Wednesday Forum: October 10, 2018

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  1. DrBeauGan

    Tom
    #2836460, posted on October 11, 2018 at 4:57 am
    Did I mention that, because he’s a leftard zombie, the anti-business daily’s David Rowe is also a religious bigot?

    Yes, he is, but that’s no surprise. On the other hand he can draw and dramatise well.

    I don’t mind at all that his opinions are twisted sicko stuff. Bounces off me. But I like to see a prejudice well expressed even if I think it’s fundamentally perverse. Besides, know your enemy.

    Thanks for putting them up.

  2. None

    Question why would a gay student want to go to a religious school anyway? I don’t know any gay students clamouring go to an Islamic school, do you?
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scott-morrison-urged-to-draft-new-laws-to-ban-religious-discrimination-20181010-p508su.html

    By the way note again Tim Wilson being the typical lefty fascist that he always was. That man is not to be trusted with anything.

  3. miltonf

    So what was Tim wilson doing in the IPA?

  4. Snoopy

    So what was Tim wilson doing in the IPA?

    Preparing for a lifetime in Parliament. Thanks for coming.

  5. miltonf

    so it seems. I don’t think the other IPA guy has distinguished himself either

  6. Tintarella di Luna

    Death Giraffe
    #2836357, posted on October 10, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    How gorgeous, lovely sight first thing this morning.

  7. Up The Workers!

    Meanwhile, in relation to Tom’s third cartoon for the day, David Rowe’s own fact-phobic ‘religion’ involves the gullible vegan devout in such comical Humpty-Dumptyist leaps of faith before their altar of Leftard stupidity as gerbil worming (which isn’t), rising sea levels (which aren’t), human breath alleged to be a killer poison gas (which it is not), prohibitively expensive solar and wind power replacing cheap, constant, reliable coal power (which it cannot), and the sun rising each morning from Bob Brown’s sphincter.

    Hallelujah, Brothers and sisters!

  8. egg_

    John Mason: Your “best”! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

    If you’re built like The Rock, chances are you will f*ck the prom queen.
    Shortarses have to be competitive.

  9. DrBeauGan

    Up The Workers!
    #2836476, posted on October 11, 2018 at 6:39 am
    Meanwhile, in relation to Tom’s third cartoon for the day, David Rowe’s own fact-phobic ‘religion’ involves the gullible vegan devout in such comical Humpty-Dumptyist leaps of faith before their altar of Leftard stupidity as gerbil worming (which isn’t), rising sea levels (which aren’t), human breath alleged to be a killer poison gas (which it is not), prohibitively expensive solar and wind power replacing cheap, constant, reliable coal power (which it cannot), and the sun rising each morning from Bob Brown’s sphincter.

    Hallelujah, Brothers and sisters!

    Ain’t that the size of it. But lefties have real revealed truths to trust beyond all doubt, while Christians are just deluded fools.

    These aren’t really terribly bright people, are they?

  10. DrBeauGan

    What it goes to show is that people pick up their religion mainly from their friends and rellies. They all believe in gerbil worming soley on the basis that they have been assured by the people they talk to that it’s a real and dreadful threat. Hardly any of them have looked at the facts and they couldn’t follow the arguments if they did. But it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling and adds meaning to their stupid pointless lives, which is the whole point of religion.

    Pity they couldn’t choose one with a decent morality, but hey, those aren’t fashionable.

  11. DrBeauGan

    I recently said to Spiky that if it came down to a choice between Christianity and leftism, I’d pick Christianity every time.

    She replied that if it came to that, she’d choose dogs.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yesterday, the new Acropolis Museum, all very swish and housing all the bas relief tableaux that have been removed from the Parthenon. Às we saw in Olympia a few yeàrs ago, the Greeks do reconstructions from a few leftovers very well. A stylish museum with a Parthenon view in the cafe, with table service prices to match. Guess they have to get their costs back somehow.

    Then up to see sunset on the Parthenon itself although 6pm closure meant we had to watch it from the Areos Pagos (Mars Hill, colloquially Ariofàgas) the great Speakers’ Rock above the Agora on the Acropolis slopes. We used the original rock cut steps up but they and the rock surface at the top were tougher going than the last time we had climbed them ten years ago. We were glad to come off it by the modern metal steps.

    Today we did the National Archaeological Museum. It is everything you might expect, and more. The treasures of Homeric tales, the gold of Mycaenae, the glories of Cretan and Mycenean cukture, the sub-Mycenean dark age, the Archaic and then Classical periods, and a themed exhibition across ages on Beauty – in artifacts and in the human form. An aesthetic feast, for which we fortified ouremselves first by afternoon tea in a courtyard of shipwrecked statues while some over-acting actress did Medea in raucous Greek to shatter the peace, a rehearsal for a later performance.

    London tomorrow.

  13. John Constantine

    Three inches of rain in parts around Wycheproof just when it was about too late on Tuesday.

    Follow up rain tipped for Monday, maybe followup to the followup at the end of next week.

    Too late for Wyche, but some parts of vicco will benefit massively.

    Those that cut everything for hay, now see the regrowth in the hay paddock that needs money spent spraying or it will contaminate the hay, plus you always get away with the first rain on hay if the ground is dry, but the followup rains bleach the value out of it.

    Then you have to spend up money spraying the summer weeds.

    Very interesting season, enough rain and the legumes will reflower and compensate for the damage the frosts did and set new pods and could yield anything.

    Right now though it is blowfly season and time to jet anti-maggott chemicals onto the vunerable flock.

  14. 132andBush

    Have a good mate at Wyche, not sure if he’s laughing or crying.

  15. OldOzzie

    Trump, Declassification, and Leverage

    Leverage, anyone? Declassification would expose all these foreign players, but the heaviest hit by far would be against the U.K. and its Australian poodle. And so we learn that “key allies” “begged” Trump not to declassify that “origination material.” Raimondo notes:

    Trump’s decision to walk back his announcement that the key Russia-gate intelligence would be declassified tells us almost as much as if he’d tweeted it out, unredacted. For what it tells us is that public knowledge of the contents would constitute a major break in relations with at least one key ally.

  16. Wycheproof was the exception. Most of the Eastern side of the Mallee and Wimmera were on the light end of the rain, around 10-15mm. The deficit for the year is massive. Pissing on a fire!
    Lots of crops cut for hay and the legume acreage was well down anyway. Still in a frost by the way. The old man said he’s seen a frost on Melbourne Cup morning.
    This year is one where the weather says, “You reckon you’re buggered now? Watch this”.

  17. OldOzzie

    RE Farms – Looking at BOM Radar local shows onshore rain here in Sydney rotating back in from the sea – whilst the National Radar shows Cloud Mass over Centre – is thatHigh Likely to push down?

  18. 132andBush

    This year is one where the weather says, “You reckon you’re buggered now? Watch this”.

    Yep.

    Heading for Qld with the header tomorrow.
    Place I go to is about 7 days off starting and have struggled through to an 8 to 10 bagger.
    Cumulative forecast rain for the next 10 days is around 50mm.

  19. I like Tim Blair

    LET NOT THE FLOODS CONSUME US, NOR THE FIRES OF CAPITALISM SCORCH OUR FLESH
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    October 10, 2018 7:47pm

    Our next reading is from the book of Al Gore (profits be upon him), on the virtue of being virtuous.

    especially the PBUH.

  20. What it goes to show is that people pick up their religion mainly from their friends and rellies. They all believe in gerbil worming soley on the basis that they have been assured by the people they talk to that it’s a real and dreadful threat. Hardly any of them have looked at the facts and they couldn’t follow the arguments if they did.

    This is more or less the case regarding all opinions, not merely the ordinary person’s religious opinions. And it says nothing about the opinions themselves, but something about ordinary people, and that is on matters they are not expert upon, that they defer to the judgment of others.

    But it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling and adds meaning to their stupid pointless lives, which is the whole point of religion.

    Judging by the coprophagic grin on most leading atheists, not merely the ordinary variety, I see your point.

  21. Heading for Qld with the header tomorrow.
    Place I go to is about 7 days off starting and have struggled through to an 8 to 10 bagger.
    Cumulative forecast rain for the next 10 days is around 50mm.

    Good luck with that Bush.
    Lots of headers didn’t see a mechanic this year and have had the feeder pulled out to cut cut crops. We spent $25,000 last year and it still needs the rotor out. Shoe string budgeting.

  22. Old School Conservative

    Oh come on
    #2836414, posted on October 10, 2018 at 11:12 pm
    Oh, please. Some old farts here crapping on about Jordan Peterson pointing out “the bleeding obvious”. If it was so damn bleeding obvious, how come you have proven so shit at relaying such an “obvious” message to your children and grandchildren? Seriously. Why aren’t you Jordan Peterson? Maybe it’s only so bleeding obvious to you when it’s pointed out to you, and then you decided that that’s what you’ve been thinking all along.

    Yeah, nah. You’re not that special. If you were, you’d be raking in $100k/month via Patreon from the donations of grateful followers.

    I thought that was the message – that Peterson has done a lot of deep thinking about universal truths. His level of analysis surpasses the average intellect and it’s great to have personal theories supported in this way.
    It’s like an average cricketer watching an elite cricketer and comparing style and technique.
    PS a lot of “self improvement” courses and books, perhaps not written by the old farts on the Cat, echo Peterson’s “Rules for Life” in some way. There are others trying to do as you exhort.

  23. struth

    Good Moaning.

    How bad have our pollies and deep state been?

    How bad are they now?

    Obviously with no ambassador to Australia from the USA, and the panic over the release of information damming them, how bad has socialist Australia been in interfering in the USA’s election process.

    Look at the disgusting reaction to Trump’s election by nearly all of our reps, but especially Turnbull’s.

    You really need to ask yourself what is going on.

    The ratification the very next day of Paris.
    The very first comment out of Turnbull’s mouth after Trump’s election was to assure his Global Socialist U.N. bosses that there is no way Australia will be doing anything to upset their western destruction agenda.

    He then won’t leave office until he gets a pro Global Socialist replacement.

    This prick that is now PM is more dangerous than Turnbull because he is a better bullshit artist.

    He is telling us quite simply that it doesn’t matter what we say to the UN, we will do what we like anyway, so no need to pull out of Paris, guys…………..

    Really?

    I suggest it’s the other way around, and indeed anyone with that gutter level of integrity has no business expecting trust be put in him, on any level.

    It actually doesn’t matter what he is telling us, we will be in boots and all, and as has happened before, we don’t need to sign anything to comply to the UN agenda.

    Our deep state needs a vigilant watchdog, something they have never had to concern themselves with.

    We’ll be culling our herds and going without power no matter what the say they have signed, haven’t signed or indeed said.

    We especially need one now, and our media can only be trusted to hide not expose, socialist corruption.

  24. mh

    Candace Owens
    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO
    ·
    6h
    Last night on
    @CNN
    , Kanye West was called a “token negro” and a “dumb negro”.

    I want you guys to imagine if those words were EVER uttered on
    @FoxNews
    .

    CNN has finally committed to going full blown RACIST.

    They want their slaves back

    @Bakari_Sellers

    @donlemon
    #TRUMP2020
    https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1050045731812401153?s=20

  25. Percy Popinjay

    They all believe in gerbil worming solely on the basis that they have been assured by the people they talk to that it’s a real and dreadful threat

    Yep and after three decades of fraudulent morons screeching incessantly about this anti-scientific fact and evidence free horse manure, it’s now more obvious than ever what “a real and dreadful threat” gerbil worming indeed is.

    Except that it isn’t. Unless you’re an imbecile, of course.

  26. Tom

    H/T OldOzzie:

    Trump, Declassification, and Leverage

    With Cyclone Michael porn totally submerging the normal pro and anti- Trump narratives on US cable TV, that’s my read of the week on US politics. Sorry, Tucker and Sean.

    Such a pity the Paywallian’s coverage of US politics is now so juvenile and inane. In fact, the Paywallian hasn’t broken an important story on anything for years.

  27. C.L.

    It seems Andrew Bolt has switched sides, now supports “safe schools.”

    That’s the only conclusion to be drawn from his argument that if private schools are ‘allowed’ to “kick out” homosexual kids (that’s Bolt’s interpretation of what the words “may discriminate in relation to” mean) then they should no longer be given any government monies.

