Wednesday Forum: October 10, 2018

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  1. Crossie

    They really are a massively big step up from out current Hornets and Super-hornets. Well, for probably the last-ever generation of manned fighter aircraft, anyway.

    I can understand the advantage of machines fighting our wars so nobody gets injured or dies but am concerned that at some stage Skynet decides people are not necessary.

  2. Death Giraffe

    Oh no.
    Not the cellulitis JC.
    Tell me this isn’t how the cellulitis starts.
    Monty, you bastard.

  3. Nick

    I spent the flight with the blanket over my head trying to avoid the germs.

    You’ve become an Asian lol

  4. DrBeauGan

    I suppose I ought to care whether m0nty is carried off by his cellulitis, or whether m0nty carries off his cellulitis.

    Somehow, I just can’t manage it.

  5. Crossie

    Read CTRL ALT REVOLT! by Nick Cole for a different version of our digital future than the one portrayed in the Terminator series.

  6. mh

    The Meg is on The View.

    Most likely being told what to say by George Soros. Like her Dad

  7. Crossie

    Nick
    #2837649, posted on October 12, 2018 at 10:26 pm
    I spent the flight with the blanket over my head trying to avoid the germs.

    You’ve become an Asian lol

    I often have the fortune (or misfortune) to sit next to an Asian man or woman on a flight who promptly proceeds to fling the blanket over their head and go to sleep for most of the flight. I can’t sleep on a plane and amuse myself by watching a movie, doing crosswords or reading a book but I don’t remember coughing.

    What would be handy is general anasthaesia where fourteen hours later you wake up and get off the plane.

  8. Crossie

    Camille Paglia is incredible. A true feminist.

    It would be easy to say lesbians to the rescue of womanhood but Camille Paglis is not a run if the mill lesbian. No other lesbian can see the male point of view as well as the female one.

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    Guess it’s no different to me watching that virtual plane of the screen inch it’s way across land masses and oceans. But on a recent short 3+hr to NZ, the Chinese joker next to me was hunched over an i-pad and scrolled the same photos back and forth for the entire time. Could have been hunting for a dissident hiding in the bamboo.

  10. Crossie

    dover_beach
    #2837373, posted on October 12, 2018 at 3:09 pm
    So let me get this straight. The Liberals are actually planning to crack down on private schools on behalf of the homosexual lobby?
    Forget about the fake news misdirection that led to the opposite being reported. The real story here is the Liberal Party selling out its base (again) and playing footsie with the “safe schools” gimp.

    ScoMo has some explaining to do.

    Whatever church he belongs to must be very progressive.

  11. Oh come on

    So let me get this straight. A Soyuz rocket fails, the astronauts aboard eject automatically and land in Kazakhstan alive, and this reflects poorly on the Russian space program? Because, after all, the crews on those Space Shuttle losses ejected safely. Oh.

    The Soyuz platform is a freaking amazing piece of engineering. It isn’t much younger than my kid’s grandma, yet a manned flight can suffer a catastrophic failure 50km above the surface of the earth with no fatalities.

    Space exploration isn’t all that safe. We ought to be celebrating the venerable Soyuz for making it safer.

  12. Oh come on

    Was Waffle House Star Nikki Haley Booted for Writing Anonymous NYT Op/Ed?

    No. Stop posting moronic links, Zyco.

  13. Crossie

    Malcolm Turnbull has confirmed his succesor Scott Morrison was largely responsible for the Coalition’s controversial $443.3 million grant to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, amid revelations more taxpayer funds could be paid to the charity over the next six years.

    If this is true then Morrison must be ditched for LNP to have any chance at the next election.

