Open Forum: August 25, 2018

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  1. egg_

    I see the Bittered Sav is still pumping Turnbull’s tyres in The Australian this morning praising his skills as a political assassin.

    Waffleworth has got where he is by dragging people down and insider maaates ticket clipping. It is the one thing he is good at.

    KRuddy was a far better leader = more “functional”, presumably.

  2. H B Bear

    Election before Christmas.

    Yep that is the next stage in the media sideshow. A SloMo lead government lacks legitimacy. Exactly what they did to the Slapper.

  3. Gab

    Who leaked to the press about two week sago the lie that Dutton was ineligible because of some trust or business?

  4. egg_

    Abbott, a lethally brilliant opposition leader, flailed about as prime minister. It was tragic to watch a man who grew up politically at the feet of John Howard bunker down in his office, listening only to one person, flip-flopping over policy and letting down his base.

    Nailed it.
    A captive of his advisor.

  5. H B Bear

    KRuddy was a far better leader = more “functional”, presumably.

    Not sure about that. Plenty of stories around from when he was Goss’s Chief of Staff in Queensland. Just a defective individual. The Liars were prepared to hold their nose while he was popular – as soon as that went so did KRuddy.

  6. Fleeced

    Tony wasn’t listening to just one person – though that was the message at the time – he was hobbled by the Left faction of his party. He should have been more up-front about why he ditched stuff. Instead of saying, “The party isn’t supporting this, but I’m going to keep pushing it”, he toed the party line and pushed the “consesus” like a good soldier.

    Consensus! That’s the hallmark of schemers and plotters in any committee. They set the rules up-front that “it’s OK to dissent”, but once a “consensus” is reached you have to go along with it in public. It’s a scam to avoid accountability for what they know is a shit decision (or rather, share accountability – though funnily enough, the burden always seems to fall most heavily on those who opposed it!)

  7. egg_

    Election before Christmas.

    Pork Pie Man for Xmas?

  8. Roger

    Pig, trough:

    Having threatened to go to the cross bench Darren Chester now says he’ll accept a ministry.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Savva believes Julie Bishop is going to be appointed GG.

    Insulting to horses.

  10. calli

    Hawke started the consensus stuff in the early 80’s. Having created a toxic situation via rampant union activity, he then stepped in as a “saviour”.

    The pattern has been repeated ever since to the ruination of the country. The only blip on the decline was Howard’s first term and boy, was that demonised and resisted.

  11. Top Ender

    Agenda for Monday.

    Phone Parliament House and ask to be put through to Malcolm Turnbull’s office.

    Hope to be told “Mr Turnbull is not the Prime Minister any more.”

    Tuesday, see Monday. Etc.

  12. Trumble will return to lead the wet-libs after the inevitable split of the Liberal Party.

    The wet-libs will be the majority partner of the ruling wet-lib/ALP coalition.

  13. stackja

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  14. Farmer Gez

    ABC News Radio.
    News reader:
    “the removal of the Prime Minister brought about by conservative forces who could not stomach Turnbull”.

    And they wonder why.

  15. stackja

    Gab
    #2801066, posted on August 25, 2018 at 10:16 am
    Who leaked to the press about two week sago the lie that Dutton was ineligible because of some trust or business?

    Alan Jones said MT.

  16. Fleeced

    Oh, Turnbull will find some project to work on. To “serve the community” and all that. Not like firefighting or silly community stuff like that – big vision stuff. Republican movement? Nah – been done. Needs something bigger. Indigenous Recognition? Nah, that’s a losing game – and he has no interest. Environmental Lobbyist? Ah, yes… Gore made a bit of money out of that, didn’t he? Meanwhile, let’s take another look at those names.

  17. Roger

    …it is understood that former prime minister Tony Abbott will not be given a role in Cabinet.

    So much for binding up the wounds.

  18. Entropy

    incoherent rambler
    #2801077, posted on August 25, 2018 at 10:26 am
    Trumble will return to lead the wet-libs after the inevitable split of the Liberal Party.

    The wet-libs will be the majority partner of the ruling wet-lib/ALP coalition

    A quite plausible scenario. A coalition of the ALP and a new progressive party representing the richer inner city luvvies and public servants.
    The opposition would be a coalition of the national party and the AC. ONP and the Katters would fizzle out.
    The gripping hand though, which I believe to be a very bright side, is an ALP/progressive party Coalition would mean the death of the Green Party.

  19. Fleeced

    And so it begins:

    AS they mop up from a week of political chaos, some of Tony Abbott’s colleagues are urging the “wrecker” to quit.

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Meanwhile, let’s take another look at those names.

    Interesting link. Seems Andrew Hastie was one of the first to sign the petition.

  21. cohenite

    Has Scomo mentioned the neg yet?

  22. stackja

    ALP split in 1916, became Nationalists, then UAP. ALP split again in 1950s.

  23. H B Bear

    A coalition of the ALP and a new progressive party representing the richer inner city luvvies and public servants.

    I don’t think this is possible. While their policies are identical (for what that is worth) each branch of the UniParty needs the other to maintain the Kabuki theatre of politics. A split of the Lieborals in Opposition would be a real possibility I believe. It would be the right splitting though. SloMo isn’t going to put the band back together.

  24. Roger

    Meanwhile, let’s take another look at those names.

    “Warren Entsch – for Brendan Nelson.”

    ScoMo’s going to need a lot of bandages.

  25. Baldrick

    Who leaked to the press about two week sago the lie that Dutton was ineligible because of some trust or business?

    It was leaked the night before Malcolm caused his own downfall by initiating a LibSpill on Monday.
    Ask yourself, who had the most to gain from the leak and there you’ll find the culprit.

  26. Aaron

    “Warren Entsch – for Brendan Nelson.”

    Entsch is a gender-queer walrus but I think he’s identified one of the points where the Liberal Party lost its way in recent times. Whilst Nelson had his failings and certainly was from the ‘moderate’ wing of the party, his treatment by those within the party like Turnbull was a pure act of malice and political bastardry.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trumble will return to lead the wet-libs after the inevitable split of the Liberal Party.
    The wet-libs will be the majority minority partner of the ruling wet-lib/ALP coalition

    Not beyond possibility.
    In Germany Merkel and the lefties are in coalition, and pursue crazy climate crap.
    In Canada we have this today:

    Maxime Bernier’s Rebellion Comes From The Right To Upend Canadian Politics

    Maxime Bernier, an outspoken Conservative MP who has been systematically isolated from his party’s leadership, decided Thursday to express his spite by throwing a wrench into Canada’s political system. Should all go according to plan, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberals will now face two center-right parties in next year’s federal election — one headed by Bernier, the other by his former Conservative boss, whose party he now scorns as “morally and intellectually corrupt.”

    That bolded bit sounds awfully similar to some Aussie guy or other.

    That is the end result for ScoMo: if he doesn’t include the Right in his ministry eventually he’ll split the party just like the wet Canadian Libs seem to’ve done.

    If you don’t give the right of the electorate a home they’ll find one themselves. Like Trump, since half of America voted for him. Politics is the art of giving what the voters want. Presently they want immigration restricted and climate crap booted.

  28. Roger

    That is the end result for ScoMo: if he doesn’t include the Right in his ministry eventually he’ll split the party just like the wet Canadian Libs seem to’ve done.

    A house divided…

    It’s not just about appeasing the Right; they need to find common ground on their political philosophy.

    Absent that and a split is inevitable, which is what I expect. The Liberal Party has reached its terminus.

  29. Woolfe

    Les Deplorables
    ‏@woolfe

    Les Deplorables Retweeted George Megalogenis
    Are you saying Lucy wasn’t a woman?

    George Megalogenis

    @GMegalogenis
    George Megalogenis Retweeted ABC Politics
    The only thing Liberals still agree on: they don’t want a woman running the country.

  30. A quite plausible scenario. A coalition of the ALP and a new progressive party representing the richer inner city luvvies and public servants.
    The opposition would be a coalition of the national party and the AC. ONP and the Katters would fizzle out.
    The gripping hand though, which I believe to be a very bright side, is an ALP/progressive party Coalition would mean the death of the Green Party.

    Hmm, I was about to say, why would Labor agree to that? But you answered my question.

    Which side would big business support in that scenario? Bit difficult to see the unions and bosses on the same side.

    IIRC the leader of the leftist party ended up PM for the other mob after the two Labor splits. Turnbull must be having visions.

  31. C.L.

    …it is understood that former prime minister Tony Abbott will not be given a role in Cabinet.

    Of course. Why would you want a Rhodes scholar, boxing champ, football star, lifesaver, fireman and Labor destroyer in the Cabinet when you’ve got a Hillsong happy-clapper and a climate alarmist whose father calls him “darling”?

    Meet Australia’s new Prime Minister: The Hillsong Christian who made Lara Bingle famous, and married at 21 before trying for 14 YEARS to have his first child – and why he loves Tina Arena
    ———-
    The VERY ambitious J-wish immigrant whose dad calls him ‘darling’: How the new deputy Liberal leader wanted to drop out of school to play tennis
    ———-
    Those stories in the far left-wing Australian Daily Mail.

    The DM’s coverage is nothing short of fanatical in its hatred of non-Turnbullites.

    Another headline:

    Defiant Peter Dutton reflects on Liberal Party’s leadership turmoil – as his defeated camp warns of ‘open warfare’ if Scott Morrison doesn’t give hard-right MPs positions in his new cabinet

    And this is especially hilarious:

    Revealed: The ONE question Liberals still refuse to answer after Malcolm Turnbull was ousted in dramatic leadership coup that saw Scott Morrison snatch Australia’s top job

    The Liberal Party has been avoiding public inquiry into the reasoning that led to the sudden and vicious coup against ex-Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    With the majority of the party decisively choosing to avoid media outlets, in which they would be subject to public scrutiny, Minister for Social Services Dan Tehan appeared on the ABC’s 7:30 on Friday.

