Monday Forum: October 8, 2018

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  1. .

    Anyway, some of the recent glyphosate literature:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5515989/

    the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) concluded in March 2015 that it is probably carcinogenic. The IARC conclusion was not confirmed by the EU assessment or the recent joint WHO/FAO evaluation, both using additional evidence. Glyphosate is not the first topic of disagreement between IARC and regulatory evaluations, but has received greater attention. This review presents the scientific basis of the glyphosate health assessment conducted within the European Union (EU) renewal process, and explains the differences in the carcinogenicity assessment with IARC.

    Use of different data sets, particularly on long-term toxicity/carcinogenicity in rodents, could partially explain the divergent views; but methodological differences in the evaluation of the available evidence have been identified. The EU assessment did not identify a carcinogenicity hazard, revised the toxicological profile proposing new toxicological reference values, and conducted a risk assessment for some representatives uses.

    Two complementary exposure assessments, human-biomonitoring and food-residues-monitoring, suggests that actual exposure levels are below these reference values and do not represent a public concern.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5972398/

    Two recent reviews of glyphosate’s health hazards report conflicting results. An independent review by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) found that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen”. A review by the European Food Safety Agency (EFSA) found no evidence of carcinogenic hazard.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705608/

    The IARC assessment and scoring of glyphosate as a Group 2A carcinogen is based on sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in animals (30), limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans (increased rates of non-Hodgkin lymphoma in farmers) (30), and strong mechanistic evidence (genotoxicity and oxidative stress) (30).

    The last paper is fairly strongly worded.

    Really if we got rid of glyphosate, it would appear to benefit farmers the most.

  2. Empire 5:5

    WILTON — The owner of the limousine that crashed in Schoharie, killing 18 people on board and two pedestrians, is a former FBI informant who testified in two high-profile terrorism cases, a state official confirmed Monday.

    Shahed “Malik” Hussain owns Prestige Limousine in Wilton, the official said. The limousine company is being scrutinized as federal and state investigators try to determine what caused the crash.

    https://m.timesunion.com/news/article/FBI-informant-in-terror-stings-owned-limo-in-13290392.php

  3. Bushkid

    Nob
    #2834999, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:28 am
    The BBC is going totally temper-A-mental on climate change this week.

    Is it something in the water?

    Nah, there’s just another of those climate conference knees-up thingies coming up, where they all fly in by airliner and private jet and stay in big expensive hotels and drive around in limos and eat fancy meals in posh restaurants and bullshit to each other about what new lies they should tell next to keep on scaring the pants off ordinary folks to get them to cough up even more of their hard-earned money to keep supporting the conference-goers in the luxury to which they’d like to become permanently attached.

    The big scary “OMG it’s even worser than we thought!” media blitz leading up to the gab-fest is standard practice. Just ignore it, or better yet, laugh at it, ridicule it.

  4. Empire 5:5

    Department of Justice official, Ed O’Callaghan, were also present

    Trolling Level: Shihan.

  5. stackja

    Limo failed inspection. Driver unqualified. What could possibly go wrong?

  6. Farmer Gez

    I’ve read all this stuff before dot. UN bodies are all tainted with anti corporate agendas.
    The last study exposes the problem with testing glyphosate as a single compound as opposed to the chemical formulation that farmers use. Buffers, adjuvants and other compounds are used to make the product stable and useable in a water solution.
    For comparison, try feeding rats perfume or deodorant in solution and publish the results. Studies that identify higher levels of certain diseases in farmers often fail to adjust for age. A very big factor in cancer and degenerative diseases.

  7. .

    That is a very good point Gez. The average age for a farmer is what, 57 now? It was 55 over a decade ago IIRC.

    Bumping up the average age by 19 years is obviously going to have an effect.

    When I was on the accumulation desk, most farmers were easily over 55, and quite a few well into their seventies.

  8. Twostix

    The BBC is going totally temper-A-mental on climate change this week.

    They always do this after a big existential loss.

    It’s the equivalent of a girl binge eating icecream after being dumped.

  9. Farmer Gez

    The rate of suicide, skin cancer and accidental deaths amongst farmers should be a Four Corners story but that would require an actual concern for our health rather than anti corporate/ green agendas.

  10. zyconoclast

    The US Spent A Record $523 Billion On Debt Interest In Fiscal 2018

    Earlier this week, when the US closed fiscal 2018 on September 30, we reported that US gross national debt jumped by $84 billion on September 28, the last business day of fiscal year 2018; with this last push higher, total gross national debt in fiscal 2018 rose by $1.271 trillion to an all time record of $21.52 trillion.

    What is more stunning, is that only six months ago, on March 16, it had for the first time risen above the $21-trillion mark, while a year ago, at the end of September 2017, it was just $20.2 trillion.

  11. C.L.

    ABC advertises its business on the Opera House:

    The ABC’s Chaser team tweeted a video early on Tuesday morning, showing them driving around the city projecting onto buildings including the Art Gallery of NSW and Parliament House on Macquarie Street…

    Firth then drove up the Opera House, and attempted to talk his way past a security guard stationed at the entrance…

    Before driving away the Chaser team did manage to project their sign onto the Opera House sails.

  12. Twostix

    Kav hiring an all girl team makes him look like he’s a bit of a creepy cuck.

  13. zyconoclast

    Two men arrested after two police officers stabbed

    Two men have been arrested after four police officers were attacked in London.

    One of the officers is in hospital with serious injuries after he was stabbed in Liverpool Road, Islington.

    A 19-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, while another man, also aged 19, has been held on suspicion of affray.

    The Met said two male officers were stabbed, while two female officers were also injured.

    Police were called at 22:43 BST on Saturday and were “met with hostility”, while one man inside the property “produced a large knife”, according to the force.

    Supt Mike Hill said: “This incident demonstrates the courage and professionalism officers show day in day out in what can often be a dangerous job.

    “When officers respond to what can often be a difficult situation or go to assist members of the public they should not be met with violence, it is completely unacceptable.”

  14. stackja

    Would there be concern if Red China owned the farms?

  15. zyconoclast

    Matteo Salvini threatens to close Italy’s airports to prevent repatriation of migrants from Germany

    However, a spokesman for the German Interior Minister, Horst Seehofer, told the Italian news agency, Ansa: “No repatriation flights to Italy were being planned in the coming days.”

  16. C.L.

    The BBC is going totally temper-A-mental on climate change this week.
    ————-
    They always do this after a big existential loss.

    It’s the equivalent of a girl binge eating icecream after being dumped.

    LOL.
    It’s funny because it’s true.

  17. zyconoclast

    #himtoo

    Lawsuit accuses Seneca Valley ‘mean girls’ of targeting boy with false allegations

    The 26-page lawsuit — filed in Pittsburgh on the eve of Mean Girls Day — alleges that T.F. “was forced to endure multiple court appearances, detention in a juvenile facility, detention at home, the loss of his liberty and other damages until several of the girls reluctantly admitted that their accusations were false” this summer.

    The lawsuit contends T.F. was bullied on multiple occasions by classmates. In one example, the lawsuit said students last year placed masking tape with the word “PREDATOR” written on it on his back without his knowledge during choir practice.

    The lawsuit alleges the boy was further damaged from “gender bias” by school officials and Goldinger’s office, which even after learning the girls’ accusations were false “did not take any action against the females involved,” said attorney Craig Fishman of Pittsburgh, who represents the Floods.

    “(T.F.) was basically being tortured in school by the other students and investigators, but the administration was only focused on protecting the girls who were lying,” Fishman said. “Once the allegations were proven false, they really didn’t care one bit about T.F. and there has been absolutely no repercussions against the girls.”

    The teen boy is being home-schooled, Fishman said.

    According to the lawsuit, the first allegation occurred in July 2017 at an area swimming pool where T.F. worked as a lifeguard with then Seneca Valley High School graduate Megan Villegas, who is the only teenage defendant named in the lawsuit. The others are minors and are referred to only by initials, Fishman said.

    Villegas could not be reached for comment.

    The lawsuit contends T.F. was charged with sexually assaulting a girl identified in the lawsuit as K.S. on the pool premises, and Villegas corroborated the K.S. claim by saying she was present during the alleged assault.

    “T.F. was fired at the pool,” Fishman said.

    In a tape-recorded interview with school officials in 2017, the lawsuit alleges K.S. said she made the sexual assault claim against T.F. because “I just don’t like him.”

    “I just don’t like to hear him talk. … I don’t like to look at him,” K.S. reportedly disclosed in the recorded interview obtained by Fishman.

    On Oct. 2, 2017, K.S. told fellow students “that she would do anything to get T.F. expelled … and accused T.F. of sexual assault” with school officials, the lawsuit states. T.F. was subsequently charged in juvenile court with indecent assault and two counts of harassment.

    The Floods eventually agreed in late 2017 to a consent decree where he would not admit guilt but was required to stay out of trouble for six months and report to the county probation department.

    In March, another girl — identified as C.S. and a friend of K.S. — reported to a school counselor that the boy had walked into her home uninvited and sexually assaulted her. The allegations were supported by information from two other girls, identified as E.S. and H.R., according to the lawsuit.

    On April 9, Zelienople police charged T.F. with indecent assault, criminal trespass and simple assault.

    “On April 10, T.F. was removed from class at Seneca Valley High School and placed in leg and wrist shackles by the Jackson Township Police with the assistance of Juvenile Probation Officer Michael Trego,” the lawsuit said.

    Trego testified at a hearing that T.F. was a threat to the community, and the teenager had to spend nine days in a juvenile detention center before being released on home-electronic monitoring.

    “After 28 days, T.F. was only allowed out of his home to mow his lawn,” the lawsuit contends.

    During the case, T.F. was told by school officials he could not play baseball “because every time he was wearing a Seneca Valley jersey, he was representing a school.”

    According to the lawsuit, the criminal complaints against the boy began to unravel in May when three of the witnesses admitted they had lied.

    On Aug. 30, Goldinger’s office sought an order dismissing all charges against T.F. filed for the March allegation because of the false reports, according to court documents. On Sept. 10, the charges in connection with the 2017 swimming pool incident were ordered closed, according to the lawsuit.

    “The Butler County District Attorney’s office promised to file a petition to expunge the record of T.F. in September, but has not yet done so, providing further evidence of gender-based discrimination. The (district attorney) has refused to file criminal charges against K.S., Villegas, C.S., E.S. and H.R. due to gender-based discrimination,” the lawsuit states.

    The lawsuit claims school officials have repeatedly refused to mark the academic records of the girls who lied about the assaults.

    “T.F. has had psychological trauma because of all this. He’s had to see a psychologist to deal with the physical symptoms which are the direct result of being accused of something when he did not do anything wrong,” Fishman said.

  18. John Constantine

    The obvious answer to death rates among farmers, Gez, is a massive roll-out of compliance programs.

    It is obviously going to be illegal to go out to play in your own paddock without full nose to toe approved safety gear.

    Annual safety inspections for all machinery, including inspections for unswerving compliance with Paris exhaust emissions standards, the thought of this gets them all excited for the potential for progressive victory.

    The last thing needed is for their abc to progress their dekulakisation, rewilding and demographic replacement of rural voters programs with a taxfunded jihad for ‘Safe Farms’.

  19. OldOzzie

    Kunstler: Civil War Two Looms As Deep State Circles The Wagons

    I believe Christine Blasey Ford was lying, through and through, in her injured little girl voice, like a bad imitation of Truman Capote.

    I believe that the Christine Blasey Ford gambit was an extension of the sinister activities underway since early 2016 in the Department of Justice and the FBI to un-do the last presidential election, and that the real and truthful story about these seditious monkeyshines is going to blow wide open.

    It turns out that the Deep State is a small world.

    Did you know that the lawyer sitting next to Dr. Ford in the Senate hearings, one Michael Bromwich, is also an attorney for Andrew McCabe, the former FBI Deputy Director fired for lying to investigators from his own agency and currently singing to a grand jury?

    What a coincidence. Out of all the lawyers in the most lawyer-infested corner of the USA, she just happened to hook up with him.

    It’s a matter of record that Dr. Ford traveled to Rehobeth Beach Delaware on July 26, where her Best Friend Forever and former room-mate, Monica McLean, lives, and that she spent the next four days there before sending a letter July 30 to Senator Diane Feinstein that kicked off the “sexual assault” circus. Did you know that Monica McClean was a retired FBI special agent, and that she worked in the US Attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York under Preet Bharara, who had earlier worked for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer?

    Could Dr. Ford have spent those four days in July helping Christine Blasey Ford compose her letter to Mrs. Feinstein? Did you know that Monica McClean’s lawyer, one David Laufman is a former DOJ top lawyer who assisted former FBI counter-intel chief Peter Strozk on both the Clinton and Russia investigations before resigning in February this year — in fact, he sat in on the notorious “unsworn” interview with Hillary in 2016. Wow! What a really small swamp Washington is!

    Did you know that Ms. Leland Keyser, Dr. Ford’s previous BFF from back in the Holton Arms prep school, told the final round of FBI investigators in the Kavanaugh hearing last week — as reported by the The Wall Street Journal — that she “felt pressured” by Monica McLean and her representatives to change her story — that she knew nothing about the alleged sexual assault, or the alleged party where it allegedly happened, or that she ever knew Mr. Kavanaugh. I think that’s called suborning perjury.

