Open Forum: September 29, 2018

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  1. hzhousewife

    I see the aviation fuel problem in the north and outback that Helen has referred to in the past, has finally hit the news.

  2. Cronk starting.

    That’s good to hear.
    It’s always good when your cronk starts.
    But how about the brakes? Lights? Steering?

  3. calli

    But what I want to know is, what part did Abbott 666 play in all this?

    And where eggzackerly was Donald Trump when all this was going on?

    I sense a pattern here.

  4. Leigh Lowe

    Cronk starting.

    Is DG getting his model A started?

  5. And where eggzackerly was Donald Trump when all this was going on?

    Don’t be silly. Behind the scenes, of course!
    Who do you think paid all Abbott 666’s expenses?

  6. Bill Thompson

    Outside Insiders – part 1. The PM was kind enough to arrange one of his staff (who requested anonymity) to meet with me this morning, outside their ABC at Southbank, so I could deliver a briefing paper on government agency failures which had contributed to the Trio Capital scandal – the largest superannuation fraud in Australian history! Some 6,000 Aussie superannuants lost about $175m to Hong Kong-based scammers, who had previously been identified by government investigators as facilitators in an earlier tax/super fraud carried out by a Brisbane accountant. Too bad the feds didn’t keep an eye on them, so they just turned around & took over an Albury-based firm, with an Aussie financial services licence & used it to start ripping investors off, all over again! In July 2012, I delivered the same briefing to the then Assistant Treasurer & Minister for Superannuation, as well as reps from ASIC & APRA, regarding agency failures but it seems I may as well have been talking to a brick wall, because nobody ever got back to me & 6 years later, the Royal Commission has recently heard that ASIC & APRA are still failing Australians in their oversight of the financial system! I hope ScoMo picks up the batton this time.

    https://youtu.be/Ke0XQScbRQ8

  7. min

    Mitch.M That is why I was asking on what ground was the diagnosis made without all evidence being available and not being able to talk with the person. How does pathological lying and lack of empathy that are characteristics of psychopath/ sociopaths fit in with Borderline Personality Disorder?

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    Apart from the obvious stupidity of making such diagnoses over the internet let’s assume it is true.

    You are on an economics blog infested with bowtie spinning Libertarians having a serious discussion with a mentally ill cartoon cat.
    Let’s not worry about obvious stupidity.

  9. Top Ender

    This rugby stuff is pretty interesting.

    Just got into an argument with another bloke here who reckoned the Goggomobile was an Australian invention.

  10. Bill Thompson

    The PM was leaving their ABC this morning after appearing on “Insiders” & I sent him off with a poster saying: “Thanks for stopping the boats!” He seemed to appreciate it…

    https://youtu.be/vVFgXzH0Z14

  11. Bushkid

    Proud to be a Kitteh!

    I’m not into feminist bullshit, just into making my own way, getting on with the job, applying common sense, and wherever possible sticking it up stupidity. Especially feminist stupidity.

  12. Eyrie

    Dot, Jackie Trad is a dangerous commie and Stephen Miles is a complete boofhead.

  13. Snoopy

    Absolute garbage. How to ruin an economy and deindustrialise.

    In Palacechook’s defence that was the plan from the beginning. The Quandamooka people were split on continuing the mine, but the ones against were ALP members. Game over.

  14. From an article at the Thomson Geer website:

    Over 6,000 investors were affected by the collapse of the Trio Group. The Federal Government provided compensation of approximately $55 million to over 5,000 investors who had invested in the Trio Group through APRA-regulated superannuation funds.

    Bullyang they did. The long-suffering Australian taxpayer paid the money, NOT “the Federal Government”. You know, the SAME people who got ripped off in the first place.

    Article

  15. Mitch M.

    You are on an economics blog infested with bowtie spinning Libertarians having a serious discussion with a mentally ill cartoon cat.
    Let’s not worry about obvious stupidity.

    The difference is that you know you are mentally ill whereas bowtie spinning libertarians are delusional in thinking they are very stable geniuses with very large brains.

  16. Snoopy

    but the ones minority against were ALP members. Game over.

  17. Stimpson J. Cat

    That is why I was asking on what ground was the diagnosis made without all evidence being available and not being able to talk with the person.

    It’s an educated guess by an uneducated man min.
    Symptoms can overlap.
    It’s a lot more of a realistic diagnosis than calling her a sociopath or a psychopath.

  18. cohenite

    Bill Thompson

    #2828601, posted on September 30, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    Good work. It’s strange, we have regulators who muzzle the conservative press and regulators who have turned the finance industry into crony capitalism.

  19. mh

    Roosters making a lot of tipsters look very silly.

    Oh, hi Makka!

  20. . . . and regulators who have turned the finance industry into crony capitalism.

    Nonsense! It’s all fakenews.
    If anything like that ever really happened, APRA would be down on them like a ton of bricks.
    You know, like always.

  21. JC

    You’re a finance expertologist now, Cronkite?

  22. .

    He’s right about financial planning.

  23. JC

    Incredible hubris and stupidity. The government makes banking an incontestable sector of the economy and we blame the bankers.

  24. In really important news, today I think I have perfected the ejuice mix in my vaporiser.
    Nirvana.

  25. JC

    Faulty should write a newsletter. He’d be really good at it.

  26. Eyrie

    Bill Thompson, the good news is that the financial regulators are no worse than any other federal government regulatory agency. The bad news is they are no better than any other federal government regulatory agency. See CASA which has nothing to do with civil aviation safety except the safety of the jobs of those employed
    (“work” would be a misnomer) there.

  27. Tel

    The difference is that you know you are mentally ill whereas bowtie spinning libertarians are delusional in thinking they are very stable geniuses with very large brains.

    And they would be correct, to the best that anyone has been able to measure these things.

    https://righteousmind.com/largest-study-of-libertarian-psych/

    On this and other measures, libertarians consistently come out as the most cerebral, most rational, and least emotional. On a very crude problem solving measure related to IQ, they score the highest. Libertarians, more than liberals or conservatives, have the capacity to reason their way to their ideology.

    Personally, I think that formal measurements of “Empathy” are largely junk, and that’s made worse because the word get redefined arbitrarily like all “Progressive” words. You can judge someone’s tendency towards emotional reasoning but only if you have known them a long time because it depends on circumstance, and everyone has good and bad days. You could measure how accurately one person can estimate what another person is feeling, except this also is highly dependent on circumstance and how well you know the other person, what background information you have, and common sense.

    My opinion of IQ that it’s a much more consistent and reliable measurement, in as much as you put problems in front of people and they either solve the puzzles or they don’t. As to what exactly this proves, that’s arguable but seems many cognitive scientists think it somehow relates to big brains… or at least, highly effective brains, where size might be one factor but not the only factor.

  28. Boambee John

    Tel at 1734

    The Ford theater

    Was that deliberate?

  29. calli

    This from WIP dovetails with that comment, BJ. 😀

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    O/T, I know, but the newest member of the clan was born earlier this afternoon – I’m now a great – uncle.

    Sliante!

  31. Congrats to all the family, Zulu.
    Now Time to watch the second half of the first episode of the original “Magnum P.I. with Tom Selleck.
    Back later.

  32. Viva

    It still doesn’t explain why do this to Kavanaugh and his family. Why pick him, why now?

    IMO some time in the past Ford felt humiliated when a boy (either Kavanaugh or someone who looked like him) laughed at her with his male friend. It was this laughter that she specifically mentions as an”indelible” memory”

    If it was Kavanaugh he would probably have no memory of it or attached any importance to it. But it was burned in her memory being a rather plain, possibly promiscuous young girl with low self esteem . Taunts at her expense and a bit of roughhousing – from a handsome young man out of her league. He forgets all about it. But 36 years later she remembers.

  33. Mitch M.

    My opinion of IQ that it’s a much more consistent and reliable measurement, in as much as you put problems in front of people and they either solve the puzzles or they don’t. As to what exactly this proves, that’s arguable but seems many cognitive scientists think it somehow relates to big brains… or at least, highly effective brains, where size might be one factor but not the only factor.

