Wednesday Forum: August 29, 2018

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  1. cohenite

    What if you build a strategic nuclear device out of lego?

    They did at Chernobyl.

  2. Stimpson J. Cat

    A principled doctor, psychiatrist or psychologist can rat out a child r$pist at any time folks, for the good of the general public, legally.
    Yet a principled priest will not.
    I think that gives us all something to think about.

  3. cohenite

    Trump is a crook, his Cabinet is mostly crooks, his organisation is full of crooks and his family are crooks.

    The troll is channelling the Clintons again.

  4. Beertruk

    Senile Old Guy
    #2806367, posted on August 31, 2018 at 1:28 pm
    More nannies:

    Children may be banned from playing with toy guns, fake plastic swords and even Lego due to fears they encourage violent behaviour. Games such as ‘cops and robbers’ and mock bows and arrows could be barred at preschools as childcare centres try and stamp out what they believe is ‘violent’ behaviour. Australian Childcare Alliance NSW president Lyn Connolly said children who want to make a gun from Lego blocks should be told ‘how they can hurt people’.

    These people are insane.

    And yet this is ok:

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2806347, posted on August 31, 2018 at 1:00 pm
    Melbourne’s new safe injecting room is set to be expanded just months after opening in an inner-city overdose hotspot. About 8000 people have used the supervised injecting room at the North Richmond Community Health Centre since late June and staff have responded to 140 overdoses, the government says. Construction on a purpose-built $4.9 million publicly-funded facility in the centre’s car park is due to begin in September. The new building aims to keep up with high demand for the injecting room and boost treatment and counselling provided.

    Unfricken believable. Kids might as well start shooting up drugs at school because ‘injecting room good’ but ‘toy guns and lego…bad.’

  5. notafan

    What can I say Snoopy?

  6. C.L.

    Pacific island nations made up all of the top 10 spots in countries with the highest percentages of obese people.

    Fascinating era we live in. Today’s “poor” are the fattest people of all.
    Work that out.

  7. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Fascinating era we live in. Today’s “poor” are the fattest people of all.
    Work that out.

    Carbs are cheap.

  8. Ivan Denisovich

    Yet a principled priest will not.
    I think that gives us all something to think about.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australia-passes-law-requiring-priests-to-break-seal-of-confession-bishop-p

  9. Habib

    They ate all the skinny bastards.

  10. Makka

    Risdsale never went to confession.

    He may well have confessed to another priest. You have no ideaif Risdale confessed to or not. Like it or not, the Vatican has been outed by one of it’s very own and very senior as covering up for decades of systemic child abuse. The rot is at the very top and we all know what rolls down from there.

    So, when I see defence of the Church or its rites on these very issues, I cant help but think it is doing further damage. At present the Church’s actions, lack of, and it’s whole handling of this despicable situation is appalling. Indefensible. Catholics would be better off piling on pressure from below onto our local clergy for actions rather than publicly defending the obvious sick rot infesting our church.

  11. Stimpson J. Cat

    Never argue with a compulsive obsessive.

    I actually have OCD.
    Seriously.
    It is really annoying.
    😁

  12. A principled doctor, psychiatrist or psychologist can rat out a child r$pist at any time folks, for the good of the general public, legally.
    Yet a principled priest will not.

    This is contemptible rubbish, Stimp.

  13. Geriatric Mayfly

    They ate all the skinny bastards.

    Fact check. True. Noel Coward on seeing Queen Salotte and her equerry going by at a coronation in London, was asked who is that thin chap in the carriage. Coward replied, ‘That’s her lunch.’

  14. notafan

    He may well have confessed to another priest. You have no ideaif Risdale confessed to or not.

    Actually we do know it

    insofar as he has made a statement claiming to have never gone to confession

    I mean, why would such an evil man do so-he cannot claim to be in ignorance

  15. Lysander

    So, when I see defence of the Church or its rites on these very issues, I cant help but think it is doing further damage.

    Makka, Archbishop Coleridge made it clear: “It’s a law that’s impossible and impractical as it can’t be implemented.” The proposed law is almost as ludicrous as having to wear red undies on your head to win a government bid off Conroy. For example:

    -Some sicko comes and actually confesses what they did;
    -They’re behind a screen or they make sure they go to a confessional that has a screen;
    -They probably don’t go to their usual parish priest to confess this;
    -The priest doesn’t know who they are;
    -The priest reports that someone in the Church whom he has never seen and doesn’t know committed a crime;
    -The police ask for evidence;
    -The priest says “I heard him.”
    -Case closed.

  16. Lysander

    I actually have OCD.

    Evidently not (otherwise you’d have put it into alphabetical order as CDO).

  17. Habib

    GM, the version I heard was it was Haile Selassie in the carriage. Either way it was a great gag, and one that would have had him set on fire now.

  18. Makka

    Actually we do know it

    insofar as he has made a statement claiming to have never gone to confession

    Yes. Highly honorable person that he is. He’s never lied this Ridsdale.

    You or anyone cannot claim to know the mental contortions of this evil POS so don’t try to convince others that somehow now he’s telling the truth about confessing, about anything. His whole life as a priest was one great big fkg LIE.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    the version I heard was it was Haile Selassie in the carriage

    Habib. I have lapsed again on an historical technicality. I knew it wasn’t an equerry, but the ageing memory couldn’t summon the correct identity of the tasty morsel. For those not in the know, Queen Salotte was a ginormous monarch from the South Seas.

  20. Myrddin Seren

    Australian Childcare Alliance NSW president Lyn Connolly said children who want to make a gun from Lego blocks should be told ‘how they can hurt people’.

    Translation:

    ‘Despite all our best efforts, boys continue to be boys. This has to stop and if we can’t get boys to modify boyish behaviour by proscription, then we are going to have to mass tranq the lot of them’.

  21. Zyconoclast

    Who pays for this?

    Perth clinic offers bulk-billed IVF treatment in WA first

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/10185106

  22. cohenite

    Delaney’s Story: Be A Climate Voter

    The cries from this young porker and many others like her when the consequences of her alarmism result in the lights going out and Western society going backwards a century or 2 will be a meagre consolation but one none the less.

  23. Habib

    I think the polite term is “big boned”.

  24. notafan

    Contortions Makka

    The premise opf this law is that Risdale must have! just must have! confessed to Cardinal Pell, after all they shared a house for a year!

    He says he never went, and sure he could be lying about that but on all the evidence of the man he was why would he bother going to confession?

    Risdale’s only reason to lie would be to protect the Church, and clearly he has no interest in doing that.

    It is completely illogical that he would bother, even to tick some box.

    Don’t forget Mulkearns got a letter from a parishioner complaining about Ridslade and sent him to the US for treatment-so he knew-from outside the confessional.

  25. He may well have confessed to another priest. You have no ideaif Risdale confessed to or not.

    So you have no idea if anyone convicted of such a crime had actually confessed, etc.

    Like it or not, the Vatican has been outed by one of it’s very own and very senior as covering up for decades of systemic child abuse. The rot is at the very top and we all know what rolls down from there.

    Yes, this Pope has been outed, it appears, by a former Papal Nuncio for reversing a ban on McCarrick and removing Cardinal Müller and three others who were taking a hard stance against sexual abuse as directed by Pope Benedict.

    So, when I see defence of the Church or its rites on these very issues, I cant help but think it is doing further damage.

    Which is why we have chancers actually pointing towards these rites, etc.

    At present the Church’s actions, lack of, and it’s whole handling of this despicable situation is appalling. Indefensible. Catholics would be better off piling on pressure from below onto our local clergy for actions rather than publicly defending the obvious sick rot infesting our church.

    Sorry, but no. You can at once publicly defend what is innocent as well as attack and remove the guilty.

  26. Lysander

    Yes. Highly honorable person that he is. He’s never lied this Ridsdale.

    You or anyone cannot claim to know the mental contortions of this evil POS so don’t try to convince others that somehow now he’s telling the truth about confessing, about anything. His whole life as a priest was one great big fkg LIE.

    Makka; interesting reasoning from you: “you can’t trust Risdale” (which I agree) because “his whole life was one great big fkg LIE” (which I agree) so this makes it more likely he went to confession to tell the truth? How’s that working out for you?

  27. Makka

    You miss my point Lysander.

    IMO, Catholics are doing the Church no good, at this point in time, defending against imposts (well meant or not) to prevent child abuse, uncover child abuse or alter rites to achieve that end. All this does is further those voices yelling “Child Abuse Cover Up!!!”

    It’s time for real action at Vatican level on down to purge the filth. Fully. Completely. Nothing less will suffice to arrest the generational harm and massive loss of credibility and faith in the Church. That needs to be done quietly and effectively. It will take years, perhaps a decade and more. The time for open public defence is past. Introspection and decisive action is now the best path.

  28. notafan

    And I think it was Brennan SJ, no lover of Cardinal Pell that admitted that not once had he ever heard someone confess to child sexual abuse.

  29. Makka

    so this makes it more likely he went to confession to tell the truth? How’s that working out for you?

    I didn’t say he did. I said nobody knows and that his life was a lie. So it’s dumb to hang your hat on his statement. Dood enough reasoning for you?

    And if you can’t argue this issue without verballing me then you can fk off.

