Open Forum: August 18, 2018

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  1. Tintarella di Luna

    “SAS Didn’t go to pick Flowers” –

    The problem for Ben Roberts-Smith is that he survived – he didn’t die in that hell-hole. Burned in my mind forever is this image of Sergeant Brett Woods’ widow collapsing in grief at his funeral in Sydney – No they didn’t go to pick flowers and those that are pursuing Ben Roberts-Smith obviously wanted him to be pushing up daisies so he’d be able to rest in peace.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    The puffins here had orange beaks to match their legs

    Trump birds!

    Raptors don’t get on so well at Chez Bruce. A few days ago male house magpie took on a collared sparrowhawk in aerial combat all by himself. He won, fortunately. But it was a nail-biting sight.

  3. Snoopy

    Steve trickler

    #2792524, posted on August 18, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    Well done, DL. Not newsworthy though. Apparently.

  4. John Constantine

    Anybody in need of a chill to run up their spine:

    We see their turnfailure befuddled and unable to cope with the way things are turning out.

    Australia trusted their turnbullites to double house prices and mortgages, on their election winning machine promise that they would mass import and drop from helicopters into the outback even, as many house renters from the third world as it took to make the boom foolproof.

    The last leg of their house Ponzi was turnbulls million renters on visas lawyers loophole.

    Dope on a rope.

    Comrades.

  5. Tel

    Almost 4 million new jobs have been created since President Trump’s election.

    The UNemployment rate looks good but the Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate has not turned around so I wouldn’t say they situation is exactly spectacular.

    I will give Trump his dues though: the Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate has at least stopped falling over the past 2 years, so things are not getting worse in that respect (it was falling continuously under Obama). Let’s see if Trump can get it to go upwards for a change.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART/

  6. Infidel Tiger

    A HARDWORKING father from Riverwood in Sydney’s south is ecstatic after discovering the Powerball ticket he had been carrying in his wallet for the past two days was worth $50 million.

    The shocked Sydney man was one of the two division one winners nationally in Thursday’s $100 million Powerball draw.

    The other division one winner from the draw was a Melbourne man in his 20s, who discovered his good fortune yesterday morning.

    Speaking to a NSW Lotteries official, the elated man expressed his disbelief at his $50 million payday.

    “Oh yeah mate, I’m in a bit of shock to be honest,” he said.

    “It’s just been in my wallet the whole time. I’m guarding this ticket with my life.

    “I didn’t scream at the news. I won’t scream until I have it all in my hand!”

    He said he will use his windfall to retire early and set his loved ones up for the future.

    Too busy at work to know he has won $50million.

    Good stuff.

  7. Infidel Tiger

    The UNemployment rate looks good but the Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate has not turned around so I wouldn’t say they situation is exactly spectacular.

    The male participation rate is at historic lows.

    Almost a hundred million Americans who should be working, aren’t.

    It’s cultural suicide and is happening here too. We just shove them on the disability or the NDIS.

  8. testpattern

    I hadn’t realised just how much some parents are willing to pay for math tutoring. The eldest, who’s into his second semester at Uni, is tutoring a group of year 7 math students once a week. We thought great, pocket money, learn the value of money etc. Not seed capital. A Russian mum even offered to fly him to their semi rural property by chopper. I may have to humbug him til he coughs up enough to cover my latest tenement management bill.

  9. Snoopy

    The male participation rate is at historic lows.

    A small price to pay for equality.

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Accused car thief shot by police after ramming faces Perth court
    Kate CampbellPerthNow
    August 18, 2018 3:23PM
    Kate Campbell

    THE mother of a man shot by police in the shoulder after he allegedly repeatedly rammed a police vehicle with a stolen car in Seville Grove says there was “no need” for police to open fire against her son, especially in front of his teenage daughter.

    Besides nursing his left arm in a sling, Armadale father of six Bruce Niel Brockman, 31, appeared otherwise calm and collected in the dock of Perth Magistrates Court on Saturday charged with 25 offences.

    Outside court, his mother said her son was still “quite sore” and the bullet remained in his shoulder. “I don’t feel good about it,” she said.

    The woman said her 14-year-old granddaughter was “traumatised” from witnessing her father getting shot.

    “And then he got dragged out and handcuffed and pressure put on the wound,” Mr Brockman’s mother said, but refused to comment about the string of charges her son is facing.

    Police will allege Mr Brockman was behind the wheel of a stolen Subaru Impreza when detectives arrived and drove in behind him to block him in the driveway of a home on Firetail Court in Seville Grove on Thursday.

    Mr Brockman, who had another man as a passenger, allegedly reversed into the police’s unmarked car with two detectives inside.

    The incident ended when a police officer fired a shot through the front windscreen and hit Mr Brockman in the shoulder.

    Internal affairs and the homicide squad are investigating the circumstances surrounding the police shooting.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    We see their turnfailure befuddled and unable to cope with the way things are turning out.

    I can empathize how it’s hard for him. He believes everything his Davos mates tell him on da ebil gas. How could he not? He’s been swimming in the giant squid-ink coloured sea his whole life. He so wants to save the world.

    But almost all righties see through the climate scam, and they also see through his transparent tactics to get them to do the right thing for the planet. It’d be fun to run a poll to find out how many ordinary Aussies actually believe his crap about renewbulls lowering electricity prices (after Mal monsters the gouging, GOUGING!!, electricity retailers). Not many I suspect.

    It’s a bummer being a world-saver and not getting credit for it.

  12. miltonf

    Surely this ridiculous Trumble farce can’t go on for much longer.

  13. Oh come on

    Maybe someone will offer to fly Pestes somewhere in a chopper and push him out along the way?

  14. H B Bear

    Perjury trap springs onto helpless victim

    If they perp walk Alexander Downer it would almost be worth the price of an airline ticket to watch it.

  15. JC

    Labor economics is difficult.

    The lower US participation rate also coincides with the oldest population in the nation’s history. It’s now over average 38 years.

    I’m not convinced that a hotter economy would lower the rate all that much.

    It’s also the richest population in history, so it maybe people have chosen not to work or work in part time jobs at an older age. Most people work to live and it’s not because they really want to considering that 90% of working folk don’t like their jobs.

    If the policy settings are right. I don’t think we need to sweat it.

  16. zyconoclast

    Just in time for dinner

    Pleas for safe s3x as multi-drug-resistant bacterial infection spreads

    Prevention of illness is always better than a cure, and never more so than with an infection that has become resistant to multiple drugs. A current outbreak of the s3xually-transmitted bowel infection shigellosis has proven just so, with almost a third of recent cases drug resistant.

    Which is why health authorities are pleading with people to use safe s3xual practices – and not just when it comes to standard penetrative s3x.

    Shigella is a highly contagious bacteria spread through infected faecal matter, which means that while anyone can contract it, it tends to be far more easily transmitted through the s3xual practices of gay and bis3xual men; and use of condoms alone may be ineffective.

    Nicolas Parkhill, chief executive of LGBTI health organisation ACON, said infection takes place when tiny particles of contaminated faeces enter the mouth.

    “This can happen through s3xual contact such as rimming, by getting infected faeces on your fingers and then touching your mouth or by putting contaminated objects like food, pens and cigarettes into your mouth,” he said.

    “If you experience symptoms, it’s important that you see your doctor so you can get tested and be treated.”

    Shigellosis, the bowel infection that results from Shigella exposure, can result in vomiting, stomach cramps, diarrhoea, fever and nausea. Symptoms can appear between 12 hours and four days after exposure, and can last between four and seven days.

    People with HIV or who have an otherwise compromised immune system may experience a more severe illness.

    Out of 91 cases of shigellosis cases in NSW from November to April, almost a third demonstrated resistance to six classes of antibiotics – meaning there is no oral antibiotic that will work on this strain. People suffering the drug-resistant strain of shigellosis may need intravenous antibiotics to kill the infection, according to NSW Health.

    NSW Health Medical Epidemiologist Dr Christine Selvey said it’s likely the number of recorded cases of shigellosis don’t reflect the true number of people with the infection, as many will not seek medical attention or be tested – symptoms often disappear without antibiotics in healthy individuals.

    Antibiotics, however, can reduce infectiousness and the severity of symptoms.

    “We want gay men to be aware of ways that can reduce the risk of getting and spreading Shigella,” Dr Shelvey said.