    This follows his militant opposition to laser lights desecrating the sacred Opera House.

    It seems he wants to be liked by leftists again.

  28. stackja

    Leftists say they have rights.
    Leftists say Christians don’t have rights.

  29. 132andBush

    Good luck with that Bush.
    Lots of headers didn’t see a mechanic this year and have had the feeder pulled out to cut cut crops. We spent $25,000 last year and it still needs the rotor out. Shoe string budgeting.

    Thanks, Gez.

    That sounds like either a red or green machine with 2,000 – 2,500 sep hrs .

  30. mh

    Andrew Bolt should be irrelevant to the political debate in 2018.

    I’m not sure who is advising these overseas speakers who come here that they need to include Bolt on their media circuit. Bolt has absolutely nothing in common with them. Mark Steyn on his first speaking tour in Australia called Bolt a fair-weather friend.

  31. Geriatric Mayfly

    The state ordered that vehicle out of service in September and it should not have been on the road, New York State Police Superintendent George Beach said.
    “The sole responsibility for the motor vehicle being on the road on Saturday rests with Nauman Hussain,” Beach said.

    Should have done his apprenticeship out Lakemba way.

  32. stackja

    C.L. – Bolt is a confusion.

  33. Baldrick

    It seems Andrew Bolt has switched sides, now supports “safe schools.”

    I’d like Bolt to name just 10 children who have been denied an education at a private school for being gay.

  34. stackja

    mh – I wonder if Bolt got shocked by court case and will never recover.

  35. More likely that blot sees the writing on the wall that soon there will be ALP governments in Victoristan and federally for a very long time.
    He needs to position himself as someone the ALP will talk to.
    He has a family to feed.

  36. struth

    That sounds like either a red or green machine with 2,000 – 2,500 sep hrs .

    Are you a yellow man, 123 and bush?

  37. Old School Conservative

    C.L.
    #2836516, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:00 am
    It seems Andrew Bolt has switched sides, now supports “safe schools.”

    Chris Kenny nailed the argument on PML last night.
    To paraphrase – Christian schools want to be able to refuse overtly gay teachers and students from entering the schools, because those lifestyle choices go against the teachings of their church.
    However, gay students already attending the school are treated with care and respect, not expelled as the hysterical commentators assume. Teachers are expected to conform to Church practices.
    I assume highly visible events such as Year 12 formals would see a ban on gay partners too.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Are you a yellow man, 123 and bush?

    Racist!

  39. That’s the only conclusion to be drawn from his argument that if private schools are ‘allowed’ to “kick out” homosexual kids (that’s Bolt’s interpretation of what the words “may discriminate in relation to” mean) then they should no longer be given any government monies.

    Leftists and liberals are banging their war drums again. They are whipping up confected outrage about a little used, if at all, freedom that allows schools to maintain the integrity of their teaching where it may be flagrantly abused by a student or teacher. Of course, this was always waiting in the wings, especially post-marriage redefinition, “What? You won’t allow Mr Cooper to attend this school event with ‘his’ husband? He is legally ‘married, you bigot’!”

  40. struth

    More likely that blot sees the writing on the wall that soon there will be ALP governments in Victoristan and federally for a very long time.
    He needs to position himself as someone the ALP will talk to.
    He has a family to feed.

    Is this an excuse?

  41. stackja

    Baldrick – Bolt believed SMH story. Bolt also said MT leaked to SMH. Bolt is confusing.

  42. OldOzzie

    C.L.
    #2836516, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:00 am

    It seems Andrew Bolt has switched sides, now supports “safe schools.”

    That’s the only conclusion to be drawn from his argument that if private schools are ‘allowed’ to “kick out” homosexual kids (that’s Bolt’s interpretation of what the words “may discriminate in relation to” mean) then they should no longer be given any government monies.

    This follows his militant opposition to laser lights desecrating the sacred Opera House.

    It seems he wants to be liked by leftists again.

    Agreed Bolt has lost me as well – have deleted recording him on Sky News and will stick with Peta Credlin – given up reading his Blogs as well.

    His whingeing on the Sydney Opera House finally did it for me – For God’s Sake the Sydney Opera House was Funded by a Opera House Lottery which is Gambling!!!

  43. struth

    Racist!

    Yeah, I’m getting to be!

    I used to think women should be voting as well.

  44. Is this an excuse?

    No.
    It’s a choice people make. Eat or resist.

  45. Old School Conservative

    mh
    #2836519, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:09 am
    I’m not sure who is advising these overseas speakers who come here that they need to include Bolt on their media circuit.

    Because his audience is large, fairly conservative, and more likely to buy the speakers’ packages.

  46. stackja

    db – Leftists don’t want any religion.

  47. Leftists don’t want any religion.

    Wrong. See Tim Blair.

  48. stackja

    OO – Bolt is confusing.

  49. struth

    Racist………………a little but increasing.

    Sexist…………………..yes, increased massively, lately.

  50. mh

    Listening to Ray Hadley, he keeps talking up rainfall forecasts for Brisbane. Apparently Saturday is when the “really heavy rain arrives”, then says up to 35 mm. That amount of rainfall, 35 mm, would be heavy rain up here if it fell in half an hour, but not over the course of a day.

  51. struth

    Leftist’s religion is government, and total submission to it.

  52. Methinks PBUH – “Profits be upon him”
    should be added to the cat lexicon.

    Kudos to Blair

  53. mh

    Because his audience is large, fairly conservative, and more likely to buy the speakers’ packages.

    There are no large audiences on Sky News.

  54. OldOzzie

    Chinese spy caught in ‘rare’ sting after ‘plot to steal US trade secrets’

    Yanjun Xu, a senior officer with China’s Ministry of State Security, is accused of seeking to steal trade secrets from leading defence aviation firms, top Justice Department officials said

    US agents have arrested a top Beijing intelligence official for allegedly attempting to steal trade secrets from GE Aviation and other US aerospace companies after luring the suspect to Belgium in what the US Justice Department called “an unprecedented extradition”

    Xu Yanjun, who also uses the names Qu Hui and Zhang Hui, was extradited to the US on Tuesday with assistance from Belgian authorities for seeking “to steal trade secrets and other sensitive information from an American company that leads the way in aerospace”, Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers said in a Justice Department announcement on Wednesday.

  55. Nick

    I feel sorry for the Catholic hierarchy, they are being drawn into a debate about gay kids in schools that they don’t want. Catholic schools would only punt a teacher who was openly advocating anti Catholic values to kids. Seriously, if there was a purge on teachers , kids or Catholic hierarchy who were ‘flamboyant’ there would be a fair few going.

  56. struth

    Last night we had an event outside.

    We used to call them storms.

    It’s all in the language, isn’t it?

  57. struth

    There are no large audiences on Sky News.

    Interesting to see with the move to free to air, just how big it now is.

  58. DrBeauGan

    This is more or less the case regarding all opinions, not merely the ordinary person’s religious opinions. And it says nothing about the opinions themselves, but something about ordinary people, and that is on matters they are not expert upon, that they defer to the judgment of others.

    True, of course. But if you’re information about the weather in Perth comes from rellies and friends living there you are slightly more likely to go on a crusade for the belief that it is currently raining there than if you got assurances about the weather in Perth from some friends in London. And you would not be very likely to go on a crusade, with marches and banners and chants in either case. Because you would, being mostly sane, have doubts about the judgments to which you defer.

    It’s the people full of certainty on such inadequate grounds that I’m picking on.

    But you knew that.

  59. Roger

    SloMo, addressing the religious freedom of Christian schools, had a bad case of the Abbotts this morning on AM with Sabra Lane:

    “Um..ahhh…well……”

    He also soft played the opportunity to accuse Bil Shorten of hypocrisy, given that Shorten was a member of the Labor Cabinet that introduced current freedoms.

  60. thefrolickingmole

    From above

    Candace Owens
    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO
    ·
    6h
    Last night on
    @CNN
    , Kanye West was called a “token negro” and a “dumb negro”.

    They really really dont want their slaves off the plantation do they?

    Kayne might be a complete loon, but he has definitely shown the hate the left have for people who step outside their designated roles in life.

  61. Bushkid

    struth
    #2836550, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:31 am
    Last night we had an event outside.

    We used to call them storms.

    It’s all in the language, isn’t it?

    Yes, it’s all getting rather silly, actually. When ordinary weather is called an “event”, and 35mm of rain over a day is “heavy”. One memorable “event” I experienced in Darwin years ago saw some 400mm fall in a few hours. That was just a typical wet season storm. Truly awesome to watch as it happened at night with magnificent lightning etc, but and “event”? Nah, just the Top End doing what it does in summer.

    No wonder society is getting sillier by the day, with such nonsense being thrown at them, and with so many believing it. When every little weather variation is spruiked as “unprecedented” or major or any of a multitude of catastrofarian superlatives, people have lost track of what is actually normal and unremarkable.

  62. mh

    More from lnfowars:

    CNN CALLS KANYE WEST ‘TOKEN NEGRO’ FOR TRUMP SUPPORT

    ‘Kanye West is what happens when negroes don’t read,’ guest says

    https://www.infowars.com/cnn-calls-kanye-west-token-negro-for-trump-support/

    I wish black Americans would realise what Democrats really think of them.

  63. It’s the people full of certainty on such inadequate grounds that I’m picking on.

    Sure, but it is tiresome to constantly hear this being associated with ‘religion’.

  64. thefrolickingmole

    Bloke making the quote was one of the fools, but still a nice quote.

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell
    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/bertrand_russell_121392

    Russell opposed rearmament against Nazi Germany. In 1937 he wrote in a personal letter: “If the Germans succeed in sending an invading army to England we should do best to treat them as visitors, give them quarters and invite the commander and chief to dine with the prime minister.”

  65. OldOzzie

    A load of Kabul: Christopher Pyne claim rejected – By Rory Callinan

    Defence Minister Christopher Pyne’s claims that insurgents had attacked an Australian base and a protected area in the Afghanistan capital of Kabul days before his ­official visit to the city last month have been rejected by military officials in both countries.

    In a radio interview last week, Mr Pyne described his trip to the “very dangerous war zone” of Kabul and detailed attacks on the Camp Qargha base and in the protected zone in the capital in the lead-up to his arrival.

    “It’s a war zone and it’s a very dangerous one. There were eight terrorist attacks in the area around the protected part of Kabul in the 72 hours before I got there,” Mr Pyne told Fiveaa radio in Adelaide on October 3.

    “Missiles fired at our camp at Camp Qargha on the 19th of September, which thankfully didn’t cause any casualties but did a bit of damage.”

    Military officials contradicted Mr Pyne’s claims. Both the NATO-led Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan and the Australian Defence Force said yesterday there were no attacks on the dates cited by Mr Pyne.

    Resolute Support’s spokesman, Commander Grant Neeley, said there had not been an attack on Camp Qargha — home for a large contingent of Australians and soldiers from other allied countries — on September 19.

    An ADF spokesman said: “Defence has no reports of direct or indirect fire in the vicinity of Camp Qargha on or around September 19, 2018.”

    The ADF spokesman said there had been one reported instance of “indirect fire” in the immediate vicinity of Qargha on September 11. “No Australian personnel were injured in this incident and appropriate force protection actions were taken at the time,’’ he said.

    The claim of attacks in the protected zone of Kabul were also not confirmed. Resolute Support press officer Debra Richardson said Resolute Support had no record of any terrorist attacks in Kabul just before September 28.

    Sergeant Richardson also said they had no records of any such incident involving “indirect or direct” fire in or around Camp Qargha on September 11.

    Mr Pyne yesterday stuck by his claims, saying he had been told of recent terrorist attacks and a strike at Camp Qargha on September 11 and a strike nearby on September 19. “Australia’s servicemen and women in Afghanistan are operating in an extremely dangerous environment,” he said.

    “We cannot be complacent about the risk they face just because they are in training and mentoring roles, and just because we have thankfully not had a death on operations for some time. This was reinforced during my visit from what I saw and what I was told, which included recent terrorist attacks and a strike at Camp Qargha (September 11) and another strike nearby (September 19). As Minister for Defence, one of my roles is to convey to the public the dangerous environment our servicemen and women are in. They deserve our respect and our thanks. I want to ensure that their service to our country is widely understood.”

