Monday Forum: October 15, 2018

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  1. Armadillo

    Do you seriously think an American would have beetroot in their burgers?

    They put pickles on them. Totally deranged. I wouldn’t put anything past the Americans.

  2. I am bespoke

    None
    #2839771, posted on October 15, 2018 at 6:26 pm
    Instead of addressing my arguments Bespoke, you made false assumptions and pretended to know what was going on in my head. You chose to abuse and insult me by inferring that I take pleasure in the death of women and children. Who the f*** do you think you are? Do you treat your wife and daughter like that ? Not even caring too inform yourself of their opinion but just accusing them of the vilest of things? God protect your children from ever following your example.

    How this started is your accusations about men and pubes followed by some rambling about peeing on the floor then ending up some garbage about me and my family . So playing the victim doesn’t cut it and stop calling for help.

    Sad though we have much to agree on this.

  3. hzhousewife

    Wearing shoes (particularly leather brogue style) sans socks is weird.

    It’s just another stupid affectation that idiots choose to do to say “Look at moi! I’m different! I don’t wear socks!”
    Well, bloody whoopee, dickhead.

    No.

    All it proves is that you are a sheeple.

  4. Boambee John

    Armadillo
    #2839824, posted on October 15, 2018 at 6:56 pm
    About 100000 Australian children are killed by abortion each year.

    Stopping it would solve the aging population and immigration questions immediately. If you don’t want the kid, hand it over to someone who does.

    Uh oh. I’m prelonging the agony here.

    I would be quite happy to see the mother paid an allowance for the duration of the pregnancy.

  5. None

    I knew Chelsea married some mega rich dude but I didn’t realise it was a Soros spawn. And god how stupid would you be betting on the Greek government unless you were aware of insider corruption. The Greeks just jailed one of their former leftists Ministers of many years for enriching himself by selling out major Greek property and Investments excetera excetera to the Germans. The Clintons truly are vile people.

  6. Delta A

    I so like this, great T-shirt possibilities. Probably go right over the head of most people.

    As T-shirts tend to do…

    Groan! Sorry, hzhousewife.

  7. hzhousewife

    Did someone here comment last week that it costs a putative adoptive couple about AUS$11,000 to go through the application process, which may take up to ten years? Horrendous prospect, and of course not available to 30+ year olds.

  8. Pete of Perth

    All my leftie mates would give their left testicle to spend a night in the sack with Hillary. Maybe not but you know it makes sense.

  9. DrBeauGan

    A child is not an adult either, but as with a zygote, the line of potential development is present in both cases. My thought was that this argues against abortion for a “potential” baby just as much as the argument against infanticide is prohibited for potential adults.

    I agree. The practical problem is that the “pro-choice” mob are only too happy to have a discrete cut-off point after which it’s human and before which it isn’t. DB thinks that you can get around this by making it conception, which doesn’t work on average Jo, because she does a kind of check-list:
    Number of arms, number of legs, number of fingers and toes, number of heads, pointiness of nose, length of tail, furriness, and so on. This will exclude hamsters and mosquitoes and pass babies. It also excludes four cells. So average Jo is easily sold on the idea that abortion before six weeks is fine.

    Explaining why it isn’t can go into theological arguments like those of DB which don’t convince me and certainly won’t convince average Jo. Or you can show her the process, of which four cells is a very early stage, and which has her child in her arms giving a smile as a much later one.

    I prefer the second attack on the abortionists. Partly because it has a much better chance of working on average Jo, and partly because theological arguments are bad. DB will never see the last, he’s immured in a quasi-legalist mind set and can’t escape it. He has faith in logic.

  10. I would be quite happy to see the mother paid an allowance for the duration of the pregnancy.

    If they are single and unemployed, we already do.
    Have done for nearly fifty years.

  11. max

    You don’t hear anything about the status of the zygote or the foetus from modern feminists.

    It’s all ‘My body, my rights.’ They’re on a different page.

    At least that’s what the feral mullets were screeching last Saturday on Spring Street.

  12. stackja

    Sussex baby due northern Spring.

  13. Armadillo

    Planet Pizza. Here are some interesting pizza facts in relation to favourite toppings.

    South Korea – Potatoes (even the base). Sweet potatoe mousse and sour cream (instead of tomato sauce).

    Iceland – Cream cheese or blue cheese instead of Mozzarella.

    Brazil – popular toppings are sliced tomatoes, peas and Bannanas.

    Finland – marinated or smoked reindeer.

    South Africa – blisteringly spicy sauce with Bannanas and mixed pork.

    India – baby corn, pickled ginger and tofu.

    Norway is the biggest consumer of pizza per capita (24 million sold a year for a population of 5 million). And they are frozen Pizzas. “Grandiosa” is the most popular brand, and the company commercial jingle has topped the Norweigian pop charts…..twice.

  14. Crossie

    What is Michael Kroger smoking declaring on Andrew Bolt’s program that it’s possible Turnbull will come out and make a statement in support of Sharma in Wentworth?

  15. mh

    From old thread:

    Eyrie
    #2839437, posted on October 15, 2018 at 10:21 am
    mh, it was rocket *production* after development that used slave labour. The knowledge of how to build and fly a large liquid fuelled rocket was in existence before the production line was setup.

    Fair point, I was thinking that there were many changes to the V2’s while they were in production because of Hitler rushing the program, so in a way the slave labor contributed to the development of the rocket program. But it may be that most of the issues were resolved before production.

  16. JC

    There’s another good reason too, Doc. It’s a view held by pro life Libertarians that has no theogolical dimension to it.

    These libertarians argue that human life is paramount and should always be protected because high level intelligence is very scarce.

    The unborn are human beings. Unborn human beings are persons. Unborn persons are innocent of aggressive behavior. Therefore, except in a “life-boat” situation, they must be accorded the protection of the nonaggression principle. And, therefore, under normal (nonemergency) circumstances, abortion is a violation of the cardinal principle of libertarianism.

    Here’s a decent debate between libertarians on the subject of abortion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=ictboGYAnT0

    The only solid argument for pro-life comes from the libertarian movement (like most things). It doesn’t get tangled up in a discussion about cell count.
    Human life is valuable and scarce and it should always be protected.

  17. Crossie

    Finland – marinated or smoked reindeer.

    I’d like to put in my order for a dozen of these pizzas.

  18. Did someone here comment last week that it costs a putative adoptive couple about AUS$11,000 to go through the application process, which may take up to ten years?

    And the rest, Housewife. In both money and time.
    And if the couple haven’t been approved and actually adopted before the male turns 34, it’s too late.
    He’s considered too old.

    Of course, that’s how it is for us serfs.
    For people with enough money and/or “connections”, different rules apply.

  19. Nick

    As T-shirts tend to do…

    🙂

  20. egg_

    accusations about men and pubes followed by some rambling about peeing on the floor

    German pr0n?
    Probably need to add rubberware and gimp outfits?
    Correct, Grigs?

  21. None

    So Bespoke you’re a married man who now confesses to looking at pictures of women in bikinis with Brazilians?
    Or you got offended because I suggested to men here that perhaps they be a little bit more discerning about what women they look at? Recalling that I mentioned a couple looked a bit under age.
    Or did you get queasy because somebody mentioned pubic hair?
    And then you got upset because a male asked about a female fad and I gave an answer – linking to an item written by a male in a respectable conservative paper no less?
    Oh and then you cry about mentions of 2 year olds pissing on toilet floors because I suppose you’ve never toilet trained boys? Or never clean a toilet? (And men never miss of course).
    And then you got really really upset because I advocated against abortion?
    Which would mean you’re prepared to abort your own child. And tell your kids that you arrange to kill their sibling.
    Which necessitated you insulting me and accusing *me* of sleeping easy over dead women and children. As if I’d be happy to see you abort your child.
    And then you want to tell me that you’re all about protecting women and children.

    Mmmmkay.

    Keep f****** that chicken Bespoke. You’re doing just fine convincing me you’re an A grade f***wit.

  22. Crossie

    The only solid argument for pro-life comes from the libertarian movement (like most things). It doesn’t get tangled up in a discussion about cell count.
    Human life is valuable and scarce and it should always be protected.

    Just think how stupid it sounds to advocate murdering your own potential human beings and then importing other human beings to replace them because you want to expand the country.

  23. thefrollickingmole

    vile people say vile things…

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/15/kanye-west-uncle-tom-slavery-donald-trump

    Apparently Ayaan is “privileged” because of reasons….

