Monday Forum: September 10, 2018

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  1. DrBeauGan

    Memory Vault
    #2813469, posted on September 10, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    There are a lot of stupid people, and they have elected those who are like them

    Doctor BeauGan, that’s a disappointing comment coming from you. In 2013 Abbott was elected in the second biggest landslide in the history of federal politics. He campaigned on the message that we were facing a financial crisis and we had to pull our boots up. Once elected he then went on to abrogate nearly everything he got elected on.

    On the whole, I think Australians get the best of what’s on offer, but look at Hinch, Hanson-Young, Jacqui Lambi and Turnbull, and ask yourself if intelligent, thoughtful voters would have voted for them. Loads of women still like Turnbull, presumably because he wears well cut suits. They certainly haven’t got a clue about his character.

    And yes, they vote for those who best manipulate them. Which really isn’t very smart.

  2. Chris

    Behold!

    I won’t bleat at having clicked that link.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Member for Perth- I forget his name- made a forgettable debut speech in parliament today

    Labor royalty. Principal adviser to Kevin Rudd.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Live sheep export phase-out hits roadblock

    By Matt Coughlan
    Australian Associated Press
    35 minutes ago September 10, 2018

    A push to end live sheep exports has been shelved in federal parliament after coalition MPs opposed to the trade refused to vote to ban it.

    Legislation to phase out live sheep exports within five years and end the trade to the Middle East during the northern summer passed the Senate on Monday morning.

    But Labor’s push to have the bill debated in the House of Representatives was headed off in the afternoon with the government prevailing 72-70

    Liberal MPs Sarah Henderson and Sussan Ley both oppose the trade but their recent elevation to the frontbench forced them to vote with the government.

    The newly-promoted pair are hopeful a soon-to-be released review into the Agriculture Department will keep the issue in the spotlight

    “Labor’s actions today were a disingenuous attempt to disrupt parliament masquerading behind the cause of animal welfare,” they said in a statement.

    “Our personal conviction on this issue remains and we will continue to advocate for a change in coalition policy and for a phase out of this awful trade.”

    From the Oz. Sussan Ley, Minister for Regional Development, wants to ban the live sheep trade. Riiiiiiiiight….

  5. mh

    C.L.
    #2813233, posted on September 10, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Channel Nine are promoting the “first ever” women’s rugby league grand final (to be played before the real one later this month). Nobody cares but they have to pretend. Like a lot of other things these days. Nobody cares + must pretend.

    ABC cared a lot about the women’s State of Origin. They are still showing footage of it. Or to be more precise, they are still using the image of the two captains locking lips after the match.

  6. Geriatric Mayfly

    That is nothing, from the comment section there is this.
    Behold!

    Emerging from the primeval slime, perfectly formed for a trip to The Shopping Mall, and made in God’s image. Even Rubens would blanche at this over endowment of flesh and lard.

  7. zyconoclast

    Malek Fahd, Australia’s largest Islamic school, has funding restored

    Australia’s largest Islamic school has had its funding permanently restored by new federal Education Minister Dan Tehan, after several years of court battles.

    The Malek Fahd Islamic School’s future hung in the balance after a full bench of the Federal Court dismissed an appeal against its $19 million federal funding cut earlier this year.

    Former federal education minister Simon Birmingham cut the school’s funding in 2016, saying it had several governance issues and was operating at a profit.

    However, major reforms have occurred to bring the school, which has about 2,500 kindergarten to Year-12 students, in line with education department rules.

    Mr Fahd’s school board took Mr Birmingham’s decision to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, and the Federal Court.

    The school’s largest campus is in Greenacre, on land owned by the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils (AFIC).

    “The approval has been given subject to the board meeting numerous conditions and following a robust and rigorous assessment process,” Mr Tehan said.

    He added that the Australian Government would not tolerate the misuse of taxpayer dollars intended for schools.

    “All school authorities must meet the requirements of the Education Act to ensure taxpayer dollars, as well as any private investment by parents, is spent to benefit Australian students,” he said.

    “To remain an approved authority, the Malek Fahd Islamic School must ensure the board is demonstrably independent of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, along with several other conditions.”

  8. Memory Vault

    And yes, they vote for those who best manipulate them. Which really isn’t very smart.

    The point is, the voters don’t really have much of a choice, Dr BeauGan. The pollies are ALL lying, manipulative pricks, who’d sell their own grandmothers if there was a vote in it.

  9. That is nonsense. He could have spent the time laying the groundwork for the proposed legislation, spending cuts etc

    And with the hostile press + Mr & Ms Leaker-in-chief how do you think that would have fared ? Seriously !

  10. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    FEMALE surfers wearing high-cut bikini bottoms have been given reassurance their backsides won’t be broadcast around the world. At least not close ups.

    SJWs don’t understand wamen. High cut bikinis are worn precisely to be broadcast around the world. The rule is ignore what comes out of the mouth and listen to the actions.

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    Despite my dislike of the man, one of the saddest sights in the House, was Rudd on the back bench immediately after his usurpation. Abbott not so much, he seemed to be able to take it all on the chin, at least outwardly. Forgotten where the Slapper went. And The Waffler scuttles off to NY. rather than imbibe his dose of medicine.

  12. Gab

    “To remain an approved authority, the Malek Fahd Islamic School must ensure the board is demonstrably independent of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, along with several other conditions.”

    LOL Oh how easy it will be for them to lie to the kaffir.

  13. Memory Vault

    Thanks, Zippy. I didn’t know women’s surfing could be so, err, “energetic”.
    If I die in my sleep tonight it will be with a smile on my face.

  14. Steve trickler

    “Our personal conviction on this issue remains and we will continue to advocate for a change in coalition policy and for a phase out of this awful trade.”

    Someone needs to ask Sussan Ley, her preferred choice of country that will fill the live trade gap, if Australia exits the market. Who takes over the supply, Susan? Who’d you be the most happy with?

    And what are their animal welfare standards in comparison to ours?

  15. Gab

    So Quaedvlieg lied about Dutton’s au pair. Gosh, I’m shocked. I bet turnbull put him up to it.

  16. candy

    So Quaedvlieg lied about Dutton’s au pair. Gosh, I’m shocked. I bet turnbull put him up to it.

    Notice how PM Morrison is not giving much support to Dutton. The chap is on his own.

  17. Crossie

    Today in parliament Shorten, who stabbed two prime ministers, is haranguing ScoMo, who also stabbed two prime ministers, to explain why he is now the PM. That’s what you call chutzpah.

  18. Crossie

    Notice how PM Morrison is not giving much support to Dutton. The chap is on his own.

    For a Christian ScoMo is not very grateful or even gracious to the one who afforded him the opportunity to realise his ambition.

  19. John Constantine

    https://www.sheepcentral.com/new-zealand-to-ban-mulesing-as-alternative-enters-commercialisation/

    Jacindamania.

    New Zealand tightens up a lot of animal husbandry practises. Not that many merinos in NZ, lot of less likely to get struck non wool breeds.

    Their abc have been relentless in their war against meat, with mulesing just one battlefront. If theywin this one, they will redeploy their troops onto the next battlefield within hours.

  20. Crossie

    Someone needs to ask Sussan Ley, her preferred choice of country that will fill the live trade gap, if Australia exits the market. Who takes over the supply, Susan? Who’d you be the most happy with?

    And what are their animal welfare standards in comparison to ours?

    I don’t think Argentina, particularly now in their straitened circumstances, would be particularly fussed about the plight of their exports.

  21. candy

    Today in parliament Shorten, who stabbed two prime ministers, is haranguing ScoMo, who also stabbed two prime ministers, to explain why he is now the PM. That’s what you call chutzpah.

    True enough. Scott Morison worked with the Turnbull/Pyne/Bishop to dispose of Abbott.
    When they tried the first time, the first attempted spill, but Ipsos poll but a stop to it, because it showed the government 51/49. I remember Scott Morrison’s pale dejected face in Question Time and when he walked out of the parliamentary place. He was disappointed. He’s a long term planner.

  22. Roger

    So Quaedvlieg lied about Dutton’s au pair.

    Colour me surprised.

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Someone needs to ask Sussan Ley, her preferred choice of country that will fill the live trade gap, if Australia exits the market. Who takes over the supply, Susan? Who’d you be the most happy with?

    And what are their animal welfare standards in comparison to ours?

    Who takes over the supply, Sussan? Anyone of thirty or so other nations that still export live sheep.

    And what are their animal welfare standards in comparison with ours? No – where near as high.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Crossie
    #2813537, posted on September 10, 2018 at 7:52 pm
    Today in parliament Shorten, who stabbed two prime ministers, is haranguing ScoMo, who also stabbed two prime ministers, to explain why he is now the PM. That’s what you call chutzpah.

    And did the useless Libs fire back \?
    “Tell us all about it Pieman! You stabbed two of them in the back for your union mates!”
    Nup.
    Sat there and took it, aided and abetted by Pahn still trying to chip away at Dutton.

  25. John Constantine

    Quatar sovereign wealth fund sells out of Australian livestock investments. as it abandons the theory of producing the meat for quatar in Australia itself, to sourcing it from elsewhere.

    https://www.sheepcentral.com/property-hassads-70m-telopea-downs-sale-sets-vic-record/

  26. Dave in Marybrook

    ABCer kissed/assaulted was Jen Fricker.
    She’s a young up-and-comer, who sailed into failsafe comedy primetime with a talk-to-camera series about how she personally deals with modern mores- ie, what every other standup routine has ever been about.
    She’s then gone to JJJ radio, and now due for the revolving ABC/Ten celebrity commentary carousel.
    What I’m saying is, I think she’ll bounce back from the “assault” very quickly, and do her debriefing directly to camera for a long time, both with a serious misogyny and women’s right to safety version (Q&A) and a laff-a-minute retooling (breakfast radio) and of course the little bit of both combo (the Project).

  27. cohenite

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #2813519, posted on September 10, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    Twerking should be an Olympic sport.

  28. Crossie

    And did the useless Libs fire back \?
    “Tell us all about it Pieman! You stabbed two of them in the back for your union mates!”
    Nup.
    Sat there and took it, aided and abetted by Pahn still trying to chip away at Dutton.

    The Libs have always been deadlier to their own than the enemy.

    Rowan Dean is convinced Libs will win the next election because of ScoMo. I disagree because nothing has changed, Labor is still way ahead even though ScoMo is preferred to Shorten as PM. Unless Libs deliver some tangibles before the election it will be PM Shorten next year.

  29. Makka

    And with the hostile press + Mr & Ms Leaker-in-chief how do you think that would have fared ? Seriously !

    Abbott always had the choice to boot the Turdball into the back bench, but didn’t. Unlike Turdball who wasted no time in putting Abbott out of action. Here again, Abbott’s appeasing nature failed him dismally.

  30. John Constantine

    https://www.sheepcentral.com/weekly-property-review-is-the-goat-bubble-about-to-burst/

    Goats are good to go.

    Exclusion fencing can be profitable is a take home message. I dread the day that it is Required to build dog and fox and kangaroo proof fences to run livestock, but it is coming.

    Technically, having a dedicated lambing paddock where ewes are put on feed to lamb down in an area where predators [besides eye-picking crows] are excluded almost looks economic, but a management nightmare.

  31. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My concern is your use of “scattering”. I reckon I could use it to show sir William Slim is the thin man. Tbere seems to be no brake on the scope for self deception. This is a worry.
    A scientist has to go to considerable trouble to make sure he isn’t fooling himself. . it’s all too easy, and it usually comes back to bite him on the bum when he succumbs. So scientists build in lots of checks and train themselves to doubt.
    One such check is to ask yourself the simple question: what evidence would have to turn up to prove me wrong?

