Open Forum: October 13, 2018

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  1. Mindfree

    yes i’m back from eastern Canada Atlantic provinces – what a place!!

  2. .

    We will Make America Metal Again

  3. mh

    Dot, you’ve stuffed the first page already.

    💩💩💩

  4. .

    The nonsense of mixing different races is too self-evident to even discuss it so much so that historical record proves that such mixtures unavoidably end up in one of the following or a mixture of them:

    stratification of the society into a caste system (India, United States, Brazil) with ubiquitous ghettos and no-go zones;
    miscegenation that changes the host nation beyond recognition (present-day Egypt as opposed to ancient Egypt; the Ottoman in place of the Byzantine Empire; present-day Mexico and pre-Columbian Mexico);
    civil unrest and civil war with mass butchering (Polish-Ukrainian or Armenian–Turkish borderlands; Tutsi and Hutu in Africa).

    No, just no.

    Let’s not rely on these terrible, stupid arguments.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ek eis hierdie draad in die naam van die Boer kommando’s

  6. Rossini

    Quiet night. So I’m off to sleep for a change. Good night those still reading!

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As a young Two Alpha, I spent a lot of money on Scotch whisky, fast cars and separating young ladies, and some who wern’t so young, from the odious burden of their chastity.

    I now spend a lot of of money on pain killers, comfortable walking shoes, and scratch resistant reading glasses.

    There is something going on here, I’m not sure what it is.

  8. Oh come on

    There is something going on here, I’m not sure what it is.

    Blowhardery?

  9. Mark A

    14th avoided the unlucky 13

    sheeesh, must be late and after a few, judging by some posts.

  10. mizaris

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2837716, posted on October 13, 2018 at 12:44 am

    One of my very old favourites, along with “I am Pegasus”.

    Lots of interesting memories of the old Channel 9 Studio in Tuart Hill.

  11. mizaris

    And “Orchestra Ladies”

  12. C.L.

    Scott the ‘Christian’ – and the Liberal Party – formally embrace the Safe Schools gimp …
    Daniel Andrews won.
    Morrison to crack down on private schools that do not obey the homosexual lobby:

    In The Australian: Morrison bid to protect gay kids

    Protect them from what? Christians, of course.

    Scott Morrison will move to ­legislate protections for gay and trans students and ensure non-state schools do not expel them on the “basis of their sexuality”.

    Ahead of a crucial by-election in Wentworth, which has one of the largest LGBTI communities in Australia, the Prime Minister will today announce changes to laws introduced under Julia Gillard in 2013 to offer more protections for gay students against discrimination.

    Mr Morrison told The Weekend Australian that “misrepresentations” of proposals outlined in the Ruddock review into religious freedom, which supported strengthening protections for students, had created “unnecessary confusion and anxiety for parents and students”.

    Mr Morrison will move to ­introduce amendments to parliament “as soon as practicable to make it clear that no student of a non-state school should be ­expelled on the basis of their ­sexuality”.

    The Weekend Australian understands Mr Morrison discussed the issue with Liberal Wentworth candidate Dave Sharma, who is fighting to retain the government’s majority in a hotly contested by-election next Saturday.

    “I believe this view is shared across the parliament and we should use the next fortnight to ensure this matter is addressed,” Mr Morrison said. “To this end, I have asked the Attorney-General to prepare amendments and consult with the opposition.”

    Mr Morrison, a proud Christian, said amending the legislation would “give all students and parents the certainty they require”.

    “Any changes in this area should always take into account the best interests of children. Given recent misreporting, we have an opportunity here to bring forward a simple amendment to end the confusion,” he said.

    First a mysterious, probably orchestrated ‘leak’; then Scotty comes to the rescue of gays – slandering and demonising Christian schools by legislating against a fake threat to allegedly ‘gay’ children.

  13. None

    Wholeheartedly agree C.L. first we had the line media hello Fairfax and then the knee jerk is hello Andrew Bolt and then the cows hello Morrison – but I have warned you and warned you for years and Morrison is a policy free zone and gutless to boot – so now we’re going to legislate that kids can be gay and lock them into that label potentially for life at an age with our way too young to give consent or work out their own identity. As I said on Bolt’s blog but which I doubt will be published, way to go all you stupid people. Bolt himself once used to say it is cruel to lock kids into labels such as gay – a gay man on his blog said the same – but Bolt can take credit for his pants wetting. By the way red ox recommendation for schools to have a stated policy on conditions for attendance or conditions for employment has been kaw in South Australia for years. I don’t think any school has a policy of no gays allowed and I’m not aware of any school well no Christian School at least the has expelled a kids are being gay. Sensible schools don’t play along with teenage angst about sexuality.

  14. None

    first we had the lying media hello Fairfax and then the knee jerkers hello Andrew Bolt and then the cowards hello Morrison 

    Stupid phone

  15. None

    I am now no longer surprised bythathe police released a man who was charged with raping a 13 year old boy in his front yard after only charging him with having sex without consent, as if a 13-year-old boy is now over the age of consent and is capable of giving consent to being sodomized by some f****** stranger in his front yard. We’re back to The Cult of Anton is and the same immorality that took Christians several hundred years to change. All those Christians i antiquity who constantly constantly exhorted people not to molest boys, not to beat their wives, not to abandon their husbands, not to mistreat slaves. Heck let’s go back to barbarity. I’m pretty sure that girls will soon be forced to do work experience in brothels.

  16. None

    Atlas is both impressive and also mildly creepy.

  17. None

    There is something going on here, I’m not sure what it is.

    as long as it’s not incontinence, Zulu, and just the dog licking your toes.

  18. C.L.

    It’s pretty obvious the religious liberty ‘leak’ from the Ruddock review was orchestrated for two reasons. First, in the expectation that Morrison could wedge Labor from the left (which is pretty hard to do given how extreme the ALP is on all things homosexual) for an advantage in Wentworth. More broadly, it is an attack on LNP conservatives and the Abbott/Bernardi faction; a way of saying all is lost for you and your causes. See, we’re now aligned to Daniel Andrews. We can’t go back. There is virtually no evidence of any private schools booting out supposedly homosexual students. There is, however, ample reason to believe that homosexual propagandists – including brainwashed students – will try on a variety of stunts in religious schools (by which I mean Christian schools) in order to cause trouble for school authorities and churches. Scott Morrison has decided he will back the Safe Schools stormtroopers in that inevitable battle (which is own amendments will enable) over against private schools. The Liberal Party has now declared it is willing to prosecute Christian teachers for the crime of being Christians in their own schools.

  19. DrBeauGan

    I’ve had it up to the ears with the bloody gaystapo.

  20. None

    Yes, yes, and maybe if you didn’t link to a notorious privacy hacking and trackibg site.

  21. Mark A

    None
    #2837736, posted on October 13, 2018 at 3:30 am

    Yes, yes, and maybe if you didn’t link to a notorious privacy hacking and trackibg site.

    What are you on about?
    I’ve been using Gyazo for years, never had a problem nor heard anyone complain before.
    You must have an oversensitive virus checker.

    That’s one more way of posting denied me then.
    God almighty.

  22. Tom

    Johannes Leak on the world’s biggest hypocrite. (Leak Junior is hitting it so far out of the park as Australia’s most consequential cartoonist it will embarrass the Paywallian* when gimp Jon Kudelka returns from holidays.)

    *The Australian is under new management, following the departure of Paul “Boris” Whittaker to run Sky News (a great move as it means management weakling Angelo Frangopoulos has been trebucheted out of the joint; Whittaker will hopefully give Sky’s on-air line-up some real muscle).

    The Oz’s new editor-in-chief is Sydney Daily Telegraph editor Chris Dore. Sadly, the Sydney/Brisbane mafia controls Ruperdink Mudrock’s Australian empire and editorial executives of his best-run local paper, Melbourne’s Herald-Sun, are locked out of the Oz.)

  23. I am bespoke

    So Scott Morrison manufactured a none issue to own the ALP with the help of Andrew Bolt.
    Bernardi needs to step up over this and stop playing nice with the coalition.

  24. Mark A

    Mark A
    #2837741, posted on October 13, 2018 at 4:01 am

    None
    #2837736, posted on October 13, 2018 at 3:30 am

    Yes, yes, and maybe if you didn’t link to a notorious privacy hacking and trackibg site.

    What are you on about?
    I’ve been using Gyazo for years, never had a problem nor heard anyone complain before.
    You must have an oversensitive virus checker.

    PS,
    I just rechecked, and can’t find any trace of “privacy hacking or tracking” about Gyazo at all.

    It’s a file sharing server, you can use it free with limitation or pay for the full service.
    We have transferred some quite sensitive files over the years with no problem, can’t for the life of me see what harm looking at a picture on the Gyazo site can do.

    More secure than Instagram, if anyone had a problem let me know and I complain to them, we pay good money for the privilege of using the service.

  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Very nice it was to pull up to Hairy’s brother’s house and see two beaming and welcoming faces opening the door for us. His brother and sister in law are the nicest people, in spite of the fact they read The Times religiously at breakfast each morning and implicitly believe the BBC. We’ve been travelling for so long it really did feel like coming home to share a meal and pack down for the next week touring England and seeing friends before returning to them to say our farewells.

    Hairy says the friend who cancelled seeing us has a genuine funeral to attend. My bad for thinking otherwise. It has also freed us up from travelling north, so we have thrown together just one suitcase and took off today to stay one hour down the motorway from Richmond to follow Hairy’s rowing career, egged on by his brother who sports a Cambridge Oar (ie he hit the bigtime there) in his entrance hallway.

    For now we are Rowing at Henleah. Henley, for all youse normal Ozzie speakers. We are in a room named after a famous American Ivy League university. Other rooms here are called things like Eton, Oxford, Yale and Cambridge. We should be in Cambridge, your Alma Mater, I whisper to Hairy as we check in and reserve a place at dinner tonight. As we entered our room, the first thing I spot is one of the Ivy League place’s little university graduation bears, a worn and rather antique little bear, was sitting on the low velvet chair on which Hairy is now perched, while I am luxuriating on the pillow-stacked bed glancing out at the Thames slowly idling by. Hairy has thrown the poor little bear on the floor.

    This place we are staying in is a Gentleman’s Rowing Club, very famous, its clubhouse on the riverside. It was started in London two hundred years ago. These days they also take paying guests, as long as they dress properly and abide by The Rules. They have only two weeks ago had their Bi-Centenary. The dining room is set up for a big occasion tonight, so I guess we were lucky to get a room. The room is itself quite antique in style, with a classic river view, including some ‘eights’, ‘fours’, ‘pairs’ and ‘skulls’ in the forecourt. Comfortably furnished, it is not a large room but still manages to display on its walls twenty-seven framed photographs and mementos of rowing varsity days, as well as pennants and the Coat of Arms of the university.

    As we go down the stairs to the main entrance old, and some newer, photographs of a particular sort of English gentleman, dressed in a fascinating collection of blazers and slacks, line the stairwell.
    Clearly these denizens, replicated in some living examples of elderly men sitting in the Members’ Bar (to which we have honorary entry), watch down from the walls, taking their proper place as silent guardians of The Rules for this haunt of Clubable Men and their Good Ladies.

    It’s a long way from Mt. Druitt where I grew up.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    Poms do posh better than anyone!

    I’m too much of a low church bogan to like it myself, but I approve of their style. They built a whole empire on posh.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Regarding the cartoons, the Dems aren’t happy this morning:

    Democrat leaders howl as GOP brands party with damaging three-letter midterm label*

    Liberal protesters – egged on by Democratic politicians – are openly embracing a more confrontational and aggressive approach, banging on the doors of the Supreme Court, confronting lawmakers outside their offices and chasing GOP officials out of restaurants.

    And Republicans are quickly seizing on that spectacle to hammer a new midterm message, decrying the “mob” behavior and warning that Democrats would bring that mentality into the majority should they prevail in November’s election.

    “The radical Democrats have turned into an angry mob,” President Trump said at one of many recent campaign-style rallies, a message he’s repeated over and over.

    Simple, accurate and resounding. Good political message.
    Of course the Dems could return to civility and renounce violence, but I suspect they’ve gone too far for that. Well kiddies you reap what you sow.

    (* I’ve given the headline to the story which is top billing on the main Fox News page, the title within the story is a little different)

  28. None

    You can really tell the ideologues in the press. A short while ago The Daily Telegraph had a headline saying: Loophole prompts rethink of Zoe’s law. Now it reads: Loophole prompts rethink of foetal kill law.
    God forbid that anyone might think this is about killing unborn babies, that is humans. I’m sure they mean that they will jail you if you hit a pregnant bitch.

  29. None

    Spot on re Johannes et al Tom. Although I can’t understand your admiration for the Hun. It’s almost as left as the Age.

  30. Twostix

    Apparently there is such a thing as a “gay kid” now.

    Like, heaps of them. Gay children everywhere playing with toys alongside all of the tranny children. Both groups of immense interest to the child sexuality obsessed ped infested bugman class.

    This is babylonian style national degeneracy.

  31. Twostix

    It took one generation for this to happen.

  32. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Most People of European Ancestry Can Be Identified From a Relative’s DNA
    Even people who have never taken a genetic test can be tracked down like the Golden State Killer suspect.

  33. miltonf

    This is babylonian style national degeneracy.
    Just another ratcheting up of cultural marxism. Consider George Lucaks in Hungary before WWI.

