Monday Forum: August 27, 2018

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  1. Makka

    A day after being handed the population portfolio, Mr Tudge said he was less wedded to a formal population target

    So there you have it. Our population ponzi madness will continue. Just a new coat of lipstick with another Ministry to fund from our overburdened tax dollars. How predictable.

    It’s fantastic news about Malturd pulling the pin. The quicker these frauds are taken down the better.

  2. H B Bear

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    Born to Rule
    Manifest Destiny
    Doin’ it for Daddy
    Take that Mum

  3. John Constantine

    Once the State drops people into the outback from helicopters for the economic stimulus effect, this then demands they are required to introduce internal passports and monitor movement within the state, so economic consumption machines do not desert their assigned posts and go AWOL.

    Roadblocks are only to check your Paperwork. If you have all your papers in order, you have nothing to fear.

    Comrades.

  4. John Constantine

    Because all Australians are equal to all other Australians, internal passports and travel papers cannot be restricted only to the newly imported voteherds deployed to welfare plantations in rural hamlets.

    All potential domestic terrorists from remote districts must apply for permission to make a trip to the Capital, or bunker down out where the trains don’t run.

    Comrades.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    “How I Fell in Love With Malcolm Turnbull”

  6. rickw

    Becker said the children involved with making the complaint were first interviewed by trained specialists with the Children’s Advocacy Center, but they didn’t admit the truth until later when their parents talked with them further.

    Experts in children V Parents.

    Parents 1, Experts 0.

  7. Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    I’m told he passed on Alpha and Omega. He said he found it too constricting. As an alternative he proposed Limitless .

  8. Dave in Marybrook

    Malcolm Turnbull memoir-
    Marvellous Me

  9. Steve trickler

    A very nice plummet to Earth.



  10. Rae

    Unwinnable second spot I’m afraid. Next time.

    Grigory M was so right.

  11. zyconoclast

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    Born to Rule
    Manifest Destiny
    Doin’ it for Daddy
    Take that Mum

    Is it just me or does that sound a bit off?

  12. Is it just me or does that sound a bit off?

    Yes. It reads better thus:
    Doin’ it for Dad
    Take that Mummy

  13. cohenite

    Such officers shall hold office during the pleasure of the Governor-General. They shall be members of the Federal Executive Council, and shall be the Queen’s Ministers of State for the Commonwealth.
    Ministers to sit in Parliament

    After the first general election no Minister of State shall hold office for a longer period than three months unless he is or becomes a senator or a member of the House of Representatives.

    That is a reserve power in circumstances where in effect there is no government; it applies to dismissal as well. The power has been used once: to dismiss the idiot Whitlam.

    Other than dismissing a government which does not have the confidence of the house(s) I can’t imagine an application of its positive power.

    But I guess you’re technically right.

  14. @GhostWhoVotes GhostWhoVotes
    #Essential Poll Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 45 (-3) ALP 55 (+3) #auspol

    Plummet to earth indeed.

  15. Armadillo

    Unwinnable second spot I’m afraid. Next time.
    Grigory M was so right.

    Creepy.

  16. .

    So for three months they don’t even have to be elected MP’s.

    Which simply means Parliament cannot be prorogued for longer.

    This is not a big deal.

  17. Top Ender

    Thanks for the petition link Zulu. Signed and sent it to nine other people.

  18. rickw

    Jackie Howe, looks like is record week might still be unbroken?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Howe

  19. John Constantine

    Outsiders touched upon the vicpol charging punitive financial vengeance upon the Lauren Southern event.

    How hard is it to imagine antifa activists hurling abuse at their enemies at the event while masked, then going to their Progressive government jobs in the morning and drawing up the paperwork to fine their enemies for the actions of the masked public service progressives themselves.

    Put on a mask, cause the disturbance, then use your disturbance to unleash the crushing power of the State upon those you hate.

    Like abc employees arranging for texts to be sent to the abc demanding the abc pursue the progression of totalitarian dystopic Stalinism.

    Comrades.

  20. zyconoclast

    Yes. It reads better thus:
    Doin’ it for Dad
    Take that Mummy

    Much better.

  21. But I guess you’re technically right.

    Yes, I am. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with the “technicality” of “reserve powers”. To this day Ministers are “appointed” by the GG. Dwell on it all for a moment and you may begin to realise just how precarious our position is.

  22. stackja

    1900 Australia was very civil.

  23. Frank

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

  24. Rae

    But I guess you’re technically right.

    Yes, I am. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with the “technicality” of “reserve powers”.

    And nothing to do with the reserve powers exercised in the dismissal of Whitlam.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

    Et tu, Antonio.

  26. stackja

    When exercising the executive power of the Commonwealth, in accordance with long established constitutional practice, the Governor-General acts on the advice of Ministers who are responsible to the Parliament. That advice is conveyed largely through the Federal Executive Council. The Governor-General presides at meetings of the Executive Council which are attended by at least two members of the Council.

  27. .

    Not that precarious. The GG can be sacked and then the administrator steps in.

    I’m more concerned with the lack of oversight regarding Federal appointments, particularly judicial and viceregal appointments.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

    Well said. I’ll pay that one.

  29. Geriatric Mayfly

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

    Rings a bell. A woman in the background who wanted to be made a goddess.

  30. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    Et tu, ScoMo?

  31. Leigh Lowe

    zyconoclast

    #2803356, posted on August 27, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    Met opens 100th violent death investigation in London this year

    It might get to 101
    Tulse Hill stabbing: Young man fighting for life after being knifed in broad daylight in south London

    Rivers of blood, dare I say.

  32. And nothing to do with the reserve powers exercised in the dismissal of Whitlam.

    The actual dismissal of Whitlam as PM had nothing to do with “reserve powers”
    The replacement of the Labor government by a Liberal one did.
    They are not the same thing. Not even close.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Dreams of My Mother.

  34. stackja

    “I suppose you are quite a great lawyer?” I said, after looking at him for some time.
    “Me, Master Copperfield?” said Uriah. “Oh, no! I’m a very umble person.”
    . . .
    “I am well aware that I am the umblest person going,” said Uriah Heep modestly, “let the other be where he may. My mother is likewise a very umble person. We live in an umble abode, Master Copperfield, but have much to be thankful for. My father’s former calling was umble; he was a sexton.”

  35. pete m

    “My potential greatness was killed by the extreme right – here’s what they destroyed”

    Read all about my grand plans, if only those pesky righties kept quiet!

  36. Not that precarious. The GG can be sacked and then the administrator steps in.

    You’re not thinking it through, either, Dot. Forget law, you’re better suited as an Australian journalist.

  37. Aaron

    Craig Laundy on Four Corners is utterly cringeworthy. Very uncomfortable seeing a grown man sitting there with glazed over eyes intoning the shibboleths of the Cult of Malcolm.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Dreams of My Mother.

    But enough about Googlery.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Craig Laundy on Four Corners is utterly cringeworthy. 

    No neck.
    No brains.
    No class.

  40. None

    Frank
    #2803350, posted on August 27, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    LOL Yes!

  41. Candy

    Memoir: Conservatives Still Don’t Matter

  42. zyconoclast

    Craig Laundy on Four Corners is utterly cringeworthy. Very uncomfortable seeing a grown man sitting there with glazed over eyes intoning the shibboleths of the Cult of Malcolm.

  43. None

    Candy
    #2803396, posted on August 27, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Memoir: Conservatives Still Don’t Matter

    Or how they tricked me into resigning and making some Pentecostal flake my heir.

  44. cohenite

    And nothing to do with the reserve powers exercised in the dismissal of Whitlam.

    Whitlam was dismissed under S.64. This is a reserve power. Can you give me an example where the G-G would use S.64 to appoint a minister? The G-G accepts advice from the PM when he enjoys the confidence of the house(s), that is has a majority.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    Some Men Are Born Great.
    (I am such a man).

  46. max

    You would think shrieking harpies like Probyn wanted to vote for Trumble or something.

    Probyn seems to have stepped it up a notch. It’s like watching an incoming Red guard parroting the little red book. At first a bit uncertain, but as the days go by the voice rises, the glint in the eye sharpens and the contempt for the other side shows more and more openly.

    He kept talking loudly over the others last Sunday on Insiders. I reckon he’s after Bawwie’s job. He harped on about betrayal of the leader. If I was Bawwie I’d keep an eye on Probyn.

  47. zyconoclast

    Guido hears that the Boundary Commission will be publishing their ‘Final Recommendations’ on September 5, now that the DUP have seemingly dropped their major objections, accepting that downsizing the Northern Irish contingent of constituencies was probably worth it to help keep Corbyn away from Number 10. The boundary review began in 2011…

    Guido reckons that the Commission’s aim of equalising the size of seats to within 5% of a target number will boost the Tories by some 20 seats by removing anomalies that favour Labour. Guido thinks it cost even more incumbent Labour MPs their seats. Corbynistas won’t be able to resist the temptation to push for sweeping deselections, justified by even very small adjustments to boundaries. Momentum have already scented first blood with the threatened removal of Kate Hoey and Frank Field…

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

    ‘My Struggle.’ not an option?

  49. John Constantine

    Once the shorten Rum Corps gets in it will ramp up the NBN rollout, so they can get every cent spent before 5G makes it obsolete.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    Memoir: “I, Malcolm!”

    In five volumes.

  51. Fleeced

    Dreams of My Mother.

    LMAO.

  52. Whitlam was dismissed under S.64. This is a reserve power.

    Cohenite, the appointment of Ministers is not a “reserve power”. The appointment of each and every Federal Minister is by the GG. Every time. Including the new Ministers appointed in the the last couple of days.

    The mistake that both you and Dot are making is the assumption that the PM and the GG would be at loggerheads over the matter, like Whitlam and Kerr. But what if they were not?

    What if they were in lockstep?

  53. Oh come on

    That is a reserve power in circumstances where in effect there is no government; it applies to dismissal as well. The power has been used once: to dismiss the idiot Whitlam.

    Other than dismissing a government which does not have the confidence of the house(s) I can’t imagine an application of its positive power.

    But I guess you’re technically right.

    Do not concede anything to this idiot. He doesn’t understand the distinction between the de jure and de facto elements of the constitution, and has likely never even heard of the terms. He doesn’t know that the Australian constitution does not consist solely of the Australian Constitution (the document he referred to – this is not its formal name, as I’m sure he’ll inform us after he’s quickly checked all of the above and discovered I’m correct). This is why he thinks our position is precarious when it is actually very stable, and why he so frequently misunderstands why and how our federal (and state) systems of government operate in the way they do.

  54. Oh come on

    Dreams of My Mother.

    LOL we have a winner! Well played everyone, congrats IT.

  55. Oh come on

    To appease any other pedants, yes I should have written commonwealth and state levels of government.

