Monday Forum: August 27, 2018

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  1. Farmer Gez

    Chris;

    Anne, I am horrified. Trump knows no limit to his powers!

    Well, he is anointed by God after all.

    Don’t worry, Mother. I’m way ahead of them. 😉

    Anne.
    What was Julie Bishop’s role?
    Seeing how she was the greatest foreign affairs minister ever and queen of the universe.

  2. Hydra

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

    So he has “unveiled” a dream.
    Straya.

    As a home owner in Werribee I will now not be selling until 2050.

  3. Stimpson J. Cat

    The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.

    No.
    Not good enough.
    Heard it all before.
    I say we completely remove every priest, Bishop, ArchBishop, Cardinal, Pope and associated Churchman over the age of 20.
    Then we donate all their belongings to charity and make them walk the world wearing sackcloth helping the poor and needy and mentally ill and the hookers like Jesus told them too instead of this prancing about in fancy pants talking the talk but not walking the walk.
    Take 50% of the Church’s worldwide holdings and donate it to charity, no excuses.
    It’s the only way to be sure.

  4. H B Bear

    The Hunchback of Spring Street might want to start closer to home and eliminate the rest of the level crossings for the existing rail lines. Like most modern cities did in the mid 20th century or earlier.

  5. Anne

    Aug 26 2018 11:46:38
    Q
    !!mG7VJxZNCI
    2743167
    Suicide weekend?
    Hands up?
    [30]
    [0:28]
    Impossible?
    Coincidence?
    We are in control.
    BIG week ahead.
    Q

    The “Hands up” refers to a previous Q post image of John McCain, from July 28, with the exact time stamp as his time of death.

    I wonder if the “BIG” refers to evil Hollywood peedofeel, Tom Hanks.

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    Plus, I have an attack dog, weighing in at 5.9kgs.

    Anne I always thought your icon was a cat throwing up.
    I see now it is a cat who is eating your dog. 😀

  7. Anne.
    What was Julie Bishop’s role?

    She had John’s back.
    (Loyal supporter.)

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sinc can you please give Annie a dedicated weekly “Q For You” Thread.

    Thanks in advance.

  9. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2803795, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Novel idea

  10. Leo G

    Yep .. a rail link that copies a bus route that is full of empty buses

    It might be worth rolling out an autonomous vehicle railway network for moving non-ISO standard shipping containers between commercial/hubs ( ie 10-foot and 8-foot containers). The effect would be massively reduce commercial traffic on city roads and increase the effectiveness of the motor car (including autonomous cars) in its mass transit role.
    Passenger rail networks, I liken to renewable energy networks. They are massively subsidised by non-users.

  11. Anne

    What was Julie Bishop’s role?

    Stick Hillary be like, No fair! Uncie Jacob said I could have Australia. 😡

  12. Stimpson J. Cat

    Honestly the Catholic Church is an absolute disgrace.
    They should all be kicked out of the Vatican and it should be used to house the refugees of Europe.

  13. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2803801, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:16 am
    Sinc can you please give Annie a dedicated weekly “Q For You” Thread.

    Thanks in advance.

    Blogroll link?

  14. Anne

    Anne I always thought your icon was a cat throwing up.

    How many times do I have to tell you, those are Pearls!

  15. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sinc can you also please give Monty a weekly “Donuts Of The World” thread too.
    Thanks in advance.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    Pope Donald the First!
    MVGA!
    Make the Vatican Great Again.

    We may have to relax the celibacy laws but at least they will all be over-age.

  17. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2803805, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Honestly the Catholic Church is an absolute disgrace.
    They should all be kicked out of the Vatican and it should be used to house the refugees of Europe.

    Peter went to Rome. Tradition suggested Church stay there. Nice museums.

  18. Stimpson J. Cat

    I tell you what, I’m really worried about J$wish gamer shootings.
    Seems they can’t handle losing very well.
    Scary stuff.

  19. C.L.

    Dover, I do think that Rorate editorial is a smidgen over the top.
    I don’t believe Francis is an “evil” man.

  20. Leigh Lowe

    But this time the revolutionary malice comes from within the Church, from a theologically stunted and morally bankrupt, evil-pursuing tyrant.

    Francis must go.

    Pope Peter Slipper, perhaps?
    The fisher of mussels.

  21. Stimpson J. Cat

    Peter went to Rome. Tradition suggested Church stay there. Nice museums.

    Anyone who:

    A) Cuts off people’s ears
    B) Denies he knows Jesus three times

    Is probably not a good guy.
    Literally dumb as a rock.
    Ask Jesus.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    I don’t believe Francis is an “evil” man.

    If he has been doing a fraction of what is alleged, he is precisely that.

  23. Ivan Denisovich

    Wonderful letter by Arch Schneider.

    Robert Royal on the Vigano letter:

    I knew Viganò somewhat in Washington and always liked him; he was the best Vatican ambassador we’ve had in recent years. My esteem had grown, even prior to this letter. At Rome’s Marcia per la Vita (March for Life), bishops do not participate (the Italian bishops’ conference, displaying deeply misplaced faith, thinks it should work through elected politicians, not public demonstrations). At the last one, I saw Cardinal Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider; as for other bishops – only Viganò.

    Many call him as a man of honesty and integrity. This comes through clearly in passages from his letter…………………………………….

    The Vatican has so far been silent; Francis declared that he would not say a word for now…………………………………

    We are in for a long string of painful days now, but I believe it will become a “cleansing fire.” Many in the Church hierarchy, especially in Rome, are still under the delusion that they can manage this monstrosity. They can’t.

    The American bishops took a while, but finally realized that they had to take at least some action after the McCarrick revelations. In his letter to American victims of abuse – and in remarks during his visit to Ireland – Pope Francis basically expressed his confidence that existing safeguards can deal with the various situations. No need to create special tribunals, etc. This is fantasy and will soon be widely seen as such, to the further detriment of the pope’s credibility if he doesn’t take serious, large steps. As one commentator put it: “Pope to U.S. Church: You’re on your own.”

    Pope Francis already found in Ireland that expressing the Church’s sorrow and shame over failures placates no one. People want action – and answers. To begin with, Viganò says McCarrick was 14th on the list to become archbishop of Washington. Who in Rome moved him up to the top? Cupich and Tobin were not on the lists of bishops submitted to the Vatican for Chicago and Newark. Who promoted them? And why?……………………………………….

    According to Viganò, McCarrick and Honduran Cardinal Oscar Maradiaga (himself under suspicion for financial misdealings and widespread scandal at his seminary), were instrumental in the appointments of Cardinals Cupich and Tobin (Newark), as well as Cardinal Farrell to the Dicastery for Laity, Family, and Life. And in the election of Jorge Bergoglio as pope.

    At the very least, every one of those named now – and the list goes one – is under a cloud, given that the Catholic bishops themselves have, sadly, put in question their own right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. How for instance, was Cardinal Tobin just appointed by Pope Francis as one of his personal choices to participate in the upcoming Synod on Youth? Tobin, it should be recalled, said he knew nothing about payouts and settlements over McCarrick in the very diocese he currently heads. Same with Farrell. Same with Cardinal Wuerl, though Viganò provides convincing evidence and says Wuerl is lying shamelessly.

    His whole letter is worth studying carefully. One episode I find quite revealing: when Viganò first met the Holy Father as Nuncio, Francis asked him in conversations about McCarrick and Wuerl, what they were like or whether they were good. (Francis also said American bishops must not be “ideologized” [sic] – neither right nor left, but he specifically mentioned “Philadelphia,” i.e., Archbishop Chaput.) Viganò only realized later that Francis was really asking whether he, Viganò, would support McCarrick and Wuerl, despite the damning information he’d just provided.

    The pope had never been to America before his trip in 2015, knows little about us, and relies on figures like McCarrick and Maradiaga, and others like Antonio Spadaro and Marcelo Figueroa, who have expressed a quite laughable view that traditional Catholics and evangelicals have forged an “ecumenism of hate” in America. Even liberal Catholic outlets were embarrassed by that spectacle. In fact, if you put together the various names in Viganò’s letter, almost all of Francis’ closest advisors lie close to the heart of the problem, not its solution.

    https://www.thecatholicthing.org

  24. C.L.

    Only Cardinal Pell seemed to understand the true source of the rot and respond appropriately. For that he was villified by the ABC and The Age. George Pell may one day be declared our second saint.

    He’ll have to be content with bronze.
    Our second saint will be Eileen O’Connor.

  25. stackja

    TESTIMONY by His Excellency Carlo Maria Viganò Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana
    Apostolic Nuncio

    Subsequently, around April 21-23, 2008, the Statement for Pope Benedict XVI about the pattern of sexual abuse crisis in the United States, by Richard Sipe, was published on the internet, at richardsipe.com. On April 24, it was passed on by the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal William Levada, to the Cardinal Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone. It was delivered to me one month later, on May 24, 2008.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone who:

    A) Cuts off people’s ears
    B) Denies he knows Jesus three times

    Is probably not a good guy.

    It’s time to let the Liberal leadership thing go, Stimps.

  27. Chris

    Word.

    Dover,
    In the beginning was the word…

  28. Mother Lode

    Pope Donald the First!
    MVGA!
    Make the Vatican Great Again.

    I want to see what Monsignor Mattis would make of the Swiss Guard.

    “Be polite. Be professional. And have a plan to dispatch unto heavenly justice everyone you meet.”

  29. stackja

    C.L.
    #2803818, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Yes.

  30. stackja

    TESTIMONY by His Excellency Carlo Maria Viganò Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana
    Apostolic Nuncio

    Even in dismay and sadness over the enormity of what is happening, let us not lose hope! We well know that the great majority of our pastors live their priestly vocation with fidelity and dedication.
    It is in moments of great trial that the Lord’s grace is revealed in abundance and makes His limitless mercy available to all; but it is granted only to those who are truly repentant and sincerely propose to amend their lives. This is a favorable time for the Church to confess her sins, to convert, and to do penance.
    Let us all pray for the Church and for the Pope, let us remember how many times he has asked us to pray for him!
    Let us all renew faith in the Church our Mother: “I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church!”
    Christ will never abandon His Church! He generated her in His Blood and continually revives her with His Spirit!
    Mary, Mother of the Church, pray for us!
    Mary, Virgin and Queen, Mother of the King of glory, pray for us!
    Rome, August 22, 2018
    Queenship of the Blessed Virgin Mary

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    I defy any Catholic on this site to take a look at that Satanic Snake Papal Audience Hall and that disgusting abomination of a Nuclear Jesus statue and tell me the Church has not completely and utterly lost it’s way and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch by righteous young non gay men kid r$pist men completely unaffiliated with any of the current hierarchy.

    I’m waiting.

  32. Anne

    I don’t believe Francis is an “evil” man.

    No, but many people do.

    “Why would a pope require such protection from his own people?” 
    Maybe massive criminality and institutionalized child torture has something to do with it.

    Bergoglio’s Dirty War association with the Argentine military junta in marketing more than 30,000 children of Argentine political prisoners from Catholic orphanages (ICLCJ Court testimony of Witness No. 32www.itccs.org); his role in the trafficking of over 300,000 children in Spain, many of whom were believed buried in a Catholic child mass gravesite there; his ICLCJ Court conviction for rape and child-killing in the Ninth Circle Satanic cult; his alienation of traditional Cardinals; his kowtowing to Vatican Bank mobsters, though more particularly perhaps because of that mass grave of close to 400 dismembered baby corpses in a Tuam, Ireland Catholic Nun septic tank that was concealed by a direct order from Jorge Bergoglio himself, have all combined to unite the Pope’s many enemies into the common cause of removing him – hence the armed camp around him.