    Still, he refused to provide an answer to the one question on everybody’s lips.

    ‘Can you explain to the hundreds of thousands of Australian voters, watching this program tonight, why your party had to dump Malcolm Turnbull?’ host Leigh Sales asked.

  32. stackja

    Lib leadership shambles: How Aussie voters are to blame for ‘Messiah Complex’
    Charles Miranda, News Corp Australia Network
    August 23, 2018 10:18pm
    Subscriber only

    AUSTRALIAN politics is suffering from a misguided “Messiah Complex” search for the perfect leader and to some extent the public is to blame, leading political scientists have declared.

    And you would have to go back to the history books and the early 19th century days of the colonies to find such dramatic leadership turnover a generation of cynicism that created.

    University of NSW School of Social Sciences researcher Dr Mark Rolfe said the revolving door of leadership at the Lodge was now almost a permanent feature of Western democracies.

  33. stackja

    Grandmother killed when hit near RBT site, marking horror night on our roads
    AVA BENNY-MORRISON, Crime Reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    29 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A GRANDMOTHER on her way to pick up her grandson from a Roadside Breath Test stop has been killed, in one of a spate of fatal road accidents overnight.

    The 60-year-old woman was walking along Wyong Road at Berkeley Vale on the Central Coast when she was hit by a car last night.

    Police have been told the woman was walking towards the RBT site, where her grandson had been pulled up for allegedly driving alone on a learner licence.

  34. Snoopy

    ‘Can you explain to the hundreds of thousands of Australian voters, watching this program tonight, why your party had to dump Malcolm Turnbull?’

    “It pains me to say this Leigh, but unfortunately Malcolm Turnbull revealed himself to be an incompetent, duplicitous, narcissistic xunt.”

  35. P

    Fleeced
    #2801040, posted on August 25, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Oh, no – he’s much more weasely than that. He’s not merely an opportunist taking advantage of Dutton – he set it all up. This was his game. You can bank on it.
    Here’s how he got preselection in the first place.

    Thank you so much for the above link Fleeced.

    Here is a link to Scott Morrison’s relentless rise to power.

  36. stackja

    Can you explain to the hundreds of thousands of Australian voters, watching this program tonight,

    Were hundreds of thousands of Australian voters, watching?

  37. Arky

    Bit difficult to see the unions and bosses on the same side.

    ..
    You need to get with the program Monty.
    Big business and big union are on the same side.
    And they pick the raw materiel to make up big government.
    All usually against the intetests of most of the rest of us.

  38. Faye

    …it is understood that former prime minister Tony Abbott will not be given a role in Cabinet.

    That would have been a proviso for the “assistance” Morrison received from Turnbull.

  39. Snoopy

    Bit difficult to see the unions and bosses on the same side.

    Ah hahahaha kikikki snork.

    Stop it FFS!

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gramsci news.

    Israel Says Gaza Border Gunman Was Doctors Without Borders Nurse

    Israel said on Thursday that a Palestinian gunman killed by its forces on the Gaza Strip border this week was a nurse working for Medecins Sans Frontieres

    USAID Food Support Went To Syrian Al-Qaeda Via Catholic Relief Services

    The USAID Inspector General (OIG) has found that food aid intended for starving civilians in northern Syria was instead diverted by a USAID contractor — Catholic Relief Services — to a group identified by the U.S. government as a front for Syrian al-Qaeda.

    Italian Catholics Look to Matteo Salvini Over Pope Francis on Immigration

    Many practicing Catholics prefer the immigration policies of Italian Minister Matteo Salvini to those of Pope Francis, according to a series of recent polls.

    Conquest’s third law in action.

  41. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, that should be Conquest’s 2nd Law. Although the 3rd works too.

  42. At what point in time (even for 5 minutes) did Turnbull seem like a better alternative based on the criteria of “listening only to one person, flip-flopping over policy and letting down his base” ?

    Tel, this is a question that never gets answered.

  43. Arky

    Police have been told the woman was walking towards the RBT site, where her grandson had been pulled up for allegedly driving alone on a learner licence.

    ..
    Police now cause more chaos on the roads than they prevent.
    With 40km/h limits where ever they put their lights on and a penchant for bringing major routes to a complete standstill they are a bloody menace.
    Coming around a blind bend to find a kilometer long jam caused by idiotiotic girls and tattooed midgets conducting random breath tests is infuriating.

  44. OldOzzie

    Tony Abbott should return to cabinet, John Howard says – By Tess Livingstone

    Scott Morrison faced a mammoth task and should field the “very best’’ frontbench team, John Howard, the last prime minister who served a full term, counselled yesterday.

    “I have been of the view for quite a long time that Tony ­(Abbott) should be back in the ministry and I would be a hypocrite if I didn’t repeat it, but that is entirely a matter for Scott,’’ Mr Howard said.

    As the new Prime Minister sought to solidify the government and unify the Liberal Party, Mr Howard said it was no time for petty politics, which was not Mr Morrison’s style. Mr Howard said political ­labels were overused but Mr Morrison appealed to the Liberal Party’s “broad church’’, being socially conservative and economically liberal. Like Mr Howard himself? “I’ll let others decide that.’’

    He congratulated Mr Morrison and new deputy Josh Frydenberg, agreeing with Mr Morrison that, at 50 and 47, they were a “new generation’’ of leaders. Mr Howard liked Mr Morrison’s first press conference as leader because it was clear, direct and showed he shared Australians’ everyday values.

    The Coalition could win the next election, Mr Howard said, by uniting and concentrating on good government. But it had “a huge task ahead of it’’. The party would move on from its divisions, he said, as the conservative parties did after 1939 when Country Party leader Earle Page opposed Robert Menzies’ election as United Australia Party leader, accusing him of being a coward for not enlisting in World War I.

    Mr Howard was heartened yesterday by ACTU secretary Sally McManus’s hostile, swift reaction to Mr Morrison’s elevation. She urged workers to “mobilise like never before”.

    “That’s a very good sign they’re upset,’’ Mr Howard said. Labor’s subservience to the unions, which represented fewer than 15 per cent of workers, could be a strong line of attack for the government, he said.

    So should the opposition’s high-tax policies, especially its double dividend tax plans. As Sydney and Melbourne property ­prices fell and the Reserve Bank expected interest rates to rise, Labor’s planned crackdown on negative gearing would worsen the fall in property values, Mr Howard warned.

    Despite the bloodletting in the Liberal Party, he implacably ­opposed calls for rules to be changed for electing parliamentary leaders to make it harder to depose them.

    “The current rules have produced long periods of stability and long periods of instability,’’ Mr Howard said. “All governments face difficult periods of unpopularity and this is a test of the people-management skills of leaders.’’

    But it went without saying, he said, that if Mr Morrison won the next election, “the party should stick with him for the whole term’’. The mood and behaviour in the party had to change, not the rules.

    Members of parliament were best placed to elect their leaders, Mr Howard said. Margaret Thatcher, he said, would probably not have been elected to lead Britain’s Conservative Party under a system involving rank-and-file members, he said.

    Mr Howard was not giving policy advice. But on the hostility of some right-wing commentators towards Malcolm Turnbull, Mr Howard said it was “important that the prime minister front up to all media, however hostile’’.

  45. Chris

    Which side would big business support in that scenario? Bit difficult to see the unions and bosses on the same side.

    LOL. Rake!

  46. You need to get with the program Monty.
    Big business and big union are on the same side.
    And they pick the raw materiel to make up big government.
    All usually against the intetests of most of the rest of us.

    I must have just dreamed that union RC which was cooked up by bosses’ reps to stick it up the shop stewards.

    I am not going to dismiss the concept of the Accord Party out of hand, just saying that it would contain certain internal tensions. You know, the capitalist dialectic and all that. You may say there is no conflict, but clearly there has been over time.

    This vision you lot have of forming a True Scotsman Party where all the deplorables, reprobates and ne’er-do-wells of the world gather together to find their inner arseholes is all very well, but it’s not likely to lead to electoral success unless you subvert democracy entirely through vote suppression. Basically you are yearning for the world of Starship Troopers, where only people like you have the vote. That is a fantasy (hopefully).

  47. Mark A

    some food for tonight (ready cooked, I am not cooking on holiday).

    LOL, now I understand the reason for the endless travel and holidays.

  48. Fleeced

    That would have been a proviso for the “assistance” Morrison received from Turnbull.

    Maybe. Word is, they haven’t spoken for three years. I don’t think there’s much prospect for healing, there.

  49. This vision you lot have of forming a True Scotsman Party where all the deplorables, reprobates and ne’er-do-wells of the world gather together to find their inner arseholes is all very well, but it’s not likely to lead to electoral success unless you subvert democracy entirely through vote suppression. Basically you are yearning for the world of Starship Troopers, where only people like you have the vote.

    That is some of the stupidest commentary you are going to find on the Net. Conservatives are being silenced in their own party by so-called moderates that would easily be at home in the ALP, and with the full approval of the MSM. But the take home for monty is that conservatives are attempting to engage in voter suppression. FFS.

  50. C.L.

    Police now cause more chaos on the roads than they prevent.
    With 40km/h limits where ever they put their lights on and a penchant for bringing major routes to a complete standstill they are a bloody menace.
    Coming around a blind bend to find a kilometer long jam caused by idiotiotic girls and tattooed midgets conducting random breath tests is infuriating.