  14. Ummmm, wrong. The F-35 is in service with the US Air Force and US Marines and has been operating for a year now.

    Yeah, yeah, Sydney Boy, of course it is.
    Technically nine of them are “in service” with the RAAF**.
    That’s why they are still in the U.S.
    We always station “our” planes overseas to train the pilots and ground support staff.
    Doesn’t everybody? How silly of me.
    Especially since it’s our resident weapons expert, Sissy Missy Chrissy Pyne reassuring us. You know, the bloke who was good enough to explain why no existing subs could operate in both the Indian and Pacific oceans, so we had to have a brand new design. At twice the price of the most sophisticated nuclear powered attack submarines currently in production anywhere in the world.

    .
    ** Yes,we”own” them, and we have “taken delivery” of them, and, presumably, we have PAID for them. It’s just that Lockheed Martin aren’t ready to actually release them to us yet, that’s all.

    A minor inconvenience.

  15. zyconoclast

    Domenico Lucano, Mayor of Riace in Calabria, southern Italy, has been arrested as he is suspected of promoting illegal immigration and helping immigrants illegally stay in the country.

    Lucano has won international recognition by other multiculturalists since he filled his small town, Riace in Calabria in southern Italy, with illegal immigrants, or “thousands of refugees”, as Reuters words it.

    He is now accused of having organised marriages with “particular ruthlessness”, between local Italians and immigrants in his municipality, so that the latter could stay in the country.

  16. zyconoclast

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Paid Off Two Bank Loans On Day Imran Awan Gave Her Laptop To Police In Bank Fraud Case

    Big League Politics has exclusively obtained financial records and Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) filings documenting the transactions of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and her husband.

    Wasserman-Schultz owed money to Bank of the West on a five-year loan arrangement set to expire on April 20, 2020. But Wasserman Schultz and her husband cancelled the loans — presumably by paying cash — on April 6, 2017, the same day that Imran Awan’s backpack was found in the Rayburn building shortly after midnight.

  17. Oh come on

    Shut up, MV. You don’t know shit about this and you’re guessing.

  18. Entropy

    Crossie
    #2837662, posted on October 12, 2018 at 10:57 pm
    Malcolm Turnbull has confirmed his succesor Scott Morrison was largely responsible for the Coalition’s controversial $443.3 million grant to the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, amid revelations more taxpayer funds could be paid to the charity over the next six years.

    If this is true then Morrison must be ditched for LNP to have any chance at the next election

    Of course he was. He was Treasurer. It was just an accounting trick to have all the cost in last year’s deficit, to help get closer to surplus in future years. The foundation was still expected to dole out the money over five years. He no doubt got the idea from the Wayne Swan approach to future surplus achieving, and it will probably be just as successful. ScoMo is too stupid to be as sneaky about it as the goose was though. The scam is to do it with lotsa smallish budget items, rather than a great big one that even I picked up on on budget night.

    Leaving that aside, what a nasty piece of work Turnbull is. He was the PM at the time, he should own up to his responsibilities, as the buck stops at the top, loser!

  19. JC

    Stop it, OCO, let him go. At least he’s not giving daily voting advice, or predicting an aboriginal uprising in the west.

  20. John Constantine

    Whenever a non-turnbullites that loathes their black handed election winning machine has a loathsome contagious illness, it is their true duty to get in the lift with a socialist posing as a coalition politician and spit on them.

    Until the socialists infiltrating the liberals must come to realise they just can’t laugh off no donations and no volunteers to man booths and the base leaving, because all that means to them is that their leftist totalitarian Stalinist hellhole socialism is winning.

    A good regular dousing in contemptuous infected spittle is the way to bring things home to them.

    Bastards.

    Imagine knowing turnbull was a socialist that infiltrated the liberals just to destroy the country, and voting in the party room to make him prime Minister anyway.

    Comrade baaaaaaastards.

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Shut up, MV. You don’t know shit about this and you’re guessing.

    Remembering the whole F – 111 saga, what’s your take on the situation?

  22. C.L.

    Have all the white Anglican bishops been sacked or something?

  23. C.L.

    ‘The View’ Blasts Melania: She Has ‘No Friends,’

    The girls have come a long way since primary school.

  24. jupes

    All we seem to have is one airlift squadron, 2 SF regiments and 4 commando regiments, and we are only ever able to field the equivalent of 2 battalions at any one time.