    You clearly haven’t read very much theoretical linguistics then, Dr. BG. Linguists working back on a ‘scatter’ from current usages of terms that are related in a range of Indo-European languages arrive at a ‘stem’ or ‘root’ set of phonemes in what they determine as the ‘original’ Indo-European language, or even the ‘Proto-Indo-European’ form. The phonemic issue comes down to contextual usages as well as likely (rather than difficult) linguistic sound changes. There would be no contextual usage for Sir William Slim and Vortigern the Thin. There is such a context for a mythological figure such as I claim Vortigern to be, (it simply means Great Leader, and in the period under study ‘tigern’ was also a term applied to gods as well as real people). In popular stories this figure became known as ‘thin’ because he was said to be a homeless and incapable man, bested by the Ambrosius figure (another invented figure drawn in this case from an actual personage). This, by the way, is only one of a number of contextual connections that I make regarding figures traditionally associated with the early ‘Arthurian’ textual references and it is by no means the strongest one.

    Linguistic evidence too is only one of the ways, although an extremely valuable one, in which I pull together a ‘general theory’ of the demise of an old god under the pressures of firstly Caesarian and then Roman Trinitarian proscriptions. I am well aware of the ‘hammer/nail’ delusion that can creep in to just simple linguistic similarities. One of my ‘checks’ in the development of my theory is to recognise that there is more than one origin of the name of Arthur, although the Alfoor (Alhfthur) example is far more likely to be the one used in the Old Brythonnic ‘Afdereiddyn to Arthuret’ name scatter – recognising too that other associated textual evidence exists, with some scholarly acceptance beyond mine, that this famous battle seems to have been about a religious dispute. Most importantly, as a person with some training in history (a university major) I am always seeking contextual validation for any connection linguistically that I discern, such as textual, genetic or archaeological validation, or known events elsewhere.

    Christopher Gidlow is a recent writer in the ‘real Arthur’ tradition now rejected completely by recent historical work. Gidlow attempts to knock on the head the ‘mythological’ Arthur thesis by a re-examination of so-called Arthurian battles, arguing strongly they were organised by one man who must have been Arthur. He fails in this endeavour to make a convincing ‘alternative’ case, being far too reliant on two things: one, the existence of a Saxon invasion, and second, the validity of an old Welsh poem that agglomerates various internecine battles across Britian, attributing all of these, in one late source, to an ‘Arthur’. The mythological Arthur stands – see Manchester University historian Nicholas Higgam in particular, plus the careful work of Green drawing upon earlier demolition work done by Padel and Dumford, in particular refuting the historical military imagination of the historian John Morris. It is unlikely other evidence could be contrived for it to be otherwise. So there is your negative case. The Arthurian tradition creates its contrived Arthur from an agglomeration of historical and fabricated personages spurred on the the ‘real’ Arthur searchers who will not put this old god to rest.

    My article is highly condensed and quite complicated, I do agree. I have taken a new approach to much of the textual material that has been used to demonstrate the existence of a ‘real’ Arthur with a particular floruit. I am certainly not the first recent historian to do this, but I am the only one so far to have completed the drawing together of the dots by providing an overall thesis of how the name gained both its popular salience, its obvious antiquity, and its mythological apparatus, as well as showing how a process of demise is reflected in remnant usages that draw upon false interpretations of both floruit (period of existence) and existence itself.

    I joke to other supportive scholars I am in touch with that I wrote the piece in case I should in my travels ‘fall off the twig’ and the ideas become lost. Other scholars can take it form there. After yesterday’s near miss in a lift, perhaps that was wise. 😀

  32. zyconoclast

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    #2813519, posted on September 10, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    Twerking should be an Olympic sport.

    It almost is. Have you seen womens beach volleyball?

  33. None

    What a coincidence, he was in Melbourne to watch his footy team play last night, Rabbits 28, Storm 29.When will these travel rorts end?? https://t.co/FgIflHo07d— Real Mark Latham (@RealMarkLatham) September 8, 2018

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  34. Armadillo

    Sinc, please smote Frank and promote Zyco as the new website manager. Good Lordy.

  35. Armadillo

    Zyco deserves a role here. He can do whatever the hell it is that Jacques pretends to do. Put him on the payroll.

  36. Mitch M.

    it’s all too easy, and it usually comes back to bite him on the bum when he succumbs. So scientists build in lots of checks and train themselves to doubt.

    You are an optimist. 🙂

  37. Boambee John

    Diogenes at 1849

    And then promptly lost all momentum because the senate race in WA had to be rerun.

    Because Their AEC managed to “lose” around 1100 huge Senate ballot papers! Must have weighed in at over 10 kilos of paper.

  38. Steve trickler

    Jordan Peterson was correct.

    Banning Alex Jones, like or dislike, was a bad idea. YT / Google will have to devote resources to keep him of the platform. People are running amok posting all the infowars videos.

    Great laugh.

  39. Armadillo

    Zyco could replace Judith Sloane as a guest columnist. I’m not anticipating you will get any complaints.

  40. 2dogs

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2813558, posted on September 10, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    The whole Arthurian/Vortigen, etc mythology has been largely debunked by the archaeological evidence.

    What appears to have happened is that the Angles simply turned up in Albion and started farming. There was no real military conflict with the Romano-British, since the Angles had no real wish to fight, and the Romano-British had no legions to fight them with. There is evidence of trading activity between the two groups.

  41. Mitch M.

    Some of this is technical and interesting but at my age I it is too late in the day for me. Here’s a hint: optimise your sleep habits. Extremely important.

    https://lifeboat.com/blog/2018/09/the-alzheimers-hypothesis

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    On route, on time and landfall identified. Hurricane Florence fits the pattern perfectly. September 11 is a reserved date in the Atlantic hurricane diary. But this will be overlooked, and she will become another interloper, running amok because of global warming, and any succeeding her passage will be labelled as extraordinary man-made events which have no precedent.

  43. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “China is a calculating financier. Most of its loans are collateralized against strategic assets like minerals or seaports,” Wamanji wrote. In Congo, for example, China has seized mining rights to copper and cobalt deposits—key materials for developing China’s new vehicles industry—after years of investment in the central African nation.

    “When states default on the loans, this affords China the liberty to seize assets, and even territory, in lieu of the repayments,” Wamanji added.

    —-
    so much for, the only thing the chicoms could do with trade surplus $$ was buy US bonds.

  44. JC

    That’s great Zipperhead, but there’s nothing really new in that, as country to country loans are very frequently tied to assets of sorts. The trouble for China is how does it take over those assets in case of default. Sending in troops is called an occupation and they wouldn’t do that if they’re rational. As always happens in Africa, the governments will default and China will have to lump it like everyone else has. Same old.

  45. Makka

    Australia’s Skilled Migration Program: Scarce Skills Not
    Required

    Conclusion
    Australia’s high migration policy is defended by the claim that it is delivering the scarce high level
    skills needed to help maintain economic growth. The reality is quite different. Migration policy has
    been reformulated precisely to avoid confining the skilled program to occupations that are in
    shortage.

    Instead, the program is directed to delivering professionals who might be needed in the medium to
    long-term. To the extent that the current program does deliver any scarce skills this is an accidental
    rather than a planned outcome.

    Critically, the three major Categories of the Skill Stream – the Employer Sponsored, Skilled
    Independent, and State & Territory & Regional Sponsored – are all to be tied to the MLTSSL( Medium to Long-Term Strategic Skill List), despite the fact that listing does not require any current skill shortage.
    The Skill Stream could be abolished and employers would hardly notice.

    The Skill Stream is really about numbers, the ‘Treasury numbers’ needed to sustain Australia’s rate
    of economic growth and the Commonwealth’s projected tax revenues.
    The Coalition, Labor and Greens effectively have prioritised these ends above the concerns of
    Australians living in the metropolitan areas. They have been left to put up with the loss of urban
    amenity, high dwelling prices and the costs of providing the additional infrastructure needed to
    accommodate population growth in their cities.

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Final-March-8-Australias-skilled-migration-program-1.pdf

    How the Uniparty shafts us.

  46. H B Bear

    Sending in the gun boats went out of fashion in the early 20th century. Chinks might need to rethink that approach.

    Ask ConocoPhillips how useful judgments against foreign assets are.

  47. H B Bear

    The Skill Stream is really about numbers, the ‘Treasury numbers’ needed to sustain Australia’s rate
    of economic growth and the Commonwealth’s projected tax revenues.

    Papering over the cracks with the population property Ponzi.

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ah, Lizzie!

    You might enjoy the novel I’m rereading. Three Hearts and Three Lions by Poul Anderson.
    Based on the mythology of Holger Danske.

    Anderson brings some Arthurian and Carolingian stuff into his story too. But Holger Danske has his own cycle, linking to Roland and Charlemagne and yes, Nazis. It also occurs to me that Holger and Arthur are not so different in linguistic terms.

    Rollicking tale, not too long, highly recommended.

  49. JC

    so much for, the only thing the chicoms could do with trade surplus $$ was buy US bonds.

    No one here or anyone else has said that Zipperhead. Only stupid people would say and believe that.

    China’s avenue to to invest their Dollar surplus isn’t just limited to the US bond market or US assets. Those Dollars could could go through countless owners until the last one buys US assets, but those Dollars have to come home to the US, otherwise the US balance of payments wouldn’t ummm balance and the global balance of payments is also in balance.

  50. DrBeauGan

    Mitch M.
    #2813565, posted on September 10, 2018 at 8:42 pm
    it’s all too easy, and it usually comes back to bite him on the bum when he succumbs. So scientists build in lots of checks and train themselves to doubt.

    You are an optimist.

    It’s the way the real sciences used to work. Before the universities went for bums on seats to placate bureaucrats.

  51. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    That’s great Zipperhead, but there’s nothing really new in that, as country to country loans are very frequently tied to assets of sorts. The trouble for China is how does it take over those assets in case of default. Sending in troops is called an occupation and they wouldn’t do that if they’re rational. As always happens in Africa, the governments will default and China will have to lump it like everyone else has. Same old.

    Not keeping up with the news?

    How China Got Sri Lanka to Cough Up a Port

    no troops required

  52. JC

    A mining dude told me about a China/African story a few years ago, but I can’t recall the name of the place.

    China built all sorts of shit in the country including constructing various mines. They also built the fuckers a swanky soccer stadium and as soon as the stadium was built, the Africans told the Chinese to fuck off. And fuck off they did. Freebies are useful at times. 🙂

  53. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    No one here or anyone else has said that Zipperhead.

    I beg to differ. This was discussed exactly here on why trade deficits don’t matter many years ago and that was exactly part the argument used.

  54. JC

    Your link doesn’t work, zipperhead.

  55. Mitch M.

    It’s the way the real sciences used to work. Before the universities went for bums on seats to placate bureaucrats.

    Dr. BG some of the comments I see from US academics make me wonder how much longer science is viable in modern universities. The rot runs deep. Today I read an article about how two scientists sought to obtain all the primary data from some psychology and psychiatry studies. The request was mostly refused.

  56. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Those Dollars could could go through countless owners until the last one buys US assets, but those Dollars have to come home to the US,

    In the meanwhile chicoms use them to wield power internationally.

  57. DrBeauGan

    Lizzie, I have done some reading in linguistics. The fact that Chomsky is regarded as an intellectual giant in the subject is damning.

  58. JC

    I beg to differ. This was discussed exactly here on why trade deficits don’t matter many years ago and that was exactly part the argument used.