    Other chilling facts about Vatican crimes were hidden by way of websites being erased from the internet. As of five years ago (Nov 12 2013) and with only an estimated 10 per cent of victims reporting, there were 10,077,574 filed court cases of survivors of Catholic Priest abuse across the globe documented. With Catholic authorities continual refusal to cooperate in investigations and settling a few cases out of court, only a handful of Catholic Church perpetrators have seen the inside of a jail cell.

    Even more disconcerting was the Vatican-run child trafficking ring. “The syndicate obtained its child fodder through its deep involvement with the child-snatching Roman Catholic Church and top Vatican officials” according to Matteo Macceo, a Radical Party member of the Italian Parliament. “The modern Mafia had the same people running the Catholic Church and Italian government. They’re all in the same club, indistinguishable. Their main concern is their assets, which come from organized crime: drugs, and arms dealing and human trafficking.” (Macceo, Rome, April 2010 http://www.itccs.org).

    https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/celebrities/2018/2475475.html

    Only 10% of abuse reported and there’s still 10 million cases!!! Pure evil.

    You Catholics sitting in the pews on Sunday are innocent and ignorant but the hierarchy is rotten to the core.

  33. C.L.

    Cardinal Pell was pursued for two reasons (in the end).
    1) banning homosexuals from his seminaries.
    2) humiliating Victoria Police when they was caught lying to a parliamentary committee on sexual abuse. Pell’s barrister, Peter O’Callaghan, QC, destroyed VicPol. So they started looking for ‘witnesses’ who would be willing to make up shit about George Pell. Because police always have to “win.”

  34. Stimpson J. Cat

    **righteous young non gay non kid r$pist men completely unaffiliated with any of the current hierarchy.

  35. Dave in Marybrook

    Can you just let my kids get through Catholic high school before you break out the flaming torches and pitchforks, Stimpy? It’s the only place in this state that they’re safe from Safe Schools.
    And could you tell me, with the ‘micks wiped out, what charities you’d bequeath their assets to? I’ll make moves to start one up…
    Thanks in advance (emoji)

  36. stackja

    TESTIMONY by His Excellency Carlo Maria Viganò Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana
    Apostolic Nuncio

    Cardinal Wuerl also clearly lied on another occasion. Following a morally unacceptable event authorized by the academic authorities of Georgetown University, I brought it to the attention of its President, Dr. John DeGioia, sending him two subsequent letters. Before forwarding them to the addressee, so as to handle things properly, I personally gave a copy of them to the Cardinal with an accompanying letter I had written. The Cardinal told me that he knew nothing about it. However, he failed to acknowledge receipt of my two letters, contrary to what he customarily did. I subsequently learned that the event at Georgetown had taken place for seven years. But the Cardinal knew nothing about it!

  37. Zyconoclast

    Single use contact lenses are next on the evil list

    https://plan.core-apps.com/acsboston18/abstract/28f9ab41-837f-46ef-8655-feb59aa75cb3
    Chemical and physical changes in a variety of contact lenses during the wastewater treatment processes

    Contact lens use has increased steadily over the last decade. The usage of soft contact lenses specifically has grown in popularity driven by research on the physiological demand of the cornea and comfort of use. These attributes include higher oxygen permeability, typically attained by use of plastic hydrogel soft lenses which are replaced and disposed of either daily, bi-weekly, monthly, or yearly. Much is unknown about the practices of contact lens disposal by consumers and their fate as contaminants in domestic wastewater. If flushed down the sink or toilet, these lenses will travel to local wastewater treatment plants (WWTPs) where treatment processes may lead to material degradation and fragmentation of macroplastics into microplastics. Over 45 million people use contact lenses in the US, and the number of users of so called ‘daily disposable lenses’ is constantly increasing. To better understand disposal and fate of lenses in WWTPs, we created a three-part study consisting of (1) an anonymous survey of 139 individuals, wearers and non-wearers, to assess disposal techniques. We learned that 19% of the wearers flush their contacts down the sink or toilet. To understand their journey through WWTPs and degradative forces which they may encounter, we (2) conducted density experiments on 11 types of contact lenses and on WWTP solids/wastewater to identify where the contacts will be retained or separated within the treatment process. Lastly, we (3) subjected a variety of contact lenses of different plastic types to unit operations constituting conventional wastewater treatment and observed degradative effects on the contact lenses. Study findings suggest that disposable contact lenses are emerging contaminants of concern that cause environmental pollution, present a potential physical threat to susceptible aquatic biota, may contribute to microplastic pollution, and have the potential to adsorb, accumulate, and transport harmful persistent organic pollutants into aquatic and terrestrial environments via, respectively, sanitary sewer overflows and the application of treated municipal sludge (biosolids) on land.

  38. Not Uh oh

    C.L.
    #2803828, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Cardinal Pell was pursued for two reasons (in the end).

    Whilst on the subject of Cardinal Pell, does anyone know when his first trial is likely to get underway?

  39. areff

    As a home owner in Werribee I will now not be selling until 2050.

    Why ever would you sell? Not only do you have a terrific golf course (where Tim Blair’s mum once served as president) but there’s also steak night (tomorrow) at the Italian Sports Club, which is great — especially if you pay a little extra and order the onion rings as a side.

  40. Diogenes

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

    I wonder if they will call it the Outer Circle

  41. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can you just let my kids get through Catholic high school before you break out the flaming torches and pitchforks, Stimpy? It’s the only place in this state that they’re safe from Safe Schools.

    It’s actually not.
    Trust me on this.
    Unless you are on the school board there are no guarantees my friend.

  42. P

    “4 The church shall never perish!
    Her dear Lord, to defend,
    to guide, sustain, and cherish,
    is with her to the end;
    tho’ there be those that hate her
    and false sons in her pale,
    against the foe or traitor
    she ever shall prevail.

    5 ‘Mid toil and tribulation,
    and tumult of her war,
    she waits the consummation
    of peace for evermore;
    till with the vision glorious
    her longing eyes are blest,
    and the great church victorious
    shall be the church at rest.”

  43. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Former acting Liberal Party director Andrew Bragg confirms he has quit the Business Council of Australia to concentrate on getting preselection for the seat of Wentworth.

    Directed Libs Nats Yes campaign 2017

    NSW is utter poison.

  44. DrBeauGan

    dover_beach
    #2803786, posted on August 28, 2018 at 10:54 am
    The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.

    Homophobe!!! 😁

  45. Stimpson J. Cat

    You Catholics sitting in the pews on Sunday are innocent and ignorant

    No.
    No more excuses.
    No more submitting to the Authority of an institution you know to be corrupt.
    It is sheer moral cowardice.

    Ask yourselves what would Jesus do?

    I’m guessing it’s more to do with millstones than hugs.

  46. mh

    And I expect dolphins are getting those contact lenses in their eyes.

  47. Farmer Gez

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

    I wonder if they will call it the Outer Circle

    Dutifully reported by the ABC complete with a rep from the public railusers collective telling us it’s a super wizzo spiffing whizbang idea that saves the world.

  48. Dave in Marybrook

    I’m a step ahead of you with the school board, Stimp.
    I muscled in on a diversity ticket, identifying as a black Asian lesbian, trapped in a very handsome man’s body.
    What could possibly go wrong from here!

  49. mh

    SOUTH AFRICANS SAY TRUMP IS RIGHT: WHITE FARMERS BEING SLAUGHTERED

    Residents of South Africa are creating videos backing up US President Donald Trump’s claims that white farmers in South Africa are being murdered.
    In riveting firsthand testimony uploaded to Twitter Monday, several South Africans pushed back against the mainstream media, testifying violence against whites is on the rise….

    https://www.infowars.com/south-africans-say-trump-is-right-whites-farmers-being-slaughtered/

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    The church shall never perish

    We sang that one Sunday evening! 😀

    I wish the Catholic Church would return to the model outlined in 1 Tim 3. It’s impossible to stamp out all sinfulness but the requirements of 1 Tim 3:2 would’ve saved the church from much sorrow.

  51. Ask yourselves what would Jesus do?

    Not a problem stimp.
    God has already sent his first avenging angel to sort things out.

    His name is Donald.

  52. Roger

    The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.

    It seems you first you need to remove the present pope, and he would have to acquiesce or it’s not canonical.

  53. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m a step ahead of you with the school board, Stimp.
    I muscled in on a diversity ticket, identifying as a black Asian lesbian, trapped in a very handsome man’s body.
    What could possibly go wrong from here!

    Good man.
    Someone has to keep those female teachers in line.
    They can get out of control too easily.
    They need firm guidance from a strong black Asian lesbian man.

  54. stackja

    Not Uh oh
    #2803836, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:46 am
    C.L.
    #2803828, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Cardinal Pell was pursued for two reasons (in the end).

    Whilst on the subject of Cardinal Pell, does anyone know when his first trial is likely to get underway?

    Google search:

    George Pell set to face two trials over historical assault allegations
    https://www.smh.com.au › National › Courts
    May 2, 2018 – The Cardinal is likely to have charges heard separately in two trials and before two juries, but a date for the first trial is yet to be set.

  55. Dover, I do think that Rorate editorial is a smidgen over the top.
    I don’t believe Francis is an “evil” man.

    You may be right, but he is clearly out of his depth as Pope.

  56. Anne

    The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.

    Delusional. Who said that? You are DELUSIONAL. (At best)

    It seems you first you need to remove the present pope, and he would have to acquiesce or it’s not canonical.

    It is Satan you need to remove.

  57. DrBeauGan

    On the subject of homophobia, I feel that any man who does not feel at least a faint urge to throw David Marr off the top of a tall building has something wrong with him.

    I don’t say one should give in to this urge; consideration for those passing by underneath, also street cleaners, should be sufficient to deter one. But the urge should be recognised if not acted upon.

  58. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2803849, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:59 am

    Oh for days when the professions were above reproach. MPs represented. Reporters reported. I have never known of church abuse. All my contacts have been without problems.

  59. Snoopy

    Former acting Liberal Party director Andrew Bragg confirms he has quit the Business Council of Australia

    Do we need another commo in Parliament?

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    The Pope should not have resigned—he should have lived it out. It hurts him, it hurts the church…

    9:30 AM – 27 Feb 2013

    Trump fucking knew.

  61. Gab

    I wonder what role the Vatican had in throwing Cdl Pell into this VicPol witch hunt?

  62. Hydra

    Why ever would you sell? Not only do you have a terrific golf course (where Tim Blair’s mum once served as president) but there’s also steak night (tomorrow) at the Italian Sports Club, which is great — especially if you pay a little extra and order the onion rings as a side.

    Both excellent options. Unfortunately I am moving to Sydney and it will become an investment property.

  63. Dave in Marybrook

    Dr Bo-
    I’d maybe bump Marr into a shallow canal- but that’s because he’s a sanctimonious windbag Queen.
    REAL gay men have a sense of proportion, and a sense of humour. If it doesn’t sound too weird, Marr has little love for his fellow man.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    For Anne: Mr & Mrs Gravatar
    Taken just now.

  65. C.L.

    Smart play by Julie Bishop.
    She wants the top job and I believe she’ll get it next time around.

  66. Snoopy

    Andrew Bragg
    Erkos? ✓
    Beard? ✓
    Yesser? ✓
    Turnbull ally? ✓

    Just the chap.

  67. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Smart play by Julie Bishop.
    She wants the top job and I believe she’ll get it next time around.

    Opposition Leader?

    That’s a bit beneath her.

  68. DrBeauGan

    I am a tolerant fellow, Dave, and quite prepared to be kind to most homoxuals. They can’t help being what they are. In the case of Milo, for example, a kick in the pants would be adequate. He is redeemed by his wit. But the fact is that some of them induce loathing and disgust in normal men, and this ought to be recognised.

  69. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    MVGA!
    Make the Vatican Great Again

    Let us generalise to MxGA, where x is the set, not (socialist).

