Monday Forum: October 8, 2018

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  1. jupes

    Mark Steyn nails it again.

    Ms Ford was not a “credible” witness. Rather the opposite, in fact. Read the report by Rachel Mitchell, the Deputy County Attorney brought in to question the accuser so that the GOP members of the Judiciary Committee wouldn’t look all mean and white and old and Republican. Unlike Trump, Ms Mitchell is benign, pleasant and unthreatening, but her conclusions are devastating to Ms Ford:

    In the legal context, here is my bottom line: a ‘he said, she said’ case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that.

    It goes on from there. Ms Mitchell seems very nice and reasonable, and, for that very reason, she’s already forgotten and not one in a hundred thousand Americans has read her report. To defer to Ms Ford’s frankly incredible “credibility” is to do what Republicans always do – play defense, on terms framed by their opponents, and on the tiny cramped bit of turf permitted by the media. The President understands instinctively that that’s a recipe for losing.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Aged care royal commissioners chosen, terms of reference outlined

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    Former Western Australian Director of Public Prosecutions and supreme court judge Joseph McGrath, and former Australian Public Service commissioner and Medicare chief Lynelle Briggs will preside over the Morrison government’s royal commission into aged care.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced the appointment of the commissioners this afternoon, thanking more than 5100 Australians who have made submissions regarding the terms of reference for the inquiry which was announced last month.

    “Both these individuals have had an enormous amount of experience in the Australian public service throughout their careers in their respective fields and I am grateful they have taken up the invitation to undertake this very important task,” Mr Morrison said

    “They will need to determine the full extent of the problems in aged care and to understand how we can meet the challenges and the opportunities of delivering aged care services now and into the future.

    From the Oz.

  3. H B Bear

    The only way to get a handle on US polling is to wait for mUnty to come bounding in bouncing in like a puppy and then you know the GOP are home.

  4. zyconoclast

    After pro-family campaign, GA library drops drag queen storytime for kids

    October 8, 2018 (MassResistance) – Our Georgia MassResistance chapter has stopped a “Drag Queen Story Hour” in one of the most pro-gay areas of the South. And more are being targeted as outraged parents contact us for help.

  5. stackja

    Just Cranky. Is weird.

  6. Delta A

    Chris Kenny takes it up to the alarmists. From The $Oz:

    Climate change activists, it’s time to kill your pets.

    Surely it is time for the climate activists to kill their pets. Invigorated by the latest alarmism from the UN’s IPCC, they are at it again, advocating a range of economically damaging policies to save the planet.

    We should shut down the coal industry, they say. Never mind it is about to reclaim its mantle as our highest export earner, never mind the tens of thousands of people that would lose their jobs, the communities that would be ruined and the millions of people overseas who would be denied energy and prosperity.

    We should switch to renewable energy, they say. Never mind the pensioners and low income families who cannot afford their electricity bills and go to bed early to stay warm.

    We should use different light globes, they say, and switch all our lights off for an hour of virtue-signalling once a year.

    Many of these well-to-do activists are indulging their post-material concerns, perhaps some feel a little guilty about their prosperity.

    But they seem all too keen to make the climate someone else’s problem. They can afford their power bills and they like parading their sanctimony so why should they care about a family huddled around a kerosene heater or a village in India waiting for reliable electricity or jobs from a new factory.

    This is why the activists always talk about their cataclysmic predictions in specific and personal terms, you know the stuff; islands will disappear, climate refugees will wander the earth, beachfront homes will disappear, cyclones, floods and droughts will swamp us all.

    But the policy solutions are always made to sound harmless. We just “put a price on carbon” and switch to renewable energy (which they claim is cheaper even while they champion its subsidies) and take new green jobs and everything will be rosy.

    Vegetarianism a virtue

    The latest report from the IPCC also suggests we eat less meat to make the planet more sustainable. Vegetarianism is seen as a virtue (despite the known methane emission characteristics of tabouli).

    The trouble is we have heard all this before. Every report cites the next decade as a “tipping point” or the last chance for action. Then, after the predictions of the climate models again fail to materialise, they say the same thing about the next decade. It is like a boy crying wolf or President Obama drawing a red line — it inspires more complacency than action.

    So if the climate activists really want to awaken us to the threat of global warming they should start executing their pets. After all, we have read about how herds of cattle and mobs of sheep contribute to the carbon emissions problem; hence the calls to eschew meat.

    A range of studies have examined the carbon pawprints of pets. Some claim the impact of an average dog on the climate is equivalent to that of a car. A study by UCLA scientist Gregory Okin was published last year by the Public Library of Science quantifying the emissions from dogs and cats in the US at 64 million tonnes of CO2 equivalent methane and nitrous oxide. “Reducing the rate of dog and cat ownership, perhaps in favour of other pets that offer similar health and emotional benefits would considerably reduce these impacts,” Okin said. The paper raised concerns about how this climate impact would escalate as developing nations started to increase their rates of pet ownership.

    Unlike sheep and cattle, pets don’t produce food or sustenance; they are just there for the indulgence of humans. So I reckon they should be the first thing sacrificed to save the planet.

    Think of all the carbon emissions saved when fewer animals are bred and killed to feed our cats and dogs, fewer factories manufacture their meals and fewer trucks transport their tinned food.

    Besides, if we are going to pay even more for our electricity, many of us won’t be able to afford pet food. If the climate activists were really serious, they would stop pretending that they can save the planet without hurting anyone.

    These activists fly around the world from conferences to media events, drumming up support from millionaire entertainers who fly around the world in their private jets. Some of the leading activists have multiple houses, multiple vehicles and multiple pets and yet they want us to suffer from steep power prices and give up our Sunday roasts. When they put down their pets, then we’ll know they’re serious.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2835326, posted on October 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Mark Steyn nails it again.

    Ms Ford was not a “credible” witness.

    I thought that was extremely pissweak of the GOP … to refer to the FBI investigation into Frord as “an investigation of the credible claims”.
    Sure, it was slightly more believable than sleazy porn lawyers fairytales, which imploded within 24 hours, but not “credible” by a long stretch.
    They could have simply said “the FBI was investigating Frord’s claims”.
    They are obviously shit-scared of the wymminses movement and I thought the “credible” word was a pre-cursor to them buckling … again.

  8. JC

    It’s really strange, Bear. On the one hand the GOP sounds like it could actually do well in the Senate, while being blue waved in the House. It could happen, but just doesn’t gel right.

  9. Speedbox

    Just posted at ABC Online … the end of East Germany was a travesty against a wonderful country.

    Incredible.

    In Russia, there is a small percentage of the population that wish for the return of USSR communism. Almost exclusively, those in favor of the reprise are (now) very elderly and have been unable to cope with the rising costs of living under the current system. Many prematurely lost their previously secure jobs and have been living a hand-to-mouth existence ever since. They seek a return to the old ways where ‘the State’ provided everything if you were a good communist. For everybody else in modern Russia, the idea of a return to the ways of the former USSR is a bad joke.

    It is astonishing to see young people, those who have never lived under the oppressive communist rule, say that the former East German ways were better. East Germany was a shi*hole with food shortages common, enforced work mandatory, dissent not permitted, ‘disappearances’ not uncommon, travel almost impossible, neighbor spying on neighbor……the list goes on.

  10. Elle

    Elle, the limitations of written communication may have led me to misinterpret your post.
    Sorry.
    PS I appreciated your implication that my rugby coaching was similar in quality and outcome to AJ.
    I wish!

    No worries, OSC. I’m not too good at this faceless communication with people. Tend to get myself in a pickle. Perfer face to face – real time convos. Unfortunately, I’m surrounded by mostly leftists in ‘real life’ and come to places like here and Blair to mix with like minded peeps, even if it’s kinda like a men’s shed here on the open fred. Please! Don’t get me wrong. I love to see blokes being blokes – good old fashioned, down to earth Aussie blokes. You all look like a young Crocodile Dundee to me. 🙂

  11. Elle

    With big beautiful economic, libertarian and conservative brains.

  12. JC

    Rones

    There’s a new thread at the Ronery Blog. See what you think. If you would like to make changes go right ahead and explain what and why. The blog tries to be as interactive and responsive as possible so your input isn’t just desired, but also encouraged.

