Open Forum: September 15, 2018

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  1. Mullumhillbilly

    “Water For Every Farm – The Keyline Plan”, by P A Yoemans.

    Another great and practical idea ruined by green bureaucracy.
    Capturing any more than 10% of runoff means paying a licence fee because the Government owns the rain.

    https://www.industry.nsw.gov.au/water/licensing-trade/landholder-rights/harvestable-rights-dams

  2. zyconoclast

    U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos signed on to a radical global “declaration” that calls for, among other absurdities, brainwashing children to believe in the United Nations-backed ideology of total government known as “ ‘sustainable development.” In fact, the pseudo-treaty inked by Trump’s education chief suggests that the purpose of schooling is to indoctrinate children with the right “values” and teach them to be obedient worker drones.

    Trump should fire DeVos — and not just for participating in this dangerous effort to further globalize education and standardize the indoctrination of children worldwide. But rather than replacing her, Trump should work with Congress to shut down the entire unconstitutional department and get the feds completely out of education. The alternative is the continued subversion of education in America — and ultimately, the death of freedom.

  3. zyconoclast

    Israel Is Giving China the Keys to Its Largest Port – and the U.S. Navy May Abandon Israel

    China will operate Haifa port, near Israel’s alleged nuclear-armed submarines, and it seems no one in Israel thought about the strategic ramifications

  4. . . . and it seems no one in Israel thought about the strategic ramifications

    You reckon?

  5. zyconoclast

    Why do female teachers usually avoid jail?

    A decade after becoming a Russian Orthodox priest, Stanislav Vakhabov invited a 14-year-old boy from overseas to stay in his Sydney church flat, where he would be locked away and repeatedly s3xually molested.

    The 36-year-old, also known as Father Christopher, was on Friday jailed for at least five years and seven months for the crimes he committed within his home attached to the back of the Croydon parish.

  6. Tom

    Caan’t believe I’m saying this: watching a great doco on Trump’s election on SBS. It isn’t hatchet job. Written and narrated by an American journo I’ve never heard of.

  7. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #2818058, posted on September 16, 2018 at 11:48 pm

    . . . and it seems no one in Israel thought about the strategic ramifications

    You reckon?

    Precisely, you can blame them for a lot of things but failing to look at the ramifications in the far far future is not one of them.

  8. Didn’t the people already vote to leave the EU?

    Yes, but like the people in WA and QLD on daylight saving, they voted the “wrong” way.
    So, like the people in WA and QLD, they will just go on being given the “opportunity” to change their mind, until they do.

  9. zyconoclast

    Do Germans still belong to Germany in the near future?

    The speed with which the German population is shrinking seems to be even too much for the statisticians of Destatis, the official German bureau of statistics, who posit that by 2060, with a zero level of net immigration, the German population will have declined to 60,2 million. However, our research team has found out that this number is far too optimistic: in 40 years Germany will have a population of 52,6 million people, a considerable 34% drop from the current 81 million inhabitants, and by the end of the century the native German population, the indigenous people without a migration background, will have shrunk even further and be approaching 21,6 million. The explanation that Destatis has mailed us is tantamount to admitting that their projections are unrealistic.

  10. zyconoclast

    The incredibly shrinking Italian population: By 2080, Italians will be a minority in their own country

    Though the official data shows that Italy’s population was growing until 2015 and according to a Eurostat projection it will stabilize within the next decades, the number of indigenous citizens is shrinking with an astonishing pace: every year by a quarter of a million, and this decline will accelerate. That means that the projected demographic growth can only be achieved by mass migration from Africa and Central Asia. Currently most migrants in Italy are from Romania but that number is declining rapidly. There will be less and less migration from other European countries because all European nations are in a dramatic demographic decline and because due to the prolonged Italian economic crisis the country is not a prime destination for people from other European states.

    If the official Eurostat forecast is correct, then within 60 years or, taking into consideration the current pace of migration even sooner, 50% of Italy’s inhabitants will be of African or Asian descent. The figures found by our demographic-research team are by far not unique and government statisticians have the same numbers. Not only are the Italian and European authorities fully aware of this, but they seem to be executing a re-population program on such a monumental scale that will dwarf the Swedish mass migration experiment.

    The Italian fertility rate (of indigenous and naturalized female citizens), i.e. the number of children per woman, is 1.34, which is far below the replacement level of 2.1. Much the same is true of the whole European continent. In this respect Europe resembles Japan. The difference is that while the Japanese authorities expect the country’s population to decline by a stunning 60% by the end of this century, the European governments predict a population growth. Why is that so? The answer is simple. The European leaders have opted for replenishing their nations with migrants whereas their Japanese counterparts have not. The Tokyo authorities refuse to replace their people with aliens, knowing full well that in the long run such a step would mean that Japan will only continue to exist in name.

  11. JC

    The Great Artesian basin.

    The GAD seems to have only a tiny amount of water. 🙂

    It also seems to replenish from NG/

    The Great Artesian Basin in Australia covers 23% of the continent and contains 64,900 cubic kilometres of water.

    Many years ago it was claimed on a TV science show I saw that some of the water in the basin comes from Papua New Guinea (PNG) via an underground conduit.

    How much is 65,000 cubic m of water? A real fucking lot.

    How many cubic liters is this?

    65,000 cubic kms is 65,000,000,000,000,000

    0r 6.5 to the power of 16.

    How many liters of water required to produce a kilo of say wheat.

    It takes about 1500 litres of water to produce 1 kilogram of wheat,

    Assuming total depletion of the basin spread over with a few more assumptions. You would hypothetically produce 4.3 to the power of 10 or 43,000,000,000 billion tons of wheat assuming no replenishment.

    Production of the major winter grains in 2011 is estimated at over 27 million tonnes for wheat,

    That means there’s roughly 1590 years of water supply in the basin at current growing rate.

    This isn’t of course suggesting it’s possible to achieve, but it offers a sense of the amount of water in the fucker without replenishment and it does.

    I think I got all the zeros right.

  12. JC

    Tom
    #2818062, posted on September 16, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    Caan’t believe I’m saying this: watching a great doco on Trump’s election on SBS. It isn’t hatchet job. Written and narrated by an American journo I’ve never heard of.

    Whomever put it on the program list will be fired in the morning.

  13. .

    Is it runoff if it is pushed into the ground? Don’t green bureaucrats say you should have contour lines anyway?

    Also, what about the rate of runoff flow?

  14. Mullumhillbilly

    I think I got all the zeros right

    Probably. Now just take 2 or 3 zeroes off, and figure out what to do with that tonnage of salt.

  15. JC

    Probably. Now just take 2 or 3 zeroes off, and figure out what to do with that tonnage of salt.

    It’s fresh water, you nimbus.

  16. JC

    The GAB is a fresh water underground lake.

  17. Mullumhillbilly

    Is it runoff if it is pushed into the ground?

    It’s based on a model runoff equation.
    If you have a certain veg/land type in a certain climate, your runoff is already assumed for you.
    Isn’t that nice and helpful?

  18. Mullumhillbilly

    The GAB is fresh water ?
    Wow that’s news !

  19. .

    That means there’s roughly 1590 years of water supply in the basin at current growing rate.

    What’s the recharge time function? They’ve dated how old the water can be; this does not actually show what the recharge time is.

  20. Mullumhillbilly

    The GAB is fresh water ?
    Wow that’s news !
    Better tell these guys.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002216949190158E

  21. JC

    Dot

    I dunno. I just worked out roughly the amount of water held in the fucker and then put it into some sort of perspective – in terms of what it would like if used in production. I used wheat as just one example. The point is there’s a decent amount of fresh water down under. Its obviously not all accessible, but a good amount of it is.

