Monday Forum: October 15, 2018

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  1. mh

    OMG…

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    “The only way to shut down the Democrats new Mob Rule strategy is to stop them cold at the Ballot Box. The fight for America’s future is never over!” Ben Shapiro

  2. Oh come on

    Or we could just stay home, take Hogan’s advice, and throw another shrimp on the barbie.

    If Iran has its way, a barbie won’t be required. So yeah, stay home and get a nice gamma ray tan thrown into the bargain.

  3. DrBeauGan

    I’m on the Tel cure. Drambuie and cigars. Going well so far.

  4. Oh come on

    The only way to shut down the Democrats new Mob Rule strategy is to stop them cold at the Ballot Box. The fight for America’s future is never over!” Ben Shapiro

    Now that’s what I call a feather in the cap!

  5. struth

    The reason I bring up the Island of the Pines is that I have read many books, but that one he just painted the picture so well.
    You could really envisage it.
    And what this good writer put into your minds eye, was joyous.

    I have never forgotten that one book as being special.
    If I had it here I would read it again now.
    Mostly for Nostalgic reasons, but I know I would not be disappointed.

  6. Oh come on

    It’s not just a Presidential retweet – Trump actually tweeted a Shapiro quote. That is a keeper. I enjoyed the final episode of FXN’s Ben Shapiro Election Special this afternoon. It’s available on YouTube and entertaining viewing. I like the way that it took Shapiro four tries to slow his speech rate down.

  7. So yeah, stay home and get a nice gamma ray tan thrown into the bargain.

    Iran has gamma ray guns?
    I didn’t know that. How do they work?
    Anything like lasers?

  8. None

    Don’t pay attention to those ridiculous prices for second-hand books. It’s a scam. Certain booksellers plug in they stock two major book selling sites like Abe book and then run these algorithms to beef up the prices.

  9. Oh come on

    Do you ever tire of being a worthless carnival barker, MV?

  10. mh

    From Breitbart:

    KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) — Kanye West has met with Uganda’s president during a visit to the East African nation and given the 74-year-old leader a pair of white sneakers.
    President Yoweri Museveni says he and the American rapper held “fruitful discussions” about promoting tourism and arts.

    West and his wife, reality TV star Kim Kardashian West, have been vacationing in a national park in Uganda. He is said to be recording music in a tent.

    Uganda’s presidency released photos of a hoodie-wearing West meeting Museveni at the State House on Monday and exchanging gifts….

  11. Bill Thompson

    US economist, Jeffrey Sachs, was on Q&A tonight, preaching to Aussies about global warming & how everyone must do their bit to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. … Everyone except him, apparently?

    https://youtu.be/TwY300bTeFg

  12. DrBeauGan

    ‘That baby’s gonna look like me!’ How Whoopi Goldberg joked about the baptism of Harry and Meghan’s first child – the day BEFORE the couple announced they are expecting

    You see, sometimes there is a case for abortion.

  13. Steve trickler

    mh
    #2840285, posted on October 16, 2018 at 12:06 am
    OMG…

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    “The only way to shut down the Democrats new Mob Rule strategy is to stop them cold at the Ballot Box. The fight for America’s future is never over!” Ben Shapiro

    Enjoy the ride, Ben.

    All eyes on you.

  14. JC

    Bill, you’re a fucking champion. Good on you for making him speechless.

    You should have asked him how he could show his face for the destruction he caused in the old soviet bloc with his economic shock policies thereby turning those places away from liberalism.

  15. OH&S eventually makes any progress too difficult.

    Everything is too risky for the hi-viz clowns. No interstellar colonisation for you!

  16. OCO, when I was a toddler there were “Reds Under the Bed”.
    Then it was “The Yellow Peril”.
    Then I was conscripted to combat “The Domino Effect”.
    Then threat became economic and we all going to have learn Mandarin.
    Now, apparently, China is going to achieve world domination with their solitary 1972 aircraft carrier.
    Meanwhile, Iran is going to blow us up with nukes they don’t actually have.

    Back in the real world in Turkey there is a real-life homicidal maniac who has made himself Dictator for Life, who is hell-bent on establishing a world wide Caliphate with himself as Head Caliph. And what did the West do about that?

    Why, we gave him 70 -90 medium-yield nuclear bombs so he could feel secure.

