Open Forum: October 6, 2018

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  1. Fifteen Fathoms to Davy Jones locker.

  2. Sweet Sixteen and never been kissed except by Kav the Legend.

  3. Seventeen kegs lifted by Kav the Heroic Worker/Drinker.

  4. Eighteen is the loneliest number that you ever knew…

  5. Nineteen eighty four is an instruction manual not a novel…

  6. Twenty Twenty vision, only in retrospect.

  7. Twenty Two caliber – good for bunnies.

  8. Twenty four carat stupid – that’s for Montys Wrongology Award.
    Everyones a winner!

  9. Twenty five satellites around the planets of the solar system + or – lots.

  10. Twenty six thousand years ago, the first Aboriginal set out for the moon on the good ship Woomera.

  11. Twenty seven inches was the distance he/she/ze travelled before white man gravity stopped the attempt.

  12. Twenty eight inches across was the width of the crater old Oomalolo made in re entry.

  13. Twenty nine – the well is running dry, only 29 inches of water left.
    Abandon Perth, all ye who sail in her!

    (Flannery)

  14. Thirty bastards out there waiting for my fingers to drop off from exhaustion.

  15. My next door neighbours cat is thirty one today.

  16. Actually, it’s thirty two. Inches underground.

  17. Thirty three geraniums growing out of my next door neighbours cats arse.

  18. Thirty four times I have regretted started this record attemppt.

  19. I have thirty five cans of XXXX in my fridge.

  20. I had thirty six a few minutes ago, but I drank one and the sun isn’t up!

  21. My other neighbours dog barked thirty seven times last night.

  22. I still haven’t gotten to sleep because while the dog was barking, I drank thirty eight cups of coffee.

  23. Mark A

    Carpe Jugulum
    #2834056, posted on October 8, 2018 at 4:59 am

    You are on a roll Winston

    Thanks Carpe, my fingers were on the keyboard too.

    I let him go on before and he took advantage, no more nice guy.
    These titles have to be hard fought for and earned in bitter combat.

  24. The thirty nine steps. Anyone remember that movie?

  25. Mon dieu! Pinged at the fortieth step!
    I will be back…

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Room 101 for you Winston.

  27. Five cups of coffee overnight in an attempt to destroy this migraine, + two endone.

  28. Damn. I was trying for a stealth posting.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any confused Cats who want to see Tom’s hard work, go here:

    Tom
    #2834031, posted on October 8, 2018 at 4:13 am

    Two Leak cartoons today!

  30. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2834092, posted on October 8, 2018 at 5:31 am

    Any confused Cats who want to see Tom’s hard work, go here:

    Now I’m confused, they are where they supposed to be, the very place I first set eyes on them this morning.

  31. Mark A

    PS, sorry see what you mean.

  32. Eyrie

    Can we resolve the Cat clock issue? I suggest the Cat operates on Zulu time. The Clock botherers have not got to that.

  33. pete m

    It should be on true time, aka qld time, where the sun rules!

  34. calli

    Someone gave Winston the green cordial.

    Own up.

  35. calli

    Or….it’s all that #Winning.

    Has strange effects on people.

  36. Baldrick

    Some people have too much spare time on their hands.

  37. Megan

    Start the day with a giggle or seven. Come read the Cat…Better than any comedy festival in the country.

    Sorry about the migraine, Winston. Been there many times. Hope it leaves you alone soon.

  38. Bruce of Newcastle

    I wonder when Winston and Arma will get the message?
    The alligator on the front doormat didn’t work:

    Alligator snapped in unexpected position outside Louisiana home

    Nor did the flying deer:

    WILD VIDEO: Cyclist almost taken out by flying deer

    For the entirely predictable verbal response, this one is worth an embed…

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You guys! You do go on a bit. (Sorry to hear you were not well, Winston.)

    And some people think I waste Sinc’s generous free pixels with a little bit of travel blogging, even when I do it it during off-peak rates – pixels cost half of nothing in these hours. Everyone knows that, as Stimpy often says.

    I was here last night Australian time from 11.12pm to 1am while Hairy was hàving an arvo nap beside me in Israel. He is on holidays and has still had to get up early for tours. I do not need such nàpping and thus donated my precious me-time to ponderous pecking out words for yuz all. After which I end up in moderation twice because of the J word. Auto-correct seems to have snuck in again. Selectively.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Anyways, time for bed here now. Funny old upside down world that it is.

  41. Farmer Gez

    Four Corners attack agriculture again.
    Tonight we get the Roundup scare story.
    They are now accusing the APVMA (Federal regulator) of being compromised because they are funded in part from fees imposed on the companies seeking registration.
    The ABC are basically saying the scientists and experts involved are corrupt.
    Scum of the earth.

  42. calli

    Thanks for that, Bruce.

    Just about to go driving through the States for five weeks. Bambi is clearly just as bad as Skippy. Except they’re out and about in broad daylight.

    Running around like a chook with its head cut off getting ready for housesitters – as usual, lined up like drinks on a bar. Taking time out for Tom’s Toons.

  43. calli

    Scientists according to ABC:

    Environmental 😇

    Chemistry 😈

    Stick to Playschool guys. It’s almost at your intellectual level.

  44. Peter Campion

    Got this in my region’s daily paper today….

    The Editor

    We’ve waited for decades now for even one climate alarmist prediction to come true. None have.

    Actual weather measurements have shown that the alarmists’ computer models run far too hot.

    The underlying equations in those models have been proven wrong mathematically.

    None of the IPCC’s reports have shown any link between CO2 and temperature.

    But what if it’s even worse than that? What if “greenhouse theory” itself is wrong?

    What if the temperature of the atmosphere is determined solely by the weight of the air, the pull of gravity and the heat of the sun?

    What if it turns out it doesn’t matter one little bit what the mix of gases in the air is?

    Will the alarmists and their UN enablers apologise and refund the billions we’ve wasted and restore our factories and jobs?

    (135 words)
    Peter Campion

  45. Tonight we get the Roundup scare story.

    I had a look at the ABC web site earlier today (one for the team), nothing about Kav appointment.
    I presumed this was temporary while they were working on a new divisive article.

  46. rickw

    Just checked out 3D printers as a possible solution to providing APCs and tanks for a wargame.

    Bloody hell they are expensive!

    I use XYZ DaVinci 1.0’s, $400 to $700. I use Slic3r to generate the paths, the supplied slicing software is crap.

  47. rickw

    Just incase anyone needs firing up to go and kick some leftist arse:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Txn0UPHJlE

  48. John Constantine

    Their abc and their cancer council attacking roundup.

    Their turnbull would have signed a transnational convention banning it already, maybe their bishop has already signed a loophole committing australia to unswervingly banning roundup as soon as possible.

    The chicoms make oceans of it, so will not be funding activists to overthrow the West this way.

    Shortselling Bayer on the strength of a roundup ban is too risky, so the looting cartels won’t be funding it.

    The ban is simply sought by the wests own hysterical economically suicidal homegrown activists.

    Warning Alert self interested political comment follows.

    [things like this will make me vote coalition, not labor this coming election. I cannot have any effect on green/labor shorten banning roundup, but i reckon if i get a couple blokes to wander into a lift with me, and have them block the door while i have a friendly chat with a coalition in name only pollie that might weaken on roundup, no shoving included, there is a chance of stiffening their spine.
    The elevator scream theory works for their left.]

  49. rickw

    Their abc and their cancer council attacking roundup.

    Post Industrial Society almost achieved, post Agricultural Society is the next objective.

  50. classical_hero

    Winston didn’t see that Carpe had already messed up his first attempt. Imagine if he thought he broke the record not realising he didn’t. 😄

  51. classical_hero

    Justice Kavanaugh should celebrate with a nice cold one out in the eyes of the public.

  52. Top Ender

    Thanks Rickw, for the printer info; the Kavanaugh song link, and the T-shirt info.

    A good start to the day.

  53. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s the end of a thread so here is a story from yesterday afternoon.

    I was out for a walk. I saw a young guy came out of a house on the other side of the road. He was a keen skateboarder: he was carrying two skateboards. Went to the end of the drive and settled down and waited in the light drizzle for his mate who had the car.

    What he saw out the corner of his eye was a large old guy across the road, who was wandering along the path and stopping and looking intently at trees. Gradually he gave more attention at this odd behaviour.

    Then the guy stopped and stuck his arm out. A kookaburra landed on it. The fitful watching became a wide-eyed stare.

    She was my wandering and very hungry friendly kooka. She sat on my arm for a couple of minutes and took on board a vast amount of food. Then flew off. I waved at the skateboarder, who was still staring, and went away in the other direction. I have the feeling he couldn’t believe his eyes.

    It’s been kooka fun here these last few weeks. The old lady kooka had been coming by for 7 years, but recently went off to find a termite mound in a tree to excavate a nest hole in. She didn’t like the nest box I put up: no it must be a termite mound or nothing.

    While she was away another lady kooka moved in. Fairly old herself, she hooked up with the young son of mum kooka. Young son is two and now has himself a cougar kooka! He’s been following her around everywhere like a puppy.