    Every so often a police officer is run over at an RBT. Killed in the line of duty, they say.
    More accurately, killed walking in the middle of the road at night.

  51. Bear Necessities

    I really think Peter Hartcher, Mark Riley and co should have a bex and a good lie down. They are sounding like children.

  52. Roger

    Word is, they haven’t spoken for three years. I don’t think there’s much prospect for healing, there.

    He needs to take the initiative, he’s the one who talked of binding up the party’s wounds.

    Those fine sounding words need to be followed up with actions.

    It’s now his responsibility to lead on this and set the example for others.

    Having done that he needs to unite them on core beliefs and convince them that what they hold in common is more important than what they differ on.

    Is that expecting too much? Probably.

    As I said above, the Liberal Party has reached its terminus and once loyal members and voters are now exiting the train.

  53. Stimpson J. Cat

    The VERY ambitious J-wish immigrant whose dad calls him ‘darling’: How the new deputy Liberal leader wanted to drop out of school to play tennis

    This is industrial strength f$ggotry.
    Outrageous.

  54. C.L.

    That video cataloging Comey and Mueller’s financial corruption is worth watching:

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5821221630001/?#sp=show-clips

    A pair of greedy hoods who belong in jail.

  55. Andreas

    I must have just dreamed that union RC which was cooked up by bosses’ reps to stick it up the shop stewards.

    It was unionists like Bob Kernohan and Ian Cambridge who called for the royal commission, dumbo.

    I must have dreamt union boss Dave Hanna having a whole fucking house built for him all paid for by Mirvac. “Really hard to see unionists and bosses in the same party” LOL.

  56. stackja

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    1 hour ago
    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!

  57. stackja

    The morning after: Turnbull’s post-PM stroll with Lucy
    The Sunday Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    LESS than 24 hours after he was ousted from the nation’s top job, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull spent a stress-free Saturday morning on a walk with his wife Lucy.

    Mr Turnbull was photographed with his wife and daughter Daisy leaving The Lodge in Canberra for a carefree stroll.

    Meanwhile, Australia’s new treasurer Josh Frydenberg joined his Howard-era counterpart Peter Costello for a coffee in Melbourne.

    Mr Frydenberg said they disagreed on footy teams and he’d be going somewhere if he could be half as funny as Mr Costello in parliament, but also said he would seek advice from the man who delivered ten budget surpluses in his time.

    “I will be turning to Peter for advice, as I begin my role as treasurer in the Morrison government. It is a great privilege to serve in this important position, and our job is to deliver lower taxes, more jobs, and to grow the Australian economy to create better standards of living for all Australians,” Mr Frydenberg said..

  58. Stimpson J. Cat

    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!

    I think it is just fantastic that the God Emperor recognizes Scotty’s Potential Greatness ™, unlike some of this website who falsely claimed it was possessed by his insipid predecessor.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – The problem is the union big boys have been taken over by the far left Marxists. Originally the Tolpuddle Martyrs, who kicked off the union movement, were Christians. These days the big unions are anti-Christian. If they just represented their wukkas and sought prosperity for everyone, rather than revolutionary Marxism, we wouldn’t have a problem with unions.

    Some of my family members were MUA. It was completely apparent their politics and aims. Representing the sailors was far down the list.

    I put up a post just now on Gramscian colonization of the Vatican and NGOs. Unions were Gramscized long before. Now they have started to go Green as well.

    Unfortunately the Unions don’t have an ASIC or a ACCC to clean them out from time to time. They should have such a regulator for their own sake – to save themselves from themselves.

  60. stackja

    Hurricane brings severe flooding to Hawaii
    Press Association
    August 25, 2018 9:26am

    Hurricane Lane has churned closer toward the heart of the Hawaiian islands as it weakened into a category two storm while still lashing the Big Island with raging surf, torrential rains and catastrophic flooding.

    The storm, with sustained winds topping 161km/h, was forecast to make its nearest approach to land at the weekend, bringing hurricane conditions to Maui and the US state’s most populous island, Oahu, starting on Friday night.

    “If you’re in Hawaii, it’s critical that you heed the warnings of local officials and stay aware of your surroundings,” Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Brock Long wrote on Twitter.

    By Friday morning, more than 60cm of rain had fallen in 36 hours on the Big Island’s windward side, where the National Weather Service reported “catastrophic flooding” and gusts peaking at 108km/h.

    A number of structures on the Big Island were destroyed and some residents were reported to be fleeing their homes, a weather service spokeswoman said.

    There have been several rescues of people stranded by high water on the Big Island since Thursday, mostly around its biggest city, Hilo.

    Flash flooding and mudslides on the Big Island have forced a number of road closures.

    Evacuations were also under way on parts of Molokai and Maui islands.

    As of 11am Hawaii time (3am AEST on Saturday), Lane was moving north at 8km/h and was about 245km south of Honolulu on Oahu.

    It was forecast to turn west on Saturday, lose more of its punch and move more quickly.

    The latest predictions from the Central Pacific Hurricane Center show the eye of the storm glancing past Maui and several other islands on Friday on its way towards Oahu.

  61. stackja

    Zimbabwean court upholds election result
    Farai Mutsaka, Press Association
    August 25, 2018 4:45am

    Zimbabwe’s constitutional court has unanimously upheld President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s narrow victory in last month’s historic elections after the opposition alleged vote-rigging.

    The court said “sufficient and credible evidence” had not been produced.

    Mnangagwa’s inauguration will held be on Sunday in the capital Harare, as a still deeply divided Zimbabwe moves into a new era after Robert Mugabe’s 37-year rule.

    Mnangagwa called for calm on Friday and told 40-year-old opposition challenger Nelson Chamisa “my door is open and my arms are outstretched”.

    Chamisa’s party said it would respect the court’s ruling but noted “the sombre mood in the country in the wake of today’s court verdict is in itself a telling statement”.

    Speaking on state television, Mnangagwa called the election the most transparent and credible in the country’s history.

    After the ruling a lawyer for the opposition, Thabani Mpofu, told reporters “it’s up to you to conclude” if justice had been served.

    “Good fight,” he added, walking away.

    The opposition Movement for Democratic Change secretary-general Douglas Mwonzora said it was the end of the road as far as the legal processes were concerned.

    “But we have other avenues … we can demonstrate,” he said.

    Security was tight in the capital amid concerns about possible unrest.

    After the ruling, the streets remained calm while some people celebrated outside the ruling Zanu-PF party headquarters.

    Opposition figure and former finance minister Tendai Biti, who was denied asylum in Zambia and then charged at home with inciting public violence in the protests two days after the vote, said: “We will take body blows but we will continue our fight for truth and justice.”

    The court on Friday said it was up to the opposition to prove its claims and it failed to do so, saying the best evidence would have been the content of sealed ballot boxes but that route was not pursued.

    The court ruling cannot be appealed against.

    The electoral commission had said Mnangagwa won with 50.8 per cent of the vote but later revised that down to 50.6 per cent, attributing the revision to an “error” but arguing it was not significant enough to invalidate the win.

    The court on Friday agreed. Mr Chamisa received 44.3 per cent.

    The opposition claimed the electoral commission bumped up Mnangagwa’s figures through double counts and the creation of “ghost” polling stations.

    It also alleged that some polling stations recorded more voters than those registered.

    The court on Friday said the electoral commission had “debunked to some degree” all of the opposition’s claims.

  62. Snoopy

    That video cataloging Comey and Mueller’s financial corruption is worth watching:

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5821221630001/?#sp=show-clips

    A pair of greedy hoods who belong in jail.

    Sorry CL, that just covers some of the stuff in the Reddit thread which Monty has already dismissed as a crackpot conspiracy theory.

  63. stackja

    M 2.7 – 12km SSE of Volcano, Hawaii
    Time: 2018-08-24 14:52:49 (UTC)
    Location: 19.328°N 155.193°W
    Depth: 7.1 km

  64. Roger

    These days the big unions are anti-Christian. If they just represented their wukkas and sought prosperity for everyone, rather than revolutionary Marxism…

    And like the nomenklatura in all Marxist revolutionary movements they live very well off the backs of the workers.

  65. Chris

    25 years of struggle for the MDC. Bloody heck.

  66. Robber Baron

    “I will be turning to Peter for advice, as I begin my role as treasurer in the Morrison government. It is a great privilege to serve in this important position, and our job is to deliver lower taxes, more jobs, and to grow the Australian economy to create better standards of living for all Australians,” Mr Frydenberg said..

    No mention of reducing electricity prices.

  67. Infidel Tiger

    Meet Australia’s new Prime Minister: The Hillsong Christian who made Lara Bingle famous, and married at 21 before trying for 14 YEARS to have his first child – and why he loves Tina Arena
    ———-
    The VERY ambitious J-wish immigrant whose dad calls him ‘darling’: How the new deputy Liberal leader wanted to drop out of school to play tennis
    ———-

    As I said yesterday, Australia is now led by a duplicitous cabal of homosexualists and happy clappers.

    Let us regroup and destroy them once again.

  68. H B Bear

    @GMegalogenis
    George Megalogenis Retweeted ABC Politics
    The only thing Liberals still agree on: they don’t want a woman running the country.

    Megagenius finds his natural level – regurgitating Left wing, paint-by-numbers pap.

  69. C.L.

    The Jeff Sessions situation is just flat-out weird by any standard.
    Has he had a stroke or something? He acts like a man who has been threatened.

  70. Snoopy

    The only thing Liberals still agree on: they don’t want a woman running the country.

    Says the man who used to bonk Palacechook.