  34. Mark A

    miltonf
    #2837767, posted on October 13, 2018 at 7:09 am

    This is babylonian style national degeneracy.
    Just another ratcheting up of cultural marxism. Consider George Lucaks in Hungary before WWI.

    Not quite sure where you want to go with this, but studying a bit of history of the gentleman might help.
    Nothing ever is as they seem.

  35. Twostix

    She told CBS13 she’s simply concerned about teachers discussing sexuality with her 7-year-old.

    Mundane things we read in the news in 2018.

    Parents carefully apologetically saying the above sentence.

  36. Twostix

    If you’re going to be forced to say thing like the above don’t say “teachers” say “unknown adults” or similar. That provides an emotive soundbite.

    E.g.

    She told CBS13 she’s simply concerned about ‘unknown adults’ discussing sexuality with her 7-year-old

    Suddenly it is what it is.

  37. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Top ender, if you are still looking for a 3D printer this one is cheap:

    what do you actually use it for?

  38. Eyrie

    I think Top ender wanted models for table top war games.
    I use mine to replace expensive CNC machined aluminium parts with 3D printed polycarbonate. Works great, minimises expensive stock on hand and allows easy customisation. Less than 10% the cost of a part.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t be misled about dis place, cautions Hairy. Apparently the full membership contàins more than 250 men and some women who are elite Olympians (124 Olympic medals) or other championship winners. It is not Oxbridge Old Boys Club either. Their brochure:

    “As home to such heroes as Sir Steve Redgrave and Sir Matthew Pinsent, and to many of today’s chanpiins, Leander exists to attract and develop young high- potential oarsmen and women by providing state-of-the art facilities and a world-class coaching capability.’

    Hairy is impressed. It’s a success machine, he assesses. Old traditions but a democtatised method and entry. Many people join as ordinary members though, and not as aspiring atheletes, in order to enjoy the traditions and offer various forms of support. Strong relationships with elite university clubs is obviouly another attractive benefit of membership.

    Hairy now playing the Eton Boating Song (Jolly Boating Weather) to me on his computer. Eton is the room next door, he points out.

    Here is one (Rugby) version of the song:

    “The sexual life of the camei
    Is stranger than anyone thinks
    At the height of the mating season,
    He tries to bugger the Sphinx.
    But the Sphinx’s posterior orifice
    Is clogged by the sands of the Nile
    Which accounts for the hump on the camel
    And the Sphinx’s inscrutible smile.

    The sexual life of the Ostrich … etc”

    The food as well as the accents in the dining room was truly first class too. I can vouch for that. 🙂

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Please remember we are two bottles in and it is 10.10pm here.

  41. Baldrick

    British students protest, remembering those who gave their lives, so they could be free to protest, or something …

    The Telegraph ✔ @Telegraph
    Cambridge University students vote against Remembrance Sunday motion over fears it ‘glorifies’ war

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump causes shrinkage:

    Politico: Trump May Not Be Crazy, But He’s Driving The Left Insane (12 Oct)

    The Philadelphia couple who found Trump had a detumescent effect on their love life weren’t arguing about the president, said their therapist, Cynthia Baum-Baicker. They were just coping with shared distress in different ways. Information for many people reduces anxiety, and so TV news was a kind of psychic tether for the wife.

    “I remember the husband basically said, ‘If you ever want to be intimate again, you’ll turn the TV off in the bedroom. I can’t have that man present and listen to him and feel any sense of arousal,’” said Baum-Baicker.

    Global warming causes shrinkage:

    Nutty Science Claim: CO2/global warming shrinking men’s testicles (8 Oct)

    As the authors put it, “Our global manhood is being steadily shriveled into effeminancy by our huge and rising emission of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.”

    Trump causes global warming:

    UN scientist claims Trump ‘poses the single greatest threat’ to Earth’s climate (8 Oct)

    A former UN lead author of the United Nations climate reports, Dr. Michael Mann, has ramped up the stakes of the new “dire” UN climate change report by claiming the “latest [UN] report underscores the danger that [President] Donald Trump poses to the planet.”

    Trump causes everything.

  43. Ubique

    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

  44. Crossie

    Scott Morrison has decided he will back the Safe Schools stormtroopers in that inevitable battle (which is own amendments will enable) over against private schools. The Liberal Party has now declared it is willing to prosecute Christian teachers for the crime of being Christians in their own schools.

    You would think a high profile Christian such as Morrison would be aware of his obligation to actually abide by the Christian teachings but he seems to be just like Turnbull who claimed to be a Catholic yet did his utmost to hurt the Church. It seems only Muslim MPs are serious about their religion.

  45. struth

    It all starts in our schools.
    Until we pull these harping Marxist radicals out of our classrooms we have no hope.

  46. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

    Why stop there, some teenagers might require the same fate.

  47. Baldrick

    Scott Morrison will move to ­legislate protections for gay and trans students and ensure non-state schools do not expel them on the “basis of their sexuality”.

    But legislation to protect unborn babies from being terminated on the “basis of their sex”, not so much.

  48. Crossie

    He defended the article, saying the arguments in the paper were not new. “The novel contribution of this paper is not an argument in favour of infanticide … but rather their application in consideration of maternal and family interests. The paper also draws attention to the fact that infanticide is practised in the Netherlands.”

    Ubique, I read the article and the conclusion is astounding. Before you know it ripping the heart out of a live person on an Aztec altar becomes justified as being in someone’s interest.

  49. Crossie

    Baldrick
    #2837798, posted on October 13, 2018 at 8:42 am
    Scott Morrison will move to ­legislate protections for gay and trans students and ensure non-state schools do not expel them on the “basis of their sexuality”.

    But legislation to protect unborn babies from being terminated on the “basis of their sex”, not so much.

    Morality is what ScoMo says it is.

  50. struth

    Sco Mo is very dangerous to our nation.

    He’ll fool more than a few with his chummy act.

    An ideological vacant and raging grandstanding hypocrite when it comes to his religion.

    Let’s face it, those new style Christian churches with their rock bands attract pseudo Christian virtue signallers.

    He definitely isn’t practcing what he preaches.

  51. Twostix

    Evangelicals / pentecostals think the catholic church is a cult run by demonic lunatics.

    And this (like all political attacks on religion in this country) is an attack on catholic schools. Nobody has in mind the local inconsequential Lutheran school when they talk about this do they?

    For the degenerate because the catholic church is the largest blocker to global poz. For the evangelical because its a demon cult. For the anglican because history.

  52. struth

    Hasn’t Sco Mo sucked in the brain dead skynews team?

    Sucked them in because he said prayers in a church and then walked outside and literally supported child sexual abuse in schools by sick fuck Marxists.

  53. iain russell

    Milton, that’s Georg Lukács to you sir, b as Löwinger György Bernát. I don’t normally do The Pedant but I had to sweat four months blood over my Germanistik IIIA paper concerning aforesaid Magyar. The pain still burns some 45 years on. Jolly best wishes!

  54. iain russell

    ZK2A, geen meer kinderachtig Nederlands meneer – ook bekend als
    Afrikaans – ABN alleen!

  55. miltonf

    Noted thanks Iain 🙂 What a horror he was.

  56. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2837784, posted on October 13, 2018 at 8:03 am

    Hope they are good wines

    Really enjoyed

    Here is one (Rugby) version of the song:

    “The sexual life of the camei
    Is stranger than anyone thinks
    At the height of the mating season,
    He tries to bugger the Sphinx.
    But the Sphinx’s posterior orifice
    Is clogged by the sands of the Nile
    Which accounts for the hump on the camel
    And the Sphinx’s inscrutible smile.

    The sexual life of the Ostrich … etc”

    As any Iranian will tell you – “We are Persians, not Arab Camel Traders”

  57. cuckoo

    Can’t wait to see the ABC’s new drama Pine Gap. Let’s see: lead character is a feisty spunky middle class white chick? Check. Male characters are secondary satellites? Check. White chick has a romance with a black dude? Check. Americans are snarling devious whisky-chugging stubble-cheeked bad hombres? Check. I’m hoping White Chick will have an offsider/bestie who’s a closeted gay. And some coded digs at Trump, surely. Shaping up to be an even bigger agit-prop crapfest than Bastard Boys.

  58. OldOzzie

    Tom

    thanks Johannes Leak Wins it by a Mile today but the rest were great as well

    Re The Australian and various comments

    at least you can get both sides in The Australian vs Faufax Media which us a total wasteground

  59. rickw

    Sucked them in because he said prayers in a church and then walked outside and literally supported child sexual abuse in schools by sick fuck Marxists.

    Scomo is like most Australian politicians, an evil piece of shit.

  60. OldOzzie

    BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Loses Security Clearance Amid Email Scandal

    Hillary Clinton lost her security clearance according to an announcement from the Senate Judiciary Committee on Friday.

    Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley also revealed that Hillary Clinton’s aide (who magically became her lawyer) Cheryl Mills along with four others also no longer have clearance.

    Via the Senate Judiciary Committee:


    The U.S. State Department recently confirmed that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s security clearance has been withdrawn at her request. Clearances for five other individuals whom Clinton designated as researchers have also been withdrawn, including close aide Cheryl Mills, according to the State Department’s update of its ongoing review of the mishandling of classified information related to the use of Clinton’s non-government email server.

    Documents containing classified material have been sent to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, and all valid security incidents have been added to the security file for some individuals. Department authorities are continuing to review tens of thousands of documents for classified content.

    The update was provided to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and is being released for the first time following consultation with the State Department. The update follows a letter from the Department in May of 2017 confirming the Department’s review into any mishandling of classified information stemming from the use of Clinton’s non-government email server. That letter, which responded to an inquiry from Grassley, also outlined the review and adjudication process.

    Read the letter from the State Department to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley here.

  61. rickw

    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

    Seems like we’re back at Child Sacrifice.

    Why not just fire up Moloch again and be done with it?

  62. OldOzzie

    Unhinged Protester Uses Kids as Political Props in Senate Hallway — GOP Senator Ruins Her Day (VIDEO)

    A protester confronted Republican Senator Bill Cassidy on Tuesday demanding that he apologize to her children for ruining their futures — and his response was absolutely brutal.

    Alethea Torrellas Shapiro has been bringing her children to Capitol Hill all week to use her children as political props while she harasses senators. This time, she happened to confront the wrong guy.

    After asking Senator Cassidy to apologize to her children, he looked at them and responded, “Guess what? Your parents are using you as tools. In the future if somebody makes an allegation against you and there’s no proof for it, you’ll be okay.”

    Senator Cassidy walked away as the stunned protesters continued to shout.

  63. C.L.

    You would think a high profile Christian such as Morrison would be aware of his obligation to actually abide by the Christian teachings …

    He’s a Pentecostal, not a Christian.
    Those people loathe mainstream churches (most especially Catholics) more than left-wing atheists.
    Morrison is a total fraud.

  64. Ubique

    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

    It proves that there is no limit to evil.
    Where would these advocates of murder draw the line: is it a mother’s right to kill a new born in the first 24 hours? First week? First month? First year? First decade?

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why not just fire up Moloch again and be done with it?

    As you command!

    The Guardian: Support Climate Action or Face Hellfire (12 Oct)

    According to The Guardian, if you don’t mend your wicked ways you will burn in climate driven hellfire. But the Guardian fails to identify the true culprits behind USA’s devastating wildfires.

    So the lefty religion now has child sacrifice, food laws, religious rituals like recycling, devilish CO2 and now hellfire.

  66. OldOzzie

    Coalition launches bid to protect gay children – Geoff Chambers and John Ferguson

    Scott Morrison will move to ­legislate protections for gay and trans students and ensure non-state schools do not expel them on the “basis of their sexuality”.

    Ahead of a crucial by-election in Wentworth, which has one of the largest LGBTI communities in Australia, the Prime Minister will today announce changes to laws introduced under Julia Gillard in 2013 to offer more protections for gay students against discrimination.

    Mr Morrison told The Weekend Australian that “misrepresentations” of proposals outlined in the Ruddock review into religious freedom, which supported strengthening protections for students, had created “unnecessary confusion and anxiety for parents and students”.

    Exemptions that allow ­religious schools to refuse gay ­students and teachers already exist in carve-outs to the Sex Discrimination Act, which were extended by Labor. They were not recommendations of the review, led by former Liberal attorney-general Philip Ruddock.

    Ahead of Mr Morrison’s announcement, Bill Shorten last night wrote to the Prime Minister offering Labor’s support to pass a bill to amend the Sex Discrimin­ation Act and remove exemptions that allow religious schools to “discriminate against children on the basis of their sexual orientation and gender identity”.

    Deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek, at odds with Mr Shorten, had earlier said Labor had no plans to abolish or “reduce” the ­Gillard-era exemptions.

    “These exemptions are anachronistic and are a denial of the ­dignity of children at any time,” the Opposition Leader wrote to Mr Morrison. “Indeed, the response from many religious educational institutions has made clear that such exemptions are not used, and are not in line with their beliefs. It is Labor’s view that they should be removed.”

    Mr Morrison will move to ­introduce amendments to parliament “as soon as practicable to make it clear that no student of a non-state school should be ­expelled on the basis of their ­sexuality”.

    The Weekend Australian understands Mr Morrison discussed the issue with Liberal Wentworth candidate Dave Sharma, who is fighting to retain the government’s majority in a hotly contested by-election next Saturday.

