We need to keep talking about Germany: unprecedented wastage of resources

An update on the debacle of unreliable energy in Germany.

Germany’s Federal Audit Office has accused the government of a catastrophic mis-management of the green energy transition (Energiewende). The wastage of resources is “unprecedented”.

Maybe we need to use the language of alarmism – terrible things are going to happen if we don’t take drastic action, OMG it is so bad that it might be too late.

Actually alarmism may be appropriate in this case, unlike the situation with the beneficial warming we have enjoyed and the greening of the planet from the additional plant food in the air!

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24 Responses to We need to keep talking about Germany: unprecedented wastage of resources

  1. Muddy

    One of the first steps must be to undermine their image and reputation in the eyes of the general public (forget the deep-freeze believers), with the goal of making political support for their economic insurgency untenable.

    The tactics need to be multi-layered and relentless. One of many options is to divert attention from the vague concept of ‘the environment’ and focus specifically on issues that their brethren-in-hysteria use themselves, such as race or ‘inequality.’ Use catchy or evocative labels such as ‘pro-poverty’ or ‘growth deniers.’ Emphasise the practical effects their policies will have on indigenous people, the third world, etc.

    None of the above will work in isolation. The point is that simply enjoying the vibes in our echo chamber will get us nowhere. Start using our brains to derive strategies and tactics that will achieve what the world needs.

    If the Year Zero crowd, the Go-Gulag! people can make use of such strategies and tactics to achieve their delusional ends, so can we. We have to.

  2. Leo G

    The Federal Government explained its refusal to conduct a transparent cost-benefit analysis of the Energiewende by saying that these costs could only be compared with a “counterfactual scenario”

    Any ghee vendor should know the importance of clarity.

  3. RobK

    The wastage of resources is “unprecedented”.
    It is alarming. It is preditory to those who are forced to pay for the waste by those selected, who benefit through statute. It is unsustainable environmentally and economically. All forms of energy have their place. Using them appropriately will yield the best return over many generations, in fact; for ever.

  4. Genghis

    I wonder if they ever thought that closing their Nuclear plants would have a difference.

  5. duncanm

    at least 160 billion euros

    holy guacamole!

  6. Are the German nuclear plants capable of being brought back into operation?
    Or did they get the RAF to knock them down?

  7. Singleton Engineer

    Three separate issues.
    1. The climate – whether it is warming or not is almost irrelevant. The point being, that if CO2 is the culprit then CO2 reduction becomes a goal – but Germany’s efforts have not achieved the promised result. National CO2-e emissions are trending flat, not down. FAIL

    2. Nuclear power phase-out. Germans inherited some pretty poor nuclear power stations about 30 years ago. They are on their last legs and in need of replacement. Unfortunately, the Japanese Fukushima accident came along 7 or so years ago and the anti-nuke campaigners swung into action, seemingly oblivious of the fact that not a single person had died due to exposure to radiation. So the “get rid of them all” brigade didn’t need a rational argument – they established a religion. Replacing the old nuclear power stations with modern designs would have been cheaper, safer and have had a much larger impact on CO2 emissions than anything that has so far been achieved or will be achieved in the foreseeable future. FAIL #2

    3. The Great Solar and Wind Swindle. Due to the low capacity factors of solar PV (<10% in Germany) and cf's of 25 to 40% for wind, the nuke-poor Germany now derives a larger portion of its electricity from lignite, black coal and gas than ever before. More "Renewables" always means more fossil fuel consumption. They come together, with the Unreliables ("renewables") as the minor partners. Coal and gas are the biggest winners. FAIL #3

    Hence the massive expenditure on W+S, regardless of what camp you are a member of in the climate/CO2 debate, was entirely wasted, but wait… there's more!

    Germany's electricity industry now has a carbon intensity (emissions) of almost 800 g/kWh. Next door, France achieves a carbon intensity well below Germany's at about 50g/kWh and has retail electricity prices about half of their neighbour.

    Germany has wasted 20 years and a large fraction of a trillion euros, just to stand still environmentally and cost everybody more for a less reliable energy supply. FAIL #4.

    Not a single goal has been reached.

  8. Singleton Engineer

    Oh, while I am at it…

    Many more Australians die due to solar radiation than will even fall victim to nuclear power. Currently skin cancer knocks off more than 2000 Australians every year, yet the noise coming from anything to do with nuclear power or even medical and industrial applications might suggest that radiation from those sources is a major killer.

    It is not. Rounded to the nearest whole number, it is probably zero, Australia-wide.

    Ionising radiation is a killer, but not when managed properly. Sunlight contains ionising radiation. Greens’ policy in this area are unjustifiable nonsense.

  9. Fat Tony

    Singleton Engineer
    #2829104, posted on October 1, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    Not a single goal has been reached.

