Wind &Other doing 3.5% of demand

6.30 am UPDATE 3.5% of demand. The price well over $200 everywhere but Tasmania.
9am update, sun up and 5%. Just as well there was more wind around for dinner last night!

The dashboard. Yes I know it changes all the time.

Last night at 5.30. A cold snap, a lot of heaters turned up and dinner on the stove.

Wind and Other doing less than 8% of demand! Renewables LOL.

This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

41 Responses to Wind &Other doing 3.5% of demand

  1. Geriatric Mayfly

    A cold snap, a lot of heaters turned up and dinner on the stove.
    Wind and Other doing less than 8% of demand! Renewables LOL.

    And old growth wood being fed into the slow combustion. For shame.

  2. Peter Castieau

    “We have ended the war on beautiful clean coal “

    Donald Trump

  3. Elle

    Am in Kiama visiting a friend. It’s cold. Brrrr. Slow -cooked lamb shanks cooking away on the stove and the heater on high. About to have a red. That’ll warm me up. 🍷

  4. Leo G

    Renewables LOL.

    Renewobbles- it’s their nature.

  5. The redgum is glowing beautifully.

  6. Article in a telegraph today regarding people wingeing because the solar subsidies are dropping off and the solar panels they installed no longer bringing in the bacon. Suck it up wingers – hope it hits you hard in the hip pocket just like it has cost the rest of us a motza to prop up your rent seeking unicorn fart fake electricity scheme.

  7. egg_

    All those Windfarms in Green ‘burbs, eh?

  8. egg_

    Wot’s Lord Wentworth’s ‘burb’s ruinables contribution?

  9. Article in a telegraph today regarding people wingeing because the solar subsidies are dropping off and the solar panels they installed no longer bringing in the bacon.

    Read this and weep:

    Victorians will be able to install solar panels on their homes for half price under a $1.24 billion scheme announced by the Andrews Government.

    From today the State Government said it would pay $4,550 upfront to install the rooftop panels, and households would then be required to repay half the cost over a four-year period.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-19/victorians-to-get-half-price-solar-panels-in-government-scheme/10137484

  10. mem

    Article in a telegraph today regarding people wingeing because the solar subsidies are dropping off and the solar panels they installed no longer bringing in the bacon.

    And today Dan the Man, Chief enforcer and il President e of Victoriastan announced that, ‘The Victoria Labor government has unveiled a plan to dramatically expand the installation of rooftop solar in the state, pledging $1.2 billion in rebates and no-interest loans for more than 650,000 homes.

    “The announcement by Daniel Andrews – coming three months ahead of a state election and amid energy policy turmoil in the federal arena – will aim to install an extra 2.6 gigawatts of rooftop solar, accelerating what most people in the industry as the inevitable switch to distributed generation.”
    Seems renters don’t get anything nor do landlords. so it only goes to “working families”.
    Ha, ha! I think I smell another pink bats coming. Or has he taken a leaf out of Jay Weatherill’s book. Either way it won’t end well for Victoria. https://reneweconomy.com.au/victoria-labor-pledges-1-2-billion-in-rebates-loans-for-rooftop-solar-19774/

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    Either way it won’t end well for Victoria.

    When was the last time Government intervention in the market actually worked? Even more germane, when was a the last time a Labor Government ever managed such a novelty?

  12. Roger

    Love coal!

    Love it while it lasts.

  13. Macspee

    Should last for at least the next 3-500 years.

  14. mem

    In coming news. Turnbull has just tried to turn course again on the NEG and has done an about turn regarding legislating or regulating via ministerial approval. He will change a million times before giving up on his ideal of leading the”first renewable republic”. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/19/turnbull-sets-out-power-price-fix-to-stay-ahead-of-coalition-rebellion

  15. Roger

    Should last for at least the next 3-500 years.

    In QLD, which currently props up the eastern grid most days, we have bipartisan political party agreement that coal fired electricity will be phased out over the next 10-30 years.

    We’ll keep selling it to Japan and India, though.

  16. Nob

    Macspee
    #2793416, posted on August 19, 2018 at 7:15 pm
    Should last for at least the next 3-500 years

    The end of Australian coal reserves is further in the future than the start of the Industrial Revolution is in the past.

    Tell that to the windmill monkeys.

  17. Rafe Champion

    Great way to put it Nob!
    Very telling☺

  18. Rafe Champion

    Update W&O doing less than 5%.

  19. P

    With mechanisation we’ve come a long way since the days when my mother did her training as a RN 1932-1936 at Wallsend Mining District Hospital (near Newcastle).

  20. stackja

    P
    #2793565, posted on August 19, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    You load sixteen tons, what do you get
    Another day older and deeper in debt

  21. duncanm

    From today the State Government said it would pay $4,550 upfront to install the rooftop panels, and households would then be required to repay half the cost over a four-year period.

    what’s the bet a large portion of those never get repaid.

  22. mareeS

    4 degrees here at Merewether Beach. Last time it got this low was 1974. How’s that for climate bullshit?

    Also, I am refusing to start up the gas heater just to spite AGL, with whom we are shareholders. How mad is that? My merino fleece is keeping me warm while reading and writing.

  23. mareeS

    Capitulated. I have turned on the gas heater. It has dropped to 3 here at Merewether Beach, we have never had it like this. I won’t be swimming today, water temp is down to 14 in the ocean.

