Small mercies

No doubt we should be grateful for small mercies. Malcolm is gone, although not gone all that far, and that is something. Scott Morrison is a step up, but lacks either gravitas or the charismatic glow. Perhaps we will be surprised, but I won’t be surprised if we’re not surprised. But he can win the next election and I most assuredly hope he does.

But what has been the most disturbing part of the day’s events were the 40 votes cast against the spill. It is possible the number was made up to save a bit of face for Malcolm. On the other hand, it really may reflect the attitudes within the party room. It would mean near enough half the Liberal Party is made up of Keynesian central planners who think they can spend our money better than we can, and who see themselves at the centre of the economy by dispensing billions towards their favourite projects. These same people wonder why productivity growth has come to a stop. Economic illiterates, but then most economists are as well. No idea how a decentralised economy causes growth almost without effort. They did it themselves under Peter Costello who made the economy hum by savage cuts to public spending and the easing of some of the burdens placed on businesses by governments. You can see the same result in the US right now, but no one here or there sees the cause and effect relationship between freer markets and economic prosperity.

The 40 votes against the spill also suggest that a large part of the party accept that global warming is such a major and pressing problem that it is worth wrecking our economy and our productive base to do what they can to ward off this phantom catastrophe. For myself, anyone who entertains this possibility at this late date is a credulous fool of the highest order, basically a simpleton without a shred of common sense. We sell our coal which gets burned up in a far more polluting way than if we used “clean coal” ourselves. And whether or not we stopped selling coal in an act of suicidal idiocy, the CO2 levels will do whatever they will do with our sacrifice or without. Meanwhile more and more Australians will freeze in the dark as the power bills go up.

The Libs plus the Nats remain better than Labor, and Morrison does at least have form in having stopped the boats and does apparently want to cut back on public spending. And all those folk who think letting Labor have a go while the Libs rejig themselves are the worst fantasists of all.

We must all live in hope, but as they say, hope is not a policy. We shall see.

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95 Responses to Small mercies

  1. stackja

    ScoMo is not MT. Time will tell. ScoMo is not BS. Again time will tell. I have heard LP is broke. ALP has lots of money, probably from unions. BS will be expected to pay the unions back. The payback can be guessed.

  2. “the CO2 levels will do whatever they will do with our sacrifice or without”
    Precisely! And when they do what they will do, they will in no way shape or form affect the weather.
    Furthermore, they have no relationship with so-called “emissions”. The CO2 component of the atmosphere in relation to the CO2 in the sea, like the CO2 in your beer, is dependent on one thing and one thing only; the temperature of the top few millimeters of the sea.

  3. Infidel Tiger

    You don’t like ScoMo?

    Just wait a few months and he’s gone.

    This is just an amusing intermission before the main game comes.

  4. mem

    The 40 votes against the spill also suggest that a large part of the party accept that global warming is such a major and pressing problem that it is worth wrecking our economy and our productive base to do what they can to ward off this phantom catastrophe.

    I would contend that it is not that they believe in the AGW mania but they are scared of standing up to what they see as the overwhelming political tide going towards renewables. It’s a case of pressure groups vs reality and these cowards keep bowing to pressure groups. Either that or they are as dumb as sh#t.

  5. NB

    ‘no one here or there sees the cause and effect relationship between freer markets and economic prosperity’
    Perhaps the greatest blindness imaginable. It seems hard to credit that education can take people so far from such a simple cause and effect relationship.

  6. Eddystone

    And all those folk who think letting Labor have a go while the Libs rejig themselves are the worst fantasists of all.

    Agreed.

    The damage done will be irreparable. A conservative party will never be able to wind back the spending.

    Look at the graphic that marcus put up showing spending going back to 1971.

    In 1974, spending was 18% of GDP, in 1976 it was over 24%, and has never got below 23% since.

  7. H B Bear

    This is just an amusing intermission before the main game comes.

    The Lieborals tearing themselves apart in Opposition while Peanut Head and the unions loot whatever wealth is left in this country?

  8. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Q. Why did the politician cross the road?
    A. Because most politicians are chickens , and that is what a chicken would do!

