Wednesday Forum: August 22, 2018

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  1. Driftforge

    Pushing them into making bridges when they have a need to make babies might not be doing them a kindness.

    Sensible thing is to make babies first, then bridges.

    That way there are still people capable of making bridges next generation.

  2. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Tom, we were too kind to silly women, letting them believe they could be ersatz men and run things. It’s not in their nature to be happy doing that. We should have smacked their bottoms, told them to behave and stopped pretending they are our equals. (And shagged them senseless as a reward for good behaviour.) This would also set a good example to the beta males.

    Don’t forget to pull their hair.

  3. Elle

    Thanks Tom. Paul Zanetti today. Love how he’s depicted Pyne. Perfect!

  4. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can only see the first few lines of intro. to the Bitter Sav’s latest filing in The Oz. With her hero severely wounded, a hint that she doesn’t like Dutton. Surprise me!

  5. calli

    Of course she is not my actual daughter, but a daughter in law I can love.

    Too true, struth. My three “extras” are like having fully formed, delightful adults arrive in your life that you didn’t have to train and pay for. Intelligent, loving, hard working and attractive – what more can a mother-in-law want? I have told them all so, and trumpeted it at their weddings.

    Saves me from being the butt of MIL jokes too. 😄

  6. Top Ender

    Here you go GM:

    Coalition re-election fortunes hover between zip and zero
    NIKI SAVVA
    OPINION COLUMNIST

    At Monday night’s cabinet meeting, only Julie Bishop dared to mention the herd of elephants stampeding around the room, by urging colleagues to set differences aside and get on with it. ­Nobody responded, not even Peter Dutton, who the night ­before had helped nail down the latest version of the energy policy.

    Dutton was constructive, he laughed at jokes, his contributions were just right — not too little, not too much. Normal, everyone said. Early Tuesday, Dutton ­attended the leadership meeting in Malcolm Turnbull’s office to discuss the day’s agenda and tactics. It was convivial — not a hint from Dutton he was plotting a challenge. Nor did the Prime Minister let on, even to his closest colleagues, that ­within minutes he would ­declare his and Bishop’s ­positions ­vacant.

    Soon after, it was time to kiss everything goodbye, with irrefutable proof climate change does cause wildfires. Days shy of his third anniversary, when it looked as if we could say arrivederci to the Italy of the Pacific, Turnbull was mortally wounded. Dutton’s 35 votes exposed the fragility of the Prime Minister’s position after what turned into his worst week in office, thanks to a guerilla/gorilla campaign and his own missteps.

    After several of Dutton’s ministerial backers gave ­assurances they would not vote for a spill, it appeared Turnbull had bought some time. Hardheads know these ­assurances are not worth the paper they are written on and, in any case, the damage to Turnbull and the government is immense and irreparable.

    The Coalition’s re-election prospects hover between zip and zero. Whatever Turnbull’s mistakes, voters will not reward this level of disunity, nor will they sanction another bloody leadership coup. Not long ago Dutton shared that view.

    Dutton is contemptuous of Bishop — and the feeling is reciprocated — so he was never going to heed her caution. He wasn’t even listening to one of his closest friends, except when he belatedly released a fulsome, in the truest sense of the word, tweet on Sat­urday declaring support for ­Turnbull.

    In a new chapter for The Road to Ruin last year, I wrote that while Dutton was committed to doing whatever he could to help Turnbull succeed — which he has — if the leadership came into play, he would not retreat to allow Tony Abbott or Bishop or anyone else to get in front of him, that he would run and run hard. I also wrote that probably his best friend in politics, Finance Minister ­Mathias Cormann, who has been critical to the government’s successes, would stand by Turnbull. Cormann pledged then and again to colleagues late yesterday he would play no part in any move against a prime minister because he believed no good could come of it.

    Cormann also promised himself he would leave parliament if his colleagues were mad enough to do it again. He is profoundly disillusioned and disappointed with the state of the party and politics.

    Standing beside Turnbull yesterday to announce the end of his beloved company tax package, Cormann publicly pledged his ­ongoing loyalty to Turnbull. Reports last night that Cormann had withdrawn his support, or that he had resigned, were refuted. However, according to sources, a meeting between Cormann and Turnbull last night ended with Cormann’s position uncertain. Equally despondent is fellow West Australian Christian Porter, whose marginal seat of Pearce looks dodgy again. Although Porter has the talent to one day lead the party, or what is left of it, he has also declared he will not be complicit in tearing down an elected prime minister.

    Dutton has not acted as ­Abbott’s proxy, although senior Liberals are convinced Abbott has used him. Dutton has appeared willing to be used. Instead of filling the ears of his crew with wax then ordering them to tie him to the mast, he submitted to the Sirens. If he had listened well to their songs he would have heard their portents of gloom and doom.

    It is possible Turnbull could survive, at least for the short term., but only if a number of scenarios hold. As leader, Turnbull decides when a party meeting is held to ­decide the leadership. Even if ­Dutton and supporters call for a spill today, Turnbull could dismiss it unless it transpires his support has eroded. If he can resist the pressure and stave off another confrontation for at least a fortnight when parliament resumes he will. That would give MPs time to fully absorb the views of their electors and Dutton time to reshape. Or he could trip up like he did when he flagged taking the GST off power bills, which Labor — already salivating over a campaign on hospital cuts and Medicare co-payments, which Dutton cham­p­ioned as health minister — says would blow a $30 billion hole in the budget over 10 years.

    Turnbull could also trip up, leaving it open for other candidates. Bishop, who knows she is gone if Dutton wins, has told Turnbull she will not challenge him. But if he cannot survive, she would run. Others, ­including some who voted for Dutton, want Morrison to run, ­believing he would do better electorally than Dutton.

    Leadership contests come with a lot of huffing and puffing; ­however, three Nationals MPs — Darren Chester, Damian Drum and Kevin Hogan — have told ­senior Liberals they will sit on the crossbench if Dutton succeeds. Ex-football coach Drum gave the joint partyroom an earful on ­Tuesday, describing the behaviour of some of his colleagues as “f..king ­disgusting”.

    If conservatives who loathe Christopher Pyne convince Dutton to punish him, then Pyne will most likely quit his seat — either forcing a by-election or ensuring the seat is lost at a general election.

    If Dutton prevails, the Governor-General may insist before swearing him in that he proves he has the confidence of the house. Failure would force an early ­election.

    The Liberals’ 10-point primary vote drop at the Longman by-election spurred Dutton’s shift. He was on the booths that day, getting the feedback directly from voters. Queenslanders told other colleagues Turnbull was toxic. One urged him by text to resign ­immediately. Senator James McGrath, Turnbull’s key numbers man in 2015, hopes Dutton will save the Liberal National Party in Queensland; however, he has not played an organisational role in Dutton’s leadership bid.

    While Victorian Liberal frontbencher Michael Sukkar continues his support for Dutton, others are certain any Dutton saves in Queensland would be more than offset by losses elsewhere, particularly in Victoria and SA. They rattled off Chisholm, Dunkley, Corangamite, Higgins and Latrobe, although there, where gang violence is an issue, local member, Jason Wood, voted for Dutton.

    “Victoria is not a big-C conservative state,” one of them said. “It might be economically conservative; it is not socially conservative. Dutton would be like kryptonite to Superman.”

    Abbott’s hunger for revenge, his actions as a homegrown political terrorist, helped create this ­opportunity for Dutton, and that is precisely what troubles Liberal MPs, even moderates. They abhor what Abbott has done and several resist voting for Dutton ­because of it. They reckon Abbott knows Dutton would lose the election, then Abbott could offer himself as a proven opposition leader capable of bringing down a government. Abbott could not govern to save himself but he sure knows how to kill prime ministers.

    Link with 137 comments so far, most disagreeing and saying she still hates Abbott.

  7. Baldrick

    Tom
    #2797134, posted on August 23, 2018 at 4:00 am
    Johannes Leak.

    Cheers Tom. Too good to leave on the pages turn.

  8. OldOzzie

    From The New Yotk Sun and RCP

    The Effort to Overturn the 2016 Presidential Election

    What needs to be kept in mind at every stage is that this whole investigation is not about Russian meddling. Everyone agrees that they did it and it was wrong. No one needs a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of that. This is part of an effort by the Democrats and their collaborators to overturn a presidential election that they thought they would win. No crime of which either man was pronounced guilty today is as foul as the campaign underway to foil the decision of the American people.

  9. OldOzzie

    Tom

    Thanks <strong>A.F.Branco today – sums up the Democratic Party in America – Democrats definitely hate America

  10. Farmer Gez

    You’ve gotta luv the ABC.
    AM this morning will bring us the opinions of African Australians and their opinions on the possibility of Dutton becoming PM.
    Thoughtful, well informed statements to follow no doubt.

  11. Crossie

    Peter Broelman’s cartoon this morning is the best.

  12. Crossie

    Nick
    #2797158, posted on August 23, 2018 at 6:04 am
    Wishlist:
    Pyne, Turnbull, Bishop et al on the back benches
    The subs deal scuppered
    The ABC properly dealt with

    Immediately cut off all subsidies to renewables.
    Build a coal fuelled power station in each state.

  13. C.L.

    Left-wing whore Elizabeth Warren tells parents of Mollie Tibbetts to suck it up:

    Asked about Mollie Tibbetts being murdered by an illegal immigrant, Elizabeth Warren says “I know this is hard” for her family, but they “have to remember” that we need to focus on “real problems” like illegal immigrants not being able to see their kids.

  14. Tom

    Like Baldrick’s favourite today, Johannes Leak, Mark Knight is too good to be buried under the fold.

  15. Baldrick

    Malcolm lives to fight another day …

    ABC News @abcnews
    Leadership challenger Peter Dutton has asked for a second leadership spill and Malcolm Turnbull has refused.

  16. Dave in Marybrook

    Savva nominates Damian Drum as an ex-footy coach.
    He was a choker, and a screamer. And a failure, not missed by the Dockers.
    I wouldn’t think of his party room spray as anything significant.

  17. Top Ender

    Turncoat can’t refuse – the rules say the whip must call it if the numbers are there.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Turncoat can’t refuse – the rules say the whip must call it if the numbers are there.

    That’s the thing.
    I don’t think Dutton has signed, sealed, delivered 43 signatures.
    But I reckon Trumble’s s44 stunt will tip a few waverers into Dutton’s camp.

  19. H B Bear

    You’ve gotta luv the ABC.
    AM this morning will bring us the opinions of African Australians and their opinions on the possibility of Dutton becoming PM.

    Bwahaa. With George Roberts, the ALPBC’s Barbequed Refugee Correspondent. George will get to the bottom of it.

    Australia’s most trusted news source.

  20. calli

    Ahhhh. That’s better Johannes. Very very good. 😄

  21. calli

    When does that next Newspoll appear?

  22. DrBeauGan

    There are plenty of creepy people who would vote against Turnbull in a secret ballot but wouldn’t want their signatures on a document asking for a spill in case he survived.