    Did you bother to read the actual research? They didn’t test IQ they tested “Cognitive Reflection”. If you’re going to rely on that metric then you must concede that Liberals are smarter than Conservatives(see Table 3). Instead you relied on a press release. It was also based on self-reports(laughable) and published in PLOS One, a journal I never trust unless it is supported by other findings because it is one of the most pathetic “scientific” journals on the planet.

  34. Death Giraffe

    Now Time to watch the second half of the first episode of the original “Magnum P.I.

    ..
    Nothing gay about that.

  35. Elle

    Roosters!! 🐓 🏈 👍 😆 🍻

  36. calli

    Tonight in emojis:

    🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐣🎉

    ⛈⛈⛈⛈⛈🤮👎

  37. JC

    Roosters?

    How many are there?

  38. None

    Now that all the finals are over time to wonder why the fuk wit that killed a woman and her unborn twins as well as a younger relative is only being charged with manslaughter for 2 victims. He should be charged with killing four. What is more the bastard has a name that suggest that is yet another f****** New Zealander. New Zealand sends all their s*** to us it’s about time we deported all of them.

  39. Infidel Tiger

    Love the NRL.

    The whole season feels like an inter village cheese rolling competition.

    None of them even care too much. All that matters to mungos is SOO. Weird people. All they care about is tatts, and group sex with heaps and heaps guys.

  40. Tel

    Did you bother to read the actual research?

    Not in any great detail, as long as libertarians come out looking smart, that shows they are onto something.

    If you’re going to rely on that metric then you must concede that Liberals are smarter than Conservatives(see Table 3).

    Well the task is IQ related, they admitted it’s crude (if you check closely, only 3 questions). My estimate is that most conservatives are older and more interested in rules following, so if the task was anything they were familiar with then they would be knocking it over more reliably than the liberals. On the other hand, it’s easy for conservatives to get out of their comfort zone. In Figure 4 the Conservatives score lower on just about everything but the difference is small. On the “Utilitarian Dilemma” everyone ends up with a negative score so I think that probably means the people who set the question should be self reflecting about being wrong on that one. Probably one of those dumbarse railway car questions. The answer is always, “If you think you should be pulling levers on the railway, and you don’t work for the railway then you are wrong… end of story. Hand’s off the lever.”

    As for how good PLOS is compared to other journals, given that there’s been huge numbers of results in psychology and even in medicine that are completely unreproducible, I’m pretty skeptical on all of them. Libertarians are smart though, that’s got to be obvious, so always work from what you do know and then explore the unknowns.

  41. Death Giraffe

    Now Time to watch the second half of the first episode of the original “Magnum P.I.

    ..
    Two ferrari driving guys living together in Hawaii.
    One with a moustache.
    Perfectly straight.

  42. calli

    Can we keep Elle and Arky?

  43. Death Giraffe

    and group sex with heaps and heaps guys.

    ..
    Totally heterosexual.

  44. Death Giraffe

    Sorry.
    I thought we were still talking Magnum PI.

  45. Death Giraffe

    I demand to be deported in solidarity with my cuzzie bros.

  46. Elle

    But, but, but I’m an Austrayan sutuzun

  47. Nick

    I agree None, why manslaughter?

  48. Shy Ted

    Mitch.M That is why I was asking on what ground was the diagnosis made without all evidence being available and not being able to talk with the person. How does pathological lying and lack of empathy that are characteristics of psychopath/ sociopaths fit in with Borderline Personality Disorder? In the 60s the profession got rid of the old psychopath tag and replaced it with personality disorders and defined them further. Ford doesn’t have BPD, there’d be much evidence of deliberate self harm and emotional instability along the way, besides BPD is much more associated with childhood sexual abuse and not teenage sexual activity. There are so many lies in her story re Kavanaugh and likely throughout her life that she certainly qualifies as a pathological liar and when you listen to the childlike voice in her testimony, it’s just another lie, it’s not her adult voice. Psychology the profession is entirely theoretical and you can just make shit up to theorise about why your clients are the way they are or do what they do. It’s the perfect profession for liars and there are only research psychologists because so much of psychology doesn’t work. Promiscuous sexual behavior is a classic feature. She’s a common or garden what they used to call inadequate psychopath. She loves the attention and she’ll fall apart in a dramatic way, when the current spotlight shines elsewhere, to regain the attention. The left is the natural home for liars, birds of a feather and all that.

  49. Stimpson J. Cat

    Libertarians are smart though, that’s got to be obvious, so always work from what you do know and then explore the unknowns.

    I’m sorry, but belief in Open Borders proves that Libertarians really aren’t that smart at all.
    It proves that can’t even SEE the f$cking problem, let alone contemplate solving it.
    Look, so long as they have someone to tell them which direction to point their beautiful big brains in, they’ll be fine.
    But they can’t be trusted by themselves.
    We have seen this time and time again.
    Sorry guys.

  50. mh

    Three beers for Cooper Cronk……

    🍺 🍺 🍺

  51. Jessie

    A couple of bloggers earlier discussed this. It is a factual article.

    Records Show Dr. Ford Is Not A Licensed Psychologist, May Have Committed Perjury

    viva @9.08 = interesting comment
    63 published papers under C Blasey in PubMed:

    Behav Ther. 2016 Jan;47(1):91-101. doi: 10.1016/j.beth.2015.09.006. Epub 2015 Oct 22.
    Anxiety and Related Disorders and Concealment in Sexual Minority Young Adults.
    Cohen JM1, Blasey C2, Barr Taylor C3, Weiss BJ4, Newman MG5.
    Author information
    1PGSP-Stanford Psy.D. Consortium. Electronic address: [email protected]. 2PGSP-Stanford Psy.D. Consortium .3Stanford University School of Medicine, Palo Alto University.4National Center for PTSD, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System, Stanford University School of Medicine.5The Pennsylvania State University.

    Neuroreport. 2002 Oct 7;13(14):1737-41.
    Amygdalar activation associated with positive and negative facial expressions.
    Yang TT1, Menon V, Eliez S, Blasey C, White CD, Reid AJ, Gotlib IH, Reiss AL.
    Abstract

    Most theories of amygdalar function have underscored its role in fear. One broader theory suggests that neuronal activation of the amygdala in response to fear-related stimuli represents only a portion of its more widespread role in modulating an organism’s vigilance level. To further explore this theory, the amygdalar response to happy, sad, angry, fearful, and neutral faces in 17 subjects was characterized using 3 T fMRI. Utilizing a random effects model and hypothesis-driven analytic strategy, it was observed that each of the four emotional faces was associated with reliable bilateral activation of the amygdala compared with neutral. These findings suggest a broader role for the amygdala in modulating the vigilance level during the perception of several negative and positive facial emotions.

  52. 2dogs

    Jessie
    #2828658, posted on September 30, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    Records Show Dr. Ford Is Not A Licensed Psychologist, May Have Committed Perjury

    Actually, no. The term she used was “research psychologist” which is a different thing to a “psychologist” (which can be further distinguished as a “clinical psychologist”).

    i.e. She studies mental illness but doesn’t treat people.

  53. P

    Roosters?

    How many are there?

    Tonight on the field 12 + 1. The brilliance of the ‘+1’ secured the Premiership for The Roosters.

  54. Two ferrari driving guys living together in Hawaii.
    One with a moustache.
    Perfectly straight.

    And wall to wall chicks, almost wearing tiny bikinis.

    My verdict is in:
    Nothing wrong with the new Magnum, apart from pussy-footing around all the PC obstacles.
    But for sheer entertainment value, plus raunchy chicks, the original wins hands down.

    You can find it on Daily Motion.

  55. 2dogs

    I’m sorry, but belief in Open Borders proves that Libertarians really aren’t that smart at all.

    I think the problem with Libertarians is they focus on laws when they should focus on constitutions.

