High Noon for Mal?

Approaching high noon, lots of sunshine, demand down and Wind & Other delivering 7% of demand.

Is it too late for a new Coalition leadership team to dump the Paris accord, call bullshit on the RE target and the NEG, create a credible policy to keep the lights on and sell it the few percent of voters required to change their current voting intention and swing the result at the next election?

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77 Responses to High Noon for Mal?

  1. Death Giraffe

    Yes.
    It is too late.
    They will ride Turnbull to electoral oblivion.

  2. Elle

    Way too late, Rafe. They imploded a long time ago.

  3. Confused Old Misfit

    Don’t think the bed wetters will be able to let go of their perceived security blanket even as it drags them through the “S” bend.

  4. Baldrick

    The Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party is dead.
    The only thing giving it any semblance of movement are the maggots.

  5. A Lurker

    Is it too late for a new Coalition leadership team to dump the Paris accord, call bullshit on the RE target and the NEG, create a credible policy to keep the lights on and sell it the few percent of voters required to change their current voting intention and swing the result at the next election?

    They would need to grow a brain first.

  6. Just Interested

    Too little, too late.

    Doesn’t matter who leads them. They’re gone.

  7. Chris

    The Useless Blimp.
    Stabby McStabbyface.
    The $50Bn Poodle.

    Fuggedahboudit.

  8. Roberto

    For a group of rational, motivated people it wouldn’t be too late.

    But we’re talking about the Liberal Party here…

  9. It’s never too late to start rebuilding.

    The first step is to admit there’s a problem (Turnbull). The second step is to fix the problem (get rid of Turnbull). The final step is to hit the road to recovery (implement sane policies).

  10. Speedbox

    Yeah, no. Not going to happen. The Libs don’t have the guts/honesty. Will expose Mal that everything said to the electorate is an expensive lie. Even with Turdbull gone, lack of guts/honesty will cripple those remaining in the existing Party. No, sorry, but the best path is to tear it down and then rebuild.

  11. Neil

    They will ride Turnbull to electoral oblivion.

    I think you are right but why do 55% of Australians want Labor? The economy is actually doing OK. My Super fund is going gangbusters. Unemployment is lower than any time under hawke/keating. How come the ALP gets such loyalty from Australians when they trash everything they touch when in power?

  12. Roger

    There could be supernatural writing on the party room wall tomorrow saying “Your time is up. You’ve been weighed and found wanting, the party leadership is to be given to… ” but it would be met with the same level of understanding as a cow looking at a new gate.

  13. Habib

    2/3 of the party room would have to commit seppuku, and have the remainder set their entrails on fire, then be repalced by Trump clones to have a fleeting prayer of re-election. It’s far more likely they’ll maintain course and speed.

  14. Habib

    How come the ALP gets such loyalty from Australians when they trash everything they touch when in power? Omerta and inbreeding.

  15. JohnA

    I know predictions are always risky – especially about the future, but I venture to hope that a leadership spill could install Tony Abbott as Leader with Peter Dutton as Deputy.

  16. struth

    Don’t get excited.
    They haven’t got rid of Turnbull yet.
    Not by a long shot.
    With near 50 % female participation in the party it means every boob only has one testicle.

  17. Yohan

    If the Liberals had bitten the bullet and made the tough moves back in 2014, we could have been seeing new clean coal plants opening next year.

    All this time wasted…

  18. Tim Neilson

    I think you are right but why do 55% of Australians want Labor? ….How come the ALP gets such loyalty from Australians when they trash everything they touch when in power?

    These things are relative, not absolute.

    The rancid stench of vileness still emanates from Peanut Head and his fellow crims.

    However, $50 billion submarines, general incompetence, smarminess, etc., are making people think that currently it’s a choice between Trumble Labor and Peanut Head Labor, and that getting a non-Labor alternative requires creative destruction.

  19. struth

    think you are right but why do 55% of Australians want Labor? ….How come the ALP gets such loyalty from Australians when they trash everything they touch when in power?

    They don’t.

    Preferential compulsory voting………………………………………

  20. Habib

    Liberal/conservative people are rational enough to make judgments based on policy and performance, and can and have walked away from the coalition in droves, as they no longer represent their values or interests. Labor/green rusted-on are zealots, utterly tribal, and oblivious to failure, folly or outright criminality. Ever tried having a rational discussion with one of the window-lickers? You’d get a more coherent conversation from a laughing clown. Of course both sides, but especially labor because free stuff, attract a plethora of rent-seekers, grifters, embezzlers, perverts and sociopaths.