    I dunno how these things work, It wouldn’t likely all be one huge lake and the water would be held in large dungeons (is that what you call it) and move around in all sorts of ways… narrow streams, wide ones, fast moving and slow etc.

    It may appear you would be running out of water in a area but the total quantity held is fucking huge. So, if people overuse in one spot, it means fuck all to the total quantity. It would also likely be replenished too, although that’s not always a given.

    Property rights from the heaven to the core would sort that out.

  22. Dot, on land that has been properly keylined, there is no runoff under normal circumstances.
    I have seen land up north of Geraldton producing quite acceptable yields of wheat after three years of little rain. After the third year the water supply became depleted the crops deteriorated.

    But as somebody correctly pointed out out upthread, in broad acre farming, there is no such thing as “droughtproofing”.

  23. JC

    Mullumhillbilly
    #2818077, posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:25 am

    The GAB is fresh water ?
    Wow that’s news !
    Better tell these guys.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002216949190158E

    Is this wrong?

    What is found in the Great Artesian Basin?
    The Great Artesian Basin is one of the largest underground fresh-water reservoirs in the world. It underlies approximately 22% of Australia – occupying an area of over 1.7 million square kilometres beneath the arid and semi-arid parts of Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia and the Northern Territory.

  24. JC

    Libs ,Amanda Stoker is quite the little looker for a pol.

    Give her the foreign ministry, The other FM would love us for it, I reckon.

  25. Mullumhillbilly

    ‘Fresh’ as in ‘not marine’
    Seawater has about 3.5% salt.
    GAB water is 0.2 to 0.5%.
    You’ll need it under 0.1% for irrigation unless you pour enough on to wash it right through the soil profile.
    Won’t be possible on clay soils.

  26. JC

    This is what you link says from the extract Billy.

    Ground waters from the confined Lower Cretaceous-Jurassic aquifer of the Great Artesian Basin, Australia (GAB) are characterised by NaHCO3 type waters throughout the eastern and central parts of the basin and NaSO4Cl type waters in the western part. Sodium and bicarbonate increase in concentration from the northeastern margins to the southwestern discharge areas along the regional groundwater flowlines.

    It doesn’t appear the entire thing is salt contaminated.

    Here’s the point, the bureaucracy in this country is tends towards misanthropic. They hate not having control. They hate the idea someone could make a bob or two and they veer towards virulent green left. Exploiting this reservoir for any sort of production to this scum would be like showing a sliver cross to a vampire. That’s my big concern.

  27. Mark A

    JC
    #2818079, posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:29 am

    It would also likely be replenished too, although that’s not always a given.

    In some parts of Q it is being done by letting flood and surplus surface waters go down in open wells specially bored and left open for the purpose.

    The natural replenishment is slow as can be expected. It has to percolate down through many strata. There also could be some direct access through caves and such, but we don’t know of any.

    The water is usually, but not always, contained in porous rock and cracks in the rocks. Many large underground lakes exist.

  28. JC

    ‘Fresh’ as in ‘not marine’
    Seawater has about 3.5% salt.
    GAB water is 0.2 to 0.5%.
    You’ll need it under 0.1% for irrigation unless you pour enough on to wash it right through the soil profile.
    Won’t be possible on clay soils.

    Okay , so how is it possible to exploit the shit out of it. Also, if energy was cheap, you could reduce the content down to that acceptable level through small scale desal… possibly.

    You could charge for the for the salt content through a metered system, collect it and then dump the shit out in the ocean…

  29. JC

    Mark A

    In your opinion is this, what looks like a uniquely magnificent resource being exploited to the full, or do you think it’s been left alone… because well we need to be environmentally conscious?

    My opinion is that we’re being fucked over.. or at least the farmers are.

  30. Tom

    If you have an SBSOnDemand account, you can watch the Trump election doco I described earlier: https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/860268611749/Trumps-Road-To-The-White-House. It ends with the November 8 2016 election and doesn’t cover any of the destabilisation of the Trump administration since then. I also plan to watch another doco on the New York Times in the Trump era: https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1250516035561/Fourth-Estate-The-NY-Times-and-Trump. I watched a few minutes of it before the other Trump doco; it appears to be fully Trump-deranged and wilfully clueless about why the NYT has lost the plot.

  31. JC

    Here’s where I’m coming from.

    Southern California is simply a fucking desert. When California was sane and they wanted to exploit their natural resources, they created canals sending water from the plentiful Sierra Nevada mountains to the South. This created a fabulous fruit growing area. Sure, there are problems now, but the farmers are beginning to use the water in more efficient ways, such as drip methods for the fruit trees etc.

  32. Mullumhillbilly

    It doesn’t appear the entire thing is salt contaminated.

    Roughly speaking, it gets more salty the further south you go.

    To exploit it fully will need cheap electricity to desalinate and distribute, and a way to collect centralise and transport megatonnes of salt for hundreds of kilometres.

    Not physically impossible, but not within the realms of neartime reality.
    There are cheaper ways and places to grow extra wheat if we need it in the foreseeable future.

  33. JC

    I also plan to watch another doco on the New York Times in the Trump era: https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1250516035561/Fourth-Estate-The-NY-Times-and-Trump. I watched a few minutes of it before the other Trump doco; it appears to be fully Trump-deranged and wilfully clueless about why the NYT has lost the plot.

    What’s the point of watching anything those scumbags have to say. You only get aggravated and angrier.

  34. Mark A

    Mark A

    In your opinion is this, what looks like a uniquely magnificent resource being exploited to the full, or do you think it’s been left alone… because well we need to be environmentally conscious?

    A large part of this water is while ‘hard’ is quite usable for irrigation.
    Preferably not flood irrigation as that wastes a lot of it. The Israelis have a handle on this.

    If cheap energy were available I’d have no hesitation in using it.

    You have to remember, some of it gushes out on it’s own as hot spring and only lately that farmers had been required to cap the springs and put taps on. This water once cooled is usable for stock no problem.

    But most of it would have to be pumped up, an extra cost.

    ———————————

    My opinion is that we’re being fucked over.. or at least the farmers are.

    No doubt about that at all.

  35. Mullumhillbilly

    Sierra Nevada snow melt has no salt.

  36. Tom

    JC, it’s research. I plan to write about the news media’s abandonment of professional ethics later this year.

  37. JC

    Billy

    I’m not suggesting it for wheat necessarily. It could be for other stuff, fruit trees etc. Perhaps any higher valued products?

    Dunno.

    But what I do know is that expensive energy is destroying this country when it should be an energy powerhouse. The point i, cheap energy is the foundation of industry and commercial creativity, which essentially converts energy into value added endeavors up the food chain.

  38. JC

    Mullumhillbilly
    #2818096, posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:56 am

    Sierra Nevada snow melt has no salt.

    I know. It was an example in how you exploit resources.

  39. Mark A

    PS
    I dfon’t see salt as a problem at all.
    “GAB water is 0.2 to 0.5%.”

    At that salt content work out for long you would have to desalinate to collect a sizable amount

    That amount of salt is easily disposed of in shallow holes on arid land.

  40. JC

    That amount of salt is easily disposed of in shallow holes on arid land.

    Or dumped in the ocean.

  41. Mark A

    JC
    #2818101, posted on September 17, 2018 at 1:01 am

    That amount of salt is easily disposed of in shallow holes on arid land.

    Or dumped in the ocean.