    They need to consider that people want their own space where their own rules apply. It’s a notion they support in regard to private property, and they simply need to see that the principle of freedom of association applies to that: that if a large group of people want to create their own space in which their own rules apply, that should be allowed. And that can occur up to the point you are seceding territory and creating autonomous regions.

    If those rules happen to be a ban on smoking or guns or Islam or whatever, so be it. If you want those things, don’t go to that space. You and your fellow like-minded individuals can go make your own space where it is permitted, and you might want to ban different things there. Let all every group having their own peculiar set of preferences have their own space.

    The “not smart” thing about Libertarians is they don’t realise that the “no rules” set of preferences is not popular, and people shy away from them because of their advocacy of that preference set.

    Instead, they should just focus on constitutional changes that will give everyone their own preference set in their own space. They will find a lot of new allies with this approach.

  56. .

    I’m sorry, but belief in Open Borders proves that Libertarians really aren’t that smart at all.
    It proves that can’t even SEE the f$cking problem, let alone contemplate solving it.

    I can’t tell if you’re trolling or misguided.

    For the millionth time, what Uncle Milt said.

    There are a lot of rather silly claims made on this forum now that anything BUT shutting the borders, at a minimum for multiple decades is open borders. Or having a preference for freedom of movement represents the same thing as a policy of disavowing a sovereign right. Or that we’re overpopulated. Or that 12,000 refugees isn’t the end of the world. Or that the outsourcing of refos to PNG isn’t the best policy since income tax abolition. I can hear the shouts of reeeeeeeeeeeeee coming already.

  57. they should just focus on constitutional changes that will give everyone their own preference set in their own space.

    Or maybe the people constantly bagging Libertarian Philosophy should actually spend a little time finding out what it’s all really about. You can start with the original textbook here.

    When you find the bit about “open borders” let me know. Somehow I keep missing it.

  58. JC

    For the millionth time, what Uncle Milt said.

    It never gets through.

  59. JC

    Morrison could win the next election. His public performances are excellent and comes across as an average Aussie dude who likes the job.

    First time I’ve gone close to this program in years.

  60. .

    I think Economic Sophisms is Basistat’s better work.

  61. I think Economic Sophisms is Basistat’s better work.

    Bastiat wrote about many things.
    We were discussing Libertarian Philosophy.

  62. egg_

    The Coalition has increased its two-party-preferred vote by 2% in the latest Newspoll, a first step for Scott Morrison to pare back Labor’s election-winning lead in the wake of the Liberal leadership spill.

    One month after Morrison emerged the winner in a poisonous three-way leadership contest, the Newspoll, published on Monday, found the Liberal party has boosted its primary vote by 3% to 36% and now sits behind Labor 46% to 54% in two-party-preferred terms.

    The result represents a 4.4% swing to Labor since the 2016 election, which would lead to the government losing up to 20 seats if replicated in a general election, but is the first positive movement towards the Coalition since Morrison took over.

  63. Jessie

    2 dogs

    from article:

    If Ford at one time had a license but it is now inactive, she would legally still be allowed to call herself a “psychologist” but forbidden from practicing psychology on patients until it was renewed. However, the database would have shown any past licenses granted to Ford, even if they were inactive.

    It is common for academics and researchers in psychology to not hold a license. California law does not prohibit anyone from engaging in research, teaching, or other activities associated with psychology if they are not licensed, so long as those individuals do not use the word “psychologist” when referring to themselves publicly.

    Ford has NO licence entry, under the 3 licence types of the Psychology Board: psychologist: registered psychologist, registered psychological assistant. On search function, she has neither current nor past registration on the Board.
    Hence by law she cannot use the title Psychologist.
    Statistician, researcher perhaps.

    Welcome to the Department of Consumer Affairs license search. You may use this web page to look up a company or individual who has a license issued by the Department of Consumer Affairs for the professions listed

  64. Death Giraffe

    Ford has NO licence entry, under the 3 licence types of the Psychology Board:

    ..
    I don’t believe Ford exists at all.
    The whole thing seems improbable.
    I think the CIA created her from meccano, linguine and those ridiculous Garth wig and glasses in order to see how easy it is to gaslight an entire polulation into responding to something obviously picasso- levels of absurd as if it were true.

  65. Death Giraffe
    #2828675, posted on September 30, 2018 at 10:55 pm

    An excellent analysis, Giraffe.

  66. Jessie

    She exists ……
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1166667013485737&set=p.1166667013485737&type=3

    source: comments in previous article re Dr Ford not licensed psychologist
    KL LeVelle

    If I would’ve behave like this at a party I would’ve been traumatized to! And my parents would’ve killed me hers sent her to California to live!

  67. Death Giraffe

    She exists ……

    ..
    Come now, that isn’t a person.

  68. Snoopy

    I have always thought Palo Alto was posh, but Ford’s house (apart from the double garage) looks like something out of Budgewoi, 1962.

  69. JC

    The land is probably worth US$30 billion though.

  70. Snoopy

    She exists ……

    The gun. I’m triggered.

  71. Harlequin Decline

    Anyone noticed Ford looks a lot like Lucy Turnbull?

  72. Steve trickler

    Iv’e said it before. Always film and record those that are interviewing you. A great example was Joanne Nova and the ABC a while back.

    Now this.



  73. .

    You know Snoopy that could be something a lot more substantial than not qualifying her job title with “academic research….X”.

    Shit. I reckon she’s busted.

  74. .

    Nah. Reasonable doubt. The counselling might have gone on for months.

  75. Stimpson J. Cat

    ridiculous Garth wig

    Her hair was really bad.
    It was literally so bad that even I wouldn’t wear it.
    Just sad.

  76. Oh come on

    Or, as in the case of Lindsey Graham, (one of the lucky ones who got a deal) freed from the blackmail control, and given a second chance.

    LOL guy makes one bracing speech and he’s one of the Anointed. Annie, you people sure have low standards. Lindsey Graham is a consensus Republican. As Establishment as they come. He ran in the 2015-16 GOP primaries as an inoffensive moderate. I don’t think his polling numbers ever cracked double digits.

    I think he’s a decent guy – and I think we saw his finest hour a couple of days ago – but he is a squish.

  77. Stimpson J. Cat

    Annie, you people sure have low standards.

    When you say “you people” do you mean Women, or Crazy, or Crazy Women?
    Asking for a friend.

  78. Oh come on

    Conspiracy theorist types, Stimps. I consider you a lot more in touch with reality than them.

  79. Oh come on

    It’s pretty remarkable when the Alex Jones set are lauding Lindsey Graham.

  80. Tom

    Hahaha. The Euro commies choking in the Ryder Cup in Paris. Euros have won only half a point today — Current score Euro 10.5, USA 9.5 (Yanks 6 at the start of the day). First team to reach 14.5 points wins. Go Yanks!

  81. Cpt Seahawks

    Shy Ted
    #2828654, posted on September 30, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Borderline Personality Disorder. Would you mind talking to me personally about this?

    Go Eagles

  82. C.L.

    Kanye is some kind of weird rightist hero at the moment.
    Far out.

  83. Death Giraffe

    Democrats asked for an in investigation.
    According to Lindsay Graham they’re going to get it:
    -Why didn’t the her lawyers forward committee’s offer to meet their client anywhere.
    -Who leaked the madwoman’s letter.
    – Who recommended those lawyers to the crazybint.

  84. Death Giraffe

    And who leaked the anonymous bullshit letter to the media.

  85. None

    Kanye has left the plantation.

  86. None

    Sexual assault is a serious matter. That Ford woman and her sycophant lawyers have trivialised it and turned it into a sordid spectacle. And for what reason? Because the Democrats are afraid that maybe with a conservative majority on the bench scotus may decide that killing your unborn or sodomizing men is not exactly a constitutional right. They are terrified that they may not be able to kill their own children. I cannot tell you how much I despise the Ford woman and the people around her at the moment for the grubby individuals that they are and for the untold damage they are doing not least to the millions of unborn who are slaughtered each year and to women who have been genuinely assaulted and are unlikely to ever see justice because of fuckwits like her.