  13. Farmer Gez

    Good weather for fly strike in sheep at the moment.
    What’s the effect on CO2 levels from millions of maggots?
    Now there’s a study begging to be done.

  14. stackja

    ALP unhappy with solutions to RGR problems.

  15. Mark from Melbourne

    .
    #2835234, posted on October 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    Hold out until 2030 and we can make (warmies) them go away forever.

    Possibly the most optimistic comment ever posted at the Cat.

  16. stackja

    1940s migrants went where they were told by ALP.

  17. wivenhoe

    investigation of the credible claims”.

    That was probably a deliberate move, If They only have to investigate the credible claims(of which there were none), then the investigation will be concluded in a day.

  18. JC

    Yes speedboox, but East Germany had superb free medical care, just like Cuba where the ambulance service is cutting edge.

  19. stackja

    LL – ‘Credible’ actual quote or just MSM?

  20. H B Bear

    Kenny should go further with A Modest Proposal that climate catastrophists kill and eat their children.

  21. Woolfe

    Speaking of ambulances a friend took ill in a City Beach restaurant near Perth on Sunday and we waited nearly 30 minutes for an ambulance.

  22. Whalehunt fun

    Why should climate catastrophists get all the soylent green? Everyone is entitlted to a share of their progeny.

  23. Snoopy

    the government, in its wisdom, has mandated that x% of defence contracts go to indigenous suppliers

    The scandal is that to be an indigenous supplier an entity requires just a minimum of 50% indigeous ownership. As for ‘Indigenous’, a little dab’ll do ya.

  24. wivenhoe

    a little dab’ll do ya.

    Ahhh, the old Brylcream indigenous.

  25. Delta A

    Climate change activists, it’s time to kill your pets.

    The comments are funny, apart from the occasional loon spouting doom and gloom.

    (Is that our Bear hinting at malice to the neighbour’s cat?)

  26. H B Bear

    (Is that our Bear hinting at malice to the neighbour’s cat?)

    Nope. Cats should be disposed of humanely in the freezer.

  27. Speedbox

    Yes speedboox, but East Germany had superb free medical care…….

    Good photo JC.

    A few years ago whilst in smallish Russian town, I needed to see a doctor. So, my wife and I attend the local clinic and there was a queue of patients. My wife (who is Russian) headed straight to the top of the queue and spoke to the receptionist.

    A few moments later, we are in the Doctor’s consulting room explaining the symptoms.

    Long story short, because we had hard currency (US$), we ‘out-ranked’ the other patients and were seen as a priority. Nothing to do with the severity of my illness (which was minor), it was all about the US$ we could pay.

    Doctor’s salaries in Russia are still pitiful and any opportunity to grab some hard currency is highly sought after.

  28. stackja

    Telegraph story – man wrestles shark. Shark bites man.

  29. cohenite

    Seems incredible when someone breaks into your home assaults you, steals from you and when you and your boyfriend give chase and in the ensuing tussle the home invader is killed, you’re charged with murder.

  30. stackja

    cohenite – jury to decide?

  31. JC

    Cronkers

    How could she be charged with murder when she had no control of what her boyfriend was doing? It doesn’t sound possible.

  32. Makka

    A few years ago whilst in smallish Russian town, I needed to see a doctor.

    Huge difference in medical/hospital facilities in Russia. The big fancy US and Euro run facilities in Moscow and St Pete’s are state of the art and cost a bomb if not insured.

    Those for the masses in major regional cities are appalling and decrepit. I had to visit one for a chest x-ray as part of the visa process. This contraption looked like something you would find in Chernobyl, a Frankenstein’s lab type machine that looked like it would fry you. I refused it so the Co. paid off our KGB patron to do the needful with the paperwork. There’s always a way around something in Russia.

  33. H B Bear

    Seems incredible when someone breaks into your home assaults you, steals from you and when you and your boyfriend give chase and in the ensuing tussle the home invader is killed, you’re charged with murder.

    Not if you understand the law. If he skewered him inside the home it would probably be a different story.

  34. Makka

    A few years ago whilst in smallish Russian town, I needed to see a doctor.

    Huge difference in medical/hospital facilities in Russia. The big fancy US and Euro run facilities in Moscow and St Pete’s are state of the art and cost a bomb if not insured.

    Those for the masses in major regional cities are appalling and decrepit. I had to visit one for a chest x-ray as part of the visa process. This contraption looked like something you would find in Chernobyl, a Frankenstein’s lab type machine that looked like it would fry you. I refused it so the Co. paid off our KGB patron to do the needful with the paperwork. There’s always a way around something in Russia.

  35. Steve trickler

    Lisbon’s famous Tram 28.

    This trams route goes into tight places, and takes the paint off cars. You just know that ending must be common.

    Public transport that rivals amusement park rides. And cheaper, no doubt.

    This was posted, Feb, 2018.



  36. notafan

    This trams route goes into tight places, and takes the paint off cars. You just know that ending must be common.

    Caught it many times

    It might take the paint off cars but my experience is that cars routinely park in places they ought not and hold the trams up, seen three trams waiting for the driver’s return, occupational hazard.

    The tram drivers spend a lot of time dinging their bells at errant drivers.

    Lisbon’s funiculars/cable cars are also great fun.

  37. John Constantine

    Crutched a mob of late lambing ewes yesterday, ahead of the rain predictions. Bit hard to get shearers this time of year at short notice.

    Into town for the ram sedative injections today, a bit of acepromazine injected in them first and I am as good a ram shearer as I ever was.

  38. Neil

    “Doctor’s salaries in Russia are still pitiful and any opportunity to grab some hard currency is highly sought after.”

    Tell me about it. I used to be involved in research. The group I was in had 10 people. I was the only person born in Australia. When a Eastern European finishes their PhD they all try and get jobs in English speaking countries not because they are unemployed but because the pay is much better overseas. Rather than fight for better pay and working conditions they run away from their problems.

    The White Australia policy was not as racist as people think. Unions were worried about Chinese workers because they would work for lower wages and drive the wages of everyone else down. We should have a Eastern European policy that bans them. I am sure that is why the Poms left the EU. When they arrive they are willing to work for half wages or even nothing until someone leaves. It is legal. Research is contract work. They write a contract so you can legally be in the lab and then pay you what they can find

  39. JC

    Neil

    There are about 1 million Australians working overseas. What should happen to those fuckers? Would you demand their return or just turn a blind eye?

  40. Neil

    Are they swamping the market? I would not agree with them going overseas if they were. What gets me is that the Eastern Europeans are not unemployed. They just don’t like the salary they get paid. plus I don’t get on with them.

    But when I had a job name me any profession where there is only one native born in a group of 10?

  41. cohenite

    Not if you understand the law. If he skewered him inside the home it would probably be a different story.

    The self defence rights in the Criminal Code 1900, s.418 onwards are not limited to the home but you can’t kill someone defending property or trespass as per s.420.

  42. DrBeauGan

    plus I don’t get on with them.

    You don’t get on with JC either. And I suspect you wouldn’t get on with me.

  43. .

    The White Australia policy was not as racist as people think.

    Great, despite the Putin worship, we have people that want to ban Slavs from coming to Australia.

    Is there nothing we can ask to be banned?

  44. rickw

    Hugo Keith, QC, acting for the Met, said: “It may seem obvious that had you not locked the car and had you go out, you would have presented yourself as a further target?”

    This is from the same fuckers that insist that the British People are disarmed. At least the arsehole could have had the courage of his convictions and gone out there in his short sleeve shirt and been murdered like everyone else.

  45. jupes

    Finch kicking a bit of Paki arse.

    We’ll win this test.

  46. Neil

    “Is there nothing we can ask to be banned?”

    Would you really like to see the Australian cricket team composed of foreign born players. I never really liked it when England had so many South Africans in their side.

    I worked with American and German researchers and they never bothered me. But the Eastern Europeans are here for one reason only – money

  47. H B Bear

    I’d be happy to run self defense inside the home against someone armed with a replica gun. Not gonna fly if you’ve chased them into the street and chopped them with a samurai sword.

  48. jupes

    The White Australia policy was not as racist as people think.

    The WAP was a far more sensible policy than the suicidal immigration policy we are running with at the minute.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Into town for the ram sedative injections today, a bit of acepromazine injected in them first and I am as good a ram shearer as I ever was.