    Easy, but industry could use it too for chemicals.
    Also we actually have an industry now that produces salt!
    I think it’s in SA or WA they pump sea water into shallow ponds and let the water evaporate then collect the salt, refine it and pack it for domestic use.

  42. .

    Treat the salt like any industrial product. There would be a bulk buyer. Name your price, and/or have subsidised collection.

  43. JC

    I read she’s awful to work with on set. She’s also an imbecile who isn’t great looking at all. I’ve always hated her acting abilities.

    WASHINGTON – Actress Anne Hathaway told an audience Saturday night that she’s been frightened by the hatred of LGBT people that bigots spew — but a speech by former vice president Joe Biden went a long way to restoring her faith.

    “I really needed this,” Hathaway said as she accepted the National Equality Award at the Human Rights Campaign’s National Dinner.

    “I think I’m probably walking around like most people right now. I’m pretty shell shocked by what I see every day, what I hear everyday. And I really don’t like to admit this, but I get scared.”

    Hathaway said she felt better after hearing speeches from Biden and HRC’s President Chad Griffin, who spoke earlier in the evening.

    “You guys just gave me my heart back,” Hathaway gushed.

    And if Howard Stern hates her, so do I.

    Stern then asked if Franco knew why so many people, both in and out of Hollywood, hated Hathaway.

    “I’m happy to revisit this, but you’re going to have to take the lead,” Franco said. “If you’re going to talk about it, you’re going to have to give your opinions … She does not want me talking about this, but okay.”

    “Everyone sort of hates Anne Hathaway, and I’ve explained that I do too, and I don’t even know why sometimes,” Stern said. “She just so affected and actress-y that even when she wins an award she’s out of breath and then she has the standard joke that sounds like it’s been written for her. And it all seems so scripted and acted.”

    “She comes off like the goody two-shoes actress and it’s just fun to sort of hate her. Hate is a strong word, but I dislike her, even though she is a great actress. Is that accurate?” Stern asked.

    “I’m not an expert on – I guess they’re called ‘Hatha-haters’ – but I think that’s what maybe triggers it,” Franco said.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-denounces-white-privilege-in-award-speech/

  44. Mullumhillbilly

    Mark A, you’re underestimating the amount of salt.
    Take a few zeroes off JCs numbers and work out how many shallow holes and how much land.
    JC, other crops, trees etc, will be generally less salt tolerant and need more water, year round water if perennials. I agree we could do lots with cheap energy and water. Nanobots sending desal water inland from the sea could transform the continent.
    Dot, the market for industrial salt would very quickly be saturated with the volumes produced. And you’d have to put industry on the spot, else still transport low value bulk corrosive materials for long distances. Not physically impossible, but not ready to happen in the forseeable future.

  45. JC

    She really is hated.

    Why is Anne Hathaway so unlikable? Oscar-winning actress doesn’t get love from ‘Hathahaters’

    It came true! The fact that Anne Hathaway managed to become more unlikable, annoying and cloying by winning an Oscar, that is.

    Hathaway is definitely having a moment — just not the kind she wants.

    Observe the preening and posing with her Oscar statuette — and may we add, it was for Best Supporting Actress, Anne. She shoved it toward the cameras, she kissed it, she made the dreaded raise-the-roof motion when she should have been persuaded to let go of it.

    Soon after, everywhere from the city streets to the blogosphere lit up with anti-Hathaway sentiment. Meet the “Hathahaters,” the legion of Americans who aren’t fooled by her luminous skin, sweet pixie cut and perfect teeth.

  46. Mullumhillbilly

    Of course all that salt could come in handy when the Ultimo studios are finally Rabzed.

  47. Mark A

    Mullumhillbilly
    #2818109, posted on September 17, 2018 at 1:17 am

    Mark A, you’re underestimating the amount of salt.

    I do not, it’s easily calculated.

    I have the feeling, that for some reason you have a problem with salt, that nobody else can see.
    If we have to use an ancient method to produce it and also mine it in other parts of the world, then I see no problem in putting it to use or worse case, disposing it humanely.

    It’s all academic anyway, until our Chinese overlords take over, it will never happen, after that they don’t give a crap.

  48. Mark A

    Since we’ve been all agricultural last night, here is some serious ploughing exhibition.

  49. None

    Soap disposal from desal plants is a major issue around the world. Some of the older desal plants just have mountains of salt they can’t do anything with –
    totally poisonous for the environment in that form. Stupid f****** Greens can’t build a bloody Dam. cheaper cleaner

  50. Mark A

    None
    #2818118, posted on September 17, 2018 at 4:28 am

    Soap disposal from desal plants is a major issue around the world. Some of the older desal plants just have mountains of salt they can’t do anything with –
    totally poisonous for the environment in that form. Stupid f****** Greens can’t build a bloody Dam. cheaper cleaner

    Where did you read that?

    Desal plants don’t remove the salt completely from the water, the remove some and retreat the partially cleaned water again but always return the sludge to the sea only slightly enriched by salt.

    This is puzzling. Would be good if you had a link, must be something I didn’t know, not the first time.

  51. Mark A

    But you are right dams are far more useful and cheaper.

  52. Tom

    Today’s Johannes Leak goes with Paywallian item on Mark Knight’s Serena Williams’ dummy spit cartoon heading for leftoid activist sewer the Australian Press Council (no link because the Paywallian website is too retarded).

  53. Tom

    Ben Garrison’s latest ‘toon relates to the November Massachusetts Senate race.

  54. I am bespoke

    Tom
    #2818097, posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:58 am
    JC, it’s research. I plan to write about the news media’s abandonment of media later this year.

    So your going to watch the news or red the paper?

    All media was started because of an agenda the elusion of ethics is a media construct.

  55. Entropy

    You *could* mine the GAB, but why would you? At present pressure is sufficient for bores to be artesian across the outback. Using the GSB would reduce pressure until it became subartesian. Then large scale livestock operators would have to spend vast sums on pumps and other water infrastructure.

    And it isn’t like mining an oil lens. That oil is only useful if it is used. And the GAB is not really a lens either. Sure the water can have many uses, and over the long run is replenished. While you might think that is a reason to use it for irrigation, in fact it doesn’t replenish fast enough. It is moving though rock after all. All that would happen is in about ten to twenty years the irrigation industry reliant on it would collapse as extraction got more and more expensive.

    If you really wanted to get serious about irrigation, you would do it on the east coast, the Burdekin and both eastern and western catchments of the Cape. And do it smarter, mininmise runoff so it doesn’t hurt the reef. Although it gets greenies panties all bunched off if you catch al, water on the place, even though they complain about sediment on the reef. It’s all very doable. And you do it with dams. Much cheaper, closer to export points, and still thousands and thousands of hectares to irrigated on.

  56. Snoopy

    In an interview, her husband, Russell Ford, said that in the 2012 (couples therapy) sessions, she recounted being trapped in a room with two drunken boys, one of whom pinned her to a bed, molested her and prevented her from screaming. He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

    Because when you’re recalling an attempted rape that occurred thirty years ago, one of the things that most exercises your mind is your attacker’s future career prospects.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    WaPo of course.

    what a load of BS. some drunk kids messing around and nothing really happened.

  58. Snoopy

    Californian psychology professor. And registered Democrat.

  59. OldOzzie

    Tom

    Thanks A.F.Branco nails it today as a comment on Facebook, Twitter, Apple and Google

  60. LNP insider

    JC

    #2818082, posted on September 17, 2018 at 12:35 am

    Libs ,Amanda Stoker is quite the little looker for a pol.

