Wednesday Forum: September 26, 2018

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  1. Snoopy

    I bought into SPY and IVV on the basis that he’s always wrong. And I’m up already!

    Friday will be huuuge!

  2. pete m

    mine started working again recently after being down most of day.

  3. Gab

    Apparently Bigpond emails are down big-time.

    Top Ender mine was down yesterday and today, however I installed those pesky Windows updates, restarted the machine then did a CC Cleaner for bugs etc plus a Malwarebytes scan and email working now.

  4. .

    Monty

    Just buy us all lunch. I can do mid-January.

  5. zyconoclast

    Bloomberg to spend $100 million in effort to flip the House

    Mike Bloomberg is digging deeper into his vast fortune and will spend $100 million to try to flip the House to Democratic control in the midterm elections, according to a report Thursday.

    The billionaire former mayor had earlier pledged to cough up $80 million.

  6. Confused Old Misfit

    What is the bet there are a lot of American politicians with a teenage past more hormonal than Judge Kav’s?.

    What’s the bet there are a lot of Cats & Kityns with a teenage past more hormonal than Judge Kav’s?

  7. Whalehunt Fun

    The Democrats have succeeded. They have ensured that a new Supreme Court Judge sees them as traitors to morality, democracy and the rule of law. I mean, that was their objective was it not?

  8. Snoopy

    Monty

    Just buy us all lunch. I can do mid-January.

    I’d prefer mine via Uber Eats.

  9. Tiny Dancer

    Fantastic! So what I need is a cute aerobics chick with large breats in a fluorescent pink leotard, following me around

    Fixed

  10. Dr Faustus

    Banking royal commission interim report released; blames greed for misconduct

    So, not demonic possession, or instructions from the New World Order then?
    That’s a satisfying depth of insight for $75 million.

  11. Snoopy

    The atmosphere on CNN is hilariously funereal.

  12. H B Bear

    From Dr Faustus’ link,

    Commissioner Hayne said the key questions the commission had to answer were why and how to stop it happening again.

    He added that, in many cases, the answer to the first question was obvious.

    “Too often, the answer seems to be greed — the pursuit of short-term profit at the expense of basic standards of honesty,” he wrote.

    Peanut Head will be tumescent with excitement hearing that. He will rev up the class struggle rhetoric from here to his moving in to The Lodge.

  13. Top Ender

    Telstra has got their act together – Bigpond is back.

    Cheque for annoying its customers is in the mail via Botswana.

  14. C.L.

    The atmosphere on CNN is hilariously funereal.

    I have secured exclusive footage from a CNN meeting …

  15. Mother Lode

    The Left always projects. Always.

    They have to.

    That way they can hate what they are, without having to hate themselves.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cassie, got a plane to catch but just wanted to say I know you are very mindful of Sinc’s rules re anonymity and I don’t think you had breaking these in mind in your desire to give the left a taste of their own medicine. As you say, they will get that anyway, when they are blown up (hoist) by their own petard and not by personal exposure on this site. Also it is good to see you speak up for good sense between women and men, not the pussy-hat nonsense of today’s terminally aggrieved females and wannabe females who really have no cause to either complain about or for which to seek any redress.

  17. twostix

    I can’t believe nobody has pointed out the obvious: Ford looks like a low effort tranny.

    Sad.

  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No cause not already well-addressed within our laws, that is. And as we know, some of those laws have been tinkered with to the detriment of men.

  19. John Constantine

    After all this, if Judge Kav turns into Pope Francis, the world is stuffed.

  20. cohenite

    I loved the way Kavanaugh took the oath: he buttoned his suit coat and snapped to attention. Ford wandered up and down like an addled tool and had to be advised by her lawyer before she gradually put her hand up like someone stepping off a cliff.

  21. Mother Lode

    Bloomberg to spend $100 million in effort to flip the House

    Hey, spending big was what got Hillary over the line.

    Seriously though, announcing this sort of news is just what the Republicans should zero in on. Point out to the voters that Bloomberg (and the Democrats) are counting on them being gullible rubes who can be swayed by enough TV advertising, data mining, and celebrity endorsements – anything other than policy.

    Trump completely wrongfooted the Hildebeest. She had a massive machine working for her, but that makes it slow. Trump was infinitely more nimble. Her team would labour to produce a carefully crafted message, pre-fabricated for the MSM, with talking points, bright colours, sombre music etc. Then Trump would come along and knock the message over in a single tweet.

    All those hours and dollars wasted.

    And he was so abrasive about it that the MSM couldn’t let it go, still convinced that they had their fingers on the knob to turn public outrage up to eleven whenever they wanted.

    All free advertising.

    The Republicans should make a virtue of spending smaller. They just need to make sure everyone hears their message. Hell, simple delivery will look more honest than the elaborately choreographed theatrics the Democrats will get up to and make them look shifty.

    Which they are.

  22. Infidel Tiger

    Kav wasn’t the choice of the likes of Roger Stone. I remember him telling Alex Jones following Trump’s announcement that Kavanaugh was “a conservative, but not our type of conservative”

    Roger Stone and Alex Jones are conservative in the same way a guy who shoves a meth fuelled gerbil up his arse while fisting a donkey is conservative.

  23. Gab

    Roger Stone and Alex Jones are conservative in the same way a guy who shoves a meth fuelled gerbil up his arse while fisting a donkey is conservative.

    You have THE most creative imagination on the interwebs.

  24. DrBeauGan

    Trump completely wrongfooted the Hildebeest. She had a massive machine working for her, but that makes it slow. Trump was infinitely more nimble. Her team would labour to produce a carefully crafted message, pre-fabricated for the MSM, with talking points, bright colours, sombre music etc. Then Trump would come along and knock the message over in a single tweet.

    All those hours and dollars wasted.

    Shhh. Don’t tell them. The old traditional way of doing politics has been changed by Trump. The democrats haven’t figured it out yet, neither have most of the republicans.

    Trump just tells it like it is. This is revolutionary. Smothering the electorate in bullshit has stopped working. That’s why the democrats are getting desperate. 😁

  25. mh

    Infidel, “our type of conservative” as in a conservative that Roger Stone would support.

    Roger Stone has a long history working with Reagan, Nixon and Trump. He hates the Bushes – who Kavanaugh worked for.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    A big surprise for me: does neuro-imaging validate the concept of enlightenment in “Olympic level” meditators?

    Mitch – Shouldn’t be a surprise. Neuroplasticity means slow and steady progress in brain training is feasible. Christians do a similar thing: experiential sanctification. You train yourself over a lifetime to behave a certain way. I’m sure there would be brain changes analogous to these people.

    I doubt there would be much interest in doing studies on Christians since we’re regarded lower than pig poo by the academic left these days.

  27. wivenhoe

    since we’re regarded lower than pig poo by the academic left these days.

    Wow, the only thing that I know that is lower than pig poo is a congregation of leftists, but I always referred to them as being lower than a snakes belly.

  28. Makka

    Ok, GF weekend – GayFL doesn’t matter so it’s the Big Dance at the NRL. Melbourne by 10+

  29. Thanks for the Tucker/Kavanagh clip.
    I’ve put it onto my FB page for the family.

  30. Armadillo

    I reckon the Republicans made a mistake having that woman question Ford. She did a pretty poor job of it.

  31. mh

    I was only paraphrasing. I expect Roger Stone being such an eloquent speaker would have got the wording precise to leave no doubt the meaning, such as ‘the type of conservative we support’.

  32. wivenhoe

    Ok, GF weekend – GayFL doesn’t matter so it’s the Big Dance at the NRL. Melbourne by 10+

    Sorry to disillusion you, Makka, but I have ten bucks that says that you are wr…wro….wrong,

  33. mh

    Makka,
    Cronk to start the game.
    Roosters to win by 8

  34. Makka

    Makka,
    Cronk to start the game.
    Roosters to win by 8

    I’m counting on it that he will.