    In the United States, the renowned anti-Islam campaigner, Somali-born Ayaan Hirsi Ali, has long been celebrated by the hard right (she has worked for the neocon American Enterprise Institute). In her autobiography, Infidel, a picture is painted of a Somali and Muslim world so oppressive to women that the only rational response is to reject it and flee from it. Yet she conveniently sidestepped her former feminist convictions to support Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the US supreme court. At a time when sexual equality is under siege, all voices should be heard and all experiences added to our understanding of the societies we live in; yet I cannot help but feel that a lucky few are insensible to the pain of the many.

    The reach of Hirsi Ali’s views, most of them dependent on her privileged position as a former “insider” within the Muslim world, is startling, and can only be understood in the context of how her extreme statements accord with mainstream anxieties and prejudices. It also relates to the marginalisation of the people she speaks about, who have few high-profile voices.

  24. Old School Conservative

    Victor Davis Hansen has several mentions of Australia in a recent article, saying the USA should work with Oz in reducing the power of China.
    I particularly enjoyed this comment:
    China is worried. Trump’s domestic opponents may write him off as a crude buffoon, but Beijing fears that he is a crafty Machiavelli or Sun Tzu, already downsizing Chinese power.
    More support for the 5D chess theme promoted on the Cat.

  25. Sussex baby due northern Spring.

    Is that James Hewitt’s first grandchild?

  26. Crossie

    memoryvault
    #2839879, posted on October 15, 2018 at 7:41 pm
    I would be quite happy to see the mother paid an allowance for the duration of the pregnancy.

    If they are single and unemployed, we already do.
    Have done for nearly fifty years.

    Yes, we have. What’s more, Whitlam made sure that fathers were a scare commodity in those situations,

  27. egg_

    Frist?

    Fisted?
    Oh sorry, that was meant for Grigs.

  28. None

    The cut off for adoption for a male is 34? I think the average age of getting married these days is 34 . And this in this day and age when all the luvvies discard their wives and take up the trophies and start families again at 50 60 and 70 years of age?
    And what is that $100000 for?

  29. egg_

    Finland – marinated or smoked reindeer underwear.

    With pineapple?

  30. None

    The only solid argument for pro-life comes from the libertarian movement (like most things). It doesn’t get tangled up in a discussion about cell count.
    Human life is valuable and scarce and it should always be protected.

    Delusional. Your own libertarian party advocates for euthanasia and even tried to introduce a bill to enable it. That’s about as pro life as Goebbels. It also has no intention to protect unborn children from abortion. any person who thinks libertarians are pro life hasn’t even read half the comments from self confessed libertarians on this blog.

  31. egg_

    Mainland Tasmania having blackouts

    LMFAO!

  32. Old School Conservative

    her privileged position as a former “insider” within the Muslim world

    Wow. Assaulted, degraded, and subjugated – those things make Hirsi an “insider”? This could only have been written by a Muslim activist.
    Oh wait….”Nadifa Mohamed is a British-Somali novelist”

  33. faceache

    I don’t know if you tell the difference between a human foetus and another animal foetus. say at one week for a human one a cat one or a dog one or whatever. Can you tell that the human foetus is a human one and not something else? Just asking.

  34. egg_

    she’s bonking an American colleague who looks like Barrack Obama but whose ol’ Afro-American Pappy – they Skype – looks like Steppin Fetchit;

    Pappy: “Wanna share some of that white ass, son?”

  35. Roger

    Mainland Tasmania having blackouts

    Fair go…they had 80 kmh winds to contend with!

  36. stackja

    FG – JH? I am skeptical.

  37. DrBeauGan

    We live on an unremarkable planet circling an unremarkable star in a pretty average galaxy, JC, and as far as we know, we’re alone. We’re not very smart, and we’re not very good, but in this universe, you do the best you can with what you’ve got.

    Killing off human babies is an evil waste. Only the terminally crass would consider defending it.

    It’s a big universe; I shall reconsider my position when we’ve filled up a few galaxies with human beings.

  38. Boambee John

    Anyone know if Mike of Marion is still about?

    No sign of dweezy or Rudiau either.

    Perhaps time, though I hope not, for the Foreign Legion toast: “Those under the sand”!

  39. Tiny Dancer

    None. Stay off the meth.

  40. None

    The only solid argument for pro-life comes from the libertarian movement (like most things). It doesn’t get tangled up in a discussion about cell count.
    Human life is valuable and scarce and it should always be protected.

    Delusional. Your own libertarian party advocates for euthanasia and even tried to introduce a bill to enable it. That’s about as pro life as G –bbels. It also has no intention to protect unborn children from abortion. any person who thinks libertarians are pro life hasn’t even read half the comments from self confessed libertarians on this blog.

  41. I am bespoke

    None
    #2839890, posted on October 15, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    No, just pointing out your own hypocrisy that eclipses all other put together. And keep making up make ignorant claims about me it only proves my point.

  42. egg_

    the Director’s trophy wife, getting antsy and neurotic, stuck in the Alice. Will she root the sinister Chinese mining company man, or the cute young doctor who was last night confronted by a nasty case of domestic violence (white, of course), or both of them?

    The cute young Doctor, ‘course – she was looking at a swollen foot.

  43. Gab

    No sign of dweezy or Rudiau either.

    Nor Fergus, and I haven’t seen Mater lately.

  44. cohenite

    Just think how stupid it sounds to advocate murdering your own potential human beings and then importing other human beings to replace them because you want to expand the country.

    Especially replacing them with muslims who regard humans as fodder for the cause. Rather as leftie elites do about the ground-troups and designated victims which include ironically muslims. If one could move to the moon and watch as the left’s victims eventually come to destroy them it would make depressing watching.

  45. None

    Yes faceache here is a picture of Dr Beaugn as a foetus
    https://youtu.be/-6T5k2QcAaE

  46. DrBeauGan

    faceache
    #2839903, posted on October 15, 2018 at 8:10 pm
    I don’t know if you tell the difference between a human foetus and another animal foetus. say at one week for a human one a cat one or a dog one or whatever. Can you tell that the human foetus is a human one and not something else? Just asking.

    In principle, yes, faceache, you just have to extract a dna sample. This is the blueprint for construction of the finished baby, loosely speaking. So you can tell quite a lot about what it will look like nine months down the track.

  47. hzhousewife

    The cut off for adoption for a male is 34? I think the average age of getting married these days is 34 . And this in this day and age when all the luvvies discard their wives and take up the trophies and start families again at 50 60 and 70 years of age?
    And what is that $100000 for?

    $11,000 not a hundred thou. To adopt you have to be immaculately credentialled, perfectly healthy, wealthy and politically wise, passing inspection in every detail of housekeeping, career earning, education, criminality free of course- probably speeding ticket free indeed!
    Then after all that, you have to find a baby to adopt ! The thicket of social workers and regulations to be navigated is impenetrable.

  48. Boambee John

    memoryvault
    #2839879, posted on October 15, 2018 at 7:41 pm
    I would be quite happy to see the mother paid an allowance for the duration of the pregnancy.

    If they are single and unemployed, we already do.
    Have done for nearly fifty years.

    But we don’t make them give the child up for adoption.

    I would make this a condition.

    Delta mentioned a figure of $11,000 for the cost of an adoption. It is probably more for an overseas adoption. That sets a benchmark.

  49. Empire 5:5

    The WaPo narrative pointing the bone for their dead stringer:

    ISTANBUL — As Jamal Khashoggi prepared to enter the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2, a squad of men from Saudi Arabia who investigators suspect played a role in his disappearance was ready and in place.

    What WaPo doesn’t want you talking about:

    Like his old friend, Jamal Khashoggi went into exile in a friendly Islamist country. Osama bin Laden found refuge in Pakistan and Khashoggi ended up in Turkey. The Khashoggi family had originated from Turkey. And Turkey was swiftly becoming the leading Sunni Islamist power in the region. Living in Turkey put Khashoggi at the intersection of the Turkish-Qatari backers of the Brotherhood and the Western media.

    Fakestream.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/saudis-lay-in-wait-for-jamal-khashoggi-and-left-turkey-quickly-sources-say/2018/10/09/0e283e2e-cbc5-11e8-ad0a-0e01efba3cc1_story.html?utm_term=.7e0ccadada07

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/271623/jamal-khashoggi-media-fights-muslim-brotherhood-daniel-greenfield

  50. Boambee John

    Sorry, that was hzhousewife, not Delta.

  51. Eyrie

    Dr BG: We live on an unremarkable planet circling an unremarkable star in a pretty average galaxy, JC, and as far as we know, we’re alone. We’re not very smart, and we’re not very good, but in this universe, you do the best you can with what you’ve got.
    Yep, it is “just us”.
    It is our purpose to bring life to the universe. We are Gaia’s reproductive system. What grand adventures await!

  52. The cute young Doctor, ‘course – she was looking at a swollen foot.

    Foot sex?
    There’s an entire website devoted solely to that.

