Monday Forum: August 20, 2018

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  1. Confused Old Misfit

    Those landings/go arounds speak volumes for the engineering of the aircraft and the skill of the pilots.

  2. calli

    That last Air France – what the? Mechanical failure surely.

    Please don’t tell me any of those airports are Denver. Or Norleans.

  3. Drink-up Socrates

    It was a prototype 380 during a test flight.

  4. John Constantine

    Welcome to Rampant Consumerism, Victorian style.

    Easiest way to consume is to vote for the side that will loot the rich and give chicom PLA solar panels and hot water services to the voteherds..

    Comrades.

  5. harrys on the boat

    What is the point of replacing Turnbull? The Libs are finished, let him lead them off the cliff.

    At the gym, at lunchtime one of the TV’s has ABC24 on and its live from parliament. Luckily it’s on mute, but just a glance at the goat rodeo of fuckwits sat behind Turnbull is enough to clearly show the Libs are beyond saving.

  6. H B Bear

    It was a prototype 380 during a test flight.

    Back to the drawing board.

  7. Lysander

    Too early for Hastie? I demand equity for a WA Lib PM!

  8. Elle

    COM, I’ve written here before that I am terrified of the landings. Am fascinated by the airliners though. There are vantage points around Sydney airport you can go and be right under the flight path as they come into land. Excitingly scary!

  9. Baldrick

    Welcome to Rampant Consumerism, Victorian style.
    Easiest way to consume is to vote for the side that will loot the rich and give chicom PLA solar panels and hot water services to the voteherds..

    Ah yes John, but to be able to benefit from this planet saving measure you’ll have to vote Labor at the next state election.

  10. Bruce in WA

    Twice as big and twice as thick.

    Please.

    It’s not that sort of blog.

  11. Mother Lode

    the public “don’t want politicians blueing over this.”
    Mmmmyes.

    That is what I don’t get.

    We know that the only thing that voters want is ‘certainty’. They don’t care what is done to them as long as they know it.

    So why do death row inmates lodge all those appeals? They already have a death sentence which is absolutely certain? Why would they go hawking after uncetainty.

    Even Mick Trumble understands that elections are are a frightful torment for us, so he is trying to make it so that, whoever you vote for, you will get a left wing government. So, why aren’t people more grateful?

  12. Bruce in WA

    COM, I’ve written here before that I am terrified of the landings.

    I find myself bemused and amused of late at this apparent new practice of the passengers clapping when the plane has landed.

    WTF?

    Do they clap when their train pulls into their station? Or when the taxi turns onto their driveway?

    No? Then don’t be dicks and clap when the plane lands.

    (Unless it’s safe after a one-wheel touchdown with a 40-knot crosswind, in a hailstorm, ice forming on the wings and the plane being flown by someone whose only experience is in a Jabiru 160-D and who’s flying because the aircrew have food poisoning from eating the fish when they should have chosen the beef and … never mind. Then you can clap!)

  13. woolfe

    Dutton PM, Hastie Defence, Abbott Treasurer. Do they need anymore?

  14. Confused Old Misfit

    Air France Flight 296 was a chartered flight of a newly-delivered fly-by-wire Airbus A320 operated by Air France. On June 26, 1988, as part of an air show it was scheduled to fly over Mulhouse-Habsheim Airport (ICAO code LFGB) at a low speed with landing gear down at an altitude of 100 feet, but instead slowly descended to 30 feet before crashing into the tops of trees beyond the runway. Three passengers died. The cause of the accident is disputed, as many irregularities were later revealed by the accident investigation. This was the first ever crash involving an Airbus A320.

  15. Elle

    Stop throwing out bait, Bruce in WA. I’m trying to be good!

  16. calli

    Dutton mentioned in dispatches over at Sultan Knish.

  17. stackja

    MT still saying party room supported him last week. Now says they don’t.

  18. H B Bear

    New Victoriastani licence plates – “No room on the train but you can have a cheap hot shower if the sun is shining”.

  19. Elle

    That was a failure, COM. No automated planes or cars please.

  20. Rococo Liberal

    The problem is that Australians are more interested in footy than in politics.

    No, that isn’t a problem. All sane adults should be more interested in everyday life than they are in politics. The real problem is that there are too many deadbeat no-hopers who are far too interested in politics and want to push politics into every sphere of human life.
    We need an anti-politcs party. That is what the Liberals are supposed to be. But they have gone all Ted Heath. They have become ”house trained” not so much by the Civil Service as by the media.

  21. Bruce in WA

    Stop throwing out bait, Bruce in WA. I’m trying to be good!

    😀

  22. H B Bear

    Time for Lord Waffles to hit the switch to The Father of Middle Class Welfare’s refrain, “I will lead the Lieboral party for as long as they want me too.”

    And then ignore them.

  23. Speedbox

    Yeah, I am fascinated by flight. If I had my time again, I would look to it as a career. A few years ago I took a number of helicopter flying lessons but gave up, in part, due to my age. I loved the idea of flying a helicopter and wanted to do so, but eventually wondered what I would do with the licence having achieved it – it was going to cost a boatload, I was most likely too old to realistically get any decent job with it, and I had to maintain it (flight hours etc) at significant annual cost.

    Ultimately, the pragmatic side of my brain took over. Still, I thoroughly enjoyed what little exposure I can claim. If only I had done it when I was younger….

  24. woolfe

    Bet Malcolm will announce a referendum on Da Republik soon.

  25. Atoms for Peace

    Are we talking about a ventral hole now as opposed to the dorsal hole ?

  26. Boambee John

    Rococo Liberal at 1534

    Plus lots. Ordinary people should not notice the actions of a competent government.

    When he came to power, Howard wanted politics off the front page and sport on it.

  27. stackja

    woolfe Barton ministry was small.

  28. dragnet

    Elle, that’s a great pastime taking up a salient position near the Airport. The hilly bits of Arncliffe and Rockdale are good for the Nth-Sth runway. Bellevue St Sydenham, right on the western edge is an amazing location too. Buggered if I know how the (former) residents used to cope. The last of the houses disappeared about 3 yrs ago I think.

  29. Cassie of Sydney

    Turdbull in 2017….he’d “never had more fun'”.

    Methinks Turdbull isn’t having much fun today!

  30. Cassie of Sydney

    Turdbull is being excoriated in question time….good. The smirk is gone and he is looking downcast….good.

  31. stackja

    BS says MPs have more influence over policy then MT. This is bad?

  32. woolfe

    Malotto, well Friday looks good, say 3pm?

  33. Top Ender

    Pyne in a fix?

    Pyne in a box more like it.

    Pine box?

  34. max

    The Vic Libs need a cluebat.

    Andrews announces solar panels on every roof. Libs counter with compulsory sports or something.

    So progressive.

    They should just announce $200 off every vehicle rego if elected.

    They’d canter in.

  35. LNP insider

    If Dutton gets the numbers then the deputy leader will be Greg Hunt and he gets choice of portfolio. Abbott will be in Defence or Home Affairs.

  36. areff

    They should just announce $200 off every vehicle rego if elected.

    And reform of the speed-camera (read: revenue camera) gouging

  37. DrBeauGan

    Rococo Liberal
    #2794244, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    The problem is that Australians are more interested in footy than in politics.

    No, that isn’t a problem. All sane adults should be more interested in everyday life than they are in politics. The real problem is that there are too many deadbeat no-hopers who are far too interested in politics and want to push politics into every sphere of human life.
    We need an anti-politcs party. That is what the Liberals are supposed to be. But they have gone all Ted Heath. They have become ”house trained” not so much by the Civil Service as by the media.

    And when you have a corrupt political class as a result of the no-hopers playing up, how are you going to fix it when most voters haven’t even noticed?

    Sure it would be great to be able to trust politicians to just get on with it competently and honestly. But we don’t live in that world anymore. And getting the voters to understand that might involve dragging them away from the telly.

  38. johanna

    Still shadowbanned, it’s all the rage these days, especially among libertarians.

    My comments are in permanent moderation. Meaning that many, perhaps most, readers will never see them.

    I’m not reading the OT. have better things to do while I’m treated like less than a person who accused me of using a mouldy dildo or another who claimed that I was a drunken whore.

    Not that teacher’s pet or playing favourites have a role here. Apparenty I have both used mouldy dildos and am a drunken whore. No pushback from the management there.

    Ya get that.