    “The most effective way is to wash hands thoroughly with soap and water after any sexual activity, touching equipment like used condoms and sex toys, going to the toilet, and before handling food.”

    Anyone who has contracted the infection should avoid sexual activity while they have symptoms and for seven days afterwards.

  17. DrBeauGan

    “This can happen through s3xual contact such as rimming, by getting infected faeces on your fingers and then touching your mouth or by putting contaminated objects like food, pens and cigarettes into your mouth,” he said.

    I feel sorrier for the people (us) who have to pay for the medical attention than those who get it.

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A few days ago male house magpie took on a collared sparrowhawk in aerial combat all by himself. He won, fortunately. But it was a nail-biting sight.

    We saw the same thing, a dogfight between two eagles, out on the rocks beyond North Cape, Bruce. An amazing sight as two young males had a barney over something or another.

    Crossie, you will have to look back to the end of the Auld Fred for a word on the puffins there.

    We are now in Kirkeness, a small town, and going off for a walk soon. Many passengers have gone on abus trip ten km to see the Russian border – a sign and a gate. We decided we’d seen enough Russian borders, and that ten km was about the distance we were from Russia recently in Hokkaido in Japan and that would do for us. Signal to what a large country Russia really is, right across the top of the Eurasian continent.

    There is much to say here too about how when Russia came into the war, and then the US, this area over the top from Britain became an important supply line for the Russians vs the Germans. Will tell more of that later, when we go to a WW2 museum on the way back down to Bergen, as this is our turnaround point, and we go pretty much to all the same ports for a re-visit on our way down. The Schernhorst was a German troop ship at Cape North hit by a Norwegian and British force, and sunk, with the loss of 1900 German men; a memorial to that, and to the loss of all in that war, is there at Cape North, where the endless winds blow. Gee, they are fierce, they almost knocked me over as I climbed a structure with a globe on it at the point for a photograph. They come in bursts, and get much worse, we are told, for the road up can be closed if they get severe enough to roll over the busses.

  19. areff

    Better order up another islamic coin-toss. RoP not being RoP-ish again:

    …When the council wrote to Mustapha Kara-Ali directing him to remove a boat ramp and retaining walls at the property, he responded by claiming his organisation was exempt from Australian law because it was classed as a basic religious charity.

    “The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission (ACNC) Act 2012 stipulates that when it is carrying out religious activities that are related to the practice, study, teaching or propagation of its religious beliefs, or other activities ancillary to them … Diwan Al Dawla, as a basic religious charity is not required to comply with Australian laws,” he wrote.

    “As the Imam of Diwan Al Dawla and its spiritual leader, I, therefore, ask the Hawkesbury City Council to revoke its letter … on the basis that its demands infringe upon our religious freedom and tamper with our mode of worship in contravention of our ACNC status as a Basic Religious Charity.”…

    then there’s this:

    The conflict between council and the Kara-Alis came to a head last month when three council officers visited the property to provide them with court papers.

    A dashcam video tendered to the court shows a man, standing beside Mustapha Kara-Ali, spitting on council staff and attempting to throw a large rock, which hits the fence and then falls to the ground.

    “Both men were repeatedly yelling obscenities from the other side of the gate, calling out ‘you dogs, I step on your cross’,” one of the council staff alleged in an affidavit.

    “The unknown male person said ‘I spit on you’. He then lunged his head forward towards me and spat at me.”

    Ain’t multiculturalism just grand!

    Full story: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-18/islamic-leader-accused-of-land-clearing-claims-exempt-from-law/10133930

  20. John Constantine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCAXscVkH68

    “Scientists in shitboxes”.

    An entire oeuvre opens up for Le petit Giraffe de Morte.

    Forget comedians getting coffee in cars, it is time for Artists with Apricots in A-models.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    2603, posted on August 18, 2018 at 6:18 pm
    Labor economics is difficult.

    The lower US participation rate also coincides with the oldest population in the nation’s history. It’s now over average 38 years.

    I’m not convinced that a hotter economy would lower the rate all that much.

    It’s also the richest population in history, so it maybe people have chosen not to work or work in part time jobs at an older age. Most people work to live and it’s not because they really want to considering that 90% of working folk don’t like their jobs.

    If the policy settings are right. I don’t think we need to sweat it.

    Ridiculous analysis.

    Men need to work for their self worth. Only fags and libtards retire. Real men die on the job.

    The Boomers – the worst generation in human history – are all about retiring and travel.

    It’s a disgrace and cultural suicide.

  22. John Constantine

    Artisans with Apricots in A-models?.

  23. C.L.

    We saw the same thing, a dogfight between two eagles, out on the rocks beyond North Cape, Bruce. An amazing sight as two young males had a barney over something or another.

    They were fighting over a bird. A bird bird.

  24. Roger

    Ain’t multiculturalism just grand!

    Worth many grand to Dr Mustapha, it seems.

    From what I can glean, he gained a doctorate at Harvard funded at least partly by the tax payer courtesy an Australian government scholarship (Endeavour Leadership Program).

    He was also a member of John Howard’s Muslim Community Reference Group (or similar title).

    The revolution is being subsidised with your taxes, comrades!

  25. Snoopy

    ARETHA Franklin died on August 16, 2018, aged 76 after an eight-year battle with pancreatic cancer.

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been going for nine years.

  26. C.L.

    Why is Julie Bishop dressed as some sort of modern nun?

  27. Elle

    Ain’t multiculturalism just grand!

    Yes, areff.

    I posted here not so long ago that I was spat at by a grubby Muslim man in Lakemba a few years ago because I was wearing my Star of David. I was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    Ain’t some Australians just grand!

  28. Makka

    Ain’t some Australians just grand!

    Arseholes in every nation Elle, even Israel.

  29. cohenite

    The conflict between council and the Kara-Alis came to a head last month when three council officers visited the property to provide them with court papers.

    A dashcam video tendered to the court shows a man, standing beside Mustapha Kara-Ali, spitting on council staff and attempting to throw a large rock, which hits the fence and then falls to the ground.

    “Both men were repeatedly yelling obscenities from the other side of the gate, calling out ‘you dogs, I step on your cross’,” one of the council staff alleged in an affidavit.

    “The unknown male person said ‘I spit on you’. He then lunged his head forward towards me and spat at me.”

    Yet we’ll still get the quislings, traitors and cowards saying islam is good for this and any Western country.

  30. DrBeauGan

    I was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    Good grief! Who told you that?

  31. mh

    Chris Matthews: We All Thought Hillary Would Win Because There Weren’t Enough ‘Angry White People’

    MATTHEWS: We thought Hillary Clinton was going to win right up until 8:30 election night. because people kept saying ‘she’s going to win, she’s going to win, there’s not enough angry white people out there.’ Well, there were a hell of a lot of angry white people, like this guy.

    https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/08/17/chris-matthews-we-all-thought-hillary-would-win-because-there-werent-enough-angry-white-people/

    The corporate media are still trying to work out what happened two years ago by looking through an identity politics prism.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yet we’ll still get the quislings, traitors and cowards saying islam is good for this and any Western country.

    And that Islam is “the most feminist of all religions.”

  33. Makka

    Good grief! Who told you that?

    Yes, link please.

  34. cohenite

    Petition against FB censoring Marc Morano’s new book on alarmism being a pile of steaming crap:

    http://petition.cfact.org/facebookfair

    Background:

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/08/17/cfacts-marc-morano-targeted-for-censorship/

  35. Elle

    Guys, I’m about to watch the Bledisloe. Will find the contributor that said it. It wasn’t that long ago – the last open thread or the one before. I just may not get to it tonight though.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    We are now in Kirkeness

    Lots of fine history Lizzie! Kirkeness reminded me of a book I have somewhere: 73 North: The Battle of the Barents Sea which is a fine sea yarn of the 2nd WW. Your mention of the Schernhorst makes me think it might be the pocket battleship Scharnhorst, which met fate in another Murmansk convoy fight, Battle of the North Cape. As Adm. Dönitz said after Scharnhorst’s radar was disabled early in the battle “Surface ships are no longer able to fight without effective radar equipment.”. In the filthy weather of the Arctic Circle that is a true truth.