  24. Mark M

    What the BoM said:
    May 31, 2018: Winter is coming, and it’s looking mighty mild
    So, what’s the outlook for winter?
    “For instance, forecast warmer-than-usual temperatures in the Tasman Sea and the associated lower-than-normal air pressure this winter is likely to contribute to a weakening of westerly winds over southern Australia that would normally draw cold fronts up from the Southern Ocean.

    As a result of the weakened westerly winds, below-average winter rainfall is likely for western parts of Western Australia, and for most of New South Wales extending across the border into southern Queensland and northern Victoria.
    For most other parts, the outlook is neutral, meaning roughly equal chances of above- or below-average rainfall.”

    https://theconversation.com/winter-is-coming-and-its-looking-mighty-mild-97466

    June 1: Winter has finally arrived in Australia, with a record breaking cold start to the season for parts of the country.
    Despite warmer and drier conditions forecast for winter this year, residents in Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney woke up shivering this morning.
    https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/06/01/07/49/australia-weather-melbourne-sydney-brisbane-winter-forecast

    06/06/2018
    Extreme Weather Outlook: The heaviest rain so far this year will bring relief to much of southern Australia over the next week.
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5793984406001

    june 18 2018: Coolangatta in Queensland had its ‘coldest morning ever’ on Monday, with temperatures dropping to just 0.6C.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855295/Amazing-scenes-ski-resorts-fields-blanketed-heaviest-snowfall-18-years.html

    July 6: Severe weather warning for Adelaide, parts of SA
    https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/severe-weather-warning-for-adelaide-parts-of-sa/news-story/8de82f7366b36ad9122c607b4d9910ce

    Link limit prevents further posts of the successive cold fronts continuing to blow across Oz …

  25. Jonesy

    2000 years of black coal under the 300/500 years of brown coal in Latrobe valley. Too deep? but close enough for unconventional gas!

  26. Crossie

    Article in a telegraph today regarding people wingeing because the solar subsidies are dropping off and the solar panels they installed no longer bringing in the bacon. Suck it up wingers – hope it hits you hard in the hip pocket just like it has cost the rest of us a motza to prop up your rent seeking unicorn fart fake electricity scheme.

    I still insist that this was a more immoral policy than tax breaks to the top end of town. Working and middle classes could rail against in unison against the tax cuts but this scheme pits neighbour against neighbour where those with a little cash get more of it from government while the have nots are punished by higher electricity prices to subsidise their neighbours with solar panels.

    Greens are evil and hate all people but mostly the poor people and Malcolm is their avatar.

  27. Crossie

    I won’t be swimming today, water temp is down to 14 in the ocean.

    You must be mistaken, I hear the oceans are dangerously warm.

  28. Fat Tony

    Crossie
    #2793775, posted on August 20, 2018 at 7:01 am
    I won’t be swimming today, water temp is down to 14 in the ocean.

    You must be mistaken, I hear the oceans are dangerously warm.

    Yep – apparently the oceans are going to boil off soon….

  29. yarpos

    I can accept that renewables are ineffective, that seems obvious. The real issue is that they arr so damaging while the stagger along not delivering much at all.

  30. John Bayley

    I still insist that this was a more immoral policy than tax breaks to the top end of town.

    Seeing that the ‘top end of town’, as you put it, pays some 90% of the taxes collected, what exactly is immoral about giving them at least some relief? (Not that any is on the horizon in any case!)

  31. Seeing that the ‘top end of town’, as you put it, pays some 90% of the taxes collected, what exactly is immoral about giving them at least some relief? (Not that any is on the horizon in any case!).

    Do the “top end of town” receive 90% of the income and from whose pocket?

  32. Snoopy

    the ‘top end of town’

    Superannuation account holders.

  33. Entropy

    Seeing that the ‘top end of town’, as you put it, pays some 90% of the taxes collected, what exactly is immoral about giving them at least some relief? (Not that any is on the horizon in any case!)

    There is quite a bit of difference between tax relief and getting subsidised by the poor. Your perspective is astonishing! Think it through a bit more carefully please.

  34. struth

    When we talk about taxes, can we break them up into private sector and public sector taxpayers.
    The top end of town is now the public sector and those contracted to it, so, in a corrupt socialist shithole like Australia, who are the actual taxpayer.
    Because there is no such animal as a public servant who pays tax.

  35. Roger

    Great way to put it Nob!

    Yes, but the issue isn’t the scarcity of coal, it’s the morality of it.

    The hypocrisy of governments in NSW & QLD which aggressively subsidise renewables and plan the phasing out of coal, thereby distorting the market and disrupting the real economy (demand management), not to mention inflicting budgetary pain and real discomfort on households, while still exporting coal to the world needs to be exposed.

  36. RobK

    I predict that Dan’s RE promotion incentives will have knock-on effect costs for the distributors as they find they need to modify substation-to-street level monitoring and control of voltage, harmonics, surges, spikes, power factor, stray ground currents, and fault-current issues as the % of distributed RE starts to exceed demand at the consumer end of substations.
    A system of hundreds of thousands of wobbly tin-pot inverters on the street level will see efforts made to stabilize it with expensive industrial grade patch up fixes, the cost of which will be on top of the dollar figures announced.

  37. Entropy

    I agree there should be a differentiation, Struth, but public servants should pay tax so they have a clue of the impact on others

  38. Speedbox

    As at 9:25 am, W&O at 4.6%.

  39. Michael Warren

    The history of mankind is a story of energy density (to paraphrase Matt Ridley). Renewables cannot work. There’s not enough potential to do work efficiently between gust and calm or light and shade. The main problem beign that the variability is equal to the entire potential. In a coal fired boiler, the variability in temperature is a fraction of a percent of the maximum.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.