  9. Makka

    And all those folk who think letting Labor have a go while the Libs rejig themselves are the worst fantasists of all.

    Steve, on this you are delusional. After the carry on this week you would have to be seriously mentally impaired to even consider that this clown party can be reformed. You still don’t get it. You already have the left in power. There is no rejigging. It’s done and THIS is it.

    When you can see the Libs tackle the real issues of our day; immigration, energy costs, taxation, size of Govt, 18C – core Conservative values – then and ONLY then can you claim we have a rejigging underway. Until then, this is as good at it gets.

    Burn it all to the ground and start over. It’s our only hope.

  10. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    If Morrison moves positively against the Paris Accord and more wasteful, expensive green energy we MIGHT take notice otherwise voters will continue to move elsewhere. It’s now or never for the Coalition. It might also be in Morrison’s favour if he actually did something for the large Christian segment of the nation who are weary of promises. Turnbull promised some protection from the extremes of the gay lobby when same sex marriage was thrust upon us with a whole pack of lies and barely hidden agendas. As usual nothing never eventuated like almost everything else he said.

  11. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    If we’re looking for omens, then consider this- here in Sydney, the sky cleared up after the split! Way to go, ScoMo!

  12. Older Lib

    Kate’s Memes remind me of Bill Hartley. I’m wondering now whether his hints at a youthful leftism might not have been more than flirtatious. Libs have gifted the next election or two to shorten, a man unelectable. They tossed a PM on policy and installed in his place the two authors of those policies.
    Kate’s is among the cheer squad for this wrecking behaviour and it is very Hartley-like. Mad self indulgence and attention seeking.
    Go ahead and smash the liberal Party and see how you like an uncontested CFMEU government. We know who to thank and I for one will be clinical in my choices at ballot time and within the party.

  13. Habib

    The Libs plus the Nats remain better than Labor….

    Big call, we keep being told this, and like Lord Leakin’s towering intellect, it’s an urban myth. Slightly less worse should have never been a viable marketing ploy, especially when it’s clearly false anyway. No-one’s buying it now, they’ve got less credibility that Prince Soweto Mgumbe of Lagos with a cabin trunk full of cash to shift. The latter in fact is less likely to completely loot your entire portfolio and estate.

  14. Habib

    Mem, dumb as shit’s a safe wager. With added graft.

  15. Tim Neilson

    Steve, what makes you think that people who voted for ScoMo aren’t Keynesian megalomaniacs and CAGW loons?
    If they weren’t, why didn’t they vote for Dutton?
    Answer:
    The only reason that any of ScoMo’s supporters voted to get Trumble out was because even those invertebrate non-sentient life forms could see that Trumble’s hold on power was likely to end in their snouts being pulled from the trough.

  16. Squirrel

    “But what has been the most disturbing part of the day’s events were the 40 votes cast against the spill.”

    Disturbing, although hardly surprising given the amount of mealy-mouthed temporizing (“that’s not for me to say”, “you’d have to ask”, “I’m not a commentator” etc. etc.) which has been emanating from Government MPs this week – but perhaps the real issue about this number is that it is yet another reminder that we have too many politicians.

    With a somewhat smaller federal parliament, and a commensurate scaling-back of Commonwealth interference and second-guessing in areas for which state and local governments should be held accountable, we might have federal politicians with less time for game-playing, and less scope to pursue self-advancement through expensive promises. If the US, with about 13 times our population, can get by with 535 Representatives and Senators, do we really need 226 and growing??