    The Democratic Party has its fingerprints all over this, as it does with the shenanigans over the Russia investigation. Not only do I not believe Dr. Ford’s story; I also don’t believe she acted on her own in this shady business. What’s happening with all these FBI and DOJ associated lawyers is an obvious circling of the wagons. They’ve generated too much animus in the process and they’re going to get nailed. These matters are far from over and a major battle is looming in the countdown to the midterm elections. In fact, op-ed writer Charles M. Blow sounded the trumpet Monday morning in his idiotic column titled: Liberals, This is War. Like I’ve been saying: Civil War Two.

  20. Cactus

    Leak is now my favourite cartoonist. Didn’t take him long.

  21. mh

    It’s why we love him:

    Trump: I like Taylor Swift’s music about 25% less now

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ElhBAJi3Y

  22. John Constantine

    Machinery inspections.

    Story is that a chap on an owner operator family farm is registered as a company for taxation and succession planning. He buys himself a second-hand telehandler [ front end loader hay bale stacking machine].

    Because it had been previously registered with worksafe, and sold secondhand to an entity registered as a company, it came under a requirement to be assessed for regular safety checks under crane regulations.

    Including being x-rayed for metal fatigue.
    Expensive business, once you begin to allow the State to be responsible for your well-being.

    Comrades.

    He buys

  23. Leigh Lowe

    zyconoclast

    #2835027, posted on October 9, 2018 at 9:13 am

    #himtoo

    Lawsuit accuses Seneca Valley ‘mean girls’ of targeting boy with false allegations

    OK.
    A civil lawsuit.
    But where are the criminal charges against these slags for false statements, conspiracy and perjury as a minimum?

  24. .

    Or the cops, or any corroborating witnesses…

  25. Roger

    The immigration idiocy continues.

    Having stuffed up our three major cities by importing people quicker than infrastructure development could cope with, the Liberals now propose to do the same to the regions.

    There may be a lot of ruin in a country but our political class seem determined to test just how much.

  26. rickw

    Including being x-rayed for metal fatigue.
    Expensive business, once you begin to allow the State to be responsible for your well-being.

    5 year inspections and 10 year major inspections (pull apart, X-ray, crack tests) are a killer. At 10 year test we normally scrap all pivot pins and rams, cheaper than the NDT required on them.

    In worksafe world, scrapping at 19.9 years is the optimal solution.

  27. OldOzzie

    Acting police chief was locked in car during Westminster terror attack

    Scotland Yard’s acting commissioner has told how he witnessed the fatal stabbing of PC Keith Palmer in the Westminster Bridge Attack but fled the scene because no one in his vehicle had protective equipment or a radio.

    Sir Craig Mackey, the Met’s deputy commissioner, said his first instinct was to jump out and help but an assistant locked the car doors because they had nothing with which to stop the Islamist terrorist Khalid Masood.

    Sir Craig was sitting in the front seat of his official vehicle with his driver and chief of staff on March 22 after a meeting with Brandon Lewis, the policing minister, when the attack unfolded in front of him.

    He told the inquest into the fatal shooting of Masood, who also killed four people by running them down in a car on Westminster Bridge, that his first instinct was to get out of his vehicle, which was passing through the vehicle barrier just inside the main gates. However, he was told by a police constable at the gate to “get out, make safe, go, shut the door”, and his colleague in the car had already locked the doors.

    Sir Craig, who was temporarily in charge of the Met before Cressida Dick, said his first instinct to leave the vehicle was “not the right response”. He added: “I was in shirtsleeves, with no radio, I didn’t know if the attack was ongoing … we had no protective equipment at all, no communications, we had been in a ministerial meeting.”

    Within seconds the car had pulled away. Sir Craig said: “I had no personal equipment, no radio, two colleagues with me who were quite traumatised by what they had seen, so we moved out and I began co-ordinating the response you saw.”

    Hugo Keith, QC, acting for the Met, said: “It may seem obvious that had you not locked the car and had you go out, you would have presented yourself as a further target?”

    “Yes, anyone who got in his way would have been a target,” Sir Craig said. “Anyone who came up against that individual would have faced serious, serious injury if not death.”
    The immediate aftermath of the attack at Westminster Bridge in London when Khalid Masood drove his car into pedestrians, killing five and injuring multiple others.
    The immediate aftermath of the attack at Westminster Bridge in London when Khalid Masood drove his car into pedestrians, killing five and injuring multiple others.

    Sir Craig told the jury that he had been sitting in his car, waiting to leave parliament, when he heard an “abnormally loud bang” that he feared was an explosion. He then saw Masood, 52, holding a butcher’s knife, attack PC Palmer, 48, with “two determined stab wounds”.

    Sir Craig told the Old Bailey: “There was quite a lot of confusion about what was going on. Clearly the way that the male came in and the purposeful way he came, he was clearly a threat. I could see PC Palmer moving backwards and him going down.”

    Sir Craig, who retires in January, went on: “The attacker had one of those looks where, if they get you in that look, they would be after you. He seemed absolutely focused on getting further down and attacking anyone who was in his way.

    “The thing that still shakes me about the attack is that it was 80-plus seconds in total. It didn’t feel like that, it felt an awfully long time.”

    PC Palmer regained his feet and staggered past Sir Craig’s car, pursued by Masood, who was then shot dead by the close protection officer for Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary at the time.

    Sir Craig had been due to return to the Met, which is located around the coroner on the Embankment, when the attack started at 2.40pm. “The officers were in their usual position just inside the gateline. Everyone started moving on the pavement, everybody is running towards the House of Lords end, some are running into the gates. The gates were open and people were coming in and all of a sudden I became aware of a large male and thought, ‘Oh my god he’s god a knife.’ ”

    Chief Inspector Paul Sheridan, chief firearms instructor for the Met, later told the inquest that the close protection officer who shot Masood, known only as SA74, had made the right decision.

    “Given the urgency of the situation I don’t think there was any other action he could have taken,” he said. “If he had not, [Masood] would have been close enough to stab the officer or any other member of the public. The decision to use lethal force was entirely justified given the minimal time to react.”

    The inquest continues.

  28. Nick

    The immigration idiocy continues.
    Having stuffed up our three major cities by importing people quicker than infrastructure development could cope with, the Liberals now propose to do the same to the regions.

    The dissonance in Sydney is amazing. The inner city Left despise new roads and those who live in outer suburbs who travel into the city. The Left were the ones who wanted Open Borders and oppose development within the goats cheese curtain.

  29. Roger

    Sir Craig said: “I had no personal equipment, no radio, two colleagues with me who were quite traumatised by what they had seen, so we moved out and I began co-ordinating the response you saw.”

    Well done, Sir Craig; you enacted “Run, Hide & Tell” perfectly.

  30. H B Bear

    Well done, Sir Craig; you enacted “Run, Hide & Tell” perfectly.

    The capitulation of Britain personified.

  31. Roger

    The capitulation of Britain personified.

    Very sad.

    Thankfully, Cressida Dick has now taken over.

  32. Old School Conservative

    Sir Craig said: “I had no personal equipment, no radio, two colleagues with me who were quite traumatised by what they had seen, so we moved out and I began co-ordinating the response you saw.”

    But you did have hundreds of examples of British soldiers fighting against insurmountable odds and winning. You did have the responsibility to help a fatally wounded colleague. You did have the authority to countermand the minion who locked you in the car. And you had a car. A CAR.
    Obviously you don’t remember the use of vehicles as a weapon.
    Quit now “Sir” Craig.

  33. Nick

    Obviously you don’t remember the use of vehicles as a weapon.

    English Muslims do.

  34. Black Ball

    Just watching something on Bill Parcells. Any chance he can coach the Wallabies? He may not have a great grasp of the game, but neither do those in charge now!

  35. Tom

    Breaking: RBG has arrived at the White House for the Kavanaugh swearing in. She appears to be conscious.

  36. thefrollickingmole

    Lawsuit accuses Seneca Valley ‘mean girls’ of targeting boy with false allegations

    OK.
    A civil lawsuit.
    But where are the criminal charges against these slags for false statements, conspiracy and perjury as a minimum?

    There is no justice system without perjury charges.
    Its a major, major failing of our police that people who knowingly and willfully make false statements under oath are seldom prosecuted, and the family court is a major one here.

  37. Mother Lode

    The Chaser divulge Alan Jones’ phone number.

    Brilliant fellas.

    Quite apart from the fact that the racing people had permission to project onto the Opera House, they were also putting up the message they wanted to get out – not someone else’s private information.

    So the point they may have wanted to make is lost beneath the differences of the cases.

    I assume they are still being paid by the ABC.

    They have not even the sense to see not only that the ABC is not the apogee of anyone’s career. If you move there and just stay there, it means you have fallen as far as you can.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #2835056, posted on October 9, 2018 at 10:03 am

    Breaking: RBG has arrived at the White House for the Kavanaugh swearing in. She appears to be conscious.

    Devastating news.

  39. Geriatric Mayfly

    Breaking: RBG has arrived at the White House for the Kavanaugh swearing in. She appears to be conscious.

    Is she bedecked in her jabot? This ornamentation usually signifies what RBG’s thinking is at the time, but I cannot recall what it is that is fumbling its way through her head.

  40. mh

    When the dumbocrats run your town, it’s not just street bums defecating that should concern you:

    Michelle Malkin
    @michellemalkin
    Rule of Law vs. Rule of Mob, Portland edition

    https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1049330453444849664?s=20

  41. Elle

    Disgraceful behaviour by the Chaser, but they are famous for being disgraceful.

  42. Mother Lode

    RBG has arrived at the White House for the Kavanaugh swearing in. She appears to be conscious.

    Nah, it is like the Colossus of Rhodes.

    When the sun hits her, the air inside expands and is forced through some devise that makes a sound.

    If her eyes moved that is just the worms moving behind them.

  43. Top Ender

    Sir Craig said: “I had no personal equipment, no radio…

    And you live and work in a town beset by stabbings, shootings, and terrorist attacks.

    So why didn’t you have a radio?

    And a Browning 9mm?

    And an attitude?

    Because you’re a chair-polishing sycophantic public-servant arse-kisser.

    Resign now!

  44. Death Giraffe

    Well done, Sir Craig; you enacted “Run, Hide & Tell” perfectly.



  45. feelthebern

    Every time the Chaser does anything, the questions have to be asked:
    1) Which one of you assaulted your partner for years;
    2) Which of you knew about it but did nothing?

  46. feelthebern

    Did Chris Kenny schooling Nicholas Reece on Sky last night get mentioned here yet?

  47. Roger

    Resign now!

    He doesn’t have the courage to.

  48. C.L.

    Scotland Yard’s acting commissioner has told how he witnessed the fatal stabbing of PC Keith Palmer in the Westminster Bridge Attack but fled the scene because no one in his vehicle had protective equipment or a radio.

    Sir Craig Mackey, the Met’s deputy commissioner, said his first instinct was to jump out and help but an assistant locked the car doors because they had nothing with which to stop the Islamist terrorist Khalid Masood.

    Yes, folks, he’s a knight.

    A knight.

  49. C.L.

    The next Met commissioner:

  50. Roger

    On a brighter note, for a batsman Marnus Labuschagne is a pretty useful leg spinner.

    He really got one to rip last night for his first test wicket.

  51. Old School Conservative

    feelthebern
    #2835072, posted on October 9, 2018 at 10:30 am
    Did Chris Kenny schooling Nicholas Reece on Sky last night get mentioned here yet?

    One poster mentioned Reece’s failures but I saw nothing detailed.
    Sounds good. What happened?

  52. lotocoti

    Sounds like Sir Craig has never heard of the Hagakure.

  53. Interesting case mentioned in Courier Mail. Subway franchisee suing Subway HQ over the high rent. Was paying $160,000 in Westfield Carindale but says business dropped off after major extension which took place after rent was set. Would agree that the extension would have seriously affected the original food court outlets as spread the centre visitors out.

    Nearly $500 per day rent.

  54. feelthebern

    If you are a retailer in a Westfield centre you are a slave.

  55. OldOzzie

    Teaching Asst Placed On Leave Following ‘Kill Kavanaugh’ Tweet

    MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A Rosemount teaching assistant has been placed on leave after posting a tweet over the weekend apparently asking for the killing of new U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

    The tweet, posted Saturday, said: “So whose gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh?” The tweet has since been deleted. The Twitter account has also been removed.

    The teacher has been identified as Samantha Ness, a paraprofessional at the Alliance Education Center in Rosemount.

    Her name is Samantha Ness @lookitsSammm
    Looks like she wil…@FBIMinneapolis pic.twitter.com/3moRmWTMqX
    — JJ Guerrero (@juanwidnofeet) October 8, 2018

    The offending tweet read, “So whose (sic) gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh?”