  87. Tom

    Valiant attempt by the Yanks to come from behind and win the Ryder Cup on foreign soil (in Paris) for the first time in 25 years falls short; only the final score still to be determined – Europe 17-USA 11 projected. Bugger.

  88. Death Giraffe:
    In this whole thing about one white woman who claims she was groped by a white man 35 years ago but doesn’t have any proof, where is the ‘outrage’ from the Feminazis about the working class girls from Britains industrial towns who have been pack raped/addicted/prostituted by Islamic rape gangs.
    The whole saga has been going on for over a decade with the social services, police, courts, etc not only aware of the behaviour but actively covering in up and prosecuting/gaoling the parents who complain?
    The whole US is in an uproar about a dopey bint who may, or may not have, had her tits groped. No mention of the 14 yo girl who was whored out, probably killed, and her body put into kebabs?
    The clue is in the above word ⬆️ “working class”

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Today we explored a castle near Liminos that belonged to, you guessed it, the Knights of St. John in the 13th century, then for only a few years given to the Knights Templar then back to the hospitallers when the Pope axed the Templars. Renuilt in the mid fifteenth century in the form we visitrd today, it then passed to various Venetian and Marduk Turkish interests, then the Ottomans. It still had a functional sugar cane processing plant with water wheel, contributing to thesweet Cypriot port named after this Commanderie and fiund in shops even today. Did six flights of handrailess and narrow spiral staircase to properly inspect it all.

    Then on to archaeology, the high above the sea town of Kourion, founded in the mists of the late Neolithic, with settlement through the Bronze Age and Mycenaean period, but mainly known now for its 350bc and later Hellenistic and then Roman ruins. Plenty of temple remnants and the basic structure of a Roman town to trace in the fierce heat. Glad I took my bamboo and silk printed white sun umbrella as well as sunhat to swan around in. Good ruins of an extensive Roman forum or agora, and a number of excellent late Roman mosaics in upmarket early Christian (from c 4th and 5th ad) private residences. Also an early c5th Christian basilica with good mosaic floor still extant although the rest in ruins. Interesting take on early Christianity during the time of Theodosius 11.

  90. Death Giraffe

    The clue is in the above word ⬆ “working class”

    ..
    Indeed.
    Do you remember when the elites promoted the idea of the working classes?
    “Ohhhhhhhhhohhhhhhhhhhhho… he’s a working class man”.

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Templars and St Johns c14th, ie 1307, confused dates and century in comment above. Also, hospitalliers regained control and rebuilt that castle for the last time in the mid 1500’s, just before the Ottomans arrived and St John knights pack up for Rhodes.

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ouzo does not always clear the head!

    One interesting thing though is that you have to get to these two places via the United Kingdom, as the road travels through land that since 1974 is part of a temporary military settlement including Britain in the defense of Grrek Cyprus
    An unusual relationship still

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There are actually British flags flying there and signs saying, United Kingdom as you enter and telling you you are exiting UK territory as you depart. Someone has built a small garden centre on the roadway. Inveterate gardeners and long-term Pelagian nature lovers, these Britons. 🙂

  94. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2828716, posted on October 1, 2018 at 3:00 am

    Ouzo
    does not always clear the head!

    No offense but how can you drink that stuff?
    Is it an acquired taste?

  95. Mark A

    sent to me.

    A girlfriend said to her bloke: “Oh love what did you ever do to deserve a girl like me?”
    He replied” “f…d if I know but I won’t be doing it again”

    Son to his father; Hi dad, I got a part in the school play, playing a man who’s been married for 25 years.
    Never mind, said the father, next time you’ll get a speaking part.

  96. zyconoclast

    What Feminists Can Do for Boys
    We fought for young women in the patriarchy first. But budding patriarchs could use some help too.

    Feminist ideas can help men — be it the rejection of expectations that men be strong and stoic or ending the silence around male victims of sexual violence. But boys also need the same kind of culture we created for girls.

    There is an understandable feminist skepticism of claims that the culture is failing boys. White male leaders in government, corporations and institutions vastly outnumber women. Men have more cultural and economic power than women. And more often than not, assertions that young men are under siege are more about reinforcing traditional gender power dynamics than helping to see how those norms harm boys.

    Feminism has long focused on issues of sexual assault, reproductive rights, harassment and more. But issues don’t hurt women, men do. Until we grapple with how to stop misogynists themselves — starting with ensuring boys don’t grow up to be one — women will never be free.

  97. zyconoclast

    Mayor de Blasio and new Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza on Thursday approved a controversial plan to scrap admissions standards in one of the city’s top districts as part of their crusade to diversify student bodies.

    Effective immediately, the 11 middle schools in Brooklyn’s District 15 — which spans Park Slope into Sunset Park — must ditch education-based entrance criteria for a weighted lottery system that reserves roughly half of their seats for kids who are low income, homeless or learning English.

  98. zyconoclast

    Visitors to an east-end Toronto hotel — which has doubled as a refugee camp all summer — have turned in droves to two well-read travel websites to warn others not to stay there.

    A series of pointed reviews on TripAdvisor and Expedia from those who stayed at the Radisson Toronto East hotel as recently as this past week advise others that some 400 refugees from Africa are occupying all but two floors of the hotel and they were not informed of the situation before booking.

  99. Mark A

    zyconoclast
    #2828723, posted on October 1, 2018 at 5:34 am

    Effective immediately, the 11 middle schools in Brooklyn’s District 15 — which spans Park Slope into Sunset Park — must ditch education-based entrance criteria for a weighted lottery system that reserves roughly half of their seats for kids who are low income, homeless or learning English.

    That’s gonna improve standards out of this world.

  100. zyconoclast

    Judicial Watch Obtains IRS Documents Revealing McCain’s Subcommittee Staff Director Urged IRS to Engage in “Financially Ruinous” Targeting

    The explosive exchange was contained in notes taken by IRS employees at an April 30, 2013, meeting between Kerner, Lerner, and other high-ranking IRS officials. Just ten days following the meeting, former IRS director of exempt organizations Lois Lerner admitted that the IRS had a policy of improperly and deliberately delaying applications for tax-exempt status from conservative non-profit groups.

    Lerner and other IRS officials met with select top staffers from the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee in a “marathon” meeting to discuss concerns raised by both Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) that the IRS was not reining in political advocacy groups in response to the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision. Senator McCain had been the chief sponsor of the McCain-Feingold Act and called the Citizens United decision, which overturned portions of the Act, one of the “worst decisions I have ever seen.”

  101. duncanm

    And you thought Malcolm was a narcissist.. at least he understood his job was politics, not celebrity.

    https://youtu.be/3o9etQktCpI

  102. Mark A

    Try again

    http://youtu.be/3o9etQktCpI

    Why, worked the first time, unless wrong video?
    Didn’t connect to Mal tho.

  103. zyconoclast

    originally from michaelsmithnews.com

    From the Air Force, to law, to CEO to board director: Meet Dr Kirstin Ferguson

    She graduated as the dux of her Air Force class for academic and military performance. It’s an achievement Ferguson is, and was, proud of, particularly because it was such a challenging environment.
    ………

    The kids will be fine!
    “I was most indignant one day because one of our kids was sick and my daughter had asked the school to ring the nanny. I said next time someone is sick call me first.

    And then the next time they did ring me and it rang out because I was on a plane. I had to concede that it is probably wise to call the nanny first. It stuck in my mind because my initial impression was “I can do it all!”. But I can’t. I try my best and I accept that’s ok and the kids are perfectly fine.”

  104. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2828731, posted on October 1, 2018 at 5:56 am

    For those who haven’t met Titania McGrath.

    https://me.me/i/titania-mcgrath-titaniamcgrath-i-wrote-this-important-article-for-the-8182c67501584adc9046ad651b34fb68

    struth! and I thought my link to vegan reproduction was a joke.