  30. Geriatric Mayfly

    There’s enough points emerging on this thread regarding Popes and clergy to almost number 97. Is someone going to collate them and nail them to a church door?

  31. notafan

    Breaking the seal does not ‘prevent’ child abuse.

    Confession is for sins already committed.

    You really think an unrepentant serial abuser is going to roll up t0 confession?

    This is only about putting priests in prison and undermining religious freedom of Catholics

  32. rickw

    Yet a principled priest will not.
    I think that gives us all something to think about.

    Is there a documented case of this ever happening?

    Sounds like a hypothetical issue only.

  33. Zyconoclast

    New education program integrates Aboriginal culture into teaching maths and science

    A group of passionate educators are taking Aboriginal students from the classroom to the campfire to spark a love of science, technology and maths.
    Demand is high for spots in a new, hands-on initiative that takes the form of overnight camps, where yarning and dance circles set the scene for workshops taught by Aboriginal leaders.
    Students attending the camps learn their angles through the art of spear making, and aerodynamics by studying boomerangs and drones.

    They learn about magnetism through storytelling, and understand chemistry through bush medicine.
    “We firmly believe our kids need a western education, but it can’t be at the expense of their cultural identity,” Aboriginal educator and Wiradjuri woman Cindy Berwick said.
    “These camps teach science, technology, engineering and maths (STEM) subjects through a cultural lens to inspire students.

    Ms Berwick is president of the New South Wales Aboriginal Education Consultative Group (AECG), which co-ordinates the camps in conjunction with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Maths Alliance.
    The two organisations paired four years ago to help develop the next generation of scientists, mathematicians and engineers.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-31/boomerangles-learning-maths-and-chemistry-through-culture/10174930

  34. Lysander

    I think Nota has provided ample evidence that strongly suggests he didn’t go to confession. Yes. We will never know; but I’m leaning toward Nota’s view that it is very likely he didn’t. You do yourself no favours Makka by claiming someone lives a life that is one big lie and leaning the other way to suggest he did something honourable by going to confession.

    I 100% agree a purge needs to take place; but it aint in the confessional. And I think that it needs to start with homosexuals in the Church (the elephant nobody ever mentions because they’re too scared); particularly priestly ones.

  35. Makka

    db, you are here daily defending the Church. Bravo.

    You seem to be quite blind now to the enormous skepticism of those doing so. Turn you undoubted powers of reason and influence inward towards fixing this sickness inside the clergy. That is where it is most sorely needed.

    The public by and large is sick and tired of hearing defences from and for the Church. Few if any belive them.

    You can at once publicly defend what is innocent as well as attack and remove the guilty.

    True. But the Church is not. Even the Pope is denying and obstruction corrective actions. If Vigano is to be believed, the Pope is actually enabling offenders. You of all people here should understand and accept this and the enormity of the horrible situation the Church is in right now. Stop defending. It’s pathetic.

  36. notafan

    Makka you know every single time you accuse me of ‘verballing’ you

    Every single time, I have no idea what you mean by that by the way

    Risldale says he never went to confession

    Prove that he did

  37. rickw

    Australian Childcare Alliance NSW president Lyn Connolly said children who want to make a gun from Lego blocks should be told ‘how they can hurt people’.

    There is a young guy on YouTube who does very decent LEGO gun models. Actually there’s a book on making them to.

    These kids need to be shown these videos so the can do it properly.

    A 16er with two 8ers stuck under one end isn’t good enough!

  38. Lysander

    Very funny GM!

    This is only about putting priests in prison and undermining religious freedom of Catholics

    +1 Nota. If I committed a terrible act (I haven’t) I wouldn’t go to my usual parish priest and I’d certainly go to one where there’s a screen.

  39. rickw

    Trump is a crook, his Cabinet is mostly crooks, his organisation is full of crooks and his family are crooks.

    Trump wasn’t a crook until he beat the real crooks in an election.

  40. Snoopy

    And I think it was Brennan SJ, no lover of Cardinal Pell that admitted that not once had he ever heard someone confess to child sexual abuse.

    Referencing a pro homo marriage priest is probably not the best tactic.

  41. Lysander

    The public by and large is sick and tired of hearing defences from and for the Church. Few if any belive them.

    Trial by media Makka… at the same time Pell, SSM, Euthanasia etc… coincidence?

    Government institutions have proven just as bad, if not worse and I don’t see the media falling over themselves every day for less Government; quite the opposite actually!

  42. DrBeauGan

    Ms Berwick is president of the New South Wales Aboriginal Education Consultative Group (AECG), which co-ordinates the camps in conjunction with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Maths Alliance.
    The two organisations paired four years ago to help develop the next generation of scientists, mathematicians and engineers.

    Sure, that will work. Before you know what, our kids will have all the scientific and mathematical skills of the stone age aborigines.

    Putting education in the hands of ignorant imbeciles is another brilliant idea.

  43. notafan

    There is no unique sickness within the clergy

    There is sickness in humanity, and in particular the subset inclined to homosexuality , some of whom choose to become priests.

    Those that insist that child abuse is a uniquely Catholic problem are the problem.

    The sexual revolution was all set to legalize man boy love back in the sixties but most parents thought otherwise

    That is where the rot started.

  44. Geriatric Mayfly

    I’d certainly go to one where there’s a screen.

    Sounds a bit threatening to me. Are there CCTV cameras at work somewhere? Did it not used to be called a grille?

  45. .

    Poor old Harv.

    Apparently “dating” a lot of aurically challenged on market females is the same as being a sex trafficker.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/harvey-weinstein-wants-appeals-court-define-a-commercial-sex-act-1137996

    So what about the actresses who write DRR on the back of their promo photos? Or women who date men for meals?

  46. notafan

    Actually I don’t see a problem

    If even Brennan SJ has never heard one, how often do you think they happen ?

    Or is it now all priest lie all the time?

    Just like continuing to debate a topic that interested you means you are an obsessive compulsive.

  47. Lysander

    Yeah I think it was a grille GM. There certainly were CCTV/audio recording devices in confessionals during the Soviet’s long reign of Poland!

    Gee! This sounds kinda familiar! “Bless me father for I have sinned by being subversive against the government”

    Priest: “It is my duty to report this immediately! Actually I can just email the State authorities this sound clip”

  48. BrettW

    Seems the rorts still going strong. Spoke to somebody whose son is a carpet layer. Employer had to pay Union fees of $600 just so he could work on a site for 3 weeks.

    Silly I know but you would think you would only have to pay 3 weeks worth of Union fees.

    Explains why CFMEU has so much money.

    Wonder if they even got a receipt ?

  49. Makka

    You do yourself no favours Makka by claiming someone lives a life that is one big lie and leaning the other way to suggest he did something honourable by going to confession.

    Lysander, I’m very comfortable with my position. You argue a mute stupid point and try to use it in defence of the Church’s indefensible stance on this issue which is the elephant in the room.

    It’s you who are doing yourself no favours.

    Let me tell you. The confessional proposal is not that big a deal and it’s clear it’s unenforceable in any case. Catholics and their priests will arrange confessions one way or another. So don’t get suckered into wasting time defending something quite innocuous. MUCH bigger fish to fry is at hand which is where all efforts and attention should be directed. Again, just my opinion.

  50. .

    I really don’t get how old Harv cops it but the wahmen get away with it:

    https://torontosun.com/life/sex-files/is-incentive-dating-the-new-trend

    Surely he was just “incentive dating”? Or Seeking Arrangement?

    Aren’t they trafficking himself? It would be like charging the clients of a mafia-owned brothel with sex slaves with sex trafficking, instead of the mobsters.

    Seeing the Asia Argento/Rose McGowan stuff is imploding, what did he do wrong, other than they regret it later?

    Young women are brainwashed by Marxists that “power imbalances” lead to r-pe and all penetrative sex is r-pe. Let’s see some evidence. So far the evidence is that women can prostitute themselves and the man gets charged with being a sex trafficker.

    Just absurd.

  51. IMO, Catholics are doing the Church no good, at this point in time, defending against imposts (well meant or not) to prevent child abuse, uncover child abuse or alter rites to achieve that end. All this does is further those voices yelling “Child Abuse Cover Up!!!”

    Oh, we are supposed to acquiesce because this is ‘well meant’ even though notafan has provided several reasons to think it can have little to no benefit.

    db, you are here daily defending the Church. Bravo.

    You seem to be quite blind now to the enormous skepticism of those doing so. Turn you undoubted powers of reason and influence inward towards fixing this sickness inside the clergy. That is where it is most sorely needed.

    Really, I’ve been defending Bergoglio this week, have I? I’ve been defending McCarrick have I? No, I haven’t. I’ve completely and utterly been behind Vigano’s testimony and supported the cardinals, archbishops, bishops, priests, and laity, that are part of the Church, that have called for an investigation. However, I’m not going to carry on like a pork chop and blame everyone in the Church, including the innocent.

    True. But the Church is not. Even the Pope is denying and obstruction corrective actions. If Vigano is to be believed, the Pope is actually enabling offenders. You of all people here should understand and accept this and the enormity of the horrible situation the Church is in right now. Stop defending. It’s pathetic.

