A political horror story from Bob Carr of all people

From The Oz: Brexit is diverting attention from Jeremy Corbyn’s red flag radicalism. And do not for a second think this might not happen here.

Jeremy Corbyn vowed to reverse Thatcherism at last month’s British Labour conference in Liverpool. Picture: AFP
Jeremy Corbyn vowed to reverse Thatcherism at last month’s British Labour conference in Liverpool. Picture: AFP

If next year Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister of Britain, this political figure, hitherto dwelling in the margins of politics, becomes a world historical figure.

Historic figure? After being in politics for 35 years and serving on the frontbench only when he became leader? But how else to view it? Corbyn is proposing the reversal of Thatcherism, the 1980s program of privatisation and union-busting implemented under the Iron Lady’s leadership, and thought by all to be irreversible.

One columnist has branded Corbyn’s program an “unapologetic onslaught on the crumbling neoliberal order”. He should have added, “And not just in Britain.” If Corbyn wins and starts peeling Thatcherism from the statutes, he will provide an irresistible model for other European centre-left parties being devoured by right-wing nationalists.

Given this, it’s surprising the reaction to his speech to the British Labour Party conference on September 26 was so muted. Here he was proposing the renationalisation of water, rail and the Royal Mail; a tax on second homes to fund expansion of public housing; board-level representation of employees; and pulling 65 per cent of workers under 25 on to a guaranteed minimum wage. Most radically, his government would appro­priate 10 per cent of every company’s shareholdings on behalf of employees and the state. Plus grant free childcare.

In 1983, the last time the Left controlled British Labour, MP Gerald Kaufman branded its explicitly socialist manifesto “the longest suicide note in history”. It helped Margaret Thatcher consign Labour to 27.6 per cent of the vote in her 1983 landslide.

Right now, however, the red flag radicalism is escaping attention because the debate over Brexit is sucking the air out of British politics. But there is another factor: a striking shift in opinion. Fear of nationalisation and chaotic economic management were, until Tony Blair, well-tested rallying cries against Labour. No more. Expanding the state is popular. Two-thirds of the electorate wants railways back in public ownership. Only 17 per cent of the electorate think capitalism is working for them. Voters born after Thatcher are Corbyn’s strongest supporters.

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36 Responses to A political horror story from Bob Carr of all people

  1. This seems to be popular everywhere of late. Even in the US, surveys indicate that a frightening proportion of millennials and others are fully supportive of Socialism. I guess because most haven’t experienced the full brunt of Socialism and supporters keep saying that it hasn’t been done right, they think it’s a great idea. They simply won’t accept that the likes of Venezuela represent Socialism being applied properly.

  2. Genghis

    I recon and I could be wrong but there are a fair number of sensible Labor politicians that would not let the Frog-mouth owl get his policies through.

  3. I forgot to mention that crap such as climate change is aimed at the likes of the millennials and blamed on Capitalism, and this too becomes a supportive tools for advancement of Socialism.

  4. stackja

    Young voters have no understanding of socialism. Maybe they need a lesson. Chaos and shortages might be apt.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    If Corbyn becomes PM it will be entirely and utterly Theresa May’s fault.
    All she has to do is pilot a solidly conservative course and she wins.
    Unfortunately she is a female Turnbull.

  6. 2dogs

    next year Jeremy Corbyn becomes prime minister of Britain

    How would that happen? The next election is 2022.

    There will be three years after Brexit next year before the next election.

    Plenty of time for the failed predictions of post-Brexit apocalypse to totally destroy the credibility of the hard left in Britain.

    Plenty of time to dissect Corbyn.

  7. John Constantine

    Using Net Present Value calculations, it could be argued that their Australian One Party State has confiscated more than ten percent of the equity of listed Australian companies, if you consider the way the state has declared Company bottom line expenses must be increased and the money used for State phantasies.

    If you take the slice of chocolate cake and tell everybody you didn’t take the slice of chocolate cake, but you have a face damn well totally covered in chocolate icing, it is obvious what has really happened.

  8. If you take the slice of chocolate cake and tell everybody you didn’t take the slice of chocolate cake, but you have a face damn well totally covered in chocolate icing, it is obvious what has really happened.

    That analogy could well be used in the Kavanaugh case. No Democrat and nor numerous Republicans noticed the chocolate icing on Ford.

  9. Squirrel

    “Brexit is diverting attention from Jeremy Corbyn’s red flag radicalism” – perhaps, but mainly in the sense that it still (though chances seem to be dwindling) holds for many the hope of a solution to the feeling that they are being screwed by the elites. Brexit focuses the anger on the globalists; Corbyn will be after the lot, including well-to-do Little Englanders who hate Europe.