    Give her the foreign ministry, The other FM would love us for it, I reckon

    According the The Australian Senator Stoker called out O’Dwyer Bishop and co as well about their bullying claims. Telling them to lodge complaints to the whip’s office instead of the media.

  61. feelthebern

    Apologies if already posted.

    The Vatican and China are set to sign a landmark agreement this month intended to bring together China’s state-backed and unauthorized Catholic communities, according to two people familiar with the matter.
    It would mean the first official recognition by China’s government of the pope as the head of the Catholic Church in China. In return, Pope Francis would formally recognize seven excommunicated Chinese bishops who were appointed by the Communist government without Vatican approval.

    Cranky Franky will do deals with anyone to keep himself in the big chair.

  62. Nick

    Mark Knight’s reposte is perfect. Tim Blair will be happy, Green looks like an idiot.

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    Obama repeatedly stutters, talks about himself 79 times while campaigning for candidates

    That teleprompter needs regular servicing. Looks like one of the lackeys has lost the instruction manual, or at least the page at the back that deals with Trouble Shooting.

  64. Nob

    I’ve worked on drilling wells for salt, in Netherlands but I guess they do it elsewhere.
    https://www.esco-salt.com/en/company/locations/frisia-zout-bv/

    It can actually pay better than oil wells.

    Reason being that salt wasted out from underground deposits can be a lot purer than mined salt.

    I mean, salt is salt, NaCl, pink salt, Himalayan salt, Mallee salt from the Little Desert – NaCl.

    But you get all sorts of dirt in the mined stuff and it takes a while to clean.

    The drilled stuff, washed out with fresh water and retrieved , can be sold at a big premium to chemical companies.

  65. Nob

    “washed out” not wasted out.

  66. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Katie Hopkins files for IVA amid crippling debts 18 months after losing libel case against Jack Monroe
    EXCLUSIVE: The racist commentator was left with a six-figure court bill after losing a libel case to the writer Jack Monroe

  67. Elle

    Thanks Tom. Mark Knight – very good. 🙂

  68. Nob

    Here’s the point, the bureaucracy in this country is tends towards misanthropic. They hate not having control. They hate the idea someone could make a bob or two and they veer towards virulent green left.

    That’s the thing alright.

    It’s a problem everywhere but it’s insanely out of order in Australia.

    Elsewhere they kind of subconsciously know that enterprise makes the money that pays their wages. In Australia they’re just completely disconnected from that reality.

  69. Farmer Gez

    ABC news working the edges to try and make Kavanaugh look guilty.
    No word of the “therapy” session or any other details of the complainant that may balance the account.
    They are as ever, vile.

  70. Tel

    Californian psychology professor. And registered Democrat.

    Whole story sounds like BS to me. Some vague memory from a party where no doubt she was drinking too and it’s so long ago she couldn’t even be sure who was there that day. Not even remotely close to a legal standard of proof. The FBI shook their heads and laughed. That’s how stupid this thing has become: the weakest of weak allegations (he looked at me wrong!) from so far back that no one has the slightest idea how to prove or disprove. Suddenly everyone is pretending to be highly concerned… when really they just hate the US Constitution and don’t want a judge willing to defend it.

    Remember all that stuff with Roy Moore? After the election it all just melted away, but the smear tactics are what these guys are known for. Did the job of spooking the voters, now they have a sniff of success they will be trying the same thing over and over.

  71. Geriatric Mayfly

    No word of the “therapy” session or any other details of the complainant that may balance the account.

    Not one of those ‘recovered memory’ workouts by any chance? Strapped to a chair by a bunch of Lezzos, in full glare of the spotlight, until you get it into your head what abominations MEN have inflicted on you, all of it hiding somewhere in your lost memory.

  72. Top Ender

    Morrison is on Paul Murray Live tonight. Filming from inside Parliament House.

    Given Murray hates wind farms and is anti-immigration it should be interesting.

  73. Anthony

    Let me get this clear. A student got pissed 35 years ago and had a bit of a grope with a boy from a private college. Student goes on to become a psych professor and registered Demorat and left-wing activist. Said student goes on to consult an ambulance chaser with the hope of scoring a few bucks because, as a psych prof who carries that nonsense with her for 35 years, she doesn’t have much of a future as a psych prof. What a fucking joke these people are.
    Or, am I missing something very important here?

  74. Tel

    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/14/skripal-poisoning-suspects-passport-data-shows-link-security-services/

    Some random British bloggers have back-door access to government files in Moscow, including “Top Secret” material, because of “Sources” you know, and therefore they can definitively conclude who is and who is not a Russian spy.

    Yeah… that’s astoundingly plausible. I’m fooled by it. Others probably will be too.

  75. Nick

    Strangely, it’s the SMH out fear of being litigated, who presents some balance in the murky case involving a Souths player and sexting:

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/souths-player-at-centre-of-sexting-scandal-unlikely-to-be-stood-down-20180916-p50448.html

  76. Snoopy

    He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

    While every other leftist in the US was predicting permanent Democratic control of the Federal government.

  77. mh

    A white Hollywood actress who has married a Je*ish man means we must listen to her wisdom:

    Actress Anne Hathaway Calls for Destruction of the ‘Myth’ of ‘whiteness’

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-calls-for-destruction-of-the-myth-of-whiteness/

  78. This facebook banning is interesting.
    A company that I work for has had facebook (and others) blocked by company name servers and routers from way back when facebook first appeared.

    What we need is for google to block facebook and facebook to block google. That would solve most of the issues.

  79. H B Bear

    FMD this sort of BS belongs in Summer Heights High. The Performing Stick Insect confirms she is a complete lightweight. Gichuhi is the Lieborals Heritier Lumumba. The sooner she is turfed the better.

    H/t Blot

  80. C.L.

    In an interview, her husband, Russell Ford, said that in the 2012 (couples therapy) sessions, she recounted being trapped in a room with two drunken boys, one of whom pinned her to a bed, molested her and prevented her from screaming. He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

    Ahahahahahahahaha.

  81. P

    Senate Judiciary Committee vote on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination will take place next Thursday as scheduled, despite last-minute accusation by left-wing activist
    https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1041427943719948289
    h/t Sundance

  82. candy

    The sooner she is turfed the better.

    The Liberals can never turf a female. The ladies know they have it made in a secure extremely well paying job for as long as they like. Much like the Labor lassies. Ability and skills optional.

  83. P

    @ 9:01

    The info with the link no longer appears on WiredSources Twitter, or Sundance post.

  84. Infidel Tiger

    If the GOP fail to confirm Kavanaugh they are going to be slaughtered.

    I see that sawn off left wing turd Ben Shapiro is troubled by the allegations. And NeverTrump lunatic Jeff Flake is going full retard already.

  85. P

    JUST IN: Senate Judiciary Committee vote on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination will take place next Thursday as scheduled, despite last-minute accusation by left-wing activist
    — Wired Sources (@WiredSources) September 16, 2018.

    The link above to twitter was there when at 9:01am when I posted it. Now disappeared.

  86. Oh come on

    I see that sawn off left wing turd Ben Shapiro is troubled by the allegations.

    Where dat?

  87. Stimpson J. Cat

    I see that sawn off left wing turd Ben Shapiro is troubled by the allegations.

    Please don’t disparage respected public intellectual Ben Shapiro, IT.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    If Shapiro is an intellectual, I’m a swimsuit model.

  89. Rae

    My observation of the couch on Insiders. If you’re over 50 (Ms Middleton), black hair dye is a big no no!

    No doubt Karen Middleton already knows this. Her hair is not dyed black. It’s quite a dark brown, and suits her, I think.