  70. None

    I’m waiting

    The Eastern church including Byzantine rite Catholics, will remind you that the church is like a hospital; it’s a place where sick souls go to get cured. You should not be surprised to find such broken, inadequate people in church because that is where they should be. If you wait for the church to be perfect before you return you will never return as the church – the people of God – is on a constant journey towards perfection.
    Moreover, if you stay away because you think the church is imperfect that would also imply that you are perfect yourself or perfectly placed to judge, in which case you don’t need to be in church at all.

  71. None

    Alex Turnbull has certainly inherited his father’s delusions and narcissism. He has also personally benefited from daddy’s policies. What a fuck wit.

  72. mh

    John McCain on Keating 5:

    “It Was The Wrong Thing To Do & It Will Be On My Tombstone”

    We’ll see.

  73. Chris

    Opposition Leader?

    That’s a bit beneath her.

    Governor General.
    It’s her turn next.

  74. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trump fucking knew.

    The good news is that unlike most of you old people, I will still be alive and kicking and wearing an AI robot wig when God Emperor Barron “The Fortnite President” nukes the Vatican.

  75. None

    David Marr try to run cover for a gay couple who was accused and subsequently found guilty of adopting a little boy for the purposes of sexual abuse and exploitation. He cried homophobia at everyone who condemned them.

  76. Will SHE be the first?

    Tat is. The first to have the stretched skin burst and release the botox on camera?

  77. Woolfe

    Andrew Braggs web site. He doesn’t seem to like the unions much.

  78. notafan

    Perfect comment None

    The Church is for sinners, every single member is one, in fact.

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    Alex Turnbull hates coal and miners – just like dad

    If you asked him what his basis is for that I suspect all you would get is kooky religion in response.
    Dad too.

  80. notafan

    I wonder what role the Vatican had in throwing Cdl Pell into this VicPol witch hunt?

    little to none, I would say, there is enough anti Catholic malevolence from within this country, not to mention local progressive Catholics that think the Church should be a democracy and cannot abide Cardinal Pell for that reason alone.

    They are the ones that think the sins they like should be moved into the virtues column.

  81. notafan

    Besides which that presumes that the ‘Vatican’ has way more influence over Australian domestic affairs than even the Saudis.

    Reptilians everywhere.

  82. calli

    As a Proddy, I’m very cautious about making any remarks about my Catholic brethren. Lord knows there are enough shameful and sinful acts on our side to sink the Queen Mary.

    However, the moment the media started licking Pope Francis’ boots I knew. I’m sorry to say it. It’s as good a test as Israel and Trump.

    Stay firm in your faith and trust in the Almighty guys. None of this has surprised Him, and He will bring good out of it for each one of you.

  83. C.L.

    Pope Francis’ biggest fault is his ingrained, generational Jesuitical obsession with upping liberals and liberalism at every turn and in every arena. He sincerely believes “conservatives” are stymieing the building up of the Kingdom. He treats them like the “enemy” and has from the beginning of his pontificate. It’s a bit silly to claim he deliberately appointed homosexuals to sees. He did, however, seek liberal advice on who the best liberals were to appoint to those sees. In a few cases, it seems those appointees were either predators or predator-enablers. So blinded was he by his them-and-us ecclesiology that I think he probably took McCarrick at his word that all those rumours were just calumniation from “conservatives.” His personal track record is that he’s somewhat anti-homosexual.

    The other thing that concerns me is a new trend of traditionalists joining leftist church-haters in radically differentiating the episcopate or “Rome” from the people – insisting the latter are the uncomplicated exemplars of sexual rectitude and the former the embodiment (attitudinally) of denialism (or worse). While child molestation is indeed supremely evil, I don’t think lay Catholics in the modern world are as pure as the driven snow themselves, more generally. John Paul II’s Veritatis Splendor – itself a synthesis of the Gospel and Tradition – is the ultimate cultural antidote to the illnesses in the Church. That’s because most of us are – to some extent – complicit in normalising moral subjectivism (and living or choosing accordingly). Yes, the hierarchy must be held to account. But so too must we hold ourselves to account.

  84. notafan

    Not
    Stupid
    Anne
    again
    with
    her
    anti
    Catholic
    ‘trolling’
    been
    doing
    it
    since
    November
    2016
    hilarious
    stuff
    As for Francis, I care not much, as popes come and go and the Church created by Christ has weathered far worse

  85. Perfect comment None

    Indeed.

    Stay firm in your faith and trust in the Almighty guys. None of this has surprised Him, and He will bring good out of it for each one of you.

    God bless you, Calli.

  86. John Constantine

    Cleansed of turnbull. the commonwealth water holder is going to make a few million dollars worth of environmental water available for sale in the murray darling basin irrigation districts.

    20 gigaliters for a vicco irrigation district for a start.

    $ 370,000 a gig is expensive to dump out to see.

  87. Anne

    Gorgeous, Bruce. 😍

    I have loads of different birds and ducks that visit daily but the one Rainbow Lorikeet and two King Parrots who will eat out of my hand are very special. 🦅🦆🦉

  88. John Constantine

    activists claiming that the rivers would be running right now, regardless of lack of rain if not for irrigation, so water stored in dams must be dumped out to sea.

    For turnbull.

    For Paris.

    For Stalin.

    Comrades.

  89. C.L.

    Which top job CL?

    Leader of the Liberal Party.
    Bishop has no other reason to move to the backbench but that ambition.
    I don’t believe there will be another spill before the election but, afterwards, Bishop has a real shot of replacing Morrison and proving a handful for Prime Minister Shorten.

  90. Habib

    Bob Hawke. Mad rooter. Ok embarrasing PM. Reformed drunk, the worst people on earth.
    Paul Keating. Shit bloke. Good appalling treasurer, even worse PM.
    John Howard. Not a good guy. Ok fascist, spendtrift PM.
    Keven Rudd. Shit bloke. Shit PM.
    Gillard. TLS. Shit PM.
    Tony Abbot. see above post.
    Malcolm. Shit bloke. Shit PM.
    Morrie. God botherer. Incompetent treasurer, incapable of reining in profligacy. Shit PM.
    FIFY.

  91. CL @ 12.47pm, I don’t disagree with any of that.

  92. Roger

    The Eastern church including Byzantine rite Catholics, will remind you that the church is like a hospital; it’s a place where sick souls go to get cured. You should not be surprised to find such broken, inadequate people in church because that is where they should be.

    Not among the purported healers, though. And that goes for any church body. Men with disordered sexual desires have no place among the clergy, where they will only do damage to people and bring the church into disrepute.

    But if one accepts, for argument’s sake, the Catholic teaching on the hierarchical gifts of the Spirit bestowed by virtue of ordination to holy orders, most especially present in the episcopacy in communion with the see of Rome, then some very grave unfaithfulness has not only been tolerated but covered up, it is alleged, at the highest level. One could argue that such a conspiracy among those charged with leading the people of God – and sacramentally equipped for that task with the requisite charisms – is a form of the sin against the Holy Spirit. In which case you’re going to need another St Peter Damian, my Catholic friends.

  93. jupes

    From CL’s link on Turnbulls son above:

    The dickhead quotes a report from “new energy finance analysts at Bloomberg”. In other words the very people who are benefiting from this scam:

    The report warned that investing in new coal would be “very risky” for four main reasons:

    Future carbon (price, regulation and policy) risks
    Significant risks of reputational damage for the lender/investor
    Exposure to the highly-variable wholesale electricity price market as coal plants struggle to secure long-term supply contracts
    A history of delays and cost overruns with the construction of recent projects
    The Australian Energy Market Operator estimates the time gap between commissioning a new coal-fired power station and it coming online and generating electricity would be eight years.

    So it would be “risky” only because of government regulations.

    Depending on the capacity, Mr Turnbull calculates that such a new plant would cost between $2 billion and $4 billion to build, but he is sceptical that such a project could survive three electoral cycles.

    The decision to build the Datteln 4 coal power station in Germany was announced in 2004, started construction in 2007 and after delays on account of legal challenges and engineering hiccups, it is not expected to come online until at least 2020.

    What about the hundreds of coal fired power stations the Chicoms are building? How long do they take to build? So what Turnbull is saying is that we should surrender to Green lawfare.

    Such woolly thinking is destroying this nation.

  94. C.L.

    Bob Hawke. Mad rooter. Ok embarrasing PM. Reformed drunk, the worst people on earth.
    Paul Keating. Shit bloke. Good appalling treasurer, even worse PM.
    John Howard. Not a good guy. Ok fascist, spendtrift PM.
    Keven Rudd. Shit bloke. Shit PM.
    Gillard. TLS. Shit PM.
    Tony Abbot. see above post.
    Malcolm. Shit bloke. Shit PM.
    Morrie. God botherer. Incompetent treasurer, incapable of reining in profligacy. Shit PM.
    FIFY.

    I’ll give Gillard this: she had the nicest boobs.

  95. C.L.

    What can you do but laugh at an Asia-based hedge-fund manager decrying the influence of dirt-covered Aussie coal miners on the Liberal Party?

  96. Anyone know anything about the new Minister for Immigration, David Coleman?
    I’ve no idea what he’s like, but he’s got to be better than Dutton.

    Dutton was indisputably the most hopeless & inept Minister for Immigration of the modern era. The dept has been utter chaos.

  97. C.L.

    Christopher Pyne sworn in as defence minister.
    I feel safer already.

  98. John Constantine

    Their abc has obtained a gotcha on Dutton.

    Claims that the head of the AFL lobbied Dutton to have a domestic servant of his cousin released from immigration detention and given a tourist visa.

    Their left hate Dutton so much they will stick it to Stalin’s own sporting code to take him down.

    Comrades.

  99. C.L.

    Anyone know anything about the new Minister for Immigration, David Coleman?

    Never heard of him.

  100. Robber Baron

    Has Turnbull announced a farewell tour of Australia yet?

    We peasants must be given an opportunity to demonstrate our gratitude to the glorious leader of the Turnbull Coalition Team reich.

  101. Tom

    Josh at 9.52am:

    Radio ratings day.
    Gerard Whateley’s sanctimonious morning show on SEN Melbourne is continuing to tank big-time.
    What a calamity!

    SEN ratings, Survey #5, 2018:

    Slot/now/last/2017/±%
    Mo-Fr 3.0 (3.1) 3.7 -19%
    Break* 3.2 (3.1) 3.1 +3%
    Morn 2.4 (3.1) 4.2 -43% (Whateley)
    Arvo 3.1 (3.0) 3.6 -14%
    Drive 3.4 (3.5) 4.3 -21%
    Even 2.8 (2.7) 3.5 -20%

    Since he installed himself as SEN CEO in January after his company (sports radio content provider Crocmedia) took it over, self-made smartarse Craig Hutchison, who surrounds himself with leftards like Crocmedia shareholder Dr Turf (John Rothfield), has demonstrated to the world that, even though through Crocmedia he invented a clever way of providing country radio stations with “free” sports content financed by advertising, he knows fuck all about programming a metropolitan radio station.

    Hutchison has broken two golden rules: 1. don’t preach politics to sports fans, who don’t need smug-drenched smartarses like Whateley and his regular SEN guest Bawwie Cassidy telling them how to think. 2. Don’t sack the talking heads the audience loves (Hutchison sacked 90% of SEN’s on-air roster and replaced them with cheap, smartarse kiddies from Crocmedia).

    Hutchison is punting SEN’s future on AFL and cricket rights – both worthless if your audience has collapsed, as SEN’s is doing now.

    But don’t expect the audience collapse to be arrested. Hutchison has surrounded himself with leftard knowalls telling him to keep doing what he’s doing.

    His biggest star, Whateley, hired by Hutchison in January as SEN’s saviour, is SEN’s worst performer — a disaster, in fact. Whateley has the personality of a pot plant and loathes morally inferior sports fans.

    Blind Freddie could have told Hutchison that would happen. Leftism kills media businesses.