  17. None

    Well judging by some of the reviews put up by adults struth, people seem to really enjoy that book. I looked at my usual book haunts but there’s only those three pricey ones from UK booksellers and they look dodgy because they’re not even marked as first editions or even in reasonable nick.

  18. Oh come on

    OCO, when I was a toddler there were “Reds Under the Bed”.
    Then it was “The Yellow Peril”.
    Then I was conscripted to combat “The Domino Effect”.

    Right. Because these weren’t legitimate fears that were effectively combated.

    Then threat became economic and we all going to have learn Mandarin.
    Now, apparently, China is going to achieve world domination with their solitary 1972 aircraft carrier.

    Seriously? You embarrass yourself.

    Meanwhile, Iran is going to blow us up with nukes they don’t actually have.

    They don’t have yet.

    Back in the real world in Turkey there is a real-life homicidal maniac who has made himself Dictator for Life, who is hell-bent on establishing a world wide Caliphate with himself as Head Caliph. And what did the West do about that?

    Why, we gave him 70 -90 medium-yield nuclear bombs so he could feel secure.

    WTF are you talking about?

    Deranged carnival barker.

  19. Makka

    There should be much more of this;

    BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

    “We cannot have a woman legally recognized as a trans woman in society, and not be recognized that way in sports,” McKinnon told USA Today.

    Focusing on performance advantage is largely irrelevant because this is a rights issue. We shouldn’t be worried about trans people taking over the Olympics. We should be worried about their fairness and human rights instead.”

    McKinnon also compared restrictions on biological males competing in women’s events to racial segregation.

    This is bigger than sports, and it’s about human rights,” McKinnon said to USA Today.

    “By catering to cisgender people’s views, that furthers transgender people’s oppression. When it comes to extending rights to a minority population, why would we ask the majority? I bet a lot of white people were pissed off when we desegregated sports racially and allowed black people. But they had to deal with it.”

    This dude has all the cliches down pat.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/14/biological-male-wins-womens-world-cycling-championship/

  20. Oh come on

    BIOLOGICAL MALE WINS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN WOMEN’S CYCLING

    I (and others) have said it many times before: we need more of this shit. Much more.

  21. calli

    Des Deskperson
    #2839659, posted on October 15, 2018 at 3:46 pm
    Last night’s episode of ‘Pine Gap’ did not disappoint.

    Loved your review, Des. Made me laugh over my cornflakes.

    Steven Curry making Brown look protean? Chortle.

  22. Fisky

    OCO, when I was a toddler there were “Reds Under the Bed”.

    You claimed in a newsletter that Indonesia was going to invade northern Australia and exterminate the aborigines.

  23. WTF are you talking about?
    Deranged carnival barker.

    OCO, the fact that Turkey has 70 to 90 B61(?) U.S. medium yield nuclear bombs has been reported on, and openly discussed, in the MSM many times over the past decade (Google it).

    The fact that Erdogan threw the Yanks out of that airforce base and stationed his own troops to secure and guard the bombs a couple of years ago, was reported on, and openly discussed, in the MSM at the time (Google it). Both facts have been openly discussed here at the Cat in the past.

    I’m not responsible for your total lack of knowledge of world events that have received significant, open, MSM coverage, and insulting me will not make up for your ignorance.

  24. calli

    This morning’s rising sun is bouncing brightly off the peaks girdling Boulder to the west.

    Yesterday’s dusting of snow has all but disappeared from the streets (thank goodness as today we drive the 600km to Rapid City), but lies heavy in patches on the slopes. The pine trees (or most likely spruce) look as if they’ve been dusted with icing sugar. The sky is a bright blue cap.

    Boulder is highly recommended. Much better than staying in Denver.

  25. zyconoclast

    ‘Concerning’: HSC gender trends have not changed over 20 years

    This year, boys make up 93 per cent of the engineering studies…
    Boys also account for 76 per cent of the physics candidature…
    They make up 64 per cent of students doing the highest-level maths subject offered…

    girls continue to dominate the highest-level English subject,
    comprise 98 per cent of the textiles cohort
    93 per cent of the dance cohort
    Girls also make up 72 per cent of the English extension 2 HSC cohort

  26. None

    So Harry had already knocked up Megan when they were getting married full stop and they couldn’t wait till after their trip to spill the news they spilt it instead on the same day as his cousin got married. And all this pretense by carrying two big purple folders and staring at every camera. Who are these idiots trying to kid? I like the Queen but all her offspring are spoilt morons. If these two so much as squeak about global warming or what we should do with our parks they should be just invited from visiting ever again.