  23. H B Bear

    Asked about Mollie Tibbetts being murdered by an illegal immigrant, Elizabeth Warren says “I know this is hard” for her family, but they “have to remember” that we need to focus on “real problems” like illegal immigrants not being able to see their kids.

    These people are monsters. (Bit wary about that “quote”)

  24. calli

    Even the odious Mark Riley reckons Turnbull should go gracefully.

    I suspect the time for that has passed.

  25. H B Bear

    Dr BG – Yep, spineless Lieborals who blow around in the wind. Plenty.

  26. Top Ender

    Every museum in the world can get pilfered if people like this clown have their way:

    Captain Cook shot my grandpa* (*great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandpa)
    Marea Donnelly, The Daily Telegraph
    August 17, 2018 9:30pm

    When Rodney Kelly’s ancestor Cooman wandered down to the beach at Botany Bay with his mate one autumn morning, he was confronted with a very strange sight.

    Pulling into shore was a small boat full of pale-skinned blokes in odd apparel, yabbering indecipherably and gesticulating with straight sticks.

    Advancing with their spears held up, Cooman and his pal were shot at and Cooman, a Gweagal warrior, was wounded.

    My mind often goes back and thinks of that first contact and what my ancestors were thinking at that point

    The date was April 29, 1770, and it was the first landing of Captain Cook and his crew at the future city of Sydney.

    “I sometimes tell people Captain Cook’s crew shot my ancestor,” Kelly says.

    “But it’s often passed off as just talk. People that don’t know the history think I’m pulling their leg.”

    Kelly, a 10th-generation descendant of Cooman, grew up with the stories about how one of Lieutenant James Cook’s landing party shot and wounded his maternal ancestor. So when a Gweagal shield was displayed in Canberra in 2016, he claimed it for his people.

    The drab, 1m long by 45cm wide concave bark shield, fashioned from Australian red mangrove more than 248 years ago, was in the inventory of the British Museum. And the dispute has now rewritten history — at least for now.

    Kelly, 40, who lives in Bermagui on the NSW South Coast, has visited the British Museum four times in two years in a campaign to have the shield returned to Australia.

    He had hoped to return in time to press his claim during British celebrations for the 250th anniversary of Cook’s departure from Plymouth on August 25.

    Kelly says his claims to the shield, which he says Cooman used in the first Aboriginal confrontation with Europeans, are supported by members of his mother’s Timbery family, still living around La Perouse.

    But he was astonished last month when Australian researchers disputed the shield’s origins, claiming there was no evidence it once belonged to Cooman.

    “They also went to my family history and tried to say I cannot prove anything,” he says. “Then they moved on from that to say it is not the shield used by Gweagal men when Cook arrived at Botany Bay.”

    Although the mystery is unlikely to be proven one way or another, since Kelly joined calls in April 2016 for the return of Aboriginal artefacts held in European collections, one British and two Australian researchers have contradicted the shield’s provenance, as detailed for decades by the British Museum.

    When the shield arrived in Australia for the Encounters exhibition at the Australian National Museum in 2016, director Mathew Trinca repeated the British Museum description. He explained the “remarkable wooden shield” of the Gweagal people was taken by Cook in 1770-71.

    “The shield was collected in the aftermath of that fateful first encounter between Cook’s landing party and two warriors on Gweagal land, the beach at a place we now know as Botany Bay, in April of 1770,” Trinca explained.

    “The historian Maria Nugent has written extensively of this moment, based on accounts by Cook, by Joseph Banks and other members of the landing party.

    In his journal, Cook wrote that two men came onto the beach and challenged his crew as the boats from the Endeavour reached the shore.

    “The accounts suggest the landing party fired a warning shot at the two men, but then when they continued to advance, they fired directly at them. One man was wounded and ran off to get a shield. On his return, the party from the Endeavour fired on both men again.”

    Kelly,arrived in Canberra in April 2016 to call for the shield, and Gweagal spears held at Cambridge University, to be returned to Australia within three months.

    “We are the living bloodline descendants of the Gweagal clan of the Dharawal tribe (and) are at law the rightful owners of all artefacts produced or in possession of our ancestors or found on Gweagal territory,” he says.

    “We do claim all artefacts belonging to us and mandate that they be returned to our possession.”

    Kelly traces his ancestry to Cooman through his great-great grandmother, explaining he has baptism records linking her to Cooman’s grandson, also called Cooman.

    The provenance explained with the shield display in the Enlightenment room of the British Museum states: “Bark Shield from Botany Bay, c.1770. Courtesy British Museum Collection.”

    The object description stated: “This bark shield was collected in 1770 on Captain Cook’s First Voyage in HMS Endeavour (1768-71). It is the only indigenous Australian artefact in the British Museum that has been provenanced to the voyages. It is made from wood and bark. Dimensions: 1000mm long X 450mm wide.”

    Morrison plans to erect $50 million taxpayer-funded Captain Cook monument
    On the British Museum website, item 89 is described as “Australian bark shield”, and continues: “Shield made of bark from Botany Bay, Australia collected in 1770 on Captain Cook’s First Voyage.

    “This bark shield was carried by one of two indigenous Australian men who faced Captain Cook and his crew members when they first landed at Botany Bay, near Sydney on the 29 April 1770. After attempts to communicate with the men failed, Cook’s crew fired warning shots.

    “This shield was dropped when the indigenous Australians fled. The hole in the centre of the shield was probably made by a wooden spear and there are also traces of white clay decoration on the surface.”

    This year Nugent, a historian at the Australian National University, and Gaye Sculthorpe, curator of the Encounters exhibition, backed research by Cambridge University Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology curator Nicholas Thomas that challenged assumptions the shield was collected by Cook’s 1770 expedition.

    In two articles published in the Australian Historical Studies titled A Case Of Identity: The Artefacts Of The 1770 Kamay (Botany Bay) Encounter, by Thomas, and A Shield Loaded With History: Encounters, Objects And Exhibitions, by Nugent and Sculthorpe, the authors argue the British Museum shield does not match a sketch of artefacts collected by botanist Joseph Banks during Cook’s voyage.

    They also suggest the shield may not have been taken from Botany Bay as it is made from red mangroves native to northern NSW, which do not grow as far south as Botany Bay. But the researchers accept Gweagal people may have acquired the shield in trade with northerly Aboriginal groups.

    Sculthorpe, descended from Palawa people in northeast Tasmania, developed the Bunjilaka gallery at Museum Victoria before working with the Native Title Tribunal for a decade.

    She was recruited to the British Museum in 2013 to oversee the Oceania section of the museum’s Department of Africa, Oceania and the Americas, sometimes also known as “the rest of the world”.

    The section is headed by Australian Lissant Bolton, who worked in the Australian Museum Anthropology division, and 1979 surveyed Australian Pacific collections.

    Sculthorpe and Nugent had previously been associated with documents explaining the contested shield was collected by Cook’s expedition in 1770.

    Kelly still believes the shield was taken from his ancestor 248 years ago, and says disputes about the shield’s provenance are irrelevant to its return to Australia, preferably to the Australian Museum in Sydney.

    But he says staff at Australian museums are not supportive of his attempts to bring home Aboriginal artefacts held overseas. Kelly’s wish list includes five spears, including four displayed at Cambridge University and one in Stockholm, and another shield displayed in Berlin.

    “The response from the government and museums has been bizarre,” he says. “These are our national treasures and part of everybody’s history.”

    An Australian Museum spokeswoman said it was “open to assisting the shield’s return to Australia but wants to be guided by the Aboriginal community from which it belongs and at their request within the law”.

    After sitting at the British Museum display for two days, and spending two hours watching visitors to the Cambridge University, Kelly says the Australian artefacts are largely overlooked by visitors in the mass of items on display in England.

    “When I see the artefacts, I’m very proud to do something for my ancestors who haven’t got a voice,” he says. “My mind often goes back and thinks of that first contact and what my ancestors were thinking at that point.”

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    danny 11 hours ago
    yeah – for sure

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    Mark 13 hours ago
    When I read the headline I just thought like the majority of us and I quote, FFsake.

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    Thomas 14 hours ago
    How do these clowns get media attention?

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    Tom 1 day ago
    So what episode we up to in the rewritting of history , like a star wars installment it’s full of twist and turns to make up for the writers lack of plot the generation before , I’m still busy looking for the city of aboriginality swallowed by the seas with all its gold and technology from the ages

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    Phil 2 days ago
    Why would he want the shield back? It obviously doesn’t work.

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    Chris 14 hours ago
    @Phil Cash converters

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    Richard 2 days ago
    Well… I was thinking of suing any Norman descendants, because I have passed down memories from my Saxon forebears of the 1066 Norman conquest. We suffered severely under Norman rule, even lost our heritage. I keep dreaming of 1066 and really do think 10 or 20 million pounds might help me much better than having a cuppa tea a Bex and a good lie down, just think of the exchange rate to Australian dollars.

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    b 18 hours ago
    @Richard From my ancestors to yours…
    Sorry mate.

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    Gary 3 days ago
    My great great great great grandfather was taken from his friends and family, thrown on a disease and rat infested ship for nine months and taken to the other side of the world never to see any of his relatives again. He was dispossessed of his land and forced into harsh labour in a foreign hostile country and I want an apology from the British Government. White fellas hard it tough too, but that doesn’t make a good story.

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    DAVE 3 days ago
    @Gary Brilliant to the point About time

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    John 4 days ago
    Your ancestors speared my great great great great uncle so were even.

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    Phillip 5 days ago
    have you got any witness’s that are willing to go to court and testify to this effect – lol.

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    DAVE 3 days ago
    @Phillip like all aboriginal history,all been fabricated by lawyers in the last 20 years …how did a race with no written records suddenly have all these recollections sanctified and made true by what means No records all made up This was my land …nobody mentioned it 50 0r a100 years ago DO WE SEE MONEY HERE $$$$$$

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    ken crompton 5 days ago
    @Ron ask for the spear back it was given to him in a fashion!

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    ken crompton 5 days ago
    So ask for the spear to be returned it rightfully belongs to you since his great great great great uncle gave(?) it to him, in a fashion!

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    Richard 5 days ago
    What does it all mean ? why is it so ?

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    Phillip 5 days ago
    @Richard don’t know. ask Cadbury’s choclates.

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    Ron 5 days ago
    Your uncle speared my great great great great uncle

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  27. DrBeauGan

    H B Bear
    #2797302, posted on August 23, 2018 at 8:31 am
    Dr BG – Yep, spineless Lieborals who blow around in the wind. Plenty.

    Moral courage and integrity are not survival traits in politics, Humphrey.

  28. Old School Conservative

    Ya gotta luv their ABC.

    ABC managing director Michelle Guthrie sent an all-staff email addressing “personal abuse, threats and harassment” of presenters after ABC Radio Adelaide‘s Ali Clarke broke down in tears on air.