    Not quite Dotty.

    Special Operations Command comprises the SAS Regt, 2 Commando Regt (regular army), 1 Commando Regt (chocos), and a Special Operations Engineer Regiment plus some administrative units.

  25. C.L.

    Machine-guns at 100 metre intervals along the Windsor driveway.
    Not your father’s England.

  26. Crossie

    Leaving that aside, what a nasty piece of work Turnbull is. He was the PM at the time, he should own up to his responsibilities, as the buck stops at the top, loser!

    I can’t blame this all on him as he had help from 54 other losers.

  27. Crossie

    C.L.
    #2837676, posted on October 12, 2018 at 11:17 pm
    Have all the white Anglican bishops been sacked or something?

    I think they all declared they were atheists.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not quite Dotty.

    Special Operations Command comprises the SAS Regt, 2 Commando Regt (regular army), 1 Commando Regt (chocos), and a Special Operations Engineer Regiment plus some administrative units.

    Thanks for clearing that one up, jupes, I was wondering about Dotty’s order of battle.

  29. Crossie

    C.L.
    #2837679, posted on October 12, 2018 at 11:21 pm
    Machine-guns at 100 metre intervals along the Windsor driveway.
    Not your father’s England.

    But diversity is their strength.

  30. Oh come on

    Remembering the whole F – 111 saga, what’s your take on the situation?

    Why are you changing the subject?

  31. Oh come on

    I mean, the parallel you’re attempting to draw doesn’t even help your cause. You would have been better off with the Collins-class, because there is still some debate over whether its current operational effectiveness has been worth the platform’s extended procurement and development blues. The F-111, once it was delivered, gave us capabilities that we now lack and will lack for the foreseeable future.

  32. Infidel Tiger

    10:53 pm
    So let me get this straight. A Soyuz rocket fails, the astronauts aboard eject automatically and land in Kazakhstan alive, and this reflects poorly on the Russian space program? Because, after all, the crews on those Space Shuttle losses ejected safely. Oh.

    The Russkies have some brilliant kit. Particularly in the missile space.

    Still can’t keep a carrier at sea, but they have some amazing nuclear capability.

    Their greatest advantage of course is that they have hardened troops and a leadership that hasn’t grown up on soy milk.

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Remembering the whole F – 111 saga, what’s your take on the situation?

    Why are you changing the subject?

    I’m not changing the subject at all – I’m recalling all the uproar about the F – 111. Were they too complex for the Royal Australian Air Force to operate, did Australia need them in the first place, would we lose eight in the first year? I’m just wondering if we aren’t headed for a similar exercise over the new fighters.

  34. .

    The F-35 thing is beyond a joke.

    It started in 1992.

    The F-15 started in 1967 and was delivered in 1975.

    Which is a demonstrably better, cheaper platform with a track record of success in more roles than the other plane and with better performance attributes?

    No wonder President Trump requested that a beefier, stealthier version of the Super Hornet be “priced up”.

  35. Bushkid

    Lindsay Graham lost his parents when he was 22, and then adopted his sister who was thirteen at the time.

    As the younger sister of a then 21 year old brother who became my legal guardian after our parents deaths, I salute Lindsay Graham for taking on that responsibility.

  36. No wonder President Trump requested that a beefier, stealthier version of the Super Hornet be “priced up”.

    True, Dot. Unfortunately Trump seems tohave backpedaled on his original skepticism. Lockheed Martin may have fallen from grace in the actual building of aircraft, but they are masters of the art of manipulating the politics behind it.

    Construction and development of the F35 is now spread across 44 US states. Canceling it could be political suicide. Trump is not a fool.

  37. Oh come on

    I’m not changing the subject at all – I’m recalling all the uproar about the F – 111.

    So you are changing the subject.