  71. None

    Morrison will be a failure. He’s just a coat trailer. He is policy free zone – only rides on the back of everybody else. His first speech as p.m. should have alerted you to this fact. He’s ambitious so he would have had years to think about it and he said he had a week in which to prepare a speech. What did he come up with? “On your side”. Another meaningless motherhood statement that is about as ridiculous as Julia Gillard’s “moving forward”. If he had come out and said we’re going to drop Paris, kill the NEG, cut immigration and build a coal fired station he may have gotten something. But his refusal to actually name action items against which he can be judged says to me that he will be as useless as the waffler and if he has been unable to give those actionable items because of opposition in his party says to me the Libs are as useless as we have all been saying that they are.
    The other thing that should alert you is the media telling you he’s a great communicator. Never trust anyone who the media likes. I remember on this very blog warning that Morrison seemed to like the politics more than the policy when he was OL and government Immigration Minister. That warning stands.

  72. C.L.

    @GMegalogenis
    George Megalogenis Retweeted ABC Politics
    The only thing Liberals still agree on: they don’t want a woman running the country.

    Says the man who divorced Annastacia Palaszczuk after just two years of marriage.

  73. Bruce in WA

    Meet Australia’s new Prime Minister: The Hillsong Christian who made Lara Bingle famous, and married at 21 before trying for 14 YEARS to have his first child – and why he loves Tina Arena

    Hang about. He loves Tina Arena?

    I might just have to upgrade my opinion of him.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    M 2.7 – 12km SSE of Volcano, Hawaii
    Time: 2018-08-24 14:52:49 (UTC)
    Location: 19.328°N 155.193°W
    Depth: 7.1 km

    There’s an active submarine volcano near there: the next Hawaii island!

    Lō‘ihi Seamount

  75. Tintarella di Luna

    Morrison is a fat cowardly opportunistic weasel who didn’t have the guts to challenge Turnbull directly but let Dutton do the hard yards. Useless turd. This will not go well.

    In other words he’s just like Turnbull, Abbott worked himself to a standstill to win the 2013 election in a landslide — and unfortunately that landslide brought into parliament the neophyte unprincipled talentless numpties e.g. the feckless Craig Laundy, the craven Fiona Scott, the duplicitous Tim Wilson, and so on who all joined the already conniving occupants of the Black-handed winners’ circle/

  76. H B Bear

    …it is understood that former prime minister Tony Abbott will not be given a role in Cabinet.
    That would have been a proviso for the “assistance” Morrison received from Turnbull.

    Nothing surer. SloMo gets his first riding instructions.

  77. Boambee John

    Snoopy at 1206

    which Monty has already dismissed as a crackpot conspiracy theory.

    So it is true!

  78. Baldrick

    Are we having a Slotto to see how long SloMo will last?

  79. Senile Old Guy

    As I said above, the Liberal Party has reached its terminus and once loyal members and voters are now exiting the train.

    Correct. Morrison is another career politician. The LNP has simply replaced one left wing leader with another. His first speech was full of inane banalities.

  80. zyconoclast

    Is Frydemburgers a closet homo?
    Everytime he hugs a bloke he looks like he wants to boof them.

    Husic

    McCormack

  81. Chris

    Are we having a Slotto to see how long SloMo will last?

    Until he gets slotted, hey?

  82. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #2801153, posted on August 25, 2018 at 12:19 pm
    The Jeff Sessions situation is just flat-out weird by any standard.
    Has he had a stroke or something? He acts like a man who has been threatened.

    The Deep State at work?

  83. C.L.

    Diversity latest from the UK …

    Horror in A&E: Knifeman stabs innocent man outside a hospital and then ransacks a casualty waiting room – sending terrified patients running for their lives – before being confronted by a hero nurse.

    Name and picture at link.

    That nurse deserves a bravery award. She shepherded everyone out and then intervened again.
    Several young man scarpered – and didn’t help her.

  84. None

    Megalogenis was marrird to Anna Palaver? LOL LOL LOL

  85. Empire 5:5

    A coalition of the ALP and a new progressive party representing the richer inner city luvvies and public servants.

    Already happened. 2010-2013.

  86. zyconoclast

    Dangerous parasitic disease caused by ‘kissing bugs’ has sickened 300,000 Americans – and doctors warn it is spreading across the U.S.
    -Chagas disease is caused by a parasite transmitted by a bug via its feces
    -Most people don’t show signs of infection but 30 percent can develop life-threatening complication including an enlarged heart
    -An estimated 300,000 Americans in 27 states are believed to be infected with the disease

  87. C.L.

    If Britain can dole out damehoods to various BAFTA bints, they can give that nurse the highest decoration for civilian bravery.

  88. None

    “Sicial conservative and economic liberal” = Hillsong economics. You pay, I get rich.

  89. zyconoclast

    ‘Restoring mana’ can cut Māori prison numbers’

    Māori make up 16 percent of the overall population, but represent 51 percent of prisoners – and for women that increases to two-thirds of prisoners.

    Mr Little told Morning Report this week’s Criminal Justice Summit in Porirua had made a difference.

    He said a number of Māori who were at the summit were now going to meet to find solutions.

    “They’ve got some amazing ideas …I want it to come from them so that we are showing real partnership, State and Māori, to actually make a difference in that system.”

    He said Māori who wound up in the system tended to be disconnected from their hapu, Iwi, and often their whanau.

    “It goes to that fundamental question that Māori ask of themselves, ‘who are you?’ When Māori offenders can’t answer that question because they don’t know about their tīpuna, they don’t know where they’ve come from, where their ancestors came from, the area that’s influenced who they are.

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Several young man scarpered – and didn’t help her.

    Several young persons of the male gender scarpered – and didn’t help her. FIFY.

  91. Tom

    The Jeff Sessions situation is just flat-out weird by any standard.
    Has he had a stroke or something? He acts like a man who has been threatened.

    That’s because he has — by his boss, the deputy Attorney-General, Rod Jay Rosenstein, who, as Chief Executive of the Washington Mob (a.k.a. The Swamp), has the Attorney-General under house arrest, to be released upon the impeachment of POTUS45.

  92. zyconoclast

    A breath of fresh air or making a mockery of his office? The Lord Mayor in Doc Martens and a baseball cap who is dividing Sheffield
    -Magid is an ex refugee, who came to the UK aged five from Burao in Somalia
    -The 29-year-old has prided himself on being unconventional throughout term
    -Green Party Councillor was elected to office in May and attracted media glare

  93. H B Bear

    Are we having a Slotto to see how long SloMo will last?

    Peanut Head will finish him before the Lieborals get to have a go.

  94. Ivan Denisovich

    Says the man who divorced Annastacia Palaszczuk after just two years of marriage.

    And who, on Insiders, declared the Australian public really wanted an ETS and it would be electoral suicide for the Coalition to oppose it. Shortly after, Abbott rolled Turnbull and then destroyed Labor.

  95. Infidel Tiger

    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    2h
    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!

    He should save this tweet as a template.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    “They’ve got some amazing ideas …I want it to come from them so that we are showing real partnership, State and Māori, to actually make a difference in that system.”

    That is why they fail.

    HISTORIC! Black Business Ownership Under Trump Jumps 400% in ONE YEAR (19 Aug)

    Free everyone from the reins of the state and they’ll do it themselves.

  97. zyconoclast

    Brexit: Nationalism makes you weak, poor and morally insecure, EU warns

    “Nationalism makes us poor because its Siamese twin*, protectionism, will destroy the internal market and disrupt international trade,” Mr Timmermans said.

    “Nationalism makes us weak because its eternal seeking of enemies, its disdain of others, its need to feel superior makes cooperation with other nations to collectively guarantee our freedom and security much more difficult.

    “If nationalism makes us poor, weak and morally insecure, how can it claim to be patriotic? I maintain that nationalists are unpatriotic.”

    In a broadside likely to infuriate Brexiteers, the senior EU official added: “To be a patriot is to be a European. To be a European is to be a patriot.”

    *Where is [email protected] when you need him.

  98. DrBeauGan

    Hey, I just got a notification from gab.ai: president Trump has followed me!

  99. Baldrick

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!

    Have a go at the picture of Fatty Trump TheirABC used to go with that story.
    DTS writ large.

  100. Are we having a Slotto to see how long SloMo will last?

    Gotta call it MoLotto

  101. Tel

    Are we having a Slotto to see how long SloMo will last?

    I regard my existing Malotto entry as still live on the basis that ScoMo is (as others agree) largely an agent of Turnbull and very likely keeping the seat warm for another Turnbull comeback at some stage. There has not been any genuine change of leadership in terms of where Australia is headed.

  102. Eyrie

    “Says the man who divorced Annastacia Palaszczuk after just two years of marriage.”
    Who can blame him? The voice alone is grating.

  103. Farmer Gez

    Peter Hartcher reckons Labor are going to benefit from ScoMo holding a limb of coal, like it was the hope diamond in parliament.
    Hartcher could go off grid if he likes.
    There’s quite a few who would like to put his lights out.

  104. calli

    That nurse deserves a bravery award. She shepherded everyone out and then intervened again.
    Several young man scarpered – and didn’t help her.

    Do you remember the Lee Rigby horror where the Scout leader (female) confronted that dog as he was holding the still dripping machete? Unbelievable courage.

  105. Farmer Gez

    Limb?
    Lump of coal.
    Small phone fat fingers.

  106. cohenite

    Sorry CL, that just covers some of the stuff in the Reddit thread which Monty has already dismissed as a crackpot conspiracy theory.

    The interconnectedness of comey, mueller, brennan and rosenstein is irrefutable. And who appointed rosenstein who appointed mueller: sessions.

    Anyway I don’t know why some of you give any time to the troll, except for amusement purposes; after all any one who could say this and believe it is funny in a demented way:

    Bit difficult to see the unions and bosses on the same side.

