unreliable are given subsidies and prop ups are not credible.

    And the surest way to have blackouts in Victoria is if Queensland decided to stop selling coal powered electricity to southern states.

  179. OldOzzie

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2786908, posted on August 12, 2018 at 11:31 am

    What is 245D?

    Used from memory to kill blackberries. As a kid, I used to drown in the stuff (diluted) as I pulled the sprayer around the farm hunting out the nasties. All the fence posts had to be checked as birds squirt the seeds out when they perch there. Along with the more resilient bastards which refused to die from previous attacks.

    At a Mates Small Farm, we borrow a neighbour’s Goats and Set them in Electric Fenced off Blackberry Patches on Riverbanks and they did a superb job

    But Note – Using Goats on the Land
    by Paul West from River Cottage Australia

    The obvious solution was a biological control, and this came in the form of Elisabeth Larsen, goat herder and enviromental management consultant, and her goats. The goats were ideal for use on the farm as they were able to access the steep gullies and rocky areas more efficiently than a human labourer.

    The majority of the goats used on the farm were Boer goats, a hardy breed originally from South Africa and traditionally raised for meat. They are large, robust, drought resistant animals making them well suited to Australian conditions. The majority of the animals were de-sexed male goats known as ‘Wethers’. Elisabeth prefers them to Bucks or Billy Goats which can have a pungent smell. De-sexing also improves their temperament and makes them easier to handle.

    The primary weed species on the farm are Blackberry, Stinging Nettle, Lantana and Fireweed. The goats were used in an area of the farm that was overgrown primarily with Blackberry, though Fireweed and Lantana were present along with other miscellaneous weeds. It should be noted that the use of goats for clearing Lantana should be done on a case by case basis as some forms can cause toxic shock.

    When Goats clear these weeds their gut has the ability to breakdown and destroy the seeds of the plant meaning they do not pass through the animals system and re-germinate in their dung. This also eliminates the danger of seeds being spread between properties.

    Whilst the goats consume most of the Blackberry plant they do not eat the root stock or the very thick woody stems of the plant. As such Elisabeth removes these by hand and also helps the goats by opening up the very thick tangles to allow them access to more vegetation.

  180. Entropy

    I understand the natural sex ratio is slightly more boys than females anyway. Genes always find a way, and in boys’ case more of them are likely to die before reproducing. So the genetic imperitave makes sure there are more boys to start with.

  181. Entropy

    Oldozzie. Rae was being a smart arse. You are confusing 24D and 245-T together.

  182. Rafe Champion

    Liberty Quote

    Western civilisation has been transformed from the love child of Christianity and the Enlightenment into a malformed neo-Marxist culture where minority groups manufactured for political purposes are bestowed with special privileges by the state.

    — Jennifer Oriel

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    Actress Ruby Rose deletes her Twitter account after receiving heavy backlash for being cast as lesbian superhero Batwoman in new CW series

    The starlet faced heavy criticism after she was cast in the role, including that she isn’t a good enough actress and she isn’t Jewish, unlike the character of Kate Kane in Batwoman.

    Ha ha ha ja ja ja ha ja ja!!!

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Actress Ruby Rose deletes her Twitter account after receiving heavy backlash for being cast as lesbian superhero Batwoman in new CW series

    The starlet faced heavy criticism after she was cast in the role, including that she isn’t a good enough actress and she isn’t J$wish, unlike the character of Kate Kane in Batwoman.

    Ha ha ha ja ja ja ha ja ja!!!

  185. Boambee John

    test pattern, are you out there?

    At what stage will aborigines (not the white activists who parasitise on them, they are the cause of the problem) realise that their interests will be destroyed once a critical mass of Africans and middle-easterners have been imported into Australia?

    The parasite activists have a pecking order of favoured groups, and Muslims are at the top. Recent events in Victoria suggest that “African-Australians” come next.

    Both of these groups like to be supported by the taxpayer. When they cast their covetous eyes on the $33 billion spent on indigenous affairs each year, the activists will leap on board the new gravy train and the indigenous will become indigent very rapidly.

  186. Snoopy

    The starlet faced heavy criticism after she was cast in the role, including that she isn’t a good enough actress and she isn’t J$wish, unlike the character of Kate Kane in Batwoman.

    Barbra Streisand should have got that role. I reckon she could fake lezzo.

  187. Death Giraffe

    Actress Ruby Rose deletes her Twitter account after receiving heavy backlash for being cast as lesbian superhero Batwoman in new CW series

    ..
    Ruby Rose is a genuine and lovely person.
    Doing security in the Birdcage I saw her interactions with people, one of the few celebrity types who aren’t fake or up themselves.