    And Russia, from sea to shining sea. I’ve been fitfully reading about Catherine the Great. But the lady who comes to mind isn’t her: Elizabeth of Russia, who was boss just before Catherine. A hot blonde. Passionate. Reigned 21 years. Lizzie of Russia did good, fighting Frederick the Great to a standstill in the Seven Years War. 😀

  37. Elle

    *I don’t post while under the influence. About to have some bubbles. 🍾 🥂

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Your mention of the Schernhorst makes me think it might be the pocket battleship Scharnhorst, which met fate in another Murmansk convoy fight, Battle of the North Cape.

    I did have that thought, BoN, indeed.

  39. We really need to see the back of Bishop. Nothing more than a placeholder.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    The refereeing of International rugby is a sick joke.

    The All blacks have the umpires under a spell.

  41. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And that Islam is “the most feminist of all religions.”

    clitoris free

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Absolutely disgraceful TV production. A Kiwi is knocked out and they use the over head camera to zoom in on him while he is receiving medical attention.

    Show some respect you pack of xunts.

  43. Gary

    Makka
    #2792624, posted on August 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    Good grief! Who told you that?
    Yes, link please.

    +1

  44. John Constantine

    Just as homo sapiens swept Neanderthal civilisation into the forgettery:

    Homo Davos, the new superior economic race, is wiping the brutes they despise from the face of the earth.

    Their turnbull is full on Davos Class, he is only doing That Which Must Be Done.

    The moist and putrid shortfilth is just a graverobbing corpselooter, out to grasp what he can from the smouldering ruins.

    Those that clamour to be accepted as respectable by Homo Davos, by adopting the tone and habits of the superior invaders, by displaying totems of capitulation like solar panels and joining in religious celebrations like ‘Earth Hour’:

    These herds will be sold down into slavery at the first opportunity.

    Comrades.

  45. Farmer Gez

    Sky News. Report on the fires.
    “The Hawkesbury River, a feeding ground for the hungry water bombing choppers”.

    If you say so.

  46. Signs of things to come. and the hand wringers say we just have to be nice they will love and thank us for saving them and making them feel welcome… oh dear oh dear.

  47. Top Ender

    Just returned from a Vietnam War commemoration bash.

    Talking to a young digger there, who’s been in four years. A bit of trust gets established once the work out you’re retired and have seen a fair bit of service.

    He reckoned 99% of the forces hate the PC bullshit, but it’s career death to object.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kofi Annan dead at 80: Former UN Secretary-General dies
    Staff writers, News Corp Australia Network
    16 minutes ago

    FORMER United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan has died at age 80.

    Mr Annan died in the early hours of Saturday in Switzerland after a short illness, according to a statement issued by his family.

    He was the seventh Secretary-General of the United Nations from January 1997 to December 2006, and became the first black African man to take on the top job as the world’s top diplomat.

    He was founder and Chairman of the Kofi Annan Foundation.

    The United Nations Migration Agency confirmed his death in a tweet, saying: “Today we mourn the loss of a great man, a leader, and a visionary: former @UN Secretary General @KofiAnnan. A life well lived. A life worth celebrating.”

  49. cohenite

    PVO:

    That’s a former prime minister and a former deputy prime minister, both still in parliament and ambitious for the future, who have an eye for vengeance. No wonder internal instability rocks the Coalition continuously.

    FMD we have turdball, a knifer who is left of the greenfilth on every major issue facing Australia and who like tits has betrayed everyone, and it’s all about Abbott and Barnaby wanting revenge. What a fuckwit pvo is.

  50. Snoopy

    Kofi Annan was a great man. He made Africa what it is today.

  51. cohenite

    That pvo article here.

    Check out the ‘cartoon’ at the bottom.

  52. Oh come on

    I was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    There is only one frequently banned individual who would say such a thing. Don’t make out as though that kind of perspective flies here.

  53. Oh come on

    Mr Annan died in the early hours of Saturday in Switzerland

    But of course.

  54. None

    Why is Julie Bishop dressed as some sort of modern nun?

    I thought she looked like a 1950s Catholic schoolgirl.

  55. a reader

    A bunch of lefties who have never watched a Rugby match are about to launch a full on tirade against an old man after Gordon Bray dared to use the words “golliwog haircut” in the Rugby. Piss off Swampies. It’s a word! Golliwog. Golliwog. Golliwog

  56. a reader

    Apparently even the cat is afraid to dare to use the name of an old style doll with dark curly hair. So I’ll try again:
    A bunch of lefties who have never watched a Rugby match are about to launch a full on tirade against an old man after Gordon Bray dared to use the words “censored haircut” in the Rugby. Piss off Swampies. It’s a word! Censored. Censored. Censored.

  57. None

    I

    was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    There is only one individual (a nutter who is banned) that I can think of who would ever say that. And if he did he would have been smoted by the Doomlord pretty pronto.

  58. Snoopy

    United Nations secretary-general Kofi Annan says his son Kojo would have to “speak for himself” in connection with an independent probe into his role in the corruption-tainted oil-for-food program for Iraq.

    The UN chief told the Security Council that he was “not diligent or effective enough” in pursuing a probe after learning that the Swiss trade firm Cotecna that employed his son Kojo had won a $US10 million contract under the oil-for-food program in 1998.

    Uh-huh

  59. Snoopy

    UNITED NATIONS (CNN) — The son of U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan says he is sorry he misused his father’s name to save more than $20,000 on a Mercedes SUV he had shipped to his native Ghana. Now, eight years later, he’s looking to make things right.

    Kojo Annan wants to pay back the customs duties he skirted during the 1998 transaction that cast a shadow over him and his father during last year’s probe into the United Nations oil-for-food scandal, according to Kojo Annan’s attorney.

    Every father has been there.

  60. John Constantine

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/nico-walker-is-a-convicted-bank-robber-cherry-proves-hes-also-a-must-read-author/2018/08/13/fcfff502-9b30-11e8-8d5e-c6c594024954_story.html?utm_term=.45539dea9126

    We see what the Deep State has done to America, we see their Davos Class will double down with at its next chance.

    Trump is our Great Orange Cheezel from God, the last best chance to delay the tidal wave of nihilism.

    “That sounds right — and true to the searing authenticity of this novel, which tries to answer the question, “How do you get to be a scumbag?” But in the process of laying out the road to perdition, Walker demonstrates the depths of his humanity and challenges us to bridge the distance that we imagine separates us from the damned.

    We meet the unnamed narrator in 2003 when he’s a listless college student raised by a nice middle-class family. From the start, his tone is one of mournful candor with a trace of straight-faced wit. “I sold drugs but it wasn’t like I was bad or anything,” he says. “I wasn’t bothering anybody; I didn’t even eat meat. I had a job at the shoe store. Another mistake I made. No interest whatsoever in shoes. I was marked for failure.”

    With the same rueful smirk, he enlists in the Army “because I’d been saying I would.” The inane tests, the screaming sergeants, the empty slogans — none of it impresses him. “You just had to remember it was all make-believe,” he says. “We were pretending to be soldiers. The Army was pretending to be the Army”

    Americas opoid underworld, Iraq vet comes back, robs a heap of banks for his heroin addiction, becomes a gritty lacerating first up author while still in jail.

    A wall with mexico, ending the war on drugs because it just doesn’t work, the true Hussein Obama legacy is meth soaked crackers, just the way he dreamed it would be.

    Comrade.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hairy pissed off at Malcolm and the ‘regulatory’ response: government by experts, deep green expert woman who runs his Committee, and he’s the King Expert, he says disparagingly as he calls into the cabin to pick me up for the sail out from Kirkeness. We walked into the town, had a look around, saw the air-raid shelter from 1944 underneath a hillock, ready for the population when the bombs fell, as they did, and Hairy translated for me the Russian on the Mermansk Memorial wreaths, huge ones, seven of them, probably laid we think in the Patriotic War Memories in May. As in the far edge of Hokkaido, here on the Bering Sea it is clear people pop in and out of Russia as there is signable in Russian here in the same way as in Hokkaido. We have taken on a whole new load of tourists for the trip back down to Bergen. It will be interesting to find where they hail from. Sadly, we have lost our new French friends as dinner companions, exchanging addresses last night, as they were booked to fly back down to Bergen.

    For others wanting to do this trip, know that you can interrupt it, or just go one way, so there are other options than just the twelve days all in up and down.

  62. Makka

    Don’t make out as though that kind of perspective flies here.

    Indeed, the link should be interesting.