  17. Cynic of Ayr

    No, sorry, Morrison has already said where he’s going. The exact same track as Turnbull. “Continuation” was the word he used.
    He was also at pains to say that he and Frydenberg did not approve the removal of Turnbull. IF he and Frydenbeerg actually voted for Turnbull was left unsaid, but he sure as hell hinted at it!
    “Journalist, “Why did you remove Turnbull?”
    Morrison, “Well you’re looking at two people who did not. We didn’t move to remove him. The normal wheels are turning. We will bring stability……….”
    Frydenberg fell over himself, with saccharin praise for Turnbull and Bishop, saying, “They will be remembered for their outstanding contribution to the Nation ad the Party, and will be fondly remembered for years to come.”
    As Steve said, there are 40 drongos still there.
    No, I don’t see any retreat from Paris, nor a correction to the renewables subsidy, nor any action on correction to immigration. Ain’t gunna happen!
    The reason is simple. To do these things, these two must completely reverse their statements over the last couple of years, while they were sucking up to, and agreeing with, Turnbull. To change now, is to admit they were wrong, or at least mistaken, and the only Pollie I know to have said he made mistakes in recent times was Abbott. These two are not going to do that. They don’t have Abbott’s balls.
    Else where I posted in the comments that I was hopeful, or at least prepared to wait to see what Morrison was like, but I cannot help feeling now, that my hope was a fantasy. I think I was wrong.
    The only glimmer I see is that a waffling, egotistical, self centred Labor Prime Minister is gone, perhaps replaced by another waffling, egotistical, self centred Prime Minister, but maybe not a Labor Party member. Morrison the savior of the Country and the Liberal Party? Not in a million years!
    The general public will eventually dislike him intensely, the same as they disliked Turnbull. Morrison has the charisma of a Warthog. FFS I dislike him already!
    So, who do we vote for if an election is called?
    I’d say that the best thing for anyone to do is the exact opposite of what Van Olsenen, Savva, Richards, the entire ABC, most of channel Nine and Seven, advise. Remember these people want the same result as Turnbull – A Labor Government and total renewable energy at any cost.

  18. struth

    The 40 votes against the spill also suggest that a large part of the party accept that global warming is such a major and pressing problem that it is worth wrecking our economy and our productive base to do what they can to ward off this phantom catastrophe. For myself, anyone who entertains this possibility at this late date is a credulous fool of the highest order, basically a simpleton without a shred of common sense. We sell our coal which gets burned up in a far more polluting way than if we used “clean coal” ourselves. And whether or not we stopped selling coal in an act of suicidal idiocy, the CO2 levels will do whatever they will do with our sacrifice or without. Meanwhile more and more Australians will freeze in the dark as the power bills go up.

    Anyone who believes they are fools and not benefitting from the corruption subsidies bring, might consider their own foolishness.

    This is Agenda 2030 and Paris being part of it, remaining rock solid with this transfer from one UN traitor to the next.

    My predictions.

    The energy problems will mean this scheme and that scheme introduced, fail, etc.

    Talk , talk, stall stall.
    Keeping the agenda going.
    Keeping ourselves down so China can win.
    All this is not stupidity by these people.
    It’s corrupt and traitorous behaviour.

  19. Rafe Champion

    Morrison and Freudenberg are not leaders have to be told what to do. Abbott told Scott to stop the boats. Turnbull told Josh what to do about power.
    Maybe they will find out what the Liberal base and the general public want like no boats and affordable power and they will discover how to beat Bill and the CFMEU.

  20. Damienski

    It’s a case of pressure groups vs reality and these cowards keep bowing to pressure groups. Either that or they are as dumb as sh#t.

    Regrettably, the two propositions are not mutually exclusive.

  21. Bushkid

    The most concerning – but not at all actually unexpected – thing is that Morrison has said in his first press conference that he’s not actually changing anything about the RET, NEG or (although not as far as I know specifically mentioned) the blind adherence to the Paris accord. The damage is set to continue.

    So, we have Mini Me Malcolm in the person of Morrison, not actually changing anything on the abysmal road to the destruction of the economy and the country. Exactly the only way Turnbull would ever contemplate standing aside. His ploy with the 43 signatures on paper was only ever intended to give Morrison and the rest of his wet followers time to get organised enough to stage the installing of this clone PM and to ensure the follow-through of the UN policies. Nothing has changed, except we no longer have to suffer the arrogance of Turnbull as PM, with his “most exciting time” to be in Australian politics. The grub is gone, but he’s ensured his legacy struggles on. He’s in no way discouraged or repentant. We’ll see for how long that lasts.

  22. Bushkid

    Morrison only stopped the boats under the strong direction and leadership of PM Abbott.

  23. DaveR

    Its sobering to think that the vote of 40-45 only needed another 3 people to change sides and Dutton would be pm. The party is split down the middle on that basis, but that ignores the centrists voting for either side.

