Aust Taxpayers Cheap Energy Guarantee

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15 Responses to Aust Taxpayers Cheap Energy Guarantee

  1. stackja

    19th century energy before 20th century madness.

  2. DaveR

    Some of the proposals in this 9 point plan just wont work in Australia. Under Australian law, all minerals and energy in the ground (oil and gas), whether freeholdland or not, is owned by the Crown. Any royalties levied from the discovery and production of those resources are the property of the Crown. To distort the law for landowners sitting above gas reserves only, and not for minerals, is not going to work. ps USA has a different ownershp system.

  3. Ministers take no notice of these sorts of forms, whether digital or printed (it’s all too easy to spoof). Only individually written letters are acknowledged (to whatever degree).

    Additionally, all these sorts of things do is give a shed load of personal contact details to all and sundry. No thanks.

  4. Not Uh oh

    I wasn’t aware (as they are saying in point 3) that the federal govt plans to abolish the Renewable Energy Target and phase out subsidies by 2020. Is that right?

  5. John Michelmore

    Bemused, do you have any suggestions that might work? You probably already know the saying about good men doing nothing!

  6. cohenite

    Great document, makes sense, will go no where.

  7. struth

    Ministers take no notice of these sorts of forms, whether digital or printed (it’s all too easy to spoof). Only individually written letters are acknowledged (to whatever degree).

    Additionally, all these sorts of things do is give a shed load of personal contact details to all and sundry. No thanks.

    exactly

  8. Bemused, do you have any suggestions that might work? You probably already know the saying about good men doing nothing!

    I’ve been involved in these things before and the only way is by writing personally to your local member or directly to the minister involved. Either way the message will generally get through and I think writing to your local member is more productive, as they have some immediate skin in the game ie getting elected, or not, by their constituents.

    Forums such as Catallaxy, JoNova etc are also good sounding boards, as they are watched and noted. The same applies to sites like Quadrant, where responses to posts are an indication of general thoughts and feelings about government policy.

    But what’s also needed are organisations, like that linked, to go out on the streets and sell their message to the general public; to those who aren’t necessarily aware or yet to be concerned about what’s happening. This is where Labor (through unions) and the Greens (through their rabble) have it all over conservative voices, as they talk to their audiences all the time.

    I do the latter as much as possible around the local traps and have a pretty good feel for what a lot of the silent majority think, but don’t say publicly because of an increasingly Green infested township where the minority have the loudest voices. But you do what you can.

  9. Roger

    Ministers take no notice of these sorts of forms, whether digital or printed (it’s all too easy to spoof). Only individually written letters are acknowledged (to whatever degree).

    Not so; if a petition is sent to parliament it is referred to the relevant minister for a written response (assuming it meets the necessary criteria, which is determined by a committee).

    Perhaps we ought to reintroduce the tradition of the debating of petitions on the floor of the House if they pass a set numerical threshold of signatories?

  10. Peter Campion

    But what’s also needed are organisations, like that linked, to go out on the streets and sell their message to the general public; to those who aren’t necessarily aware or yet to be concerned about what’s happening.

    Bemused, I do this as an individual using the letters to the editor soapboxes in my region’s newspapers.

    I condense the information sourced from the blogs into short, sharp letters that use the common man’s language.

    There’s the occasional greenie blowback, but most feedback I get is positive. It helps that I don’t do soshul meeja and that I’m retired.

  11. Not so; if a petition is sent to parliament it is referred to the relevant minister for a written response (assuming it meets the necessary criteria, which is determined by a committee).

    What happens is that the relevant minister acknowledges the petition and responds to the originator, but that’s where it generally ends. The minister won’t respond to each person that signed the petition (digital or paper based), as the petition was a group submission.

    I’ve sent letters to ministers in the past and they are responded to by the minister’s office, to me, as an individual. This is one aspect where all such form letters/petitions fail, they aren’t individual/independent submissions.

  12. Crossie

    Not Uh oh
    #2794302, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    I wasn’t aware (as they are saying in point 3) that the federal govt plans to abolish the Renewable Energy Target and phase out subsidies by 2020. Is that right?

    Means absolutely nothing, the only thing they could do right is stop all subsidies right now. Everything else is just empty promises. I got my electricity bill today totalling $1150 and I will not vote Liberal until that is at least halved and Malcolm gone.

    I no longer blame just Malcolm, the whole party are his enablers and they can all take a long jump off a short pier.

  13. Colonel Crispin Berka, Kings' Fusiliers Corps.

    It is proposed that the National Energy Guarantee would ensure 18% of energy emissions be sourced from renewable sources

    This is a joke, right?

    Their alternative to having a federally mandated supply of ruinables is… to have a federally mandated supply of ruinables.

    *sigh* We find the DelCons versus the DefCons all over again.
    Do you support the lesser of two evils and tolerate continued damage, or punish the lesser of the two evils to dissuade them from remaining evil and also put up with the greater evil gaining power and doing even more damage for 4 years in the meantime?

    I reckon the DefCons are mistakenly treating improvement as the enemy of perfection.

  14. Crossie

    I’m not signing any petitions, they know full well what we think and how we feel. They couldn’t care less so I return the favour. The entire LNP coalition do not deserve to hold more than a handful of lower house seats or any Senate seats.

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