    Clarke, said she had received texts that accused her of conducting a “pitiful interview” and providing “excruciating listening for the Adelaide audience”. (The Oz, today)

    Can dish it out. Can’t take the same in return.

  29. Hey, Trumble has brought the best in our cartoonists.

  30. Empire 5:5

    The collapsing blue wave:

    This is the first time the parties have been tied since May. The Democrats regained their lead in early June and have maintained it since then. In early July, Democrats led by eight, their largest lead since January.

    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

  31. OldOzzie

    Re Dutton’s Child Care Payments – Note the Reference to how much Kevin Rudd’s Wife was making from Government Payments whilst he was PM

    The Australian Editorial

    Both Turnbull and Labor seem to fear Peter Dutton

    When searching for causes of national political dysfunction we might look to the fate of the government’s company tax cuts yesterday. Announced as the Coalition’s Enterprise Tax Plan in the lead-up to the 2016 election, this policy aimed to reduce business tax to 25 per cent, a goal broadly supported by Labor for years. But Bill Shorten opposed this, and even after the Coalition won an election mandate (however narrow) the ALP voted in the Senate to block the cuts for any company turning over more than $50 million annually. Senate obstruction repeatedly stymied the Abbott government’s agenda and has lowered Malcolm Turnbull’s ambitions while stopping some core measures. If government mandates continue to be routinely rejected by the Senate we will see no end of political sclerosis.

    While this increases the degree of difficulty for governments, it does not absolve them of responsibility and accountability. So far this week the Prime Minister has withdrawn his national energy guarantee legislation because he didn’t have enough support in his own party, he has seen his company tax plan blocked in the Senate and he was forced to bring on a leadership spill to flush out Peter Dutton, who has resigned from cabinet after falling seven votes short of the top job. In an unusual outbreak of political frankness, Mr Dutton openly says he is canvassing for those extra votes and will challenge Mr Turnbull again when he has them.

    An extraordinarily well-timed story has raised constitutional questions in the media and in parliament about Mr Dutton’s eligibility. The issue is how his wife’s childcare business is part-funded, like all centres, by federal subsidies. Labor has gone on the attack and Mr Turnbull has referred the matter for more advice. The opposition and Mr Turnbull seem to have an interest in targeting Mr Dutton; already the issue seems to have stalled his challenge. Yet former Labor prime minister Kevin Rudd’s family fortune was built on his wife’s government contracts and any referral to the High Court would see the Coalition voting with Labor to thwart the Prime Minister’s rival. If both Mr Turnbull and Mr Shorten fear Mr Dutton, it may make a telling point.

    The former home affairs minister displayed clear political cut-through as he began to outline his agenda. His plan to exempt electricity bills from the GST is populist and expensive but has the capacity to deliver immediate financial relief and political rewards. Treasurer Scott Morrison was quick to point out it would cost $7.5 billion across the forward estimates and, to be sure, an economic rationalist should be looking to get rid of GST exemptions rather than add to them. But power prices are at a crisis point, the failure of the corporate tax plan frees up some funds in the out years, and the expense pales into insignificance compared with renewable energy subsidies and other spending such as Snowy Hydro 2.0. This idea is the sort of breakthrough Mr Turnbull may need to embrace if he is to revive the Coalition. Proposals to hold royal commissions into petrol and energy pricing warrant more careful consideration but at least demonstrate an affinity for voters’ concerns.

    Mr Turnbull quite rightly points to job creation and recovery as signature achievements but he must strike a chord with mainstream voters and explain how his income tax cuts will underpin growth, along with the tax cuts for small and medium companies. This is not just a matter of rhetoric; actions speak louder than words. Mr Turnbull is on notice with the Labor leader at his throat and a leadership rival trying to lead him by the nose.

  32. min

    Uhlman on 9 saying that Jones Bolt , Credlin bullied Malcolm carrying on saying how disgraceful News Corp journalists are . Now I seem to remember he and his mob gave Abbott, hell he could not even wink on air . Hypocrite.

  33. Left-wing whore Elizabeth Warren tells parents of Mollie Tibbetts to suck it up

    Yssterday, monty was telling us ‘shit happens’ and we must be racist! to think otherwise.

  34. Maybe we are about to get our very own King Charles I.

    Popcorn!

  35. Infidel Tiger

    You can’t bully a PM. And if you can they should resign and probably neck themselves.

  36. struth

    When searching for causes of national political dysfunction

    the MSM do it with the rational of the socialist.
    Democracy doesn’t rate a mention.
    The politicians are our leaders, all doing what they will, never concerned with how their constituents will vote.
    This means the “right wing radicals” in the back bench are just ideologues doing their own thing in spite of what Australia wants (as decided by the MSM and who screams the loudest)
    Apparently, Australia just wants this all to go away and these radical few in the Liberal party to stop standing in the way of what the nation wants.
    More Malcom.
    More Bishop.
    More UN control.
    Our industries destroyed.
    No fucking power………

    etc etc.

    Hint.
    We are far more tired of being screwed by the UN and their boy Malcom than we are about going through the process of getting him out.
    And those “radical backbenchers” haven’t been radical until the election loomed over the horizon.
    Why is that?

    Fuck off and die, MSM, you , as usual, haven’t got a the faintest idea of what you are talking about, from your Soros bubble.

  37. Chris

    Fuck off and die, MSM, you , as usual, haven’t got a the faintest idea

    Struth nails it

  38. H B Bear

    If government mandates continue to be routinely rejected by the Senate we will see no end of political sclerosis.

    THIS !!!

    Functioning democracy requires that political parties outline their policies ahead of an election so people can be informed of what will occur if they elected. Voters then cast their votes accordingly.

    ALPBC Lieboral commentator Dr John Hewson ensured that this will never fully occur in Australia after Keating destroyed his Fightback policy (but the Liars went ahead and implemented much of it anyway).

    The Senate, elected under compulsory preferential voting that almost always ensures that there will be a cross-bench of rats and mice that may hold the balance of power, no longer even pay lip service to government election mandates. Instead legislation is watered down and tweaked to meet the demands of people like Pauline Hanson and Derryn Hunch.

    This is what passes as Westminster government in Australia.

  39. H B Bear

    Moral courage and integrity are not survival traits in politics, Humphrey.

    Clearly. As The Performing Stick Insect has shown for years. Political cockroach.

  40. Herodotus

    MSM FOAD.
    Adding some balance to the MSM overall is critical to the future of our democracy, so the Sky News move into FTA is to be celebrated.
    While on that topic, I wish some here would not insult Paul Murray the way they have. He’s good value and we are not so well supplied with sensible, high profile media personalities that we can treat them with disdain unnecessarily.

  41. Baldrick

    Uhlman on 9 saying that Jones Bolt , Credlin bullied Malcolm carrying on saying how disgraceful News Corp journalists are .

    Yet strangely doesn’t mention Savva or Devine.
    Go figure.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    In the meantime, the federal government has banned Chinese-owned telecommunications giant Huawei from rolling out Australia’s 5G network due to security concerns.

    The government says the involvement of any companies “likely to be subject to extrajudicial directions from a foreign government that conflict with Australian law” presented too much of a risk.

    Some rare good news from this shithole of a country.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    A PM who enjoyed the support of his ministers and the people could never ever be bullied by the media.

  44. C.L.

    Good Lord.
    Cohen’s lawyer works for the Russians:

    Cohen Attorney Lanny Davis Is Registered Foreign Agent for Pro-Russian Oligarch Wanted by US Government and Linked to Putin.

    Jordan Schachtel✔@JordanSchachtel
    Lanny Davis is co-founder and partner of the law firm of Davis Goldberg & Galper. I just checked FARA records. His firm is a registered *ACTIVE* foreign agent for Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is a close ally of Russian pres Vladimir Putin

  45. Ace:

    Media In Full Cover-Up Mode over Mollie Tibbets’ Murderer
    —Ace of Spades
    The Overtly Racist New York Times deletes word “undocumented” before the word “immigrant” in headline.

    As the Daily Caller wryly notes:

    The removal of “undocumented” did not come with any news from law enforcement officials on the suspect’s immigration status.

    But the Overtly Racist New York Times didn’t stop there. It also stealth-edited a piece about a 20 year old girl’s murder to make it primarily a story about Trump– Republicans Seize and all that.

    Meanwhile, the media is replaying its Kermit Gosnell strategy, pronouncing this a Local Crime Story, despite the obvious relevance about a major unresolved national debate about immigration policy.

    And when I say the Kermit Gosnell strategy, here’s a reminder of what that looked like.

    Without a doubt, the media is deliberately undermining the West.

  46. John Constantine

    Their abc billion dollar bully pulpit is now used to lecture the proles the we must unswervingly comply with the signed united nations control of the great barrier reef.

    Their 7.30 report spin is all about programs that agriculture can comply with to obey transnational requirements on the rights of the reef.

    The kicker is when the quislings smile and say that of course, once all the programs have been taxfunded and inspectors contracts paid, if the land that interacts with the rivers that interact with the reef do not comply, then it proves that some land should never have been grazed with cattle and must be bought back and rewilded.

    Cull the Cows.

    Comrades.

  47. John Constantine

    The longer Australia can delay 5G, the more NBN cable rollout contracts can be monetised.

  48. Leigh Lowe

    Baldrick
    #2797390, posted on August 23, 2018 at 9:40 am
    Uhlman on 9 saying that Jones Bolt , Credlin bullied Malcolm carrying on saying how disgraceful News Corp journalists are .
    Yet strangely doesn’t mention Savva or Devine.
    Go figure.

    Or the ABC hosting Captain Leatherjacket week after week, setting up anti-Abbott gotcha questions, which Maocolm would just smile at and say “Well, I’ll leave that to others to make that judgement.”

  49. Tom

    For some light relief, Tucker Carlson just had some open borders clown from the Cato Institute explaining why mass-importing a murderous replacement electorate is so important to the Washington elite.

  50. DrBeauGan

    Tom
    #2797474, posted on August 23, 2018 at 10:10 am
    For some light relief, Tucker Carlson just had some open borders clown from the Cato Institute explaining why mass-importing a murderous replacement electorate is so important to the Washington elite.

    Any chance of a link, Tom? I like Tucker Carlson. I like the faces he makes.

  51. calli

    I like the faces he makes.

    #metoo.

  52. Tom

    Any chance of a link, Tom? I like Tucker Carlson. I like the faces he makes.

    Beaugy, I’ll post a link as soon as it turns up on YouTube — in an hour or two.

  53. Stimpson J. Cat

    5G

    Is evil cancer causing mind control technology that literally turns frogs gay.
    It must be stopped at all costs.

  54. DrBeauGan

    Thanks, Tom. You’re a good man. But we knew that. 😊

  55. Tom

    For travelling Cats:

    The ACCC has instituted proceedings in the Federal Court against trivago N.V. (Trivago) alleging it made misleading hotel pricing representations in its television advertising and website, in breach of the Australian Consumer Law.