    Cronk said he still needs a “Hail Mary” to prove his fitness in time to take the field for the Chooks.

    “I got a bit of improvement today and it definitely needs some. Still trying to throw a Hail Mary. Hopefully it lands and we’ll see how we go on Sunday,” Cronk said.

    But he has yet to attempt tackling a player.

    “To be able to do some of the things to get stability, movement, range, it’s okay, it’s an improvement. But it’s not enough to tackle Jesse Bromwich or Dale Finucane,” Cronk said.
    “So I’ve got a fair bit of work to do.”

  35. Nick

    I depise the Rorters, Storm are no better.

  36. Elle

    Oh I hope the Roosters win. The eastern suburbs is buzzing where I am in Sydney. My local pub has flags covering it and “honk for the Roosters” posters all around it. I don’t really follow the league, but a bunch of us a getting together. Grand final weekend and a public holiday on Monday! Love Austraya!

  37. classical_hero

    Women in America must be careful what they wish for because it might happen. We currently live in a guilt society where the burden of proof is to prove guilt. What they want is a shame society that the burden of proof is on the innocent to prove their innocence. In shame societies it’s often the women who are the ones that suffer from the accusations.

  38. mh

    So what happens tonight? (Friday in the US)

  39. Top Ender

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is not ruling out considering a merger the ABC and SBS as an ongoing government review examines spending at the public broadcasters.

    Oz

  40. Top Ender

    Check out the photos and sense of entitlement; plus manipulation of the system:

    A member of the Fraser Coast Butchulla indigenous community, Clarke had previously aspired to organising a festival for her culture.

    On January 27 this year, Clarke attacked police and security guards Smoke N Leather nightclub in Hervey Bay while drunk, the Fraser Coast Chronicle reported.

    The court heard that when police arrived to arrest Clarke, she had to be chased down the road and then forcefully put into the vehicle.

    At the watch house, Clarke said, “F**k off you slut” to an officer before kicking them.

    She was also in possession of marijuana.

    Her defence lawyer said Clarke had no memory of the incident and had been experiencing difficulties and drinking heavily.

    Hervey Bay magistrate Stephen Guttridge said that it was Clarke’s third time in court for that type of offence, fined her $1200 and recorded a conviction.

    On her Instagram page, Clarke says she is fighting “institutional racism” and “I am filled with so much anger, it consumes me on a daily basis”.

    “My ancestors died with fear in their blood which writes our DNA,” she wrote.

    “This is a colonial society and it has been trying to get rid off us for the last 200 years.

    “Stop telling us that we can’t be angry, it’s an expression we need to project otherwise it will eat us whole.”

  41. Actually, dot, or anyone else who has legal experience outside of pub practise, a question for you.
    1. I live in Queensland.
    2. I have a firearms licence and a proper gunsafe to store my firearms in.
    3. I realise that police can come to my house unannounced and check firearms are stored legally.
    4. I also have another safe that I keep personal papers and valuables in.
    Can the police demand I open this safe for inspection on the grounds it may have firearm/parts/munitions in it?
    I think the issue here is do the above points give a copper the right to search my residence and buildings?

  42. Mark from Melbourne

    You (IT) have THE most creative imagination on the interwebs.

    Seconded with bells on.

  43. Top Ender

    1. Well, why not?
    2. Good-O
    3. As they do
    4. No

  44. cohenite

    3. I realise that police can come to my house unannounced and check firearms are stored legally.

    Not without notice or some other justification: like you support Trump.

  45. Top Ender

    From memory, the coppers would have to have “reasonable suspicion” the other safe would have something to do with the reason they were in the property in the first place. This might help.

  46. Confused Old Misfit:

    What’s the bet there are a lot of Cats & Kityns with a teenage past more hormonal than Judge Kav’s?

    Shoosh there, CoM.
    What happens in the teenage years stays in the teenage years.
    Hopefully.

  47. DrBeauGan

    It’s interesting that a conservative like IT can write about a different sort of conservative can let a meth fired gerbil up his arse while fisting a donkey, and be praised for the wit by other conservatives.

    I’m not complaining, you understand, just noting that what counts as a conservative has changed a lot over my lifetime.

  48. I am bespoke

    “F**k you white dogs. I’m smart not dumb. I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”
    Clarke, who had been studying environmental science degree at a Sunshine Coast university, moved to Sydney earlier this year.

    The only predatory problem at university’s is the groups grooming minority’s as cannon fodder.

  49. Elle

    From memory, the coppers would have to have “reasonable suspicion” the other safe would have something to do with the reason they were in the property in the first place

    You have a good memory, Top Ender.

  50. DrBeauGan

    I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”

    Degrees in Environmental pseudoscience don’t count. You can get them in exchange for three wheaties box tops and being more than one sixteenth aboriginal.

  51. Mark from Melbourne

    It’s interesting that a conservative like IT can write about a different sort of conservative can let a meth fired gerbil up his arse while fisting a donkey, and be praised for the wit by other conservatives.

    I for one couldn’t have given two tosses about whom he was writing. It’s the creativity of insult I quite adore.

  52. Infidel Tiger

    Roger Stone has a long history working with Reagan, Nixon and Trump.

    Stone also worked on the campaign to elect the Sheriff of Broward County.

    Let that sink in.

  53. DrBeauGan

    I for one couldn’t have given two tosses about whom he was writing. It’s the creativity of insult I quite adore.

    You must be one of the new style conservatives, then.

    I may become one myself if IT keeps it up.

  54. JC

    Just listening to the Kav’s testimony. He sounds very convincing and a very decent, likeable person. He likes beer.

    The D’rats on the committee should be prosecuted for what those c..ts tried to do to him.

    I just hope they end up being trounced in Nov.

  55. “F**k you white dogs. I’m smart not dumb. I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”

    Well, of course. Australia has more degrees than just about any other continent.
    Degrees of heat.
    …and obviously, stupidity.

  56. Nick

    I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”

    Cultural appropriation.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    I’m smart not dumb.

    Sounds like Fredo.

  58. Snoopy

    mh
    #2827050, posted on September 28, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    So what happens tonight? (Friday in the US)

    Zoe Daniel’s mascara is going to run. She’s going to resemble Heath Ledger’s portrayal of the Joker.

  59. H B Bear

    Woof woof. Worth a look for a magnificent dummy spit by Ellen Fanning in Correspondence. Teh Dumb gets star billing this week. The rest of the co-op hardly gets a mention.

  60. Confused Old Misfit

    Lielani Clarke: You’re not smart. You’re young and stupid. You think you’re making a statement. The only message you’re putting out there is “Jesus Christ! Another drunken abbo!”

  61. H B Bear

    Zoe Daniel might have to have her kids file her top-and-tail tonight.

  62. DrBeauGan

    The word conservative used to mean stodgy old fart, and still does in some quarters. Which means Cory Bernardi has two very different demographics, the old style and the IT conservatives. Getting more of the second is important, but not easy, because Cory himself seems to be the SOF conservative.

  63. .

    Stone also worked on the campaign to elect the Sheriff of Broward County.

    Let that sink in.

    An anti-gun nutter Dem.

    Priorities Americans:

    In the 1980’s he was investigated for 10 incidents by Fort Lauderdale Police Department Internal Affairs division. The incidents included 6 accusations of “excessive or unnecessary force”, shooting at a drug suspect

    Wow, sounds bloody intense.

    Israel was cleared of all wrongdoing.

    Well that’s good.

    and for using profanity.

    Words fail me. Let’s investigate this guy for shooting suspects and excessive force. Oh, and swearing.

  64. OK, another legal question:
    What if I have an 8×10 colour glossy photo of a girl who may, or may not have, reached reasonably stratospheric heights in the Australian parliamentary system engaged in a sordid movie with a meth fired gerbil up her arse while fisting a donkey, can the police demand I open the safe?