    Back in the day, if you wanted to buy ram sedative from the local vet, you had to turn up with an actual ram to prove your bona fides……..

  50. DrBeauGan

    I don’t mind people being racist. . I’m not myself, but I can understand people wanting to be surrounded by people like themselves. Bit boring, but there you are.

    I’m very culturalist though. Even so, I don’t mind a certain number of people from inferior cultures (all of them) coming to Oz as long as they do whatever it takes to absorb our culture. It’s the whackos who believe their lousy, moth-eaten cultures are superior I’d throw out or never let in.

  51. rickw

    Should imagine that a rural town somewhere, with a single police officer, would be overjoyed to have their very own Sudanese gang move to their town.

    Might keep them from fining my old mum for having a tyre over the white line in the parking bays.

    Nope, the more petty policing options at plod’s disposal, the less real policing they will do. Appearing to be diligent and busy whilst being perfectly safe.

  52. DrBeauGan

    That includes cultural Marxists who are useless. I’d deport them to somewhere their philosophy has been tried. Venezuela perhaps.

  53. Death Giraffe

    There are about 1 million Australians working overseas. What should happen to those fuckers?

    ..
    They should come home, rebuild the country and vote conservative.

  54. .

    But the Eastern Europeans are here for one reason only – money

    Which is why most people actually work.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    Back in the day, if you wanted to buy ram sedative from the local vet, you had to turn up with an actual ram to prove your bona fides……..

    That gets you a song, Zulu!

  56. Makka

    Even so, I don’t mind a certain number of people from inferior cultures (all of them) coming to Oz as long as they do whatever it takes to absorb our culture.

    That’s just one aspect. Many foreigners are here as a result of rorting our duplicitous visa system. The result being wages being undermined as this report indicates. Our whole visa system is a scam, a con. It’s purpose is to support the population ponzi with herds of Asians while trying to convince the locals the Govt has a handle on who comes here to get work. It’s all a con.

    There are no “skill shortages” in Australia to speak of. That doesn’t stop our UNiparty Govt importing hundreds of thousands of workers annually.

    https://www.watoday.com.au/business/workplace/rampant-underpayment-of-workers-revealed-in-western-sydney-20180315-p4z4ij.html

  57. rickw

    They should come home, rebuild the country and vote conservative.

    I’m working on leaving.

    Mass migration has ensured that actual Australians don’t have the numbers in anything less than a shooting based adjustment of the countries direction.

  58. JC

    It’s the whackos who believe their lousy, moth-eaten cultures are superior I’d throw out or never let in.

    I think it’s all bravado. They realize they’re from a shithole and no amount of hallucinating will change that.

    jupes
    #2835390, posted on October 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    The White Australia policy was not as racist as people think.

    The WAP was a far more sensible policy than the suicidal immigration policy we are running with at the minute.

    Here’s the problem. Taking in Euroweenies will raise the Greens vote. Weenies vote greens and Liars Party to a lessor extent. It’s a version of the California problem infecting the surrounding states. Californians leave Cal and vote the same way where they settle. They’re fucking arseholes.

  59. Myrddin Seren

    Into town for the ram sedative injections today, a bit of acepromazine injected in them first……….. and I am as good a ram shearer as I ever was.

    I can’t help but feeling this story has been edited for family viewing hour.

    See if you can fill in the blanks……

  60. OldOzzie

    So if the climate activists really want to awaken us to the threat of global warming they should start executing their pets.

    Thanks Chris Kenny,

    I go slightly further than that, whenever I am confronted by a Global Warmist braying about Humnans destroying the Planet, I ask then when are they going to committ Seppuku the formal ritual form of harakiri, to stop polluting the Planet – they usually back off at this point, where I tell them that when they do I “Might” believe, but I would definitely get on with enjoying Life.

  61. JC

    There are no “skill shortages” in Australia to speak of.

    But there were in the Sahara and there’s way only you to choose from the 1 billion plus Africans. That’s totally believable.

    Dude, Achmed, you should be the last fucking person here discussing immigration restrictions, you hypocritical oaf. It’s just another example of your Kinship Economics theory, which I’m sure is a contender for the economics prize somewhere down the track.

    I’m not arguing validity of the argument. I’m making the point that you have absolutely no business entering this discussion. STFU and go dig that hole… which is what they are paying you for …. not entering blog discussions on the merits of immigration. Don’t annoy people.

  62. Neil

    “But the Eastern Europeans are here for one reason only – money
    Which is why most people actually work.”

    People in this country fought for a living wage. They should stay home and do the same thing. Like I said could you support an Australian cricket team where 9 of the 11 were flown in?

    Most of the 30,000 people/month the USA is getting crossing the Rio Grande are going for money. They are not refugees. But Russia is the biggest nation on earth with more natural resources than anybody. If they cannot pay their workers a decent wage there is something wrong

  63. JC

    People in this country fought for a living wage.

    Living wage.. LOl… How ACTU circa 1983. Doofus, no one owes you a wage, much less a living one just because you’re an Astryan.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I can’t help but feeling this story has been edited for family viewing hour.

    See if you can fill in the blanks……

    There’s nothing underhand going on – it’s common practice to tranquilize rams before shearing, in fact I’ve seen contractors refuse to shear untranquilized rams.

  65. DrBeauGan

    But Russia is the biggest nation on earth with more natural resources than anybody. If they cannot pay their workers a decent wage there is something wrong

    Yes. They tried communism and are still recovering.

  66. ZK2A;

    Should imagine that a rural town somewhere, with a single police officer, would be overjoyed to have their very own Sudanese gang move to their town.

    I know of two towns where on hearing of the effort to relocate the Sons of Sudan with the connivance of the Health authorities who could see the welfare jobs coming up, the local copper/s had a chat to some of the locals and certain facts were made known. Something about freshwater yabbies, IIRC.

  67. .

    Never thought I’d see the harvester decision defended here.

    Sure, everyone deserves a job that can pay for a wife and two kids comfortably.

    Really?

    Now…I did not know millennials who cannot save and want everything handed to them were arguing the case back in 1907, but there you go.

  68. Delta A

    Old Ozzie, this in the comments from an hysterical AGW believer:

    Contraception! People are pollution. Do not breed.

    When she removes herself from the doomed landscape I might take her seriously… or not.

  69. JC

    Never thought I’d see the harvester decision defended here.

    It’s absolutely fucking incredible, isn’t it. We’re seeing Kinship Economics, “Scargillian” Economics, Defence of the Harvester case. It’s like a parallel universe back to the 70s and 80s.

  70. Death Giraffe

    Living wage.. LOl… How ACTU circa 1983. Doofus, no one owes you a wage, much less a living one just because you’re an Astryan.

    ..
    No.
    But if the 1% of the 1% keep on hollowing out the middle and working classes, what will be left is them in a handful of fancy inner suburbs surounded by 30 million very, very poor and angry foriegners.
    Good luck.

  71. DrBeauGan

    Contraception! People are pollution. Do not breed.

    Tell it to the Africans. Westerners are already following that advice.

  72. jupes

    Taking in Euroweenies will raise the Greens vote. Weenies vote greens and Liars Party to a lessor extent.

    I aren’t advocating for the WAP to be reintroduced, I just make the point that it is better than the current policy. What we need is a discriminatory immigration policy that puts the national interest first.

    I would ban Muslims and tribal Africans for a start. As for Euroweenies, they would have to be carefully screened to ban lefties and other reprobates but I’m sure we could do it if we really wanted to.

  73. JC

    And I love the “People in this country fought for a living wage. “

    There’s now a medal for courage and valor for all those poor souls who have fought for the living wage. Thousands died for it.

    Fucking incredible shit posted here these days.

  74. Neil

    People in this country did fight for a living wage and the Eastern European professionals do not get it so they all want to come here.

    Immigration is in general good for Australia. If it was not for the Greeks and Italians we would still be eating English food like tripe and steak and kidney pie. Most immigrants make a contribution. The Eastern Europeans come here to TAKE

  75. H B Bear

    Back in the day, if you wanted to buy ram sedative from the local vet, you had to turn up with an actual ram to prove your bona fides……..

    What that you were an actual couple and that you weren’t some kind of sheep date [email protected] pervert?

  76. Oh come on

    That blog is most informative, JC. I have a comment in moderation.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What that you were an actual couple and that you weren’t some kind of sheep date [email protected] pervert?

