Monday Forum: August 20, 2018

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As if reinforcement was needed — never take a knife to a gunfight!

    That was the immortal line from Sean Connery in “The Untouchables.”

  2. Habib

    OSC, informants are a different critter to undercover operatives. The latter are admirable, sacrificing a great deal and putting themselves at great personal peril. I knew a few during my time in law enforcement, mad bastards who seemed to relish the challenge. The best informants I ever encountered were ones we’d just pinched, and they were quite happy to stick up some other arsehole if it might do them some good charge and bail-wise. Some of the most high profile crims in this country have been fizzes, Carl Williams, Neddy Smith, AlphonseGangitano, and many others- all very chatty when in custody, or under scrutiny.

  3. Snoopy

    Labalaba, aged 30, was shot dead whilst firing a 25-pounder gun at the attacking guerrilla forces. He displayed notable bravery by continuing to fire the 25 pounder single handed in spite of being seriously wounded when a bullet hit him on the jaw, after his Omani loader was seriously wounded early in the battle. Captain Mike Kealy and fellow troopers Tommy Tobin and Sekonaia Takavesi ran a gauntlet of enemy fire but arrived too late to save Labalaba.

  4. Bruce in WA

    I don’t have a reference, but there was a Special Air Service Captain, one Mike Kealy – won a D.S.O. there and died from hypothermia in a training exercise in 1979?

    Thinking of him reminded me of one “Mad Mike” Hoare. I was surprised to find the bugger’s still alive! He’s now 99 years old.

    Back in the 90s I briefly met and worked with a lady who was a “friend” of his. Interesting woman.

  5. Makka

    Bernardi is right. Only Abbott can save enough furniture to risk the bloodletting of a spill;

    Mr Bernardi told Miranda Live host Miranda Devine he thinks “Tony Abbott might have a role to play” if the PM loses the top job.

    “Whether that’s as a significant part of a Dutton-led cabinet or even maybe leading a charge to take the role from the Prime Minister, I think he could be a decisive player”, he said.

    “I have a personal view Tony Abbott is the only person that could actually bring the base fully back.”</blockquote>

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thinking of him reminded me of one “Mad Mike” Hoare. I was surprised to find the bugger’s still alive! He’s now 99 years old.

    He was technical adviser to the film “The Wild Geese.” Apparently, a couple of the actors had been mercenaries in Africa, and they put the producers in touch with Mike Hoare. One of the more interesting characters I ever knew had served in the Congo with Mike Hoare – “Oh, him. “Pray God daily” my hairy arse.” was his comment.

  7. Steve trickler

    Well, that was fun!

    Some imagery might rattle a few people.



  8. Bruce in WA

    It’s an interesting film … Ian Yule, who played Tosh Donaldson, had been a real mercenary in Africa in the 1960s and 1970s and had worked with Mike Hoare. When you watch him handling the firearms, his previous training shows.

    That’s him on the left.

  9. BrettW

    Zulu, yes the Mirbat Captain died during a training exercise in Wales a few years later.

    The movie and book The Killer Elite suggested he was murdered as part of a revenge hit paid for by a rich father of one of the rebels killed by the SAS. Not true but author, the adventurer and former SAS member Ffiennes, was asked to apologise by the Captains family. He was also blacklisted by SAS.

  10. Oh come on

    That mouthbreathing ABC moron Andrew Probyn included the following in his “analysis”:

    Some want Peter Dutton to take over, to sharpen the differentiation with the Labor Party and give the Liberal Party that distinctly conservative hue craved by the “base”, that thinning band of greying members.

    What a colossal fucktard Probyn is. The “base” is thinning to invisibility because of Malcolm. Ditch him for an actual conservative and it might just plump up a bit; ya never know.

    I still think the LP is FUBAR and we clearly must destroy the village in order to save it.

  11. Oh come on

    Mr Bernardi told Miranda Live host Miranda Devine he thinks “Tony Abbott might have a role to play” if the PM loses the top job.

    Methinks Bernardi is being mischievous. It’s very much in his interest for the LP to implode.

  12. cohenite

    Well, that was fun!

    Some imagery might rattle a few people.

    Looks like a video of the next coalition meeting.

  13. Makka

    It’s very much in his interest for the LP to implode.

    I would have thought Abbott becoming PM is not in the AC interest, given the AC numbers that may drift back to the Libs. If Abbott takes over again, it may keep the Libs on life support, sadly.

  14. Steve trickler

    Blevin’s using his editing skills with Metropolis to a fine form.



  15. Oh come on

    Abbott is not going to become PM again.

  16. Oh come on

    Probably never. And almost certainly never before at least one election is held.

  17. Habib

    Fucknuckle leftists like Analprobin’ think leftism is the belief system for the hep cat daddy-o yoof generation. Like it’s goof network, it’s most ardent advocates are approaching senility. Or at least the ones not croaked during a purge. In atavistic shitholes like here it has some younger followers, mostly females too fugly to get invited anywhere. On the rest of the planet it’s squaresville on steroids.

  18. Habib

    Yoof network. Autocorrect is the sweat dripping off Satan’s bottom.

  19. Oh come on

    I thought it was pretty funny (and accurate) when Wolfmother accused JJJ of being run by “left wing conservatives” – so true.

  20. Josh

    THE AFL has consulted TV presenter Waleed Aly as part of its investigation of the state of the game.

    A host of Channel 10’s The Project, Aly joins the company of former football greats and commentators on the game who have been sounded out about potential new rules.

    Those to have met league footy boss Steve Hocking and his team about the proposed changes include broadcaster Gerard Whateley, Brownlow medallist Gerard Healy, former Herald Sun football writer Mike Sheahan and AFL legend Malcolm Blight.

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When you watch him handling the firearms, his previous training shows.

    I haven’t watched war films since the days of the “Wild Geese”, a “Bridge Too Far” and the “Odd Angry Shot” for several reasons. The standard of weapon’s handling is atrocious, from my limited experience, I don’t think the theater sound system could cope with the sheer noise, and the language always seems rather stilted.

  22. mh

    What in God’s name makes an author of childrens’ fiction, JK Rowling, think that she is a political commentator?

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This ones for BrettW.

  24. None

    Huh? What the f*** does Waleed Aly know about football? What the f*** is wrong with the AFL – why are they consulting idiots like him over rule changes?

  25. Makka

    THE AFL has consulted TV presenter Waleed Aly as part of its investigation of the state of the game.

    Will they talk with any of the fans? Here is what I would ask them;

    On a scale of 1 -10 where 1 is “it’s wonderful” and 10 is ” it turns me completely off the game”, how would you rate the inclusion, diversity, indigenous and multi culti messages the AFL is constantly broadcasting at games, in clubs and through the media?