  65. DrBeauGan

    Sounds like Fredo.

    Fredo Corleone or Fredo Santana? It makes a difference.

  66. Mark from Melbourne

    You must be one of the new style conservatives, then.

    Not really. I would – to use your terms – term myself a SOF with an appreciation for language… however fruity.

    But your underlying point is well made.

  67. calli

    “F**k you white dogs. I’m smart not dumb. I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”

    None of them include Grammar 101.

  68. DrBeauGan

    MfM, much may be forgiven for a sense of humour.

  69. DrBeauGan

    None of them include Grammar 101.

    I’m sure she’s speaking excellent criol, Calli.

  70. Mark from Melbourne

    MfM, much may be forgiven for a sense of humour.

    True, dat.

  71. mh

    I would guess that Americanisms have crept into our political speak. Everything was conservative vs liberal over there. However the term ‘left’ is now often used as a replacement for liberal in the US, which I don’t think it was say 20 years ago.

  72. Roger

    None of them include Grammar 101.

    Grammar is a construct imposed by the white ruling class to exclude the (insert putative oppressed sub-group here) from knowledge and power.

  73. Mark from Melbourne

    Roger, you forgot :-

    (a) patriarchy;
    (b) believe the woman; and
    (c) gender is a social construct.

  74. Stimpson J. Cat

    Roger Stone has a long history working with Reagan, Nixon and Trump.

    It’s his long history of plastic surgery that concerns me.
    If he takes off his hat in the sun he would f$cking melt.

  75. DrBeauGan

    The oppressed subgroup I inserted was the ignorant and stupid, Roger.

  76. Elle

    …a meth fired gerbil up her arse while fisting a donkey, can the police demand I open the safe?

    I’d hazard a guess that everything is wide open in that there place anyhoo!

  77. Stimpson J. Cat

    The word Conservative means Failure.

    Look at the last 30 years and tell me I’m wrong.

    The word Trump means Success and Big Hands.

  78. Drink-Up Socrates

    The Republicans always had the option of declaring the whole thing a poorly organised stunt and proceeded to a vote.
    There would have been less overall damage, no oxygen for the liars, and much enhanced respect from the Republican base.
    A Trumpian strategy.

  79. Confused Old Misfit

    The word Conservative means Failure.
    Look at the last 30 years and tell me I’m wrong.
    The word Trump means Success and Big Hands.

    No sir, you are not wrong. And the reason for failure is not in the weakness of the ideology but in the pusillanimity of the defense of that ideology.
    Rather than engaging to win a war conservatives have engaged only to signal their virtue from the high moral plane from wich they refuse to lower themselves, thereby ensuring their extinction.
    If you want to win, you have to fight. Sometimes that means chucking out the Marquis of Queensbury and grabbing the bastards by the short and curlies and twisting them until they expire!

  80. thefrollickingmole

    I have an uncle who has impressed me with both his stupidity, and his cocksmanship.

    Apparently he had 2 mobile phones, one “family” one and another “burner” phone for his harem of floozies.

    Did I say harem, well, yes, 6 ladies of indeterminate virtue, apparently they didnt know about each other either.
    This isnt a bad effort for a 60 year old.

    Unfortunately he mixed up his phones and texted a floozy message from his burner phone which let the cat out of the bag.
    He might have got away with it except after explaining “my phone must have been hacked” he sent another message from the wrong phone.

    Its all unraveled about as you would expect and hes currently staying at his sisters house.
    He may be there for some time.

  81. Roger

    The oppressed subgroup I inserted was the ignorant and stupid, Roger.

    Who seem to gain ready access to our universities these days, DrBG, despite their ignorance of grammar and other primary tools of education.

    I note a media report this week stating that Australian universities have slipped in world rankings…again.

    The proffered solution from “experts”? More funding!

    Meanwhile, students who’ve earned their place and their parchment, be they black, white or brindle, find themselves with discount degrees.

  82. DrBeauGan

    No sir, you are not wrong. And the reason for failure is not in the weakness of the ideology but in the pusillanimity of the defense of that ideology.

    The problem is with the SOF conservatives, of whom Howard was an example. For them, when change came along, they didn’t try to look for the good bits and absorb them, they either absorbed the bad bits or hid under the bed.

  83. Dr Faustus

    For the Democrats, traducing Kavanaugh over his sex life is poetic revenge for his role in the Starr investigation into Cigar Bill Clinton’s perjury over his sweetly romantic affair with Monic Lewinsky.

    HuffPost snorks:

    Man Who Pushed To Ask Bill Clinton Sexually Explicit Questions Bemoans Dirty Politics

    Unfortunately for the Dems, there doesn’t appear to be a 1983 vintage semen-stained dress…

  84. BrettW

    Just when you thought you had enough of Clive Palmer he is now reviving his Titanic building plan. The article in the Courier Mail was by the Court Reporter. The CM probably has a reporter permanently assigned to Clive’s court cases.

    All he has to do now is say Townsville will be the ships home port and they will make him a MP for life.

  85. Mitch M.

    Mitch – Shouldn’t be a surprise. Neuroplasticity means slow and steady progress in brain training is feasible. Christians do a similar thing: experiential sanctification. You train yourself over a lifetime to behave a certain way. I’m sure there would be brain changes analogous to these people.

    I doubt there would be much interest in doing studies on Christians since we’re regarded lower than pig poo by the academic left these days.

    A friend of mine, an expert in such matters, advised me that he thinks these are neuro-diverse individuals, outliers, important people for human species survival and not representative of general human capacity. There is something to that. I think the neuro-plasticity thing is way overblown. Unlike the crap that passes for Buddhism these days in old style Buddhism it was recognised that few are prepared to such an arduous undertaking. However this isn’t about Buddhism, it is about the practice of meditation which can stand on its own without the need for the religious appendages. Many studies admittedly of dubious quality indicate considerable benefits can be derived from meditation. There is a very important difference with meditation and other forms of religious practice: meditation is about shutting down internal talk, about not thinking about metaphysics or religious figures, it is simply about training the mind. A meditating atheist is not a contradiction but a praying atheist is.

    BTW, one of the most famous studies in relation to dementia is the Nun’s study.

  86. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rather than engaging to win a war conservatives have engaged only to signal their virtue from the high moral plane from wich they refuse to lower themselves, thereby ensuring their extinction.

    Misfit – The problem you are missing is that the Right is for the rule of law and has a strong base of Judeo-Christian ethos.

    The Left don’t give a flying frig for the law. At the same time they’ve worked to colonize the institutions, which as we saw in the US includes the FBI, and as we see here the Victorian Police. Consequently the Right can’t apply the law to the lawless Left because the Left has suborned the legal system.

    Thus we’re snookered. The Right can’t do illegal direct action. Hence the Left has run riot. The endpoint of this is Venezuela and Zimbabwe of course, but I don’t see how that can be avoided while the Left is in this unscientific, economically nutty, lawless mindset. Civilization requires rule of law, period.

    In the US it is harder for the Left to get full control because all the impediments in the political system. So there’s a chance for the ordinary voters to get fed up and vote them out for a generation. The Left dares not start a revolution in the US because the Right has the guns, including the armed forces who overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

    Here we’re stuffed since we have no equivalent of the 2nd Amendment, while the ADF is being turned into a bunch of gender-fluid seat polishers.

  87. stackja

    Clarence Thomas forgotten?

  88. cohenite

    Misfit – The problem you are missing is that the Right is for the rule of law and has a strong base of Judeo-Christian ethos.

    Milo had a conversation with Bolt who castigated Milo for basically saying fuck and advocating kicking leftie arse, that is for being indecorous. I think Bolt is coming around but the point is the left cannot be thwarted or persuaded by reason or process. The left is about power and the West, except for the US has delegated power to the institutions which are now controlled by the left. Where would you start: the media, academia, bureaucracies, increasingly board rooms – which left wing stronghold is the biggest threat?