    If Dutton-Frydenberg, both progressive Liberals, do not engage in serious policy reform that allows conservatives to support new bills, then we really might be seeing the beginning of a Liberal-Conservative split. It wont take long to see what the new leadership is going to do, and motherhood statements aside, initial comments were not encouraging.

    In any event, there is a good argument for conservatives to break away and form a new group, forcing Morrison into another formal coalition to rule. That way the conservatives get a clear say, as opposed to being ignored in the party room, such as under Turnbull.

    The NEG is probably the most incendiary of all the left Liberal policies, and it is going to be entertaining to watch deputy Frydenberg (the author of the NEG) rebuild it and explain how the new version is better.

  24. Fat Tony

    struth
    #2800335, posted on August 24, 2018 at 6:08 pm
    Talk , talk, stall stall.
    Keeping the agenda going.
    Keeping ourselves down so China can win.
    All this is not stupidity by these people.
    It’s corrupt and traitorous behaviour.

    Yep – totally agree.
    First step was disarming the general population

  25. Chris M

    These two globalists stooges are Tyrnbull’s fallback choice.

    So the remaining handfull or sane members still must cross the floor when Scott votes for NEG, just so all voters can all see the Liberal party remains knackered and unviable.

  26. mh

    SloMo is mini mal, with minimal intelligence.

  27. mh

    The other small mercy is we still have Trump.

    The orange light on the hill.

  28. Herodotus

    The most chilling thing was the (again) demonstration by the media that they are on the side of anyone but conservatives, aka the right, or the extreme right. Their characterisation of sensible people as “extremists” is the big worry.

  29. mem

    SloMo is mini mal, with minimal intelligence.

    And he hasn’t the cunning of Mal. He is a puppet and will always know it. So he won’t have the necessary gut response to issues that is required of a PM. He will eventually break out then put his foot in his mouth. A stooge that will be used until the puppet masters find another.

  30. Chris

    Yep – totally agree.
    First step was disarming the general population

    Whoring their ethics and rationality out to the media. Genius, and Howard got so much momentum.

  31. None

    Bushkid
    #2800350, posted on August 24, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    Morrison only stopped the boats under the strong direction and leadership of PM Abbott.

    Correct. Operation Sovereign Borders was planned a year in advance while the Libs were in opposition. Sco Mo did nothing. Once elected all he had to do was stand there and swat the media – I wrote here at the time he got too cocky at times, focusing on the politics and not the policy. In Social Service he ran dead. We know why. He inherited a budget from Hockey and tinkered with it. And tinkered since. Adjusting tax to eliminate bracket creep is also not tax reform. It’s more tinkering. Stealing super is not tax reform. It’s stealing. He’s an economic dunce. He is a party hack, never had a real job in his life, just sucked off the taxpayer. He will disappoint you. Watch.
    Fuck I wanted Malcolm to go full retard and quit parliament and bring on an election. The NSW Libs in particular are totally disorganized as usual and it would have been a great opportunity to boot the shits out.

  32. None

    Spot on Cynic.
    I advise vote strategically in the reps. If anything deny public funding to any of the majors or even the Greens depending on your seat by not voting them first.
    Certainly in the Senate we need the conservative with balance of power, I am not impressed with AC’s senate candidates so far. Lyle Shelton and Sophie York? Nope. Hopefull the rest of them will be better. But they are are best hope at the moment. LDP, PHON are all over the shop.
    Mind you with the new rules it will be harder for a minor (except the Greens) to get a Senate seat so you’re going to have to be ruthless and encourage as many people as possible to be ruthless in voting mercenary. And you have to commit long term as it will take a few elections to clear out the dreck.

  33. None

    Another reason why the Libs are toast, Rafe is because ‘Keeping shorten out of the Lodge’ is not a vote winner. When you’re staring at a $1-2000 electricity bill you don’t give a shit who wants to pick the curtains and the Lodge, you just want to murder them.

  34. Crossie

    Andrew Bolt is sounding like a Pollyanna on his program. Expecting much from a man who had no problem in scheming against and backstabbing his first Prime Minister can only end badly.

  35. Crossie

    Hawker loves ScoMo means only one thing – eminently beatable.