    Mr Pyne declined to reveal his source for the information.

    The ADF rarely highlights attacks to avoid causing distress to families of soldiers on the bases or to give kudos to insurgents.

    Opposition defence spokesman Richard Marles took a swipe at Mr Pyne over the comments. “The trouble with operational details is they can get in the way of a good story,” he said.

    ADF chief Angus Campbell accompanied Mr Pyne on the trip, which involved meeting troops over dinner on September 28 at Camp Grant, at Kabul inter­national airport. Mr Pyne then had a barbecue lunch with troops at Camp Qargha about 9km to the west of the airport and home to troops from a variety of nations supporting the NATO-led mission. The majority of the approximately 300 ADF members are housed at the base, which is also the site of the Afghan military’s officer training academy the Marshal Fahim National Defence University, nicknamed “Duntroon in the desert”.

    Numerous politicians including prime ministers have visited the camp as have entertainers such as comedians Mick Molloy and Anthony “Lehmo” Lehmann and rock band 28 Days, who performed at the base in 2015.

    The base is considered a prime target by insurgents. In January, Islamic State militants attacked soldiers guarding the external walls of the university, resulting in the death of 11 Afghan troops and the handful of attackers.

    Last year, a suicide bomber on foot detonated an explosives vest outside the front gate of the academy, killing 15 Afghan officers who were leaving the base.

    And in 2014, Camp Qargha was the location of an insider attack by a Taliban-trained Afghan soldier that claimed the life of the highest-ranking US military officer to die in Afghanistan. Following the 2014 attack, security was tightened inside the base.

    This would not be the first time a politician has made controversial statements relating to war zone visits.

    In 2008, Hillary Clinton claimed she had landed under sniper fire in Bosnia in 1996. She said there was supposed “to have been some kind of greeting ceremony at the airport but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into our vehicles to get to our base”. It later emerged the then first lady and her party had been greeted on the tarmac by beaming US and Bosnian officials and an eight-year-old girl who read her a poem in English — a scenario backed up by CBS news footage. She later clarified the situation saying she “misspoke”.

    From the Comments

    Love that photo. Spot the waste of space.

    – I know Pyne likes to be noticed especially when there are cameras around (which actually doesn’t make him that different from most MPs) but did someone in the Defence Department advise the Minister on the appropriate dress for the day? If there had been an attack on Camp Qargha that day, he would have made the perfect target. Stands out like I’m sure he wanted to. Didn’t think that one through did you Christopher?

    – I often wonder do these politicians stop and wonder why most Australians don’t have a very high opinion of them.

    – The mincing poodle does fake news to show how brave he is not.

    – Perhaps we ought to start calling Christopher ‘Hillary’.

  66. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2836543, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:27 am
    Racist………………a little but increasing.

    Sexist…………………..yes, increased massively, lately.

    My transhomoislamophobia is getting out of hand.

  67. Mother Lode

    Look at the disgusting reaction to Trump’s election by nearly all of our reps, but especially Turnbull’s.

    That was Trumble at his most Trumblist, and therefore at his least Prime Ministerial.

    The fathead didn’t even have the sense to consider he would have to be dealing with this guy.

    Trump is diplomatic enough to know that you speak kindly to people you will be working with – like Xi, for example.

    Okay, my opinion of Trumble as a politician, as a mammal, and as a thinker of any sort is so low that he could walk under a dog turd without even having to lean over.

    But is there anyone in the know as to whether he was good at business (as opposed to lucky, which can happen). He had the capital to invest in Ozemail, was that all from law-talking and slithering about in Goldman Sachs?

  68. OldOzzie

    Bushkid
    #2836556, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:53 am

    struth
    #2836550, posted on October 11, 2018 at 9:31 am
    Last night we had an event outside.

    We used to call them storms.

    It’s all in the language, isn’t it?

    Yes, it’s all getting rather silly, actually. When ordinary weather is called an “event”, and 35mm of rain over a day is “heavy”. One memorable “event” I experienced in Darwin years ago saw some 400mm fall in a few hours. That was just a typical wet season storm. Truly awesome to watch as it happened at night with magnificent lightning etc, but and “event”? Nah, just the Top End doing what it does in summer.

    A notable event was the great Sydney flood which occurred on 6 August 1986 (unusual in that month) and dumped a record 327.6 mm (12.90 in) on the city in 24 hours.

  69. struth

    I am a bit confused about my racism though………………..

    It was born from others hating me based on the fact that I am a white male.

    Unfortunately many white people hate me being white?

    What is a good racist supposed to do in that case?

  70. struth

    But is there anyone in the know as to whether he was good at business (as opposed to lucky, which can happen). He had the capital to invest in Ozemail, was that all from law-talking and slithering about in Goldman Sachs?

    Did he ever run his own business?
    That’s the only measurement required.
    The rest is “investing”

  71. OldOzzie

    Drought Co-ordinator unsure where $50m for drought-affected farmers is going – By Sascha O’Sullivan


    Drought Co-ordinator Major General Stephen Day has said he does not know where the approximately $50 million donated to drought-affected farmers is going.

    The Drought Co-ordinator was unable to answer how many farms were affected by the drought in an interview with Alan Jones on 2GB this morning.

    Farmers are enduring one of the worst droughts in living memory, having endured the driest September since rainfall records began. Crops across the country are failing, having crippling effects on farmers.

    NSW farmers have been hit hardest by drought, with 100% of the state drought-declared, and 16.7% in severe drought.

    “I think that is one of the key problems that we face across the country, there is a lack of fidelity of information on the ground level to advise government at all levels on what they should be doing,” said Maj Gen Day.

    “We’ve got a pretty good handle — the government has a pretty good handle on the number of regions that are drought affected,” he continued, avoiding Jones’ question as to whether he knew what type of farms were most impacted and what those farms’ specific needs were.

    Maj Gen day said it was a “very emotional experience out there” but did not know where the money that had been raised by various charities was going.

    “It’s not my money … you make a good point, I don’t know how many charities there are.”

    He said that the best information he had was that $50 million was raised across the country, and only $30 million had gone to farmers. The money that had been distributed was thanks to the efforts of the Country Women’s Association and National Farmers Federation, he said.

    Jones grilled Major General Day on why farmers were being forced through bureaucratic hoops in order to access the money, with forms that had 197 questions in order to gain access to programs that could help cover costs.

    Jones said his show took almost 20 calls during the ad break from listeners “wanting to throw their radios through the wall listening to that bloke (Major General Day)”.

  72. .

    Let’s not go nuts. The goal of an ambitious business owner is to be successful enough to become a hands-off, silent director living off divs and a salary, whilst an up and comer runs their business.

    That is, to graduate into an investor.

  73. Mother Lode

    Russell opposed rearmament against Nazi Germany. In 1937 he wrote in a personal letter: “If the Germans succeed in sending an invading army to England we should do best to treat them as visitors, give them quarters and invite the commander and chief to dine with the prime minister.”

    I remember reading an anecdote where Russell was in the dock on some charge or other for speaking against the war in WW1.

    A common tactic (apparently) used in the courts in such cases was to confront the accused with a hypothetical where they surely could not maintain their pacifist convictions.

    The QC asked what he would do if he saw a German soldier raping your sister.

    Russell replied that he would try to squeeze himself between.

  74. struth

    Malcom is good at business of corruption.
    Funny business.
    Investing in things they pull levers in government to win from.

    A sort of corporatism, as Nigel Farage would call it.
    Yet never the business owner or manager.
    I would call it corruption.

  75. struth

    Let’s not go nuts. The goal of an ambitious business owner is to be successful enough to become a hands-off, silent director living off divs and a salary, whilst an up and comer runs their business.

    That is, to graduate into an investor.

    What are you talking about, dot?

    You know you don’t have to own and run a business before you can be an investor.

    So your point is irrelevant.

  76. DrBeauGan

    Sure, but it is tiresome to constantly hear this being associated with ‘religion’.

    It’s pretty obvious that worship of the state is widespread, increasing, associated with beliefs not based on evidence such as AGM and the innate virtue of those we used to consider perverts and pity. Moreover that the purpose of the beliefs is to justify group activities to publicise said beliefs and give purpose and meaning to the lives of the converts.

    That makes it a religion in my book. And it’s currently making more converts than yours.

    I don’t regard this last as a good thing. I’m not big on faith, too many loonies have oodles of it. But it’s rather apparent that, like cultures, some are much better than others.

  77. Senile Old Guy

    A BAKERY run by a Christian family in Northern Ireland on Wednesday won a landmark case in Britain’s highest court over its refusal to make a cake decorated with the words “Support Gay Marriage”. The Supreme Court upheld the owners’ appeal against a May decision that found them guilty of discriminating against gay rights activist Gareth Lee. The bakery called the ruling a momentous day for religious freedom in Britain while Lee condemned it as a profound blow for civil rights. “I paid my money, my money was taken and then a few days later it was refused. That made me feel like a second-class citizen,” he told reporters after listening to the verdict.

    Gareth Lee, “gay rights activist”, is deliberately targeting conservative Christians with lawfare. This is entirely predictable (and was predicted). More from the report:

    “The bakery would have refused to supply this particular cake to anyone, whatever their personal characteristics,” court president Lady Hale said in delivering the majority opinion. “There was no discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation.” Lady Hale also ruled that the bakery had not breached the customer’s right to protection against discrimination on the grounds of political beliefs. “The objection was not to Mr Lee because he, or anyone with whom he associated, held a political opinion supporting gay marriage,” she said. “The objection was to being required to promote the message on the cake. “It was not as if he were being refused a job, or accommodation, or baked goods in general, because of his political opinion… it is more akin to a Christian printing business being required to print leaflets promoting an atheist message.”

    Very sensible (and rare, these days). In other terms, it would be “compelled speech”:

    The compelled speech doctrine sets out the principle that the government cannot force an individual or group to support certain expression. Thus, the First Amendment not only limits the government from punishing a person for his speech, it also prevents the government from punishing a person for refusing to articulate, advocate, or adhere to the government’s approved messages.

    But gay activists will continue to try to bully people to support them.

    On this issue, Bolt is simply wrong:

    But here is what it failed to add in its report, leaked on Wednesday: such schools should then not get a single dollar of taxpayer money. No to state funding for bigots.

    Utter bs. It is not “state funding”. The state has no money. It is taxpayers money. People who send their children to private schools are still taxed to support public schools.

  78. .

    …and you don’t have to be the manager of your own business to be an entrepreneur.

  79. OldOzzie

    SMSF minimum balance won’t work – James Kirby – Wealth Editor

    Emboldened by a mood for re-regulation sweeping the market, the corporate regulator has raised the controversial idea of a minimum dollar balance for self-managed super funds.

    The idea that SMSFs should have a minimum balance to protect consumers continues to gain credence because we get regular evidence that some investors are taken for a ride by dodgy advisers, especially in the property market.

    But here’s the thing: minimum balances do nothing to protect these people. The motive to try and make money easily without examining the details observes no financial limits — naive investors are as likely to hand $1 million over to a charlatan as $100,000.

    Likewise, any argument that you need to have an as-yet-undefined minimum in super to save yourself from fees is leaky. Self-directed investors can cut fees to the absolute minimum if they design their funds simply — for example, if exchange-traded funds and cash were used as a core mix then such funds could have fees as low as anything else on the market, including industry funds.

    At its worst putting a dollar minimum on SMSF balances discriminates against self-reliant private investors who aspire to building wealth — equally it inadvertently herds more people into larger funds.

    The principle that a certain amount of money is somehow a criterion for smarter behaviour is a fallacy, yet it cuts across the investment sector.

    For example, the principle is already in place in determining who can be a “sophisticated investor” — the only investors allowed to access wholesale investments such as private equity, specialist funds and most bonds.

    To qualify as a sophisticated investor you must either have gross income of $250,000 over the previous two years or have investable assets of $2.5m. The dollar criteria on sophisticated investors is stupid: a fool who inherits $2.5m can qualify, while someone with a PhD in finance earning $200,000 a year won’t make the cut.

    The regulator, the Australian Securities & Investments Commission, raised the concept of a formal dollar limit for SMSFs at a recent joint parliamentary committee (on corporations and financial services) where it was asked for suggestions to improve consumer protection in SMSFs.