    Don’t know if she’s over 50.

    Paul Manafort is. And he does dye his hair black.

  90. .

    This Kavanaugh thing keeps on twisting.

    Remember when it was an academic at Harvard who wrote a letter to a Mass. Dem. who gave it to Feinstein…well good luck finding that on Google now.

    Anyway:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/13/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein-confidential-letter

    A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter. It is not yet clear who wrote it.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh-accuser-comes-forward-in-interview-with-the-washington-post/

    In the interview, Ford said she believes the alleged incident occurred in 1982, when she was a 15-year-old sophomore at an all-girls school in suburban Maryland. Kavanaugh, who attended an all-boys school, would have been 17….

    …When she went upstairs to use the bathroom, Ford told the Post that she was pushed into a bedroom. She said Kavanaugh pinned her to the bed and groped her, trying to remove her clothing and a one-piece bathing suit underneath. Judge stood across the room and both of the boys were laughing “maniacally,” Ford said. When she tried to scream, she said Kavanaugh held his hand over her mouth.

    “I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” she told the Post. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.”

    Eventually, Ford said, Judge jumped on top of them, and she managed to get free and lock herself in a bathroom. After she heard the boys “going down the stairs, hitting the walls,” she said she made it downstairs and out the door, but doesn’t remember how she got home.

    I reckon the woman who came out is doing a favour for Senator Feinstein. Or at least the media could tell us which of the two sources is a big noting bullshitter.

    You can’t be 15 and 17 at the same time.

  91. mh

    Remember when Ben Shapiro white knighted Michelle Fields?

    Credibility zero.

  92. Snoopy

    You can’t be 15 and 17 at the same time.

    Obviously Kavanaugh attacked her. Twice!

  93. Roger

    The sooner she is turfed the better.

    I understand Gichuhi has been relegated in pre-selections to the 4th spot on the next senate ticket, so she’ll be gone after the next election.

    After struggling to live on a parliamentarian’s salary, it will be interesting to see if she goes back on the government teat with a sinecure from the SA Liberals.

    Whose bright idea was it to bring her into the fold? Oh yes, Maladroit.

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    I refuse to believe these Kavanagh allegations until a credible witness like Stormy Daniels comes forward.

  95. pete m

    dot, seems the source misheard it. The details in the Wash Post article come straight from the lady.

    What parents would leave a 15 year old girl to go back to a house where drinking is going on with 17 year old boys?

    She seems to have admitted having some drinks too.

    I have little doubt some exploration of bodies took place – happens with kids in late teens all the time. Most put it down to growing up.

    The large denial by his mate and her inability to name others who were there really makes her story seem contrived.

    Kavanaugh admits having a lot to drink back then, so I don’t put it past him he got up to some frisky moments and cannot recall them now as he was too drunk.

    Not enough for me to strike him out from the Supreme Court.

    I bet her current husband has a few teenage year shenanigans he’d rather not brought out too.

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    If Shapiro is an intellectual, I’m a swimsuit model.

    If you’re a swimsuit model, Sinc looks attractive in a mankini.

  97. Top Ender

    The Liberals can never turf a female.

    Then again, Julie Bishop self-turfed.

    A very good word to remember in such discussions is defenestration. When i learnt this one at the age of 37 I was so impressed I carried it around for several months.

    defenestration
    ˌdiːfɛnɪˈstreɪʃ(ə)n/
    noun
    1.
    formalhumorous
    the action of throwing someone out of a window.
    “death by defenestration has a venerable history”
    2.
    informal
    the action or process of dismissing someone from a position of power or authority.
    “that victory resulted in Churchill’s own defenestration by the war-weary British electorate”

  98. Myrddin Seren

    From Zippy’s Katie Hopkins link @ 7:43:

    She has been plugging the documentary she made in South Africa earlier this year, when she was detained at the airport on her way home for spreading racial hatred .

    Hopkins was temporarily banned from travelling back to the UK when authorities hauled her aside and marked her passport for spreading racial hatred….

    I can’t readily see that Katie Hopkins has been convicted of a criminal offence in a court of law – willing to stand corrected ?

    So on a scale of 1-10, how worrying is it that ALLEGEDLY, Seth Efrican Immigration has marked her passport for wrongthink – given that, if it has been so noted and on international databases, her future travel could be compromised ?

    And who else could get marked for such matters – apart from Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone and Martin Sellner ?

    Who will be the first Cat held up at Customs someplace and stamped as a ‘Deplorable’ for posting here ?

  99. cohenite

    If Shapiro is an intellectual, I’m a swimsuit model.

    Present photos or shut up.

  100. .

    But here’s the thing. Eshoo passed it onto Feinstein. The letter Eshoo got was from a Stanford Law Prof. who was the accusers friend. No, it was from the accuser herself, not through a third party who is a Prof. of Clinical Psychology.

    You cannot change identity and your age.

  101. Stimpson J. Cat

    Who will be the first Cat held up at Customs someplace and stamped as a ‘Deplorable’ for posting here ?

    I don’t know if this counts, but every single time I go to the airport I get the explosives test.
    Every.
    Single.
    Time.
    Maybe I look crazy or something.
    It’s really annoying.

  102. Rae

    Definitely worthy of observation from yesterdays Insiders is Barrie Cassidy’s hairstyle and its two toned colouring. It is totally bizarre. And Barrie is definitely over 50.

  103. Snoopy

    Whatever the truth, it’s fairly certain Ford’s husband is lying.

    He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    third party who is a Prof. of Clinical Psychology.

    F$cking Jordan Peterson is behind this.
    I knew it.
    Damn Leafs.

  105. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.elected to the presidency

    fixerala!

  106. Myrddin Seren

    Tel

    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/14/skripal-poisoning-suspects-passport-data-shows-link-security-services/

    This Wussian lady ( of course ), has been pushing back to the Bellingcat crew and the ‘Get Smart’ Wusski assassins narrative in general ( cue the Benny Hill music as they roll around Salisbury in plain view with a vial of deadly nerve poison ).

    Not sure what to think about the Skripol poisoning at this stage. If it is a sanctioned Russian secret service assassination, they better buy the Jason Bourne collection and teach their agents about moving quickly and discretely – in plain view.

  107. H B Bear

    After struggling to live on a parliamentarian’s salary, it will be interesting to see if she goes back on the government teat with a sinecure from the SA Liberals.

    If that is Gichuhi’s plan she isn’t doing herself any favours. Trying to unload four investment properties or whatever it is during a property downturn will give her a valuable (if belated) lesson in real life economics.

  108. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.awarded the nobel peace prize

    the horror!

  109. P

    JUST IN: Congressional aides tell Wired Sources they expect Brett Kavanaugh to get confirmed despite 11th-hour ‘bumps on the road’
    https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1041473585020370944

  110. Wow, poor form by JC lately. First he runs the QAnon line about how in Soviet Russia Trump convicts THE GOVERNMENT, then he backs up his boy Ben Shapiro on the day it comes out that Shapiro was an accomplice of Manafort in his conspiracy against the US. At least he’s always got Sydney Airport.

  111. .

    Also, remember that Trump nominated BK on July 9, whilst the letter “written to” Feinstein was written on July 30.

    There is another inconsistency – that Eshoo “passed the information onto” Feinstein.

    Who gets a House of Reps seat warmer to deliver their mail to Senators? She can name who she accuses (well, one or two of them out of three) but she cannot name her own friends who went to the party with her.

    I could say more, but don’t want to go off half-cocked.

  112. .