    ________________________________________________________________________
    *Breakfast with Gary Lyon and Tim Watson is the only SEN show growing its audience. It is the only show that SEN already had before Hutchison arrived. Everything Hutchison introduced is tanking.

  102. Bruce in WA

    Andrews unveils $50bn rail dream

    The Victorian government unveils a yet-to-be funded rail network, the biggest transport project in Australian history, that will take decades to complete.

  103. Natural Instinct

    Anne at 12:09

    The sexual abuse crisis in the Church overwhelmingly involves the targeting of adolescent boys and young men by men with homosexual inclinations. Remove them from the Church and you’ve effectively rid yourself of the problem.
    .
    Delusional. Who said that? You are DELUSIONAL. (At best)

    The Royal Commission
    JUNE 2017
    ANALYSIS OF CLAIMS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE MADE WITH RESPECT TO CATHOLIC CHURCH INSTITUTIONS IN AUSTRALIA

    46. Of those people who made a claim of child sexual abuse (where gender was reported): 78 per cent were male and 22 per cent were female.
    59. Of all alleged perpetrators, 90 per cent were male and 10 per cent were female.

  104. Leigh Lowe

    I’ll give Gillard this: she had the nicest boobs.

    Only the clubhouse leader until Pieman strolls up the 18th fairway.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    I don’t believe there will be another spill before the election but, afterwards, Bishop has a real shot of replacing Morrison and proving a handful for Prime Minister Shorten.

    A handful of what?

  106. C.L.

    Men with disordered sexual desires have no place among the clergy.

    Truer to say that men who act out disordered sexual desires have no place among the clergy. I have no doubt that many priests and bishops homosexually inclined have led saintly lives. Would it not be a sin against the Holy Spirit to insist that a certain class of inclinations is – as it were – pneumatologically impervious? Examples abound in church history of men with disordered desires for food, drink, power, and property. A virtuous, chaste homosexual is to be preferred over a a bulging Borgia with a turkey drumstick in one hand and a diamond-covered crosier in the other, surely.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Blind Freddie could have told Hutchison that would happen. Leftism kills media businesses.

    Politics kills sport media businesses. It’s just that the Left can’t help themselves.

    White ESPN Host Trashes Tiger Woods for Not Attacking Trump…

    Monday, ESPN “First Take” co-host Max Kellerman responded to golfer Tiger Woods saying people need to “respect the presidency” when it comes to President Trump.

    Kellerman said Woods’ remarks bother him and make him “angry.”

    Kudos to Mr Woods for trying to stay away from politics, but that won’t save him from being crucified by the Left despite his integument.

  108. jupes

    Good grief! Talk about hyperbowl:

    Climate change is World War III, and we are leaderless

    Imagine the mindset that could believe CO2 is going to kill the planet unless we in Australia reduce our paltry emissions, yet is still perfectly cool with the world’s top two largest emitters increasing theirs.

    Insane.

  109. Natural Instinct

    Royal Commission
    APRIL 2017
    ANALYSIS OF COMPLAINTS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE RECEIVED BY ANGLICAN CHURCH DIOCESES IN AUSTRALIA

    46. Of those people who made a complaint of child sexual abuse (where gender was reported), 75 per cent were male and 25 per cent were female.
    57. Of all alleged perpetrators, 94 per cent were male and 6 per cent were female.

  110. harrys on the boat

    Haha, Lanny Davis, CNN’s unnamed source for Trumps troubles regarding Cohen, has outed himself and admitted he lied about it all.

    What a day Trumps having.

  111. zyconoclast

    Vox pop of Greens/ALP voters

  112. zyconoclast

    Nine’s breakfast program is beaten by ABC News in Melbourne during ratings stoush… after Karl Stefanovic moved his show to the Victorian capital to lure back viewers

    According to ratings published by TV Tonight, Nine Network Today show was beaten in Melbourne by ABC’s breakfast programs and Seven Network’s Sunrise last week.

    While Today finished with just 43,000 viewers, ABC snagged a total of 63,000 viewers

    Meanwhile, Sunrise took out Melbourne’s top spot with 71,000 sets of eyeballs tuning in.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    A virtuous, chaste homosexual is to be preferred over a a bulging Borgia with a turkey drumstick in one hand and a diamond-covered crosier in the other, surely.

    We are back to Peter Slipper I see.

  114. Anne

    Interesting isn’t it, NI, how they distract and obfuscate with focus on percentages and characteristics of the victims rather than the perpetrators.

    Anything to point the finger away from themselves.

    Satanic ritual abuse and child r#pe is a privilege across the Elite spectrum.

    I believe victims like Fiona Barnett. She may even be acquainted with those Commissioners.

  115. Myrddin Seren

    Stick Hillary:

    Investment needed in Pacific

    Ms Bishop gave some parting thoughts on foreign policy, calling for significant spending on development in the Pacific.

    The government boosted the proportion of the aid budget spent in the region in the 2018 Budget, in a move seen as a counter to rising Chinese influence in the region.

    “We must ensure that the Pacific is safe and prosperous and devote a significant amount of our aid budget to the Pacific,” Ms Bishop told reporters at Parliament House.

    For something like 2-and-a-half years, Connie Fierravanti-Wells was Minister for International Development and the Pacific, and was warning about dysfunction and growing Chinese influence in our region.

    Meanwhile, Stick Hillary was giving tens of millions of borrowed dollars to International Planned Parenthood, so crack teams of abortionists could be airlifted in to disaster zones and start dragging pregnant victims out of the rubble and on to the end of a suction pump.

    But NOW – with her influence spent – she warns about the Chicom threat in the Pacific ?! Donations just came to a skidding halt ?

  116. Tom, would you say Hutchy is the ScoMo of sport?

  117. Chris

    While Today finished with just 43,000 viewers, ABC snagged a total of 63,000 viewers

    Meanwhile, Sunrise took out Melbourne’s top spot with 71,000 sets of eyeballs tuning in.

    SO we are paying a billion dollars a year for 1.3% of the population of Melbourne to watch lefty smug displays and BBC reruns?

  118. H B Bear

    Former acting Liberal Party director Andrew Bragg confirms he has quit the Business Council of Australia to concentrate on getting preselection for the seat of Wentworth.

    Party hack and Big Business stooge. Strike two. If only he was a union member he could be anointed by the Holy Trinity.

  119. Chris

    monty, would you say Tits is the ScoMo of lefties?

  120. Driftforge

    Christopher Pyne sworn in as defence minister.
    I feel safer already.

    And this in the context of Marise Payne no longer being Defence Minister…

    Anyone know anything about the new Minister for Immigration, David Coleman?

    If recent events are anything to go by, he’s on the fast track to being PM.

  121. Habib

    While Today finished with just 43,000 viewers, ABC snagged a total of 63,000 viewers. Shows how many unemployable marxist cretins there are in Danograd, no wonder the bastard is cruising to the next election, despite a litany of failure and over-reach. And the dirty fuckers keep moving up here when they lapse into senility, and put abhorrent creatures like Pleasurechook and that loathsome creature Trad into office.

  122. Myrddin Seren

    Stick Hillary 2:

    [email protected] on the Paris Climate Agreement: I believe Australia has a very high standing as a nation that keeps its commitments…when we sign a treaty, partners should be able to rely upon us.

    No one gives a flying duck outside the UN, the WEF, the Green Blob and various renewball spivs – like Clan Turnbull. No one.

    Name the ‘partners’ that are meeting/beating the Paris bonfire of the economies ?

  123. Eyrie

    Ya have to hand it to the Parliamentary Libs, they figured out the Stick Insect correctly. Her ego is in the corner, curled up in a foetal position, whimpering.

  124. H B Bear

    Smart play by Julie Bishop.
    She wants the top job and I believe she’ll get it next time around.

    Opposition Leader? That’s a bit beneath her.

    Lieborals in Opposition will be a bloodbath. Better to take up something more genteel like bare knuckle MMA.

  125. I don’t believe there will be another spill before the election …

    When the primary vote starts with a 2, you might want to revise that.

    Post election, Jules (is this an upgrade to Gillard or a new one?) will stand a chance as leader, with only 15 or so votes required to win a ballot.

  126. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Writing skills among Australian primary and secondary students have fallen to their lowest levels since nationwide testing began.

    You import the Third World, don’t be surprised when you become the Third World.

  127. zyconoclast

    Christopher Pyne sworn in as defence minister.
    I feel safer already.

    He will be fellating the torpedos and rimming the tubes as of … right now.

  128. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Writing skills among Australian primary and secondary students have fallen to their lowest levels since nationwide testing began.

    You import the Third World, don’t be surprised when you become the Third World.

    The left’s relentless shitholeification.

  129. C.L.

    Writing skills among Australian primary and secondary students have fallen to their lowest levels since nationwide testing began.

    Entry qualifications for teaching are a lot like payment requirements in a hillbilly surgery.
    A decent pig will get you into a Dip. Ed.

  130. Makka

    Truer to say that men who act out disordered sexual desires have no place among the clergy.

    I don’t know. Given the extent to which this sickness has apparently reached in the Vatican, the church really has no choice but to bar any known homos from entering the clergy. They will over time also need to defrock homo clergymen. What other choice do they have, particularly in the west, if they are to ever regain public respect? There must be a powerful reckoning.

  131. Habib

    I’ll give Gillard this: she had the nicest boobs. Fortunately I’ve retained my failing eyesight and not been petrified by not viewing those droopy, beveined baps. You are a very sick man indeed.

    Bloody vinegar tits.

  132. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2803924, posted on August 28, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    Vox pop of Greens/ALP voters

    Self indulgent dickheads aren’t they. Not a fucking clue.

  133. Habib

    I for one think it’s a great step forward having a defence minister with no gag reflex.

  134. zyconoclast

    Anyone know anything about the new Minister for Immigration, David Coleman?

    Never heard of him.

    According to Wiki

    Early life and education
    Coleman was born in Camden,[3] a south-western suburb of Sydney, New South Wales. He attended primary school at Saint Thomas à Becket primary school in Lewisham; and completed his schooling at the Christian Brothers’ High School, also in Lewisham. Coleman studied at the University of New South Wales, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws,[1] and was president of the UNSW Student Guild in 1997.[3]

    Career
    Before entering politics, Coleman worked for global management consulting firm McKinsey & Co, LookSmart, dStore, and since 2005, in a variety of roles for PBL Media[3] and the Nine Network[4] where he was the director of strategy and digital. Coleman entered Liberal preselection contests for Cook in 2007 and Bradfield in 2010; however was unsuccessful in receiving Liberal endorsement.[1] Prior to his election to Parliament, Coleman held directorships with ninemsn Pty Liimited (2008-13), Australian News Channel Pty Limited (2008-13), and Yellow Brick Road Holdings Limited (2011-13).[3]

    At the 2013 federal election Coleman defeated the incumbent Labor member, Daryl Melham, who had held the seat for 23 years. Coleman recorded a two-party preferred swing of 3.28 per cent in his favour;[5] and became the first non-Labor member to hold the seat since the Division of Banks was created in 1949.[6]

    Coleman is in favour of legalising same-sex marriage.[7]

    Personal life
    His partner is Dotte Derrickson and they have two children, Caroline and Joseph.

  135. C.L.

    those droopy, beveined baps.

    But enough about the Morrison ministry.

  136. Entropy

    Post election, Jules (is this an upgrade to Gillard or a new one?) will stand a chance as leader, with only 15 or so votes required to win a ballot.

    I would think the right opposition leader is Abbott, but I suspect that all will be left in the liberal caucus will be photios creatures in safe seats, plus Abbott, so you might be right.
    Heck the national party may have more seats.

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie

    #2803937, posted on August 28, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    Ya have to hand it to the Parliamentary Libs, they figured out the Stick Insect correctly. Her ego is in the corner, curled up in a foetal position, whimpering.

    This from the parallel universe of the AFR today.
    Front page promo …

    “Along with her strong work ethic, Bishop will be remembered for her ability to master a brief and manage her department.”