    It’s fucking hilarious actually. Just ask tits.

  107. Vicki

    As the new Prime Minister sought to solidify the government and unify the Liberal Party, Mr Howard said it was no time for petty politics, which was not Mr Morrison’s style. Mr Howard said political ­labels were overused but Mr Morrison appealed to the Liberal Party’s “broad church’’, being socially conservative and economically liberal.

    As usual, the old man of the Liberal Party knows a tad more about these things than the armchair commentators. Morrison represents an electorate that is eminently “broad church” in more ways than one. It really is Middle Australia in the manner of many coastal & rural towns. He understands his voters perfectly, because, fundamentally, he IS one of them in so many ways. I believe that, if he doesn’t go the way of his predecessors, he will bring policy back into realm of the known and trusted. It is a bloody big ask… but …

    BTW No one has, in the charitable comments in this thread, noted that Morrison’s first priority will be the Drought. I, for one, being affected by this epic tragedy, am bloody grateful for anything that will alleviate the stress that is being endured.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    Internal polling* within the household reveals that I am a red hot lover, five star chef and all-round great guy.
    .
    .
    * Limited sample. Two abstentions.

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Julie Bishop off to ponder her future in politics
    Nick Evans, CanberraPerthNow
    August 25, 2018 2:01AM
    Topics
    WA News
    Perth
    Federal Politics
    Malcolm Turnbull

    Julie Bishop is weighing her political future despite an offer to return to the front bench of Prime Minister Scott Morrison, after being abandoned by her WA colleagues in the leadership vote.

    Ms Bishop put her hand up for the nation’s top job after prime minister Malcolm Turnbull was toppled by conservative forces, but she was knocked out in the first round of voting, receiving only 11 votes.

    While few believed Ms Bishop was a genuine contender for the leadership, given strong antipathy from the conservatives that destroyed Mr Turnbull’s hold on the leadership, her small vote surprised commentators and those close to her tilt.

    The partyroom ballot is secret, but it is understood that Ms Bishop’s camp believes all of her votes came from interstate MPs and Senators, and none of her 16 WA Liberal colleagues backed her bid for the leadership.

    After failing to win support in her bid to be prime minister, the long-serving deputy to three Liberal leaders (four if both of Malcolm Turnbull’s terms as leader are counted) over the past decade, did not put her hand up to run as the deputy for a fifth.

    Ms Bishop was praised by Mr Turnbull and Mr Morrison, who made it clear he would offer her a role in his new front bench.

    We can always hope, can’t we?

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Internal polling of the Essendon cheer squad has them in the final eight and raging flag favourites.

  111. Infidel Tiger

    The partyroom ballot is secret, but it is understood that Ms Bishop’s camp believes all of her votes came from interstate MPs and Senators, and none of her 16 WA Liberal colleagues backed her bid for the leadership.

    To know her is to never support her.

    A curious media that understood Australia could have a field day.

  112. Tintarella di Luna

    Limited sample. Two abstentions.

    but are you ahead? as in: internal polling says we’re ahead or are you a head?

  113. Some History

    What’s going on here?

    Guy in the light blue shirt informing the press re: Hurricane lane. He has repeating, worsening quick head movements from straight ahead to momentary glances down at his notes that have no synchronicity with what he’s saying. It’s all very “mechanical”. Is this guy a robot running poor “animation” software? Maybe he’s just nervous?

    From 2mins 25seconds to 3minutes 50seconds

  114. Leigh Lowe

    Internal Ba’ath party polling shows Sadam Hussein is days away from a glorious military victory over the armies of the infidel George Bush.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    This is the hard truth: Dutton and Abbott just removed Turnbull without ever having the numbers and everyone knows it.

    Media spin: Flawless victory for Turnbull!

  116. Tintarella di Luna

    who made it clear he would offer her a role in his new front bench.

    That is Turnbull would offer her a role in his new front bench via his agent SloMo – it’s sounding like the Free French including The Gall

  117. Eyrie

    So Julie’s closest colleagues can’t stand her? Tells us heaps.

  118. Boambee John

    Zulu at 1238

    Several young persons of the male gender scarpered – and didn’t help her. FIFY.

    Is there any evidence that they identified as male? They might have been identifying as one of the other 57 genders.

  119. Leigh Lowe

    but are you ahead? as in: internal polling says we’re ahead or are you a head?

    It was unanimous with a low sample within the margin of error.
    Mrs L abstained.
    Spot the Dog (not his real name) wouldn’t put his name on the poll for fear of having his pigs-ears withheld.

  120. Tintarella di Luna

    Spot the Dog (not his real name) wouldn’t put his name on the poll for fear of having his pigs-ears withheld.

    Leigh Lowe Spot the Dog is perfect material for politics he’s even the right species

  121. H B Bear

    The partyroom ballot is secret, but it is understood that Ms Bishop’s camp believes all of her votes came from interstate MPs and Senators, and none of her 16 WA Liberal colleagues backed her bid for the leadership.

    Hell of a vote of confidence in Skeletor after 20 years in politics.

  122. Des Deskperson

    ‘The Hillsong Christian who made Lara Bingle famous’

    The Lara Bingle ‘where the bloody hell are you?’ ad was one of the stupidest in a long line of stupid government ads. Apart from its puerile attempt to shock, its underlying implication – presumably unintentional – was that no-one actually wanted to come to Australia. One would have to be pretty dense not to have picked that up before its release.

    Although not quite as bad, perhaps, as the c.1986 ‘True Blue’ campaign, which attempted to encourage Australians to be more industrious and committed using a song that celebrated laziness and fecklessness as national characteristics.

  123. Infidel Tiger

    Turnbull and Bishop both destroyed on one week.

    We mustn’t get greedy. This is about as good as it gets in Australian politics.

  124. Confused Old Misfit

    one of the stupidest in a long line of stupid government ads

    My sisters in North America loved it.

    But then… they’re Democrats & progressive liberals.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    Expect plenty of puff pieces in the coming months about how great life after politics is going for Mal.

  126. calli

    A curious media that understood Australia could have a field day.

    They will when an election is called.

  127. Shy Ted

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!

    Aww. I was looking forward to
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to new Australian Prime Minister Maurice Sorebum. There are no greater friends than the United States and Australia!
    You’d think the man who delivered half as many deficits as Wayne Swan would get his own amusing moniker courtesy of someone who knows how to run a country.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    Expect plenty of puff pieces in the coming months about how great life after politics is going for Mal.

    Mal who?

  129. RobK

    Mrs L abstained
    Welcome to the club.

  130. Empire 5:5

    BTW No one has, in the charitable comments in this thread, noted that Morrison’s first priority will be the Drought. I, for one, being affected by this epic tragedy, am bloody grateful for anything that will alleviate the stress that is being endured.

    Lower taxes and less regulation? Don’t hold your breath.

  131. Snoopy

    Remember a little over a week ago the media was scandalised by Omarosa having a recording of Trump using the ‘N’ word?

    Where did that go?

  132. P

    Within hours of their resig­nations, the 13 ministers who had dared to challenge the Prime Minister were sent official notices from the head of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, Martin Parkinson.
    Their staff were warned that the department had been directed by the Prime Minister’s office to cut off access to all communi­cations, including emails and phones, immediately.

    Bolt 18 mins ago.

  133. Empire 5:5

    Mal who?

    Malcolm Turnbull, the bloke who conspired with Traitor44 (cameo only) to roll DJT.

    Coming to a theatre near you.

  134. Infidel Tiger

    Miranda Devine now breathlessly reporting and tweeting the views of the homosexual Stasi who run the NSW Liberal Party. The same people she has said for years are destroying the party.

    She has completely cooked it.

  135. Empire 5:5

    VDH on The Diversity of Illegal Immigration:

    Rural Fresno County used to be one of the most ethnically diverse areas in the United States. I grew up with first-, second-, and third-generation farmers—agrarians of Armenian, German, Greek, Mexican, Japanese, Portuguese, Punjabi, and Scandinavian descent.

    https://www.hoover.org/research/diversity-illegal-immigration

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We mustn’t get greedy. This is about as good as it gets in Australian politics.

    All we need is a Liberal Party committed to lower taxes, smaller government, reduced immigration and secure borders…….I know, I know…..

  137. calli

    Their staff were warned that the department had been directed by the Prime Minister’s office to cut off access to all communi­cations, including emails and phones, immediately.

    Caesar would be proud. It’s a wonder the communication didn’t come with a choice of dagger or poison.

  138. Vicki

    Lower taxes and less regulation? Don’t hold your breath

    Um..no…I was thinking more in the way of a declaration of a national emergency so that the ADF could assist in getting hay from WA & the NT (it is rapidly becoming scarcer to source in Vic & SA). Also coordination of rail freight from both WA & NT, rather than the more expensive road system…..BTW Malcolm’s drought grants to rural Councils worse than useless since they may be very well be seamlessly swallowed up in Council funds. In this desperate situation the Nats & handsomely funded Farmers organisations have been next to useless. Unlike the rest of the Cats, I am hopeful given this prioritisation pledge.

  139. Confused Old Misfit

    Vicki
    #2801235, posted on August 25, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Fodder stores in the Adelaide area are rationing hay & straw sales and the prices are way up.

  140. feelthebern

    The media class kept on saying how brutal politics is.
    No it isn’t.
    Running at a machine gun in Afghanistan is brutal.
    Having to put your name to a piece of paper & then a secret ballot in a heated room in Canberra is not.

  141. Makka

    Brutal assessment CL. But yeah, we have a sopping wet PM and lickspittle Deputy. It will be a left cabinet that will further alienate the base. The GE will see these impostors destroyed.