  53. None

    And keep making up make ignorant claims about me it only proves my point.

    oh you didn’t like the fact that I bet back when you made all your ridiculous offensive false accusations about me? Expect me to roll over like a dog did you? So now you’re projecting?
    You’re not very bright are you Bespoke?
    You’re too stupid even to know when you’re making stuff up.
    God save your children from your stupidity.
    Now sod off.

  54. stackja

    Social workers more hindrance?

  55. DrBeauGan

    It is our purpose to bring life to the universe. We are Gaia’s reproductive system. What grand adventures await!

    Sure looks that way. Seeing myself as one of Gaia’s sperm feels kinda funny at first, but I’ve got used to it.

  56. Yep, it is “just us”.

    Or maybe the universe is teaming with diverse life-forms, and they’ve got this place quarantined.
    Like a leper colony in days gone by.

  57. Boambee John

    The reach of Hirsi Ali’s views, most of them dependent on her privileged position as a former “insider” within the Muslim world, is startling,

    The reach of Walid Ali’s views, most of them dependent on his privileged position as a former “insider” within the Muslim world, is startling,

    Reads just as well this way?

  58. cohenite

    Or maybe the universe is teaming with diverse life-forms, and they’ve got this place quarantined.
    Like a leper colony in days gone by.

    Good, let’s stop talking about sperms and start talking about Fermi instead.

  59. Rae

    About 100000 Australian children are killed by abortion each year.

    Less than half that many.

  60. H B Bear

    Vintage Teh Dumb this evening. Prof van Wrongselen is back in the chair bringing all the benefits of his insights with Fauxfacts (RIP) j’ismist Peter Hartcher and Mr Kate McGregor looking absolutely fabulous with his trademark pearls.

  61. Delta A

    Saw on the news tonight a controversial commercial for organ donors depicting guards at Jesus feet during His crucifixion, encouraging Him to become a donor.

    Tried to copy it to show here, but fail. It is on Yahoo, for anyone (everyone) more tech savvy than I am.

    I found it disgusting. Cats might have different views.

  62. I am bespoke

    None
    #2839925, posted on October 15, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    You’ve got less self awareness then Imp and Christine Ford.

    Now sod off.

    No, but I do wish you a long and happy life.

  63. None

    Those stats are 20 years old and estimates Rae. Both SA and WA keep actual stats and the federal parliamentary library attempts estimates based on Medicare data which is a bit dodgy and more difficult now with chemical abortions added in.

  64. Delta A

    It is on Yahoo

    Sorry, only the news report, with snippets of the ad, on Yahoo. I’m sure it’s drifting around somewhere.

  65. JC

    We live on an unremarkable planet circling an unremarkable star in a pretty average galaxy, JC, and as far as we know, we’re alone.

    Which ironically makes it quite remarkable, Doc. The fact that we live in an unspectacular spot is heavenly. We have a stable star, a moon which is at the right spot and the right size and we have a few giant planets offering some protection from big motherfuckers floating around looking to slam into things.

    We’re not very smart, and we’re not very good, but in this universe, you do the best you can with what you’ve got.

    We’re fantastic. Humans kick arse.

    Killing off human babies is an evil waste. Only the terminally crass would consider defending it.

    True

    It’s a big universe; I shall reconsider my position when we’ve filled up a few galaxies with human beings.

    Naaa.. there’s just us.

  66. DrBeauGan

    Good, let’s stop talking about sperms and start talking about Fermi instead.

    The simplest solution to the Fermi paradox, Cohenite, is that they aren’t here because they don’t exist.

    It’s a disappointing conclusion to come to.

    Another solution is that technic civilisations are unstable, and degenerate into chaos before they can do interstellar travel. Our own may be an example.

    Hal Colebatch has written an excellent book called The Fragile Flame on the topic.

  67. None

    Talk to your wife and to your daughter like that Bespoke. Your words are on record here. Your abusive false accusations are on record here. Don’t bother addressing me again.

  68. .

    Delta mentioned a figure of $11,000 for the cost of an adoption. It is probably more for an overseas adoption. That sets a benchmark.

    That is what you can pay the government.

    In Australia. In AUD.

    Us, try 35k to 50k, USD.

  69. Death Giraffe

    I prefer the second attack on the abortionists. Partly because it has a much better chance of working on average Jo,

    ..
    Oh alright.
    Let’s tailor our arguments to the tattooed, belching and farting masses.

  70. Roger

    La Tingle on 7:30:

    “Voters are angry about religious freedom”.

    Yes, let’s have less of it.

    What a country.

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sorry, only the news report

    I saw it too, it was disgusting.

    The measure to use is do they ever do one about Mohammed? If they don’t, for the obvious reason that it would be inflammatory to muslims, then they should not do one with Jesus.

    Aren’t they lucky that we just pray for them, not cut their heads off?

  72. Rae

    Those stats are 20 years old

    Yeah? No. Last 2 lines say: 2016 50,005 and 2017 47,265.

  73. Gab

    I found it disgusting.

    Delta I read a bit about it on the Twitter. I couldn’t bring myself to watch it. My twitter retort has received many likes and retweets.

  74. Armadillo

    Naaa.. there’s just us.

    Why about the lizard people?

    Anne, get in here and talk some sense into JC. He’s being naive.

  75. cohenite

    Pantropy is the term used to adapt humans to non-Earth conditions on other planets. In the novel Man Plus humans were adapted live on Mars: they had solar collecting wings, multi-faced eyes to see in the IF, thick insulating skin, artificially large lungs for sucking the minute amount of air and no external sex organs.

    Sort of like head prefect.

  76. Top Ender

    I flushed Moon’s bag full of pills’: The Who’s Roger Daltrey spills on the band

    By DAVID SANDERSON
    THE TIMES

    Roger Daltrey has revealed the inside story of how being the clean-living man in one of Britain’s most hedonistic rock bands made him the “enemy”.

    The Who singer said that he had constantly fought with his bandmates Keith Moon, Pete Townshend and John Entwistle as they lived the rock’n’roll life.

    His new memoir, released last night at the festival, recounts how he was thrown out of the band in its early days in 1965 after flushing Moon’s “great big bag full of pills” down the toilet.

    The drummer, who eventually died from an overdose of prescription pills, “came slashing at me with the bells of a tambourine”.

    The following day Daltrey was fired from the band, only to be reinstated after a few shows when the remaining members were “booed off stage”.

    In the memoir, Thanks a Lot Mr Kibblewhite, Daltrey writes that he knew he “was the enemy”.

    “Rock’n’roll had become all about taking as many drugs as possible until you died,” he writes. “And I was spoiling that. From their point of view it was an intrusion on how they wanted to live their lives. They wanted to be free and I was spoiling that.”

    When he was asked back to the band Daltrey said the other members begrudged his return. He writes that Moon would “do everything he could think of to rile me” while Entwistle, the bassist, “was worse”. Entwistle, who died in 2002 in a Las Vegas hotel room from a heart condition brought on by taking cocaine, “had a very spiteful streak”.

    He also fought with Townshend, once knocking out the lead guitarist, who had to be taken to hospital.

    Daltrey reveals that he did become addicted to prescription painkillers and sleeping pills, which he began taking after damaging his shoulder.

    It took two weeks of cold turkey to wean himself off them. He said that his only indulgence beyond alcohol was smoking a “bit of pot in the gaps between tours”.

    For others in the business it was not that easy.

    “It’s so intense, the temptation to take something to maintain the balance is huge. You take the downers to bring you out of the clouds after a show. Then you need the uppers to put you right back up there in time for the next one. That’s why there are so many casualties in our business.”

    According to the autobiography’s synopsis, the Mr Kibblewhite of the title was Daltrey’s “draconian headmaster” during the singer’s rebellious teenage years.

    — The Times

  77. None

    Saw on the news tonight a controversial commercial for organ donors depicting guards at Jesus feet during His crucifixion, encouraging Him to become a donor.

    I recently renewed my licence and took myself off the organ donor list. The time is coming when the state will feel entitled to your body and I’m not planning to help it along.
    In any case I have a family member who may need an organ in future and I won’t be sharing with anybody else in the meantime.

  78. .

    None
    #2839898, posted on October 15, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    The cut off for adoption for a male is 34? I think the average age of getting married these days is 34 . And this in this day and age when all the luvvies discard their wives and take up the trophies and start families again at 50 60 and 70 years of age?
    And what is that $100000 for?

    Men can do that; have a family at any age. It’s just great.

    Men initiating divorce? What nonsense. Women initiate 60-70% of divorces in Australia.