  89. Tel

    Misfit – The problem you are missing is that the Right is for the rule of law and has a strong base of Judeo-Christian ethos.

    Is it the rule of law, or is it slavish adherence to procedure?

    Let’s take an example of the ABC charter, clearly there’s a law (the charter was written by Parliament) and they have repeatedly broken their own charter, but from a procedural perspective no one can figure out how to create consequences. Do we choose to throw up hands and say, “Oh well, they get away with it” because if we do how can we tell ourselves we support the rule of law? The law itself is an essence, not persistently ticking boxes on forms.

  90. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Milo had a conversation with Bolt who castigated Milo for basically saying fuck and advocating kicking leftie arse, that is for being indecorous. I think Bolt is coming around but the point is the left cannot be thwarted or persuaded by reason or process. The left is about power and the West, except for the US has delegated power to the institutions which are now controlled by the left. Where would you start: the media, academia, bureaucracies, increasingly board rooms – which left wing stronghold is the biggest threat?

    Anyone who still thinks the left can be defeated with principles doesn’t realise that they have already lost.

  91. Confused Old Misfit

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2827135, posted on September 28, 2018 at 7:16 pm
    Amen Brother!

  92. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Is it the rule of law, or is it slavish adherence to procedure?

    The left have a slavish adherence to outcome, by any means.

  93. Confused Old Misfit

    The Right can’t do illegal direct action.

    It MUST learn.
    There is an argument to be made that the law, as it stands at present, is not the common law of the people but a concoction of the legal profession and a plethora of jurists of an overly leftist persuasion. Accepting this reasoning one can argue that the laws themselves are illegal and do not reflect or support the natural tendencies and demands of a free mankind.
    It follows then that no action or reaction to those who are defined as being outside the law need be defined as lawful.

  94. DrBeauGan

    It follows then that no action or reaction to those who are defined as being outside the law need be defined as lawful.

    I’m not much concerned with whether my actions are lawful, and greatly concerned with their morality. So what I want to know is, when do we start poking them in the snoots?

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Phew! That was a bumpy flight as the pilot suddenly veered sharply around a storm in tge Aegian and delivered us safely into Athens, where we are in transit to Cyprus, ironically going to fly back over Rhodes to get there; the only time-suitable flight Hairy could find. I hope the storm has passed by in the next hour or so.

    Yesterday we left the very Greek narrow-streeted town of Limnos, with its dominating acropolis rock and fortress build around its ancient temples and head down the island and then across it. As in Crete there was a massive chain of high mountains to be crossed. We came out not far from a place called Monolithos, where we hsd lunch high up overlooking a bay, and then frove to see the Monolithos castle. It’s rock is a true single monolith on which the Knights of St John, guys who really got around, built a fortress. Situated as it is, isolated between two islands, and sentinal to the mountainous backdrop, it was clearly a very ancient sacred site as well as a defensive one; church in the middle of the fortress echoes this tradition even though it is a current-era build. We then followed what Hairy thought was the coast road on to oyr next night’s accommodation, at a resort hotel near the airport. This road, in increasingly bad condition, getting narrower, decended some precipitous cliff edges with no guard rails ane i became increasingly nervous about meeting a mad Greek driver in a big van coming up and forcing us over the cliff. This can’t be the main road up to Rhodes, I wail, and Hairy has to agree, for we see a dilapidated sign saying ‘to the caves’. We turn around and go up the precipitous 5km back, with Hairy comfortingly saying this time we’ll only be forced into the cliff or the ditch.

    Later we spend more than an hour at the site of ancient Kalmiros, another of the three city states that merged to form the Hellenistic trading powerhouse of Rhodes, all under the protection of Zeus, Athena, and Helios, the sun god, the special and earliest protector of the island.. The ruins at Kalmiros (once Camillos,a redolent ‘old Celtic’ name for me) are impressive still, restored sufficiently to pick out the hillside houses of the nobles and the entry temple ‘to all the gods’. Crowning it all was the temple of Athena high on the top of this wide sloping gully which leads down to the sea and a place still called Porto Antico. Rather good. In the heat of the sfternoon we felt we had earned our swim when we got to the hotel.

    Last nite we ate Greek at a place called Zorbas, and not as touristy as the name might suggest. Even there though the water said to Hairy that although they were proud of their traditional bean stew, rarely offered elsewhere, he would have to find some old grandma somewhere to make him a traditional bean soup such as he had as a young man in these islands. He settled thus for the bean stew.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Right can’t do illegal direct action.
    ..
    It MUST learn.

    Misfit – Two thousand years of history, philosophy and moral basis is impossible to overturn. Revolution ALWAYS comes from the Left. Rarely coups like Pinochet’s arguably come from the Right, but only in spite of the moral basis for the Right.

    The real danger in my view is the Left since the turn of the millennium has acquired a pseudomoral imperative that they never had before: global warming. They can now claim they are saving the world and justify their totalitarian abuses using it. The fact that global warming isn’t really happening in any dangerous extent is immaterial to their ethos.

  97. DrBeauGan

    Revolution ALWAYS comes from the Left. Rarely coups like Pinochet’s arguably come from the Right, but only in spite of the moral basis for the Right.

    Does this mean I never get to punch a lefty in the snoot? I got the idea from m0nty, does that help?

  98. DrBeauGan

    M0nty says punching Nazis is good.

    M0nty is a Nazi.

    Therefore, punching m0nty is good.

    This is a sillygism.

  99. Tel

    Anyone who still thinks the left can be defeated with principles doesn’t realise that they have already lost.

    That’s crap, principles have worked well in the past, and they no doubt will work well in future. Here’s the things holding back current “conservatives”:

    Conservatism itself has no principles, it’s merely whatever the others were doing 30 years ago (in some cases a bit longer), which is to say a general reluctance to change. Sure, it’s handy to have someone else to test things before you start doing it, but don’t confuse that with a “moral compass” or anything.

    Understand that even should the conservatives find some principles, things like “justice” can never be precisely encoded, you must accept that the world of procedural operations is an approximation designed to get most things right most of the time, but ultimately you need to use your own judgement for the fringe cases. A good procedural system only has a small number of fringe cases (not zero). Most procedural systems also depend on the bulk of people doing the “right thing” for the majority of the time so there’s no guarantee that a good institution cannot be infiltrated. For the sake of the principle you might need to throw away the rotten institution. The principle is an abstract thing, the institution is a concrete approximation of that abstract thing. Don’t mix them up.

  100. DrBeauGan

    Conservatism itself has no principles, it’s merely whatever the others were doing 30 years ago

    You are using the Stodgy Old Fart definition of a conservative. This obviously doesn’t apply to IT or anyone who laughs at his posts. Most people here in fact.

  101. candy

    Principles are at the heart of conservatism. Judge Kavanaugh won through on the principle of honesty.

  102. Tel

    Rarely coups like Pinochet’s arguably come from the Right, but only in spite of the moral basis for the Right.

    Pinochet was never involved in any coup, although there had been a failed coup earlier. The “Chamber of Deputies” issued Pinochet with instructions to restore constitutional government after President Allende had been expanding his own personal power. Also they were afraid of communist takeover (possibly rightly or wrongly, but that’s what they thought was happening).

    Whether Pinochet did a good job of following his instructions is somewhat arguable, but it would be better described as a “constitutional crisis” than a coup as such, because Pinochet did have legal authority behind him. Mostly the problem was that he took a very long time indeed to return the country to constitutional government (although eventually he did), and he killed people without going through any formal court system. Maybe you could call it a retrospective coup because Pinochet had authority to take power, but not to hang onto power.