    She is not so fussy – it looks like she will nest in the nest box. Which is a problem for the previous owner: she’s out in the cold.

    So I went off to see if I could see the tree my old friend was building a nest in. I couldn’t spot it, but she spotted me. And a young guy got his mind expanded.

  54. Top Ender

    A good comparison with the Salem witch trials and the Kavanaugh situation:

    Kavanaugh survival a triumph over mob will
    NICK CATER

    Having satisfied a Senate committee he is neither a witch nor consults with familiar spirits, Brett Kavanaugh enters the US ­Supreme Court to advance the blessed cause of common sense.

    The crumbling of the sexual ­assault allegations against Kav­a­naugh is a serious blow to #MeToo, the creep-shaming campaign that empowers anyone with a Twitter account to be their own chief prosecutor.

    The weekend confirmation of Kavanaugh’s appointment could be a turning point, like the one in Salem, Massachusetts, when the public realised that witch-hunting was getting out of hand.

    The evidence that Kavanaugh tried to remove Christine Blasey Ford’s clothes at a drunken high school party is so weak that it was effectively on life support. Ford can tell us neither the house nor the neighbourhood where the misdemeanour took place. She cannot remember who drove her there nor who drove her home, and no one has identified him or herself as her driver.

    None of the three fellow party­goers she named can tell us where the party was held. Indeed, none of them can remember a party being held.

    She is unable to jog their memories with the date. In one account Ford said it happened in the “mid-eighties”, in another she said she was in her “late teens”. Finally she settled on 1982, when she was 15.

    We do know, however, the date Ford broke her silence to name her assailant. It was July 6 this year as news firmed that Kavanaugh would be President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court choice.

    Ford named him, she tells us, out of a “sense of urgency to relay information to the Senate and the President”. She relieved her sense of urgency by placing a call not to the White House or the Senate but to the news tip hotline at The Washington Post.

    As corroborating evidence, she supplied to the Post’s unsceptical reporter her therapy notes. They were evidence not of what happened but what Ford felt had happened, and how she felt about what she felt had happened, and how she felt those feelings might have contributed to her issues, ­issues she undeniably has.

    The reporter seemed to feel she had the evidence. Her editor seemed to feel so too, and felt it should be published in the hope the Senate committee too might feel Ford’s pain and the pain of any other victim of a man they felt was a lascivious little creep.

    In the search for truth, Ford’s therapy notes are as reliable as the spectral evidence accepted by the Massachusetts court that tried citizens accused of the capital crime of witchcraft.

    Spectral evidence consisted of accounts of dreams and visions in which witnesses had been tormented by a witch’s spectrum. The witch would frequently appear as the figure of a black cat, raven or other menacing beast clearly recognisable as the guilty figure standing in the dock.

    Evidence was corroborated by the fits of anguish witnesses would break into in the court, outbursts not dissimilar from the behaviour of the “believe her” protesters outside the Senate last week.

    The banning of spectral evidence by the Massachusetts magistracy reduced the conviction rate to zero. All the convicted witches were released, save for the six men and 14 women who ­remained in the unconsecrated ground in which their executed bodies had been buried.

    Justice, Salem-style, throws light on the careless destruction of reputations by uncorroborated ­allegations of sex crimes in today’s accusatory world. The laying of an allegation, whether in Salem, The Washington Post or the Royal Commission into Institutional ­Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, costs nothing. Defending an allegation can cost your life savings and reputation, with scant hope of recompense.

    The accusations of children ­remain inviolate and accusers can expect a sympathetic ear. ­Contradictory evidence for the prosecution is explained away as the result of trauma; all evidence from the defendant is rigorously interrogated.

    The crime under investigation, be it witchcraft or sex abuse, is placed in a special category, so ­serious that the normal rules of evidence are waived. Distinctions are blurred and proportion is lost. Drunken teenage groping ­becomes as serious as rape.

    A sexual allegation is the ­nuclear option in the armoury of ad hominem warfare. Trump’s progressive opponents have no qualms about deploying it, and no respect for the ­presumption of innocence or the rule of law.

    They are fighting a bigger cause in defence of righteousness against the forces of evil. The witch-hunts of the 17th century, like creep hunts of the 21st, satisfy an instinct to separate the saved from the damned. It is a desire as strong on today’s progressive Left as it was among North America’s Calvinist early settlers.

    “The co-existence of the contradictory notions of certainty as to who was saved, and ultimate ­uncertainty on the subject, helped produce that characteristically New England Puritan mix of smugness and fear,” wrote the American historian Frances Hill in A Delusion of Satan. “Tolerance was not a virtue but laxity.”

    There is hope that Kavanaugh’s survival in the face of these allegations shows that neo-puritanical intolerance may be close to exhaustion.

    Among Republican supporters and fair-minded Democrats, ­Kava­naugh’s reputation has been enhanced, just as Trump’s was by the swivel-eyed campaign to brand him a predator. Even critics, such as The New York Times columnist Bret Stephens, have sided with the President and backed his nominee on the grounds that letting the mob win would be worse.

    His appointment encourages the hope that political correctness will eventually succumb to the laws of gravity by collapsing under the weight of its own absurdity.

    The lesson for Trump haters is contained in Newton’s third law: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The President’s support is galvanised by their overreach and grubby politics. If they want to refill the swamp, they must first climb out the mud.

    Nick Cater is executive director of the Menzies Research Centre.

    Oz complete article

  55. John Constantine

    Dekulakisation of australian agriculture and the clearances of rural electorates and the rewilding of the land are all part of fashionable decolonialisation theory.

    Pushing to ban roundup costs them nothing, controls the media cycle and inculcates hysteria in the eating public.

    Crop topping and dessication for harvest and hay freezing are all current uses that can be weaponised as food terror.

    https://www.agric.wa.gov.au/lupins/crop-topping-pulse-crops

    https://www.mla.com.au/research-and-development/Grazing-pasture-management/weed-control/seed-contamination-of-carcases/options-for-managing-grass-seeds/

  56. John Constantine

    If roundup and paraquat are lost as management tools to combat grass seed infestation of sheep, their Paris agreement to cut livestock numbers gets ever closer.

  57. Entropy

    The Eoli expect everyone to be a university lecturer, journalist, politician or phone sanitiser in the future.
    Tradies and other morlocks are to be invisible.

  58. Entropy

    rickw
    #2834124, posted on October 8, 2018 at 8:05 am
    Their abc and their cancer council attacking roundup.

    Post Industrial Society almost achieved, post Agricultural Society is the next objective

    The Eoli expect everyone to be a university lecturer, journalist, politician or phone sanitiser in the future.
    Tradies and other morlocks are to be invisible

  59. Nick

    Thanks for posting the Cater article TE.
    You can bet that had it been the other way around, the Salem witch trials would be trending on Twitter. Not so much when it’s a man involved for some reason.

  60. Top Ender

    State codifies ‘white privilege’ slur for bureaucrats

    MICHAEL OWEN

    Government departments in South Australia have been criticised for seemingly forcing ­bureaucrats to acknowledge “white privilege” in Aboriginal cultural awareness training.

    Conservative crossbench senator Cory Bernardi told The Australian that public servants had contacted his office in fear of losing their jobs after refusing to participate in the training, which required them to acknowledge their “white privilege”.

    “I’ve had public servants contacting my office, fearful for their jobs because in good conscience they cannot undergo this man­datory indoctrination,” Senator Bernardi said yesterday.

    “They are being discriminated against because political correctness and bureaucracy have run out of control under the noses of the major parties.”

    National debate over the use of the term “white privilege” erupted in January when it was revealed that new codes of conduct for nurses and midwives referenced “a decolonising model of ­practice based on dialogue, communication, power sharing and negotiation, and the acknowledgment of white privilege”.

    The codes do not require ­nurses or midwives to declare or apologise for white privilege.

    Two SA Health documents for “cultural” and “workplace” learning advise staff “there is an un­deniable relationship between the continuing impact of colonisation and racism on the current health status of Aboriginal people”.

    “Aboriginal people have been negatively impacted by inequitable government policies and the consequential ongoing racism and discrimination,” the documents say, noting that the ­material will “improve the ­cultural competence of the SA Health workforce through a ­better understanding of the impact of colonisation on Aboriginal health outcomes”.

    A “learning outcomes” section requires staff to define white ­privilege and the effect of white privilege on Aboriginal health.

    Staff are required to “challenge and respond to ‘racist’ behaviour and racial stereotypes” and “recognise the impact of white privilege on access to ­services”.

    The “learning frameworks” also require staff to explain cultural self-awareness and identify their own cultural values and practices, identify examples of “white privilege” and analyse how “white privilege” impacts on Aboriginal people’s experience of health care services.

    Premier Steven Marshall, who formed the first Liberal government in South Australia in 16 years in March, also has responsibility for the state’s Aboriginal ­Affairs portfolio.

    Mr Marshall’s own department “actively encourages public sector employees to participate in Aboriginal cultural awareness training”, according to its website.

    The South Australian Department of Environment, Water and Natural Resources has an online “reconciliation action plan” that states: “We seek to be able to better recognise the influence colonisation and white privilege has on the department’s internal and external interactions with Aboriginal people, their nations and communities.”