    Cannot name her own friends as witnesses, not even in a redacted manner as leaked to the press.

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    then he backs up his boy Ben Shapiro

    Monty I know it may be hard to believe but Ben Shapiro is actually a man.
    He’s just small for his age.

  114. Oh come on

    I notice that Stimpson has shrunk to regurgitating m0nty talking points. Stimps, go and give yourself an uppercut, you twit.

  115. JC

    JUST IN: Congressional aides tell Wired Sources they expect Brett Kavanaugh to get confirmed despite 11th-hour ‘bumps on the road’
    https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1041473585020370944

    The D’rats know this. They’re just poisoning the well with this guy attempting “Thomas” him too. Scumbags all the way.

  116. Myrddin Seren

    The woman who wrote the letter alleging that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were in high school came forward on Sunday, detailing the incident to The Washington Post and providing contemporaneous notes and the results of a polygraph test in an effort to back her claims.

    Read the comments on this thread.

    Even if Kavanaugh is confirmed this week – the narrative will be that any and all decisions will not be deemed valid because of #Bedroomgate.

    Can a Supreme Court justice be impeached, because you can bet House Democrats will be readying a motion of impeachment right behind The Donald’s if they can get the numbers in the midterms ?

  117. JC

    m0nty
    #2818229, posted on September 17, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Wow, poor form by JC lately. First he runs the QAnon line about how in Soviet Russia Trump convicts THE GOVERNMENT, then he backs up his boy Ben Shapiro on the day it comes out that Shapiro was an accomplice of Manafort in his conspiracy against the US. At least he’s always got Sydney Airport.

    I have no freaking idea what you babbling on about, Fatboy.
    Who or What is QAnon? The rest of is random tripe. WTF are you talking about?

  118. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to all of our Mexican friends on National Independence Day. We will be doing great things together!

  119. The Liberals can never turf a female.

    AFAIK to turf anything, you first have to eat it.

  120. C.L.

    Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room

    … and get back to the blow jobs she was giving two other guys in the next room.

  121. In an interview, her husband, Russell Ford, said that in the 2012 (couples therapy) sessions, she recounted being trapped in a room with two drunken boys, one of whom pinned her to a bed, molested her and prevented her from screaming. He said he recalled that his wife used Kavanaugh’s last name and voiced concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might one day be nominated to the Supreme Court.

    Ahahahahahahahaha.

    Indeed. That conversation is so contrived as to be unbelievable. Apparently, his being a Federal Court judge at the time was fine and not worth acting upon, but being nominated for the Supreme Court is a bridge too far. There are few things I can’t abide more than bearing false witness against another.

  122. Rae

    Can a Supreme Court justice be impeached

    Yes.

  123. Stimpson J. Cat

    I notice that Stimpson has shrunk to regurgitating m0nty talking points. Stimps, go and give yourself an uppercut, you twit.

    Why would I punch myself for criticizing Ben Shapiro?
    Why don’t you tell IT to punch himself?
    And Monty is regurgitating my talking points thank you very much.

  124. JC

    This is the problem though.

    But even as Republican leadership is indicating they want to move forward with Kavanaugh, his nomination remains short of the 50 votes needed to be confirmed.

    The caucus’s two potential swing votes — GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Susan Collins (Maine) — have yet to say how they will vote or if they want to delay the vote in the wake of the allegations, which first surfaced late last week when Senate Democrats said they had given a letter detailing the alleged incident to the FBI.

    Spokespeople for both senators didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on Sunday. Collins had a one-hour phone call with Kavanaugh on Friday that was previously scheduled.

    “Well I obviously was very surprised and it’s, it’s an issue that I brought up with him last Friday and he denied as he did in his written statement,” she told CNN on Sunday, declining to comment further.

    The two senators are under a mountain of pressure by liberal activists and outside groups to oppose Kavanaugh in the wake of the sexual assault allegation. The two were already considered potential swing votes because they’ve previously broken with their party on ObamaCare repeal and abortion-related legislation.

    Collins is basically a Leftie.

  125. Rebel with cause

    “However, Ford told The Post she did not recall exactly who owned the house, how she came to be at the house, or how the gathering was arranged. She remembered only that the house was in Montgomery County, near a country club, and that parents were not present.”

    So the sexual assault that “derailed” your life for years and (you claim) stopped you having normal relationships with men and you can’t remember where it happened or how you got to be there? Bit weird for an event you still need counselling for 35 years later. The sort of thing that, if it had actually happened, you wouldn’t be able to forget these kind of details.

    That the media is reporting this allegation as fact shows exactly why nobody buys newspapers anymore. Not worth the paper they are printed on.

  126. JC

    Why don’t you tell IT to punch himself?

    He’s a swimsuit model.

  127. .

    Yeah right. A polygraph test (not admissible in court as evidence) administered by a party engaged by her own attorney.

    I’m going all in. Unless she produces her own witnesses, or one of BK’s contradict him, then…

    So three things have changed in the accusations against Kavanaugh:

    1. The identity of the accuser.
    2. The nature of the accusations.
    3. The age of the parties/the year it happened.
    4. The number of parties to the incident and witnesses.
    5. The inconsistency of how the witnesses could have witnessed either event.

    The witnesses could not be named and she has not explained how she got to the party, who she came with and they, if they exist at all, have not corroborated her story. Nor could she name a third party in the second version of events.

    Whereas everyone else is corroborating Kavanaugh’s recollection of it never happening. Furthermore, there is the convenient tale that the husband recalls from couple’s therapy.

    Then you have to realise how long the Democrats have sat on this for, along with the volume of hearings this time around, and three prior security clearances.

  128. C.L.

    I love how the Sisters Are Doing It For Themselves and I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar and These Boots Are Made For Walking and R-E-S-P-E-C-T Liberal ladies are crying in a corner about ‘bullying.’ I remember in the aftermath of the Keating/Hawke war there were accusations of bullying made against Keating. Asked about it, he replied, “Even if it happened, you wouldn’t tell anyone about it.” In other words, to cite bullying was to admit your own embarrassing beta weakness.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    Someone explain this to me please.

    KANYE WEST
    @kanyewest
    Film concept: a being purchases a Merriam-Webster’s dictionary from Walgreens to highlight positive words in orange and negative words in yellow crafting language charged by African parables willing universal power manifesting world peace

    (link: https://instagram.com/p/BnxXx-bFlmo/) instagram.com/p/BnxXx-bFlmo/

  130. JC

    I’m going all in. Unless she produces her own witnesses, or one of BK’s contradict him, then…

    At least 25% of the country (hardcore D’rats) would swear black and blue on a stack of bibles they were at the party and most were not even born then. Don’t even go there.

  131. C.L.

    Furthermore, there is the convenient tale that the husband recalls from couple’s therapy.

    What sort of a ‘man’ goes to ‘couples therapy’?

  132. .

    “However, Ford told The Post she did not recall exactly who owned the house, how she came to be at the house, or how the gathering was arranged. She remembered only that the house was in Montgomery County, near a country club, and that parents were not present.”

    This is some slimy stuff. No corroborating witnesses that she said saw it, nor do her friends she does not recall, not even redacted form, offer corroboration.

  133. Rebel with cause

    Pretty convinient that the details of her recollection are so vague they can’t be refuted. #BelieveHer

  134. JC

    What sort of a ‘man’ goes to ‘couples therapy’?

    I think it’s necessary sometimes, CL. You need to get over humps that impact the relationship.

  135. OldOzzie

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2818216, posted on September 17, 2018 at 9:57 am

    Who will be the first Cat held up at Customs someplace and stamped as a ‘Deplorable’ for posting here ?