  79. I am bespoke

    None
    #2839940, posted on October 15, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    Talk to your wife and to your daughter like that Bespoke. Your words are on record here. Your abusive false accusations are on record here.

    Pity you couldn’t add some cutesy voice to that.

    Don’t bother addressing me again.

    Nope, show self control if you can and scroll.

  80. Rae

    And that’s not estimates (my bolding):

    Abortions, residents, in country only includes reported abortions obtained within the country by residents only.

  81. About 100000 Australian children are killed by abortion each year.
    Less than half that many.

    I don’t know which arse those figures were plucked from Rae, but I researched it more than fifteen years ago for an article I wrote. Way back then processed medicare payments for legal abortions were in excess of 70,000 a year. And not all abortions are claimed for on Medicare.

  82. hzhousewife

    Yes, it’s great to see Baanyard shaping up.
    Seb is a delight! They came for a visit a few weeks ago.

    Delighted to hear this, Peter, splendid work !

  83. DrBeauGan

    Oh alright.
    Let’s tailor our arguments to the tattooed, belching and farting masses.

    Well, if you don’t want to augment their numbers, let them abort their offspring.

    I don’t mind the tattooed, belching and farting masses myself. I’ve worked with some of them and liked their vitality.

  84. Armadillo

    When I depart, I’m having my balls gift wrapped and delivered to the Liberal Party HQ.

  85. Eyrie

    “Another solution is that technic civilisations are unstable, and degenerate into chaos before they can do interstellar travel. Our own may be an example.”
    OH&S eventually makes any progress too difficult.

  86. Death Giraffe

    The Trump tactic is this:
    Find something to do or say that the media whores will seize on as a “gotcha”, but that the average person either thinks is no big deal or, actually pretty cool.
    Because the gap between normal people and lunatics is so great, Trump never runs out of material.
    And so unselfaware are they, they never realise they are doing his work for him!

  87. Eyrie

    You all know Hal Colebatch is a published SF author? See Man-Kzin Wars.

  88. .

    34 as the upper limit for men adopting?

    No. From WA>

    If you are applying to adopt your first child as a couple then the maximum age difference allowed between the child and the youngest of the applicants is 45 years. If you are applying to adopt your first child as a single person then the maximum age difference allowed is 45 years.
    If you have parental responsibility for a child the age limits increase to 50 years between the child and the youngest applicant.
    If you are a single person and have parental responsibility for a child, the age gap between you and the child you wish to adopt cannot be more than 50 years.

    So basically, the man can be Methuselah. Under Australian law, Kristy Hinze and her husband could adopt….for at least the next 20 years or so.

  89. Robber Baron

    Vintage Teh Dumb this evening. Prof van Wrongselen is back in the chair bringing all the benefits of his insights with Fauxfacts (RIP) j’ismist Peter Hartcher and Mr Kate McGregor looking absolutely fabulous with his trademark pearls.

    Freak show populated with utter phuc wits. Humans from the future will watch youtubes of this show and laugh at how these morons were commentators. We truly live in the age of stupid.

  90. Delta A

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch it.

    Gab, it made me very angry, partly because, as BoN said, they wouldn’t dream of denigrating Mohammed in such a cheap manner. But Christians, as always, are an easy target.

  91. .

    You all know Hal Colebatch is a published SF author? See Man-Kzin Wars.

    That’s pretty cool.

    “Another solution is that technic civilisations are unstable, and degenerate into chaos before they can do interstellar travel. Our own may be an example.”
    OH&S eventually makes any progress too difficult.

    Imagine trying to do interstellar travel with the OH&S dim bulbs finger wagging at every step.

    That might be another side of the Fermi paradox we’ve never considered.

  92. cohenite

    Hal Colebatch has written an excellent book called The Fragile Flame on the topic.

    The key to humanity’s survival oddly enough may be the creation of other non-human life. Most expressions however are inimical such as 2001, Prometheus, Terminator etc.

    Civilizational evolution is relevant too as the Kardashev Scale shows but it stops or doesn’t envisage a 4th level which is not expressed through this universe. If alternative universes held attractions this one doesn’t have maybe all the aliens left. Or maybe they followed the path of Forbidden Planet although that seems unlikely since you can’t evolve to a God-like state except from an animal progenitor and presumably they would have been aware of that unlike the poor Krell.

    All I know is that the Luddites of humanity have to be stopped: the left and islam.

  93. Tel

    Saw on the news tonight a controversial commercial for organ donors depicting guards at Jesus feet during His crucifixion, encouraging Him to become a donor.

    If they failed show one of the guards reach in through the side, rummage around, pull out a kidney and say, “Ah ha!” then I’m going to mark them down.

  94. None

    Thank you Bespoke. I’m now 90% certain that the mother of your children – if you didn’t lie about being a dad – has left you and you probably have a bit of a history with women that is less than salubrious. Consider this your opportunity to prove me wrong. Second and final request: Don’t address me ever again. Thank you.

  95. Rae

    Way back then … in excess of 70,000 a year

    Around 75,000 per year “way back then”, as shown in the stats that I linked to.

    More recently, 50,005 in 2016 and 47,265 in 2017.

    Maybe people these days are better at avoiding conception.

  96. None

    But Christians, as always, are an easy target.

    a considerable number of Christian’s would be on the organ donor register. They should quietly organise without any public fanfare and withdraw from the organ donor register on masse. Any Christian who knows not only scripture but early christian history would know that you don’t let heathen dictate to you the tenants of your faith or how you should conduct yourself. Don’t play their game. There’s a lot of power in just numbers alone and Christian’s still constitute the majority of all citizens in Australia.

  97. max

    4 Corners giving a detailed account some issues in Wandsworth Prison.

    How is this fulfilling the ABC’s charter ?

    Or is it to help Prince Harry feel at home ?

  98. Roger

    About 100000 Australian children are killed by abortion each year.
    Less than half that many.

    In 2005 it was 83000 according to Children By Choice, a pro-abortion organisation.

    Difficult to imagine it’s decreased significantly since, given the growth in number of fertile women.

    They also note Australia’s abortion rate is higher than Germany or the Netherlands when adjusted for population.

  99. DrBeauGan

    That might be another side of the Fermi paradox we’ve never considered.

    Speak for yourself! 😁

  100. I am bespoke

    Second and final request: Don’t address me ever again. Thank you.

    No 🙂

  101. Confused Old Misfit

    Saw on the news tonight a controversial commercial for organ donors depicting guards at Jesus feet during His crucifixion, encouraging Him to become a donor.

    I wonder if they considered using Mohammed instead of JC? No, I don’t really wonder at all. The twenty-something millennial mushbrains wouldn’t have the balls to do anything that brave.

  102. Shy Ted

    Would anybody like to help Steve Dow out? Answers might include “because they’re shy te”.

  103. Rae

    In 2005 it was

    Lol. Not sure how to break this to you, but this is 2018, last year was 2017, the year before that was 2016.

  104. Tiny Dancer

    Second and final request: Don’t address me ever again. Thank you.

    Reminds me of that loopy “steve from Brisbane” who was mOron’s comedy sidekick.

  105. None

    Agree Roger it was even higher than that from figures provided by Family Planning Queensland a couple of years later. It was certainly quoted as higher by pro abortionist organisations when they were pushing to legalise chemical abortions. That may have been around that same time because Abbott was the health minister so yeah 2006 would probably be about right. I’d have to check though. That parliamentary papers issued around that time suggested that they weren’t too far off the mark it was running at 80-100 thousand a year with Victoria the all time abortion capital of Australia if I remember correctly. Chemical abortions also make it very difficult now to estimate the true number because a lot of women buy the drugs off the net without getting a script from a doctor. There’s also a big return to so called natural drugs for abortion, and even what is euphemistically called abortion massage – where a practitioner basically pummel’s your stomach to induce a miscarriage. It’s not just the anti vaxxers who are crazy. (Yes Struth I know I know).

  106. DrBeauGan

    The distinction between living and non-living, also intelligent and unintelligent, is going to stop making sense if our nanomachines get working parts down to small protein sizes. Building our descendants is far from impossible.

    It’s unlikely they’ll be anything None would consider human.

    They might feel the same about her.

  107. None

    So Tae how many Australian kids have been killed by abortion in in your lifetime. Show us your maths.

  108. .

    None
    #2839968, posted on October 15, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    Thank you Bespoke. I’m now 90% certain that the mother of your children – if you didn’t lie about being a dad – has left you and you probably have a bit of a history with women that is less than salubrious. Consider this your opportunity to prove me wrong. Second and final request: Don’t address me ever again. Thank you.

    You are a common scold and wanton gospeller, Offdot.

    Be quiet.