  142. Infidel Tiger

    Having to pay your power bill on a pension is brutal.

  143. Vicki

    Fodder stores in the Adelaide area are rationing hay & straw sales and the prices are way up

    Sadly, I know this, Misfit. Some parts of WA had a bumper season & Rhodes Grass hay is always available from NT – but we need to move this en masse & soon. Also the export of hay to China, which goes in huge amounts, should be looked into. There are hoards of bureaucrats in the halls of government – we need people to be allocated as if this was a war effort. The current situation is NOTHING compared to what the middle of 2019 will look like if we don’t get significant spring and early summer rain.

  144. H B Bear

    Miranda Devine needs to be sectioned – not so much for her mental health but for the rest of us. I hope her old man isn’t around to see this.

  145. feelthebern

    So someone grows hay.
    When the price goes up, they sell it.
    To the highest bidder.
    Domestically or internationally.
    I’m struggling to see the issue with that?

  146. Goanna

    The Liberals/Nationals have morphed into a latter day Australian Democrats.

    It will be a South Australian future.

  147. calli

    Good comments Bern and IT.

  148. Makka

    Can you explain to the hundreds of thousands of Australian voters, watching this program tonight, why your party had to dump Malcolm Turnbull?’ host Leigh Sales asked.

    Easy.

    Turdball was going to lose to Dutton. He was gone. A counter coup had to be arranged if the party was to remain left. Enter Scomo, Friedberg and the Stick Insect. Enough homowets in the Libs chickened out to stay with their team and thwart the Cons of the party leadership.

    Anyone who still thinks this latrine of a party is worth saving must be delusional.

  149. BrettW

    Ok now that we have a new PM how about the cabinet ?

    An obvious one for me is to replace Marise Paine at Defence. How about Moylan ? With Hastie as a junior. Gets the service community on side.

    What to do with the Minister for Submarines ?

    Keep Julie in Foreign Affairs but closely monitor her overseas donations. Dutton to stay at Home Affairs.

    Abbot in cabinet or not, that is the question.

    Unfortunately whilst Friedenberg is a likeable guy his NEG policy work does not give me faith that we won’t stop demonising coal and pushing windmills and solar.

  150. Keep Julie in Foreign Affairs but closely monitor her overseas donations.

    No

    Shuffle that boob to the back bench

  151. feelthebern

    Apart from Tony getting Aboriginal Affairs, there wont be much in the way of cabinet changes.
    The last thing you want to do is put a military man in as minister of defence.
    It would be like making Mal Washer the minister of health.
    Or Turnbull the minister of telecommunications.

  152. Confused Old Misfit

    I have very little hope that there is anything to be expected from the government in the way of relief. Those sales to china are probably locked in contract. I can’t see the Australian rail system being able to move the kind of quantities you need now, let alone what may be required next year, failing rainfall.
    Maybe Struth could tell us if the Australian Trucking fleet can fill the supply/consumption gap.

  153. Vicki

    So someone grows hay.
    When the price goes up, they sell it.
    To the highest bidder.
    Domestically or internationally.
    I’m struggling to see the issue with that?

    Many are paying double the normal price of hay. The cost of freight from interstate is, of course, a substantial reason for this. That is accepted & understood. However, the crisis needs lateral thinking – & mobilising rail freight is one way of reducing costs. On a large scale – the ADF could be enormously beneficial.

  154. Infidel Tiger

    Any government that has Marise Payne as a Minister deserves to die in a fire.

  155. Zatara

    Survey question from Snoopy’s 11:52 am ‘Even in Canada’ link….

    Are black tire marks on rainbow crosswalk vandalism?

    No, but the rainbow crosswalks are.

  156. OldOzzie

    From Andrew Bolt

    O NO, AND SHE’S THE GREENS’ EDUCATION SPOKESMAN

    It’s no typo when she makes the same mistake twice. And Sarah Hanson-Young is actually the Greens’s education spokesman, too:

    Hmmmm try again perhaps.. pic.twitter.com/45mVUkk8ov
    — Annika Smethurst (@annikasmethurst) August 24, 2018

    She is also a horrible mixer of metaphors:

    Spare a thought for Peter Dutton, played by Tony Abbott like a fiddle. Used, abused and spat out.
    — Sarah Hanson-Young💚 (@sarahinthesen8) August 24, 2018

    A fiddle that is abused and then spat out?

    Our future, right there. Under a Greens education system, we’ll have a generation of children with the approved opinions but no ability to express them in basic English.

    Still, given how primitive most Greens policies are, grunting should do.

  157. Farmer Gez

    So someone grows hay.
    When the price goes up, they sell it.
    To the highest bidder.
    Domestically or internationally.
    I’m struggling to see the issue with that?

    It’s all domestic at the current prices. The same for grain.
    China and Japan can access hay from Western US. They will be in for a good price rise as well with Aussie hay soaked up locally.
    I think the hobby and horse people in town are getting the drought message and are getting concerned.

  158. feelthebern

    Why is the ADF the answer?
    Which ones do you want?
    The trans brigade?
    Or the useful ones in Afghanistan hauling your feed?
    Serious question.

  159. Confused Old Misfit

    I’m struggling to see the issue with that?

    You’re not thinking through the medium to long term consequences and the effect that it will have on you. personally.

  160. feelthebern

    I don’t know too many people on the land.
    But the few I do have excess water & excess feed.
    Because they bought the water rights & stockpiled feed.

  161. Confused Old Misfit

    I think the hobby and horse people in town are getting the drought message and are getting concerned.

    You’re right. They are. Unless there are decent spring & summer rains in the right places the effects will be with us for the next decade. That will be just about when the next drought will hit (if the present one isn’t still with us).

  162. Vicki

    I can’t see the Australian rail system being able to move the kind of quantities you need now

    No – this situation is just unprecedented. Freight cars go back from WA to the east via Parkes relatively empty (goods mostly are freighted TO WA) & are therefore subject to a very cheap rate.

    Freighting of hay via rail can be achieved on a reasonably big scale & would also take a lot of pressure off our roads. It does involve a fair big of multiple loading – but – this is minor if feed can be obtained.

    As for the China contracts – you are probably right. But the use of the ADF has been very effective in natural catastrophes.

  163. feelthebern

    So we have price controls on feed?
    Will we get price controls on the price cattle & lambs can be sold at too?

  164. feelthebern

    Sorry, I thought this was a libertarian blog.
    &/or a economics blog.

  165. Makka

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    “These blood-suckers spread a dangerous illness called Chagas disease. The disease, which has spread to the U.S., was previously only found in Central and South America and Mexico.” #JustAMatterOfTime #ThankYouDemocrats

    These blood-suckers spread a dangerous illness called Chagas disease. The disease, which has spread to the U.S., was previously only found in Central and South America and Mexico.

    At least 8 million people have been infected in those areas, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s most recent report in December 2017. And an estimated 300,000 Americans in the U.S. also have the disease, a recent news release from the American Heart Association states.

    Abolish ICE!!

  166. Vicki

    But the few I do have excess water & excess feed.
    Because they bought the water rights & stockpiled feed.

    The things you read on this website!

    The only people in NSW & western Qld who have excess water are people who have bores & yes – many (but not all) pay for those rights. But in many places aquifers (which supply those bores) are beginning to dry up … or will significantly be affected if the drought continues.

    There are many who have stockpiles feed – this is a standard thing that the majority of farmers do. But most have limited capacity in barns (a very few use pits) & it is rare that one needs to stockpile more than 1 years feed. This drought is now up to 2 years in most parts of NSW & more in the far West.

    Feelthebern – the few farmers you claim to know – must be very serious corporate concerns or hobby farmers.

  167. Confused Old Misfit

    So we have price controls on feed?

    Are you suggesting that we have these now? Or are you suggesting that they be implemented?
    At this point, saving those in areas fortunate to have surpluses, the problem is getting the product to the consumption point in large enough quantities fast enough to avoid the livestock starving to death.
    Price, while an important factor, is for many secondary.

  168. While few believed Ms Bishop was a genuine contender for the leadership, given strong antipathy from the conservatives that destroyed Mr Turnbull’s hold on the leadership, her small vote surprised commentators and those close to her tilt.

    Paid political commentary in this country is some of the stupidest in the world. Insular, dim-witted, and incurious. Nothing will change in this country so long as they remain at court.

  169. cohenite

    What’s scomo going to do for small business?

    If he cuts electricity prices, negotiates a reduction/removal of payroll tax, takes on the unions and leaves super alone he’ll do alright. Odds he’ll do it. SFA.

  170. Farmer Gez

    The hay sheds are mostly empty in our area and those of us who have hay also have stock. North of the Divide in Vic the season is not guaranteed, so we hang on to core stocks just in case.
    If it rains at the end of next week I’ll let another hundred tonne go.

  171. zyconoclast

    Any government that has Marise Payne as a Minister deserves to die in a fire.

    It will need to be a big fire

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Paid political commentary in this country is some of the stupidest in the world. Insular, dim-witted, and incurious. Nothing will change in this country so long as they remain at court.

    None of them have ever ventured past the CBD or inner leafy suburbs. They have zero idea about business, family, religion, sport or life in general.

    Our political class are despicable.

    One day we will get to slit their throats. I hope I’m there.

  173. Vicki

    So we have price controls on feed?

    I don’t believe I have said that at any stage. In fact – I explained that freight costs are a legitimate cause of much of the current prices.

    As Misfit has said – the problem is obtaining supplies from the other side of this country.

    Again, as Misfit has said , the repercussions of this crisis will be longstanding. As grass has disappeared, rivers and dams have dried up & hay become unobtainable, graziers have progressively restocked – often valuable bloodlines that have taken generations to develop. These cattle are irreplaceable.