    The only reason we haven’t got it quite as bad here is that the debt-funded ‘Strayan bubble has yet to pop, and the rest of the world is still buying enough of our primary production exports (and assets) to keep the current account manageable and imports and o/s travel affordable for most of the punterariat. When (not if) the luck runs out, it’s going to get very, very interesting here, too.

  10. Old School Conservative

    Ayn Rand scathingly destroyed Corbyn’s manifesto years before he articulated it.
    Does her writing get analysed or remembered any more?

  11. Percy Popinjay

    Why has Brexit not taken place? The vote was held back in June 2016, FFS.

    Oh, that’s right – loathsome, arrogant, unaccountable parasitic f*ckwits unashamedly ignoring the will of the electorate.

    Gee, like that’s never happened before.

    I warned Brendan O’Neill about this.

    Khan and Corbyn – lap it up, imbeciles, you deserve it.

  12. Roger

    How would that happen? The next election is 2022.

    While the UK has fixed terms, there are several mechanism by which a general election could be brought on next year (or thereafter). Pundits have been predicting an early election for at least 6 months as May flounders on Brexit.

  13. jupes

    Fear of nationalisation and chaotic economic management were, until Tony Blair, well-tested rallying cries against Labour. No more. Expanding the state is popular. Two-thirds of the electorate wants railways back in public ownership. Only 17 per cent of the electorate think capitalism is working for them.

    Oh well, you get the government you deserve.

    Britain is now a nation of idiots who will welcome their new communist overlords.

  14. rickw

    Young voters have no understanding of socialism. Maybe they need a lesson. Chaos and shortages might be apt.

    Toilet paper, food and iPhones are my preferences for a socialist driven millennial supply shortage.

  15. Hay Stockard

    If Bob Carr told me the sky was up I would go and check for myself.

  16. egg_

    Toilet paper, food and iPhones are my preferences for a socialist driven millennial supply shortage.

    +1

    The Greens were outraged by the lack of mobile coverage during the Queensland floods.
    /Irony challenged

  17. B.A.Lert

    Corbyn, the next cromwell

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Toilet paper, food and iPhones are my preferences for a socialist driven millennial supply shortage.

    A hour’s queue to buy the most basic of foodstuffs….”I’m sorry, it’s here we don’t have cheese, it’s next door where they don’t have meat.”

  19. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Europe is leading the charge to the new Dark Age

  20. jupes

    If Bob Carr told me the sky was up I would go and check for myself.

    Here’s Carr seemingly criticising socialism in Britain while leading the push for the Communist Party of China to infiltrate Australia.

    I was going to call him a fuckwit of the ocean-going class but he is much more than that. He is a traitor.

  21. mem

    If Bob Carr told me the sky was up I would go and check for myself.

    When Gillard made Carr Minister Foreign Affairs the papers were keen for a photo and Bob obviously
    didn’t have time to clean out his home office. Right behind Bob’s announcement portrait stood a statue of Mao Tse Tung . I’ve never forgotten that and agree with your comment above.

  22. Dr Fred Lenin

    Corbyn is a typical fascist Narxist even ;]looks like one of those sleazy union stirrers in Uzk movies of the past you know the one who stirs up the wild at strike then vanishes back to party HQ when things get tough Forward comrades side by side and back to back we will march backwards into the 1920s with our glorious leaders leading from behind . VERMIN DALEK THEM .

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Right behind Bob’s announcement portrait stood a statue of Mao Tse Tung . I’ve never forgotten that and agree with your comment above.

    I’ve seen the commemorative museum, to the victims of the Khmer Rouge, in Cambodia. Along the wall, there are all the photographs of those taken to the killing fields. There’s a letter, from a group of Socialist Swedish schoolteachers, for chuck’s steak, congratulating the Khmer Rouge, on the work they are doing….how I never burst a blood vessel, I will never know.

  24. Hay Stockard

    Corbin and Gareth-Gareth Evans. Seperated at birth?

  25. NuThink

    In the late 70’s or early 80’s in the UK there were artificial shortages of a few essential household items. Rumours spread for instance that toilet paper would be in short supply so people bought up big so then there were shortages.
    One British newspaper joked that salt would become scarce because the (proverbial) Siberian Salt miners had gone on strike, resulting in panic buying of salt. The paper had to retract and explain that it was only a joke and that the UK did not get their salt from Siberian salt mines.
    Ruby Wax in one of her shows went to Russia and had a suitcase full of toilet paper. The Russian customs did not get the joke.

  26. H B Bear

    Wayne Goosesteen seems determined to cash in on the Corbyn zeitgeist here in Oz.

  27. IainC of The Ponds

    Corbyn, the next cromwell

    That’s very good.