  26. Oh come on

    From CL’s link:

    According to the posting, this job is likely most suitable for those who are 45 years of age or older, and someone who is “responsible, reliable, honest, practically inclined – and really, with a heart of gold!”

    Hrm. Clemmy scores one out of six. I think. She is over 45, right?

  27. Makka

    WaPo, hoping for a recession to Get Trump!;

    But at the end of the day, what would make the biggest difference would be an economic downturn. President Richard M. Nixon might never have been impeached were it not for the “oil shock” of 1973 and the resulting recession. While Trump might not care what newspaper editorial boards or even retired CIA directors think of him, he should care that two-thirds of business economists in a recent survey predicted a recession by the end of 2020. A growing economy has been the only thing saving Trump from a knock-out. He will hit the canvas for good if a bear market enters the ring.

  28. jupes

    Fraser Anning interviewed by that turd mark riley and asked about turdball

    Anning was excellent in that interview.

    Trumpesque in the way that he confronted all of the turd’s ‘gotchas’ front on e.g. Riley: “So you are saying all Muslims should be treated as extremists?” Anning: “Exactly. They all read the same book” …

    Great stuff. All politicians should learn from that.

  29. jupes

    THE AFL has consulted TV presenter Waleed Aly as part of its investigation of the state of the game.

    Just like the Special Operations Commander asked a feminist academic to write a report on the SAS and Commandos.

    The fix is in.

  30. BrettW

    Zulu,
    Thanks.
    Had read about Ashers recreation of the B20 patrol but not seen the doco before. Still not seen the movie with Sean Bean either.

  31. JC

    Rones

    Don’t hand over the car to Rooster. Sure, he acknowledges you but he just doesn’t deserve it.

  32. JC

    Let me take over “fleet management”, Rones. Too many ingrelates are taking advantage.

  33. JC

    Over 10 threaters the average take was $12.60.

  34. C.L.

    Malcolm McGregor now says Abbott should return:

    Tony Abbott is the obvious choice to return to the leadership. In February 2017 I suggested to Abbott that Turnbull would implode on account of his total lack of political acumen. For his part I urged that he should emulate Paul Keating by forcing the party to come to him when it finally despaired of the Pretender. Far from being the monster caricatured by his detractors, Abbott is a vulnerable, passionate human being. He could not let his grievances go. His wounds were simply too deep and at times he was not the man I know he is capable of being. We clashed over marriage equality and I was disappointed at his flirtation with Pauline Hanson. But he is the only senior Liberal capable of stemming the defections among the party’s core constituency. He is the only proven election winner inside the Coalition.

    This comes after several parahraphs of McGregor blaming Trump for the problems in the LNP, rising to the hilarious, awareness-bereft criticism of the US President as “unstable” and a “narcissist.”
    —————–
    SMH.

  35. JC

    #metoo working out really well.

    At this rate. big fat Harvey will end up being the victim.

  36. None

    McGregor like all trannies and gays is only capable of writing a me centred article: I, I, I, I suggested, I did this, I was disappointed.

    Reading his s*** is like watching a human being disintegrate before your eyes. I sincerely believe the guys a danger to himself and should be under supervision.

  37. None

    One thing I liked about Anning is him telling off Riley that he’s dealt with some of the roughest bars in the country so it’s going to take more than a pants wetting journo to intimidate him.
    Handled that like a pro.

  38. None

    So I guess Kevin Spacey can now choose to openly live as a fail whale.

    How come he’s not facing charges?

  39. Cpt Seahawks

    I tell you, women are loud and proud and the soy boys support them, but try getting something done at a bank these days that is slightly unusual? Forget about it. A succession of female hand passes “I don’t know” followed by a well rehearsed “no we don’t do that” on hand pass five.
    Same thing at call centres. Round in circles between “tech support” and “customer care” scoff.
    Fn bullsh$t.
    Virtue signalling fake sisters are ruining things.

  40. None

    Methinks Bernardi is being mischievous. It’s very much in his interest for the LP to implode.

    You should consider that Bernardi perhaps didn’t just leave the Liberals because he was pissed off that that Bernardi may also be providing a holding ground for disaffected Liberals until such time as either AC or a rebuilt Liberal party emerges as a viable conservative Force.

  41. DrBeauGan

    Steve trickler
    #2794644, posted on August 20, 2018 at 10:46 pm
    Well, that was fun!

    Some imagery might rattle a few people.

    The identification of sex with sin and death is very German. And sick.

  42. JC

    Lazio football club sounds like it has funny fans

    They want to ban women at the stadium.

    A couple of sheilas on DW breathlessly reporting it, so I checked it out.

    https://www.google.it/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/lazio-ultras-want-to-ban-women-from-sacred-space-at-teams-rome-stadium-11476575

    Italy is growing on me.

    You can like the perfection of palm beach , Beverley Hills and grunge all at the same time.

  43. Nick

    former football greats and commentators on the game who have been sounded out about potential new rules.

    FFS, why not ask those who pay to watch the game ?

  44. None

    The Daily Telegraph is having way too much fun depicting Turnbull as ‘”frantic” and “begging” not to be dumped. They are determined to get a regime change.

  45. stackja

    None – Miranda blaming TA. Telegraph editorial mentions old television advertising about cheap electricity!

  46. None

    None – Miranda blaming TA. Telegraph editorial mentions old television advertising about cheap electricity!

    LOL Miranda is beyond menopausal crazy, has surpassed even the Cypriot peasant in her spite, and is now in the outer orbit of Abbott Derangement Syndrome. Soon, centrifugal forces will propel her into the dark yonder, earning her the correct epithet of “spacestation.”

  47. None

    After that superb electricity Dutton, Mark Knight comes up with another cracker. I may even begin to like him on a regular basis.
    Zanetti’s Frydenberg…a eunuch. LOL.
    And Pickering is probably the only person who can get away with a case for assisted dying.
    Thanks, Tom.

  48. None

    Interesting even Chris Kenny thinks Abbott is the natural choice but concedes,as does Abbott, that the party has moved on. But I wouldn’t count him out just yet. Dutton may not want to expend political capital on this tilt only to find himself opposition leader. And sorry Chris, Dutton is no conservative.

  49. John Comnenus

    Love that Mark Knight cartoon. Gr8 work as usual Tom

  50. None

    Sportsbet -Leader of the Federal Liberal Party on polling day of the next Federal Election :
    Turnbull 1.90
    Dutton 2.10
    Bishop 6.50
    Porter 8.50
    Abbott 9.00

    Bishop? Some punters are delusional.
    ScoMo at 18.00 and the rest (Mike Baird?!) out of contention.

  51. None

    I should add that Sportsbet also has Dutton as favourite (2.00) to be Leader of the Opposition next election.

  52. hzhousewife

    Italy is growing on me.

    You can like the perfection of palm beach , Beverley Hills and grunge all at the same time.

    Take care crossing bridges JC.