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment, on the Oz article about Ben Roberts – Smith, claims the the Geneva Convention doesn’t apply in Afghanistan.

    I thought it applied to some, but not all – e.g. captured Taliban fighters were entitled to the protection of the Geneva convention, but not some others. Any of the bush lawyers here help out?

  189. rickw

    I thought it applied to some, but not all – e.g. captured Taliban fighters were entitled to the protection of the Geneva convention, but not some others. Any of the bush lawyers here help out?

    Possibly not, I think the convention has limitations to uniformed / recognised forces, hence insurgents / terrorists are not covered by it.

  190. Myrddin Seren

    Ruby Rose is a genuine and lovely person.

    Doing security in the Birdcage I saw her interactions with people, one of the few celebrity types who aren’t fake or up themselves.

    Mr G.

    Ruby could be in the running for playing Mother Theresa based on ‘niceness’.

    I am struggling to see how this tattooed stick insect is going to be a compelling ‘Batwoman’ though ?

  191. Death Giraffe

    Gee, lost a bit of weight hasn’t she?

  192. Boambee John

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2786932, posted on August 12, 2018 at 12:10 pm
    Comment, on the Oz article about Ben Roberts – Smith, claims the the Geneva Convention doesn’t apply in Afghanistan.

    I thought it applied to some, but not all – e.g. captured Taliban fighters were entitled to the protection of the Geneva convention, but not some others. Any of the bush lawyers here help out?

    My recollection is that you had to obey the Conventions in order to gain their protection.

    However, I’m sure the “international hooman rites lawyers” have done whatever they can to overcome that provision.

  193. Entropy

    DC can’t make movies. Making a lesbian batwoman won’t get the cinema goers queuing up regardless of how much girl on girl action there may be.

  194. rickw

    Import sexist cultures, get sexism.

    Surely not?!

  195. Boambee John

    rickw
    #2786934, posted on August 12, 2018 at 12:16 pm
    I thought it applied to some, but not all – e.g. captured Taliban fighters were entitled to the protection of the Geneva convention, but not some others. Any of the bush lawyers here help out?

    Possibly not, I think the convention has limitations to uniformed / recognised forces, hence insurgents / terrorists are not covered by it.

    Thete is a convention that covers irregulatlr forces, but it sets out some conditions that must be observed by them.

    From memory, a clear chain of command, which must enforce discipline and the laws of war, wear a distinguishing uniform or clearly visible visible emblem, weapons to be carried openly.

  196. Myrddin Seren

    DC can’t make movies. Making a lesbian batwoman won’t get the cinema goers queuing up regardless of how much girl on girl action there may be.

    It’s the CW TV franchise, not the Big Screen versions.

  197. Entropy

    Barbra Streisand should have got that role. I reckon she could fake lezzo.

    Batgirl the musical. Would have to have more chance than most DC movie ventures.

  198. Entropy

    I am striving to care, Myridden. I am sure I would be more entertained marking snarky comments here than watching it.

  199. Farmer Gez

    Fuckings lawyers could put the whole of society into an existential cul de sac if they insist on carcinogenic toxicity as the basis for chemical useage.
    Embryonic cells will mutate if exposed to any number of compounds.
    Coffee
    Perfume
    Shampoo
    Lemon juice
    Definitely alcohol.
    As we all know it’s about exposure and dosage.
    Exposing lawyers to ethics or honesty is guaranteed not to cause mutation.

  200. .

    Arky

    There is an XE ESP Falcon up for auction near Grenfell, NSW soon. It is not running and needs restoration.

    However, this blew my mind, despite perhaps getting less than half of what a good condition ESP may get.

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Falcon-1983/SSE-AD-5575394/?Cr=0

    1983 Ford Falcon GL XE Manual
    Private Seller Car
    $27,000

  201. .

    I mean, who would want that other than a museum?

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    And everyone is going after Bill Maher on Twitter.
    This is absolutely freaky.

  203. Myrddin Seren

    The starlet faced heavy criticism after she was cast in the role, including that she isn’t ….. J$wish,

    I guess Ruby could rush to a liberal ‘gog in Hollyweird and convert.

    However, one expects the same Twitter outrage herd would then launch in to full BDS mode about, You-Know-Whos and ‘from the mountains, to the sea….’ etc.

  204. H B Bear

    So you pay $27k to look like you are driving a boonger? Why not just grow a mullet and get a couple of $10 flannies from Big W?

  205. H B Bear

    1983 Ford Falcon GL XE Manual
    Private Seller Car
    $27,000

    Bogan superannuation.

  206. Steve trickler

    Elle
    #2786626, posted on August 11, 2018 at 7:34 pm
    Steve trickler, she is gorgeous … and all in black- an All Black! I like the music – Kiwi as Bro. Bledisloe next weekend. Can’t wait.

