Monday Forum: August 27, 2018

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1,468 Responses to Monday Forum: August 27, 2018

  1. Has Trumble buggered off yet?

    A sulphurous smell is still emanating from parliament.
    I suspect he is still there.

  2. Mother Lode

    Whether it’s true or not will be born out by the fact of South Koreans queuing at the border to migrate north.

    I used to know a guy who worked at the South Korean Consulate in Osaka. I think he was the second most senior there.

    Anyway, he was telling me about a time when he went to the North on some mission or other and how they driven around Pyongyang. He said all the people were immaculately dressed, all young, all in the peak of health. It was pretty clearly put on to make the right impression.

    A couple of years later he was escorting a guy from the North whom he had met on the earlier trip. As they were driving around Seoul the Nork asked him where all the sick and hungry people were – where did they send them, how easy was it to bring all these healthy people to Seoul.

    The infatuated urchin writing in the Honi Soit has the sad affliction of uni students who are convinced that their every thought is new and never been thought of before. They can’t contain their excitement and are impatient with people who are not astounded.

  3. struth

    Peter, congratulations sir,

    Get stuck in…………………….

  4. .

    Going off your last missive, I have no idea what we disagree about struth.

    The LNP is a gaggle of unprincipled careerists. That is the main problem. You might say the dumb ones play into the hands of the (left-wing) media who demand a policy for every issue, no matter how trivial.

    if you have a better explanation, it would be great to read it.

  5. Mother Lode

    Wow! First on page.

    There must be a reason this happened. Some profound working of providence has brought my post and the top of this page together.

    I think I am going to start a new religion.

  6. Mother Lode

    The reason women across the spectrum like Malcolm Turnbull

    So…it is only autistic women?

  7. Woolfe

    Well done Pete, eggggsellant news, so we have 2 real people and a lawyer!

  8. .

    Custard

    I reckon that engineer dude has a good turn of phrase. I reckon he has read the Cat in the past!

  9. feelthebern

    According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.
    Can any Cat comment on that kind of number?

  10. struth

    You just say black if I say white , dot.

    You’re a bitch like that.

    But I asked you not to say they are stupid, or scared of the media.

    You don’t bring down a nation’s power supply and expect the voters to be happy.
    So why are they doing it?
    What money is changing hands to enforce the will of the UN , a will against your voter base?

    What did Skeletor get in handing over our taxes?

    I bet it won’t be long before we find out.
    But it’s a story you’ll have to look for.
    The media won’t make it front page.

  11. struth

    She would have been a rousabout.

  12. Devine was unhinged on Kenny yesterday evening. She needs to get it through her thick scone that conservatives are not going to support someone that is by their own admission pursuing a progressive agenda.

  13. Jessie

    Reposting cohenite @8.01am Open Forum
    The US constitution is a beautiful thing; 7th circuit bans smart meters because they contravene 4th amendment:
    WIN! Landmark Seventh Circuit Decision Says Fourth Amendment Applies to Smart Meter Data

    Naperville Smart Meter Awareness

    A few comments on smart meters w/e post ‘Follow the Money for unreliables’.

  14. .

    What’s your point struth?

    I gave an explanation (pretty much complying with the constraints you specified), and all you did was sperge out and squeal that it was wrong.

    What is the reason? Corruption? You’re implying that.

    Fair enough, but what Australian politicians have actually been on the hook for this sort of thing?

    What did John Howard personally gain from going along with the Kyoto Treaty and leading to the rules that screwed over Peter Spencer?

    What plum job did Fraser get from instituting World Heritage areas?

    You haven’t presented any evidence, I prefer Hanlon’s razor. Maybe I should consider Heinlein’s razor.

  15. .

    The US constitution is a beautiful thing; 7th circuit bans smart meters because they contravene 4th amendment:

    Great news.

  16. Mother Lode

    I wonder how the Bittered Sav is taking it all.

    No doubt she is in the kitchen working on the recipe that helped her last time: Eye of toad. Tongue of newt…

  17. Delta A

    Well who would have thought

    Well done, Peter!

    I remember when you first mooted the idea of running for Parliament. IIRC, you received much encouragement. Now it’s happening.

    Successful or otherwise, at least you made the effort, unlike the multitude of whingers who gripe from their lounge chairs.

  18. Mark A

    struth
    #2802994, posted on August 27, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    You don’t bring down a nation’s power supply and expect the voters to be happy.
    So why are they doing it?

    This is a question I often asked and so far no real answer forthcoming.
    For me, “international obligations” won’t cut it.
    At least not until every nation abides by it to the letter, and even then I want out of it.

  19. .

    Indeed,

    Good luck to any Cat running for public office, be it Parliament, diplomatic corps, field grade and flag officers, the judicial bench or high civil service.

  20. Mark from Melbourne

    Well who would have thought

    Well done custard! Give ’em hell.

    I’m at a meet up to meet the Vic candidate next Tuesday… any other Cats going?

  21. Peter Castieau

    We have a meet the candidates gathering tonight at the Herdsman. 6.30pm

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.
    Can any Cat comment on that kind of number?

    The best shearer I ever saw could shear 200 in a day – Ley might have been a shed hand/roustabout, handling 500 fleeces in a day.

    Susan Ley. Wasn’t she one of the grandstanders trying to shut down the live sheep trade?

  23. Baldrick

    Peter Castieau
    #2802977, posted on August 27, 2018 at 2:40 pm
    Well who would have thought
    https://www.conservatives.org.au/peter_castieau_matt_brazier_join_conservatives_wa_senate_ticket

    Good on you custard. 👍

  24. Shy Ted

    I know it’s ABC and Oz’ least funny man but thanks to Michael Smith –

  25. Speedbox

    Good for you, Peter.

    I am a long-term member of AC and some time ago it crossed my mind to put myself forward as a potential Senate candidate. On reflection however, I decided that I had one or two skeletons in my cabinet that could potentially cause some ’embarrassment’ to the party. Nothing illegal – and I don’t (personally) give a rat’s arse – but I decided that I will assist at the next election in some other way.

    Good luck.

  26. candy

    Labor senator Patrick Dodson has savaged Scott Morrison for asking Tony Abbott to be an “indigenous affairs envoy”.

    Dodson is right, though he is a very abusively spoken man.
    The indig. don’t want a white man coming to their communities as some kind of “white special messenger” to tell them what is best. It would be a disaster and reflect badly on TA, even though he does mean the best.
    It’s a made-up job to manage TA out of parliament, same with Barnaby Joyce’s “special” job, to get out the remaining conservatives.You can trust PM Morrison as far as you can throw him.

    The best thing indigs. can do is stop drinking and stop abusing their own families, and go out and get a job. An envoy cannot enforce that. They simply do not want white people there.

  27. Leigh Lowe

    According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.
    Can any Cat comment on that kind of number?

    “Fleeces” is a mis-print.
    She was only there during crutching.
    Meant to read “faeces”.

  28. Mother Lode

    The indig. don’t want a white man coming to their communities as some kind of “white special messenger” to tell them what is best.

    Fine. Let them sort themselves out without the evil whitefella.

    And his money.

  29. .

    You are such an awful shit poster candy.

    I mean, it is actually beautiful in its own way. But you should be using green text.

  30. struth

    Ley was a dag picker.

    Isn’t that prophetic.

  31. Speedbox

    “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.

    I am certain she didn’t shear 500 sheep a day. Impossible. She may have handled 500 fleeces a day as a shed hand…….

  32. cohenite

    A graph showing the disproportionate number of muslim immigrants this country is importing:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155903850139370&set=pcb.10155903851669370&type=3&theater

  33. calli

    he likes to cook, is good-looking, sexy, knows how to flirt with and charm women, dresses and comports himself well, is highly articulate, loves his job whatever it is, knows how to smile sincerely, is well-read and can recite poetry

    He sounds like a nob.

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Labor releases ScoMo attack ad

    Labor has released an attack ad on Scott Morrison, calling him the man who “spent every working hour trying to give the banks a $17 billion tax cut”.

    “When it comes to what matters to middle and working class Australians, Scott Morrison is out of touch and only for the top end of town,” the ad says.

    A Labor spokesman said the party received $80,000 in small donations last week from people who were upset with the division in the Liberal Party.

    Deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek said the Prime Minister was “just as out of touch as Malcolm Turnbull.

    ”Scott Morrison wouldn’t know a fair go if he tripped over it. This is the bloke who cut schools, cut hospitals, cut pensions, all so he could give a tax cut to the big banks,” Ms Plibersek said.