    Mr Marshall insisted that cultural awareness training was not compulsory.

    “Cultural awareness training is an option made available to public sector employees,” he said.

    “The use of the term ‘white privilege’ … (is) not a term that I would personally use.”

    Senator Bernardi said: “This politically correct nonsense is offensive, if not racist, towards many Australians.”

    Oz link – comments open – a few below:

    Ian
    9 MINUTES AGO
    This is blatantly racial discrimination against whites, worse still against all varieties of “whites,” apparently non-aborigines. I intend to complain to the Human Rights new Commissioner and I hope that many others will too.

    David
    12 MINUTES AGO
    I will vote for Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives for the Senate to endeavour to control some of this ridiculous and divisive identity politics and excessive political correctness. Vilification of people with pale skin is nonsensical and wrong.

    Alan
    13 MINUTES AGO
    Had to happen. The snowflake generation has left school and university after years of indoctrination and found their way into policy units of the public service. They generally don’t end up at the coalface where the work is actually done so they seek to influence others without actually getting their hands dirty.

    Nathan
    12 MINUTES AGO
    White privilege says their health is my fault. When are we ever going to invite them to look at their own decisions that contribute to their own health outcomes? Why is this left out of cultural awareness training?

    Fred
    15 MINUTES AGO
    This PC nonsense is on the verge of a HUGE public backlash similar to the burgeoning #MeToo backlash currently underway.

    Jim
    24 MINUTES AGO
    Surely the Departmental Head can see this as racism. Surely code of conduct requires that all people are treated equally and that white people are treated with respect as it is the expectation that Asian, Pacific Islanders, Aboriginals, Africans, “brown people” etc.
    This is a test for the SA Government. If they allow racism to be promoted by a Govt Dept it will set standards that racism is permitted.
    The statement that “racism” training is not mandatory is a nonsense. Anyone not doing the training is logged in the HR system and is made available to all Managers….that is “kiss your career” goodbye.

    Michael
    30 MINUTES AGO
    Public servants should just be Public servants and not political activists. Our taxes pay their salaries to serve the public end of story!

    Tom
    30 MINUTES AGO
    More and more white Australians (yes they vote too) are fed up with this subtle but constant vilification, toxic multiculturalism. You’ll get my support Cory.

  61. Nick

    Those who wail about how racist Australia is and in the next breath, deride old white men need dealing with.

  62. John Constantine

    0-199 in the first two sessions on a rock hard road, in forty degree heat for the fast bowlers.

    3-56 in the last session, once the ball started to go reverse.

  63. Dave in Marybrook

    I am intolerant of the verb “learning” being used as a noun.
    It should here be replaced with “re-education”.

  64. I’m disturbed by the screams of agony as trillions of wheats and oats are mercilessly slaughtered with harvesters and roundup.

    All crops and grassland should be humanely anesthetized prior to harvest.

  65. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #2834137, posted on October 8, 2018 at 8:23 am
    State codifies ‘white privilege’ slur for bureaucrats

    MICHAEL OWEN

    Government departments in South Australia have been criticised for seemingly forcing ­bureaucrats to acknowledge “white privilege” in Aboriginal cultural awareness training.”

    Under a liberal government! Why do we bother?

  66. Baldrick

    When they go low, we go high…

    POLITICO ✔ @politico
    After failing to stop Kavanaugh’s confirmation, Democrats wonder if it’s time to be more ruthless

  67. Nick

    They will Balders, but they will lose as Trump will still get a pick, changing the Supreme Court for decades. Far better to accept reality and to negotiate a compromise.
    Mind you, I hope the experience turns Kavanaugh even more against the Left. Serves them right

  68. OldOzzie

    Senator Collins Announces She Will Vote to Confirm Judge Kavanaugh

    In:
    Press Releases
    Posted Fri, 10/05/2018 – 15:31

    Click HERE to watch Senator Collins’ remarks

    Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) delivered remarks from the Senate floor this afternoon to announce her decision to vote to confirm Judge Brett Kavanaugh to be an associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Her full remarks are as follows:

    Worth a read as the Article pointing to it said

    Susan Collins gave Senate Democrats the scolding they deserve

    In her nearly 45-minute speech that rocked the Senate floor and the country, Collins walked America through her logic and gave a stern scolding, calling the confirmation process something “that has become so dysfunctional it looks more like a caricature of a gutter-level political campaign than a solemn occasion.”

    With clarity, candor, and ferocity, Collins laid out her reasoning for voting “yes” for Kavanaugh. Largely: “The four witnesses she named could not corroborate any of the events of that evening gathering where she says the assault occurred.”

    Collins also did not hesitate to utterly skewer Democrats in their handling of this nomination, admonishing them. She spared no criticism for the Democrat who leaked Dr. Ford’s letter to the press originally and she said she hopes the last month’s antics will propel the Senate to ditch the current nomination process and find a new method of confirming judges.

    “I suspect, regrettably, we will never know who did it. To that leaker, who I hope is listening now, let me say that what you did is unconscionable. You have taken a survivor, who is not only entitled to your respect, but who also trusted you, and you have sacrificed her well-being in a misguided attempt to win whatever political crusade you think you’re fighting. My only hope is that your callous act has turned this process into such a dysfunctional circus that it will cause the Senate and, indeed, all Americans to reconsider how we evaluate Supreme Court nominees. If that happens, then the appalling lack of compassion you afforded Professor Ford will have some unintended positive consequences.”

    Collins makes an interesting point that few politicians, particularly on the Senate floor, have had the chutzpah to make: Not only was there little, if any, evidence corroborating Ford’s claims, but the more time passed, the more the FBI looked into the allegations, and the more the media seemed to collude with Democrats, the more the process looked like a dysfunctional circus masquerading as a political crusade.

  69. Roger

    National debate over the use of the term “white privilege” erupted in January when it was revealed that new codes of conduct for nurses and midwives referenced “a decolonising model of ­practice…

    Enough, for heaven’s sake.

    If we’re going to adopt “decolonising models”, let’s be serious and all go back to where we came from.

    Starting with the most recently arrived.

  70. mh

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    8h
    Amid Kavanaugh furor & threats to mbrs, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO) tells Fox that his wife received a text with a video attachment showing a gruesome beheading. Someone has has also released the names of and addresses of his family members.
    https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1048938951107645440?s=20

  71. Fairfax/ ABC plugging this research today:

    Rare study sheds light on Australia’s accidental pregnancies

    It is a little understood part of Australian life, but a new study has revealed a worrying number of women are falling pregnant accidentally, and hundreds of thousands could be having abortions.

    No accurate data on unwanted pregnancies is kept by Australian authorities, and even the number of terminations remains a mystery, with record-keeping patchy and inaccurate.

    Much of what happens around unwanted pregnancies in Australia remains behind closed doors.

    But a survey of more than 2570 women published in the Medical Journal of Australia has offered a rare insight into how women are reacting to the news of a positive pregnancy.

    It found that of the 1390 women who reported pregnancies over 10 years, more than a quarter (362) said they had an unintended pregnancy, including 94 who said their pregnancies were unwanted.

    Of the women who had accidental pregnancies, 110 (or 30 per cent) said they had abortions.

  72. Nick

    Nothing says protesting against violence against women by sending a beheading threat to an innocent woman.

  73. Old School Conservative

    Steve trickler
    #2833993, posted on October 8, 2018 at 12:06 am
    That was a brilliant. What a flight!

    Thanks for posting that excellent clip. Almost a boys own adventure.
    Having just endured a Dubai-Sydney flight on the halal food carrier Emirates in cattle class, I was in total envy of the on-board dining room and sleeping quarters of the PanAm clipper.

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    new codes of conduct for nurses and midwives referenced “a decolonising model of ­practice

    I don’t want any nurses decolonising me. I like my colon as it is.

  75. Roger

    Nothing says protesting against violence against women by sending a beheading threat to an innocent woman.

    She’s a white Republican and therefore guilty of benefiting from patriarchy and systemic racism, but she will get her comeuppance come the revolution.

    That’s how these people think, seriously.

  76. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe they mean this:

    DR. SAVAGE: Medicine journal recommends that doctors remove organs from still breathing euthanasia patients (BCF today)

    So if you wake up in hospital with a big suture across your abdomen and a book on the Graham Richardson Diet on you lap you’ll know why.

  77. struth

    Good Moaning.

    The truth being of course that the aboriginal people are suffering.
    Suffering from the very politics of identity and western hatred, practiced by these raging Marxists in our deep state.
    The ones who control aboriginal policy in all areas, the deep state,who we have given over full control to do as they please.
    Their goal is to use aboriginal people, not help them.
    It is the same with our children being brainwashed by the deep state in education.
    They are abusing children and aboriginals via many ways, controlling their lives by owning them, and producing the division and hatred toward the west which is always, their only goal.
    Their goal is always and in every instant to lay blame at the feet of their most hated enemy, the successful, and free western, capitalist civilisation.
    The terrible system of human happiness that so repulses them, the system created by western men they cannot stand, and just like the muslim world, socialists are too filled with hate, as the losing cultures, to ever learn what works, and copy it, or to concede they are wrong but instead keep warring, tearing it down.