  27. JC

    Hahahahahahaha This is a variation of Alan Bond bullshit thousands of AK47 in his basement. Instead of Bond and the AK47s, it Erdogan stealing American nukes.

  28. None

    You can’t do much with physics and maths degrees unless you spend a decade in poverty to get a PhD and then try to get a university all research position. They are almost as useless as arts degrees. It’s cruel to condemn young men to this path. Of course they can up to become teachers instead but you know how much they love male teachers these days.

  29. None

    It’s a real shame that Trump wasn’t in office when it again went on his Purge after that attempted coup. It’s a bigger pity that that attempted coup failed. I hope to Turkish Lira is still crashing and the entire Turkish economy goes down the toilet.

  30. Oh come on

    You are a carnival barker, MV. The US has long stationed tactical nuclear weapons in Turkey – this is not news. It does not make Turkey a nuclear power. Even if the US lost physical control over their weapons, whoever possesses them is not in operational control of them. They cannot be deployed.

  31. JC

    Look at how easily this loon creates a conspiracy.

    OCO, the fact that Turkey has 70 to 90 B61(?) U.S. medium yield nuclear bombs has been reported on, and openly discussed, in the MSM many times over the past decade (Google it).

    The fact that Erdogan threw the Yanks out of that airforce base and stationed his own troops to secure and guard the bombs a couple of years ago, was reported on, and openly discussed, in the MSM at the time (Google it). Both facts have been openly discussed here at the Cat in the past.

    It’s laughable nonsense. Turkey has never had control of those nuclear weapons and does not. Moreover they are fitted with codes that only the US knows.
    Incredible.

    U.S. Air Force Colonel Paul Quigley has been named as the new commander at the U.S. İncirlik Air Base’s 39th Weapons System Security Group (WSSG) in the southern Turkish province of Adana.

    39th WSSG Commander Col. Quigley took over his mission from 39th Air Base Wing Commander Air Force Colonel David Eaglin with the 39th WSSG change of command ceremony at the İncirlik Air Base on June 7, the official website of the base announced.

    Eaglin presented the guidon to Quigley as a tradition of a change of command ceremony, formally transferring authority and responsibility from the outgoing commander to the incoming commander.

    The İncirlik Air Base serves as a main base for U.S. military operations in the region.

    The base is used by the U.S. Air Force, the Turkish Air Force, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Saudi Air Force. It also houses a stockpile of dozens of American tactical nuclear weapons.

    FMD, just a sad carnival barker.

  32. JC

    The Social Studies Journal needs to be updated.

  33. None

    So as I’ve been saying another blog never tear down a fence until you know why it was put up in the first place. So the catmeat Shiek has come out railing against gay teachers. And so now we know why Gillard passed the laws regarding private religious schools. All I need to wait for now is mention of Tony Burke.

  34. Snoopy

    I (and others) have said it many times before: we need more of this shit. Much more.

    I have said for a couple of years that Lleyton Hewitt should have a crack at the WTA circuit.

  35. Oh come on

    OCO, the fact that Turkey has 70 to 90 B61(?) U.S. medium yield nuclear bombs

    Oh, you remember the “70 to 90” range, but you’re going to pretend you might have got the model number wrong? Pfffffffffft. I don’t need to “Google it” but it’s pretty obvious that you just did. I’d go so far to say that, 45 minutes ago, you knew virtually nothing about what you’re now asserting. “Memoryvault” – you’re nothing of the kind. Sad old git is what you are.

  36. Oh come on
    #2840320, posted on October 16, 2018 at 1:24 am

    I see.
    So in a little less than an hour we’ve managed to go from “WTF What nuclear bombs? What are you talking about?” to yes, they have nuclear bombs, everybody knows that, but they can’t use them, ‘cos a piece of paper (a nuclear arms limitations treaty) says they can’t.

    Fair enough. I guess that’s about all the progress we can hope for in one night.
    Good work, OCO.

  37. struth

    I reckon that black serena Williams is actually shaun with a couple big falsies.

    That’s not female.

    That’s why he’s always wearing those frilly knickers.