    “Every time Scott Morrison has to make a choice he’s chooses banks and millionaires over middle and working class Australians.”

    From the Oz. The Labor Party plays the “politics of envy” card.

  35. Baldrick

    According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.
    Can any Cat comment on that kind of number?

    Skirting 500 fleeces in a day would be a stretch even for a burly roustabout.

  36. stackja

    Libertarian not be civil.

  37. .

    Stackja

    I’ve been civil all day. Civility is not about agreeing with people.

  38. stackja

    Zulu – ALP donations in small amounts. Very curious.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Candy has a bad habit of thinking the best of people.

  40. stackja

    I disagree without using swear words.

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The indig. don’t want a white man coming to their communities as some kind of “white special messenger” to tell them what is best.

    Pat and Mick Dodson have spent a lot of time, and made a lot of money, out of being the “big men” in some of those communities. They don’t want anyone asking too many questions about where all that money went.

  42. H B Bear

    Peanut Head will be going full Corbyn till the next election.

    Even Corbyn doesn’t go full Corbyn.

  43. DrBeauGan

    He sounds like a nob.

    Calli, on the other hand, has a healthy realism.

  44. According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.

    Must have been hauling the shearing shed’s output in a truck.

  45. .

    stackja
    #2803036, posted on August 27, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    I disagree without using swear words.

    That’s fucking nice.

  46. H B Bear

    I really don’t think I can handle a full term of the Slovenian Hag shrieking her head off. Any suggestions?

  47. Elle

    The indig. don’t want a white man coming to their communities as some kind of “white special messenger” to tell them what is best.

    But they happily take our money and lots of it.

  48. Mother Lode

    He sounds like a nob.

    Yeah, you can imagine what passes for charm and flirtiness in that verbally hamstrung milieu.

  49. struth

    I tell you, dot can make an ol’ truckie like me blush.

    There really is no need for that type of language, dot.

    FMD

  50. Elle

    Congratulations Mr Castieau!

  51. Chris

    Skirting 500 fleeces in a day would be a stretch even for a burly roustabout.

    Pffft.
    Lets assume its journalism, and wit to see her personally and ask what she actually said.

  52. Jessie

    Ah, Mr Dodson of section 15 MP and of Central (NT) and Kimberley Land Council stewardship (Councils Inc)

    Small memory Mr Dodson ……………….

    2008 Coroner calls for Aboriginal community to be shut down
    WAYNE BERGMANN (Executive Director KLC): Obviously there are a lot of communities in crisis, but we need to lift people out of the pressure that they’re in so that children can have opportunities for the future.

    It can change, but what you need is to get in there and support families, support the community, support the local structures.

    DAVID WEBER: The coroner has said it’s not acceptable for public funding to support a closed community for the benefit of a small number of families, some members of which are involved in paedophilia and alcohol abuse.

    Doesn’t the solution then come from the people in the community as opposed to the government?

    WAYNE BERGMANN: If the government and if the wider community wants to make a huge dent in dealing with Aboriginal people’s social, poor social and economic position, then they need to engage with Aboriginal people to make the hard decisions about how to address these problems in the long-term.
    Source: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=2ahUKEwj4yoC5v4zdAhWUad4KHXG4DzwQFjADegQIBxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fpm%2Fcontent%2F2008%2Fs2310149.htm&usg=AOvVaw1wVeVrEZBg-hHYjoD_14iT

    The real story: Hope at last for ‘hell on earth’

  53. stackja

    HBB – I wondered who was on the radio one day. The announcer said that the previous voice was Keating. If TB comes on use mute or volume. Eventually ALP will crash. Always have.

  54. thefrolickingmole

    Shedhand surely, shearing 500 per day makes you Jacky Howe.

    Still a decent hard job.

  55. calli

    Sussan Ley was pinged for travel rorting in Jan 17.

    I’d trust her on “shearing” prowess as far as I could kick her.

  56. stackja

    Much talk about women in politics. But little about Maggie T. Socialist women get a free ride.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shedhand surely, shearing 500 per day makes you Jacky Howe.

    Still a decent hard job.

    Jackie Howe shore 321 sheep in a day with blades, in the 1890’s. It wasn’t equaled with machinery for nearly 60 years.

  58. thefrolickingmole

    Peter Castieau, well done, now find some creative ways to afflict yourself upon the pompous know-nothings inhabiting the nether regions of Canberra.

    See if you can convince Derren Hinchs donors liver to do the right thing for Australia.

  59. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Refugee Council of Australia chief Paul “Poof” Power said settlement figures provided by the Department of Social Services showed the impact of this bias on Australia’s humanitarian program

    Is fixing like this an indictable offence these days? asking for a friend.

  60. stackja

    Sussan Ley is the only MP to travel too much?

  61. DrBeauGan

    stackja
    #2803058, posted on August 27, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    Much talk about women in politics. But little about Maggie T. Socialist women get a free ride.

    Maggie Thatcher doesn’t count, Stack. She was an honorary man. She certainly had more balls than the rest of her cabinet.

  62. Eyrie

    calli, makes her a crook in my view.

  63. Jessie

    Mr Patrick Dodson’s Land and Sea empire of which includes, since the closure of the hell-hole, Oombulgurri children and peoples, now likely dispersed.

    Balangarra Aboriginal Corporation includes Oombulgurri (Forrest River Mission + massacre) an entity seeking carbon credits, within Emissions Abatement ERF project – Balanggarra 1 Fire Project – cleanenergyregulator.gov.au

  64. amortiser

    So Gordon Bryant reckoned he took steps to fix the financial problems in his Dept of Aboriginal Affairs.

    I had some involvement in the Auditor General’s investigations into DAA at that time. One example gives a clear idea of the contempt that Bryant and his public servants had for taxpayers money.

    Gordon Bryant toured the country looking for ways to spend money. He arrived at the Ngukurr Aboriginal Community on the Roper River in the NT, hops off his plane and asks the local elders what they would like.
    They didn’t know so one of his lackeys suggested a sewerage system. Yes, yes they said.

    Gordon instructs his scribe to draft up a ministerial submission for the approval of the expenditure.

    “The Ngukurr Aboriginal Community requires a sewerage system. The estimated cost is $485000.

    Grant Approved.

    Gordon Bryant
    Minister for Aboriginal Affairs”

    This was sent back to Canberra while Gordon continued his tour.

    The cheque was duly issued with no other documentation to support the payment other than the approval.
    I couldn’t believe it when I saw the file. No detailed estimates, no timeline for completion, no details of who was going to do the work, just a ministerial approval!!

    I went to the Departmental secretary’s office and said something like you can’t spend public money like this. They agreed and undertook to get the cheque back. I wrote up my report and submitted it up the line and it ultimately got mention the the report to the Parliament among a litany of other examples.

    A couple of weeks later I got a call from the Secretary’s office advising that they had recovered the cheque and if I would like to sight it for my records before it went back to the Treasury.

    Sure enough, there was the cheque albeit a little creased and soiled addressed to the Chairman, Ngukkur Aboriginal Community for $485,000.00.

    A few days later there appeared in The Australian a short one paragraph story about a guy who went into the Border Store, on the Roper River to buy his soap, toothpaste, toothbrush etc. At the checkout, he tendered a cheque for $485000.00 and requested the change!!

    At that time, the Aboriginal Affairs budget was about $30 million. It is now over $30 billion. This has been going on, year in year out for 45 years and the position of Aboriginal people has arguably deteriorated.

    When those revelations came out, Bryant was moved to Minister for the ACT, the Departmental Secretary, Barrie Dexter was made ambassador to Yugoslavia and they doubled the Departmental budget!!

  65. Jessie

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha @ 3.45
    Pat and Mick Dodson have spent a lot of time, and made a lot of money, out of being the “big men” in some of those communities. They don’t want anyone asking too many questions about where all that money went.

    Yup, wouldn’t want Tony A interfering in Project Gulag Archipelago Eh.
    Kimberley Land Council (KLC & agencies) wrong about Sovereignty

    Ley must have been a rousie. On the table.

  66. Fleeced

    Congrats again, Custard. Stick it to ’em.

  67. stackja

    Divorce lawyers unhappy with court changes. Money? Or feminism?

  68. calli

    Sussan Ley is the only MP to travel too much?

    I shouldn’t think so, Stacks. I’m just very wary of any tyre-pumping story about such a person.

  69. Makka

    Attack is the best defence is the only strategy Abbott knows. Life is a bit more complicated than that.

    he could try occasionally try, say, the honey draws more flies than vinegar approach, just to be outre.