  56. cohenite

    the appointment of Ministers is not a “reserve power”.

    I’m afraid we’ve hit a road block until you concede that point. Reserve powers are used by the G-G regularly on ministerial advice. Where that becomes murky is where the ministerial advice is invalid and the reserve power becomes defined by convention rather than the constitutional meaning.

  57. Jo Smyth

    Apparently in WA, the word boy or girl is not going to appear on birth certificates. What if you are one of the vast majority who would like it to be noted whether your child is a boy or girl? This change has been kept very quiet.

  58. I’m afraid we’ve hit a road block until you concede that point.

    Concede what? Federal Ministers are appointed by the GG, QED.
    They don’t become Federal Ministers until and unless appointed by the GG.
    They can’t become Federal Ministers until and unless appointed by the GG.
    The fact that the GG appoints those people “recommended” by the PM is beside the point.
    The only time “reserve powers” might become relevant is if the GG refused to appoint someone nominated by the PM. Then the PM would “request” Queenie replace the GG.

  59. Driftforge

    The scope in our constitution for change to a more viable form of government without change to anything but the ‘conventions’ is remarkable.

    Ministerial appointments are not required to be made by the GG. ‘May’ and ‘at his pleasure’.

    A Federal Executive Council is required, but there is no restriction placed upon members of such to be members of parliament.

    The transition to an executive form of government would require nothing more than a government so inclined.

  60. Makka

    Apparently in WA, the word boy or girl is not going to appear on birth certificates. What if you are one of the vast majority who would like it to be noted whether your child is a boy or girl? This change has been kept very quiet.

    WTF is it with these freaks that they should be granted these special changes to every birth certificate? It’s like normal people don’t even exist in this country anymore.

  61. 132andBush

    Book title.
    “I didn’t hit a wall”

  62. Oh come on

    What is even more remarkable is English parliamentary democracy, which operates under the auspices of an entirely uncodified constitution. The English constitution isn’t even a partially codified constitution like ours in Australia. But then again, it isn’t as though the English parliament has been functioning as a governing body for many more centuries than our own. Because that would be really, really super remarkable if that were the case.

  63. Oh come on

    John Constantine, doesn’t look all that compelling (or original). There is some Pommy series out where a female detective is the serial killer and knows how to cover up her crimes.

    It’s like Harold Shipman and Dexter had a baby.

  64. Mark A

    Makka
    #2803514, posted on August 27, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    Apparently in WA, the word boy or girl is not going to appear on birth certificates. What if you are one of the vast majority who would like it to be noted whether your child is a boy or girl? This change has been kept very quiet.

    WTF is it with these freaks that they should be granted these special changes to every birth certificate? It’s like normal people don’t even exist in this country anymore.

    What do you think all the agitation was all about?
    To bring this very situation about, having an other square for a different sex was never enough for these freaks.

    I don’t like Bolta very much but he warned about the slippery slope in regards to same sex marriage and other social engineering projects.
    He was shouted down but all of his predictions came true.
    Does anyone from the wider community care?
    Not a bit.
    We few, who care, are peeing against the win my friend.

  65. Mark A

    wind but in this context win by the freaks is also valid

  66. Makka

    I don’t like Bolta very much but he warned about the slippery slope in regards to same sex marriage and other social engineering projects.

    Yes, it was well known and discussed Mark A. This and other issues are reasons why I’m coming to the conclusion the country isn’t worth saving.

  67. Natural Instinct

    The one thing proved in the last seven days, is that the ABC is a clear & present danger to our democracy.
    There will never be another right-of-centre government whilst the ABC continues to have the reach, influence and agenda setting, that it now enjoys.
    Furthermore, the ABC gets to decide where the centre is.

  68. Snoopy

    You just know you’re in for a bad day when you give the car park wall a bit of a scrape.

  69. This and other issues are reasons why I’m coming to the conclusion the country isn’t worth saving.

    Not that it matters, Makka. It is way beyond saving now.

  70. mh

    A SNAPSHOT OF YOUTUBE’S NEW SEARCH ALGORITHM

    With YouTube’s new search algorithm, if you search the exact title of Ann Coulter’s recent appearance on C-SPAN you have to scroll through 22 unrelated results from establishment news organizations before you can find it….

    https://www.infowars.com/a-snapshot-of-youtubes-new-search-algorithm/

  71. Natural Instinct

    Mark A

    You asked a few days ago why I posted the Q&A from the White House briefing.
    It was attempting to show how skewed where the priorities of the MSM, and how they where “gunning for Trump”.
    I did not see any attempt to extract information, clarification, or nuance from the White House spokeswoman on matters of substance, or policy. It was just Cohen and Manafort.

  72. Makka

    From the creepy turd who started Trump’s Russian dossier business in London. Downer is a bought and paid for globalist stooge. No surprise he supports Turdball.

    That Turdball and his team stabbed Abbott in the back seems quite ok to Downer. Obviously, Abbott’s message of cheap energy, lower immigration numbers and lowering taxes is not liked at all by our betters. Abbott needs to stfu it seems.

    All this grieving for Turdball is instructive. Without a doubt, the globalists will do anything it takes to keep their team, the Uniparty, in control and us proles ignorant;

    Liberal Party elders have condemned Tony Abbott’s role in bringing down the Turnbull government, saying the former prime minister’s behaviour has been “lamentable”.

    Conservative supporters of Mr Abbott have also told the ABC’s Four Corners that he had “unfinished business” and he actively contributed to the volatile climate in today’s Liberal Party.

    Former foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer said the party has been wracked by bitterness since Malcolm Turnbull rolled Mr Abbott as prime minister.

    “That in turn can lead to acts of attempted revenge,” he said.

    Mr Downer said Mr Turnbull was right to exclude Mr Abbott from the frontbench after the 2015 leadership spill, a move that others say further contributed to the party turmoil.

    “I don’t think Tony Abbott’s mindset was the mindset of playing in the team led by Malcolm Turnbull, in all honesty,” Mr Downer said.

    “So I’m not sure that it was a mistake to exclude him from the Cabinet.”

  73. .

    The reserve powers are explicitly mentioned, they are constrained by the finance provisions and the fact the PM can also sack the GG and then the administrator steps in.

    It is not perfect but like the 1999 referendum model, it basically has the same mechanisms – an alternate and the budget.

    I’m not really worried by some perfidious fellow becoming governor general, being clever enough to circumvent the finance provisions, never appointing another PM after they are sacked and becoming dictator for life – we are doing quite well at oppressing ourselves – “unexplained wealth laws” come to mind, as does an utterly corrupt ATO, a high court and federal court that keeps on rolling over on the absurdity and legality of authoritarian tax and environmental laws, the surveillance state and now where some states have reduced the rights of the accused to that of something worse than before the glorious revolution.

  74. .

    I’m not really sure that the English constitution is not codified.

    It operates under legislation, not precedent. Coke’s cases against the King failed (unfortunately).

    Pedantically, it might be better to say the basic law is not consolidated and fundamental.

    I’d be interested to know which provisions are not legislated. The Prime Minister, for example, is the First Lord of the Treasury. The position certainly exists, the title is a later evolution. Our Prime Minister exists in the same way by implication, whilst Ministers in general, are mentioned by the fundamental legislation.

  75. mh

    Beware anyone that spends time in the Foreign Affairs ministry. Rudd, Bishop, Gareth Evans, Downer, all cretins that think they are above Australia and it’s people.

  76. John Constantine

    Mary Kills People.

    TV show about a doctor that breaks the law to deliver euthanasia to a patient a week.

  77. I’m not really worried by some perfidious fellow becoming governor general

    You’re still operating under the delusion that the PM and GG must be in opposition to each other.
    What if they’re not?

    What if both a future PM and his future GG are both in their positions at the whim of a small, powerful group outside of Parliament? Go read Driftorge’s comment at 10.37pm.

  78. Steve trickler

    Wow, the opening sounds like a young Donald Trump, speaking at a rally.

    Trump is God.

    It’s a hidden gem, and you do not have to like techno.



  79. .

    What if both a future PM and his future GG are both in their positions at the whim of a small, powerful group outside of Parliament? Go read Driftorge’s comment at 10.37pm.

    They’ll run out of money you twit.

  80. They’ll run out of money you twit.

    Again you make assumptions, Dot. What if they’re not spendthrifts?

  81. Harlequin Decline

    In Londonistan still. We went to see a friend in Chelsea for a few drinks and a chat. Over drinks he told us he had a run in with the police.

    Apparently, following a boozy lunch several months ago he called in at a pub on the way home and got into a discussion with a group of drinkers who, from appearances were not from the Old Dart. Conversation started amicably enough then degenerated into an argument where upon he told them to fuck off back where they came from. Didn’t come to blows and he left.

    He moved on to another pub where he was enjoying a quiet drink when Mr Plod and mates turned up and took him in for questioning regarding a complaint from the previous hostelry made by the group he was arguing with. Hate crime or similar was the charge.

    Had to get a lawyer, go through all the bullshit before the case was dropped a few months later. Coppers were fine he said, just following orders.

    The thing is, he is 80 years old FFS.

  82. Mark A

    .
    #2803580, posted on August 27, 2018 at 11:32 pm

    What if both a future PM and his future GG are both in their positions at the whim of a small, powerful group outside of Parliament? Go read Driftorge’s comment at 10.37pm.

    They’ll run out of money you twit.

    Not qualified to comment on the intricacies of GG’s office but any gov. legit or not who has the support of the police and the army, never runs out of money.

    You think Venezuelans are compliant?
    They are absolute rebels compared to the OZ population when it comes to obey and tug the forelock to authority.

    Keyboard warriors don’t matter.

  83. Infidel Tiger

    The way things are panning out we may need a new Pope very soon.

    2018 is looking good for taking out the trash.

  84. Makka

    Downer’s pal front runner for Wentworth selection. Fave of the “moderates”. So, in comes another globalist leftard for the Libs.

    Burn them to the ground.

    A number of potential candidates for Liberal preselection for Turnbull’s seat have already put their hands up.

    Tony Abbott’s sister, Christine Forster, confirmed on Monday that she intends to run after being encouraged by several people within the party to replace the ousted prime minister.

    “It’s a difficult situation and I don’t want to be seen to be disrespecting Malcolm – who I do respect,” she said on Monday.

    Businessman and former Australian ambassador to Israel, Dave Sharma, is said to be the frontrunner to replace Turnbull as the Liberal candidate. Sharma formerly worked for Alexander Downer as a legal adviser and is understood to have the backing of the Liberals’ moderate faction, which controls the majority of Wentworth branches.

  85. C.L.

    I don’t like Bolta very much but he warned about the slippery slope in regards to same sex marriage and other social engineering projects.