  103. DrBeauGan

    The trouble with this blog is that most people here rely on facts and reason to make their points. Which is why I bless the Doomlord for allowing m0nty on. You should have noticed that m0nty, like all lefties, is totally impervious to facts and reason.

    So the idea that we can defeat lefties using facts and reason is clearly false. I’m not saying we should abandon them ourselves, but they make a very poor weapon against lefties. M0nty shows that every day.

    I think it’s long past time to try something else. A punch in the snoot speaks to me.

  104. Tel

    You are using the Stodgy Old Fart definition of a conservative.

    Hey, I feel generous.

  105. Death Giraffe

    The rule of law is useless to us.
    Thd progressives have already subverted the institutions.
    Like a virus taking over a cell and churning out replicas of themselves.
    Was the rule of law of any use to those with conservative, Christian values in ancient Rome?
    No! The Romans feed those with our moral values to the lions in accordance to THEIR laws.
    The authorities are not your friends now, if you have traditional, Christian-based values, such as not killing children and not destroying other people’s marriages. This includes you atheist libertarians who don’t really want to live in the hunger games.

  106. John Constantine

    “Moreover, China’s loans to Venezuela are particularly opaque. CSIS says that China has often routed its investment in Venezuela through Hong Kong to undisclosed locations. And oil-for-cash deals are especially difficult to track. Countries that overly dependent on oil exports have historically been prone to corruption, but China’s effort at obscuring the money trail to Venezuela has added “yet another layer to the entrenched corruption of the Maduro regime,” CSIS wrote in its report. “The international community should be skeptical of the seemingly endless amounts of untraceable money pouring into a country with a history of corruption, deep-state narcotrafficking, and without checks and balances.”

    That dirty money is then spent on military weapons, rather than food and other essentials for the Venezuelan people. Even as the country crumbles and people go hungry, CSIS says that Venezuela ranks 21st in the world in terms of military expenditures, and first in Latin America. And all that hardware is often put to use against its own people.”

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Venezuelas-Oil-Sector-May-Soon-Have-New-Owners.html

    The chicom supplied precursor chemicals are used by the Mexican cartels to create Americas opiod epidemic, and the chicoms are propping up a genuine Narcostate in corrupt Venezuela, pouring illegal drugs into America.

    Forget Russia tampering in American politics, the new opium wars are being waged by the chicoms for profit against America.

    Best thing that can happen for flyover country is for Trump to end the war on marijuana and make the chicoms nervous about being a narcostate.

    Comrades.

  107. Conservatism itself has no principles, it’s merely whatever the others were doing 30 years ago (in some cases a bit longer), which is to say a general reluctance to change. Sure, it’s handy to have someone else to test things before you start doing it, but don’t confuse that with a “moral compass” or anything.

    I think that is a fair summation of a type of conservatism but not of the conservatism of Burke, Chesterton or Oakeshott. Here is a conservative principle: Do remove the fence until you fully understand its purpose. Here’s another: There is no perfection this side of eternity.

  108. Tel

    Was the rule of law of any use to those with conservative, Christian values in ancient Rome?

    Christian values were about as radical as you could get in ancient Rome. Jεwish values were bad enough, and after rebellious Jεws the Romans were really fed up with another of these monotheistic cults.

  109. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Conservatism itself has no principles

    Disagree, Conservatism does have principles. Various people have attempted to elucidate them. You are effectively referring to the tradition principle.

    There is no principle that will defeat democratic socialism. They take the moral high ground with sounds good and feels good propositions. They have infested the institutions begining with education. We have an entire generation that is brainwashed into blindly accepting socialist tactics as gospel. They have trashed our birthrates to below replacement and committing generational genocide with virtually no resistance. They are aggressively replacing us with pliant 3rd world barbarians they believe they can easily control, not an unreasonable proposition given the average low IQ.

    What will defeat socialism is action, hard, tough, brutal, ruthless action. If these action are hindered by principles, it is like rules of engagement that prevent you from winning a war, think afghanistan, and currently that is exactly the situation we are in.

    We are losing by virtue of becoming irrelevant minorities. We are losing by virtue of the institutions being corrupted into slavishly pushing cultural marxism.

    No conservative principle will reverse this.

  110. Nick

    I think it’s long past time to try something else. A punch in the snoot speaks to me.

    Yep, hurl their own rules and standards back at them.

  111. Robber Baron

    “F**k you white dogs. I’m smart not dumb. I got three more degrees than you’ll ever have.”

    $30 billion per year…$30 billion! Surely just setting fire to it will be a better way to spend $30 billion.

  112. Infidel Tiger

    Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.
    G. K. Chesterton

    To me this is the essence of conservatism.

    Jeez Louise have we knocked over some carefully built fences in the last 50 years.

  113. mh

    You should have noticed that m0nty, like all lefties, is totally impervious to facts and reason.

    Last night’s Senate hearings at least shut him up. Or he’s speaking with ‘beach friends’.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2827075, posted on September 28, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    Just listening to the Kav’s testimony. He sounds very convincing and a very decent, likeable person. He likes beer.

    I love it that he escalated on “beer drinking”.
    Paraphrasing …

    Yep.
    I like beer.
    But there is a massive red line between drinking beer and sexual assualt.
    I have drunk a few beers over the journey, but never, ever assaulted anyone.”

    I could almost hear the Homer Simpsons and Barney Gumbels in middle America cheering and fist-pumping.

  115. Tel

    What will defeat socialism is action, hard, tough, brutal, ruthless action. If these action are hindered by principles, it is like rules of engagement that prevent you from winning a war, think afghanistan, and currently that is exactly the situation we are in.

    I do think about Afghanistan: the British lost, the Russians lost and the Americans are pretty much on the verge of admitting defeat but it might take a bit longer. If “action” is all that’s required then tell me that the same British Empire who put Boer women and children into concentration camps was not ruthless enough? Tell me the same Soviets who churned though millions of their own people as expendable work units or for military purposes were not ruthless enough?

    To fully subjugate the Afghans would take generations of brutality and mass killing. The people of the Western nations don’t want to do this, especially not in the name of some moronic nation building. Even if you did go ahead with that, you would call it what? Freedom?? You would be imposing more socialism than the socialists themselves.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    I could almost hear the Homer Simpsons and Barney Gumbels in middle America cheering and fist-pumping.

    Damn right. Thought the same thing.

    We need to get back to governing for Moe’s Tavern’s America and not the freaks.

    Lenny, Carl, Moe, Barney, Homer… we got your backs!

  117. Tel

    Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.
    G. K. Chesterton

    To me this is the essence of conservatism.

    You forgot the other half: once someone else comes and smashes the fence, instead of quietly rebuilding the missing fence conservatives will think about it a while and then staunchly defend the absence of a fence, because hey, don’t go building a fence until you know the reason it was knocked down.

    In other words, resistance to change, which is what I’ve already said.

  118. DrBeauGan

    Tell me the same Soviets who churned though millions of their own people as expendable work units or for military purposes were not ruthless enough?

    Stalin wouldn’t have taken Afghani shit. His successors did.

  119. Infidel Tiger

    I agree Tel. We have seen much of that in the last few years too.

    The world is in a state of flux. Hug your kids, love your wife and drink great booze.

  120. Boambee John

    Misfit at 1928

    Accepting this reasoning one can argue that the laws themselves are illegal and do not reflect or support the natural tendencies and demands of a free mankind.

    Check out recent statements by the ACTU woman on the subject of disobeying “illegal” laws. Use their own words against them.

  121. Death Giraffe

    Don’t get confused by the terminology.
    It is very simple.
    Conservative = Traditional = Judeo- Christian = love, charity, individual responsibility,
    Progressive= Roman = Pagan = liberal = abortion, divorce, collective punishment, perversion. sadism.

  122. DrBeauGan

    The world is in a state of flux.