    Crap – I bet someone has made a financial killing (intentionally, but not publicised as a goal)

  10. Rafe Champion

    That goes without saying☺

  11. Dr Fred Lenin

    The catch phrases could be “power prices” ,deaths from cold or heat”” carpetbaggers “ “corrupt politicians “ ,”bribe takers” “job destroying” “foreign control of power” “ lying corrupt politicians “”conflict of interest” “ muslim invasion” “ welfare bludgers “” African illegals crime gangs “ “arrogant betrayal of Australia “ there a few for the sloganeering=ers to go on with and every one is True .oh and of course High Treason a Capital offence .

  12. H B Bear

    The Federal Government explained its refusal to conduct a transparent cost-benefit analysis of the Energiewende by saying that these costs could only be compared with a “counterfactual scenario”

    Climate change modelling is a “counterfactual scenario” unless the world starts to get warming soon.

  13. Muddy

    “No Coal for Coloureds.”
    “A recent study has shown that a Gaia-inspired genocide of Africans is likely to be become reality within the next 20 years, without access to the cheap coal that has enabled those outside Africa to prosper…”

    “Lights Out: 100 Million Africans to die by 2035 in Greens’ master-plan to deny affordable energy to non-Caucasians.”
    “We Need to Make Sacrifices” says pro-poverty extremist…”

    etc.

  14. Muddy

    Change the conversation to something that will put these parasites on the defensive.

  15. cohenite

    The science that says CO2 is blowing up the Earth still counts because as soon as you point out the stupidity of renewables the argument defaults to the horror of the climate apocalypse.

    Talking points like carbon pollution which has done more for alarmism and renewables than 5 IPCC reports, are necessary as are a coterie of scientists and lots of money and a lot more favourable media reporting.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Change the conversation to something that will put these parasites on the defensive.

    Why? They already refuse to debate climate because every time they do they lose.
    I say keep doing it. Hitting lefties with a truth-cluebat is awesomely entertaining. Confronting one with an actual graph is fun, their eyebrows scrunch up and they can’t answer. Sky News should commission a show of this, it’d be hilarious.

  17. min

    Interesting summary of research of what people think and know about climate change ,renewables and costs in the Oz today. What it demonstrates is that most do not have a clue ,spout misinformation, think renewables are cheap etc. and how difficult it is going to be for coalition to get an accurate message across. High energy prices and blackouts will be the only way to do it.

  18. a happy little debunker

    THIS is the reason that Trump questions the way Germany has been busy cosying up to Russian gas, whilst undermining NATO.

    These extreme policies have global implications that make the world less safe.

  19. Empire 5:5

    Cultural enrichment by candlelight.
    Welcome to the Fourth Riech.

  20. Dr Fred Lenin

    Why don’t we make people laugh at the bullshit the media vomits over us daily it is so contrived it’s a Bloody joke .these wankers are treating us like idiots ,laugh at them. Mock them for the tossers they are.
    Another form of attack would be to reveal who is making all the money out of this bullshit,soros gore,the Clinton gang the union mafia,turnbull etc the figures can be found on the net . Find a number and multiply it by ten that’s what these bastards do. The left are strangers to the aTruth always have been .
    Mocking and the the Truth will destroy globalist fascism .

  21. billie

    is there any country or state that hasn’t ended up looking stupid by going the full green?

    it’s like there’s shadenfreude growing on trees now!

  22. Nob

    If the Year Zero crowd, the Go-Gulag! people can make use of such strategies and tactics to achieve their delusional ends, so can we. We have to.

    “We” – engaged in productive pursuits – don’t have time.

    The bullshitters have all the time in the world, funded by us.

  23. Jonesy

    Trip home from Brisvegas on weekend…coming through Coonabarrabran and Gilgandra…would love to have a big sticker for the signs crowing about support for no CSG in their shires…“Don’t Worry About Turning Off The Lights!”

  24. Muddy

    Bruce of Newcastle

    #2829212, posted on October 1, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    Change the conversation to something that will put these parasites on the defensive.

    Why? They already refuse to debate climate because every time they do they lose.
    I say keep doing it. Hitting lefties with a truth-cluebat is awesomely entertaining. Confronting one with an actual graph is fun, their eyebrows scrunch up and they can’t answer. Sky News should commission a show of this, it’d be hilarious.

    Beyond our echo chamber, that changes nothing, Bruce. As you and I and everyone else knows, their definition of ‘truth’ is different from ours. Our ‘truth’ they will ignore because it does not compute with their inflexible ‘truth.’

    Simply waiting for it all to fall apart is exactly how we got to this point. As many others have observed, you cannot debate or reason with the irrational. They will not ‘see the light.’ The light must be brought to them while they are metaphorically tied and sedated.

    It is a delusion to think that we need do nothing but observe and smirk.
    Future generations will wipe us from the historical record for our apathy, and deservedly so.

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