  109. Hay Stockard

    Shy Ted,
    I’m actually hanging out to se 1% or whatever it is called.

  110. None

    It’s unlikely they’ll be anything None would consider human.

    They might feel the same about her.

    Beaugan of course doesn’t even consider himself human but he’s really happy to make sure the rest of you how about definitions of humanity. This is why you should stay off the crack, boys and girls.

  111. DrBeauGan

    I’ve worked with the tattooed, belching, farting masses, Death, and also the quackademic class. I got on better with the former. Less wankery.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    Serious question.

    Who’s hotter, Trivago Girl or Toyota Girl?

    I’ve been struggling with this for months. I am truly torn. I don’t freak out very often, but this is driving me over the edge and would appreciate some critical analysis.

    And in line with the current debate – yes, I would impregnate both of them (preferably at the same time). And no, I would rather not for them to have abortions.

  113. I am bespoke

    Your the last one to ask for proof , None.

  114. Gab

    Pakistanis rally to demand death for Christian woman facing execution for blasphemy. Several thousand.

    Her crime? She drank water from a cup that was only to be used by muslims.

    https://www.rt.com/news/441190-blasphemy-death-sentence-rally-pakistan/

  115. None

    Oh I see all the liars are out flocking together. Because nothing says mature male like a mob of middle aged social misfits rounding up to bully a woman. Bless. Don’t wonder why the fertility rate is so low, people.

  116. rickw

    Let’s tailor our arguments to the tattooed, belching and farting masses.

    The fat slapper just murdered your future beer drinking buddy and fellow car nut, she just aborted your son.

  117. Nick

    Her crime? She drank water from a cup that was only to be used by muslims.

    A toilet bowl ?

  118. None

    Can’t help you there, Knuckle.

  119. Empire 5:5

    There’s a lot of power in just numbers alone and Christian’s still constitute the majority of all citizens in Australia.

    Get a grip.

    Australia voted for homo nuptials. They have no power. They surrendered to the rainbow militia.

    Think about that.

  120. Leo G

    I don’t know which arse those figures were plucked from Rae, but I researched it more than fifteen years ago for an article I wrote. Way back then processed medicare payments for legal abortions were in excess of 70,000 a year. And not all abortions are claimed for on Medicare.

    I expect that medication-induced abortions are not included in the data. Mifepristone has been increasingly used in Australia since it was legalised more than a decade ago and prostaglandin analogs like misoprostal were illicitly but readily available earlier.

  121. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pakistanis rally to demand death for Christian woman facing execution for blasphemy. Several thousand.

    And we keep being told “it’s the religion of peace?”

  122. .

    4% of Australians are regular churchgoers.

    How many of them are sincere or just afraid of dying?

  123. I am bespoke

    Knuckle Dragger

    You left out the Ford Girl and I don’t mean the Christine/None kind.

  124. cohenite

    Her crime? She drank water from a cup that was only to be used by muslims.

    A toilet bowl ?

    +1

  125. None

    Gab that poor woman has been held for years and most of the accusations of blasphemy or otherwise against Christian’s in those poor areas of Pakistan are concocted means of confiscating land or property. It fucking galls me that we take in Pakistani Muslim migrants when theey ate not prepared to sort out the own massive human rights abuses in their country. Pakistan is also the c***** p **** capital of the world.

  126. DrBeauGan

    4% of Australians are regular churchgoers.

    It’s a social club for oldies. Don’t expect them to organise a revolution.

  127. urb

    Adoption laws at face value appear to be sensible however I must admit I haven’t read the whole act yet

  128. Rae

    None #2839993, posted on October 15, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    So Tae how many Australian kids have been killed by abortion in in your lifetime. Show us your maths.

    Yeah. No.

    Instead, I could look up those figures I linked to and tell you how many since you started posting as None on the Cat.

    But you can do that yourself.

  129. Geriatric Mayfly

    4 Corners giving a detailed account some issues in Wandsworth Prison.
    How is this fulfilling the ABC’s charter ?

    Did they call it ‘Porridge’ to suck viewers in?

  130. Confused Old Misfit

    Confused Old Misfit

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #2839978, posted on October 15, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Saw on the news tonight a controversial commercial for organ donors depicting guards at Jesus feet during His crucifixion, encouraging Him to become a donor.

    I wonder if they considered using the putative inventor of a certain latecoming middle east religion instead of JC? No, I don’t really wonder at all. The twenty-something millennial mushbrains wouldn’t have the balls to do anything that brave.
    Edited version. We’ll see if it escapes the moderator.

  131. Who’s hotter, Trivago Girl or Toyota Girl?

    Not heard of them before, Knuckles, but after some intense research I’d have to say Toyota Girl, but only by a smidgen.

  132. Confused Old Misfit

    The moderator is malevolent tonight!

  133. I agree. The practical problem is that the “pro-choice” mob are only too happy to have a discrete cut-off point after which it’s human and before which it isn’t. DB thinks that you can get around this by making it conception, which doesn’t work on average Jo, because she does a kind of check-list:
    Number of arms, 3 of legs, number of fingers and toes, number of heads, pointiness of nose, length of tail, furriness, and so on. This will exclude hamsters and mosquitoes and pass babies. It also excludes four cells. So average Jo is easily sold on the idea that abortion before six weeks is fine.

    This is a nonsense argument that even the average Jo would reject when they are shown that losing an arm or leg, etc. in this schema would mean they cease to human beings and thereby the protection of the law.

    Explaining why it isn’t can go into theological arguments like those of DB which don’t convince me and certainly won’t convince average Jo

    I haven’t presented any theological arguments. It’s simply a scientific fact that a zygote is a human being in its earliest stage of development.

    Or you can show her the process, of which four cells is a very early stage, and which has her child in her arms giving a smile as a much later one.

    Is a very early stage of what? Why are you equivocating?

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mob rule in Pakistan has alarming similarities to the pussy-hat wailers and their pro-violence backers from such as Antifa, all out in similar mobs. With encouragement from Shillery and far too many other so-called ‘Democrats’.

    Worrying.

  135. Shy Ted

    When I die I’ve decided to leave all my money to plastic surgery. I’m sure that decision will raise a few eyebrows!

  136. Dave in Marybrook

    Apparently there’s a newby with Trivago girl writhing around on a bed with a puppy.
    Toyota girl = forgettable.

  137. Evening Lizzie.
    You and Hairy still overseas on holidays?
    I’m beginning to think of you two as a couple of expats.

  138. You left out the Ford Girl and I don’t mean the Christine/None kind.

    After a further burst of in depth research, I’m still sticking with Toyota Girl.
    But only by a gnat’s whisker.

  139. Geriatric Mayfly

    An unbroken arc of convectional mayhem from Tennant Creek to offshore Mt Gambier. Has been moving east at a glacial pace all day, which is unusual.

  140. Boambee John

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2840005, posted on October 15, 2018 at 9:29 pm
    Serious question.

    Who’s hotter, Trivago Girl or Toyota Girl?

    Don’t know, but Ford Girl is cuter.

  141. jupes

    Pakistanis rally to demand death for Christian woman facing execution for blasphemy. Several thousand.

    Hey we should allow more Paki Muslims to immigrate here.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  142. None

    Australia voted for homo nuptials. They have no power. They surrendered to the rainbow militia.

    This common piece of rewriting history needs to be corrected every time it is encountered. We had a postal survey not a vote – a voluntary postal survey asking one simple question: should we legalise gay marriage. At that time there was no legislation and no indication of how that should work out. 52% of eligible voting Australians at that the point in time did not actively say yes. And even of those who voted yes many have since changed their mind and would now vote no, and another proportion voted yes simply to get the issue off the table not because they accepted or thought that gay marriage was valid worthy or good. I should also add that lots of non religious people also voted against gay marriage. Marriage is a social institution not a religious institution and has never been an exclusive religious domain. To think that shows either your ignorance all your bigotry. Since then we’ve added hundreds of thousands of new residence to Australia and we will continue to do so and the majority of those come from cultures which are diabolically against gay marriage. So things are not as simplistic as you would like.

    When Australia passed gay marriage legislation they effectively wiped out state support for marriage. It no longer exists. It has been replaced with what is nothing more than a public servant approved love contract. It will mean -as it has meant in every other country where gay marriage has been introduced’ that over the longer term even fewer people will get married because who wants a public servant approved love contract?
    Now once you passed a law to do a way with state support of traditional marriage and replace it with state defined public servant approved love contract you could also pass a law to repeal it. Two countries have already overturned their gay marriage laws and I will guarantee you this. Over the longer term people will tire of the chaos of immorality and they will repeal all these stupid laws again. Don’t believe me? Learn some history.