  53. None

    OMG Michael Kroger yesterday on Miranda’s show was praising Josh Frydenberg’s negotiated TEG because he needs everyone to sign onto it. DOES THE MORON EVEN ASK IF THAT STUPID POLICY IS NECESSARY?
    And then he goes on telling us Turnbull has done a fantastic job with the worst. senate. evah. And that he got so many things through the senate (note: Kroger thinks passing laws is a measure of success). And he is highly regarded and respected in Victoria blah blah blah. Bloody hell, the Liberals are totally stupid and totally out of touch.

  54. Tel

    The identification of sex with sin and death is very German. And sick.

    Central control of human reproduction delivers immense political power, and there’s a bunch of ways people go about imposing restrictions on each other. The church claimed the power over marriage and made it sinful to have sex outside marriage, thereby putting itself in the key position to decide reproductive rights.

    The UN had their Agenda 21 with Maurice Strong, Club of Rome, Earth Summit, crap crap crap which was designed to achieve the same outcome (control over reproduction) by alternative means (mostly controlling the supply of housing, but also energy, food and these days water too).

    It’s not irrational, it’s about some people having power over other people. That’s the unifying theme whereby it all makes sense.

  55. Tel

    Margaret Sanger’s birth control, eugenics, aborting black babies… another technique for some people to exert control over the reproduction of others (also a commie for what it’s worth).

  56. calli

    Habib
    #2794661, posted on August 20, 2018 at 11:16 pm
    Fucknuckle leftists like Analprobin’ think leftism is the belief system for the hep cat daddy-o yoof generation. Like it’s goof network, it’s most ardent advocates are approaching senility. Or at least the ones not croaked during a purge. In atavistic shitholes like here it has some younger followers, mostly females too fugly to get invited anywhere. On the rest of the planet it’s squaresville on steroids.
    Habib
    #2794662, posted on August 20, 2018 at 11:18 pm
    Yoof network. Autocorrect is the sweat dripping off Satan’s bottom.

    And that, dear friends, is why I hang out here.

    The finest writing you’ll ever see on the interwebs.

    😄

  57. calli

    Does Knight read the Cat? I’m sure someone mentioned new solar for old batts yesterday.

  58. None

    Well she may upset the first female Muslim MP. Note who is over represented in our parliament.

  59. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    from above link
    —–

    African National Congress spokesman Zizi Kodwa would not reveal details of the farms targeted and attempted to play down investor fears, saying the proposed seizures were “tied to addressing the injustices of the past”.

    “Over time I think the markets as well as investors will appreciate that what we are doing is creating policy certainty and creating the conditions for future investment,” he told City Press.

  60. 2dogs

    Dutch courts say Pastafarianism is not a religion, rule against colander headgear

    As evidence they are a religion, they could try redoing this experiment with Pastafarians. They could look at a greasy lasagne while being zapped.

  61. Elle

    Mark Knight today. Very good. Thanks Tom.

  62. cohenite

    Riley: “So you are saying all Muslims should be treated as extremists?” Anning: “Exactly. They all read the same book”

    Liberty quote and the perfect riposte to those self-congratulating quislings who intone at the first sign of muslim bashing that they’re not all the same.

  63. None

    The church claimed the power over marriage and made it sinful to have sex outside marriage, thereby putting itself in the key position to decide reproductive rights.

    The church never claimed power over marriage. it got into the marriage game rather late and did so reluctantly. It looked after widows and orphans and got tired of women being abandoned by husbands (and then claiming they were never married) or women seeking refuge for being forcibly married etc etc and people naturally turned to the bishop to arbitrate on marital affairs (and bishops were granted limited juridical authority by Roman authorities/emperors quite early, fourth or fifth century I think, don’t quote me on that bit) etc etc and so it was the church that started registering marriages, demanding witnesses, ages of consent, free consent etc etc. It’s quite a complex history and very much different in different regions where Christianity spread but to say it claimed power over marriage is quite wrong. Adultery has never been acceptable in nearly all societies.

  64. None

    Does Knight read the Cat? I’m sure someone mentioned new solar for old batts yesterday.

    Don’t know but yes someone did.

  65. Mater

    Does Knight read the Cat? I’m sure someone mentioned new solar for old batts yesterday.

    He could get a lot of good content from the Cat.
    Putting some of IT’s comments into a pictorial format may present an interesting challenge (especially for the editors/lawyers at the HS), but not insurmountable.

  66. Farmer Gez

    Does Knight read the Cat? I’m sure someone mentioned new solar for old batts yesterday.

    Sorry folks but it’s not a unique line of thought.
    ABC radio interviewed Dan Andrews yesterday and put the risk of dodgy operators to him.
    Dan had his rehearsed lines ready to go. Victorians will get “a power station on their roof”. So good he had to say twice and twice again.

  67. Empire 5:5

    Daily Mail lying j’ismist gets to taste his own medicine:

    Replying, Robinson said: “No, you’re a lying journalist. You’re a lying journalist with no conscience.”

    The journalist continues to insist he should not be ambushed in the same way as Robinson because he is “not high-profile”, but Robinson is unimpressed.

    “You are now mate, you are high-profile now… You’re going to be under the public eye for the hundreds of thousands of people who watch this, yeah, so is it going to be OK for me to come to your house, and your Mum’s house… I’ll do to you what you’ve done to me. Is that going to be fair?”

    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/20/watch-tommy-robinson-confronts-doorstepping-msm-journo-who-tracked-his-family-down-on-holiday/

  68. John Constantine

    When a bankrupt borrows money to buy tat he can’t afford, and both he and the lender know he will be back to borrow more money to pay the interest, there is a word for that.

    Australia has imported so many panels and windmills we we no longer have the industrial or economic capacity to make our own panels and windmills.

    Effectively Australia’s elites are entering long term loanshark contracts to borrow solar panels from the chicom peoples liberation army, knowing that the interest will have to compound.

    Bernanke claimed that printing and dropping money from helicopters could save the State.

    Australia’s elites are about to borrow panels from the PLA to drop from helicopters to save the State.

    What could possibly go wrong.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  69. Mater

    Shane Warne on the issue of Waleed Aly consulting to the AFL on rule changes.
    He hit this one out of the park.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1031546121506643968

    Shane Warne
    Shane Warne
    @ShaneWarne
    I love #AFL football like so many other people – please tell me this is fake news & that this arrogant cretan is in no way way involved on any level !!!

  70. None

    I could get to like Shane Warne.

  71. Roger

    this arrogant cretan

    Egyptian, Shane.

  72. Roger

    The church claimed the power over marriage and made it sinful to have sex outside marriage…

    Unhistorical tosh. A taboo in most cultures apart from the West since the 1960s.

  73. Tel

    The church never claimed power over marriage.

    Oh yeah? So it’s always been OK to just declare yourself married without any church involvement… that’s been the tradition has it? Hmmm… don’t think so.