  105. DrBeauGan

    Google her Twitter account, Mark. She’s funny.

  106. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    ‘ issues don’t hurt women, men do’

    An unpleasant and wrong-headed point of view. Women are hurt when they stop being women and set out to blame men that it is all just too hard. Trying to change boys is just making it worse. And this has nothing to do with legal bars to female equality which have long been removed. Instead, it has everything to do with some fundamental differences between men and women regarding what each sex seeks in life. Biology may not be absolutely destiny (perish the thought when we think of the many women for whom this has not been entirely the case), but biology will out in the interplay of making, having and raising children, which is why there are two sexes in the first place.

    Wrongologists like the poor deluded woman finishing her tirade against men and boys with the above tag line should people-watch some more and note how the population of men and women actually go about their lives together, co-operatively, not in endless futile attempts to remake the nature and essence of the other.

    Except when they are happily married, that is, and willingly accept that they are chalk and cheese. Then, all bets are off 😀

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry to break into your stream of toons, Tom. Johannes Leak nails it today. Selection bias at the ABC. Rabz them. They will never change

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Didn’t go much for any of the other toons in this line up. None was savage enough on the Democrat machine behind Ford, nor on Ford’s character and bad staging and acting

  109. Mark from Melbourne

    Thanks, Tom.

  110. Herodotus

    I’ve had it with all these people saying her testimony was credible or compelling. I heard it as it was being delivered, and it sounded fake from the outset.
    Even Rowan Dean on Outsiders yesterday said something mushily similar.
    It is b/s and it’s encouraging more of the same in the coming week.
    Stop it.
    And let’s hear more about the real party girl.

  111. Baldrick

    Cheers Tom. Pat Cross today.

  112. Anne

    Great analysis of the Blasey-Ford fraud here:

    https://youtu.be/JoHtkvjcU6g

  113. Herodotus

    Thanks Tom – Zanetti and Leak both hit an exquisitely droll note, and strike in different but equally valid directions. Ramirez has the campaign to rights with his zombie, which will destroy US unless stopped by the red state voters in the half terms.

  114. Mark A

    Herodotus
    #2828750, posted on October 1, 2018 at 6:52 am

    I’ve had it with all these people saying her testimony was credible or compelling. I heard it as it was being delivered, and it sounded fake from the outset.
    Even Rowan Dean on Outsiders yesterday said something mushily similar.
    It is b/s and it’s encouraging more of the same in the coming week.
    Stop it.
    And let’s hear more about the real party girl.

    Ancient crimes are being solved routinely, but on facts and evidence provided, however belatedly.
    Not on a vague assertion without time, locale, witnesses and all the paraphernalia required for solving a case.

    This was a sham and a disgrace, a perversion of justice.

  115. DrBeauGan

    When we get televised testimony from opposed witnesses, and analysis from the media, we get an opportunity to assess the perceptiveness of said media and their objectivity.

    The results are about what a cynical bastard would expect. Most in the media are gullible, partisan zombies.

  116. Baldrick

    The Stupid.Fucking.Liberals still don’t get it …

    Sky News Australia ✔ @SkyNewsAust
    Scott Morrison defends controversial $443.3 million grant to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, saying it made ‘financial sense’.

  117. Mark A

    Is it too late for this or has the serious discussion begun?

    sorry time for bed here.

  118. woolfe

    I see today Lizzie gave us some fashion tips on sun umbrellas and hats in her travelogue. Where you wearing a floral sleeveless sundress as you picked your way up the steps, was there a small dab of perspiration down your back? Asking for a friend!

    Seriously though keep it up, love your writing style!

  119. Farmer Gez

    Blasey Ford completely lost me regarding her credibility when she said she had one drink at the party.
    Nobody but nobody remembers exactly how many drinks they had thirty six years later.

  120. Mark A

    woolfe
    #2828758, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:21 am

    I see today Lizzie gave us some fashion tips on sun umbrellas and hats in her travelogue. Where you wearing a floral sleeveless sundress as you picked your way up the steps, was there a small dab of perspiration down your back? Asking for a friend!

    Seriously though keep it up, love your writing style!

    Digging my early grave here woolfe, but do you have a loyalty card with Mills&Boons?

    No goodwill lost, so what the heck?

  121. Mark A

    Farmer Gez
    #2828759, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:26 am

    Blasey Ford completely lost me regarding her credibility when she said she had one drink at the party.
    Nobody but nobody remembers exactly how many drinks they had thirty six years later.

    36 years? ask me an hour into the party.

  122. DrBeauGan

    That scene in the lift with two women, obviously acting, screaming at senator Flake. Was it for real, or were they rehearsing for some zombie apocalypse movie?

  123. woolfe

    As someone who brought up on Biggles first, then Alistair Maclean and moving on to Wilbur Smith (in my pimple years) i have eclectic literary tastes!

  124. Twostix

    Why were they screaming at the guy who heloed them?

  125. calli

    Varvel for me. Nice characterisation and fair comment.

  126. DrBeauGan

    The thing I noticed, twostix, is that the women were obviously enjoying the episode.

  127. John Constantine

    Temperatures on the rise in vicco, and the first of the new seasons hay offered by motivated sellers at half the price old season hay was making a month ago.

    It is a danger to see how some contractors New to salvage hay are butchering their job.

    Nothing more dangerous than chunky wads of hay in the window, as it can fail to dry out, get baled up and burn in spontaneous combustion.

  128. 2dogs

    Or maybe the people constantly bagging Libertarian Philosophy should actually spend a little time finding out what it’s all really about.

    That would still be inwardly focused and echo chamber stuff within the Libertarian movement, memoryvault. Bastiat railed against the welfare state, but the age pension is quite popular.

    Only in respect of their constitutional prescriptions can Libertarianism hope to be popular.

    If a group of people want a space for themselves in which taxes are levied and welfare is provided, why not let them?

  129. I am bespoke

    Tom

    Pat Cross toon makes out justice is stacked in favor of Kav. Taking allegations seriously and presumption of innocents give balance.

  130. calli

    Evidence helps too, Bespoke.

  131. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2828768, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:39 am

    The thing I noticed, twostix, is that the women were obviously enjoying the episode.

    They obviously did.
    The only thing a recipient, a wise one, can do in these circs. is to stand back calmly and wait until they run out of breath, and then ask if they are finished.

    Not many can do it, alas. Definitely no, or very few politicians.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly


    Blasey Ford completely lost me regarding her credibility when she said she had one drink at the party.

    Easily explained away. The same one brand of drink for the duration, until thoroughly pissed.

  133. John Constantine

    “Mice assigned to endurance exercise performed treadmill running at 12 m/min for 60 min/day, 5 days/week for 6 weeks.”

    Endurance exercise (EE) has been reported to confer neuroprotection against Parkinson’s disease (PD); however, underlying molecular mechanisms of the protection remain still unclear. Since mitochondrial impairment is commonly observed in the brain of PD patients and animals, this study investigated whether EE-induced neuroprotection is associated with mitochondrial phenotypes, using a mouse mode”

    If you feel like a mouse on a treadmill sometimes, it might be protecting you against cognitive decline.l

  134. 132andBush

    Nothing more dangerous than chunky wads of hay in the window, as it can fail to dry out, get baled up and burn in spontaneous combustion.

    The urge to go faster and thus increase the ha/hr covered in years like this is great.
    Extra R&M will always result, not to mention doing a crook job.

  135. Geriatric Mayfly

    Let’s give youths the vote
    George Williams AO law UNSW
    Giving 16-year-olds a say will help our country.

    Another peak beckons in the Stupidity Mountains.

  136. Farmer Gez

    Temperatures on the rise in vicco, and the first of the new seasons hay offered by motivated sellers at half the price old season hay was making a month ago.

    The dry is spreading throughout.
    Stock farmers are now worried about the feed dying and low water supplies heading into summer. Huge yardings of young sheep for sale tells the tale. Prices slumped acvordingly.