    Ness tried to backtrack with a subsequent tweet: “Brett kavanaugh will be dealing with death threats for the rest of his life being on the Supreme Court. I doubt my mid-west ass is a real threat”

    Tweets from a Minnesota special education teacher calling for someone to kill Justice Kavanaugh. pic.twitter.com/HdtcVtRqLd
    — Beth Baumann (@eb454) October 8, 2018

    Ness deleted her Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram accounts after her tweet on Saturday created an uproar, but not before dozens of Twitter users captured the Tweet and shared it with the FBI and Secret Service, according to the Star Tribune.

    A spokesman for the FBI in Minneapolis told the Trib that the bureau was aware of the tweet, although as of Monday afternoon, the teacher had not been charged with a crime.

    According to WCCO’s Reg Chapman, the Minneapolis FBI said they are aware of the tweet.

    The Intermediate School District 917 released a statement Monday.

    “Over the weekend, the district has received a complaint regarding an employee. The employee has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation. Pursuant with the data practices act, we are limited to providing additional information regarding this matter. ”

    The district says the teacher is a paraprofessional.

    The Dakota County Sheriff’s Office also released a statement via Twitter.

    Our Office is aware of an incident involving alleged social media use by an employee of a school withinDakota County. Neither the City of Rosemount Police Department nor our Office are currently investigating any incidents we believe to have happened at the school. (1/2)

    — Dakota County SO (@DakotaMNSheriff) October 8, 2018

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is also aware of the incident and will follow up as appropriate.

    Please contact District Superintendent Mark Zuzek at 651-423-8229 for further questions relating to the school district’s involvement in the matter. (2/2)

    — Dakota County SO (@DakotaMNSheriff) October 8, 2018

    The teacher’s tweet was posted on the same day that Kavanaugh was confirmed to the Supreme Court by a bitterly divided U.S. Senate. It followed weeks of controversy surrounding claims that he sexually assaulted women three decades ago, which he strongly denies.

  56. feelthebern

    Last night on Sky, I caught a couple of minutes of Tom’s girlfriend, Sharri.
    She asked Chris Kenny & Nicholas Reece about the Brett Kavanaugh situation.
    Nicholas Reece gave an cliche answer…given the importance of the position, he should have withdrawn given the nature of the allegations….blah blah blah…
    Chris Kenny shot back with should Bill Shorten step down given the historical allegations against him.
    However Chris Kenny said words on Sky last night that the Doomlord doesn’t want posted here, so I respect the Doomlord’s wishes.
    Nicholas Reece then said something like: “I am not aware of those claims….but but but Robert Doyle…etc”.

    Every time a left pipes up on Kavanaugh, the immediate response should be “what about SLF”.

  57. Senile Old Guy

    The useless government:

    New migrants will be forced to live outside Sydney and Melbourne for up to five years under a federal government plan to ease congestion in the nation’s most populous cities. Migrants will be granted restricted visas to counter growth in those cities, which has outstripped forecasts by 100 per cent in the past decade, Population and Urban Infrastructure Minister Alan Tudge said. While the minister said the new migrants would be compelled to stay in regional areas for “at least a few years”, he could not say how the government would enforce that visa condition. “When someone is on a visa, we can easily place conditions on it. We haven’t announced all of the details of exactly how to do that, but it’s reasonably straightforward,” Mr Tudge said.

    Ridiculous. There is no way to make people stay somewhere if they don’t want to. Any official who says they can enforce this, is not being honest.

    “I’ve spoken to the South Australian Premier and he said that he wants to grow the state of South Australia by 20,000 people every year and he’ll have the work there to do it, so the work is there,” he said.

    South Australia? The mendicant state? What work is there to do there?

  58. feelthebern

    Right now, there are only two decent SCOTUS judged.
    John Roberts & Neil Gorsuch.
    Anyone expecting anything but swampie like behaviour from Kavanaugh will be disappointed.
    FFS, when you have George W Bush calling around to boost your stocks, you know you aint part of the solution.

  59. zyconoclast

    Craig Reucassel shows respect for women.

    NSFW

    [email protected] of Steel Australia | Series 2 Episode 6 | Dead Parrot

    Watch from 7:50
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6k3xtv

  60. Senile Old Guy

    SMH:

    Prominent businesswoman Diane Smith-Gander has slammed broadcaster Alan Jones over his on-air treatment of Sydney Opera House chief Louise Herron, saying that men bullying women is “worse than any other sort of bullying”.

    Really? That’s being a bit sexist, isn’t it?

    Ms Smith-Gander, the immediate past president of Chief Executive Women and a board member of Wesfarmers and AGL, said Jones’ very public attack on Ms Herron on Friday had been “startling” and failed to recognise the broader impact of that kind of “role modelling”.

    The “very public attack” is because Herron agreed to an interview with Jones. And everyone knows how Jones interviews people he disagrees with. Jones had a legitimate point: showing just the racing colours was useless. And the Opera House has had plenty of other stuff projected onto it. It looked a lot like Herron objecting to something she did not like being shown.

  61. C.L.

    So that’s where we’re at now.
    When a public man strongly criticises a public woman, it’s “bullying.”
    Diddums.

  62. Top Ender

    Clive Palmer’s advertising blitz for his latest political bid topped $1 million last month in radio and TV, new research shows, as the businessman’s representatives indicate his media bombardment may be just beginning.

    Media and marketing consultancy Ebiquity has estimated Mr Palmer spent $1.005m on 1168 separate TV and radio ad slots in the capital cities during the month.

    This figure included $600,000 on TV ads in Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth, and nearly $407,000 on three radio stations in Sydney, Brisbane and Canberra.

    And Mr Palmer’s media spokesman, Andrew Crook, has cryptically suggested this torrent of political self-promotion may be far from over, ahead of a likely federal election in the first half of next year.

    “We mightn’t have even started,” Mr Crook said. “We haven’t even started. You’ll have to wait and see.”

    Ebiquity’s figures show Fairfax Media radio offshoot Macquarie Media, owner of 2GB and 4BC, has been the biggest beneficiary of the media spending of Palmer’s United Australia Party, reaping an estimated $400,000.

    The radio network ran a total of 787 ad slots last month on Sydney’s 2GB — home to high-­profile radio broadcasters Alan Jones and Ray Hadley — and Brisbane’s 4BC.

    Oz – comments open

    and Wiki conveniently reminds us:

    In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

  63. Oh come on

    Just posted at ABC Online … the end of East Germany was a travesty against a wonderful country.

    LOL what you get when history is written by losers. Pretty funny how all the whinging Krauts that waxed lyrical about the glorious lifestyle in the GDR left Germany to live in collectives. You can’t make this shit up.

  64. Des Deskperson

    “I assume they are still being paid by the ABC.”

    I don’t think there is any Chaser-produced shows on the ABC at the moment, but they may be paid some sort of ongoing retainer. We will never know because ABC commercial agreements are opaque.

    Basically, they are a private company with most of their ongoing revenue presumably coming from flogging Chaser-branded merchandise. Here is their website:

    https://chasershop.com

    Note that they are still flogging Fathers’ Day products, a month after Farthers’ Day.

    feeltheburn at 10.29 above has their measure!!

  65. struth

    Who is Nicholas Reece?

    Is he that young imbecile left wing presenter on Skynews?

    Schooling him is no great feat.

    Dumb as a box of rocks.

    Monty level “repeat talking points” without questioning a thing.

    Oh, good Moaning.

    We were once right to look upon the USA as an influence on Australia.
    Are we now?
    Once you cross a certain line, like say, Venezuela, are the battles being fought in the USA, when the right wins, any reason whatsoever for us to celebrate “all this winning”
    They don’t even have an ambassador here anymore.

    We are rightly considered a lost nation to the USA.
    We are the Chinese and UN lackies of no importance.

    To my mind, there is no winning here, the effects of Trump are being viciously fought here by the left, and we continue to sail down shit creek, blindfolded by the MSM and the march through our institutions.

    The election of Trump is, basically, not good for the socialist countries of the wold, of which we most definitely are, and not because it will make us see the light and change, hurting socialism.
    It will actually increase the level of totalitarianism and overall misery of the people in those countries as the socialists in control double down.
    There is that tipping point and we fell over it , I believe, in 2007.

    I can understand throwing domestic politics under a bus as it’s too heart breaking, and clinging to Trump’s wins in the USA as a win for us as well, but it isn’t and it won’t be.

    When you look at it, California, inside the USA, but heavily socialist, isn’t winning, how the hell do we see ourselves winning?

    We haven’t won a thing.

    Right now, we are about to enter an agreement that hands our sovereignty over to global socialists in the UN, who will decide who and how many come to our country, and give billions of our taxes to them.

    Is it the right thing for you to do, to give the fight away here, to cling to some winning in another country, to bury our heads in the sand, when that county has , rightly, given us away as a lost cause?
    Even if they haven’t, our socialists are so in control now, what can the USA do for us?

    Winning?
    There is sweet fanny adams of it in this hemisphere.

    Are we going to let Sco Mo do to us what they are about to sneak through, while we watch and cheer the election of a judge in the states?

  66. Oh come on

    Right now, there are only two decent SCOTUS judged.
    John Roberts & Neil Gorsuch.

    Huh?? Roberts is a squish! What about Alito and Thomas? Thomas is arguably sounder than the late Scalia, who Gorsuch replaced.

  67. Top Ender

    Crossborder rustlers rort NSW drink container refund scheme

    Used drink containers are being driven by the truckload into NSW from Queensland and Victoria in an organised bid to rort a container deposit scheme by claiming a 10c deposit for bottles and cans bought outside the state.

    Supermarkets on the NSW side of the border have called for an independent inquiry into the container deposit scheme, declaring it is costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Bob Matthews, who owns four IGA stores along the NSW-­Victoria border, said he had seen semi-trailers with Victorian registration plates pull up at the Return and Earn scheme vending machine at his East Albury store to deposit their loads.

    “There is product coming to NSW in bulk. Semi-trailers are coming to NSW and some people are making a lot of money out of it,’’ Mr Matthews said. “I want an inquiry. Why is it being rorted?’’

    Geoff Provest, the ­Nationals member for Tweed in the northern NSW border town of Tweed Heads, said he supported the scheme but there was “no doubt” it had prompted “semi-professionals” to travel across the border from Queensland in order to claim the refunds.

    Supermarket managers along the Victorian-NSW border told The Australian theywere cutting their profit margins to prevent customers shopping south of the Murray River. Since December 1, beverage companies in NSW have charged customers an extra 10c a drink “deposit” as well as several cents to cover the costs of the program.

    This deposit can be reclaimed by visiting one of the state’s 682 return points. To date, 777 million cans and bottles have been ­returned.

    Link

  68. what can the USA do for us?

    Invade and annex.

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So why didn’t you have a radio?

    And a Browning 9mm?

    And an attitude?

    Because you’re a chair-polishing sycophantic public-servant arse-kisser.

    Resign now!

    No jack handle in the car? No wheelbrace? Fvcking outstanding example of leadership.

  70. Rebel with cause

    Just posted at ABC Online … the end of East Germany was a travesty against a wonderful country.

    ABC journo reckons East Germany rocked because everyone was paid the same. Be careful what you wish for. Given how far above the average wage ABC staff get paid, the introduction to communism is going to be a little rough for Auntie’s worker collective.

  71. No jack handle in the car? No wheelbrace? Fvcking outstanding example of leadership.

    He had a car!

  72. Senile Old Guy

    Bolt again surrenders: no advertising that horse race on the Opera House. But action for alphabet people and sundry other causes is fine.

  73. John Constantine

    Big Australia is failing, the Ponzi must be given another leg up.

    https://www.9news.com.au/2018/10/09/05/57/population-plan

    We are so unswervingly committed to compliance with the agenda of the totalitarian nations of the world, as voted for in the branch stacked united nations, that if the population Ponzi has failed in Australian cities, we must frantically find somewhere else to stack the inflow of mass migration.

    Dump them in mass numbers from helicopters into the outback, we must never surrender the way we capitulate.

    Comrades.

  74. Nick

    I assume they are still being paid by the ABC.

    Phew, they’d have no problems then with the phone numbers of ABC staff and management being shown, as after all, they are paid by the public. Just as they asked for the same treatment when their salary levels were being questioned. Oh hang on.

  75. Mindfree

    Why they have that dumbfuck douchebag Reece on Sky is testament that it is more like ABC lite
    Besides being a regular Paul Murray, Bolt and so-called “other” Sky talking heads they even gave him his own show n Fridays at 8pm – watched by a miniscule audience I understand

    And to push that ABC lite point further check out the promos for dipshit Laura Jayes and that other moron Keiran Gilbert

  76. John Constantine

    Their jacindamania insists that new zealands demographic transformation will never be based upon merit and shared values having any place in the mass migration intake.

    Their Winston Peters says it might be an issue at the next election.

    The once free nations of the West must all fall under the totalitarian control of the transnational looting cartels, and they must pay the bill for the transformation.

    Comrades.

  77. harrys on the boat

    Which Chaser was it who got outed for mentally and physically abusing his girlfriend, despite all his mates (female too) covering for him?

  78. Infidel Tiger

    Happy 17th Birthday to the Afghanistan War!

    Pretty soon we will have veterans kids fighting the same futile war.

  79. Senile Old Guy

    That ABC piece on East Germany is bizarre. (And full of selective quoting.)