  74. C.L.

    Laura Tingle: the entire nation supports The Neg and higher electricity prices, it’s only Abbott guerrillas who are spoiling things for everyone.

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has survived the latest inferno which has consumed, and at times burned up all common sense, in the Federal Coalition over the past week.

    To outsiders this might have seemed obvious as an outcome: a leadership challenge without a contender who has any serious public profile, over an issue which the party endorsed overwhelmingly last week.

    But the cost has been huge both for the Prime Minister and for the country.

    For the rest of us, the cost has been that a broad policy consensus across the community in favour of the most innocuous of policies has been ignored in the interests of appeasing a complex range of interests within the Coalition’s ranks.

    ABC Online.

  75. Snoopy

    Yes, there were people here who said it was just an unnecessary rort.

    Domestic violence leave for WA public servants ‘vindicated’ by strong uptake

  76. C.L.

    Domestic violence leave for WA public servants ‘vindicated’ by strong uptake

    If you build it, they will come.

  77. Geriatric Mayfly

    Being the child of another age, just a landline will do for me. But, I see a storm approaching. If the Hunchback’s solar folly gets off the ground, those calls from India will become intolerable. Just as their importunate intrusions are beginning to ebb, I foresee another blitz on its way.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    this arrogant cretan
    Egyptian, Shane.

    An Egyptian cretin then.

  79. Tel

    Unhistorical tosh. A taboo in most cultures apart from the West since the 1960s.

    Well the easily found written history disagrees with you there, the Christian church has been in the marriage business since 1200 AD, so a little research can avoid all sorts of embarrassment. Even before the Christians got into it, it was not a matter for individual decision.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_the_Catholic_Church

    With the development of sacramental theology, marriage was included in the select seven to which the term “sacrament” was applied. Explicit classification of marriage in this way came in reaction to the contrary teaching of Catharism that marriage and procreation are evil: the first official declaration that marriage is a sacrament was made at the 1184 Council of Verona as part of a condemnation of the Cathars.[38] In 1208, Pope Innocent III required members of another religious movement, that of the Waldensians, to recognize that marriage is a sacrament as a condition for being received back into the Catholic Church.[38] In 1254, Catholics accused Waldensians of condemning the sacrament of marriage, “saying that married persons sin mortally if they come together without the hope of offspring”.[39] The Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 had already stated in response to the teaching of the Cathars: “For not only virgins and the continent but also married persons find favour with God by right faith and good actions and deserve to attain to eternal blessedness.”[40] Marriage was also included in the list of the seven sacraments at the Second Council of Lyon in 1274 as part of the profession of faith required of Michael VIII Palaiologos. The sacraments of marriage and holy orders were distinguished as sacraments that aim at the “increase of the Church” from the other five sacraments, which are intended for the spiritual perfection of individuals. The Council of Florence in 1439 again recognised marriage as a sacrament.[38][41]

    There’s heaps of other references if you don’t like Wikipedia.

  80. None

    the most innocuous of policies

    Selling our economic independence to some fuckwit Euroweeny and destroying our economy is “innocuous.” I suppose it is if you’re sitting on a 200K publicly funded job where you’re not responsible for the electricity bill.

  81. None

    Public servants are either wife beaters or covering up domestic abuse. Fuckwits.

  82. Tel

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banns_of_marriage

    The original Catholic Canon law on the subject, intended to prevent clandestine marriages, was decreed in Canon 51 of the Lateran IV Council in 1215; until then, the public announcement in church of marriages to be contracted was only made in some areas.

    There you go, the Catholics got into it in 1215. That’s not recent by any means.

  83. None

    The Christian church has been in the marriage business since 1200 AD,

    Even by wikipedia’s standards it took about 12o0 years to allegedly “claim the power over marriage”. The church was founded when Christ walked the earth Tel, you know about the year 30 AD. And no I do not consider Wikipedia a valid source.

  84. Geriatric Mayfly

    Domestic violence leave for WA public servants ‘vindicated’ by strong uptake

    HE didn’t put the bins out two weeks running.

  85. Mater

    And Andrew Bogut on Waleed.

    Andrew Bogut
    @andrewbogut
    12h
    @AFL
    I love your sense of humour!

    Then:

    Andrew Bogut
    @
    10h
    Humour is all we plebs have w an announcement like this

  86. Snoopy

    Barack Obama on his most favourite person.

    Now, let me be clear, I’m not here to keep score or play pundit, or political historian, especially when it comes to questions about my quote unqoute ‘legacy.’ That’s for the actual historians to decide. And, I think, for the most part, the best historians already agree that I haven’t been given enough credit for pulling the American economy back from the brink of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and leaving the Middle East region better than I found it, as the saying goes. But that’s neither here nor there. In a way, my personal legacy is probably too grand in scope to be measured solely through the lens of history. Many of you have suggested as much in your letters.

    RTWT
    ☺️

  87. None

    Unhistorical tosh. A taboo in most cultures apart from the West since the 1960s.

    Correct. This is why the church didn’t have to carry on about marriage and adultery. What it did rail against in the first few centuries is : getting men to live up to the same standards as they expected of their women, and DO NOT MOLEST BOYS. The latter was a constant refrain among the church fathers as they progressively Christianised the heathen. You guys here would be buggered if they hadn’t.

  88. calli

    Sorry folks but it’s not a unique line of thought.

    I wish there was a “twinkle in the eye” typeface, Gez.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2794681, posted on August 21, 2018 at 12:46 am

    He aint comin’ back:

    Kevin Spacey’s ‘Billionaire Boys Club’ opened to $126.

    JC

    #2794682, posted on August 21, 2018 at 12:48 am

    Over 10 threaters the average take was $12.60

    “I choose to live my life openly as an unemployable hack”.
    Here’s a tip Kevvy.
    Don’t be in any movie with “Boys” in the title.
    It kind of reminds people of, you know …

  90. None

    I should also add, Tel, much as the Catholics here might complain, Catholic canon law only applies to Catholics. There are billions of Christians who are not Catholics.

  91. Crossie

    Let’s face it, the Coalition is going to lose the next election so might as well clean house and get rid of all of Malcolm’s conspirators and start fresh. There will be no difference whether Shorten has a majority of one or 25, he will push through every bill the Greens and the Left have waiting in the wings.

    The real power will be in the Senate so vote accordingly.

  92. mh

    Obummer left the Middle East in rubble. What a fucking idiot.

  93. Diogenes

    Over 10 threaters the average take was $12.60

    Mind you this was AFTER it released to video on Demand – why go pay for something when it comes in included in a subscription for something else ?

  94. Crossie

    None
    #2794784, posted on August 21, 2018 at 8:53 am
    I should also add, Tel, much as the Catholics here might complain, Catholic canon law only applies to Catholics. There are billions of Christians who are not Catholics.