    You can “differ” all you want, but it’s not either theoretically, nor practically correct. China doesn’t have to buy any US assets. It could theoretically buy Euros thereby strengthening the Euro and in turn the Europeans would then buy the dollars.

    Balance of payments have to balance, Zipperhead

    Now it doesn’t have to be the Chinese who buy those dollars assets, as they could recycle in other ways, but at the end of the day the US will be square because buyers will show up either holding US bank deposits, or US assets. More than likely the bulk would be the Chinese.

  59. JC

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2813622, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    How China Got Sri Lanka to Cough Up a Port

    So if Sri Lanka sends in the troops and takes over the port, you reckon China will retaliate through military means?

    Bullshit.

  60. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813627, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:25 pm
    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2813622, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    How China Got Sri Lanka to Cough Up a Port

    So if Sri Lanka sends in the troops and takes over the port, you reckon China will retaliate through military means?

    Bullshit.

    In Tibet, the Chinese are sending in Han Chinese by the thousand to displace the local Tibetans.
    “According to Tibetan exiles, currently the region is home to about 7.5 million Han Chinese compared to 6 million Tibetans” AsiaNews.it 01/27/2015

    Are they doing the same in other countries?

  61. Snoopy

    What’s the USD/LKR fixed exchange rate and on what date was the rate fixed?

  62. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle ar 2109

    Holger Danske has his own cycle, linking to Roland and Charlemagne and yes, Nazis.

    Holger Danske is supposed to arouse himself when Denmark is in danger. He apparently regarded Hitler as not worthy of his attention.

    When he does get cranky, it will be a sight to behold!

  63. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You can “differ” all you want, but it’s not either theoretically, nor practically correct. China doesn’t have to buy any US assets. It could theoretically buy Euros thereby strengthening the Euro and in turn the Europeans would then buy the dollars.

    you are off on a tangent, the point is about china’s use of power, specifically political power and its corrupting influence, with its vast treasury of USD. I don’t see any of that as benign.

  64. JC

    Are they doing the same in other countries?

    Tibet is different, Fats. China has pretty much considered Tibet sovereign Chinese territory and nearly all nations do.

  65. cohenite

    You might enjoy the novel I’m rereading. Three Hearts and Three Lions by Poul Anderson.
    Based on the mythology of Holger Danske.

    Three Hearts and Three Lions is the novel Heinlein should have wrote but instead he wrote Glory Road.

  66. JC

    you are off on a tangent, the point is about china’s use of power, specifically political power and its corrupting influence, with its vast treasury of USD. I don’t see any of that as benign.

    I didn’t say it was benign. Obviously, their attempt is to gain influence. I’m just sceptical it will amount to anything in the way you think it does. And no, I wasn’t off in a tangent. You were simply wrong, pure and simple.

  67. JC

    Snoopy
    #2813643, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    What’s the USD/LKR fixed exchange rate and on what date was the rate fixed?

    Ask you brother, Text. He’s the fireman after all.

  68. Boambee John

    Apparently (Paul Murrat Live) Quadvleig has admitted that some of his allegations about Dutton and the au pairs might not have been entirely accurate.

  69. JC

    Snoopy
    #2813643, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    What’s the USD/LKR fixed exchange rate and on what date was the rate fixed?

    Ask your brother, Text. He’s the fireman after all.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Holger Danske is supposed to arouse himself when Denmark is in danger. He apparently regarded Hitler as not worthy of his attention.

    Boambee John – Holger Danske (resistance group):

    Holger Danske (Danish pronunciation: [ˈhʌlɡɐ ˈdænsɡə]) was a Danish resistance group during World War II. It was created by veteran volunteers from the Winter War who had fought on the Finnish side against the Soviet Union. It was among the largest Danish resistance groups and consisted of around 350 volunteers towards the end of the war. The group carried out about 100 sabotage operations and was responsible for around 200 executions of informers who had revealed the identity and/or the whereabouts of members of the resistance.

  71. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813650, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:41 pm
    Are they doing the same in other countries?

    Tibet is different, Fats. China has pretty much considered Tibet sovereign Chinese territory and nearly all nations do.

    The Tibetans don’t.

    But are the Chicoms moving their people into the African & Pacific nations in significant numbers?

    Any move against their (Chinese) people may be what they want as an excuse to move their military in.
    Especially African countries with the potential for Rwanda-level mass murder of “others”.

  72. Snoopy

    Are they doing the same in other countries?

    Pretty much. Chicom funded developments in Africa are built with Chicom labour. All PLA reportedly. Even the truck drivers are Chicoms. One thing Africa isn’t short of is truck drivers.

    The huge Chicom funded goverment office block in Tonga was built with Chicom labour.

  73. John Constantine

    There is one small bankrupt country, with no ability to project military power and with its politicians corrupted by chicom donations.

    It used to have a large Antarctic territory, where the chicom Antarctic territory now is. The chicoms walked in, built their missile tracking bases and poached the Patagonian toothfish and factory fished the krill.

    Total silence.

  74. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China Takes Control of Cobalt Mines as It Advances Its Battery Industry for Electric Vehicles

    While Japanese electric carmakers are struggling to acquire the mineral and called for government assistance during a July 24 industry meeting in Tokyo, Chinese companies have been able to control one of the world’s key sources: mines in the central African nation of the Democratic Republic of Congo, which is one of the world’s poorest countries.

    More than half of the world’s cobalt originates from Congo, and China’s control of the cobalt industry is as if it “had total control over oil fields in the Middle East,” an unidentified official with Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry told Nikkei.

  75. Snoopy

    The Chicom funded and built national stadium in Zimbabwe lasted just 25 years before it was closed as unsafe. Required a comprehensive rebuild.

  76. JC

    The Tibetans don’t.

    Sure, but the rest of the world does.

    But are the Chicoms moving their people into the African & Pacific nations in significant numbers?

    Any move against their (Chinese) people may be what they want as an excuse to move their military in.
    Especially African countries with the potential for Rwanda-level mass murder of “others”.

    Look, there’s nothing decent about the Chinese regime. They’re cocksucking fascists. They have absolutely no soft power in the world with the exception of North Korea as no one trusts them.

    If they moved on a nation in say Africa and sent in troops the costs would be enormous to them. But sure, they are negative.

  77. John Constantine

    The Indian aircraft carrier task forces aren’t being built to fight Pakistan or the chicoms.

    Any threat to the Indian diaspora in the Pacific islands, or Durban, and the fleet can sail up and fly off significantly impressive fly-bys.

  78. JC

    More than half of the world’s cobalt originates from Congo, and China’s control of the cobalt industry is as if it “had total control over oil fields in the Middle East,” an unidentified official with Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry told Nikkei.

    Yea well, they once said that about rare earths, which didn’t turn out to be that rare.

    Basalt may be difficult though. It may have been Bruce from N who could have alerted us to it. Either it was Bruce or a mining dude once suggested that to me. Can’t recall.

  79. John Constantine

    If one political party in power in an African state humiliates the chicoms, the flow of chicom money flows straight to the dastiari types in the opposition.

    Easier to buy an election in a lot of countries than Australia, and we put out for a pack of winnie blues and a cask of lady in a boat.

    Comrades.

  80. Oh come on

    LOL militarily occupying post-colonial Africa? That had got to be the mother of all fool’s errands. Go for it, China! You know you want to.

  81. JC

    John C

    How successful were the Sovs in gaining a permanent foothold in Africa?

  82. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813683, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:54 pm
    The Tibetans don’t.

    Sure, but the rest of the world does.

    Australia will be in that category soon enough

  83. Oh come on

    Dear China. Liberia needs a stable occupying power. So does neighbouring Sierra Leone. The world invites you to intervene as you could surely bring peace to these troubled nations that are obviously crying out for a paternal guiding hand.

  84. JC

    Australia will be in that category soon enough

    How so?

  85. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813695, posted on September 10, 2018 at 9:59 pm
    LOL militarily occupying post-colonial Africa? That had got to be the mother of all fool’s errands. Go for it, China! You know you want to.

    I was thinking more of pouring in millions of their own people – God knows they can spare a few hundred million.
    Colonising, then protecting.

  86. Snoopy

    How successful were the Sovs in gaining a permanent foothold in Africa?

    The Russians and their Cuban allies were a major force behind the decolonisation movement. Since all the newly independent nations with the exception of Botswana had socialist governments I’d say they did pretty well.

  87. JC

    Fats

    China has the worst demographics of any decent sized country in the world. My humble opinion is that the peak of Chinese power is now because in 20 years time they will be fast becoming a nation of old unhappy geezers. Old folk don’t want adventures.

  88. Oh come on

    In the early 2000s, the idea of Western globalist types was to restrain China by inextricably entangling it in the institutions of global governance. I’m not sure that’s worked out so well for anyone bar the Chinese.

    Now, perhaps it would be a better idea to get the Chinese inextricably entangled in the African continent. That could be a winner.

  89. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813703, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:03 pm
    Australia will be in that category soon enough

    How so?

    How many of our politicians do the Chicoms own?

  90. Makka

    More than half of the world’s cobalt originates from Congo, and China’s control of the cobalt industry is as if it “had total control over oil fields in the Middle East,” an unidentified official with Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry told Nikkei.

    True but that control comes at significant country and health risk. The DRC isn’t Botswana. All factored in to China’s risk management which is to say a wing and a prayer. Related to favored nation treatment, China in Africa builds bridges, roads, railways , multitudes of buildings etc often against easily corrupted never never loans. All designed for a shelf life long enough to avoid embarrassment but nothing lasting. Like many of the Govts and politicians they make deals with. In other words, a lot of these places remain shitholes even with the shiny new Chinese stuff.

  91. Top Ender

    New Zealand’s government wants the Maori language to be able to be taught in all primary schools alongside maths, English and science but admits it’s not an easy goal.

    While the language, te reo Maori, is one of three officially recognised in New Zealand — alongside English and New Zealand Sign Language — it’s currently not compulsory and not taught at many schools.

    Monday marked the start of Maori Language Week in New Zealand, an annual event that has in recent years received increasing attention from media, businesses and politicians.

    Maori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta told the AM Show the government wanted te reo to be a “core subject” in primary schools by 2025.

    “The Maori language is one of the best ways to say ‘We are New Zealanders’,” she said.

    But, with current shortages of teachers in the subject, there was a “huge challenge ahead”.

    “It’s really hard to find teachers who can backfill, certainly within the kura kaupapa (Maori-language immersion) system — I expect that is the case within the mainstream,” she said.

    Government ministers have avoided using the word “compulsory” — which has proved controversial in the past — in favour of “universal availability”. The primary teachers’ union and the Green Party both on Monday, however, called on the government to go a step further and resource teaching in every class. While the use of words and phrases in Maori is common in New Zealand and interest in the language as part of the national identity has grown in recent decades, 2013 census figures suggested as few 50,000 people spoke it at a high level, while about 150,000 were conversational.

    The government wants to have a million residents speaking at a basic level by 2040 and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has said she wants to raise her daughter, Neve, speaking both Maori and English.

    There’s also been a recent surge in interest in beginner Maori courses across the country, with providers saying they had to leave hundreds of people on waiting lists this year.

    Link

    More virtue signalling.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cobalt is rarish. Quite a lot of it in WA in nickel laterite deposits. Pity that there’re so many barriers to mining stuff here in Australia.

    On the other hand cobalt is only valuable for LiCoO2 batteries. There are alternatives like LiFePO4 and LiMnO2 battery systems. Those don’t require expensive rarish metals like cobalt. It’s no surprise that the Chinese tend to go for the LiFePO4 system.