    I don’t know if this counts, but every single time I go to the airport I get the explosives test.
    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

    Maybe I look crazy or something.
    It’s really annoying.

    You are not alone Stimpy – Domestically same as me, every time – I do mention that I haven’t used Semtex since my Army Days in CMF but Internationally, last 4 trips have got the Full Scan – I would hate to be looking at my body

  136. JC

    Hahahahaha just kidding.

    What a fucking pansy.

    In fact even inadvertently…. even in movies where there a couples counseling scene etc, the dude is always a fucking pansy. Always.

  137. .

    Here’s the thing. If BK is telling the truth he ought to sacrifice his own dignity and sue the Commiefornia D’rats, DNC, Feinstein, Ford, Eshoo, the FBI, Katz, the WaPo, CBS, Guardian for hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Most judges will never do this, but in light of the inconsistencies of the accusations, he should make them suffer.

    It would also see an awesome discovery process. I’d love to see Feinstein’s email server.

  138. What sort of a ‘man’ goes to ‘couples therapy’?

    A desperate for sex man. (I’m surprised you asked)

    W: “if you want to have sex then you are going to ‘couples therapy'”
    H: “yes dear”

  139. Rae

    Why Brett Kavanaugh Might Lose Supreme Court Seat After Sexual Assault Allegation

    Ford’s story is highly credible. It contains as much detail as could be expected of an incident that took place three and a half decades ago, and there is no doubt that she and Kavanaugh shared a broad social circle. She reached out to the Post before Kavanaugh was nominated, refuting the notion that she is part of some desperate last-ditch effort to derail his nomination. She submitted to a polygraph test with an FBI agent and passed, and while polygraph tests have questionable value, a person who was making up an accusation would probably not want to offer to take one.

  140. JC

    It would also see an awesome discovery process. I’d love to see Feinstein’s email server.

    You couldn’t read it. It’s all in Chinese.

  141. Snoopy

    She reached out to the Post before Kavanaugh was nominated,

    So why did the Bezos Bugle sit on her ‘reach out’? Misogyny?

  142. .

    Pretty convenient that the details of her recollection are so vague they can’t be refuted.

    True to a point, she went there with “four friends” in a letter to Feinstein. She did not and can not name them. They were not leaked even in a redacted form.

    Now she has to dig up four women who were friends with her at the time who went to this party (presumably from the same school) and support her version of events.

    “I request anonymity”
    “No, I don’t”

    Kavanaugh’s friends & associates came forward to support his version of events (did not happen). No one has come forward to corroborate her story.

  143. JC

    Here’s your problem with that theory, Gools.

    This could very well have happened to her at a party both she and BK were attending. She may be accounting for true events. However, the person who did this to her may not have been BK and been someone else. Being a D’ratter she Could easily accuse BK. The person who did this to her is not going to front up and say, “I did it”, is he (or she)

    The other thing is, Trump circulated a public list of the names of judges he would consider for the court about three years ago and I recall the WSJ journal ran a short story on each and how likely they were. So his name has been thrown around as a contender for around three years now.

  144. .

    She reached out to the Post before Kavanaugh was nominated

    So the story that the Post & everywhere else reported about Eshoo passing the “confidential matter” to Feinstein (who apparently had Eshoo personally deliver a letter to her) and wanting to remain anonymous was made up?

    Like how her identity changed from being a Stanford Law Prof (actually, only a third party who never existed, “the source”) to a Prof of Clin. Psych. elsewhere, who directly contacted the post & Eshoo/Feinstein, and only reached out after Feinstein’s comments on 13 Sep?

  145. I don’t know if this counts, but every single time I go to the airport I get the explosives test.

    Pfft.

    How about, the full pat down* and pocket turn out and unpack everything in your hand luggage.

    Twice happened.

    * “Is this a pen?”
    “Yes its a fscken pen”
    “No need to be aggressive sir”

  146. JC

    Kavanaugh’s friends & associates came forward to support his version of events (did not happen). No one has come forward to corroborate her story.

    Wrong, she was there. She claims she was 17 at the time.

    Dot, you’re going to have all types claiming they were at the party – even as far away as Alaska. Don’t go there.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    What sort of a ‘man’ goes to ‘couples therapy’?

    I did lots of relationship courses and all of that feelings sh$t.
    I was willing to try anything to save my marriage.
    Unfortunately, nothing was capable of changing the sad fact that I was a terrible husband and mentally ill.
    I’m still a nice guy though so it’s fine.
    😁

  148. JC

    Stimson

    What do you do in couples therapy? I’d laugh all the way through, I reckon.

  149. Snoopy

    “Is this a pen?”
    “No it’s a cleverly disguised 80 mm mortar tube”

  150. JC

    I’d love to hear what John C has to say about it all

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    He’s a swimsuit model.

    Not until I see photos he’s not.

  152. JC

    Text
    Can you ask John C’s opinion on this subject. I’m a little surprised you haven’t as yet.

  153. Stimpson J. Cat

    What do you do in couples therapy? I’d laugh all the way through, I reckon.

    Couples Therapy?
    Are you crazy?
    I did relationship courses by myself with other desperate people struggling to turn their sad lives around.
    I took my wife to psych a few times though, it was great when I saw the look of realization slowly dawning on his face as he began to understand not only why I was so crazy, but also that I was not the only crazy one in the relationship.
    The poor b$stard.
    😁

  154. Snoopy

    The Perg never lets go. It’s for life.

  155. thefrollickingmole

    I bring fresh evidence of DOOOOOMMM!!!

    Back from a little course on workers comp run by our insurer.
    Apparently stress/bullying is the new “bad back”, up to 30% or so of claims.

    Also a microscopically small amount of them end us as anything other than being paid “fuck off” money, the whole process is basically working towards minimizing the payout.

    The evidence you need to present for a claim of stress.
    How you feel, justified or unjustified is the burden of proof.
    As was put to us, if i was to walk out of this meeting claiming Id been singled out, bullied/belittled by the presenter and was too upset to return to work then the statements by the 12 other people in the room that didnt happen is irrelevant.

    Its literally a “MUH FEELZ” level of evidence.

    I bet Stimpy can pick who the main claimants are…

  156. Rebel with cause

    Couples therapy sounds like the sort of thing beta males get excited about. Wife recounting hazy details of a high school sex romp gone wrong so that beta husband finally has a satisfying reason for why she won’t give him head.

  157. Dot’s right, the so-called ‘facts’ surrounding this claim have changed significantly.

  158. JC

    Snoopy
    #2818284, posted on September 17, 2018 at 11:15 am

    The Perg never lets go. It’s for life.

    Lol.

    I’m hurties,

  159. .

    The only way to settle the matter is to get Ford (BK’s accuser) before Congress, under oath to testify on the matter – along with Eshoo, Feinstein, the Post, CBS & Guardian journos, Katz and Ford’s husband.

  160. .

    Oh yeah – and the “FBI agents”.

  161. JC

    The only way to settle the matter is to get Ford (BK’s accuser) before Congress, under oath to testify on the matter – along with Eshoo, Feinstein, the Post, CBS & Guardian journos, Katz and Ford’s husband.

    That’s a version of the Thomas abortion all over again.

  162. Stimpson J. Cat

    The important thing to remember about Couples Therapy is this:

    It is a scam created by Women to foster the illusion that everything wrong in the relationship is the Man’s fault.

    Everyone knows this, especially Women.