    P.S. Hi, Stimpy. 🙂

  39. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sam Dastyari’s Disgrace pilot hit by low ratings
    Jonathon Moran, The Daily Telegraph
    August 20, 2018 9:19am
    Subscriber only

    IT was a disappointing hit out for Sam Dastyari’s TV pilot, Disgrace.

    The one-off pilot episode registered 229,000 viewers across capital cities nationally, slaughtered by the competition with 60 Minutes scoring 620,000 viewers in the same 8.30pm timeslot.
    Sam Dastyari’s news show, Disgrace, was slaughtered by 60 Minutes.

    Disgrace, fronted by Dastyari with former Olympic swimmer Stephanie Rice by his side, is one of several shows Channel 10 is billing as Pilot Week where the network tests new formats before deciding whether or not to commission a full series.

    Sorry ’bout that, Shanghai Sam. Real sorry.

  40. Makka

    If Dutton gets the numbers then the deputy leader will be Greg Hunt and he gets choice of portfolio. Abbott will be in Defence or Home Affairs.

    When is the spill, LNP Insider?

    Gawd, Hunt as deputy. What a turnout.

  41. Derp

    Tell ’em they’re dreaming.
    Majority of one = hamstrung.

    Libs are boned either way. That Dutton’s name is even being mentioned proves they have scraped way past the barrel bottom.

  42. pete m

    Abbott would be best in a portfolio of:

    Aboriginal, Veterans and Foreign Affairs.

    Julie Bishop would be best in a foreign posting to Chile.

  43. Baldrick

    Tim Wilson MP @TimWilsonMP
    Everybody in the government is focused on one thing. Lowering power prices.

    And printing gay colouring-in books for children, at taxpayers expense.
    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

  44. Makka

    No, that isn’t a problem. All sane adults should be more interested in everyday life than they are in politics.

    Keeping a very close eye on these grubs has now become a matter of our survival. The deficit, the Libs going Green/left, the size of Govt and our immigration catastrophe occurred because Australians were paying close attention? I think not.

  45. LNP insider

    The timing depends strategicly on the Victorian election. Is it better before or after? I say ASAP so its not in the news the whole time. Others might say a spill looks messy and has a negative impact so hold until later. I think it looks messy anyay so get it over with.

    Hunt is about giving the Wets something. Pyne and Bishop both need to go to tje backbench with Turnbull. Preferably also Fifield O’Dwyer Payne Birmingham Keenan as well. I think O’Dwyer might save to keep a power house woman on the front bench. Lousy reason but probably what they will do. So that leaves Hunt as the senior moderate.

    Hunt is acceptable to the right as at least he was loyal to Abbott and trustworthy unlike the above. Also he tends to execute his brief in portfolios.

  46. Cassie of Sydney

    “pete m
    #2794275, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:14 pm
    Abbott would be best in a portfolio of:

    Aboriginal, Veterans and Foreign Affairs.

    Julie Bishop would be best in a foreign posting to Chile.”

    No, not Chile…..it is too nice, I think Bitchop should be sent to Pakistan or any one of the other “stans”.

  47. LNP insider

    Apologies about typos, need to post quickly due to the circumstances at work this week.

  48. H B Bear

    Malotto, well Friday looks good, say 3pm?

    Well that would be convenient for the rest of us. Make sure you have something nice and cold in the fridge.

  49. cohenite

    If turdball goes there has to be an election because that bastard won’t sit on the back-bench he will move to the cross benches and the coalition will lose their one seat majority and the confidence of the house.

    Surely the dumb dickheads have figured that out. Lol.

  50. H B Bear

    Tim Wilson MP

    What an utter dud this IPA cast-off has proved to be. He is not Robinson Crusoe there though.

  51. stackja

    Couchsurfing’ tourists victimised
    Australian Associated Press
    11 minutes ago

    Two foreign women have allegedly been indecently assaulted after a man they met on popular app Couchsurfing took them to secluded places in Sydney.

    Police on Monday said the women, from Japan and Brazil, fled the man’s car after the attacks.

    The 30-year-old from Wolli Creek then allegedly led police on a pursuit early on Sunday morning before being arrested and charged with several offences including indecent assault and attempted sexual assault.

  52. A Lurker

    Is it too much to ask to have an experienced boots-on-the-ground soldier as Defense Minister – Andrew Hastie springs to mind.
    Communications should be someone who loathes the ABC and whose brief would be to close it and SBS down.
    Someone who is tight with the purse-strings should be Foreign Minister.

  53. stackja

    cohenite
    #2794285, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    Good outcome!

  54. Zyconoclast

    LNP insider
    #2794265, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    If Dutton gets the numbers then the deputy leader will be Greg Hunt and he gets choice of portfolio. Abbott will be in Defence or Home Affairs.

    But will they ditch all ruinable subsidies, NBN?
    Just to start.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Julie Bishop would be best in a foreign posting to Chile.

    I’d suggest the Sudan, Somalia or the Yemen. She could take Yassminn Axel Magpie with her, to tell the locals how Islam is “the most feminist of all religions.”

  56. Top Ender

    Ratings disgrace: Dastyari’s TV debut beaten by SBS movie repeat
    Is the former Labor politician’s TV career over before it began?

    By Michael Lallo

    The debut episode of Disgrace – hosted by former Labor senator Sam Dastyari – has been out-rated by a last-minute movie repeat on SBS.

    Disgrace is part of Channel Ten’s “pilot week”, in which the network screens single episodes of various light entertainment programs. Those that attract the best response from viewers – gauged by social media praise, votes on the TenPlay website and catch-up ratings – will be commissioned for a full season.

    Of course, live TV audiences will also be considered.

    And by that measure, Ten’s pilot week is off to a woeful start.

    Disgrace, which aired at 8.30pm on Sunday, averaged just 304,000 viewers (including regional audiences). On SBS, a hastily-arranged screening of The Blues Brothers – a tribute to the late Aretha Franklin – averaged 316,000. ABC’s Rake topped the time slot with 1.04 million, followed by Nine’s 60 Minutes on 910,000 and Seven’s Sunday Night averaging 877,000.

    It may appear that Dastyari’s fledgling panel show is doomed…

    Link

  57. Lysander

    2gb poll trending massively for abbott:

    https://www.2gb.com/poll-who-should-lead-the-liberal-party/

    vote early, vote often!

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “Catherine McGregor ” Spare me, that man has NO credibility.

  59. H B Bear

    I wonder if CBS realise what an utter dog they have been sold in Australia yet?

  60. Pete of Perth

    Are Pyne’s subs phucked when our dickhead Pm gets the arse? Please make it so.

  61. johanna

    Oh, and I’m out. Not reading and certainly not contributing since I’ve been shadowbanned.

    Such a sneaky and sleazy way to be forced to admit that you want to ban someone.

    No, no, I am not banning X.

    I am merely reminding X of the ‘appropriate’ ways to behave, as Libertarians are wont to do.

  62. H B Bear

    Mind you it is a pleasant change to be selling some local rubbish to an international company for a change. Usually the other way round when some Australian oligopoly has run out of rent seeking opportunities here and heads overseas.

  63. Snoopy

    Catherine McGregor reckons Abbott’s the one…..

    Say what you like but Abbott’s a man’s man.

  64. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tim Wilson MP @TimWilsonMP
    Everybody in the government is focused on one thing. Lowering power prices.

    The sheer nerve of this tax hoovering custom coloring book having h$mo.
    Outrageous.

  65. Speedbox

    Call me a pessimist but I don’t think a spill against Mal is going to happen. Too many of the individual Libs have too much to lose. If Mal has a dummy spit (all but certain), he could well announce his immediate retirement forcing a by-election (in fact, i’ll wager already quietly/privately threatened). It is not certain the seat will be retained by the Libs leading to a minority government. We all know how well those usually work out.

    So, from an individual Libs perspective, if he takes action and supports a spill, that will probably induce the fall of the government. If he/she is in a marginal seat (anything under 5%) then they will lose their seat as well. If that happens, there is the personal loss of income, superannuation, office perks, status etc to be considered. After all, if your going over a cliff, why run towards it?

    No, pure self interest comes into play and I can’t see too many stepping forward with an action that will probably cut their financial throats as well. Best for the country? F*ck that – this is my income where talking about.

    Having a majority of 1 in the HoR is probably Mal’s greatest asset.

  66. Empire 5:5

    Speedbox
    #2794247, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    ______
    Ultimately, the pragmatic side of my brain took over. Still, I thoroughly enjoyed what little exposure I can claim. If only I had done it when I was younger….