  36. Roger

    I am not impressed with AC’s senate candidates so far.

    Compared with the time servers and mediocrities the Liberals offer up AC’s candidates are in another league, several with distinguished military service (inc. our own Riccardo Bosi), while Lyle Shelton willingly took on the mantle of Australia’s most hated man for his leadership of the campaign against same sex marriage.

  37. min

    Hillsong church , ScoMo’s I believe, on anthropogenic warming says Jesus is in control of climate.
    Only smart thing that was organised is they have put two clean hands in at least Labor cannot give them a hard time about back stabbing

  38. mem

    I regret to say that Scomo and Freydenberg were the ony two that had a hand in transferring $444 million of our money to an unknown quantity with Mals Goldman Sachs mates around the table. The Chairman of which took off to Switzerland the next day. So I guess they have received their payment for going along with this swindle.

  39. H B Bear

    Hawker loves ScoMo means only one thing – eminently beatable.

    If the Lieborals go into an election campaign with policies largely indistinguishable from the Liars they will lose every time. Liars, GetUp and the unions out-campaign the Lieborals every election. The Lieborals may have more money if their crony Big Business mates think they are a chance to get in and there is a drink in it for them on Monday morning – no-one could possibly believe that is the case now.

  40. Rob

    The other small mercy is we still have Trump.

    The orange light on the hill.

    +25

  41. Malcolm Thomas

    Where the Libs are today can be traced back principally to Tony Abbott’ weakness as opposition leader and then appalling performance as PM. ScoMo, who is essentially just a wet, liberal benchwarmer, is unlikely to prevent Shorten’s ascension now.

  42. Ubique

    Tony Abbott’ weakness as opposition leader

    Tony Abbott had some weaknesses as a PM, mostly due to wanting to be decent to everyone, but he was amazingly good at being Opposition Leader. He destroyed Kevin Rudd, when Turnbull couldn’t lay a glove on him, then wrecked Julia Gillard’s political career, and then beat Labor in a landslide election in 2013. Weakness? No.

  43. Herodotus

    Where this blog is today can be traced back principally to allowing idiots to come in here and say things like Tony Abbott was a weak opposition leader. Week after week, year after year.

  44. .

    Battered wives syndrome. It’s our fault Abbott betrayed us and sucked?

  45. JamesS

    Scomo – yeah, nah ……

    Same values as Mal

    Burn the village to save it

  46. Snoopy

    If only Abbott Abbott had taken the advice Leyonhjelm never gave and drafted the Budget bills in a way that couldn’t be blocked by the Senate.

  47. Crossie

    I regret to say that Scomo and Freydenberg were the ony two that had a hand in transferring $444 million of our money to an unknown quantity

    Mem, a “real” journalist has yet to ask either of these men to explain that donation. I am very interested in their answer.

  48. Procrustes

    I stopped reading this post when you speculated that the vote numbers may have been made up to help Turnbull save some face. Are you serious?

  49. .

    Explain why Leyonhjelm was wrong Snoopy.

  50. Snoopy

    LOL. Why has Leyonhjelm never raised it since?

  51. None

    Compared with the time servers and mediocrities the Liberals offer up AC’s candidates are in another league, several with distinguished military service (inc. our own Riccardo Bosi), while Lyle Shelton willingly took on the mantle of Australia’s most hated man for his leadership of the campaign against same sex marriage.

    Lyle ran a shocking campaign against SSM despite the hate. Yeah I liI ke the tough talk from Bosi but that’s all he has now. As I said, “because Shorten will be worse” is not a vote winner, neither is “because our candidates are better”. AC – at least those who have been preselected, should be left right and centre slamming the Libs today but apart from a few tweets, are largely AWOL.

  52. None

    Where the Libs are today can be traced back principally to Tony Abbott’ weakness as opposition leader

    Yep, he destroyed Turnbull, Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, and if we can believe the press this time, he just destroyed Turnbull again. Not a bad record.

  53. Aussiepundit

    Well done, chaps.

    This is, and was always about, getting revenge on Turnbull for rolling Abbott. Steve Kate’s hatred of Turnbull has become a long-running obsession, tediously expressed through countless, repetitively sneering blog posts, similar to the affliction that has gripped Andrew Bolt over at the Herald Sun. It was hatred, and it was personal.