    The page 44 article pumps up her tyres big-time, with quotes from the Lowy Institute and the usual lefties. What is interesting is that the article headline and sub-headline are completely at odds with the rest of the puff piece and the front page promo …

    BISHOP LEAVES A LEGACY NOT A DOCTRINE
    Resignation : While no grand strategist, and despite failing with China, Julie Bishop acted as the nation’s chief diplomat with skill and tenacity.”

    Having no strategy and fucking up with China (and the US post 2016 for that matter) are two fairly big “Apart froms” in anyone’s language.

  138. Leigh Lowe

    Writing skills among Australian primary and secondary students have fallen to their lowest levels since nationwide testing began.

    I fink those sadistics is wrong.
    There are nothing matter with writing skils in shools.

  139. Tom

    Monty, ScoMo is capable of learning; because of who he’s listening to, Hutchison isn’t.

  140. The Barking Toad

    those droopy, beveined baps.

    Short Willie do you mean?

  141. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Christopher Pyne sworn in as defence minister.

    Standard issue backpacks and boots to replaced by standard issue handbags and heels. Camo hotpants will make a comeback.

  142. Gab

    So the gay parades over the years were not actually mocking the Catholic clergy. Seems they were celebrating their victory over the clergy.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Entry qualifications for teaching are a lot like payment requirements in a hillbilly surgery.
    A decent pig will get you into a Dip. Ed.

    I see they were taking students into teaching with a TER as low as 15.
    Given that pretty much everyone does VCE/HSE, this means that a good portion of teaching graduates are in the bottom quartile.

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Christopher Pyne sworn in as defence minister.

    I can foresee a massive slump in unit morale, followed by an increase in those who are eligible, opting for discharge.

  145. struth

    [email protected] on the Paris Climate Agreement: I believe Australia has a very high standing as a nation that keeps its commitments…when we sign a treaty, partners should be able to rely upon us.

    As long as they’re not relying on us for any manufactured goods, military aid, food, technology…

    However, if they are relying on us to shackle ourselves to powerless third world status, so they can grow, we’re highly reliable, it seems.

    The UN Paris agreement.
    The UN , picking which nations hand their wealth to other nations, and which nations can burn coal etc, in the name of Climate Change. This selective process proves conclusively, that the UN does not believe in Climate change, the reason for the agreement.

  146. zyconoclast

    Too bad Mollie Tibbets died and not her father.
    A terrible man who would swap his daughter for a taco.

    Mollie Tibbetts was ‘nobody’s victim,’ her dad says in powerful eulogy

    Cristhian Bahena Rivera, a 24-year-old Mexican immigrant, has been accused of killing Mollie Tibbetts. An autopsy reported that she died from stab wounds.

    Authorities say Rivera, who was being held in lieu of a $5 million cash-only bond, is an undocumented immigrant from Mexico. His case has inflamed the national debate over immigration and has drawn comments from President Trump.

    Rob Tibbetts has not commented publicly on the topic. But in his eulogy he highlighted how the local Hispanic community had embraced him as he searched for his daughter.

    “The Hispanic community are Iowans. They have the same values as Iowans,” he said, including an emphasis on family. “As far as I’m concerned, they’re Iowans with better food.”

  147. Habib

    It’s a pity Shorten’s head is lightbulb shaped, were it flat he’s short enough to be of some use.

  148. Mother Lode

    Depending on the capacity, Mr Turnbull calculates that such a new plant would cost between $2 billion and $4 billion to build, but he is sceptical that such a project could survive three electoral cycles.

    This is the genius who went into an election, chose to call it the Trumble Coition Coalition Team, and whose campaign ran out of money before the election so he had to pour in some of his own dosh?

    He probably thinks there would be no market for life jackets to drowning people.

  149. jupes

    [email protected] on the Paris Climate Agreement: I believe Australia has a very high standing as a nation that keeps its commitments…when we sign a treaty, partners should be able to rely upon us.

    Understand this. Whether Australia sticks to the agreement or not will make no change whatsoever to the climate. Zero.

    So the only benefit our “partners” will get is reduced economic output from Australia. Good for our enemies I suppose.

    Parading a treaty that is against the national interest as a virtue just shows how out of touch the traitors in Canberra really are.

  150. Mother Lode

    (Labor would tell them the reason they are drowning is Tony Abbott.)

  151. Makka

    those droopy, beveined baps.

    For someone with failing eyesight, you certainly seem to have a very clear view of them. You can be a fan of her fun bags and despise the person. That’s ok.

  152. Monty, ScoMo is capable of learning; because of who he’s listening to, Hutchison isn’t.

    Money talks and bull dust walks in media. You can write off SEN’s ratings in the short term, next year is when it matters. Similar to ScoMo and the next election.

    Also, don’t underestimate Hutchy’s personal skills as a salesman to make a profit regardless of ratings.

  153. zyconoclast

    The era of TV shows in which white males impart information on a subject is dead, a top BBC executive has said, stating the corporation must find “different ways” of bringing expert insight and knowledge to audiences in future.

    BBC Four editor Cassian Harrison, an upper middle-class white male, told the Edinburgh Television Festival that people are no longer interested in “static” television programmes featuring a white male presenter talking about a topic, The Times reports.

    “There’s a mode of programming that involves a presenter, usually white, middle-aged and male, standing on a hill and ‘telling you like it is’. We all recognise the era of that has passed.

    “What we’re looking for is different ways to shift a form. Different ways we can bring that specialism, that information, that insight to audiences,” he said, adding that the bosses of other BBC channels had also decided that the format was outdated.

    Earlier this year the former head of BBC Comedy, Shane Allen, said a production like Monty Python with a cast of “six Oxbridge white blokes” would not be commissioned today, explaining that the corporation is instead intent on hiring people “who reflect the modern world”.

    Speaking after a number of comedy programmes fronted by women and ethnic minorities were unveiled, Allen pointed to the relatively unknown recent BBC 3 sketch show Famalam, the whole cast of which is black, to highlight the corporation’s “diverse” new content.

    Breitbart London has previously reported how the corporation offers highly desirable paid staff ‘internships’ which white people cannot apply for, claiming that the drive for ever-greater ‘diversity’ is to ensure the BBC’s workforce “reflects the UK”.

    However, figures from last month revealed the public broadcaster employs more than 400 individuals who identify as transgender — a figure four times higher than the general population — and that the proportion of lesbian, gay, and bisexual staff members at the BBC was almost five times that of the country at large.

    Neglecting to comment on the underrepresentation of heterosexuals in the corporation’s workforce, BBC diversity chief Tunde Ogungbesan instead insisted that more lesbians needed to be hired.

  154. Also, I have a solution for the problems of all Cats: Pope Julie. She’s already a bishop, so it’s not that much of a stretch.

  155. Habib

    You can be a fan of her fun bags and despise the person. That’s ok. Yeah nah. They’re attached to that vile nematode.

  156. zyconoclast

    THE LEFT HASN’T GIVEN UP ON KAVANAUGH

    The New York Times, undeterred by its failure to find any nuggets by digging through Ashley Kavanaugh’s emails as town manager of Chevy Chase, Maryland–“the records were … mundane dispatches about town business, from snow removals to local newsletters”–has now served a request for the records of any 911 calls made from Judge Kavanaugh’s home for the last 12 years.

    The New York Times requests digital copies of all policing pertaining to Brett Kavanaugh, a resident of Chevy Chase Section 5. Specifically, we request all policing records, including police reports or calls of service (911 calls or otherwise), pertaining to Brett Kavanaugh, his wife, and their home address.

  157. Ellen of Tasmania

    Entry qualifications for teaching are a lot like payment requirements in a hillbilly surgery.
    A decent pig will get you into a Dip. Ed.

    One of the Aussies that Molyneux interviewed (see Zyconoclast #2803924, posted on August 28, 2018 at 1:20 pm) said she was a teacher.

    And the Powers That Be try to tell you that parents are ‘unqualified’ to teach their own children. Sigh.

  158. John Constantine

    When stabby mcstabbyface signs a treaty that was never presented to the Australian people as an election platform, the proles are bound to obey their orders eternally and without question.

    Or frankenbishop will go on their ABC bully pulpit and denounce obsolete racists for ignorance and sullenness.

    Comrades.

  159. zyconoclast

    A Truckload of Nike Shoes, Left as ‘Bait,’ Stings Chicago

    CHICAGO — Even in a city rife with distrust of law enforcement, residents were shocked by the sting operation: A tractor-trailer filled with Nike sneakers parked in an impoverished neighborhood on the South Side.

    The “bait truck” was left there earlier this month to lure would-be thieves into a trap, the authorities said. Three men were arrested on charges of stealing from the truck, prompting outrage in the community where faith in the police is already at a low point.

  160. Makka

    Seems they were celebrating their victory over the clergy.

    Too true. Victory parades. Also celebrated and cheered on by the media , the entertainment industry, our political elites and assorted hangers on.

    It’s not the same country.

  161. Ellen of Tasmania

    What’s Anne on about?

    I suspect she’s been Qanon-ed.

  162. Caveman

    Whats the bet Dan Andrews cant remember his dream and Victorian government has to hand over $1 Billion in compensation.

  163. Very likely, Caveman, but I think you’re lowballing the compensation.

  164. Makka

    Scomo has already indicated that he will be doing SFA about our immigration numbers. Smoke and mirrors with a new Minister for Population. Horseshit in other words. The population ponzi will continue

    Now;

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is reportedly resisting calls to ditch a commitment to the Paris climate change targets because it could harm a free trade deal with Europe.

    Mr Morrison is under internal pressure to abandon the emissions reduction targets after last week’s controversial Liberal leadership turmoil.

    The Australian Financial Review reported on Tuesday the coalition will maintain the Paris commitment, despite uncertainty over how it will reach the goal to cut emissions to 26 per cent, from 28 per cent on 2005 levels, by 2030.

    So from 2 of the 3 most important issues concerning the nation ( Taxation, immigration and energy costs) , Scomo has already shown that he is adhering to Turdball’s globalist policies.

    Lipstick on a pig. Burn the Lib house to the ground.

  165. Tom

    Monty, SEN’s profitability has nothing to do with Hutchison. In fact, it is in spite of him. Because SEN has a helluva commercial-sales department, Pacific Star Network a year ago reported an underlying EBIT of $2.5 million. After the takeover by Crocmedia and Hutchison’s idiotic spending spree on Whateley, as well as what I expect to be Crocmedia’s raiding of Pacific Star’s cash flow, if Pacific Star reports EBIT at the coming annual meeting of even $1m, it will be a miracle and totally attributable to the strength of the business before Hutchison arrived.

  166. zyconoclast

    So from 2 of the 3 most important issues concerning the nation ( Taxation, immigration and energy costs) , Scomo has already shown that he is adhering to Turdball’s globalist policies.

    That’s why Maocolm waited until after the Ministry was sworn in before he resigned his seat?

  167. Makka

    That’s why Maocolm waited until after the Ministry was sworn in before he resigned his seat?

    Not sure it matters. Whoever comes in to replace him will fall into line similarly.

    Scomo isn’t even Turdball light. There is no distinction I can discern as yet.

  168. There is no distinction I can discern as yet.

    Mo doesn’t have as many mirrors.

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Green groups savage Joyce’s drought plan

    By Matt Coughlan
    Australian Associated Press
    16 minutes ago August 28, 2018

    Environmentalists have lashed Barnaby Joyce’s call to divert water to drought-stricken farmers, labelling the special drought envoy’s “kneejerk” plan as ill-informed.

    The former Nationals leader made a splash as he kicked off his new job, calling for environmental water from the Murray-Darling Basin Plan to be used to grow fodder for stock.

    “You either accept this is a national emergency and you’re going to do something distinct to deal with it or you just say ‘no, no, we really like the pictures of starving cattle’,” he told ABC radio on Tuesday.