    People were warning about all this long before anybody had heard of Andrew Bolt.
    Bob Santamaria warned throughout the latter half of his life that communism had metastasized into a secular humanist pathology whose adherents were hell-bent on destroying Western, Christian cultures and institutions. They do this by demanding more and more extreme, bizarre and morally perverted ‘rights,’ ‘entitlements’ and ‘reforms’ and then set about vilifying and terrorising those who oppose them. The goals are capitulation, silence and spiritual enslavement. Via the extreme left-wing media, they do this successfully – by and large – time after time. Only the relentless, ruthless opposition to – and mockery of – these terrorists will do. What’s also important is that all such ‘reforms’ – when enacted into law by their lacky political parties – are always overturned when conservative and rightist parties resume government. Always. This gets at why the Liberal Party is now in its death throes. One half of the party wants to fight the good fight (including for what has been lost); the other half either doesn’t believe any of it was good anyway or believes a war to restore will bring too much excoriation from the media. Best leave things be and try to fight the good fight from now on. Which they don’t have the heart to do either, once bullets start flying. Fight or fuck off.

  86. .

    “What if the PM conspires to make his mate the GG and start breaking the law…”

    If they want to do illegal shit they will. As if the governor general stops this anyway. Rudd collected revenue without a requisite law being passed. The idea that soldiers and the AFP are going to back some clowns who aren’t paying them is laughable.

    You don’t need a “dictatorship” in Australia. You just need to pass more laws because High Court has rolled over on almost every issue.

  87. JC

    The way things are panning out we may need a new Pope very soon.

    2018 is looking good for taking out the trash.

    Crooked, Comey and co. have to go to jail first before you can call it a win.

    Mueller has to be disgraced.

  88. Makka

    It’s pretty clear that the real reason Abbott is copping so much flack from the Unipaty Libs is not because he is an insurgent or undermining Turdball.

    It’s his message. He’s way off the reservation with his calls to leave the Paris Accord, cut immigration and reduce taxes. There is fear that too many proles might actually listen to him and be woken up that they are mere sheeple, being brutally fleeced by the Uniparty. That could become a real problem for the Australian globalist elites.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This is for all Cats , who ever woke up with the hangover from Hell, and a naked nubile coiled around you. “I beg your pardon, Miss, umm, what was your name again?

  90. mizaris

    Book title: “The Turn of the Screwball”.

  91. mizaris

    Philippa has been flooding spacechook with information on the homosexual crisis in the Church. More corruption that needs to be cleaned out.

  92. “What if the PM conspires to make his mate the GG and start breaking the law…”

    Dot, at no point did I even suggest the PM and the GG need to “conspire” to break the law. If the best you can do is put some words in inverted commas and pretend it’s a quote by someone else, then don’t bother. If you’re going to resort to those kind of childish tactics, you’re not worth debating with.

  93. C.L.

    I was listening to RN Drive this evening when agriculture minister David Littleproud was interviewed by Patricia Karvelas about the (latest) drought. Bla bla bla, you know. And then that moment came. As it always does on the ABC. The moment when religious adherence had to be tested. Karvelas put aside financial and humane practicalities and wanted to know if Littleproud accepted the notion that “climate change” was part of the policy mix in dealing with this … latest … drought. He becomes a bumbling numbskull – trying to prove that he’s a good LNP-er but also a good climateer. And so he offered up to Karvelas the appeasing, middle-way fatuity that reducing emissions is a good idea because it will mean “we’ll breathe fresher air.” Really and truly.

    Naturally, Karvelas – undeterred and unimpressed – continues to harass him on the subject – forcing him to acknowledge the dogma of “climate change.”

  94. Pope v POTUS, battle to the death (of their careers).

    I have Francis in that one.

  95. He’s way off the reservation with his calls to leave the Paris Accord, cut immigration and reduce taxes.

    Are you talking about the bloke who signed the Paris Accord, increased immigration, and introduced a “Fairness Tax”?

    That Tony Abbott?

    I wonder why no one takes him seriously these days?
    It is a mystery.

  96. Makka

    Are you talking about the bloke who signed the Paris Accord, increased immigration, and introduced a “Fairness Tax”?

    Yes that’s him. For someone they don’t take seriously, the Libs and the media are paying a lot of attention to him.

  97. None

    Naturally, Karvelas – undeterred and unimpressed – continues to harass him on the subject – forcing him to acknowledge the dogma of “climate change.”

    please put that freaking kouvelis and her kids on a farm in a drought area and then just drive off. Let’s see how she goes.
    I keep saying it, deport the Greeks. Useless tax hoovering bullies and nutters.

  98. C.L.

    After so-called “hell week,” Trump two points ahead of Obama at same time in his presidency.
    And there was a nationwide media ban on criticising Obama, of course.

  99. For someone they don’t take seriously . . .

    The Libs and the media, for their own reasons, are the only ones who give a damn, Makka.
    For the rest of the population he is very much yesterday’s news.

    Abbott who?

  100. Mark A

    None
    #2803598, posted on August 28, 2018 at 12:26 am

    Naturally, Karvelas – undeterred and unimpressed – continues to harass him on the subject – forcing him to acknowledge the dogma of “climate change.”

    please put that freaking kouvelis and her kids on a farm in a drought area and then just drive off. Let’s see how she goes.
    I keep saying it, deport the Greeks. Useless tax hoovering bullies and nutters.

    Living overseas has at least one advantage, I can’t even watch canned ABC episodes unless via VPN.

    Why do you bother if it upsets you so?

  101. Why do you bother if it upsets you so?

    by and large, Catallaxy readers are masochists.

  102. Oh come on

    The fact is that the left is going to try to paint Trumble as a ‘good Liberal’, as a ‘true Liberal’; that he was dragged down by far right oh sorry I mean hard right *wink wink* forces while he was trying his utmost to attain Potential Greatness. They’ll try to rehabilitate Trumble in a manner not unlike the way they rehabilitated Whitlam, another catastrophically bad PM who liked to think he had ‘vision’.

    We must always correct their record – Trumble was a terrible PM by any reasonable yardstick, and the left hated him while he was the head of government. We’ll be having no revisionist history from Miranda and the Crabbites.

  103. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #2803603, posted on August 28, 2018 at 12:40 am
    by and large, Catallaxy readers are masochists.

    Yup, came to the same conclusion.
    Some like To may have to for professional reasons but the rest?
    Beats me.

    I used to be an avid 3Lo listener gave it up long ago.

  104. C.L.

    OK … just when you think things cannot possibly get weirder

    Click Blair’s main story link.
    The writer is to be commended for an incredibly thorough analysis of this bizarre turn of events.

  105. Mark A

    C.L.
    #2803607, posted on August 28, 2018 at 1:03 am

    OK … just when you think things cannot possibly get weirder …

    Click Blair’s main story link.
    The writer is to be commended for an incredibly thorough analysis of this bizarre turn of events.

    Sheesh, take your eyes off the ball for one minute and see what happens in the world.

  106. Top Ender

    Interesting:

    WHY MALCOLM TURNBULL WAS OUSTED
    NICK CATER — AUTHOR

    Australia is once again in contention with Italy in the prime ministerial turnover stakes.

    The Italians nudged ahead briefly by electing Giuseppe Conte, the fifth change of leader in a decade. Last week the Aussies matched them when Scott Morrison was chosen by Liberal Party MPs and senators to replace Malcolm Turnbull.

    Most Australian commentators, for whom Turnbull was the acceptable face of the centre-right, are wailing about a crisis in democracy, as they usually do when they lose a vote.

    In truth, Australian democracy is in rude health. A prime minister who loses the confidence of his colleagues will soon find himself an ex-prime minister, and last week’s transition took place, as it always does, without a civil war.

    Turnbull himself is notably absent from the catalogue of blame proffered by his defenders. Rupert Murdoch’s Sky News and News Corp newspapers, talkback radio hosts and Tony Abbott, Turnbull’s predecessor, all stand accused of bringing him down. Others cite the collapse of the neoliberal project (whatever that may be), growing inequality (which there isn’t), the perfidy of the banking industry, or an erosion of trust stemming from the Iraq War, the 2008 financial crisis, Brexit and Donald Trump.

    In other words, the intelligentsia hasn’t got a clue. It understands neither what happened nor the extent of its own ignorance. Like the rejection of the Remain case in the UK, and the defeat of Hillary Clinton in the US, Turnbull’s failure has left them blindsided.

    Seldom has a Liberal leader appeared as palatable to progressive thinkers. Like them, Turnbull believed Australia should ditch the queen, tackle climate change and introduce marriage equality.

    Turnbull’s close shave at the 2016 election was an early indication that the electorate didn’t agree with them. Last week, after losing two by-elections that Turnbull had framed as a test of his opponent’s popularity, his party colleagues decided they’d had enough. In a ritual now familiar to Australians, they filed into the Party Room and decided to replace him.

    Few readers of spiked will be familiar with Morrison, Australia’s 30th prime minister, but they will be familiar with the dynamic that put him there.

    In Australia, as in much of the developed world, the political and cultural divide defies the simple labels of left and right. It is an argument between the elite and the non-elite, the antipodean chapter of David Goodhart’s ‘Anywheres’ vs ‘Somewheres’, pitting the best and brightest against the allegedly ignorant masses.

    Until the defeat in 2007 of John Howard, Australia’s second-longest serving prime minister, the new cultural divide was chiefly confined to the Labor Party, where a battle for control between the workers and tertiary-educated interlopers had been fought since the late 1960s.

    The tensions in the Liberal Party, however, were just below the surface. The contest to succeed Howard was between the sophisticate Turnbull and the pugilist Tony Abbott, a monarchist who was quoted as describing climate change as ‘crap’.

    The response to climate change in Australia has achieved the same totemic status as Brexit has in Britain. Abbott was convincingly elected in 2013 promising to end the carbon tax introduced by Labor, and he promptly followed through. The economic damage caused by Labor’s ill-advised mandated renewable energy targets went far deeper, however.

    Subsidised wind and solar generation destabilised the grid while making coal-generated power unprofitable. Two major coal plants closed, sending electricity prices rocketing. Australia once enjoyed some of the cheapest energy in the world; now it’s among the most expensive.

    Turnbull, having squeezed himself into the prime minister’s job in 2015 on the back of Abbott’s unpopularity, found himself on the wrong side of the argument.

    Climate-change realists in the party, who knew how badly energy prices were hurting in the suburbs, urged him to drop Australia’s commitment to the emissions target set in Paris, just as President Trump had done.

    Turnbull refused until it was too late. His uncertain handling of energy policy, together with his reluctance to discuss concerns about the size and structure of immigration, were among the chief factors in his demise.