    Hello.

    She is gorgeous. Amplified, when another female says so. ( :

    The vision of her smiling in that photo booth reigns supreme. That will be the lasting memory for me. And let us not forget, that she’d be in trouble walking the streets of Paris today.

  207. Old School Conservative

    Bolt often gets criticised for going soft on certain issues or people, but he has done a fine job in quoting all the foul language and threats made against Jacinta Price. Naming the perps is good work too.

    The both deserve kudos for dealing with and exposing the hatred.

  208. Myrddin Seren

    From WUWT:

    The world is losing the war on climate change’
    10/08/2018 – by Dr Maarten van Aalst, Director, Red Cross Red Crescent Climate Centre

    The what ?!?

    It’s a real thing !

    Our overarching mission is to help the Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement and its partners reduce the impacts of climate change and extreme-weather events on vulnerable people,

    The Climate Centre helps to fulfill the ground-breaking commitments on climate made at the 30th International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent in November 2007 to:

    raise awareness on climate change
    ​provide humanitarian assistance
    improve response and preparedness
    decrease vulnerability of communities
    integrate climate risk management into policy and planning
    mobilize human and financial resources.

    Among other services, the Climate Centre provides expert guidance for people who do not have scientific backgrounds on the assessment reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

    Because explaining IPCC assessment reports is definitely the first thing I think of when I hear the phrase ‘Red Cross’.

    Check out the ‘Our People’ tab for the horde of troughers making a tidy living on this boondoggle.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bolt often gets criticised for going soft on certain issues or people, but he has done a fine job in quoting all the foul language and threats made against Jacinta Price. Naming the perps is good work too.

    An interesting piece – as Bolta says, certain parties dance for the Governor General, preach reconciliation, and use the vilest of abuse about Jacinta Price. Health warning, if you choose to read the piece – the c – bomb is dropped early, and often.

  210. Rae

    Lol. I made a typo. Thanks for noticing.

    245T

    Perfectly understandable. “T” and “D” are right next to each other on the keyboard.

  211. Confused Old Misfit

    Bolt often gets criticised

    He’ll probably get more of the same for naming and shaming these cowards.
    A campaign to motivate the feminazis in support of Ms Price should be mounted.

  212. Snoopy

    The Red Cross has been dead to me since TICKner.

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    Get ya magic climate change elixir here!
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  214. Geriatric Mayfly

    At a Mates Small Farm, we borrow a neighbour’s Goats and Set them in Electric Fenced off Blackberry Patches on Riverbanks and they did a superb job

    A coincidence. We had an old Billy, who turned up from nowhere and decided to stay. We used to stake him near blackberry clumps before all those wonderful chemicals arrived. There was only so much one Billy could do, given the rampant nature of this noxious weed. I am careful to whom I relate this story as some are aghast that poor Billy was treated so. He did have some luxuries though, like shirts and oddments pulled from the clothesline.

  215. hzhousewife

    The Red Cross has been dead to me since TICKner.

    All large charities are dead to me. I pay my own Private Medical Insurance, that’s charity, and I pay my taxes, that is also a charitable act. I do occasionally buy a raffle ticket for the local SES when they have a huge wheelbarrow full of tools as the prize.

  216. aghast that poor Billy was treated so

    Better than selling him into the se slave trade.

  217. Tintarella di Luna

    CHELSEA CLINTON WILL HEADLINE PRO-ABORTION RALLY OPPOSING BRETT KAVANAUGH

    Chelsea Clinton is yet another candidate for psychiatric care. Any woman who thinks killing their own child is somehow liberating or empowering really is mentally disabled full stop in fact that’s probably even an insult to most mentally disabled who’s still understand that ending an innocent’s life is wrong. Just wrong.

    Just catching up a bit — as for intellectually disabled young women having babies — indeed there are many who do and the first thing the caring authorities do is take their child, this happens many many times, the stats are cruel in this regard; given that the same authorities who, because the women are intellectually disabled will not allow them to have the tubal ligations which will prevent the pregnancy in the first place. The babies are taken because that’s the ‘right thing to do’ I wonder if the ‘caring’ extends to alleviating the physical pain of the milk coming in and the psychological effect of no babe in arms — I have seen first hand merciless bureaucracy at work in these circumstances.

    C.S Lewis –

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

  218. C.L.

    What is 245D?

    I’ve already answered that this morning.

  219. Tintarella di Luna

    The Red Cross has been dead to me since TICKner.