    “The water that is going to the environment is going past the irrigation properties that grow the fodder to keep cattle alive.”

    But the Australian Conservation Foundation’s Paul Sinclair said the Murray-Darling river system was also suffering through the drought.

    “Mr Joyce’s kneejerk and ill-informed reaction risks the health of flood plains, wetlands and wildlife, not to mention the communities downstream that rely on a living river for their livelihoods,” Dr Sinclair said.

    He said water clawed back from irrigators cost the government billions, and needed to be used to make sure everyone could benefit from a healthy river.

    Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young slammed Mr Joyce’s plan, saying he should ask his “corporate irrigator mates” to help drought-affected farmers.

    “Barnaby Joyce has used his first day on the job to go back to his old tricks – trying to rip water off of the environment,” Senator Hanson-Young said.

    From the Oz. In a just world Sarah Hanson Young would be called on to explain, face to face, to a group of drought struck farmers, how the environment is more important then their livelihoods. I shouldn’t imagine they would lynch her…

  170. The Barking Toad

    I shouldn’t imagine they would lynch her…

    Much

  171. Top Ender

    Shorten treads carefully on ‘Bring back Emma’ push for Husar

    Bill Shorten faces a lobbying effort inside the ALP to “reinstate” Labor MP Emma Husar as a party candidate at the next federal election in the wake of an inquiry finding “no basis” for her resignation from parliament over staff bullying allegations.

    In a request that reportedly comes from Ms Husar herself, party branches in Sydney’s west are being urged to mobilise members and have them contact Labor’s leader directly as part of a “Bring Back Emma” campaign.

    Ms Husar announced early this month, two days before summary findings of an internal party report about her treatment of staff was released by the NSW ALP’s head office, that she would not run again at the next election, despite being the endorsed candidate for Lindsay in Sydney’s west.

    The internal party report by barrister John Whelan, following a six-month investigation, concluded there was “merit” in allegations made by electorate staff about Ms Husar’s mismanagement and unreasonable demands placed on them. Mr Whelan said he “generally favoured” their “perception of events”.

    But the report summary also seemed to soften Mr Whelan’s verdict by declining to support claims of sexual harassment and lewd conduct, and his finding that “no basis” existed for Ms Husar’s resignation from parliament seems to have given heart to backers of the first-time MP who want her to stay.

    With a local branch supporter and friend Peggy Willcox also collecting names for a “Bring Back Husar” petition to be presented to Mr Shorten, it also seems Ms Husar could be having second thoughts about quitting.

    An emailed circular sent to ALP branches in Sydney’s west asks that a promotional video link for an ABC 7.30 program interview with Ms Husar expected to air Tuesday night be forwarded to branch members.

    “As well, Emma asks if you can request our members to contact Bill Shorten, asking him to reinstate Emma as the candidate for Lindsay,” it says.

    Mr Shorten was asked directly yesterday if he had spoken to Ms Husar about her reportedly wanting him to reinstate her as the candidate in Lindsay, which Labor held with a 1.1 margin at the last election.

    “Not yet,” Mr Shorten said. “That’ll be a matter for NSW to pick the candidate for Lindsay.”

    Mr Shorten’s carefully-worded reply reflects how the NSW ALP says it has already accepted Ms Husar’s resignation, and intends no U-turn on this decision after calling for expressions of interests ahead of a fresh preselection ballot soon.

    Although Ms Husar has not submitted a formal letter of resignation, the NSW ALP head office is treating emailed public comments of her stated decision not to recontest as confirmation.

    In an interview with the ABC’s Leigh Sales for 7.30 , Ms Husar is expected to deny allegations against her, hitting out at former staff, and the role played by the ALP’s NSW head office. She says in a promotional video for the program that she said wouldn’t recontest Lindsay earlier this month because of the media focus on her and “slut shaming” from leaked allegations about her conduct that were false.

    At this stage, Ms Husar seems to be at political war with the NSW head office of her party and its general secretary Kaila Murnain.

    But communication lines and a cordial relationship apparently still exist with Mr Shorten’s office, which has been handling media inquiries for her until recently.

    The Australian asked Ms Husar for comment through her solicitor, Amy Carr, but received no response.

  172. Monty, SEN’s profitability has nothing to do with Hutchison. In fact, it is in spite of him. Because SEN has a helluva commercial-sales department, Pacific Star Network a year ago reported an underlying EBIT of $2.5 million. After the takeover by Crocmedia and Hutchison’s idiotic spending spree on Whateley, as well as what I expect to be Crocmedia’s raiding of Pacific Star’s cash flow, if Pacific Star reports EBIT at the coming annual meeting of even $1m, it will be a miracle and totally attributable to the strength of the business before Hutchison arrived.

    So why did the previous owners sell then? Did they get fair price?

  173. notafan

    Anne now channelling srr and the Fiona Barnett tripe

    sink lower

  174. Tel

    “Mr Joyce’s kneejerk and ill-informed reaction risks the health of flood plains, wetlands and wildlife, not to mention the communities downstream that rely on a living river for their livelihoods,” Dr Sinclair said.

    What is a “healthy” flood plain supposed to look like during a drought? Is it “healthy” only when it floods, or only when it is a flat plain?

    The guys use words, but the words don’t fit together into any meaningful construct. A person can be healthy or unhealthy, and animal can be healthy or unhealthy, a tree or any plant can be healthy or unhealthy. This properly does not apply to geological features. There’s no way to decide whether the Great Dividing Range is a healthy mountain range or not.

  175. Tom

    So why did the previous owners sell then? Did they get fair price?

    Capitalism. Isn’t it great? The same system you’re using while you campaign for communism (which would confiscate your business after the revolution).

  176. pete m

    zyconoclast
    #2803975, posted on August 28, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    A Truckload of Nike Shoes, Left as ‘Bait,’ Stings Chicago
    CHICAGO — Even in a city rife with distrust of law enforcement, residents were shocked by the sting operation: A tractor-trailer filled with Nike sneakers parked in an impoverished neighborhood on the South Side.
    The “bait truck” was left there earlier this month to lure would-be thieves into a trap, the authorities said. Three men were arrested on charges of stealing from the truck, prompting outrage in the community where faith in the police is already at a low point.

    Uncovered meat?

    Nikees did a runner?

    Sneakers pinged in police sting.

  177. pete m

    Anne, so long as you just post here, it’s all good. Please do not post such stuff using your real name anywhere else – ie facebook. Think of your family.

  178. H B Bear

    What is a “healthy” flood plain supposed to look like during a drought?

    Plenty over on Quadrant on the myth of the River Red gum flood plain. Another vastly modified landscape passed off as being an enduring feature of the Australian landscape by Big Green. What do they have to say about historical photos of the Murray River as a series of billabongs?

  179. Capitalism. Isn’t it great?

    If he got fair price then he’s within his rights to raid the cashflow.

    Not as if Macquarie is offering much competition.

  180. Andreas

    Smoke and mirrors with a new Minister for Population. Horseshit in other words. The population ponzi will continue

    KRudd first came up with a Minister for Population, which Gillard later turned into the Minister for Sustainable Population, both while packing in the voteherds.

    Libtards borrowing from the Labor playbook, I’m sure that will win you votes.

  181. Makka

    Long post.

    Brilliant Latham.

    When Matt Damon starred in the movie Downsizing earlier this year, he could not have known he was providing a role model for Australia’s Left-wing media.

    The press gallery consistently told us the opposition to Malcolm Turnbull inside the Liberal Party was a parliamentary rump.

    It was supposed to be a small band of malcontents: Tony Abbott, Craig Kelly, Kevin Andrews, Eric Abetz and a few others. They were written up as ‘the usual suspects’.

    But on Tuesday last week, when the Liberal leadership was declared vacant, we found out the rump of six or seven was actually 35.

    By Friday, it had grow to 45 Liberal MPs who wanted to see the back of Turnbull.

    Mr Harbourside Mansion was forced to drive to a lakeside mansion, Yarralumla, to hand in his commission as Prime Minister.

    The truth was out there. The media had been downsizing the scale of anti-Turnbull sentiment – another example of Fake News.

    In Damon’s Downsizing the world faces an environmental disaster, forcing scientists to shrink people and buildings to one percent of their normal size, reducing the drain on the Earth’s resources.

    It’s an apt metaphor for Turnbull’s mismanagement of energy policy. He also had an apocalyptic view of the future, panicking with the development of a flawed, high-risk policy (National Energy Guarantee) that moved Australia closer to 100 percent renewable energy.

    Australia should be a global energy super-power with flourishing nuclear, renewable, coal and gas industries. The increased supply from this diversified energy base would drive down prices.

    It is sometimes claimed that renewable wind turbines send people loco. Perhaps there’s one in the Canberra press gallery.

    Throughout the Turnbull era, his media fan club told him to ignore Sky News because “nobody watches it”.

    Similarly, they thought he could snub Alan Jones and Ray Hadley on Sydney Radio 2GB because “they are preaching to a small political fringe, the far-right conservatives.”

    Yet when the Liberal Party dumped Turnbull, whom did the Left media blame?

    It wasn’t Malcolm himself. His failures on personal income tax reform, Big Australia immigration policy, housing affordability, sluggish wages growth, rising electricity prices and divisive identity politics were conveniently ignored.

    Led by Channel Nine’s Chris Uhlmann (an ex-ABC presenter married to a Labor MP), they blamed Sky, Jones and Hadley. The powerless had become all-powerful, an example of upsizing.

    This is the problem with the Fake News Media. They lack consistency.

    No sooner had Malcolm and Lucy started cleaning out The Lodge, making way for the Morrisons, but the press gallery went back to downsizing.

    They tried to convince the new Prime Minister to ignore the views of conservative voters, depicting them as a handful of extremists you could fit into a phone box in Penrith.

    The ABC’s Laura Tingle said the conservative base “remains a small thing”.

    Fairfax’s Jacqueline Maley declared the Right-wing “rump or lump within the Coalition” to be “very unrepresentative of mainstream Australian values.”

    The ubiquitous Malcolm Cate McGregor depicted “the Liberal Party base as shrill broadcasters and unrepresentative ideologues (who) are all out-of-touch with voters.”

    In fact, the fastest growing part of the Australian electorate are people who want to conserve the best parts of our country.

    Some used to vote Labor. Many are disillusioned Liberals and Nationals. Still more have rallied around One Nation and other minor parties fighting to defend the principles of Western civilisation.

    These ‘conservatives’ think Australia was a stronger nation 10 years ago.

    Before merit selection was abolished in favour of judging people by their race, gender and sexuality.

    Before their sons were discriminated against, simply for being white and being male.

    Before the Left invented the wacky myths of ‘white male privilege’, ‘unconscious bias’ and ‘cultural appropriation’.

    Before Safe Schools tried to pollute the minds of young people by telling boys and girls they can change their gender as easily as they change their iPhones.

    Before universities segregated young Australians away from each other with the absurdity of ‘safe spaces’.

    Before staring at a good-looking woman was redefined as ‘sexual harassment’ on university campuses, with students forced into ‘stick-figure’ consent courses.

    Before our military had their fighting symbols removed and painted their fingernails pink.

    Before the police force and fire brigade put ‘gender equality’ ahead of public safety, with the best person for the job no longer getting the job.

    Before the outrage industry tried to control our language and limit our larrikin spirit with repressive PC-censorship.

    Before Australian GDP growth relied almost entirely on huge immigration numbers – overcrowding our cities, pricing young people out of home ownership and flooding the labour market to hold down wages.

    Before electricity prices went through the roof and government energy policy fell apart.

    Before our schools fell behind Kazakhstan and other Third World countries on international league tables of academic success.

    Before the political system became a joke with a revolving door Prime Ministership.

    Australia in 2007 was worth conserving. Since then the nation has changed direction.