    This gives a huge advantage to the thinking man. And it clobbers the stodgy old farts, most of whom are lefties these days.

  123. Death Giraffe

    Still expect dems to try to throw some curveballs before the vote.
    The hag will be interviewed by sympathetic journos.

  124. Stimpson J. Cat

    Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.
    G. K. Chesterton

    We only need fences because of Women.
    Stimpson J. Cat.

  125. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2827183, posted on September 28, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    Don’t get confused by the terminology.
    It is very simple.
    Conservative = Traditional = Judeo- Christian = love, charity, individual responsibility,
    Progressive= Roman = Pagan = liberal = abortion, divorce, collective punishment, perversion. sadism.

    This is a good set of definitions. I think much better than Tel’s.

  126. mh

    BREAKING: We Have The Votes

    With the Senate Judiciary Committee holding a vote at 9:30 A.M. tomorrow, a Senate insider has told Townhall that Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and the votes to be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. Sens. Flake (R-AZ), Collins (R-ME), Murkowski (R-AK), and Manchin (D-WV) are expected to vote in favor of Kavanaugh. All the Republicans are voting yes. Also, in the rumor mill, several Democrats may break ranks and back Kavanaugh. That’s the ball game, folks. …

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/27/breaking-we-have-the-votes-n2523402

  127. calli

    The world is in a state of flux.

    As it has always been.

    We just get to watch the juicy bits on tv.

  128. DrBeauGan

    Can we agree that when your two-year old acts up in the supermarket, a clip around the ear or a smack on the bottom is indicated. Women favour psychological methods which can leave the child warped for life, but they are just wrong. Stimpy will confirm this.

    The same applies to m0nty and lefties in general; like the two-year old, they haven’t mastered logical thinking, and the only response that has a hope of improving his behaviour is a clip around the ear.

    JC, I see this as your responsibility.

  129. Boambee John

    mh
    #2827189, posted on September 28, 2018 at 8:56 pm
    BREAKING: We Have The Votes

    Is m0nty currently rolled up in his security blankie, crying, and mainlining on Krispy Kremes?

  130. mh

    Is m0nty currently rolled up in his security blankie, crying, and mainlining on Krispy Kremes?

    Monty wants you to know he is discussing it with beach friends.

  131. Tel

    Monty wants you to know he is discussing it with beach friends.

    One of them is a floating sponge and the other appears to be some sort of starfish.

  132. Armadillo

    I’m still a bit perplexed about last nights episode. Kavanaugh crying and so on was unbefitting of a high court judge. Mind you, he didn’t get much support from the supposed Republicans (bar one). The chick who they hired to cross examine Ford was an absolute dud. She should have roasted her. It was a very timid performance.

  133. Armadillo

    Ford and her bullshit should have been comprehensively nailed to the wall.

  134. Armadillo

    I would have liked to seen a far more aggressive approach. “Softly softly” doesn’t work with the left.

  135. Leigh Lowe

    mh

    #2827189, posted on September 28, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    BREAKING: We Have The Votes

    Once it is confirmed at 51, a bunch of vulnerable Dems will jump.
    It could be a Kavalanche.

  136. Death Giraffe

    The prosecuter chick was perfect.
    Under orders to not brutalize the Ford, she elicited all the information required to seriously question her honesty.
    Kavanaugh was perfect.He rammed it up Feinstain.
    If he had played it stoic he woukd have lost.

  137. Tel

    The chicom navy park a boat of peace in Venezuela. Landlord making an inspection?.

    That reminds me, Mean Gene had an episode on Tom Woods to continue his take down of Joseph Stiglitz.

    Gene explains that late 2007, Stiglitz met personally with Chávez and it was around the time that the economy was turning to the worse. It could have been a very key pivotal meeting if Stiglitz had said, “You have done OK so far but you really have to back off on price controls and take care to avoid systemic moral hazard, give the market a chance to recover”. Instead Stiglitz seems to have encouraged Chávez to do more of the same! Like, they were literally at the edge of the pit and Stiglitz pushed him in.

    Shit I didn’t realize quite how deeply person this situation was.

  138. sdfc

    Hey JC, if you’re around. The FOMC projections suggest they reckon there’s 125pts of hikes to go, do you think they’ll get there?

  139. NickKava

    I hope Kavanaugh royally fucks the left from the Bench, for the next 40 years.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    Citing credibility issues and the #MeToo movement, the influential Catholic Jesuit magazine America has rescinded its endorsement of its once-favorite Catholic son, Judge Brett Kavanaugh. “There are many good reasons to support the nomination of a qualified judge who is committed to a textualist interpretation of the Constitution to the Supreme Court,” the magazine editors wrote after the hearings ended Thursday. But they went on to say they don’t want to be associated with a man whose sexual-assault allegations may never be completely put to rest. “His nomination has also become a referendum on how to address allegations of sexual assault,” the Jesuits wrote. “We continue to support the nomination of judges according to such principles—but Judge Kavanaugh is not the only such nominee available.”

    Catholics get your shit together.

    We Anglicans have already made this milquetoast faggotism our wheelhouse. Stay in your lane!

  141. Death Giraffe

    You have to remember, Arma, they weren’t only appealing to us.
    They had to bring “feelz” RINO squishes under extreme pressure.
    Mission accomplished.

  142. .

    “There are many good reasons to support the nomination of a qualified judge who is committed to a textualist interpretation of the Constitution to the Supreme Court,”

    None of which they agree with.

  143. Siltstone

    I am not good at the linky thing but it does not really matter:
    It’s fairly horrifying to consider how easy it was for a woman to be convicted and executed for witchcraft in the 17th century—and just how little power she had to prove her innocence.

    Updated:
    It’s fairly horrifying to consider how easy it was for a man to be convicted and persecuted for alleged lust in the 21st century—and just how little power he had to prove his innocence.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2827210, posted on September 28, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Citing credibility issues and the #MeToo movement, the influential Catholic Jesuit magazine America has rescinded its endorsement of its once-favorite Catholic son, Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

    As an altar boy, I was abused by every Jesuit priest in Melbourne.
    So sell your assets and pay me the lot.
    What’s that?
    You want evidence?
    Fuck off! That is so 20th century.
    Pay up, arseholes.

  145. Death Giraffe

    Kavanaugh’s missus was perfect.
    Smoking hot, and looking heart broken all the way through.

  146. Stimpson J. Cat

    Citing credibility issues and the #MeToo movement, the influential Catholic Jesuit magazine America has rescinded its endorsement of its once-favorite Catholic son, Judge Brett Kavanaugh. “There are many good reasons to support the nomination of a qualified judge who is committed to a textualist interpretation of the Constitution to the Supreme Court,” the magazine editors wrote after the hearings ended Thursday. But they went on to say they don’t want to be associated with a man whose sexual-assault allegations may never be completely put to rest. “His nomination has also become a referendum on how to address allegations of sexual assault,” the Jesuits wrote. “We continue to support the nomination of judges according to such principles—but Judge Kavanaugh is not the only such nominee available.”

    STFU until you remove your degenerate Pope you f$cking pathetic whining Catholics.
    And don’t say it has no precedent.
    You removed the last one.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    F$cking Catholics get in here and explain this sh$t.

    Jesuits should be excommunicated for this outrage.

  148. Armadillo

    Under orders to not brutalize the Ford, she elicited all the information required to seriously question her honesty.

    No DG. She should have been called out for her lies and inconsistencies. It was more like a school girl chat.

    Kavanaugh was perfect.He rammed it up Feinstain

    He cried like a girl.

    You can’t play their game. Trump has worked that out. People want leaders, not pussy cats who are too afraid to say something that might offend.

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Just remember, only 2 weeks ago the story of the day was that Kavanaugh’s blisteringly hot staffer was flashing white power signs.