    Rubbish Cary. Attack and escalation is the only strategy that has any hope of success. Being nice has failed miserably. I’m realizing you’re just a troll.

  70. Damienski

    He sounds like a nob.

    There’s a perfectly logical and reasonable explanation for your observation

  71. Cary

    Morrison is speaking in tongues now he is outside his comfort zone of speed dial rote learned parliamentary diatribes. Embarrassing.

    “We’re a great country, people are going to get back to where they have to have their heads, where they should have their heads.

    “That’s where I’m gonna get their heads so we can get on and make this country even greater than it is now.”

  72. Speedbox

    According to AEMO, Wind and Other producing about 3.5% of demand.

    Keep on rockin’ renewables.

  73. Cary

    Attack and escalation is the only strategy that has any hope of success.

    good example of maxim it is better sometimes to keep quiet than speak and have your ignorance confirmed.

  74. thefrolickingmole

    Cary phoning it in from the imaginary zone were people commenting here think of the Libs as anything other than a rabble.

    Go on abuse them some more, they stink only slightly less than tits mcPeanutheads mob which is as low a recommendation as you can get

  75. cohenite

    Alan Kohler wrote this:

    But of course history will show that the NEG collapsed last Monday when the Abbott sceptics promised to cross the floor to vote against any attempt to reduce emissions.

    That started an avalanche that ended on Friday with Malcolm Turnbull replaced as Prime Minister by a man who had brought a lump of coal into Parliament in February shouting: “This is coal. Don’t be afraid, don’t be scared,” before launching into a tirade about the “coalophobia” of those opposite.

    He has now appointed a climate change sceptic and anti-renewables campaigner to replace Frydenberg as energy minister.

    This is excellent news.

    In my view, Morrison should now go all the way with President Trump and pull Australia out of the Paris agreement, giving up all pretence of wanting to reduce carbon emissions. Australians would then finally get a clear, truthful election, and could make a proper choice.

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10155903418794370?__tn__=K-R

  76. cohenite

    Morrison is speaking in tongues now he is outside his comfort zone of speed dial rote learned parliamentary diatribes. Embarrassing.

    “We’re a great country, people are going to get back to where they have to have their heads, where they should have their heads.

    “That’s where I’m gonna get their heads so we can get on and make this country even greater than it is now.”

    No it’s not, it’s pure Trump.

  77. pete m

    Custard, are you number 2 on the ticket?

    Is there any hope for a second senator from WA for AC?

    best wishes

  78. stackja

    ALP has wonderful history of thrift?

  79. Makka

    Kohler at least gets it.

    Spruik a cut immigration by 50% and lower taxes to no more than 20% and he could be on a roll.

  80. thefrolickingmole

    Really well written piece over at city journal.

    Well worth a RTWT.

    Fake Capitalism
    It’s not free markets that have failed us but government distortion of them

    Has some great figures.

    Housing subsidies that distort individual decisions also affect the biggest investment market in the world: the American housing market is worth $27.5 trillion—more than a tenth of the world’s $250 trillion in total wealth. The government, not capitalism, has determined the value of this market, which, in turn, helps determine the value of other markets: money that goes into this 11 percent of the global asset market can’t go into the other 89 percent. Home values also affect consumer spending. Someone whose home value is rising will feel freer to take on credit-card debt, for example.

    Perhaps American house prices should be lower, and people should put their savings into companies that create products and jobs. Or perhaps house prices should be higher, accounting for a growing population, and people should live in smaller homes, spaced more closely together. In turn, perhaps the price of Chinese stocks would be higher, reflecting future growth, if Chinese investors did not divert money into U.S.-backed American housing debt. No one knows, because market signals get obscured.


    Oil, gas, and coal get nearly $2 billion in direct annual subsidy, according to the Institute for Energy Research. Renewable energy gets $27 billion. Such subsidies distort energy investments, obscuring what kinds of investment the market on its own would support, and they have a dramatic effect on energy prices. When critics of capitalism denounce markets, then, they’re often making a category mistake.

  81. Peter Castieau

    Unwinnable second spot I’m afraid. Next time.

  82. calli

    In my view, Morrison should now go all the way with President Trump and pull Australia out of the Paris agreement, giving up all pretence of wanting to reduce carbon emissions. Australians would then finally get a clear, truthful election, and could make a proper choice.

    Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

  83. Infidel Tiger

    Why in God’s name does Sky continue to have Fiona Scott on?

    She was a one term pillow who only got ejected because of Abbott. She has no insight whatsoever.

  84. H B Bear

    Sussan Ley is the only MP to travel too much?

    Nope. Just to the wrong places.

  85. Cary

    You can find quoted interview with Morrison on last Saturdays ABC’s radio’s Australia All Over program.

    No it’s not, it’s pure Trump.

    Yep, pretty much the Chinese governments already stated view.

  86. Mark from Melbourne

    Unwinnable second spot I’m afraid.

    Maybe so, but you will play a big role in making the first spot winnable. Give ’em hell.

  87. calli

    Alex Turnbull blamed “rent-seekers” backing the coal industry for felling his father Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister, saying it’s “impossible” to vote for the Liberal-National coalition “in good conscience” because of its climate stance

    As opposed to rent seekers backing the ruinables industry. What a tool.

    I note the barb about the Liberal Party having no money. Yes Alex, your dear old dad bought his PM-ship. Classy. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Abbott ‘could have a problem’

    Indigenous Liberal MP Ken Wyatt has refused to endorse Tony Abbott for the role of special indigenous affairs envoy, warning if the former prime minister did not work with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people he would “have a problem” with the position.

    “Tony has been offered something by the Prime Minister, whether I agree or disagree doesn’t matter. If Tony accepts that then he’s going to have to work with Aboriginal people, listen to them, accept their perspectives and then bring that back,” Mr Wyatt told 6PR radio.

    From the Oz.

  89. Nick

    The bonus in Turnbull going is that we won’t have the media fawning over his extended family as they cement their roots into a range of positions within the community.

  90. None

    Morrison is clearly taken by Trump because he’s stopped himself from saying ‘make Australia great again’ and instead used ‘make Australian greater’. Mind you he only likes Trump’s politicking in the way he just flicks off the media. The difference between Trump and Morrison though is Trump has also got policy and has deeply thought about issues whereas Morrison is always and has been always a policy free zone. I keep telling you he prefers the politicking to the policies. It is day 4 and we have yet to hear policy direction from him. All we got is a tricky cabinet with the Photios- Turnbull fingerprint all over it.

  91. calli

    Just to the wrong places.

    Yes. To the Gold Coast, if I recall correctly, to check out some real estate. With a couple of spurious “meetings” thrown in to make it look legit.

  92. Speedbox

    I note the barb about the Liberal Party having no money. Yes Alex, your dear old dad bought his PM-ship. Classy.

    Indeed. I also note his comments about how hard it would be (for him) to vote Liberal. Moreover, that two terms of Labor should see renewables achieve a 40% threshold thus making any wind back impossible. (never mind the poor bastards who have to pay the bill).

    FM. What a tool. Just like his old man.

  93. Fleeced

    The bonus in Turnbull going is that we won’t have the media fawning over his extended family as they cement their roots into a range of positions within the community.

    Oh, that will still happen.

  94. .

    At the end of the day, I don’t really care per se what is spent on one particular thing.

    The problem is in total we have ongoing deficits, 600+ bn of Federal debt and 400bn+ of State debts.

    I’d say we’re better if we cap (for the State and Federal governments combined) revenue at 500 bn and cap spending at 300 bn.

    Pay it off over seven or so years and then cut taxes now and more when it is paid off.

  95. cohenite

    Turnbulls are a great family. All completely besotted with themselves and Gaia:

    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/can-t-vote-liberal-in-good-conscience-alex-turnbull-blasts-climate-stance-20180827-p50018.html

    People say turdball should have been in the liars party but I reckon this jerk and his seed are green elitists.

  96. H B Bear

    Doing business with the KLC. Blackfella mafia.

  97. None

    Mr. Castieau. Congratulations. I’ve been a bit critical of AC’s candidates in places but that West Australian ticket looks really strong. Well done. Don’t worry about being second place it will be hard to win a seat with the rule changes but just get out there and spruik spruik. Changing the order of business will be a long-term proposition. Get out there in the media, in the local paper, every community group you can find, Aries charity and parrot Church group comma every sporting club in Civic body. The LNP government has just switched to mini Malcolm and this is a golden opportunity to get an alternative message out particularly about what needs to be done with electricity and immigration.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yes. To the Gold Coast, if I recall correctly, to check out some real estate. With a couple of spurious “meetings” thrown in to make it look legit.