    Bob Carr seemed to be positively salivating at the prospect of Corbynist fascism. Bob, please Google “Venezuela”, you do not seem to know of its existence.
    The popularity of socialism with the young is somewhat understandable, since belief in the benefits of socialism require naivety, immaturity of experience, an unsophisticated world outlook, limited education and a blind trust in what people say versus what they actually think and do. Transfer of this belief into adulthood is more sinister, and betrays a deep, dark malevolence of the soul. As I have written before, paraphrasing (possibly) Georges Clemenceau, ”if you are a socialist by the time you are 20, you may be a sociopath; if you are still a socialist by the time you are 40, all doubt is removed”. As is demonstrated daily, all socialists spend every waking moment in teeth grinding terror that, somewhere, someone is happy with their life.

  28. struth

    I always think how odd it is to ask young Australians whether they think democracy, freedom and western capitalism is working well.
    They’ve never experienced it.

  29. Crossie

    Hay Stockard
    #2833225, posted on October 6, 2018 at 8:51 pm
    If Bob Carr told me the sky was up I would go and check for myself.

    Bob Carr is also the reason why not enough roads were built in Sydney, and NSW generally, during his premiership to handle the growing population and outward suburban sprawl. He hated cars and was all for public transport but didn’t bother expanding. He took great delight in demonstrating how he didn’t need cars by flying everywhere in helicopters.

  30. Dr Fred Lenin

    That fraud Corbin pretending he’s my grand uncle Vladimir , the beard ,the gestures the rhetoric straight off the Vladimir Ulyanov book of revolution ,he and his half brother relation Gareth Gareth Evans are dinosaurs . Corbin is Waiting for Charlie Battenberg to inherit the throne so the comrades can throw him out ,maybe even use the the Islamic option on him in orange overalls . Can’t see the real British people letting that happen ,someone would take him out ,to kill the viper cut off th head .
    We don’t talk about uncle Volodya in our family , ,hes like Poor Graham in the attic ,not discussed in public.

  31. Myrddin Seren

    Ruby Wax in one of her shows went to Russia and had a suitcase full of toilet paper. The Russian customs did not get the joke.

    Anecdote O’Clock

    A local mining Coy CEO I am acquainted went to Venezuela a couple of years ago to look at a mine his parent company was looking to buy in to.

    At Caracas Airport the local rep give him a bag with soap, shampoo and toilet paper. Being an austere sort of guy, and not as focussed on current affairs as your typical Catallaxian, he binned the extra weight.

    Arrival at the minesite showed the insight of the local rep – there was nothing in terms of basic amenities and pretty much everything that could be striped and carried away had been, including the toilets and fixtures in the bath house.

    Socialism. Forward Comrades!

  32. Myrddin Seren

    Shot:

    Right behind Bob’s announcement portrait stood a statue of Mao Tse Tung.

    Chaser:

    Talking of China, Turnbull has extravagantly praised Mao Tse-tung, who he claimed made the Chinese “stand up” (apart, that is, from the tens of millions he had murdered who are still lying down), and he has spoken of Mao’s revolutionary transformism as if it were some kind of example for Australia.

    The urge to iron-fisted rule is strong in these ones.

    Kind of explains why our foreign policy and regional defence posture has a ‘Vichy’ smell about it, eh Comrades ?!

  33. Myrddin Seren

    Corbyn’s Labour Party might seem to be ‘problematic’ for our friends of the Mosaic faith, if past performance is any guide to future outcomes as a government:

    Labour’s pockets of anti-Semitism: the evidence

    EXCLUSIVE: Jeremy Corbyn’s secret trip to Israel to meet Hamas

    Jeremy Corbyn has said he was present but not involved at a wreath-laying for individuals behind the group that carried out the Munich Olympic massacre

    That would be him being ‘not involved’ – by holding the wreath.

  34. Up The Workers!

    “A political horror story from Bob Carr…”

    Chinless Bob’s autobiography, perhaps?

  35. Up The Workers!

    Chinless Bob and the Human Mung Bean, Jeremy Corbyn – both of these flaccid, insipid, pasty-faced vegan-looking individuals are comprehensively unroadworthy – The A.L.P.’s Carr having never possessed a Drivers Licence in his life, and the ‘very fashionable’ Pommy Mung Bean (dressed exclusively by a Salvo’s Op Shop) sticks to his bicycle – it complements his socks, sandals and soap-phobia.

    Like Chinless Bob, Corbyn doesn’t like cars – which should come as no surprise at all to all those tens of thousands of former English car industry workers who lost their jobs when England effectively lost its motor vehicle industry through the incompetence and traitorous activities of the likes of Corbyn and greedy Leftard Union bosses.

    Hard to believe that a nation which once boasted of Winston Churchill as its Leader, is possibly just one election away from having this comically inept figure of fun and flatulence as its next Prime Minister.

  36. .

    What jupes and others said. Bob Carr. Next.

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