    ASIC suggested: “Consideration could be given to prohibiting limited-recourse borrowing and/or mandating a minimum SMSF balance.”

    It is understood ASIC is also mulling whether there should be something of an “entrance examination” for trustees of an SMSF. The idea comes as the finance industry is struggling to lift the education standards of financial advisers.

    In principle the idea of an entrance exam for SMSFs is sound. Certainly there should be one person within any SMSF who has a core qualification — SMSFs can have four members and this is due to expand soon to six. The issue will be to get the tone and balance of such a test correct.

    With strict new admission standards due to be introduced by the government’s new Financial Adviser Standards and Ethics Authority, ASIC also told the committee it could be appropriate to require specialist training for advisers who wish to advise on SMSFs. But it is worth pointing out that FASEA is currently consumed in a major struggle as older, experienced but poorly qualified advisers resist new FASEA standards.

    Either way having the SMSF sector based on knowledge levels rather than dollar levels is a step in the right direction.

    From the Comments

    – We don’t need an “ entry exam” to run an SMSF. Courses on everything from spraying weeds to running an SMSF don’t work.

  80. .

    Gareth Lee, “gay rights activist”, is deliberately targeting conservative Christians with lawfare. This is entirely predictable (and was predicted).

    …and I told you that it was entirely predictable that the law would ultimately go against him (or more correctly, that it should as it is written).

    One of the few good things to come out of the EU was some of the human rights law that has become British common law in terms of general human rights law and administrative law. To some extent it has constrained the notion of plenary Parliamentary power as well.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    Interesting test for a Murdoch kiddie:

    James Murdoch in line to replace Musk as Tesla chairman: FT (via Drudge today)

    (Reuters) – Outgoing Twenty-First Century Fox Inc (FOXA.O) Chief Executive James Murdoch is the lead candidate to replace Elon Musk as Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) chairman, the Financial Times reported on Wednesday, citing two people briefed on the discussions.

    I suspect James is a bit of a lefty climate tragic, which would make Tesla nigh on irrestistible. But there’s a catch:

    Tesla Has 143 Days To Defuse Its $11.5 Billion Ticking Debt Bomb (10 Oct)

    As of today, the company has 143 days until material amounts of debt start coming due according to regulatory filings and a new report by Bloomberg. While that may seem like a long time for the company to figure out a solution, Tesla will likely be sweating that the rising rate environment will be ratcheting up the pressure even more.

    You have to think that Tesla is getting near to a car crash, between poor reliability, production problems, competition and no actual global warming. So does James go down with the ship or does he demur from taking a hospital pass?

    We’ll see if he has his dad’s instincts…

  82. .

    The regulator, the Australian Securities & Investments Commission, raised the concept of a formal dollar limit for SMSFs at a recent joint parliamentary committee (on corporations and financial services) where it was asked for suggestions to improve consumer protection in SMSFs.

    Corporatism no longer lurks in the shadows.

    This is just shilling for toadies.

  83. Rae

    There are no large audiences on Sky News.

    Correct. And Bolt preaches to the converted, those who have already swallowed the snake oil being sold by his guests.

  84. DrBeauGan

    Mother Lode
    #2836568, posted on October 11, 2018 at 10:14 am
    Russell opposed rearmament against Nazi Germany. In 1937 he wrote in a personal letter: “If the Germans succeed in sending an invading army to England we should do best to treat them as visitors, give them quarters and invite the commander and chief to dine with the prime minister.”

    I remember reading an anecdote where Russell was in the dock on some charge or other for speaking against the war in WW1.

    A common tactic (apparently) used in the courts in such cases was to confront the accused with a hypothetical where they surely could not maintain their pacifist convictions.

    The QC asked what he would do if he saw a German soldier raping your sister.

    Russell replied that he would try to squeeze himself between.

    That wasn’t Russell, it was a well known homosexual.

    Lytton-Strachey? Can’t recall off hand. He was going to “interpose his body” between them.

  85. struth

    Bolta lost the plot years ago.

    Remember, he was a lefty, and although he became disorientated with them, and has been an overall benefit to the cause of common sense, he still heads back to his natural sheeple home ground every now and then.

    I am of the mind about Bolta that I would never really have a go at him compared to others who do much less for the cause than he has done.
    But he’s not the messiah.

  86. .

    Rae
    #2836579, posted on October 11, 2018 at 10:25 am

    There are no large audiences on Sky News.

    Correct. And Bolt preaches to the converted, those who have already swallowed the snake oil being sold by his guests.

    Which guests and what do you call snake oil?

    No, don’t answer that.

    Spend time with your family.

  87. OldOzzie

    Keeping in today’s Topic of Rainfall

    Population needs vary like rainfall says Scott Morrison</strong> – Rachel Baxendale

    Scott Morrison says it makes about as much sense to talk about average rainfall across Australia as it does to talk about average population growth, arguing that different parts of the country have different needs.

    The Prime Minister refused to say whether there was a figure he wanted immigration to drop to, saying Australia had already seen the permanent intake fall to just over 160,000 in the past 12 months, or roughly the same level as it was when the Howard government left office in 2007.

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton yesterday refused to rule out lowering the cap on permanent migration from 190,000, saying the government’s population policy was a “work in progress”.

    Mr Dutton’s comments came after Population Minister Alan Tudge on Tuesday refused to say whether this year’s migration intake would be lower than the 162,417 people approved in the past 12 months, and after NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday asked for the 100,000 people temporary and permanent migrants coming to NSW each year to be reduced to a Howard-era 45,000.

    Mr Morrison said Australia already had a cap on permanent migration.

    “We don’t have a target. We changed that a while ago, and what this does is largely respond to demand,” he told ABC radio.

    “What we want to do is make sure particularly that the temporary migration program, now that is what has been driving population growth.

    “More than 40 per cent of population growth in Australia has been as a result of temporary migration.

    “Just under 40 per cent has basically been natural increase, and only around 20 per cent of it has been permanent migration, and so managing temporary migration is the key to managing population growth, and that’s actually where you’ve got the most levers, that’s why we’ve been talking about using the migration program to back in state and territory plans where they want to see population spread in a different way than it is now, to get people to the places they want them, and to ensure that where congestion is a big issue, like in Sydney or in Melbourne, or I would even say the Central Coast of NSW where I was yesterday, then we can alleviate that pressure.”

    Mr Morrison said it was necessary to provide different solutions for different parts of Australia.

    “What I’m saying, it’s a bit like average rainfall is about as useful as the statistic of average population growth,” he said.

    “What I’m talking about is managing where the population goes, where the temporary migration goes, and that means you can maintain a healthy migration program, but what you’re doing is making sure that it’s getting to the places that you need it, just like you need rainfall where you need it.

    “There’s no point talking about national averages. You’ve got to talk about, ‘What’s the population growth in Melbourne? What’s the population growth in Adelaide, or in Western Australia?’

    “In both of those states they’re places where they want more people.

    “I was down in Tasmania just last weekend. I mean they have a plan to lift the population of that state, and we want our migration program to support it, but you’ve got to have a policy for Sydney, you’ve got to have a policy for Melbourne, for southeast Queensland, for Cairns, for Townsville, and that’s what our population policies are about.

    “I mean just to talk about figures at a headline level, I think can be very superficial and be very misleading, and I don’t think that’s the way you solve congestion problems in cities where you need to do that, or solving the need for population in other cities, other areas where those towns, those regions are urgently looking for it.”

  88. Senile Old Guy

    Gay rights activist Gareth Lee ordered the cake for a private party marking the end of Northern Ireland’s anti-homophobia week. But he had ordered it from Ashers Baking Company, which unknown to him was run by a couple with strong conservative religious views (their bakery’s name came from a Bible verse).

    “unknown to him”. Sure.

    Mr Lee then bought a similar cake elsewhere, but made a complaint to the Equality Commission, which decided to support his claim.

    So it was the “Equality Commission” (shades of Orwell) that really pushed this. Rather similar to our own Human Rights Commission, which ignores human rights issues in certain groups and goes after old white men.

  89. struth

    Correct. And Bolt preaches to the converted, those who have already swallowed the snake oil being sold by his guests.

    Well, that’s the majority of Australians, as is always the case.

    No one is swallowing anything.
    We aren’t the tribal side.
    We just killed off Turnbull.
    Sco Mo and the entire liberal party next.

    The truth is, you imbecile, that Bolt was the response, not the catalyst.

    As is the founding of all the minor right wing (type) parties.
    The majority hate leftism and don’t want to listen the socialist propaganda they are forced to pay for, from the ABC and SBS.

    Bolt and co are products to supply a market.
    A market already very well established in this country.

  90. 132andBush

    Struth,
    No, I’m Green.
    You’d be looking at another $5k minimum on a yellow machine at those hours.

  91. struth

    Scott Morrison says it makes about as much sense to talk about average rainfall across Australia as it does to talk about average population growth, arguing that different parts of the country have different needs.

    Watchout…………………………….Bullshit incoming!

    FMD, that was a load.

  92. JC

    Councils charge $100 to allow placing a skip on the nature strip? China, please take us over!

  93. struth

    So John isn’t so Deere?

  94. It’s pretty obvious that worship of the state is widespread, increasing, associated with beliefs not based on evidence such as AGM and the innate virtue of those we used to consider perverts and pity. Moreover that the purpose of the beliefs is to justify group activities to publicise said beliefs and give purpose and meaning to the lives of the converts.

    If they ‘worship the state’ why are they so critical of the current government? Wouldn’t you be expecting them to kowtow to their authority? No, no, this isn’t ‘religion’ at all. Your characterization is far too glib and convenient. You want to quarantine the obvious fact that many atheists and scientists are the one’s propounding AGW in the community, as well as the nonsense you mention re gender and sexuality.

  95. JC

    Judicial Watch really does the Lord’s work. They’re like a new version of the Crusaders.

    HUGE: Hillary Clinton Back in Federal Court Over Emails! Judicial Watch doing the heavy lifting as DOJ protects her. https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/court-sets-hearing-on-motion-to-compel-email-testimony-from-hillary-clinton/
    https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1050031403033739265

    People should donate to Judicial Watch. I am. They appear to be a fabulous outfit, always out there in the open taking the fight to the enemy.

  96. Rae

    you imbecile

    Try to keep it civil.

  97. hzhousewife

    Just got told the following. Govt office in town has clocks on wall, mounted up at about 6 foot. Needed changing for daylight saving, person began to do the job when another person walked by and said, no mate, you can’t do that, you’re reaching above your head, you have to call the electrician to change the time on the clocks.
    Dunno if it’s true but I’m cynical enough to believe that there are rules like this that people follow. Sad. Spare us !!

  98. Top Ender

    In Like Flynn – movie review


    Lame aim misses the mark on Aussie idol

    NEWS reports at the time of shooting In Like Flynn quoted the production budget for this dire Australian period adventure flick as $12 million.

    Not pictured in these stories were photographs of investors kissing their money goodbye. Or setting fire to it.

    Even if In Like Flynn had have been half good as a movie, it is hard to imagine queues forming for a bulldust-coated account of Australian screen idol Errol Flynn’s early days as our very own Indiana Jones.

    Particularly when the old Australian Crawl song Errol got there first, told pretty much the same story inside four minutes, and left us all with something to hum for years to come.

    Releasing an already antiquated curio such as In Like Flynn in 2018 is like asking viewers to spring for a ticket to a movie chronicling that time Paul Hogan painted the whole of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

    According to Flynn’s fanciful memoirs — a dodgy blueprint for a movie if ever there was one — his pre-fame years were packed full of neardeath encounters with cannibals in Papua New Guinea, cut-throat Irish gangsters, renegade Chinese drug cartels and, umm, a corrupt Townsville mayor.

    Not to mention the hundreds of women who just couldn’t resist Flynn (whose fabled charisma eludes the range of actor Thomas Cocquerel, pictured above) as soon as they laid eyes on him.

    If the source material is an obvious myth, the movie version, which also includes a yachting odyssey in search of lost gold, is a tone-deaf mess. Avoid.

    Daily Tele complete

  99. .

    I love that billboard phone number for Saul Goodman.

    ARRESTED?