    Last week’s challenge to Turnbull was initiated not by Morrison, but by the minister for home affairs Peter Dutton, a former Queensland police officer with a grounded and practical view of life. Dutton was a more trustworthy option for the Liberal Party’s conservative faction and his election would have likely signalled a sharp change in direction. Morrison, the treasurer, was described by the Guardian as ‘the compromise candidate’.

    The billing, should he live up to it, would surely be the kiss of death. Few battles are won by consensus, a process Margaret Thatcher described as ‘abandoning all beliefs, principles, values, and policies in search of something in which no one believes, but to which no one objects’.

    Attempts to appeal to voters across the cultural divide sow confusion. The dread of appearing strident is mistaken for a lack of conviction. Risk-averse rhetoric communicates nothing except hesitancy. Watching your words to avoid causing offence is fruitless against those who delight in taking it.

    Adding to the timidity is the distorted picture one gets of Australia from Parliament House. The lanyard-wearing millennials who pass themselves off as advisers have little idea where most people stand on the totemic issues of the day, and indeed whether they’re obliged to have an opinion at all.

    In Scott Morrison, Australians will have a prime minister with a better feel than most for suburban sentiment. He represents the outer suburbs of Southern Sydney, a district known colloquially as the Shire, where people have neither the inclination to post smart-aleck remarks on Twitter nor the spare time to do so.

    At 50, he is young enough to be considered a next-generation politician, the first prime minister not to have shared a parliament with Howard. The son of a policeman, he grew up in the beachside Sydney suburb of Bronte, and won a practically focused honours degree in applied economic geography.

    He worked as an administrator in tourism in New Zealand and Australia, where as the head of Tourism Australia he approved a contentious advertising campaign featuring a bikini-clad minor celebrity asking, ‘Where the Bloody Hell Are You?’.

    He is a social conservative and an economic liberal, the labels Howard assumed for himself, and are the catch-cry of those on the centre right who once called themselves ‘dries’.

    Once it was clear Turnbull’s days were numbers, the small-l liberals who supported him crossed to Morrison as a more acceptable candidate than Dutton.

    The conservatives, meanwhile, see him as a distinct improvement on Turnbull, whose absence will allow a less acrimonious path to next year’s election than would otherwise have been the case. The leader of the opposition, Bill Shorten, is hardly popular. His old-fashioned trade-union rhetoric sounds like a voice from the vaults of a museum. He is suspicious of business and addicted to symbolic crusading. His slug-the-rich, tax-and-spend narrative and economically fraudulent policy of inclusive growth seem too absurd to be believed.

    Like Jeremy Corbyn, however, the election will fall to Shorten by default unless Morrison can adjust to a bumpy cultural playing field and, against the run of play, begins to hit the target.

    Nick Cater is executive director of the Menzies Research Centre and author of The Lucky Culture and the Rise of an Australian Ruling Class.

    Link

  107. Tom

    The West Australian’s cartoonist Dean Alston has a Twitter account but sadly doesn’t use it to distribute his work and the paper’s online file of his work isn’t up-to-date. That’s a pity as he’s the product of a bygone era and knows where all the bodies are buried in Perth. I loved this recent one of his, which says everything you need to know about the end of the mining boom in the West.

  108. Tom

    A.F. Branco (who calls Jeff Sessions “Elmer Dud”).

  109. Tom

    Ramirez, incidentally, has a heartfelt tribute to John McCain, war hero, on Spacechook.

  110. rickw

    Dreams of My Mother.

    LOL we have a winner! Well played everyone, congrats IT.

    Absolute winner!!!!

  111. Tom

    It’s 2C in Melbournibad – coldest day this year – but, seriously, this is as bad as it gets and Northern Hemispherians laugh at us. In six months’ time, the North American Great Lakes will be frozen. But Google “climate change satire” – there’s none on the first page, not even on Youtube. It’s like yelling “Fuck Allah” in a mosque. Big Tech does not tolerate blasphemy of its zombie religion.

  112. John Constantine

    Yarragrad Nazgul sell the right to tax all land transfers for forty years into the future for a lump sum they can announce squandered tomorrow.

    https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/victorian-land-titles-registry-privatised-in-29-billion-windfall-

    [ that title should be 2.9 billion]

    Victorian proles miss the blockchain revolution and are buggered bare of the benefits of butter, yet again.

    Comrades.

  113. John Constantine

    The Victorian cropping zone is very close to grain crops forming seed heads in the boot of the plant, the Hay plains out in ear right now.

    Dry years mean dry soil that doesn’t hold warmth overnight, means frost risk. The cracking frost this morning did no harm, but signals that a spring with bright sunny days and clear freezing nights is no friend to anybody.

    Rain for this weekend will smooth things over nicely.

  114. stackja

    P-plater racks up $1600 in fines after being caught speeding
    Ally Foster, news.com.au
    26 minutes ago

    A TEENAGE P-plater could be Sydney’s most reckless driver after being caught breaking a host of basic road rules in a single trip at the weekend.

    The 18-year-old was stopped by the highway patrol in Botany Bay at 1.40am on Sunday after being clocked doing 105km/h in an 80km/h zone.

    Police found five other 18-year-olds loaded into the car — including one hidden in the boot — and a breath test revealed the driver was under the influence of alcohol.

    He was charged with speeding, drink driving, carrying underage passengers late at night, and failing to display his P-plates.

    The teen was given fined $472 and lost four demerit points for speeding; $263 and lost two points for not displaying his plates; $561 and lost three points for carrying more than one passenger younger than 21 late at night; and $337 and three points lost for having a passenger in the boot.

  115. stackja

    Berejiklian Government facing $40 million class-action suit by retailers over losses caused by light rail
    ANNABEL HENNESSY, EXCLUSIVE, The Daily Telegraph
    August 28, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    MORE than 60 businesses owners are launching a $40 million class action against Transport for NSW over retail losses caused by the construction of the Sydney Light Rail.

    The Daily Telegraph can reveal that the action is set to be filed in the NSW Supreme Court at 10am today.

    In some cases shopkeepers claim the severe disruption from the construction has led to financial losses of more than $1 million.

    Lawyer Rick Mitry, who is representing the group, told The Daily Telegraph many of the owners would also be seeking compensation for psychological problems as they struggled to keep their businesses afloat.

    Mr Mitry said claims would include that Transport mismanagement of the project had caused it to run late and turned parts of Sydney into “a ghost town”.

    He said Transport had also failed to complete the construction in “stages” to minimise the impact, as promised.

  116. stackja

    Teen’s mental health issues exacerbated after death of his boxing champion father
    EXCLUSIVE, Danielle Gusmaroli, The Daily Telegraph
    August 28, 2018 12:05am
    Subscriber only

    A MENTALLY ill teenager who allegedly bashed a 64-year-old woman to death with his bare hands had stopped taking his medication two days before the murder.

    Imaueli Jone Degei, 18, the son of Fijian boxing champion Niko Degei, is accused of randomly attacking Kristina Kalnic in the driveway of her Carramar unit block on Saturday.

    She died at the scene while Degei was arrested a short distance away and charged with murder.

    The Daily Telegraph can reveal Degei’s mental health problems were exacerbated by the death of his father, who died aged 57 in 2012, and he been known to the community mental health team “for years”.

    Another Richmond Report ‘success’.

  117. Farmer Gez

    Mexico signs a new NAFTA agreement with US.
    Record markets.
    The Canuck Swami next.
    Winning.

  118. Farmer Gez

    Julie Bishop.
    Nobody loves me
    Everybody hates me
    I’m gonna eat some worms

    Did the media ever think to question perfect Julie’s big dummy spit after very low party room support?

  119. stackja

    Donald Trump refused to give statement praising late Republican Senator John McCain
    Staff writers with AFP, News Corp Australia Network
    an hour ago

    IN one final dig at the late Republican Senator John McCain, Donald Trump has blatantly and publicly ignored a chance to redeem himself and pay respects to the respected politician and war hero, underscoring the US president’s enduring scorn for the Senator.

    USA MSM continue the farce.

  120. stackja

    Unknown bayside suburb popular with horse riders, bush walkers
    Darren Cartwright, The Courier-Mail
    August 28, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    A GREENBELT suburb on Moreton Bay that you’ve never heard is the perfect ‘country’ retreat with just a few hundred residents living on acreage properties that will never be developed.

    Ransome, 16km east of the CBD (as the crow flies), is not your typical Brisbane suburb. It has 120 dwellings, no shops or schools and, despite being larger in size than neighbouring Lota, visitors are rare unless they bush walk or ride horses.

    That’s because Ransome is primarily zoned environmental management or conservation reserve and cannot be developed.

    Existing homes mainly sit on minimum one hectare blocks (2.5 acres) and are surrounded, or within, bushland that provides sanctuary for local wildlife as well as being a primary habitat for koalas.

    “It is predominantly made up of between Two-and-a-half to five acre lots,” said RE/MAX Advantage real estate agent Reno Muscat.

    “It’s not slated for development in the foreseeable future, that’s for sure … it will be green space for a very long time.”

    The suburb even pokes out into Moreton Bay between Lota, to the north, and Thorneside, to the south, while it reaches Gumdale and Wakerley to the west.

    It has more than half a dozen parks including Ransome Bushland Reserve with a car park, picnic facilities and a circuit walking track of Tingalpa Creek.

    What a waste! Think of all the home units!

  121. stackja

    Crossbow attack case one of ‘mistaken identity’, court hears
    Craig Dunlop, NT News
    August 27, 2018 11:30pm
    Subscriber only

    A VIOLENT dispute between warring families in Wadeye last year ended with a man being shot in the leg with a crossbow bolt.

    Alleged shooter Emmanuel Longmair, 30, pleaded not guilty to conduct giving rise to a danger of serious harm on Monday.

    Longmair’s lawyer, Tom Berkley, said the case was one of mistaken identity.

    “Some people may come before you and say he (Longmair) shot the arrow. He denies that,” Mr Berkley said.

    Mr Berkley said it was agreed that the victim, Paul Cumaiyi, was shot in the upper left thigh with a crossbow, but the defence case was that Longmair did not shoot him.

    He said Cumaiyi may have fingered Longmair because of “influences such as bad blood between the families”.

    Crown Prosecutor Courtney Grant said tension had been brewing between “various family groups” in Wadeye in days before the shooting.

    She said Paul Cumaiyi and Longmair knew each other.

    Ms Grant told the jury they would hear from police officers who Cumaiyi told in the immediate aftermath of shooting that Longmair had shot him.

    The case, expected to run for a week, continues before Justice Southwood and a jury.

  122. Top Ender

    Age of the driverless vehicle ‘an old myth’
    PHILIP KING
    MOTORING EDITOR

    The car industry is obsessed with a driverless vehicle “moonshot” and its vision of shared, electric, autonomous mobility is a myth, according to a visiting expert in intelligent transport systems.