    If your wife suggests Couples Therapy it means she wants to trade up to a bug d$ck bad boy with a hipster beard and tattoos who will make her soy lattes, or a butch Lesbian who will introduce her to the wonders of carpet shopping and kitsch.

  163. JC

    I’ll keep that in mind, Stimson.

  164. .

    …you know why I want that to happen though? She has four unnamed witnesses she “came to the party with”.

    Congress could also look at Feinstein and Eshoo’s comms.

  165. H B Bear

    Mole -sounds like bullying is the new RSI. Remember all those poor public servants with their kangaroo paws? Was that the 80s?

  166. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’ll keep that in mind, Stimson.

    Also maybe show you are appreciative to her interests and paying her attention for example,
    “Anything interesting in the New York Times today darling?”
    Etc etc.

  167. thefrollickingmole

    sounds like bullying is the new RSI

    Thats about it.
    She was at pains to point out certain occupation in general will always generate a certain amount of claims (ambo/cop/nurse etc) but they are different as most of the time the person wants to return to work.

    15 years ago the % of “stress” claims was under 5%.

    And yes, civil service seems rife with such claims.

  168. Gab

    There’s a new Fred in town, guys.

  169. Senile Old Guy

    Laura Tingle is 7.30’s chief political correspondent.

    Which tells you a lot about the ABC.

    The tearing down of Mr Turnbull’s prime ministership has been perhaps the most incomprehensible example of this. Mr Turnbull was destroyed by people in the Liberal Party who, whatever they said about trying to save the Government, were actually prepared to lose it to achieve their ends.

    Mr 38 negative newspolls who shot down Abbott because of 30. Mr “never accomplished anything”, “never had any policies”, “it’s all about me”. The one who said he would not resign if he lost the leadership but then quit almost immediately, from New York.

    Having fomented an air of chaos, weakness and dysfunction around the man he deposed as Liberal leader, and then around the Rudd and Gillard governments, Mr Abbott promised voters he would lead a government that would be “back in charge”.

    Tingle has not worked out that oppositions are supposed to cause chaos for the government. It was something Turnbull was incapable of doing as opposition leader. The one who actually “fomented an air of chaos, weakness and dysfunction” was her bestie Turnbull, leaking at every opportunity and pulling stunts.

    Mr Turnbull’s return to the Liberal leadership in 2015 could be seen as a rejection of the strongman, even if there was a yearning that he should shift politics back to some central place from which it had been dislodged by Mr Abbott.

    Turnbull is an out and out leftie. The evidence: all the ALP policies he supported and introduced.

    This passes for political commentary by the national broadcaster. What a sad state of affairs.

  170. DrBeauGan

    So the worst thing they can say about kavanaugh is that he might have groped a chick at a party when he was a drunk teenager? That’s it? And this is supposed to render him ineligible for the scotus? And it may be a fabrication anyway?

    This is more insanity from the loony loser lefties.

  171. John Constantine

    Their abc announces that Shepparton has the largest percentage of homeless people in its population of all rural victorian towns, higher than urban average.

    Their abc reads from an activist press release calling for State funding for housing.

    Dump mass imported numbers of the worlds poorest people into a town from helicopters for economic stimulus, and why be surprised when you get poverty pockets?.

    At least they all vote for totalitarian socialism.

    Comrades.

  172. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good to see you leading the Men of Catallaxy, Stimpy. A born leader of ever I saw one.

    Also above, brave women such as Cassie listed, standing up to Islam. And other brave speakers against the left and its deniers, women like Lauren and men like Milo. We are happy to pay to go and see them and enjoy being in like-minded company for a good night out. The more supporters of such people come out and are obvious the more others feeling alone in their objections to creeping leftism know they are part of the no longer silent majority. Same goes for functions by the IPA and similar groups.

    We have just had brekkie in Crete at a hotel sitting high up overlooking the great bay of Aghios Nickolas, the place Calli recommended. Stunning views from our pleasantly old-style room with private balcony. We headed down that way on spec, intoning to each other let’s just choose a place to stay when we get there. Due to unforeseen car hire problems and our own late arising that wasn’t till 7.30pm. Hairy’s four criteria: views, aircon, parking and pool hard to see in town to we drove to a big 5 star on the edge of town. I hopped out of the car and went to enquire re availability. My heart sank at the large but pallid entry foyer and the busloads of American tourists milling around pushing their hard Samsonites like toy trucks before them. The building was a high rise block of sameness and the man at reception pretended ar first to not understand me, repeating askance at my in a low cut leopard print top without even my handbag and saying suspiciously you want a room alone madam? With my husband who is waiting in the car outside, I replied in my best crystal English tones of put down. He deigned then to search his computer but the place was as full as the last candidate hotel we had enquired from. I was very relieved because why pay 300 euros a night for something you’d hate? We drove on up the hill and did a skid into this place when I yelled Hairy! Stop! And here we are in a charming hotel fulfilling all requirements beautifully.

    There is even a little kitten, not too neglected, buffing us gently for some of the German brekkie meat. Cats still run wild here, not like what Hairy calls now ‘dose middle class cats of the Colosseum’, which are far, desexed and cared for by a charity due to tourist sensibilities. Our current hotel is apparently fave with the Kraut cyclists in lycra, specially catered to here with all signs about not flushing the pilot paper only in German. I’m not doing lycra, Hairy jokes with the Swiss owner who has welcomed us with open arms and every assistance. Every night here above this bay they serve table d’hote of genuine Greek food with, they proudly tell us, nothing ever frozen, everything fresh. It was delicious lamb and papayas falling off the juicy bone last night. We sat over wine and raki (Hairy drank my raki) discussing the glories of the Crete Archaeological Museum where we had spent much of the afternoon.

    What a marvelous civilization existed here from 3000bc till its decline after Thera erupted and its ending (probably from sea people attacks) some few hundred years later. We were gobsmacked at the beauty and sheer elegance of this lost world on display. The jewellery, the ceremonial clothing, the ceremonial life with religious iconography well-shared between male and female forms, which seems to relate to a peaceful trading-based island economy, well positioned to specialise 8n high quality artisan ware. Desert people love to surround themselves wit’ nice things, says Hairy appreciatively. Relative freedom from attack under the strong rule established by King Minos made it all possible. So beautiful you actually physically gasp at some of it.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Excuse the wretched phone adjustments. Cats were fat, hotel man was regarding my leopard print top etc.

    Won’t get my small computer fixed now till maybe Israel or London.

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Toilet paper not pilot paper. You have to bin it because there is a water shortage and the paper wrecks the sewage farm. Common in Greece as we have found on past trips too.

  175. Rafe Champion

    A picture attached to a strange newsletter that turned up in the email. Mildly amusing. OK, now I see, it is a Paraconsistent Logic Site , god knows why I subscribed, right now I am terminating subscriptions to reduce the time spend deleting email.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Greek palates for potatoes not papaya. I really must disable this idiotic robotic intervention.

  177. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Guess the author. no peeking
    American Democracy Is in Crisis
    Our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh ffs. The auto correct has sent my long comment into moderation by ‘fixing’ my fix on the anti-Bird word. Sinc, why can’t the female adornment word and those who make it be given a pass? I was only saying how lovely the Minoan stuff was. No-one ever scrolls back so now youse’ll never know how useful Calli’s recommendation was when we were at the freeway crossroads up from Knossos (we had tickets but got there to late so are saving Knossos for another day) deciding whether to go east or west. Had changed plan on south as I didn’t want to go where Hairy spent his first honeymoon in hippyville aged 21. Calli said Aghios Nicholas is nice, I said, and so Hairy turned right towards it. Who’s Calli, he asked. 🙂

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