    “I believe this view is shared across the parliament and we should use the next fortnight to ensure this matter is addressed,” Mr Morrison said. “To this end, I have asked the Attorney-General to prepare amendments and consult with the opposition.

    “Our government does not support expulsion of students from religious non-state schools on the basis of their sexuality. I also know that this view is widely shared by religious schools and communities across the country.”

    On Wednesday, Archbishop Mark Coleridge, president of the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference, said Catholic schools welcomed “staff and students from all backgrounds who are willing to ­accept the declared mission and values of the school community”.

    “We have not sought concessions to discriminate against students or teachers based on their sexuality, gender identity or relationship status,” Archbishop Coleridge said.

    Mr Morrison, a proud Christian, said amending the legislation would “give all students and parents the certainty they require”.

    “Any changes in this area should always take into account the best interests of children. Given recent misreporting, we have an opportunity here to bring forward a simple amendment to end the confusion,” he said.

    As revealed in The Australian on Thursday, Mr Morrison’s cabinet is set to decide on a proposal for a religious discrimination act, the key recommendation of the Ruddock review. The proposed legislation is viewed as a way to end Coalition infighting and allay fears among religious groups ­following the divisive same-sex marriage debate.

    The government is furious that the Ruddock review was leaked, accusing Liberals of undermining the Morrison government.

    “It looks like an internal hit,’’ a senior Liberal said.

    One of the 20 recommen­dations in the Ruddock review was a suggestion that jurisdictions should abolish any exceptions to anti-discrimination laws that provide for discrimination by ­religious schools in employment on the basis of race, disability, pregnancy or intersex “status’’.

    On Thursday, Attorney-General Christian Porter said the ­Ruddock review did not widen powers for schools to discriminate against gay people.

  67. Geriatric Mayfly

    It proves that there is no limit to evil.
    Where would these advocates of murder draw the line: is it a mother’s right to kill a new born in the first 24 hours? First week? First month? First year? First decade?

    It will eventually become an extension of a ‘Woman’s right to choose.’

  68. struth

    The thing about the left and how they always do things is gradually.

    You know, first they want abortion and then progress to killing already born babies.

    This is why I have such a low tolerance of Monty.
    He doesn’t get to argue for leftism and not own the above.
    He supports it, even if he personally disagrees with killing babies, by not opposing it.
    He just disappears when he feels like it.
    Without actively fighting it, the tribal mind is exposed.
    And it ain’t a good tribe to belong to.

    To me, his tribal silence on this sort of stuff is support.
    Lefties must be made to own their shit.

  69. Myrddin Seren

    Mr Morrison, a proud Christian…

    I find this ‘proud’ construction by the journos weird. I think because it says more about them than SloMo.

    Presumably they prefer black-armband Christians like the guy at Gosford ?

  70. C.L.

    I find this ‘proud’ construction by the journos weird.

    Journalists always describe Christians as “proud” when they undermine Christianity.
    It’s a way of rewarding them for legitimising apostasy.

  71. OldOzzie

    Climate gestures feel good — until they come back to bite – Chris Kenny


    If it has changed nothing else, global warming has up-ended political debate. What once was loosely based on fact and reason is now almost entirely reliant on feelings and posturing. Not so much about saving the planet, it is about identifying with that cause; it is not so much about solutions as gestures.

    This week we heard from a Uniting Church priest who presented a kind of post-Kyoto version of fire and brimstone.

    “We as the population would really like the government to do something about this before we all drown or melt,” Avril Hannah-Jones preached on ABC television. “This is an issue where I really wish the Prime Minister’s faith was having an impact on his policies because if you look at things the Pope has said … every major Christian institution worldwide is desperately concerned about climate change partly because it is going to hit the poorest people in the world hardest,” she added, telling us Pacific island nations would disappear. (In fact studies show Kiribati and Tuvalu are increasing in size.)

    Two factors have combined to elevate the climate debate again: the release of a new UN report and the Wentworth by-election. Both deserve examination.

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report is yet another call for global action, this time to confine global warming to 1.5C. Feeding into the troubled Paris Agreement process, this paper probably will disappear without much of a trace. Australia seems to be one of the few countries where Paris is much of an issue and Scott Morrison’s government, while sticking by the targets, says it will require no additional initiatives.

    So green-left parties, candidates and organisations are targeting this month’s Wentworth by-election in a desperate attempt to impose radical climate action on to the agenda. Leading independent Kerryn Phelps’s main strategy seems to be promoting an extreme-left climate position, knowing she could never be responsible for implementing it. Phelps gets to campaign on the vibe of radical action without confronting the consequences.

    She promotes a “six-point plan” on climate that says: “The government has no policy for action and Labor’s policy does not go far enough.” This an extraordinary statement given Labor has a reckless plan to more than double the renewable energy target to 50 per cent, threatening to visit South Australia’s energy self-harm on the entire national grid.

    Bill Shorten also promises a 45 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2030, almost doubling the Paris commitments. So how can Phelps top this for ambition or foolhardiness? “Transition to 100 per cent renewable energy,” she declares, saying she will match Labor’s 50 per cent target for 2030 along the way.

    Labor is running dead in Wentworth, with some of its experienced hands helping Phelps’s campaign in the hope she can do better than ALP candidate Tim Murray and topple the Liberals’ Dave Sharma on preferences. This means Labor indirectly is backing a candidate who wants to block the Adani coalmine and provide even more subsidies for renewable energy.

    Even the latest IPCC report is more realistic about the limitations of renewable energy than the prospective political players of Wentworth. It talks about how “large-scale storage systems” and “grid flexibility” including “demand response” will be needed to build “resilient grid systems”, and it worries about how “zero carbon electric grids” can power electrified transport systems. It recognises these looming problems that don’t yet have solutions — remember, “demand response” means rationing supplies in an organised fashion when there is not enough power.

    As we know, the IPCC is not a body prone to scepticism, but even amid its alarmism and activism it is more sceptical of 100 per cent renewable energy goals than Wentworth’s leading independent candidate: “It is hotly debated whether a fully renewable energy or electricity system, with or without biomass, is possible or not, and by what year.”

    If you can get beyond the relentlessly negative focus (earlier IPCC reports at least recognised some benefits from global warming, not to mention additional non-anthropogenic drivers), the recommendations for a “less meat-intensive diet” and the tendency to make emissions reduction sound painless (they don’t recommend we get rid of our pets, although studies have shown cats and dogs in the US generate upwards of 64 million tonnes of CO2 annually), there are gems buried in the report.

    It seems accidentally to have come up with the first scientific description of virtue-signalling, the posturing that has become synonymous with climate activism. “People are motivated to see themselves as morally right, which encourages mitigation actions, particularly when long-term goals are salient and behavioural costs are not too high,” it says. Yep, sanctimonious attitudes expressed at low personal cost with no decipherable outcomes: sounds like virtue-signalling to me.

    At some point political debate must focus on policy options and outcomes. Malcolm Turnbull lost the prime ministership two months ago, triggering the by-election, largely because he was trying to negotiate a bipartisan emissions reduction policy with Labor. Now his son, Alex, a self-declared “investor in energy” again has weighed in, urging voters to punish the Liberals.

    Turnbull the Younger describes the IPCC report as “terrifying” and suggests it will be “insane” for Australia not to be doing “something about this, and soon”. By something, presumably he means something other than the RETs, renewable subsidies and grants, Snowy Hydro 2.0 and other stored-hydro projects, large-scale batteries and commitment to the Paris targets.

    This is the problem for the activists; a decade of costly interventions, accelerating the retirement of coal and gas-fired generation has driven prices up and energy security down. We are experiencing the damaging consequences of climate action as the activists demand more. The worry for the Coalition is that Wentworth is one of the wealthiest electorates in the country and is susceptible to this post-material emotionalism.

    Ordinarily the implementation of sound public policy would involve pinpointing a problem, evaluating possible solutions, then assessing the costs and benefits of various options before deciding on a course of action. You would think such a rational process might be especially necessary when the policy issue is bound to have a considerable effect on vital areas of the economy, business expenses, cost-of-living pressures and the environmental sustainability of the planet.

    But in climate policy that has not been the case. It has been driven by gestures: diplomatic gestures at Kyoto and Paris that have led to negotiated emissions reductions targets; and political gestures at home designed to meet those targets and demonstrate green credentials to the public. The relative effectiveness of the measures has not been considered. How else could we have a situation where domestic electricity prices doubled to reduce CO2 emissions while global emissions continued to rise? That is the essence of futility. We have inflicted pain on ourselves for no environmental gain.

    Yet instead of demanding greater global action, the domestic debate obsesses over how Australia should inflict more pain on itself. This would make the activists and renewables investors feel good about themselves and their portfolios but there still would be no benefit to the planet because global emissions would continue to rise. If you want insanity, look no further.

    On the front page of The Australian Financial Review on Thursday we saw two stories with divergent perspectives on government intervention. One detailed how big business was looking to co-ordinate emissions reduction in the absence of a government scheme, while the other lamented how state and federal small-scale solar subsidies were creating “anarchy” and instability in the electricity market. What a mess.

    All of this for policies that are having no impact on climate here or anywhere else. Any sensible reading of the IPCC report tells us we are already doing far too much on attempted mitigation. Alarmist forecasts suggest we would be better served holding back and, if anything, examining options for adaptation.

    Still, while the Prime Minister refuses to create clear product differentiation by following Donald Trump and abandoning Paris, the hysterical attacks from activists and alarmists are probably doing that job for him.

    Whatever the nation’s energy dilemmas now, they would be compounded under the prescriptions of Turnbull the Younger, Phelps and Labor. Their aims, clearly, are more about attacking the Liberal Party than saving the planet. But this is a battle Morrison should enjoin heartily to bolster his political chances.

  72. [The editor of the Journal of Medical Ethics, Julian Savulescu] defended the article, saying the arguments in the paper were not new. “The novel contribution of this paper is not an argument in favour of infanticide … but rather their application in consideration of maternal and family interests. The paper also draws attention to the fact that infanticide is practised in the Netherlands.”

    He said that “more than ever, proper academic discussion and freedom are under threat from fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.

    He is right you now. Liberalism not only wants to freely kill the unborn, but it wants to freely discuss the merits of denying the protection of the law to other human beings it deems as not quite human beings, whether they are newborns, the disabled, and so on.

  73. Confused Old Misfit

    Mindfree
    #2837698, posted on October 13, 2018 at 12:09 am

    yes i’m back from eastern Canada Atlantic provinces – what a place!!

    I’m a refugee from Nova Scotia!!
    And I’m damned glad to be in Australia!!!!!

  74. struth

    There is no such thing as gay children.

    Kids aren’t meant to be bumping uglies until they’re legally adults.

    Older kids may fondle and experiment, but no one should and can tell whether a kid is going to be gay when they are older.

    If we accept this premise, we have already given into the p.e.d.o activism that will follow.

    It’s like calling the fuckers progressives because that’s what they want to be called.

    There is no such thing as a gay child.
    There is however, a thing called a sick fuck Prime Minister of no integrity.

  75. Leo G

    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

    Trust academics to deny right to life to people who have not attained knowledge. It helps to explain why some of that mob think it should be permissible to kill skeptics, when those skeptics question whether knowledge is really possible.

  76. OldOzzie

    Jitters as Wentworth poll locked at 50-50 – Andrew Clennell

    Liberal Party polling has the race for Wentworth at 50-50 in a worrying sign for Scott Morrison’s majority, as close allies of Malcolm Turnbull claimed yesterday that Alex Turnbull had gone rogue in his Facebook message urging a vote against the Liberals in next Saturday’s by-election.

    The Weekend Australian understands that Liberal polling has independent Kerryn Phelps a fraction of a percentage point ahead of the Liberals but that the situation is not as dire for the government as a “Voter Choice” poll published yesterday that had Dr Phelps on 55 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote.

    The race may still come down to who finishes second behind the Liberals in the seat. The government is hoping that with the Greens recommending preferences go to Labor ahead of Dr Phelps, Labor finishes second and Dr Phelps, who preferences the Liberals, gets eliminated.

    One senior Liberal source said yesterday it now appeared “likely” Ms Phelps would finish second and the two-party-preferred race would be boxed out between her and Liberal candidate Dave Sharma.

    At polling booths in recent days, Labor candidate Tim Murray has been photographed without a single assisting Labor campaign worker in sight, as the party manoeuvres to finish third in the seat. With parliament sitting next week, any move by the Prime Minister and other ministers to conduct a last-minute campaigning blitzkrieg is expected to happen later in the week.

    Supporters of former prime minister Mr Turnbull and Mr Morrison moved yesterday to distance Mr Turnbull from his son’s posting on Facebook and Twitter on Thursday where he argued for a vote against the Liberal Party.

    A professional investor based in Singapore, the younger Turnbull said in his video message that a general election was due next year anyway, providing an opportunity for voters in Wentworth to “send a signal about which way the Liberal Party is going and your displeasure at where it is going’’, adding that the party had been taken over by “extremists”.

    Right-wing Liberal MP Connie Fierravanti-Wells had her own message on Twitter for Turnbull Jr yesterday,: “@alexbhturnbull you forget that despite all the stacking, Daddy still needed conservative votes (incl monarchists) to get him over the line in his 2004 preselection battle against [Peter] King! Suggest you stick to wealth management & stop acting the fool! #auspol.”