    Have you considered this:
    https://www.raa.asn.au/

    I know a few old timer retired Boeing drivers who are going down this path once they lose their medical.

  67. Stimpson J. Cat

    Catherine McGregor

    That Muppet makes Lesbians look sane.

  68. Leigh Lowe

    cohenite

    #2794285, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    If turdball goes there has to be an election because that bastard won’t sit on the back-bench he will move to the cross benches and the coalition will lose their one seat majority and the confidence of the house.

    Surely the dumb dickheads have figured that out. Lol.

    Let the world see what a vindictive prick he is, along with the rest of the Photios Phag Phaction.

  69. Boambee John

    Top Ender
    #2794259, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:57 pm
    Pyne in a fix?

    Pyne in a box more like it.

    Pine box?

    There was a British paratroop officer in Normandy during WW II who rejoiced in the name Lieutenant Colonel Pine-Coffin.

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There was a British paratroop officer in Normandy during WW II who rejoiced in the name Lieutenant Colonel Pine-Coffin.

    Known as “Wooden Box” to his troops.

  71. Makka

    If there is a spill and Dutton becomes the Big Banana, the first public statement he has to make is outlining clear policies for ; lowering energy prices by 50% with coal as base load, pulling out of the Paris accord, setting a lowered income tax target over the next 3 years and an immediate 75% reduction in migration numbers.

  72. Baldrick

    vote early, vote often!

    Voting for a leader of the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party is deciding whether you’d like kidney or liver cancer.

  73. cohenite

    Tim Wilson MP @TimWilsonMP
    Everybody in the government is focused on one thing. Lowering power prices.

    What a lying prick.

  74. Eyrie

    Empire, the RAAus is just a CASA subcontractor. Just as bad although some small regulatory imposts are, for the time being, a little easier. Australian aviation regulation at the low end makes clusterfucks, goatscrews and SNAFUs look sane and organised.

  75. Boambee John

    cohenite
    #2794285, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm
    If turdball goes there has to be an election because that bastard won’t sit on the back-bench he will move to the cross benches and the coalition will lose their one seat majority and the confidence of the house.

    Turnbull on the cross benches will support his party loyally on matters of confidence and the budget.

    The ALP, that is. The party dear to his heart.

  76. Lysander

    Voting for a leader of the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party is deciding whether you’d like kidney or liver cancer.

    Kidney cancer thanks.

  77. JC

    Great update , insider. Keep’em coming.

    Hunt has always been capable and really on top of his portfolio.

  78. Confused Old Misfit

    Speedbox
    #2794247, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    ______
    Ultimately, the pragmatic side of my brain took over. Still, I thoroughly enjoyed what little exposure I can claim. If only I had done it when I was younger….

    I had a brief stint trying Jabirus but the expense was not to be tolerated! I now spend too many hours on line flight simming.

  79. Speedbox

    Empire 5.5

    Thanks for that. Very kind of you. I will investigate further.

  80. JC

    He may be capable, but Dutton sounds and looks a little retarded.

  81. Eyrie

    So you can lose your medical, fly RAAus (need to hold a private car licence without medical exclusions) and your under 600Kg aircraft is considered OK to fall on somebody while a 700 Kg aircraft needs a pilot with a CASA Class 2 medical. Just one of the many anomalies in the law.
    A couple of years ago the Brits did a risk analysis and decided all you needed was the private car driver’s licence for both. That is in the UK with far higher concentration of innocents on the ground and in the air.
    Small aircraft are an excellent way of getting around this country’s long distances and goat tracks for roads. We have generally good flying weather and a lack of geographical barriers once you are inland of the coastal ranges. CASA has brought what should be a thriving industry to its knees. There is now a pilot shortage for airlines. Of course. No kid in his or her right mind would want to get into a business governed by capricious regulation and an incompetent vicious regulator who has piled ever more onerous and expensive requirements on it.

  82. Empire 5:5

    Eyrie
    #2794318, posted on August 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm
    Empire, the RAAus is just a CASA subcontractor. Just as bad although some small regulatory imposts are, for the time being, a little easier. Australian aviation regulation at the low end makes clusterfucks, goatscrews and SNAFUs look sane and organised.

    Agreed, but it’s still a cheaper/ easier option that will suit some.

    DCA/DOT/DOA/CASA fucking freedom since the promulgation of the Air Navigation Act.

  83. struth

    He may be capable, but Dutton sounds and looks a little retarded.

    He will be the first Potato head PM.

  84. Makka

    He will be the first Potato head PM.

    Dutton’s seat is marginal, a few %. How can the Libs risk a Dutton PMship? Is he just a proxy, for Abbott?

  85. Lysander

    Paul Fletcher MHR has a margin of 24% so he’ll be the last man standing if Malcolm goes to the election.

  86. H B Bear

    He may be capable, but Dutton sounds and looks a little retarded.

    That has never been an issue in Australia. Look at Dave Hughes.

    Dutton isn’t the right guy but at the moment he is the only guy.

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pirates ‘raiding war graves’ of World War II shipwrecks for scrap

    By Lucy Fisher
    The Times
    0 minutes ago August 20, 2018
    No Comments

    The British government is investigating claims that Royal Navy battleships designated as war graves are being looted for scrap.

    Gavin Williamson, the UK Defence Secretary, said he was “very concerned” that wrecks in Asia which were the final resting place of hundreds of sailors and civilians had allegedly been looted.

    They include four ships lying off Malaysia and Indonesia. It comes after reports that six further wrecks, including the battleship HMS Prince of Wales and battlecruiser HMS Repulse, have been damaged by salvage teams

    Mr Williamson said that the government condemned unauthorised disturbance of any wreck containing remains.

    From the Oz.

  88. struth

    Environmental policy is not driven by tree-hugging activists, earnest liberal bloggers, or ecologically minded citizens. Instead, it flows from the lobbyists and executives of well-connected multinational corporations and built-for-subsidy startups that see profit in the loan guarantees, handouts, mandates, and tax credits Congress creates in the name of saving the planet.

    Beautifully said, that man.

  89. Lysander

    2GB vote update (3,500 votes counted):
    Mao – 5%;
    Dutts – 32%
    Skeletor: 2%;
    Tone: 60%;
    ScamMo: 1%

  90. Lysander

    Breaking News (seriously breaking): Dutton could be forced to leave the Parliament after a review of his pecuniary interests has revealed a “Constitutional matter.” Kieran Gilbert has the story.

  91. cohenite

    Really, there is none except Abbott, flawed as he is. I want him to win so this time he can deck that smug creep mark riley.

  92. Top Ender

    Had a bit to do with shipwreck protection over the years.

    Almost impossible to protect significant wrecks. GPS means they are easier to pass around the locations; you need a permanent presence over the top of the site, and a means of responding once the salvage team turns up.

    The main protection is depth. Once past 300 feet the wrecks are much more difficult to get to.

  93. Empire 5:5

    So you can lose your medical, fly RAAus (need to hold a private car licence without medical exclusions) and your under 600Kg aircraft is considered OK to fall on somebody while a 700 Kg aircraft needs a pilot with a CASA Class 2 medical.

    The 6ookg limit is totally retarded. I understand the FAA is reviewing the 1320lb sport limit.

    I feel more confident flying a C150 than a Jabiru. There is no valid reason why a light two seat CAR3/FAR23 design should be excluded. My understanding is self interested local lobbyists (RAAus manufacturers/ Part 61 schools) killed any hope of these designs making the cut.

  94. Geriatric Mayfly

    All this leadership talk, even from learnéd Cats, has me befuddled. Has the ABC made it crystal clear yet, what is the correct thinking on this matter of national importance?

  95. Dutton as leader is funny enough, but Hunt as deputy? Hahahahaha!

  96. Makka

    Really, there is none except Abbott, flawed as he is.

    Yep. It’s now a furniture operation. Blind Freddy can see the potentially Best PM Evah is gorn.

  97. Myrddin Seren

    Ubique

    Senator Jim Molan now asking questions that aren’t ever supposed to be asked:

    “If the media reports are to be trusted, the changes that are being mooted don’t go to the concerns that I have, and the concerns that I still have are whether our energy policy is necessary, whether it will achieve any effect on climate, and whether the cost will be worth it.”

    I voted expressly for Jim Molan and am a bit dismayed to see where we are at and how he can be pondering this issue even now.

    Given that he owes me one vote – I have emailed my unsolicited thoughts on the matter to his office , and even suggested he put up a Guest Post here if he wants a crowd-sourced contribution on the analysis of these questions. ( Let us not hold our breath ).