  174. zyconoclast

    Tesla to remain public after board meets with Musk

    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – The board of Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) said on Friday the company would remain public, following a tumultuous two weeks for the carmaker after its chief executive announced he was considering a deal to go private.

    Six members of Tesla’s board of directors said in a brief statement issued on Friday that the board had held a meeting on Thursday, and that efforts to take Tesla private were now cancelled.

  175. Infidel Tiger

    Any government that has Marise Payne as a Minister deserves to die in a fire.

    It will need to be a big fire

    The most dangerous fires are large grease fires.

  176. zyconoclast

    Turnbull’s exit a big threat to Liberal’s election fundraising

    A string of big-money fundraising events which featured Malcolm Turnbull as the star attraction will be cancelled or postponed, as Liberal officials raise concerns that any imminent federal election will leave a cash-strapped party exposed.

    The poor fundraising of some federal MPs is emerging as such a major problem that NSW Liberal president Philip Ruddock has threatened to “name and shame” electorates which are falling significantly short of contributions to the federal election effort.

  177. Senile Old Guy

    Mr Turnbull described his former deputy as a “very dear friend”.

    “She’s been an extraordinary foreign minister. I would say our finest foreign minister. And she has been a loyal deputy and just a great colleague and friend,” he said.

    While there has been no suggestion Ms Bishop is likely to quit her safe seat of Curtin, her long service in Government and considerable profile on the international stage would very likely put her in high demand for corporate roles, or a future overseas in international organisations such as the United Nations.

    Bishop, like Turnbull, has accomplished what? Political commentary in this country is useless.

  178. zyconoclast

    Vegan food makers look to escape ‘vegan’ label

    It has become the health trend of 2018, with an array of athletes and celebrities ditching dairy and other animal products for a vegan lifestyle.

    But food producers want to replace the word “vegan” with “plant-based” after experts have said the moral finger-wagging associated with veganism is putting people off.

  179. Vicki

    If it rains at the end of next week I’ll let another hundred tonne go.

    And we in NSW west would be very grateful, Farmer Gez!

  180. Talleyrand

    Any government that has Marise Payne as a Minister deserves to die in a fire.

    It will need to be a big fire

    How about spontaneous human combustion, it is more common amongst the inactive obese. Ms. Payne would provide quite the fire starter fuel load for a long smouldering wreck.
    Emblematic perhaps of the Liberal Party.

  181. Vicki

    graziers have progressively restocked

    Sorry – I meant “destocked”. The topic makes me emotional!

  182. Any government that has Marise Payne as a Minister deserves to die in a fire.

    It will need to be a big fire

    The most dangerous fires are large grease fires.

    I can’t stop laughing.

  183. While there has been no suggestion Ms Bishop is likely to quit her safe seat of Curtin, her long service in Government and considerable profile on the international stage would very likely put her in high demand for corporate roles, or a future overseas in international organisations such as the United Nations.

    Truly sickening. My gorge rises.

  184. Natural Instinct

    There was some postings about prices in emergencies just recently
    John Locke – Venditio, Year 1695

    Upon demand what is the measure that ought to regulate the price for which anyone sells so as to keep it within the bounds of equity and justice, I suppose it in short to be this: the market price at the place where he sells. Whosoever keeps to that in whatever he sells I think is free from cheat, extortion and oppression, or any guilt in whatever he sells, supposing no fallacy in his wares.

    .
    And then there was audio talk about rationing after a hurricane in New York and New Jersey.
    Munger on John Locke, Prices, and Hurricane Sandy, Nov 12 2012

    Mike Munger of Duke University talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about the gas shortage following Hurricane Sandy and John Locke’s view of the just price. Drawing on a short, obscure essay of Locke’s titled “Venditio,” Munger explores Locke’s views on markets, prices, and morality.

    Basically, when the price of hay goes up more suppliers enter the business with innovative ways of getting things to market. If the government suppresses prices then the new entrants wont enter market. And everyone buys rather than those that need the product the most (leads to shortages)
    If government controls purchases then hoarding occurs and people go and get some – just in case (leads to shortages)
    .
    No matter what the old agrarian socialist Alan Jones says, Governments stuff up when they “try to help”

  185. Goanna

    Our political class are despicable.

    One day we will get to slit their throats. I hope I’m there.

    Messy for the operators with all that blood.

    I’d opt for a Carbon Dioxide gas chamber.

  186. bundyrum

    Once slomo announces his ministry we will know exactly where we are headed….i predict we will still be heading to the cliff.
    Friedeggburger is an early indicator.

  187. struth

    Trains are not an option.
    And besides being not viable would end up being more expensive.

    Trucks also come back from the west for the cost of fuel by the way.
    I haven’t got time today to explain my reasoning but it’s basically triple handing trucks each end and trains don’t go to the farm gate.

    Hay has to be constantly tightened and adjusted and can’t be put on a train and not attended until the other end.
    Farming is a business.
    We’re all suffering.
    And in my business no one helps me out when the unforseen happens.
    And a prolonged drought should not have been unforseen.
    In good years instead of saving for the bad times new headers and millions of dollars worth of equipment is bought.

    I’m sorry.
    I’m just a little bit over farmers today.
    Just had one who could buy and sell me ten times over grizzling in my ear.

  188. Des Deskperson

    “..her long service in Government and considerable profile on the international stage would very likely put her in high demand for corporate roles, or a future overseas in international organisations such as the United Nations.”

    To write and presumably believe this sort of crap, you would have to be as lazy, unintelligent, incurious and shallow as Bishop herself is.

    And the UN bureaucracy is full of dolts, so in that sense she would fit in.

  189. BrettW

    John Jarrett charged with sexual assault from 40 years ago.

    Apart from the victim’s testimony I doubt any physical evidence available so many years later.

    Would he even have been charged if we did not have the MeToo stuff going on ?

  190. H B Bear

    Gold standard for disposing of the political or ruling class is still the Ceaușescu approach – up against the wall. Time proven.

  191. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2801265, posted on August 25, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    Trump Asks Pompeo to Cancel North Korea Trip, Pointing to Stalled Diplomacy

    CL, your thoughts please.

    Trump is just a Cheap Charlie. Everyone knows that all it would take is a couple of C5A’s full of used hundreds to grease the tracks.

  192. Frank

    Says the man who divorced Annastacia Palaszczuk after just two years of marriage.

    The guy that chopper (Eric Bana) shanks in the prison yard that has been covering up his bald spot with nugget boot polish. Then apologies to.

  193. Bruce of Newcastle

    Vegan food makers look to escape ‘vegan’ label

    They’re a crabby lot.

    Green Weenie of the Week: PETA. Again

    PETA put up a billboard urging Baltimore to stop eating crabs. It didn’t exactly go over well.

    PETA is coming after Baltimore’s beloved crab. The animal rights group selected the local crustacean as the mascot for its latest pro-vegan campaign. A billboard in Baltimore pictures a crab with the words, “I’m me, not meat. See the individual. Go vegan.”

    I am crab, see me raw!

  194. Natural Instinct

    ABC 730 was in good form last night with Laura Tingle showing her true colours from start to end. Words were carefully chosen to be emotive and backhanded insults of anyone not “of the left”

    “but key moderate Simon Birmingham rejects the idea”
    “push the party to the right into One Nation and Trump territory”

    Her summary at 37:30 would be great evidence for her instant dismissal for apprehended or demonstrated bias.

    “Australia may have dodged the sharp shift to the right afflicting democracies around the world just now, but there are no guarantees the forces that mowed down our 29th prime minister”

    Afflicting = present participle (of a problem or illness) cause pain or trouble to; affect adversely.
    “his younger child was afflicted with a skin disease”
    “he was afflicted with chilblains”
    synonyms: trouble, bother, burden, distress, cause trouble to, cause suffering to, beset, harass, worry, oppress, annoy, vex, irritate, exasperate, strain, stress, tax, torment, plague, blight, bedevil, pursue, rack, smite, curse, harrow, grip, visit, take;
    antonyms: comfort

    .
    It’s probably not worth complaining, but then again, Andrew Probyn was recently reprimanded

  195. Frank

    ..her long service in Government and considerable profile on the international stage would very likely put her in high demand for corporate roles, or a future overseas in international organisations such as the United Nations.

    They all tend to get shelved once there as low level petty functionaries and go nowhere. Gareth Evans or Rudd for example. Maybe the canapés are better than elsewhere but they can’t feed their egos at least. Australians are still minnows when it comes to competing with the crookedness that is the UN.

  196. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m just a little bit over farmers today.
    Just had one who could buy and sell me ten times over grizzling in my ear.

    Stimpys Fun Facts

    The suicide rate for farmers is significantly higher than the rest of the population for one simple reason:
    having to listen to other farmers complain.
    It’s a national tragedy.

  197. Stimpson J. Cat

    John Jarrett charged with sexual assault from 40 years ago.

    Thank God.
    I was worried it might be our next great Prime Minister, Bill Shorten.
    We can’t afford to lose him.
    The country needs him.

  198. .

    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

  199. cohenite

    John Jarrett charged with sexual assault from 40 years ago.

    Thank God.
    I was worried it might be our next great Prime Minister, Bill Shorten.

    Tits has the midas touch. I wonder if the alleged victim knows how blessed she is.

  200. Helen

    Strut, so am I. I feel sorry for them, but only in the sense of sorry for mugs, for not planning for their trigger points and acting. Drought didn’t happen in the last week and there would have been time earlier to make a plan and act, as any prudent business person should. NT is skin out of hay now. I was talking to a trucker last night and he told me it has been leaving the NT for $600,0 per tonne and not good quality. The Live Ex people did not forward contract supply and now there is no hay left for them. We got our years supply in early, thank the lord. Our daughter and SiL have planted dry and just gone to the bank for drought loan.
    And they are careful farmers. I am confident they will be right.