  137. Mark A

    Farmer Gez
    #2828782, posted on October 1, 2018 at 8:00 am
    Huge yardings of young sheep for sale tells the tale. Prices slumped acvordingly.

    And if you read John’s comments, as I do, it all happened in a space of a couple of month.

  138. DrBeauGan

    Why 16? Why not five-year olds?

  139. calli

    Those lift harridans are enjoying themselves because they know they’ve won.

    Men are too browbeaten to challenge them on their “rape” b/s. The fat scold in Harlequin’s link is the same. It isn’t hysteria, it’s triumphalism.

    London to a brick none of these women will ever reproduce.

    Women with sons need to wake up fast. It will be their boys being put through the wringer next, and it’s already happening. I’ve had The Conversation with my daughters regarding the danger to my grandsons and the pressures that will stunt their development into normal, happy young men. I suggest others do the same.

    The battleground has shifted. The ball’s in your court ladies.

  140. Dr Faustus

    Christine Blasey Ford has not been contacted by FBI yet in Brett Kavanaugh investigation: Source

    Since the president’s order Friday, Ford’s lawyers have had no contact with the FBI, a source on the legal team told ABC News on Sunday.

    The New York Times first reported that Ford’s legal team had reached out to the FBI and, by Sunday afternoon, had not heard back on requests to interview their client.

    A lie detector and “powerful, convincing testimony” will only take you so far. Looks like bums are twitching in the nest at the prospect of Professor Ford being confronted by FBI investigators with facts and evidence and stuff.

    Time to reclaim the narrative…

  141. I am bespoke

    calli
    #2828772, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:44 am
    Evidence helps too, Bespoke.

    Agreed In this case lack of evidence.

  142. DrBeauGan

    This post-puberty bias is shocking.

  143. Farmer Gez

    The bad seasons in the last twenty for Northern Vic.
    2002, 06,07,08, 14,15 and now 18.
    It’s a shit cycle we’re in.
    The 80’s and 90’s really only had two shockers and a couple of light years. The good old days.

  144. Dr Faustus

    Giving 16-year-olds a say will help our country.
    Another peak beckons in the Stupidity Mountains.

    The country needs more voters entirely unaware of the origin of free stuff.

  145. Mark A

    calli
    #2828785, posted on October 1, 2018 at 8:05 am

    The battleground has shifted. The ball’s in your court ladies.

    Intentional or not, well put.

  146. Top Ender

    Will be most amusing watching Shorten try to wriggle out of his former idiotic statement…

    Gold? Shorten’s diversity rainbow leads to a crock

    NICK CATER

    Imagine the boxes that prospective Labor MPs will have to tick when Bill Shorten introduces his promised rainbow quotas.

    State your sexual preference: Is it (1) excitingly unconventional or (2) boringly straight? If (1), do you identify as L, G, B, T or other? If (2) go straight to the back of the queue.

    Matters of sexual intimacy were once a private matter. Now they have become a political statement to which benefits accrue. This is where we’ve arrived thanks to the fetishisation of diversity, a system that determines one’s group identity and its position on the ladder of virtue and victimhood. It is as rigid as the Indian caste system.

    To be white, heterosexual and male is to be the equivalent of an untouchable, denying the right to have a view on anything except one’s own privilege.

    It is five years since Shorten promised rainbow quotas to win support in his bid for the leadership. The Left is losing patience. Having won the argument on same-sex marriage, it is hungry for a fresh symbolic cause.

    Oz link

  147. Tel

    Those lift harridans are enjoying themselves because they know they’ve won.

    They haven’t won unless the American citizens vote in the mid-terms to approve that sort of behaviour. Personally I think more people are fed up with the Democrats and their double standards on civility.

  148. Tailgunner


    Laura Ingraham

    @IngrahamAngle
    SOROS STRIKES AGAIN: Flake screamer/assault victim is co-exec. dir. of the Soros-funded left-wing group Center for Democracy & Center for Democracy Action Fund. #astroturf
    Make the Road Action
    @MaketheRoadAct
    These two heroes, who confronted @JeffFlake this morning, just changed the course of the Kavanaugh process. We❤️you so much, @AnaMariaArchil2 and Maria Gallagher. #StopKavanaugh

    The chicks in the lift were Soros drones.

  149. Top Ender

    Not even a metre of steel cut yet, but…

    Australia may be forced to refit its entire fleet of Collins-class submarines and operate them for ­another 30 years because long ­delays in beginning construction of the navy’s 12 new subs risks eroding the nation’s strategic military edge in the region.

    Link

  150. Snoopy

    Oh dear.

    This Doesn’t Look Good: Business Was Listed Operating Out of Christine Ford’s Home – Would Explain Second Door

    Don’t miss the business listing at the bottom.

  151. calli

    I wasn’t thinking about political implications, Tel. It was more an imagined ascendancy over men, with “rape” as the weapon. And men are buying it, or if they don’t, very few will challenge it.

  152. Zatara

    That scene in the lift with two women, obviously acting, screaming at senator Flake. Was it for real, or were they rehearsing for some zombie apocalypse movie?

    They were fake and it was a set-up.

    Ana Maria Archila, one of the women who confronted Jeff Flake on the elevator at the Capitol after he said he was voting for Brett Kavanaugh, is the co-executive director for the Center for Popular Democracy and the Center for Popular Democracy Action Fund.

    The Center For Popular Democracy is heavily funded by George Soros.

  153. John Constantine

    TFI, thomas foods meatworks, are getting so much stock offered direct over the hooks that they were no quote at last weeks auctions. The big flush is coming out of the south australian south east, up until now running a magic season.

    Victorian western district about to start the spring lamb flush.

    Unfortunately, finishing lambs to the desired fat cover over the loins has been hard this season. The drop from pushing nine bucks a dressed kilo a month ago to quoted six bucks forty a kilo direct to the works over the hooks this week [ signed up, but lambs to be held for two or three weeks until delivery] shows people willing to sell off their trading stock to save feed for core breeders.

    The supermarkets are blending in this low loin fat cover cheap lamb and selling at the same rate they were getting for the well finished nine bucks a kilo lamb.

    Lot of stories about how this gets done, big dollars for some and a heavy, sticky, dark marinade over the chops, displayed on a dark tray under blue light covers a lot of bastardry.

  154. Tel

    I’m sorry, but belief in Open Borders proves that Libertarians really aren’t that smart at all.
    It proves that can’t even SEE the f$cking problem, let alone contemplate solving it.

    Is it smart to persistently refuse to actually read the policy of the only libertarian in Parliament, and then make up a different policy and then blame the guy for the thing you just made up?

    That doesn’t look crazy to me, that just comes across as devious and dishonest.

    The LDP policy is not and has never been for “Open Borders”, it has been for people to pay their way and if they can’t pay they have to leave, and that includes payment to be allowed to come in the first place. It also keeps all the existing background checks and criminal checks in place. If you are paying for tickets to see a cricket match, is that an “Open Border” around the cricket match? If you have to buy tickets to see a movie, is the cinema open to everyone?

  155. DrBeauGan

    The chicks in the lift were Soros drones.

    This explains why they were enjoying themselves. I’d be happy if I could be paid for bad acting and screaming in public. How do I get in on it?

  156. 2dogs

    Those lift harridans are enjoying themselves because they know they’ve won.

    Do they? There’s a 2/3 chance the Republicans will keep the senate. So even if they delay the vote until after the midterms, Kavanaugh is still likely to be confirmed.

    In the meantime, the destruction of the Democrats’ credibility is paring back their likelihood of taking the house.

  157. Tel

    And men are buying it, or if they don’t, very few will challenge it.

    That’s why we have secret ballot, men don’t need to challenge it openly, they still get their say. It only takes an extra 10% of men who don’t normally vote in mid-terms, to get up and bother to vote Republican because they don’t want to see the Dems win, and that will send a real big message. They don’t need to confront anyone, don’t need to explain anything, just vote and get on with the day.

  158. Tel

    Bastiat wrote about many things.
    We were discussing Libertarian Philosophy.