    To them, East Germany’s society had been kinder and friendlier, and it made much more sense to them than the capitalist society that they were suddenly part of. In East Germany, in theory at least, “there was no difference in payment or in stature between a teacher or the director of the biggest factory — they had the same social stature”, Christian says.

    In “theory at least”; but not in practice.

    “Everybody — the director of the company, the cleaner — got a house, they all got their health insurance, they all bought the same bread and the same butter. It was available for everyone.” For many young East Germans, who hadn’t yet had experiences with the darker sides of their government, or any other political system, the change seemed unnecessary.

    The “darker side” being the side that dragged you off to the gulag for thought crime.

    And despite what Westerners thought of East Germany and its lack of commercial goods, “you could buy a Sony Walkman”, Christian says. “It cost you three months’ salary. But if you wanted one, sure you could have it,” he says. “If you wanted to have a colour TV, no problem. It cost you a whole year of your income.” “Everybody thinks it’s weird — why would a television be so expensive? The question should be: how can a television be so cheap?”

    …because the components are mostly worth little. You are paying for labour and taxes.

    Of course, the ABC, being a government funded enterprise which could not compete commercially, is in favour of government funded enterprises.

  80. struth

    We fight now via the keyboard and by writing letters to our reps etc, and we fight hard doing this, or we’ll be fighting a bloodthirsty violent fight.

    I have written to many , including skynews and Credlin etc, asking this basic question about the UN and Western made Climate change.

    If the UN believes in Climate Change, and it’s such an urgent impending catastrophe, then why do they have no problem with non western, and especially socialist countries, building the hundreds of coal powered stations they are?

    We should never have let the argument be about whether or not climate change is happening.
    This plays right into their hands.
    They can produce bullshit scientific papers by paid partisan hacks until the cows come home.

    What they don’t want asked is the above question.
    They would rather the argument be about validity of the science, and not the fact that their actions prove they don’t believe in global warmening either.

    Why doesn’t any journo on Sky, who claim to be right wing, pick up on this, even without me writing to point it out?

  81. struth

    I ask others to write to skynews to ask the same question, and your reps, so these people see that it’s not just one freak pestering them about this.

  82. thefrollickingmole

    And despite what Westerners thought of East Germany and its lack of commercial goods, “you could buy a Sony Walkman”, Christian says.
    “It cost you three months’ salary. But if you wanted one, sure you could have it,” he says.
    “If you wanted to have a colour TV, no problem. It cost you a whole year of your income.
    “Everybody thinks it’s weird — why would a television be so expensive? The question should be: how can a television be so cheap?”

    CL
    They should have withheld the voting rights of people this stupid.
    Its a slippery slope from color TVs to”how can a turnip be so cheap”

  83. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC:

    A report showing Australia is failing to rein in its greenhouse gas pollution was sat on for nearly two months by the Federal Government, before being released late on a Friday afternoon of a long weekend when footy finals fever and banking royal commission findings were dominating headlines, the ABC has learned.

    It has a single sentence noting one important issue:

    It also focused on emissions per head of population, which have declined.

    So, if you believe climate alarmism (I do not), the situation is better.

    And there is this lie:

    The tipping point’s been reached: the cold, hard numbers show that new renewable energy is supplying cheaper electricity than new coal-fired power plants could and will continue do so, writes Stephen Long.

    This is courtesy of subsidies to “renewable energy” (it isn’t; the windmills wear out) and taxes on coal.

    “They’re kicking the can down the road for the next government but in doing so they’re putting lives at risk because climate change is dangerous.”

    Says the Australian Con Foundation; sorry that should be “conservation”.

  84. John Constantine

    “The Morrison Government is considering forcing migrants to regional and rural centres for up to five years, as part of a four-point plan to ease congestion in capital cities as population growth outstrips infrastructure building.

    In a major speech later today, Cities and Population Minister, Alan Tudge, will reveal congestion cost $25 billion in 2017-18, and will rise to $40 billion a year by 2030.

    Mr Tudge will say travel in peak times in Sydney takes 65 percent longer than off-peak, and 55 percent, in Melbourne. ”

    It wasn’t long ago on the cat that stoushes were fought over there being no congestion from mass importation of property service clients, as travel times from the best parts of the city to the airport were actually faster, and that all apartment developments were luxury penthouse gentrification projects, no dogboxes at all.

    Still, our houses cost a million aussie dollars each now and both parents have to work while the State indoctrinates babies into Stalinism at one year old kinder.

    What could possibly go wrong with borrowing a trillion dollars for big australia, and ignoring a trillion dollars of unfunded infrastructure required by big australia, if it gets our political elites a Dacha only a few blocks from the united nations building on Manhattan Island?.

    Dump them from helicopters into Wolf Creek if all the city dogboxes fill up, our unswerving loyalty to the great Stalinist five year plan of dekulakisation must never be in doubt.

    Their global holodomor must not allow stale pale males to hoard resources in free western nations, the transnational looting cartels must have all resources to ration out to permanently entrench Stalinism in the hearts of the entire human race.

    Comrades.

  85. Entropy

    I am honk the reason Nic Reece is so heavily used by Sky is becuase he is the designated fall guy by the ALP. No one else was willing.

  86. Mother Lode

    The teacher’s tweet was posted on the same day that Kavanaugh was confirmed to the Supreme Court by a bitterly divided U.S. Senate. It followed weeks of controversy surrounding claims that he sexually assaulted women three decades ago, which he strongly denies.

    Ummm…not just him. He has people who say it never happened, she has no one who will say it did. Then there was an investigation that agrees with him.

    This is an absurd piece of theatre.

    No one really believes Kavanaugh did anything wrong – his accusers and their sponsors certainly know better.

    And what would you expect a controversial appointment to SCOTUS to be? Well, someone who has made controversial decisions. But Kav hasn’t. It is why they had to invent the smear.

    But the lefties are acting as if there is a problem in the same way Marcel Marceau gave the impression of being trapped behind a wall, play acting, making exaggerated gestures.

    And the MSM just lapping it up. “Sure there is no evidence, and her story is contradictory so it cannot have happened, but she still says it, and that must mean something.”

    I have never known people to have such contempt for reality.

  87. Nick

    Nicholas Reece then said something like: “I am not aware of those claims….but but but Robert Doyle…etc”.

    How strange. You have a member of the Labor Party not aware of claims about his leader that were in the public domain, though knows everything enough to be able to express an opinion as to the veracity and suitability of a judge in a country far away.

    Strange.

  88. struth

    Sending the Liberal party to the bush would be a better idea.

    Come out here Sco Mo, we’ll be waiting, you fu…ing piece of UN traitorous shit.

    Australia is a big country.
    People can physically get away from your third world shit culture invasion plans.
    When they can’t anymore, watch out.
    When their caravan doesn’t save them, watch out.

  89. C.L.

    Kavanaugh’s decision to employ Fox Force Five as clerks makes me worry that the attacks on him brought on Stockholm Syndrome or – equally dreaded – a dose of the Abbotts.

  90. Geriatric Mayfly

    DRUGS USE ACROSS AUSTRALIA
    – ACT: highest use of fentanyl in a capital city, increased use of methylamphetamine, cocaine, MDA, oxycodone, fentanyl and heroin

    Can’t understand this. The most cosseted community in the Commonwealth, with an ACT government leading all to the sunlit uplands. And yet they are into the elephant tranquiliser.

  91. Dot;

    Really if we got rid of glyphosate, it would appear to benefit farmers the most.

    My bet is the manufacturer has a new product ready to go. This is the same deal as with the refrigerant gases that “Caused the hole in the Ozone Layer.”

  92. C.L.

    In the news today:

    1. As the High Court challenge to abortion clinic ‘safe access zones’ begins, there is much at stake.
    ———-
    2. Baby whale freed from shark nets off Gold Coast.

    Seaworld director of marine sciences, Trevor Long, said it was a distressing rescue.

    “It was a very, very young calf — heavily engaged in the net, it was almost enveloped in the net — so quite distressing for the calf and quite distressing for the mother,” Mr Long said.

    “It took around about three-quarters of an hour to rescue the animal

    “The mother was very close to the calf and very close to us and very interested in what we were doing.

    “I honestly believe the mother realised we were helping the calf and not injuring the calf and that was why she was calm.”

  93. thefrollickingmole

    But CL the whale was important, Human fetuses not so much…

  94. John Constantine

    So far, it has been accepted wisdom that per head of population, providing services and infrastructure is cheaper in a big city than in a remote rural setting in the middle of nowhere.

    How badly has the big Australia Ponzi scheme imploded if turnbulls ‘hide the next leg as two million temporary visa holders’ loophole failed and now we are frantically grasping for the ‘ dump the next million in the middle of nowhere’ loophole?.

    They obviously have studies showing it will all collapse inside five years anyway, as that is the postponement period they are begging for.

    At least the transnational cartels of despots and dictators will not be able to accuse australias political elites of being Enemies of the Global State by seeking to hoard resources away from the looters.

    When we say we are capitulating unconditionally, our word means something.

    Forward to the glorious Holodomor.

    Comrades

  95. feelthebern

    Which Chaser was it who got outed for mentally and physically abusing his girlfriend, despite all his mates (female too) covering for him?

    Amazingly, they have never been outed.

  96. struth

    There is a whole side of Australia that shakes their heads at urban people.

    People in country Australia (I hate the term “rural and remote”) see city people as a different breed.
    They see them as people unable to get a quiet moment to themselves, being bombarded with stupidity from all around.
    Those more likely to follow the latest fad, to be more concerned of what others think of them, and unable to see clearly, the forest due to the trees.
    Those who have no problem with lining up.
    Those who don’t know where their milk comes from.
    Those that sit in traffic jams never getting angry that the government is responsible for every second of it, and live like ants in a nest, it indeed is a scary thing to be like them.

    They put up with being invaded by the third world, and house prices only an imbecile would consider paying.

    Well that’s them, we say.
    They can have their cities.
    They can have their constant, meaningless distractions, fashions and fads.
    Good luck to them.

    But Mr Morrison, you start doing to us what you are doing to them, and by god, you’ll go down quicker than a whore at a football club piss up.

  97. .

    C.L.
    #2835135, posted on October 9, 2018 at 11:48 am

    Kavanaugh’s decision to employ Fox Force Five as clerks makes me worry that the attacks on him brought on Stockholm Syndrome or – equally dreaded – a dose of the Abbotts.

    Ah ah ah ah ah…I see ah, what you ah, did there.

  98. feelthebern

    But ScoMo did a lap at Bathurst.
    Doesn’t that paper over the rest of the cracks.
    Maybe he’ll go to the Everest too.
    & shot gun a VB.

  99. John Constantine

    If population Ponzis do not continue to grow exponentially, they have failed and must collapse.

    Their shorten with paramilitary death squads to crush complaints, a Zimbabwe level paper currency, millions of imported property clients with unserviceable interest only million dollar mortgages, electricity only during daylight hours and the chicoms offering to take the ports as interest payments on the debt.

    How long before they actually ban private weapon ownership?.

    The Bollards will not make them feel safe enough, once a few of them get screamed at in elevators.

    Comrades.

  100. feelthebern

    Within two years, everyone will be saying WTF were we all in on Kavanaugh.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But Mr Morrison, you start doing to us what you are doing to them, and by god, you’ll go down quicker than a whore at a football club piss up.

    Hear, hear. I moved out on an Australian city twenty years ago, and there is no way I’d ever go back to living in one.

  102. feelthebern

    Alan Jones is not just part of the swamp.
    He’s a key component.
    Terrible chap.

  103. H B Bear

    How does SloMo and the Lieborals propose keeping their population Ponzi pawns out in the bush? Ankle bracelets, internal border checks, stop and search powers for brown and yellow people?

    A courageous plan Minister.

  104. John Constantine

    Turn on their abc radio country hour and it is all roundup cancer.

    Okay, half an inch of rain overnight in the Mallee was a good thing, could make a very last gasp difference to a few crops and pastures. Look for the positives of the day.

  105. Entropy

    One of the unintended consequences of the fall of the Wall was the loss of a great example of the failures of socialism. The wall of course, was to stop people escaping.
    It as also very instructive to travel through Chckpoint Charlie from the bright lights and BMW infested streets of West Berlin to the grey, cinder block apartment block infested East Berlin where everyone had the same model Lada with the ‘choice’ of pastel colour that started fading three minutes out of the factory. Where tourist shops sold horrible East German cheese, rock hard black bread, postcards featuring said Apartment Blocks, and otherwise the shelves did not have much in them at all.

  106. Farmer Gez

    Scumbag Joel Fitzgibbon casting doubt over the independence of the Federal appointed chemical regulator APVMA because of application funding from chemical companies.
    This also casts doubt over animal health products.
    Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority.
    Appointees would have been approved under Labor and LNP governments.
    ABC dicks are asking if there needs to be an inquiry into the APVMA.
    Fear and smear.

  107. Cassie of Sydney

    I commented about this earlier on Tim Blair and I will repeat it here…..it was very sweet to see Chris Kenny on Credlin last night smack down the progressive “women are always to be believed” Nicholas Reece…except of course when it comes to a certain leader of a political party in this country. Kenny walloped Reece for blatant hypocrisy on Kavanaugh vis a vis Shorten. Reece and the left’s double standards were completely exposed by Kenny…Reece became visibly pale, the smirk evaporated from his face and he became a little tongue stuck. There needs to be more of this..a lot more.