    Musk is a LiCoO2 fan because that system has the highest power density. But then he doesn’t seem to have a good handle on things like market forces. Can’t whistle up 50,000 tonnes of cobalt out of thin air.

  93. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813712, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:07 pm
    Fats

    China has the worst demographics of any decent sized country in the world. My humble opinion is that the peak of Chinese power is now because in 20 years time they will be fast becoming a nation of old unhappy geezers. Old folk don’t want adventures.

    Don’t get personal, young fella

  94. John Constantine

    Their caliph erdogan could be described as the frontrunner in the new great grab for Africa.

    Turkey is a near colonial power in North Africa, the central Asian ‘stans and in the Balkans.

    Not a lot of money in the scheme of things, but a lot of punch.

  95. Oh come on

    I was thinking more of pouring in millions of their own people – God knows they can spare a few hundred million.

    Actually, they can’t. Quite the opposite. China is facing a population collapse over the coming decades. In stark contrast, Africa’s population is exploding moreso than in any other continent.

    Africa is the perfect place for an ambitious yet best restrained country like China to get bogged down in.

  96. DrBeauGan

    Dr. BG some of the comments I see from US academics make me wonder how much longer science is viable in modern universities. The rot runs deep. Today I read an article about how two scientists sought to obtain all the primary data from some psychology and psychiatry studies. The request was mostly refused.

    I used to require my doctoral and master’s students to give in their theses and dissertations the url of a site containing all their data and the source code for the programs they used to analyze it. Anything less would have been unthinkable.

    I don’t regard psychology or psychiatry as intellectually respectable. Nor medical research. I’ve known too many people in the area and read too many papers.

    Nor linguistics.

  97. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813726, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Actually, they can’t. Quite the opposite. China is facing a population collapse over the coming decades. In stark contrast, Africa’s population is exploding moreso than in any other continent.

    Africa is the perfect place for an ambitious yet best restrained country like China to get bogged down in.

    I’d like to see that.

    Pity about the exploding African population though – they will flood the West, along with their crap culture and make the world one great black Islamic shit-hole.

  98. Makka

    Yea well, they once said that about rare earths, which didn’t turn out to be that rare.

    Basalt may be difficult though.

    Cobalt? It’s an issue now but lots of technological and research firepower being expended to find substitutes in battery technology. The DRC’s biggest resource asset remains copper but Cobalt is strategic. I think Bruce once had some interesting points on battery storage/discharge rates that made cobalt still look like the only game in town-for now. Anyhow, cobalt prices have skyrocketed then flattened out for over a year while the real world catches up, verifying demand forecasts. It’s a very interesting set of dynamics.

  99. JC

    Oh yea, cobalt, no basalt. Whoops.

  100. John Constantine

    Their caliph erdogan’s policy of recruiting janissaries from the population of the countries he sees as part of the caliphate means no Turkish soldiers need be deployed, the revolution uses self replicating meat drones.

    He even controls a swathe of mosquebunkers in Australia, staffed by his chosen men and every Friday reading approved messages from erdogans department of thinking.

  101. .

    Susan Ley is also the member for Farrer. Southern and SW NSW, Albury to Wentworth etc.

    A lot of sheep farmers.

    It’s like they want to throw away safe rural seats.

  102. Fat Tony

    JC
    #2813740, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:18 pm
    Chinese populations projections suggest it will peak at 1.44 billion and then head toward 1 billion by 2094.

    I suspect that’s conservative because I’ve also seen projections of 700 million by that long date.

    Having a in-balance of the sexes (a lot more boys) doesn’t help. No matter how hard they try, 2 boys can’t make a baby.

  103. John Constantine

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/turkeys-booming-investments-africa-180301155947812.html

    “”We want to walk with Africa while a new world order is being established,” Erdogan said as quoted by Tukey’s official Presidential page at the end of his five-day tour of four African countries.

    Erdogan said he had held “productive” talks and made contacts in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal and Mali. “We love Africa and our African brothers without any bias,” Erdogan said.”

  104. JC

    Oh yea Erdogen, Turkey.

    Remind me again if their currency has been trashed? What currency are they going to use to influence Africa?

  105. John Constantine

    https://www.dw.com/en/turkeys-erdogan-seeks-more-influence-in-africa/a-42788010

    “Cagri Özdemir refers to the example of Somalia. “Turkey started engaging with Somalia which is a war-torn country decades ago and started with economic cooperation, with small steps. And over time it started engaging in reconstruction efforts, like a new airport, and some hospitals. It came to a point over the past summer that Turkey opened a military base and deployed a couple of hundred soldiers to train Somali troops,” Özdemir said.”

  106. .

    Cobalt?

    Those LiFePO batteries look pretty good…

  107. John Constantine

    Trump actually bombed the oil trucks conducting the trade between erdogan’s son and isis.

    If The Trumpnado can take some of the wind out of erdogans sails, nobody else would, the dirty scummy eurofilth are building up erdogans power to decolonialise the world as hard as Stalin himself would have.

    Comrades.

  108. rickw

    The Chicom funded and built national stadium in Zimbabwe lasted just 25 years before it was closed as unsafe. Required a comprehensive rebuild.

    The Chicoms build the world’s most shit infrastructure and the recipients all know it.

  109. John Constantine

    Erdogans bases and his work in Australia is funded by the Australian government, as we fund his diaspora here.

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Susan Ley is also the member for Farrer. Southern and SW NSW, Albury to Wentworth etc.

    A lot of sheep farmers.

    Sussan Ley is grandstanding. Very few, if any, of the farmers in her electorate, supply sheep to the live trade. The majority of the sheep supplied to the live trade are supplied by Western Australian farmers, and, if she wants to throw Western Australian farmers under a bus to win votes, well, I’ve got two words for her, and the first is “Get.”

  111. Oh come on

    they will flood the West, along with their crap culture and make the world one great black Islamic shit-hole.

    You realise that the vast majority of the African population isn’t Muslim?

    So they’re going to make the world one great black shithole. Classy stuff there.

  112. Makka

    “”We want to walk with Africa while a new world order is being established,” Erdogan said as quoted by Tukey’s official Presidential page at the end of his five-day tour of four African countries.

    Turkey has had a strong presence in the ME, Egypt and Libya before it imploded for some time. Mainly construction, roads and pipeline infrastructure. Moving further west seems along the NA coast makes sense. This is Erdogan looking after his big backers back home.

  113. JC

    Ronery.

    Question.

    Today you made out you were a sheep farmer of sorts. I recall some time ago though, you said you were preparing last BAS statement – sort of boasting about it, in that unique way you have about being a self funded retiree you often post about here. Boastfully

    Could you reconcile this for the readership. If you’re a farmer, as you suggested, you would be doing a quarterly BAS, no? If not, then you’re not a sheep farmer.

    Lastly, is there any way I can get the car this week?

  114. John Constantine

    https://www.zimbabwesituation.com/news/zimsit_zimbabwe-and-north-korea-uranium-elephants-and-a-massacre/

    “In October 1980 Mugabe signed an agreement with the North Korean leadership that stipulated that 106 North Korean military advisors would train and equip 3,500 soldiers loyal to Mugabe’s political party, the Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU). Mugabe was supposedly having trouble with internal “malcontents.” In August 1981, the advisors arrived in Harare, Zimbabwe’s capital, and though the North Koreans were reputed for their toughness, they became infamous for their lavish lifestyles and lack of personal discipline. Subsequently, the first group of North Koreans was phased out in 1982. The second group, under the command of Major General Sin Hyon Dok, trained the notorious Fifth Brigade that would carry out the brutal Gukurahundi campaign. The Fifth Brigade answered to only Mugabe and consequently saw themselves as above the law.

    The Fifth Brigade went on to kill 20,000 civilians in Matabeleland, the southern region of Zimbabwe populated by the ethnic Ndebele minority, which supported Mugabe’s main opposition, Joshua Nkomo, and the Zimbabwe African People’s Union (ZAPU). Gukurahundi, in Shona (one of the 16 official languages of Zimbabwe), means “the early rain which washes away the chaff before the spring rains.” During the campaign, numerous human rights atrocities were committed – the vast majority of those killed dug their own graves and were then shot in public executions.”

    Rule one, the new powers don’t send their own troops to do the dirty work.

    Erdogan will train and indoctrinate and unleash the meat drones, but not send his own troops as cannon fodder.

    The chicoms sent the machetes that were used to chop up a million Rwandans in the genocide, but the chicoms didn’t swing a single blade.

  115. Oh come on

    The chicoms sent the machetes that were used to chop up a million Rwandans in the genocide, but the chicoms didn’t swing a single blade.

    Delving into wacky conspiracy theory territory here.

  116. John Constantine

    What currency will erdogan use to buy influence in his coming caliphate?.

    The immortal souls of those that heed his message will gain entry to paradise and take their families with them.

    Pretty potent currency.

    The money that turkey can’t pay back was only borrowed from the eurofilth anyway, does anybody think erdogan cares if some eurobanks go tits up because he stiffs them?.

  117. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813785, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:40 pm
    they will flood the West, along with their crap culture and make the world one great black Islamic shit-hole.

    You realise that the vast majority of the African population isn’t Muslim?

    So they’re going to make the world one great black shithole. Classy stuff there.

    Classy alright – look at the crap they take with them wherever they infest places.

    If African culture is so great, where are the great African civilisations? Why do they all want to go to the West?
    The Africans going into Europe and the USA all seem to be moslems, and where have they actually improved any place they went to?

  118. JC

    The money that turkey can’t pay back was only borrowed from the eurofilth anyway, does anybody think erdogan cares if some eurobanks go tits up because he stiffs them?.

    Yes, but the loans is a one time thing and that money has already been spent. Future influence buying needs big bucks , or in this case , big Lira. The currency has collapsed.

  119. Oh come on

    Tell the people chopped up that the machetes didn’t come from the chicoms

    Firstly, I doubt chopped up people care much one way or the other.

    I am not trying to quibble with you over the origins of the weapons used to commit genocide in Rwanda. They may well have been predominantly Chinese. They may well not have been, too. I don’t know, and even if I did, I would say it’s an immaterial fact.

    I take issue with your inference that the Rwandan genocide was manufactured by the Chinese to allow them to overrun Africa decades into the future. That’s just ridiculous.

  120. Oh come on

    If African culture is so great

    Strawman.

  121. Snoopy

    Mugabe’s crushing of Soviet client ZAPU was an early indicator of the USSR’s decline and the Chicom ascendancy in Africa.

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ronery.

    Question.

    Today you made out you were a sheep farmer of sorts. I recall some time ago though, you said you were preparing last BAS statement – sort of boasting about it, in that unique way you have about being a self funded retiree you often post about here. Boastfully

    Could you reconcile this for the readership. If you’re a farmer, as you suggested, you would be doing a quarterly BAS, no? If not, then you’re not a sheep farmer.

    Lastly, is there any way I can get the car this week?

    Poor J.C’s in the mad house

    Doctors look at him, and cough

    Seems the course of his affliction

    Is too much jerking off.

  123. Oh come on

    The Africans going into Europe and the USA all seem to be moslems

    Um yes there are a lot of Muslims in north Africa. You can thank Hillary and Obama for their migration to Western countries – this movement of people was sparked by the toppling of Gaddafi.

  124. Snoopy

    Ex Belgian colony Rwanda is now a member of the Commonwealth.

  125. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813809, posted on September 10, 2018 at 10:53 pm
    If African culture is so great

    Strawman.