    I would not waste the electrons on an email to my local member, who is a rolled-gold Turnbull spear carrier.

  98. Dr Faustus

    From Jennifer Westacott:

    “We support lower prices but this will not be achieved by ad hoc and extreme intervention in the electricity market which brings new risks, unintended consequences and has never worked before,” she said in a statement.

    Well, Smartest Man in the Room, fuck me, there’s an unintended consequence.

  99. old bloke

    Bruce in WA
    #2794232, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Twice as big and twice as thick.

    That reminds me of a story I heard on Saturday, I can’t account for its veracity.

    A small-handed chap saw a magazine advertisement for a penis enlargement kit. He completed the order form, attached his cheque for $40, and posted his order.

    A week later a parcel arrived in the post, which he eagerly opened, only to find a magnifying glass and a small note.

    Furious at having been conned, he picked up the small note hoping to find the supplier’s phone number to give them a serve, but there wasn’t any contact information provided. The note simply read:

    “SAFETY WARNING”

    “Do not use your penis enlargement device in direct sunshine.”

  100. Habib

    Hunt with a capital C. And O’Dwyer is “a powerhouse”? Wouldn’t voom if you put 4 million volts through it.

  101. Old School Conservative

    Abbott Derangement Syndrome is alive and well at the MSN news page.
    Publishing a Canberra Times article by Catherine McGregor headed” ‘The obvious choice’: Tony Abbott is the Coalition’s only hope”, they make their abhorrence clear at the top of the page with:

    Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not represent the views of MSN or Microsoft.

  102. Gavin R Putland

    Re Lysander at #2794341:

    According to this story at news.com.au, Dutton voted for a law that cleared the way for Commonwealth funding of childcare centres in which he has an interest.

    Meanwhile, if you’re a cop, or a teacher in a state school, or a nurse in a public hospital, you have to resign before you can stand for Parliament.

    If Dutton’s position is legal, the system is more rigged than I thought.

  103. .

    Myth about online dating and dating agencies (even nightclubs) busted:

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/dating/woman-successfully-sues-uk-dating-agency-after-it-failed-to-find-her-love/news-story/a4b0d038c388d02a9cb4ecb54d25c635

    But despite having more than 7000 members, only 100 of them were men actively looking for love.

    Typically the myth is that men outnumber women (and the women are of a higher “quality”/value) and they can charge men for “network access”.

  104. Lysander

    Thanks Gav; lots of fake news going on! 🙂

  105. Hunt executes his portfolio like an ISIS terrorist, LOL.

  106. .

    And O’Dwyer is “a powerhouse”?

    Sure she is. Low energy, of course.

  107. H B Bear

    Senator Jim Molan now asking questions that aren’t ever supposed to be asked:

    Better late than never I guess.

  108. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Woolworths profit jumps, but supermarket warns bag ban is now hurting sales
    but think of the dolphins!
    —-
    The carpark entrance nearest to the local woolies normally full of woolies trolleys is now full of coles trolleys from the other end of the mall.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    Tim Wilson MP @TimWilsonMP
    Everybody in the government is focused on one thing. Lowering power prices.

    So why all the talk about renewballs and Paris accord then fuckwit?
    If you were focussed on prices only you would be beatimg the living suitcase out of AGL and fast-tracking coal power generators.
    Fuck off idiot.

  110. candy

    I still think Dutton and Abbott have been having been stirring up Malcolm Turnbull for fun because he took his NEG to Labor for approval first like the traitor he is. But most of the LNP are behind Turnbull. He is the media PM. Leigh Sales, Waleed Aly, Paul Kelly, Mark Kenny – all the bigwigs love him. He is treated most kindly and respectfully by the media.
    The LNP won’t want to give that up – not just yet?

    Unless the polls took a steep turn down a month or before the election and then they would panic.

  111. Habib

    Most of the light sports coming out of places like the Czech Republic make Cessnas and Pipers look like they’ve been retrieved from a clearout sale at Escadrille de La Fayette. They come up under the MTOW because they’re built from composites, often have retractable cart and up to 6cyl turbo Rotax power. The performance and endurance is amazing, when I move onto enough dirt to run a strip I’m bringing one out.
    Mind you, the Feisler Storch replicas being built near Newcastle are a hoot, bugger building a strip. Almost rotorwing capability.

  112. Spider

    Got to love the Get Up lady on The Drum discussing polling Australians attitudes about refugees.

    So certain is she that she knows the outcome before they are even polled.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    Lysander

    #2794341, posted on August 20, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    Breaking News (seriously breaking): Dutton could be forced to leave the Parliament after a review of his pecuniary interests has revealed a “Constitutional matter.” Kieran Gilbert has the story.

    I call bullshit.
    Waffleworth’s leakers making shit up.

  114. Dr Fred Lenin

    Turnbulls behaviour is ingrained in his psyche ,vacillating ,opportunistic and left wing . It’s no wonder Packer gave him the flick after he lost an unloveable case with his smartass behaviour in court that earned hin admonishment by the judge and a threat to put him before the law council. He took the cowards way out ,like giliard he let his licence to practise lapse .( amazing coincidence that, a sl]ilvertail from the North Shore ,and a housing commission slag from Adelaide ). Then being used by the financial bandits from New York ,with his close mate Whitlams son ,again the smartass clicked in and he got involved with the thief Adler ,a bigger crook than Richo and the lamington Rivkin , Down the tube again . Then his joining the Libs after being knocked back by the union mafia party three times ,and the miserable republic fiasco .
    What a life of acheivement ? Get him out! Let him go to the Caymans to enjoy the climate scam money he made ,the country will be a better place for his absence ,tax dodging ,incompetent lawtradespersons person.

    smartass New York bankers

  115. calli

    And O’Dwyer is “a powerhouse”?

    Birdmincer.

  116. egg_

    Waffleworth’s leakers making shit up.

    If so, beyond foul.
    There goes any hope of no electoral routing.

  117. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Mayor of Chicago states the obvious and attracts hostile fire. He should know that the days of right and wrong have long since passed. Dismissed as ‘constructs’ or ‘shifting narratives’ by those most up-to-date in these matters. And he may, however obliquely, be targeting a treasured minority, for which only damnation is prescribed.

    This may not be politically correct,” he said, “but I know the power of what faith and family can do. … Our kids need that structure. … I am asking … that we also don’t shy away from a full discussion about the importance of family and faith helping to develop and nurture character, self-respect, a value system and a moral compass that allows kids to know good from bad and right from wrong.”
    He added: “If we’re going to solve this … we’ve got to have a real discussion. … Parts of the conversation cannot be off-limits because it’s not politically comfortable. … We are going to discuss issues that have been taboo in years past because they are part of the solution. … We also have a responsibility to help nurture character. It plays a role. Our kids need that moral structure in their lives. And we cannot be scared to have this conversation.”
    Emanuel also raised hackles by tackling the idea of a “moral community.”

  118. egg_

    Tim Wilson MP @TimWilsonMP
    Everybody in the government is focused on one thing. Lowering power prices.

    After you fvcked the Grid?

  119. None

    Abbott will be unable to stare down the Gaystapo in Defence. Greg Hunt as Deputy Leader -useless creatures as they are- is bad news – because he might get leadership pretensions in future he’s a wet as they come. God help us if he wants Treasury.
    I was about ready to murder Molan when he said he’d support the NEG ( relax that’s metaphorical). I can only hope he’s part of the Cabal of conservative playing a cagey game progressively applying the pincer but on the other hand Molan has an ego the size of a barn. He really does think he knows it all.

  120. Baldrick

    ABC The Drum ✔ @ABCthedrum
    “When people say we want Dutton in power, what they’re saying in reality is we want to have a leadership in this country that is prepared to explode division, and incite hatred and fear across racial lines in this country.” Shen Narayanasamy

    Says the woman who’s prepared to explode division and incite hatred and fear across racial lines in this country.

  121. Anthony

    Do I have an indirect pecuniary interest if the policies I support result in my election and subsequent translation to a cabinet post?

  122. None

    I kinda hope Waffleworth’s leakers are making s*** up about Dutton because they will just deliver the leadership to Tony Abbott. That f****** useless May perpetually kick own goals.
    I think at this point I just want Tony Abbott to be p.m. again just to watch Malcolm choke and Miranda Devine in a postmenopausal hissy fit.

  123. Snoopy

    For some reason this is not behind the SMH firewall.

    A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton said: “Mr Dutton’s legal advice clearly states there is no breach of Section 44.”