  143. Empire 5:5

    Empire 5:5
    #2840014, posted on October 15, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    There’s a lot of power in just numbers alone and Christian’s still constitute the majority of all citizens in Australia.

    Get a grip.

    Australia voted for homo nuptials. They have no power. They surrendered to the rainbow militia.

    Think about that.

    Of the two factions of the post WWII Australian uniparty system, the faction that has claimed to be the natural home of conservatives, is now owned and operated by windmill salesmen and homosexualists, an unlikely tag team spawned from the dregs of identity politics and fully committed to cooperating for a carbon neutral mardi gras.

  144. Rae

    What Would Jesus Do? – Donate Your Organs

    It’s a good ad. Clever. Hopefully it prompts many people to donate their organs. Not enough do at present.

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Bespoke,

    Ford Girl? Wait, what? I’ve clearly missed something!

    132, you have a point. Immaculately dressed, stunning, GSOH (according to the scripts) and an absolute cracker.

    None,

    Because you’re a woman doesn’t make you immune to anything, ‘bullying’ (actually disagreeing with you) included. Everyone, everywhere has been bullied at some point in their lives. Using the ‘bully a woman’ card here doesn’t cut it, and Struth delivered one of the best smack downs in history on the subject earlier.

    Anyway we’re all equal now anyway, aren’t we? Unless, of course, you happen to be special…….

  146. Nob

    JC
    #2839729, posted on October 15, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    Whatever happened with graphene?

    Good vid.

    Explains once again why the media get technology so wrong, which can be seen every day in their hype on “renewable” energy sources.

    Media is even worse at picking winners than government is.

    I see two things going on that they don’t understand:

    1. Every new technology starts off as a world conqueror but eventually finds its niche which might be invisible to the general public. That’s not failure, it’s just reality.

    2. Nobody has a clue about mechanical technology these days. They think everything evolves at the speed of software.

  147. jupes

    Just saw an ad on Sky spoken by a clown from the AMA. He was highlighting some little tacker who had “spent his entire life on Nauru”. He wanted the politicians to “listen to the doctor’s advice and bring him to Australia”.

    Does that mean we have to bring all the local kids to Australia too Doc?

    You idiot.

  148. John Constantine

    Credlin explains that the report that was released to spark the gay kids expelled thing only had a couple of copies, and had been buried by turnbull since the start of the year.

    The sheer bastardry of turnbullites and their media orcs in suicide bombing the Wentworth election with this weapon shows what scum turnbull is, and how the media keeps his filthy secrets.

    Comrades.

  149. C.L.

    New organ donation ad mocks the crucified Christ and the Virgin Mary … Report.
    Waleed Aly smirked, laughed and praised it tonight on The Project:

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hey we should allow more Paki Muslims to immigrate here.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    We let the Khan family in, and look at all the work their revolting brats created for the judiciary, police and prison system.

  151. John Constantine

    Their media will operate with turnbullites to progress regime change, the way their United Nations general assembly of Tyrants demand it.

    Holodomor.

    Comrades.

  152. Confused Old Misfit

    New organ donation ad mocks the crucified Christ and the Virgin Mary

    Pity they couldn’t have come up with one that mocked the “religion of peace”.
    They haven’t the balls for that kind of thing.

  153. Confused Old Misfit

    Getting moderated every time a certain belief system gets hinted at!

  154. cohenite

    New organ donation ad mocks the crucified Christ and the Virgin Mary … Report.
    Waleed Aly smirked, laughed and praised it tonight on The Project:

    Islam bans organ donation.

    Just re-watched Bob&Carol&Ted&Alice again; everything you need to know about the vacuous self-indulgent left is in it.

  155. Tiny Dancer

    If None is really a women then as Ron Burgundy would say – pipe hittin bitch. Bullying, FFS.

  156. Ivan Denisovich

    Pakistanis rally to demand death for Christian woman facing execution for blasphemy. Several thousand.

    Her crime? She drank water from a cup that was only to be used by muslims.

    They’re really making her suffer:

    Also in Pakistan, its blasphemy law is used as a weapon to persecute Christians. Asia Bibi is one such victim, and has suffered for eight years in prison under the threat of death……………………..

    Her case has outraged Christians worldwide and been a source of division within Pakistan, where two politicians who sought to help Bibi were assassinated, including Punjab governor Salman Taseer, who was shot by his own bodyguard.

    The ultra-religious Tehreek-e-Labaik Pakistan (TLP) party, which makes punishing blasphemy its main campaign rallying cry and lionizes the bodyguard who killed Taseer, warned the court against any “concession or softness” for Bibi.

    “If there is any attempt to hand her over to a foreign country, there will be terrible consequences,” TLP said in a statement.

    Insulting Islam’s prophet is punishable by death under Pakistani law, and blasphemy accusations stir such emotions that they are almost impossible to defend against. Dozens have been killed following blasphemy claims, sometimes by mobs of men.

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/pakistan-muslims-warn-of-terrible-consequences-if-christian-blasphemer-is-shown-any-softness

    Another hellhole for Christians:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/10/iraqi-archbishop-another-wave-of-persecution-will-be-the-end-of-christianity-after-2000-years-in-iraq

    Muslims making Christian lives a misery but Islamaphobia.

  157. Confused Old Misfit

    Dear God CL! How can you stand watching those atrociously smug pricks on the project.

  158. None

    Noone disagrees with you that the Liberal party comprises a bunch of homosexualists and lefties Empire. I will disagree with you however that it has been the natural home of conservatives. I’ve always been conservative but I’ve never always voted Liberals. Labor also had a Catholic right wing which was conservative on some issues and occasionally even economically literate – also I don’t see the point of voting for them since they really are dictated to by an elected Union officials. Even so there has never ever been a legitimate Conservative Party in Australia or even I would add a grassroots conservative movement. Australians are too apathetic to organise themselves in such a way and up until now it hasn’t mattered because our governments have been more or less benign even if somewhat dirigist. That’s changed in the last decade or so in that we now have government actively working against us and they’ve been able to get to this point because they know we’re apathetic and they will continue to get worse because we are a pathetic. For goodness sakes half the people on this blog even advocate for voting informal. You can’t get more apathetic than that.

  159. Ivan Denisovich

    Bloody italics.

  160. We let the Khan family in, and look at all the work their revolting brats created for the judiciary, police and prison system.

    See, immigration DOES promote employment growth.

    .
    Evening Zulu.
    Are you still offering a whiskey if I make it to WA sometime?

  161. None

    I think your mother’s calling you to bed, Tiny Dancer.

  162. Geriatric Mayfly

    We let the Khan family in,

    And the Baktyaris (sic) who, for peasants, certainly knew how to work the infidels’ Courts.

  163. Knuckle Dragger

    Cohenite,

    If Islam has banned organ donation, then naturally I’m all for it.

    Who is this Ford Girl people are speaking of?

  164. None

    Is Asia Bibi is assassinated every single Pakistani ambassador should be sent home every single non-resident Pakistani and all students should be expelled ; all Pakistani assets ovetseas be frozen, all trade should cease. Everything just shut down immediately with no warning except for this. F1 single military vehicle moves they get nuked. I’m sure India will oblige us with some assistance.

  165. Nob

    Who is this Ford Girl people are speaking of?

    Ngaire Dawn Fair.

    Gotta wiggle when she walk.

  166. Who is this Ford Girl people are speaking of?

    Google is your friend.
    (Well, not really, but you know what I mean.)

    Don’t forget to check out Trivago Girl, and Toyota Girl as well.
    Purely as research, of course.

  167. Nob

    Anthropomorphic airhead, but aren’t they all?
    https://youtu.be/RMcnTFTfOBs

  168. Empire 5:5

    This common piece of rewriting history needs to be corrected every time it is encountered. We had a postal survey not a vote…

    ..
    .

    You wrote so much text.

    Whatever the riveting truth of the matter, ssmarriage is now law.

    Tom Robinson defeated Fred Nile. How did that happen?

  169. Nob

    How do you embed YouTube videos?

  170. struth

    The Ford girl gets my vote.
    Would love to see her with a better hair cut.

    The Travago girl is a lanky skank with tickets on herself, and the other just a plain Jane.

    Just my opinion.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Evening Zulu.
    Are you still offering a whiskey if I make it to WA sometime?

    Be happy to meet you for a drink, somewhere.

  172. None

    In principle, yes, faceache, you just have to extract a dna sample. This is the blueprint for construction of the finished baby, loosely speaking. So you can tell quite a lot about what it will look like nine months down the track.

    Faceache : what BG has said here is actually misleading. Human beings are not constructed; they are conceived and then they grow and mature. You don’t add something to a child in order for it to turn into a teenager and you don’t add some extra bits to a teenager for it to turn into an adult. Humans are not constructed; they are conceived and then develop and mature.