    I’m not a New Zealander, thank you.

  78. Oh come on

    Was Neil taken to the cleaners by a Russian bride?

  79. Zatara

    “People in this country fought for a living wage. “

    Well that, and the right to keep bulldogs and scary looking guns.

  80. JC

    No.
    But if the 1% of the 1% keep on hollowing out the middle and working classes, what will be left is them in a handful of fancy inner suburbs surounded by 30 million very, very poor and angry foriegners.
    Good luck.

    Ask yourself this. Why have wages and conditions risen inexorably upward since the industrial revolution in the west. Why have real wages gone up?

    Is it because the Arthur Scargills of this world, or is it because of advancing technology complementing higher wages?

    I don’t believe anyone here has been advocating open borders, so I can’t see what you’re getting at.

    What I do have a problem with is a nitwit advocating and unintentionally defending the Harvester case. Employers have a moral duty to pay living wages like it was the 11th commandment.

  81. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?

    I might have to hide a flask of gin.

  82. wivenhoe

    Contraception! People are pollution. Do not breed.

    I wonder if things would be different if her mother had of chosen that route?

    Yeah, I know, I answered my own question

  83. OldOzzie

    Watts Up With That?

    The ever receding climate goalpost: IPCC and Al Gore “12 years to save the planet” (again)

    Ah, it’s beginning to sound like a broken record. The same message over and over again. It’s as if these folks don’t pay attention to history.

    The United Nations has once again issued another dire climate change report (SR15, see it here) claiming we must act before it’s too late. Summary here. In the meantime, the audit of faulty climate data suggests the rush to judgment is unwarranted. See our WUWT story: BOMBSHELL: audit of global warming data finds it riddled with errors

  84. dopey

    Shame on them promoting a gambling event on the Opera House.
    Opera House Lottery ring any bells?

  85. JC

    The comment has been approved, OCO. Dunno how to make comments appear there without the tick.

    It’s a great, great site. The person who thought it up is a creative genius.

  86. JC

    Bern

    You mentioned someone recently. I think we know the same person. Won’t mention it here.

  87. Twostix

    If it was not for the Greeks and Italians we would still be eating English food like tripe and steak and kidney pie.

    Roasts, pavlova, cakes, lamingtons, biscuits, pies, steak, chops.

    These are things my people have eaten for 200 years.

    You don’t know this country.

  88. Death Giraffe

    Is it because the Arthur Scargills of this world, or is it because of advancing technology complementing higher wages

    ..
    Quite the opposite.
    Unions have contributed to the death of industry in the West.
    I saw this myself in union shops as a teenager. They voted themselves wage increases and eventually the company out of existence.
    But don’t think that the elites aren’t making a similar error now.
    They think the fundmentals of the pyramid that supports them is unimportant.
    They think it doesn’t matter where labour comes from.
    Countries, language and culture doesn’t matter.
    Because they don’t think society exists.
    Well it fucking well does exist, and when it is gone, so are you.

  89. Neil

    “Is it because the Arthur Scargills of this world, or is it because of advancing technology complementing higher wages”

    Then why do the Eastern European professionals get paid so low? Russia has lots of gas and sells it to Germany. It was mentioned that medical Doctors in Russia get low pay. I believe for research scientists the pay is even lower. They find it hard to live and since they can all speak English they all try and get jobs in English speaking countries.

  90. DrBeauGan

    Neil, there’s a graph showing the relationship between the average wage and the level of union activity in countries. It shows unequivocally that the places with most union activity have lower real wages. Fighting for a living wage isn’t as effective as getting an education and working for it.

  91. JC

    Naaa I’m fine Stack. Had sex this morn, went out for a decent lunch with some pals. All good. Stupidity makes me temporarily upset though. It’s a real failing of mine. I get really upset with imbeciles like you.

  92. stackja

    dopey – KP leading SOH protesters. KP hopes to win Wentworth prize.

  93. Twostix

    The only people we should be letting in are Americans.

    The problem is they dont want to come here.

  94. stackja

    Just Cranky. Very up it.

  95. DrBeauGan

    Then why do the Eastern European professionals get paid so low

    The after effects of three generations of socialism.

    Presumably your objection to them heading west is that they can out compete you.

  96. .

    Australia’s wages are fine.

    Sit down one day and work out how much of your total output is taxes.

    That is, work out what your boss charges out if you can. Or work out your total wage bill.

    Payroll tax, company taxes, taxes on superannuation, income tax, ML, MLS, temporary tax levies, excise taxes, GST, land taxes, council rates, tariffs, stamp duties and so on and so on. Out of this, you can then save and pay off a mortgage…

    Even the poorest full-time worker probably actually pays over 50% in tax.

    …and no, I’m not freakin’ kidding.

  97. Nick

    Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?
    I might have to hide a flask of gin.

    Good news Nilk.I hope you get to ask a question.

  98. stackja

    FIFO supposed smart. Just Cranky.

  99. Nick

    KP leading SOH protesters.

    Really? What’s it got to do with her? The Opera House isn’t in her electorate. The silly nag is doing even more to promote the race. Stupid bint.

  100. JC

    Then why do the Eastern European professionals get paid so low?

    Because their businesses and industries aren’t as advanced as those in the west. Simple.

    Russia has lots of gas and sells it to Germany.

    So fucking what? Tell me how selling gas to Germany causes an uplift in living standards for 140 million Russian to western levels, you dodo head.

    It was mentioned that medical Doctors in Russia get low pay. I believe for research scientists the pay is even lower.

    Yep. Living in a shithole country does that.

    They find it hard to live and since they can all speak English they all try and get jobs in English speaking countries

    There must be jobs in the west then, hey?

    How’s this for a proposition. More labor availability in certain sectors could actually have the effect of raising wages and increasing employment in a virtuous circle.. Silicon Valley is a great example of that. Grey matter..the sort that makes a person smart is really in short supply and people pay lots of money for the person with higher intellect.

  101. Death Giraffe

    I remember working on the docks in the eighties.
    The boss had a mate who was a whafie.
    The docks are a pinch point.
    So the unions that control them have incredible power, and know it.
    This guy never worked if there was a drop of rain. In fact, he hardly worked at all. In your average working week he spent most of it hanging out in our engineering shop.
    Drove a new car, beautiful house.
    Pilfered goods were everywhere in that town. Drugs were everywhere.
    Everything that came over the docks they helped themselves to what they wanted.

  102. DrBeauGan

    Neil objects to importing people who are smarter than he is and work harder.

    I can see how annoying that would be. Having a good whinge about this deplorable state of affairs is bound to improve things.

  103. Pilfered goods were everywhere in that town. Drugs were everywhere.
    Everything that came over the docks they helped themselves to what they wanted.

    Sounds like Garden Island in the 1980’s or Newcastle in the 1970’s

  104. Gab

    Hope you have a security detail, Nilk. Stay safe. Stay alert.

  105. JC

    Twostix
    #2835445, posted on October 9, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    The only people we should be letting in are Americans.

    The problem is they dont want to come here.

    But you also need to be careful and see carefully from which states and also what cities in these states. Texas would be good for instance, but not Austin. Fuckers from Austin are more left than hollywood dickheads.

  106. rickw

    “Hugo Keith, QC, acting for the Met, said: “It may seem obvious that had you not locked the car and had you go out, you would have presented yourself as a further target?””

    This is from the same fuckers that insist that the British People are disarmed. At least the arsehole could have had the courage of his convictions and gone out there in his short sleeve shirt and been murdered like everyone else.

    Just curious. Considering that there would be 23,000 cameras in that area, is there any CCTV footage? Or was there a ‘technical malfunction’ that stopped all 23,000 cameras from viewing the Chief Copper cowering in his chauffeur driven car?

  107. JC

    .
    #2835448, posted on October 9, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    Australia’s wages are fine.

    At the bottom levels they are the highest rates in the world. The grey market suggests the real minimum wage should be no higher than about 14 bucks an hour.

  108. Farmer Gez

    The utter ignorance and stupidity of the ABC was on show again this afternoon.
    Radio presenter Nicole Chvastek confidently stated the Everest race was only for rich white guys due to the enterence fees.
    She’s obviously not aware of the Godolphin horses or the Hong Kong Chinese owners and seems to have skipped the many lady owners in the syndicates.
    As thick as the backend of a Clydesdale.