  63. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    signage, not signable

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Your mention of the Schernhorst makes me think it might be the pocket battleship Scharnhorst, which met fate in another Murmansk convoy fight, Battle of the North Cape.

    I did have that thought, BoN, indeed.

    Yes, that is the one. Apologies for my spelling. I blog quickly in odd moments and have given up spell checking via Google (this small notebook computer I use on trips goes bananas and axes a whole post if I try to move around too much when writing in the Cat’s allocated space). I should carry a notebook and jot down things as I see them in museums etc but Hairy is far too impatient for that.

  65. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Bomb threats ground passenger planes in Argentina, Chile, Peru and Greece
    NINE flights were grounded in South America after bomb threats that have baffled investigators, while in Greece fighter jets were sent scrambling following threats on board a flight from Egypt.

  66. Cold-Hands

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been going for nine years.

    RBG was lucky enough for her pancreatic cancer to be discovered very early, during surgery to remove a benign tumour. It was removed before it had a chance to spread. Odds are, it won’t be her pancreas that kills her now.

  67. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lizzie – Don’t sweat! I had a nice quarter hour going through the bookcases to fail to find the book I’d read. I don’t alphabetize as it’s more fun if they aren’t.

    Norway is a place of much power. They give us more than half our day names. I’ve not worked out why that should be so. Sadly they now seem to be in thrall (norse word!) to the politics of the left. Viking blood is thinning.

  68. Tintarella di Luna

    What is happening in New Mexico?– Taos County Court House and the terrorists who starved and abused 11 children and the mysterious destruction of the compound where they were held – looks like NBC is the only media outlet doing anything on this. And the judge has received credible death threats

  69. a reader

    And now sure as night follows day, the twitter left who wouldn’t know Rugby from Netball, have started the campaign to sack Gordon Bray. If you think old Gordo is a racist because he dared to use the name of a black curly haired doll you don’t know anything about Gordo nor what it actually means to be racist. Time to reclaim the Golly

  70. Leigh Lowe

    FORMER United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan has died at age 80.

    And here I am with no champagne.
    (Just joking … cheers!!!)

  71. Top Ender

    The biggest rip-off of the 20th-21st century has got to be toner and ink cartridges.

    Anyone know how to get round the system?

    Cartridge World are about 10% less than Officeworks.

    Ridiculous when you think what you’re paying for.

  72. JC

    I love London. It’s the best city in the world by far. I’m in Sorrento at the moment. The contrast is incredible. Italy is a little on the old and grungey side , which I also like. I have to say though, the contrast is amazing. It’s pretty white and I haven’t seen one letter or parcel box.

  73. Oh come on

    It is after 6.30am, so champers is completely acceptable. Before 6.30am is good, too. Excessively respectable people might add a dash of orange juice around sunrise.

  74. Gab

    Excessively respectable people might add a dash of orange juice around sunrise.

    What on earth for?!!

  75. Oh come on

    I know, Gab. Blasted wowsers everywhere.

  76. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #2792669, posted on August 18, 2018 at 9:01 pm
    I love London. It’s the best city in the world by far. I’m in Sorrento at the moment. The contrast is incredible. Italy is a little on the old and grungey side , which I also like. I have to say though, the contrast is amazing. It’s pretty white and I haven’t seen one letter or parcel box.”

    Lucky you JC. There are now too many letterboxes here in Sydney.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    The biggest rip-off of the 20th-21st century has got to be toner and ink cartridges.
    Anyone know how to get round the system?

    Paperless office?

  78. Oh come on

    Theresa May is a real dummy. Fancy calling for Boris Johnson to apologise for his burqa comments. Yes that’s exactly what he wants to hear from her and he will conspicuously decline to do so, further eroding her authority and bolstering his own.

    May needs to get out of this whole politics game. She really isn’t that good at it.

  79. stackja

    BON paperless dunny says IT mate.

  80. JC

    But sometimes Cassie I’m not sure. I’m just having lunch in the main drag. In front of me, obsuring the view, is an obese north euro female devouring a burger, chips and a sugar laden lemoncelli to make sure she adds that extra 3 kilos.

  81. Jumpnmcar

    Thatcher must have been a tranny, only that explains his competence.

  82. JC

    Females should never eat burgers nor chips. Now that’s something that should be banned.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2792669, posted on August 18, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    I love London. It’s the best city in the world by far. I’m in Sorrento at the moment.

    Sorrento sux.
    Get yo ass to Amalfi.

  84. Infidel Tiger

    What is the point and the purpose of The Wallabies?

  85. Elle

    I was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    There is only one frequently banned individual who would say such a thing. Don’t make out as though that kind of perspective flies here.

    Well it did and was met here with cheers by a couple.

    Just scrolled through the last thread to search for the comment. It must be in the previous one or the one prior. I’m not here everyday and don’t know how to search for a comment.

  86. IT, the defenders didn’t even try to stop that run. Pathetic.

  87. Infidel Tiger

    The Wallabies are a very good thermometer for how we are tracking as a country.

  88. Oh come on

    Well it did and was met here with cheers by a couple.

    Bullshit.

  89. Snoopy

    This one, Elle?

    Clint
    #2786009, posted on August 10, 2018 at 7:58 pm
    grubby little Muslim man spit at my feet and called me a filthy J*w.

    So many j ews advocate for mass immigration so I have zero sympathy when the diversity they championed bites them in the arse

    I couldn’t find any cheers.

  90. None

    AFL is sponsoring a Muslim only sports academy. How come they don’t sponsor a Buddhist only or a Hindu only or an Orthodox Christian only or Catholic only Academy? More importantly still, why are they being such segregationists especially as the AFL is heavily subsidised by the taxpayer?

  91. Every game I’ve happened to catch the Wallabies are always smashed in the scrum. How can a national team be so bad in this aspect of the game?

  92. Snoopy

    The Wallabies are a very good thermometer for how we are tracking as a country.

    So what does 13 signify?

  93. None

    Snoopy

    #2792690, posted on August 18, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    And the comment itself eas not exactly as the way you described it Elle. There was no pointing fingers saying it’s all your fault.

  94. Oh come on

    The claim is as follows:

    I was told here at the Cat that it is my fault because my people brought it upon ourselves.

    [it] was met here with cheers by a couple.

    Links. If you can’t find where the above took place here then you need to retract your claim and apologise. No excuses.

  95. None

    The Wallabies are a very good thermometer for how we are tracking as a country.

    Pretty shit, ay?

  96. min

    Interesting article in Quadrant on the brains of conservatives and progressives. It seems those of the right have larger amygdalae than the left . Smaller amygdalae are associated with psychopaths I think this was discovered in post mortems done on psychopaths in prison and later confirmed in PET scans on general public. From social media it appears that those on the left appear to be irrational rather than rational thinkers ,that is emotional and react on feelings thus opinions rather than facts. So what a neurotic exhibition we saw in Parliament.the other day.
    Anyway now waiting to see if we are about to see a narcisisstic implosion although in the same man I have observed passive aggressive behaviour in that he leaks and undermines . The difference in the man he knifed is that he confronts and puts his name to his opinions backed by facts and he plays the ball not the man.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    If you are on Facebook, start abusing the Wallabies on their feed. It’s not only cathartic but sensational fun.

  98. Oh come on

    And let’s distinguish between people whose ancestors practised Judaism but are themselves completely secular, and actual Jews who believe in God and whatnot. The former are not Jews any more than an atheist whose parents are practising Catholics is a Christian.

  99. Oh come on

    And let’s distinguish between people whose ancestors practised Jooodaism but are themselves completely secular, and actual J3 ws who believe in God and whatnot. The former are not J3 ws any more than an atheist whose parents are practising Catholics is a Christian.

  100. Snoopy

    If you are on Facebook, start abusing the Wallabies on their feed. It’s not only cathartic but sensational fun.

    You sound like a school girl.

  101. Robber Baron

    AFL is sponsoring a Muslim only sports academy. How come they don’t sponsor a Buddhist only or a Hindu only or an Orthodox Christian only or Catholic only Academy?

    Because the sound of Allu Akbar followed by a loud “kaboom.”

  102. Death Giraffe

    What happened with the rugby tonight?

  103. Oh come on

    If you are on Facebook start abusing the Wallabies on their feed. It’s not only cathartic but sensational fun.

    You sound like a school girl.