  150. Nick

    Fairfax Media spoke to several students who said Ms Edwards told the girls the length of their shorts was making male staff and students feel uncomfortable, could lead to the girls being judged as promiscuous and may put them at risk of sexual assault.

    Mother Sharon Robson said parents were “furious”.

    “It’s victim blaming,” Ms Robson said.

  151. Tel

    Citing credibility issues and the #MeToo movement, the influential Catholic Jesuit magazine America has rescinded its endorsement of its once-favorite Catholic son, Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

    There’s a Chinese proverb: “Point at a deer but call it a horse.” (指鹿為馬; zhǐlù-wéimǎ).

    The Wikipedia translation is “deliberate misrepresentation for ulterior purposes”. See also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao

  152. Death Giraffe

    No DG. She should have been called out for her lies and inconsistencies. It was more like a school girl chat.

    ..
    You break her open, you don’t know what’s going to vomit out.
    Could be something that totally discredits her, or it could be something that makes you look like a c*nt.
    You ellicit the information required to demolish her in the media afterwards.
    More safe, more eyeballs watching, more effective.

  153. Death Giraffe

    No DG. She should have been called out for her lies and inconsistencies. It was more like a school girl chat.

    ..
    You break her open, you don’t know what’s going to vomit out.
    Could be something that totally discredits her, or it could be something that makes you look like a shit.
    You ellicit the information required to demolish her in the media afterwards.
    More safe, more eyeballs watching, more effective.

  154. Armadillo

    People are seriously sick of the “nanny state”. They whisper it under their breath these days. When they find someone courageous enough to follow, they will. Trump is a good example.

  155. Death Giraffe

    No DG. She should have been called out for her lies and inconsistencies.

    ..
    Would not have worked.
    Would have given RINOs the excuse they wanted to not vote for him.
    Think of it as an ensemble performance.
    The prosecuter played her role.

  156. Bushkid

    What’s the bet there are a lot of Cats & Kityns with a teenage past more hormonal than Judge Kav’s?

    Yep, all true, and it was a ton of fun too!

  157. Armadillo

    The prosecuter played her role.

    You need to look up the definition of “prosecutor”, DG.

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    These are future lawyers, let it sink in for a while

  159. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Still waiting for which conservative principles are going to reverse the rot and the inevitable death of western culture as we know it by end of this century.

  160. Armadillo

    She didn’t nail Ford on anything. It was a pathetic performance.

  161. Death Giraffe

    It wasn’t a trial and the prosecutor wasn’t a prosecutor.
    She was asking questions on behalf of individual. senators.

  162. Armadillo

    Note that the Republicans didn’t let her continue questioning after lunch? It was turning into a friendly school girl chat.

  163. Leo G

    “There are many good reasons to support the nomination of a qualified judge who is committed to a textualist interpretation of the Constitution to the Supreme Court,” the magazine editors wrote after the hearings ended Thursday. But they went on to say they don’t want to be associated with a man whose sexual-assault allegations may never be completely put to rest.

    Does that imply that the Catholic Church is requiring Catholic voters to apply a religious Test as a qualification to an Office and public Trust under the United States, in breach of Article Six of the United States Constitution?

  164. Stimpson J. Cat

    OK, I’ve just watched her testimony.
    She has the exact same tell for lying that I have, whenever she smiles.
    And that voice was entirely forced.
    She’s definitely a psychologist.
    Mental Illness….. Confirmed!!!

  165. Steve trickler

    This story will stick around in your head for a long time.



  166. Armadillo

    IT should have been given the job. Considering his fear of flying with a pilot who doesn’t use a “knife and fork” to eat a meal, he probably wouldn’t have got there. Understandable.

  167. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    People are seriously sick of the “nanny state”.

    Then why do half still vote for it? The only thing that saved Trump was the college voting system, marxists have swamped the urban districts with compliant peasantry and the uniparty outside trump has no intention to stop it, GDP you know, white people are moving out, ageing and dying off.

  168. Armadillo

    Black and Hispanic votes are flipping, Zippy. Self interest is paramount, regardless of the colour of your skin.

  169. DrBeauGan

    People are seriously sick of the “nanny state”.

    Not true. Plenty of people find a life of slavery very congenial. No thought, no responsibility.

  170. mh

    And that voice was entirely forced.

    The Britney Spears voice was a mis-match with her appearance. A certain clientele might find it appealing, but not the right card to play when you are facing a televised Senate hearing.

  171. Armadillo

    “Victimhood” as a political tool works only for so long. This is where we are at. Everyone is a victim at this stage, because it suits them to be so. Everyone is being oppressed.

    Optimists in this world are a rare find. They are there. They just need to be unleashed.

  172. DrBeauGan

    Dillo, the time to smash blasey ford and the democrats is after Kavanaugh has been confirmed, not before.

  173. Oh come on

    Via Drudge:

    ‘MURPHY BROWN’ Revival Another Disaster For CBS…

    Not surprising. Murphy Brown is 40yo Hollywood social engineering. They’re just presenting the same old crap, hoping to attract a vast audience that nominally approves, but doesn’t watch network TV, and feels no nostalgia for the original show.

    All in all, the zeitgeist has well and truly moved on. Of course Murphy Brown failed.

  174. Mitch M.

    “Victimhood” as a political tool works only for so long. This is where we are at. Everyone is a victim at this stage, because it suits them to be so. Everyone is being oppressed.

    I think that tide is already turning but I am an optimist.

  175. cohenite

    Just rewatched 3 Days of the Condor; hilarious finale where goody 2-shoes bob redford pulls the ace out his arse to confound the CIA by showing him the NYT. Can just see the scene redone today as the head of the CIA, brennan, pulling the conservative hero inside and feeding him into the printers as bezos looks on approvingly.

  176. Armadillo

    the time to smash blasey ford and the democrats is after Kavanaugh has been confirmed, not before.

    Doc. That’s probably 100% correct. It just sickens me the games that they play.

  177. Oh come on

    There are a bazillion shows with edgy leftist heroes these days. The character of Murphy Brown broke ground by being a single working mother, pondering abortion etc. Yeah that’s pretty standard TV fare now.

    Roseanne rebooted was interesting because it wasn’t standard TV fare – some of its characters held opinions that weren’t lineball with the coastal elites.

  178. Mitch M.

    Not true. Plenty of people find a life of slavery very congenial. No thought, no responsibility.

    Libertarians don’t understand human psychology. People don’t desire freedom and many fear it. What they want most is security and are typically prepared to sacrifice freedom to increase their feeling of security.

  179. DrBeauGan

    I think that tide is already turning but I am an optimist.

    #metoo. Anyone who tries to oppress me will regret it. And I’m a minority. In fact there’s only one of me, for which sensible people are heartily glad.

  180. DrBeauGan

    Doc. That’s probably 100% correct. It just sickens me the games that they play.

    #metoo. Any decent person would be sickened by what we have seen.

  181. Oh come on

    You’re probably not as unusual as you think, Dr B.

  182. hzhousewife

    Can we agree that when your two-year old acts up in the supermarket, a clip around the ear or a smack on the bottom is indicated. Women favour psychological methods which can leave the child warped for life, but they are just wrong. Stimpy will confirm this.

    I was a coward in the supermarket today. Brat of a fat 8 yr old boy was bad-naturedly talking very loudly at his mother saying things like “Yes, Mother, I will stay away from the sweeties, no Mother, I have not put anything in the trolley that is not allowed” etc etc, perfect example of JP’s dictum of never allow your kids to do things that embarrass or upset you. I SHOULD have told the kid he was being a Class A Brat, and given the mother JP’s website. but I didn’t. Kid will grow up to hound me as a Parking Inspector or something. He’ll never make a Judge.

  183. Mark A

    Stimpy, Jesuits are to the Caths. what the Labor party is to the union movement.

    Their political wing.

  184. DrBeauGan

    What I saw in the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings was a bunch of people, the democrats, to whom power is everything and truth is nothing.