    FFS, Vigano was a Papal Nuncio and remains an Archbishop, Burke is a Cardinal, Olmsted is a Bishop, Zuhlsdorf is a priest. The Pope, McCarrick, et al, are not ‘the Church’. Your loose language sullies the risks former men have taken to expose the rot inside the hierarchy. If you cannot distinguish my defense of the former and my contempt and support of the removal of the latter, that isn’t my fault.

  52. .

    Now this poor fellow:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/dine-and-dash-dater-faces-10-felony-counts-for-allegedly-skipping-out-on-dates-before-bill-report.html

    Friggin’ Fox news has the hide to call his trollish behaviour a “crime spree”.

    He is a victim of double standards, like Harv.

  53. Makka

    Government institutions have proven just as bad, if not worse and I don’t see the media falling over themselves every day for less Government; quite the opposite actually!

    You are being autistic. Ffs it’s not JUST the media. Read Vigano’s letter and study it. I can’t verbalise the pain the poor man I think must be sufferring having endured knowing all he has seen and heard over the decades to bring him to this point. To openly vilify our Pope in such a manner speaks volumes of the sickness that is allowed to thrive in the Church. Defending the indefensible is madness, in this case. Accept the slings and arrows for now in silence- and advocate for full immediate purge of the sickness. Kick all the homos out of the clergy.

  54. Tintarella di Luna

    Delaney’s Story: Be A Climate Voter

    The cries from this young porker and many others like her

    Goodness me the high pitched squealing really should come with a trigger warning, ear hurty stuff.

  55. Makka

    Oh, we are supposed to acquiesce because this is ‘well meant’ even though notafan has provided several reasons to think it can have little to no benefit.

    No. It’s time at present for Catholics to stfu and get on with cleaning out their House. It is now a time for actions. Not mere words.

    There will come at time (hopefully!) AFTER actions of the Church have spoken far louder than words, to again defend. From a righteous position of strength and evidenced good intent to rid itself of the sickness now killing it.

  56. rickw

    Kick all the homos out of the clergy.

    Would be a great strategy. The intersection between homosexuality and child abuse is something no one wants to talk about.

    “Intersectionally” works both ways.

  57. rickw

    Kick all the homos out of the clergy.

    Would be a great strategy. The intersection between homosexuality and child abuse is something no one wants to talk about.

    “Intersectionality” works both ways.

  58. Lysander

    You argue a mute stupid point

    I’m sorry Makka, I didn’t realise you couldn’t speak. 😛

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    Let me be very clear Christians and Catholics.
    Don’t think I am holding anyone to unfair standards that do not include myself here.
    There is a very good chance I will be going to Hell, if there is one.
    I’d prefer it was otherwise, but it is not up to me, and I made my choices and have to take responsibility for them.
    The one thing I know for a fact and can take comfort in is that I will not go there wearing a millstone around my neck.

  60. notafan

    I’d prefer it was otherwise, but it is not up to me,

    But it is up to you

  61. Makka

    You argue a mute stupid point

    I’m sorry Makka, I didn’t realise you couldn’t speak. 😛

    Ok, moot stupid point. Spellcheck fail. Bite me. My point still stands.

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Zyconoclast
    #2806445, posted on August 31, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    Who pays for this?
    Perth clinic offers bulk-billed IVF treatment in WA first

    Ha, ha.
    The latest “raid your super” adverts in Victorianistan are imploring boomers to buy themselves a grandchild by funding the kid’s IVF.
    The ads are totally dripping in guilt.

  63. Boambee John

    Zycon at 1133

    DeSantis has come under fire after warning voters not to “monkey this up”

    Imagine the reaction had he told voters not to “bugger this up”!

  64. Lysander

    RickW; good strategy indeed. But it seems some Cats don’t get it.

    As soon as you do this you will be called bigots and homophobes. You will be told “how dare you impose morality on us when you have none yourself” (and it’s a good line for them to use). Makka will be on here banging on about how useless these actions are.

    Whatever you like in the end, there’s a Plenary Council coming up in 2020; the first in Australia since 1917 from memory and the first in the world for 5 or 6 decades. These matters are “up for grabs.” Go to your nearest parish priest and say you’d like to be on his committee for the council.

  65. Roger

    I’d prefer it was otherwise, but it is not up to me, and I made my choices and have to take responsibility for them.

    Luke 15:11-32, Stimpson.

  66. Lysander

    Spellcheck fail. Bite me. My point still stands.

    Just having a laugh Makka.

  67. notafan

    I haven’t followed the Pope story

    I have enough to deal with atm (and no Anne I am not disclosing)

    Hoeverre xactly my point Rick and Pope Benedict’s ban on homosexuals entering the seminary will see an end to the majority of the problem and seeing as most if not all of the claims date back at least two decades and the Church has been cleaning house since the 1990s calls for her to clean up are a trifle late.

    Bad bad Catholics

  68. Makka

    Makka will be on here banging on about how useless these actions are.

    Lysander, I’ve been advocating this for ages. However, not a lot from you in fact other than waffle and semantics I don’t recall any of your calls for action.

    You seem to be getting dots disease: making shit up to suit your argument. Grow tf up man.

  69. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I haven’t followed the Pope story

    Tl;dr – he’s a fucking monster who would rather cover for horrendous sex perverts than stop preaching climate change scripture. The left wing media have got his back.

    Sick!

  70. Makka

    Church has been cleaning house since the 1990s calls for her to clean up are a trifle late.

    That can’t be correct. Not according to Vigano’s letter. So you are more than a trifle wrong.

  71. No. It’s time at present for Catholics to stfu and get on with cleaning out their House. It is now a time for actions. Not mere words.

    We are attempting to clean out our house. It was Archbishop Vigano that provided his testimony to numerous Catholic journalists and bloggers who then took a very great risk publishing the allegations. In response, several cardinals, archbishops, bishops, priests, and laity have publicly called for an accounting to be made, and for resignations to made if the claims are substantiated. We can’t clean this rot out by STFU; that is precisely what Bergoglio is hoping for by remaining silent in the face of these allegations. And, no, I’m not going to throw Cardinal Pell under a bus because of scum like McCarrick.

  72. Lysander

    You seem to be getting dots disease: making shit up to suit your argument. Grow tf up man.

    Please provide a link to where I “made shit up?” I simply said these reforms are fucking stupid; and, I’ll add, like you.

    Lysander, I’ve been advocating this for ages.

    Congrats, you win a “I Participated in a Race Award.”

  73. Makka

    We can’t clean this rot out by STFU;

    Yes you can. The Church does not have to go public with it’s actions and strategies. Let the deeds and actions do the talking.

    And, no, I’m not going to throw Cardinal Pell under a bus because of scum like McCarrick.

    You too like dotty? Making shit up to fit your argument? That’s pathetic. No inference of such was made.

    You can stand by Pell without lecturing people on what a great job the Church is doing, db.

  74. That can’t be correct. Not according to Vigano’s letter. So you are more than a trifle wrong.

    One of the charges made against Bergoglio is that he reversed a decision against McCarrick by Benedict. There is also the allegation that he removed Cardinal Muller and three other priests who were acting strictly in abuse cases in favour of liberal appointments. So the claim that the Church was cleaning house since in the 1990s, as it was in Melbourne, for instance, can indeed be correct. It’s just that we didn’t manage to make it to all of the rooms before the cleaners were sent away.

  75. Makka

    Please provide a link to where I “made shit up?”

    Upthread.

    Lysander; you infer I mean this :”so this makes it more likely he went to confession to tell the truth?”

    No I didn’t and explained. So stop with the making shit up and just stick with what I posted rather than your convenient interpretation of that.

  76. .

    You’re a prick Makka, stop lashing out like a spoilt brat when you’re wrong.

  77. Yes you can. The Church does not have to go public with it’s actions and strategies. Let the deeds and actions do the talking.

    No, you can’t when it involves the Pope, as it appears. The idea that we can reverse the current policy without the resignation of the Pope at the very least is unrealistic. And to do this you need a vocal laity and public statements from cardinals, archbishops, bishops, and priests.

    You too like dotty? Making shit up to fit your argument? That’s pathetic. No inference of such was made.

    Not at all. If I’m allowed to defend Pell then you’re not advising me to STFU.

    You can stand by Pell without lecturing people on what a great job the Church is doing, db.

    This is laughable. You’re complaining about me ‘verballing’ you and you then have the temerity to claim that I’ve argued that the Church is doing a great job. You’re just not being serious.

  78. zyconoclast

    James Ricketson: Australian filmmaker found guilty of espionage, sentenced to six years in Cambodian prison

    Good.
    I hope he and all other Australians who interfere in foreign politic stay in the foreign jails.

    Everytime they get one home early – Im looking at you Peter Greste – they whinge and complain about the taxpayers who saved them.

    Peter Greste: Australia ‘succumbed to the rhetoric around terrorism’
    Nationalism and xenophobia are bigger risks to Australia than terrorism, says journalist Peter Greste.

  79. Lysander

    Whatever Makka. Dream on. You said:

    His whole life as a priest was one great big fkg LIE.

    And I simply pointed out to you that if this were the case (and I believe it to be true) this would make it extremely unlikely that he went to confession since he was hardly honourable; not even close!

    I said nobody can know for sure if he went or not but it would seem highly unlikely. You refused to budge and brought in distraction squirrels that all of this stuff doesn’t matter, get on with it, purge it, clean it and forget about my stupid fucked up logic which makes no sense. Look over there! A squirrel!