    1 855 WTF POPO

  100. JC

    From their website.

    The woman is a fucking monster (Crooked). Everything she touches turns to shit and she corrupts anyone in her path. If you’re into gender equality and all that, you could make the argument she’s the Antichrist.

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced a federal court ordered a hearing for Thursday, October 11, 2018, on a motion to compel testimony about the email practices of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The order was issued by U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan.

    The development comes in a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit about the controversial employment status of Huma Abedin, former Deputy Chief of Staff to Clinton. The lawsuit, which seeks records regarding the authorization for Abedin to engage in outside employment while employed by the Department of State, was reopened because of revelations about the clintonemail.com system (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)).

    In 2016, Hillary Clinton was required to submit, under oath, written answers to Judicial Watch’s questions. Clinton objected to and refused to answer questions about the creation of her email system; her decision to use the system despite warnings from State Department cybersecurity officials; and the basis for her claim that the State Department had “90-95%” of her emails. Judge Sullivan is considering Judicial Watch’s motion to compel answers to these questions.

    In her responses sent to Judicial Watch and the court on October 13, 2016, Clinton refused to answer three questions and responded that she “does not recall” 20 times concerning her non-government clintonemail.com email system. She preceded her responses by eight “general objections” and two “objections to definitions.” The words “object” or “objection” appear 84 times throughout the 23-page document submitted to the court and Judicial Watch.

    Judge Sullivan will also hear arguments on Judicial Watch’s motion to compel testimony from former State Department Director of Information Resource Management of the Executive Secretariat John Bentel (who asserted his Fifth Amendment right and refused to answer 87 questions at his deposition) and Judicial Watch’s motion to unseal the audiovisual recordings of all depositions. Judicial Watch took the testimony of key Clinton aides and State Department senior officials, including Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, but the videotapes of the depositions are currently under seal.

    “The Clinton email scandal isn’t going away especially as Mrs. Clinton refuses to answer key questions about her conduct,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Judicial Watch uncovered the Clinton email scandal, and since the DOJ and FBI have dropped the ball, is the last best hope for accountability and justice.”

  101. struth

    you imbecile

    Try to keep it civil.

    Stop being an imbecile.

  102. C.L.

    The words “may discriminate in relation to” do not mean “kick out” which is the far left-wing fake news bowdlerisation being trotted out by #MeToo survivor Bill Shorten, the media and the homosexual lobby.

  103. mh

    Ok, there is a hurricane in Florida, but the show must go on.

    LIVE: President Donald J. Trump Rally in Erie, PA 10/10/18

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wqHMA09U7fA

  104. 132andBush

    John is exorbitantly Deere, they all are.

    JD just wear better and have relatively less moving parts.

  105. areff

    That wasn’t Russell, it was a well known homosexual.

    Siegfried Sassoon, if memory serves.

  106. DrBeauGan

    Russell was definitely not homosexual, which would ruin the joke if it had been him in it. I’m not at all sure it was Russell who suggested inviting German soldiers to dine with the prime minister. It sounds more like Shaw. Russell was a pacifist in the first world war but not in the second.

    He was mainly admired because of his Principia Mathematica with Whitehead which proved that 2+2=4 somewhere in volume two. It carried the remark that this result had sometimes been found useful.

  107. Arky;

    The sudden surge in viewers I can see on the dashboard of my video page

    What does this mean? is there a function I am unaware of?
    …and no. I have no idea why anyone would want to see your todger.

  108. H B Bear

    NEWS reports at the time of shooting In Like Flynn quoted the production budget for this dire Australian period adventure flick as $12 million.

    Not pictured in these stories were photographs of investors kissing their money goodbye. Or setting fire to it.

    I’m thinking taxpayers more likely if this turkey is funded the same way as the rest of the welfare bum Australian film industry.

  109. min

    I had friends at Teachers’ college way back in mid 50s who were gay.
    Ten years ago when eldest grand daughter was at a well known Catholic College they had social groups with local Catholic boys’ college ,the leading one in Melbourne. I asked whatever did they talk about with 14/15 yr old boys , she said the gays are really interesting ,. I used to sit with one at her netball matches and chat a very charming young man who is still her friend.
    I am not sure apart from the religion that throws them off buildings if this is a problem . Then I agree with Bolt no funding.

  110. C.L.

    Nick Cummins is now a rapist or something, according to A Current Affair and the wacko Daily Mail:

    Nick Cummins returned to Australia for the first time since the shock Bachelor finale where he refused to pick a winner.

    While escorted by security through Brisbane Airport on Wednesday following his holiday in Papua New Guinea, the 31-year-old snapped at photographers, telling them to ‘get over it’…

    It comes after A Current Affair tracked down Nick on holiday in Papua New Guinea.

    In an exclusive report aired on Wednesday night, journalist Reid Butler ambushed the former Wallaby at a luxury hotel to ask about his decision to dump both finalists during last week’s Bachelor finale.

    A fiery confrontation between Nick and the ACA team, saw him reacting angrily to being caught off guard by a camera crew.

    Reid walked straight up to Nick and said: ‘Can I ask you a few questions about the mess you left back home?’

    ‘Sorry?!’ Nick replied, with a stunned look on his face…

    A Current Affair also covertly recorded footage of Nick unwinding at the resort.

    In the vision, he could be seen relaxing on a sun lounger before chatting with a friend at the hotel bar, seemingly without a care in the world.

    Nick’s public image as a likable Aussie bloke was shattered last week when he shocked the country by choosing no one in the Bachelor finale.

  111. C.L.

    Nick Cummins is now a r-pist or something, according to A Current Affair and the wacko Daily Mail:

    Nick Cummins returned to Australia for the first time since the shock Bachelor finale where he refused to pick a winner.

    While escorted by security through Brisbane Airport on Wednesday following his holiday in Papua New Guinea, the 31-year-old snapped at photographers, telling them to ‘get over it’…

    It comes after A Current Affair tracked down Nick on holiday in Papua New Guinea.

    In an exclusive report aired on Wednesday night, journalist Reid Butler ambushed the former Wallaby at a luxury hotel to ask about his decision to dump both finalists during last week’s Bachelor finale.

    A fiery confrontation between Nick and the ACA team, saw him reacting angrily to being caught off guard by a camera crew.

    Reid walked straight up to Nick and said: ‘Can I ask you a few questions about the mess you left back home?’

    ‘Sorry?!’ Nick replied, with a stunned look on his face…

    A Current Affair also covertly recorded footage of Nick unwinding at the resort.

    In the vision, he could be seen relaxing on a sun lounger before chatting with a friend at the hotel bar, seemingly without a care in the world.

    Nick’s public image as a likable Aussie bloke was shattered last week when he shocked the country by choosing no one in the Bachelor finale.

  112. .

    In Like Flynn, Australia…more good reasons to end corporate welfare right now.

  113. JC

    I missed that. Is it true that Bachelor dude dumped both sheilas? Sounds like a decent show then. The gals must have been horrified because that’s not supposed to happen in 2018 Australia.

  114. mh

    By not choosing any of the Sheilas, that guy has assaulted them emotionally and mentally.

    He is an evil white male.

  115. .

    Nick Cummins singing karaoke on a Wallabies end of year trip (sanitised).

    When I met you last night baby

    I had respect for ya lady
    But now I take it all back

    Leave your number on the cabinet
    And I promise baby, I’ll give ya a call

    Cause I have never
    met a girl
    That I love
    in the whole wide world

  116. JC

    mh
    #2836615, posted on October 11, 2018 at 11:06 am

    By not choosing any of the Sheilas, that guy has assaulted them emotionally and mentally.

    He is an evil white male.

    That’s great. Were they crying seeing their massive self esteem was dented?

  117. DrBeauGan

    If they ‘worship the state’ why are they so critical of the current government? Wouldn’t you be expecting them to kowtow to their authority? No, no, this isn’t ‘religion’ at all. Your characterization is far too glib and convenient. You want to quarantine the obvious fact that many atheists and scientists are the one’s propounding AGW in the community, as well as the nonsense you mention re gender and sexuality.

    You can believe in the virtues of statism and loathe the present government with no difficulty whatever. Many atheists and (bad, pseudo) scientists are propounding AGW. There is nothing that stops an atheist being a blind believer in all sorts of nonsense, and many are. I don’t defend them or seek to quarantine them. Nail the loony bastards by all means.

    You remind me of the guy who said “When I say religion I mean the Christian religion, and when I say Christian, I mean the Church of England!”

    Functionally, leftism is a religion. It has the whole panoply of characteristics, from sin and redemption to sacred rituals. It lacks only a God, and He has been replaced by the state as the source of real, demonstrable power. Lefties can point to their god and its power. Yours has been declared a myth.

  118. .

    It comes after A Current Affair tracked down Nick on holiday in Papua New Guinea.

    You know when journalist scum like this do stunts like this, I don’t mind at all when they get John Saffranned.

  119. DrBeauGan

    Siegfried Sassoon, if memory serves.

    Could be. But I doubt it. I’m pretty sure it was one of the Bloomsbury Buggers.

  120. struth

    If they ‘worship the state’ why are they so critical of the current government?

    Many catholics are critical of the pope.
    The reason they are critical of the government is because they’re not being enough government.

    They are raging “believers” in big government controlling all.
    Just like a Mussie and Islam.

  121. OldOzzie

    China Has Already Lost This War…

    The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is dead. Mexico and Canada have folded. A new agreement, the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), will replace it. While the new agreement maintains the integrity of the North American market, it dramatically changes the rules and tilts the playing field in favor of the United States. In particular, changes in provisions regarding the percentage of North American content required in vehicles imported under the agreement, a mandate for huge increases in minimum wages in Mexico and support for labor unions in Mexico mean that an already resurging American manufacturing base is set to expand even more rapidly.

    All eyes now shift to the ongoing trade war between the United States and China, the world’s two largest economies. Here the news is even better. We have already won.

    Growth in China’s manufacturing sector stalled this September, with export orders falling faster than they have in two years. The Caixin/ Markit Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) for September fell more than expected to 50.0 from 50.6 in August. The index measures the rate of expansion or contraction in an economy, and the neutral 50-mark divides expansion from contraction. What was once the world’s fastest growing economy, destined to overtake the United States at any moment, is now poised, not simply to cool off, but to begin to shrink in size. New export orders from Chinese firms, the all-important indicator of what the future portends, are now shrinking across the board.

  122. .

    Why is the US better off if China is poor?

    a mandate for huge increases in minimum wages in Mexico

    Terrible. This is and only is ever a recipe for unemployment.

  123. Confused Old Misfit

    Why is the US better off if China is poor?

    a mandate for huge increases in minimum wages in Mexico

    Terrible. This is and only is ever a recipe for unemployment.

    You would prefer perhaps that the US was poor and China & Mexico rich?

  124. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Could be. But I doubt it. I’m pretty sure it was one of the Bloomsbury Buggers.

    Don’t have a reference, but wasn’t it Lytton Strachey?

  125. .

    You would prefer perhaps that the US was poor and China & Mexico rich?

    ???

    Bizarre.

    You don’t get rich off minimum wages and the US and Australia’s major trading partner is China.

    Reducing your export base long term is not a good idea.

    On the other hand, Trump has offered the G7 going totally tariff-free. It is up to everyone else to accept the offer.

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA)

    The US Marine Corps Agreement from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Ontario. 😀

  127. Tel

    What was once the world’s fastest growing economy, destined to overtake the United States at any moment, is now poised, not simply to cool off, but to begin to shrink in size.

    Remember in high school where they handed out the “Most Improved Award” ?

    China is that kid.

  128. .

    America’s biggest threat is their massive public debt bomb.

  129. JC

    Someone came up with a libertarian argument death taxes should be 100%. I’ve gotta read up on it later on.

  130. Tom

    What was once the world’s fastest growing economy, destined to overtake the United States at any moment, is now poised, not simply to cool off, but to begin to shrink in size. New export orders from Chinese firms, the all-important indicator of what the future portends, are now shrinking across the board.

    Because everything they do is designed grab raw political power and never let it go, the left is the world capital of unforeseen consequences.

    Everything Trump sets out to achieve is the opposite: change that benefits the American middle class masses with arse-kicking consequences.

    I hope the left never stops thinking Trump is an idiot.