    Abbott, through judicious cultivation of allies, had convinced the inner circles of the right-wing commentariat of his bona fides as the true conservative champion, and that the criticisms and accusations against him during his tenure in the top job were nothing but wicked lies spread by Turnbull. Because, you know, if Tony Abbott sadly tells you over a beer that Nikki Savva’s pants are on fire, he must be sincere. But this was a fantasy, the mundane reality being that the criticisms and accusations from Savva and others were right on the money.

    The level of delusion is perfectly exemplified in today’s post above. “No doubt we should be grateful for small mercies. Malcolm is gone, although not gone all that far, and that is something.”

    Are you out of your mind? Today was a boon for Labor and the Greens. Oh, you can console yourself that everyone in parliament is a socialist anyway, so what’s the difference (am I right?), but rest assured there is a difference, and you’ll face it square in the eye before long. Everything you purport to stand for is jeopardised by Dutton’s incompetent, ridiculous, failed coup attempt.

    The only positive of the leadership change, for anyone, anywhere outside of Bill Shorten’s campaign office and Scott Morrison’s mum, is that Tony Abbott has at last been avenged. Malcolm Turnbull has been punished for his misdeeds and has been sent home, red-cheeked and red-buttocked.

    “Hooray”, I guess, if that’s your thing.

  54. .

    Come off it, most people here are critical of, ah, Tony Abbot and really understand that Morrison is more likely to win an election than Mike Trunbull.

  55. Jonesy

    Food for thought..in 2006 was the year of highest CO2 production in Australia at some 576Mt. Consider this! Combine the population of China and India (2.4billion in 2016), use the average of 0.9kg per day CO2 exhaled, equals 788.4Mt per year every year, year on year…and their population is increasing every year, year in year out…

    No matter what we do, the simple fact of living a human life in two countries SWAMPS our total output…and we have reduced that amount to 532Mt in 2016.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Malcolm Turnbull has been punished for his misdeeds and has been sent home, red-cheeked and red-buttocked.

    Pay that one.

  57. None

    Sorry Aussiepundit, “Shorten will be worse” is not a vote winner. It just means, “hey we’re shit, but Shorten is shittier.”

  58. sdfc

    The only positive of the leadership change, for anyone, anywhere outside of Bill Shorten’s campaign office and Scott Morrison’s mum,

    Morrison seems a good operator. Good result given the circumstances.

  59. Waz

    I thought the other very significant news of the day was AGL sacking Andy Vesey. My reading on this is that the board had had it with him and his effect on politics in Australia and ultimately the loss of their champion, MT. Had he agreed to the perfectly reasonable request by MT and Frydenberg to keep Liddell open for however long was required, a lot of the conservative and climate-change moderates (as opposed to alarmists) in the party, would have been placated. Of course it was MT’s bone-headed decision to needlessly push to legislate the 26% number that ultimately brought events to a head; but it was the US citizen Vesey who precipitated the events of the past week….IMO.

  60. Snoopy

    I suspect you’re right Waz. Not to worry. Andy will depart with a generous golden handshake

  61. hzhousewife

    Yes, noted Vesey’s departure, good news.

  62. Dr Fred Lenin

    All this catshagging in the left of the National Gangrene Lieboral Mafia has brought politics into an odium usually reserved for lawtradespersons used car dealers and realtors , traditionally the homes of unmitigated liars , they are now equal Fourth up from just fourth . The quality of person career politics entices is beneath unemployed professional dole bludgers , petty crims are paragons of virtue compared to them , we must destroy political parties. They create the environment for these maggots to thrive ,take the money away and see how they go .

  63. stackja

    Andy Vesey leaving not fired.

  64. H B Bear

    My reading on this is that the board had had it with him and his effect on politics in Australia and ultimately the loss of their champion,…

    American CEOs are generally too gung ho for the quiet Big Government, Big Business, Big Union trinity who like the business of rent seeking to be done will away from the public glare. Remember Sol Trujillo at Telstra? Everyone was please to see him go.