  38. Cpt Seahawks

    Got a call and I missed the last half of Qanda blog. Bad one.

  39. JC

    You dissembling piece of dog shit, Faulthead.

    Turkey does not posses nuclear weapons and there have been absolutely zero reports of them confiscating those that the US has stored there. Also, the airbase where the US holds these weapons has been and continues to be in US control.

    Also there has not been any references by people here to suggest otherwise other than groundless speculation at times.

    Now fuck off and go post your worthless comments elsewhere.

  40. Oh come on

    I didn’t have to “Google it” to know that the US has long stationed tactical nuclear weapons in Turkey. Fark. This is common knowledge amongst anyone with a basic knowledge of Cold War history. That does not make Turkey a nuclear power. The Turks can steal all of the US nukes they can get their hands on – they’re no better than boulders flung from catapults if the Turks aren’t able to arm them.

  41. Cpt Seahawks

    I like Trump’s new ocean garbage laws. Hahaha. Brilliant. 5d.

  42. None

    Morrison open to moving Israel embassy to Jerusalem
    Scott Morrison has signalled a ­potential relocation of Australia’s embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in line with a decision by US President Donald Trump earlier this year to formally recognise the city as the legitimate capital of Israel. In a significant shift in the ­Coalition’s Middle East policy, the Prime Minister will also move to a hardline stance against Iran, ­announcing an

    inquiry into whether Australia should abandon support for the Iran nuclear deal, which the US has also walked away from. Mr Morrison will today unveil a foreign policy statement on ­Israel prompted by a decision to vote “no” tomorrow on a UN resolution to recognise the Palestinian Authority as the chair of the G77 group of nations next year.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/morrison-open-to-moving-israel-embassy-to-jerusalem/news-story/3ae681558ad2b72d36c4175542cdf883

    Why the hell are we still supporting the Iran deal two years after it was effectively torn by Trump? And why were we stupid enougj to support Obama’s Iran deal in the first place?

  43. JC

    No No no. Turkey has taken control of these weapons by overtaking the air force base and didn’t need the codes. In order that the nukes are safe, Erdegan has stored them in Bond’s and Laurie Connell’s basements. The nukes are now in Perth.

  44. None

    You dissembling piece of dog shit, Faulthead.

    Settle down JC. You’re sounding just like Ginnie.

  45. None

    Haha the Daily Telegraph has prefixed the news of Harry’s baby announcement after their arrival in Australia with “Heir Dinkum”. I’d be almost inclined to say that was a Tim Blair contribution but Blair would know that Harry’s Offspring would be like number 6 squillion in line to the throne.

  46. JC

    Even your own link says nothing of the sort, you degenerate barker. It says nothing about Turkey taking over the base in 2016.

    You really are a fucking barker, Fault.

    The good thing is that the only person you appear to have recruited here is the Rones and that is nothing special.

  47. Oh come on

    All jokes aside (and MV is a joke). What more evidence is needed that MV is a know-nothing, blowhard carnival barker? He will seize upon something he knows almost nothing about, will “Google it”, and extrapolates a ridiculous conclusion which he then presents as fact. However, his conclusion betrays the fact he knows nothing about what he is asserting.

    He’s like a 15 year old reading about socialism for the first time. OMG! Shiny thing! It’s just sad.

  48. JC

    Both reports are referencing the temproary closure of Turkish airspace around the base at the time of the attempted coup and from that you’re peddling the nonsense the base is now in Turkish control along with the weapons.

    You should be sectioned. You should be placed in a psychiatric unit.

  49. calli

    Dr BG: We live on an unremarkable planet circling an unremarkable star in a pretty average galaxy,

    How can you possibly know this?

    For all we know, we are unique in all the universe.

  50. Oh come on

    US airmen, nuclear arms still under siege in Turkey’s Incirlik airbase

    America’s Nukes Aren’t Safe in Turkey Anymore

    MV resorts to Google once again to backfill his knowledge deficit. Did you actually read these articlse, MV? Pro tip: they aren’t at all friendly to your claim that the Turks have stolen a bunch of US nukes and could use them.

  51. Mark A

    If someone is in physical control of a nuclear missile, warhead, fusion material and all, there is no reason they can’t make them operational.

    Only deterrent would be either a booby trap that blows them up, highly unlikely, or the threat of immediate retaliation.