  131. JC

    Yea Tel , I feel really uncomfortable with all these newbies showing up. I was really comfortable when the US, Europe plus Japan were the only places that mattered. Oil price was 18 bucks a barrel. All was good.

  132. DrBeauGan

    Don’t have a reference, but wasn’t it Lytton Strachey?

    That was my recollection, zk2w. But I’m not exactly enamoured of that particular bunch, so had no confidence in it.

  133. thefrolickingmole

    China doesnt seem to have got the “diversity makes us stronger” memo…

    China ‘legalises’ internment camps for million Uighurs
    Laws revised in Xinjiang region to permit ‘education centres’ for ‘people influenced by extremism’

    China’s far north-western region of Xinjiang has “legalised” internment camps where up to one million Muslims are being held.

    Amid sustained international criticism, Chinese authorities have revised legislation to allow the regional government to officially permit the use of “education and training centres” to incarcerate “people influenced by extremism”.

    Chinese authorities deny that the internment camps exist but say petty criminals are sent to vocational “training centres”. Former detainees say they were forced to denounce Islam and profess loyalty to the Communist party in what they describe as political indoctrination camps.

  134. JC

    The major Australian intellectual to discourse at the time was that there were far too many Chinese, Indians and of course Africans. We still seem to be on the “there are too many Africans” shtick. Australians, generally lefties, really seem to have it in for Africans. Hate them for some reason.

  135. H B Bear

    No place for diversity in a one party State.

  136. .

    JC
    #2836631, posted on October 11, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Someone came up with a libertarian argument death taxes should be 100%. I’ve gotta read up on it later on.

    This sort of pisses me off because if you bring up a decent tax system (like how I want a 2% LVT, 10% GST and 5% royalties to shrink down to 1%, 5% and 2.5% over time under a TABOR)…the idea of which is to cut the size of government down from 20% of the GDP with identifying and exploiting efficiencies and removing waste and duplication and over time, down to 10% of GDP or less – and you get Randroids and fever swampers mouth-breathing about how land tax is a form of communism and how I hate private property rights…

  137. struth

    Bizarre.

    You don’t get rich off minimum wages and the US and Australia’s major trading partner is China.

    Reducing your export base long term is not a good idea.

    On the other hand, Trump has offered the G7 going totally tariff-free. It is up to everyone else to accept the offer.

    Here we go……………………….

    This is about what is good for the United States.
    Trump isn’t governing for China or Mexico.
    If he can get Mexicans onto a minimum wage, why wouldn’t he?

    There other countries to trade with other than China, and while they are being supported unfairly by the UN and trading with massive import tariffs, the world would be instantly better off if China was to completely crash and a democracy emerge.
    Letting these evil fucks gain anymore is a recipe for future disaster, so try to get above drooling over a huge market that in the long run, and to some extent now, won’t let you manufacture anything, or grow any food to supply it that it doesn’t control.

  138. JC

    They’ll peak in the next decade Tom. China’s demographic trend is fucking horrendous. It’s worse than Japan and Italy on trend.

  139. DrBeauGan

    I hope the left never stops thinking Trump is an idiot.

    That’s where sane people have an edge, we don’t go around believing things just because we’d like them to be true.

  140. Confused Old Misfit

    M. Dot,
    Taking the material posted and allowing that it is Zerohedge I can’t see where it says that either China or Mexico will be any poorer than they currently are.
    If China can find/create new markets, either foreign or domestic for its output they will suffer no loss.
    If Mexico can do the same and increase its productivity (doubtful I will admit) it may lift itself out of its customary squalor. There is more to the US/Mexico agreement than minimum wages. I do however, agree with your general point on rapid and unsupported increases.
    I can’t see that the US is required to support either China or Australia in any manner other than that which they perceived to be advantageous to themselves.

  141. dopey

    Opera House was going to cost 7 million. Ended up at 100 . Wouldn’t cover the safety training nowadays.

  142. .

    If he can get Mexicans onto a minimum wage, why wouldn’t he?

    Why don’t we mandate that China has a 60 AUD minimum wage?

    How would we be better off?

    Would America be better off with a managed trade agreement with everyone, or taking up Trump’s offer to end most if not all protectionism?

    Letting these evil fucks gain anymore

    If there is a moral choice it is between free trade and none at all, not a predicate to renegotiate managed trade agreement.

  143. struth

    This effing Taylor Swift chick, has she done anything decent?

    Any decent songs?

  144. jupes

    China’s far north-western region of Xinjiang has “legalised” internment camps where up to one million Muslims are being held.

    Good. As bad as China is, you have to admire that they put the national interest first.

  145. struth

    Dot, this may be hard for you to grasp, but again, we must work within the real world, not a fairy tale world that doesn’t, (and never will) exist.

    FMD, It’s like China isn’t a communist country to you.
    What do you think they are all about?
    Playing fair if only Trump would?

  146. .

    Internment camps, White Australia Policy, this blog just keeps on giving.

  147. jupes

    Any decent songs?

    She’s a pop singer. She sings songs for pubescent boys and girls.

    Dot likes her.

  148. Confused Old Misfit

    If there is a moral choice it is between free trade and none at all, not a predicate to renegotiate managed trade agreement.

    That assumes both parties are moral.
    We well know that not to be the case.

  149. .

    jupes
    #2836651, posted on October 11, 2018 at 11:53 am

    Any decent songs?

    She’s a pop singer. She sings songs for pubescent boys and girls.

    Dot likes her.

    Thanks.

    You’re a sad old man that literally supports internment camps for Muslims and the White Australia Policy.

    You actually think that a majority of Australians support your whacko ideas.

  150. Top Ender

    you have to call the electrician to change the time on the clocks

    When I was in Defence I was trapped for a while – about three months, during 2007 – at Canungra base, which is in from the Gold Coast. Absolutely nothing to do on weekends, so when one of the three light globes in the fitting over the snooker table went out this was a major embuggerment.

    The stewards behind the bar – Eurest civvies – refused to change the globe. Not our job; not allowed. They admitted they had access to the storeroom where there were some spares but refused to get one, as we also were not allowed to change them as it was a health and safety issue being electrical yadda yadda.

    A bit of an argument ensued and their senior lady said no way; has to wait until Monday. Whereupon one of us walked over to a wall fitting, unscrewed the cover and took the light globe out. Went and installed it.

    Major paperwork resulted. In the end a directive was issued not to do this and presumably forgotten until the next time.

  151. .

    struth

    Trump has offered totally free trade. Why don’t you attack this?

  152. DrBeauGan

    My disdain for the Bloomsbury Buggers isn’t just their sexual proclivities, I don’t like their literary works either. Wilde wrote arguably the best comedy in the English language, and Joe Orton wrote some very funny black comedies. But homoxuals seem to be uniformly awful when they try to be serious. Wilde’s poetry is repulsive, except possibly his ballad of reading gaol, which is just vulgar,, and his fairy stories ghastly even by the standards of the day.

  153. struth

    Australia, as dumb as a box of rocks , and after putting all it’s eggs in the Chinese basket, is owned in much the same way as China owns the other pacific Islands.
    We need the communists more than they need us.
    And until we break away from the China supporting UN, that will be our complete undoing.

    As the VP said, they thought China was opening up and they were about to join the world, and trade.
    A massive market was there to be had.
    The west drooled.

    But they were wrong.
    He admits that now.

    Seems everybody wanted to overlook the fact.
    THEY”RE BLOODY COMMUNISTS.

  154. Confused Old Misfit

    Trump has offered totally free trade.

    And the ENTIRE WORLD are falling over each other to take him up on the offer!

  155. struth

    I actually saw nothing wrong with the white Australia policy.

    Facts are facts.

    When a young country is established by a western culture, you need it to strongly have that culture embedded before you can risk bringing people in from inferior cultures.
    It just so happens that in those days, white meant mostly western and mostly Christian.

    It needed to happen.
    It obviously didn’t last long enough.

  156. struth

    struth

    Trump has offered totally free trade. Why don’t you attack this?

    Because I see nothing wrong with it.

  157. jupes

    You’re a sad old man that literally supports internment camps for Muslims and the White Australia Policy.

    Well no. I support internment camps in time of war or if the alternative to internment is attacks on citizens. I don’t support the WAP, however I believe it is far superior to the non-discriminatory policy we are running with at the minute.

    You actually think that a majority of Australians support your whacko ideas.

    Again no. Of course the nation would be much better off if they did but there you go.

    You idiot. Haven’t you got some terrorists to count?

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You’re a sad old man that literally supports internment camps for Muslims

    I think internment is a bit of waste of time, mass deportation is far more effective, get all the jihadis out of this country. Since every muslim must support and quietly does support the core tenets of islam, which is jihad, then they all must go. Renouncing isn’t good enough as they are allowed to lie in defence of islam.

  159. Steve trickler

    Some of the greatest air traffic control-radio chatter, ever captured.

    Unable to control altitude
    Unable to control airspeed
    Unable to control heading

    Other than that, everything is A-OK!

    The pilot was very close to ‘lights out.’



  160. Top Ender

    Race and racism is an interesting concept.

    After all, can we really deny:
    – the Japanese are obsessively neat, efficient, and care about beauty
    – the French make great food and wines
    – the Italians are excitable
    – the Indians are inefficient
    – the Brits make good soldiers
    – Kiwis have a funny grasp of the letter “i”

    That’s what makes it interesting going to visit other cultures.

    It would be boring if we were all the same.

    As in 1984:

  161. Tom

    With less than a month to Election Day, the Generic Congressional Ballot is now dead even.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone and online survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters would choose the Democratic candidate if the elections for Congress were held today. Another 45% would opt for the Republican. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and eight percent (8%) are undecided.

    Last week, 47% of voters said they would choose the Democratic candidate while 42% said they would choose the Republican. It is unclear whether the sudden jump to a tie vote is a reflection of the anger surrounding the Kavanaugh confirmation process, but we will continue to watch this in the weeks ahead.

  162. .

    Haven’t you got some terrorists to count?

    You take offence to this because you want policy made on feelings.

  163. Boambee John

    “Just under 40 per cent has basically been natural increase, and only around 20 per cent of it has been permanent migration, and so managing temporary migration is the key to managing population growth, and that’s actually where you’ve got the most levers, that’s why we’ve been talking about using the migration program to back in state and territory plans where they want to see population spread in a different way than it is now, to get people to the places they want them, and to ensure that where congestion is a big issue, like in Sydney or in Melbourne,

    The screams from the metropolitan universities would be delightful to hear if the policy on (theoretically temporary) student visas restricted them to attendance at regional universities only. Lotsa dollars at stake there for the metropolitans, and a big question about the attractiveness of 3 to 5 years at a regional university to a residence seeker.

    Also hard to hide non-attendance at a smaller university.

  164. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Some of the greatest air traffic control-radio chatter, ever captured.

    Story goes that a Lufthansa pilot had been reminded by the control tower that the international language of air traffic control was English, and was having a meltdown.

    “I am a pilot for Germany’s national airline, flying a German registered aircraft, over German territory, about to land at a German facility. I do not understand the need to communicate in English.”

    A veddy, veddy pukka British accent corrected his exercises

    “Because, my dear fellow, you lost the fvcking war, that’s why.”

  165. jupes

    You take offence to this because you want policy made on feelings.

    Says the moron who wants to bring more Muslims to Australia.

  166. thefrolickingmole

    .

    I didnt say the Chinese were doing a good or right thing, just pointed out what they are doing.

    In effect its probably not much difference to what they are doing to the Tibetans, pounding down possible resistance, it is a little different in they are seeking to make it “legal” rather than a directive.

  167. Baldrick

    Thursday’s Cockhead Award 🏆 goes to:

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Richard Branson criticises Australia over climate change, says coal ‘should be a thing of the past’

  168. Boambee John

    Thomas Cocquerel

    To play Errol Flynn? They are pulling our collective legs!

  169. Confused Old Misfit

    air traffic control-radio chatter

    Then there was the British Airways pilot asking for progressive taxi instructions in Hamburg, Germany.

    ATC Ground Control: Are you not familiar with Hamburg? Have you not been here before?
    BAW Pilot: Well, actually old boy I have been here before.
    ATC Ground Control: Then you should know these things!
    BAW Pilot: Trouble was, it was at night, I was in the air and people were shooting at me.