    The ACCC alleges that from at least December 2013, Trivago ran TV advertisements presenting its website as an impartial and objective price comparison service that would help consumers identify the cheapest prices for hotel rooms when, in fact, Trivago’s website prioritised advertisers who were willing to pay the highest cost per click fee to Trivago.

    Trivago’s website aggregates deals offered by online travel sites (like Expedia, Hotels.com and Amoma) and hotel proprietors for available rooms at a hotel and then highlights one price out of all their advertisers, which the ACCC alleges created an impression it is the best deal. However, in many cases the highlighted price was not the cheapest available at that hotel.

    “Based on Trivago’s highlighted price display on its website, we allege that consumers may have formed the incorrect impression that Trivago’s highlighted deals were the best price they could get at a particular hotel, when that was not the case. Trivago based its rankings on the highest cost per click it would receive from its advertisers,” ACCC Chair Rod Sims said.

    “We allege that because of the design of Trivago’s website and representations made, consumers were denied a genuine choice about choosing a hotel deal, by making choices based on this misleading impression created by the Trivago website.”

    The ACCC also alleges that Trivago’s online strike-through price comparisons were false or misleading because they often compared an offer for a standard room with an offer for a luxury room at the same hotel, creating a false impression of savings offered for the standard room.

    “We also allege that by not making genuine room price comparisons, consumers would likely have paid more than they otherwise would have for the same hotel. Further, hotels may have lost potential business as a result of this alleged conduct,” Mr Sims said.

    RTWT.

  56. Baldrick

    Wow! I wonder what it could be?

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Venezuela is grappling with one of the world’s worst economic disasters. President Nicolas Maduro has now implemented a radical recovery plan, introducing a new currency and hiking the minimum wage by 3,000%

    How very ABC.

  57. Herodotus

    some land should never have been grazed with cattle and must be bought back and rewilded.

    The media needs to be “rewilded” – start by taking out the ABC.

  58. Frank

    Nicolas Maduro has now implemented a radical recovery plan, introducing a new currency and hiking the minimum wage by 3,000%

    Wonder what they are going to pay the money printers with.

  59. Confused Old Misfit

    The ACCC has instituted proceedings in the Federal Court against trivago N.V. (Trivago) alleging it made misleading hotel pricing representations in its television advertising and website, in breach of the Australian Consumer Law.

    Does that mean they’ll put Gabrielle in jail?

  60. Gab

    Hahaha good find Stimpy 👽

  61. calli

    The ACCC also alleges that Trivago’s online strike-through price comparisons were false or misleading because they often compared an offer for a standard room with an offer for a luxury room at the same hotel, creating a false impression of savings offered for the standard room.

    CalliCheck – true

    They’re in business to make money, how about that. Sooooo, a sensible person would scroll through what’s on offer and compare to other sites including the hotel site.

    The other thing to watch is the “no refund” rates. They can be applied quite sneakily for the unwary.

  62. Tom

    Does that mean they’ll put Gabrielle in jail?

    No, COM. She just read the Trivago script. But I’m all in favour of fines or jail for company executives who lie to their customers. Telling the truth and not treating your customers like mushrooms doesn’t increase your operating costs; it just requires honesty.

  63. None

    Bolt has replied to Uhlmann’s allegations on his blog. Uhlmann is married to a federal Labor politician and is only good at writing fiction. One can safely say that there is a media cabal out to denigrate Sky.

  64. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hahaha good find Stimpy 👽

    Trust the plan Gab.

  65. Confused Old Misfit

    No, COM. She just read the Trivago script.

    Thanks Tom! 😉
    I was really worried there! After having worked in TV and theatre most of my life I thought things might have changed! You never know these days!
    The goody-two-shoes of the world might well want to seize on a pretty girl as an example to us all of voracious capitalism!

  66. OldOzzie

    Victorian crime: police defend approach to African youth offenders

    Victoria’s top cop has defended a long-running crackdown on youth offenders after a woman was bashed by four youths of African appearance during a home invasion last week.

    A 34-year-old woman was allegedly followed into her Tarneit home last Friday after 8pm by four offenders who ransacked her home, punched her in the face and drove off with her car. One offender was armed with a machete, police said.

    The Tarneit area has been a hotbed for Melbourne’s African youth crime crisis, and the local EcoVille park was trashed by youths of African appearance early this year. Victoria Police launched Operation Wayward in response, targeting 64 repeat-offender youths.

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton told Melbourne’s 3AW radio that Operation Wayward, which focuses on the Tarneit area and surrounding western suburbs, did not need to be reviewed as it had significantly driven down crime.

    A second operation had increased policing at night.

    “Well, we’ve been managing these issues in Tarneit and surrounding areas … between the two operations, more than 700 arrests in the past 14 months.”

    “(This was) quite a nasty one the other night …. These are the offences we’re trying to crack down on,” he said, “It has been successful in reducing the offending. Overall those offending numbers have come down in that area.”

    “We’re absolutely seeing the same offenders repeat offending, so we’ll absolutely nail them.”

    Operation Wayward was set up in May to target 64 offenders with a police officer assigned to each youth.

    Officers knock on their doors at night to check the youths are at home, track their attendance at schools and sports sessions, and track them when they go missing.

    The woman in Tarneit was left with facial injuries after a youth punched her. She was treated at the scene by paramedics but not sent to hospital.

    Her black Hyundai Elantra sedan, with registration ART775, remains missing. No arrests have yet been made.

    Chief Commissioner Ashton told 3AW’s Neil Mitchell that African Australian youths were a focus of Operation Wayward and that work still needed to be done to clamp down on repeat offenders.

    “These offenders are African-Australian offenders … these operations have been focusing on a range of different but definitely African Australian kids.”

    “We are continuing to arrest the same people again and again … we’re working with them (but) they’re pretty resilient, they like to reoffend.”

    The latest home invasion came days after large group of African-Australian youths brawled in a park in nearby Taylors Hill. Chief Commissioner Ashton told 3AW that no arrests had yet been made.

  67. OldOzzie

    From the Herald-Sun – Victorian Police Social Aware Group are a waste of Victprian Taxpayers Money

    Reoffenders ‘resilient’ as police tackle western suburbs crime>

    <emA GROUP of “resilient” reoffenders is being arrested repeatedly in the western suburbs as police tackle crime in the area.

    Victoria Police’s chief commissioner Graham Ashton said they had been trying to get on top of the issues in the Tarneit area and surrounding suburbs.

    “We are continuing to arrest the same people same again. That core group are reoffending. They are pretty resilient and like to reoffend,” he told 3AW this morning.

    “We need to get hold of the young bucks who have done this latest one and get them in custody. These offenders are African-Australian.”

    Mr Ashton was speaking following a disturbing aggravated burglary in Tarneit last Friday where a woman was bashed after a machete-wielding gang attacked her in her home.

    The 34-year-old woman parked in her garage on August 17 and was followed inside by four young men of African appearance, who ransacked the house.

    “One of the youths produced a machete and punched the woman to the face before making demands for her vehicle,” Senior Constable Seach said.

    A male sped off in the car while the other three offenders fled on foot, police said.

    “These are the sort of offences we are trying to crack down on, it is just dreadful,” he said.

    He said police had two long-term operations which had made more than 700 arrests in Tarneit and the surrounding areas in the past 14 months.

    “We are seeing the same offenders reoffending,” he said.

    “We need to get hold of the young bucks who have done this latest one and get them in custody. These offenders are African Australian.

    “We are continuing to arrest the same people same again. That core group are reoffending. They are pretty resilient and like to reoffend.”

    Mr Ashton said there had been no arrests made since a riot in Taylors Hill earlier this month.

    The female victim of the latest Tarneit aggravated burglary suffered facial injuries and was treated at the scene.

    Her car, a black Hyundai Elantra sedan has still not been found. The car has the registration ART 775.

    Anyone with information or who sees the car is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000

  68. Lol, so the Trivago slut was lying?
    Funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
    This means we won’t see the disgusting slapper on TV again?

  69. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2797615, posted on August 23, 2018 at 11:14 am
    Hahaha good find Stimpy 👽

    Trust the plan Gab.
    Stimpy:

    “May the skin of your bottom never cover a banjo,”

  70. Tom

    For DrBeauGan: Tucker Carlson makes fun of Cato Institute muppet over his support for open borders and the tidal wave of murderous illegal immigrants — starting at 2m40s.

  71. Hydra

    This Trivago issue is why AirBNB is so fucking good.

  72. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. Lefties are children who resist growing up. The hauling down of the confederate statue showed that.

  73. C.L.

    #MeToo not going as planned for the left:

    Singer claims he was drugged and raped in 2010 by classical music power couple

    An up-and-coming baritone singer alleges he was drugged and violently raped in 2010 by two of opera/classical music’s shining stars, David Daniels and Scott Walters. Daniels, 52, the most famous countertenor in the world, has been a favorite of the Metropolitan Opera, while his now-husband Walters, 36, is a respected conductor. The couple is so highly regarded that they were married in 2014 by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

  74. struth

    Good Lord, this Ross Greenwood chap isn’t real bright.
    Doesn’t seem to consider debt and I’m sure he believes good jobs numbers would be great even if they were all in the public service.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC News @abcnews
    Venezuela is grappling with one of the world’s worst economic disasters. President Nicolas Maduro has now implemented a radical recovery plan, introducing a new currency and hiking the minimum wage by 3,000%

    ABC MEAA wukkas to strike for 3000% wage rise next week?

  76. DrBeauGan

    Stimpy, an alternative drinking toast:

    “May the skin of your bum
    Never cover a drum.”

  77. Stimpson J. Cat

    Toasting takes up valuable drinking time.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Venezuela is grappling with one of the world’s worst economic disasters. President Nicolas Maduro has now implemented a radical recovery plan, introducing a new currency and hiking the minimum wage by 3,000%
    How very ABC.

    Bet they didn’t spell out the absurdity of this “new” currency. 3.5 million Bolivars now simply become 3.5 Bolivars. Easy. Something in there about petro dollars as well, but since the socialists have wrecked the oil industry no currency backing there. Did the ABC mention the ‘S’ word at all?

  79. DrBeauGan

    Bet they didn’t spell out the absurdity of this “new” currency. 3.5 million Bolivars now simply become 3.5 Bolivars. Easy. Something in there about petro dollars as well, but since the socialists have wrecked the oil industry no currency backing there. Did the ABC mention the ‘S’ word at all?

    You get an opportunity to understand the leftie mind by noting that every time they stuff up, it comes as a complete surprise, despite the adults predicting it.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    If you go to the ATM in Caracas today the maximum you can withdraw is 20 cents Aussie.

    “What A Disaster”: Chaos Returns To Venezuela One Day After Massive Devaluation

    Just one day after Venezuela’s historic currency devaluation, which lopped off 5 zeros from the currency and prices while bizarrely pegging the “sovereign Bolivar” – the country’s latest currency incarnation – to the petro, an oil-backed cryptocurrency (which has been banned by the US Treasury), chaos has predictably returned to the country with the greatest petroleum deposits in the world…. and hyperinflation failed to depart for even one day.