    Me too and now so is the St Vincent de Paul Society given the CEO John Falzon’s enthusiasm and support for Lenin and the 100 million dead collateral

  220. C.L.

    Well done, those four prime ministers.
    Rudd was especially strong.
    But why did it take a special feature phone call from The Australian for them to speak out?

  221. Rae

    The Red Cross has been dead to me since TICKner.

    The Blood Bank does excellent work.

  222. Mallee Miss

    Re Dr Falzon – Vinnies sent me the below response to my email about Falzon’s appreciation of Lenin. I think someone needs to have a discussion with them about the meaning of non-partisan:

    Thank you for your email received on the 4th of August in regards to Dr John Falzon and the recent article in The Australian.

    Firstly thank you for your support of the St Vincent de Paul Society and the work that we do to alleviate poverty and disadvantage, it is greatly and always appreciated.

    We acknowledge your serious concerns with the recent article and understand that this has caused you some distress.

    I would like to assure you that the St Vincent de Paul Society stands very firm in being a non-partisan lay Catholic organisation that bases its mission in Catholic tradition and on the principles of Catholic Social Teachings – particularly respect for human dignity, respect for human life, participation, preferential option for the poor and vulnerable, human equality and the common good. The issues referred to in The Australian are not views held by the Society at this or any other time.

    I do advise that Dr John Falzon is on leave from the Society and is not acting as a spokesperson or advocate for the organisation.

    Ms xxxx, please be confident that the only mission of the St Vincent de Paul Society is to continue to assist as many people as possible facing poverty, disadvantage and homelessness. We have always done this in a non-partisan manner and with a strong and fair voice of advocacy – working closely with all levels and both sides of government.

    I do hope that this addresses some of your concerns and that you may kindly be able to continue to support our work.

    Please feel free to contact me should you have any further comments or questions.

  223. min

    Self flagellation does not result in self examination . If one is so intent in kicking themselves they never get round to what did I do that got me into this predicament what can I do to Improve. So guess what they keep making the same mistakes.

  224. Boambee John

    Mallee Miss

    To the fanatics of the so-called “progressive” fascist left, partisan means you disagree with them. They are non-partisan because they are always correct – just ask them, they’ll tell you.

  225. Boambee John

    And if you don’t agree with them, they will dox, black ban, imprison or kill you.

  226. Chris

    Atlantic article on cognitive biases
    Interesting, explores a controversy in the critical thinking and stats set over whether people can learn to control those biases.
    Enjoyable nod to the New Agent Orange too:

    Or let’s say there is an officeholder I despise for reasons of temperament, behavior, and ideology. And let’s further say that under this person’s administration, the national economy is performing well. Will I be able to dislodge my powerful confirmation bias and allow the possibility that the person deserves some credit?

  227. cohenite

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #2786957, posted on August 12, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    Bolt often gets criticised for going soft on certain issues or people, but he has done a fine job in quoting all the foul language and threats made against Jacinta Price. Naming the perps is good work too.

    Jesus H Christ. These comments constitute threats. But of course the wallopers won’t act unless there is a complaint and maybe even not then and Jacinta, like all conservatives, and good person that she is, won’t make a complaint.

  228. Mallee Miss

    And if you don’t agree with them, they will dox, black ban, imprison or kill you
    Boambee John – I fear that Australia is on a precipice, but Vinnies can be non-partisan without my donations. I might start donating more to causes such as Peter Ridd etc. As a recently retired individual I might also make better use of my time by starting to call out some of the crap that happens in govt.

  229. Rae

    Me too and now so is the St Vincent de Paul Society given the CEO John Falzon’s enthusiasm and support for Lenin and the 100 million dead collateral

    So. Falzon has been outspoken about inequality, as one could reasonably expect from a CEO of St Vincent de Paul. And he once wore a T-shirt with a drawing of Lenins on it. How does that lead to “support for Lenin and the 100 million dead collateral”?

  230. Tintarella di Luna

    What is 245D?

    ..
    The unique bra size required for the elderly sunbather CL linked to.

    Was there a trigger warning with C.L.’s original post of that horrendous picture? Nearly brought up my polenta and pollo alla cacciatora lunch, nearly.

  231. .

    How does that lead to “support for Lenin and the 100 million dead collateral”?

    Soon you’ll be asking how shoving your hand up your arse makes your fingers smell like shit.

  232. Filbert

    How much longer do we have to put up with the Aldi troll?
    Days, weeks… not months surely?

  233. Tintarella di Luna

    Mallee Miss
    #2786974, posted on August 12, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Hi Mallee Miss, I hope you have highlighted their paragraph thanking you for your past support and re-assured them that your support is now to remain in the past tense given that the organisation appears to do no due diligence on the people it appoints to be the very public face of the Organisation.

    We have yet to have received a response. Will keep you posted on that.

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