    Richard Young of Beca engineering group said transport experts had succumbed to “group think” and were ignoring ethical dilemmas over “robot” cars and whether people even wanted them.

    “They’re blithely accepting we’re all going to have these autonomous electric vehicles in 10 years’ time, but I don’t see the evidence for it,” Mr Young said.

    He will be a rare dissenting voice at the Intelligent Transport System Summit in Sydney, which starts today with 700 attendees hearing about the latest developments in automated vehicles, traffic infrastructure and mobility as a service.

    Mr Young said the pursuit of autonomy was yielding benefits such as automatic emergency braking, which is already common, but the cost of achieving full autonomy would be harder to justify the closer it came.

    Near-autonomous systems also had potentially fatal consequences, because humans could not be relied on to intervene as a last resort.

    One tragic example occurred in March in the US, when a woman was killed by an autonomous Uber vehicle. The car’s sensors detected a pedestrian wheeling a bicycle, but failed to brake in time or warn the driver.

    “The challenge with autonomous vehicles is they either have to be absolutely foolproof — that is, no steering wheel — or they’ve got to say, ‘this stuff is there to assist’,” Mr Young said.

    Even with full autonomy, there were additional risks for the industry as the burden of liability shifted from drivers to carmakers.

    Mr Young said the industry was “selling a dream” that dated back to the earliest autonomous vehicles in the late 1930s.

    “Every time you see it, they’re always going to be on the road in 20 years,” he said.

    Autonomous vehicles were pictured going hand-in-hand with electric vehicles and sharing because otherwise they would simply create more congestion.

    But those technologies also faced hurdles, with the power system likely to struggle once EVs won 5-10 per cent of the market.

    “Mobility as a service is not new,” he said. “Another app is not going to solve the problem.”

    Despite this, carmakers were engaged in an expensive space race in the belief that “if they blink they will have to answer to shareholders or be history”.

    Oz print edition

  123. Rae

    Rudd collected revenue without a requisite law being passed.

    When and how did that happen?

  124. Top Ender

    Secrecy bid in VC winner’s law fight
    NICOLA BERKOVIC
    LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT

    The government wants to suppress the identities of soldiers who could be named as part of a defamation action launched by Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith against Fairfax Media.

    Mr Roberts-Smith, the nation’s most decorated Afghan war veteran, is suing Fairfax Media, claiming it has destroyed his reputation by casting him as a war criminal, a “callous, inhumane” murderer and a domestic violence offender.

    The commonwealth on Friday asked the Federal Court to suppress the identities of seven SASR operators named in documents lodged on behalf of Mr Roberts-Smith. It is not known whether the members are current or former soldiers.

    The government is also seeking to suppress parts of an affidavit lodged by defamation lawyer Mark O’Brien, who is acting for Mr Roberts-Smith, as well as an affidavit filed by Special Operations commander Major-General Adam Findlay.

    Federal Court judge Robert Bromwich agreed to suppress the details for now, and will hear arguments on September 6 as to whether the court should make the order permanent.

    Mr Roberts-Smith is also suing three Fairfax journalists: investigative reporters Chris Masters and Nick McKenzie, and national security correspondent David Wroe.

    Three separate statements of claim detail a series of articles by Fairfax between June and August, which Mr Roberts-Smith says directly linked him with the worst alleged atrocities ever levelled against Australian troops serving in Afghanistan.

    Fairfax did not directly name Mr Roberts-Smith in all the articles, but his lawyers say Fairfax failed to conceal his identity by using the nom de plume of a Spartan warrior king, Leonidas.

    The articles, they say, pointed “inexorably” to Mr Roberts-Smith, “the most decorated and most notorious soldier from this period”.

    In the first article published on June 8, “SAS’s Day of Shame” and “Troops kept kill board”, Mr Roberts-Smith’s lawyers say Fairfax accused the veteran of kicking a defenceless Afghan civilian off a cliff and ordering his troops to execute him.

    In a second article, on June 10, Fairfax accused “Leonidas” of murder by “pressuring” a newly deployed SASR soldier to execute an elderly unarmed Afghan in order to “blood a rookie”, and “machinegunning an Afghan man with a prosthetic leg”. The statement of claim adds that Mr Roberts-Smith is described as “so callous and inhumane he then took the prosthetic leg back to Australia where he encouraged his soldiers to use it as a novelty beer drinking vessel”.

    The statements of claim also emphatically deny allegations made in a third series of articles by Fairfax Media this month that Mr Roberts-Smith had “committed an act of domestic violence”.

    Mr Roberts-Smith said he wanted to make Fairfax “accountable for their actions”. “The allegations are simply not true and cannot go uncorrected.’’

    Oz print edition

  125. Rae

    Dreams of My Mother.

    LOL we have a winner! Well played everyone, congrats IT.

    Absolute winner!!!!

    Went to America, didn’t she? So …

    Mommy Dearest

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    Conversation
    Sam Hyde News & Media (crush500™ Approved) Retweeted
    Senator Fraser Anning
    Senator Fraser Anning
    @fraser_anning
    European countries which banned Muslim so called “refugees”.

    Hungary: 0 terror casualties

    Poland: 0 terror casualties

    Slovakia: 0 terror casualties

    Czechia: 0 terror casualties

    Does anyone see a pattern here?
    8:30 PM · Aug 26, 2018

  127. Mother Lode

    Thanks Tom.

    That Ramirez Spacechook article about McCain was touching. He really was an exemplary member of the military, and it would be a shame to forget it due to the ludicrous theatrics and manoeuvrings that politics subsequently imposed.

  128. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2803657, posted on August 28, 2018 at 7:57 am

    Senator Fraser Anning
    ‏@fraser_anning
    The white genocide being carried out in South Africa by black supremacist communists is heading to a Rhodesia 2.0. Where is the UN and the international humanitarian groups now?

  129. stackja

    Tea Tree Gully Council must spend millions on Community Wastewater Management System
    Colin James, NorthEastern Weekly Messenger
    August 27, 2018 7:39pm
    Subscriber only

    THOUSANDS of ratepayers could be hit with higher charges if State Government funding cannot be secured to upgrade a community wastewater system in northeastern Adelaide.

    A report prepared by Tea Tree Gully Council has identified serious problems with its Community Wastewater Management System (CWMS) which operates 4645 septic tanks and 112km of pipes.

    Suburbs covered by the 50-year-old system include Banksia Park, Tea Tree Gully, Redwood Park, Ridgehaven, Vista, Fairview Park, Yatala Vale, Surrey Downs, St Agnes, Hope Valley, Modbury North and Modbury.

    The system takes liquid effluent through pipes to junctions with SA Water’s mains system while solids remain in the septic tanks. They are cleaned every four to five years by council contractors.

    Council crews are increasingly responding to reports of clay pipes cracking, blockages and spillages of raw sewage. The annual fee for a septic tank recently has been increased by $20 to $595. It is levied on top of annual rates.

    Councillors have been privately briefed by staff on the potential costs of overdue maintenance and required upgrades for the CMWS, which will escalate as it becomes older and put under more pressure by urban infill.

  130. Shy Ted

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:
    Mirror mirror on the wall.

  131. stackja

    WA Law Reform Commission flags birth certificate changes as part of gender reassignment review
    Kate CampbellPerthNow
    August 27, 2018 2:43PM

    Commission chairman and barrister Dr David Cox said the commission could not think of any legal reason why sex classifications were needed on birth certificates. On the other hand, transgender groups have spoken to them of the embarrassment of having to hand over identification documents that state a different gender, he said.

    Dr Cox said there should be no opposition to these suggested reforms. “The reaction we get should be, ‘That’s interesting, let’s get on with our life, we’ve got better things to do with our time’,” he said.

  132. Mother Lode

    Julie Bishop denounces tactics used by colleagues to boot her from party’s leadership race

    Presumably she refers to voting according to their own judgement and her record, rather than diversity front-hole narrative.

    If she believes she is sailing into the GG’s job, why would she be throwing a stroppy.

    Unless it was only mooted afterward to guarantee future behaviour.

  133. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    On the other hand, transgender groups have spoken to them of the embarrassment of having to hand over identification documents that state a different gender, he said.

    Embarrassed? about what? having a mental illness

  134. stackja

    Recycling depot run by charities struggling to stay afloat thanks to government’s cash-for-cans scheme
    The Daily Telegraph
    9 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A RECYCLING depot run by charities is struggling to stay afloat with operators blaming the state government’s maligned cash-for-cans scheme.

    A consortium of charities known as Citizen Blue invested $40,000 each to open a Return and Earn depot in the Inner West but each day they’re only recycling half the cans they need to turn a profit and keep the depot open.

  135. C.L.

    Working titles for Turnbull’s autobiography:

    The Dart of the Eel.

  136. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The white genocide being carried out in South Africa by black supremacist communists is heading to a Rhodesia 2.0. Where is the UN and the international humanitarian groups now?

    Cheering from the sidelines.

  137. Farmer Gez

    Hilarious.
    My wife, who takes only a passing interest in politics, just found out Pyne will be Defence Minister.
    Hands on hips she let fly.
    “Pyne, Defence Minister, is that a joke? Him and Mumsy Downer could run a gay nightclub. Makes you proud to be a Liberal.”

  138. Crossie

    The lanyard-wearing millennials who pass themselves off as advisers have little idea where most people stand on the totemic issues of the day, and indeed whether they’re obliged to have an opinion at all.

    Don’t forget the short skirts.

  139. Crossie

    Bill Shorten, is hardly popular. His old-fashioned trade-union rhetoric sounds like a voice from the vaults of a museum. He is suspicious of business and addicted to symbolic crusading. His slug-the-rich, tax-and-spend narrative and economically fraudulent policy of inclusive growth seem too absurd to be believed.

    Take out the unions and you have …. Morrison.

  140. Entropy

    Don’t forget the short skirts.

    Why single out the boy-men?

  141. Mother Lode

    In a second article, on June 10, Fairfax accused “Leonidas” of murder by “pressuring” a newly deployed SASR soldier to execute an elderly unarmed Afghan in order to “blood a rookie”,

    How would the inner-urban bound effetes know this? What kind of investigation can they have done from the Fauxfacts offices. Coffs Harbour would be as close to the supposed sites of supposed atrocities as they would ever venture, and you can be sure they wear their most rugged outdoors clothes even going that far.

    I hope he ruins the little shits. Reducing them to standing on street corners rattling tin cups behind cardboard signs reading ‘Will flatter with lies for $10 $5 $1′.

  142. stackja

    10-year-old North Carolina boy punished by teacher for calling her ma’am
    POSTED 10:11 PM, AUGUST 25, 2018, BY CNN WIRE

    TARBORO, N.C. — Parents in North Carolina are seeking answers after they say their 10-year-old son was punished by his teacher for saying “ma’am.”…

  143. calli

    Watching your words to avoid causing offence is fruitless against those who delight in taking it.