    Paid $795,000 “on the unplanned purchase” of a Gold Coast apartment, IIRC.

  99. stackja

    Laundry dried out. Why quit.

  100. None

    My ideal government would remove all references to indigenous and ethnic groups from law and government. What we have now is institutionalized racism.

  101. bundyrum

    Struth, don’t get into a silly discussion with the idiot dot….just keep up with your excellent posts.
    Don’t forget the idiot is a potential lawyer & an open borders loon….just like scooby.

  102. Dr Faustus

    Peter Castieau: Just a heads up here.
    If you follow the link to your name on the official Australian Conservatives webpage Peter Castieau & Matt Brazier join Conservatives’ WA senate ticket you end up with:

    The page you requested does not exist.
    Please check the address you tried to access and try again.

    Might be my browser (although Matt Brazier’s page loads)…

  103. None

    I’m so glad Wyatt and Dobson have shown yet again what nasty racist pricks many Aboriginal men in positions of power are ( some exceptions like Warren Mundine) So too are a lot of the faceless black thugs that intimidate and harass Aboriginal women like Jacinta Price. These arsehole men don’t give a s*** about 4 year olds getting raped in central Australia; it’s not their mob for a start and there’s no money or power in the endeavour either.

  104. H B Bear

    This is touching.

    Making some progress I guess.

  105. .

    bundyrum
    #2803113, posted on August 27, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    Actually, struth never got back to me on our “leaders” being corrupt rather than stupid or unprincipled.

    The absence of evidence is not proof but it tends to suggest my theory is more correct.

  106. stackja

    How many MPs arrange travel to places that are near other places? ALP seem to it alot.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    As opposed to rent seekers backing the ruinables industry.

    This article was interesting.

    Future of Wind “Uncertain” After Federal Subsidies Expire (25 Aug)

    Some turbines were only in service for 9-14 years before they were repowered: Repowering wind turbines means they are upgraded with newer equipment to make them more efficient. In 2017, 1,317 turbines, representing 2,131 MW of capacity were partially repowered. These improvements included installing larger rotors.

    According to the report, the primary motivation for partial repowering was to increase operational efficiencies while also re-qualifying for the PTC (emphasis added). The federal Production Tax Credit gives wind producers a tax credit for ten years after the wind turbine has been installed. Repowering gives wind turbines another 10 years of taxpayer subsidies.

    So windies in the US run their turbines for 10 years and collect a subsidy for doing so.
    The when the subsidy runs out they renovate them.
    So that they can get another 10 years of subsidy.
    Sheesh.

  108. bundyrum

    Naw dot….you have been an asshole for years…sorry.

  109. None

    Is there any event of Devine losing it last night?

  110. Cheryl

    Turnbulls are a great family. All completely besotted with themselves and Gaia:

    Is Turnbull Jnr, or his fund, still heavily invested in Infigen?

  111. Fleeced

    Remember that time somebody hacked into Christopher Pyne’s twitter account and “liked” a couple gay porn sites at 2am in the morning? Strange hack, when you think about it… did they ever catch the perpetrators?

    Just asking questions.

  112. max

    I decided that I had one or two skeletons in my cabinet that could potentially cause some ’embarrassment’ to the party.

    Catholic, eh ?

  113. Dr Faustus

    Alex Turnbull blamed “rent-seekers” backing the coal industry for felling his father Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister, saying it’s “impossible” to vote for the Liberal-National coalition “in good conscience” because of its climate stance.

    The coal industry is running red hot at present, despite Daddy’s windmill obsession.
    Goldman Sachs is somehow struggling on without his insight.

  114. John Constantine

    Robots for shearing are still too far off.

    Exoskeleton suits as are being designed for paramilitary Death squads to keep the streets safe for politicians might be the go.

    Having all the weight taken by the exoskeleton, and the drag done by motors means only the handpiece has to be weilded by skillfill hands.

    Imagine a pub full of pissed shearing teams, all still in exoskeleton battlesuits.

    That would take a bit of subtlety at closing time.

  115. saying it’s “impossible” to vote for the Liberal-National coalition “in good conscience” because of its climate stance

    This climate change nonsense has been nothing but trouble.

  116. Makka

    I see Merkel is following Trump’s lead and is backing Germany away from Paris Accord targets and now is telling the EU Commission on CC to take a hike on it’s latest emissions brain farts.

    Morrison: DUMP the Paris Accord and the RET. NOW.

  117. Leigh Lowe

    max

    #2803129, posted on August 27, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    I decided that I had one or two skeletons in my cabinet that could potentially cause some ’embarrassment’ to the party.

    Catholic, eh ?

    Out and proud heterosexual?

  118. Spider

    My God I didn’t realise that Margot Kingston was such an absolute raving nut job conspiracy theorist. Murdoch666. Sky666. Conservative voices.

  119. Myrddin Seren

    Indigenous Liberal MP Ken Wyatt has refused to endorse Tony Abbott for the role of special indigenous affairs envoy, warning if the former prime minister did not work with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people he would “have a problem” with the position.

    Like nobody with an ounce of common sense could not have seen that coming.

    Special PM ‘envoy’ to the indig being any Anglo male, let alone a conservative Catholic monarchist, was going to be a bone of contention.

    SloMo is either surrounded with confidantes with zero political radar, or they are setting TA up to get ambushed. Perhaps even physically ambushed if they go all BLM/Antifa on him.

  120. Inter-connectors down.

    On Saturday two states were cut off from the national electricity market as a result of transmission line outages between Queensland and NSW, and South Australia and Victoria.

    Can somebody please nuke the inter-connectors, permanently.

    It would force the deep south states (NSW, VIC, SA) to start making electrickery.

  121. Confused Old Misfit

    thefrolickingmole
    #2803088, posted on August 27, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Thank you ! Thank you! Thank you! Mole!
    I’ve been trying to hammer that through progressive heads for years now!
    More ammunition is good ammunition.

  122. H B Bear

    My God I didn’t realise that Margot Kingston was such an absolute raving nut job conspiracy theorist. Murdoch666. Sky666. Conservative voices.

    Too nutty for Fauxfacts – off the curve, a Black Swan event of loony. I’m surprised she isn’t a regular on Teh Dumb.

  123. Tel

    Imagine a pub full of pissed shearing teams, all still in exoskeleton battlesuits.

    That would take a bit of subtlety at closing time.

    Wait till they piss themselves and the suits will rust from the waist down.

    After that, giant electromagnet on a chain like at the scrapper’s yard.

  124. I decided that I had one or two skeletons in my cabinet that could potentially cause some ’embarrassment’ to the party.

    Hmm. There are advantages in owning a meat works or piggery.

    Nothing to put in the closet.

  125. Gab

    Malcolm et al still blaming everything and everyone else else for Malcolm’s disastrous 38 polls.

  126. Snoopy

    Paid $795,000 “on the unplanned purchase” of a Gold Coast apartment, IIRC.

    C’mon! Show me a Boomer who hasn’t been there. What d’ya reckon, IT?

  127. Woolfe

    Link works for me Dr F.

    And yea follow Kingston on Twitter and you’ll soon see she should be in locked up in a looney bin.

  128. Malcolm et al still blaming everything and everyone else …

    Shirley, it must be an even greater conspiracy than one that brought Saint Gough to his knees.

  129. thefrolickingmole

    Confused Old Misfit

    It is a good, well written piece with numbers and logical inferences.
    I didnt extract it but the bit about the epipens (for allergic reactions) having their prices massively hiked because of a combo of monopoly suppler and government regs is a prime example of why healthcare can be rooted by “good intentions”.

  130. JC

    Good link, Cohenite. Turnbull’s son is certainly a very lucky investor. Very lucky .

  131. Makka

    While happy to stick his Socialist nose into all manner of issues, on these explosive claims he will remain steadfastly silent?

    Pope Francis has said he would not respond to explosive accusations by a former top Vatican official that the pontiff had covered up sexual abuse, saying dismissively that the document containing the allegations “speaks for itself”.

    Talking to reporters aboard the plane returning to Rome from Dublin, Pope Francis said he would “not say one word” on the 11-page document, in which the former official says the pontiff should resign.

  132. calli

    Lots of breakdowns on Sydney rail. Luke Foley grinning about it.

    I wonder how much is go-slow (oe worse) by unions? I feel as though I’ve seen all this before.