    That what Henrique Rosales discovered when he went to an ATM on Tuesday – the day after Venezuela’s historic currency transformation took place – to withdraw Venezuela’s new currency: he found it dispensed a maximum of 10 sovereign bolivars a day, the equivalent of 15 U.S. cents.

    Well before noon, most ATMs in east Caracas were out of cash according to the WSJ. Those standing in line to see a teller used their phone calculators to figure out how much money they could withdraw (they didn’t like the answer).

    Worst of all, the hyperinflation was not only back, but worse than before because within just a few hours of the new currency’s debut, its value had dropped nearly 10% to 65 sovereign bolivars per dollar, according to DolarToday.

    Inflation of 3% per hour…

  81. Tom

    It must be just me. The chickybabe on Sky Weather is 6/10 — at best.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    So Morrison, a supposed evangelical Christian is now the choice of the hard left homosexual Stasi of the NSW Liberal Party to become PM.

    The Liberal Party is morally bankrupt.

  83. Infidel Tiger

    It must be just me. The chickybabe on Sky Weather is 6/10 — at best.

    No way. There is about 6 or 7 hot chicks and one Indian dude

    Are you checking out the Indian dude?

  84. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anyone who does not vote for Bill Shorten for Prime Minister at the next election is a traitor to Australia and deserves to be stripped naked, completely shaved bald, and exiled to Tasmania.

  85. wivenhoe

    Anyone who does not vote for Bill Shorten for Prime Minister at the next election is a traitor to Australia and deserves to be stripped naked, completely shaved bald, and exiled to Tasmania.

  86. wivenhoe

    Anyone who does not vote for Bill Shorten for Prime Minister at the next election is a traitor to Australia and deserves to be stripped naked, completely shaved bald, and exiled to Tasmania.

    Bloody hell, this machine is driving me mad lately. Try again. Gee, stimps, you are a hard taskmaster, Stripped naked, I have no problem with, already bald, so we save time on the shaving stuff, but the exile to Tasmania is beyond the pale.

  87. In the difficult candidate choices ahead, always choose the one with the biggest tits.
    ALP by a huge margin.

  88. Tracey

    Is it just me or has Paul Murray had the same shirt on for three days now?

  89. John Constantine

    Their shorten Rum Corps will lop six zeroes off the Australian currency, then introduce a weekly rum ration-pension that will be tradeable instead of paper.

    Actually, wait for Venezuela to introduce rum and coke as currency [ not capitalist fizzy drink coke either.]

  90. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    I have asked Secretary of State
    @SecPompeo
    to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”
    @TuckerCarlson

    @FoxNews
    10:28 AM · Aug 23, 2018

  91. Myrddin Seren

    Anyone who does not vote for Bill Shorten for Prime Minister at the next election is a traitor to Australia and deserves to be stripped naked, completely shaved bald, and exiled to Tasmania.

    Stand in front of a polling booth for a while, Stimpmeister, and wonder at the number of people who will be expressing confusion that the PM and Leader of the Opposition don’t appear on their voting tickets – despite not being in the electorate of either individual.

  92. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tony Hawk
    @tonyhawk
    TSA agent (staring intently): I’m trying to figure out who you look like before checking your ID.
    Me: ok
    TSA: that cyclist Armstrong!
    Nearby agent: that ain’t Lance Armstrong
    Me: he’s right
    TSA: oh you look like that skateboarder (checks ID). Same last name too! Crazy!
    Me: crazy
    11:27 PM · Aug 21, 2018 from Detroit metro airport Departure

  93. C.L.

    Victorian police officer jailed for bashing a minor – only because it was caught on video.

    Enjoy your prison cell, scumbag.

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    No but seriously Catallaxy,
    don’t be an Atheist, or a Kiwi, or a Lesbian, or a Libertarian.

    Vote for Australia.

    Vote for Bill Shorten.

    Because we deserve it.

  95. Death Giraffe

    bishop throws her hat in the ring.
    It’s a smorgasboard cboice of front holes to take the liberal ship down in an exploding manure heap of despair

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    That Trump Tweet Is Huge.

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    The God Emperor is also a Prophet:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    I really like Nelson Mandela but South Africa is a crime ridden mess that is just waiting to explode-not a good situation for the people!
    7:50 AM · Dec 14, 2013

  98. stackja

    Ahmad Alameddine allegedly caught with loaded gun in underpants
    Nick Hansen, The Daily Telegraph
    August 23, 2018 12:43pm
    Subscriber only

    THE cousin of a man who supplied the gun used to kill police accountant Curtis Cheng has allegedly been caught in the eastern suburbs with a loaded gun in his underpants.

    Ahmad Alameddine, 28, was the passenger in a Chrysler sedan which allegedly cruised through a red light at the intersection of Ocean St and New South Head Rd at Edgecliff at 2.30pm on Wednesday.

    Reminds of:

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) Quotes:
    [Eddie is hiding Roger in his jacket]
    Dolores: Is that a rabbit in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

  99. .

    Far out.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SpaceCorpsUS/status/1032402400357822464

    I nominate myself for service in the Catachan Jungle Fighters XXIII Corps, Imperial Guard.

    I welcome my three lunged, two hearted power armoured clad brothers from Fenris.

  100. JC

    The morning show host on RAI is in a small boat showing the Italian coastguard releasing a turtle into the Med. The coast guard dudes are wearing surgical gloves as they let it go.

    There’s no fucking hope for Europe , you know.

  101. .

    The Mediterranean needs a Chinese fishing fleet. As to re-teach values of masculinity.

  102. DrBeauGan

    I have promised myself to buy a good champagne tomorrow if Turnbull is out. If Dutton loses to Bishop, should I pour it down the sink?

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I have promised myself to buy a good champagne tomorrow if Turnbull is out. If Dutton loses to Bishop, should I pour it down the sink?

    No. I’m misquoting Winston Churchill here, but if Turnbull is out tomorrow, you deserve champagne. If Bishop wins, you’ll need it.

  104. Eyrie

    Look at it this way – giving the nod to Bishop means the Libs are convinced that they will lose the next election and are just looking for a woman to take the fall.

  105. Mark from Melbourne

    Arky, your commentary on the disaster left a tad to be desired!

  106. Empire 5:5

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2798115, posted on August 23, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    He fixed it. The first teeet was deleted because he used the wrong Pompeo handle. I felt good about that ‘cause I’ve done it myself.

  107. .

    No one else thinks that the Space Force’s tweet about alien abduction is a bit weird!?

  108. calli

    The dirt was holding her up.

    Poor old Jez. She’s looking good for her age though.

    I wonder why they used bronze bolts? It doesn’t make sense.

  109. Death Giraffe

    Arky, your commentary on the disaster left a tad to be desired

    ..
    My feelings were torn between horror at maybe breaking something on the old girl and thinking maybe it made some good footage.
    In the end, no harm done.

  110. hzhousewife

    No one else thinks that the Space Force’s tweet about alien abduction is a bit weird!?

    Of course we do, which is why we all treat it with ignore.

  111. Death Giraffe

    I wonder why they used bronze bolts? It doesn’t make sense.

    ..
    A press fit into sheet metal.
    Weird.

  112. Muttley, I know you’re lurking nearby. I challenged you on a thread you may not revisit, so here it is again.

    I am not dismissing facts. I am dismissing the picture drawn by the dot-connections. You might as well try to plot a course to the Moon in a rocket ship by engaging in astrology.

    Well Muttley, seeing as you’re doing maths, let’s look at Maths.

    What the probability of those that are demonstrable facts being unrelated? Yes, it needs careful validation of each point as to whether each can be considered facts to a very high degree.

    Run away, or accept the challenge, and we’ll go through each one by one, shall we?

    There could even be a steak in it. Or are you chicken? 😁

  113. Immediately cut off all subsidies to renewables.
    Build a coal fuelled power station in each state green suburb.

    I fixes it!!

  114. Myrddin Seren

    No one else thinks that the Space Force’s tweet about alien abduction is a bit weird!?

    What – you think Space Force is about dealing with bankrupt Wussia and derivative, IP-stealing China ??

    Guess who has been in to the Roswell Files ?!

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    While we’re all waiting for Malcolm’s day to turn in Oz – a note from da boat.

    We are now heading into Bergen again on our return trip, where everyone leaves, so all suitcases have been put outside and all passengers are seated in the lounges. I has been a bumpy night when we hit open sea from 3am onwards, so many are yawning. We’ve had brekkie and are awaiting lunch, then the gangplank goes down. Hairy and I are hiring a car and driving down to Stavenger for three days touring.

    At brekkie I was musing over a tray containing fifteen fried eggs, sprinkled with crispy bacon. Which one to have, which one? Suddenly Larry from ‘Curb Your Enthusiasm’ appeared at my elbow, waiting. Well, I don’t think it was actually him, but an American clone of his. Take your time, he advises in that sardonic drawl, you don’t want to make a mistake. I am choosing the one nearest to the heart’s desire, I say back to him, but feeling his amusement, I then take one of them, the nearest to easy-over that is there. I just hate the ones that have a slimey bit still on top, I explain to him. You have chosen wisely, he says gravely, and we both know that we are sharing one of those special moments between two people, one male and the other female.

    I take my egg and sit next to Hairy. I think all men tend to eye women off, I say conversationally.
    We do, he agrees with perfect equanimity. It’s what we’re here for.

    I am still pondering this when a very lithe and quite beautiful young woman, around eighteen, arises from a nearby table. She has her hair held up in a knot on her head. As she swings out of her seat and sashays along an aisle, she casually reaches up, removes the elastic constraint, shakes her head, and her thick flowing dark hair tumbles down her back. Every man in the vicinity, old and young alike, has eyes on her.

    Point taken.

  116. struth

    That bloody writer for Mills and Boon is reporting in again!

    He he.

    Hope your having a good time Lizzie.

  117. .

    Larry David? You mean JC’s Gewish American cousin.

  118. Entropy

    Geez Lizzie. For some reason I am reminded of the supermarket scene in Animal House.

  119. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Immediately cut off all subsidies to renewables.
    Build a coal fuelled power station in each state green suburbstreet

    I fixes it!!

    I doubly fixes it!!

  120. Baldrick

    That trivago hottie has been telling us porkie pies

    Meh. She can tell me lies any night. 🙃

  121. Geriatric Mayfly

    DrBeauGan
    #2798414, posted on August 23, 2018 at 5:51 pm
    I have promised myself to buy a good champagne tomorrow if Turnbull is out. If Dutton loses to Bishop, should I pour it down the sink?

    Don’t deny yourself completely. If catastrophe strikes put the champers aside for another day and have on hand a bottle of Porphyry Pearl to tide you over what will be the darkest of moments.

  122. Elle

    The trivago hottie, I am told, is a feminist. Makes her hotter to me.

    Lizzie, point taken indeed!