    Mr Sharma told The Weekend Australian yesterday: “I really appreciate the support and advice I’ve had from Malcolm throughout this campaign and if elected, I hope to follow through on many of his policy priorities.”

    Mr Turnbull’s friend, former minister and the member for Reid, Craig Laundy, said: “I have had many conversations with Malcolm over the last few weeks since Sharma’s been preselected; he genuinely likes the bloke.

    “He and Lucy genuinely like Sharma. They absolutely want him to win.”

    Mr Morrison said yesterday: “What I know is Malcolm Turnbull wants people in Wentworth to be voting for the Liberal Party and for Dave Sharma.

    “Alex is his own man.”

  77. mh

    Candace Owens: Kanye understands exactly what he’s doing

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G4nxmk8WF2M

  78. Nick

    (a great move as it means management weakling Angelo Frangopoulos has been trebucheted out of the joint; Whittaker will hopefully give Sky’s on-air line-up some real muscle).

    You mean the same Angelo Frangopoulos who went out on a limb and initiated all these shows and presenters in the first place ? Don’t let your hatred confuse the facts Tom.

  79. OldOzzie

    Jitters as Wentworth poll locked at 50-50 – Andrew Clennell

    Liberal Party polling has the race for Wentworth at 50-50 in a worrying sign for Scott Morrison’s majority, as close allies of Malcolm Turnbull claimed yesterday that Alex Turnbull had gone rogue in his Facebook message urging a vote against the Liberals in next Saturday’s by-election.

    The Weekend Australian understands that Liberal polling has independent Kerryn Phelps a fraction of a percentage point ahead of the Liberals but that the situation is not as dire for the government as a “Voter Choice” poll published yesterday that had Dr Phelps on 55 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote.

    The race may still come down to who finishes second behind the Liberals in the seat. The government is hoping that with the Greens recommending preferences go to Labor ahead of Dr Phelps, Labor finishes second and Dr Phelps, who preferences the Liberals, gets eliminated.

    One senior Liberal source said yesterday it now appeared “likely” Ms Phelps would finish second and the two-party-preferred race would be boxed out between her and Liberal candidate Dave Sharma.

    At polling booths in recent days, Labor candidate Tim Murray has been photographed without a single assisting Labor campaign worker in sight, as the party manoeuvres to finish third in the seat. With parliament sitting next week, any move by the Prime Minister and other ministers to conduct a last-minute campaigning blitzkrieg is expected to happen later in the week.

    Supporters of former prime minister Mr Turnbull and Mr Morrison moved yesterday to distance Mr Turnbull from his son’s posting on Facebook and Twitter on Thursday where he argued for a vote against the Liberal Party.

    A professional investor based in Singapore, the younger Turnbull said in his video message that a general election was due next year anyway, providing an opportunity for voters in Wentworth to “send a signal about which way the Liberal Party is going and your displeasure at where it is going’’, adding that the party had been taken over by “extremists”.

    Right-wing Liberal MP Connie Fierravanti-Wells had her own message on Twitter for Turnbull Jr yesterday,: “alexbhturnbull you forget that despite all the stacking, Daddy still needed conservative votes (incl monarchists) to get him over the line in his 2004 preselection battle against [Peter] King! Suggest you stick to wealth management & stop acting the fool! ”

    Mr Sharma told The Weekend Australian yesterday: “I really appreciate the support and advice I’ve had from Malcolm throughout this campaign and if elected, I hope to follow through on many of his policy priorities.”

    Mr Turnbull’s friend, former minister and the member for Reid, Craig Laundy, said: “I have had many conversations with Malcolm over the last few weeks since Sharma’s been preselected; he genuinely likes the bloke.

    “He and Lucy genuinely like Sharma. They absolutely want him to win.”

    Mr Morrison said yesterday: “What I know is Malcolm Turnbull wants people in Wentworth to be voting for the Liberal Party and for Dave Sharma.

    “Alex is his own man.”

  80. OldOzzie

    Sorry for Double Post above – first one disappeared into the Ether again – not sure why

  81. Myrddin Seren

    Moloch on a roll:

    Antifa Website Promotes HOME ABORTION CLASSES to ‘Dismantle White Supremacist Bio-Medical Patriarchy’ In Response to Kavanaugh

    In the tradition of gynepunk and folk herbal medical practice, the Knoxville Abortion Doula Collective and Plume & Seal Botanical Medicine are offering a radical community healthcare weekend.This is a space for queer/trans folks and all bodies, but the workshop focus is centered on services for people with uterine systems.

    the tradition of gynepunk

    The F**k ?!

    There was a time only a few years ago when you would assume this was some sort of weird, bad-taste pisstake.

    But here we are…….

  82. I am bespoke

    The government is furious that the Ruddock review was leaked

    BS! They thought Shorten wouldn’t through Gillard under the bus.

  83. struth

    That bloody Kenny can sure waffle on, can’t he?

    As stated previously, he doesn’t want to come to the obvious conclusion based on the UN not believing in Climate Change, due to it only finding western carbon a problem, not socialist carbon (the more the better with that element) but waffles on getting half there.

    I don’t know if , in the end, having these people on our side is a help or a hindrance.

  84. C.L.’s diagnosis overnight was right on the money. This whole issue was confected out of whole cloth. No children or teachers are excluded from a school simply on the basis of their sexuality. This is being used to give a progressive hue to the new PM (so he has learned no thing), to further spit in the eye of the LNP base, and to blacken the name of the private, religious schooling sector. The LNP are irredeemable turds.

  85. Ivan Denisovich

    Liberalism not only wants to freely kill the unborn, but it wants to freely discuss the merits of denying the protection of the law to other human beings it deems as not quite human beings, whether they are newborns, the disabled, and so on.

    Yes, but Dover never forget – the slippery slope is a myth.

  86. Old School Conservative

    Typically, no media analysis of the Wentworth by-election comments on the desertion of Turnbull from the party that gave him the Prime Ministership of Australia (Gerard Henderson excepted).
    He jumps ship knowing that a loss by the Libs in Wentworth would be catastrophic for his party.
    His son weighs in with the same destruction in mind.
    Hewson wants the Libs to go down the gurgler too.

    If high profile Libs want the party destroyed, why wouldn’t the electorate?

  87. Myrddin Seren

    Mr Sharma told The Weekend Australian yesterday: “I really appreciate the support and advice I’ve had from Malcolm throughout this campaign and if elected, I hope to follow through on many of his policy priorities.”

    “He and Lucy genuinely like Sharma. They absolutely want him to win.”

    So that explains why this Sharma guy wants to chuck in his career and climb aboard the Parliamentary luxury cruise ship for a lifetime of free buffets and theatre, just in time to become part of the Permanent Irrelevant Opposition – he is another dripping-wet Photios spear carrier and leech.

    I hope the Liberals burn in Wentworth.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m a refugee from Nova Scotia!!
    And I’m damned glad to be in Australia!!!!!

    You can put your brain back in now Misfit.
    The Canadian Mind: A Culture So Open, Its ‘Brains Fall Out’

  89. struth

    ‘Dismantle White Supremacist Bio-Medical Patriarchy’ In Response to Kavanaugh

    Unfortunately as soon as they get the sniffles it’s off to the western doctor and western medicine.

    We should ban these people from it, as it seems are their wishes.

  90. Old School Conservative

    They absolutely want him to win

    Rubbish. If that was true, Turnbull would have stayed in his seat until the next general election.
    Sharma would then have time to ramp up his profile and go to the election as part of a team, and not be ambushed by a protest “its only one seat” vote.

    Turnbull is doing his best to scorch the earth behind his undignified departure.
    He is more anti-Lib than many Cat posters.

  91. Nick

    He and Lucy genuinely like Sharma. They absolutely want him to win.”

    An illustrative quote. Does anyone know whether Chloe Shorten liking a candidate is important ? Having Lucy as imprimatur says a lot about how Australia has been run for the past three years.

  92. Wentworth by-election

    What was once a safe lib seat will be borderline or fall to an ALP proxy.
    Reasons: Mal and Hyacinth Trumble, the libs are now a conservative free zone, no one knows what the
    stand for anymore.
    Wentworth will give us an idea of what will happen at the general election.
    If it falls, I would expect the next parliament to have 20 or so liberals in the lower house.

  93. Des Deskperson

    I can’t wait until tomorrow night to see the ABC’s ‘outstanding’ new drama ‘Pine Gap’. It may well be fresh, innovative and original in terms of plot, character and dialogue, but it’s been praised by ABC sycophant Graham Blundell – always an ominous sign – and the preview – thanks, egg – is not promising. Sample of dialogue include:

    ‘The world is a dangerous place’

    ‘I just want to do my bit’

    ‘Lady, we are in the same side.’ – just before a shag.

    as well as a hell of a lot of self-consciously ‘red alert/this is not a drill’ – jargon.

    Maybe people at the ABC actually talk in these kind of cliches; if so, they need to get out a bit.

    Luke Buckmaster – Australia’s best film and TV critic, even though he’s a leftie, gives it one star:

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/oct/12/pine-gap-review-lots-of-yakkety-yak-and-occasional-scenes-of-bonking

  94. Confused Old Misfit

    You can put your brain back in now Misfit.
    The Canadian Mind: A Culture So Open, Its ‘Brains Fall Out’

    Posted that yesterday BoN.
    The tragedy is the truth of it!
    They are smug, passive aggressive pricks.
    I’ve been out here over 35 years now so my mind has pretty well closed up! 😉

  95. struth

    And again, I would like to point out that we in Australia have won nothing, and that as I predicted, Trump would only quicken the pace of the left wing attack on our silly-vilisation here, as it has.

  96. rickw

    This is why I have such a low tolerance of Monty.

    He’s actually an evil piece of crap wrapped up in 100lbs of Krispy Kreme generated excess body fat!

  97. Trump has turned Cocaine Mitch and Graham into rockstars. Amazing.

  98. mh

    Trump currently holding a rally in Lebanon.

    President Donald Trump Holds MAGA Rally in Lebanon, OH

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JuNVKBRavU4

  99. Nick

    This whole issue was confected out of whole cloth. No children or teachers are excluded from a school simply on the basis of their sexuality. This is being used to give a progressive hue to the new PM (so he has learned no thing), to further spit in the eye of the LNP base, and to blacken the name of the private, religious schooling sector. The LNP are irredeemable turds.

    It’s not often I feel sorry for some of the Catholic hierarchy, though the chain of events defies logic.

    1. Catholic institutions are tolerant in a a variety of ways, at odds with the ‘rules’. A blind eye is apaparently shown to lesbians as Principals.
    2. Mischief makers deliberately leak a falsehood, lots of shots of statues of Mary, quotes from senior clergy in defence, yet the church neither started anything nor had plans to do anything differently, preferring peaceful coexistence.
    3. Labor, having introduced the legislation, condemns a consequence of it, though announced it won’t change it if elected, then recants.

  100. struth

    I used to work at Pine Gap.

    Even so, and maybe because I did, I wouldn’t watch a second of a tax payer funded left wing conspiracy theorist’s wank propaganda.

  101. Twostix

    A professional investor based in Singapore, the younger Turnbull

    A bugman extraordinaire.

  102. Nick

    Hyacinth Trumble,

    Both are overseas. I’m starting to wonder now.

  103. struth

    A professional investor based in Singapore, the younger Turnbull

    A receiver of corruptly gained funding, is more the description that fits.

  104. I predict that the Trump effect will result in an AUD worth less than 50c USD.
    At this point ALP/Algae support will collapse because trips to Bali will be unaffordable.
    The disruption will see the rise of our own mini-trump.
    The bad news is that we will have to wait 3-5 years for it all to happen.

  105. Twostix

    So we’re being lectured by the Australian political elite who live in Singapore and New York.

    What a rootless cosmopolitan bugman hive this place has become.

    Time for aclass war.

  106. H B Bear

    SloMo continues the long history of Lieboral capitulation. Clearly he was the right man for the job.

    As I have asked before, why do the Lieborals bother forming government at all?

  107. Time for aclass war.

    No. Time for a pogrom on the globule warmening religion.

  108. Tom

    Don’t let your hatred confuse the facts Tom.

    Nick, my observation about Sky News is simply that a senior news content guy with long experience in newspapers (Boris Whittaker) has replaced a management time-server (Angelo Frangopoulos) who’s been there 20 years. That is a huge change for the better. Hopefully, in a year’s time, Sky will be worth watching again.

  109. why do the Lieborals bother forming government at all?

    Dunna worry. They will NEVER do it again. (federally)

  110. struth

    Our woes are already being blamed on Trump and HIS trade war with China.

    Some imbicile was hosting Credlin last night and his guest, some young wanker impressed with himself growing a beard, was sure this was the case.
    This received no argument from the host.

    Our few so called right wing journalists aren’t that smart, let alone the left wing militant MSM.

  111. Yes, but Dover never forget – the slippery slope is a myth.

    This is no slippery slope, Ivan D., but the pursuit of liberal premises to their inevitable conclusion.

  112. H B Bear

    Des you are wasted in Canberra. You should be writing quality Australian drama and flogging it to Aunty ALPBC. There’s money in it, just ask Andrew Denton.

  113. rickw

    I predict that the Trump effect will result in an AUD worth less than 50c USD.