  133. Tintarella di Luna

    Congratulations Peter Castieau — all the very best and power to ACTeam WA

  134. thefrolickingmole

    Jim Goad wins the internets for today with this title.

    The Tart Is Deceitful Above All Things

    Article itself is up Stimpys alley.

    The actor, Billy Bennett, had starred as Argento’s son in the 2004 film The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things, which Argento directed. Bennett was seven at the time, and among other things, the film required him to be raped.

    The pair continued a public friendship over the next ten years, frequently shouting out to one another on social media and referring to one another as “mother” and “son.”

    Then, when Bennett had just turned 17, he says he and a family member visited Argento in her Marina del Rey hotel room and at some point Argento requested that the family member leave the two of them alone. He says she first performed oral sex on him and then climbed on top of him for a round of intercourse.

  135. Myrddin Seren

    From Ye Olde Thredde

    Mr Greiner was also critical of sections of the media and the party for working against Mr Turnbull.

    “There would appear to have been a considered long-term campaign,” he said.

    “There’s been a concerted co-ordinated campaign between a very, very small number of members of the Federal Parliamentary Liberal Party and frankly a pretty small number of media that are concentrated in a handful of outlets or newspapers.

    “In my 30 or 40 years in public life I don’t remember a more blatant media campaign.

    “That’s I think one of the distinguishing features of this period is that the media, or substantial elements probably of the media have chosen not to just comment on the usual argy bargy of politics, but have actually been active participants in a campaign against the prime minister.”

    By the most amazing coincidence, this is exactly Chris Uhlmann’s pointed editorialising last week in Nein, when it all blew up for Waffleworth. One would almost think there is a set of scripted talking points being circulated.

    I think they are trying to suggest that Jones and Hadley are stirring up their ‘flying monkey’ listeners, and then claiming there is public unrest – that they have confected.

    The issue after the next election, if Labor and the Greens control both the House and the Senate, will be that they will revive the media control star chamber planned during Julia’s incumbency and use it to silence dissenting voices.

    Expect an assault on ‘fake news’ and ‘Right Wing Death Beast’ politicking masquerading as opinion. And Shorten and his communications minister can point to the President of the Liberal Party as bi-partisan support.

    Don’t be surprised if opinionistas wind up having to be vetted and receive some sort of license from the government before they are allowed to pontificate.

    So Laura Tingle will have a license to spout in her hand four micro-seconds after the legislation passes, and there will have to be deep, long and grave consideration given to the likes of Jones, Hadley, BoltA, the Outsiders and Peta before they can use public broadcast bandwidth.

    The irony will be Kermit Greiner wanting to rush to 7:30 Report to comment on this and finding himself on a pending list while his past history with ICAC is vetted in regard to his suitability to voice a public opinion.

    Well done SLFs – you have just about consigned yourself in to communications exile and a totally controlled media.

  136. hzhousewife

    A couple of years later he was escorting a guy from the North whom he had met on the earlier trip. As they were driving around Seoul the Nork asked him where all the sick and hungry people were – where did they send them, how easy was it to bring all these healthy people to Seoul.

    After she spent a few days in Brisbane and Sydney, I met my American friend in Melbourne for a few days about three years ago. “Where are all your homeless and poor people” she asked me. Most Australians would not believe that there are poor people in the USA.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Chris Uhlmann dials it up to eleventy.
    Trumble has now been “assassinated”.

  138. Baldrick

    Remember that time somebody hacked into Christopher Pyne’s twitter account and “liked” a couple gay porn sites at 2am in the morning? Strange hack, when you think about it… did they ever catch the perpetrators?
    Just asking questions.

    No Fleeced, he didn’t want it investigated.

  139. 2dogs

    I’m having difficulty believing the swing in today’s Newspoll, mainly because of the primary vote figures.

    Despite the large loss of support to the Libs, am I supposed to believe that it all went to the ALP? The primary vote figures are showing that the minor parties hardly budged. Really? I am not buying it.

  140. Baldrick

    Chris Uhlmann dials it up to eleventy.
    Trumble has now been “assassinated”.

    Remember, Trumble called for his own assassination to take place last Monday. He got his wish on Friday.

  141. Snoopy

    Who am I?

    G’day mate
    Maate!
    Mate
    Howyergoin mate?
    Maate!
    It’s tough, mate
    Maate!
    Mate

  142. Fleeced

    No Fleeced, he didn’t want it investigated.

    Very generous of him.

  143. cohenite

    Who am I?

    Everyone’s mate.

  144. Tel

    Remember, Trumble called for his own assassination to take place last Monday. He got his wish on Friday.

    Does that technically fall under euthanasia legislation?

  145. Makka

    SMH;

    Scandals aside, don’t hold your breath for a Trump impeachment

    mUnty, RUOK?

  146. Bruce of Newcastle

    I wonder how much is go-slow (oe worse) by unions? I feel as though I’ve seen all this before.

    Hmm.

    The next New South Wales state election is scheduled to be held on Saturday 23 March 2019

    It’s a mystery.

  147. Entropy

    Remember that time somebody hacked into Christopher Pyne’s twitter account and “liked” a couple gay porn sites at 2am in the morning? Strange hack, when you think about it… did they ever catch the perpetrators?
    Just asking questions.

    I read that as the penetrators. Sorry.

  148. Peter

    Posters are going up down here in Canberra for Sydney’s largest left wing conference – Socialism which is on from 31st August to 2nd September at Sydney University. Apparently you can network and plan with 500 other activists, and Dana Blanchard is a keynote speaker.

    Sometimes I wish that conservatives were violent thugs like leftists, because this looks like a target-rich environment.

  149. Gab

    Chris Uhlmann dials it up to eleventy.
    Trumble has now been “assassinated”.

    Funnily enough, Uhlmann made no such claims when turnbul assassinated Abbott.

  150. zyconoclast

    PSYCHIATRIST CALLS TODAY’S LEFT ‘MENTALLY ILL’
    ‘Liberal Mind’ author’s extensive study explains ‘Psychological Causes of Political Madness’

    With the American left, the Democratic Party and the establishment news media displaying ever-more bizarre symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome, here comes a veteran psychiatrist making the case that the mental-emotional world of leftists really is tantamount to a mental disorder.

    “Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the acclaimed book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”

    While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to “the vast right-wing conspiracy.”

    For decades he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

    Rossiter says today’s liberalism, as displayed by the likes of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton throughout the previous administration, as well as by today’s Democratic Party leaders and they increasingly hysterical “mainstream media,” can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

    “A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do,” he says. “A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do.”

    Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

    creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
    satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
    augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
    rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
    “The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”

  151. Rae

    According to twitter today, Sussan Ley “has been a sheep shearer hauling 500 fleeces a day”.

    Fake News.

    Sussan Ley has never been a shearer. Sussan Ley has been a shearers’ cook.

  152. H B Bear

    Despite the large loss of support to the Libs, am I supposed to believe that it all went to the ALP? The primary vote figures are showing that the minor parties hardly budged. Really? I am not buying it.

    Waffles already dropped a million primary votes in 2016. The Lieboral base left months and months ago. They are now dropping the rusted-ons.

    A poll taken in the middle of last weeks media storm is essentially meaningless. The test will be whether the primary vote moves up from 1 in 3 support for the Lieborals.

  153. Chris

    Sometimes I wish that conservatives were violent thugs like leftists, because this looks like a target-rich environment.

    You could just let a tr4nny know what the leftist thought about them, and stand back to film…

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dispute over Lauren Southern’s hefty police bill

    Tessa Akerman
    Reporter
    @TessaAkerman
    56 minutes ago August 27, 2018

    The organiser behind last month’s tour of alt-right commentators Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux is refusing to pay Victoria Police’s $67,842 bill for policing the event.

    Police wearing riot gear and carrying shields faced off with about 200 anti-fascist protesters who tried to stop buses entering the Melbourne reception centre when the speakers launched their nationwide tour.

    Mounted police and police dogs were also used to help control the crowd, which booed and swore at buses and cars bringing people to watch the event.

    Lawyers for Axiomatic Events have written to Victoria Police claiming the government appears to blame the victim in issuing the hefty bill.

    “Our event was a normal sized crowd in a venue that routinely hosts such crowds,” Axiomatic Events director Dave Pellowe said.

    “We broke no laws and went above and beyond to co-operate with police, and greatly appreciate the work they do.”

    He said the practice was victim-blaming not ‘user pays’.