    Undeniable.

  104. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The biggest rip-off of the 20th-21st century has got to be toner and ink cartridges.

    Anyone know how to get round the system?

    don’t print stuff, works for me

  105. Death Giraffe

    Did the wallabies win?

  106. Elle

    Hahaha. Our bros won, DF!

  107. Infidel Tiger

    It appears I will soon be banned from Facebook.

  108. Elle

    I didn’t “champion” it, None.

  109. Infidel Tiger

    You sound like a school girl.

    You sound like a guy who can suck off two guys while fisting himself.

    You’re talented but sick.

  110. cohenite

    Wind vs solar: wind storm blows the crap out of a solar panel field:

  111. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    …..Censorship is a very dangerous thing & absolutely impossible to police. If you are weeding out Fake News, there is nothing so Fake as CNN & MSNBC, & yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed. I get used to it and watch with a grain of salt, or don’t watch at all..
    9:32 PM · Aug 18, 2018

  112. Elle

    Am signing out. Jews and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    Enjoy your small circle of whatever it is.

    Good win tonight by my Bros. Muah, boys! 😚

    https://youtu.be/5AlSrrXlaWs

  113. Elle

    Am signing out. J*ws and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    Enjoy your small circle of whatever it is.

    Good win tonight by my Bros. Muah, boys! 😚

    https://youtu.be/5AlSrrXlaWs

  114. Cassie of Sydney

    “Oh come on
    #2792701, posted on August 18, 2018 at 9:45 pm
    And let’s distinguish between people whose ancestors practised Jooodaism but are themselves completely secular, and actual J3 ws who believe in God and whatnot. The former are not J3 ws any more than an atheist whose parents are practising Catholics is a Christian.”

    Interesting hypothesis. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis certainly didn’t distinguish. You could have been an atheist or Catholic or Lutheran with one J*wish grandparent but that certainly wasn’t enough to protect you from Nazi anti-Semitism.

  115. C.L.

    Mr Annan died in the early hours of Saturday in Switzerland after a short illness, according to a statement issued by his family.

    A son of Africa until the very end.

  116. Bruce in WA

    J*ws and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    They are to me.

    One of the best, most creative, hardworking and efficient typesetter/designers I ever had working for me was a J**ish lady — Scottish, to boot. She was charming, friendly and an all-round lovely person.

    Our next-door neighbours are Kiwis. Could not even begin to describe how wonderful they are. We should be putting our house on the market and downsizing — but we can’t imagine not living with our neighbours.

    Don’t go too far, Elle.

  117. Cassie of Sydney

    Elle
    #2792716, posted on August 18, 2018 at 10:02 pm
    Am signing out. J*ws and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    Enjoy your small circle of whatever it is.

    Good win tonight by my Bros. Muah, boys! 😚

    https://youtu.be/5AlSrrXlaWs

    Hi Elle, I’m here too, another J*w.

  118. C.L.

    Trump: hey, here’s an idea … let people decide what to read.

    Donald J. [email protected]

    ….Too many [social media] voices are being destroyed, some good & some bad, and that cannot be allowed to happen. Who is making the choices, because I can already tell you that too many mistakes are being made. Let everybody participate, good & bad, and we will all just have to figure it out!

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce in WA
    #2792721, posted on August 18, 2018 at 10:12 pm
    J*ws and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    They are to me.”

    Thanks Bruce.

  120. Death Giraffe

    Hahaha. Our bros won, DG!

    ..
    Us kiwis have to stick together against these bloody convicts, Elle.
    I’ve finished with this sheep.
    You want me to hold it for you?

  121. Peter

    So what is the small package in the Wallaby jerseys between the shoulder blades? A pack of fags?

  122. Elle

    Thank you, Bruce. Bless. Xx

  123. Snoopy

    Ace on social media censorship.

    If a newspaper publishes a defamatory letter to the editor, that newspaper is liable for that defamation. The newspaper picks and chooses what to print, after all; it is responsible for trumpeting that libel out to thousands.

    But if libel is published on a social media, the social media company is not legally responsible for it by a special exception of the law.

    But that law requires that the social media company act as a neutral platform and not act as newspaper would, exercising editorial judgment about what news is fit to print.
    >
    >
    The point of the Wyden amendment was to protect providers from being sued every time someone objected to a post. Otherwise, they feared, America’s great internet adventure would be strangled in its crib.

    But when a social media company does begin picking and choosing what it permits to be published on its platform, it does in fact become a publisher like any other, legally responsible for what appears on it.

  124. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Us kiwis have to stick together against these bloody convicts, Elle.
    I’ve finished with this sheep.
    You want me to hold it for you

    Have you heard about the New Zealander, who discovered an entirely new use for sheep? You can shear them, and sell the wool?

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    Don’t go anywhere Elle, we can stick together!!

  126. Elle

    DG, I have it firmly between my thighs. It needs a good shearing

  127. Death Giraffe

    Have you heard about the New Zealander, who discovered an entirely new use for sheep? You can shear them, and sell the wool?

    ..
    That is true.
    But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts.

  128. Infidel Tiger

    That is true.
    But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts.

    Fair play. My dear Mother was always very proud that we never had any of that degenerate convict blood.

    I could never understand people who were proud off being descended from such filth.

  129. But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts.

    Somebody seems unaware of the scale of migration to NZ from Oz in the later 1800’s.

  130. Elle

    mh, I can’t view all of that. It’s totally abusive. I heard it was country dudes from the Riverina that filmed that. More sheep there than in NZ.

  131. Farmer Gez

    That is true.
    But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts.

    My great great grandmother murdered someone. So there!

  132. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts

    It may surprise you to know that a surprisingly high percentage of Australians are descended from free settlers – the first of my mob “jumped ship” in Sydney in 1815.

    the less successful prostitutes

    In the late 1970’s Sydney cops estimated that the majority of Kings Cross hookers were New Zealanders…

  133. mh

    Elle, your Kiwi credentials are looking suspect.

  134. cohenite

    DG, I have it firmly between my thighs. It needs a good shearing

    Well said.

  135. Jacqui Lambie blows her cover as a regular on the Cat:

    DG, I have it firmly between my thighs. It needs a good shearing

  136. Elle

    Tell me how I can prove myself, Mr Hendrix.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jacqui Lambie blows her cover as a regular on the Cat:

    Jacqui Lambie wore the big reflective gauntlets, the red beret, and made sure all the trucks in the convey went the same way. What else do you expect from a bloody elephant tracker?

  138. Makka

    You sound like a school girl.

    Undeniable.

    Absolutely. With a big fkn chip on her shoulder to boot it seems.

  139. Infidel Tiger

    Poor Boomers. Hate being reminded they are the moochingest generation in human history.

    You’ll always have JohnHoward, you leaning xunts.

  140. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Poor Boomers. Hate being reminded they are the moochingest generation in human history.

    As opposed to Gen X – hanging around, hoping they’ll cop an inheritance, and hoping their baby boomers parents never spent it all.

  141. Oh come on

    Am signing out. J*ws and Kiwis aren’t welcome here.

    Just piss off already. You’ve already threatened to flounce out of here at least once before. What are you waiting for? Bye bye.

    By the way, how dare you claim anti-semitism is tolerated here. Seriously, go fuck yourself.

    I trust the good-natured people who implored this hysterical attention whore to stay the last time she threatened to leave take note of the above and, charitably, suggest she seeks the professional help she clearly needs.

  142. Makka

    I see IT the snowflake whiner is bitching about the boomers again, who will die off and make ingrate xunts like him wealthy. Watch then for a sudden stop in whingeing when the hypocrite collects his winnings.

  143. Death Giraffe

    Gen X are generally the children of silent or greatest generations.
    My old man was born in 1927.
    No no no.
    You boomers produced the cry- baby millenials.
    Maybe collectively your most heinous act.

  144. Farmer Gez

    All Black gloating only works on NSW and Queensland cats.
    Didn’t watch and don’t care.
    Collingwood beat Port. That’s all I know.

  145. Steve trickler

    This has spooked the YTube hierarchy and sucked in a lot of people.

    Fabulous stuff.



  146. Oh come on

    their baby boomers parents never spent it all.

    No one sensible would hope this. Boomers long ago spent it all and are busily running up a vast tab that they expect their grandchildren and great-grandchildren will pay off.