  21. Not too late at all. Leadership spill within next month, then go straight to election with no RET, withdraw from Paris, abolish HRC, cut public service by 10% over 5 years, delete piles of useless laws and regulations, merge the ABC and SBS and cut combined funding by 20%, dump all subsidies to renewables, stand up and promote the principles of western civilisation, cut immigration levels by 50% for 5 years – then watch the votes roll in. (And get a rugby team that can beat the All Blacks.)

  22. Dr Faustus

    …it would be met with the same level of understanding as a cow looking at a new gate.

    A neat summation.

    Any theoretical Dutton Government would have to form a Cabinet and establish new priorities drawn from the Turnbull Winners’ Circle, or the slack-jawed herd.

    Doesn’t exactly have electoral success written all over it.

    The marginal Libs are dead in the water. Would they rather stop twitching at an early election following Turnbull’s removal – or in nearly $200,000 12 months time?

  23. Boambee John

    David

    , cut public service by 10% over 5 years,

    Cut public service by 20% over 3 years,

    Fixed that for you.

  24. Habib

    Cut public service by 100% over ten years, annually. and make it retrospective.

  25. OldOzzie

    Pool on Daily Telegraph PM admits he doesn’t have enough support from his own party

    Does Australia need a Mew Leader – 84% say yes

  26. OldOzzie

    OK “Poll” not “Pool” – “Does Australia meed a New Leader” now 85% Yes

  27. Jo Smyth

    Habib, the ALP get such loyalty because Labor can talk the talk, promise everything, deliver nothing but for some reason, Labor voters can’t quite manage to figure it out.

  28. If there’s any reason for getting rid of Turnbull, this is it:

    Malcolm Turnbull has dumped the emissions reduction target section of his National Energy Guarantee, conceding there is not enough support for it to get through Parliament as his political opponents urge Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to challenge him for the leadership.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-20/politics-live-august-20/10138786

    Turnbull isn’t a leader, he’s a loser. Whatever it takes, to stay PM.

  29. stackja

    The outlaws approach and the gunfight begins. Kane guns down Ben Miller and Colby, but is wounded in the process. As the train is about to leave the station, Amy hears the gunfire, leaps off, and runs back to town. Choosing her husband’s life over her religious beliefs, she picks up Ben Miller’s gun and shoots Pierce from behind, leaving only Frank Miller, who grabs Amy as a shield to force Kane into the open. Amy claws Miller’s face and he pushes her to the ground, giving Kane a clear shot, and he shoots Miller dead.

    Kane helps his bride to her feet and they embrace. As the townspeople emerge and cluster around him, Kane surveys them with bitter contempt, wordlessly throws his marshal’s star in the dirt, and departs with Amy on their wagon.

  30. Diogenes

    Cut public service by to 20% over 3 years,

    My version reads better

  31. Habib

    Often labor are harder on their base, especially the public service. They know they can treat them like shit and they’ll still vote for them. Says a lot about selection standards.

  32. H B Bear

    Yep. Lieborals are all aboard the Turnbull train. Next stop – electoral oblivion.

  33. billie

    I’ll vote Labor if it means getting rid of the prick who has disenfranchised me, once again.

    We thought when Petro Georgio, Kooyong, went we would see some sanity in our area, but not to be. Josh has well and truly let us down, what a dissappointment.
    Might as well have Petro back for all the good it does us .. another political wally.

    In the words of the Daleks paraphrasing the Pope’s army at Beziers “exterminate them all”, “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius” (Their gods will know them, gaia etc)

    Even Dutton and Abbott and let’s start again, it might take a generation but the corruption is so deep in the Liberal Party it’s not worth saving.

    Yes the Labor Party is shyte, but the Liberal Party is just a fraction off them at the moment and at least they might rise from the ashes, whereas Labor will never be anything but a corrupt extesion of the union movement.

  34. It’s interesting to note that prior to Abbott winning, all the usual culprits were saying that the Liberal Party would be in limbo for at least 10 years, if not longer. Turnbull was supposed to be the saviour of the Liberal Party and look what he’s done, very likely brought the Abbott prediction to fruition.

    Turnbull, the man who would be king.

  35. stackja

    Frankie Laine also had a hit with song.