    “The fair and just way to go about it would be to issue a $1,000 fine to every thug who blocked the highway, who abused and intimidated the mums, dads and kids who came along, who damaged private property and turned Melbourne into a Berkeley war zone,” Mr Pellowe said.

    Breaking news. Well done, the organizers. Lets see Victoria Police take them to Court.

  155. Makka

    “The fair and just way to go about it would be to issue a $1,000 fine to every thug who blocked the highway, who abused and intimidated the mums, dads and kids who came along, who damaged private property and turned Melbourne into a Berkeley war zone,” Mr Pellowe said.

    Well said Mr Pellowe!

    Did any Lib Party member back you up?

  156. JMH

    For regional television viewers who are waiting for the alternative, Sky News, I suspect free-to-air broadcasts will begin this Sunday. Tune to Channel 83 and for those in Northern NSW Channel 53.

    Up you ABC!

  157. H B Bear

    Winner!

    In diving terms that’d be a reverse Rachel Dolezal with pike.

  158. Geriatric Mayfly

    Gab
    #2803153, posted on August 27, 2018 at 5:53 pm
    Malcolm et al still blaming everything and everyone else else for Malcolm’s disastrous 38 polls.

    Looks like a book coming up and a world tour “promoting” it. A whinge and whine, finger pointing excursion, demanding the pity of onlookers.

  159. Chris

    zyconoclast, thats a good article.

    Have you seen the old Sarah Thompson one
    Raging Against Self Defense – A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality
    I found it very helpful – it distinguished defense mechanisms from mental illness, for a start.

    And reading a book right know on modern studies in habit formation and lizard brains… the drugs that lefties generate in their formerly perfectly ordinary brains when they go all shouty are utterly addictive rewards, training them never to think again.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Looks like a book coming up and a world tour “promoting” it. A whinge and whine, finger pointing excursion, demanding the pity of onlookers.

    This demands a supergroup … Hillary, Julia and Malcolm.

  161. Gab

    It will be called the Whine Tour.

  162. Leigh Lowe

    Funnily enough, Uhlmann made no such claims when turnbul assassinated Abbott.

    Blot has a little “compare and contrast” post on his blog today.

  163. LNP insider

    Congratulations on the preselection Peter. I have followed your posts and believe you are a fine candidate. I don’t have as much faith in some senate candidates in other states, but the WA team looks impressive.

  164. Gab

    Thanks, Leigh.

    Congratulations, Peter C.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    This demands a supergroup … Hillary, Julia and Malcolm.

    It will be called the Whine Tour.

    I was going to say the White Whine Tour, but the Red Whine Tour works better.
    Chateau Stalin 1953.

  166. Snoopy

    Can anyone explain why the appointment of a man to Cabinet who is not even qualified to sit in Parliament is not a scandal in the media?

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Turnbull to quit parliament within days

    Dumped prime minister Malcolm Turnbull is reportedly set to quit federal parliament this week and spark a by-election in his seat on October 6.

    Nine Network and the ABC report Mr Turnbull will quit parliament this week, after he promised he wouldn’t stay on the back bench.

    The move will leave the coalition one seat down for two sitting weeks, leaving new Prime Minister Scott Morrison in a precarious position with no majority in parliament.

    Breaking news. Lord Waffles throws his teddy bear out of his pram.

  168. wivenhoe

    Looks like a book coming up and a world tour “promoting” it. A whinge and whine, finger pointing excursion, demanding the pity of onlookers.

    Well of course there is a book coming up, I began writing it two years ago, it explains why after spending 2mil of my own money to get this cretinous bunch of losers over the line at the election, some obnoxious clowns want to question my brilliance, I can tell you without doubt, that Lucy and I are unanimous in our assertion that all you plebs should all be on your knees in gratitude,etc,etc, love, Mal.

  169. Breaking news. Lord Waffles throws his teddy bear out of his pram.

    Madame lucy has retired to the fainting couch

    Turdbull the younger is being comforted by one of mummy’s servants.

  170. Gab

    Dumped prime minister Malcolm Turnbull is reportedly set to quit federal parliament

    For heaven’s sake, somebody keep John Howard the F away from him.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Well of course there is a book coming up

    In which I explain how the Australian people proved themselves totally unworthy of my leadership, and how I accepted the Shorten’s Governments offer of Presidency of the new Republic.

  172. wivenhoe

    Dumped prime minister Malcolm Turnbull is reportedly set to quit federal parliament You mean that there is somebody out there that will be surprised about that?

  173. For heaven’s sake, somebody keep John Howard the F away from him.

    So true. Believe me.

  174. Baldrick

    For heaven’s sake, somebody keep John Howard the F away from him.

    Mandy Vanwarmer and John Hewson will steer him in the right direction.

  175. mh

    ABC 7.30 blaming the Downfall on Alan Jones. Never saw that coming.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    Turnbull out of parliament. John Hewson hardest hit.

  177. Empire 5:5

    Alex Turnbull blamed “rent-seekers” backing the coal industry for felling his father Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister, saying it’s “impossible” to vote for the Liberal-National coalition “in good conscience” because of its climate stance

    Salt the earth by flipping Wentworth on the way out.

    Nuclear projection. He sounds a bit nervous.

  178. Infidel Tiger

    All that false bonhomie after he was knifed… there’s only so long a sociopath can put on the facade.

    Abbott destroyed him again! Didn’t even have the numbers and he still destroyed him!

  179. cohenite

    Any one who doubts Pauline has got guts should consider she’s on Q& fucking A tonight. I’m in 2 minds about whether she should appear at this dump. I mean there’s no one there she could convert; the audience is wall to wall lefties, freaks, commies, malcontents, queers, lesos, greenies and soft-cock pseudo conservatives. Who in that bunch is going to vote for her and her constituency would have an esky through the screen if they watched it longer than 5 minutes.

  180. Infidel Tiger

    Australia’s new minister for population says the nation’s growing pains are caused by migrants choosing to live in Melbourne and Sydney and a backlog in major infrastructure rather than historically high immigration levels.

    Alan Tudge, who will take responsibility for cities, urban infrastructure and the new population portfolio, says his two greatest challenges will be finding the right incentives and conditions to encourage more migrants to settle in smaller capital cities and regional areas, and accelerating national infrastructure.

    A day after being handed the population portfolio, Mr Tudge said he was less wedded to a formal population target than the need to entice more migrants into cities such as Adelaide and regions “crying out for any warm body’’ to fill vacant jobs.

    Truly we are governed by the stupidest people on earth.

    How are you going to keep them in the regions? Microchip them? Ankle bracelets?

    As if the registration na don’t not have enough social problems. Filling them with third worlders is a recipe for disaster.

  181. stackja

    ALP call a vote when MT quits? Convention not applicable?

  182. Eyrie

    “As if the registration na don’t not have enough social problems”
    Autocomplete truly is a bitch.

  183. Death Giraffe

    migrants into cities such as Adelaide and regions “crying out for any warm body’’ to fill vacant jobs

    ..
    Unemployment rate in Adelade currently a touch under 7%.

  184. Gab

    Adelaide would make a lovely third world ghetto.

  185. Top Ender

    Tonight’s Q&A Panel

    George Christensen – Nationals MP for Dawson
    Cathy O’Toole – Labor MP for Herbert
    Larissa Waters – Queensland Greens
    Pauline Hanson – Leader, One Nation
    Bob Katter – Leader of the Katter’s Australian Party

  186. Infidel Tiger

    That was meant to say “regions”.

  187. H B Bear

    Turnbull out of parliament. John Hewson hardest hit.

    Worst Lieboral leader now up for debate? Or do you mean his place on the ALPBC speed-dial?

  188. Infidel Tiger

    George Christensen – Nationals MP for Dawson
    Cathy O’Toole – Labor MP for Herbert
    Larissa Waters – Queensland Greens
    Pauline Hanson – Leader, One Nation
    Bob Katter – Leader of the Katter’s Australian Party

    There are mental asylums with less crazy.

  189. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tonight’s Q&A Panel

    George Christensen – Nationals MP for Dawson
    Cathy O’Toole – Labor MP for Herbert
    Larissa Waters – Queensland Greens
    Pauline Hanson – Leader, One Nation
    Bob Katter – Leader of the Katter’s Australian Party

    Put me down for 42 in interruptions lotto, will you?

  190. Death Giraffe

    A better solution to Adelaide’s problems would be to deport the 7% unemployable rather than import more wastrels.

  191. stackja

    PHON on Q&A. She likes to play the left.