  108. cohenite

    Craig Mackey who sat in his car while one of his men was stabbed to death at Westminster by this muslim who is not worthy of a name.

    Come to think of it neither is the bastard who sat in his car with the doors locked as the fatally wounded officer stumbled past.

  109. Elle

    Alan Jones is not just part of the swamp.
    He’s a key component.
    Terrible chap.

    I feel sick. Showering with young guys? I remember hearing, when he coached the Balmain Tigers, he would get into the shower with the blokes after training.

    I have often disagreed with some of his views and who he has backed, and have turned him off when his ranting becomes too much. I remeber him criticising the development at Circular Quay- the “Toaster”. He then bought an apartment there and now lives in it!

    I’m going to change channels, but what to. Is there another radio channel that is right of centre? Might have to switch over to Jonesy and Amanda on FM. Sigh. 😔

  110. .

    Clubb’s case is going to make the leftist High Court spew some absolute nonsense.

    Interesting to see how selectively they apply the external affairs power vis a vis the ICCPR and UNDHR.

    Now to an extent to States claim plenary power.

    I don’t think she can win on an implied free speech or even a political protest angle. She should, but probably won’t.

    The issue is free association and private property rights. The problem here is that she would not have standing. Another angle is this that would mean there is an unequal guarantee of rights without due process.

    Just breezing through, the law possibly breachs articles 12 and 14 of the ICCPR.

    (BTW, Article 15 outlaws retrospective criminal law – they are ALL ILLEGAL in Australia). THAT IS THE LAW – I am reading the received copy of the ICCPR as assented to by Parliament in 1980).

    The States may claim their law supports article 17.

    Clubb’s strongest claims are from Articles 18 and 19, but there is a savings provision.

    The idea that the constitution or ICCPR impliedly says that someone has a right to walk into an abortion clinic without hearing or merely SEEING non-violent protest is bizarre and there is no legal authority to support it.

    Unless the court finds the ICCPR somehow supports the absurd plenary powers the States claim; in as much in the Coal Cases they claimed virtually unlimited power.

  111. I am bespoke

    I actually saw him in a gay bar

    Elle?

  112. Elle

    I actually saw him in a gay bar

    Elle?

    I was a bit of a f*g hag. Have a number of gay friends. It was one of the gay bars in Newtown and back when AJ lived in a warehouse transformed into a home in Newtown.

  113. jupes

    Happy 17th Birthday to the Afghanistan War!

    Are they still looking for an “exit strategy”?

    Seeing as though they aren’t willing to try the traditional one i.e. victory, then there is only one other: Slink off and lose.

  114. Farmer Gez

    Okay, half an inch of rain overnight in the Mallee was a good thing, could make a very last gasp difference to a few crops and pastures. Look for the positives of the day.

    Just enough to wet the footpath around here.
    I blame the wind turbines for pushing the rain away.
    Prove me wrong.

  115. jupes

    I feel sick. Showering with young guys? I remember hearing, when he coached the Balmain Tigers, he would get into the shower with the blokes after training.

    Relax Elle. Blokes have always showered together. There is nothing gay about it.

    Of course if Big Al was offering to lather the players or walking around with a boner then that’s another thing all together.

  116. Death Giraffe

    I’m going to change channels, but what to. Is there another radio channel that is right of centre? Might have to switch over to Jonesy and Amanda on FM. Sigh.

    ..
    Podcasts.

  117. Death Giraffe

    I’m going to change channels, but what to. Is there another radio channel that is right of centre? Might have to switch over to Jonesy and Amanda on FM. Sigh.

    ..
    Podcasts.

  118. mh

    I feel sick. Showering with young guys? I remember hearing, when he coached the Balmain Tigers, he would get into the shower with the blokes after training.

    Alan was a very ‘hands-on’ trainer. But seriously, if he’s been running around too working up a sweat, why shouldn’t he be showering with them? I’m sure Blocker would have put Alan in his place if he was getting up to anything.

  119. Woolfe

    To be fair a and this is da Kat lot of the deaths on farms are Darwinism though from the average age they have probably contributed to the gene pool. Chance of skin cancer can be reduced significantly with annual check ups and hacking out suspicious blemishes.

    Had one 2 cut out last month and was told the one was a BCG and the other not. I asked for my money back on the one that was not and got a funny look from my dermatologist, he will probably cut back on the local anaesthetic next time.

  120. Top Ender

    The Triggster gets a serve in the Strewth column in the Oz:

    Rights and very wrongs

    Former human rights commissioner Gillian Triggs is, as we know, a terribly humble woman, concerned only with the plight of the tired, the poor and the huddled masses. This we know because she has a book out — it’s emblazoned with an image of her own pretty face — in which she talks about all her good works, and some of the publicity, well, you can read it for yourself:

    “How did this aspiring ballet dancer, dignified daughter of a tank commander and eminent law academic respond when appreciative passengers on a full airplane departing Canberra greeted her with a round of applause?” Yes, how did she cope?

    If you’re at a loose end this week, you can find out by attending an event with Triggs at the Australian National University’s Coombs Lecture Theatre. And hey, while you’re there, if you get a chance, maybe ask her how she’s getting away with calling her book Speaking Up? Speaking up! Yes, for “the values that underpin our democracy”, Triggs says in her tome, and for “people who need protection”. Like, say, Bill Leak, who was subjected to death threats of sufficient seriousness to warrant the attention of the NSW police for drawing cartoons about mad mullahs? Let’s just not go there.

  121. Death Giraffe

    Alan was a very ‘hands-on’ trainer. But seriously, if he’s been running around too working up a sweat, why shouldn’t he be showering with them?

    ..
    Because he was the coach.
    And you can’t retain respect if you franternize with those you have to select and critique.
    The same reason good coaches don’t go out on the piss with the boys and stay all night.

  122. candy

    Alan Jones seems the old fashioned type of chap who keeps his homosexuality private.
    He may have done some maybe questionable things when younger and struggling with the issue, but I can’t see him doing harm to anyone. He enjoyed the male company and sport, it was his life by all accounts.

  123. Elle

    Relax Elle. Blokes have always showered together. There is nothing gay about it.

    Of course if Big Al was offering to lather the players or walking around with a boner then that’s another thing all together.

    Sorry, didn’t state that well. Nothing wrong with blokes showering together. Watch ya self in jail though. 😉 If you read the link one if his students mentions the showering.

  124. struth

    As A driver of oversize loads, I could never have the radio on.

    Had to listen to what’s going on.

    I was taught old school trucking.
    You don’t have music and noise going on when you are driving heavy vehicles, you are listening and watching all the time for things to go wrong.

    Many times I have driven from one side of Australia to the other, when driving cars through to non oversize roadtrains, and could have had the radio on but didn’t .
    Not once.

    I believe it is one of the healthiest things for your mind you can do, and something previous generations often did.
    A couple of hours on a horse this way and that.
    Only books if no others were present.
    Being constantly bombarded with noise is insanity inducing, and actually relates back to what I was saying up thread about urban living.

    You can actually chose to listen to nobody.
    It’s not law yet.
    And I reckon it’s one of the greatest things you can do for yourself.
    Sort of regular periods of “time out” to collect your thoughts.

  125. H B Bear

    Triggsy’s book tour might be an opportunity to head along along and ask how the family is doing?

  126. Cactus

    Watch ya self in jail though.

    Advice to people about to enter Jail. Don’t drop the soap when you are in the communal shower. Sports teams in the afternoon are picked by captains – and you don’t want to get a reputation for being clumsy.

  127. Elle

    Alan Jones seems the old fashioned type of chap who keeps his homosexuality private.
    He may have done some maybe questionable things when younger and struggling with the issue, but I can’t see him doing harm to anyone. He enjoyed the male company and sport, it was his life by all accounts.

    Yes, public toilets are really private.

    Questionable things? When you’re a teacher, hands off your students. The article is quite disturbing, but for some reason he has survived all the “questionable things”.

  128. mh

    Because he was the coach.
    And you can’t retain respect if you franternize with those you have to select and critique.

    Alan Jones has always been highly successful at any coaching job he has turned his hand to. Even Pirate Pete reluctantly admits Jones was the best coach he ever had.

  129. Mother Lode

    But seriously, if he’s been running around too working up a sweat, why shouldn’t he be showering with them?

    I expect we would have heard far earlier if there had been any issue of him staring at the players or becoming…er…tumescent, in their midst.

    Football players can only achieve erection with their mates and a single nymph trying to see and speak through their drug induced stupor.

  130. Death Giraffe

    I think the article is, at the very least, in poor taste Elle.
    Has the whiff of a smear job.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    Alan Jones seems the old fashioned type of chap who keeps his homosexuality private.
    He may have done some maybe questionable things when younger and struggling with the issue, but I can’t see him doing harm to anyone. He enjoyed the male company and sport, it was his life by all accounts.

    Yes.
    And he loves gladiator movies.

  132. candy

    Questionable things? When you’re a teacher, hands off your students. The article is quite disturbing, but for some reason he has survived all the “questionable things”.

    I just don’t want to jump to a conclusion he interfered with a minor when there is no evidence.

  133. Roger

    Albanese getting a free run from the ABC from Cairns:

    “We want a panel of six “eminent Australians” to determine population policy.”

    Ordinary, working people can’t be trusted to express an opinion, apparently.

  134. Old School Conservative

    After criticising the unprovable allegations against Kavanagh, we have Cats doing exactly the same thing to Alan Jones.

    “Saw him in a gay bar” = he is gay. Until the observer is accused of being gay too then there are all sorts of explanations for being in a gay bar. Which apply to Jones too.
    “Showering with young guys? I remember hearing, when he coached the Balmain Tigers, he would get into the shower with the blokes after training.” Wow, there’s a lot of proof in that statement too. Jones’ Balmain gig came after his Manly and Wallabies tenures so therefore there must be rumours dating back to his rugby days too. However, there is no mention of those rumours which casts significant doubt on the Balmain rumours.
    “I knew he had been arrested all those years ago in the UK.” But no mention that the authorities dropped all charges and were forced to pay costs. That little fact goes against the narrative that Jones was doing something nasty in the public toilet.
    “If what is in this 2006 article by Chris Masters is true – young boys??” Let’s hang the man because it MIGHT be true.

    Those are real Democrat smear tactics as Pelosi explained.
    Used against one of the toughest critics of the left.

    Jones has put himself on the line many times in his career to advance conservative values and deserves the respect of truthful analysis, not rumour and innuendo.

  135. Elle

    Well, alarm bells were ringing for numerous people, it would appear, Candy.

    Arky. Maybe. It was the SMH afterall. Thanks for the podcast suggestion. Cheers. 🙂

  136. Rebel with cause

    Used to have a schoolboy rugby coach that loved doing the drills with us and hitting the showers after training. He had rugby shorts that must’ve been 20 years old and of the “barley there” variety. A few times when he forgot his gear he just trained in his undies. “Tackle me boys, tackle me” he’d cry as he slipped through our hands. A great man and a great coach.

  137. hzhousewife

    You can actually chose to listen to nobody.
    It’s not law yet.
    And I reckon it’s one of the greatest things you can do for yourself.
    Sort of regular periods of “time out” to collect your thoughts.

    I like your way of thinking struth.
    Every time I see a politician in a kindergarten the thought always comes to me, why so busy why so much stuff?
    The kids are surrounded by other kids and tons of stuff, never complete anything just by themselves, constant interruptions, no idle time. Not good for anyone’s brain, especially a young one.

  138. min

    I listened to the podcast of Kenny and Reece and did not hear Kenny’s challenge . In fact was wondering why Shorten’s alleged activities were ignored and thought about e mailing Sharri. However may have been deleted . Of course the supplying of alcohol and drugs to under age members of group was not investigated either.

  139. Chris

    Struth, thanks for that great recommendation to shut the noise off.
    You can do that? For hours or days? what a better life I would have.

  140. Peter Campion

    struth
    #2835124, posted on October 9, 2018 at 11:38 am
    I ask others to write to skynews to ask the same question, and your reps, so these people see that it’s not just one freak pestering them about this.

    Struth, I feel your pain. I just sent this to Bolta, Peta, Pauly and Rowan’n’Ross….

    Dear Sky after darkers

    It’s make or break time for Prime Minister ScoMo.

    The UN’s Green Climate Fund is nearly broke so the UN’s IPCC has gone full fright-bat.

    “Oh, no!” they wail, “it’s worse than we thought! You all have to give up coal, cars and steaks!”

    This is high-order wrongology and is intentionally designed to break Western countries.

    The arm-waving warmunists have never had a single scary prediction eventuate.

    This is the big test for ScoMo and he needs to be asked this question.

    Will he give yet more of our hard-earned cash to the global-socialists?

    Or will he call their bluff and tell them to go jump?

    If ScoMo capitulates he should be told he’s a Labor-lite Turnbullian lackey of the eco-commies.

    If he stands strong then he may be worth voting for.

    Can you do that for me, team?