    Vast numbers of smart, fair-minded Australians believe it’s gone the wrong way.

    Why did Turnbull lose the Liberal leadership? It’s not rocket science: he ignored the new conservative constituency and its concerns, a political neglect reflected in 38 consecutive Newspoll losses (8 more than his own benchmark).

    He ignored them, so they downsized him.

  182. Brilliant Latham.

    +1 many

    Vote for any pollie that agrees and acts on that.

  183. Fleeced

    Shorten’s attack of Julie Bishop being considered for GG is funny… I mean, she shouldn’t get the job, but it’s such a bad play of the hand – and he has a good hand. She may now get the job whereas she previously would not have. If I thought he was smart, I’d think that’s what he wanted (but I don’t).

    I’d said before that the Libs have no reason to buy her off with such a position, since she has no power… but as CL points out, if she hangs around, she could be a problem in opposition. Funnily enough, that is of no concern to ScoMo – the one person who has power to give her something.

    I’ve decided to just make a game out of seeing how it all unfolds. We’re doomed either way, so we might as well have some fun watching it all burn. Haven’t seen a bonfire this big since they banned firecracker night.

  184. cohenite

    The left’s new approach: Trump has not fucked the US, therefore his presidency can be annulled.

  185. Speedbox

    According to AEMO, Wind and Other is about 3.5% of demand.

    Pathetic.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    So why did the previous owners sell then? Did they get fair price?

    They probably did, Monty, but I’ll let you in on the commercial concept of goodwill and, in this case, the destruction of goodwill.
    In commercial radio this ultimately comes back to:-
    (1) the raw quantity of listeners;
    (2) the quality of listening. Are they casual listeners wading through the tripe until they get to what they want to hear? For example, a Collingwood supporter might be passively listening until the Magpies get a mention;
    (3) “dial stickiness”. This is less true in the digital age, but having the radio set on SEN, or at least among your presets is critical for the station’s success;
    On point (1) SEN is losing the raw quantity of listeners hand-over-fist, which is indisputable. As for point (2) they are also losing the level of engagement from the remaining listeners. People are simply rolling their eyes at the sanctimonious hectoring. Some will grit their teeth and hang on until some actual sport comes on, but eventually that transaction becomes too expensive, and they flick in and out.
    Next comes step (3) when they get a new car or a new device. The dial becomes very viscous at this point and they just slide away.
    The initial signs of incipient failure would be scaring the shit out of any media professional.
    Tom is right.
    The momentum is all downwards, and momentum being what it is, it will be almost impossible to arrest the slide.

  187. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2803826, posted on August 28, 2018 at 11:38 am
    I defy any Catholic on this site to take a look at that Satanic Snake Papal Audience Hall and that disgusting abomination of a Nuclear Jesus statue and tell me the Church has not completely and utterly lost it’s way and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch by righteous young non gay non kid r$pist men completely unaffiliated with any of the current hierarchy.

    I’m waiting.

    Still waiting Catholics.
    Amen.

    😁

  188. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2804001, posted on August 28, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    Capitalism. Isn’t it great?

    If he got fair price then he’s within his rights to raid the cashflow.

    You are contradicting yourself Monty, if according to you, he is such a good salesman, then he doesn’t need to.

  189. C.L.

    Rob Tibbetts has not commented publicly on the topic. But in his eulogy he highlighted how the local Hispanic community had embraced him as he searched for his daughter.

    “The Hispanic community are Iowans. They have the same values as Iowans,” he said, including an emphasis on family. “As far as I’m concerned, they’re Iowans with better food.”

    Oh isn’t that nice … dad sees the funny side of his daughter’s homicide.

  190. pete m

    The left – deranged and ill.

  191. thefrolickingmole

    Who was it had the theory on knives and forks and flying abilities??
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/28/nepal-plane-crash-caused-by-emotionally-disturbed-captain
    A plane crash at Nepal’s international airport that killed 51 people happened because the captain suffered an “emotional breakdown”, a leaked draft of the official investigation has found.

    Investigators said the captain, Abid Sultan, wept during the flight after his skills had been questioned by a co-worker. “This mistrust and stress led him to continuously smoke in the cockpit and also suffer an emotional breakdown several times during the flight,” their report said.

  192. pete m

    Stimpson, it is 1 building and 1 statue. Admittedly very weird, but ask the designers / sculpture WTF they were thinking. The Pope probably let them have free reign on design and got stuck with a lemon.

    The church will survive both this pope and this building.

    You, however, have a very short limited life span, like all of us, in comparison to a church some 1700 years old.

    Relax and smell the roses.

  193. Baldrick

    Why did Turnbull lose the Liberal leadership? It’s not rocket science: he ignored the new conservative constituency and its concerns, a political neglect reflected in 38 consecutive Newspoll losses (8 more than his own benchmark).
    He ignored them, so they downsized him.

    And it won’t stop there. The Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party will be downsized at the next election.

  194. Still waiting Catholics.

    Sorry, Stimp, but you don’t rebuild anything by punishing the innocent as well as the guilty.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Conservatives call on NZ Government to bar Chelsea Manning visit

    By Aap
    AAP
    2 minutes ago August 28, 2018

    Opposition politicians have called for convicted United States whistleblower Chelsea Manning to be banned from entering New Zealand.

    Ms Manning, a former US army intelligence analyst best known as a leaker of classified military and diplomatic documents, is scheduled to speak in Australia and New Zealand next month.

    But because her 35-year sentence was commuted, not pardoned, by former president Barack Obama, she still has a standing conviction and will have to request special dispensation to be granted a visa to visit New Zealand. The centre-right National Party on Tuesday called for the government to decline that request, saying Ms Manning was a “felon”

    “Chelsea Manning used a position of responsibility and authority to steal hundreds of thousands of documents that may well have put American lives at risk,” party immigration spokesperson and former minister Michael Woodhouse told Radio New Zealand.

    “This is not a question of free speech. [Ms Manning] is free absolutely to say whatever she wants but she’s not free to travel wherever she wants. Other countries have already denied her entry.” It was inappropriate for Ms Manning to make money by talking about her crimes, Mr Woodhouse said.

    But lobby group the Free Speech Coalition swiftly condemned the calls to bar Ms Manning.

    “There are other examples of previously convicted criminals that have been allowed entry into New Zealand. Nelson Mandela was allowed entrance in 1995,” spokesman Chris Trotter said.

    From the Oz.

  196. Mother Lode;
    Leave Our Annie alone.
    The black helicopters are detectable not by their lack of sound, but by their down draft.
    Here’s proof – 1 Black Helicopter (Out of frame) above MM.

  197. Tintarella di Luna

    And it won’t stop there. The Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party will be downsized at the next election.

    And I hope the Australian Conservatives , One Nation, and other minors who want to downsize immigration, electricity prices, and government, will be upsized.

  198. thefrolickingmole

    Germans getting ready to go Reichtangle again??

    Merkel condemns xenophobic riots after killing of German man
    Chancellor says far-right protests in eastern city of Chemnitz ‘have no place in our country’

    long story short German murdered people upset/protesting and allegations of violence.

    But check the pic of what sort of monuments the Germans leave in place….
    A great big bust/building sized quote from Marx

  199. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sorry, Stimp, but you don’t rebuild anything by punishing the innocent as well as the guilty.

    If you are in the Vatican, or The Church, or any of it’s associates and you know about kid r$ping be it firsthand or rumor or otherwise, and you do nothing about it, you are guilty.
    It’s really very simple.

  200. Makka

    Stimpson, it is 1 building and 1 statue. Admittedly very weird, but ask the designers / sculpture WTF they were thinking. The Pope probably let them have free reign on design and got stuck with a lemon.

    The church will survive both this pope and this building.

    No pete. It’s not weird. It’s sick. And for the church who above many things is very sensitive to symbolism it defies logic that such an abomination should exist. Dismissing it as some stylistic brainfart and an airhead pope is shallow.

    The church probably will survive but in what state? The current crisis has been brewing for decades and the damage wrought could well be all but terminal. The Catholic Church is in seriously deep shit, sad to say.

  201. it is 1 building and 1 statue

    Heavens, I never knew about that terrible building. Modern architecture.

  202. If you are in the Vatican, or The Church, or any of it’s associates and you know about kid r$ping be it firsthand or rumor or otherwise, and you do nothing about it, you are guilty.
    It’s really very simple.

    Hang on. Yes to the first, but what are you actually guilty of if all you’ve got is a rumor. Let’s not turn this into to a hysterical witchhunt.

  203. struth

    So Malcom does care about policy after all.
    UN policy.
    He wanted the PM ship based on his high opinion of himself and saw it as a birth rite.
    The fact is he didn’t care which party but obviously preferred Labor.
    But once he knew he was getting booted, he wanted to make sure he got a good UN boy to replace him.
    It was do or die.
    Why?
    He would have made sure of an election and pulled the Liberal party down with him, preferring UN compliant Labor than a Dutton or an Abbott.

    It’s all about the Paris agreement.
    All of this PM swapping is because they are following UN agendas which goes exactly opposite to what the majority of Aussies want, and no majority asked for.

    Dot requires proof that these people are not actively alliance to a foreign power, for the global socialist UN.
    There is this thing called circumstantial evidence.
    I’d like him to prove they aren’t.

    Nothing is more known to a politician in a democracy than this simple fact.
    They need to win votes.
    There is no advantage to them of signing us up to Paris, especially if they are Liberal Party pollies.
    It makes it harder for them to win votes.
    So why are they doing it?
    Really Dot, how much proof do you need?
    And in the end, with or without proof of corruption, the same outcome of them putting the UN first, means the same outcome for us, with or without proof.

    They are simply traitors and engaging in traitorous actions against our country.
    They are loyal to the UN first and foremost.
    That cannot be denied.
    They’re actions are proof enough.

  204. Mark A

    pete m
    #2804018, posted on August 28, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    The church will survive both this pope and this building.

    Maybe so but it never goes back where it was.
    This way it gradually loses its soul and original purpose.

    Look at the way its rules have been watered down, nobody even blinks at women clergy or homosexual priests anymore.

    Same as with political parties, one side introduces policies detrimental to the country, but the next government never repeals the whole.
    We are lucky if the repeal some of the most egregious parts.

  205. The church probably will survive but in what state? The current crisis has been brewing for decades and the damage wrought could well be all but terminal. The Catholic Church is in seriously deep shit, sad to say.

    We survived the Borgias and worse.

  206. cohenite

    zyconoclast linked to a Stefan Molyneux video earlier where he interviewed brain dead inner city greenies. Their responses to his questions about white privilege, democracy and immigration are despairingly vacuous and entitled and unaware. One young Iraqi refugee says it doesn’t matter that Saudi Arabia does not take in refugees because they are a dictatorship; therefore democracies have to take them all; and the reason, after skilful probing by Molyneux, is revenge; whites are bad and deserve to be punished: watch it and weep:

  207. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes to the first, but what are you actually guilty of if all you’ve got is a rumor. Let’s not turn this into to a hysterical witchhunt.

    No, it’s a kiddy r$pist hunt.
    I don’t know about the Nuns.

  208. Baldrick

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is reportedly resisting calls to ditch a commitment to the Paris climate change targets because it could harm a free trade deal with Europe.

    SloMo ain’t going to be Malcolm Lite, he’ll be Malcolm 2.0.

  209. Confused Old Misfit

    SloMo ain’t going to be Malcolm Lite, he’ll be Malcolm 2.0.

    Time for another palace coup.

  210. Makka

    Yes to the first, but what are you actually guilty of if all you’ve got is a rumor.

    It’s far stronger than a rumor. If it has gotten this bad, the best course of action is to take decisive immediate action against anyone known aiding and abetting;

    Francis shouldn’t be prancing around in Dublin now: he should be signing his resignation letter. He has proven absolutely compromised by the sinful mafia who, led by known homosexual-promoters, such as Danneels and later joined by Bertone, got him elected. Bergoglio’s presence at the top of the Church is an indelible mark of shame and disgrace.