    I want to furiously strip out my last remaining AUD. I’m thinking that buying machinery and shipping it out might be the best method of recovery when we hit <50c?

  114. That bloody Kenny can sure waffle on, can’t he?

    True Struth but the epithet Turnbull the Younger was very good.

  115. Des Deskperson

    ‘I used to work at Pine Gap’

    Never been there, but any reference to t always reminds me of the responses given by the Hawke Government in the mid-80’s to two sloppily-worded questions on notice from the Democrats and/or the Nuclear Disarmament Party. IIRC, they went something like this:

    Q: does Australia know the purpose of Pine Gap?

    A: Yes

    Q; What is the purpose of the domes at Pine gap?

    A: To protect the equipment underneath.

  116. struth

    True Struth but the epithet Turnbull the Younger was very good.

    I refuse to go through it all again just to get to that, so I’ll believe you.

  117. Twostix

    , Trump would only quicken the pace of the left wing attack on our silly-vilisation here, as it has.

    Trump is going to punish Australia for our efforts to falsely imprison him and destroy his family and country.

    He’s starting to help the populations of europe throw off the shackles of their soy poisoned gamma male and catlady oppressors.

    He will do nothing for us. That is his punishment. We will be the Cuba of bugmanism. Kept around by the US frozen in lunacy as a reminder to the world of what was once widespread thought among the global elite.

  118. Confused Old Misfit

    So we’re being lectured by the Australian political elite who live in Singapore and New York.

    What a rootless cosmopolitan bugman hive this place has become.

    Time for aclass war.

    If our sycophantic media twerps would not give them space the bugmen would be ignored.
    The press truly are the enemy of the people.

  119. H B Bear

    A professional investor based in Singapore, the younger Turnbull

    Hereditary rent seeking bugman more like it. Davos Man in waiting.

  120. struth

    The Americans used to love to come out to Alice Springs for a stint in Pine Gap, and made a big impact on the town.

    Now they want to avoid the place and many have taken their children out of our schools as they are shocked at the standard.

  121. OlodOzzie

    Hillary Clinton the most miserable of the loser ghosts – Janet Albrechtsen

    Maybe voters in a parallel universe will enjoy hearing three former Australian prime ministers and one former treasurer, all sore losers of varying degrees, sledge each other.

    Malcolm Turnbull tore into Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott as “miserable ghosts”. Rudd responded with his usual weirdness, and Paul Keating didn’t want to be forgotten for his sharp tongue and self-aggrandisement. He skewered Turnbull for lacking convictions, suggesting we needed a microscope to find them.

    This week, Peter Costello ripped Turnbull for not delivering an economic narrative and the former treasurer who walked away from the leadership in 2007 wondered about the incumbent Prime Minister’s agenda, too.

    But when it comes to verbal sprays from former politicians, say a prayer for our American cousins. They are lumped with the sorest loser of them all, Hillary Rodham Clinton and her travelling road show of Donald Trump obsession.

    On the road again, most recently in Oxford, Hillary has been puffing her “Trump is bad” routine for years. There was understandable post-election grieving from Clinton in 2016, then a deluded longer version of Trump-stole-the-election in her What Happened autobiography, more of the same when she joined Julia Gillard on stage in March, and this week Clinton unloaded again with CNN’s Chris­tiane Amanpour. Next year, Hillary will take husband Bill on a 13-city national tour to repeat herself.

    It makes you wonder.

    After almost five decades of the Clintons scamming the American people with their political schtick, when will their dog-and-pony show end?

    Spare a thought for the Obamas, too. Not unreasonably, Barack Obama and wife Michelle may imag­ine it is their turn to be Democrat kingmakers. They were in the White House for a couple of terms too, after all. But they didn’t count on the Clintons’ unwavering belief in the Clintons.

    Hillary Clinton has become the standard-bearer for all that is wrong with modern politics. In Shattered, Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign, Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes recall the Democrat candidate for US president facing off against Trump saying: “I don’t understand what’s happening with the country. I can’t get my arms around it.”

    In her interview with Amanpour this week, Clinton remains genuinely clueless as to why voters are fed up with mainstream parties. But only Clintonian levels of delusion could blame the state of modern politics on a culture of tribalism without mentioning her own party’s embrace of identity politics.

    Politicians should listen and learn from Clinton, and vow never to behave like her. And because Clinton insists on speaking for women, the failed heir to the Democrat throne is an especially poor role model for women.

    Clinton’s problem is that she ingested Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals minus all the convictions, except the Clintonian thirst for power. Her college thesis on Alinsky, a famous 1970s community organiser from Chicago with convictions to improve the lot of poor, working-class people, is the wrong fit for Clinton the politician.

    Alinsky’s book, which laid down 13 guiding rules for radicals to fight the establishment, says: “The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”

    It is not just that Clinton is the establishment and has been for almost five decades. Her obsession with all things Trump is not worthy of Alinsky’s ninth rule: that activists should keep in mind “the threat is more terrifying than the thing itself”.

    Her constant refrain about Trump “degrading the rule of law” and “delegitimising our elections” may mobilise parts of the Democrat base, but it is predicated on treating voters as dolts. It is especially condescending this week after her party threw everything at Brett Kavanaugh to keep him off the US Supreme Court bench.

    Democrats trashed the presumption of innocence while the Democrats’ cheer squad at The New York Times and The Washington Post said Kavanaugh’s problem was that he was nominated by a president who lost the popular vote. Clinton’s side of politics has a bigger problem with the US constitution than Trump does.

    Alinsky said activists should go after people, not institutions, because people hurt faster than institutions. But Clinton’s efforts to make it all about Trump flopped during the presidential campaign and continue to bomb.

    Right after accusing Trump of playing to the “white-nationalist gut” Clinton told Amanpour that she “would love to see us return to civility”. Does she mean the kind of civility that saw her attack Trump voters as “deplorables”? Or the kind of civility that saw Democrats try to ruin Kavanaugh personally because they couldn’t challenge his professional credentials?

    We should be equally concerned about Clinton’s suggestion to Amanpour that a Democrat win in 2020 would return things to a “regular order”. The truth is that the Clintons have a few things in common with Trump.

    In the first season of Slate’s Slow Burn podcast series, host Leon Neyfakh takes us back to the first few years of the Clinton White House. This was when “slick Willy” and his wife reflexively inclined to secrecy, thought themselves under siege from conspiracy theories. They didn’t trust the permanent staff of the White House so they trucked in their own loyalists known as FOBs — Friends of Bill — from Little Rock, Arkansas, to replace civil servants.

    In that first year the Clintons became known as the Capitol Hillbillies. They faced scandal after scandal, from the Whitewater debacle to Travelgate, when the president sacked all officials in the travel office as a warning shot to other White House staff.

    From his dodging the draft, to not inhaling and, later, not having sexual relations with that woman Monica Lewinsky, Hillary stood with Bill every step of his dissembling way. As the Slow Burnseries reminds us, millions of Americans saw the Clintons as callous, self-serving, shifty, shady and corrupt.

    Back then The Wall Street Journal said “how an administration deals with its critics is a basic test of its character and mores”. Like Trump, the Clintons don’t deal well with criticism.

    Her interview this week is a miserable reminder that a return to “regular order” means liberal doses of Clintonian hypocrisy. Clinton told a compliant Amanpour that allegations of sexual misconduct against her husband were different to those aimed at Trump and Kavanaugh. She said judicial activism was just fine when done by left-liberal judges. The woman who lied about being under sniper fire in Bosnia and the circumstances of Benghazi attacked Trump’s tenuous relationship with the facts.

    She said Trump was too quick to cosy up to Russia’s Vladimir Putin while ignoring her own early Russia reset with Putin when she became secretary of state. And nowhere did Clinton address the fact that while she trashed the North American Free Trade Agreement as a rotten deal for Americans, Trump delivered a new deal. No word about Trump and that booming US economy, either.

    Regular order means more delusion, too. Clinton still blames her loss on the Russians, FBI director James Comey and white women who voted for Trump. Be grateful for small mercies that she didn’t repeat her view that married white women voted for Trump because of “ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever” does.

    Clinton chirped to Amanpour this week that she doesn’t want their 13-city speaking tour to be too serious “because I think a lot of people will be coming just to see us, to show their support, to be part of a gathering of like-minded folks”.

    Though husband and wife sought different things from public life — Bill was in it for public adoration and private liaisons while Hillary wanted money and power — the Clintons have only ever been about the Clintons.

    Next year, Hillary will be travelling across the US with Bill in tow, still blaming Trump for her 2016 loss. Maybe it is time the failed presidential candidate ingested Alinsky’s seventh rule of political activism: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

  122. lotocoti

    It may well be fresh, innovative and original…

    Or it could follow the template provided by Network (1976).
    The running characters are a crusty but benign ex-Supreme Court Justice, presumably Oliver Wendell Holmes by way of Dr. Zorba.
    There is a beautiful girl graduate student and the local district attorney who is brilliant and
    sometimes cuts corners —
    Next one —
    The second one is called The Amazon Squad —
    Lady cops?
    The running characters are a crusty but benign police lieutenant who’s always getting heat from the
    Commissioner, a hard-nosed, hard-drinking detective who thinks women belong in the kitchen, and
    a brilliant and beautiful young girl cop fighting the feminist battle on the force —
    Next one —

  123. Boambee John

    Ubique
    #2837792, posted on October 13, 2018 at 8:34 am
    Australian academics advocating for the right to murder new born babies. Reacting to a storm of outrage, they point out it’s already legal in the Netherlands.

    Parents who can hold their new born in their arms and decide to kill it should be required to give the child up for adoption, then be sterilised. They clearly are psychologically unsuitable for parenthood.

  124. John Constantine

    The australian dollar is already effectively something worth as much as a spoken promise by shorten.

    People still say that the chicom dogbox developers are fools, because they have spent money building vertical slums in australias capital cities that they can’t take back to chicom central.

    I contend that what the chicom developers were actually selling was the amenity of australias cities, access to a million dollar net present value of a lifetimes socialised medical care, a promise of old age care and pension and free rights to congest australias roads streets and public transport.

    Throwing up a crappy dogbox, using chicom materials, chicom workers, permits from chicom bribed aussie officials was just the el cheapo wrapping that the real deal was disguised in.

    Comrades, when a chicom billionaire deals with a snivelling weasel of a corrupt australian quisling kleprocrat, who is going to get a fraction of a cent in the dollar out of it and who is going to win?.

    Maaaaaaaaates.

  125. RobK

    Q; What is the purpose of the domes at Pine gap?

    A: To protect the equipment underneath.


    That’s a keeper.😊

  126. C.L.

    A professional investor based in Singapore

    So he’s a punter.

  127. struth

    I am not allowed to specifically talk about Pine Gap, however the periphery goings on I can to some degree.
    Always interesting stuff.

    Like the embarrassment I felt being Australian when one bloke I know, coming from the states and assuming as he was heading into the desert, that he would bring his 4wd pick up truck out.
    Many yanks brought their own cars out.
    Anyway, the suspension was raised and the tyres were chunky and protruded out past the guard by a few millimetres, so he couldn’t get it registered.

    The fucktards at the inspection centre just laughed at him.

    All this while blackfellas were driving past with cars unlicenced, pissed, without windscreens and lights……………………….stacked in like sardines.

  128. OlodOzzie

    Hillary Clinton the most miserable of the loser ghosts – Janet Albrechtsen

    Maybe voters in a parallel universe will enjoy hearing three former Australian prime ministers and one former treasurer, all sore losers of varying degrees, sledge each other.

    Malcolm Turnbull tore into Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott as “miserable ghosts”. Rudd responded with his usual weirdness, and Paul Keating didn’t want to be forgotten for his sharp tongue and self-aggrandisement. He skewered Turnbull for lacking convictions, suggesting we needed a microscope to find them.

    This week, Peter Costello ripped Turnbull for not delivering an economic narrative and the former treasurer who walked away from the leadership in 2007 wondered about the incumbent Prime Minister’s agenda, too.

    But when it comes to verbal sprays from former politicians, say a prayer for our American cousins. They are lumped with the sorest loser of them all, Hillary Rodham Clinton and her travelling road show of Donald Trump obsession.

    On the road again, most recently in Oxford, Hillary has been puffing her “Trump is bad” routine for years. There was understandable post-election grieving from Clinton in 2016, then a deluded longer version of Trump-stole-the-election in her What Happened autobiography, more of the same when she joined Julia Gillard on stage in March, and this week Clinton unloaded again with CNN’s Chris­tiane Amanpour. Next year, Hillary will take husband Bill on a 13-city national tour to repeat herself.

    It makes you wonder.

    After almost five decades of the Clintons scamming the American people with their political schtick, when will their dog-and-pony show end?

    Spare a thought for the Obamas, too. Not unreasonably, Barack Obama and wife Michelle may imag­ine it is their turn to be Democrat kingmakers. They were in the White House for a couple of terms too, after all. But they didn’t count on the Clintons’ unwavering belief in the Clintons.

    Hillary Clinton has become the standard-bearer for all that is wrong with modern politics. In Shattered, Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign, Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes recall the Democrat candidate for US president facing off against Trump saying: “I don’t understand what’s happening with the country. I can’t get my arms around it.”

    In her interview with Amanpour this week, Clinton remains genuinely clueless as to why voters are fed up with mainstream parties. But only Clintonian levels of delusion could blame the state of modern politics on a culture of tribalism without mentioning her own party’s embrace of identity politics.