  109. JC

    You know the US minimum wage level currently is just fantastic because at US$7.50 seeing it’s set so low it’s virtually meaningless and the market is set much higher. This allows market forces to do its thing.

  110. Neil

    “Neil objects to importing people who are smarter than he is and work harder. ”

    Some truth in that. Could anybody in this country say that they are smarter than anybody else in the world?

    But what is wrong we me saying that Eastern European professionals do not get paid a living wage? It is a fact. They cannot survive so rather than pick a higher paying job they migrate to English speaking countries and swamp the very small research/professional market

  111. DrBeauGan

    remember working on the docks in the eighties.
    The boss had a mate who was a whafie.
    The docks are a pinch point.
    So the unions that control them have incredible power, and know it.
    This guy never worked if there was a drop of rain. In fact, he hardly worked at all

    Similar experience on Liverpool docks, UK. Now they’re mostly closed down. Surprise, surprise. They were warned that Hamburg was taking their shipping and wharfies their were making more money. They just laughed and said if they wanted more money, they’d strike for it.

    I liked the wharfies I worked with, they were a lively bunch, but not good at strategic thinking.

  112. cohenite

    Sounds like Garden Island in the 1980’s or Newcastle in the 1970’s

    It does. In the 70s I worked the door at the Delaney and the bottle shop; our best client was a wharfie; we called him hydraulic jack because he’d lift anything. He had enough copper wire in his garage to circumnavigate the globe.

  113. .

    Australians have absolutely no idea how much tax they pay.

    Poor clueless bastards.

    There must be those FT, on the MW who pay around 50%+ tax and the wealthy, self-employed white collar professionals probably pay around 70% +, despite maybe any possible minimising tax down to 20-25% on income tax.

  114. Death Giraffe

    Similar experience on Liverpool docks, UK. Now they’re mostly closed down.

    ..
    The reality of the last seventy years is: we had it all and pissed it away in ongoing low-level class warfare.

  115. bundyrum

    Someone mentions sheep & straight away scooby mentions he had sex today.
    Go for it scooby…..was her name baaaaaabara?

  116. stackja

    Police barricade SOH ahead of KP protest.

  117. jupes

    Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?

    How do you get to ask a question Nilk?

    Do you have to submit it then Snowcone chooses which ones to ask? Do you get told your question is accepted?

  118. Roasts, pavlova, cakes, lamingtons, biscuits, pies, steak, chops.

    A pork roast followed by pavlova is divine.

  119. Arky:

    The reality of the last seventy years is: we had it all and pissed it away in ongoing low-level class warfare.

    + eleventy gazillion.

  120. DrBeauGan

    The reality of the last seventy years is: we had it all and pissed it away in ongoing low-level class warfare.

    Incompetence, stupidity and corruption at all levels didn’t help.

  121. Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?

    I might have to hide a flask of gin.

    Cool

    Next week will be the Nilk Edition for Interruption Lotto

  122. wivenhoe

    Next week will be the Nilk Edition for Interruption Lotto

    Nilk obviously has much more patience with stupidity than I do.

  123. thefrollickingmole

    Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?

    A lone gunman with any luck.

    Have fun, and get your question sorted before you go.

  124. DrBeauGan

    Nilk obviously has much more patience with stupidity than I do.

    I don’t mind stupid people. Until they start telling me what to do.

  125. hzhousewife

    Radio presenter Nicole Chvastek confidently stated the Everest race was only for rich white guys due to the enterence fees. She’s obviously not aware of the Godolphin horses or the Hong Kong Chinese owners and seems to have skipped the many lady owners in the syndicates.

    I would suggest that Nicole Chvastek might class the Chinese, and possibly all Asians, and all Arabs Persian, Russians however swarthy, and similar middle-eastern types as white men, because they are clearly Not Black.
    Just like Aboriginals, one sixteenth and you qualify and toots to the rest of the family tree.

  126. DrBeauGan

    But what is wrong we me saying that Eastern European professionals do not get paid a living wage? It is a fact.

    What is wrong with saying it isn’t that it’s false, it’s that it’s pointless. Telling us here will accomplish nothing. Whingeing works only for small children, and not always then.

    Try working harder and learning from your competitors.

  127. Roger

    If it was not for the Greeks and Italians we would still be eating English food like tripe…

    The Greeks and Italians have some wonderful recipes for tripe.

    I’m sure every European cuisine did.

  128. Nob

    Death Giraffe
    #2835455, posted on October 9, 2018 at 6:44 pm
    I remember working on the docks in the eighties.
    The boss had a mate who was a whafie.
    The docks are a pinch point.
    So the unions that control them have incredible power, and know it.

    Yep, that’s why unions love ports, and railways and want to control the truckies now.

    Also one of the main things that puts business off public rail freight, apart from its inefficiency in most cases even when working well.

    Not a problem when they have their own private lines, like in the Pilbara.
    These are by some reckoning, the most efficient railways in the world. But you’ll never hear greenies singing their praises.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortescue_railway#/media/File:Iron_ore_Pilbara_2.svg
    https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/hamersley-freight-line/

    But nobody wants their “just-in-time” goods kidnapped by third party brigands with no skin in the game, which is what you’re doing by relying on the public networks in a unionised country.

  129. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Nilk Iron Bogan – that moniker brings back memories of some fun times long ago on the Cat. Head low, stay safe, or carry an iron bar.

    Memories, memories. Some classic JC up there earlier on the Cat. Harvester Judgement was outright feudalism. No place for it in industrial capitalism

    Ànd sex in the morning is a good recipe for any man. 🙂

  130. Makka

    But there were in the Sahara and there’s way only you to choose from the 1 billion plus Africans. That’s totally believable.

    Hey Soros, I don’t expect you to like the facts or the truth. There are no lies in there for you to get hold of. It goes completely against your philosophy. After all you want force open borders, low wages and high migration on Australia. You are quite keen in fact to see Australia become another Asian type shithole.

    You should fk off back to NY, coward. Just fk off. Close to the UN, right at home with the other low life xunts.

  131. JC

    Achmed

    You need to calm down. How are the kebabs by the way? 🙂

  132. Dave in Marybrook

    Hmmm, good work Nilk.
    I hope you’ve got a decoy question to submit, to get hold of the mike?
    I think the 35 staff like big sob story SJW preambles.
    Maybe even a decoy name on your submission to up the chances?

  133. Roger

    The reality of the last seventy years is: we had it all and pissed it away in ongoing low-level class warfare.

    We have little idea now how thrifty people were in the past. Why, they even ate tripe!

    The rot really began in the 1970s and it’s proven impossible to stem. Thanks Gough & Co..

  134. JC

    Roger
    #2835487, posted on October 9, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    If it was not for the Greeks and Italians we would still be eating English food like tripe…

    The Greeks and Italians have some wonderful recipes for tripe.

    I’m sure every European cuisine did.

    Disgusting. Euroweenies eat everything off a beast. Went to the London Borough market that has butchers specializing in gizzards.

  135. Elle

    Survivor finale!! One guy, two gals. After the challenge/s it will be up to the jury. Happy for either one. Olympic swimmer, Shane, is impressive though. Super fit for an older gal.

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    G’day Nob. Where are you now? Back in Aberdeen?

  137. Farmer Gez

    I like Monsanto’s balls.
    They’re advertising Roundup for the gardener brazenly on the TV.
    The Trump spirit is spreading.

  138. Death Giraffe

    Ànd sex in the morning is a good recipe for any man. 🙂

    ..
    The window for sex is:
    Up until 40 you are too young and stupid to be having sex.
    After 30 you are too old and flabby.
    Number of active sex years are therefore negative ten.
    The universe therefore does not owe you sex. In fact you owe the universe ten years worth.
    Which is probably why the universe eventually fucks us all.

  139. What does he know?
    Trump is calling the allegations against Kavanaugh a hoax.

  140. Old School Conservative

    Lady Nilk, don’t forget to wear sandals and a hippie outfit.

  141. Geez , I’m in moderation for mentioning a certain 666 US chemical company.
    What gives?

  142. Death Giraffe

    If you must have sex, remember:
    Only animals and perverts have sex during daylight hours.