  80. Makka

    So the claim that the Church was cleaning house since in the 1990s, as it was in Melbourne, for instance, can indeed be correct.

    No. It TRIED perhaps, but failed. And Melbourne is not the Church. It is a part of the Church, sure.

    Semantics works in many ways, not only yours.

    Look, I’ve said my bit on this issue. I don’t claim to be as learned by any stretch as you db on the inner workings of the Church or it’s history. But still and all, it’s my Church too and it’s also my faith. And this situation sickens me. It’s time, now, for the Church IMO to get shit done and avoid being seen to waffle on defending it’s ways and means on this issue.

  81. Lysander

    You’re just not being serious.

    +1 and well played DB. I’m done.

    Beer o’clock. See you on the other side (not you Stimps, I’m going to a better place)

  82. cohenite

    Trump at Indiana rally: this guy is amazing; only lefties could hate this man.

    I’m president, they’re not.

  83. Roger

    One of the charges made against Bergoglio is that he reversed a decision against McCarrick by Benedict.

    A suggestion from outside the walls of Rome to those cleaning up inside:

    Don’t keep sanctions against offending clergy secret for the sake of not causing scandal.

    If Benedict had made his actions against McCarrick public, the latter would not have been able to largely ignore them and Bergoglio would not have been able to reverse them so easily.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA fatal crash drivers face 20 years’ jail

    Australian Associated Press
    4 minutes ago August 31, 2018

    Dangerous drivers who kill face up to 20 years in prison in Western Australia under legislation that has passed through state parliament, named in honour of a teenage crash victim.

    Charlotte Pemberton, 19, was killed in 2015 when a speeding and unlicensed Rebel bikie, Dylan James Adams, smashed his high-powered motorcycle into the passenger side of her boyfriend’s car.

    Adams, who was 21 at the time of the crash, had been travelling up to 100km/h in a 60km/h zone in peak hour traffic, trying to cross the intersection before the lights turned red.

    He expressed no concern or remorse at the scene towards Ms Pemberton or her partner but was concerned about paramedics cutting off his bikie vest.

    Adams was last year handed a jail sentence of four years and three months, and prosecutors did not appeal as the term was broadly in line with penalties given in other similar cases.

  85. Baldrick

    James Ricketson: David Hicks with a camera 🎥

  86. zyconoclast

    S3x doll br0thel lease cancelled; won’t open in North York plaza

    The s3x doll br0thel that planned to set up shop in a North York plaza has been shut down just over a week before its proposed opening day on Sept. 8.

    Aura Dolls br0thel will no longer operate out of 4632 Yonge St. thanks, in part, to a decades-old bylaw. The address has been removed from the company’s website.

    In a letter sent to residents obtained by CityNews on Wednesday, Coun. John Filion said he met with city staff to determine if the business was legal in the chosen location in his ward following a large number of complaints about the br0thel.

    City staff ruled that the business falls under the “adult entertainment parlour” category and as such, is not allowed anywhere in Willowdale. Filion said the ruling is based on a motion he introduced about 20 years ago that restricts s3x retail shops in North York to industrial areas.

    “Both the business owner and property owner were advised by city staff that the proposed use is illegal and that, if the business opened, they would be charged,” said Filion. “As a result, I am pleased to advise you that city staff were told that the lease has been cancelled.”

    In addition, Filion said the same plaza currently hosts two other illegal businesses — a pot dispensary and an illegal massage parlour — which he hopes the building owner will get rid of.

    Earlier this week Aura Dolls told CityNews it doesn’t believe the company is breaking any laws and has a licence from the city. City officials said the company does not have any sort of licence with the city.

    The City of Toronto issues licences to businesses like adult entertainment clubs and body rub parlours which could be subject to zoning bylaws. It does not license s3x workers or brothels.

  87. Makka

    Butt out dotty. You’re only upset because your habit of lying and making shit up is contagious.

  88. .

    So Makka, I’m making other people lie?

    Wow, I’m a freaking wizard now.

    Fuck me you’re a hypocrite, this its total bullshit and you’ve tried to walk away from an argument on friendly terms and at the same time calling everyone else a liar, and telling me to butt out when you smeared me like a whiny little bitch.

    I want Anne to explain how I can make other people lie. Unlike your drivel, her palaver will at least be interesting.

  89. Boambee John

    Tiger at 1411

    Deranged lefty lezzos are and always will be fucked.

    Perhaps their problem is that they have not been?

  90. JC

    Regarding the issue of confession.

    Since when has any citizen, let alone a priest, been expected under to snitch under Australian law? My understanding of the law is that no one is expected to report a crime. This is all together different to being asked by the police etc if a person has witnessed a crime.

  91. Stimpson J. Cat

    (not you Stimps, I’m going to a better place)

    Imagine eternity in Heaven with my friends and family asking you and everyone else over and over and over again “Where’s Stimp? Where’s Stimp? ”
    And you think I’m annoying.
    You’ll wish you were in Hell.

    😁

  92. bundyrum

    After listening to the Trump speech in Indiana….wow.

    We have to listen to the drivel of our ‘ruling turds’

    We are shafted.

  93. Stimpson J. Cat

    I want Anne to explain how I can make other people lie. Unlike your drivel, her palaver will at least be interesting.

    I make people lie all the time.
    Lie to themselves that they don’t find an unconventionally attractive bald man entertaining.

    Boom!

  94. Makka

    Fuck me you’re a hypocrite, this its total bullshit and you’ve tried to walk away from an argument on friendly terms and at the same time calling everyone else a liar, and telling me to butt out when you smeared me like a whiny little bitch.

    dotty,
    You should keep your fkg nose out then, softcock. I have personally busted you countless times using lies and verballing to make your arguments. That you are a lying xµnt is beyond any doubt. So please lose all the innocence and victimhood. It just doesn’t wash.

    Everyone? No, I was directing my point at Lysander and I accused him of verballing me and I showed why. He tried to dodge it , big deal.

  95. A suggestion from outside the walls of Rome to those cleaning up inside:

    Don’t keep sanctions against offending clergy secret for the sake of not causing scandal.

    If Benedict had made his actions against McCarrick public, the latter would not have been able to largely ignore them and Bergoglio would not have been able to reverse them so easily.

    I think this is correct. As St Pius V’s Bull against “gay” clergy reminds us especially on this day:

    § 1. Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree: “Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery” (chap. 4, X, V, 31).

    and

    § 2. So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC are you going to allow Couchsurfers in your new apartment?
    Asking for a friend.

  97. Tailgunner

    For easy $$ Cats,
    I’m at the pub for a knock off, middle of Richmond.
    Eddie, a “pub buddy”,who I hooked up with a loan of a pineapple for costs incurred on the punt…. that he will payback, like Mexico will pay for the Wall.,
    Just happens to be the father of one of the Australian Survivor contestants.
    Keeping me appraised of chances. And odds.
    The bookies are open.
    His daughter is the lawyer.

  98. Makka

    Regarding the issue of confession.

    I can’t see how such a proposal can be enforceable in reality. It will die a natural death eventually.

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    His daughter is the lawyer.

    Is she hot Gunner?
    Does she enjoy a bit of crazy?
    Would she like some?

  100. Tailgunner

    Take that! LNPinsider
    🙂
    But like you, I don’t know the result. Eddie doesn’t know.
    But he knows that his daughter &Shane Gould are now great mates. He’s met Shane at a social do.
    Ex Footscray/Japan prison doof, Brian Lake, is currently favourite to win.

  101. Tailgunner

    Stimps, calm down!
    It’s not about 1-10, it’s about usefulllness.
    Sharn Coombs or something? Google up something. She’s no Instagram ho, that’s fo-sho

  102. Makka

    dover_beach
    #2806531, posted on August 31, 2018 at 4:25 pm

    be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery

    Is this not an “out”?

    we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

    When homosexuality is no longer illegal, isn’t this instruction now meaningless?

  103. Des Deskperson

    ‘Good.
    I hope he and all other Australians who interfere in foreign politic stay in the foreign jails.’

    I wonder if James Ricketson is any relation Matthew Ricketson:

    https://expertconnect.global/expert/Matthew-Ricketson/5b3ebd9b2c48550eb2a645be

    one of the architects of the Finkelstein press inquiry, called by the Gillard Government to ‘get’ the Murdoch ‘hate media’?

    If two people employed in the media, the arts, academia and/or politics have the same surname, it’s a reasonable working assumption, until proved otherwise, that they are kin.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimps, calm down!
    It’s not about 1-10, it’s about usefulllness.
    Sharn Coombs or something? Google up something. She’s no Instagram ho, that’s fo-sho

    Eddies sitting next to you, isn’t he Gunner?

    😂

  105. JC

    Anyone seen the Bristish cafe chain called Costa? Coca Cola just announced its buying it for US$5.1 billion

  106. be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery

    Is this not an “out”?

    That is from the Fourth Lateran Council. What is being endorsed is the first. The second is not an out though, it would be like being under house arrest until death in very modest conditions. In fact, no different from jail in that respect.

    When homosexuality is no longer illegal, isn’t this instruction now meaningless?