    True that. Abbott and others take note.

  144. Crossie

    The son of a policeman, he grew up in the beachside Sydney suburb of Bronte, and won a practically focused honours degree in applied economic geography.

    If Morrison’s degree in applied economic geography is so practical then why don’t most people know what it is? What do you do with it?

  145. Crossie

    Entropy
    #2803681, posted on August 28, 2018 at 8:32 am
    Don’t forget the short skirts.

    Why single out the boy-men?

    How bigoted of me?

  146. calli

    Potentially Great Expectations?

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here is one for Sinc and his hobby:

    The Beano wartime editions mocking Hitler emerge for sale after 70 years

    A COLLECTION of wartime editions of The Beano containing morale-boosting comic strips ridiculing Adolf Hitler has come to light over 70 years later. The amusing storylines that featured in the classic comic include one of Desperate Dan single-handedly defeating the German navy by drinking the Baltic Sea dry.

    Another humorous storyline involved Lord Snooty and His Pals flying to Germany in a captured Luftwaffe plane to hide a canister of laughing gas in a lectern Hitler was later to deliver a speech at.

    But as he gave his hard-hitting, rousing address he was met with cries of laughter from his audience of Nazi officials intoxicated by the gas.

    They were the work of publishers DC Thompson and it was said that Hitler was so offended by them the firm’s offices in Dundee were put on the Luftwaffe bombing list at one point.

    Some 23 copies of The Beano that were published between 1942 and 1945 have now been put up for sale by a private collector who acquired them in the 1960s.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    They were the work of publishers DC Thompson and it was said that Hitler was so offended by them the firm’s offices in Dundee were put on the Luftwaffe bombing list at one point.

    Very expensive retribution against a publisher of offending cartoons.
    Why not just send two (ahem) insurgents with an AK47, orprosecute them under 18c?

  149. thefrolickingmole

    Youd need a heart of stone not to laugh.

    Ushered out of my job, my mental health spiralling, reputation in shambles, I felt a deep, cavernous sense of loss for my once optimistic self

    See if you can guess whos going the full victim…

    How was 20-year-old ********** to know that five years later, her hard-won engineering degree would be the last thing that people knew about her, not the first? That six years later, she would have walked away from her dream of working on a Formula One team, ushered out of her job on an oil rig, squeezed out of her newfound role as a TV broadcaster, her mental health spiralling, reputation in shambles, and with a Wikipedia page that mostly talked about “controversies”?

    How was 26-year-old ************ to know that a year later she would be returning to the country of her citizenship to eulogise a career she didn’t even know was coming to an end?

    As my brother parked the black Honda Civic, I was overcome with a tidal wave of heaviness, a blanket made of lead that seemed to smother my soul. There was a strange metallic taste in my mouth that I couldn’t quite name, and it wasn’t until I lay in my bed that evening, the single bed I had lain in every night for over a decade, that it hit me. Moonlight was shining through the blinds, glinting on tears that threatened to spill. The weight was more than just jet lag – I was in mourning. What a strange feeling indeed.

    The most self indulgent, yet blindingly unaware article you will ever read.

    This is an edited version of a speech given at the Melbourne writers’ festival event, Eulogy for my Career, on 26 August

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Book title.

    I Fight Tories
    (That’s what I do)”

  151. Roger

    Has to be the girl in a turban.

  152. Snoopy

    The hens have been a calming influence over the politicians and have assisted in lowering stress levels.

    This story is not a joke planted by TheirABC. It’s actually presented as a brilliant idea. Eggs for the kitchen! Less food waste!

  153. calli

    That still young woman needs to find a nice bloke, pop out a couple of sprogs and do a bit of gardening.

    It will improve her fragile mental health no end.

  154. areff

    If Morrison has a degree in economic geoography he goes up in my estimation. Von Thunen et al endow a better appreciation of how wealth is generated and communities arrange themselves than accounting, law and the other parasitic vocations.

  155. John Brumble

    Of Mice and Malcolm

  156. calli

    Christine Forster and Kerryn Phelps look like they’ll have a go at Wentworth.

    There’s a page of excellent jokes in there somewhere.

  157. stackja

    Flightradar24
    ‏Verified account @flightradar24 1 hour ago
    Embraer’s E190-E2 just positioned from Boeing Field to @SeaTacAirport, a path traced by dozens & dozens of 737s on delivery over the years. But can anyone think of a time when a flight departed to the south and went straight in to SEA?
    https://www.flightradar24.com/PRZGQ/1da85818
    🕵️ @photoJDL

  158. Tel

    Where is the UN and the international humanitarian groups now?

    Cheering from the sidelines.

    They won’t get a good budget by stepping in early BEFORE the disaster hits.

    Trick is to wait until the last minute then wring hands and shout, “But nobody could have seen this coming!” After that you can glare viciously at anyone reluctant to pay up, and you can decry their lack of decency and generosity.

  159. Snoopy

    Christine Forster and Kerryn Phelps look like they’ll have a go at Wentworth.

    Cat fight! They’ll rub each other up the wrong way for sure.

  160. thefrolickingmole

    Has to be the girl in a turban.

    Winner winner chicken dinner.

    A little curious, she seems to be saying she burned her bridges on the rigs and cant go back

  161. stackja

    calli
    #2803706, posted on August 28, 2018 at 9:15 am

    Wentworth demographics

  162. thefrolickingmole

    Cat fight! They’ll rub each other up the wrong way for sure.

    Sandpaper finger stools at 10 paces.

  163. mh

    Book title:

    There Has Never Been A More Exciting Time To Be An Australian Except The Determined Insurgency Ruined Everything When There Was So Much More Greatness To Come Under My Strong Leadership Of The Nation.

  164. Death Giraffe

    Shorten on ABC stating Morrison likely to cut GG term short and replace.

  165. Roger

    A little curious, she seems to be saying she burned her bridges on the rigs and cant go back

    Iirc she applied for 12/12 leave without pay to pursue her media career, then successfully applied for another year, but when she applied a third time Shell took the opportunity to refuse and terminate her employment. As she was only a trainee, presumably she’s therefore not qualified to work on the rigs.

  166. thefrolickingmole

    Roger

    So a victim of her own choices in life.

    The huge-manatee of it all

  167. Roger

    Shorten on ABC stating Morrison likely to cut GG term short and replace.

    Majoring on the minors.

    Timid on warmening before the media.

    Great start, Scott.

  168. Baldrick

    How I Outlasted Whitlam, By Two Days.

  169. C.L.

    Wonderful letter by Arch Schneider.

  170. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2803721, posted on August 28, 2018 at 9:35 am
    How I Outlasted Whitlam, By Two Days.

    Egos!

  171. C.L.

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

    So he has “unveiled” a dream.
    Straya.

  172. RobK

    When I was Good.
    The Turnbull Trilogy.

  173. How does Bergoglio survive this? He can’t, surely. I think Pope Benedict may have just laid the most successful honey trap since the Trojan Horse.

  174. A concise history of my career.
    Volumes I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII …

  175. Josh

    Radio ratings day.

    Gerard Whateley’s sanctimonious morning show on SEN Melbourne is continuing to tank big-time.

    What a calamity!

    http://speed.radiotoday.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Melbourne-2.png

  176. Farmer Gez

    One for John Constantine.
    When a sheep breaks along a fence and you reverse up at speed to cut it off, make sure there isn’t a tree behind you.
    Tailboard bent in and tow bar. Lucky I didn’t have my teeth clenched.
    I’m a bit sheepish myself at the moment.

  177. stackja

    dover_beach
    #2803676, posted on August 28, 2018 at 8:27 am

    Statement from Bishop Thomas Olmsted Regarding Archbishop Viganò’s Recent Testimony
    PHOENIX (Aug. 27, 2018) — The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix has released the following statement today from the Most Rev. Thomas J. Olmsted, Bishop of Phoenix:

    “I have known Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò for 39 years. We became colleagues in the Secretariat of State of the Holy See in August 1979, where he had been serving prior to my entrance into this work in service to the ministry of Pope John Paul II.

    Although I have no knowledge of the information that he reveals in his written testimony of August 22, 2018, so I cannot personally verify its truthfulness, I have always known and respected him as a man of truthfulness, faith and integrity. St. Paul says of priests: “This is how one should regard us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God. Now it is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy” (1 Cor 4:1-2). That is how I have consistently found Archbishop Viganò.

    For this reason, I ask that Archbishop Viganò’s testimony be taken seriously by all, and that every claim that he makes be investigated thoroughly. Many innocent people have been seriously harmed by clerics like Archbishop McCarrick; whoever has covered up these shameful acts must be brought to the light of day.”

    +Thomas J. Olmsted
    Bishop of Phoenix

  178. Infidel Tiger

    Arlette Saenz
    @ArletteSaenz
    ·
    1h
    The pallbearers for Senator McCain’s memorial service Saturday: Warren Beatty, Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg, William Cohen, Stephen Dart, Rick Davis, Carla Eudy, Russ Feingold, Phil Gramm, Gary Hart, Vladimir Kara-Murza, Tom Ridge, Mark Salter, Fred Smith, Sheldon Whitehouse

    That is one bizarre list of names.

  179. cohenite

    ‘Slut shaming is used as a method of torture’: Emma Husar explains why she quit politics

    I haven’t linked because it’s a junk msm article; but this is a trend appearing; first SHY and now husar. What’s the connection?

  180. mh

    That is one bizarre list of names.

    McCain seems to be popular with Je#s.

  181. stackja

    Full Statement by Bishop David Konderla On the Testimony of Archbishop Carlo Viganò

    Statement by the Most Rev. David A. Konderla

    On the Testimony of His Excellency Carlo Maria Viganò August 27, 2018

    On Sunday, August 26, 2018, the Most. Rev. David A. Konderla, Bishop of the Diocese of Tulsa & Eastern Oklahoma, commented on his personal Facebook page concerning the eleven-page testimony given by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. The full statement, which included a link to the testimony, follows:

    I count myself blessed that it was Archbishop Viganò who called me to tell me that I was appointed fourth bishop of Tulsa. The allegations he details mark a good place to begin the investigations that must happen in order for us to restore holiness and accountability to the leadership of the Church.

    Now is the time for us to re-double our prayers for the church and for the victims of these crimes.

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Bishop David Konderla

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Government seeking suppression order on SAS soldiers’ identities

    Nicola Berkovic
    Legal Affairs Correspondent
    @NicBerko
    12:00AM August 28, 2018

    The government wants to suppress the identities of soldiers who could be named as part of a defamation action launched by Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith against Fairfax Media.

    Mr Roberts-Smith, the ­nation’s most decorated Afghan war veteran, is suing Fairfax Media, claiming it has destroyed his reputation by casting him as a war criminal, a “callous, ­inhumane” murderer and a domestic violence offender.