  123. Gab

    Gritty video, Arky. Edge of the seat stuff when you did the close-ups of hammering the nails!

  124. Gab

    DrBeauGan
    #2798414, posted on August 23, 2018 at 5:51 pm
    I have promised myself to buy a good champagne tomorrow if Turnbull is out. If Dutton loses to Bishop, should I pour it down the sink?

    Quelle horreur! Noooo. Champagne is to be consumed in both the good times and the bad! This is Champagne 101, you Luddite!!

  125. stackja

    Former Labor government adviser Giulia Baggio gets plum job as chief-of-staff to Lord Mayor Sally Capp
    John Masanauskas, City Editor, Herald Sun
    August 23, 2018 4:54pm
    Subscriber only

    LORD Mayor Sally Capp has appointed a former Labor government and unions’ adviser as her right-hand woman.

    Former ABC journalist Giulia Baggio will start work as Cr Capp’s chief-of-staff on September 3.

    She is currently senior manager transformation communications and stakeholder engagement with WorkSafe Victoria.

    Ms Baggio has previously worked as a senior adviser to federal Labor frontbencher Mark Dreyfus, and from 2002 to 2010 she was communications and campaigns director for the ACTU.

    The Geelong Grammar School graduate was also head of media at Industry Super Australia for two years.

  126. rickw

    Advancing with their spears held up, Cooman and his pal were shot at and Cooman, a Gweagal warrior, was wounded.

    Don’t bring a bark shield to a gunfight.

  127. stackja

    2GB Ross Greenwood told by Michael (Mick) McCormack APA Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director happy with NEG.
    APA Group (APA) comprises of two trusts, Australian Pipeline Trust (APT) and APT Investment Trust (APTIT), which are registered managed investment schemes regulated by the Corporations Act.

  128. Elle

    Makes her hotter to me.

    Forgot the sarc tag. Oops.

  129. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the neverending jihad of low IQ
    EXPLOSION as car packed with gas canisters PLOUGHS into town hall in Netherlands
    A CAR packed with gas canisters has ploughed into the town hall of Lingewaard in the Netherlands, with one exploding and killing the driver.

  130. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Elle, I am my sort of feminist, not their sort. 🙂
    That much, at least, should be clear.

    Yesterday evening we went on a tour along ‘The Atlantic Way’, a road that wends along a series of islands and island valleys connected by tunnels and bridges, all of them rather amazing. They film Merc and BMW ads here. These days the whole area is Norway’s playground and a tourist haven. We had dinner at a local restaurant as part of the tour; the special dried cod they do (can’t recall the name), reconstituted, this particular version swimming in far too much tomato paste topped with a few olives. It fuelled the Vikings. It’s fairly vile, stringy and tasteless, so no wonder they were cross and in a plundering mood when they arrived on far shores.

    Currently it is our last look at these northern seascapes dotted with the thousand of windswept islands leading into fjiords, passing by on this ferry; although apparently around Stavenger there are very good vistas as well, rather different I expect though. I’ve just done my regulation seven laps around the lifeboat deck, stopping to examine the chute system that the video showed us on our initial safety talk. In these climes you also have to don a wierd thermal suit before you strap on a lifevest; then you have to do a jump into a tube down two decks to the inflatable raft if you are unlucky enough to miss out on the bun rush for a lifeboat. On close examination I find that the chute system seems to have some inflatable stuff that stops you dropping according to Newton’s principles of gravity, which is a relief. On the video, done with puffy fat little cartoon figures, it was just jump in and emerge safely sixty foot down.

    Mills and Boon? I’ve never actually read one. Maybe I’m just a natural? 😀

    OK, I’ll get my Kindle out now. Matt Ridley calls, on ‘The Evolution of Everything’. Up to Ch 5 now.

  131. Stimpson J. Cat

    No one else thinks that the Space Force’s tweet about alien abduction is a bit weird!?

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2797565, posted on August 23, 2018 at 10:53 am
    This Spaceforce Tweet will blow Steve Kate’s mind.

    Keep up Dot.

  132. .

    But what is it all about Stimpy?

    1980s Space Force – Brilliant Pebbles.

    2010s Space Force – Gather around, young Space Marines of the Blood Angels chapter, and their brothers, the Cadian Shock Troops of the Imperial Guard. We must protect Terra from the forces of Chaos gathering around the Eye of Terror. Tzeench – “just as planned”.

  133. Death Giraffe

    Gritty video, Arky. Edge of the seat stuff when you did the close-ups of hammering the nails!

    ..
    I know, right?
    I’m thinking extreme slo- mo of the last hammer strike.
    Or split screen of two different angles of the nail going in, but just out of sync so it’s like syncopated.
    Or maybe change the timeline to keep the audience guessing. So you see the hammer poised, then the nail already fully in, but you don’t know for sure if it really was the hammer wot done it, maybe cutaway to a sinister looking spanner before the denuement.
    The possibilities are endless.

  134. Gab

    Wow! You’re a natural at this videoing stuff. Any one of those ideas would be grand, Arky.

  135. What the probability of those that are demonstrable facts being unrelated?

    What a stupid question, Whispy. You’re asking me to prove a negative. That’s not how logic works. The onus is on you to prove your case.

  136. .

    Stimpy

    Google Catherine Austin Fitts.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    DrBeauGan

    #2798414, posted on August 23, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    I have promised myself to buy a good champagne tomorrow if Turnbull is out. If Dutton loses to Bishop, should I pour it down the sink?

    Buy two things.
    A magnum of Dom Perignon.
    A tin of Drano.
    If Dutton wins drink the Dom and put the Drano down the sink.
    If Stabby wins, reverse it.

  138. Death Giraffe

    At this point I’m pretty sure you are making fun of me, but there is still the possibility you are just really easily amused Gab.
    Either way, just wait for the next one!
    It’s going to be great!

  139. stackja

    Brisbane weather: City to get month’s rainfall in a weekend
    Jacob Miley, The Courier-Mail
    20 minutes ago

    A WET weekend is forecast across southern Queensland, with Brisbane expected to reach its average monthly rainfall total in just three days.

    A trough is sitting in the southwest of the state and will steadily move eastward, bringing plenty of rain.

    Wivenhoe Dam?

  140. stackja

    Police seize 4000 tins baby milk, manuka honey and cash in Sydney raid
    MARNIE COHEN, The Daily Telegraph
    35 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A WOMAN believed responsible for a baby formula theft ring has been charged by police following her arrest in Sydney’s northwest.

    Police arrested 48-year-old Lie Ke, along with a 53-year-old man, in a Carlingford carpark at 10pm last night.

  141. zyconoclast

    The first case of a super-rare s3xually transmitted disease which causes the g3nitals to erupt into flesh eating ulcers has been diagnosed in Southport. According to an FOI submitted by online pharmacy chemist-4-u.com, the unusual s3xually transmitted disease has been diagnosed in a woman between the age of 15 and 25 in the past 12 months in the region.

    If left untreated, donovanosis causes nasty g3nital ulcers which grow and spread before flesh in the groin region starts to eat itself. There have been no previous cases of the the disease which is usually only found in far-flung tropical and subtropical countries such as southeast India, Guyana and New Guinea. The British Association for Sexual Health and HIV (BASHH) say they have carried out past searches for UK cases, but appear to have drawn a blank. How is donovanosis spread? S3x with an infected person is not the only means of catching the disease which affects twice as many men as women. Simple contact with a victim’s bleeding ulcer is enough for it to be passed on. What are the symptoms? Symptoms can begin to show anywhere between one to 12 weeks after coming into contact with the bacteria. Without treatment, the ulcers increase in size. Other bacteria can also attack the ulcers which then generate a foul smell. Half of infected men and women have sores in the [email protected] area, which appear as small, red beefy lumps. The bumps will eventually erode but as the disease spreads it starts to destroy tissues in the infected area. Complications can include; permanent g3nital damage and scarring, loss of skin colour and irreversible g3nital swelling due to the scarring. Pharmacist Shamir Patel, of Chemist 4 U, said: “This is a very rare and nasty condition and it could be one of the first times it has been recorded in the UK. “Although antibiotics can treat donovanosis, early-stage cases might be going undiagnosed because it’s so uncommon in the UK. “Bacteria that cause the disease, known as klebsiella granulomatis, infect the skin around the g3nitals, groin or [email protected] area and causes lesions and skin disintegration as the flesh effectively consumes itself. “Donovanosis itself can be treated with antibiotics, time is of the essence. “Any delay could cause the flesh around the g3nitals to literally rot away. “This bacteria is also a risk factor in the transmission of HIV.” A spokesperson for Public Health England added: “Donovanosis primarily occurs in tropical countries or regions of the Americas, Southern Africa and Oceania. “It is very rarely diagnosed and reported in the UK.” Chemist-4-u.com contacted hospital trusts nationwide to find out how many diagnosis of STIs there had been, the age of people diagnosed, what s3x and what region of the country they live in as part of extensive research into ‘The Great British STI Tab0o’.

  142. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2798660, posted on August 23, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    Another STI. Enough to stop partying?

  143. Herodotus

    Trivago “hottie” is just a Laura Jayes who can only talk about one topic.
    Hotel rooms.
    Oh, wait a minute …

  144. Tom

    Watching Trump on Fox News Channel live TV (Foxtel 606) — actually pre-recorded yesterday.

  145. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Go back to square one. Once the allegations about the payments to Daniels and McDougal were publicized in media reports, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York – at the behest of Mueller – got a search warrant for Cohen’s office, home and hotel room where he was temporarily staying.

    FBI agents raided the locations in April. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who is overseeing Mueller’s Russia investigation, signed off on the raids.

    The shocking thing is that the Justice Department got a judge to approve the raids, despite attorney-client privilege that should have protected communications between Cohen and his client, Donald Trump.

    That’s a big problem. In the president’s words, it is “Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) – almost unheard of.” He’s exactly right.

  146. Entropy

    A WET weekend is forecast across southern Queensland, with Brisbane expected to reach its average monthly rainfall total in just three days.

    Yeah it’s August. Average cloud cover for the entire month is probably 2%

  147. Gab

    At this point I’m pretty sure you are making fun of me,

    Then you’d be completely wrong. It was a sincere comment.

  148. Habib

    Wivenhoe Dam? Bloody typical. I was going to Somerset on Sunday for a club day with the SQPBC, been hounding the boatyard to get the new engine bedded in and fuel mapped. Going to be pissing down, open face lid and your face gets gerni’d, full face you can’t hear engine pitch. And you can’t see shit anyway, hasn’t rained for two months. Rats cocks.

  149. .

    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Do they get citizenship for their Federal Service in the Space Force against the Bugs?

    Inquirin’ minds wanna know. We also want to know if Mattis will resign from the Cabinet and be appointed as Sky Marshal (7-star flag officer rank).

  150. C.L.

    BLOOD IN THE STREETS Eid Al-Adha animal sacrifice festival sees roads turn red with blood as cows are beheaded

    A false and evil religion.