    Not where it involves abuse of minors or of those under one’s authority.

  107. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Outgoing UN human rights chief Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein has said that Myanmar’s de-facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi should have resigned over her country’s military’s campaign against the Rohingya last year.

  108. Stimpson J. Cat

    For Stimpy. The lazy misogynist.
    I don’t dig the hairpiece.
    I’m glad you never went down that path!

    If she let’s me wear the wig it’s on.

  109. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Is she hot Gunner?

    no

  110. notafan

    Penance in a sixteenth century monastery an ‘out’.

    No idea.

  111. Baldrick

    As expected …

    Kieran Gilbert ✔ @Kieran_Gilbert
    Malcolm Turnbull has just tendered his resignation

    Good riddance and fuck off.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    or forced to do penance in a monastery

    How about remanded into the care of Dr Stimpy for treatment.
    I’ll fix them, and if I can’t, there are Chinese who will pay good money for organs, wigmakers will pay for the hair, and we can donate the money to homeless orphans.
    Win win.

  113. Penance in a sixteenth century monastery an ‘out’.

    No idea.

    And a 13th C monastery even less so.

  114. Tailgunner

    dot, get in here please.
    You’re the Cat in-house lawyer.
    A 1-10 rating, pronto.
    Lawyer chicks are fucking entitled &crazy. Not my forte.
    Is she hot?
    I’d say 5ish…

  115. Stimpson J. Cat

    no

    I need a Sugar Mommy Lawyer Zippy don’t judge me.

  116. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is she hot?
    I’d say 5ish…

    If she can afford to pay for my hair transplants she is f$cking gorgeous let me tell you.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Good riddance and fuck off.

    Leave us to at least two terms of a Shorten Government.

  118. Tailgunner

    I want to see a Cat foxhunting expididition.
    To track down Stimpson.
    Isn’t he around Wolf Creek, WA way?

  119. Baldrick

    Anyone seen the Bristish cafe chain called Costa? Coca Cola just announced its buying it for US$5.1 billion

    Not sure about Costa, but the Australian coffee chain market looks sick …

    Shares in embattled coffee and donut retailer Retail Food Group tumbled 12 per cent after the company swung to a full-year loss and flagged further store closures.
    Unveiling a $306.7 million full-year net loss, compared to a net profit of $61.9m for the full year last year, the owner of brands including Donut King and Gloria Jean’s blaming challenging market conditions and negative sentiment for the heavy loss.
    Other RFG brands include Michel’s Patisserie, Brumby’s Bakery, and Crust Pizza.
    the company warned that retail market conditions continue to be challenging and that trading results are likely to remain subdued until the full impact of lease restructuring and product and supply chain initiatives begin to deliver.
    “Our focus in the current financial year is to stabilise the business and return it to a profitable platform, and optimise our core operations so that we enhance profitability and returns for both our franchisee customers and RFG,” Mr Hinson said.

    Via The Oz ($)

  120. calli

    So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

    Pius V said it better than me. 🙂

  121. Makka

    Penance in a sixteenth century monastery an ‘out’.

    No idea.

    The victims, the community, the public at large – they don’t need to know and best kept ignorant. Better to secret away the obscenity. You are the clueless one. And, it’s worked so well .

  122. Tailgunner

    Then we’ll give him to Arky for filmed interrogation.
    Dylan Voller style.

  123. Habib

    Pricks like Rickettson and Greste are latter-day Burchetts. That treacherous, lying sack of shit was declared persona non grata and had his passport cancelled. Re-issued by that equally treacherous pice of shit Whitlam. Now we’re just as likely to deploy SF to spring the swine.

  124. Tailgunner

    hair transplants she is f$cking gorgeous let me tell you.

    Pedastalizing chicks for profit.
    Black Pill game :confirmed

  125. notafan

    Pius V understood very well the nature of those that commit that ‘nefarious crime’ and not being frightened by the death of their souls’ would not bother with going to confession.

    True then, true now

  126. zyconoclast

    Pricks like Rickettson and Greste are latter-day Burchetts. That treacherous, lying sack of shit was declared persona non grata and had his passport cancelled. Re-issued by that equally treacherous pice of shit Whitlam. Now we’re just as likely to deploy SF to spring the swine.

    Hopefully Duterte deals with that Nun at no cost to the Oz taxpayer.

  127. Makka immediately above:

    The victims, the community, the public at large – they don’t need to know and best kept ignorant. Better to secret away the obscenity. You are the clueless one. And, it’s worked so well .

    Makka an hour or so earlier:

    Yes you can. The Church does not have to go public with it’s actions and strategies. Let the deeds and actions do the talking.

  128. Tailgunner

    Makka – you’ve been killing it lately.
    Great work.

  129. cohenite

    My understanding of the law is that no one is expected to report a crime.

    Your understanding is wrong.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    I want to see a Cat foxhunting expididition.
    To track down Stimpson.
    Isn’t he around Wolf Creek, WA way?

    I will turn up to something one of these days.

    My favorite idea was to prank Custard into trying to sell me an overpriced caravan for hours and hours.
    Just really annoy the sh$t out of him until he cracks and belts me with a rolled up brochure or sets the dogs on me and then I rip off my wig and fake moustache and say in a fake W$g accent
    “Itsa me, Stimpy!!! ”
    I am revealing this evil plan because I don’t know how long I can stop myself from attempting it.

  131. Stimpson J. Cat

    Pedastalizing chicks for profit.
    Black Pill game :confirmed

    I call it Black Knighting Gunner.

  132. JC

    Cohenite

    So if I’m walking down the street and witness a crime I’m forced to report it and if I don’t I can be charged.

  133. Tailgunner

    Thanks Zipper.
    Good link.
    TDS is 4D chess.
    Does anyone here still doubt #MAGA?
    does anyone here still doubt that He really IS the God Emperor?
    Having your enemies destroying themselves? Lol

  134. H B Bear

    Kick all the homos out of the clergy.
    Would be a great strategy. The intersection between homosexuality and child abuse is something no one wants to talk about.

    Especially Mincing Marr on Ol’ Leathery’s couch.

  135. calli

    I’m trying to understand what you mean, nota.

    Are you saying that only people who believe in God’s wrath go to confession? That a deceitful evildoer would not use it as a cover to provide normalcy, particularly if they picked a time when others would see them attending? I’m not trying to win a stupid argument here btw.

  136. notafan

    Handing over to secular authorities should be the norm where criminal activity is invovled

    As for back in the day

    Monasteries were generally speaking open to the public, they provided accommodation for travelers and care for the sick, they ran farms and sold the excess.

    I’m also sure that when someone was sent for penance, for any reason, in small communities such as existed in those days, everyone knew who, why and and what penance was involved..

    You are the clueless one that thinks perversions like child abuse are going to miraculously disappear in this fallen world because you demand that the Catholic Church (and only the Catholic Church) do something!

    Not to mention in some cultures they are even perfectly legal and socially acceptable.

  137. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Kieran Gilbert ✔ @Kieran_Gilbert
    Malcolm Turnbull has just tendered his resignation

    Soon…

    Musk in jail for securities fraud.
    Bergoglio defrocked and hanged
    Muelller forced to live alone in the desert.

  138. Robber Baron

    Tucker Carlson: The Democratic Party is blowing up.

    I guess that is likely to happen when you embrace Islam.

  139. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Claiming there are more than a million vacant jobs in Germany, Angela Merkel’s government is set to slash immigration restrictions so non-EU migrants can be shipped in to fill roles in vocational careers.

  140. Robber Baron

    Mincing Marr

    Is he a giver or taker?

  141. notafan

    I don’t have anything to say about God’s wrath.

    I am saying that a confession, for those that properly understand it, which leaves out pertinent matters is pointless .

    They fool no-one, not even themselves.

    Persona Christi and all that

    If someone has no interest in the state of their soul why would they bother going to confession?

    Only people that go to hell are those that want to.

  142. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Tucker Carlson

    Verified account

    @TuckerCarlson
    6h6 hours ago
    More
    Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world. Many of his employees are so poor, you’re paying their welfare benefits. And he’s not the only tech billionaire offloading his payroll costs onto taxpayers. This is an indefensible scam. Why is only Bernie talking about it?

    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1035334044698009600

    A brilliant point from Tucker.

    He has copped plenty of flack today for this statement from corporatist shills.

    Corporatism is freaking evil.

  143. Makka

    Makka immediately above:

    The victims, the community, the public at large – they don’t need to know and best kept ignorant. Better to secret away the obscenity. You are the clueless one. And, it’s worked so well .

    Makka an hour or so earlier:

    Yes you can. The Church does not have to go public with it’s actions and strategies. Let the deeds and actions do the talking.

    The 2 points of discussion are several centuries apart. While the sentiments of PiusV and his actions then in the 15th century no doubt were effective, this globally connected open sourced world today is vastly different.

    I also stated I thought was best to go about the purge now quietly as a temporary measure. Not permanent silence. You have omitted my full context to suit your argument. Low act.Public open discussion of actions taken after the fact was best for now is what I stated. Given the nature of the current crisis.

    You can play semantics db. It only reinforces my belief that your preferred action is for the Church to hope verbal defence will do rather than act. It’s a big mistake, there has been too much damage at present to try to talk it’s way out of the crisis.