    The commonwealth on Friday asked the Federal Court to suppress the identities of seven SASR operators named in documents lodged on behalf of Mr Roberts-Smith. It is not known whether the members are current or former soldiers.

    The government is also seeking to suppress parts of an affidavit lodged by defamation lawyer Mark O’Brien, who is acting for Mr Roberts-Smith, as well as an affidavit filed by Special Operations commander Major-General Adam Findlay.

    From the Oz.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    McCain seems to be popular with Je#s.

    Yes, he flew one in Vietnam.

  184. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Shorten on ABC stating Morrison likely to cut GG term short and replace.

    Cue shortfilth tantrum in 3…2….1

  185. H B Bear

    From Nick Carter’s piece,

    [SloMo] is a social conservative and an economic liberal, the labels Howard assumed for himself, and are the catch-cry of those on the centre right who once called themselves ‘dries’.

    No doubt The Father of Middle Class Welfare was an economic liberal – he just loved the sound of pork being splashed around at election time. My understanding of the “dries” is that they were small government, free trade group, exactly the sort that would not recognize the modern Lieboral Party or have a snowball’s chance of winning pre-selection.

  186. C.L.

    Statement from Bishop Thomas Olmsted Regarding Archbishop Viganò’s Recent Testimony
    PHOENIX (Aug. 27, 2018) — The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix has released the following statement today from the Most Rev. Thomas J. Olmsted, Bishop of Phoenix:

    Phoenix now. Interesting.
    Last night I read an episcopal letter from a Texas bishop (to be read at all Masses) declaring Vigano’s charges “credible”. This is a schism in all but name.

  187. John Constantine

    Could have been worse Gez, your missus could have been in the ute and warned you all about the tree every minute of the drive home.

  188. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #2803706, posted on August 28, 2018 at 9:15 am
    Christine Forster and Kerryn Phelps look like they’ll have a go at Wentworth.

    There’s a page of excellent jokes in there somewhere.”

    I live in Wentworth, I predict that the Libs will retain the seat pretty comfortably. The J*wish community is conservative (my community) and mainly Liberal voting. However, they aren’t going to be enamoured of either Forster or Kerryn……two butch loud mouthed “progressive” Lesbians. Until I see a better Liberal option, at this stage it is Sharma and whilst he is “moderate”, he seems vanilla enough not to offend or annoy anyone. That’s my take anyway. As for that venal fag called Alex Greenwich (he has been making some noise about running…..he is the current state member for inner city Sydney taking over from Queen Lesbos herself…..that grotesque fake known as Clover), he would only get votes from parts of Paddington and Darlinghurst that fall within Wentworth. Anyway, that’s my take, happy to be proven wrong. I doubt that the Libs are going to lose Wentworth.

  189. C.L.

    The pallbearers for Senator McCain’s memorial service Saturday: Warren Beatty, Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg, William Cohen, Stephen Dart, Rick Davis, Carla Eudy, Russ Feingold, Phil Gramm, Gary Hart, Vladimir Kara-Murza, Tom Ridge, Mark Salter, Fred Smith, Sheldon Whitehouse

    Fifteen pall-bearers?

    I’m sorry but the vainglorious planning by McCain himself for a grandiose funeral – widely reported -doesn’t say much for the man. I’d be more impressed if he planned a private service and a modest military burial.

  190. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger
    #2803743, posted on August 28, 2018 at 10:03 am
    McCain seems to be popular with Je#s.

    Yes, he flew one in Vietnam.”

    Gold, gold gold.

  191. Snoopy

    Peter King was apparently mulling throwing his hat into the ring. Where does he sit on the spectrum?

  192. stackja

    Josh
    #2803732, posted on August 28, 2018 at 9:52 am
    Radio ratings day.

    Sydney 2GB & WSFM

  193. calli

    What’s the connection?

    Chronic Entitlement Syndrome.

  194. P

    Julie Bishop’s thanks everyone and appears to be staying on in parliament at this present time.
    Now taking questions.

  195. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    TARBORO, N.C. — Parents in North Carolina are seeking answers after they say their 10-year-old son was punished by his teacher for saying “ma’am.”…

    them’s front holes.

  196. max

    The McCarrick scandal in the American church and Francis’ acquiescence in it will inevitably be misreported as a problem with paedophiles and not homos in the clergy.

    Only Cardinal Pell seemed to understand the true source of the rot and respond appropriately. For that he was villified by the ABC and The Age. George Pell may one day be declared our second saint.

  197. Infidel Tiger

    Peter King was apparently mulling throwing his hat into the ring. Where does he sit on the spectrum?

    2 standard deviations to the right of Malcolm.

  198. Chris

    Has to be the girl in a turban.

    The Human Mr Whippy Van?
    I clicked the link – but plainly my planned brutally mysogynist comments were not to be.

  199. Shy Ted

    Just off to the bottle shop, get some good stuff in for Friday.

  200. Cassie of Sydney

    “Snoopy
    #2803752, posted on August 28, 2018 at 10:14 am
    Peter King was apparently mulling throwing his hat into the ring. Where does he sit on the spectrum?”

    Nice, nice man. I remember him well and I voted for him when he ran as an independent in 2004….and he got a lot of votes too. In the Howard era he was your typical middle of the road Liberal…not sure where he would stand now…..everything is much more polarised…however he was and remains 100 times better than the venal turd who usurped him.

  201. Snoopy

    2 standard deviations to the right of Malcolm.

    So no chance of winning presentation. Club Photios would rather lose the seat than have someone like him win.

  202. mh

    I took one of those McCain pallbearer names at random, Russ Feingold. Wiki states:

    He was the only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act during the first vote on the legislation.

  203. Anne

    John McCain

    1. Died after natural progression of terminal cancer. (Least likely)

    2. Faked death – liberated by the Cabal from imminent military tribunal & execution. (Not likely)

    3. Faked Death – gone to Gitmo to be executed. (Morphine would be nicer than hanging)

    4. Voluntary active euthanasia (rather than trial & execution) to protect his legacy and family from public knowledge of his horrific deeds. (My best guess)

    I suspect McCain has given video testimony against Hillary and others.

    I doubt she will but if Cindy McCain steps into his Senate seat (assuming AZ Governor is not recalled) she will do Trump’s bidding.

    Trump – The Art of the Deal.

  204. Chris

    It’s not science I don’t trust – it’s the scientists
    James Delingpole
    Everyone knows the real reason people like Donald Trump are sceptical of climate change is that conservatives are fundamentally anti-science. Some doubt science because it conflicts with their religious beliefs; others because its implications might mean radically shifting the global economy in an anti-growth or heavily statist direction, which goes against their free-market ideology; others because, being conservative, they are prisoners of their dogmatism, need closure and fear uncertainty. I hear this all the time from lefties on social media. And there seems to be some evidence to support it.

    At least there is if you believe studies like The Republican War on Science (Mooney, 2005), Politicization of Science in the Public Sphere (Gauchat, 2012), and ‘Not for all the tea in China!’ Political Ideology and the Avoidance of Dissonance-Arousing Situations (Nam et al, 2013).

    But there’s a wrinkle here and you may have guessed what it is. The world of social science is overwhelmingly left-wing: so heavily agenda-driven, so rife with confirmation bias and skewed methodology that almost inevitably its studies will show conservatives as blinkered and dim, and lefties as open-minded and clever regardless of the evidence.

    Lest you think this is my own bias showing, another recent study confirmed it: a survey of 479 sociology professors found that only 4 per cent identified as conservative or libertarian, while 83 per cent identified as liberal or left-radical. In another survey — of psychologists this time — only 6 per cent identified as ‘conservative overall’.

    Just occasionally, though, a more balanced study does slip through the net — like the one just published by a team from Oxford University. The study by Nathan Cofnas et al — Does Activism in the Social Sciences Explain Conservatives’ Distrust of Scientists? — pours scorn on the idea that conservatives are any more anti-science than lefties. It’s not science they distrust so much as scientists — especially ones in more nebulous, activism-driven fields like ecology or sociology. As Cofnas told Campus Reform, a site that exposes left-wing bias at universities: ‘Conservatives are right to be sceptical. Take any politicised issue that is connected to some disagreement about scientific fact. I do not believe there is a single case in the last couple of decades where a major scientific organisation took a position that went against the platform of the Democratic party.’ He added: ‘What an odd coincidence that “science” always, without exception, supports the liberal worldview.’

    Wait, though. While Margaret Thatcher said the ‘facts of life are conservative’, how can we be sure that the facts of science don’t naturally swing left? This is what left-wing scientists seem to believe. But as Cofnas shows, in order to reach that conclusion, they have to torture the data till it screams. Or even just make it up.

    In 2014, a paper was published in Science called ‘When contact changes minds: An experiment on transmission of support for gay equality’. This demonstrated that instinctively homophobic, buttoned-up conservatives were more likely to become liberal on meeting a gay man. Their study showed that ‘a 20-minute conversation with a gay canvasser’ increased their acceptance of same-sex marriage nine months later. Great! Except as two graduate students subsequently demonstrated, no study was ever conducted. To the chagrin of the social scientists who had welcomed this paper and its heartwarming message, it had to be retracted.

    Where are the peer-reviewers who are supposed to vet these things? Well, it turns out they’re generally willing to give a free pass to any thesis that accords with the liberal narrative. For example, over the course of more than a decade, Diederik Stapel ‘published dozens of sensational papers on such topics as how easily Whites or men can be prompted to discriminate against Blacks or women’. When exposed as a fraud, Stapel explained that he was merely giving social scientists what they were ‘waiting for’.

    Stapel probably had a point. If research supports a liberal shibboleth — say, the notion that violence is a learned behaviour rather than innate — then it will be given huge prominence. In 2000, the American Academy of Pediatrics testified to Congress that ‘more than 3,500’ studies had investigated the link between exposure to media violence and actual violent behaviour. This was a lie. Even those few studies — fewer than 1,000 — that purported to find a causal link often did so on the flimsiest of evidence. For example, one established the elevated ‘aggression’ caused by watching an exciting film by asking a child ‘whether he would pop a balloon if one were present’.

    If the evidence doesn’t accord with the correct ‘woke’ narrative then right-thinking social scientists tailor it till it does. This is what happened to a 2007 study showing racially diverse communities are more suspicious, withdrawn, ungenerous, fractured and fractious. Such an incendiary refutation of the well-known truth that ‘diversity is strength’ could not go unedited. So it didn’t. Publication was delayed until the author could ‘develop proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity’. To publish the facts on their own would be ‘irresponsible’.