    Mr Dutton’s register of financial interests shows he is a beneficiary of the RHT Family Trust, alongside his wife. The trust owns his wife’s company, RHT Investments, which runs two childcare centres in Brisbane: Bald Hills and Camelia Avenue.

  124. Makka

    The Mayor of Chicago states the obvious and attracts hostile fire.

    I note Emmanuel’s potential “solution” is years, generations away, while people are slaughtered on Chicago’s streets daily. He needs to focus on the immediate measures.

  125. Gavin R Putland

    Lysander and Leigh Lowe: “And the High Court will so hold.”

  126. None

    Baldrick

    #2794377, posted on August 20, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    On the other hand Dutton as p.m. could be a good thing and even more entertaining.

  127. egg_

    Shen Narayanasamy

    A household name.

  128. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shen Narayanasamy is GetUp!’s Human Rights Campaign Director. She founded the No Business in Abuse project, targeting corporate involvement in offshore detention of asylum seekers, and led #LetThemStay, which prevented the deportation of hundreds of asylum seekers to Nauru.

    Recently, she led GetUp’s response to the Federal Government’s attempts to change the Racial Discrimination Act, and ongoing attempts to change citizenship requirements. Shen’s background is as a human rights lawyer and advocate, working in Australia and across the Asia Pacific on issues of economic justice and land rights.

    This Shen Narayanasamy, Baldrick?

  129. .

    Mr Dutton’s register of financial interests shows he is a beneficiary of the RHT Family Trust, alongside his wife. The trust owns his wife’s company, RHT Investments, which runs two childcare centres in Brisbane: Bald Hills and Camelia Avenue.

    That is pretty broad. The Federal government legislates for everything, the rule never intended to prevent MPs having any private business interests.

  130. Atoms for Peace

    The Liberals don’t even have the option of leaving Lord Waffles in his office with a revolver and one bullet, as he’d only shoot himself in the foot with that.

  131. Snoopy

    Since July 2, the centres have been receiving direct financial subsidies from the Commonwealth government, according to the Network 10 report. The trust of which Mr Dutton is a beneficiary profits from the childcare centres, giving rise to a potential breach of section 44.

  132. Snoopy

    You didn’t read the link did you?

  133. egg_

    Shen Narayanasamy is GetUp!’s Human Rights Campaign Director. She founded the No Business in Abuse project, targeting corporate involvement in offshore detention of asylum seekers, and led #LetThemStay, which prevented the deportation of hundreds of asylum seekers to Nauru.

    Shen #Slartiboatfast?

  134. None

    That Muppet makes Lesbians look sane.

    Steady, Stimp.

  135. max

    You can bet that if Abbott gets back he will retain Bishop and the rest in the interests of ‘healing the party’.

    Can someone grab him by those big ears and shake a bit of sense into that skull.

    His policy instincts are good and he should just be a bull in a china shop. It’s what the country needs.

  136. Nick

    Strange that such an allegation against Dutton would be released today. I wonder who would be involved. Oh hang on..

  137. Nick

    Has the media asked Lucy what she thinks ?

  138. Elle

    Candy, Turnbull is loved by the pathetic leftist media – the likes of Waleed Aly – because he kowtows to Waleed’s people. Turnbull kneels and touches the ground with his forehead in submission of their Allah.  

    https://goo.gl/images/Gc1yuu

  139. .

    Nah, I did Snoop. After you clipped me over the ears.

    Like the professors say, it is borderline.

    Actually given how Bob Day was boned, he probably will be.

  140. Speedbox:

    Australia is certainly in no condition for another substantial international financial crisis. (We’ve done the pink bats and the $900 cheques – solar panels for everyone?) A sudden upward jolt to international cash rates of say, a modest 1%, would cause significant issues to our domestic mortgage loan portfolio. A jolt of 2% would cause havoc.

    I know we stress test our banks, but has anyone done a 7% stress test on our economy?

  141. Snoopy

    The issue is whether the trust structure firewalls Dutton from s.44 as his legal advice apparently confirms.

    Someone’s in for some embarrassment if the advice is found to be wrong.

  142. Makka

    The LNP won’t want to give that up – not just yet?

    Candy, the media don’t want to give up Turdball. The base want Abbott back as PM, moreso than Dutton. I think Turdball has the LNP snookered. To get rid of Turdball and bring down the LNP, it will have to be the electorate to do the job.

  143. egg_

    Turnbull is loved by the pathetic leftist media – the likes of Waleed Aly – because he kowtows to Waleed’s people. Turnbull kneels and touches the foreskin in submission of their Allah.

    FTFY.

  144. .

    I thought I implied it would blow up on many more MPs Snoopy. So if you say Turnbull too, who is the leaker!?

  145. Elle

    Egg! He has foreskin? Assumed he wasn’t kosher.

  146. Delta A

    Adelaide proves again that it is a pathetic backwater.

    With all the drama in Canberra today, potentially affecting the entire nation, SA Nein’s lead story is a football club ‘scandal’.

  147. None

    Fraser Anning made Mark Riley look like a dick head. This is the first time I’ve had a close look at this guy and yeah he’s calm, he takes over b*******, he’s OK.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/if-anning-is-evil-why-did-riley-to-fail-to-nail-him/news-story/315a8b4e6c6a9a09c0921846adca6182

  148. Roger

    There is something to holistic management

    I reckon so, and more farmers are adopting it too.

  149. Snoopy

    Dutton has worked very hard in Dickson and it’s his personal following which allows him to hold the seat. If he gets the arse, the seat will almost certainly change to Labor.

  150. Baldrick

    That’s the one Zulu.

  151. cohenite

    Just looked at some graphs comparing UAH and BoM mean temperature anomalies for Australia since 1979 for April – July. BoM is consistently hotter. Strange innit?

  152. Snoopy

    So if you say Turnbull too, who is the leaker!?

    Did I? Labor could be the source. Can you imagine a more perfect time for a general election from the ALP’s viewpoint?

  153. Exit Stage Right

    Oh Dr Fred you put it so eloquently.
    Malignant Mal must go-I really don’t give a shit who replaces him. He is batting for the wrong side and always has with Lucinda feeding him the green policies he must implement. He is a treasonous, traitorous prick and always has been. Bye Mal., you won’t be missed despite being a Potentially Great PM.

  154. Snoopy

    BoM is consistently hotter. Strange innit?

    No.

  155. .

    It could be a whole heap of people Snoopy. Taking out two PMs (current and potential one) and taking back Dickson would be a high-value result for the ALP though.

    They’ll also (easily) get the Senate on 2PP. All they’ve got to do to get the GRN support if needed at all, is lean left more.

  156. Baldrick

    Ex-IPA chief stands firmly behind Malcolm, while he has the numbers …

    ABC Melbourne ✔ @abcmelbourne
    “I’m not trying to kid your listeners by pretending otherwise”: Tim Wilson says while some Liberals may be pushing leadership change, he believes @TurnbullMalcolm has the numbers

  157. Gary

    Speedbox
    #2794247, posted on August 20, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    I did a few Hrs PPL when I was 15 until circumstances changed now I just pretend. Not the real thing but a lot cheaper and I can have a drink mid flight.
    Not my video:

  158. None

    Tim Wilson was not an IPA chief. I happened to run into Roskam the day he announced he was going to the ahrc and I know that they were very much betrayed by him. Let me put something else to you. No gay conservative ir Liberal is trustworthy: no lesbian conservative or Liberal is trustworthy. I had warned and warned her about Tim Wilson not just after his betrayal of the IPA that also has a free and Commissioner. One of his first points of duty was to go visit gay and lesbian clubs and post pictures on his Twitter feed. So much for freedom. No one can remember him ever speaking up for free speech while he was in the ahrc . He is best renembered for giving one of the most half-hearted and sophistic defences for religious Freedom which actually was a veiled statement demanding that religion be subservient to gay rights and of course we saw how he voted with Malcolm, how he behaved during the same sex debate etc etc. All gay Liberals are not to be trusted and given gays arw over represented in the Liberal Party that means a fair slab of the Liberal Party is untrustworthy.

  159. None

    With all the drama in Canberra today, potentially affecting the entire nation, SA Nein’s lead story is a football club ‘scandal’.

    it would take a major Global catastrophe to get football off the front pages in South Australia- you should know that.

  160. calli

    The worst thing Abbott could do is take over the leadership of this hollowed out shell of a government merely to “save the furniture”. That aspect will be lost to history, while the creature could say “but I didn’t lose, Abbott did”.