    Some inheritance.

  147. Baldrick

    Elle
    #2792685, posted on August 18, 2018 at 9:28 pm
    Well it did and was met here with cheers by a couple.
    Just scrolled through the last thread to search for the comment. It must be in the previous one or the one prior. I’m not here everyday and don’t know how to search for a comment.

    Provide the links, apologise or fuck off with your bullshit. Go.

  148. Death Giraffe

    I can count on the fingers of one hand the sentences my old man said to me.
    A three of them were “I’ll give you a clip around the ear”.
    If you boomer swine had brought your chidren up with the slightest bit of discipline, instread of constantly wiping their noses and singing lemon tree to them, we wouldn’t be in the shit we are now.

  149. Snoopy

    Gotta go. Bill Murray and Andie McDowell just dropped by. Again.

  150. Elle

    Ok. I will go. Sorry if I offended anyone.

  151. mh

    I was watching Sharks v Cowboys, Thurston’s last game in Sydney.

  152. mh

    Elle, they are only joshing. It’s Aussie humour.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Boomers long ago spent it all and are busily running up a vast tab that they expect their grandchildren and great-grandchildren will pay off.

    You must know some real losers, that’s all I can say.

  154. Baldrick

    Elle, they are only joshing. It’s Aussie humour.

    Like fuck I am. Don’t come here and say anti-semetic shite is tolerated here. It’s not.
    Put up or shut up.

  155. .

    Millenials are approaching what used to be “middle age”. It is mostly bullshit made up by marketing schleps.

  156. Makka

    Boomer swine is it Arky? Looks to me like your old man just didn’t teach you how to man up and deal with shit. This sounds like sour grapes because the kids in your class got the better of you. Hiding away in the shed is one way to deal with it I suppose.

  157. .

    No Baldrick there are a few commenters that always lay the boot in. They’re not really well like either.

  158. Oh come on

    Boomers need to shut the fuck up with their inter-generational critiques. Boomer finger-wagging at Gen X and the millenials is like Pablo Escobar chastising a teenage weed dealer for propagating narcotics.

    Again – as I have done many times prior – I separate the vast number of individual Boomers who have no truck with the Boomer ethos that is responsible for the epic devaluation of Western values.

  159. mh

    TRUMP ‘BOOM’ SPARKS RECORD-BREAKING BACKLOG OF BIG RIGS

    North American fleets ordered over 52,000 trucks alone in July, an all-time monthly record

    https://www.infowars.com/trump-boom-sparks-record-breaking-backlog-of-big-rigs/

  160. cohenite

    Ok. I will go. Sorry if I offended anyone.

    No, stay and talk a little more about sheep.

  161. Elle

    mh, I always respected Baldrick and that’s going back years ago on Bolt. His comment didn’t seem funny.

    I get Aussie humour. Just maybe not tonight, for some reason.

  162. .

    Makka
    #2792767, posted on August 18, 2018 at 11:09 pm

    Boomer swine is it Arky? Looks to me like your old man just didn’t teach you how to man up and deal with shit. This sounds like sour grapes because the kids in your class got the better of you. Hiding away in the shed is one way to deal with it I suppose.

    That’s harsh, but what hardships did boomers ever have?

    Only the tail-enders would have graduated into a (major) recession. Gen X and some millennials copped the 1990-1991 recession and the GFC. Australia never had the same level of commitment in Vietnam.

    We feel ripped off. You grew up in a free country. It is no longer free. It started before we could vote. What has gone on with defined benefits, superannuation and unfunded liabilities let alone public debt is a disgrace.

    It is as though boomers have no stake in the future.

  163. Oh come on

    You must know some real losers, that’s all I can say.

    I don’t need to know them. Look at how many people live on the old age pension.

  164. Baldrick

    Doomlord does an very adequate job of rightfully booting the anti-semetic nutjobs that sometimes slip through the filter. The last thing we need is another nutjob claiming it’s tolerated here.

  165. Death Giraffe

    Sit back now and watch a succession of boomers prove they are completely self- obsessed, have zero sense of humour about themselves, and are unable to seperate themselves as individuals from the criticism of their cohort.
    Thus proving every stereotype ever stated about them.

  166. Snoopy

    It is as though boomers have no stake in the future.

    What a cruel comment.

  167. Makka

    Boomers need to shut the fuck up with their inter-generational critiques.

    It’s very easily done. Millennials need to stfu with their inter-generational critiques and not invite the consequences. Who stated this latest shitfest? Snowflake IT.

    Infidel Tiger
    #2792610, posted on August 18, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    So have a yarn with your brother, OCO.

  168. .

    North American fleets ordered over 52,000 trucks alone in July, an all-time monthly record

    Wow.

    Tel had reservations about the LFPR as did I, but we’re at a turning point here. Trump seems to be presiding over a recovery that has been coming since 2006.

    If he can get millions of chronic unemployed people into work, he might change the political landscape. He could flip CA, perhaps this is reflected in some of the surge for Trump support in black voters.

  169. Elle

    I’m sorry if I offended you Baldrick, or anyone else.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s harsh, but what hardships did boomers ever have?

    Paul Keating’s “recession we had to have” with interest rates at 17.5% and the highest unemployment rates since the Great Depression.

  171. Frank

    Millenials are approaching what used to be “middle age”. It is mostly bullshit made up by marketing schleps.

    It won’t be pretty and they won’t go quietly.

  172. Death Giraffe

    Look.
    I personally like boomers.
    But I am not going to pretend you didn’t completely fuck everything.

  173. struth

    Gen stuff again?
    Maybe dot and myself should start up about the constitution and councils again……
    You all love that.

  174. mh

    Trump seems to be presiding over a recovery that has been coming since 2006.

    Yes Dot, finally Obama’s regulations are producing green shoots.

  175. Infidel Tiger

    That’s harsh, but what hardships did boomers ever have?

    Dodging service in Vietnam was pretty hard. Not to mention lobbying for more entitlements.

  176. Death Giraffe

    and the highest unemployment rates since the Great Depression.

    ..
    Jesus Zulu.
    There is no comparison and you know it.
    The depression generation had to take go the road to survive.
    Your lot (NOT you personally) lounged about in communes, on the dole, smoking dope and watching the chicks do all the work.

  177. .

    That is contentious Zulu. Especially in light of some of the pension plans from back then.

    Mortgage rates post GFC in real terms (say, around 2011 and inflation-adjusted) were more than interest rates during the early1980s and late 1980s and early 1990s.

    Who did the 1990-1991 recession affect the most? Boomers or Gen X.

    People who graduated at the time ended up being paid permanently less than people who graduated a few years either way.

  178. Makka

    That’s harsh, but what hardships did boomers ever have?

    What hardship did you ever have ? Ever experienced a recession?

    At present you have zero stake in the future dotty. You won’t know about that until you grow your own family. Maybe then you will see and understand how some of your beliefs are so detested.

    Every boomer is an individual. So lived experiences will vary. You and the failed teacher assume every millenial child of a boomer is a silver spooner. It’s complete rubbish.

  179. Oh come on

    It really is the most bizarre thing to watch Boomers rail against feckless millenials.

    These are your children, Boomers. You raised them. They have been moulded by the values their parents (ie. you Boomers) instilled in them. Now you want to castigate them, but they are merely a symptom of your generation’s catastrophic rejection of what your parents taught you.

  180. .

    mh
    #2792785, posted on August 18, 2018 at 11:25 pm

    Trump seems to be presiding over a recovery that has been coming since 2006.

    Yes Dot, finally Obama’s regulations are producing green shoots.

    You Trumpkins can’t even take a compliment. The point was the US labour market has not looked this good since Bush stopped caring about US Federal debt. You’ve chosen a truly bizarre interpretation of what I write to turn a positive comment into something I’d never say in a million lifetimes.

  181. Death Giraffe

    They take it personally and lash out with abuse because they know its true.
    I don’t have to lash out at stupid shit like “failed teacher” because its (a) kind of funny and (b) I still get phone calls from people I taught 15 years ago thanking me for the success they have had.

  182. Oh come on

    So lived experiences will vary.

    LOL Makka embraces the intersectional lexicon. Sad.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Boomers are so self involved they can’t even realise the damage they have done.

    They bitch and moan about their own children as if it wasn’t their generation who poisoned the well.