  151. Gab

    The latest heresy from the loins of Vatican 2. How to demean and ridicule the natural family in one picture.

    https://twitter.com/WMOF2018/status/1032577566991888384

  152. C.L.

    Official account for 9th World Meeting of Families, that will take place in Ireland from 21-26 August 2018. Theme ‘The Gospel of the Family: Joy for the World’

    Why is the Church ‘welcoming’ and ‘respecting’ homosexuals at a conference on the family?

  153. Snoopy

    A false and evil religion.

    OTOH they don’t do this shit.

    https://twitter.com/WMOF2018/status/1032577566991888384

  154. Elle

    Elle, I am my sort of feminist, not their sort. 

    Ditto. 🙂

  155. C.L.

    This pope ceased to exist for me when he made fun of Catholic parents who had big families.
    Rabbits, he called them.
    Go jump in the Tiber, jerk.

  156. .

    WTF is a world meeting of families?

  157. Gab

    WTF is a world meeting of families?

    The pope trying to be popular and inclusive.

  158. Elle

    The first part of my comment was in relation to another comment. 🙂

  159. C.L.

    OTOH they don’t do this shit.

    That’s true.
    I have written before about the … faintest manifestation of, dare I say it … admiration I have for Muslim cultures vis-a-vis feminism and the traditional family. We have to admit that Planned Parenthood and NARAL are far worse than ISIS.

  160. Gab

    Wait to you see the “vestments” designed for this “family” meeting.

    There are warlocks on the set of Bewitched asking for return of their costumes.

    http://wdtprs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/family_day_vestments.jpg

  161. zyconoclast

    CIA-Backed Firm Tipped Off Facebook to ‘Inauthentic’ Accounts

    Facebook removed 652 pages, groups and accounts on Tuesday for “coordinated inauthentic behavior” after it was tipped off to the accounts by FireEye, a cybersecurity firm bankrolled by the Central Intelligence Agency.

  162. .

    Some conservative ought to do a modern anti version of The Feminine Mystique and then take apart the original line by line.

  163. .

    Wait to you see the “vestments” designed for this “family” meeting.

    Shut up Darwood.

  164. zyconoclast

    While the public has been focused on the ongoing Facebook and Cambridge Analytica scandal, Google has largely avoided public scrutiny about its data collection practices despite having the ability to collect far more personal data about consumers across a variety of touchpoints. There have been efforts to document individual practices by Google such as their efforts to circumvent controls on Safari. More recently, an investigation by the Associated Press revealed that Google continues to track location data even after a consumer has turned off the setting. While these research efforts have been important to the public policy dialogue, no research exists which looks at the breadth and depth of data collected by Google.

    In “Google Data Collection,” Douglas C. Schmidt, Professor of Computer Science at Vanderbilt University, catalogs how much data Google is collecting about consumers and their most personal habits across all of its products and how that data is being tied together.

    The key findings include:
    A dormant, stationary Android phone (with the Chrome browser active in the background) communicated location information to Google 340 times during a 24-hour period, or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. In fact, location information constituted 35 percent of all the data samples sent to Google.
    For comparison’s sake, a similar experiment found that on an iOS device with Safari but not Chrome, Google could not collect any appreciable data unless a user was interacting with the device. Moreover, an idle Android phone running the Chrome browser sends back to Google nearly fifty times as many data requests per hour as an idle iOS phone running Safari.
    An idle Android device communicates with Google nearly 10 times more frequently as an Apple device communicates with Apple servers. These results highlighted the fact that Android and Chrome platforms are critical vehicles for Google’s data collection. Again, these experiments were done on stationary phones with no user interactions. If you actually use your phone the information collection increases with Google.
    Google has the ability to associate anonymous data collected through passive means with the personal information of the user. Google makes this association largely through advertising technologies, many of which Google controls. Advertising identifiers—which are purportedly “user anonymous” and collect activity data on apps and third-party webpage visits—can get associated with a user’s real Google identity through passing of device-level identification information to Google servers by an Android device.
    Likewise, the DoubleClick cookie ID—which tracks a user’s activity on the third-party webpages—is another purportedly “user anonymous” identifier that Google can associate to a user’s Google account. It works when a user accesses a Google application in the same browser in which a third-party webpage was accessed previously.
    A major part of Google’s data collection occurs while a user is not directly engaged with any of its products. The magnitude of such collection is significant, especially on Android mobile devices, arguably the most popular personal accessory now carried 24/7 by more than 2 billion people.
    DCN is grateful to support Professor Schmidt in distributing this research. We offer it to the public with the permission of Professor Schmidt.

  165. zyconoclast

    Corporation Building Spy-Grid In China Also Creating Drivers Licenses In The US

    From the company site:

    Morpho has been building and managing databases of entire populations for governments, law enforcement agencies and other government bodies around the world, whether for national ID, health cards, bank cards or even driver license programs.

  166. Death Giraffe

    Then you’d be completely wrong. It was a sincere comment.

    ..
    My apologies Gab.
    Appreciate your support.
    Right now trying to put together a panel discusion for October on Climate.
    Any cats with relevant qualifications, or know someone who would be great to talk to on the topic?

  167. .

    Morpho…

    Recommence Project Mayhem, Mr Paulson.

  168. 2dogs

    San Francisco “Poop Patrollers” Make $185,000

    Literally shoveling sh!t

    This sort of thing is why we have the gender wage gap.

  169. Pedro the Ignorant

    I have spent the last couple of days travelling in the work ute about 650Km round trip to deliver and install some small but expensive equipment at a remote Goldfields exploration lease doing some prospect drilling.

    A bunch of hard working, grubby, bearded hi-vis clad blokes very happy at their latest core sample results coming in at 12.5 grams of gold per tonne estimate, and reported to their Perth HQ Tuesday afternoon.

    (Somewhere around 1.5 GpT is a “break even” figure for this area).

    Said grubby blokes less than happy to find not one, but two, native title claims over their lease lodged this afternoon.

    The sacred gold mine location miraculously remembered after 40,000 years.

  170. Gab

    Amazing how this issue wasn’t around when they were granted the lease, Pedro.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The sacred gold mine location miraculously remembered after 40,000 years.

    It’s the old story, isn’t it? How do you locate a sacred site – with a metal detector.

    Back in the day, we applied for a Government grant to fence off, and plant salt affected land down to salt bush shrubs. We were asked if we had the permission from the “traditional owners of the land.” Inquiries revealed that the “traditional owners of the land” lived two hundred kilometers away, and had never set foot on the place in their lives…

  172. 132andBush

    Giraffe,
    If I get shitfaced and then watch that vid will it come into focus?

  173. 132andBush

    Is that near Kal, Pedro?

  174. Death Giraffe

    If I get shitfaced and then watch that vid will it come into focus?

    ..
    Try it and report back?

  175. Steve trickler

    A nice change in scenery. Star Wars Canyon.

    A stunning landscape, with a few flying machines putting on a show.



  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2018/08/the-adf-exporting-gender-studies-to-malaysia.html

    You couldn’t make this pure, unadulterated bullshit up, could you?

  177. 132andBush

    Try it and report back?

    Ok

  178. C.L.

    Said grubby blokes less than happy to find not one, but two, native title claims over their lease lodged this afternoon.

    The sacred gold mine location miraculously remembered after 40,000 years.

    A dog act.

  179. Steve trickler

    To quote the audio.

    “The money shot”

    Yep, 2:40. Lead pilot decided to slip one in, right up the middle of the bloke holding the camera.



  180. Confused Old Misfit

    Only one place better to be than behind that camera and that’s in the cockpit!

  181. Pedro the Ignorant

    Is that near Kal, Pedro?

    ENE of Kal in the Northern Goldfields of WA.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The sacred gold mine location miraculously remembered after 40,000 years.

    I’m remembering a certain native title/land rights involving a certain station in Western Australia, where the station owner knew more about the “ancient traditions” then the local Aborigines. Again, the last of the “traditional owners” lived hundreds of kilometers away, in Perth, and had never set foot on the place in his life.

  183. Fisky

    Hahahaha!

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    10h
    10 hours ago

    More
    I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.” @TuckerCarlson @FoxNews

  184. Steve trickler

    Excellent editing. Pure entertainment. A link to a classic of film.



  185. .

    Neil de Grasse Tyson seems like a fair person.

    Joe Rogan – Neil deGrasse Tyson on Space Force

  186. You’re asking me to prove a negative. That’s not how logic works. The onus is on you to prove your case.

    monty, our resident logician, has never heard of modus tollens.

  187. Siltstone

    I’m remembering a certain native title/land rights involving a certain station in Western Australia, where the station owner knew more about the “ancient traditions” then the local Aborigines.

    When I saw the white archaeologist having to teach Aboriginals how to make stone flints it was time to ponder “ancient traditions”.

  188. .

    Fair, but wrong on economics.

    The government does not lead innovation. Most great 18th, 19th and early 20th century scientists and inventors were tinkerers.

  189. Infidel Tiger

    Fox News
    @FoxNews
    .
    @ainsleyearhardt
    : “What grade do you give yourself so far?”

    President
    @realDonaldTrump
    : “So I give myself an A+.”

    Superb.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1032597319231791104

  190. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    10h
    I have asked Secretary of State
    @SecPompeo
    to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”
    @TuckerCarlson

    @FoxNews

    Peter Dutton will have a good relationship with the President.