  173. https://youtu.be/_pqNFurFMPU

    Nice car, Nob.
    Thanks for drawing our attention to it.

    .
    That was your intention, wasn’t it?

  174. struth

    That’s an old advert, I a B.

    I thought, oh there is a new haircut, and then looked at the model of the ranger.

  175. I am bespoke

    Nob

    Just post the URL from the address bar. But only after text.

  176. None

    Whatever the riveting truth of the matter, ssmarriage is now law.

    doesn’t matter. There is absolutely nothing to stop me and in fact it is my right to agitate to change the law just as the homos wanted to change the previous marriage law. So this issue is not going away and as you can see all that is gay still makes the papers everyday so get used to it and also expect things to get far far worse but don’t worry eventually people will reject the whole damn lot. I’d love to be alive to see it, but even if I don’t I will agitate every day to hurry it along and die knowing it is inevitable.

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    British people here on the beach, viewed from the comfort of our window armchairs, are having endless fun paddling wearing puffer jackets in the now-receding freezing waters of a three metre tide which overnight floated all the boats. The ebb tide is dumping them on the sand again. Margaret Thatcher knew a good analogy when she saw one.

    A big ebb coming up for Australia under Shorten I fear. There might not be any boats left to rise after he’s finished with us.

    In other news, the British upper middle classes are still standing firm in distinguishing themselves not just by accent but by manner. Using my sister in law, Hairy’s brother’s wife, as an exemplar of familiar phrases, I noted major differences in mode, overhearing mannerisms between sub-specpies of the broad middle class. In the Rowing Club group at Henley, it was all sis in law mode from the women, especially to the waiters: ‘thank you so much’ ‘it was quite delicious, thank you’ ‘could I trouble you for ..?’ ‘I don’t really think ..’ and one haughty ‘why on earth not?’.

    In the Classic Wedding palace, a far less assertively polite tone from a far more under thumb group with less ‘posh’ accents, all rather over-awed by the silhoutted pictures of March hares that featured on the dining room walls and in various bronzes of such hares on display in oak cabinets. For only a higher class than theirs would decorate in such a way, alluding so obliquely and with a touch of frission to ‘Alice’, sheer upper middle class iconography.

    In such ways do the English uphold their acutely minor social differentiations amongst the sets of those who are doing well in life, by subtle diffentiations which are also done with dress and with intense conversations about the best route by which to pick up little Harriet ot Henry from school (boarding school, of course) for ‘half term’.

    It has not much to do with money. Go forward, I suggest to Hairy as we left the carpark of the gracious old wedding venue. And risk going tightly between dat Porche and de Aston Martin? He says, starting to back out of our space.

  178. .

    The idea that gay marriage is so unpopular that we’re going to elect a Federal Parliament to repeal it is wishful thinking.

    13 March 2018 Essential poll Support 65% Oppose 26% Don’t know 9%

    Gay marriage is more popular than the Queen.

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Liberal MPs push Scott Morrison to evacuate detainees from Nauru

    By Elias Visontay
    12 minutes ago October 15, 2018
    No Comments

    Liberal MPs are pushing Scott Morrison to evacuate detained children and their parents from Nauru for humanitarian reasons, arguing the situation on the island has “crossed the threshold”.

    According to a report in the Herald Sun, Russell Broadbent, Craig Laundy and Julia Banks believe a “tipping point” has been reached at the detention centre, and have urged their leader to stage an intervention to remove more than 80 children and their families.

    Mr Broadbent and Mr Laundy met the Prime Minister in September to make the request to bring all of the children and their families on the island to Australia, prioritising those requiring urgent medical attention.

    Ms Banks, the Liberal member for the Victorian seat of Chisholm, said: “I really believe it comes from the hearts and minds of the Australian people”.

    “It is the only decision that can be made based on humanitarian grounds,” she said

    From the Communist rag, formerly known as the Oz.

  180. Be happy to meet you for a drink, somewhere.

    Great!
    Got a phone call today advising me that I have my final clearance examination with the heart surgeon is on 22 January. Assuming all goes well – and at this stage there’s no reason to doubt it, I will be cleared to fly again – been grounded for over two years. Mrs MV is already pushing for a trip over early Feb to visit her old Mum one last time. She’s 95 years old.

  181. .

    Huh?

    2018 Generic Congressional Vote

    ABC News/WaPo D’rats 53, GOP 42 Democrats +11

    I can’t believe these polls.

  182. None

    So if you listen to the interview after that ridiculous organ donor ad the guy clearly states that the Jesus clip is there to get people talking about organ donation but also to promote a documentary that he’s made that he wants people to pay money to go and see in the cinema. So much for altruism; it’s a f****** commercial for his enterprise. And here’s the deal just because you were raised in a Christian home doesn’t give you any insight as to what would Jesus do especially if you spent all your adult life living like a slattern and mocking god.

  183. Steve trickler

    From the NFSA archives.

    Glimpses of Australia on the eve of the First World War



  184. None

    I was about to post a link to that Zulu. F****** lettuce leaves. Did you see the other piece where Morris on was walking all over the Nats? I reckon Barnaby will be back as leader a lot sooner than a lot of people will expect.

  185. struth

    Mrs Struth just rang me from Adelaide airport.
    Firstly this morning, Qantas’ regional plane was turned around before even arriving at our QLD regional airport to pick her up.
    By the time she got to Brisvegas, the Qantas connecting flight wouldn’t wait five minutes for her.

    She did her work in the Brissy airport and waited until 6 pm for next flight.

    Got to Adelaide just then, and they’ve lost her bag.

    She still has a 130 km drive to do.

    Imploring her to stay in Adelaide.

    These things happen I know, but Qantas seems to be getting worse.

  186. The idea that gay marriage is so unpopular that we’re going to elect a Federal Parliament to repeal it is wishful thinking.

    It’s not just wishful thinking, Dot. It’s downright delusional.
    But there’s been a fair bit of that recently, here at the Cat.

  187. None

    So come November we basically finished our hundred year commemoration of World War One right? And all our original Anzacs have passed and so they are no longer part of our living memory which only lasts about three generations, your grand children, and unless we keep commemorating them they will be forgotten. That’s reason enough to always wear red poppies for Remembrance, and never white for the cowards who don’t know what it is like to fight for peace but suck off their legacy.

  188. None

    Always hilarious to see the chief liar and beta male of this blog tighten his sphincter at the whole thought of anyone repealing sodomite marriage. Don’t worry sunshine, it will happen. Get back to your porn, now.

  189. DrBeauGan

    John Roskam and the junior Bolt have been spruiking an IPA series of books of great Western literature. They got through some Dickens and Don Qixote and are now on Trollope’s The way we live now. I bought it on Kindle for about $6:00.

    That’s six bucks gone forever.

    I’ve read some other Trollope and thought it crap. Mannered, affected, dull as ditchwater and about revolting, dreary, stupid people. This is more of the same. If Western Civilisation was about this, we should close it down tomorrow.

    Why the hell do they peddle this shit? I sometimes think they equate culture with suffering acute boredom.

  190. I am bespoke

    Only beta males and assorted trash bring family into an argument and you’ve done it to two people. But I forgive you, None.

  191. .

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/charts-who-where-and-how-people-are-voting-on-same-sex-marriage-in-australia-2017-10

    The idea that Australia will repeal same-sex marriage sometime in the future is really strange.

    The longer it remains on the books, the more likely it is to stay.

  192. Mark A

    struth
    #2840160, posted on October 15, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    The Ford girl gets my vote.
    Would love to see her with a better hair cut.

    The Travago girl is a lanky skank with tickets on herself, and the other just a plain Jane.

    Just my opinion.

    The advert doesn’t show her in a good light, here is a short clip, disregard the ‘music’ and the place, just look at her lower body and legs, quite different from what you see in the ads.

  193. Big lightning show creeping through Western Vic.
    The power will be off soon. Torch on the bedside table.

  194. Beertruk

    Dickens
    I had to read Tale of Two Cities for englinsh in year 10. I had to force meself to read it. I hated it. Would have rather read Reach For The Sky, Fly For Your Life or the Phantom Major. Even Julius Ceasar and McBeth were better than Tale of Two Cities.

  195. None

    There you go fellas. This is what your government thinks of you.
    https://www.respect.gov.au/the-campaign/campaign-materials/

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Would have rather read Reach For The Sky, Fly For Your Life or the Phantom Major. Even Julius Ceasar and McBeth were better than Tale of Two Cities

    “Reach For the Sky” was one of the English texts we had in year 10 – one of the next generation had “Macbeth”, and found it hard going, until we got hold of the Royal Shakespeare Company’s production on video….