    The truth is, that aboriginal people are suffering greatly in this country.
    They are suffering from the Marxist deep state that control their lives and have done so since sit down money started.
    A deep state the white people know hardly anything about, or what they are up to.

    For anyone out looking at this first hand, the human misery and abject degradation and squalor, kept out of sight by segregation, is unbelievably appalling.
    Caused by the very people now trying to blame white men and the west.
    Caused SO they can blame white men and the west.

    Again, whites do have some fault here.
    The reason we are going down, the fault that must be acknowledged, if we are to save ourselves.
    We have been apathetic in controlling our deep state.
    We have literally let them get away with murder, and now, it’s not just the aboriginals they’ll be killing.
    I put it to all of you that our Marxists imbedded in our institutions, our own deep state, is by far, by far, worse than that of the United States.

  78. Roger

    Their goal is to use aboriginal people, not help them…They are abusing children and aboriginals via many ways, controlling their lives by owning them, and producing the division and hatred toward the west which is always, their only goal.

    Aboriginal leaders are doing a good enough job of this themselves…all the state has to do is continue to fund them generously.

  79. calli

    The reporter seemed to feel she had the evidence. Her editor seemed to feel so too, and felt it should be published in the hope the Senate committee too might feel Ford’s pain and the pain of any other victim of a man they felt was a lascivious little creep.

    Good stuff from Cater.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    POLITICO @politico
    After failing to stop Kavanaugh’s confirmation, Democrats wonder if it’s time to be more ruthless

    Difficult to think of how they can be “more ruthless” given that they pretty much tore up and rewrote the ruthlessness book for Kavanaugh.

    I hope they don’t any ideas from the Saudis.

    Jamal Khashoggi’s friend says missing Saudi journalist was ‘killed in a barbaric way’

    The Saudi journalist feared to be dead after visiting his country’s consulate in Turkey last week was “killed in a barbaric way,” one of his friends revealed Sunday, following conversations with officials who reportedly told the friend to “make your funeral preparations.”

    The comments about Jamal Khashoggi come as Turkish officials are investigating his whereabouts. Khashoggi, a Washington Post contributor and critic of the Saudi government, was last seen Tuesday entering the Saudi Arabia consulate in Istanbul to obtain documents for his upcoming marriage to a Turkish woman.

    “What was explained to us is this: He was killed, make your funeral preparations,” Turan Kislakci, the head of the Turkish-Arab Media Association, told the Associated Press. “We called a few other places, these are lower officials, but they said: ‘We have evidence he was killed in a barbaric way, we will announce it tomorrow or the day after.'”

    Kislakci also alleged, based on conversations with officials he did not name, that Khashoggi, 59, was made to “faint,” then was dismembered. He also said he believes Turkish officials soon will announce the findings of their investigation.

    A Turkish official separately told The Associated Press that authorities believe Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi Consulate, while another said it was a “high probability” that Khashoggi’s body was taken away.

    That is in a category of ruthlessness that even Democrats might pause at. Presumably Saudi diplomatic bags are sealed well enough not to leak blood and bodily fluids in transit.

  81. OldOzzie

    From Comments in Zero Hedge Article

    Trump: “Angry Mob” of “Radical Democrats” Has Become “Too Extreme And Too Dangerous To Govern”

    There once was a justice named Bret
    who caused all the leftists to fret
    as their heads exploded
    While Soros imploded
    and Trump is not done with them yet

  82. hzhousewife

    No doubt in future midwives will be offering the choice of a humpy under a tree in the yard of the hospital as an organic place to give birth, or handing the husband a blade to perform the caesarian. My friend, a home nurse visitor, says she can’t do breastfeeding advice these days without new mum’s correcting her advice, because they’ve read all about it on the internet.

  83. Roger

    Jamal Khashoggi’s friend says missing Saudi journalist was ‘killed in a barbaric way’

    Memo to Saudi dissidents: If you find refuge in the US, don’t leave.

  84. Nick

    No doubt in future midwives will be offering the choice of a humpy under a tree in the yard of the hospital as an organic place to give birth, or handing the husband a blade to perform the caesarian. My friend, a home nurse visitor, says she can’t do breastfeeding advice these days without new mum’s correcting her advice, because they’ve read all about it on the internet.

    I think this is the way to go. Rather than admonish whites for their privelidge, give all who use services such as hospitals an indigenous option, with no judgement whatsoever. It would cost less too. Watch demanding white goodies as suddenly being a human right

  85. OldOzzie

    The Hill – FBI’s smoking-gun: Redactions protected political embarrassment, not ‘national security’

    By By John Solomon, opinion contributor — 10/07/18 01:30 PM EDT

    What makes this so extraordinary is that the FBI and the DOJ would have Americans believe that a contact with a lawyer for a political party during the middle of the election is somehow a matter of national security that should be hidden from the public.

    Well, that argument was proven to be a lie by the very way the interview with Baker played out last Wednesday on Capitol Hill. Baker was not interviewed in a “SCIF” – a “sensitive compartmented information facility” routinely used to discuss super-secret, highly sensitive information. There was no claim of classification over any information he provided Congress that day.

    So we can now say with some authority that the earlier redaction in Footnote 43 was done in the name of a national-security concern that did not exist.

    Which raises the question of what the real reason was that it was hidden from public view. I think the answer can be found in an earlier set of documents that DOJ and FBI fought hard to keep secret – the text messages of those FBI love-birds Pete Strzok and Lisa Page. What we learned from their messages was that the investigation was a whole lot more about politics and and a whole lot less about verified intelligence.

    There is now a concrete storyline backed by irrefutable evidence: The FBI allowed itself to take political opposition research created by one party to defeat another in an election, treated it like actionable intelligence, presented it to the court as substantiated, and then used it to justify spying on an adviser for the campaign of that party’s duly chosen nominee for president in the final days of a presidential election.

    And when, nine months later, the FBI could not prove the allegation of collusion between Trump and Russia, unverified evidence was leaked to the media to try to sustain public support for a continued investigation.

    That means the redaction of Footnote 43 had more to do with political embarrassment than with national security. And that should concern us all.

  86. hzhousewife

    Memo to Saudi dissidents: If you find refuge in the US, don’t leave.

    Interpol Head should have put off his visit to China also.

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kimberley Kitching caters for Labor’s conservative core

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    @gregbrown_TheOz
    11:00PM October 7, 2018
    106 Comments

    Labor senator Kimberley Kitching — a close ally and friend of Bill Shorten — is moving to create a bipartisan parliamentary group that will defend “Judeo-Christian” and “Western-liberal democratic” values as she launches her credentials as a new style of social conservative within the Labor Party.

    The Victorian, who was controversially hand-picked by the Opposition Leader to replace Stephen Conroy in the Senate, said she considered it part of her job to fight “smug elitism” and would seek to ensure the views of “inner-city elites” did not prevail over the “quiet wisdom of working people”.

    “I think that sometimes Labor insiders tend to be more small-l liberal in their views than the ­people who vote for us,” Senator Kitching told The Australian.

    She said the rise of the Greens had been good for the party as it helped create a “Corbyn-proof fence” that had protected Labor from the “more extreme and out of touch” parts of the Left. She also spoke against identity politics and virtue-signalling, saying it was intellectually “lazy” and had a negative impact on public debate.

    From the Oz. Would this be the same Kimberly Kitching that the TURC recommended be charged for her role in the H.S.U?

  88. .

    Labor senator Kimberley Kitching — a close ally and friend of Bill Shorten — is moving to create a bipartisan parliamentary group that will defend “Judeo-Christian” and “Western-liberal democratic” values as she launches her credentials as a new style of social conservative within the Labor Party.

    The Victorian, who was controversially hand-picked by the Opposition Leader to replace Stephen Conroy in the Senate, said she considered it part of her job to fight “smug elitism” and would seek to ensure the views of “inner-city elites” did not prevail over the “quiet wisdom of working people”.

    Oh great. Someone from the union machine wants to represent libertarians and conservatives now.

    Thanks, but we’ve already got our own people. The ALP has not represented working people since after the 1993 Federal election after it turned into a squishy, European style social democrat party.

    You can hurry up and retire now, Ms Kitching.

  89. struth

    Aboriginal leaders are doing a good enough job of this themselves…all the state has to do is continue to fund them generously.

    They are part of the deep state.
    Totally taxpayer funded, western hating, ……losers.
    This is what we are dealing with cultural Marxists and lefties generally.
    The loser cultures, and the loser politics, refusing to admit defeat, and chucking tantrums instead of admitting that simple , unarguable fact.
    Their cultures, their religions and their politics have been proven to be substandard, barbaric, failures.

    Where’s Monty these days?
    Still availing himself of the western white man’s medicine and hospital care?

    A dead set hypocritical loser.

  90. cohenite

    She’s a white Republican and therefore guilty of benefiting from patriarchy and systemic racism, but she will get her comeuppance come the revolution.

    That’s how these people think, seriously.