    And so you can’t verbal me again, this what I posted;

    No. It’s time at present for Catholics to stfu and get on with cleaning out their House. It is now a time for actions. Not mere words.

    There will come at time (hopefully!) AFTER actions of the Church have spoken far louder than words, to again defend.

    I never advocated for permanent secrecy or silence on the matter yet you have the temerity to infer that I did.

  144. Stimpson J. Cat

    I would have Tucker’s confused faced child if he asked me to, and if I was a women.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Muelller forced to live alone in the desert.

    A tropical island will be acceptable. I can think of one just across the sea from Haiti.
    Btw where is M0nty? He usually jumps in about now to defend his white knights.

  146. Makka

    You are the clueless one that thinks perversions like child abuse are going to miraculously disappear in this fallen world because you demand that the Catholic Church (and only the Catholic Church) do something!

    Don’t try to move the goalposts nota. This discussion and my point is only referencing child abuse in the Church. I have never inferred these abuses will disappear if the Church gets its act together. That is you verballing me.

    Yes, I do want the Church to do something about abuse in the Church. At least you are smart enough to get that bit right.

    It is your weird and convenient attempt to deflect and obfuscate that throws up your distortion of my comment to mean ONLY the Catholic Church.

  147. .

    Sure Makka, you busted me several times for disagreeing with you.

    This is your basis for Lysander being wrong now, that and I can make other people lie (which you will assume is another lie because it is not a direct quote of you).

    I live rent free in your head.

    Now I know how Trump feels.

    Feels good man.

  148. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Argentinian peso reacting badly to Bergoglio’s current predicament.

  149. zyconoclast

    US-flagged yacht with 71 migrants stopped in Greek waters

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Authorities in western Greece have arrested two people for allegedly trying to smuggle 71 migrants out of the country on a U.S.-flagged yacht.

    The Greek merchant marine ministry said the yacht was stopped in the Gulf of Patras following a tip-off. The vessel is believed to have been heading for Italy.

    The ministry says the suspects were identified as 25- and 27-year-old foreign citizens. No details were available on the nationalities of the migrants.

  150. Makka

    He has copped plenty of flack today for this statement from corporatist shills.

    Corporatism is freaking evil.

    Look up Kevin Shipps lectures on YT.

    Corporatism is freaking evil.

    So evil it’s freaking scary.

  151. I also stated I thought was best to go about the purge now quietly as a temporary measure. Not permanent silence. You have omitted my full context to suit your argument. Low act.Public open discussion of actions taken after the fact was best for now is what I stated. Given the nature of the current crisis.

    I haven’t omitted anything. You verballed notafan. She was clearly addressing your claim that being forced to do penance in a monastery was an ‘out’ and you then replied she was recommending ‘secrecy’ and defending ‘reputations’.

    You can play semantics db. It only reinforces my belief that your preferred action is for the Church to hope verbal defence will do rather than act. It’s a big mistake, there has been too much damage at present to try to talk it’s way out of the crisis.

    You’re all over the shop, Makka. I want the current Pope out. I want those guilty of abuse of minors or those under their authority, and/or the covering up of these acts or omissions, laicized, and where appropriate, given over to the civil authorities. But, I’m not going to throw the innocent into the fire as well simply to appease an angry mob.

  152. Kieran Gilbert ✔ @Kieran_Gilbert
    Malcolm Turnbull has just tendered his resignation

    Who?

  153. But, I’m not going to throw the innocent into the fire as well simply to appease an angry mob.

    Steady on.
    I intend throw ALL of our MPs into a tumbril.
    If the rope breaks or the guillotine jams, then and only then, will I presume that God thought they were innocent.
    Buggerem.

  154. Don’t try to move the goalposts nota. This discussion and my point is only referencing child abuse in the Church. I have never inferred these abuses will disappear if the Church gets its act together. That is you verballing me.

    Archbishop Vigano’s letter isn’t simply about the abuse of minors. McCarrick, IIRC, did not abuse minors, he abused his position and took advantage of seminarians.

  155. cohenite

    So if I’m walking down the street and witness a crime I’m forced to report it and if I don’t I can be charged.

    Don’t deflect; you don’t walk anywhere.

  156. Makka

    Sure Makka, you busted me several times for disagreeing with you.

    No dotty. I busted you plenty of times for posting lies- and I have proven every single one. You butted in on the discussion dotty so I’d say I’m in your head. Fkg ghastly.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Argentinian peso reacting badly to Bergoglio’s current predicament.

    More likely contagion from other EM currencies, led by the Turkish lira and Seth Efrican rand.

    Rand Tumbles As Government Warns Of “Catastrophe” Unless ‘Land Reform’ Allowed (30 Aug)

    Lira Plummets After Turkish Central Bank Deputy Governor Quits (30 Aug)

    Argie fundamentals are crap, inherited from Kirschner and her pet Marxist economics professor. So they get caught in the EM maelstrom caused by the totalitarians in Ankara and Joburg.

  158. C.L.

    Had he paid an abortionist to shake her to death, he would have been hailed as a hero:

    Victorian father sentenced over death of three-month-old daughter.

    A Victorian father who shook his three-month-old daughter so hard she suffered brain damage has been sentenced to nine years in prison for child homicide.

    Justice Forrest said it was likely Rowe shook the girl after becoming frustrated at her unsettled, irritable behaviour.

    He said the man posed a low risk of re-offending.

    But Justice Forrest told the court the community trusted adults charged with the care of children to carry out the task conscientiously.

    “Child homicide is a very serious offence; it’s victims are always defenceless,” the judge said.

    Indeed.

  159. Pedro the Ignorant

    New laptop.
    “Tap, tap, tap – is this thing on”?

  160. Makka

    You’re all over the shop, Makka. I want the current Pope out. I want those guilty of abuse of minors or those under their authority, and/or the covering up of these acts or omissions, laicized, and where appropriate, given over to the civil authorities.

    So you are comfortable with the percentage of homosexuals that make up the clergy? US estimates of around 17% for example. Is that correct or no?

  161. .

    You’ve done nothing of the sort Makka. You tried winning an argument by making up some Quixotic fantasy about someone (me) who had nothing to do with their discussion. Now you’re accusing several other people of prevaricating for simply disagreeing with you.

  162. Pedro the Ignorant

    Yep, thing is on. Very slow, but on.

  163. C.L.

    New laptop.

    What did you get, Pedro?
    I’m in the market for a newbie.

  164. JC

    Defend your position or STFU and apologise, Cohenite.

  165. cohenite

    Defend your position or STFU and apologise, Cohenite.

    My position is you don’t walk; present evidence or you STFU!

  166. So you are comfortable with the percentage of homosexuals that make up the clergy? US estimates of around 17% for example. Is that correct or no?

    Where do I say anything of the sort? But as CL pointed out earlier this week, how the hell do you know if someone is ‘homosexual’, barring flaming pansies, unless they are actively so? You don’t. So, if, as priests, they actively engaging in such conduct, they must be removed.

  167. Makka

    Now you’re accusing several other people of prevaricating for simply disagreeing with you.

    So, it’s not everyone then.And I have quoted my points specifically with explanations. Whereas all that is seen from you are assertions and more of your bullshit like this. Go back to the textbooks dotty. Reality isn’t your thing.

  168. Frank

    Kieran Gilbert ✔ @Kieran_Gilbert
    Malcolm Turnbull has just tendered his resignation

    Take his money and leather jacket away and make him live in a housing commission flat in Blacktown and it would be a good start.

  169. Makka

    Where do I say anything of the sort?

    It was a question. Answer the question. I didn’t accuse you of saying it.

  170. C.L.
    I might be a little biased, but I would recommend a Dell, if you don’t like it, a Dell, or as the third best option, a Dell.
    I have a DPS15 and an XPS15 (and an retired Latitude).
    Both do their jobs fuss free and without fault.

  171. Makka

    dotty, you are such a fkg coward, you design your handle so it can’t be searched. Do you really expect to be taken seriously? Fk off.

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    I want the current Pope out.

    Dover, he’ll just be replaced by another of the liberal group (I can’t remember the name they’re called) that backs Francis, since they’ve stacked the College.

  173. Gary

    Someone claimed last week there is a echo chamber hear but I cant find it.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    Kieran Gilbert ✔ @Kieran_Gilbert
    Malcolm Turnbull has just tendered his resignation
    Who?

    Kieran Gilbert.
    He plays half back for the Sydney Swans seconds, I think.
    Presumably one of his teammates has retired.

  175. Makka

    I might be a little biased, but I would recommend a Dell, if you don’t like it, a Dell, or as the third best option, a Dell.

    + many. Not the cheapest but robust.

  176. It was a question. Answer the question. I didn’t accuse you of saying it.

    I did.

  177. cohenite

    Has anyone seen head prefect walking?

  178. Habib

    Buy Mac. It may be the spawn of Satan, but Microsoft is their involuntary nocturnal emissions.

  179. .

    Now Makka explain who I am making lie vis a vis “contagious lies” or whatever crap you said before (which is completely ridiculous in itself).

    Maybe you want to retract that if you don’t want to accuse Lysander, DB etc of lying.

    Now if you retract that…isn’t that a lie and something a blowhard would say?

    Looks like you’re going to have to put your hand up for telling porkie pies either way.