    Peter Campion

  141. feelthebern

    I actually saw him in a gay bar

    All bars in Sydney are gay.
    & most pubs are turning into bars or family restaurants or pokie dens.

  142. Woolfe

    Kats will not be surprised to learn that Adam Goodes is on the tax payer teat and hanging out with Pyne

    @MarkStewart_EY

    Great discussion on Defence Industry with Christoper Pyne, Darrin Grimsey, Chris Jenkins, Adam Goodes and Dr Karen Stanton

  143. Farmer Gez

    To be fair a and this is da Kat lot of the deaths on farms are Darwinism though from the average age they have probably contributed to the gene pool.

    Some maybe but most are due the the use of equipment in the natural environment not nice flat dry cement surfaces. We simply face more risk than most occupations and when shit happens we are often alone and far from help. Counry people die at a higher rate because emergency acute care is hours away. I don’t know what Darwin has to do with that.

  144. feelthebern

    Who cares if AJ is gay or not.
    My comment that he is a terrible chap are based purely on his economic idiocy.

  145. Rossini

    Old School Conservative
    #2835198, posted on October 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm
    +1

  146. C.L.

    Being constantly bombarded with noise is insanity inducing, and actually relates back to what I was saying up thread about urban living.

    You can actually chose to listen to nobody.
    It’s not law yet.
    And I reckon it’s one of the greatest things you can do for yourself.
    Sort of regular periods of “time out” to collect your thoughts.

    Strewth, you might be interested in this book by Cardinal Sarah:

    The Power of Silence: Against the Dictatorship of Noise.

  147. Mother Lode

    I was walking through Hurstville late one evening toward Forest Road. I cut a corner at the edge of a public car park – it was reasonably well illuminated for the most part. I suddenly heard a guy speak up asking if he knew me. Just a normal looking middle aged guy. I worked at a bar some times and often ran into customers I could not remember – they had more reason to remember me as an emissary of hope bearing blissful cheap piss.

    I looked at him and said I didn’t think so. He repeated he was sure. I just looked at him like “What the hell is he on about.”

    Then he broke the pretense and said he was sure he knew what he was asking, and it only dawned on me then. A quick “No, thanks” and I moved quickly on.

    It was one of the most wretched, saddest things I had seen.

  148. feelthebern

    WTF does Goodes know about defence ?
    WTF does Pyne know about defence for that matter ?
    Although he is an expert in able bodied semen.

  149. Woolfe

    I agree Gez, distance is a massive factor. I am in mining and though remote we have mobile comms and are an hour from Port Hedland by chopper plus have a sealed airstrip. Take care out there.

  150. thefrollickingmole

    struth

    The driving quiet has a fair bit going for it.
    I quite enjoy a quiet think while the Kms fly by, and 90% of whats on the radio is crap anyway.

  151. Adam Foster

    When you’re a teacher, hands off your students.

    The world is so hyper sexualised now we can’t imagine that contact comes for any other reason than sexual desire.

    Jones was a rugby coach. If he had made an unwelcome touch on any player, his face would have got rearranged.

    Leftists fantasise about gay footy players because it is a way to shove identity politics into the change rooms. Normal people just want to play football.

  152. Elle

    Old School Conservative, is that you AJ? Have loved your work for 30 years. Best rugby union coach ever, even if you did enjoy lathering up with the team 😘

    I played rep sport and remember showers with the girls, but not the coach. He would have looked out of place. 😉

  153. Death Giraffe

    Lefties always happy to bring out all the old gay innuendo.
    If it was one of their own you would be a bigot for even mentioning it at all.

  154. Death Giraffe

    Fuggin hypnocrats.

  155. Mother Lode

    In fact was wondering why Shorten’s alleged activities were ignored and thought about e mailing Sharri.

    Was Shorten ever actually named? As I recall it was always a Senior Labor Figure.

    In any event, plod rather peremptorily declared there was nothing to it. So keeping it on the podcast might be considered slander that Sky wanted to avoid.

  156. feelthebern

    As above, who cares if AJ is gay. Or not.
    However, Pyne is a mincing poodle (h/t Julia Gillard) & shall remain fair game.

  157. H B Bear

    Who cares if AJ is gay or not.
    My comment that he is a terrible chap are based purely on his economic idiocy.

    The Old Fruit is a blight on the Australian democracy. Having PMs enter the studio on bended knees is embarrassing. Where is the Australian Trump when you need him?

    Teh Weekend Australian magazine ran a profile on him a year or two ago. He is a fvckin’ weirdo.

  158. Boambee John

    bern at 1106

    Anyone expecting anything but swampie like behaviour from Kavanaugh will be disappointed.

    I suspect that the Demorats forgot some sage advice from the era of kings with real power.

    “If you would strike at tbe king, be sure to strike true, else his vengeance will be harsh.”

    Kavanaugh might once have been a true DC squish, but after the way his family has suffered, his inclination to look for a way to support the “progressive” agenda and narrative is likely to be non-existent.

  159. Rebel with cause

    Leftists fantasise about gay football players. Another way to shove identity politics into our lives. Using sexual identity to rip apart the bonds between team mates and coach.

  160. feelthebern

    Please respect Doomlord’s requests regarding a Senior Labor Figure.
    I went out of my way to not mention the allegation when describing the exchange up-thread.
    We should only mention the exact allegation re the SLF when the Doomlord says so.
    He has made it very clear in the past it is a red line.
    A Trump red line.
    Not an Obama red line.

  161. Elle

    It wasn’t about AJ being gay. Have been a fan of his for years and supported him when the leftards at work have bagged him out. The article was somewhat disturbing, tis all.

  162. Roger

    WTF does Goodes know about defence ?

    Nothing, but he’s the face for an indigenous materiel supplier and the government, in its wisdom, has mandated that x% of defence contracts go to indigenous suppliers.

  163. feelthebern

    I struggle to think of a bigger sook in Australian sporting history than Adam Goodes.

  164. thefrollickingmole

    12 years till we all fry….
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report

    Any of the usual suspects buying bunkers, selling their harbourside mansions and moving to higher ground yet?

    Overwhelmed by climate change? Here’s what you can do
    From campaigning to installing insulation and solar panels, some practical steps you can take to help avoid climate breakdown

    Collective action
    Eat less meat – particularly beef
    Insulate homes
    Solar panels
    Transport
    Reduce, recycle, reuse
    Vote

    Nothing about forming your own gang of post collapse marauders ravaging the baked wastelands for scattered groups of survivors to exploit/eat.
    Nothing about walling off your own private paradise and arming sentries to kill all who approach.
    Nothing about taking a massive overdose after you poison your own kids to spare them the hell that awaits.

    Until they start doing that how can we take them seriously?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw03AAVUFtA

  165. .

    Hold out until 2030 and we can make (warmies) them go away forever.

  166. Boambee John

    struth at 1136

    They would rather the argument be about validity of the science, and not the fact that their actions prove they don’t believe in global warmening either.

    It was never about science, always about power and money.

    Pointing out the fallacies of climate diverts attention from the real game.

  167. min

    Alleged perp was named and victim’s statement can be read online. She suffered PTSD seeing him on tv.
    Although she gave names of other participants ,police said they could not find them hence not enough evidence to proceed.
    I have had this happen to clients so aware of process and what can happen to victims
    However how does one measure respect of women ?

  168. John Comnenus

    So Allan Jones might have showered with big boofy ADULT males after training. Please advise me when it became a crime to be gay and participate in stuff most blokes have done, like showering in communal showers after a footy game or after training. And what about famed Manly, NQ and NSW hard man ‘Cabanosi’ Roberts? Let’s not stop whilst we are defaming and destroying anyone for being gay in sport who used a communal shower. Maybe the SSM crowd is now happy to recriminalise homosexuality – because you know you can never be sure.

    This is a disgusting smear of Jones and I don’t even like the guy because of his insane anti fracking and anti Wagners position. By the way that Wagners airport in Toowoomba is fantastic opening up export markets to farmers. But the smearing of Jones is as stupid and wrong as Jones’s smearing of the Wagners.

  169. Woger:

    “We want a panel of six “eminent Australians” to determine population policy.”

    OK. I want to pick them.
    Me/John Constantine/Struth/Calli/Elle/Monty.

  170. John Comnenus

    Min

    Ford named three independent witnesses who either failed to corroborate her claim or flat out refuted it. So it’s 4 witnesses (incl Kav) v Ford. That’s not even reasonable doubt, that’s no doubt that she is at best mistaken and most likely malicious.

  171. Leigh Lowe

    Kats will not be surprised to learn that Adam Goodes is on the tax payer teat and hanging out with Pyne

    @MarkStewart_EY

    Great discussion on Defence Industry with Christoper Pyne, Darrin Grimsey, Chris Jenkins, Adam Goodes and Dr Karen Stanton

    So Defence is now buying imaginary spears as well as imaginary submarines?

  172. Doomlord, my comment of extraordinary witticism and knowledge is in moderation and I cannot tell why.
    Could you let me know what part it is that offends you so?

  173. .

    However how does one measure respect of women ?

    I’m glad you asked.

  174. Nick

    Any Cats ever read the great book, ‘salute to the great Mc Carthy’? Written in the early 70’s, the High School coach bears an uncanny resemblance to a well known Sydney radio identity. I’m not saying this as a pile on, though you’d be surprised at the commonality of stories from those who worked in schools previously with the great man.

  175. Death Giraffe

    Walking the dogs.
    Light drizzle. Hear loud speaker from schoolyard:
    “It’s raining so we won’t be going outside at lunchtime today. The whole school will stay inside the designated buildings. There won’t be any ball games. I want you all to find Something. Quiet. To. Do”.
    In the 21st century everything is gay.
    In fact the gays are now the least gay thing about the entire world.
    I wish I was a gay.
    Then I could be not as gay as everything else now is.

  176. Great discussion on Defence Industry with Christoper Pyne, Darrin Grimsey, Chris Jenkins, Adam Goodes and Dr Karen Stanton

    Blood marvellous. Not content with nail polish, high heels, Mardi Gras marching and NBN subs the military will now replace the Steyr with spears, bazookas with boomerangs and camo cream with white ocre. Then protect the nation from mean comments spoken by 12 year old girls.

  177. .

    Goodes may well be better than Pyne, Payne etc.

    You’d almost be better grabbing someone at random off the street.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Please respect Doomlord’s requests regarding a Senior Labor Figure.
    I went out of my way to not mention the allegation when describing the exchange up-thread.

    Was that the one about him punching a wall in close proximity to a sheila?

  179. Woger:

    “We want a panel of six “eminent Australians” to determine population policy.”

    OK. I want to pick them.
    Me, John Constantine, Struth, Calli, Elle, Monty.

  180. C.L.

    I’ve showered with literally dozens of footballers.

  181. Farmer Gez

    Now the ABC is claiming Taylor Swift has come out in favour of the Dems because the alt right were trying to pressure her to come out on their side according to music journalist (Fairfax) Andrew Stafford.
    Much praise for The Boss and his stand against Trump. Artists need to speak out as democratic norms are being torn down and an autocratic system put in its place. Andrew knows these truths and the ABC vomits it out to the dupes.
    The truth is that the left have been stalking Swift and claiming she was WASP Trump moll.
    Politics is only a problem if the artist is conservative.

  182. Lefties always happy to bring out all the old gay innuendo.
    If it was one of their own you would be a bigot for even mentioning it at all.

    Yup, couldn’t care less if AJ is gay, he’s one of us.
    Conversely, lefty poofters should all be rounded up and handed over to ISIS.

  183. Elle

    So Allan Jones might have showered with big boofy ADULT males after training. Please advise me when it became a crime to be gay and participate in stuff most blokes have done, like showering in communal showers after a footy game or after training. 

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that. I didn’t express myself very well. I was referring to the article by Chris Masters. He mentions showering and I was reminded of the good old days of rugby league back in the 80s when stuff was written about AJ. I didn’t make it up. I simply read about it.

  184. .

    Taylor Swift is probably shy conservative.

  185. Elle

    *and stuff was said

    Think I’ll stop while I’m behind 🙃

  186. Farmer Gez

    I’ve showered with literally dozens of footballers.

    Not golden I hope C.L.

  187. John Constantine

    Crickets are the Gateway Bug.

    Their ABC radio country hour took a break from roundup cancer to tell us we don’t have to eat meat anymore, we can eat bugs and larvae.

    Hints of Vegemite.

    Rewilding the land means we are rich enough to eat bugs.

    Comrades.

  188. JC

    John

    I agree with you but I can’t ever side with this piece of shit. What he did to those two brothers in qld, the venom he’s spewed about fracking …… nothing bad that happens to him is enough.

  189. Mother Lode

    WTF does Goodes know about defence ?

    Precisely.

    This is the sort of thing Shorten would have been talking about with his ‘panel of six eminent Australians’.

    ‘Eminent’ just means part of the in crowd. Most people don’t care.

    Chrissie Pahn will actually think that Goodes will have something to contribute because he is an ’eminent Australian’. There will be some guff about ‘indigenous knowledge’. Hey, worked so well last time.

    We have an entire ‘elite’ class who are very light on knowledge. They see actual knowledge as mere something technical, but theirs is a higher calling to look at the bigger picture – which actually consists of each other.