    From the anti-white privilege article in the NYT:

    These are the kind of women who think that being falsely accused of rape is almost as bad as being raped.

    If you think its not its just a short step to all accusers must be believed and due process and the presumption of innocence are not applicable.

  91. Roger

    Interpol Head should have put off his visit to China also.

    He resigned yesterday.

    Interpol accepted and have already replaced him.

    One hopes they’ve realised the idiocy they exhibited in appointing a Communist Party of China member as head, especially given that China has a record of abusing Interpol powers to arrest dissidents in exile.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    Interpol Head should have put off his visit to China also.

    He resigned yesterday.

    The red ink used for the letter of resignation had a strange familiarity?

  93. cohenite

    PM faces D-Day as IPCC reports on Paris targets

    Jennifer Oriel The Australian October 8, 2018

    The climate change wars have cast a long shadow over the Liberal Party. They will return with a vengeance this week in an early test of Scott Morrison’s leadership. The Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change is due to report on action required to meet the Paris Agreement target. While the Prime Minister has rejected the national energy guarantee, he has not withdrawn Australia from the agreement. As a result, the IPCC report will have direct bearing on the Coalition’s policy. The political stakes are high.

    Morrison’s mastery of energy policy will be put to the test in the coming week. After disposing of the NEG, he shifted the government’s focus from renewables to reliability. But Morrison’s new ministry is yet to produce a coherent framework for climate and energy policy. Without it, the government risks fracturing along factional lines. If Morrison fails to seize control of the energy debate this week, Labor will take the lead.

    The government cannot afford to lose the battle over energy policy. Despite some media hysteria about the NEG, there is popular support for a broad, national approach to energy reform among Coalition MPs. The government’s leading principle should be national energy independence. Its national policy should be developed in response to the question of how to make Australia energy independent to drive reliability, national security, economic growth, rational conservation, investor confidence and affordability.

    The national interest case for energy policy has been underplayed by successive governments. Yet, like many Western countries, Australia is experiencing a resurgence of patriotism. People are giving voice to healthy scepticism about the benefits to the free world of a globalised political order. Critics of the Paris Agreement contend it punishes the West for the benefit of the rest.

    President Donald Trump made the case in his speech to withdraw the US from the Paris accord. Compliance would have cost America up to 2.7 million jobs, including 440,000 jobs in manufacturing. The economic burden would be close to $3 trillion in GDP. While weakening America’s national economy, the Paris Agreement would boost the fortunes of China and India. China would be free to build coal plants and increase emissions substantially. India would claim billions in foreign aid from developed ­nations while doubling its coal production.

    We should know the price Australians are paying for the Paris Agreement, but successive governments have failed to defend energy policy in the national interest. The consequence is soaring power bills and price gouging by energy retailers. As Michael Owen reported in The Weekend Australian, summer bills are set to rise again. South Australia is likely to shoulder a heavy burden thanks to the former Labor government’s renewable energy policies. A survey has revealed that South Australians believe the biggest issue facing the state is “power supply and prices”. Morrison told The Advertiser that he was “not afraid to use a big stick on the big energy companies to stop the big rip-offs and will be making laws to do just that”. If it sounds familiar, it should. We have heard the line before, but ­prices keep rising.

    Despite the evidence of harm, Labor maintains a 50 per cent renewable energy target is in the national interest. However, as this newspaper has reported, bills are likely to rise by 84 per cent under a 55 per cent target using renewable sources of energy such as wind and solar.

    Confusion reigns in Australia’s energy policy. In part, the confusion arises from the technocratic nature of modern environmentalism. Much climate science is presented in academic journals that are not accessible to the general public. Expert findings are often couched in opaque terms. It is not a sound basis for informed public debate and the development of policy in the democratic tradition.

    The technocratic approach to environmentalism presents problems for policymakers. At times, they are required to advise MPs without being able to test the validity of hypotheses presented in technical reports. As a result, they must rely on the scholarly objectivity and honesty of groups such as the IPCC and UN. Unfortunately, issues with bias arise. The first major allegation of IPCC bias was made in 1996 when The Wall Street Journal published a damning article by Frederick Seitz, former president of the National Academy of Sciences. Seitz argued that the IPCC had published a report markedly different to the original peer-reviewed version. He alleged that almost all of the changes “worked to remove hints of the scepticism with which many scientists regard claims that human activities are having a major impact on climate in general and on global warming in particular”. Members of the IPCC working group strenuously denied the claims.

    There is much controversy surrounding the science of climate change. However, Australian policymakers will have little choice but to trust the IPCC report on limiting global warming to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

    The IPCC is sensitive to the perception that science has taken a back seat to ideology in its work. Chairman Hoesung Lee has emphasised the scientific basis of the upcoming report for policymakers. Last week, he cited UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres’s speech contending that climate change was the “great challenge of our time” whose size and nature had been revealed by science.

    However, Guterres also attributed a range of weather events to climate change without providing scientific evidence to support a direct causal relationship between them. They included a monsoon, a hurricane and wildfires, along with future extinction events. It didn’t help that he opened the speech in the language one might expect from the chancellor of a Star Wars galactic republic: “Dear friends of planet Earth.”

    The IPCC report will force the Liberal-led Coalition to reveal its hand. While still bound to the Paris Agreement, the government must find a way to prioritise the national interest by providing a plan to create resource independence, energy security, consumer affordability and sustainable conservation.

    If Morrison fails to provide national leadership on energy policy, the Coalition will fall as a house divided. Labor will seize the day.

    1/ The Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change is due to report on action required to meet the Paris Agreement target. Picture: AP.

  94. candy

    The Opera House is so beautiful. I don’t think I care for the advertising on it. PM Morrison calls the sails “billboards”, which seems tawdry. Tawdry too when the gay rainbows lights were over it. Why must be beautiful structures be interfered with. You wouldn’t put gay lights and ads on war memorials or the Statue of Liberty or the pyramids or Uhluru?

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wow, having just mentioned on the other thread that I didn’t know what Ms Oriel was saying in her article, now I know.

    She sure ain’t going to be invited to any Green happy holidays parties ever again.

    Way to go Jennifer!

  96. struth

    Jennifer Oriel

    What we are also sick of Jennifer, is journalists and opinionistas that only go so far , either too dumb, lazy, or unwilling to call it as it is.

    Gutturres and the UN are out and proud Global socialists.
    The UN doesn’t believe in Climate change or it wouldn’t have country selective policy, and believe only the west should pay.

    It’s not rocket science, and I and many others are getting mighty sick of journalists who just will not “go there”

  97. struth

    We really have to bring these journalists along, kicking and screaming.
    What a barrage of Dumb, or is it something else?

    The outsiders know, on Skynews, but they seem to prefer the periphery and never quite call it out for what it is.
    Talk about bloody frustrating.

  98. .

    Taylor is a good-hearted young thing but doesn’t understand individual property rights.

  99. notafan

    Talk to my daughter—the lion-hearted eldest child—whose first words are, “Can we, will we survive this?”

    They carried on like two bob watches when Trump won

    Two years later and they do it all again

    They must be EXHAUSTED

    the poor petals

    and sad sad Monty too

  100. .

    So many chans with broken hearts now.

    Where’s that hanging Pepe meme now?

  101. C.L.

    Good:

    Christine Blasey Ford still unable to live at home due to death threats, lawyers say.

    One of Ford’s attorneys, Debra Katz, told NBC’s Kasie Hunt that it’s going to be “quite some time” before Ford and her family can return home.

    Her family has been through a lot,” Katz said.

  102. Taylor is a good-hearted young thing but doesn’t understand individual property rights.

    No, understanding individual property rights is not the keystone to the getting of wisdom.

  103. Peter

    I have trouble believing the death threats story. Must try harder.

  104. .

    Christine Blasey Ford still unable to live at home due to death threats, lawyers say.

    Please show us the filed police reports.

  105. notafan

    How soon are we going to see the medical profession start rubbing possum faeces on people to relieve chest pain?

    Or little pellets of clay, if said possum droppings are not handy.

    Much much cheaper that a quadruple bypass and just as efficacious, surely

    Such is an excellent example immensely sciency medical remedies of Australian aborigines.

  106. Mark A

    C.L.
    #2834199, posted on October 8, 2018 at 10:35 am

    It’s all over for Trump:

    Taylor Swift breaks silence on politics, supports Democrats.

    One learns a new thing every day on the cat, now I now who T S is.
    Hope I won’t remember by tomorrow.

  107. Delta A

    Peter Campion
    #2834117, posted on October 8, 2018 at 7:46 am

    Excellent letter, Peter.

    We’ve waited for decades now for even one climate alarmist prediction to come true. None have.

    This is rarely mentioned in MSM. Small wonder so many gullible people accept AGW as gospel.

    Kudos to you for your efforts to push the truth.

  108. C.L.

    Christine Blasey Ford still unable to live at home due to death threats, lawyers say.

    It’s OK, though, because she has two front doors.

  109. .

    One learns a new thing every day on the cat, now I now who T S is.

    I also had no idea who Donald Trump was until 15 minutes ago.