    You don’t need to win every argument Makka. You don’t win by assuming a circular position of “you’re wrong, disagreeing with me is LYING!…” FFS.

    Maybe you should shut up about serious criminal allegations with no proof at all other than robust self-belief.

    Doesn’t all of this mean you are a hypocrite? Either that or tell us who was lying.

    (Let me remind you I was not involved in this discussion until you made the conscious choice to do so because you were flailing madly).

  180. Makka

    So, if, as priests, they actively engaging in such conduct, they must be removed.

    They can stay in the clergy if they are not caught engaging in such conduct. Is that a fair interpretation?

  181. JC

    I walk at least 10 k steps a day, Cohenite.

  182. calli

    Lol. I read that as 10 steps. 😀

  183. Gary

    Habib

    Mac’s are for lefty girly men.

  184. Delta A

    On the road again…

    We’ve travelled the Yorke Peninsula, SA, many times, but never in winter.

    I’m sure the farmers are saying there’s not enough rain but so far, all the crops are looking lush and lovely. Wheat heads are forming, canola flowering and a few early barley ears turning brownish.

    Four mls yesterday, six today, with more light sprinkles to come.

    A question for farmers: I’ve noticed significant differences in the height of wheat crops. Tallish in the higher rainfall areas, while squat, maybe 40cms, in more marginal districts. I assume this is genetic modification working to the environment.

    And as an aside, we’re within five meters of a Willy Weather station. If I can’t deduce the temperature for myself, I can look it up on the Internet. 🙂

  185. .

    Delta

    Sure it isn’t barley you’re looking at? Feed barley is selling at over 350/tonne last time I looked.

  186. Makka

    Maybe you want to retract that if you don’t want to accuse Lysander, DB etc of lying.

    You idiot. My accusation was verballing. Deliberate distortion of my meaning. I pointed out specifics. You just can’t comprehend. It’s you I accuse of LYING. It’s proven in fact. You make up quotes and attribute them to your adversary. You know this is true.

    Maybe you should shut up about serious criminal allegations with no proof at all other than robust self-belief.

    Ok dotty QC. No opinions other than your learned comments can be posted on anything of legal content.

    dotty, you’re a low life coward. Grow a pair ,give yourself a screen name so your comments can be searched and referred. Then you will be taken seriously.

  187. Delta A

    Feed barley is selling at over 350/tonne last time I looked.

    If conditions stay kind on YP, then many farmers are set to make a motza.

    Hope so!

  188. DrBeauGan

    If a priest has yearnings for young boys but has successfully repressed them, should he be thrown out if he confesses them? The argument for not doing so is a) it is unjust and b) it will encourage others to not confess their urges. The argument for doing so is that he is more likely to be supportive of others of his kind.

    At least, I can’t think of any other arguments.

  189. Farmer Gez

    Crop height can be manipulated by genetics but mostly by stress.
    Water stress means less tillers and the crop goes into early senescence. It basically tries to reproduce with with the energy it’s got at hand.

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    I might be a little biased, but I would recommend a Dell, if you don’t like it, a Dell, or as the third best option, a Dell.

    That is my experience. Dell makes sure their laptops are idiot proof so that scientists can use them.

  191. Tailgunner

    Feels good man.

    Bamb!
    Fucking dot.
    Makka-bitch, please!?

  192. Delta A

    It basically tries to reproduce with with the energy it’s got at hand.

    I don’t know the accumulated rainfall to date, but I guess it’s on the low side. That’s a dismal outlook, Farmer Gez.

  193. cohenite

    27 Mandatory reporting

    (1) This section applies to:

    (a) a person who, in the course of his or her professional work or other paid employment delivers health care, welfare, education, children’s services, residential services, or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children, and

    (b) a person who holds a management position in an organisation the duties of which include direct responsibility for, or direct supervision of, the provision of health care, welfare, education, children’s services, residential services, or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children.

    (2) If:

    (a) a person to whom this section applies has reasonable grounds to suspect that a child is at risk of significant harm, and

    (b) those grounds arise during the course of or from the person’s work,
    it is the duty of the person to report, as soon as practicable, to the Secretary the name, or a description, of the child and the grounds for suspecting that the child is at risk of significant harm.
    (3) A person to whom this section applies satisfies his or her obligations under subsection (2) in relation to two or more children that constitute a particular class of children if the person reports that class of children to the Secretary together with:

    (a) a description that is sufficient to identify all the children who constitute the class, and

    (b) the grounds for suspecting that the children of that class are at risk of significant harm.

    Does anyone else want to argue, head prefect is too busy walking.

  194. .

    Makka if you were being honest, you could answer the question.

    Who specifically are you accusing of lying in the discussion over Vatican policies?

    You don’t get to accuse someone of dishonesty, assert that their dishonesty is “contagious” and then be a simpering coward and refuse to name who else you think is lying.

    You just can’t hack losing an argument. You always bring up this nonsense about everyone else being dishonest when you can’t win the argument. It is just pathetic. The worst part is how you use it as a safety blanket on ANY topic as soon as your position is found wanting.

    Just apologise, stop it and move on.

  195. Tailgunner

    Ok dotty QC. No

    Fuggit.
    I’m behind dot QC.
    We have to re-infiltrate all the Things.
    TDS, and low expectations on body counts, ensures victory.
    They won’t even see the Movement coming.
    dot, you report to us now.
    Get busy, lazy of letters!

  196. Entropy

    Dell laptops (I am presuming XPS or go home) are not as good or quite as fast as the latest MacBook Pros, but are better priced.
    For ultrabooks, I also really like the HP spectre x360 pro. The trackpad isn’t as good or as easy to use as the MBP, but very maclike in construction, and prettier than the dell.
    The dell also has the camera down near the keyboard due to the edge to edge wide screen. Nostril city! Bad design.

  197. Tailgunner

    Defend your position or STFU and apologise, Cohenite.

    Dude, it’s not that kind of blog.
    Call outs are verboten.

  198. cohenite

    Credlin has her hair pulled back tonight. She looks like an alien, a very attractive alien.

  199. Gab

    To end the week on a bright note,

    The U.S. government has decided to stop all funding it gives to a United Nations agency that provides assistance to millions of Palestinian refugees, ending a decades-long policy

    From the NYT.

    #morewinning.

  200. They can stay in the clergy if they are not caught engaging in such conduct. Is that a fair interpretation?

    I’m not sure if you’re asking whether they can stay if they have always been or remain chaste or whether they can stay if they are actively gay but not caught. I’m going to be charitable and assume the former and reply, as a matter of principle, Yes, but, again, how can you even be aware of such inclinations unless they materialize as acts? All you can ever do is remove them when their acts break their vows.

  201. Habib

    Mac’s are for lefty girly men. Well call me Chelsea Habibette.

  202. Rafe Champion

    Liberty Quote

    If we wish to preserve a free society, it is essential that we recognize that the desirability of a particular object is not sufficient justification for the use of coercion.

    — Friedrich von Hayek

  203. John Constantine

    The Edge effect is a good indicator of a crop being genetically dwarf, or climatically dwarf.

    If the outside row of the crop is optically taller and greener and nicer than the middle of the paddock, this shows the outer edge can get more moisture from the clean fenceline, and grow closer to its genetic potential.

    Lot of edge effect about in places now.

  204. Gab

    Dover, he’ll just be replaced by another of the liberal group (I can’t remember the name they’re called)

    Socialists. AKA the Lavender Mafia.

  205. JC

    Cohenite, stop being a bullshit artist. I’m not a lawyer but as far as I understood people aren’t compelled to report crimes.
    This what I posted.

    Since when has any citizen, let alone a priest, been expected under to snitch under Australian law? My understanding of the law is that no one is expected to report a crime. This is all together different to being asked by the police etc if a person has witnessed a crime.

    You’ve been trying to make a big song and dance because I don’t know statute law, while you’re just a mere suburban solicitor specializing in conveyancing.

  206. C.L.

    The U.S. government has decided to stop all funding it gives to a United Nations agency that provides assistance to millions of Palestinian refugees, ending a decades-long policy

  207. Habib

    Used to do Dell’s work, could buy for cost + 5%. Used them for work, never took up the offer. Bought a MacBook Air from some Abo yartz thingie in Alice Springs, $400 belowlist with full warranty docs. No doubt they were paid for by taxpayers. Never pay ticket.

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    US to end all funding for UN aid program for Palestinian refugees

    10:31AM August 31, 2018
    119 Comments

    The White House is reportedly planning to cut all its funding to the United Nations aid program for Palestinian refugees and to slash by 90 per cent the number of people it recognises as refugees, as part of Washington’s policy to “break and re-make” the Middle East.

    In an announcement expected next month, Donald Trump and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and Middle East adviser, are expected to attack the way the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) spends it funds, according to the Washington Post.

    It comes just a week after the State Department announced that more than $200 million in direct aid to the West Bank and Gaza would be “redirected” elsewhere.

    The administration is also planning to slash the number of people it recognises as Palestinian refugees from 5.5 million to just 500,000, in a move that would effectively remove the issue of the right of return of Palestinian refugees to Israel.

    From the Oz. More winning, indeed.