  36. Dr Fred Lenin

    What David and Boambee said ,then withdraw preselection from the alp infiltrators in the liberal party and destroyphiotos and the like . Make the Libs the real Peoples party ,unlike the reds who pretend to be . Spend the first six months repealing all bullshit laws ,ndis ,gonski etc ,eliminate the carpetbaggers and crony capitalists by definancing them It can be done ,such a plan would ensure sensible government for years to come ,and weaken the left to a rump of what it has become . Next term begin reform of the political system to eliminate career politics and reduce parties to voluntary groups with no money and little influence,we could be a model for the peoples democracies and destroy Narxist fascism .

  37. stackja

    Dr FL – TA wanted reform. MT doesn’t.

  38. Senile Old Guy

    I think you are right but why do 55% of Australians want Labor?

    They don’t. The primary vote is around 35% for both the LNP and ALP. But in the House of Repulsives, preferential voting ensures a win to the ALP or LNP, every time.

  39. stackja

    SOG preference supposedly democratic.

  40. H B Bear

    SOG preference supposedly democratic.

    Not if they all end up with the UniParty under legal compulsion.

  41. John Constantine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twF0Aa7GVJA

    Great Death Scenes. The Man Who Would Be King.

    [Just give bloody bishop the machete already.]

  42. duncanm

    weekend at Bernie’s.

    They can’t admit the death lest the party be shut down.

  43. Iampeter

    I don’t remember leadership being such an issue when Howard ran a completely leftist government building the environmentalist bureaucracy and middle class welfare in this country. Or when Abbott gave us an ETS and agreed to sign us onto the Paris Agreement. By simply doing nothing, Malcolm has already been the least bad leader the Coalition has had in decades.

    A leadership change isn’t going to address the real issue which is a complete lack of any ideas in the conservative movement. But talking about leadership helps conservatives avoid having to face up to the fact that they don’t really know anything about politics.

    I think you are right but why do 55% of Australians want Labor? ….How come the ALP gets such loyalty from Australians when they trash everything they touch when in power?

    Because they’re consistent.
    When you’re choices are just different bunches of socialists then the ones that don’t constantly contradict themselves tend to poll better.

  44. Speedbox

    So what is the solution? Preferential voting will get either Labor or Lib over the line and into power. Even a vote for every minor party listed on your ballot paper will eventually end up with Labor or Lib. Labor or Lib could have first preference values of 1%, but minor party preferences will get one of them into power.

    So, don’t vote? How is this solved?

  45. Leo G

    Approaching high noon, lots of sunshine, demand down and Wind & Other delivering 7% of demand.
    Is it too late for a new Coalition leadership team to … swing the result at the next election?

    Wait along, wait along
    (Wait along)
    Wait along, wait along
    (Wait along, wait along, wait along, wait along)

  46. destroyer D69

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/06/15/cut-the-beer-tax-and-win-a-landslide-a-la-ontario/ A set of policies that REALLY resonated with the voters….. Aus pollies take note……

  47. Empire 5:5

    Is it too late for a new Coalition leadership team to dump the Paris accord, call bullshit on the RE target and the NEG, create a credible policy to keep the lights on and sell it the few percent of voters required to change their current voting intention and swing the result at the next election?

    Too late? No, of course not. Will it happen? No.

    A plan, a spine and the will to win while betting it all, might do the trick. Call a half senate election soon after launch (pre Christmas) and test the appeal. Then run out the knife edge Reps right up until Spring.

    The alternative is defeat.

  48. Empire 5:5

    So, don’t vote? How is this solved?

    By destroying the fakestream media.

    Until that happens, all your narrative belong to them.

  49. cohenite

    Move to the US and hope they can clone Trump.

  50. OldOzzie

    Am I really reading an SMH Article? (Note the Author, but still SMH?)

    The obvious choice’: Tony Abbott is the Coalition’s only hope

  51. Tel

    By simply doing nothing, Malcolm has already been the least bad leader the Coalition has had in decades.

    Being useless is Mal’s most endearing feature, I’ll agree with you on that.

    He hasn’t exactly done nothing, but the less he does the better.

  52. stackja

    OzEmail was a major Internet service provider in Australia, until it was acquired by the iiNet ISP on 28 February 2005. Wikipedia
    Founded: 1992
    Ceased operations: 28 February 2005
    Founders: Malcolm Turnbull, Sean Howard
    Key people: Sean Howard, Malcolm Turnbull

  53. What Elle said and David has the solution:

    Not too late at all. Leadership spill within next month, then go straight to election with no RET, withdraw from Paris, abolish HRC, cut public service by 10% over 5 years, delete piles of useless laws and regulations, merge the ABC and SBS and cut combined funding by 20%, dump all subsidies to renewables, stand up and promote the principles of western civilisation, cut immigration levels by 50% for 5 years – then watch the votes roll in. (And get a rugby team that can beat the All Blacks.)