    My contempt for them is overwhelming.

    And m0nty is one of them.

  185. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I think that tide is already turning but I am an optimist.

    I don’t think the tide is turning yet, but the predicament is being acted on by a very small number.

    Unfortunately in a democracy, the communists invariably get back into power and roll back the changes.

    The education system needs to be disinfected, nobody is doing it, we have a generation that have been brainwashed with cultural marxism. The uniparty still in most countries adheres to mass migration as a solution for catastrophic birthrates.

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    James Comey
    James Comey
    @Comey
    Small lies matter, even about yearbooks. From the standard jury instruction: “If a witness is shown knowingly to have testified falsely about any material matter, you have a right to distrust such witness’ other testimony and you may reject all the testimony of that witness …”
    9:32 AM · Sep 28, 2018

  187. JC

    sdfc
    #2827208, posted on September 28, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Hey JC, if you’re around. The FOMC projections suggest they reckon there’s 125pts of hikes to go, do you think they’ll get there?

    SDFC

    I agree with Sumner. The fed is pro-cyclical and as is conventional for the Fed, they will raise rates until they cause another recession. Nothing’s changed. It’s all the Fed knows what to do. The yield curve is very worrying in my mind.

  188. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2827271, posted on September 28, 2018 at 11:07 pm
    James Comey
    James Comey
    @Comey
    Small lies matter, even about yearbooks. From the standard jury instruction: “If a witness is shown knowingly to have testified falsely about any material matter, you have a right to distrust such witness’ other testimony and you may reject all the testimony of that witness …”
    9:32 AM · Sep 28, 2018

    Good grief.

    Which witness was he talking about? Blasey Ford?

  189. Armadillo

    It occurs to me that there is a definate theme going on within politics. Pessimism seems to be the order of the day. Climate change is a good example. So are greedy banks. Refugees. Terrorism is linked. The church. Greedy politicians. Bigger Goverment to fix stuff. More police and lawyers. Victims abound.

    All the while, we remain silent and dumbfounded. The strange “tipping point” will be when taxation rises to a point when alcohol and smokes become unaffordable. Race tracks will close (they already are). Pubs and clubs will close (especially bowling clubs). It’s getting to that point already.

    A decent downturn in the economy will see that come to fruition.

  190. max

    So if a woman accuses a man of sexual assault it would be wrong to go to her school year book to dig up evidence about her character, but when a man is accused of sexual assault it’s fine.

    I think I understand.

  191. .

    People don’t desire freedom and many fear it.

    …and they don’t know where wealth or dignity comes from.

  192. .

    Let’s hope a shit tonne of money is lost on Murphy Brown, Season 11.

  193. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2827276, posted on September 28, 2018 at 11:23 pm
    BON get in here and explain these Nazi base neutrinos to me please –
    Particles coming from the ground in Antarctica have physicists puzzled.

    You need Anne to explain it, stimpmeister. She can tell you about emissions from a spaceship that has been under the Antarctic ice for ten million years.

  194. Snoopy

    God that Chris Wallace is an insufferable xunt. But ABA! LOL.

  195. Infidel

    Flake’s a yes.

    Damn bitches. We are winning bigly.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    Flake’s a yes.

    Damn bitches. We are winning bigly.

  197. Cpt Seahawks

    Massive blow to women. It’s up to the good ones to fix this particular dog’s breakfast.

  198. Mitch M.

    What I saw in the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings was a bunch of people, the democrats, to whom power is everything and truth is nothing.

    “Ground truth”. That is, establishing the facts. The contradictions in her statements do not support that ground truth has been established. “Pseudo-Intimacy”, surprising as it may seem, is common in genuine rape and typically missing in false allegations. It refers to the rapist attempting to kiss and huddle, as if the rapist is actually trying to emulate a consensual romantic sexual encounter. BTW, that challenges the common interpretation that rape is about power. False allegations ignore this component because they make up their account on the basis of what they see on TV. Detail: in true rape the woman often provides considerable levels of detail. I dug this up on the fly by rushed reading in a few peer reviewed journal articles. I’m sure there is much more that could have been presented in this case. I didn’t watch the hearing because I expected it to be a media circus but my impression is none of these 3 fundamental issues were addressed. If I am wrong please advise.

  199. Snoopy

    Spare a thought for Mrs Monty. It can’t be fun having a ranga sitting cross-legged on the bedroom floor rocking back and forward and moaning with the lights off.

  200. Snoopy

    Democrats lead with their best. Vietnam war hero Senator Richard Blumenthal asking to subpoena Mark Judge and other “sexual assault survivors”.

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    You need Anne to explain it

    It’s not gardening or cooking or ironing.
    Don’t be ridiculous.

    I want science, I ask scientists.

    It’s like if I want to count, I use a calculator.

    Same thing.

  202. Snoopy

    A motion to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination at 1.30 pm carried 11:8.

  203. Armadillo

    Snoopy, do you have a link? Ta.

  204. Death Giraffe

    Dickhead Feinstain repeating Kavanaugh’s best lines.
    As if they play against him!

  205. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2825793, posted on September 27, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    OK Monty time to put up or shut up.
    Let’s make a bet.
    If Kavanagh is confirmed, you shave your head and mail the hair to me via JC after he confirms it is yours in a postpak.
    If Kavanagh is not confirmed, every post I make on here for a month has to begin with “Monty Is My Master. “

    Last Chance Monty.
    Clocks ticking.

  206. Death Giraffe

    If it’s hair you’re after Stimpson, I’ll send you some.

  207. Infidel tiger

    A motion to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination at 1.30 pm carried 11:8.

    Pretty sure Booker and Harris refused to vote.

    Both are trying to out xunt each other to become the 2020 nominee.

  208. Mitch M.

    Did the hearing address these issues from the relevant literature?

    “Ground truth”. That is, establishing the facts. The contradictions in her statements do not support that ground truth has been established. “Pseudo-Intimacy”, surprising as it may seem, is common in genuine fape and typically missing in false allegations. It refers to the fapist attempting to kiss and huddle, as if the fapist is actually trying to emulate a consensual romantic sexual encounter. BTW, that challenges the common interpretation that fape is about power. False allegations ignore this component because they make up their account on the basis of what they see on TV. Detail: in true fape the woman often provides considerable levels of detail. I dug this up on the fly by rushed reading in a few peer reviewed journal articles. I’m sure there is much more that could have been presented in this case. I didn’t watch the hearing because I expected it to be a media circus but my impression is none of these 3 fundamental issues were addressed. If I am wrong please advise.

  209. Infidel tiger

    Feinstein is one evil bitch.

  210. The funniest thing I’ve seen today:

    Damn that is funny.

  211. Snoopy

    Feinstein’s staffer is a hottie, eh Monty?

  212. Infidel tiger

    Democrats staging a walkout.

    Good. Keep walking.

  213. BTW, America magazine is a left-wing rag. Much like Eureka Street here. Pay it no heed.

  214. Infidel tiger

    Grassley is wearing an australia shaped badge???

  215. Snoopy

    Losers aren’t taking this flogging very well.

  216. mh

    Guys, there is a new thread.

    Just saying.

  217. Snoopy

    The way Hirono, Harris and Blumenthal are carrying on strongly indicates Senate confirmation is a lock.

  218. .

    Snoopy
    #2827290, posted on September 28, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    Democrats lead with their best. Vietnam war hero Senator Richard Blumenthal asking to subpoena Mark Judge and other “sexual assault survivors”.

    Sure, now let’s fully investigate the claims of Swetnick, and subpoena all of the financial, phone, email and IM records of the accusers, their supporters and counsel.

  219. Stimpson J. Cat

    If it’s hair you’re after Stimpson, I’ll send you some.

    I’ve seen your videos you need yours more than me.

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