  191. Natural Instinct

    Press Briefing by Press Secretary Sarah Sanders
    .
    35 Questions on the normal stuff – Trump666
    7 questions (A-G) on other matters
    .
    Issued on: August 22, 2018 2:26 P.M. EDT

    1 Q Thank you, Sarah. Michael Cohen, under oath, pleaded guilty to
    2 Q Then why not report these payments?
    3 Q Can you stand here today and say the President has never lied to the American people?
    4 Q The President has said to Fox News, in an interview with Ainsley Earhardt this morning, that this could not have been an illegal campaign contribution because he paid the money.
    5 Q Sarah, the President tweeted this morning a frustration that Michael Cohen wrote.
    6 Q Can I ask you one other question? Is the President now planning on, or intent on, pardoning Paul Manafort?
    7 Q Sarah, I actually was going to ask about Manafort, but let me ask in a slightly different way.
    8 Q Thanks. In times like this — not that there are that many times like this — the White House has often tried to figure out whether there needs to be any internal adjustments
    9 Q I got two real questions. First of all, our colleague, Jonathan Swan, over at Axios, recently wrote — and I quote, “Several top Republican operatives working on the midterm elections told me Trump’s fanciful ‘red wave’ predictions could depress Republican turnout and ironically serve to make any blue wave even bigger.”
    A Q And yesterday — yesterday, the President stated that, quote, “Israel will pay a price for the Jerusalem Embassy.”
    10 Q Thanks a lot, Sarah. Since those guilty verdicts yesterday in the Paul Manafort trial
    B Q Can I ask you about the Kavanaugh nomination?
    C Q Yes, Sarah. Trade talks between the United States and China are resuming.
    11 Q Sarah, does the President feel betrayed by Michael Cohen?
    D Q And one more question on trade: Do you anticipate a deal between Mexico and the United States on NAFTA this week?
    12 Q Thanks, Sarah. In his interview today, the President said he found out about those payments that Michael Cohen made later on. But he’s on tape
    13 Q So how can you not explain something the President said today, on the grounds of the White House, that seems to contradict an audio
    14 Q Does the White House maintain the President did not have affairs with Karen McDougal or Stephanie Clifford?
    15 Q Thanks, Sarah. Two questions. First, you said that there have been no discussions about a potential pardon for Paul Manafort.
    16 Q All right. Okay, on a different point: Last time that we were in here, you read off some ex-officials and one current official who the President was considering taking away their security clearance.
    17 Q (Inaudible) who was doing the review?
    18 Q Who was doing the review? That was my other question.
    19 Q Sarah, in his tweet about Paul Manafort this morning,
    20 Q Thanks, Sarah. Michael Cohen’s lawyer has suggested publicly that there is new evidence
    21 Q Sarah, two questions, as well, for you. Given that five convicted felons are now linked to the President or his campaign, and given that the President promised to hire the “best people,” did he fail to live up to that promise?
    22 Q And can I just follow up? My second question, Sarah, just to follow on Cecilia. Because I understand that you don’t want to answer the same question a million times, and you said the President did nothing illegal, but I didn’t hear a response to the question: Did he lie to the American people when he talked about this on Air Force One?
    23 Q Sarah, thank you. I have a couple questions. President Trump says he feels badly for Cohen and Manafort.
    24 Q Just to follow up on that, does he believe that there is an intrinsic problem with the Justice Department?
    25 Q No, but when the person in question is someone who’s close to him, the President paints them as a victim, as if his own Justice Department is not doing its job, or has done it unfairly.
    26 Q Thank you. I wanted to follow up about the earlier question about the President’s comments on Fox News, with regard to the payments to Ms. Daniels and Ms. McDougal.
    27 Q If we’re going to refer such crucial matters to the outside counsel, can’t we bring them in here for the briefing?
    28 Q Thank you, Sarah. Going back to the security clearances, all signs are this is the first time a President personally has been handling the removal of security clearances;
    29 Q Is he also considering a policy of just simply having all security passes turned in when someone leaves government service?
    30 Q Yeah. You’re right about the President having constitutional authority, as far as I understand, about security clearances, as well as pardons. So I guess the question I have is: Even though he has that authority, has anybody in the White House thought about putting together boards that would look at security clearances for former personnel? And pardons as well?
    31 Q Just on that — you said that there are people who are looking at security clearances. Can you tell us who they are?
    32 Q Sorry. The President said earlier this week to Reuters that he could “run it,” in reference to the Mueller investigation. What did he mean by that?
    33 Q But is that an indication that he’s thinking about taking some type of action against Special Counsel Robert Mueller, like revoking his security clearances?
    34 Q Is it an indication that the President sees himself as above the law?
    35 Q Hi. Thank you, Sarah, very much. Some legal experts and lawmakers are saying the President is corrupt and there are ground for an impeachment case.
    E Q Thank you, Sarah. Earlier this week, the President had some tough words of criticism for Jay Powell, the Federal Reserve Chairman.
    F Q So has he spoken to him directly about his concerns about raising interest rates?
    G Q Thank you, Sarah. On Venezuela, is the President involved — planning on getting involved there at all? There’s millions fleeing the country now. What is the U.S. stance on Venezuela at this point?

    END
    2:48 P.M. EDT

  192. Mark A

    Natural Instinct
    #2798991, posted on August 24, 2018 at 1:02 am

    Que?

    What’s your point?

  193. Makka

    Explaining the Clinton Foundation network at DoJ and FBI.

    Connnecting some dots

    Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together

    It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……

    From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

    A Grand Jury had been impanelled.

    Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.

    Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared. Now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

    Look who took over this investigation in 2005: None other than James Comey; Coincidence? Guess who was transferred into the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? None other than, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner. Isn’t that interesting?

    But this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?

    Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?

    No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States,

    Rod Rosenstein.

    Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?

    Another coincidence (just an anomaly in statistics and chances), but it was Robert Mueller.

    What do all four casting characters have in common?

    They all were briefed and/or were front-line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

    Another coincidence, right?

    Fast forward to 2009….

    James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.

    Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, official government business, on her own personal email server.

    The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.

    Like all good public servants do, supposedly looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.

    Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, America got absolutely nothing out of it.

    However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech; then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

    Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.

    Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

    Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?

    None other than, Rod Rosenstein. And what happened to the informant?

    The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

    How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?

    Very soon after; the sale was approved!~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.

    Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, – Lois Lerner.

    Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?

    Let’s fast forward to 2015.

    Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.

    Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary. .

    Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? None other than James Comey; who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

    Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and he exonerates her. Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.

    In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury!

    Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.

    Do you see the pattern?

    It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General,Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

    FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it:

    All the same players.

    All compromised and conflicted.

    All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves

    All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.

    They are like battery acid; they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.How many lives have these two destroyed?

    As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

    Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.

    The person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies?

    Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.

    Now who is LISA BARSOOMIAN? Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

    Lisa H. Barsoomian, an Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protégé of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

    Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

    Lawrence also represented:

    Robert Mueller three times;

    James Comey five times;

    Barack Obama 45 times;

    Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;

    Bill Clinton 40 times; and

    Hillary Clinton 17 times.

    Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

    You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

    Apparently, someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that even the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

    Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. Although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH.gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

    It’s a cover, so big deal right? What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?

    It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and-the Russians.

    Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

    BECAUSE….

    She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!

  194. JC

    Interesting that Lanny Davis is saying Cohen never went to Prague. This puts a nail in the dossier coffin.

    Also, if Trump is implicated for payoff/campaign finance infringement, where does that leave crooked and the dossier payment?

    Someone asked this question and made the Prague comment on Twitter. Fatboy, are you around?

  195. JC

    Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

    Sounds like Eddie Barsoom out of the movie, the Devil’s Advocate. Hope she doesn’t jog around the Central Park dam.

  196. feelthebern

    Tom, how good was Johannes Leak yesterday.
    One for the ages.

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    Broelman just ahead of Knight I think. Poor Mr Turnbull has finally found a spine.

    Actually of the Aussie crew I’d give it to Kudelka this morning. He ditched his usually miserable grey green pallet selection for something a little more firey.

  198. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    swamp hypocrites
    Sessions & Rosenstein must go
    Jeff Sessions fires back at Trump: DOJ won’t ‘be improperly influenced’ by politics

    but only properly by the obama-clinton marxist-crime network

  199. Gary

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sessions may honestly believe that but he needs to get rid of the entire upper leadership to be credible.

  200. Herodotus

    Interesting article about the oh so cool Turnbull in the Oz by Caroline Overington: “and yet he was smiling. Maybe because he’s rich and happily married, with grandkids and options.”
    And some chianti in the wine cellar?

  201. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Sessions may honestly believe that but he needs to get rid of the entire upper leadership to be credible.

    He is doing nothing of the sort, he has let Rosenstein lose on Trump and anyone associated with Trump. These people are not shooting blanks, they need to be exterminated.

  202. Gary

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I didn’t say he was but I agree.

  203. calli

    Dutton’s office targetted last night, windows broken.

    He’s the man for the job then.

  204. Gab

    Minister of state protects Christian flags flown at parliament on St. Stephen’s day
    Liberal and far-left parties attack the Hungarian government for decorating parliament with Christian symbols on August 20th, marking the establishment of the Hungarian state

    Well done, good and faithful servant.

  205. Snoopy

    At the election in 2016 Dutton had to privately employ additional security at his office after threats to staff.

  206. J.H. from another thread –
    “Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.”

    Ollie’s words are most applicable.

    No one in my lifetime has brought (bought?) the parliament of Australia into disrepute more than Trumble.

  207. .

    Federal prosecutors have granted immunity to National Enquirer head David Pecker in Cohen investigation

    WTF?

  208. Gab

    An incantation of warlocks at the world meeting of families, sponsored by the pope.

  209. Tom

    Media arm of the Australian swamp.

    I hope lots of people who usually tune in to Nein’s evening news saw Chris Uhlmann’s coming out as a loony left political activist yesterday. The guy couldn’t be trusted to accurately report a traffic accident and his attack on the ethical reporting of the country’s biggest news story told Nein viewers they are now getting a far-left political narrative in place of reporting on Canberra politics.

    And there’ll never be the disclosure by Nein that its latest hire, an ex-ABC hack, is married to a Liars MP.

  210. Snoopy

    I trust Uhlmann got a legover last night.

  211. .

    Sky now running a banner that makes Turnbull look like the Iraqi Information Minister so I reckon he’s toast, he looks more desperate and panicked.

    “Insurgency…” etc.

    Sky News UK also had a title of the Irish PM as “Ireland PM”, maybe written English grammar is different for highly educated journalists?

  212. Elle

    He is indeed, calli. If the left are kicking off already, go Dutton!

  213. duncanm

    @monster_dome makes a very good point.

    Hewson’s days are numbered.

    MonsterDome
    ‏ @Monster_Dome

    MonsterDome Retweeted ABC The Drum

    Got a feeling this bloke will be replaced soon as the go-to embittered ex-Liberal.

  214. Elle

    Mark Knight today. Thanks Tom. The image of Dutton in the background is quite haunting.

  215. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    South Africa condemns Trump for ‘seeking to divide our nation’ with white farmers tweet

    Oxford education pays off, looks like some n***s have mastered the art of political doublespeak.

  216. Baldrick

    Cheers Tom. None of the Aussie cartoonists actually capture the disgust of the electorate after yesterday’s farcical goings-on in Canberra, so I’m going with Stiglich today.

  217. Baldrick

    I hope lots of people who usually tune in to Nein’s evening news saw Chris Uhlmann’s coming out as a loony left political activist yesterday.

    You can take the Leftard out of the ABC, but you can’t take the ABC out of the Leftard.

  218. .

    Oxford education pays off, looks like some n***s have mastered the art of political doublespeak.

    Can’t help yourself can you, loser?

  219. Leigh Lowe

    Any “resounding victories” for Trumble overnight?
    Did he smash the grandkids at Uno?

  220. Snoopy

    RMIT ABC ‘Fact Check’

    Fact check: Are a majority of working-age Australian Muslims not working and living on welfare?

    Senator Anning’s claim is half-baked.

    The majority of working-age Muslims, that is more than half of Muslims aged 15-64, are not working. The exact figure is 51.3 per cent.

    But whether these Muslims are also living on welfare payments cannot be established because the Government does not collect information on religion in social security statistics.

    Fraser Anning’s claim is true.

  221. .

    Some of that LFPR is probably because of a lower female LFPR.

  222. Baldrick

    Dutton’s office targetted last night, windows broken.

    Police have released an image of a person wanted for questioning.

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