  38. The Russkies have some brilliant kit. Particularly in the missile space.

    True, IT.
    There are some here tonight who have denigrated the Soyuz missile as ancient technology. The truth is, while the original design may be decades old, the versions produced today are the end result of decades of constant improvement. NASA has nothing to compare – not even close.

  39. Zulu, I loves you like a brother, mate, but why do you bother? The Fatuous Four are only here to try and stir trouble, and pick fights. God gave you a scroll button, use it.

  40. JC

    Rones. That’s three cars and a caravan.

  41. Oh come on

    Seriously?

    In hindsight, could the F-35 have been delivered more cheaply? Yes, no doubt. Could it have been delivered much more cheaply? Yes, but we are starting to enter ‘in a perfect world’ hypotheticals. Could it have been delivered much, much more cheaply? Well, the Russians claimed it could have been – until they unceremoniously stopped claiming that.

  42. .

    The F-35 is the worst example of “real world” “success” you could possibly come up with.

    F-15 – 8 years to delivery

    F/A-18 in Australian service – three to nine years.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, I loves you like a brother, mate, but why do you bother? The Fatuous Four are only here to try and stir trouble, and pick fights. God gave you a scroll button, use it.

    As one Sandgroper to another, point taken. God gave me a scroll button to ignore J C’s ravings on the Cat. I will endevour to be guided by your wise counsel. Good night.

  44. The F-35 is the worst example of “real world” “success” you could possibly come up with.

    Its biggest claim to fame, allegedly advanced “stealth” technology, was rendered obsolete a few years ago by advancements in Passive Detection Systems (PDS). Now all the advanced technology countries (which naturally precludes Australia), are equipped with PDS.

  45. Oh come on

    Dot, you’re cracked up to be some kind of uber-autist but the metrics you’re using are simplistic. Comparing the F-35’s development with that of earlier fighters isn’t relevant. Ultimately, the F-35’s success or failure will rest on its combat performance and if it can walk all of the voluminous talk that accompanied its development.

  46. .

    metrics you’re using are simplistic

    They ought to be. There is no need to complicate this. 26 years of development and no deliverables, already cheaper, better planes can be bought off the shelf. The superior (but unavailable) F-22 is cheaper anyway.

  47. Death Giraffe

    Face like a potato or a horse? Pasty complexions? Weirdly severe haircuts on the women? Ugly woollen tops? Thuck accents?
    At boarding gate to NZ.
    Always a smack in the face: Oh, these bloody people again.
    Whoever you are and whenever or however you got there, its the end of the line.

  48. Death Giraffe

    Don’t you lot laugh.
    Your just as retarded in your own special way.

  49. Sydney Boy

    There are HUGE differences between the F/A-18 and the F35. For a start, there are HUGE difference between a Hornet and a Super Hornet. If you look at them side by side, you would agree they look similar, but the Super Hornet is about 30% bigger. It’s like looking at a Ford F-150 and a Ford F-250 side by side. The Super Hornet has far more sensors and weapon capabilities as well, and the 2 seater version also has the Growler variant which is a highly capable recon and electronic attack aircraft. Yes, the F35 is massively expensive – and has had enormous cost over-runs. The capability it will bring will put the Super Hornet to shame, and stealth on top of that. Israel has already used them for ground strikes successfully.

    The ADF has some winning contracts for new equipment, and some losers. The new subs are going to be a loser. I’m obviously more familiar with Army kit. The Bushmaster is fantastic and well-proven. The new EF-88 rifle is great. But we are currently experiencing a bunch of problems with the new heavy vehicle fleet – they can be sorted out. I’m looking forward to the new Boxer Armoured Fighting Vehicle, though. Very well protected, punchy weapons, good range and a good suite of sensors, but rather big and heavy and could have problems getting around some terrain.

  50. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has been referred to the parliamentary Ethics Committee amid claims she committed bribery by threatening to withdraw resources from her political opponents unless they backed her agenda in parliament.

    Ethics is a mask marxists wear only when the need arises. Evil lurks below.

  51. Nick

    That did make me laugh Arky. Keep the observations coming.

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