    None of the other political parties are interested in Bastiat, so the libertarians own him if for no other reason that having heard of him.

  159. Nob

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
    The next assault will be on the secret ballot.

  160. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2828806, posted on October 1, 2018 at 8:30 am
    This is f$cking hilarious.
    Jordan Peterson destroyed in interview.

    I don’t mind silly, stimpmeister, but that fails miserably.

  161. John Constantine

    The nineties were appalling years to be a grazier, twenty bucks a lamb and lucky to cover rates and shearing and pasture management from a woolcut, let alone build a business. the tail end of the wool stockpile reserve price scheme was a crushing disaster.

    This season although dry is miles ahead of the crappy financial wet droughts of the nineties.

    Plenty of mallee blokes have sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hay out of their sheds, not unusual to see an embarrassed bloke trying not to admit he has cracked the million dollar hay sale for the year.

    All underpinned by strong livestock prices. [ and turnbull’s dumping irrigation water out to sea unused to rewild australia theory.]

    The chicom belt and road push to open up central asia for PLA exploitation has set a time limit on how long we can live off the sheeps back though.

    Not anytime soon, but eventually, the chicoms will send capital and social change to transform the massive sheep range of central asia from peasant nomads struggling subsistance grazing to capital intensive high production methods.

    Increase wool supply to reduce prices.

    The new highland clearances.

    Comrades

  162. John Constantine

    Had a crack at some sheep at the Swan Hill sheep sale last week, but as i am fully stocked on a looking forward feed budget back of envelope, anything bought means immediate culling off of other parts of the flock.

    Upgrading looking forward productivity is worth it at a price, but the cheapies on offer don’t lift 2019 productivity enough and the top end has too big a changeover cost.

    Auctionsplus, the online ebay for sheep now has a dedicated weekly light lamb auction and prices on this open market are better than direct to works prices. [ unless the online bidding is stooge bidding.]

  163. John Constantine

    https://en.tengrinews.kz/markets/Sheep-population-goes-down-in-Kazakhstan-18285/

    17 million sheep in kazakhstan, belt and road infrastructure and chicom capital and highland clearances could lift this rapidly.

    Be down to sixty odd million sheep in australia in 2019.

  164. DrBeauGan

    The new highland clearances.

    Comrades

    John C, I agree with your analysis. But the chance that anyone in the political class will see it is negligible. They can’t think ahead more than two years in the best case, and two minutes is the average.

  165. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpy, they are on to you over at the Guardian….

    Comment on piece about gerbil worming…

    Logically, the only conclusion I can come to is that we are indeed ruled by lizard people and they need a warm climate for their young. Otherwise this course of action is totally insane. Our great leaders aren’t insane, right? So they must be David Icke’s lizard people.

  166. Senile Old Guy

    The LDP policy is not and has never been for “Open Borders”, it has been for people to pay their way and if they can’t pay they have to leave, and that includes payment to be allowed to come in the first place. It also keeps all the existing background checks and criminal checks in place.

    But until we see people actually deported, this remains a fantasy. Right now, activist lawyers and judges continually block attempts to deport people, so they stay here, with the entire charade paid for by the taxpayer. The LDP policy may not be “Open Borders” but until the activist court system is changed, it effectively is.

  167. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Associated Press
    @AP
    BREAKING: California becomes first state to require publicly traded companies to include women on their boards of Directors.
    5:09 AM · Oct 1, 2018

    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

  168. Nick

    Good to see that a put piece defending tatooo laden footy flop, Mo Hope, is getting a pasting in the comments at the Age of all places.

  169. SOG, that is not the only example of the justice system buggering things up.

    Oh for a constitution. My kingdom for constitution!

  170. Tel

    Right now, activist lawyers and judges continually block attempts to deport people, so they stay here, with the entire charade paid for by the taxpayer.

    Who’s running the country at the moment? Libertarians?

  171. Leigh Lowe

    calli
    #2828772, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:44 am
    Evidence helps too, Bespoke.

    Particularly, as in the case of Betty Frord, it is bespoke evidence, tailored to fit up the target perfectly.

  172. duncanm

    The Associated Press
    @AP
    BREAKING: California becomes first state to require publicly traded companies to include women on their boards of Directors.
    5:09 AM · Oct 1, 2018

    got to keep that flood of companies leaving Ca going.

  173. Stimpson J. Cat

    Who’s running the country at the moment? Libertarians?

    Of course they aren’t.
    And they never will.
    Get that through your incredibly smart head.

  174. Nick

    Turnbull:

    “When you stop being prime minister, that’s it,” he said.

    “There is no way I’d be hanging around like lipid [an insoluble fat] Kevin Rudd or Tony Abbott. Seriously, these people are like, sort of miserable, miserable ghosts.”

    Haahaahahaaahaha. He seriously said that. How deluded.

    Speaking before the recording was aired, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said he sympathised with his former boss.

    Of course. The fuckwit.

  175. Senile Old Guy

    Right now, activist lawyers and judges continually block attempts to deport people, so they stay here, with the entire charade paid for by the taxpayer.

    Who’s running the country at the moment? Libertarians?

    Oh please! Let’s live in the real world. In the real world, Australia is run by the left: the ALP and LNP. Minor parties may control the Senate but the upper house cannot introduce legislation. So the government will be run by the ALP and LNP. The ALP is open borders (though they deny it) and the LNP is…well, who knows.

  176. Snoopy

    Wow That President Macron sure knows how to party.

    What in God’s name is in his fist?

  177. Tel

    The ALP is open borders (though they deny it) and the LNP is…well, who knows.

    So the libertarian policy is “Open Borders” and we know that because all the majority of non-libertarians who run the show have imposed an “Open Borders” policy, which we then blame the libertarians for.

    And for that reason, never vote LDP, better to vote for the mainstream parties because of that horrible libertarian “Open Borders” policy.

    Makes perfect sense. Mitch does have a reasonable point I think about the conservatives consistently scoring low on cognitive tasks.

  178. jupes

    The LDP policy is not and has never been for “Open Borders”, it has been for people to pay their way and if they can’t pay they have to leave, and that includes payment to be allowed to come in the first place. It also keeps all the existing background checks and criminal checks in place.

    As I’ve pointed out numerous times this is bollocks on stilts. Importing people regardless of where they are from and with no limit on numbers is the textbook definition of open borders.

    The ‘pay your way’ caveat would be easily and ruthlessly exploited by a cashed up ideology aiming to expand its size, like, I don’t know … Islam for instance.

    I can’t believe that sensible people on this blog still hang their hat on “background checks”. FMD how are they working out at the minute? Somehow I don’t think “background checks” will be much of a defence when a couple of million cashed up, mosque building Muslims decide to move here under an LDP government.

    And let’s not forget that it’s LDP policy to scrap Operation Sovereign Borders, so we’ll have a few hundred thousand reffos to contend with as well.

    Let’s just thank our lucky stars that the LDP will never form government.

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Like many, I don’t watch Saturday Night Live (even though I past hosted it) – no longer funny, no talent or charm. It is just a political ad for the Dems. Word is that Kanye West, who put on a MAGA hat after the show (despite being told “no”), was great. He’s leading the charge!
    12:57 AM · Oct 1, 2018

  180. Nick

    Strange that in the call for quotas in almost everything, there is silence about topics such as the ABC. Perhaps it’s views should reflect the huge percentage of taxpayers who are conservative.

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    Makes perfect sense. Mitch does have a reasonable point I think about the conservatives consistently scoring low on cognitive tasks.

    Good idea!
    Call people stupid, that will make them vote for you.
    Genius!
    Meanwhile David Leyonhjelm is writing the lyrics to his new Christmas song to sing in Parliament this year…..

  182. Border protection is one of the few things where government should be involved.
    The LDP appears to confuse liberty with anarchy.

  183. I am bespoke

    The left loves the constant bickering between conservatives and libertarians.

  184. DrBeauGan

    Good idea!
    Call people stupid, that will make them vote for you.
    Genius!
    …..