    Let the rotter ride the party to the bottom and take the rest with him.

    Australia will remember who delivered them the horrors of Shorten on the treasury bench. Like McMahon before him, this current Lord Wentworth will cop the full blame.

  161. calli

    McMahon lost Lowe in ‘72. A pity Wentworth is safe. It would make for a delectable symmetry.

  162. Cassie of Sydney

    “Elle
    #2794397, posted on August 20, 2018 at 6:22 pm
    Candy, Turnbull is loved by the pathetic leftist media – the likes of Waleed Aly – because he kowtows to Waleed’s people. Turnbull kneels and touches the ground with his forehead in submission of their Allah.

    https://goo.gl/images/Gc1yuu

    Oh my God….don’t remind me…..I was physically sick when I woke up and turned on my computer to read The Australian that morning two years ago and saw that photo of Malturd schmoozing to Islamic leftist scum…..Weed Ali and his vile shiksa wife and Yasmin Yabba Dabba Maggot. The next day, it was about a week or two before the election if I recall correctly, I got a phone call from the Liberal party asking if I would campaign for them in Wentworth. I was very rude when I told them to get lost.

  163. Farmer Gez

    BoM is consistently hotter. Strange innit?

    Bom reckons it’s going to rain 15-20 mm in Easter NSW starting Thursday.

    What are the chances three days out?
    3-1 or maybe 10-1. Never evens or odds on, because they don’t f$cking know.
    Remember the widespread inland flooding that was predicted for Victoria last December; it never happened.
    I wish them luck in NSW for rain anyway.

  164. Baldrick

    Tim Wilson was not an IPA chief.

    Tim Wilson was an IPA chief, he was a policy director of the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) for seven years before heading to the AHRC.

  165. mh

    I can’t see the gay wing of the Liberal Party jumping the fence now.

    And without the powerful pink vote I don’t think a leadership spill will happen.

  166. Found this at AoSHQ

    An example of when the local populace gets fed up with opressive & corrupt government..

    Interesting read.

    https://www.americanheritage.com/content/battle-athens

  167. None

    Everybody’s a policy director in the IPA, Bsldry.

  168. Elle

    Cassie, I live within the Wentworth electorate. Our paths may have crossed.

  169. None

    I will have to say that one of the most under respected and underestimated members of parliament is Senator Abetz. Unlike The Wishy Washy Catholics he never waivers in his support, and calls it as he sees it. He’s actually really good at explaining policies or politics in plain English for the electorate. I heard him on radio earlier today I can’t remember if it was a pre recorded interview and he was excellent – very clear, very down the line, about the NEG and what it cannot do.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australian man Stevan Utah granted refugee status in Canada

    8 minutes ago August 20, 2018

    An Australian man has reportedly been granted refugee status in Canada amid fears for his life after he infiltrated the Bandidos bikie gang.

    Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) granted Stevan Utah refugee status after hearing evidence about how he had acted as an undercover informant for the Australian Crime Commission (ACC) during an operation against bikie gangs in 2006, the ABC reported today.

    The decision by the IRB is considered highly unusual given Mr Utah comes from Australia, which while a democratic country has been found to be lacking when it came to protecting him.

    Mr Utah, a former soldier, fled Australia after his cover was blown and Bandidos members tried to kill him on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast.

    The IRB ruled that Mr Utah had presented “clear and convincing evidence” of the failure by Australian authorities to provide him with adequate protection from the Bandidos.

    “I do find that the claimant would more likely than not face a serious risk to his life, almost immediately on his return to Australia,” IRB member Jodie Schmalzbauer wrote in a judgment obtained by the I.

    Mr Utah said he was no longer an Australian.

    From the Oz. Nobody thinks a gang like the Bandidos would be capable of finding him in Canada?

  171. Infidel Tiger

    Section 44 continues to be the greatest piece of legislation ever drafted.

    In time no one will be eligible to sit in Parliament.

  172. egg_

    38 negative Newspolls on the trot, eh?

  173. egg_

    Teh Libs need a NTG – No Trumble Guarantee.

  174. Steve trickler

    Very clever.

    This bloke has nailed Shapiro’s voice.



  175. Gab

    More Malcolm Roberts
    Senator Anning sided with Greens & Labor to kill of debate about Pauline’s (Future Migration Level) Bill 2018 which would allow a Plebiscite on immigration at the next election

    The same Senator who last week argued for a plebiscite on immigration in his first speech. #GoFigure

  176. Empire 5:5

    From the Oz. Nobody thinks a gang like the Bandidos would be capable of finding him in Canada?

    Sure they can, but no local is going to travel and do the hit. They’d need to pay an affiliate. Is it worth it?

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Can the women please be civil and levelheaded on this thread thanks in advance.

    Will do 😘😘

    What on earth can you mean, Stimpy?
    I, for one, am always civil and levelheaded.
    Men are the hotheads around here.

    That said, this morning (it’s 11am here in the Arctic) the level in my head is feeling somewhat out of kilter and it is not just the motion of the ship as it leaves the open sea for the fjiorsds once more. We had a small party in our cabin last night, inviting our new dining companions in to share some of Hairy’s secret stash of hooch. They have turned out to be very agreeable companions, from the world of barristers and lawyers, not superannuated high school teachers as I had feared. It was rather like that scene from Yes Minister when the Cabinet were doing an overnighter on a train in our own little railway carriage cabin, as late arrivals squeezed the crowd further in. The party was enhanced because Hairy had found the government monopoly liquor store on his last ‘shore walk’, on which I did not accompany him, so my restraining advice was absent. Anyway, thanks be to the gods, we had a very jolly time of it until gone eleven last night.

    After that, Hairy and I joined with many others on a visit to a midnight concert at the Cathedral the the Arctic, in Tromso. This Cathedral is a beautiful new one, on the other side of the fjiord to the main part of Tromso, over a bridge reminiscent of the Hobart one, as indeed Tromso itself is reminiscent of Hobart in size and structure. This impressive white building stands out on its headland, visible as you enter Tromso and also seen from all aspects of the township. It is formed in an arch of huge concrete ribs, each rib neon-lit in the night as we approached, somewhat like the Sydney Opera House in its display, with the front arch being a complex stained glass composition of a modernist crucified Christ with the arms of the people upstretched towards him, beseeching and/or joyful.

    The interior is cooly pale, a white high arch lit with a glitter of hanging glass in two great chanceliers. We sat in open-style wooden carrels, a modernist take on pews, in light beechwood, behind the altar three large white concrete panels, contrasting then against the altar rails painted in bright pink, with the surrounding few chairs on the podium a clear lime green. At the rear of the Cathedral is a small area, still part of the arched structure, containing wonderful photographs of the Northern Lights, and a place for sitting and talking. Above at the rear is a large shining organ, a creature of steel, and a sort of minstrals’ gallery, from which place the concert started, behind us. A trumpet first, then a female soprano voice that rose above the heavy organ which had triumphally joined in the welcoming aria. Such a voice that throughout sustained every pure note, matched and equalled both trumpet and piano on even when on fortissimo, and sang simply alone with total simplicity, the human voice as instrument of perfection.

    The acoustics were sheerly amazing. No need for amplification for the over three hundred in the audience. The sound soared into baffles in the arches that acted to keep it pure, without reverberation, but carried along the length of the structure. We heard twelve pieces performed by three people: a female on trumpet, a female singer, and a male pianist on the majorly grand piano at the front. After the first welcome, an instrumental piece based on the Sami ‘yoik’ (a special sound), the soprano and organ came in with an Irish folk song (very classical), then the three performers processed down the aisle to a Wedding March, sung without any music by this superb soprano, taking then their places at the front for the rest of the performance, featuring pieces by Grieg, Sibelius, and some Norwegian arrangers of traditional lullabies and folk tunes. These three performers held us all in thrall as they worked in unison; the audience in unison in response.

    By convention there was no applause after each piece, but when the trumpeter took up a four foot long Norwegian birch trumpet, with no note holes at all, operated entirely by her hard-working mouth, she made it rise, fall, almost speak, a clarion of harmonics at the end, with such drama and sheer expertise that Hairy and some others down at the front (where he insisted we sit) called out their unstoppable Brava, Brava, for such a memorable exposition of excellence. After the last OT it was balm for my soul to see two women, the soprano displaying something essentially female, the trumpeter performing on an instrument banned for women in Norway in the nineteenth century, banned as inelegant for ladies, All three performers displayed such elan, such confidence, such musical skill and such integration of elements, that we were all bowled over. Absolutely bowled.