    Bullshit. You said that I was wrong with my contention that African culture is shit and they will make the world one great black shit-hole.
    Ergo, you must think that African culture is fine and great and worthy of promoting and adopting.
    So, where are these great African civilisations you appear to be describing?
    Tell me – how are the Africans going to transform Europe? More great cathedrals? Works of art? Music? Science?

    And referring to the Chicom machete supplying as “wacky conspiracy theory territory” is a bit fanciful.

  126. John Constantine

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/05/un-calls-emergency-meeting-african-swine-fever-china-confirms/

    “The United Nations has called an emergency meeting of animal disease experts amid fears African swine fever (ASF) is set to sweep through Asia and devastate pig farming”

  127. Oh come on

    Fat Tony, that is very poor trolling.

  128. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813816, posted on September 10, 2018 at 11:03 pm
    Fat Tony, that is very poor trolling.

    That’s a pretty piss-poor response. I never troll.
    Answer my question.

  129. JC

    Rones

    Making up bullshit about yourself when drunk is a really bad idea.

  130. Oh come on

    Answer my question.

    You seem to take yourself seriously. I don’t take you seriously. You are either trolling or a real dummy.

  131. max

    The Chicoms have really fucked up Hong Kong in a totally unnecessary heavy-handed way. Dumb as dogshit. They have interfered with academic appointments to Hong Kong U to the point where a wonderful old institution with an excellent reputation is being shredded.

  132. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813819, posted on September 10, 2018 at 11:09 pm
    Answer my question.

    You seem to take yourself seriously. I don’t take you seriously. You are either trolling or a real dummy.

    You made an inference that you can’t back up.
    I guess that makes you a fuckwit then.

    In future, I will not take you seriously and will ignore your crap.

  133. Oh come on

    Thanks, Tony. It’s better for me if I don’t engage with morons.

  134. cohenite

    This is an old discussion: present a current African civilization of note.

  135. Fat Tony

    Oh come on
    #2813823, posted on September 10, 2018 at 11:16 pm
    Thanks, Tony. It’s better for me if I don’t engage with morons.

    Guess you better stop talking to yourself then, fuckwit.

  136. Fat Tony

    cohenite
    #2813824, posted on September 10, 2018 at 11:18 pm
    This is an old discussion: present a current African civilization of note.

    OCO is having a bit of a problem with just that. Probably got a brain tumour.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rones

    Making up bullshit about yourself when drunk is a really bad idea.

    Poor J.C’s in the mad house

    Doctors look at him, and cough

    Seems the course of his affliction

    Is too much jerking off.

    I’m sorry, JC, if there is a point you wish to make?

  138. Oh come on

    Oh, zing! Well played, Tony.

    Sheesh.

    Cohenite: who gives a shit. I wasn’t even contending that matter.

  139. Oh come on

    I’m off to bed so I don’t catch the stupid from you, Tony. Night night.

  140. Natural Instinct

    The GO NSW Equity Fund was established last year in partnership with superannuation company First State Super and private equity firm ROC Partners, with the aim investing “$150 million in approved, high-potential companies which may not otherwise have access to suitable capital”.
    The government’s stake in AOC was part of a $10 million co-investment, which included $6.7 million from First State Super.
    ROC Partners have also invested an additional $10 million in AOC, taking the total investment in the company through the private equity firm to $20 million.
    According to a spokesman for Jobs for NSW, the investment is managed at “arm’s length by ROC Partners and Jobs for NSW has no role in day to day operations or management decisions of AOC”.

    .
    1) so ROC partners take a clip for managing a private equity fund that no-0ne else wants. Good work if you can get it.
    2) As a NSW tax resident I did not know I was in state owned business expansion – sounds like Venezuela
    3) can you imagine how many leeches are trying to find this public teat?
    .
    from a Liberal (sarc) government. Must have seemed a good idea at the time.

  141. Steve trickler

    She tells the story.



  142. zyconoclast

    Man arrested after seven wounded in Paris knife attack

    The attacker, who one police source said was from Afghanistan, stabbed tourists and passersby along the Bassin de la Villette, a popular outdoor canal area in the north-east of Paris where many people gather on warm evenings.

    While the motives for the attack remain unclear, a judicial source said it did not appear to be akin to other attacks carried out by Muslim militants in Paris in recent years.

    “Police didn’t find any initial indication the attack was linked to terrorism,” the source said. “But the anti-terrorism prosecutor’s office is following how the investigation proceeds closely.”

  143. zyconoclast

    Sydney University would limit the Ramsay Centre’s participation in a Western civilisation degree to one voice on an appointment panel.

    The university would have full control over the curriculum, sole responsibility for staffing and teaching, and require 12 years’ worth of guaranteed funding even if the centre decided to pull out after eight.

  144. Makka

    Fmd, poor kid;

    Daily Dilemma: should we raise kids as gender-neutral?

    A MUM and dad are set to both swap genders in a double transition after revealing they are raising their five-year-old son as a “person” rather than a “boy”.

    Louise and Nikki Draven, from Middlesbrough, England, say they feel “incomplete” and will undergo gender reassignment surgery to bring up their son, Star Cloud, feeling “happier”, The Sun reports.

    Biological dad Louise, who Star refers to as his mummy, is set to become a woman with her operation booked in for December.

    Birth mum Nikki, who is now called Charlie and daddy by their child, is planning a female-to-male operation before Star turns 10.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/transgender-parents-plan-to-undergo-surgery-to-swap-genders/news-story/5d81f35c8cc8ba3667ee8056409ff0f9

    How to raise a kid to become an axe murderer.

  145. 2dogs

    Erdogan doesn’t realise the shit he is in.

    Russia has a huge naval presence in the eastern Mediterranean right now.

    Putin is just waiting for Turkey to get kicked out of NATO.

    Putin, the smiling assassin, has Erdogan conned.

  146. zyconoclast

    How to raise a kid to become an axe murderer.

    Fratricide looks an fair option.
    No jury will convict.

  147. zyconoclast

    I Want My S3x Back

    Transgender people who regretted changing s3x
    After years of feeling uncomfortable with his male body, Billy finally came up with a solution: he underwent s3x reassignment surgery to become the woman he had always felt he was. However, the change didn’t bring him the relief he had sought, and neither did it solve any of his problems. After seven years of being a woman, Billy reverted back to being a man.

    Rene Jax was born and raised as a male. She used to dress as a woman before she actually took the plunge to become female. The hormone therapy and breast augmentation that followed didn’t satisfy Rene. Gender dysphoria – the condition of feeling disconnected from your s3x – persisted. Now at the age of 58, she says her gender reassignment was a mistake, merely cosmetic surgery.

    Walt Heyer felt trapped in his male body. In 1983, he finally became Laura Jensen. He believed it was a genetic disorder that had caused his gender dysphoria. However, it wasn’t until he had reverted back to his original s3x that Walt realised his issues stemmed from the trauma of s3xual abuse. He now counsels people who are considering gender reassignment. +

    I Want My S3x Back! is the personal story of three men who regretted changing genders. They recount their experiences and how they came to terms with their disappointments and regrets.

  148. Bruce in WA

    If African culture is so great, where are the great African civilisations?

    Wakanda?

  149. Bruce in WA

    Billy reverted back to being a man

    Tautology

  150. None

    So Andrew Bragg has only been with the BCA since 2017 has now been promised a senate spot in order to withdraw from Wentworth so a vagina could have a go. Thank you Liberals for insulting us women – give a homo a senate spot so a no hoper woman can lose. NSW Libs are utterly corrupt.

  151. None

    Also is the Lib’s Andrew Bragg the same Andrew Bragg who was an author at Junkee whose profile has now been deleted? So the lives have now guaranteed another looney lefty a Senate spot? What is the point of the Liberals again?

  152. zyconoclast

    A $76,000 Monthly Pension: Why States and Cities Are Short on Cash
    Governments are struggling as mounting pension obligations crowd out the rest of their budgets. Oregon faces a severe, self-inflicted crisis.

    A public university president in Oregon gives new meaning to the idea of a pensioner.

    Joseph Robertson, an eye surgeon who retired as head of the Oregon Health & Science University last fall, receives the state’s largest government pension.

    It is $76,111.

    Per month.

    That is considerably more than the average Oregon family earns in a year.

    Oregon — like many other states and cities, including New Jersey, Kentucky and Connecticut — is caught in a fiscal squeeze of its own making. Its economy is growing, but the cost of its state-run pension system is growing faster. More government workers are retiring, including more than 2,000, like Dr. Robertson, who get pensions exceeding $100,000 a year.

    The state is not the most profligate pension payer in America, but its spiraling costs are notable in part because Oregon enjoys a reputation for fiscal discipline. Its experience shows how faulty financial decisions by states can eventually swamp local communities.

    Oregon’s costs are inflated by the way in which it calculates pension benefits for public employees. Some of the pensions include income that employees earned on the side. Other retirees benefit from long-ago stock market rallies that inflated the current value of their payouts.

    For example, the pension for Mike Bellotti, the University of Oregon’s head football coach from 1995 to 2008, includes not just his salary but also money from licensing deals and endorsements that the Ducks’ athletic program generated. Mr. Bellotti’s pension is more than $46,000 a month.

    The bill is borne by taxpayers. Oregon’s Public Employees Retirement System has told cities, counties, school districts and other local entities to contribute more to keep the system afloat. They can neither negotiate nor raise local taxes fast enough to keep up. As a result, pensions are crowding out other spending. Essential services are slashed.

    “You get to the point where you can no longer do more with less — you just have to do less with less,” said Nathan Cherpeski, the manager of Klamath Falls, a city of about 21,000 in south-central Oregon.

    Klamath Falls’s most recent biennial bill from the pension system, known as PERS, was $600,000 more than the one before. PERS has warned that the bills will keep rising. Mr. Cherpeski has had to cut back on repairing streets and bridges.

    [there is more]

  153. Mark A

    Nothing to do with anything, just thought I mention this, at this hour nobody is here anyhow.

    “If you have any friends who aspire to become writers, the second greatest favour you can do them is to present them with copies of The Elements of Style. The first greatest, of course, is to shoot them while they’re still happy.” prolly D Parker but not sure, if not her than me.

  154. Roger

    If African culture is so great, where are the great African civilisations?

    Egypt.

    But I digress.

  155. Mark A

    Roger
    #2813849, posted on September 11, 2018 at 1:44 am

    If African culture is so great, where are the great African civilisations?

    The question was “Current”

  156. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The whole Arthurian/Vortigen, etc mythology has been largely debunked by the archaeological evidence.

    What appears to have happened is that the Angles simply turned up in Albion and started farming. There was no real military conflict with the Romano-British, since the Angles had no real wish to fight, and the Romano-British had no legions to fight them with. There is evidence of trading activity between the two groups.

    Indeed 2dogs, that is so. I take this view, which is now fairly widely accepted about the so-called ‘Saxon’ invasion – see Francis Pryor’s work for example, a well known archaeologist of the period (and the BC period too), and of course Stephen Oppenheimer’s genetic work and linguistic suggestions that a Germanic language had been spoken in Britain for some time. All of this adds a lot of weight to my re-interpretation of Gildas, which I am pleased to see that Dr. BG agrees with. He may surprised to find out how many quite serious scholars of the last century have been completely hookwinked by Gildas though. Time for me to speak up about Arthur, I thought.