    Absolutely true. Why would anyone think otherwise?

    That thing about billions of Christians who are not Catholics, not true. Not even one billion.

  95. None

    That thing about billions of Christians who are not Catholics, not true. Not even one billion.

    2.6 billion

  96. Crossie

    Peter FitzSimons
    @Peter_Fitz
    I have had the same thought. She has been Deputy to Turnbull twice and Abbott once.
    Of the contenders, after Malcolm, she is surely the one most acceptable to those in the middle who might vote either Labor or LNP.
    But she barely gets mentioned in dispatches. Very odd.
    #auspol

    Like None said, stupido. It seems treachery is seen as a virtue in his world.

  97. Leigh Lowe

    Over 10 threaters the average take was $12.60

    Mind you this was AFTER it released to video on Demand – why go pay for something when it comes in included in a subscription for something else ?

    Possibly.
    But why send it to streaming before a theatre opening?
    My bet would be that they did test screenings and found that Spacey and the movie were stinkers.

  98. None

    “Now, let me be clear” One of Obama’s many verbal ticks. I would be rich if I got a dollar every time he said that phrase. He was quite simply the most boring speaker in the world, with an awful delivery. A drone.

  99. None

    Andrew Bogut is a legend.

  100. Baldrick

    For the rest of us, the cost has been that a broad policy consensus across the community in favour of the most innocuous of policies has been ignored in the interests of appeasing a complex range of interests within the Coalition’s ranks.

    Mmyess, climate change policies have been so innocuous they’ve only accounted for 6 prime ministerships in the last 10 years.

  101. calli

    The Christian church has been in the marriage business since 1200 AD,

    In a sense, the Church is the marriage business.

    A half of it anyway.

  102. None

    I’d like to think they will role Turnbull this morning but I think they might wait a week. *sigh*

  103. Crossie

    That thing about billions of Christians who are not Catholics, not true. Not even one billion.

    2.6 billion

    That would be all Christians of which the majority are Catholic.

  104. Tel

    There are billions of Christians who are not Catholics.

    The Catholic church was kind of influential in medieval Europe and thus had a significant influence on the development of Western culture and civilization. This can’t possibly be the first time someone has pointed that out.

  105. Diogenes

    y bet would be that they did test screenings and found that Spacey and the movie were stinkers.

    I prefer to believe that the homophobic* SOB’s wanted to make sure Spacey’s career would be dead, buried and with a wooden stake in its heart.

    *you say anything bad against a a gay, foreigner, woman, non binary gender you are immediately branded a …phobe., so I will apply it to ‘them’ 🙂

  106. Baldrick

    Malcolm: “If I’m going down, I’m taking the whole Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party with me”:

    ABC News @abcnews
    OPINION: Peter Dutton’s family trust could make him ineligible to sit in Parliament — and open a Pandora’s box of litigation

  107. None

    If you build it, they will come.

    It’s like a perverse version of Say’s Law. Supply creates its own demand.

  108. None

    Baldrick
    #2794801, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:10 am

    See Tim Blair for some illumination on the source of that scare mongering (try not to laugh).

  109. calli

    Well Balders, he’s bought it. He may as well get his money’s worth.

  110. Crossie

    None
    #2794793, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:05 am
    “Now, let me be clear” One of Obama’s many verbal ticks. I would be rich if I got a dollar every time he said that phrase. He was quite simply the most boring speaker in the world, with an awful delivery. A drone.

    What irritated me was the look-left-look-right as if he were watching tennis when he read the TelePrompTer.

    And let’s not forget the chin in the air and looking down his nose.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Lib leadership declared vacant.
    Old news.
    It’s been vacant since 2015.

  112. Snoopy

    Following weeks of turmoil surrounding Tesla and it’s CEO Elon Musk, J.P. Morgan has predicted that Tesla’s stock price will plunge 30 percent as the investment giant believes that funding for taking the company private is not “secured” as Musk claims.
    J.P. Morgan now believes that Elon Musk’s claims that funding was secured to take Tesla private may not have been entirely based in truth, as a result, the firm has cut its December price target for Tesla from $308 to $195 — a drop of about 30 percent, CNBC reports. Tesla shares fell by 1.1 percent following the note from J.P. Morgan.

    Surely we haven’t just witnessed the Saudis deliberately do over Tesla?

  113. mh

    Prime Minister Dutton. I like the sound of that.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    2 nominations.
    Dutton v Trumble.

  115. Crossie

    Baldrick
    #2794801, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:10 am
    Malcolm: “If I’m going down, I’m taking the whole Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party with me”:

    ABC News @abcnews
    OPINION: Peter Dutton’s family trust could make him ineligible to sit in Parliament — and open a Pandora’s box of litigation

    His majesty is not smart enough to realise that if he takes out all other challengers the only one left will be Abbott.

  116. None

    Cabinet ministers abandon PM

    People have been abandoning Turnbull all his life. He might want to start thinking about the common denominator.

  117. Herodotus

    The blonde on Sky: Dutton doesn’t have the charisma of Scott Morrison.

    Nor the baggage, I’d say.

  118. Dianeh

    sky saying people don’t know who Dutton is. I call bullshit. He is the Immigration minister. People know who he is.

  119. Crossie

    calli
    #2794804, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:12 am
    Well Balders, he’s bought it. He may as well get his money’s worth.

    That’s right, we may call it the LNP but Mal retitled it the Turnbull Coalition before the last election.

  120. Tom

    Andrew Bogut on Waleed.

    Andrew Bogut
    @
    10h
    Humour is all we plebs have w an announcement like this

    Gerard Whateley has announced that today he is going to give Waleed Aly an interruption-free handjob at SEN, Melbourne’s former sports station, now a hub of green left politics, where Bawwie Cassidy, courtesy of his former fellow ABC taxeater Whateley, lectures sports fans each week on the evils of the Trump Train and AbbottSatan.

    What a toilet Craig Hutchison has turned SEN into. The next radio ratings a week from today will confirm the audience is down 25-50% on last year’s as the station is systematically destroyed by leftism.

  121. Baldrick

    Malcolm’s getting in first before Dutton can secure the numbers:

    Caitlyn Gribbin ✔ @CaitlynGribbin
    BREAKING: Malcolm Turnbull has declared the Liberal leadership is vacant. A spill is on between Malcolm Turnbull and Peter Dutton

  122. calli

    Now I know why Prissy Chryme sounded so hysterical on Sunrise.

  123. None

    So Turnbull I think is going for the element of surprise.
    This could be fun. It could be Dutton loses out today and Abbott wins later this week.
    Or we can have PM Potatohead by lunch time!

  124. cohenite

    Who’s the deputy; is it vacant as well?