    Indelible, but not unfixable: GET OUT NOW!

    – Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.

  211. Makka

    We survived the Borgias and worse.

    Don’t kid yourself. The internet wasn’t around and the left weren’t so formidable back then. Denial isn’t going to assist the cause one bit.

  212. Fleeced

    SloMo ain’t going to be Malcolm Lite, he’ll be Malcolm 2.0.

    Heh… I just said the exact opposite of this on another thread (that he was Turnbull-Lite rather than 2.0). Either way, it’s shit.

    I’m also not sure Free Trade means what he thinks it does. Free trade means no protectionism (such as subsidies or tariffs). Implementing carbon taxes, regulations and other market impediments on your OWN industries is, I guess, the opposite of protectionism, but it certainly isn’t free trade!

  213. struth

    According to our new U.N.PM, we must close down our electricity generation so we might be able to do a trade deal with the EU……………………………………………….

    FMD.

    The Liberal party are dead, and anyone thinking about Abbott or any of them being conservative are just playing with themselves.
    It does send you blind.
    If you now remain in the Liberal Party, Abbott, you are a traitor to your electorate, just like the rest of the party.

  214. Stimpson J. Cat

    We survived the Borgias and worse.

    You say “We”.
    If you are willing to consider yourself part of The Church, and you fail to remove the monsters from your midst, don’t act holier than thou when people call you out on it.
    Because the simple fact is that you all do as you are told, and you and all the other rank and file Catholics don’t have any actual power to fix the problems, or compel the leadership, or surely you would have done so by now.
    You didn’t even know about the Paul VI Papal Audience Hall built in 1971 and the Resurrection statue built in 1977.
    If you didn’t even know about that abomination then how can you seriously tell me with any surety that the problems in the Church are fixed?

  215. Speedbox

    Edited text from Crisis & Opportunity.

    With the US economy humming and stocks trading at or near all-time highs, why is Trump still such a maligned figure?

    As I pointed out last week, in order to understand the media’s treatment of Trump, you have to see it through the lens of what he campaigned on. Then it all becomes clear.

    Trump taking on the establishment and they are fighting back.

    Let me explain…

    Remember a few weeks ago I told you the US political scene is heating up? It’s all related to the US mid-term elections coming up in November. The Democrats ARE the establishment. Think of Hilary Clinton as a kind of matriarch. They wanted to get the numbers and impeach Trump.

    And they’re doing this with the media’s help. For a long time now, there has been an ongoing investigation into Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia to rig the US election in 2016. The only problem is, there is no evidence to support this claim. When you go down the rabbit hole, the evidence increasingly supports a concerted effort to frame Trump!

    For example, the ‘Steele Dossier’ (that supposedly proves Trump’s collusion with the Russians) was put together by Fusion GPS, a research firm hired by Clinton to ‘investigate’ Trump’s dealings with Russia. It has holes all through it. And they know it. So now they’re getting desperate. Last week, Trump’s associates Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen were in the headlines. Manafort was charged with tax fraud from years ago and Cohen took a plea deal to wriggle out of his tax issues and implicate Trump in a campaign finance issue.

    Following this ‘news’, the calls to impeach Trump grew louder. Some elements of the mainstream media were almost hysterical. Why? Because Trump represents the biggest threat to the establishment in history. He’s an existential threat to the current corrupt political structure in the US. But the impeachment calls died down pretty quickly. There wasn’t any semblance of a case to answer.

    Now, here’s where it gets interesting. Who did Cohen hire to represent him? Lanny Davis, a long time Clinton lawyer! In late July, CNN reported that Cohen had heard Donald Trump Jr tell Donald Sr about an offer to meet with a group of Russians who had dirt on Hillary Clinton.

    Evidence of collusion, it would seem.…

    But wait. Last week, Lanny Davis said that Cohen had no information about the meeting, and that the previous statements were false. He also said the information contained in the Steele Dossier about Cohen was false!

    Why would he say that?

    Perhaps he knows that under investigation it won’t stand up. And the real motive is to inject a narrative into the mainstream media (the initial story) that paints Trump as the bad guy — all for the purpose of swaying the election result in November.

    If so, this is extraordinary. But judging by the market’s reaction, the Dem’s plan is failing. Stocks are at all time highs. If there were genuine concern about an impeachment, you’d see stocks trading far more cautiously.

    Why is this important for Australia? Because where US stocks go, Aussie stocks generally follow. And increased US political instability would not be good for the market.

    But don’t expect the establishment to give up without an ongoing fight. The attacks on Trump will continue right up until the mid-term elections. It’s the last chance they have to stop Trump ‘draining the swamp’.

    Having said that, there is no doubt Trump’s team has plenty of ammunition to fight with too. It’s a war, and it’s going to get ugly. Remember, the first casualty of war is the truth. Keep this in mind when reading the mainstream media.…that’s if you still bother with it.

    The important thing to do is view the war through the correct framework. And that framework is that Trump is trying to bring an end to the systemic corruption that exists in Washington DC, and stop its tentacles spreading even further across the US.

  216. thefrolickingmole

    On the stupidity of clinging to the EU “free trade” deal.

    We will erect internal tariffs against our own industries by making energy prohibitively expensive in order to dodge external tariffs in the EU?

    Its just the swine in our parliament telling themselves its better they garnish the money here rather than allow the cheese eating surrender monkeys impose a fee there.

    It is a stupid, stupid self inflicted tax on our own producers.

  217. Fleeced

    Francis shouldn’t be prancing around in Dublin now: he should be signing his resignation letter.

    When Benedict “retired” I recall Pell expressing concerns about such a move – that holding the post until death was not only an act of service, but it prevented people being forced out. He looked to politics and feared scandals could be weaponised.

    Now, I’m not Catholic, so this post is really none of my business (other than a cultural curiosity), and it seems Francis has been negligent in his duties. Nonetheless, Pell seems to have been on the money. Are they going to have two retired Popes soon? It’ll end up like Australian Prime-Ministership at this rate.

    Again: Not a Catholic – so I’ll leave this for them to tackle.

  218. Chris

    No, it’s a kiddy r$pist hunt.
    I don’t know about the Nuns.

    Been done: Magdalene Laundries in Ireland
    One of these women was in the comment threads at Butterflies and wheels when I used to hang out there at the time of the court hearings. She described how they had their pliers out stringing rosaries in the Gallery while they watched proceedings, as they had had to do as forced labour in the institutions.

    But the nuns most known to us were the amazing women who had run St John of God and St Annes hospitals in Perth. The ABC and VICPOL are not out there investigating the good they did over lifetimes and generations.

  219. Baldrick

    How very ABC

    Stan Grant @StanGrantMOF
    Tonight on #MatterOfFactABC: I discuss the future of conservatism with fmr NSW Labor senator Stephen Loosley, political historian Judith Brett and fmr senior Liberal Party adviser Terry Barnes.

    Really, they couldn’t find one single Conservative to appear on the show?

  220. Makka

    On the stupidity of clinging to the EU “free trade” deal.

    Yes, over emissions targets which even Germany is not embracing apparently. So we slit our throats while the EU slaps it’s wrists. What a lucky country!

    Germany admits will fall far short of 2020 climate target

    https://phys.org/news/2018-06-germany-fall-short-climate.html

  221. struth

    How much proof do you need , dot.

    They are fucking traitors.
    First class pieces of human excrement.

    Malcom’s only mission once he knew he was going, was to put in another UN whore.

    Otherwise a personality like him would not have given one shit who got the job.

  222. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tonight on #MatterOfFactABC: I discuss the future of conservatism

    Maybe it’s just me, but whenever I read the word “Conservatism” I always assume it actually says “Conservationism” and think of Hippy’s.

    I think it’s because I don’t think I’ve ever met or seen a real successful Conservative in my lifetime.

    Is it just me?

  223. struth

    We need to get the socialist UN agenda out of our schools, our councils, our state and federal government.
    The UN has very specific goals for education, that they do not hide.
    It is being implemented with gusto in Australia.
    The councils have signed up to their “act locally” enviro bullshit with the UN.

    Our governments have been corrupted by global socialism, and the only way to get it out is to kill off the implementation of all UN agenda in Australia.
    It’s pure western wrecking, global Socialism.

  224. Leo G;

    It might be worth rolling out an autonomous vehicle railway network for moving non-ISO standard shipping containers between commercial/hubs ( ie 10-foot and 8-foot containers). The effect would be massively reduce commercial traffic on city roads and increase the effectiveness of the motor car (including autonomous cars) in its mass transit role.

    I often go past railtracks and see the occasional Landcruiser fitted with train wheels going for a run between work sites.
    How feasible would it be to attach a truck with running gear to allow rails instead of roads to be used to pull up to, say, eight containers?

  225. Chris

    Otherwise a personality like him would not have given one shit who got the job.

    He’s too small-minded and vidictive to be a globalist. It was ‘anyone that doesn’t make Tony Abbott look like a winner’.

    And I confess as little as I like the backstabbers, I think it much more likely that the new crew of weasels would win the next election than if TA were made PM again. The implacable hatred of the media class makes it an uphill struggle for A-666 to win.
    Still, I have not cancelled my suicide bombing plan to vote Liars this time; only if ScoMo makes good steps to win back the average DelCon will I not do so.

  226. Chris

    I think it’s because I don’t think I’ve ever met or seen a real successful Conservative in my lifetime.

    Is it just me?

    It’s not just you.

  227. If you are not a “progressive” you are a “regressive”.

    I am a regressive. Proud and defiant regressive.

    Yes. I want to return to an 7c per kwh electricity bill and a gas bill that was small change.
    Yes. I want to return to a world where schools don’t teach small boys how to cut their dicks off.

  228. Makka

    He’s too small-minded and vidictive to be a globalist.

    Don’t be so naive, Chris. Of course he is vindictive. He is also most definitely a globalist, a GS alumnus.

    Struth is correct in his assessment of Turdball.

  229. Top Ender

    Black helicopters can also be distinguished by:

    – their sound ray weapons which issue sound waves only audible to certain special people

    – light ray weapons which emit ultra-high radiation waves

    – being able to be defeated by wearing an aluminium foil hat.

    These things are only known to special people.

  230. Death Giraffe

    If no one else has already done so, I’m opening the books on Popelotto.

  231. struth

    He’s too small-minded and vidictive to be a globalist.

    Actually, they are just the personality requirements needed of a socialist.

  232. JC

    The stuff I read about turnbulls son making a lot of money from buying the assets of the clapped out Babcock and Brown remanent is very disturbing.

    This is the stuff for a serious judicial inquiry.

    In fact, there’s no better idea for a royal commission than to look into the mass gang banging of the country by the renewballists. It’s so ugly no porn site would show it.

  233. John Constantine

    The best thing Australia can do for the world is to hold a royal commission, or failing that, a Senate committee into Alexander Downer and why he did what he did to set up Trump, who paid and who wrote the script and who rubber stamped the mission.

    Would their Clinton crime cartel really arkancide people trying to reveal the truth?.

    Comrades?.

  234. Makka

    These things are only known to special people.

    Stick to military history TE.

    Special people were slurred with the tin foil hat meme when exposing MKUltra. Of course, the CIA has abandoned it all now, right? Nothing to see here.

  235. John Constantine

    Their ABC gets a billion dollars a year to do the stories that speak truth to power, why not investigate this most corrupt of bastardry, this political interference and attempted overthrow of our American allies government by Downer?.

    Comrades?.

  236. Tel

    The best thing Australia can do for the world is to hold a royal commission, or failing that, a Senate committee into Alexander Downer and why he did what he did to set up Trump, who paid and who wrote the script and who rubber stamped the mission.

    Would be fascinating… but who in the current government (or opposition) would be crazy enough to press that red button?

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