    Politicians should listen and learn from Clinton, and vow never to behave like her. And because Clinton insists on speaking for women, the failed heir to the Democrat throne is an especially poor role model for women.

    Clinton’s problem is that she ingested Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals minus all the convictions, except the Clintonian thirst for power. Her college thesis on Alinsky, a famous 1970s community organiser from Chicago with convictions to improve the lot of poor, working-class people, is the wrong fit for Clinton the politician.

    Alinsky’s book, which laid down 13 guiding rules for radicals to fight the establishment, says: “The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”

    It is not just that Clinton is the establishment and has been for almost five decades. Her obsession with all things Trump is not worthy of Alinsky’s ninth rule: that activists should keep in mind “the threat is more terrifying than the thing itself”.

    Her constant refrain about Trump “degrading the rule of law” and “delegitimising our elections” may mobilise parts of the Democrat base, but it is predicated on treating voters as dolts. It is especially condescending this week after her party threw everything at Brett Kavanaugh to keep him off the US Supreme Court bench.

    Democrats trashed the presumption of innocence while the Democrats’ cheer squad at The New York Times and The Washington Post said Kavanaugh’s problem was that he was nominated by a president who lost the popular vote. Clinton’s side of politics has a bigger problem with the US constitution than Trump does.

    Alinsky said activists should go after people, not institutions, because people hurt faster than institutions. But Clinton’s efforts to make it all about Trump flopped during the presidential campaign and continue to bomb.

    Right after accusing Trump of playing to the “white-nationalist gut” Clinton told Amanpour that she “would love to see us return to civility”. Does she mean the kind of civility that saw her attack Trump voters as “deplorables”? Or the kind of civility that saw Democrats try to ruin Kavanaugh personally because they couldn’t challenge his professional credentials?

    We should be equally concerned about Clinton’s suggestion to Amanpour that a Democrat win in 2020 would return things to a “regular order”. The truth is that the Clintons have a few things in common with Trump.

    In the first season of Slate’s Slow Burn podcast series, host Leon Neyfakh takes us back to the first few years of the Clinton White House. This was when “slick Willy” and his wife reflexively inclined to secrecy, thought themselves under siege from conspiracy theories. They didn’t trust the permanent staff of the White House so they trucked in their own loyalists known as FOBs — Friends of Bill — from Little Rock, Arkansas, to replace civil servants.

    In that first year the Clintons became known as the Capitol Hillbillies. They faced scandal after scandal, from the Whitewater debacle to Travelgate, when the president sacked all officials in the travel office as a warning shot to other White House staff.

    From his dodging the draft, to not inhaling and, later, not having sexual relations with that woman Monica Lewinsky, Hillary stood with Bill every step of his dissembling way. As the Slow Burnseries reminds us, millions of Americans saw the Clintons as callous, self-serving, shifty, shady and corrupt.

    Back then The Wall Street Journal said “how an administration deals with its critics is a basic test of its character and mores”. Like Trump, the Clintons don’t deal well with criticism.

    Her interview this week is a miserable reminder that a return to “regular order” means liberal doses of Clintonian hypocrisy. Clinton told a compliant Amanpour that allegations of sexual misconduct against her husband were different to those aimed at Trump and Kavanaugh. She said judicial activism was just fine when done by left-liberal judges. The woman who lied about being under sniper fire in Bosnia and the circumstances of Benghazi attacked Trump’s tenuous relationship with the facts.

    She said Trump was too quick to cosy up to Russia’s Vladimir Putin while ignoring her own early Russia reset with Putin when she became secretary of state. And nowhere did Clinton address the fact that while she trashed the North American Free Trade Agreement as a rotten deal for Americans, Trump delivered a new deal. No word about Trump and that booming US economy, either.

    Regular order means more delusion, too. Clinton still blames her loss on the Russians, FBI director James Comey and white women who voted for Trump. Be grateful for small mercies that she didn’t repeat her view that married white women voted for Trump because of “ongoing pressure to vote the way that your husband, your boss, your son, whoever” does.

    Clinton chirped to Amanpour this week that she doesn’t want their 13-city speaking tour to be too serious “because I think a lot of people will be coming just to see us, to show their support, to be part of a gathering of like-minded folks”.

    Though husband and wife sought different things from public life — Bill was in it for public adoration and private liaisons while Hillary wanted money and power — the Clintons have only ever been about the Clintons.

    Next year, Hillary will be travelling across the US with Bill in tow, still blaming Trump for her 2016 loss. Maybe it is time the failed presidential candidate ingested Alinsky’s seventh rule of political activism: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

  129. Twostix

    In twenty years michael moore will come and do propaganda documentaries on how excellent australia’s 100% solar electricity grid is and our amazing human rights tribunerals that exist in each suburb to protect human rights.

    Americans will laugh and cite our 60% blackout rates and people living on dirt floored hovels. Then they’ll segue out into the general political repession of dissidents but will go nowhere because thst is tacitly supported by the US left.

    Wealthy 20 something US leftist college kids will do a gap year in inner city Sydney and return home saying things like “australians are such a simple happy people, they actually like bugmanism otherwise they wouldn’t have it”.

    China will ask us hang into a few missiles for it.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    I can’t wait until tomorrow night to see the ABC’s ‘outstanding’ new drama ‘Pine Gap’.

    Such enthusiasm must stem from the fact that a double agent is unmasked inside the base and it is none other than Dr. Blake.

  131. He’s starting to help the populations of europe throw off the shackles of their soy poisoned gamma male and catlady oppressors.

    The Great Liberator.

    He will do nothing for us. That is his punishment. We will be the Cuba of bugmanism. Kept around by the US frozen in lunacy as a reminder to the world of what was once widespread thought among the global elite.

    What a horrible thought. Nevertheless, we must free ourselves of the bugman.

  132. Twostix

    Vermont school gives fifth-graders sexuality survey, stoking outrage among parents
    Seppo standards.

    Seppo standards? You mean that they’re actually outraged?

    Our (out of town) state school is doing a module on sexuality for fifth grade starting this year. Not even a whimper in response.

  133. Confused Old Misfit

    Nevertheless, we must free ourselves of the bugman.

    A good start would be not expecting anyone to “do something for us” but to get off our far arses and do for ourselves.

  134. Mindfree

    I’m a refugee from Nova Scotia!!
    And I’m damned glad to be in Australia!!!!

    My wife is a refugee from British Columbia – it seems a lot of Canadian born Australians think the same thing

    I tell her give it 5 years and there will be no difference between the two countries except the weather

  135. Confused Old Misfit

    Not even a whimper in response.

    If not, why not?
    This is the arena in which we must stand up and be counted.
    You say “our”. It’s up to you.

  136. Nevertheless, we must free ourselves of the bugman.

    CALL Rambler Pest & Bugman Control Service.
    We employ the latest and most effective control mechanisms (firing squads).

  137. Geriatric Mayfly

    Anyway, the suspension was raised and the tyres were chunky and protruded out past the guard by a few millimetres, so he couldn’t get it registered.
    All this while blackfellas were driving past with cars unlicenced, pissed, without windscreens and lights……………………….stacked in like sardines.

    Exactly the same happened to a mate, who kept NT registration for “tourist purposes.” One annual check up, sent packing; while boongmobiles in various states of dilapidation plied the roads unchallenged.

  138. duncanm

    Tom
    #2837742, posted on October 13, 2018 at 4:20 am
    .. Leak Junior is hitting it so far out of the park as Australia’s most consequential cartoonist ..

    he truly is.

    It seems that life’s tragedies have spurred this young man to greatness. There’s a sense of anger at the idiocy of the world behind his cartoons.

    I hope he continues.

  139. C.L.

    Swedish diversity latest:

    The Voice of Europe reports, via Instapundit:

    Migrant celebrates Swedish citizenship by r-ping woman and tells her: ‘Now I can do what I want’

    A 29-year-old migrant has been sentenced to prison for r-ping a woman at a public bath on the island Ingarö in the archipelago outside Stockholm, Fria Tider reports.

    He pushed the woman, who has insufficient swimming skills, into the water off a concrete bathing pier, and then carried out the r-pe in the water, according to the judgment.

    When she tried to call for help, he pulled her hair and pulled her under the surface on several occasions. He also bit the woman, who was crying and terrified of drowning, when she begged him to stop.

    Afterwards he told her she could not speak to anyone, that she would stay silent and that he could do what he wanted to her because he had recently become a Swedish citizen.

    He also claimed that the intercourse had been voluntary – a statement which the district court did not accept.

    He then admitted that what he had done was wrong – “haram” – and said that he had suggested the woman should go see an Imam.

    “When you are a female Muslim, you remain a virgin until you marry”, he said. And added that when the sun went up he asked Allah for forgiveness.

    The local court sentenced the 29-year-old to three years imprisonment for rape. He will also pay €12000 in damages to the woman.

    However, the man cannot be expelled according to current legislation – because he is now a Swedish citizen.

  140. Twostix

    I hate all men and wish all men were dead

    Hahaha the life of a leftwing gamma male.

    Monty: This is your life.

  141. Boambee John

    Leo G at 0942

    Trust academics to deny right to life to people who have not attained knowledge.

    A lot of so-called “academics” seem not to have attained knowledge.

    Would they be happy if others advocated removing their right to life on that ground?

  142. Myrddin Seren

    At this point ALP/Algae support will collapse because trips to Bali will be unaffordable.

    The ACTU/Industry Super Funds will buy resorts in Bali and for his second election Shorten will offer every Prole and Wukka a voucher for a free trip, a tattoo of their choice and a cocktail at the resort.

    Shorten will be returned in a landslide and the Coalition will be reduced to 15 seats, campaigning on a platform of banning air travel and electricity because Muh Climate.

  143. Twostix

    If not, why not?
    This is the arena in which we must stand up and be counted.
    You say “our”. It’s up to you

    What does that even mean?

    Our kids don’t go to that nonsense. We can’t help that nobody else gives a shit.

  144. Confused Old Misfit

    while boongmobiles in various states of dilapidation plied the roads unchallenged.

    It’s not governments of whatever stripe that cause this kind of problem. It’s individual pusillanimous human beings not doing the job they were hired to do. It’s their managers who, for fear of repercussions, fail to their jobs. It’s the department heads who don’t want a rocking boat. It’s the politician who wants to stay on the gravy train.
    All individual humans hiding behind institutional barriers.

  145. Twostix

    I hate all men and wish all men were dead

    Now know why monty spends his days and nights hiding out here.

  146. Confused Old Misfit

    What does that even mean?

    Don’t be obtuse.
    However, since you insist on being thick, what it means is: If YOU, Twostix, won’t protest it why should anyone else. You used a possessive pronoun when referring to the school so one might think you had some involvement with it.
    It means: if you are serious about resisting progressivism then the local school board is a good place to start.
    Apparently your resistance is passive as I gather your children don’t attend “our” state school.
    As far as I’m concerned passive resistance is no better than tacit acceptance.

  147. Tel

    Hahaha the life of a leftwing gamma male.

    My first thought is that she has no husband, she yelled at the blank wall and then filled in the story from her imagination. The comment is for the purpose of big-noting herself to her feminist buddies.

    However, perhaps there could be a husband. If he has stayed with her this long, he enjoys the abuse. I know, it is victim blaming, but seriously he has a choice at this stage in life and he chose to sit and get blasted for half an hour. I feel sorry for the guy but if you spend your life acting like a door mat, someone will come and walk all over you.

  148. duncanm

    Royal wedding …
    Kate has really nice legs:

    Kate has a Marilyn moment! Gust of wind lifts the Duchess’ dress as she leaves St George’s Chapel.

    Queen looking at her own pegs: “Mine used to look that good”

  149. Confused Old Misfit

    Royal wedding …
    Kate has really nice legs:

    There you are CL! And you are right! She is gorgeous!

  150. zyconoclast

    Remarks by Vice President Pence At Conference On Prosperity And Security In Central America

    Your countries have faced the scourge of drug trafficking, gang violence and corruption for decades. Their effects have radiated outward, not just affecting your people but affecting your neighbors and affecting our nation, literally touching every nation in our hemisphere.

    Here in the United States, the American people see the terrible cost of drugs, of gang violence, of illegal immigration every day.

    Over the last year alone, more than 225,000 Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Salvadorans have left their homes and made the often-dangerous journey to attempt to illegally enter the southern border of the United States. They accounted for more than half of all illegal immigrants apprehended at our southern border last year.

    And these numbers are growing. The number of people from El Salvador who tried to enter the United States illegally has declined, but the number from Honduras is up 61 percent. The number from Guatemala has increased by 75 percent.

    Our administration, through our Department of Homeland Security, has taken — and will continue to take — decisive action to confront this crisis. We’ve been making historic investments in border security and internal enforcement.

    We’re enforcing our immigration laws with renewed vigor and resources. And we’re working with the United States Congress to close the loopholes that human traffickers often use to entice vulnerable families to make the dangerous journey, at risk to themselves and their children, to come north.

  151. zyconoclast

    Schools should educate children about colonialism and legacy of slave trade, says Jeremy Corbyn

    Under Labour’s plans, the new trust would “tell the story of how slavery interrupted a rich African and black history” through visits to historic sites and study of pre-colonial periods.