  65. Iampeter

    The Libs plus the Nats remain better than Labor

    The Libs plus the Nats gave us the environmentalist bureaucracy (starting us down this path a decade before climate alarmism was even mainstream) along with middle class welfare and many other far left policies.
    They have NEVER been better than Labor. Just much, much more confused about even the basics of politics.

    That is the appalling state of the conservative movement Steve, you are leftists who don’t know enough about what’s going on to even realize that much.

  66. sdfc

    Small government Tony wanted to the government to make a compulsory acquisition of Liddell. What a jerk.

  67. stackja

    Al Gore started the scam. Clintons/BO/RGR continued. DT is ending it.

  68. Jonesy

    Food for thought..In NSW, Tomago uses 12% of NSW 20000MW power capacity. Reliability of supply means that, if the ALP and the greens have their way and we go to 50% unreliability..that level will rise to 24% of the base load power output….OR…7600MW available for when the unreliables do not produce power..Do you think Tomago would be happy to get a call saying that power will be interrupted at any time on any day?

    Dispatchability means Tomago can pick up the phone to AGL and do a deal for 30 years of supply at a set rate. Tomago knows next week or next month exactly how much power they will get. Dispatchability means any time 24hrs a day…in the future! Not the next five minutes!…and bet on what the wind will do exactly in five minutes time? good luck!

  69. struth

    Al Gore started the scam. Clintons/BO/RGR continued. DT is ending it.

    Not here, unfortunately.

    The Liberal party are not the conservative movement, as proven again today.

    Fuck off Iampeter.
    How often do you have to be told?
    Try breathing through your nose.

  70. sdfc

    You’ll notice it’s the Liberal party not the Conservative party.

  71. Nato

    I can’t find much personal hope that PM Photios will be much better than Turnbull

  72. wal1957

    None at 8:53

    Sorry Aussiepundit, “Shorten will be worse” is not a vote winner. It just means, “hey we’re shit, but Shorten is shittier.”

    I am sick of picking the lesser of 2 evils. That is why I won’t be voting for the Lieberal party.
    If the choice is between Liebor (as if?), and the Lieborals, who look like they will be pursuing the same idiotic policies that Turdball was pushing, I will happily say no to both.
    I’d be happy to vote for a wombat at this stage…
    In fact I think the wombat would win if it ran as an independent!

  73. Crossie

    Who knew Nikki Savva commented here under Aussiepundit nic.

  74. Habib

    It was hatred, and it was personal. Too right old mate, when some bastard uninvited not only bums me without brylcreem, but doesn’t even have the common courtesy to offer a reach-around I take it personally.

  75. struth

    It was hatred, and it was personal. Too right old mate, when some bastard uninvited not only bums me without brylcreem, but doesn’t even have the common courtesy to offer a reach-around I take it personally.

    Very rugged.

    Do you mean Vaseline, or do you just need your arse hairs parted in the middle and neatly combed?

  76. Habib

    A little dab’ll do it.

  77. struth

    A little dab’ll do it.

    You’ll look so derrie’re, er …debonair

  78. Habib

    I’m considering a combover.

  79. Iampeter

    The Liberal party are not the conservative movement, as proven again today.
    Fuck off Iampeter.
    How often do you have to be told?

    Oh OK. So what do you say to the Australian Conservative party that have a whole shrine to
    Australia’s most left wing Prime Minister?

    Maybe its you who should fuck off and take your hopeless no-true-scotsman evasions with you.

    This site needs less confused leftists like you.

  80. mh

    What a dumb post by Aussiepundit.

    I bet he thought it was clever though.

  81. Indolent

    Everything you purport to stand for is jeopardised by Dutton’s incompetent, ridiculous, failed coup attempt.

    Have we already forgotten that it was Turnbull who started the ball rolling on Monday by calling for a vote? So much for a coup. If there was one, it was probably by Morrison putting Turnbull up to it in the first place.

    I heard Chris Ullman’s take on today’s events on Channel 9 News and he was practically foaming at the mouth. Does anyone recall his reaction when Turnbull knifed Abbott? Or was that a sad necessity?

  82. struth

    Howard wasn’t a true conservative but as for being Australia’s most left wing PM, you’re a tool.