    As for Holder, yes Bruce, that name does strike me as redolent of Arthur as does the accompanying mythology. However we should not give poor Dr. BG conniptions by making the extensions to this extent, because it is the case that many people took on such names, and more relevant, also the case that many known individuals in history (such as Frederick the Great) were claimed in some way to have mythological aspects redolent of Arthur. Conversely too other ‘names’ attached to a similar Arthurian set of mythologies may, perhaps like Holder, have been imaginative inventions too: Prester John and Thomas the Rhymer to name just two.

    These sorts of uncertainties have always kept the ‘real Arthur’ hopefuls alive and kicking, despite all other very compelling evidence of non-historicity with regard to a fifth century warlord of that name doing battle marvels. My ideas too are greatly assisted by the recent historical unpacking of the utility of an Arthur figure to the requirements of the age in which this figure is further developed (as in the Historia Brittonum for some Welsh kingdoms and Geoffrey of Monmouth’s ‘History of the Kings of Britain’ for the insecure Plantagenets). Geoffrey Ashe’s well-written and balanced work in the 1970’s, whilest still in the ‘believer’ fold, is useful regarding the Gallic figure of Riothamus and other contributors to the legends, as is Middleton and Malcor’s work on the Samartian influences via Marcus Aurelius’s soldiers into the legends of the North. Graham Anderson’s Pulitzer Prize winning work on the Arkkus kings of Mesopotamia hits the spot for me when I too take the origins of these legends back much further than anyone else but Anderson has done so far, via the Ator/Atorius connection; which I specifically do not deal with in my Quadrant article, leaving it for my book, as it is less relevant to the immediate punch I wish to give to the historicity and floruit of the British Arthur, and it is much more speculative too about the origins of father gods and their alignment with sun gods (Dr. BG might get rightfully worried here 🙂 ).

    Hey, today we went to see Hadrian’s famous mausoleum, the one he built for himself, dedicated natch to Helios, the sun god; never forget that later Constantine the Great also revered The Undefeated Sun – and Akenaten may have been influential on both. Hadrian had been to Egypt (‘lost’ Antinnous there) and this is an Egyptian monument par excellence, massive and so very interesting. We were reminded of other sites where there is overlay upon overlay of historical building; for you can catch up on the Popes here and the counter-revolution; for this building never disintegrated. Like the Pantheon it remained put to further use, in this case as a fortress, a retreat for Popes under aggressive threat, and later still a Papal hide away, so very full of rather glorious stuff. Neither of us had been before, and if you haven’t, then do go on your next trip. We are doing full on Hadrian this time; Hadrian’s villa tomorrow. Will report if and when.

  157. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Unconquered Sun, it is best known as.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Solis Invictus

  159. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They offer happy hour Prosecco here too, in your room if you wish, just as they offer breakfast in your room, at a time of your choosing, with all whistles and bells, if you wish. In both of these cases, we wish.

    In Roma, making Hadrian while the sun shines. 😀

  160. Nick

    Was travelling with aged British Leftists last week. I’m not sure what was more gobsmacking, the look on the ex-lawyers’ face when I remarked that the British actively worked to stop slavery, or my discussion with her friend, who complained about the 15th century depiction of Saints being martyred as ‘porn to be banned’.

  161. Top Ender

    A high-stakes fraud case against Geoff Clark will allege serious criminal conduct stretching back to his time as chairman of the powerful Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission, formerly the peak governing body for indigenous Australia.

    In addition to facing charges over financial anomalies associated with the government-funded Framlingham Aboriginal Trust, Mr Clark is also accused of acting as a shadow director of both the trust and an associated entity, the Kirrae Whurrong Community Incorporated, while he was ­bankrupt.

    The extensive case will examine whether Mr Clark’s sons, Jeremy and Aaron, fraudulently helped him retain control of his power base at the historic Framlingham mission outside the Victorian town of Warrnambool and whether Mr Clark, since the early 2000s, has been lining his pockets with money earmarked for the Framlingham community.

    Geoffrey Wayne Clark, his wife, Trudy Ann Clark, and their sons Jeremy Wayne Clark and Aaron Mingara Clark are due to appear at the Warrnambool Magistrates Court on October 1 to answer a summons issued by the Victoria Police fraud and extortion squad.

    They currently face 29 fraud-­related charges and are expected to face more than 80 charges once the full brief of evidence is prepared.

    Mr Clark, who was meeting yesterday with his lawyers, has described a long-running police investigation into his family as a political witch hunt. Police detectives have raided his home twice in the past year.

    Mr Clark is also fighting a move by the Victorian government to place the Framlingham Aboriginal Trust under administration.

    The trust owns and operates the 150-year-old Framling­ham Aboriginal Reserve.

    Acting on concerns raised by members of the Framlingham community, Victoria’s Aboriginal Affairs Minister Natalie Hutchins wrote to the trust management on August 24 demanding it show cause why an administrator should not be appointed.

    Mr Clark was declared bankrupt in June 2009. Under the Victorian law that established the Framlingham Aboriginal Trust, a bankrupt cannot serve on the trust’s committee of management.

    Police will allege that despite this, he continued to wield influence over Framlingham affairs through his two sons, Jeremy and Aaron.

    In a 2014 affidavit, Jeremy Clark stated that his father in 2002 transferred to him almost all his shares in Framlingham. He further stated that in 2011, he transferred the bulk of these to his brother Aaron Clark.

    Aaron Clark was a member of the trust’s committee of management when a government-commissioned audit discovered more than $670,000 in financial anomalies over a two-year period and evidence of potential fraud.

    The anomalies included $55,000 spent on home renovations at Mr Clark’s home and payments totalling $15,600 to Trudy Clark.

    Aaron Clark is the ­director of the Korin Gamadji Institute, a centre for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander youth training and education established by the Richmond Football Club.

    Control of Kirrae Whurrong Community Incorporated, an ­association first registered in 1989 to promote the economic self-sufficiency of the Framlingham community, also passed ­between Mr Clark and his son ­Jeremy.

    Mr Clark was a long-serving director of Kirrae Whurrong Community Incorporated.

    Consumer Affairs Victoria documents show that in August 2009, two months after Mr Clark was declared bankrupt, that office was assumed by Jeremy Clark. Jeremy Clark is listed as the current secretary of KWCI.

    Complete article – no comments

  162. Leigh Lowe

    The not so serene Serena.

  163. Tom

    Almost to a man, British cartoonists (like Morten Morland of The Times) think voters are stupid and are campaigning against Brexit (and Trump).

  164. Mark A

    Tom
    #2813866, posted on September 11, 2018 at 4:26 am

    Almost to a man, British cartoonists (like Morten Morland of The Times) think voters are stupid and are campaigning against Brexit (and Trump).

    That doesn’t make sense to me, what are they trying to say?
    Trump is suicide bomber?
    And what he has to do with Brexit anyway?

  165. Leigh Lowe

    Bladder failure Nick.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Bwa, ha, ha, ha.
    You didn’t build that.

  167. Tom

    Mark A, I wasn’t commenting on the Morland cartoon — just that every British cartoon I’ve seen in the past three years shitcans Brexit and Boris Johnson is the villain because he supports it. British cartoonists are the lapdogs of the ruling class.

  168. Mark A

    Tom
    #2813879, posted on September 11, 2018 at 4:45 am

    Mark A, I wasn’t commenting on the Morland cartoon

    itsok, I didn’t imply you were, just that I didn’t see the connection they made.
    On the whole I think the British cartoonist went the Leuning way.

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fun counterpoint between Serena and Kavanaugh in today’s cartoons. Thanks Tom!

  170. Gary

    6 Child Abuse Victims Who Grew to Reject the Transgender ‘Bullsh*t’

    “In the ten years or so that I’ve worked with people, 100 percent — every single last one of them — has had some kind of event — traumatic, painful, horrible, some sexual, some physical, some emotional — happen to them, sometime between the ages of 4 and 15, that caused them to not want to be who they are,” Heyer told PJ Media.

  171. Entropy

    On that Bert Reynolds cartoon driving the transom thru the pearly gates.

    I watched Smokey and the bandit the other night. Such a movie would not be made today. The machoism of the males and the up for it receptivity by very attractive women would not be acceptable in a movie today.

  172. Gary

    Entropy
    Shame Sally Field has turned into a frightbat, I really liked her.

  173. Elle

    A great bunch of toons this morning. Thanks Tom. Serena’s disgusting display highlighted well.

  174. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

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    “President Trump would need a magic wand to get to 4% GDP,” stated President Obama. I guess I have a magic wand, 4.2%, and we will do MUCH better than this! We have just begun.

  175. Eyrie

    Regarding the Holger Danske legend, this from Gates of Vienna:
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/12/twelfth-viking.html

    Poul Anderson was IMO much under rated. One of my all time favorite SF writers.
    BoN, have you read “The Merman’s Children” I quite liked that too although my tolerance for fantasy is low.
    cohenite, Heinlein’s “Glory Road” was a great romp too. I’m not sure “Three hearts and Three Lions” was his kind of style. Both books stand as excellent examples of their author’s work.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mark Knight #1.

    Oh noes. Knight has been sent to the naughty corner:

    J.K. Rowling, others blast “racist” Serena Williams newspaper cartoon (CBS News)

  177. Tel

    Bruce of Newcastle #2813896,

    From that Serena Williams article:

    Williams argued with Ramos, trying to defending herself against the referee’s calls until he deemed it “verbal abuse.” Male players who do the same thing are often excused, even celebrated on the tennis court. Williams continued to defend her actions after the match, saying at a news conference: “You definitely can’t go back in time, but I can’t sit here and say I wouldn’t call him a thief again because I thought he took a game from me.”

    It were all self defense you honour.

    Trying to defend herself against the referee? FMD. Who writes this shit?

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN, have you read “The Merman’s Children”

    Eyrie – Haven’t yet. I usually only read Anderson’s SF – I’d just finished The Stars Are Also Fire, which I’d had in a bookcase for ages before finally getting around to it now. Three Hearts and Three Lions is the dessert!

  179. Tom

    Oh noes. Knight has been sent to the naughty corner

    Everything Trump says about the leftard bias of the US TV networks is true, Bruce of Newk: the CBS News piece you linked to is a shocking piece of journalism that totally excuses Williams’ childish bully tantrum that I’m tipping 99% of foreign viewers were revolted by (while the hometown American audience was cheering for Williams).

  180. lotocoti

    Who writes this shit?

    The trailing grossest example of sports sexism yet article is little better.

  181. lotocoti

    Oh noes. Knight has been sent to the naughty corner:

    Perhaps Rowling should report him to the South Yorkshire Police.

  182. Shy Ted

    Crikey, that’s 8 hours per metre.
    $19.5k for clean up! Ah yes, council contracts don’t come cheap.

  183. Shy Ted

    ABC22 “comedy” loses one dreadful program. Replaces it with something worse – Schitt’s Creek. Thought it might be just me but IMDB viewers say – I’m not trashing this show out of hate or bias. I’m trashing this show because it is absolute garbage. And Sad to say it but this truly is one of the worst TV series of all time. Of all time. And I constantly have to keep asking myself, whats the point of this again?.
    Yet we pay. Again.

  184. C.L.

    John Bolton has threatened to arrest ‘judges’ of the phony International Criminal Court and seize their assets if they pursue phony charges against Americans or Israelis. He has also announced the Palestinian office in Washington will no longer be funded, meaning it will close.
    —–
    GOLD.

  185. Top Ender

    I’m blaming Shy Ted.

    I followed one of his links and ended up on the Guardian website.

    A quick look around ended up with this article on songs we must never hear again because they are politically incorrect.