  152. zyconoclast

    Japan unveils plan to attract more foreign workers

    Japan on Friday unveiled a plan to attract more foreign blue-collar workers, as the world’s number-three economy battles a crippling labour shortage caused by an ageing and shrinking population.

    The plan reportedly aims to fill gaping shortages in sectors such as agriculture, nursing, construction, hotels and shipbuilding.

    Under the draft legislation, foreign nationals with skills in fields identified as facing shortages would be awarded a visa allowing them to work for up to five years.

    Foreign workers in those fields who hold stronger qualifications and pass a Japanese language test will also be allowed to bring family members and can obtain permanent residency status.

    Government spokesman Yoshihide Suga told reporters on Friday that the bill would be submitted to parliament “at the earliest possible time,” with a possible launch in April.

    Japan has traditionally been cautious about accepting unskilled workers from abroad and currently limits residential status to highly skilled professionals.

    The only exception to this rule is for South Americans of Japanese descent.

    And Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s government has stressed the reforms are not intended as a wholesale overhaul of Japanese immigration policy, and mass immigration is not expected.

    Japan will not rely heavily on foreign immigrants and the policy “remains unchanged,” Suga said, asked if this represented a drastic shift in immigration policy towards accepting a large number of foreigners.

    Businesses have long lobbied for looser immigration rules, saying they struggle to find workers in a country where unemployment hovers around 2.5 percent and there are 163 job vacancies to every 100 job seekers.

    The government has not set a target for foreign workers under the new proposals, although local media put the figure at more than 500,000 people by 2025.

    According to government figures, there were 1.28 million foreign workers in Japan in 2017 — twice as many as a decade ago.

    But more than 450,000 of those are foreign spouses of Japanese citizens, ethnic Koreans long settled in Japan, or foreigners of Japanese descent, rather than workers coming to Japan to seek jobs.

    A further 300,000 are students, who are allowed to work part-time during their studies but are expected to return home afterwards.

    Japan had fewer than 240,000 foreign skilled workers and just over 250,000 foreign trainees in the country in late 2017, according to government figures.

    It has bilateral deals admitting limited numbers of nurses and care workers from other parts of Asia.

  153. Leo G

    A lot of so-called “academics” seem not to have attained knowledge.
    Would they be happy if others advocated removing their right to life on that ground?

    Peer-reviewed right to life might appeal to some. Presently, they must satisfy themselves with killing the publication of colleagues’ submissions to learned journals.

  154. Nick

    Under Labour’s plans, the new trust would “tell the story of how slavery interrupted a rich African and black history” through visits to historic sites and study of pre-colonial periods.

    A few facts will go missing,
    1. The British worked actively to abolish slavery.
    2. No slaves could have left Africa without the connivance of their own people.

  155. OldOzzie

    Whisky drinkers rejoice in the return of Glenlivet

    Could taking your flagship off the shelves and replacing it with a lesser product turn out to be a marketing masterstroke? Glenlivet, a 194-year-old scotch whisky brand, is about to find out.

    Three years after the Speyside distillery stopped distributing The Glenlivet 12 Year Old because they, um, ran out, the much loved whisky is back, with Australia to receive one of the first shipments.

    The move to take it off the shelves sparked panic buying and some Glenlivet fans were outraged when Founders Reserve, a non-age statement whisky, was wheeled out in its place.

    Glenlivet ambassador Sinea Weintz said the new batch was as good as it ever was and the whisky was worth the wait.

    “When I started all I would hear is ‘When is the 12 coming back?'” Ms Weintz said. “Customers were very sad. There has been a lot of positive response, trade is very happy. The signs are very positive”.

    In a twist, Glenlivet’s owners Pernod Ricard will keep Founders Reserve on the shelf next to its older sibling as a way of introducing new drinkers to the spirit that received very good reviews from a young London-based writer known as Charles Dickens.

    Ms Weintz differentiates the two by pointing out that although both versions are traditional Speyside whiskys, the 12 Year Old has notes of pineapple while the entry level version can display hints of apple, pear and vanilla.

    For those who like to pair their whisky with food, Glenlivet’s ambassador recommends chocolate and salted caramel with the Founders Reserve while the 12 Year Old is delicate enough to pair with fish soup or apple pie.

    Whisky enthusiast Ryan Lane, general manager of Brisbane bar The Gresham, welcomed its return, saying it was hard to pinpoint a typical Glenlivet drinker.

    “It’s an iconic malt whisky brand for sure” he said. “It’s quite a broad demographic. We have a large corporate clientele but young women are just as likely to order one. We are seeing a lot of people give it a go.”

    Glenlivet’s owner Pernod Richard says the single malt category has been growing at 19.7 per cent each year. The Gresham’s Mr Lane said he totally understood why the 12 had to be held back.

    “Whisky is going gangbusters. They could never have predicted demand would be so strong” he said.

    Mr Lane says he is in no hurry to replace the Founders Reserve either, which he describes as very solid for a no-age statement whisky. And by adding another bottle of Glenlivet to his collection behind the bar, he may also have underscored the drinks giant’s strategy.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    The Queen always has her hems weighted down.

    A smart lady, not like the brazen hussies who mark the current decline of the family.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    The australian dollar is already effectively something worth as much as a spoken promise by shorten.

    Shorten should join the Zanu PF. A little boot polish and he’d fit right in.

    Zimbabwe Spirals Into Economic Chaos As Fears Of Another Hyperinflation Begin To Spark (12 Oct)

    Currently, citizens of Zimbabwe are stocking up on essentials such as bread, beef, cooking oil and other necessities in anticipation of a looming economic disaster. It has reached a point where certain items are beginning to be rationed such as bottled water and beer.

    On Wednesday, finance and economic development Minister Prof Mthuli Ncube attempted to reassure the public that their money would be safe in the banks, saying a legal instrument would be put in place to ensure that the government does not raid their accounts like it did in 2008.

    Prof. Ncube should be awarded the Ig Nobel prize for economics. When the Ig Nobel committee runs out of old 10 trillion Zim dollar notes, they only have to wait a while for the 10 trillion New Zim dollar notes to be printed.

  158. Myrddin Seren

    A view from inside the eyewall of Hurricane Michael.

    This is the calm bit in between the storm – and then more storm.

  159. I hope the Liberals burn in Wentworth.

    Myrrdin, if you want to know “who” is going to win the Wentworth by-election, it’s real easy.
    Simply go have a read of the Wikipedia pages for both Sharma and Phelps.

    Some political organisations are far too clever to put all their eggs in one basket.

  160. destroyer D69

    The only hope we have is for the Governor General to excercise powers under S5 and S57 of the constitution and dismiss both houses and place Aus in administration, or caretaker mode with only supply for essential services untill a new government can be elected with a true majority support . Desperate times need desperate solutions.

  161. Confused Old Misfit

    zyconoclast
    #2837938, posted on October 13, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Japan unveils plan to attract more foreign workers

    From the posted article that appears to be a reasonable immigration policy. Indeed, one that the Australian Government would be wise to follow.
    It appears to be highly discriminatory and targeted.
    I liked this line on particular: “…pass a Japanese language test …”

  162. Top Ender

    Thanks Eyrie, for the printer link.

  163. OldOzzie

    Police Federation Chairman: Strip Knighthood from Met Boss Who Hid in Car During Westminster Attack

    The Chairman of the Sussex Police Federation has called on Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Sir Craig Mackey to resign and be stripped of his knighthood and Queen’s Police Medal.

    “The impact of [Sir Craig’s] actions on the rank-and-file police officers will do nothing to dispel the feeling that the bosses don’t care about the troops and don’t understand what they do,” Inspector Matt Webb wrote in The Telegraph.

    Sir Craig was Acting Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police when radical Islamic terrorist Khalid Masood ran down pedestrians outside the Palace of Westminster before emerging from his vehicle to fatally assault unarmed PC Keith Palmer at the gates — and was actually present at the scene when the attack unfolded, having just been in a meeting with then-police minister Brandon Lewis.

    He did not intervene, however, remaining in his car with the doors locked and watching as the unarmed British Army veteran was killed before being driven away, telling an inquest he had “no protective equipment, no radio, [and] two colleagues with me who [were] quite distressed”.

    London Police Boss Locked Doors and Watched Westminster Attack Unfold From Car Window https://t.co/oAPTcna5NA

    — Breitbart London (@BreitbartLondon) October 8, 2018

    “[W]hether he had equipment or not, the right thing to do would have been to get out and at least try to help,” wrote Inspector Webb.

    “Yelling at Masood might have split his attention, might have helped other officers intervene, might have given others a little more time to arrive on scene. Stepping up – rather than driving away – might have made a difference to PC Palmer, or for all Sir Craig knew, might have helped save other members of the public who could have found themselves in Masood’s path.

    “And even if it did neither, it would still have been the right thing to do.”

    The Police Federation leader, like many other serving and former police officers, compared Sir Craig’s actions unfavourably to those of PC Charlie Guenigault, the equally unarmed hero officer who was stabbed multiple times tackling the London Bridge terrorists while off-duty and wearing only his street clothes.

    “The worrying truth is… Deputy Commissioner Mackey failed to live up to those values and to the oath of office he took at the start of his career,” Webb concluded.

    “He failed to do all he could to protect others, including his fellow officer, he failed to do the right thing and failed to respect the office of Constable.

    “He should consider his position: not retire in December but go now because he does not deserve to wear the same uniform as police officers across the country. He should be stripped of his Knighthood and Queen’s Police Medal.”

    Many have accused him outright of “cowardice”, demanding an investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) or even prosecution for neglect of duty.

  164. Myrddin Seren

    Holy Hannah

    Cornpone Killary tossing women who credibly accused Bubba of rape and sexual assault under the bus.

  165. OldOzzie

    Delingpole: ‘Who Drew It?’ Trump Queries IPCC’s $38.4 Trillion Ransom Note

    At the beginning of the week, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) presented the world with a $38.4 trillion ransom note: pay us da money or Gaia gets it.

    President Trump’s response: “Who drew it?”

    That is, “Why should I trust these people?”

  166. Roger

    I see Morrison has finally found a script to read from on the religious freedom of non-state schools.

    Bill Shorten’s.

  167. OldOzzie

    President Trump Delivers a Message on Hurricane Michael Recovery…

    People have no idea how hard Hurricane Michael has hit the great state of Georgia. I will be visiting both Florida and Georgia early next week. We are working very hard on every area and every state that was hit – we are with you!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 12, 2018

  168. classical_hero

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1050872587486720000.html
    The source of the story about the “missing” “journalist” from Saudi Arabia is a guy who was underneath the guy who tried to assassinate the current ruler of Saudi Arabia. Looks like an attempted smear. I put quotes around journalist because the guy wants a theocracy in Saudi Arabia. Basically a propagandist for terrorists.

  169. stackja

    Nick – SMH schools story getting sillier and sillier. ALP don’t care about anything but winning. ALP will change any policy from one day to next. LNP is expected to be consistent. MSM useless as usual.

  170. stackja

    Roger – BS policy on SMH schools story changes daily.

  171. Ubique;

    He defended the article, saying the arguments in the paper were not new. “The novel contribution of this paper is not an argument in favour of infanticide … but rather their application in consideration of maternal and family interests. The paper also draws attention to the fact that infanticide is practised in the Netherlands.”

    They are just dipping the toe in the charnel house of Western culture. They will retreat – for the moment – then be back in a year when we’ve been subjected to 12 months of propaganda and have another go.

  172. Steve trickler

    That was wild!

    The two in the car had already shot and killed someone at a previous incident. They start shooting at the cops when the pursuit begins. Was never going to end well for them.

    Brave work from the policeman behind the wheel.👍



  173. stackja

    Does Japan have Greens/Get up influencing policy?

  174. stackja

    NSW government supposedly care about unborn.

  175. Delta A

    It was the very last word in Cut & Paste, but at least someone has said it publicly. From The Weekend $Oz:

    Who benefits from government support for renewables? Angela Macdonald-Smith, The Australian Financial Review, March 1, 2016:

    The Turnbull government’s support for … getting about 23.5 per cent of Australia’s electricity from renewable sources by 2020 has sparked a rise in the prices of renewable energy certificates … (The managing director of Infigen Energy, which runs wind farms) Miles George says that … thanks to the changed government rhetoric … shares … have … more than (doubled) … Investors include … Alex Turnbull.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    If you want to know why the country is broke:

    A 20 person queue outside a bulk billing clinic in one of the wealthiest suburbs in Australia.

  177. Tekweni

    Succumbed to my wife’s complaints about having the TV on and accusations of selective hearing to have my hearing tested. Result is a pair of hearing aids and a desire to dig out the .22 and knock off a bunch of noisy crows making a racket at the bottom of the garden. Never noticed their calls before. Finding it quite distracting as I read this blog.

  178. Roger

    Roger – BS policy on SMH schools story changes daily.

    Shorten has consistently stated that schools should not be permitted to discriminate against homosexual students on the grounds of religious belief.

    In the course of a couple of days Morrison has flip flopped and adopted Shorten’s position, promising to legislate it.

    It will then be open to any gay activist student to openly defy the ethos of a religious school and the school will be powerless to expel that student.

    The lily-livered Morrison has proven himself to be to the left of Tanya Plibersek on this issue.

    Thankfully, his premiership will be short.