  110. Roger

    PM Morrison calls the sails “billboards”, which seems tawdry.

    He’s an ad man punching above his weight, what do you expect?

    In any case, after they lit it up for “marriage equality” I say let’s have beer ads on there.

  111. struth

    Meow…………………….

    Dot is a big Taylor Swift fan………………………………….

  112. C.L.

    Meh.
    Real men advocate cigarette advertising for Ayers Rock.
    A Marlboro graphic would look pretty cool.

  113. .

    All chans were.

    What if I told you that Taylor Swift was an active 4Chan user?

    (A little sweary, but this Asian bloke is entertaining).

  114. Baldrick

    PM Morrison calls the sails “billboards”, which seems tawdry.

    Wake me up when leftards in Victoria stop turning publicly owned Ambulances and Fire Engines into Unionised billboards.

  115. dopey

    Speaking at Gleebooks this month.
    Gillian Triggs
    Sarah Hansen-Young
    Mike Carlton
    They sure have some pulling power.

  116. Boambee John

    Where’s Monty these days?
    Still availing himself of the western white man’s medicine and hospital care?

    Someone asked if he went “public” or behaved like the hypocrite he is.

    Given that he was blogging in the wee small hours, I suspect he had a private room.

  117. .

    C.L.
    #2834224, posted on October 8, 2018 at 10:55 am

    Meh.
    Real men advocate cigarette advertising for Ayers Rock.
    A Marlboro graphic would look pretty cool.

    I don’t know why big tobacco doesn’t declare “war” on the state.

    A $1000+ a kilogram excise tax is outrageous.

    Oh snap…is this why they’re basically banned from advertising?

  118. Jessie

    Perhaps the decolonising needed to bedone by nurses/midwives is both strategy is an underhand effort in a few areas:
    Work reform of the TAFE level indigenous health workers and such cultural social workers (endless courses avail) in further establishing culturally appropriate rule and hierachy of the ever increasing social/health programs. There has been a significant decrease in remote areas yet a significant increase in rural/urban of registered/unregistered aboriginal health workers and sorts since c1970 ideologies Now health workers included on the national registration of health care professionals.

    Legal aid in accident/violence blame compensation ongoing for decades and adoption spheres of the culturally appropriate to enable easier access and use medical/nursing notes held on the many ‘independent health service hardwares’ across the states will legitimise cases brought to court. Been done before.

    Silencing of others will be more effective, as it is now in apartheid territory.
    The scope is gi-normous in the health and medical field.

  119. candy

    In any case, after they lit it up for “marriage equality” I say let’s have beer ads on there.

    Well, true. But I just think the Opera House is really beautiful. It’s kind of like putting graffiti on it, with the gay light show and advertising.

  120. Senile Old Guy

    The piece in the SMH is by “Dr Lauren Rosewarne is a senior lecturer in the School of Social and Political Sciences at the University of Melbourne”. Oh dear!

    Sadly, Kavanaugh’s confirmation has acted to validate many of the fears outlined by women who said they chose not to report their alleged assault; mainly the fear of facing a culture that is venomously suspicious of victims.

    It is “alleged”, which I return to.

    Two central criticisms underpinned skepticism about Ford’s testimony. The first, and the most easily dismissed, is that it was political. As a political scientist I’d argue everything is political, but equally, I’d respond, so what?

    So it is “easily dismissed” by ignoring it? “So what”?

    The second, and more thorny factor, was time: ie that Ford took too long to report. Such a position of course, only makes sense to people who have never been in a situation of sexual trauma and who thus harbor delusions, or at least misinformation, about how a rational person would, or “should”, respond.

    Again, the response is simply to ignore the issue.

    Nowhere in the piece does this “lecturer” mention the lack of detail from Ford, except for it 100% being Kavanaugh. Nor does she note that no-one else can remember the party and several people have explicitly denied that the event took place. There is zero evidence for the “assault” except in Ford’s very confused memory.

  121. zyconoclast

    Taylor is a good-hearted young thing but doesn’t understand individual property rights.

    Except hers I suspect

    Taylor Swift is worth more than $300 million — see her bicoastal mansions, lavish vacations, and generous gifts to fans and friends

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    If even Taylor Swift has been forced into being political you can now know there is no centre.
    She has tried very hard to stay away from politics.
    But there was no escape, she’s been dragged into it.
    The pressure has been irresistible.

    No centre means there’s no one for LNPers to chase for marginal votes.
    The Left won’t let any of its own escape the asylum and vote to the Right.
    So the only strategy that makes sense for the Right is to adopt a squarely conservative policy.

    Then deprogram the voters one by one, away from the lefty religious cult – which is what it is.

    As each one surfaces from leftist fantasy they will vote for the Right.
    They would have no choice, like Lindsay Graham has worked out in the Kavanaugh fight.

    That, LNP, is your only chance.
    Do it or die.

  123. notafan

    has ‘attempted [email protected]’ been redefined as well

    as in ‘I just know he must have been thinking about it’

    or is the story he tried and someone else stopped him

    I am so over these people, that change the meanings of works and turn feelings into facts

    have they always existed or are they the product of the post war period?

    I like to think they have always existed but prior to the emergence of social media we didn’t hear quite so much of their yapping

    and twenty/thirty years ago they were sitting under pyramids and shutting up

  124. H B Bear

    Speaking at Gleebooks this month.
    Gillian Triggs
    Sarah Hansen-Young
    Mike Carlton
    They sure have some pulling power.

    Sounds like an invitation list to a Morry Schwartz J3wish vanity press Christmas party.

  125. It’s OK, though, because she has two front doors.

    Is that some sort of alphabet thing?

  126. cohenite

    https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/real-reason-mum-dates-strangers-cash-053944473.html

    Because you’re a prostitute and you fuck for money?

    Women are so helpless; they’re all like professor fibber ford. No woman has ever used her vagina to advance what she wants or doesn’t want or just because she feels like twisting a bloke. Ever.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    Pop star Taylor Swift on Sunday broke her career-long silence on politics to endorse former Democratic Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen over Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R) in the state’s Senate race.

    In an Instagram post, Swift wrote that Blackburn’s voting record “appalls and terrifies” her.

    Her last album tanked hard.

    She was always a leftie but now is desperate to turn things around.

  128. Infidel Tiger

    Pradheep J. Shanker, M.D., M.S.

    @Neoavatara

    Taylor Swift endorsing literally the only new Democratic candidate for the Senate this year that WOULD HAVE VOTED TO CONFIRM BRETT KAVANAUGH is pretty much the definition of where the Hollywood Elite are today.

  129. Mark A

    .
    #2834220, posted on October 8, 2018 at 10:50 am

    One learns a new thing every day on the cat, now I now who T S is.

    I also had no idea who Donald Trump was until 15 minutes ago.

    Sorry Dot but as far as musical choices go, we are worlds apart.

  130. Infidel Tiger

    2018 – Kanye is Team Trump and Swifty goes to the left.

  131. Shy Ted

    Perhaps this could be included in SloMo’ aged care RC
    The Merkin Tribesmen:- The blacks of that stretch of the Palmer were Merkin tribesmen. In common with other tribes inhabiting that part of the peninsula, they were a well built, virile, copper-coloured race, who were warriors for centuries. Contact with races to the north of Australia had sharpened their wits and polished their fighting techniques. In country where an uncertain supply of wild game provided either a feast or a famine, they were all cannibals “of a particularly bad type”, one writer later put it. They killed and ate their own women and children and occasionally their men”, he wrote. ” The older women were often killed for eating purposes like livestock. When a gin was to be killed she was taken away to a secluded spot. One man seized and crossed her hands in front of her, while another hit her on the back of the head with a nulla-nulla or wooden sword. Then she was disemboweled and cut up for roasting. A woman who was unfaithful was killed and eaten. If a man fell from a tree, or was in any other way seriously injured, he was generally killed and eaten.

    And let’s not forget public servants – During the wet season the Government sent a man with a boat to the Laura River to ferry stranded travelers across. But not many were traveling and the boatman was alone a good deal. The blacks speared and ate him.

  132. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/ex-city-councillor-loses-her-mansion-20050420-ge00d8.html

    Who was it who said the Internet never forgets? So the fair Kimberly goes from nearly FOUR MILLION dollars in debt, via the TURC, to sitting in the Senate.

  133. cohenite

    Shy Ted

    #2834254, posted on October 8, 2018 at 11:29 am

    I’m not surprised, when I was young a couple of local teenage aboriginal girls used to look at me as though they wanted to eat me.

  134. Bushkid

    From the Oz. Would this be the same Kimberly Kitching that the TURC recommended be charged for her role in the H.S.U?

    Yes, that was my first thought too, ZK2A. After all that emerged during the TURC, to have this person now a Senator – a Senator FFS! – is just mind-blowing.

  135. John Constantine

    Their abc rural radio country hour has let slip a few times that four corners tonight reveals roundup has cancer concerns, but like Basil Fawlty mentioning ‘The War’, they might have just managed to get away with it.

    Their abc of course isn’t going overboard, but handing their billion dollar bully pulpit over to activists.

    Potentially maybe could well be.