    I’m not aware of the state of these missiles.

  52. JC

    OCO

    You sound as though you believe the loon does this sort of thing by accident, whereas I don’t think that’s the case. He’s purposefully intentioned to distort something as a way of recruitment. The trouble for him here is that outside of one person, everyone knows he’s talking shit.

  53. JC

    Mark A

    The US has total control of the base and therefore the bombs under US control. Any other discussion is hypothetical.

  54. Cpt Seahawks

    Superannuation: When a back packer leaves Australia, they either claim and withdraw their superannuation employer contributions back and pay 65% of it in TAX, or lose it completely. This means a burden of tax that is incomprehensible.

  55. Cpt Seahawks

    Aged care paid out of pocket: Is a valid tax offset to the payer.

  56. JC

    I’m not aware of the state of these missiles.

    So what?

    Faultfuck wants people to believe that base is in under Turkish control, the nukes are in Turkish hands and even though both those two links he posted make absolutely zero mention of this we should believe that a major event like this has not been reported for the past two years. However Faultfuck knows this to be true and that it has been widely reported even though it hasn’t.

  57. I’m not aware of the state of these missiles.

    They’re not a missile, Mark. They are a bomb. As such, the terms “tactical”, and “strategic” are meaningless. If they are dropped from a plane within the country of departure, they could be termed “tactical”. If a plane carries them over a border into another country, they are “strategic”.

    The ones in Turkey are considered “tactical”, only because Turkey has signed a piece of paper agreeing not to carry them over the border into another country.

    The B61 is capable of being to, carried by, and dropped by a variety of planes, including the F16. Turkey owns and operates F16’s.

    The B61 is fitted with a very simple four digit code (they were designed 40 years ago), which is immaterial anyway because the US gave Turkey the codes when they stationed the bombs there.

  58. Oh come on

    I don’t know, JC. I think he’s pre-oriented to determine the most contrarian view, no matter how wacky it may be. The wackier, the better – because he believes what is plausible occurs by design, not by path of least resistance, laissez-faire, letting the chips fall where they may or whatever. He does believe that a small number of individuals control society, and that they are inherently ill-intentioned, This is what makes him a conspiracy theorist nutjob rather than a communist. Communists think the individuals controlling society are motivated by good intentions.

  59. Cpt Seahawks

    Kagoshi is a false flag.

  60. Mark A

    As I said I’m not aware of the actual situation, but the lack of the codes is a non issue. Guidance systems are available, just rip the US one out and replace.

    An interesting question would be, how are they going to remove them or disable them if Turkey decides to kick the US out?

  61. Oh come on

    MV brings more of the stupid.

    If they are dropped from a plane within the country of departure, they could be termed “tactical”. If a plane carries them over a border into another country, they are “strategic”.

    This is so boneheaded I barely know where to start. MV, you ought to just admit it. You knew nothing about this an hour ago. Am I wrong? Tell me I’m wrong.

    But you and I both know I’m right.

  62. None

    Thank god Rita Panahi tells it straight but will the right people listen https://mobile.twitter.com/theheraldsun/status/1051698938842099712

    And I see Caroline Marcus is calling b******* on the lie that gay students how being expelled. But as has been pointed out how about the liberals issue management. A report about religious Freedom has once again been turned into a story about protecting gays. How fucken hopeless. Don’t wonder why Cat Meat shiek has fired up.

  63. Cpt Seahawks

    Gays are way gross.

  64. Cpt Seahawks

    Can’t beleive that got through.

  65. Oh come on

    No. It is not a simple matter to circumvent the PAL of US (or Soviet/Russian) nuclear weapons. Or Chinese, for that matter. It can be done, but it takes time. And you can guarantee that if the Turks seized a handful of US nukes from Incirlik, within hours all of the transport links stretching out in a several hundred KM radius of the base would be carpet-bombed, and US special forces would be on the ground within a day or two retrieving their weapons.

  66. This is so boneheaded I barely know where to start. MV

    Okay, OCO. Educate me. What is the difference between “tactical” and “strategic” weapon when applied to “dumb” (non-guided) nuclear bombs, dropped from a plane?