  170. cohenite

    Says the moron who wants to bring more Muslims to Australia.

    Who does, head prefect?

  171. struth

    And then there was the chatter by an Italian in a sinking fishing boat in the English Channel.

    When told over the radio by a well spoken Englishmen from the coast guard that they are sending out their Fokker Friendship……………………………………….he replied, …I don’a wanta you fokker friendship, I wanna you fokker help!

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    AFP raids Home Affairs building over leaks in au pair saga

    Rosie Lewis
    Reporter
    @rosieslewis
    27 minutes ago October 11, 2018

    The Australian Federal Police is reportedly raiding the Department of Home Affairs in Canberra following a number of leaks in the au pair saga that embroiled Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton for weeks.

    A department spokeswoman said it was a matter for the AFP.

    The AFP has been contacted for comment.

    Breaking news, from the Oz.

  173. Mother Lode

    What was once the world’s fastest growing economy, destined to overtake the United States at any moment, is now poised, not simply to cool off, but to begin to shrink in size.

    In the 80’s it was Japan that was the superstar. People spoke in glowing terms about all the reasons they were going to be leaving poor derelict America in the dust.

  174. H B Bear

    How cool would it be if the Keystone Kops actually nailed a leaker? Imagine all the beige cardiganned tax eaters filing into work each day past the shrunken head on a stick outside the front doors,

    Would do wonders for the place.

  175. H B Bear

    Not holding by breath though.

  176. Top Ender
    #2836654, posted on October 11, 2018 at 11:56 am

    When I was in Defence I was trapped for a while – about three months, during 2007 – at Canungra

    I was ‘trapped’ at Canungra for about 4 weeks in 1970. Didn’t get to play any snooker though.

  177. Norman Church

    If Bolt’s position that nobody whose religious beliefs are inconsistent with progressive views should receive “public” money for education purposes is correct, then why stop at education?

    Why should not one’s access to public money for other purposes be made conditional on demonstrating that one’s views are inconsistent with approved doctrine?

    Perhaps we should have a simple orthodoxy test at the Emergency Department of public hospitals. Fail it and you are unceremoniously dumped back onto the street as an undeserving bigot.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    ABC News @abcnews
    Richard Branson criticises Australia over climate change, says coal ‘should be a thing of the past’

    But burning fossil fuels to go into space is ok.

    Inaugural Virgin Galactic Spaceflight Expected In ‘Weeks Not Months,’ Says CEO Richard Branson

    British billionaire Richard Branson says Virgin Galactic — after years of promises and delays — is just weeks away from conducting its first suborbital test flight.

    Branson, the founder and CEO of Virgin Galactic, has been investing in this venture since 2004, but if the comments he made yesterday at the Barclays Asia Forum in Singapore are to be believed, the company is finally on the cusp of entering space.

    Speaking to CNBC, Branson said the company will be in space “within weeks and not months”, adding that Virgin Galactic is “more than tantalisingly close” to conducting its first suborbital test flight.

    Decarbonisation is for the little people.

  179. stackja

    PD leak benefits who? One name comes to mind.

  180. Shy Ted

    “By 2020 no Australian child will go to school to learn anything useful”. Bob Hawke, I think. Maybe Keating. Definitely Rudd, Gillard, Trumble. SloMo working on it. Shorten to make sure it happens. Imagine a school where no-one is judged by effort, achievement or attitude, just some identifying characteristic.

  181. thefrolickingmole

    Ignorant slut calls for the resumption of lynchings, followed by a first class trail.

    A ‘scary time’ for Trump’s boys? It should be, as women have nothing to lose
    Van Badham

    All based on a song by a stupid bint that pretends shes living in “Rapetopia”

    To pop’s familiar 4/4 time, her vocals are as light as a sea breeze while her lyrics catalogue the routines of terrified self-protection into which women who live in the west are inured.

    It’s a destabilising juxtaposition. “I can’t walk to my car late at night while on the phone,” she sings, “I can’t open up my windows when I’m home alone, I can’t go to a bar without a chaperone and I can’t wear a miniskirt if it’s the only one I own … ” Then comes the chorus, with a punch: “But sure is a scary time for boys!”
    Trump’s rightwing mythology of confected male victimhood is ruined by the song’s procession of false equivalencies. “It’s really tough when your reputation’s on the line and any woman you’ve assaulted could turn up anytime,” she sings.


    But of course the real victim is Van…

    I’m older than Lab Stewart, and Australian – but I don’t go to bars alone, answer the door in silk pyjamas, jog at night with headphones in, as she describes, and for her same reasons: because the threat of sudden male violence is a tangible omnipresence that all women are taught from childhood to fear.


    Credible in Van fathead land means “people who she named as witnesses denied it happened”

    Their man has been credibly accused of being a liar and credibly accused of sexual assault; promoting Kavanaugh to a placement of judgment over others weakens the authority of that personal judgment but erodes faith, trust and respect in systems of authority itself.

    There is literally nothing, not one single thing which would reason van out of the froth of ignorance and stupidity shes got herself into.

  182. Andreas

    .
    #2836650, posted on October 11, 2018 at 11:52 am
    Internment camps, White Australia Policy, this blog just keeps on giving.

    A bit rich coming from someone who advocated the sale of children…

  183. Senile Old Guy

    If Bolt’s position that nobody whose religious beliefs are inconsistent with progressive views should receive “public” money for education purposes is correct, then why stop at education?

    Bolt has seriously lost the plot, although he was always a bit wet. As I said earlier, there is no “public” money. It is all extorted from taxpayers.

  184. Norman Church

    Senile Old Guy – #2836695, posted on October 11, 2018 at 1:06 pm

    “there is no “public” money. It is all extorted from taxpayers.”

    Quite so.

  185. thefrolickingmole

    Reminder: Van Badhan considers this a just outcome of an accusation.

    Rape of white women common accusation
    The four Boone County victims named in the Alabama memorial are Parker Mayo, Theodore Daniels, Charles Dickenson and Sam Scales.

    Three of the four, excluding Dickenson, were accused of rape. About 25 percent of the 4,400 memorialized African-American lynching victims allegedly committed rape, according to the Equal Justice Initiative’s 2015 “Lynching in America” report.

  186. Mother Lode

    I put a comment up at Bolta’s over the school thingy – didn’t get put up though. Possibly because I drew a parallel with his being hauled before the courts for having opinions deemed unacceptable.

    He is turning into a bit of a damp squib. His mortification at coloured lights being shone on the Opera House, and now on the right of religious schools to not offer service if it is inconsistent with the very beliefs they are seeking to impart.

  187. DrBeauGan

    ABC News @abcnews
    Richard Branson criticises Australia over climate change, says coal ‘should be a thing of the past’

    Richard Branson should be a thing of the past. It’s no use flashing fashionable idiocies to establish your street cred when you’re a doddery old fart.

  188. Senile Old Guy

    Trump’s rightwing mythology of confected male victimhood is ruined by the song’s procession of false equivalencies. “It’s really tough when your reputation’s on the line and any woman you’ve assaulted could turn up anytime,” she sings.

    From van Badham. Remember, there is no evidence to suport Ford’s claim about Kavanaugh, she cannot remember significant relevant details, four people have explicitly denied that the assault took place but she can remember that it was Kavanaugh.

  189. Shy Ted

    NEWS reports at the time of shooting In Like Flynn quoted the production budget for this dire Australian period adventure flick as $12 million.
    Naturally The Guardian loves it. In Like Flynn review – Errol Flynn biopic is a delightful, rapid-fire romp.
    Wait til they see how Errrol treats the ladies.

  190. Gab

    Richard Branson still owns a fleet of airplanes that cross the world spewing CO2 and using fossil fuel, yeah?

  191. Mother Lode

    Lagavulin 16yo vs Lagavulin 12yo.

    Discuss.

  192. Roger

    [Bolt] is turning into a bit of a damp squib.

    In my experience you can never really rely on a bloke who likes opera.

  193. thefrolickingmole

    Ok the prosecutors are accepting bribes from Harvey, thats the only explanation for leaving this pile of shit on the charges.

    Mr Weinstein and the woman, whose name has not been released, exchanged 400 emails during the “weeks and years after the alleged rape,” the papers state.

    In a February 2017 email sent nearly four years after the alleged sex attack, she wrote, “I love you, always do. But I hate feeling like a booty call. :)”

    Assistant District lawyer Joan Illuzzi-Orbon countered in court papers that none of the emails show the accuser denying that she was raped and insisted the presentation to the grand jury was fair and complete.

    So what happens when Harvey walks? Does he seem the sort who will let bygones be bygones or more the scorched earth type?

  194. Cactus

    Lagavulin 16yo vs Lagavulin 12yo.

    Discuss.

    The answer you are looking for is Ardbeg 10yo.

  195. .

    Andreas
    #2836694, posted on October 11, 2018 at 1:06 pm

    What I propose is morally superior to the current adoption system which is a racket for the government (up to 11k AUD for an application) and plus what ticket clippers (lawyers, judges) receive whilst the birth mother gets zilch.

  196. C.L.

    Unexplained wealth laws can be justified:

    The court of appeal has lifted a veil of secrecy to allow the publication of details of the UK’s first unexplained wealth order (UWO), in which the National Crime Agency alleges that stolen funds were used to buy a £11.5m, five-bedroom property in Knightsbridge, 100 yards from the doors of Harrods. The court heard that Hajiyeva spent £16.3m at Harrods between 2006 and 2016.

    The NCA also claims suspect cash funded the £10.5m purchase of Mill Ride golf and country club in Ascot via a company based in Guernsey. The Knightsbridge home was allegedly bought via a firm in the British Virgin Islands, which the NCA alleges is controlled by Hajiyeva.

    Hajiyeva’s lawyers had convinced a judge to impose reporting restrictions that prevented the woman, her husband, his bank or their nationality from being reported. Until the lifting of the anonymity order on Wednesday lunchtime, Hajiyeva could only be referred to as “Mrs A”.

    Hajiyeva is the wife of Jahangir Hajiyev, 57, the former chairman of the state-owned International Bank of Azerbaijan. In 2016 he was sentenced to 15 years in jail for defrauding the bank out of up to 5bn manat (£2.2bn).

    Report.

    Politically, I think Whitehall is inaugurating the new UWOs by pursuing an egregious criminal. That sells the concept. Down the track, they’ll be going after geezers with a London lock-up and a Jag.

  197. Tintarella di Luna

    Then there was the British Airways pilot asking for progressive taxi instructions in Hamburg, Germany.

    ATC Ground Control: Are you not familiar with Hamburg? Have you not been here before?
    BAW Pilot: Well, actually old boy I have been here before.
    ATC Ground Control: Then you should know these things!
    BAW Pilot: Trouble was, it was at night, I was in the air and people were shooting at me.

    The way my Spitfire friends told it BAW Pilot: Trouble was it was at night and we didn’t land.

  198. Jo Smyth

    The best place to live is WA. You are never more than a hour away from escaping to the Bush, pitching a tent or opening the caravan and you can forget about all the d…heads in the world who are trying to ruin your life. The only things you have to contend with are the snakes and the spiders and a handy spade can deal with them. Unfortunately a spade doesn’t work when you get back to reality.

  199. .

    In a February 2017 email sent nearly four years after the alleged sex attack, she wrote, “I love you, always do. But I hate feeling like a booty call. :)”

    I told you it was a load of crap.

    He’s also been charged with…sex trafficking. Okay, without coercing these women into a “sex ring”, he must have had willing participants, then why haven’t they been charged with solicitation? If he coerced them, where is the proof? If he didn’t do it the rumbling, where are his co-accused?

    The (grand) jury is not being shown exculpatory evidence, his attorneys are going to have a fucking field day even if he’s convicted it will be quashed (if it even proceeds pas the voir dire). The ADA fucked the whole thing up. I see where mole is coming from. It looks like a fuck up so bad it is almost intentional.

    She should be hit with some disciplinary charges, sacked and sued probably debarred at a minimum. Her boss screwed up as well. That particular charge ought to have been withdrawn. No one could honestly view that evidence and have bona fide belief that their prosecution had a reasonable chance of success.