    Label roundup like cigarette packets, not a ban, not just yet.

    Too early, Comrades.

  136. Mother Lode

    As a political scientist I’d argue everything is political, but equally, I’d respond, so what?

    There it is again.

    Progressives seem to have heard that it is a famous quote, and by uttering it they are able to cut off certain avenues of rebuttal.

    When Mann penned those words, he was citing what he thought was a critical weakness of French and British democracy – that politics is allowed to creep into everything.

    Certainly we have seen what a mess it has made in Australia, where politics eventually becomes the core function, while original purposes are abandoned: We have an appallingly inept and dishonest state broadcaster, and the universities are turning out ‘woke’ numbskulls.

  137. Classical hero:

    Winston didn’t see that Carpe had already messed up his first attempt. Imagine if he thought he broke the record not realising he didn’t. 😄

    I didn’t notice Carpes post until I went back to check.
    So I have spent the rest of this morning hiding under my bed, ripping garments and gnashing teeth, and sobbing with a broken heart.
    Bastards.

  138. .

    Um, other than playing Love Story (or Rock Lobster) over and over to troll an entire pub, I’m not interested in Taylor Swift for her music.

  139. Percy Popinjay

    I’m not interested in Taylor Swift for her music

    Her last album wouldn’t have tanked if she’d just taken up my kind offer to become her ditty composer in chief.

  140. John Constantine

    Their abc radio country hour handing over to yarragrad wymynsys godless como activist for the next re-education class.

    Enraged that the federal agriculture minister will not appear as a punching bag gotcha over roundup.

    She will just go ahead and mock his absence as the show trial is run to prove roundup is racist against wymynsys.

    Comrades.

    [ and they are howling in rage in support of Paris now, eliminate the Paris denier class their abc demand.]

  141. .

    PP

    We do love poetry here at the Cat. She could do well to Haiku about Cocaine Mitch, in a full yet revealing Geisha outfit.

  142. Mother Lode

    Speaking at Gleebooks this month.
    Gillian Triggs
    Sarah Hansen-Young
    Mike Carlton
    They sure have some pulling power.

    Gleebooks is not that big a venue is it?

    It seems these are the people you would invite if you wanted to avoid having to turn people away.

  143. Geriatric Mayfly

    New materials, new advances in bird nest integrity. An old length of hay-band was under attack yesterday by two yellow faced honey eaters. It was a fearsome struggle for them to pull out individual strands. So I roughed it up a bit, and there have been many visits since to collect wisps of this indestructible fibre to secure their new abode.

  144. .

    I think poor Taylor was bullied by ugly, left-wing freaks.

    http://reasonswhyihatetaylorswift.tumblr.com/

    She is one generation too young. If she were older, she’d just tell them to fuck off.

    There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women

    You’re not helping.

  145. Percy Popinjay

    We do love poetry here at the Cat.

    Especially of the type inspired by the Vogons.

  146. Chris

    Can we resolve the Cat clock issue? I suggest the Cat operates on Zulu time. The Clock botherers have not got to that.

    Perhaps Consensus time could be achieved – Zulu plus ten hours, less the fudge factor of ‘just-now’ vs
    ”now-now’ in African cultures, minus 150 years for when shrieking hysterical women responding to emotional status cues were the mainstay of psychiatric research, plus 85 years for the rational advances that took men to the moon fifty years ago, minus the weight in micro-grams of Gough Whitlam’s hippocampus (It’s Time!) plus the viscosity in Poises of a dumpster full of iPhone 4s and Macbook Pros for the advances in human life value of Capitalism.

    Something for everyone in Consensus Time!

  147. C.L.

    ABC Online re banners what it thinks is a huge breaking story:

    Head of US marine force in Darwin stood down for drink-driving on nightclub strip.

    “Mid-range” drink driving – which is not even worth talking about.
    ————————-

    “Take me to the Brig. I want to see the real Marines.

    – Major General Chesty Puller.

  148. Zulu plus ten hours,

    No good. ZK2A travels too much.

  149. Death Giraffe

    I knew it. I bloody knew it.
    That dirty, coughing son of a bitch on the plane gave me his goddamn chest infection.
    Woke up this morning couldn’t bloody breath.
    Swine.
    Antibiotics. Great. Just bloody great man.

  150. Mother Lode

    Kimberly Ka-ching!

  151. Gab

    Arky make sure you have plenty of yoghurt when taking antibiotics.

  152. C.L.

    Liberals order empty RAAF jets to pick them up and fly them around:

    RAAF ‘ghost flights’ fly EMPTY to pick up politicians and their families at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars to taxpayers.

    Politicians have cost taxpayers about $365,000 in just six months by forcing government planes to fly empty to pick them up.

    Royal Australian Airforce’s five special-purpose planes took off without passengers to pick up federal government ministers 74 times in the last six months of 2017.

    The bill for the ‘ghost flights’ to retrieve politicians, their staff and family members jumped by $40,000 compared to the first six months of last year …

    An empty plane flew from Canberra to Darwin to get Senator Scullion in November last year.

    The flight, which would cost about $300-$400 on a commercial flight, set taxpayers back $19,780.

  153. C.L.

    When Alan Jones criticises a woman, it’s “bullying.”
    When every ABC staffer in the country attacks Pauline Hanson, it’s ‘journalism.’

  154. John Constantine

    Two grand will buy you a heavy duty second hand cremation oven, as advertised today on face filth.

    That is the sort of installation that could be photographed and shown to spineless turnbullites when you are trapped in an elevator with them.

    If elevator screams work for their American left, why not elevator friendliness in Australia?.

  155. cohenite

    Their abc radio country hour handing over to yarragrad wymynsys godless como activist for the next re-education class.

    It’s no point complaining about the stinking abc; if the people who despised the abc acted like the fucking metoouptherazoo movement did the abc would close in a week.

  156. USA versus PRC.

    A 15 round championship bout is underway.
    Pence lets it all hang out.

    h/t Blot.

  157. Mother Lode

    I saw one of those displays that cycles through news headlines and advertising today.

    One asked if Alan Jones has too much power.

    Jones, and a few others, are up against a $1 billion+ leviathan that exists in multiple channels across all platforms, which serves as a foghorn for every mediocre leftist who feels the need to sound off without challenge, and all about a gaggle of lesser public funded spawn chattering away lifting their stories and re-broadcasting.

    Whatever else you might say about Jones, the money he has made is money voluntarily exchanged by networks and audience. Not so the Ultimo dung-patch.

  158. Steve trickler

    This reporter had a bad day at work. Jesse Lee at his finest, 22 years ago.

    She’ll never forget it.



  159. Shy Ted

    Senile Old Guy #2834234, posted on October 8, 2018 at 11:01 am The piece in the SMH is by “Dr Lauren Rosewarne is a senior lecturer in the School of Social and Political Sciences at the University of Melbourne”. Oh dear!
    I love it when these articles get posted so I can head off to duckduckgo and learn more about academics. I wasn’t disappointed – Lauren is the author of six books including Sex in Public: Women, Outdoor Advertising and Public Policy (2007), Cheating on the Sisterhood: Infidelity and Feminism (2009), Part-Time Perverts: Sex, Pop Culture and Kink Management (2011), Periods in Pop Culture: Menstruation in Film and Television (2012), American Taboo: The Forbidden Words, Unspoken Rules, and Secret Morality of Popular Culture (2013) and Masturbation in Film and Television: Screen, Society, Self (2014). So I went looking for an explanation for such bizarre works. Bingo

  160. cohenite

    This reporter had a bad day at work. Jesse Lee at his finest, 22 years ago.

    22 years ago; seems like yesterday. And certainly will be tomorrow.

  161. Another question for the knowledgeable among us.
    If the Democrats say they can just appoint two more SC judges when they get in, why can’t Trump turn around now and appoint 17?

  162. Confused Old Misfit

    why can’t Trump turn around now and appoint 17?

    Because he’s NOT a Dimmocrat!

  163. Roger

    An empty plane flew from Canberra to Darwin to get Senator Scullion in November last year.

    The flight, which would cost about $300-$400 on a commercial flight, set taxpayers back $19,780.

    I thought the age of entitlement was supposed to be over?

  164. stackja

    WS – US constitution says

  165. notafan

    Lauren Rosewarne i

    I think she has been mentioned here before, those delightful titles ring a bell

    -those are pretty much all e-books iirc

    anyone can write a stupid ebook

    obviously

  166. Stackja, from what I’m reading, the number of SC Justices isn’t mentioned in the US Constitution. There are however, people stating that if the Democrats control the Senate, they can pass Constitutional reform legislation to increase that.

  167. I am bespoke

    Steve trickler
    #2834307, posted on October 8, 2018 at 12:50 pm
    This reporter had a bad day at work. Jesse Lee at his finest, 22 years ago.

    22 years is good indication the he’s a genuine character, cheers for that.

  168. Confused Old Misfit

    Article III authorizes one Supreme Court, but does not set the number of justices that must be appointed to it. Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 refers to a Chief Justice (who shall preside over the impeachment trial of the President of the United States). Since 1869 the number of justices has been fixed by at nine (by the Judiciary Act of 1869): one chief justice, and eight associate justices.[1]

  169. stackja

    WS – I have not read all constitution. Summary says 9. Constitution amendment is not easy.