    High culture indeed, in the Cathedral of the Arctic. Norway’s best on display.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sure they can, but no local is going to travel and do the hit. They’d need to pay an affiliate. Is it worth it?

    Send a powerful message to anyone who thought of informing on the gangs. Going to Canada won’t save you, we can find you.

  179. Cactus

    I’m with Zulu. The economics of running an outlaw business demands no snitch can ever go unpunished. The cost of not doing so is too high.

    I’m of course not supporting thi practise, just an observation.

  180. Confused Old Misfit

    Bandidos
    It’s considered world’s second-most powerful criminal biker gang, with more than 2,000 members in 14 countries, according to NGIC’s 2009 report, which describes the Bandidos as a “growing criminal threat.”

    The Bandidos was founded in the 1960s in Texas. The club’s old guard was said to be against its absorption of the Rock Machine’s Ontario branches for fear of igniting the same kind of war with the Hells Angels that gripped Quebec for much of the 1990s and left at least 150 people dead.

    In April 2006, eight people — all Bandidos members or associates — were found dead in a farmer’s field near the small town of Shedden, Ont., about 30 kilometres southwest of London. Police said the killings virtually wiped out the Toronto chapter of the Bandidos.

  181. Herodotus

    The Liberal Parliamentary Party created this situation, because they created the Turnbull government.
    Can they fix it?
    Is it a NEG with no legs? A scrambled NEG?

    Do we care any more?

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Forgot to mention that the encore, strongly demanded, was Amazing Grace, sung in English.
    Superb.

  183. JC

    Capri is just fucking awesome. That’s it. That’s my travelogue.

  184. Crossie

    Is it a NEG with no legs? A scrambled NEG?

    Do we care any more?

    No.

    No matter which of the bastards win either at the next election or when Liberals implode beforehand we the people will pay and pay.

  185. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Did you do the climb up to Tiberius’s villa, JC. Imagine being slave and having to cart him up.

  186. Boambee John

    dover_beach
    #2794438, posted on August 20, 2018 at 7:09 pm
    Looks like a grand jury is going to be empaneled in NY state with a similar ambit as that in Pennsylvania.

    Read somewhere, possibly linked via Instapundit, that in the Pennsylvania case, about 80 percent of the crimes were against males, about 80 percent of whom were post-pubescent.

    So exclusively male clergy chose to assault about 20 percent females (ages were not specified), about 16 percent pre-or pubescent males and some 65 percent post-pubescent males.

    Sounds more like a homosexual problem than a [email protected] one.

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Actually, I think that birch trumpet, quite narrow with a small rounded outlet, was almost as tall as me, so put it at five foot not four. An extraordinary instrument, and player.

    Both of the women performers I’d put in their early thirties. So assured. Great stuff.
    The male pianist/organist was completely their equal.
    All well-balanced and levelheaded. 😀

  188. zyconoclast

    Man is found guilty of s3xually abusing a sleeping 22-year-old woman on a Spirit Airlines flight as his wife sat next to him

    Victim said she awoke in her window seat to find Ramamoorthy shoving his fingers inside her pants
    She told authorities that her pants and blouse were also unbuttoned
    Ramamoorthy, who was also sitting next to his wife, initially told police he was in a ‘deep sleep’ and didn’t know where he had put his hands

  189. Baldrick

    Gab
    #2794457, posted on August 20, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    More Malcolm Roberts
    Senator Anning sided with Greens & Labor to kill of debate about Pauline’s (Future Migration Level) Bill 2018 which would allow a Plebiscite on immigration at the next election

    The same Senator who last week argued for a plebiscite on immigration in his first speech. #GoFigure

    This may have something to do with it Gab …

    Senator Fraser Anning @fraser_anning
    Today Pauline Hanson stopped my proposed amendment to her immigration plebiscite from even being debated, in another cheap One Nation hatchet job.
    My proposed amendment would allow the Australian people to decide not only the amount, but the type of people we let in.

  190. It’s without doubt a homosexual problem, BJ.

  191. Gab

    Heavens, Baldy. Which one of them is lying?

  192. Baldrick

    Looks like dogs fighting over the scraps Gab.

  193. zyconoclast

    The riot squad and a police helicopter were required when officers accompanied council workers on their visits to a Muslim imam’s property, a court has heard.

    Hawkesbury City Council has launched civil action against Dr Mustapha Kara-Ali and Diaa Kara-Ali over allegations land was allegedly cleared on the property without a permit.

    He [Imam] also claimed in council correspondence, tendered to court that his organisation was exempt from Australian law.

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So, another day gone by in Oz and Malodorous Mal is still seated on his throne of power.

    It’s like Waiting for Godot.
    When will it happen? When will he go?
    Who will come after him?
    I think Beckett just made them wait forever. Entropy.
    Certainly feels like it.

  195. .

    march
    #2794459, posted on August 20, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Love your work.

  196. Snoopy

    He [Imam] also claimed in council correspondence, tendered to court that his organisation was exempt from Australian law.

    If the property is exempt from Australian law then I presume it is also exempt from the protections afforded by Australian law.

  197. Makka

    Sure, Mal.

    Oz;

    Malcolm Turnbull has recommitted to holding a Liberal Party party room meeting tomorrow morning after outraged colleagues revealed it had been left off a message sent out by chief government whip Nola Marino.

    The Prime Minister last week told MPs that he would hold a separate partyroom meeting for Liberal MPs tomorrow after last week’s scheduled meeting was consumed with a briefing on the National Energy Guarantee.

    It was to be held at 9am tomorrow morning. But colleagues were livid after the meeting had been omitted, fearing Mr Turnbull — whose leadership has come under pressure — had reneged on a promise to MPs.

    The Australian contacted the Prime Minister’s Office this afternoon and was informed that the chief whip had accidentally left the Liberal Party room meeting off the agenda, and that a new message would be circulated.

    In the initial alert, Liberal MPs had been told there would only be a joint Coalition party room meeting tomorrow.

    In an updated memo sent to MPs, Ms Marino said “there will also be a Liberal Party Room meeting at 9am tomorrow as discussed at the Liberal Party Room last week”.

  198. Snoopy

    Regards
    ABC Library Sales

    How many bloody Sales are there at the ABC?

  199. Habib

    Local chapter would knock him on an exchange basis, also bad for business having an informant not only walk, but get dropped in their patch. Now being a grass apparently is grounds for refugee status- registered informants are usually criminals themselves, and while protected as much as possible are not in any way given a green light. They’re paid for their treachery. And would only be considered for protective custody if needed for a major prosecution, and their evidence would have to be shit hot.

  200. cohenite

    He [Imam] also claimed in council correspondence, tendered to court that his organisation was exempt from Australian law.

    If the property is exempt from Australian law then I presume it is also exempt from the protections afforded by Australian law.

    What protections.

    This prick has simply overstepped the mark, such as it is, because countless properties around the country have been converted into little muslim enclaves.

  201. dopey

    I am focused on the bloke in front of me lowering his trousers…or his electricity prices…or something

  202. Snoopy

    Indonesia celebrated its 73rd Independence anniversary on Friday, marking the end of colonial rule with parades and displays of the national flag.

    But over the weekend, footage of the children walking down a street during the celebrations wearing niqabs and carrying what appeared to be cardboard cut-outs of AK47 rifles went viral across the country.

    In a local press conference on Saturday, the head of the school Yuliana Tungga Dewi apologised for the incident, according to a report from CNN Indonesia.

    “We didn’t mean any harm, nor did we have the intention to instil any sense of aggression in the children,” she said.

    Ms Dewi said the children’s performance was not intended to show support for any radical religious groups, and was simply a show of faith.

    Uh huh.

  203. C.L.

    Sounds more like a homosexual problem than a [email protected] one.

    Genuine [email protected] properly so-called is a fairly rare crime, thank God.
    No, the abuse crisis in the Church was very much a homosexual crisis. Consider the times: a ‘spirit’ of liberation from supposedly stuffy strictures was loosed upon the Church from within during the 1960s, giving a generation of homosexual priests to understand (as it were) that there was nothing incompatible about Holy Orders and their version of sex. Socially, cruising adult males was out of the question but preying on boys was a doddle. And it was no biggie anyway because boys were all as curious, naughty and imperturbable as themselves. Right? The club mentality that ensued has now wrought more damage upon the Church than any historical event since the Reformation. What’s worse, it took ecclesiastical leftists so long to get anywhere near the Chair of St Peter that they are now – post-Benedict – moving the Church’s doctrines closer to the homosexual lobby – an astonishing, idiotic denialism that will cause even more damage.