  67. None

    The Duchess of Sussex(Meghan)is pregnant,so everyone is talking about #RoyalBabyThe world already acknowledges this baby and no one dares to say something absurd like “it’s a foetus not a baby!”Every baby in the womb deserves the same acknowledgement.Life begins in the womb. https://t.co/WpkRWC4bGH— Obianuju Ekeocha (@obianuju) October 15, 2018

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  68. None

    The Duchess of Sussex(Meghan)is pregnant,so everyone is talking about #RoyalBabyThe world already acknowledges this baby and no one dares to say something absurd like “it’s a foetus not a baby!”Every baby in the womb deserves the same acknowledgement.Life begins in the womb. https://t.co/WpkRWC4bGH— Obianuju Ekeocha (@obianuju) October 15, 2018

  69. Oh come on

    Level of deterrence, duh.

  70. Oh come on

    See how I didn’t need to look that up, MV? I just knew it.

  71. Oh come on

    Strategic nukes are powerful enough to wipe out cities. They’re useful for deterrence purposes, because their existence makes the population of an adversary implore their leaders to ensure that such weapons are never deployed. The drawback of strategic nukes is that, once used, it’s pretty much game over. Mutually Assured Destruction played to its endgame.

    Tactical nukes destroy strategic targets – military bases, ports, railway terminals, hardened bunkers, missile silos etc. Of course they pretty badly damage whatever surrounds the targets, but the surroundings are not the target.

    You know, I just typed this out, MV. Didn’t need to “Google it” at all. How are you doing?

  72. Oh come on

    The Duchess of Sussex(Meghan)is pregnant,so everyone is talking about #RoyalBabyThe world already acknowledges this baby and no one dares to say something absurd like “it’s a foetus not a baby!”

    This is not a human being, so why pretend it is? You know a better argument against abortion that the “average Jo” would accept? The mathematical elegance of cellular division. Yeah, that’ll do it.

  73. You know, I just typed this out, MV. Didn’t need to “Google it” at all. How are you doing?

    I’m doing just fine OCO.
    You’re not.

    These days (and for a long time now), the difference between “tactical”, and “strategic” boils down to how far you can throw it. End of story. When you fire it from a cannon only capable of throwing it a couple of kilometres, it is “tactical”. When you load itonto a plane capable of flying into into another country a thousand miles away, it is “strategic”.

    But enough fun and frivolity. It’s 2.00am here and if Mrs MV catches me still up, I’ll be in the dog house for a week.

    Have fun, see you tomorrow evening.

  74. the difference between “tactical”, and “strategic” boils down to how far you can throw it

    A few defence analysts will be shocked to find their job definition has changed.

  75. Oh come on

    When you fire it from a cannon only capable of throwing it a couple of kilometres, it is “tactical”

    LOL MV thinks nuclear suicide bombers make up the pre-eminent role of modern nuclear weapons doctrine. How quaint.

    IIRC, the US fielded a platform called the Davy Crockett which fits MV’s eccentric definition of a tactical nuclear weapon. It was phased out in the 1960s. Suitcase nukes were apparently a thing, too.

  76. Oh come on

    A few defence analysts will be shocked to find their job definition has changed.

    A few? MV’s redefinition, if true, is arguably the most consequential shift in defence doctrine since the fielding of the nuclear weapon itself. Everyone needs to go back to square one because MV has changed the game with his weird brainfart.

  77. Nob

    Good work Bill Thompson.

    The simplest, most obvious follow-up question , the one that every sane person still watching is screaming at the telly, but that our media somehow never thinks to ask.

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And now for something about da wukkas.

    This arvo we drove firstly to Milford Haven, which in spite of its pleasant name turns out to be an industrial waterside town a port and previous fishing harbour, now encircled on its bayside by a massive oil refinerary and a sweep of hugh white wind turbines nestled amongst some storage tanks or else dominant beside the town’s roadways.

    We drive down to the bleak-looking long waterfront, which the council has tried to tidy up with a marine pathway, and stop to look at two fairly small monuments. One is a tribute to the fishermen of the past, a statue of a stolid fellow pulling in a net, and the other is rather peculiar bullet-like bronze odd sort of obelisque, tapered at each ends. What can be on the other side of it, facing out to the refinery? Curious, I walk around it to see and find … a convex mirror! I am looking at myself, backed by the refinery. It claims to be a tribute to the refinery men ‘who made this town’, or words to that effect. From its style and level of weathering I suspect raised here in the 1960’s.