  192. Top Ender

    A pair of Vietnamese nationals found in mangroves in Far North Queensland went crab fishing with two Cairns men before being taken to authorities investigating the first people smuggling venture reached Australia in 1400 days, one of the fisherman says.

    As Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton confirmed the Vietnamese boat found on Sunday was suspected of being part of a people “smuggling venture,’’ Cairns air conditioner installer Peter Ward told of finding the men on the banks of the croc-infested Daintree River.

    “We picked up a couple hanging out of the mangroves there and brought them up the creek,” Mr Ward said.

    “We had a bit of a chat, got to know them a little bit, took our time and went crabbing.”

    He said the men did not speak English well, but “we got a few messages across” — including the fact that they would be handed over to authorities.

    “We apologised — ‘This is it, this is your last chance of freedom’. We just took our time.”

    He said he came across the pair near the mouth of the Daintree — not far from where a fishing vessel was found on Sunday morning.

    Mr Dutton acknowledged the fact the boat reached the mainland suggested there had been some sort of failure in border protection systems.

    Link with amusing comments

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Turnbull out of parliament. John Hewson hardest hit.

    After Fraser died, Hewson had a monopoly.
    He will now have to bone up on “competitive forces” from his Economics 101 texts.

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As if the registration na don’t not have enough social problems. Filling them with third worlders is a recipe for disaster.

    Given the lack of services, the last thing the regions need are hordes of unskilled migrants with very little English, and regarding unskilled work as “demeaning.”

  195. Baldrick

    ALP call a vote when MT quits? Convention not applicable?

    Liberals will still hold a majority 75/149.

  196. Jarrod

    I’m so glad organisers of the Laura Southern event are telling VICPOL to shove their 68k bill up their arse. If Vicpol want to fundraise out of these events they can direct their efforts to the groups organising the violent protests in future.

  197. zyconoclast

    Have you seen the old Sarah Thompson one
    Raging Against Self Defense – A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality
    I found it very helpful – it distinguished defense mechanisms from mental illness, for a start.

    No and thanks.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2803226, posted on August 27, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    Can anyone explain why the appointment of a man to Cabinet who is not even qualified to sit in Parliament is not a scandal in the media?

    Not sure.
    I am seeking a legal opinion from Laura Jayes QC.

  199. Top Ender

    “You peasants don’t deserve me! Look what I gave you: the world’s most expensive electricity, a new fleet of dud subs, an education system where the kids can’t count and spell but my goodness can they change genders! Lucy, we’re out of here!”

  200. mh

    Now 7.30 is promoting Spike Lee, emphasising he is a critic of Donald Trump.

  201. zyconoclast

    Can anyone explain why the appointment of a man to Cabinet who is not even qualified to sit in Parliament is not a scandal in the media?

    Because he identifies as someone who is qualified.

    (You are talking about Friedeggburger)

  202. zyconoclast

    Alan Tudge, who will take responsibility for cities, urban infrastructure and the new population portfolio, says his two greatest challenges will be finding the right incentives and conditions to encourage more migrants to settle in smaller capital cities and regional areas, and accelerating national infrastructure.

    So Lucy has resigned and gifted the job to the Tudge boy?

  203. Death Giraffe

    Let’s import more people so there are more jobs housing and feeding people and pretending to deal with the social problems more people bring. And my favourite: more people standing around dressed in flouro holding “I’m a bit slow” signs.
    Why not? With the higest energy prices anywhere, the worst education system outside of a country ending in “stan” or names derivated from “free” or “liberty”, ratbag unions, and spastic politicians, it isn’t as if we have a competitive advantage in anything else.

  204. Top Ender

    Just sent Q&A a question:

    “If we had nuclear power plants in the states we could use desalination plants and make the deserts bloom with fresh water pumped in from the sea. Why don’t we go with this approach?”

  205. Baldrick

    Now 7.30 is promoting Spike Lee, emphasising he is a critic of Donald Trump.

    Are there any other kind of celebrities with an opinion?

  206. 132andBush

    Shy Ted

    #2803196, posted on August 27, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    That’s so laughable and at the same time so sad.

  207. cohenite

    George Christensen – Nationals MP for Dawson
    Cathy O’Toole – Labor MP for Herbert
    Larissa Waters – Queensland Greens
    Pauline Hanson – Leader, One Nation
    Bob Katter – Leader of the Katter’s Australian Party

    With that crew interruptions will crack the ton surely.

  208. mh

    George Christensen – Nationals MP for Dawson
    Cathy O’Toole – Labor MP for Herbert
    Larissa Waters – Queensland Greens
    Pauline Hanson – Leader, One Nation
    Bob Katter – Leader of the Katter’s Australian Party

    The ABC should pay them to stay for a day or two and just keep filming them. The standard of ABC comedy will then lift. Ten fold.

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well it’s nearly twelve noon and it’s goodbye to Norway after two weeks here in the land of tunnels and bridges. Dey like their tunnels, says Hairy at the wheel after we have driven more than forty km in winding underground warrens through mountains if you tote the lot up for yesterday’s tourist vistas, although when actually on view the fjiords around Stavenger and the pretty drive back up the tourist route to Bergen were spectacular. Especially the constant waterfalls, some very high indeed. We heard that many Norwegian waterfalls have been turned into turbines, signal to the fact that they don’t mind destroying the environment when it suits them. You can round a pretty fjiord and suddenly be in the middle of a huge industrial oil and gas complex. Overall it reminds us of Hokkaido in Japan – very much a uniculture, tremendously neat and quite uniform in its architectural and painted style – all set in a pristine pseudo-wilderness of high mountains and encroaching cold. A good place for two weeks, after that tedium might set in and the alcohol prices start to look attractive regardless of price, as a first order necessity. Economists have a term for, when demand is such that you have no choice but to pay up, but I’ve forgotten what it is. I ask Hairy, but he simply says be careful what you say about economics on an economics blog, Lizzie. This after he booked us into another Airbnb place which was very nice indeed even if run by a total green and neatness obsessive. I had a ten minute lecture from mine host on the four kitchen garbage bins! 🙂

    We have started occasional use of Airbnb after Notafan’s recommendation of the system. It has its pluses and minuses; often excellent accommodation far cheaper than five star hotels but similar prices to many tourist hotels if you go for the better quality Airbnb’s; but you do get room to spread out suitcases for repacking and you can get some washing done. This one last night had fjiord views and quality furnishings but the same obnoxious stove topfingertop press glass hotplate system (even our green host couldn’t properly work it) so we had take-out Thai again. On our next stop, Bruges (driving today from Brussells), we are hotelling it in the city centre for 3 days. More convenient although they charge a lot for parking.

    Hope I am not ODing you on this trivial information but it may be useful for future travelling Cats.

  210. John Constantine

    Minister responsible for extending the population Ponzi scheme by dropping people from helicopters into the outback for the economic stimulus package effect.

    Comrades.

  211. zyconoclast

    Did someone say hate crime hoax?

    Children made up story about white man urinating on black child: police

    GRAND RAPIDS, MI — A story about a white man urinating on a 5-year-old black child and calling her a racial slur was fabricated, police said.

    Grand Rapids police and prosecutors late Friday, Aug. 24 said they determined the story was not valid and said no charges would be issued against a 60-year-old man arrested following the initial report on Wednesday.

    Police said several children, all 7 or younger, were playing together sometime before 6 p.m. Wednesday when one of the children urinated on the 5-year-old girl.

    Kent County prosecutors said the parents of the children, in talking with them, ultimately determined the children “concocted the story to avoid trouble.”

    “We appreciate the conscientiousness of the parents in bringing the matter to the attention of the police, and continuing to ask their children questions as new evidence was obtained,” prosecutors said.

    Prosecutors said the 60–year-old man had a “verifiable alibi” from other people who vouched for his whereabouts.

    The allegations, when first reported late Wednesday, caused concern across the community and NAACP leaders on Friday said the incident should be considered both a hate crime and sex assault.

    In the initial report, the children told police they were playing hide-and-go-seek along Courtney Street NW, just west of Tamarack Avenue, when a man urinated on the girl through a chain-link fence.

    The suspect was a person who lived in the neighborhood and did odd jobs.

    “The community and members of the media were understandably interested and concerned about the allegations, Kent County Prosecutor Chris Becker said.

    “But this is a prime example of why it’s so important to wait until all the evidence has been gathered and the criminal investigation has been completed before jumping to any conclusions,” he said.

    Becker said the children involved with making the complaint were first interviewed by trained specialists with the Children’s Advocacy Center, but they didn’t admit the truth until later when their parents talked with them further.