  204. feelthebern

    I went to Geelong today for the first time ever.
    Nice town.

  205. Top Ender

    A conman posed as pilot and a Lord as he scammed girlfriends and a boss out of £7,000 in a case branded ‘the Dorset edition of Catch Me If You Can’.

    James Maycock told a girlfriend he was an airline pilot when in reality he had only taken a handful of lessons at Bournemouth Flying Club, which he failed to pay for.

    A court heard the Walter Mitty character booked a £9,000 helicopter ride to London to impress another girlfriend, which he also allegedly never paid for.

    The 31-year-old spent five years lying to girlfriends, including claiming he had inherited £1m from his father, and conning a number of businesses.

    He even claimed to be ‘Lord James Maycock’ to an electronics company in an attempt to get them to extend his credit limit so he could buy a £1,100 drone.

    However, the real crime is the red glasses, man-bun, and thongs.

  206. C.L.

    Retarded J-w killer and Democrat Party chieftain brings your laugh of the day …
    Al Sharpton Messes Up Spelling of Legendary Aretha Franklin Song: ‘R-E-S-P-I-C-T’.

  207. zyconoclast

    ‘My Little Pony’ Animator In Prison For Child Pr0n – Over 60,000 Images Found

    Tom Wysom, 55, of Ottawa, has been arrested for the possession and distribution of child [email protected] When Wysom was arrested, he was found to be in the possession of over 60,000 images deemed to be child [email protected], as well as at least 1,625 videos.

    Wysom told the court that he had been watching child pornography as an offshoot of his addiction to adult [email protected] His reasoning, as reported by the Ottawa Citizen, was that he had consumed so much “normal” [email protected] dating back to about a decade ago, that it no longer stimulated him, to the point that he had become desensitized to it and “needed something more.” He then went on to explain that it had been helping him deal with his clinical depression and other unspecified medical issues.

  208. C.L.

    Sharpton at 1:25 if you want to get straight to it.

  209. .

    That’s not a manbun, check your glasses.

  210. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2794495, posted on August 20, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    The Great Impostor – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Impostor
    The Great Impostor is a 1961 movie based on the true story of an impostor named Ferdinand Waldo Demara. The film is loosely based on Robert Crichton’s 1959 biography of the same name, it stars Tony Curtis in the title role, and was directed by Robert Mulligan.

  211. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2794498, posted on August 20, 2018 at 9:03 pm
    …clinical depression and other unspecified medical issues.

    Needs chemical help. Might have side-effects.

  212. Snoopy

    That’s not a manbun, check your glasses.

    Triggered. Why?

  213. .

    Been reading a little bit of pre-Islamic history of Arabia, interesting place, probably a lot better than the Islamic records make out. Quite frankly I think the Brits stuffed up not giving the occupied whole Arab world to the Hashemites and maybe Hejaz.

    Ancient Yemen is very interesting, particularly the ancient Gewish (and Ethiopian) kingdoms, but to travel is off limits. Oman seems very interesting as well from a historical perspective. It also seems to have an okayish standard of living.

    Why is Oman seemingly a decent place from a Western perspective?

    Interestingly, “the” Islamic history asserts that Arabia was lawless until Islam. The fact is it was ruled by several Gewish Kingdoms.

  214. .

    Triggered? Why?

    Because presbyopia stalks us all.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Gavin R Putland

    #2794382, posted on August 20, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    Lysander and Leigh Lowe: “And the High Court will so hold.”

    Hard to sack your dud Constitutional legal adviser when he is also your father-in-law.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    I went to Geelong today for the first time ever.
    Nice town.

    So.
    Where else yo bin?

  217. stackja

    Car ploughs into pedestrians in Spanish city of Zaragoza
    THREE people have been injured after a car mounted a footpath and ploughed into pedestrians in Spain just hours after an alleged terror attack by a knifeman near Barcelona.

    AFP, Staff writer

    THREE people have been injured after a car mounted a footpath and ploughed into pedestrians in the Spanish city of Zaragoza, it has been reported.

    The driver fled the scene, according to local media reports.

    The incident came just hours after Spanish police shot dead an Algerian man who tried to attack them with a knife at a police station while allegedly shouting “Allahu akbar”.

    The man entered a police station in Cornella, near Barcelona, just before 6am local time “to attack the officers” and was “shot down”, Catalonia regional police said on Twitter.

    “An investigation has been launched following the events that occurred this morning at our police station in Cornella in order to clarify the reasons for the attack,” a statement said.

  218. Old School Conservative

    Habib
    #2794489, posted on August 20, 2018 at 8:49 pm
    …… They’re paid for their treachery…..

    Harsh words indeed. Surely the dangerous job of bringing down drug runners, gun traffickers and murderers deserves more respect.

  219. feelthebern

    That Geelong foreshore is a decent place to have a feed.

  220. stackja

    Interestingly, “the” Islamic history asserts that Arabia was lawless until Islam. The fact is it was ruled by several Gewish Kingdoms.

    It was more healthy for several Gewish Kingdoms to convert to Islam. Others didn’t and had health problems.

  221. Natural Instinct

    Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó
    The Breitbart open question version, 2 July
    Fraser Anning should take some lessons.
    .
    And both are ghost-of-Christmas-past – “we will decide who comes to our country….” JH

  222. Habib

    OSC, most registered informants are either getting rid of opposition, been putting holes in their manners with their crew, or working to divert attention from their own activities. The rest are fringe dwellers of the mileau, too lazy to do their own blags and deals and making a quid out of shopping those who do. They are not honourable or decent people.

  223. Makka

    Why is Oman seemingly a decent place from a Western perspective?

    The SAS sorted it out. The rulers have a history of education in Britain, including Sandhurst.

    The landscapes in the south of KSA around Najran and bordering Yemen are truly spectacular. Biblical. Some very tough dudes in the tribal networks around the area. I don’t know about now but 20-30 years ago they were left pretty much alone by Riyadh , who were told to simply fk off. And they did.

  224. Snoopy

    Oops.

    The Saudi Kingdom’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) might not be willing to bankroll Tesla Inc.’s (TSLA) plans to go private after all.

    People familiar with the matter told Reuters on Sunday that the official sovereign wealth fund of the Saudi Arabian government is currently in talks to invest in Tesla rival Lucid Motors Inc. The revelation comes just weeks after Tesla CEO Elon Musk controversially tweeted that he was considering a $420 per share take-private deal after receiving assurances that PIF was eager to provide the necessary funding.

  225. Old School Conservative

    Habib, I have been getting my information from TV shows and news services, so perhaps my understanding lacks a touch of reality.

  226. cohenite

    Fraser Anning interviewed by that turd mark riley and asked about turdball:

    He’s an idiot.

    https://www.facebook.com/7NewsWideBay/videos/senator-fraser-annings-interview-with-mark-riley/403344450192088/

    Great interview.

  227. Snoopy

    The SAS sorted it out. The rulers have a history of education in Britain, including Sandhurst.

    Hardly anyone knows of the role the Brits had in putting down that Soviet-backed, Yemen-based insurgency during the early ’70’s.

  228. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hardly anyone knows of the role the Brits had in putting down that Soviet-backed, Yemen-based insurgency during the early ’70’s.

    That was a textbook example of a counter insurgency campaign.

  229. Bruce in WA

    The incident came just hours after Spanish police shot dead an Algerian man who tried to attack them with a knife at a police station while allegedly shouting “Allahu akbar”.

    The man entered a police station in Cornella, near Barcelona, just before 6am local time “to attack the officers” and was “shot down”, Catalonia regional police said on Twitter.

    As if reinforcement was needed — never take a knife to a gunfight!

  230. Frank

    after Spanish police shot dead an Algerian man

    Must be some confusion, the Spanish were meant to be safe after pulling out of Iraq (or was it Afghanistan) and Algerians are supposed to have it in for the French.

  231. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hardly anyone knows of the role the Brits had in putting down that Soviet-backed, Yemen-based insurgency during the early ’70’s.

    I don’t have a reference, but there was a Special Air Service Captain, one Mike Kealy – won a D.S.O. there and died from hypothermia in a training exercise in 1979?

  232. C.L.

    I flip on to Q&A for 30 seconds and there’s a crazed, bald Mohammedan threatening to kill everyone.
    Tony Jones then gave him the “opportunity” to clarify the remarks.

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