    I hope he destroys the DA’s office, cops, Hollywood, Opal etc.

  200. .

    National Crime Agency alleges that stolen funds

    Then gather evidence, charge them with theft, prosecute and follow the proceeds of crime.

    Governments just want to abandon rule of law and due process; C.L. has even outlined how lazy and overzealous prosecutors have become before.

  201. Nick

    Lagavulin 16yo vs Lagavulin 12yo.
    Discuss.

    A bottle shop I know of is selling Johnny Walker 18 at $90 a bottle. Very smooth and some $40 cheaper than Dan Murphy.

  202. Nick

    From the SMH no less. Sounds like fun:

    In a disused rail yard in Melbourne’s west, zombies are pursuing a young man. Just as he’s about to be devoured, two “superwogs” – draped in gold chains and puffer jackets – pull up in an oversized ute and let him in. But as they disappear in a cloud of dust, the man scolds his rescuers for their “problematic” utterance of the word “zombie”.

    “They actually prefer to be called ‘the living deceased’,” he says, using the smarmy phraseology of the woke Twitter crowd. The car screeches to a halt and the man is shoved out the door, into the clutches of the undead.

  203. Nick

    From the SMH no less. Sounds like fun:

    In a disused rail yard in Melbourne’s west, zombies are pursuing a young man. Just as he’s about to be devoured, two “superw**s” – draped in gold chains and puffer jackets – pull up in an oversized ute and let him in. But as they disappear in a cloud of dust, the man scolds his rescuers for their “problematic” utterance of the word “zombie”.

    “They actually prefer to be called ‘the living deceased’,” he says, using the smarmy phraseology of the woke Twitter crowd. The car screeches to a halt and the man is shoved out the door, into the clutches of the undead.

  204. thefrolickingmole

    .

    Its even worse than that, IF Harvey had r*ped/assaulted some of the ladies making claims their cases will fade into the background if his defense lawyers run their case well..

    I can see it “An event so traumatic you were still confessing feelings of affection for him 4 years later”.. etc etc.

    Its either massive incompetence or a deliberate way to wreck any chance of a conviction.

  205. Trump’s decision to walk back his announcement that the key Russia-gate intelligence would be declassified tells us almost as much as if he’d tweeted it out, unredacted. For what it tells us is that public knowledge of the contents would constitute a major break in relations with at least one key ally.

    Alexander fucking Downer is not Australia.

    Tell us what they did so we can deal with them. Don’t ever hold back. That’s not what we support you for.

  206. Nick’s public image as a likable Aussie bloke was shattered last week when he shocked the country by choosing no one in the Bachelor finale.

    wtf?

  207. Top Ender

    From IR’s link above:

    Mr Weinstein and the woman, whose name has not been released, exchanged 400 emails during the “weeks and years after the alleged rape,” the papers state.

    In a February 2017 email sent nearly four years after the alleged sex attack, she wrote, “I love you, always do. But I hate feeling like a booty call. :)”

    Doesn’t matter though.

    Evidence? Magna Carta? Two thousand years of trying to get laws right for all humans?

    Nope.

  208. Mother Lode

    He’s also been charged with…sex trafficking. Okay, without coercing these women into a “sex ring”

    The next wave of #MeToo might well be prostitutes and escorts who, to add insult to injury, were given money to create the impression of a transaction, but the power disparity between the one with money, and the other with no other means of support, cannot be ignored.

  209. stackja

    How many slept to higher status? Now claiming wrong done?

  210. Unexplained wealth laws can be justified:

    Maxine Waters was unavailable for comment.

  211. Tel

    I’m listening to Paul Murray live… he’s joined the War on Maths.

    You have to worry about these people who call themselves “Libertarian”, there’s limits you know.

  212. Nick’s public image as a likable Aussie bloke was shattered last week when he shocked the country by choosing no one in the Bachelor finale.

    What shit is this?

    The Honey Badger has shown all females how to really play hard to get. He has set a world’s best practice in it.

    Has he had to pay for a beer in a pub since?

  213. stackja

    SMH report new harassing. Snowflakes facing reality?

  214. Makka

    Here’s what the Dems think of the Blacks in a Quick History Lesson;

    https://images.slideplayer.com/39/10872566/slides/slide_9.jpg

  215. John Constantine

    Sky sport had a wymynsys announcer in the background this morning, i was tuning out to the list of grievances, but did prick the ears up when their wymynsys denounced Trump for dating a female golfer back in the eighties.

    The wymynsys triumphed that it was:

    “Just as well” that the sisterhood rejected the Trump advances.

    They are grasping for any opening in any armour to stab their semiautomatic assault knives through.

  216. John Constantine

    ” “Life would have been so different,” Stephenson said.

    “Somebody asked (Trump) that when were playing golf (together) and he (joked), ‘We would have already been divorced by now’.

    “I try to imagine what it would have been like, because … I wouldn’t have been able to play golf (and) I don’t think I would have got in the Hall of Fame.

    “But he was actually very supportive of my career.”

    https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/aussie-jan-stephenson-was-widely-regarded-as-golfs/3546580/

    Better be careful, Jan doesn’t seem to have got the memo from the left about there being only one way to talk About Trump. The Sky wymynsys sport speaker got the right spin on it for the left.

  217. You can believe in the virtues of statism and loathe the present government with no difficulty whatever.

    You seem to be changing the goalposts now. We’ve moved from ‘religion’ to ‘worship’ to ‘virtues’.

    You remind me of the guy who said “When I say religion I mean the Christian religion, and when I say Christian, I mean the Church of England!”

    That guy was onto something by preferring to speak more specifically rather than generally, but even speaking generally, the characterization is forced and ill-fitting.

    Functionally, leftism is a religion. It has the whole panoply of characteristics, from sin and redemption to sacred rituals. It lacks only a God, and He has been replaced by the state as the source of real, demonstrable power. Lefties can point to their god and its power. Yours has been declared a myth.

    We could say exactly the same thing about Science™. We could identify the sinful, redemptive, ritual, the priestly caste, etc. but the analogy would do violence to religion.

  218. Myrddin Seren

    World Economic Forum – Davos high rollers every year.

    Totally and completely captured by green Left loons.

    If happiness is going to become the new GDP, we need to get better at measuring it

  219. John Constantine

    Unexplained wealth laws.

    “Me Maaaaaaaates give it to me”

    Good enough explanation for any of australias politicians.

    Comrades.

  220. Mother Lode

    How many slept to higher status? Now claiming wrong done?

    Exactly.

    There will have been actresses who were prepared to let Wankstain have his way for their own advantage and at the expense of other actresses. Both Harvey and them did that they did each for their own gain.

    I can easily imagine him getting carried away with himself and really using coercion – but as the previously cited quote indicates, not all. And any who really were victimised will now not even be noticed.

  221. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Politically, I think Whitehall is inaugurating the new UWOs by pursuing an egregious criminal. That sells the concept. Down the track, they’ll be going after geezers with a London lock-up and a Jag.

    factcheck: TRUE

  222. thefrolickingmole

    Its strictly back to the future for green loons.
    http://www.lordsandladies.org/sumptuary-laws-middle-ages.htm

    1281 and 1309 – The first recorded English Sumptuary Laws of the Middle Ages
    The first record of sumptuary legislation is an ordinance of the City of London in 1281 which regulated the apparel, or clothing, of workman. These related to workers who had working clothes supplied by their employer as a part of their wages. Fashions and trends between countries were frequently imitated and this first Sumptuary Law was probably copied from a European country. The second record of sumptuary legislation occurred during the reign of King Edward II (1284-1327) related to food expenditure. King Edward II issued a proclamation against ‘outrageous consumption of meats and fine dishes’ by nobles.

    The new hotness:
    Huge reduction in meat-eating ‘essential’ to avoid climate breakdown

    Huge reductions in meat-eating are essential to avoid dangerous climate change, according to the most comprehensive analysis yet of the food system’s impact on the environment. In western countries, beef consumption needs to fall by 90% and be replaced by five times more beans and pulses.

    This flexitarian diet means the average world citizen needs to eat 75% less beef, 90% less pork and half the number of eggs, while tripling consumption of beans and pulses and quadrupling nuts and seeds. This would halve emissions from livestock and better management of manure would enable further cuts.

    In rich nations, the dietary changes required are ever more stark. UK and US citizens need to cut beef by 90% and milk by 60% while increasing beans and pulses between four and six times.

    Reducing meat consumption might be achieved by a mix of education, taxes, subsidies for plant-based foods and changes to school and workplace menus, the scientists said.

    What it really means is “be rich” anything else and its beans and bugs for you peasant.

  223. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Richard Branson criticises Australia over climate change, says coal ‘should be a thing of the past’

    How quaint, a billionaire implores us to lay down our weapons of mass prosperity.

  224. DrBeauGan

    We could say exactly the same thing about Science™. We could identify the sinful, redemptive, ritual, the priestly caste, etc. but the analogy would do violence to religion.

    Only at the expense of talking total crap.

  225. zyconoclast

    World Economic Forum – Davos high rollers every year.

    Totally and completely captured by green Left loons.

    If happiness is going to become the new GDP, we need to get better at measuring it

    top 10 happiest list

    GDP list top 10

  226. stackja

    Two Telegraph stories, one, woman stabbed, called DV. The other man stabbed, no mention, DV.

  227. zyconoclast

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Richard Branson criticises Australia over climate change, says coal ‘should be a thing of the past’

    When he stops using aviation fuel.

  228. Mother Lode

    Unexplained wealth laws can be justified:

    Maxine Waters was unavailable for comment.

    I would think she would merely answer “Impeach! Impeach!”

    Hillary would merely respond with “I don’t recall”, “I object to the question”, “I object to the definition” etc.

    Kamala Harris would badger them with “What is your name. No, I just want a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer. Okay, we can see you won’t give me your name.”

    Christine Blazes Ford “I can’t come to the office – I am afraid of doors. I have two doors. I don’t remember getting the money. I don’t remember who gave it to me. I am not sure if it was cash or a transfer, but it was cash. My friend was with me. Well, she is lying. It was a transfer. I forget. I can’t remember any details except that it is mine.”

  229. Nick

    Have a look at Joe Rogan’s Interesting take on the Weinstein case.

  230. stackja

    Branson only uses solar/wind for house, vehicle and air travel?

  231. duncanm

    But burning fossil fuels to go into space is ok.

    indeed — this page says the first stage of the Saturn V in the 1967 moon launch used 203k gallons (770,000 litres) of kerosene.

    I wonder what sources of energy are used to generate the lox, hydrogen, and solid propellants Richard intends to use?

  232. Myrddin Seren

    Moley.

    At first I was just being ironic.

    But things have gone so far down the SJW

    ‘In order to Save the Planet…( insert ban of your choice here )’ rabbit hole,

    I now am absolutely convinced that

    The first record of sumptuary legislation is an ordinance of the City of London in 1281 which regulated the apparel, or clothing, of workman.

    will soon make a reappearance under the hashtags:

    #ClothingJustice #WaronWaste ( already under way ) and #SustainableApparel ( think: rationing and ‘practical’ Mao suits for the plebs.

    I desperately want to find the time to take up archery. That chick in the ‘Hunger Games’ did well against the Lords of Sustainability with it…..

  233. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Chinese authorities deny that the internment camps exist but say petty criminals are sent to vocational “training centres”. Former detainees say they were forced to denounce Islam and profess loyalty to the Communist party in what they describe as political indoctrination camps.

    This doesn’t work, they lie, the spanish tried this and eventually had to kick all the f*ckers out.

  234. Tel

    We could say exactly the same thing about Science™. We could identify the sinful, redemptive, ritual, the priestly caste, etc. but the analogy would do violence to religion.

    Depends very much what you want to include under the banner of “Science”.

    Most branches of science don’t feel the need to use name calling such as “Denier!” and I’m pretty sure that personal abuse isn’t part of the Scientific Method. Religious groups have been known to treat unbelievers in similar ways, but that doesn’t always happen.

  235. Makka

    Chinese authorities deny that the internment camps exist but say petty criminals are sent to vocational “training centres”. Former detainees say they were forced to denounce Islam and profess loyalty to the Communist party in what they describe as political indoctrination camps.

    Islam and Commos. They deserve each other.

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