  212. Can anyone explain why the appointment of a man to Cabinet who is not even qualified to sit in Parliament is not a scandal in the media?

    A person does not have to be a member of Parliament to be appointed as a Federal Minister.

  213. Oh come on

    Cannot believe how butthurt the ABC is about Trumble getting the flick. The hysteria ABC journos are whipping themselves into is astonishing:

    Mathias Cormann could have made one phone call to change the course of history

    I saw a kid eat their own snot this morning. They could have changed the course of history by cleaning out the other nostril, too.

    What kind of rubbish headline is this? And does anyone seriously believe Probyn’s stupid story that Trumble’s downfall was such a close-run thing? You would think shrieking harpies like Probyn wanted to vote for Trumble or something.

  214. Entropy

    They haven’t exactly picked the rational side for the so called righties. In fact I would say there are five socialists there. Will no one speak for free enterprise?

  215. zyconoclast

    McCain’s Senate Seat to Be Filled by Gubernatorial Appointment

    Among the names that have been mentioned recently are Barbara Barrett, a former U.S. ambassador to Finland and the wife of retired Intel Corp. Chief Executive Craig Barrett, as well as Kirk Adams, chief of staff to Mr. Ducey. A name that has been floated as a long shot is former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods, who was close to Mr. McCain.

    Three other names have circulated: Michael Bidwill, president of the Arizona Cardinals and son of the team’s principal owner; Karrin Taylor Robson, who runs a land-use firm in Arizona and was appointed to the Arizona Board of Regents in 2017 by the governor; and Mr. McCain’s wife, Cindy. Her name is often mentioned, though conservatives have bristled at the prospect—a factor that could weigh on Mr. Ducey.

  216. Death Giraffe

    I was at a hospital a week ago. A massive building site.
    Looking around, my guess would be most of the construction workers were flown in from China.
    Meanwhile, four hour wait to see a doctor.
    Someone bloody explain it to me.
    I want to know.
    Exactly what benefits AT ALL to anyone currently living here is it to import more people?
    We can’t even train the people required to build the damn infrastructure.
    We are now so uncompetitive we lose out to the Chinese at buiding hospitals IN AUSTRALIA.

  217. .

    The suspect was a person who lived in the neighborhood and did odd jobs.

    Boo Radley?

  218. Oh come on

    Alex Turnbull blamed “rent-seekers” backing the coal industry for felling his father Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister, saying it’s “impossible” to vote for the Liberal-National coalition “in good conscience” because of its climate stance

    He never voted LNP anyway, and neither did his dad.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    So the ABC’s premise is that everybody knew Dutton never had the numbers but turnbull quit anyway?

    Bullshit.

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Marcia Langton accuses Jacinta Price of ‘legitimising racism’

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    1:17PM August 27, 2018
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    Marcia Langton has accused indigenous politician Jacinta Price of “legitimising racism” against Aboriginal Australians.

    The outspoken indigenous academic wrote of the “damage” Ms Price is causing within Northern Territory’s indigenous communities in a piece published in the left leaning Saturday Paper.

    Ms Price is an Alice Springs councillor and has won preselection to run for the seat of Lingiari in the next federal election by the NT Country Liberal Party.

    Ms Price’s advocacy for domestic violence, she herself is a survivor, has linked indigenous culture as a cause. She has simultaneously been embraced as a courageous voice and condemned for selling out Aboriginal people.

    Ms Langton writes that politicians are using Ms Price to make racially charged rhetoric more palatable.

    “Jacinta Price is useful to politicians. She legitimises racist views by speaking them against her own people. When she walks through Alice Springs and Tennant Creek with the prime minister, she waves a flag for the increasingly normal brand of race politics coming from Canberra.”

    Marcia Langton lives in Alice Springs, doesn’t she?

  221. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The longest tunnel we took was an old one of 11.5 km in length, quite dark and I was somewhat anxious that no other traffic was taking it either way as we progressed through it. It ended at a ferry terminal where we must missed the last Sunday ferry but one out of the place, as all the traffic was lined up in rows waiting, having done the tunnel in good time. We spent an hour hanging about for the late ferry and then drove to just outside Bergen for the Airbnb apartment. The host hadn’t had the foresight to put his street number on his house, which was perched on a cliff with what at first seemed no parking and quite a way off the street listed in the address. I was running around in the rain checking letterboxes while Hairy fumed in the car blocking the street. Perils of Airbnb, I guess.

  222. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dey like their tunnels, says Hairy at the wheel after we have driven more than forty km in winding underground warrens through mountains if you tote the lot up for yesterday’s tourist vistas, although when actually on view the fjiords around Stavenger and the pretty drive back up the tourist route to Bergen were spectacular.

    Blame Slartibartfast.

  223. Leigh Lowe

    So the ABC’s premise is that everybody knew Dutton never had the numbers but turnbull quit anyway?

    Mmmyes.
    No numbers in support on Thursday night but they voted 45:40 on Friday to ditch Trumble.

  224. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yes, indeed, Bruce. 🙂

  225. cohenite

    A person does not have to be a member of Parliament to be appointed as a Federal Minister.

    That’s not right.

  226. Infidel Tiger

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    My Brilliant Career
    101 Ways to Kill a Cat.

  227. Oh come on

    Ignore him, cohenite. He’s going to start crapping on as if Westminster conventions are irrelevant to the functioning of our parliamentary democracy.

  228. Leigh Lowe

    The next ABC storyline …

    “It was much easier to unseat Trumble than Abbott, because after the 2016 election it only required 43 votes to ditch Trumble, whereas in 2015 it required 50 votes to get rid of Abbott.”

  229. stackja

    zyconoclast – Michigan story typical of racism in USA today.

  230. zyconoclast

    Mollie Tibbetts and the Lower Alien Crime Rate Lie

    Open border advocates say that immigrants come here to do jobs Americans won’t do. Well, excuse me, but we have Americans all too willing to kill their brethren. Murder is a job American criminals are quite willing to do and to those who say immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than American citizens, I say that all that proves is that we have enough criminals — we don’t need to import more.

    The blood of Kate Steinle and Mollie Tibbetts and others is on the hands of open border advocates and the sanctuary city loons who provide no sanctuary for the American citizen victims of illegal alien criminals.

    Even if it were true that illegal aliens commit crimes, including murder, at rates lower than American citizens, that would be irrelevant. The murder rate for illegal aliens should be zero because none of them should be here and the indisputable fact is that Jamiel Shaw Jr., Kate Steinle, and Mollie Tibbetts would be alive today if the illegal aliens who slew them were still staring at the other side of a border wall liberals refuse to build.

  231. mh

    Document: Nancy Pelosi Will Destroy Trump Presidency with over 100 Investigations If Dems Win House

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/26/document-nancy-pelosi-democrats-will-destroy-trump-presidency-with-over-100-investigations-if-dems-win-house/

    The Dems have nothing to offer the American people.

  232. A person does not have to be a member of Parliament to be appointed as a Federal Minister.

    That’s not right.

    AUSTRALIAN CONSTITUTION
    64. Ministers of State

    The Governor-General may appoint officers to administer such departments of State of the Commonwealth as the Governor-General in Council may establish.

    Such officers shall hold office during the pleasure of the Governor-General. They shall be members of the Federal Executive Council, and shall be the Queen’s Ministers of State for the Commonwealth.
    Ministers to sit in Parliament

    After the first general election no Minister of State shall hold office for a longer period than three months unless he is or becomes a senator or a member of the House of Representatives.

    So for three months they don’t even have to be elected MP’s.

  233. calli

    Are you going to be true tourists and do the Bruges boat trip around the old city?

    It’s a beaut place. I remember it every time I come home – bought some ceramic house numbers in a matching frame. You can silicone them straight onto the brickwork.

    CalliTip – buy chocolate. Lots of chocolate. 🙂

  234. H B Bear

    Death Giraffe – move to Perth. The Chinks won’t be building hospitals here (or probably anything else) for a couple of decades after John Holland’s efforts at the Perth Childrens Hospital.

  235. I think we are going to have to give Trumble the wooden stake treatment.
    Or burn he sleeping quarters (the crypt).

    Any other tips for dealing with the undead?

  236. Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    I am the Greatest
    Turnbull is Greater
    Humble

  237. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    http://www.freespeechcoalition.info/thugsveto

    On – line petition, protesting the decision of Fatty Ashton’s circus, to invoice the organizers of the Lauren Southern tour.

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