  143. wivenhoe

    666 US chemical company.

    Oh, no, not the curse of the Mons?

  144. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2835507, posted on October 9, 2018 at 7:41 pm
    If you must have sex, remember:
    Only animals and perverts have sex during daylight hours.

    I must be an animal.

  145. Makka

    Soros,

    Cool as.

    By the way, nobody gives a fk about what happened with wages 200 years ago at the dawn of the IR. What matters is our living standards over the last decade and the coming one.

  146. Roger

    You really must overcome this Hardyesque pessimism, Arky.

  147. Steve trickler

    From the grapevine.



  148. Bear Necessities

    The Greeks invented sex but Italians invented sex with women.

  149. Death Giraffe

    Sex is definitely a nocturnal activity.
    How would you feel visiting friends during the day and not knowing if only minutes before they had been engaged in some despicable act of perverted sexual congress?
    Revolting.

  150. Death Giraffe

    Lamington? Here let me spread some cream on it.
    Excuse fingers.
    Shudder.

  151. Cassie of Sydney

    “Farmer Gez
    #2835504, posted on October 9, 2018 at 7:38 pm
    What does he know?
    Trump is calling the allegations against Kavanaugh a hoax.”

    Not rocket science. It was pretty obvious from the beginning that the allegations against Kavanaugh were a hoax however Trump may know something more. Anyway I am so glad that Trump is calling this out for what it is…utterly putrid and disgusting…a real low point in American politics. And well done to Trump and the Republican party for standing by Kavanaugh against the barbarians at the gates. They showed guts and integrity. This is what I love about Trump…he is a warrior against the turds on the left…a movement with followers that will stop at nothing to besmirch, smear and ruin people’s lives. How lucky America is….unlike us poor sods here in Australia. Look what we’ve got….wimpy pussies on the right, most of whom would be too scared to take on a mouse. No wonder the left are always laughing.

  152. Harlequin Decline

    Whilst in Venice I had a rush of blood to the head and bought some Murano glass and had it shipped back, all shipping costs paid for. I have just received an invoice from UPS which has to be paid before delivery.

    The calculated value of the item is A$1133 and now I get slugged for-
    -Customs Entry fee $83
    -GST Paid to Customs $137 not $113.3 since insurance and freight has been added by some means
    -Security Fee $10

    Total $230

    The government seems to have taken up the slack in union thievery and then added some for good measure.

  153. 2dogs

    It was mentioned that medical Doctors in Russia get low pay. I believe for research scientists the pay is even lower.

    Yep. Living in a shithole country does that.

    Russia isn’t really a shithole. Putin has doubled incomes since coming to power, and they are now about 20% of those in the U.S. They may have a way to go to catch up, but they are getting there quite quickly.

  154. DrBeauGan

    Sex is definitely a nocturnal activity.
    How would you feel visiting friends during the day and not knowing if only minutes before they had been engaged in some despicable act of perverted sexual congress?
    Revolting.
    Death Giraffe
    #2835515, posted on October 9, 2018 at 7:55 pm
    Lamington? Here let me spread some cream on it.
    Excuse fingers.
    Shudder.

    How about knowing that your hosts had been hard at it the night before and would probably be hard at it after you’d left. Would that bother you?

    Asking for a friend.

  155. cohenite

    Hardyesque pessimism

    Hardy was a bastard who persecuted his heroines to compensate for his lack of a sex life. Of all the great novelists he is the one I would have punched the hardest. Followed by Henry James.

  156. Death Giraffe

    I must be an animal.

    ..
    On your own doesn’t count so much.
    Wash your hands before handing me a lamington though.

  157. 132andBush

    Ànd sex in the morning is a good recipe for any man. 🙂

    I prefer in the evening, it aids a good nights sleep.

  158. JC

    Cool as.

    No you’re not. You like permanently angry.

    By the way, nobody gives a fk about what happened with wages 200 years ago at the dawn of the IR. What matters is our living standards over the last decade and the coming one.

    Typical stupidity I would expect from you, Achmed. Real wages can only rise when the two other factors are in ample supply… Resources and capital… but especially capital. That’s the reason why the industrial revolution was so important. We have seen the trends for 250 years of Industrial civilization. Stick to Scargillism and don’t change one bit, you scargillist.

  159. Black Ball

    Highway Patrol. If only plod showed as much fervour chasing down African gangs than nabbing those going 5kms over the speed limit.

  160. JC

    I prefer in the evening, it aids a good nights sleep.

    Both work well though.

  161. Death Giraffe

    How about knowing that your hosts had been hard at it the night before and would probably be hard at it after you’d left. Would that bother you?

    ..
    Is there is a significant temporal gap between the filthy act and me arriving. That is the point.
    Enough time for all the sex molecules to disperse?

  162. Atoms for Peace

    Death Giraffe. Don’t visit far northern climes in summer.
    20 hours plus sunshine. Then again, what’s 30 seconds in the scheme of things.🤔

  163. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2835522, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    I must be an animal.

    ..
    On your own doesn’t count so much.
    Wash your hands before handing me a lamington though.

    A lamington? You’d be lucky. A beer if you got me in a generous mood.

  164. 132andBush

    Both work well though.

    Yeah, only when I’m being pragmatic though.
    Don’t mind a sleep in.

  165. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2835522, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    I must be an animal.

    ..
    On your own doesn’t count so much.
    Wash your hands before handing me a lamington though.

    A lamington? You should be so lucky. Maybe a beer if you caught me in a generous mood.

  166. DrBeauGan

    Sorry for the duplication.

  167. John Constantine

    Interesting rain event over vicco today, looming interest in potential for weekend followup.

    Too late for a fair bit of crop, but could significantly put big tonnes on the southern crop.

    Also interesting is the huge acreage of crop salvage cut for hay already. Green regrowth will not be a second cut, but will be dangerous if green regrowth gets picked up in the hay windrows and causes spontaneous combustion.

    Roundup is basically the answer for spraying in the hay paddocks after rain and controlling the regrowth so the hay doesn’t burn in the bale or the stack or the shed.

  168. 2dogs

    Sorry for the duplication.

    It also makes you go blind.

  169. Pickles

    After a few weeks I am sick of Bolt and Murray’s a nob. But the parrot is still funny.

  170. DrBeauGan

    It also makes you go blind.

    Only if you use a duplicator.

  171. H B Bear

    Q. What’s worse than a stand-in ALPBC j’ismist talking to another ALPBC j’ismist?

    A. A stand-in ALPBC j’ismist talking to First Dogsh1t on the Moon. Thanks ALPBC radio Perth.

  172. stackja

    Mention of SOH lottery, reminds of Thorne kidnap murder.

  173. Geriatric Mayfly

    Into town for the ram sedative injections today, a bit of acepromazine injected in them first

    This one wasn’t mentioned in the news this morning, which put Canberra in the spotlight for drug ingestion. The ACT received top marks for fentanyl consumption, which as I pointed out, is used to sedate elephants.

  174. rickw

    Just curious. Considering that there would be 23,000 cameras in that area, is there any CCTV footage? Or was there a ‘technical malfunction’ that stopped all 23,000 cameras from viewing the Chief Copper cowering in his chauffeur driven car?

    Cops cowering and / getting tardily prepared / running the opposite direction while the ordinary folk are being hacked apart doesn’t do much good for the “we’ll protect you” message.

    Although a couple of weeks ago they turned up in about 10 minutes flat. The missus wondered what I was going to do if burglar decided to try and break into our house instead of the neighbors…..

  175. Sydney Boy

    I met a guy who is one of the senior guys in the Great Barrier Reef Foundation on the weekend. Yep, the same organization that received $400M from Turnbull in the last budget. Just a quick chat, but it actually IS a legit research foundation with some very well credentialed scientists.

    I will try and see if I can get him to write us a quick contribution for the Cat, if Sinc thinks that would be OK.

  176. Elle

    Arky! Revolting? Sex isn’t revolting, no matter what time of day.

    Your motor vehicle creation (in progress) reminds me of this car. Please fast forward to 1:19 to the famous scene – so you miss the revolution.

    Link

  177. Death Giraffe

    That’s a girl movie.

  178. Tel

    If you must have sex, remember:
    Only animals and perverts have sex during daylight hours.

    And unemployed people living large on the tax dollar, which I’m not but hey… one can dream.