  170. Death Giraffe

    Holy shit.
    80% of studdnts at Paolo Alto U are female.
    Unis are over.

  171. Tel

    If the Democrats say they can just appoint two more SC judges when they get in, why can’t Trump turn around now and appoint 17?

    Trump should appoint 71 judges, that’ll Far Come.

    If anyone complains then tell em the only thing that will stop you is a Constitutional amendment.

  172. Jessie

    Shy Ted, thanks for the research tips.
    Clementine Ford is referred to in CF posts, never heard of her, looked up her story.

    The 2016/2017 Adelaide University Fay Gale Centre for Research on Gender was an interesting read on Clementine, and also the Centre’s view on Trump and US politics. The pdf is up on their website.
    Says it all really. + Gillard is active aat the uni and internationally.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Royal Australian Airforce’s five special-purpose planes took off without passengers to pick up federal government ministers 74 times in the last six months of 2017

    In a just world, these blowflies would be transported by the oldest, rustiest DC3 still on the R.A.A.F. inventory with no pressurization or soundproofing, and the sanitary facilities consisting of a bucket bolted to the floor, behind a curtain.

  174. Roger

    Holy shit.
    80% of studdnts at Paolo Alto U are female.

    PAU may be a bit atypical; it’s a graduate school in psychology.

  175. Confused Old Misfit

    If the Democrats say they can just appoint two more SC judges

    They would have to be able to amend or repeal the Judiciary Act of 1869 I would think. Which would require control of all three branches. Now’s your time Trump! Stand up Republicans! (Apologies to the Iron Duke)

  176. zyconoclast

    Royal Australian Airforce’s five special-purpose planes took off without passengers to pick up federal government ministers 74 times in the last six months of 2017

    Any helicopter flights to Geelong?

  177. Death Giraffe

    PAU may be a bit atypical; it’s a graduate school in psychology.

    ..
    Great.
    80% mad women.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    80% of studdnts at Paolo Alto U are female.

    Maybe it should be renamed Uterati U.

  179. Roger

    Great.
    80% mad women.

    About to be set loose on the world as psychologists.

  180. Tel

    Great.
    80% mad women.

    Good place to stop in, if you happen to need some ideas on passing a polygraph test. Gotta see the bright side.

  181. zyconoclast

    Catholic school fight with nuns over multimillion-dollar loan

    A major scandal is looming within a Sydney Maronite Catholic school as government-appointed auditors probe decades of payments to nuns as well as a mysterious multimillion-dollar loan.

    Several sources associated with St Maroun’s claim that school funds may have been improperly used to subsidise the attached convent and the living expenses of nuns.

    These included the school allegedly paying for the nuns’ full-time housekeeper and for repairs to their convent.

    And a previous internal investigation by the school warned that hundreds of thousands of dollars international students paid in cash remained unaccounted for.

    Auditors from Ernst & Young are seeking staff timesheets, salaries and utilities bills, as well as access to convent bank account records, as they try to unravel whether school money has been spent on other church expenses.

    At the centre of the dispute within St Maroun’s is a $3.4 million loan, which several senior figures connected to the school believe may not be genuine.

  182. Top Ender

    Greens leader want to move music event to the ACT so “pill-testing” can be done.

    Be an interesting legal case if someone was gravely and permanently injured as a result of taking drugs that the facility had said were safe.

  183. As a political scientist I’d argue everything is political, but equally, I’d respond, so what?

    This is self-defeating. If the claim, “I was raped” is nothing more than a political statement, we can safely set aside all uncorroborated claims of ‘rape’ and ‘sexual assault’ as simply partisan statements deserving of the counter-reply, So what?

  184. Entropy

    Death Giraffe
    #2834342, posted on October 8, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    PAU may be a bit atypical; it’s a graduate school in psychology.

    ..
    Great.
    80% mad women.

    I thought all women were naturally adept at psychology? At last Mrs Entropy knows it is so. She practices it all the time.

  185. 132andBush

    An empty plane flew from Canberra to Darwin to get Senator Scullion in November last year.

    And for all intents and purposes an empty plane flew back.

  186. Steve trickler

    I am bespoke
    #2834329, posted on October 8, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    G’day.

    This clip will be watched in 100 years time. “Street Talk” at its finest.



  187. Leigh Lowe

    Be an interesting legal case if someone was gravely and permanently injured as a result of taking drugs that the facility had said were safe.

    Exactly.
    They can test the pills, but then what?
    Do they prescribe a dosage?
    What about taking two individual drugs which may be “safe” individually, but dangerous when taken in combination.
    And also ingesting shitloads of energy drinks and/or alcohol as well.
    Don’t they realise that this will be an ambulance-chaser’s picnic with the taxpayer paying the compensation …. oh, wait.
    Yeah, right, I see the plan now.

  188. Arky;
    That video is bloody fabulous.
    I’ll link to it again.
    That lady needs to get much wider viewing.

  189. stackja

    Zycon – nun story, just SMH? I am skeptical.

  190. Pedro the Ignorant

    Confusion over time zones/daylight saving etc could be easily resolved.

    An associate of mine who travels across Oz on a regular basis always adds a military style Date-Time-Group to his emails using UTC time (formerly known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT).

    This works very well, no confusion.

    Thus, 12.40 pm WA time on 8 October 2108 becomes 080440Z OCT 18.

    I don’t expect that this will become a day to day solution when a good percentage of the population can’t even read an analogue clockface, just throwing it out there.

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Stackja, from what I’m reading, the number of SC Justices isn’t mentioned in the US Constitution. There are however, people stating that if the Democrats control the Senate, they can pass Constitutional reform legislation to increase that.

    It did get up to 10 or 11, and there was an attempt to get it back to seven, but I think it has been at nine for over a century.

  192. .

    Ram home the ideas and legal authority of voluntary assumption of risk and contributory negligence until the cows come home.

    No one gets to sue Fosters or Lion Nathan when an alcoholic dies. Nor should they.

  193. notafan

    Why would international students pay in cash?

  194. Top Ender

    A piece from the Oz’s Strewth on the terrible article on the weekend on James Packer, albeit in the same publication.

    More proof were it needed that, in the search for happiness, money just won’t cut it.

    Extracts from Damon Kitney’s new book on James Packer — you were agog, right? There is Packer, calling Warren Beatty “dad” and Beatty’s awkward response being like: “I would say he’s a friend.”

    Then came the bit where Crown employees are banged up in a Chinese prison, but Packer can’t help because he’s busy necking vodka on the couch.

    Some are wondering why on earth Packer agreed to tell all, but actually more billionaires should do it: we’d all benefit from a clear-eyed look at how horrible that kind of life can be.

    Kitney, who spent time with Packer in LA, Sydney, Melbourne and Argentina, tells Strewth: “In late March (when Packer had to quit his Crown board positions to concentrate on mental health problems) I felt I didn’t have a book, given the challenges James was facing, which was pretty stressful, but at the start of the project he said he would keep his word to finish it … and to his enormous credit, he did.” Indeed.

  195. stackja

    LL – FDR tried to change numbers.

  196. .

    God those women are mental.

    Half of the slutwalkers are self-professed virgins who want husbands.

    “The point is to make the word mean whatever we want it to mean…but talking about it is bad…”

    The same as it ever was.

  197. Confused Old Misfit

    It did get up to 10 or 11, and there was an attempt to get it back to seven, but I think it has been at nine for over a century.

    Since the Judiciary Act of 1869.
    That’s 119 years.

  198. Well.
    Maybe I won’t.
    See Arky, the Model T Ford Restorer Who Could.

  199. stackja

    Pedro – AEST is same as Guam time at time.gov

  200. H B Bear

    I thought the age of entitlement was supposed to be over?

    Dunno. Let’s ask fat Sloppy Joe who is still on the public tit pulling around $400,000 plus accommodation as Ambassador to the US and still billing his childcare to the Oz taxpayer.

    Another hypocrite Lieboral who likes to talk big.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dunno. Let’s ask fat Sloppy Joe who is still on the public tit pulling around $400,000 plus accommodation as Ambassador to the US and still billing his childcare to the Oz taxpayer.

    Let’s also ask Kim Beasley – State Governor of Western Australian on $400,000 a year, still drawing half his Parliamentary pension, with car and driver thrown in.

  202. stackja

    Women who want respect should act as ladies.

  203. H B Bear

    As a Liar Bomber Beazley didn’t have anything to say about the Age of Entitlement. His hypocrisy as a Republican in Government House also comes as no surprise. It is worth noting that, like Sloppy, he was unable to control his own gluttonous basic instincts.

  204. Jessie

    132andBush @3.28
    If Scullion is still in the fishing business maybe a cargo of mudcrabs and barra 😁 for Canberra .

  205. Eyrie

    The RAAF VIP flight should be disbanded. Let the fuckers fly commercial, or better yet, make them get a PPL and fly themselves. I’d give CASA’s existence 3 months.

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