    Gifted the world by people who understood real sacrifice, these mendacious, narcissisitic xunts parade their avarice like it was the medal for the wars and societal sacrifice they all avoided.

    Despicable people.

  184. .

    At present you have zero stake in the future dotty.

    Boomers collectively act like this. This is the beef.

    What hardship did you ever have ? Ever experienced a recession?

    I’ve lived through three and lost a very good job that was a sure thing because of it.

    So lived experiences will vary.

    I don’t care about your lived experiences because I don’t hold you personally responsible.

    You have taken offence at reasonable criticism of the boomers as a class and decided to engage in umbrage.

    Dindu nuffin, you say.

  185. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2792735, posted on August 18, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    That is true.
    But at least we aren’t descended from pickpockets, the less successful prostitutes and those convicted of homosexual acts.

    Fair play. My dear Mother was always very proud that we never had any of that degenerate convict blood.

    I could never understand people who were proud off being descended from such filth

    Given the choice of being the descendant of a convict or the descendant of a screw, I’ll take the former every time.

  186. Oh come on

    I do not for the life of me know why people like Makka are so defensive of their generation. I’ll bet they despise the folks who defined Boomer values. Why keep taking bullets for this scum?

  187. Makka

    Your lot (NOT you personally) lounged about in communes, on the dole, smoking dope and watching the chicks do all the work.

    Yeah, we were all hippy freaks back then dickhead. How many? Maybe , I don’t know – 20% or so? That’s the max. They grabbed headlines, were conspicuous and the lifestyle was envied. Tits and arse. Why not? The rest, we were just trade apprentices, labourers, brickies, truckies, plant operators, factory workers – every day working slobs. Having a go, working OT and starting families. We didn’t know it then how good it was but when Gough came in we sure knew how good it was. before.

    Arky, were you even in Australia during the 60’s and 70’s? Or in NZ having love affairs with the woolies?

  188. Westie Woman

    This Boomer smuggled in wine to the rugby tonight because the little young ones at security just see a couple of lovely mature oldies just like their Nan and Pop

    I’m despicable!

  189. .

    Anyone see the other day that Lindsay Lohan is now a “chaste Muslim”…

    Um?

  190. Makka

    If you millenial soft cocks can’t take the same kind of criticism you constantly dish out, go home and harden the fk up. You didn’t get your whingeing whining handle for nothing you know. So stop reinforcing the perception. If you expect this boomer to simply roll over and accept your cry baby drivel it won’t happen ladies.

    OCO, recall who began this latest whingefest. Your snowflake mate. We were all at peace until the fatmouth started his shit slinging.

  191. Death Giraffe

    Arky, were you even in Australia during the 60’s and 70’s? Or in NZ having love affairs with the woolies?

    ..
    Keep up the personal abuse Makka. I couldn’t give a shit.
    Keep proving the point.
    You do know the world isn’t all about you?

  192. Oh come on

    You didn’t get your whingeing whining handle for nothing you know.

    For argument’s sake, let’s say you’re right. They didn’t learn this in a vacuum.

    Every time you bag out subsequent generations to yours, you are actually issuing a sorry indictment of your own generation.

  193. Oh come on

    Boomers = worst parents ever, tacitly admitted by a Boomer.

  194. Makka

    Keep up the personal abuse Makka. I couldn’t give a shit.
    Keep proving the point.
    You do know the world isn’t all about you?

    Arky, you are the big mouth labelling my whole generation of Australians, every one of us , SWINE.

    That is not very personal abuse? I’m a tewwible person , defending against your slur? You fking hypocrite.

    So, you weren’t even in Australia during that time then? But you feel free to shitcan every single boomer who was here at the time – all of us no hopers, hippies, layabouts, dopeheads and parasite welfarists?

    Thank fk you did give up teaching. A bitter xunt like you is better off well away from the kids no matter how smart you are at maths

  195. Death Giraffe

    The worst of the boomers were the teachers.
    I had to put up with the bastards twice.
    First as a student, in the early stages of their careers, as they tried out all their fucking stupid and naive ideas on us, and their fucking folk music, kumbaya horseshit, then later as their colleague when they were jaded and heading for retirement and their expensive super schemes, and they no longer even pretended to give a shit.
    IT is right.
    Absolute xunts.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    11:47 pm
    Anyone see the other day that Lindsay Lohan is now a “chaste Muslim”…

    She’s a prostitute in Arabia.

    It’s very sad.

  197. Oh come on

    We were all at peace until the fatmouth started his shit slinging.

    OK so let’s say everyone let everyone down. Even the Greatest Generation played a part due to an overweening desire to ensure their children never had to go through the horrors they did, which goes a long way to explaining why the Boomers are like they are.

    Question is – how do we get out of this mess?

  198. Oh come on

    you are the big mouth labelling my whole generation of Australians, every one of us , SWINE.

    I agree this is untrue and unhelpful. Like slagging off the millenials.

  199. .

    fucking folk music

    LOL

    Retire at 55 on 2/3rds of your final pay (and then being exempted from income tax) after working for maybe 34 years for 4.5 hours a day for five days a week for 40 weeks a year.

    No HECS either.

  200. Makka

    Every time you bag out subsequent generations to yours, you are actually issuing a sorry indictment of your own generation.

    Every time you bag out your preceding generation, you are simply copping out of your own responsibilities. You are exposing your envy and shortcomings. When you walk off with the inheritance, you’re confirming your hypocrisy. “It woz all mummy and daddy’s fault”. Geez.

    Like I stated before, it’s your generation doing the constant griping. Just like this episode.

  201. .

    Holy crap IT.

    You might be right, re Nawaf al Saud.

  202. Makka

    Ok, the shows over. From me at least.

  203. Death Giraffe

    Arky, you are the big mouth labelling my whole generation of Australians, every one of us , SWINE.

    ..
    I don’t know all of you.
    But at least after this conversation I can definately say you are.

  204. JC

    Ladies please. It’s not that sort of blog.

  205. Makka

    But at least after this conversation I can definately say you are.

    Fk off back to NZ, parasite.

  206. Infidel Tiger

    Holy crap IT.

    You might be right, re Nawaf al Saud.

    I am always right. A terrible curse.

  207. Death Giraffe

    And you got there on your own merits.
    So hooray you.

  208. Makka

    Test drive your therapy on someone else Arky. It sure isn’t working with me , I’ll grant you that much.

  209. .

    I still have mixed feelings about “tag the sponsor”.

    Anyway, “Prince bin Shakken Az”, the poor gal should have figured out she was being trolled.

  210. Makka

    JC, what are you looking at? A fat German? An African waitress? What?

  211. Oh come on

    Every time you bag out your preceding generation, you are simply copping out of your own responsibilities.

    No, we bag you out because you have made yourselves our responsibility. We can’t cop out of our responsibilities to you.. We will be paying for you, the most self-indulgent, self-absorbed generation for the rest of our lives. We will live less well because you decided to live beyond your means and have us pay for it.

    When you walk off with the inheritance

    There is no inheritance. Boomers burnt through the wealth of their parents long ago, and are now spending the wealth of their children and grandchildren.

  212. Makka

    We’re done on this for now OCO. Goes nowhere ,doesn’t really help and all sides have their stories. But fill your boots.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    There is no inheritance. Boomers burnt through the wealth of their parents long ago, and are now spending the wealth of their children and grandchildren.

    Yep. Given the world by their magnificent parents, the boomers give their own children a soiled atlas.

    A rancid generation who we can’t wait to unplug while they die in agony in a fetid nursing home staffed by surly African immigrants.

  214. Makka

    A rancid generation who we can’t wait to unplug while they die in agony in a fetid nursing home staffed by surly African immigrants.

    It’s good, very good. But so old. Go back on to Twitter and dig up some new hate material ffs.

  215. JC

    I’m looking at a pebbled beach, a cliff face and a pier with beach beads on top. Beautiful day here . No fat krauts anywhere at the moment Water temp is perfect . All good.

    I’m not sure if my last comment got through at the time , but she also had a huge dessert and a latte.
    .
    Stop talking to me unless your next post is an effusive apology mixed in with grief. Grief for being a dick.

  216. Death Giraffe

    Makka.
    Thanks man.
    You have cheered me up no end tonight.
    Had a pretty shit day, but this has been a real laugh.
    Good night and have a good one.