  197. None

    Quite hilarious to watch some of you assess whether a woman in an ad looks like “a lanky skank” while others of you can’t distinguish a woman from a male and yet another two of you again hyperventilate at the thought of not having sodomite marriage. *snort*

  198. DrBeauGan

    Beertruk
    #2840236, posted on October 15, 2018 at 10:59 pm
    Dickens
    I had to read Tale of Two Cities for englinsh in year 10. I had to force meself to read it. I hated it. Would have rather read Reach For The Sky, Fly For Your Life or the Phantom Major. Even Julius Ceasar and McBeth were better than Tale of Two Cities.

    Yeah, I suffered that one too, beertruck. The movie was nearly bearable. But the book was rubbish.

    Dickens was a cynical journalist and tried to keep the reader who is a sentimental dishonest creep on the emotional hook. I despise him.

  199. .

    None
    #2840239, posted on October 15, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    There you go fellas. This is what your government thinks of you.
    https://www.respect.gov.au/the-campaign/campaign-materials/

    Did you work on the campaign?

  200. DrBeauGan

    Macbeth has it’s moments, but you won’t get much from a cold reading. Seeing a good performance can be rivetting.

  201. cohenite

    2018 Generic Congressional Vote

    ABC News/WaPo D’rats 53, GOP 42 Democrats +11

    I can’t believe these polls.

    Keep a record and shove it up their arse when the opposite occurs.

  202. DrBeauGan

    Finding out why Shakespeare is admired is well worth doing. The same can be said up to a point for Jane Austen, although at the end of the day it’s chicklit. But there can be no excuse for wishing Trollope on anyone.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Macbeth has it’s moments, but you won’t get much from a cold reading. Seeing a good performance can be rivetting.

    I saw a film version of “Richard 111” set in England, in the 1930’s. Riveting, indeed.

  204. Keep a record and shove it up their arse when the opposite occurs.

    Didn’t all the MSM polls have Hilary winning by a landslide last time?

  205. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But there can be no excuse for wishing Trollope on anyone.

    Ditto Emily Bronte and “Wuthering Heights”, FFS.

  206. struth

    Quite hilarious to watch some of you assess whether a woman in an ad looks like “a lanky skank”

    It’s fun for us too.

  207. cohenite

    The same can be said up to a point for Jane Austen, although at the end of the day it’s chicklit.

    No.

  208. Knuckle Dragger

    Ford Girl.

    Just a hint of a British accent.

    Delightful.

  209. Old School Conservative

    The “what would Jesus do” ad is deliberately provocative in order to generate publicity for their film.

    Of course, they would have got much more publicity if Allah was drawn/depicted/filmed. Nothing like a fatwah to stimulate the masses.

  210. .

    We must be vigilant against Jane Austen and Tim Winton.

  211. Old School Conservative

    I was going to say the organ donor ad makers would be sticking their necks out if they used Allah in their ad, but I thought better of it.

  212. Ditto Emily Bronte and “Wuthering Heights”, FFS.

    Actually we should be grateful.
    Pretty soon “55 Shades of Grey” will be at the top of the required reading list.
    Probably a Hentai cartoon version.
    Available for Kindle.

  213. struth

    I remember reading a book when I was a kid about an old squirrel who sat adying, but then two other young ones came along, they were badgers and livened him up and they went on dashing adventures to the island of the stoats , weasels or some such.
    Such a well written book, I believe it was called the Island of the Pines.
    It really celebrated England and it’s rural lifestyle in a way.
    It’s cozyness and civility.

    If you can find it, even as an adult, you will love it.

    Heaps better than the wishing chair, and that was great as well.

    Now back to your adult conversation about Shakespeare.

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We’ll be back in about a week, MV.

    9ne day, if I have time, I will count up how many different bed we have slept in over the last two months. Tonight here again with our beautiful Georgian window (just off now to brieflt explore Pembrokeshire; shades of Lizzie Bennet), tomorrow in Shrewsbury, where we’ve never been and which Hairy has a fancy to see, then a quick stayover with friends in Cambridge, and back to Richmond for a last nite with the family, then off to Nairobi in Kenya for one night to pick up our flight back to Sydney. Where we hear it has been raining joy on my potplants all bivouacked in the garden for the duration.

  215. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Three months! Forgot to include the tours of Masai Mara and the Arctic Circle.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Big lightning show creeping through Western Vic.
    The power will be off soon. Torch on the bedside table.

    The lights are still on in Sodom.
    Except those that are off.
    Which begs all manner of questions as to what might be going on.

  217. DrBeauGan

    Ditto Emily Bronte and “Wuthering Heights”, FFS.

    + Lots.

    The same can be said up to a point for Jane Austen, although at the end of the day it’s chicklit.

    No.

    It is about the social lives of some women, Cohenite. I expect women to find it fascinating. I expect men to be more interested in the universe and how it works. So I rate the notebooks of Michael Faraday much higher. The prose is better too.

    I agree Jane has a nice sense of humour. But the preoccupations are those of women.

  218. Three months! Forgot to include the tours of Masai Mara and the Arctic Circle.

    You and Hairy will probably have to do a TESOL course when you get back.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    then off to Nairobi in Kenya for one night to pick up our flight back to Sydney.

    I’d be obliged for any postings about Nairobi. Africa is calling, and one of the tourist packages involves some time in Kenya.

  220. None

    The Island of the Pines by Elleston Trevor.

  221. Oh come on

    Damn. I was sure that Khashoggi guy’s name sounded familiar. He is related to that Saudi arms dealer.

    Look. There are no good guys here. Let them chop each other up in their internecine struggles; do we really care? There is a common enemy and that is the Islamic Republic of Iran. It scares Saudi Arabia greatly. Let’s all defeat Iran first and then we can quibble over niceties such as the location(s) of this Khashoggi chap’s limbs.

  222. Entropy

    I agree Jane has a nice sense of humour. But the preoccupations are those of women.

    Well, sure. When it really gets down to it, the entire purpose of civilisation is to address the preoccupations of women.

    Men are just happy if they could be up for a regular spot of raiding, pillaging and the r word.
    How’s it go? “crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!”

  223. struth

    The Island of the Pines by Elleston Trevor.

    Yes I have just googled it.

    I’m ashamed to admit.
    I should have duckduckgo-ed it.

  224. I am bespoke

    Zulu
    Last time I was in Africa I handed my youngest to the nanny’s at Kruger and got plastid. They loved him curly white hair and cheeky smile. But that was a long time ago.

  225. Entropy

    Actually, when I think of it, Austen herself was fully aware of the irony. In Persuasion there was actually a discussion about the roles of men and women in novels.

  226. struth

    Men are just happy if they could be up for a regular spot of raiding, pillaging and the r word.

    I must be getting old.
    That all sounds like hard work.

  227. None

    Google is god it’s ok if you occasionally pay her obeisance.

  228. struth

    I best call it a night shortly.
    Apparently you guys get a bit rough after midnight, which I believe it nearly is in the southern states.

  229. Let’s all defeat Iran

    Or we could just stay home, take Hogan’s advice, and throw another shrimp on the barbie.

  230. Makka

    Can you tell that the human foetus is a human one and not something else? Just asking.

    Oh dear. Trick question?

    For starters, look to find a cat fetus in a cat, a dog fetus in a dog and human fetus in a human. The location of the fetus should be good clue as to what it is. Have I missed something faceache?

  231. Entropy

    I must be getting old.
    That all sounds like hard work

    Nah, Struth, you have just been harnessed and otherwise co-opted into civilised society to suit a woman. Probably your mother, looking out for the next gen of Sisters.

    Their long term planners, they are.

  232. mh

    Morrison is now on board moving Australian embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

  233. struth

    For starters, look to find a cat fetus in a cat, a dog fetus in a dog and human fetus in a human. The location of the fetus should be good clue as to what it is. Have I missed something faceache?

    Also, only check the female of the species.

    They’ll be the ones with the girly bits, no matter what they tell you.

  234. Beertruk

    The Island of the Pines by Elleston Trevor.

    I’ll have to look into that. I did like The Coral Island, Treasure Island and Robinson Crusoe when I was a lot younger.

  235. DrBeauGan

    Well, sure. When it really gets down to it, the entire purpose of civilisation is to address the preoccupations of women.

    Civilisation has its benefits, but I think we’ve been overdoing it recently.

    The current preoccupations of women seem to be controlling men. They aren’t very good at it. jLP made the same point earlier.

  236. Mark A

    The Island of the Pines Hardcover – 1948
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  237. Beertruk

    Mark A
    #2840283, posted on October 16, 2018 at 12:03 am

    Ouch.

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