    But no- one can think they can pay that much for hay and keep their stock alive for another five minutes and come out the other end.

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

    Stop this talk Dot it’s disgusting.
    We will never become a Republic without Malcolm leading the charge.

  202. Pedro the Ignorant

    The very thought of La Bishop anywhere near the UN sends cold shivers down my spine.

    However, I think that she enjoys being a very big fish in a small pond in Oz, and given the enormous horde of kleptocrats that infest UN HQ, she would be be a very tiny minnow in a very large pond.

    A rank amateur in the OPM stakes compared to some of African and Middle Eastern looters and pillagers masquerading under the UN banner.

  203. Helen

    Struth, so am I. I feel sorry for them, but only in the sense of sorry for mugs, for not planning for their trigger points and acting. Drought didn’t happen in the last week and there would have been time earlier to make a plan and act, as any prudent business person should. NT is skin out of hay now. I was talking to a trucker last night and he told me it has been leaving the NT for $600,0 per tonne and not good quality. The Live Ex people did not forward contract supply and now there is no hay left for them. We got our years supply in early, thank the lord. Our daughter and SiL have planted dry and just gone to the bank for drought loan.
    And they are careful farmers. I am confident they will be right.

    But no- one can think they can pay that much for hay and keep their stock alive for another five minutes and come out the other end.

  204. calli

    Turnfailure would dispatch her before she had a sniff at that job, Dot.

    It’s his and he knows it.

  205. areff

    Catherine McGregor as G-G would be entertaining.

  206. Confused Old Misfit

    With small business and farming it’s always “They should have planned better! The fittest will survive! They’re always winging.”
    But when Big Business says “We need Government Help or else we’ll lay all these workers off!”; it’s all hands to the fiscal pump!

  207. feelthebern

    Name someone who would be a “good” governor-general.
    Should be a role model for the kids.
    Like Hugh Jackman, but a tad less gay.

  208. Helen

    Sorry for the double posting.

  209. Vicki

    I’m just a little bit over farmers today.
    Just had one who could buy and sell me ten times over grizzling in my ear.

    You are not the only one. A not so distant neighbour (very large landholding) has just returned from an OS trip (the second in a year) & has accepted a donation of 6 X 550kg hay. Yet there are quite desperate small subsistence farmers who missed out. Despicable.

    I guess there are miserable bastards in every walk of life. Just disheartening when there is genuine need.

    Hear what you have to say about handling problems in real freight. But did note a farmer who wrote piece in “The Land” recently who has been doing it successfully.

  210. vlad

    The single most deranged remark of PM Queeg’s farewell address was that Julie Bishop was Australia’s greatest foreign minister ever. That aside, all he needed to fill the role was the ball bearings and a mention or three of frozen strawberries.

    My first choice for GG would be Michael Kirby.

  211. Pedro the Ignorant

    Off topic, but Cats interested in mining news, especially plotting lithium trends, will be encouraged to hear that Talison Lithium, the operators of the South West WA Greenbushes tantalum mine have just signed a deal to build a $A23 million port facility in Bunbury.

    A fly in the ointment is that Talison’s planned $A500 million Greenbushes expansion plans are on hold pending the resolution of a rights dispute in the WA Supreme Court, to be held in October.

    Watch this space.

    We now return you to normal transmission.

  212. Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

    Words fail.

  213. Mark A

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2801316, posted on August 25, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    With small business and farming it’s always “They should have planned better! The fittest will survive! They’re always winging.”
    But when Big Business says “We need Government Help or else we’ll lay all these workers off!”; it’s all hands to the fiscal pump!

    Big business is being ‘owned’ or interfered with by governments of all colour, so it’s very likely that government actions give them problems.
    Only fitting that they receive more attention than others.

    Observation only, not approval on my part.

  214. My first choice for GG would be Michael Kirby.

    Am I in the right place?

  215. Confused Old Misfit

    Mark,

    I appreciate the qualification. I’m sure that’s how the biggies see it.

    However, having been both a farmer and a small business/operator I could, not without justification, make the same claim.

  216. H B Bear

    Catherine McGregor as G-G would be entertaining.

    Jebus areff don’t give them ideas. Although to borrow a Tiggerism we deserve this.

  217. mh

    Prime Minister Morrison has taken a call from Trump.

    I wonder if Joe Hockey gave Trump an overview of what has been happening in Canberra?
    Hockey would have enjoyed that.

  218. Frank

    Name someone who would be a “good” governor-general.

    Ben Cousins. The alternative diagnosis (like how AIDS used to be) for everything else is of course Waleed Ali.

  219. DrBeauGan

    My first choice for GG would be Donald Trump. And when he knocked us back, Dover Beach.

  220. bundyrum

    Dot just fuck off….the stick insect is an absolute sack of shit.

  221. Rae

    Sad. Sad. Sad.

    Malchiavelli outplayed the Dark Prince, and Cats have been crying in their beer ever since.

    But, never mind, my old dears. The salty taste of diluted Fosters Lite Ice might soon be just a fading memory. With only 3 minds to turn to the Dark Side, Tony’s stalking horse will likely challenge again. Soon.

  222. zyconoclast

    Catherine McGregor as G-G would be entertaining.

    A man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a horse.
    It could work.

  223. cohenite

    My choice for G-G would be Abbott.

    Just listening to talkback; the punters think scomo is a bit of a smart-arse.

  224. EvilElvis

    With small business and farming it’s always “They should have planned better! The fittest will survive! They’re always winging.”
    But when Big Business says “We need Government Help or else we’ll lay all these workers off!”; it’s all hands to the fiscal pump!

    Luckily those of us in small business also cop attitude from people because, you know, rich business fatcats. FFS

  225. zyconoclast

    So the endless next PM talk has morphed into the next GG talk.

    Strange days indeed.

  226. Rae

    Dame Michael Kirby, Governor-General, does have a certain ring to it.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There are many who have stockpiles feed – this is a standard thing that the majority of farmers do. But most have limited capacity in barns (a very few use pits) & it is rare that one needs to stockpile more than 1 years feed

    FWIW, I always had a years supply of hay and grain on hand. 2002 was the worst drought sine 1914 – we dug up silage that had been put down nearly thirty years before, and fed that out.

  228. MichelLasouris

    What a stunningly beautiful horse is Chautauqua and what an intelligent creature. Steadfastly refuses to be abused as a money making machine. The solution is of course to send the Trainer. Jockey and owner to the Knackers Yard to processed as pet meat. That’ll fix that. Heard of another horse that actually SAT in the starting stall and refused to chase the others, Terrific result. Pox on all animal abuse.

  229. Empire 5:5

    When contacted Friday, one FBI source said the Bureau “might have made payments to Danley but it is above my level,” the source said referring to access to the FBI’s confidential informant participant and payment records. The source said “bosses are concerned” with the new revelations about Danley’s financial relationship with the FBI.

    https://truepundit.com/feds-scramble-after-las-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-lists-fbi-as-place-of-employment-on-loan-application-she-might-have-been-an-asset/

  230. cohenite

    In 2015 Ted Cruz put up a Monckton graph showing the pause based on RSS, one of the 2 civilian satellite temperature records (UAH run by Roy Spencer and John Christy is the other one). Carl Mears, an alarmist runs RSS. After the Cruz display garnered great publicity for the sceptics mears, an avowed hysterical alarmist went off and adjusted the RSS record to make it the hottest of all the temperature indices. A great analysis by Monckton of this blatant corruption:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/21/temperature-tampering-temper-tantrums/

  231. cohenite

    Pox on all animal abuse.

    Is eating them abuse?

  232. Empire 5:5

    .
    #2801307, posted on August 25, 2018 at 3:27 pm
    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

    Nice trolling, fren.

    Just in case you’re serious, a quick snack of 9mm is in order.

  233. Infidel Tiger

    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

    STFU.

  234. lotocoti

    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General.

    Too late.
    The future vacancy was sorted, off Admiralty House, back in January. 🙂

  235. Empire 5:5

    lotocoti

    Who got the tap?

  236. Gary

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2801321, posted on August 25, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    Off topic, but Cats interested in mining news, especially plotting lithium trends

    As an ex miner and end user (drones) thanks.

  237. Infidel Tiger

    Dot is the king of bad takes.

  238. JohnA

    zyconoclast #2801278, posted on August 25, 2018, at 2:34 pm

    Turnbull’s exit a big threat to Liberal’s election fundraising

    A string of big-money fundraising events which featured Malcolm Turnbull as the star attraction will be cancelled or postponed, as Liberal officials raise concerns that any imminent federal election will leave a cash-strapped party exposed.

    The poor fundraising of some federal MPs is emerging as such a major problem that NSW Liberal president Philip Ruddock has threatened to “name and shame” electorates which are falling significantly short of contributions to the federal election effort.

    My thought would be that his departure might reverse the tide.

    But then again, many Cats have pointed out that ScoMo is his cat’s paw…

    OK, fine, fine, let them starve for funding.

  239. Fleeced

    Julie Bishop is well liked and would make a good Governor General. She is “relatable” and would make a good innaugural President when we become a republic.

    I hope this is sarcasm, Dot. Hard to tell, though.

    That said… could it be worth it to get rid of her from parliament? I dunno… I’d rather something else, but I’d consider it for that (and only that) reason. The media keep talking about how popular she is – they having got a fkn clue. Sky News keeps saying things like, “If they keep her as Foreign Minister, as they should…” As they should?! Mental midgets in the media… FFS!

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