    The people who would make the decisions consider we should feel blessed it is up to people without the prejudices of experience, the constraints of knowledge, or the shortsightedness of the ordinary people for solutions that won’t ruin their lives.

  190. H B Bear

    The King of Smug at the ALPBC Richard Fidler helps out an old mate of the staff co-op flog his book,

    Mike Carlton started out as a journa … CLICK.

  191. Dr Fred Lenin

    I totally agree with the Laboral pardee s plan to keep importing millions s of primitive African and muslim welfare recipients and re locating them to the country . The huge amounts of borrowed money Centrelink gives them will be a great boost to the country towns economies . It will also comply with the soros / u.n.communist Grand Plan for perpetual unelected world government ,it’s good to see our elected overpaid underfunctioning career politicians reading the desires of the voters so well,the media says we all want unelected communist government a media poll said 103.8765l per cent of voters expressed this desire ,even higher tham the scientists who support the gerbil worming theory .
    Workers of the world you nits , you are putting on your chains .

  192. stackja

    Regarding Alan Jones. I trust the judgement of John Brennan.

  193. Mother Lode

    Having PMs enter the studio on bended knees is embarrassing.

    Having PM’s who are prepared to enter the studio on bended knee is the embarrassment.

    If they even shared a testicle between them (like the Stygian witches shared an eye) what AJ might do wouldn’t matter.

    As it is our PM’s spend all their time trying to anticipate what the ABC and broadcasters want them to say and do.

  194. Beertruk

    stackja
    #2835024, posted on October 9, 2018 at 9:09 am
    Would there be concern if Red China owned the farms?

    My Brother in Law has had his farm up for sale for about the last three or four years. He doesn’t give a rats who buys it, as long as it is sold.

  195. stackja

    As I remember Mike Carlton failed on commercial radio breakfast. Later Alan Jones to over the slot.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I totally agree with the Laboral pardee s plan to keep importing millions s of primitive African and muslim welfare recipients and re locating them to the country .

    Should imagine that a rural town somewhere, with a single police officer, would be overjoyed to have their very own Sudanese gang move to their town.

  197. .

    How long in Australia until we see a sexual harassment case arising out of Tinder, etc?

  198. stackja

    Beer T – farms don’t attract the same interest as shares. Yet are more important.

  199. Atoms for Peace

    New line of top end caskets coming out in the USA.
    Made with liberals in mind, they are topped with spitoons so that the masses can express their appreciation.

  200. jupes

    So Defence is now buying imaginary spears as well as imaginary submarines?

    LOL

    We are truly the stupidest nation on earth.

  201. min

    John Comenus from min,
    I was not talking about K v Ford but Cathy v Snr Labor figure.
    Ford’s allegations very dubious ? I have dealt with many sexual assault victims and if it happened years ago,police will not touch it unless there is corroboration ,evidence etc but I have had perps jailed.
    One 15 yr old ended up with STI and DDP knocked her back, however doctor son tells me now they can get DNA from STI.

  202. Elle

    Stackja, Carlton was appaling. AJ took over on 2UE, if I remember rightly, then crossed to 2GB. Most of us followed him across.

    I want to apologize to those I appear to have offended. AJ too. It wasn’t my intention to smear AJ. I have written to Sinc asking him to remove my comments if I have crossed the line.

  203. bundyrum

    Wasn’t there an Eminent Persons Group (EPG) that went to sort out South Africa in the 80/90’s?
    That worked out well.

  204. OldOzzie

    If climate disaster is nigh, at least we’ll be spared IPCC reports – Judith Sloan


    Here we go again — a group of like-minded, henny-penny scientists telling us the world is about to be transformed in a bad way unless we act. Yes, we’ve heard it many times before.

    The good thing this time is that this group of credulous scientists who are part of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is telling us that we are so close to a tipping point that there will be no point issuing any more warnings. That will be a ­relief.

    Evidently, the difference ­between the world temperature rising by 2C and 1.5C is huge. More people being inundated, more floods/droughts, greater destruction of biodiversity, hardly any coral reefs left. You know, the normal catastrophic stuff.

    And “actions that can reduce emissions include: phasing out coal in the energy sector, increasing the amount of energy produced from renewable sources, electrifying transport and reducing the carbon footprint of the food we consume”. That is, all the favourites of the far-Left.

    Mind you, the content of the IPCC report released yesterday ain’t science. It doesn’t set out ­refutable hypotheses and test them. In fact, we don’t even have reliable data on global temperatures. Using climate models to support predictions of future disasters is actually not that far from making astrological prophecies.

    And, of course, scientists make truly appalling economists. They don’t understand the first thing about cost-benefit analysis. Check out this piece of guff: “Limiting ­global warming to 1.5C compared to 2C could go hand-in-hand with ensuring a more sustainable and equitable society.”

    Greenpeace activists display a banner during an activity prior to a press conference of
    To suggest that all coal-fired power stations will need to be closed by 2050 is not just silly, it is also completely naive. According to German environmental group Urgewald, “1600 coal plants are planned or currently under construction in 62 countries … The new plants will expand the world’s coal-fired power capacity by 43 per cent”.

    And bear in mind, most of these plants will last at least 50 years. Luckily, our own Prime Minister recognises the essentially fraudulent nature of these international reports. Scott Morrison said yesterday that “we’re not throwing money into some global climate fund and getting pulled around by the nose by all these international agencies when it comes to these other reports. I mean the same ­report that (came out yesterday) said a year ago that the policies were fine”.

    He may be weak for refusing to consider Australia pulling out of the Paris climate agreement, but at least he’s not being fooled by some of its various appendages.

    For anyone who wants to spend time on yet another IPCC report predicting future climate cataclysms, I recommend you read Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s latest book, Skin in the Game. He makes the distinction between science and scientism.

    The IPCC report is a clear ­example of the latter, with all its fancy concocted charts and tables pretending to be based on real ­science undertaken by disinterested scientists when it is nothing of the sort.

    According to this insightful ­author, “one can see that these academic-bureaucrats wanting to run our lives aren’t even rigorous. They can’t tell science from scientism — in fact, in their eyes scientism looks more scientific than real science”.

    In sum, “scientism is to science what a Ponzi scheme is to an ­investment”.

    We should all bear this in mind next time we see a report from the IPCC.

  205. jupes

    I want to apologize to those I appear to have offended. AJ too.

    Relax Elle.

    Nothing wrong with smearing Big Al. He is fair game on this blog.

    Your post has provided plenty of feedback which is what makes the Cat interesting.

  206. stackja

    Elle – I ignore most negative comments about AJ.

  207. Woolfe

    Seriously though I think Goodes is in charge of the welcome to country for any invading forces. Maybe he could do a dry run in Lakemba?

  208. Old School Conservative

    Elle, the limitations of written communication may have led me to misinterpret your post.
    Sorry.
    PS I appreciated your implication that my rugby coaching was similar in quality and outcome to AJ.
    I wish!

  209. wivenhoe

    Maybe he could do a dry run in Lakemba?

    Would be a competition to see which mob held the higher position on the victim totem pole.

  210. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Seriously though I think Goodes is in charge of the welcome to country for any invading forces. Maybe he could do a dry run in Lakemba?

    With instructions to get the best deal he can, when negotiating the surrender.

  211. OldOzzie

    And now for something different

    Oscar Wilde’s Catholicism = WSJ

    The church has always been a place where sinners are welcomed and offered refuge.

    Rome

    What might Oscar Wilde have made of the new exhibit meant to honor him as “one of the earliest forebears of gay liberation”? The Oscar Wilde Temple opened last week in a former Methodist chapel in South London, complete with an altar featuring a statue of the Irish playwright.

    Wilde’s own life and tastes, after all, were more complicated. When he arrived in Rome in 1900, he found himself attracted to both the Eternal City’s pagan past and its Catholic present, extolling the beauty of the young men he paid for even as he haunted the Vatican for a blessing from the pope. Six months later in Paris, on his deathbed, he was welcomed into the Catholic church.

    Wilde wasn’t unusual for his time. To today’s generations, Catholicism may be the Church of Intolerance. But in Wilde’s day, the church was still the Scarlet Woman, home for the disreputable and deplorable. In his play “A Woman of No Importance” the title character, who has a secret past—an illegitimate son—explains why she spends so much time in church.

    “Where else could I go?” she asks. “God’s house is the only house where sinners are made welcome.” Sin and grace in a broken world. How many who shared Wilde’s sexual attractions found similar refuge and equality at the altar rail of Rome?

    Wilde was no stranger to sexual scandal. Nor, for anyone familiar with its history, is the Catholic church. Today the face of scandal is Theodore McCarrick, the former cardinal accused of molesting an 11-year-old boy as well as regularly inviting seminarians to his bed.

    Notwithstanding its unpopularity, church teaching on homosexuality hasn’t fundamentally changed since St. Paul. What has changed is that the orthodoxy dominating civilization is no longer set by even a residually Judeo-Christian ethos.

    This new orthodoxy comes with a new enforcer, too. When it comes to rooting out heresy and dissent, what the Inquisition once accomplished with torture and dungeons today’s media does far more efficiently with relentless promotion of voices and ideas it wants amplified, and equally relentless neglect of voices and ideas it wants ignored. Mockery and contempt are reserved for anyone who won’t sign on.

    It isn’t without its contradictions. On the one hand, the keepers of the new sexual orthodoxy are rightly indignant at the lack of consent and exploitation inherent in the sexual abuses by priests, bishops and cardinals who preyed upon those to whom they were supposed to be fathers and shepherds. On the other hand, this same orthodoxy continues to play down that most of the abuse has been committed by men against other men and boys.

    Take former Cardinal McCarrick. We’re told “everyone knew” what “Uncle Ted” was up to. Yet knowledge of his behavior didn’t stop him from attaining the archbishopric of the nation’s capital, a cardinal’s hat and welcome in the highest and most fashionable circles.

    Even now, it’s illuminating to compare his treatment with the vitriol directed at John Nienstedt, who resigned in 2015 as archbishop of Minneapolis after prosecutors charged the archdiocese with failing to protect children from a sexually abusive priest. Archbishop Nienstedt has also been investigated for inappropriate sexual behavior, though nothing has been proved, no charges were ever filed, and he maintains his innocence.

    Certainly no one could claim that Archbishop Nienstedt’s handling of reports of sexual abuse in his diocese was anything but a disaster. And if credible proof emerges he himself was an abuser, by all means let him answer for it. Still, it’s hard not to notice that what really seems to distinguish Archbishop Nienstedt from former Cardinal McCarrick is that the former spoke out publicly for his church’s teaching by supporting a Minnesota ballot measure to ban same-sex marriage.

    In so doing, Archbishop Nienstedt challenged the prevailing secular orthodoxy in a way Cardinal McCarrick never did. Which may explain why until recently a media that otherwise delights in bringing down Catholic prelates was decidedly uninterested in investigating the many rumors that swirled around Cardinal McCarrick while he was still active in church life.

    It should go without saying that not every gay priest is a predator, that many are holy men, and that the church doesn’t need a witch hunt to root out anyone suspected of being gay. But when the main study on sex abuse by American clergy reports that 81% of victims were male—and largely postpubescent—how tenable is the proposition that homosexuality hasn’t a thing to do with priestly sex abuse?

    “I can resist everything but temptation,” Wilde once quipped. What might he have made of the new orthodoxy trying to impose itself on the church he ultimately called his own—and of pope, cardinals and bishops so plainly embarrassed by their own teaching?

  212. Farmer Gez

    Should imagine that a rural town somewhere, with a single police officer, would be overjoyed to have their very own Sudanese gang move to their town.

    Might keep them from fining my old mum for having a tyre over the white line in the parking bays.

  213. OldOzzie

    And now for something different

    Oscar Wilde’s Catholicism

    The church has always been a place where sinners are welcomed and offered refuge.

    Rome

    What might Oscar Wilde have made of the new exhibit meant to honor him as “one of the earliest forebears of gay liberation”? The Oscar Wilde Temple opened last week in a former Methodist chapel in South London, complete with an altar featuring a statue of the Irish playwright.

    Wilde’s own life and tastes, after all, were more complicated. When he arrived in Rome in 1900, he found himself attracted to both the Eternal City’s pagan past and its Catholic present, extolling the beauty of the young men he paid for even as he haunted the Vatican for a blessing from the pope. Six months later in Paris, on his deathbed, he was welcomed into the Catholic church.

    Wilde wasn’t unusual for his time. To today’s generations, Catholicism may be the Church of Intolerance. But in Wilde’s day, the church was still the Scarlet Woman, home for the disreputable and deplorable. In his play “A Woman of No Importance” the title character, who has a secret past—an illegitimate son—explains why she spends so much time in church.

    “Where else could I go?” she asks. “God’s house is the only house where sinners are made welcome.” Sin and grace in a broken world. How many who shared Wilde’s sexual attractions found similar refuge and equality at the altar rail of Rome?

    Wilde was no stranger to sexual scandal. Nor, for anyone familiar with its history, is the Catholic church. Today the face of scandal is Theodore McCarrick, the former cardinal accused of m#lesting an 11-year-old boy as well as regularly inviting seminarians to his bed.