  125. Des Deskperson

    I’m no fan of Senator Anning, but this ABC Fact Check attempting to prove that his claim that “Muslims in NSW and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes,” is ‘baseless:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/fact-check-fraser-anning-muslim-crime-nsw-victoria/10133028

    Is, even by ABC standards, a shoddy and biased piece of work.

    The fact check points out that there is no date available on the religious affiliation of convicted criminals. Fair enough, but then they have to get around this fact:

    “A spokesperson for Corrective Services NSW told Fact Check self-identifying Muslims made up 10.3 per cent of the prison population, which includes those held on remand but not yet convicted in July 2018.

    Muslims made up 4 per cent of the general population of NSW at the time of the last census.”

    This they do with a particularly mendacious use of semantics: not all of these people will be convicted, and not everyone who is convicted ends up in jail. On this basis, fact check concludes:

    “Given the focus of Senator Anning’s claim relates to convictions and not prison sentences, Fact Check considers that data on the religious affiliations of prisoners is not relevant in checking the veracity of his claim”.

    WTF?? There may be any number of reason why there is significantly high proportion of people identifying as Moslems in the prison system, but to shrug it off like this as irrelevant shows a dishonesty and a lack of professionalism verging on cowardice.

  126. Herodotus

    Bishop’s job spilled as well.

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Deputy leadership spilled as well.
    Excellent.

  128. None

    You’re a brave lass, Calli, to watch Sunrise.

  129. Crossie

    sky saying people don’t know who Dutton is.

    That may be a plus, the ones they know they don’t like.

  130. Malcolm’s getting in first before Dutton can secure the numbers:

    Yep
    Turncoat is a bastard, but a cunning bastard.

  131. Dianeh

    Dutton May have the numbers. He doesn’t have to run today. He can challenge later on if he wasn’t ready today. So my bet is Dutton is in with a shot.

  132. calli

    It’s my source of talking points for Stitch ‘n Bitch, None.

    Forewarned is forearmed. 😄

  133. Baldrick

    Who’s the deputy; is it vacant as well?

    Julie Bishop has released a statement saying she will be happy to work as Deputy no matter who wins the prime ministership.
    (This may, or may not be true)

  134. Dianeh

    Speers says Hunt probably challenging Bishop for deputy

  135. Crossie

    Bishop’s job spilled as well.

    The stick insect has had her day, begone.

  136. Cactus

    bwahahahahahahahhaa.
    This is all too awesome. Turnbull – don’t let the door hit you on the way….

  137. calli

    As we await a possible changing of the guard, here’s a timely trip down Memory Lane, courtesy of Tim Blair.

    It’s at the root of today’s kerfuffle after all.

  138. Geriatric Mayfly

    Julie Bishop has released a statement saying she will be happy to work as Deputy no matter who wins the prime ministership.

    Surround me with fat women, sayeth the winner.

  139. Baldrick

    The best result would be for Malcolm to retain the leadership.

    That way the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party can be annihilated at the next election.

  140. Crossie

    Speers says Hunt probably challenging Bishop for deputy

    If you are going for the traitors faction why not go the whole hog and pick Chrissie Pyne?

  141. Dianeh

    Speers saying Turnbull could win and then they could get back to where they were before.

    Dreaming mate. Turnbull is finished. The question is whether he takes the party down with him.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    Trumble.
    48 – 35.
    7 shift ground and he is a goner.

  143. calli

    🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

  144. Herodotus

    So that’s 35, not just a couple of malcontents.

  145. Crossie

    I want the names of every one of those 48 swine.

  146. Dianeh

    Turnbull has lost 35 of them. I think Turnbull will be finished within the next 3 weeks. Things won’t be getting better for him.

  147. mh

    One more Newspoll for Mickey Trumble, then he’s gaaaawn.

  148. Dianeh

    Well that was exciting. Now to wait for round 2

  149. Baldrick

    Go you good thing Malcolm. Hang in there. 🎉👏

  150. Crossie

    The stick insect lives!

  151. Herodotus

    “We will get on with the business now, of amending the NEG on a daily basis”.

  152. Senile Old Guy

    Meanwhile, the ABC is, as always, wrong. Today’s stories.

    Tony Abbott should quit Federal Parliament, Coalition MP says amid leadership speculation
    AM Exclusive by political reporter Tom Iggulden
    Updated 18 minutes ago

    Tony Abbott has been shirtfronted by his own side, with Nationals backbencher and former AFL player Damien Drum taking the former prime minister on.

    The guy is a nobody. But the ABC cites him.

    A Government seemingly bent on self-destruction; malevolent players who make Shakespeare’s most cunning characters look like angels; and an all-consuming sense of chaos when a group of normally rational human beings abandon even apparent self-interest. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has survived the latest inferno which has consumed, and at times burned up all common sense, in the Federal Coalition over the past week. To outsiders this might have seemed obvious as an outcome: a leadership challenge without a contender who has any serious public profile, over an issue which the party endorsed overwhelmingly last week.

    The party was blackmailed by Turnbull, who put the policy to the ALP before showing it to his own party.

    But the cost has been huge both for the Prime Minister and for the country.

    For the rest of us, the cost has been that a broad policy consensus across the community in favour of the most innocuous of policies has been ignored in the interests of appeasing a complex range of interests within the Coalition’s ranks.

    Less than a week after securing his party’s support for a new energy policy, Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership is under intense scrutiny. What’s going on right now? The Prime Minister is facing opposition from inside his party. He has been forced to change his energy policy — formulated and agreed to just last week — to head off the threat of his own colleagues voting against the policy in Parliament.

    There is something wrong with a policy that the PMs colleagues are going to vote against.

    And, missing from these items, is any acknowledgement that Turnbull’s primary problem is that the public mostly don’t trust or want him.

  153. Crossie

    The potted plant on Sky thinks Malcolm is going to call an election before the next leadership spill. I wouldn’t put it past him.

  154. calli

    Kochie suddenly worried about da uncerdainty. Didn’t bother him at all when Turnstyle stabbed Abbott.

    These people.

  155. Barry

    I just want to know whether my homo Tim Wilson was in the 48 or the 35 so I can decide whether to vote for him again.