    Eventually, the author published it with a disquisition on how increasing diversity would lead to ‘significant benefits in the medium or long term’. This accords with ‘contact theory’ — a notion popular among social scientists (see also the imaginary encounter with the gay canvasser, above) that the more we’re physically exposed to diversity the more we’ll learn to love it. And if the hard evidence speaks otherwise, well never mind. You can just do what the author of that diversity report does: every time some unhelpful conservative type cites it to back up their argument that diversity causes social problems, he accuses them of selectively citing his findings because they’ve ignored the bit at the end where he explains that diversity will be good one day.

    Speccie

  205. max

    Moderated. Try again.

    The McCarrick scandal in the American church and Francis’ acquiescence in it will inevitably be misreported as a problem with p*****s and not homos in the clergy.

    Only Cardinal Pell seemed to understand the true source of the rot and respond appropriately. For that he was villified by the ABC and The Age. George Pell may one day be declared our second saint.

    Though calli would make it a close run thing.

  206. Norman Church

    Book title:

    Cat’s in the Freezer and the Silver Spoon

  207. Shy Ted

    Dear Scott,
    I note you have been PM for several days now and have not yet begun to de-fund the ABC. Do you not want to win the next election? You won’t be getting my vote and dare I say tens of thousands like me until you do. Regards, Shy Ted.

  208. stackja

    max
    #2803767, posted on August 28, 2018 at 10:27 am
    George Pell may one day be declared our second saint.

    Third?

    Eileen O’Connor could be sainted
    Daily Telegraph-26 Aug. 2018
    A SEVERELY crippled Coogee nurse who devoted her short life to helping the poor could become Australia’s second Catholic saint.

  209. Mother Lode

    Yes, he flew one in Vietnam.

    LOL

  210. Farmer Gez

    Julie Bishop thanks the media for running cover for her whilst she knifed those closest.
    The sycophants in MSM love that kind of tongue bath.
    Fawns she holds so dear.

  211. Chris

    Anne, I am horrified. Trump knows no limit to his powers!

  212. thefrolickingmole

    Shy Ted

    Good point, if the ABC was to be defunded and St Scott to announce all monies saved were funding the NDIS instead who exactly would be worse of in the “right” of politics?

    On a similar note now my little tacker has kiddies TV on at times during the day the drumbeat of leftist propaganda is missing nothing.
    From the tune “we are one” sung in an Abbo language every few hours to the oh so enviro/politically correct ABC kids productions its fairly obvious ABC kids was set up as a sheltered workshop for ABC Maaaaates to nest in.

  213. Stimpson J. Cat

    her mental health spiralling

    Stimpys Advice For The Mentally Ill Beginner
    Stay positive sweetheart, that’s the ticket.
    At least you have hair.
    And those wonderful teeth.

  214. Myrddin Seren

    Norman

    Book title: Cat’s in the Freezer and the Silver Spoon

    Pay that !

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dear Scott,
    I note you have been PM for several days now and have not yet begun to de-fund the ABC

    Dear Scott
    I note you have been PM for several days now and have not yet slashed the migration programme by half.

  216. Anthony

    I watched my brother die from a glioblastoma. The last 3-4 months of his life he lived loaded up on morphine which is a pretty standard practice. London to a brick McCain never knew what was going on at that stage of his life. Right up to the time they pulled the plug, McCain was being manipulated by political arseholes.

  217. Stimpson J. Cat

    Fifteen pall-bearers?

    It means he was a fat c$nt C.L.

  218. stackja

    Regarding ABC. Sinc did have a suggestion:

    Against Public Broadcasting: Why and how we should privatise the ABC — Chris Berg and Sinclair Davidson

  219. Mother Lode

    I worry about you, Anne.

    You clearly know too much.

    How loud is the sound of a black helicopter?

    If you think you have heard one and are around to tell, then you didn’t hear one.

  220. Ivan Denisovich

    Phoenix now. Interesting.
    Last night I read an episcopal letter from a Texas bishop (to be read at all Masses) declaring Vigano’s charges “credible”. This is a schism in all but name.

    PF stalling won’t work:

    Francis has chosen not to defend himself—at least not for now. He told journalists that he would not say “a single word” about the Viganò testimony, leaving reporters to investigate the claims for themselves. Perhaps he was relying on the ability of his aides to impugn Viganò’s character, or the distaste of the secular media for any inquiry into the influence of homosexuals in Rome. But eventually the pontiff must give an accounting.

    Meanwhile, in the little diocese of Tyler, Texas, Bishop Joseph Strickland—who has played no special role in this drama to date, and has no particular access to inside information—has told his flock that he finds the Viganò testimony credible, and demanded an in-depth investigation. Will other bishops—prompted by Viganò’s example and the Catholic laity’s fury—join in the call for full disclosure?

    https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/08/what-francis-knew

    Fr. Hunwicke lets fly:

    I first published this piece on 30 July this year. I am reprinting it now because it seems to me that one of the strongest arguments favouring acceptance of Archbishop Vigano’s disclosures is that the picture he gives us of PF’s character fits so closely the conclusions which some of us have come to about PF’s evasive attitude to Truth.

    One of my motives for writing this piece in July had been the following. PF had recently accused the Four Cardinals of lying: they claimed that the Dubia had been delivered to PF’s desk; he claimed that he first heard about the Dubia after they were made public: “I heard about it from the Press”.

    Given this conflict of testimony, it was not easy to understand why four cardinals should put themselves so very much in the wrong by behaving like that and by lying in such a way. So I wrote:

    It is a now familiar picture: the Pope who shifts the blame on to others (“I was poorly informed”); the Pope who contradicts himself; who says different things to different people. The recent account of PF’s dealings with the Argentine military dictatorship is unsubstantiated but terrifyingly circumstantial and unnervingly fits in with many compelling reconstructions of his character.

    We have a Pope who, in any sort of Mess, rapidly takes easy and facile refuge in Fictive Narratives.

    Many of us have felt driven to differ from PF’s views on basically important matters of Faith and Morals. Nevertheless, he and we are fellow-Christians with all that this implies about our common life together in Christ’s Body the Church.

    But how easy is it to do any sort of meaningful business with a Roman Pontiff the integrity of whose word looks increasingly implausible? (Or, indeed, with his public apologists?)

    http://liturgicalnotes.blogspot.com/2018/08/archbishop-vigano-whose-narratives-are.html?m=1

    10 takeaways from Vigano’s testimony including the reason Cardinal Burke was demoted and liberals like Cupich were elevated:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/top-10-takeaways-from-viganos-testimony-on-popes-cover-up

  221. the not very bright Marcus

    #2803726, posted on August 28, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

    So he has “unveiled” a dream.
    Straya.

    Yep .. a rail link that copies a bus route that is full of empty buses

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Book Title.
    .
    “Prattlelines”.

  223. The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.

  224. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gerard Whateley’s sanctimonious morning show on SEN Melbourne is continuing to tank big-time.

    ESPN also.

    ESPN shakes up struggling morning show ‘Get Up!’, reassigns Michelle Beadle

    ESPN quietly reshuffled its struggling new morning show “Get Up!” on Friday, removing the polarizing Michelle Beadle from the program and rewarding her with a contract extension and an expanded role on the network’s NBA coverage.

    “Get Up!” ‒ which premiered on April 2 after months of buildup ‒ has been mocked for dismal ratings and a lack of chemistry between co-hosts Mike Greenberg, former NBA star Jalen Rose and Beadle. The widely panned show struggles to reach 300,000 viewers on most days.

    “Get Up!” was in trouble before it even debuted when a feature in The Hollywood Reporter headlined “ESPN Plans to Wake up Woke with New Morning Show.” The story not only implied that the show would dabble in politics but also revealed that ESPN would shell out a whopping $14.5 million in combined salaries for the three co-hosts on the heels of widespread company layoffs.

    One guess about the politics Beadle liked to dabble in. “Get Up!” sounds like the perfect name for her show, such as it was.

  225. Anne

    Chris;

    Anne, I am horrified. Trump knows no limit to his powers!

    Well, he is anointed by God after all.

    Don’t worry, Mother. I’m way ahead of them. 😉

  226. A RORATE Editorial: Francis Must Go:

    Alas, his friends, the same who got him elected, got the best of him. From the very beginning, as the damning written testimony by Archbishop Viganò (at the time, Apostolic Nuncio to the United States) makes clear, Francis used all means, including malice and deception, to help his friends, such as then-Cardinal McCarrick, and also Cardinal Danneels. And he used all means to punish those he saw as his enemies, such as Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Léonard of Brussels, and so many others.

    And he destroyed countless lives and vocations. Remember the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate? Your kids won’t. They won’t even know that a young, thriving, traditional order of Franciscans once existed, thanks to this failed pontificate.

    Evil in his persecution of anyone with whom he disagreed; evil in his purposeful implementation of confusion in doctrine; evil in his refusal to clarify the confusion he himself had generated — Francis has, with his authoritarian evil, heightened the tensions within the Church to levels not reached since the Protestant Revolt or the French Revolution.

    But this time the revolutionary malice comes from within the Church, from a theologically stunted and morally bankrupt, evil-pursuing tyrant.

    Francis must go.

    An unbearable stench fills the edifice of the Catholic Church. It emanates from the Throne of Peter, where a corpse decays before the whole universe. The powers of the world still parade before the cadaver, offering it secular homages, but the Catholic faithful recoil in horror before the nauseating pagan spectacle.

    Word.

  227. Anne

    Don’t worry, Mother. I’m way ahead of them. 😉

    Plus, I have an attack dog, weighing in at 5.9kgs.

    And that’s before her bath!

  228. DrBeauGan

    C.L.
    #2803586, posted on August 27, 2018 at 11:55 pm
    I don’t like Bolta very much but he warned about the slippery slope in regards to same sex marriage and other social engineering projects.

    People were warning about all this long before anybody had heard of Andrew Bolt.
    Bob Santamaria warned throughout the latter half of his life that communism had metastasized into a secular humanist pathology whose adherents were hell-bent on destroying Western, Christian cultures and institutions. They do this by demanding more and more extreme, bizarre and morally perverted ‘rights,’ ‘entitlements’ and ‘reforms’ and then set about vilifying and terrorising those who oppose them. The goals are capitulation, silence and spiritual enslavement. Via the extreme left-wing media, they do this successfully – by and large – time after time. Only the relentless, ruthless opposition to – and mockery of – these terrorists will do. What’s also important is that all such ‘reforms’ – when enacted into law by their lacky political parties – are always overturned when conservative and rightist parties resume government. Always. This gets at why the Liberal Party is now in its death throes. One half of the party wants to fight the good fight (including for what has been lost); the other half either doesn’t believe any of it was good anyway or believes a war to restore will bring too much excoriation from the media. Best leave things be and try to fight the good fight from now on. Which they don’t have the heart to do either, once bullets start flying. Fight or fuck off.

    +10^6

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