  186. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    China: Jesus is not our friend
    BEIJING — China’s government is ratcheting up a crackdown on Christian congregations in Beijing and several provinces, destroying crosses, burning Bibles, shutting churches and ordering followers to sign papers renouncing their faith, according to pastors and a group that monitors religion in China.

  187. struth

    Good Moaning.

    Surprising, really quite surprising just how behind the eight ball are our “conservative” presenters on Sky.

    I like Rowan Dean and the outsiders, but to be cheering on the New UN controlled puppet PM, is, well, a tad FRIGGING BLIND.
    He’s hearing all the right things, which means I must FRIGGING DEAF.
    (maybe why I need to yell so much)

    So far what have we got for the leadership spill?

    A smoke screen regarding ruinables and Paris.
    Talk.
    Oh and talk of bombarding the fast disappearing Liberal base (Regional areas) with Mussies, Monty’s admitted Non-Aryans immigration policy.
    Anyone but white or western.
    The socialist’s new Jooos……..the new scapegoat race.
    Whites.
    The New scapegoat sex, of course is the one that they fear.
    The one with testosterone.

    Anyhooo, I digress.

    I think we can safely say that the cat has been correct again.
    The spineless, gutless males of the Liberal party and the dribbling, cowardly, utterly ridiculous career diversity pick females, have failed dismally yet again.

    And Rowan is impressed with what he is seeing?

    Credlin is OK but she is not as sharp as she thinks she is.
    They still believe the politicians are pandering to our own Australian greens, and not the much larger Global socialist U.N. (who don’t believe in climate change).

    And as for this rot that says we as western countries must pay one hundred million to “developing” (read corrupt socialist shitholes) so they can survive and build infrastructure to help them cope with globall varmenink, seems the infrastructure is hundreds of coal powered plants, (when the money is not mostly wasted on buying lanyards and going on holidays around the world for the selected few).

    Is it not less expensive for a country to build new infrastructure than for a country to replace what it already has, and is working fine?
    THERE IS NO MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE, and if there is the UN don’t believe it’s a problem, as it’s only interest is wealth redistribution.
    Socialist global control and wealth distribution.

    I want a statement from the self declared and active Global Socialist UN Secretary General that the Climate only reacts to emissions from the west, and the “emergency” climate situation we now find ourselves in will be reversed , once the west is tamed, regardless of the hundreds of new Chinese coal powered generation plants being built.

    What an absolute croc of shit.

    Of course socialists play the blame game.
    In their feeble minds, they believe these countries need a leg up to become huge emitters because the terrible west has been industrialised and emitting plant food, for too long, causing man made climate change, which is an emergency if the west don’t stop and allow others to emit plant food.
    And as for China that means Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugely increasing emissions.

    Apparently, they also believe that non lefties are as thick and illogical as themselves.
    This is the actual argument they put forward.
    Not just trying to be sneaky and achieve the destruction of the west, behind the scenes, but this is actually their out loud and proud argument.

    If there was any man made climate change, and it was so disastrous, who would be allowing the massive increase in emissions anywhere at all?
    The UN are supporting a massive, massive, increase in the number of coal stations world wide, yet telling the west it must get rid of theirs, because there is a climate Armageddon coming if they don’t.

    And this is what our political fuckwit class signed up to, and that is the situation our new PM, will continue to submit to.

    There is nothing optimistic here Mr Dean.

  188. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just eaten in a classic 5 star Rome restaurant with good views of the city lit up. Hovering waiters and a maitre d’ and those chairs they have at weddings, white linen with bows on them, plus full silver service. Hairy had Beef Wellington (he would), I settled for a seafood tagliatele, and we both had a truffle antipasti. Last time I had a dinner party I did tagliatele, which I purchased specially from the Iti shop, and I did it ‘al dente’ and I think people were nice about it but it was far too undercooked. Well, here in this fancy place chef did the same thing; his version of tagliatele was so al dente that I could only struggle through half of it. And the Beef Wellington came inserted into a hard circle of pastry, not cooked in it. The little touches of pre-dinner ‘samplings’ and the petie fours with Hairy’s expresso were very nice, but I think Hairy is actually missing my cooking, which in some ways is not all that bad. Quite encouraging, really.

    In other news, we have mastered the ‘cromaterapia chromatotherapy’ system on the freestanding spa bath in an alcove beside the bed in our suite; the operating on/off switch was in a hidden corner of the bathroom where other functions of ablution take place. So now at the touch pad on the spa bath I can sit in a changing kalaedoscope of neon-enhanced bubbles inviting Hairy sitting at our glass table to exercise his imagination about them. When pink neon surrounds, I suggest Marilyn Monroe simply for the fact that Andy Warhol’s Pink Marilyn is smiling down on us, for blue I suggest Botticelli’s Venus Rising as I reach for my Prosecco, for a deep red I hint at Rubens (although I hope those extra kilos don’t fire the imagination too much in that direction), for neon white it’s the innocence of Renoir, and for yellow it’s Van Gogh’s fields of sunflowers as Hairy decides to join me in a watery cavort causing an Archimedes overflow.

    I am also getting used to the circular bed. I ended up at half past two this morning, in positional terms, on my side. Arms and upper body on two, legs on the half hour. In real time it was half past ten but Hairy was occupying that spot.

  189. lotocoti

    songs we must never hear again because they are politically incorrect.

    Let’s hope they never hear Johnny Rotten’s hurtful sarcasm:
    Cathy, go home without your daughter
    In a welfare state, she’ll be well looked after
    And it’s easy now this other person
    Is off your back, not a burden …

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    John Bolton has threatened to arrest ‘judges’ of the phony International Criminal Court

    Lefty judges are being held to account for the first time in living memory. This article doesn’t seem to be widely reported, but may well be the most significant legislation put to Congress in decades:

    Lawmakers take up bill to limit nationwide injunctions against Trump administration

    The House Judiciary Committee will consider legislation this week to rein in the use of nationwide injunctions issued by federal district courts, pushing back against a practice that’s increasingly snaring the Trump administration.

    Virginia Republican Rep. Bob Goodlatte introduced the Injunctive Authority Clarification Act on Monday.

    With a nationwide injunction, a single federal district judge can issue an order halting a policy for the entire country even if the other federal judges disagree with that decision.

    The issue is a growing controversy in legal circles.

    Justice Clarence Thomas addressed it in an opinion on Mr. Trump’s travel ban, saying “universal injunctions are legally and historically dubious.”

    He suggested the Supreme Court would step in if the practice continues to grow.

    Obama appointed judges keep doing it: slapping nationwide injunctions on Trump policies, which are then overturned on appeal or by SCOTUS. Then they just edit their judgement a bit and slap another injunction on.

    The best one is Obama’s DACA executive order, which one judge has ruled is illegal and another judge has ruled must be renewed by Trump. So Trump literally can’t help breaking the “law” whatever he does.

  191. John Constantine

    Trans Pacific Partnership suggested as removing labour market shortfalls as a requirement for mass importation of workers on visas.

    Open slather for chicom cartels to bring in slaves from their hometown slaveherds.

    Paperwork for Australian payscales, money remitted straight back to chicom controlled bank account to repay the slaves debt to the slaveowner.

    Comrades.

  192. John Constantine

    “The Merger”.

    Advertising for a State funded advertorial movie, where a small community becomes woke to totalitarian Stalinist decolonisation and saves their football club by importing refugees.

    Already schemes where rural football clubs can get an edge over the other teams by using State financial grants to pay diversity footballers from well outside the district to fly in and play.

    Comrades.

  193. mh

    WATCH: Cheerleader Pummels Girl Who Challenges Her to a Fistfight

    A cheerleader in California gave a bully who challenged her to a fistfight a complete beat-down on Saturday, according to a dramatic video of the incident making the rounds on Twitter….

    I’m sure the left would like to make a race issue of this incident, but I’m not sure how. White privelege?

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/09/10/watch-cheerleader-pummels-girl-challenges-fistfight/

  194. Leigh Lowe

    Well, well, well.
    It seems two of the three Richmond FC thugs who beat the shit out of two older fans are well connected.
    Standby for concocted stories that the victims “made vile racist remarks about Abo/Moosley Richmond players and the lads nobly jumped to their defence” followed by a wet lettuce slap.
    “Respect our family privacy” says Daddy Walker QC.
    Respect starts with not beating old blokes up, dickhead.

  195. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #2813925, posted on September 11, 2018 at 8:25 am

    “The Merger”.

    Jumped in the car on Sunday and they were reviewing the movie on radio. In the two minute drive to the hardware shop I had heard enough.
    FMD.
    You only get to the state fillem funding trough if you weave in some SJW issue or other.

  196. Boambee John

    John C at 0819

    Open slather for chicom cartels to bring in slaves from their hometown slaveherds.

    Paperwork for Australian payscales, money remitted straight back to chicom controlled bank account to repay the slaves debt to the slaveowner.

    This is a smarter use of terminology than “decolonialism or “decolonisation”.

    The left are against colonialism, and favour ending it. But tge method they choose is colonisation, importing unemployable voteherds to live on welfare. Call it colonialism and demand it be stopped.

    Go full Alinsky on them, don’t let them further prostitute the language.

  197. Eyrie

    “songs we must never hear again because they are politically incorrect.”
    proving once again that the left has no sense of humour and also is too stupid to actually get the conext of the song.
    Anyway, thanks Top Ender and Grauniad. Of course I had to listen to the songs on Youtube. Hadn’t heard Mungo Jerry in a long time.
    Can’t say I have a lot of time for Paramore’s Thrash Rock though.

  198. calli

    “Respect our family privacy” says Daddy Walker QC.

    No.

    Try again.

  199. min

    I am Waiting for the “scorcher” forecast today and mulling overScomo’s interview with Alan Jones.
    Question asked repeatedly was why not scrap Paris and Scomo gave the same old same old I am focussing on getting electricity prices down and we can ignore the targets because we can meet them . I have to take in our neighbours views that is the Pacific group and their concerns all At machine gun rate.
    However what he is ignoring is the emissions of other things that are also counted , transport, agriculture, manufacturing and other.
    What has to be repeated over and over again is Finkel’s statement, under oath, that if we closed down everything it would only save . Something of a degree. But I wonder if that includes all the other things causing emissions .

  200. thefrolickingmole

    On that Bert Reynolds cartoon driving the transom thru the pearly gates.

    Ther only way they would cheer it was if Burt was driving it home through a trannys pearly gates.

  201. John Constantine

    Decolonisation works for me, as it puts the focus on the political ideology of the lefty totalitarians that want to destroy old australia because they feel it is an evil settler culture, where pale stale males don’t even buy their daughters ponies when it is PROMISED the animal will be looked after.

    Recolonisation is just the tool, and allows their left to say racist tories hate those being mass imported as cannon fodder.

    We need to mock those totalitarian scumbags that deliberately sourced their Apex Predators and imported them as agents of decolonisation, not the poor skinny bastards being used as cannon fodder by their left.

    We need to pour contempt on the politicals that take bribes from the chicoms and accept party invitations as payment in kind from the transnational looting cartels, not the herds of slaves that our politicals arrange to be imported under visas.

    Shoot the officers first, not mow down the privates.

  202. Roger

    I am focussing on getting electricity prices down and we can ignore the targets because we can meet them .

    We can only meet our targets by closing coal fired power stations (and shutting down more heavy industry).

    That means much more expensive electricity as the grid is adapted to unreliables.

    I have to take in our neighbours views that is the Pacific group and their concerns

    Why?

    Nothing we do or don’t do will impact them (except that an impoverished Australia will have less aid largesse to hand out – has that been explained to them?).

    And you are elected to govern in our national interest, not theirs.