    Notwithstanding its unpopularity, church teaching on h#mosexuality hasn’t fundamentally changed since St. Paul. What has changed is that the orthodoxy dominating civilization is no longer set by even a residually Judeo-Christian ethos.

    This new orthodoxy comes with a new enforcer, too. When it comes to rooting out heresy and dissent, what the Inquisition once accomplished with torture and dungeons today’s media does far more efficiently with relentless promotion of voices and ideas it wants amplified, and equally relentless neglect of voices and ideas it wants ignored. Mockery and contempt are reserved for anyone who won’t sign on.

    It isn’t without its contradictions. On the one hand, the keepers of the new sexual orthodoxy are rightly indignant at the lack of consent and exploitation inherent in the sexual abuses by priests, bishops and cardinals who preyed upon those to whom they were supposed to be fathers and shepherds. On the other hand, this same orthodoxy continues to play down that most of the abuse has been committed by men against other men and boys.

    Take former Cardinal McCarrick. We’re told “everyone knew” what “Uncle Ted” was up to. Yet knowledge of his behavior didn’t stop him from attaining the archbishopric of the nation’s capital, a cardinal’s hat and welcome in the highest and most fashionable circles.

    Even now, it’s illuminating to compare his treatment with the vitriol directed at John Nienstedt, who resigned in 2015 as archbishop of Minneapolis after prosecutors charged the archdiocese with failing to protect children from a sexually abusive priest. Archbishop Nienstedt has also been investigated for inappropriate sexual behavior, though nothing has been proved, no charges were ever filed, and he maintains his innocence.

    Certainly no one could claim that Archbishop Nienstedt’s handling of reports of sexual abuse in his diocese was anything but a disaster. And if credible proof emerges he himself was an abuser, by all means let him answer for it. Still, it’s hard not to notice that what really seems to distinguish Archbishop Nienstedt from former Cardinal McCarrick is that the former spoke out publicly for his church’s teaching by supporting a Minnesota ballot measure to ban same-sex marriage.

    In so doing, Archbishop Nienstedt challenged the prevailing secular orthodoxy in a way Cardinal McCarrick never did. Which may explain why until recently a media that otherwise delights in bringing down Catholic prelates was decidedly uninterested in investigating the many rumors that swirled around Cardinal McCarrick while he was still active in church life.

    It should go without saying that not every gay priest is a predator, that many are holy men, and that the church doesn’t need a witch hunt to root out anyone suspected of being gay. But when the main study on sex abuse by American clergy reports that 81% of victims were male—and largely postpubescent—how tenable is the proposition that h#mosexuality hasn’t a thing to do with priestly sex abuse?

    “I can resist everything but temptation,” Wilde once quipped. What might he have made of the new orthodoxy trying to impose itself on the church he ultimately called his own—and of pope, cardinals and bishops so plainly embarrassed by their own teaching?

  214. OldOzzie

    And now for something different

    Oscar Wilde’s Catholicism

    The church has always been a place where sinners are welcomed and offered refuge.

    Rome


    What might Oscar Wilde have made of the new exhibit meant to honor him as “one of the earliest forebears of g#y liberation”? The Oscar Wilde Temple opened last week in a former Methodist chapel in South London, complete with an altar featuring a statue of the Irish playwright.

    Wilde’s own life and tastes, after all, were more complicated. When he arrived in Rome in 1900, he found himself attracted to both the Eternal City’s pagan past and its Catholic present, extolling the beauty of the young men he paid for even as he haunted the Vatican for a blessing from the pope. Six months later in Paris, on his deathbed, he was welcomed into the Catholic church.

    Wilde wasn’t unusual for his time. To today’s generations, Catholicism may be the Church of Intolerance. But in Wilde’s day, the church was still the Scarlet Woman, home for the disreputable and deplorable. In his play “A Woman of No Importance” the title character, who has a secret past—an illegitimate son—explains why she spends so much time in church.

    “Where else could I go?” she asks. “God’s house is the only house where sinners are made welcome.” Sin and grace in a broken world. How many who shared Wilde’s sexual attractions found similar refuge and equality at the altar rail of Rome?

    Wilde was no stranger to sexual scandal. Nor, for anyone familiar with its history, is the Catholic church. Today the face of scandal is Theodore McCarrick, the former cardinal accused of m#lesting an 11-year-old boy as well as regularly inviting seminarians to his bed.

    Notwithstanding its unpopularity, church teaching on h#mosexuality hasn’t fundamentally changed since St. Paul. What has changed is that the orthodoxy dominating civilization is no longer set by even a residually Judeo-Christian ethos.

    This new orthodoxy comes with a new enforcer, too. When it comes to rooting out heresy and dissent, what the Inquisition once accomplished with torture and dungeons today’s media does far more efficiently with relentless promotion of voices and ideas it wants amplified, and equally relentless neglect of voices and ideas it wants ignored. Mockery and contempt are reserved for anyone who won’t sign on.

    It isn’t without its contradictions. On the one hand, the keepers of the new sexual orthodoxy are rightly indignant at the lack of consent and exploitation inherent in the sexual abuses by priests, bishops and cardinals who preyed upon those to whom they were supposed to be fathers and shepherds. On the other hand, this same orthodoxy continues to play down that most of the abuse has been committed by men against other men and boys.

    Take former Cardinal McCarrick. We’re told “everyone knew” what “Uncle Ted” was up to. Yet knowledge of his behavior didn’t stop him from attaining the archbishopric of the nation’s capital, a cardinal’s hat and welcome in the highest and most fashionable circles.

    Even now, it’s illuminating to compare his treatment with the vitriol directed at John Nienstedt, who resigned in 2015 as archbishop of Minneapolis after prosecutors charged the archdiocese with failing to protect children from a sexually abusive priest. Archbishop Nienstedt has also been investigated for inappropriate sexual behavior, though nothing has been proved, no charges were ever filed, and he maintains his innocence.

    Certainly no one could claim that Archbishop Nienstedt’s handling of reports of sexual abuse in his diocese was anything but a disaster. And if credible proof emerges he himself was an abuser, by all means let him answer for it. Still, it’s hard not to notice that what really seems to distinguish Archbishop Nienstedt from former Cardinal McCarrick is that the former spoke out publicly for his church’s teaching by supporting a Minnesota ballot measure to ban same-sex marriage.

    In so doing, Archbishop Nienstedt challenged the prevailing secular orthodoxy in a way Cardinal McCarrick never did. Which may explain why until recently a media that otherwise delights in bringing down Catholic prelates was decidedly uninterested in investigating the many rumors that swirled around Cardinal McCarrick while he was still active in church life.

    It should go without saying that not every g#y priest is a predator, that many are holy men, and that the church doesn’t need a witch hunt to root out anyone suspected of being g#y. But when the main study on sex abuse by American clergy reports that 81% of victims were male—and largely postp#bescent—how tenable is the proposition that h#mosexuality hasn’t a thing to do with priestly s#x abuse?

    “I can resist everything but temptation,” Wilde once quipped. What might he have made of the new orthodoxy trying to impose itself on the church he ultimately called his own—and of pope, cardinals and bishops so plainly embarrassed by their own teaching?

  215. DrBeauGan

    The stuff about AJ goes to character and values. As I tried to explain to Calli, this has a bearing on whether or not to buy isolated statements, but is irrelevant to arguments which stand or fall on their own. Anyway, is sexuality is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his character.

    I have heard both good and very bad arguments from him. To be fair, even the bad ones are well expressed.

  216. struth

    IPCC
    International Pack of Communist C..nts.

    If a so called scientist is offering up political advice disguised as science (what we need to do to stop climate change) what else would he offer up as science?

    WTF does Pyne know about defence for that matter ?

    He’s been sitting on it for many years.

  217. DrBeauGan

    My last comment got completely ignored. Nothing happened to it at all.

  218. Beertruk

    That ABC piece on East Germany is bizarre.
    Probably no mention of teh Stasi either.

  219. OldOzzie

    Sorry about the triple post – it disappeared into the Ether and I thought I was using Verboten Words

    I never know when that happens whether or not the post will appear

  220. Boambee John

    The good thing this time is that this group of credulous scientists who are part of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is telling us that we are so close to a tipping point that there will be no point issuing any more warnings. That will be a ­relief.

    But they will still keep issuing them, with deadlines sliding to the right.

    Remember under Abbott, the CSIRO was told to disband the Global Alarmism, sorry, Atmospheric Science Division, on the grounds that “the science is in”, and we should focus on adaptation. The screams were epic.

  221. JC

    stackja
    #2835285, posted on October 9, 2018 at 2:39 pm

    Elle – I ignore most negative comments about AJ.

    The attempted take-down of the two QLD brothers was wonderful to watch. Sadly though he was successfully sued and shown to be a defaming c..t. The attempts to ban fracking has also been superbly handled too.

    You imbecile. You texting imbecile.

  222. Confused Old Misfit

    the government, in its wisdom, has mandated that x% of defence contracts go to indigenous suppliers

    Are we to have the 51/64th Nulla Nulla Battalion? After all these years?

  223. Boambee John

    Woolfe
    #2835286, posted on October 9, 2018 at 2:39 pm
    Seriously though I think Goodes is in charge of the welcome to country for any invading forces. Maybe he could do a dry run in Lakemba?

    Test pattern has denied that Welcome to Country was invented by Ernie Dingo; tp, iirc, suggested that the tradition involved rubbing armpit sweat on the visitor so that others would know said visitor was acceptable.

    I see a great future for the test pattern WtC. However, the sweat should be rubbed only on the leaders of the visiting group, so as not to be too demanding on the welcomer.

    Might reduce tbe numbers of such farces drastically!

  224. Beertruk

    Beer T – farms don’t attract the same interest as shares. Yet are more important.
    After 50 plus years he has had enough. Sick of the drought cycle and having to put down stock when they get stuck in dams or injured. He had to put down a horse the other week when dickheads had cut a fence to make things easier for them do do what they were doing but didn’t repair it when they were finished. I was at his place at the time and asked if he needed some help after he came back to get his rifle, but he said ‘no, you will only throw up if you see it.’ He just wants out.

  225. Top Ender

    A plethora of Oscar Wildes.

    Is this what is known as wilding?

    Apparently not:

    wilding1
    ˈwʌɪldɪŋ/Submit
    noun INFORMAL•US
    the activity by a gang of youths of going on a protracted and violent rampage in a public place, attacking or mugging people at random.
    “prison put halt to his wilding”

  226. Makka

    Should imagine that a rural town somewhere, with a single police officer, would be overjoyed to have their very own Sudanese gang move to their town.

    Scummo doing his level best sleight of hand, nothing up my sleeve, abracadabra and hey presto! Immigration solution! Notably though it still complies fully with UNiparty policy; the population ponzi MUST continue. Suck it up , sheeple.

  227. JC

    This is truly extraordinary.

    C.L.
    #2835080, posted on October 9, 2018 at 10:45 am

    Just posted at ABC Online … the end of East Germany was a travesty against a wonderful country.

    The biggest bunch of arseholes outside of North Korea. These are the scum who seamlessly slipped from Nazism to communism without a care in the world and to a large extent they were the philosophical guardians of communism greatly influencing the Soviet Union and egging the Russians on.
    Our ABC suggests they were misunderstood. FMD.

  228. Beertruk

    the government, in its wisdom, has mandated that x% of defence contracts go to indigenous suppliers

    Are they going to contract, supply and maintain boomerangs for the RAAF, spears and nulla nullas for the ARA and bark and dugout cannoes for the RAN? They might have the medical and the chaplains covered with direct entry for the kurdaitcha man. Could be a problem with the gender thing because I think it was only the men that could do the kurdaitcha man job.

  229. Death Giraffe

    When you have to build a wall and shoot people to stop them leaving, your country is shit.
    And that is the system they want globally.

  230. JC

    US polling is really hard to get a handle on.

    We keep getting inundated with stories that the house of Reps is gone to the D’rats. Last night, I was reading a piece suggesting the D’rats were ahead in 69 seats considered battleground by margins of 4%.

    The drift about the senate though seems to be much different. In fact, there’s been many pieces written how the GOP could increase its lead in the senate.

    Sure, I know a large number of GOP reps are retiring and this supposed to make the house vulnerable to a D’rat takeover. I’m not so sure, but that’s how it reads. Also, the D’rats are supposedly vulnerable in the senate for the same reason. However there’s a few seats where the D’rats hold incumbency and these are now very vulnerable to a GOP take.

    Other bullshit I’ve been reading was that Cruz was/is on a knife edge fight for his seat, but a poll I saw last night shows Cruz will romp it in.

  231. JC

    Death Giraffe
    #2835320, posted on October 9, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    When you have to build a wall and shoot people to stop them leaving, your country is shit.
    And that is the system they want globally.

    Theoretically you won’t need a wall then.

  232. JC

    stackja
    #2835316, posted on October 9, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    Texting. Texting.

    You should be deported.

  233. John of Mel

    Maybe he could do a dry run in Lakemba?

    Too dangerous. Potentially might be misinterpreted by the locals as the real thing.

  234. Lysander

    Just popping by…

    I see their ABC are now in favour of building walls?

    #Trump

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