  217. Oh come on

    Of course it doesn’t help. I’m happy to not lump individuals into arbitrary generational groups.

    But I find it *really* irritating when young people get trashed for being deficient in whatever way. No. These poor kids are obviously the victims of what came before.

  218. JC

    Yep. Given the world by their magnificent parents, the boomers give their own children a soiled atlas.

    A rancid generation who we can’t wait to unplug while they die in agony in a fetid nursing home staffed by surly African immigrants.

    You know, I didn’t think I’d take to it, but I kind of like pebble beaches . Sand just gets everywhere.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    Just calm down Makka.

    The boomers inability to laugh at themselves is as bad those millenial weirdos.

    We all have our faults. I myself am too vigorous a lover. My palms get very sore.

  220. Makka

    Sounds nice JC. Don’t forget to tip the wage slaves. They have to make a whole year’s living off the August “locusts.”

  221. JC

    Of course it doesn’t help. I’m happy to not lump individuals into arbitrary generational groups.

    But I find it *really* irritating when young people get trashed for being deficient in whatever way. No. These poor kids are obviously the victims of what came before.

    Totally, right?

    I might have the seafood pasta tonight. It’s a local specialty.

  222. Makka

    I’m not in the least surprised, IT.

  223. BrettW

    JC is on a beach in Italy yet is posting here.

    Sad.

  224. Makka

    Makka.
    Thanks man.

    Most welcome Arky.

  225. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Elle, we’ve all been told to get outa here some time or other (well, I have have anyway). I’ve also said I’m off, taking my hurt feelings with me, and have come back. You’ll get over it.

    Hairy’s stepmother is Jewish. She is a grandmother to our children, and a lovely lady. I wouldn’t come here if I thought anyone was anti-semitic on this site. They are not. But they can be brutally frank sometimes if they think you are laying anything on a bit thick. And maybe you are and maybe you are not, you think to yourself as you lick your wounds. I think women feel it particularly hard sometimes, for it is like being snarled at by the alpha males and sometimes you just don’t feel like responding, maybe it’s been a bad day with the hormones, and sometimes it can be quite lonely if you don’t have a man of your own around to cuddle you and say you are OK really. Or at least a good girlfriend handy to say you’ve lost weight and are looking good in that top, or whatever.

    We’ve just been to a lecture on the period of Witchcraft trials up here in the top lands; mostly women accused, as usual, but also some men, in small and scattered peasant communities. More people, again mostly women, burned here per head of population than anywhere else in Europe. Peasant populations isolated from mainstream thinking were fair prey for lunatic theorists who held the Church in thrall for a while about the ‘devil’ taking over human beings for evil purposes. The period in Europe and the UK was 1560 to 1660, when the wars of religion were raging, which figures. Peoples’ heads were turned weird and extreme. No toleration. And the printing press promulgated the Witchfinder book in particular.

    Up here I think there were still strong elements of the very ancient religious belief systems, shamanistic ones especially, still held by the Sami – who managed to convince the Christian missionisers that their shamans were purely for good. So the Sami were not fair game, but the young women who flocked to these northern regions for the fishing work cleaning fish were alone and without friends, and thus prey for jealous accusations in a small community. Most burned up here were young women. Let’s not forget that witches were like Valkyries (warlike women of Odin, chosers of the slain on the battlefield), rode on cats ( or broomsticks, met in covens on high mountains, said spells and performed age-old rituals. As women, they birthed children and laid out the dead, and were local healers – always dangerous to be vaguely empirical when the best healing was considered a prayer or religious icon.

    Norway is a place of much power. They give us more than half our day names. I’ve not worked out why that should be so. Sadly they now seem to be in thrall (norse word!) to the politics of the left. Viking blood is thinning.

    Sometimes they say more lefty things than they do – e.g. re guns up north and shooting the poley bears. But yes, there is a lot of climatic nonsense – without that the concern with looking after the ecological balance seems reasonable, but the ‘save the planet’ stuff feeds strongly on CO2 fantasies.

    The Norse in our language is so because we have a strong element of Norse heritage in Britain. Genetically the biggest input since the original inhabitants has been from Scandinavia. Language and culture go with the genes quite often. Britain was originally populated after the ice from the western edges of Europe before the sea closed in on them, and up the Atlantic coast by log boats. Populations had only survived in a few areas of ‘ice age’ refuge. Now the Fins have a language and some genetics similar to the Basques, while other populations have moved across Europe. The Irish are strongly Atlantic coast in the lower areas, but a big Norse impact in the upper areas; similarly, Scotland has had north sea contacts early on and I think also later. The Norse also later actually ruled England. All of this makes it, in my view, quite likely that our word for Arthur is also a Norse word, just as our days of the week are (to some extent) with a Saxon overlay (Woden and Odin are the same god). Once I analyse what that word Arthur means, then we are in some new territory regarding the prevalence and longevity of the ‘old religion’ in north-western Europe, including Britain.

    Hairy has just returned from visiting a memorial to the slaughtered ‘witches’, as we are docked in the key town of Vardo where the district court sat in the old fortress. After the talk, I couldn’t face it.

  226. JC

    Wifey agrees with you, rooster..she’s really pissed about it and I post when she’s napping or I lie that I’m messaging
    There’s not a lot you can do on a beach.

    I’m totally psyched you’re interested in my welfare though.m roost.

  227. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I mostly post when Hairy’s doing something else, such as at the gym or walking ashore on a short stop. Otherwise he’s: get off da blog. Except when he has his own nose in his ipad.

    He said to me after lunch today may it was time we started to think about dat special thing. Well, we’ve been so busy, and we’ve fallen tired out alone into our narrow single beds each night, so I gave him an inviting smile. But no, he meant it was time we got into our cozzies and braved the outside spa while we were in the seventy plus latitudes. So we did, andalthough we rarely take photographs we have the pictures to prove it!

    ps. I think in a previous post I confused the bow and the stern of this ship. As we recede from a view, we watch from the back, the stern, not the bow. I used to be the same with latitude and longitude but I am over that confusion now. The longitudes are long and go down. Easy peasy. 🙂
    Sometimes it’s very hard to be accurate about so many things. I plead my lack of basic education.
    Did I mention that Hairy recently gave me a Socratic examination of the depths of my knowledge regarding the equator, the lines of the tropics, and the delination of the polar areas. My depths were not deep, but I did know that it was something to do with the sun. We established that Socratically, after a while of careful setting out parameters by Hairy in thoughtful questions like, now, how do the earth and the sun relate to each other? What would you say? etc. 🙂

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    oops. In moderation above because of the Jooo word. So easy to forget and just write naturally.
    Oh well, I guess it will come out eventually, if not, just a word to take heart Elle and not get upset.

  229. Makka

    I’ve lived through three and lost a very good job that was a sure thing because of it.

    Working age. Not a minor.

    The last recession we had was in ’91. You were working then dotty? And the other 2? You see from your prior comments I don’t put you anywhere near that age group at all. I sense bullshit in fact but happy to be corrected. Being a toddler during a recession where your parents bore all the responsibility doesn’t really allow you to qualify. Care to clarify?
    Disclosure; I was working age through 3 – mid 70’s, 81-83 and early 90’s. Keating’s gift to us.

  230. Tintarella di Luna

    I notice how invisible the Loyal Deputy Performing Stick has become, a sure thing for a move afoot, treacherous creature is sharpening the knife and picking the entry point all we need how is for her to say she is “loyal to the leader” and it’s done.

  231. DrBeauGan

    Tintarella, what have you done to your avatar?

  232. Tintarella di Luna

    Tintarella, what have you done to your avatar?

    Hi Dr BeauGan, what are you doing up? — as for my gravatar I took a very bad photo of a little girl in a book I have on the dresser – Mommy I’m scared of the government she says — the book also has such gems as ” I married for money but this snotty guy came with it”; “I miss my ex but my aim is getting better” and such misandrist drivel — yes I know the photo is not very good and reflects my dyspepsia cause by the current political imbroglio.

  233. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks for the Week in Pictures Tom

  234. DrBeauGan

    Hi to you, Tintarella. I’m out of synch with reality. I went to sleep about eight pm Saturday and woke up full of beans at just after two am. I am having breakfast, a cigar and a bottle of diet coke. 😁

  235. DrBeauGan

    Yes, bless you Tom for WIP and all the toons. It’s a great start to the day.

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