  203. Geriatric Mayfly

    I am Waiting for the “scorcher” forecast today

    Is the Dreadful Heat ™ back already? Is this manifestation threatening a mass extinction like all the others?

  204. “Respect our family privacy” says Daddy Walker QC.

    Just had a look at the video. Pissweak. There are few things I detest more than someone who kicks another when their down and barely moving. A group of four? 20-somethings set themselves upon two guys in their 40s and 60s? Look at them fighting, BTW. They wouldn’t want to try that on with someone in their 20s or 30s. They’d be rightly caned from pillar to post.

  205. BrettW

    Hadley mentioned that Bragg who has withdrawn from Wentworth selection will be offered a winnable Federal Senate seat. I guess that means ahead of Molan.

  206. stackja

    University lecturer blames police, judges for rise in women being arrested
    Jack Houghton, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    A SYDNEY law lecturer and a feminist lawyer have blamed sexist cops and judicial officers for the rise in women being arrested for violent crimes.

    Sydney University associate professor Dr Rita Shackel and Anna Kerr, principal solicitor at the Feminist Legal Clinic, argued in a law journal article “the police and judiciary would appear to be delivering equality with a vengeance”.

    The pair said that the number of women being arrested for domestic violence offences was increasing five times faster than male figures, blaming the increase on “pervasive systemic gender bias”.

    They also argued that women should be given more lenient sentences because they suffer more behind bars and complained “sentencing guidelines do not allow for a distinction to be made between male and female offenders”.

    “There has been a significant increase in women who are themselves charged with family violence offences,” they wrote in the Australian Lawyers Alliance journal.

    “Recent years have seen a concerted effort by law enforcement agencies to attempt to equalise the numbers — arguably not by reducing male offending, but by charging and jailing more women. The increased incarceration of women for violence-related offences … points to pervasive systemic gender bias and discrimination in the criminal justice process.”

    NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics reported in March that the number of women on remand had more doubled between 2011 and 2017.

    Ms Kerr and Ms Shackel’s article said the rights and freedoms of women were “under attack” by a system which did not distinguish between male and female violence.

    “This approach fails to acknowledge the distinct characteristics of female defendants and the inherent dynamics of domestic violence — including women’s lower reoffending rates, their histories of trauma, increased suffering in custody and greater caregiving responsibilities.”

    Ms Kerr told The Daily Telegraph the police and judiciary lacked understanding of power imbalances in domestic violence cases.

    “The significant disparities in physical strength and resources between parties are not being taken into account.”

    She said there should be a presumption in favour of bail for women primary caregivers.

  207. Tel

    Respect starts with not beating old blokes up, dickhead.

    That’s a rather traditional approach, don’t hear that often anymore.

  208. C.L.

    Wow. He really raised him some quality boys, huh.

    On the other hand, well done that firecracker cheerleader.
    Gutsy, tough lass. She really beat up that slob.

  209. Roger

    The pair said that the number of women being arrested for domestic violence offences was increasing five times faster than male figures…

    Feminist SJWs demand more domestic violence intervention, surprised when more women are arrested.

    “Equality with a vengeance” they cry.

    Then demand favourable treatment for women because they are women.

    Magnitude of cognitive dissonance increasing!

  210. C.L.

    The Queensland government wants medical practitioners to see patients about “climate change.”

    Killer heatwaves and disease outbreaks are key threats to Queenslanders from climate change, according to a State Government-funded plan calling for tobacco-style taxes on carbon polluters.

    The new statewide strategy to tackle climate-driven health risks argued doctors could play a role as “highly trusted” messengers about climate impacts to the community, where politicians have failed.

    The plan, obtained by the ABC ahead of its launch today by Queensland Health Minister Steven Miles, revealed the health sector regarded a lack of political support — including mixed messages from the Government’s own pro-coal and gas development decisions — as the key barrier to adapting to climate change.

    RTWT at (of course) ABC Online.

  211. Roger

    Killer heatwaves and disease outbreaks are key threats to Queenslanders from climate change, according to a State Government-funded plan calling for tobacco-style taxes on carbon polluters.

    This would be the same government that relies on coal royalties to stay in the black.

  212. stackja

    Liberal’s Wentworth frontrunner Andrew Bragg withdraws from contest
    Sharri Markson, National Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only

    THE Liberal Party investigated and dismissed a complaint made against Andrew Bragg before he pulled out of the race to replace Malcolm Turnbull in the eastern suburbs seat of Wentworth.

    Bragg said on Monday he was withdrawing from the contest to make way for a woman to replace the former prime minister.

    The Daily Telegraph understands the Liberal Party investigated a complaint made against Mr Bragg before he pulled out of the race but concluded there was no evidence to support it.

    Mr Bragg quit the Business Council of Australia, where he was executive director of membership, to run for the blue-ribbon seat.

    But his decision to withdraw from the contest comes after pressure at senior levels of the Morrison Government to preselect a female candidate in the wake of complaints the party is not supportive of women.

    In return for stepping aside, Mr Bragg will be given a winnable spot on the NSW Senate ticket.

    The former interim federal director of the Liberal Party was made aware of research suggesting a female would have a better chance of winning Wentworth than a man — and the seat is crucial for Scott Morrison to maintain his one seat majority.

    Liberals are concerned at the likely prospect that high-profile, Jooish medico, Professor Kerryn Phelps will stand in Wentworth as an independent, securing preferences from Labor and the Greens.

    Three women are hoping to win Liberal candidacy in Wentworth — Woollahra councillor Mary-Lou Jarvis, Sydney East Business Chamber chair Katherine O’Regan and rheumatologist Maxine Szramka.

    “I’m withdrawing so a woman can be preselected to replace Malcolm Turnbull and I’ll be focusing my future efforts on the senate,” Mr Bragg said.

    The Daily Telegraph understands the Liberal Party investigated allegations made against Mr Bragg during the nomination process but concluded there was no evidence to support them.

    He successfully passed the Nomination Review Committee candidate selection process on Friday.

    Mr Bragg said the smears and rumours circulated by his opponents were completely false.

    “There has never been a complaint made against me,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

    In a statement, he said Victorian MP Julia Banks’ claims of bullying and intimidation in the lead up to Mr Turnbull’s ousting had “genuinely shocked” him.

    “I believe the Liberal Party should preselect a woman and my withdrawal can pave the way,” he wrote.

    “I believe these recent events and comments have changed the mood and accordingly I will withdraw my nomination.|

    “I am also a father and a husband who wants to see professional women make it into the highest offices in the land as representatives of the Liberal Party.”

  213. C.L.

    You’ve only got to see the hopelessly drunk young women in public, film depictions of women beating up tough guys, overweight lesbians running around playing ‘football’ and recruitment ads for the ADF (wherein women are imagined as Born To Kill warriors) and swaggering midget ladies in police uniforms to understand how a generation of females has become daffy, entitled-to-violence thugs.

  214. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Serena Williams: Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight under fire

    By Tom Crystal
    2 minutes ago September 11, 2018
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    A cartoon by the Herald Sun’s Mark Knight depicting Serena Williams’s US Open meltdown has sparked outrage, amid claims it’s racist and sexist.

    Knight was forced to defend his portrayal of Williams, which shows her jumping up and down on a tennis racquet, with a baby’s dummy nearby.

    It followed the 23-time grand slam champion’s controversial, ill-tempered defeat in Sunday’s final.

    The cartoon drew condemnation from Twitter users ranging from Harry Potter author JK Rowling, Australian NBA star Ben Simmons and Yassmin Abdel-Magied.

    Knight was accused of rehashing racist stereotypes of the infamous Jim Crow caricatures of the early 20th century.

    From the Oz. Seems to have offended the usual suspects.

  215. C.L.

    This would be the same government that relies on coal royalties to stay in the black.

    Yes, the same one that finances hospitals with cigarette, alcohol and gambling taxes.

  216. stackja

    Interest rate hikes will put more than one million Aussies in mortgage stress by Christmas
    Edward Boyd, The Daily Telegraph
    2 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    MORE than one million Australian households will be in mortgage stress by Christmas as they struggle with banks hiking interest rates, rising living costs and low wage growth.

    The number of households in stress — defined as when net income does not cover ongoing costs — is currently sitting at 996,000, or roughly 30.5 per cent of all owner-occupied houses in Australia.

    And the principal of research group Digital Finance Analytics (DFA) Martin North is predicting mortgage stress rates will continue to rise this year, and may even increase at a faster rate once three of the Big Four banks increase their mortgage rates later this month.

    Data from DFA has found eight out of the top 10 postcodes in NSW suffering from mortgage stress are in Sydney, with Campbelltown leading the way with 7234 households (66.3 per cent) with home loans under stress.

    Mr North said continual rising living costs — including child care, school fees and fuel — were all adding pressure to homeowners in the “mortgage belt” located in the outer suburbs of Sydney. “There has been quite a spike in mortgage stress in NSW,” Mr North said.

    Stanhope Gardens is the most stressed suburb in NSW, with 71.4 per cent of its 5324 households with home loans under duress. Campbelltown is a close second and Dean Park is third with 64.9 per cent of mortgage holders under stress.

  217. thefrolickingmole

    Pinochet was a 1/2 hearted wuss.

    He missed quite a few helicopter parents.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/10/un-human-rights-chief-sends-team-to-italy-after-alarming-anti-migrant-violence

    Bachelet, who is the daughter of a general who opposed Augusto Pinochet’s overthrow of Chilean president Salvador Allende in 1973, and assumed office on 1 September

  218. H B Bear

    In return for stepping aside, Mr Bragg will be given a winnable spot on the NSW Senate ticket.

    The Australian Senate. Dumping ground for hacks, timeservers and the unelectable since Federation.

  219. stackja

    Herald Sun backs Mark Knight’s cartoon on Serena Williams
    Staff writer, Herald Sun
    21 minutes ago

    THE Herald Sun has backed Mark Knight’s cartoon showing Serena Williams throwing a tantrum during the final of the US Open.

    In response to criticism from US media and on social media channels, Herald Sun editor Damon Johnston said: “A champion tennis player had a mega tantrum on the world stage, and Mark’s cartoon depicted that.

    “It had nothing to do with gender or race.”

    Knight said he was “amazed” at the reaction to his cartoon, depicting Serena spitting the dummy and stamping on her tennis racquet as the chair umpire telling US Open champion Naomi Osaka in the background: “Can you just let her win.”

    “I drew this cartoon Sunday night after seeing the US Open final, and seeing the world’s best tennis player have a tantrum and thought that was interesting,” he said.

    “It’s been picked up by social media in the US and my phone has just melted down.

    “The world has just gone crazy.”

    Knight said he had been unfairly criticised on social media channels.

    “I tried to reply to these people but they just don’t listen,” he said.

    “On any given day you are a hero and on any given day you are a pariah.

    “And you just have to live with it.”

  220. Roger

    This would be the same government that relies on coal royalties to stay in the black.

    Yes, the same one that finances hospitals with cigarette, alcohol and gambling taxes.

    No wonder Prog Leftists often appear slightly crazy.

    The stress from managing the cognitive dissonance must out.

  221. Roger

    “The world has just gone crazy.”

    Oh, it’s been crazy for a while, Mark.

  222. thefrollickingmole

    No wonder Prog Leftists often appear slightly crazy.
    The stress from managing the cognitive dissonance must out.

    I think you will find applying a large enough poultice of other peoples money takes a lot of their stress away.
    Anti smoking zeallots have this down to a fine art, provide cover for a tax increase then the government funnels a near endless stream of OPM into your accounts.

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