  179. Black Ball

    Update on Survivor Elle 🙂

  180. JC

    Question

    Do driving demerit points from another state flow through?

  181. Death Giraffe

    Listen up old people.
    There just comes a time when you should hang it up.
    An age when no one sane is interested in your sex.
    Look at yourself.
    Would you want to have sex with you? Floppy old [email protected], wrinkes on top of wrinkles and those weird age moles everywhere? Things that were smooth are now wrinked and things that used to be wrinkled are now flopping out everywhere.
    It’s an affront to nature and goodness.
    Have some dignity and self respect for chrissakes.

  182. .

    Do driving demerit points from another state flow through?

    Yes, they have done so since 2009 I believe.

  183. cohenite

    I will try and see if I can get him to write us a quick contribution for the Cat, if Sinc thinks that would be OK.

    Please do and then we should get a Peter Ridd rebuttal.

    Ask him about the fact the GBR was not even there until about 10000 bya.

  184. DrBeauGan

    Thunder and lightning and rain over here in Perth atm. I like thunderstorms.

    I’ve always approved of Thor the thunder god since I read somewhere that he had been called on by his priests to strike dead an atheist. He smote the priests instead, because he liked people who stuck up for themselves and disapproved of howling mobs.

    My kind of god.

  185. Elle

    Black Ball! Two gals left. Each worthy of the win, I reckon. What do you think? Would like to have seen Brian still there. We’re now listening to a lawyer speak. Hmm. She’s talented, but so is Shane. Your thoughts?

  186. candy

    I think stackja sounds like a lovely gentleman, jc.

  187. Please fast forward to 1:19 to the famous scene

    I know it was a “chick flick”,but gee that was a great movie.
    Thanks for the reminder, Elle.

  188. candy

    Trump is calling the allegations against Kavanaugh a hoax.

    A nasty prank gone wrong. Americans seem to like pranking (whatever that is, I’m not sure). Two weird crazy anti Trump women fix up a prank letter about Kavanaugh, because one of them was mildly acquainted with him in high school, with the idea of damaging Trump.

  189. Black Ball

    Haven’t tuned in Elle, often on sports channels in my house!

  190. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2835553, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    Listen up old people.
    There just comes a time when you should hang it up.
    An age when no one sane is interested in your sex.
    Look at yourself.
    Would you want to have sex with you? Floppy old [email protected], wrinkes on top of wrinkles and those weird age moles everywhere? Things that were smooth are now wrinked and things that used to be wrinkled are now flopping out everywhere.
    It’s an affront to nature and goodness.
    Have some dignity and self respect for chrissakes.

    You should have practised clean living, Death. And stayed away from the booze and ciggies. Anyway, lots of girls admire wrinkly old blokes if they have enough money.

  191. Honestly Elle the whole show is a joke.
    Shane remains because she was never a threat to anyone. Survivor? More like the dismissed.
    Shane gets the cash and being an old hippy will donate it to a commune.
    Nobody wants to give a greasy barrister money.

  192. BTW
    Never take acepromazine. Farmers call or Ace. Agonising muscle spasms and heart failure tend to bring the trip to a nasty finish.

  193. Death Giraffe

    I recall at the age of 21 a guy I worked with telling me: “Never turn one down, it’s the ones you turn down that you’ll regret when you get to my age. I remember this beautiful girl I was with wanted to do it on a park bench, keen as anything, she was. I couldn’t be bothered because it was so cold out”. Looking sad and nostalgic. “Never turn one down”.
    ..
    To me that bloke seemed so old and disgusting I found it hard to believe any girl wanted him or that there was ever a time when he had been young. Looking back now I reckon he was probably around 45.

  194. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Guess who’s going to be in the audience of next week’s Q&A?

    How do you get to ask a question Nilk?

    Do you have to submit it then Snowcone chooses which ones to ask? Do you get told your question is accepted?

    Jupes you have to write down your question and submit it to the staff there. That’s according to a friend who was in the audience over in WA a couple of years back. I need to channel my inner Godfrey Elfwick for the perfect question, I think.

  195. Neil

    Russia isn’t really a shithole. Putin has doubled incomes since coming to power, and they are now about 20% of those in the U.S. They may have a way to go to catch up, but they are getting there quite quickly.

    Good. Then they may go back home. I cannot work out why I got abuse for saying Russian professionals do not get paid a living wage. They don’t. But they do have permanent jobs. In Australia it is the reverse. Good wages for scientists but no job security

  196. Nob

    2dogs
    #2835519, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    It was mentioned that medical Doctors in Russia get low pay. I believe for research scientists the pay is even lower.

    Yep. Living in a shithole country does that.

    Russia isn’t really a shithole. Putin has doubled incomes since coming to power, and they are now about 20% of those in the U.S. They may have a way to go to catch up, but they are getting there quite quickly.

    It’s still like islands of prosperity among the shitholes.

    Infrastructure has improved enormously. People credit Putin with that and bringing some law and order to normal life. Even if they know he’s corrupt and murderous. “So what, everyone’s at it” In the twenty years I’ve been going there, place feels more and more like “normal everywhere else” and less weirdly foreign every time I go back.

    Even as one Russian said to me, “We’d be fucked with real sanctions. We don’t make anything. Everything is imported.”

    You have to allow for Russian gloominess/patriotism. They swing between everything Russian is the best/everything Russian is shit. We need your foreign expertise/you foreigners are all con artists and carpetbaggers.

    The seafood and fish in Sakhalin is best I’ve had anywhere this century.

  197. cohenite

    Have you bothered to read the study cited in this?

    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2018-10-7-the-greatest-scientific-fraud-of-all-time-part-xix

    I have. Jo Nova has a useful summary as well. John McLean is good value. He was one of the contributing scientists in the old Climate Sceptic days. He did some good early work on the GBR temperatures which were entirely ENSO correlated.

  198. DrBeauGan

    I recall at the age of 21 a guy I worked with telling me: “Never turn one down, it’s the ones you turn down that you’ll regret when you get to my age. I remember this beautiful girl I was with wanted to do it on a park bench, keen as anything, she was. I couldn’t be bothered because it was so cold out”. Looking sad and nostalgic. “Never turn one down”.

    Life is full of tragedy, Death.

  199. Empire 5:5

    Good. Then they may go back home. I cannot work out why I got abuse for saying Russian professionals do not get paid a living wage. They don’t. But they do have permanent jobs. In Australia it is the reverse. Good wages for scientists but no job security

    Don’t give up.

    Persist and eventually you’ll figure it out.

  200. Nob

    Death Giraffe
    #2835569, posted on October 9, 2018 at 8:47 pm
    I recall at the age of 21 a guy I worked with telling me: “Never turn one down, it’s the ones you turn down that you’ll regret when you get to my age. I remember this beautiful girl I was with wanted to do it on a park bench, keen as anything, she was. I couldn’t be bothered because it was so cold out”. Looking sad and nostalgic. “Never turn one down”.
    ..
    To me that bloke seemed so old and disgusting I found it hard to believe any girl wanted him or that there was ever a time when he had been young. Looking back now I reckon he was probably around 45.

    There’s a sweet spot somewhere between “Don’t stop!” and “Hurry up and finish” in any long-term relationship. Probably around ages 45-55

  201. candy

    I’m not sure knocking back sex on a park bench would be called a life tragedy.

  202. mh

    JC,
    With the US dollar so strong and US wages on the rise, any thoughts on the culture of tipping?

  203. mh

    From foreigner’s perspective, that is.

  204. DrBeauGan

    I’m not sure knocking back sex on a park bench would be called a life tragedy.

    It depends on the girl. If she was beautiful and keen, the least Death could do was offer an alternative venue.

  205. .

    I’m not sure knocking back sex on a park bench would be called a life tragedy.

    “I’m shipping out tomorrow…I really do love you…”

  206. JC

    Neils

    You’re not getting abuse enough for using the term “living wage”. It’s stupid. Secondly, I don’t believe Russian scientists are unable to live on what they earn. If that was the case there would be no such hing as a Russian scientist. They may get paid lower than here, but it doesn’t mean they are unable to survive on what they earn.