  209. C.L.

    Thanks, Rambler, Habib.
    I don’t “Skipe”, watch movies or play “games.”
    Just want something for email, trouble-free surfing and a filing cabinet for my docs and my large collection of Nigella pics.

  210. Steve trickler

    This is going to be a legendary drinking song. JP talking about booze.

    Excellent work.



  211. Elle

    Credlin has her hair pulled back tonight. She looks like an alien, a very attractive alien.

    She is gorgeous! Highly intelligent and articulate too.. A powerful presence. Channeling calli’s avatar. 🙂

  212. Gab

    (a) a person who, in the course of his or her professional work or other paid employment delivers health care, welfare, education, children’s services, residential services, or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children, and

    etc.

    Says nothing about lawyer-client privilege.

  213. Roger

    McCarrick, IIRC, did not abuse minors, he abused his position and took advantage of seminarians.

    Allegations related to a 16 y.o. and an 11 y. o. have been made, the former (50 years ago) was regarded as substantiated by a church investigation, the latter still to be investigated, iirc.

  214. cohenite

    More good news:

    The Australian Press Council has removed Carla McGrath as a member because her position as Deputy Chair of GetUp was “incompatible with her continued role as a public member of the Council”, according to a statement from the Council.
    “At its meeting in May, the Australian Press Council resolved that Ms McGrath’s position at GetUp created an ongoing and irreconcilable conflict of interest with her role on the Press Council,” the statement said.
    “As Ms McGrath chose not to resign either from the Press Council or as an officer of GetUp, the Council further resolved to take steps in accordance with its Constitution to remove her as a public member.
    “This action was concluded today at a General Meeting of the Press Council.
    “I believe this is the best outcome in a very difficult situation,” said Chair Neville Stevens. “Carla McGrath, as a respected member of Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community, would have brought an important perspective to the work of the Council. While the Council is committed to increasing diversity among its members, there is an overriding need for it to be independent and to be seen to be independent.”
    “Under the Press Council’s Constitution, any resolution to remove a public member before the expiration of their term must be passed by at least 75 per cent of members present at such a meeting. Details of the actual vote numbers, or how individual members voted, are never made public.”
    Her removal is understood to have been overwhelmingly endorsed at today’s general meeting, which was open to the 25 members of the Press Council as well as the 31 media companies that comprise the organisation’s constituent bodies.
    The Press Council declined to reveal details of the vote or to say how many media companies had sent representatives to the meeting.
    The Australian’s editor-in-chief, Paul Whittaker welcomed the Press Council’s “belated decision’’ to remove Ms McGrath but said it was “beyond belief’’ that she had been appointed in the first place.
    “The chairman and the Council have taken the only sensible course of action they could have to restore the Council’s credibility as it is ridiculous that the deputy chair of GetUp was ever appointed in the first place,’’ Whittaker said.
    “How anyone, including current members of the Council, could have thought that appointing a leader of a strident left-wing political activist organisation to an independent press watchdog would be acceptable is beyond belief.’’
    Her removal, which is believed to have immediate effect, puts an end to more than a year of turmoil that began on May 25 last year when a majority of Press Council members endorsed her nomination by former chairman David Weisbrot as a “public” member.
    The backlash, which began soon after her appointment became public, led to a boycott by The Australian of Press Council investigations and adjudications involving Ms McGrath. Newspapers in every state later joined the boycott.
    This led to the early resignation of Professor Weisbrot who was succeeded last year by Neville Stevens, a former senior public servant.
    In his letter of resignation, Professor Weisbrot said his reason for leaving was “persistent personal attacks” and a campaign of “misinformation” over Ms McGrath’s appointment.
    Earlier this year, Whittaker expressed disappointment at Ms McGrath’s appointment.
    At the time Whittaker had said: “GetUp is effectively another wing of the Labor Party and the Greens.
    “GetUp’s deputy chair Ms McGrath will be sitting in judgment at the Press Council on complaints over contentious newspaper stories about important matters in the public interest such as mining, climate change, immigration and asylum-seekers — all issues of which the organisation she represents has aggressively campaigned on from a Green-left position.
    “The Australian will not accept any adjudication finding that the GetUp deputy chair has participated in, as we have a reasonable apprehension of bias given the organisation’s strident political activism, including its campaigns against News Corp publications.”
    ———————–

  215. Baldrick

    Speaking of laptops, check out the picture in this tweet …

    Slate ✔ @Slate
    Two years into his presidency and Donald Trump still doesn’t use computers

  216. Farmer Gez

    I don’t know the accumulated rainfall to date, but I guess it’s on the low side. That’s a dismal outlook, Farmer Gez.

    I think the good agricultural areas of SA are having a good season Delta.
    Victoria is patchy. Good in the far West and SW but drying off badly in the NW. I went the the Wycheproof sheep sale today and the crops there were showing water stress and some frost damage as well.
    We’re further South and our crops still look fresh. A lucky 7mm in showers today.

  217. Makka

    dotty dotty dotty,

    My posts are up there where I have called out verballing. They are self explanatory. If you choose ignorance then that’s cool. I back up my assertions with explanations, unlike you. Like all your posts in the last hour or so , bullshit and assertions.

    You however are a liar. I’ve proved it on here time and again. I will again as well if I catch you lying. It’s one thing to be wrong, entirely another to lie as you habitually do.

    The worst part about you dotty, is you are a coward. Someone too gutless to even have a screen name for reference is truly inadequate. Stop asking for apologies. It’s pathetic.

  218. Sydney Boy

    Treated myself to a new Dell Alienware laptop at the end of the FY. New, fast, and great graphics for CAD.

  219. Gab

    I don’t “Skipe”, watch movies or play “games.”
    Just want something for email, trouble-free surfing and a filing cabinet for my docs and my large collection of Nigella pics.

    Doesn’t sound like you need anything expensive. Just something that supports the Office suite, email and search engines.

    let me know what you decide upon, CL.

  220. .

    Makka enough projection.

    You’ve been a real arsehole today to a whole bunch of people.

  221. DrBeauGan

    Mac’s are for lefty girly men.

    True. And Microsoft windows is for gamers and suchlike. Real men use Linux.

  222. Baldrick

    Get back to me when lawyers and media tarts are included with priests in being forced to divulge any criminal activity.

  223. cohenite

    (a) a person who, in the course of his or her professional work or other paid employment delivers health care, welfare, education, children’s services, residential services, or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children, and

    etc.

    Says nothing about lawyer-client privilege.

    It overrules it. For head prefect’s benefit there doesn’t have to be a crime just a reasonable belief a crime has happened.

  224. Infidel Tiger

    Thanks, Rambler, Habib.
    I don’t “Skipe”, watch movies or play “games.”
    Just want something for email, trouble-free surfing and a filing cabinet for my docs and my large collection of Nigella pics.

    Hahaha!

    Luckily for you nigella pics don’t use as many bits as they used too.

  225. .

    Compelling someone for reasonable belief (suspicion) under penalty of incarceration.

    There is no reason not to call this nonsense a thought crime.

  226. Elle

    There are a number of mandatory reporters in relation to notifying child welfare (FACS in NSW) that a child or children are at risk. Police, doctors, nurses, teachers, corrections officers etc – all front-line workers.

  227. Bruce of Newcastle

    Microsoft windows is for gamers and suchlike. Real men use Linux.

    Oxymoron!
    My ancient $600 Dell laptop can handily run full plant process models, but for real computing (ie games) I have desktop with a half gig SSD. I love SSDs.

  228. JC

    (a) a person who, in the course of his or her professional work or other paid employment delivers health care, welfare, education, children’s services, residential services, or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children, and

    etc.

    Says nothing about lawyer-client privilege.

    How does that cover a priest taking confession?

  229. Gab

    How does that cover a priest taking confession?

    They want priests to break the confessional seal by reporting a crime yet a client can tell his lawyer he abused a child and the law cannot force the lawyer to report it.

  230. DrBeauGan

    Oxymoron!
    My ancient $600 Dell laptop can handily run full plant process models, but for real computing (ie games) I have desktop with a half gig SSD. I love SSDs.

    I run Linux on a 1.5 tb ssd. Much faster than using the hd on the laptop.

    Games playing is excusable in small children.

  231. Tel

    Compelling someone for reasonable belief (suspicion) under penalty of incarceration.

    There is no reason not to call this nonsense a thought crime.

    Stalin had a small enhancement on the system… not only was it mandatory to report any signs of sabotage or counter-revolutionary activity but he also applied QUOTAS for such activity, based on how much he thought was probably going on in each local region. Something along the lines of, “Your town is mid-sized you should be arresting at least 5 enemies of the state each month.”

    Keep em on their toes 🙂

  232. Geriatric Mayfly

    WashPost: ‘Conservative Catholic Media’ Trying to Take Down Pope

    This is making me quite giddy. Only yesterday, the Left could find no crime more heinous than child abuse, and now it’s Conservatives who are undermining a Pope who is a bit shaky on this very issue.

    Last week, those bloody Conservatives took down an honourable and upright Prime Minister from the Tory Party, and again the Left cracked the sads.

  233. Bruce of Newcastle

    Games playing is excusable in small children.

    I have a childish delight in everything.
    Mathematics is so grey and staid.
    Messy real world is more fun!

  234. Infidel Tiger

    More banned words at The Australian: cultural genocide.

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