    Poor trolling

    D minus

  83. J.H.

    Malcolm “Toxic” Turnbull is no longer leader and is relegated to the backbench…. I will now vote Liberal. I liked Scott Morrison before Turnbull poisoned him. It’ll be interesting how leadership sits with him. Will he carve his own path, or will he be herded by the media and the Political Correctness fascists?

    I really hope he finds a place on the Front Bench for Tony Abbott….

  84. None

    wal1957
    #2800593, posted on August 24, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    I hear you. It’s like being told we have a choice between dysentery and diahrroea. I am watching now how the media sychophants are rewriting Morrison’s history.
    1. Er no, he didn’t stop the boats. That was all planned a year in advance in opposition (ask Jim Molan, he was part of that team that put together the strategy). Abbott did all the legwork repairing relations with the Indos. All Morrison did was stand up and mouth off at the press. Easy peasy.
    2. Er no. He did sweet FA in Social Services. He ran dead. We now know why. He got wind of the plot to topple Abbott and he did what he did now. He sucked up to whoever he needed to to get the best outcome for himself.
    3. He was a good treasurer. Er no. He inherited a Hockey budget and tinkered with it. He has tinkered with it ever since. No real cuts to spending. No tax cuts in sight.

    Morrison is a party hack who has only every sucked off the public teat. He will ride on the coat tails of others’ successes. That’s all he knows how to do.

  85. Iampeter

    Howard wasn’t a true conservative

    Australian Conservatives seem to think he was the TRUEST of all.

    Seriously you need to look up the no true scotsman fallacy.

    as for being Australia’s most left wing PM, you’re a tool.

    And you need to stop posting on political websites.
    You don’t know anything about politics.

  86. Eyrie

    No Aussiepundit, Turnbull revealed his character or rather lack of it by the manner of his leaving. As if we didn’t already know.
    ScoMo might be a little better behaved when he leaves or is booted. Go Tony.

  87. sdaf

    Time for all the conservative parasites to stop clinging to the rest of the Centre Right Liberal party and go and do something on their own.

    They have little relevance in the community and should look beyond hard working liberals to try and give them the faux credibility they require to put their weary outdated political carcasses in the shop window.

    The spectacular success that is Corey Bernadi tells us all we need to know about why these limp political nobodies hang around tarnishing the name of the Liberal party and those of us who are truly of the centre right.

  88. Glen Turner

    Keeping coal in the ground is for winners. Digging it up, selling it or burning it are all for losers. The choice is clear, let’s not worry about a few coal barons having less wealth, lets be winners.

  89. Old Irrelevant me

    An all this time I was thinking we are seeing the reforming of the team for the next election. How they think the team to take the election should look. So we have the ball fumblers verses the ball droppers. And yet they all seem to play the game. For the most part I was thinking they were befuddling the ball droppers into not knowing whether to tackle the man or the ball. But what do I know.

  90. .

    Centre Right Liberal party

    Untrue for at least 50 years..

  91. .

    Glen Turner
    #2801669, posted on August 26, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Keeping coal in the ground is for winners. Digging it up, selling it or burning it are all for losers. The choice is clear, let’s not worry about a few coal barons having less wealth, lets be winners.

    Winners whose children can enjoy the Gen X novelty of a few blackouts a year where the family gets quality time and has to talk to each other, right?

  92. Neil

    Keeping coal in the ground is for winners. Digging it up, selling it or burning it are all for losers. The choice is clear, let’s not worry about a few coal barons having less wealth, lets be winners.

    To make steel you need iron ore + heat + carbon. Coal provides 2 of those things (heat+carbon) It is impossible to make cheap steel without coal. And it is impossible to make steel without carbon. You need a carbon source because the carbon becomes imbedded in the iron ore to create steel

  93. RobK

    Glen,
    Keeping coal in the ground is for winners. 
    Coal is one of our top export earners. It also pays massive royalties to States general revenue. It also pays hugely to subsidise RE such as the PV outfit you purchased, which was about half paid for by coal. The feed-in tariff which is opertunistically offsetting your powerbill is paid for by consumers who buy coal fired energy. Where is all this to come from if you leave coal in the ground. You are grossly deceived your idealism.

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