    Intel Corporation
    Research Scientist
    Intel Corporation
    1 employee salary or estimate
    About
    ₽1,268K – ₽1,380K
    ₽1,268K₽1,380K

    Intel Corporation
    Software Engineer/Research Scientist – Monthly
    Intel Corporation
    1 employee salary or estimate
    About
    ₽96K – ₽104K
    ₽96K₽104K

    Two jobs on Glassdoor. Two jobs offered by intel, which you obviously think shouldn’t be in Russia. Achmed Scargill certainly doesn’t think so.

    Neils, you said they don’t earn much, but Ruble 1,380,000 is equal to ~US$21,000 or $A29,700. The average wage in Russia is around Ruble 500,000 annually. The scientist’s wage is therefore 2.76 times the average wage. Stop talking crap.
    It’s low by Western standards, but scientists in Russia are not paid lowly by their own. STFU and stop scargillizing the site as it only encourages Achmed. Who knows what he’ll do. Strap on a suicide vest could be a possibility.

  207. In Australia it is the reverse. Good wages for scientists but no job

    Yeah, Australian scientists are so insecure.
    They’re afraid to even say ‘boo’ publicly in case they lose their jobs.
    Here’s a group of Australian scientists demonstrating their lack of job security.

  208. Death Giraffe

    It depends on the girl. If she was beautiful and keen, the least Death could do was offer an alternative venue.

    ..
    It wasn’t my story.
    It was the old dudes story.

  209. Infidel Tiger

    Australia are shocking at cricket.

    An appalling state of affairs.

    Can Donald Trump coach cricket?

  210. Empire 5:5

    To me that bloke seemed so old and disgusting I found it hard to believe any girl wanted him or that there was ever a time when he had been young. Looking back now I reckon he was probably around 45.

    Nice prose, but morose.

    On a brighter note, POTUS45 is 72 and boogies with this babe:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-debuts-melania-trump-official-glam-portrait-article-1.3017912

  211. DrBeauGan

    ..
    It wasn’t my story.
    It was the old dudes story.

    Then he’s the one who gets our sympathy.

  212. Infidel Tiger

    0/160
    4/171

    Crap.

  213. Death Giraffe

    Then he’s the one who gets our sympathy.

    ..
    [tears hair out, bangs head on table]

  214. Empire 5:5

    I’m not sure knocking back sex on a park bench would be called a life tragedy.

    If she’s greater than 8.5 it’s a travesty.

    You’re a long time dead.

  215. Vic in Prossy

    OK, they’re not batting well.
    But the bowler is chucking.

  216. JC

    mh
    #2835578, posted on October 9, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    JC,
    With the US dollar so strong and US wages on the rise, any thoughts on the culture of tipping?

    It’s still there, mh and I think it won’t go away because it’s culturally ingrained. but who do you tip? Cabs, doorman, barber, restaurant.

    Danny Meyer, who owns Union Square Cafe, has banned it from his restaurants. There’s a really good reason too. The front of the house gloms all the tips while the back, where people work in 55 deg heat, don’t get a share and in fact they should be the people getting the lions share of tips. It’s really unfair in that way. You can read up on his view.

    Meyer has made an absolute fortune with Shake Shack. Their burgers are superior and the frozen custard is truly fucking delicious.
    I think Meyer owns about 30% of Shake Shack. I had a good run with the stock and got out too early. Meyer is a billionaire now.

  217. Infidel Tiger

    OK, they’re not batting well.
    But the bowler is chucking.

    True, but appalling batting.

  218. .

    Speaking of park benches, trolling Tinder, the pommy Pewds:

  219. vlad

    From memory – I don’t have the books to hand – Wilde’s conversion to Catholicism consisted of being “conditionally” baptised on his deathbed when he was unconscious. He had long talked about becoming a Catholic, so some of his friends got the priest in at the last minute just in case he was lying there and thinking “If only I’d converted! If only I weren’t incapacitated and could ask for baptism right now!” etc.

  220. cohenite

    Who the hell is Marnus Labuschagne?

  221. vlad

    Am I the only person who remembers that about 15 years ago two leftists climbed the Opera House and painted a leftist slogan (“no war”) on it with actual paint without much complaint – unless I missed it – from our leftist commentariat? I haven’t seen a single reference to that anywhere in the current leftist meltdown.

  222. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    what an airhead

  223. Snoopy

    Zoe Daniel is still MIA. Trump, Cocaine Mitch and Kavanaugh broke her.

  224. Makka

    Real wages can only rise when the two other factors are in ample supply… Resources and capital… but especially capital. That’s the reason why the industrial revolution was so important.

    Blockhead, go and try to convince say an IT techie that he should be happy for his shit wages today because Industrial Revolution. Or any of the 13% youth unemployed it’s great that migrants are flooding in to take entry level jobs because Industrial Revolution. Nobody in the real world gives a fk about how or why wages rose 200 years ago. It’s only in your idiot fathead and those of your open borders mates that it matters. Fk off back to NY , Soros.

  225. Infidel Tiger

    Who the hell is Marnus Labuschagne

    Our newest fieldsman.

  226. Steve trickler

    Who at ‘Our ABC’ gets first dibs on her?



  227. .

    IT techies have shit wages?

    Maybe the low-level ones. COBOL dev – 90-110 k. Not earth-shattering, but hardly “low paid”.

    If you are prepared to the US, you can make much more, merely with a maths degree and the desire to learn to code.

    Migrants are causing youth unemployment?

    Okay, explain this. If migrants are so unemployable and part of the wrong demographic, how are they robbing jobs at all?

  228. JC

    Keep talking, achmed. One of these days, you’re going to strike luck and say something half way smart.

  229. cohenite

    Ocasio-Cortez’s teeth have more intelligence than her brains.

  230. Nob

    Too many people went for crap IT degrees while the market in Australia was shrinking, or at least not growing commensurately.

  231. Infidel Tiger

    Ocasio appears to have a good set of norks on her.

    Let her speak.

  232. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t pretend to know much about these matters, but can anyone on the Cat explain why a woman would have a flying skull – a human skull with bat’s wings – tattooed over a severe case of “tradesman’s crack?” Is there some significance to this? Inquiring minds want to know.

  233. .

    IT technies have low salaries?

    https://au.indeed.com/Cobol-$130,000-jobs

    Two 130-140k jobs in the offing.

    It might be “shit” compared to the technicians bruvahood who are like parasites on mining, heavy construction and technical engineering, but you don’t get two mining booms and an inland rail more than once in a lifetime.

    Union membership, 2016

    Electromechanical & telecommunications trades

    33.30%

  234. cohenite

    Ocasio appears to have a good set of norks on her.

    Let her speak.

    That’s the point, she can’t speak; she really is an idiot, tits not withstanding.

  235. Makka

    If migrants are so unemployable

    I didn’t say they were unemployable however more than 20% of skilled migrants are jobless after 3 months.

    This article pretty much covers my point…..

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-population-growth-immigration-wage-growth-rba-interest-rates-2018-8

    “In other words, most, but not all, of the current weakness in wages growth can be explained by a high level of labour market underutilisation.”

    So why is such a large proportion of the workforce either unemployed or employed but looking to work more hours? Employment growth, after all, was the highest level on record last year.

    Aird says the answer is simple: while demand for labour has been strong, so too has been the supply of workers.

    “Slack in the labour market is elevated in Australia because the supply of labour has exceeded the demand for workers. Policy has played a role,” he says.

    “The decision to run a very high immigration program by OECD standards has augmented the supply of labour and pushed up the participation rate beyond what would have naturally occurred. That intensifies the competition for existing jobs while also adding to the demand for labour.”

    He says recent evidence suggests that running a high immigration program, at a time when there is already high levels of labour market underutilisation, has meant that skill shortages have “not able to manifest themselves as quickly as they might have otherwise because employees are able to hire from abroad in sizeable quantities.

    “The relatively high intake of skilled workers looks to be a pre-emptive strike on the expectation that there will be skills shortages in the future,” he says.

    Skill shortages, my arse.

  236. .

    But Makka you’re complaining about low wages of skilled workers (not true) and unskilled migrants taking jobs away from unskilled workers…even though skilled migrants are by your data, low quality.

    There might be a cost to not booting them out, but they literally can’t be taking jobs away.

  237. Makka

    Unlike you Soros. You haven’t said anything useful since you admitted you didn’t have the brains to assemble some shelves. Thus proving what a useless prick you are.

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