  156. Sorry, Tel, but you said

    The church claimed the power over marriage and made it sinful to have sex outside marriage, thereby putting itself in the key position to decide reproductive rights

    and yet the information you’ve provided has done nothing to bolster this claim. You provided a link from Wiki which emphasized marriages sacramental character and thus irrelevent to your claim, and yet above it we find:

    Matrimony, for most of Church history, had been celebrated (as in traditions such as the Roman and Judaic) without clergy and was done according to local customs. The first available written detailed account of a Christian wedding in the West dates only from the 9th century and appears to be identical to the old nuptial service of Ancient Rome.[34] However, early witnesses to the practice of intervention by the clergy in the marriage of early Christians include Tertullian, who speaks of Christians “requesting marriage” from them,[43] and Ignatius of Antioch, who said Christians should form their union with the approval of the bishop – although the absence of clergy placed no bar, and there is no suggestion that the recommendation was widely adopted.[13]

    In the 4th century in the Eastern Church it was the custom in some areas for marriages to receive a blessing by a priest to ensure fertility.[44] There are also a few accounts of religious nuptial services from the 7th century onward.[45] However, while in the East the priest was seen as ministering the sacrament, in the West it was the two parties to the marriage (if baptized) who effectively ministered, and their concordant word was sufficient proof of the existence of a sacramental marriage, whose validity required neither the presence of witnesses nor observance of the law of the 1215 Fourth Lateran Council that demanded publication of the banns of marriage.[46]

    Thus, with few local exceptions, until in some cases long after the Council of Trent, marriages in Europe were by mutual consent, declaration of intention to marry and upon the subsequent physical union of the parties.

    And the increased involvement of the Church, though still minimal, for instance, requiring the presence of a parish priest, his delegate, or two witnesses, was so as to guarantee the free mutual consent of the spouses. As CL has often reminded us, the role of the priest is simply to witness the vows of the spouses who are their own ministers.

  157. Crossie

    Tony Abbott has been shirtfronted by his own side, with Nationals backbencher and former AFL player Damien Drum taking the former prime minister on.

    What’s Malcolm got on him?

  158. Senile Old Guy

    Turnbull won 48 to 35

    Oh dear! Yes, Turnbull is gone. Over 40% voted against him. Authority and credibility ruined.

    And what happens to his prized NEG?

  159. cohenite

    FMD, that solved nothing. 48 to 35. 48 cretins, gutless, spineless bastards.

  160. Crossie

    We are not governed by the cream of our society, we are governed by scum which also rises to the top.

  161. None

    So much for the overwhelming support, ay Malcolm?
    Can’t wait for round two.

  162. None

    I just want to know whether my homo Tim Wilson was in the 48 or the 35 so I can decide whether to vote for him again.

    It was probably a secret ballot but I can guarantee you your homo voted Turnbull.

  163. Cactus

    Turnbull wins. Why. Bloody hell! This show rumbles on.

  164. Crossie

    Peter Dutton resigns.

    Does that mean his portfolio will be broken up and given to a bunch of loyalists, all 48 will be ministers now. Mal will have no backbencher.

  165. calli

    The Black Knight rises!

    Life in the old boy yet. One leg anyway.

    Ahahahaha! Kochie demanding the names of the 35 for public shaming! Yes please!

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So, what happens now? Dutton resigns his Ministerial positions?

  167. None

    It’s my source of talking points for Stitch ‘n Bitch, None.

    LOL

  168. Crossie

    Barry
    #2794867, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:36 am
    I just want to know whether my homo Tim Wilson was in the 48 or the 35 so I can decide whether to vote for him again.

    Malcolm will have every gay MP, they will repay him for gay marriage.

  169. None

    So, what happens now? Dutton resigns his Ministerial positions?

    Fuck no. Dutton should just keep on keeping on. If Turnbull wants to shaft him that 35 might become 45

  170. Peter Dutton resigns.

    On the bright side, there’s now a chance of a competent Immigration Minister.

  171. Snoopy

    A few points. 48-35 isn’t a convincing win. Turnbull isn’t safe. Dutton is now in a better position to win Dickson. No votes lost in Queensland taking it up to a silvertail Sydney-sider.

  172. None

    He resigned from Cabinet? He’s deadly serious. Hat off! He will challenge again or else he was planning to retire next election anyway.

  173. None

    48-35 isn’t a convincing win

    It’s fucking woeful for a sitting prime-minister less than a year away from an election.

  174. Snoopy

    Turnbull now has to navigate a reshuffle. Did any cabinet ministers apart from Dutton vote against him?

  175. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Peter Dutton has resigned from the front bench.

  176. None

    Bolt rubs it in:

    Turnbull’s margin of victory is smaller than Tony Abbott had when he also called on a vote as leader – his “empty chair” vote. Abbott won by 61 to 39.

    Dutton now has more time to get the numbers. Easy to do in three weeks.

  177. H B Bear

    Tony Abbott has been shirtfronted by his own side, with Nationals backbencher and former AFL player Damien Drum taking the former prime minister on.

    Bwahahahaaaaaa. How long before Ross Lyon announces he is running for Federal Parliament? Lyon still hasn’t got Freo back to the Damian Dumb years.

  178. None

    Turnbull now has to navigate a reshuffle. Did any cabinet ministers apart from Dutton vote against him?

    It’s a secret ballot.

  179. None

    Why didn’t they go ahead and vote for Deputy anyway?

  180. Senile Old Guy

    Bolt:

    But it is not over. That is a substantial vote for Dutton, who had little time to muster numbers. Many MPs were wanting to wait for the next Newspoll before ditching Turnbull.

    Dutton should now resign as Minister and will now use the three weeks to the next party room members to get the eight extra votes he needs. (There are actually 85 Liberals in all.)

    UPDATE

    Peter Dutton has resigned as Home Affairs Minister.

    That should be easy.

    Turnbull is toast.

  181. None

    You are going to have to blast Turnbull out. Even if the polls go to single digits (and they almost did when he was OL, the worst OL in Australian history) he didn’t resign.

  182. Senile Old Guy

    Bolt:

    The rebels are Tony Abbott, Barnaby Joyce, Tony Pasin, George Christensen, Kevin Andrews, Craig Kelly, Andrew Gee, Andrew Hastie, Eric Abetz, Barry O’Sullivan, James Paterson, Tim Wilson and Jim Molan.

  183. None

    I think you should write to your limp wristed lefty Lib MPs and Senators and thank them for allowing you to boot them out next election.

  184. Crossie

    Laura Jayes repeating and repeating on Dky that Peter Dutton made it known he would not have Tony
    Abbott in his cabinet. I don’t think this will go down well with the voters.

  185. Confused Old Misfit

    I own the popcorn concession!

  186. None

    Tim Wilson and Jim Molan were for the NEG and only got upset when it turned into a regulation. That doesn’t equate to rebels for leadership (Molan maybe, I don’t know; Wilson not).
    Remember there were only 10 and the 3 extras -inlcuding Molan – came after it turned into a regulation.
    Wilson and Molan cannot be trusted.

  187. Crossie

    These moron in parliament have completely forgotten why they are there and who put them there.

  188. woolfe

    Breaking: In order to bolster up the Liberal party right Malcolm Turnbull has drafted in Jacinda Ardern as Home Affairs minister.

  189. Crossie

    David Speers telling Laura Jayes that her source is wrong about Dutton vowing not to have Abbott on his front bench.

  190. Leigh Lowe

    Herodotus

    #2794850, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:29 am

    So that’s 35, not just a couple of malcontents

    Exactly.
    Two meeja memes killed stone dead …
    (1) Trumble had a “resounding victory” on NEG in the party room a week ago;
    (2) The plotters were just three of yesterday’s men working out of Tony Abbott’s potting shed.