    This of course is boilerplate LDP policy…

  54. jupes

    They can’t change.

    Not only would the Libs have to dump the head clown but at least 95% of the leftist hacks who make up the rest of the party.

  55. H B Bear

    The always readable James Allan over at Quadrant Online,

    Anyone else share my view that this is the worst Liberal government in the nation’s history?

    For ineptitude, lack of tactical nous, arrogance, incompetence, and habitual treachery, he leaves all of history’s other dim-bulb contenders in the shade.

  56. No taxation without representation.
    444 Turnbull has to go!

  57. Dr Faustus

    The obvious choice’: Tony Abbott is the Coalition’s only hope

    ‘Cate’ McGregor attempting to troll the Liberals.

  58. Neil

    I don’t remember leadership being such an issue when Howard ran a completely leftist government building the environmentalist bureaucracy and middle class welfare in this country.

    Howard ran surplus budgets. Leftists don’t run surplus budgets

  59. egg_

    weekend at Bernie’s.

    +1

    Fascist Trumble’s body is already hanging from the rafters.

  60. Lysander

    Leftards who now openly say Abbott’s the answer only say so because they see a defeat coming and they want Tony to pay; not Maocon. They can blame the Abbottbeast666 for droughts, rains, Gaia’s sickness. Maocon will be left blameless; torn down by ebil conservative who, with Murdoch, have plans to destroy the world.

  61. egg_

    torn down by ebil conservative who, with Murdoch, have plans to destroy the world.

    Whilst Teh Left are busy unifying one almighty Global sh1thole.

  62. DaveR

    No its not too late. There is plenty of time for new leader to bring in new policies which finally contrast the Coaliton fron Labor and re-consolidate the coalition voter base. That on its own should do the trick. Forget the strategy of hopelessly moderate policies and trying to steal Labor voters.

  63. Entropy

    Its too late if for no other reason that Mick Trumble on loss of the leadership would resign from parliament, triggering a by elction and losing the seat of Wentworth to fall to the greens and a change of government to an ALP greens coalition.

    I actually think that is the best outcome of the alternatives.

  64. Makka

    This of course is boilerplate LDP policy…

    Along with the weakening of our border protection.

  65. egg_

    Its too late if for no other reason that Mick Trumble on loss of the leadership would resign from parliament, triggering a by elction and losing the seat of Wentworth to fall to the greens and a change of government to an ALP greens coalition.

    I actually think that is the best outcome of the alternatives.

    +1

  66. egg_

    What’s teh negative Newspolls quota at?

  67. Roger

    Anyone else share my view that this is the worst Liberal government in the nation’s history?

    Maladroit makes Howard look like Churchill.

  68. Crossie

    Andrew Bolt rubbishing Peter Dutton as not good enough. The way I see it Dutton is far better than 90 % of Libs in Canberra today.

    The longer they wait with Malcolm the worse it will get, this indecision is just alienating the voters. These things were done very quickly in the past to minimise damage. The current crop of pollies are poor specimens and indications are that that gene pool is getting even shallower.

  69. Andrew Bolt rubbishing Peter Dutton as not good enough.

    I gave up reading/watching Bolt some time ago. He’s lost the plot on so many things and and lately he seems to have become a Malcolm Fraser. The other Malcolm is much the same.

  70. Kev, in the Canberra dome

    Rafe, the Liberal Party is dead. They are no better than the Labor party, a bunch of power seeking crooks who would sell us out to international interests. It is more important to these goons that they adhere to the wishes of their UN overlords rather than the wishes of everyday Australian voters. The whole situation is a joke and this country is going to shit, fast. Wish I could be more positive.

  71. Boz

    Best version of High Noon? Tennessee Ernie Ford. Frankie Lane close second.

  72. struth

    Rafe, the Liberal Party is dead. They are no better than the Labor party, a bunch of power seeking crooks who would sell us out to international interests. It is more important to these goons that they adhere to the wishes of their UN overlords rather than the wishes of everyday Australian voters. The whole situation is a joke and this country is going to shit, fast. Wish I could be more positive.

  73. duncanm

    … so Malcolm’s playing dirty.

  74. There is one absolute indicator that Turnbull has to go, both Their ABC and the Age are solidly behind Turnbull and publishing article after article supporting him.

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