  179. Nick

    It will then be open to any gay activist student to openly defy the ethos of a religious school and the school will be powerless to expel that student.

    This is where things become complicated. I was asked to look at an institutions’ rights and obligations’ recently. The place was naive in that was letting itself open to mischief makers who wanted to use the letter of the ‘law’ as stated in the rights for more political purposes. There is a friendly naivety in place that operates.

    With regards to schools, never forget that they deal with kids and are run by people for whom a child’s wellbeing and development are paramount. A school could entertain the idea of asking a gay activist student to leave though would be very reluctant to do so in case it frightened the other kids.

  180. Thankfully, his premiership will be short.

    Yeah.
    Our political class will play musical chairs again, and somebody else will get to wear the big hat.
    For a while.
    Apart from that minor detail, it will continue to be “business as usual”.

  181. stackja

    IT – Medibank. Gough legacy. ALP/unions like this situation.

  182. None

    Infidel Tiger

    #2837967, posted on October 13, 2018 at 11:58 am

    If you want to know why the country is broke:

    A 20 person queue outside a bulk billing clinic in one of the wealthiest suburbs in Australia.

    That’s what some third worlders would call a clever country.

  183. Senile Old Guy

    The lily-livered Morrison has proven himself to be to the left of Tanya Plibersek on this issue.

    Exactly. The LNP has no convictions and no backbone. Turnbull and the many other leftists in the LNP has destroyed the party.

  184. Roger

    Apart from that minor detail, it will continue to be “business as usual”.

    Business as usual at a faster pace under Labor.

    But I don’t want to see Morrison’s moral cowardice on this matter, Paris and immigration, rewarded; I want him to take Maladroit’s advice – as he seems wont to do on every other matter – and leave the parliament in ignominy, having led the Liberals to a historic loss.

  185. Roger

    moral cowardice rewarded that should be.

  186. Armadillo

    Turnbull and the many other leftists in the LNP has destroyed the party.

    The Labor Party has been infiltrating the LNP and Nationals for years. Richard Torbay was only the tip of the iceberg.

  187. Confused Old Misfit

    A school could entertain the idea of asking a gay activist student to leave though would be very reluctant to do so in case it frightened the other kids.

    Do you think the Imams running a Madrasas would be worried about that?

  188. Geriatric Mayfly

    Phenomenal police vid.

    The offending vehicle came to a very dignified stop, I thought.

  189. Exactly. The LNP has no convictions and no backbone.

    Nonetheless,80% + of Cats will still vote for them in the next federal election.
    .

    Turnbull and the many other leftists in the LNP has destroyed the party.

    Nonetheless,80% + of Cats will still vote for them in the next federal election.

  190. Confused Old Misfit

    Re the police video: Those officers were NOT from Broward County!

  191. Roger

    The LNP has no convictions and no backbone. Turnbull and the many other leftists in the LNP has destroyed the party.

    Morrison’s change apparently came after discussions with Dave Sharma, whom Nick Greiner has promised will be one of the most gifted individuals in the parliament.

    The Liberals must be destroyed.

  192. OldOzzie

    Ohio Congressman Steve Chabot says he never thought he’d say “God Bless Kanye West.” He also joked: “How many liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None, they’d rather stay in the dark!” pic.twitter.com/Bm4gritr5g

  193. Nick

    Do you think the Imams running a Madrasas would be worried about that?

    COM, unfortunately when the shit hits the fan they won’t be the ones to feature heavily in the media. Heck, the Catholic Church have been forced into denials and they hadn’t uttered a word!

    This isn’t directed at you COM or anyone in particular at all, though Cats need to think of why, despite having the right to crack down on gays in schools etc they don’t. A peaceful coexistence occurs for a variety of reasonable reasons. Talking the good fight here about dogma and etc has unfortunately little basis in reality. The Church knows this.

  194. None

    Nonetheless,80% + of Cats will still vote for them in the next federal election.

    Not this cat. Interestingly a long time acquaintance, a businessman who was rusted on Liberals, and I mean rusted on said to me the other day that he had totally and utterly given up on politics and isn’t voting LNP again; instead he will be voting informal which is a really stupid option I think. He gritted his teeth even through the Turnbull sojourn but the yellow back Morrison finally did him in.

  195. Bruce of Newcastle

    The source of the story about the “missing” “journalist” from Saudi Arabia is a guy who was underneath the guy who tried to assassinate the current ruler of Saudi Arabia.

    Khashoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood activist. Daniel Greenfield has several posts about him today:

    + Media Forgets to Mention Jamal Khashoggi was in the Muslim Brotherhood
    + Jamal Khashoggi Blamed 9/11 on US Support for Israel
    + Jamal Khashoggi was Bin Laden Pal, Mourned His Death, Vouched for Terror Funder
    + Jamal Khashoggi on Bin Laden “We Were Hoping to Establish an Islamic State Anywhere”
    + While Jewish Lefties Advocate for Khashoggi, He Urged Saudi King to Fight Israel

    Case of baddies on baddies (copyright Tony Abbott).

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    The source of the story about the “missing” “journalist” from Saudi Arabia is a guy who was underneath the guy who tried to assassinate the current ruler of Saudi Arabia.

    Khashoggi was a Muslim Brotherhood activist. Daniel Greenfield has several posts about him today:

    + Media Forgets to Mention Jamal Khashoggi was in the Muslim Brotherhood
    + Jamal Khashoggi Blamed 9/11 on US Support for Israel
    + Jamal Khashoggi was Bin Laden Pal, Mourned His Death, Vouched for Terror Funder
    + Jamal Khashoggi on Bin Laden “We Were Hoping to Establish an Islamic State Anywhere”
    + While J_wish Lefties Advocate for Khashoggi, He Urged Saudi King to Fight Israel

    Case of baddies on baddies (copyright Tony Abbott).

  197. None

    Morrison’s change apparently came after discussions with Dave Sharma, whom Nick Greiner has promised will be one of the most gifted individuals in the parliament.

    Dave Sharma who so gifted that in the only interview I saw just um denard and didn’t know what to say half the time. Dave Sharma who so gifted he’s sucked off the public tea his entire life and never struck out on his own. Oh wait Dave Sharma who returned to Australia to set up some sort of business which no one wants to name but I’m pretty sure he’s either a political lobby consultancy or some party position. The Liberals think that we’re stupid. I won’t vote for a party which thinks of me like that.

  198. It will then be open to any gay activist student to openly defy the ethos of a religious school and the school will be powerless to expel that student.

    FFS, ensure the legislation allows schools to set codes of behaviour. Problem solved. Be as gay as you want, but no political activism involving the school, protected by legislation.

    The Liberals really are weapons grade stupid.

  199. Roger

    A school could entertain the idea of asking a gay activist student to leave though would be very reluctant to do so in case it frightened the other kids.

    Any Christian school principal that did not expel the gay activist student would be failing the parents who’ve enrolled their children and pay fees for the purpose of receiving an education informed by the Christian ethos. And it’s not as though the right of the gay child to an education is being denied – a furphy put about by Bill Shorten for political expedience – he or she can simply go elsewhere. Nobody has a right to be enrolled in a particular school; even state schools deny enrolment to children from outside their catchment areas.

  200. Nick

    Roger, I mean this nicely. Can you think of say, the last Catholic girls school that expelled a student for being an active lesbian who wasn’t say, grooming a younger student ? It wouldn’t happen for the reasons that you’d have to then expel a few more students, teachers and senior management.

  201. None
    #2837991, posted on October 13, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Not this cat.

    So, who are you going to vote for, None?
    There are sixteen candidates. Regardless of what you do with the other fourteen, whichever candidate you put first out of Sharma and Phelps will ultimately get your vote. That will be the outcome even if you place Sharma and Phelps at fifteen and sixteen.

    Unless NSW has adopted voluntary preferential voting in federal elections, that is.

  202. Dr Faustus

    Their ABC weighs into the Wentworth by-election by detecting a Covert Alt-Right Conspiracy to infiltrate NSW mainstream politics:

    Manifesto reveals alt-right’s plans to go mainstream after ‘infiltration’ of NSW Young Nationals

    The ABC has uncovered a covert plot by Australia’s alt-right movement to join major political parties and influence their policy agendas from within.

    Background Briefing has witnessed members of the NSW Young Nationals in Sydney attending a secret men’s-only fight club set up by some of the country’s most prominent alt-right nationalists.

    The lengthy report lets worried readers know that the NSW political Right is infected by the ‘New Guard’: a collection of urban, far Right, anti-semitic, racist, brawling, Rude Boys. None of whom would be welcome in the salons of Wentworth. Probably just like Tony Abbott.

    At the end of the long article, it turns out that the Alt-Right Movement is a dickhead named Nick Jennings, who was elected to the NSW Young Nationals executive – and promptly sacked when his neo-Nazi enthusiasms were discovered.

  203. Bruce of Newcastle

    The ABC has uncovered a covert plot by Australia’s alt-right movement to join major political parties and influence their policy agendas from within.

    Oh no, it’s a VRWC!

  204. Roger

    It wouldn’t happen for the reasons that you’d have to then expel a few more students, teachers and senior management.

    And so the rot sets in.

    Does the bishop know? The buck stops with him.

  205. I am bespoke

    Top Ender

    I assembled a lower mid range 3d printer and use it for things like a Pan Tilt Tracker but mainly for more mundane things like this.

    You get what you pay for, the cheaper ones stuff like self leveling beds can be more hassle then its worth.
    Cheap filament can vary in size creating blockages. Iv had good success with this suppler

    Have some other projects lined up while printing it takes time.

    .

  206. H B Bear

    SloMo has just had his “Where the bloody hell are you?” moment.

    He is the Lara Bingle of the Lieboral Party.

  207. daggers

    At the anti-abortion rally in Treasury gardens.
    There are fourteen police public order response vehicles lined up on the street adjoining the park. Plus various others distributed around the vicinity. For a crowd of mainly suburban mums and dad’s with infant children.

  208. stackja

    SMH schools story fits leftists agenda, abolish non-state schools.

  209. Confused Old Misfit

    The point with respect to religion based education and homosexuality is its constitutionality with respect to Section 116 of the Constitution: Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion
    The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any
    religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for
    prohibiting the free exercise of any religion
    , and no religious test
    shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust
    under the Commonwealth.
    The free exercise of a religion may or may not involve a view on homosexuality. It has been my impression of the Roman Catholic faith that it has more often than not sought to guide practitioners from what it considered to be a sinful state to a state of grace.
    That it has been largely unsuccessful, due to human frailties, is evident. The same may be said of most of the Protestant sects.
    The Commonwealth of Australia through its government may support homosexuality but it has no right to legislate acceptance of homosexuality in religious schools where that practice is explicitly prohibited by the religion.

  210. OldOzzie

    memoryvault
    #2837986, posted on October 13, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    Exactly. The LNP has no convictions and no backbone.

    Nonetheless,80% + of Cats will still vote for them in the next federal election.
    .

    Turnbull and the many other leftists in the LNP has destroyed the party.

    Nonetheless,80% + of Cats will still vote for them in the next federal election.

    Nope – Other than Tony Abbott my local HOR member who now gets 1st Preference after Photios Liberals attack on him – Liberals and National Party will be last after All Conservative Groups and Wierdos in the NSW Senate Race but behind Labor/Greens to last place of the 3.

    Kids in Australia need to learn what Real Misery is – Shorten Labor will give it to them – Wealth Taxes/ Death Taxes and their Inheritances will disappear, as will Australia, as it heads down the Venezuela Hole

  211. Nick

    Does the bishop know? The buck stops with him.

    The Bishop? The one with the young Italian manservant who it is rumored dresses in drag on weekends? I don’t think he’d be saying much.

  212. calli

    Just got back from Alcatraz and Sausalito (sublime to the ridiculous).

    But don’t worry about my debbildebbil carbon footprint.

    The diesel ferry had solar panels.

  213. Roger

    SMH schools story fits leftists agenda, abolish non-state schools.

    That is indeed the goal, but not by fiat, which would be too revolutionary even for Australia’s apathetic electorate, but by incrementally conforming them to Prog-Left agenda.

  214. stackja

    COM – Will High Court support homosexuals over religion?

  215. Confused Old Misfit

    Aus Constitution

    115. States not to coin money

    A State shall not coin money, nor make anything but gold and silver coin a legal tender in payment of debts.

    How does this work with being off the gold standard an fractional reserve banking? Or was it changed?

  216. Confused Old Misfit

    Will High Court support homosexuals over religion?

    I’d be curious to read their opinions if they did.

  217. Nick

    come off it, Nick.

    Daggers, I wish I were joking. It would be easy for me to be very specific indeed about a number of things, though I won’t as I have no desire to hurt people that are otherwise innocent and have the right intentions. My wider point stands though, most people would have no idea about what happens in reality versus their vision of what happened 30 or more years ago.

  218. stackja

    OO – My electorate used to be Bennelong then changed to North Sydney.

  219. Liberals and National Party will be last after All Conservative Groups and Wierdos in the NSW Senate Race but behind Labor/Greens to last place of the 3.

    Do that in a HoR vote, and you’re voting Liberal.
    That’s not a slur on you, OldOzzie, or None last post.
    The system is now fine-tuned to ensure that outcome.

    Your only viable alternative now is to follow Dot’s advice, and put sitting members last.
    And in the upcoming Wentworth by-election even that strategy is meaningless.

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