  191. Crossie

    woolfe
    #2794930, posted on August 21, 2018 at 10:00 am
    Breaking: In order to bolster up the Liberal party right Malcolm Turnbull has drafted in Jacinda Ardern as Home Affairs minister.

    Best laugh I’ve had all week.

  192. None

    Laura Jayes repeating and repeating on Dky that Peter Dutton made it known he would not have Tony
    Abbott in his cabinet. I don’t think this will go down well with the voters.

    Agree, Crossie. Dutton now looks like he might win the PM’ship to become OL (as the betting markets have it)

    Mind you nothing stopping Abbott running 🙂

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Crossie

    #2794931, posted on August 21, 2018 at 10:01 am

    David Speers telling Laura Jayes that her source is wrong about Dutton vowing not to have Abbott on his front bench.

    Laura is full of it.
    She hates Abbott, so is making shit up.

  194. Crossie

    None
    #2794916, posted on August 21, 2018 at 9:53 am
    Why didn’t they go ahead and vote for Deputy anyway?

    The stick insect was the only candidate.

  195. Snoopy

    The dimmer twins. Laura Jayes and Laura Tingle.

  196. None

    David Speers telling Laura Jayes that her source is wrong about Dutton vowing not to have Abbott on his front bench.

    Stoush! Stoush!

  197. None

    The stick insect was the only candidate.

    One of the backbenchers should have nominated just to give her the shits.

  198. Crossie

    Laura is full of it.
    She hates Abbott, so is making shit up.

    She is a lightweight, I don’t know why Sky gives her such a high profile. If they wanted looks and brains then Caroline Marcus fits the bill.

  199. Snoopy

    I have to admit though that Laura Jayes’ coverage of the Brexit vote from London was a journalistic tour de force.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    I have to admit though that Laura Jayes’ coverage of the Brexit vote from London was a journalistic tour de force.

    Is “tour de force” French for “rabbit in headlights”.
    Lighter than helium.

  201. calli

    Tour de farce, perchance?

  202. None

    Is “tour de force” French for “rabbit in headlights”.

    Probably better than looking at all those BBC shrews.

  203. H B Bear

    Even Ol’ Leathery on The Green-Left Weekly Radio (now) Half Hour formerly known as AM says Lord Waffleworth is finished.

  204. None

    Laura Jayes probably wanted the twitterati to pick up that lie and start a meme…then the MSM can report it as “rumour has it that…”. Like that clip JC posted about new TV episodes where they shoot cooking contestants live.

  205. None

    They might let Malcolm get to 40 Newspolls and then go for assisted death.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    40 watt Laura Jayes is throwing them all out this morning.
    “Dutton won’t bring Abbott into the ministry.”
    “Dutton has promised not to scrap the Paris accord.”
    Classic Team Trumble timebombs.
    Spread a backgrounder lie about an opponent to lock them in or be able to call “broken promise” when they do it.

  207. So, Wile E. Trumble has fallen off the cliff, but survived.
    Should we tell him about the large ACME anvil?

  208. Snoopy

    Laura Jayes is incapable of original analysis. Regurgitating BBC talking points she picked up on the hotel television or witlessly spreading malelavent misinformation is about her limit.

  209. Death Giraffe

    The identification of sex with sin and death is very German. And sick.

    ..
    Dr. BG.
    No death would mean no sex.
    If we didn’t die we wouldn’t reproduce.
    So yes. Sex and death are parts of the same equation.
    Wouldn’t be much in the way of morality either, if we did away with all rooting and dying.

  210. H B Bear

    Ruh roh. Is Snowcone in danger? I guess we need to increase the ALPBC budget to keep him safe. He is a national treasure.

    In other ALPBC news, I see Googles G is hiding her Chief Economics Correspondent, Emma Alberscreechi, of the Emmanomics school as host of The Green-Left Weekly Radio (now) Half Hour formerly known as PM. Surely this is a waste of her talents? How can she keep an eye on the vampire squid from there?

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Sky trotting out constitutional “expert” George Williams to say that Dutton is ineligible.
    Fucking bullshit.

  212. Confused Old Misfit

    Laura “Fake News” Jayes! What else about here is fake? (Asking for a friend.)

  213. H B Bear

    Rumour is Laura Jayes is tied to her chair at Sky to stop her floating away during the program.

  214. H B Bear

    Sky trotting out constitutional “expert” George Williams to say that Dutton is ineligible.
    Fucking bullshit.

    Another one who will be a walk-up starter at the Van Wrongselen School of Wrongology.

    In fact the entire ALPBC speed-dial are already shortlisted at this stage. Dr Hewson is a major attraction to people of NESB background according to our Chinese and Indian migrat err education agents.

  215. struth

    Turnbull will have to be pulled by his ears screaming from office, as I and many others here have said for a long time.

    The destruction of the Liberal party is assured.

  216. The destruction of the Liberal party is assured.

    Pray that it is so.

  217. None

    You’d think Laura Jayes was screwing some Liberal politician. Oh wait…

  218. Gab

    That’s got to be the first poll Turnbull has won in a long long long time.

  219. Tel

    So yes. Sex and death are parts of the same equation.

    The equation is: sex => life => death

    But throwing away the middle bit and connecting the two ends spoils it IMHO.

  220. John Constantine

    In breaking news, turnbull has offered whatever it takes to get their waleed, their Golden Calf, to do a root and branch overhaul of the turnbull coalition election winning machine.

    New rules, waleed style.

  221. Dr Faustus

    Turnbull’s margin of victory is smaller than Tony Abbott had when he also called on a vote as leader – his “empty chair” vote. Abbott won by 61 to 39.

    Easy peasy.
    There are fewer Liberal members today than there were in 2015.

    Agile and disruptive innovation.

  222. John Constantine

    Damien Drum’s cousin mary delahunty will give him two hugs for Christmas for slagging Abbott.

    [ although Drum did do Australia a great service in keeping their crony mcgauchie family out of their entitled parliamentary seat for a bit longer.]

  223. Mullumhillbilly

    Fraser Anning turns out to be all mouth, and votes against a plebiscite on immigration.
    https://www.senatorhanson.com.au/2018/08/20/senate-votes-to-kill-off-debate-on-immigrati

  224. Anthony

    Who will be deputy prime minister on Thursday night?

  225. Baldrick

    Pauline Hanson turn out to be all mouth, and votes against an amendment to her plebiscite on immigration.

    Senator Fraser Anning @fraser_anning
    Today Pauline Hanson stopped my proposed amendment to her immigration plebiscite from even being debated, in another cheap One Nation hatchet job.
    My proposed amendment would allow the Australian people to decide not only the amount, but the type of people we let in.

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