    Stimpy, Tel isn’t standing for parliament. And if someone is stupid, it is a kindness to point it out to them, although a waste of time because they won’t believe you.

    It’s all academic because hardly anyone will vote libertarian anyway.

  185. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy, Tel isn’t standing for parliament.

    What the f$ck are all these hundreds of thousands of Libertarians doing then?
    Can’t create a utopia without a Government.
    It’s all so tiresome.

  186. Snoopy

    The first black president of France.

  187. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat

    I see you ignored the post above about the lizard people causing global warming.

    That means you must be one of THEM!!!!

  188. Senile Old Guy

    So the libertarian policy is “Open Borders” and we know that because all the majority of non-libertarians who run the show have imposed an “Open Borders” policy, which we then blame the libertarians for.

    I am not blaming the libertarians for current policy. It is just not obvious they would be better.

    And for that reason, never vote LDP, better to vote for the mainstream parties because of that horrible libertarian “Open Borders” policy.

    In the lower house, your vote is either discarded or ends up with the ALP or LNP. I wish it didn’t but that’s how it works.

    Makes perfect sense. Mitch does have a reasonable point I think about the conservatives consistently scoring low on cognitive tasks.

    Making your point by making an insult. Well argued. And I am a swinging voter. I have voted for sensible independents.

  189. thefrollickingmole

    fred of newness

  190. Top Ender wrote at 8:17 am that
    Australia may be forced to refit its entire fleet of Collins-class submarines and operate them for ­another 30 years because long ­delays in beginning construction of the navy’s 12 new subs risks eroding the nation’s strategic military edge in the region.

    Can anyone confirm please that the French once canceled contracts with Is******* for patrol boats and Russia for an aircraft carrier?

    Dates and sources would be appreciated please.

  191. H B Bear

    Wow That President Macron sure knows how to party.

    Does his Mum know he is out?

  192. zyconoclast

    Christine Blasey Ford has not been contacted by FBI yet in Brett Kavanaugh investigation: Source

    A deliberate go slow VicPold style or are they interviewing everyone else first so they can line up her lies?

    I hope trump set a time limit.

  193. C.L.

    More womenist Nazis call for abolition of evidence and proof …
    At an ABC Online story about men allegedly stalking women with drones …

    Onus of proof needs changing: prosecutors

    There are concerns laws are not keeping pace with digital developments.

    Prosecutors told the ABC their biggest challenge to combating these methods was the rules of evidence of the court, in particular the onus of proof.

    Currently, prosecutors have to be able to show the court it was actually the perpetrator who hit ‘Enter’ on a harassing message.

    The same goes for drones. Prosecutors have to be able to prove the perpetrator was flying the drone at the time.

    NSW Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Jones said many of the examples could be covered by existing trespass or stalking laws and encouraged people with suspicions to make a report.

    He said tracking software and spyware were a particular problem, but he conceded the existing legislation did have limitations.

    “A lot of these laws were written prior to surveillance devices being as prevalent as they are now and certainly prior to some of the social networking apps,” he said.

    “It’s [a] very hard crime for the police to investigate and certainly to obtain sufficient evidence.

    “If legislation was to change, that reverses onus, for example, that may well be a positive means for police.”

    The Office of the eSafety Commissioner boss, Julie Inman Grant, has heard “stories.”

    The federal Office of the eSafety Commissioner is trying to arm victims to fight these digital intrusions through its eSafety Women initiative.

    “Really what I want to focus on doing is empowering women and other Australians with the strategies and the information that they need to be able to effectively combat this,” Commissioner Julie Inman Grant said.

    The commission’s staff are hearing a rising number of anecdotal reports of misused drones as staff travel the country running workshops for up to 5,000 domestic violence advocates and law enforcement officials…

    Commissioner Grant said the misuse of technology will “never fail to surprise” her.

    We’ve heard stories of a woman who’s escaped interstate, and she started getting and humiliating texts from her former husband,” she said.

    “She couldn’t figure out how he knew what she was doing until she went out to feed the chickens one day.

    “She heard a distinctive whirring overhead and her former partner was monitoring her daily movements through a drone over her safe house.”

    The ABC headline for this screeches …
    Perpetrators using drones to stalk victims in new age of technology fuelled harassment.
    —————-
    So there you have it: there are now generalised demands for “reverse onus” – meaning if you have a vagina you can accuse any man of anything and he has to prove he’s innocent.

  194. Zatara

    France looking for warship buyers after cancelling Mistral deal with Russia

    France balks on delivering Two Mistral class helicopter carriers ordered by Russia due to sanctions.

    It appears Egypt has bought them. What for? Who knows.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    A deliberate go slow VicPold style or are they interviewing everyone else first so they can line up her lies?

    Almost certainly the former.

    Comey blasts Kavanaugh probe deadline, says FBI shouldn’t have ‘shot clock’

    Ah, that Mr Comey. Seeing that the FBI said there was nothing to investigate when Ford first surfaced, and since Kavanaugh has been investigated 6 times already, having Comey inject himself like a bad batch of smack is poetic.

  196. egg_

    It will be interesting to see if Bawwie (co-leader of theirABC Melbournistan fiefdom) will continue to parrot Murdoch Derangement Syndrome conspiracy theories regarding chairmanship and MD.
    Right now he is asking why Waffleworth is not PM. For the umpteenth time

    Because anyone-but-Trumble would make a better show against Tits.

  197. Viva

    So this is where feminism has led.

    I am Woman hear me roar!? Don’t make me laugh

    How about I am a woman child hear me snivel!

    Well done Pristine Crazy Fraud. You’ve done us proud.

  198. Top Ender

    Sorry T29E, haven’t kept up with French arms contracts.

    They do have an enormous military export arms business though.

  199. Tel

    France balks on delivering Two Mistral class helicopter carriers ordered by Russia due to sanctions.

    It appears Egypt has bought them. What for? Who knows.

    I remember reading about that some years ago (this is an article for 2014).

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-ukraine-crisis-france-mistral/france-says-can-not-deliver-first-helicopter-carrier-to-russia-idUKKBN0GY1Z120140903

    I guess these deals take years to get sorted out. What I don’t understand is why any defense force wants these helicopter carrier ships? Why did the Australians want the Canberra-class “Landing Helicopter Dock” of all things? If we had equipment like that for the Gallipoli landings in WWI it might have been useful… but WTF are they intending to do with these in the 20st century that’s dominated by missiles and drones?

  200. Roger

    “’Really what I want to focus on doing is empowering women and other Australians..’. Commissioner Julie Inman Grant said”

    From the eSafety Commission website:

    “The eSafety Commissioner is responsible for promoting online safety for all Australians.”

    Bad enough to have this nanny state commission in the first instance, worse knowing it employs a task force of public servants running around the country “empowering women”/demonising men.

    Was it established by the Liberals?

  201. Tel

    20st century => 21st Century.

    +1

  202. Hey T29E, Zatara and Top Ender, regarding the French once canceled contracts with Is******* for patrol boats etc . . .

    See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherbourg_Project

    The Is^^^^^ Navy survey recommended that the Cherbourg-based CMN shipyard owned by Félix Amiot would build the boats, based upon the Is^^^^^ demands. The boats were constructed by the French and the MTU engines were German-designed. . . . Crews were sent to France in early 1965. . . . . After the Six-Day War, . . . . The French president . . . stopped the export of weapons to Is^^^^.

  203. Dr BeauGan:

    That scene in the lift with two women, obviously acting, screaming at senator Flake. Was it for real, or were they rehearsing for some zombie apocalypse movie?

    That scene plus the outcome, are very worthy of closer and louder examination.

  204. Death Giraffe

    That scene plus the outcome, are very worthy of closer and louder examination.

    ..
    Looked choreographed to me. Location, camera angle, actors.
    What sort of fucking loser would allow himself to be a willing part of a scene where some filthy harpy screams “Look at me when I’m talking to you”! and uses that as his excuse to wimp out?

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