    Of even greater interest were five polished steel round posts, each with an In Memorium message on the top, these shiney posts a little bit fancy with a few knobs on them, but certainly of a more recent vintage. Each one, possibly drawn by lots, contained a family’s last message to their loved one, and very touching they were, because every man (and the one woman) were recently-deceased workers from the refinery. All the messages spoke of the mens’ familial relationships and of their hard work for their families. I have not written their surnames in my verbatum extracts here:

    Dennis (Denny) R.; what we would want more than anything is some more time with you.
    A loving son, husband, dad and grampy.

    Andrew (Banger), J.

    A genuine, fun loving and hard working wonderful man. He was devoted to his family.

    Robert (Rob) B. 1963-2011

    He was well thought of in the community and nothing was too much trouble. He worked in the refineries for much of his adult life. He worked hard to provide for his family. You couldn’t have found a better person.

    —–

    Rest in Peace, you valiant and hard-working honourable men. My mother’s sister’s husband was also a refinerary worker, who struggled to keep his seven children in fed throughout his sadly shortened life. It was so nice to see ordinary men remembered in this way, in the words of their own kin, not some bureaucrat.

    After leaving that little frequented spot, we drove on through to some coastal holiday lands at Little Haven and Broad Haven, mostly shut up now at tge season’s end, and treated ourselves to an ice cream.

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Still tapping on the phone so apologies for the many escaped typos. Dinner now calls.

  80. Tom

    Gary Varvel on West Virginia Democrat Senator Joe Manchin.

  81. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2840343, posted on October 16, 2018 at 2:02 am
    Dr BG: We live on an unremarkable planet circling an unremarkable star in a pretty average galaxy,

    How can you possibly know this?

    For all we know, we are unique in all the universe.

    Our sun is an ordinary G class star, Calli. There are billions of them in our galaxy. There’s No special about sol, as far as we know. Earth comes between Venus which is too hot for us and Mars which is too cold. We may be able to change that one day, but just at the moment we are the only planet sitting in what is called the Goldilocks zone, where water is mostly a liquid, for our star. Other stars have their own Goldilocks zones, and some are known to contain planets. Google exoplanets if you want to know more.

    Our galaxy was once thought to be unusually big, but we got some sums wrong, and it now looks to be much like our neighbours, such as M31. Google it to see some pretty pictures.

    It’s possible we are alone in this great galloping universe of billion of galaxies. That would make us very special indeed. Believing it was created just for us strikes me as rather conceited. To the point of self-absorbed lunacy, actually. So my remarks about our ordinariness are based on limited but real astronomical knowledge. My doubts about our uniqueness in being the only intelligent species in the universe are based on statistics and the observation that most of us aren’t all that smart. I don’t doubt that we are unique in the sense that the aliens, if we meet them, won’t look much like us.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    I like Mike Lester’s best this morning, but Tina Garrison’s one is apt because of the world shattering news this morning.

    Warren releases DNA analysis on Native American heritage, firing back at Trump attacks

    The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian. Yay!

  83. DrBeauGan

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian. Yay!

    Is that enough to let her wear feathers in her hair without facing a charge of cultural appropriation?

    No sane person would care.

  84. Tom

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian.

    Ahaha. Sorry, Pocahontas — fail! Most tribes require at least 1/16th ancestry to claim Injun heritage. Trust the corrupt US news media to leave out the inconvenient truth.

    The real story is that the stupid political whore was 100% confident that the MSM would take her side. Disgraceful.

  85. Herodotus

    Fauxcahontas has a readout that is disappearingly small, and proves she’s using self-identification rather freely.
    Meanwhile, over at the BBC, the Hard Talk program went so squishy with its latest guest they were practically feeding her lines. They go hard on Israelis, Hungarians and conservatives, but much less so on people they basically agree with. Who was she? I missed the name, but she was the adviser to (wait for it) – Anita Hill, who was the accuser of judge Clarence Thomas back when he faced confirmation hearings.

  86. Snoopy

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian.

    Now let’s have another expert review her genome.

  87. Herodotus

    I think the magic number here is one eighth.

  88. DrBeauGan

    A more interesting statistic would be to find out what percentage of US citizens have that much or more Indian ancestry. Or negroid ancestry. Could be around half the population.

  89. Snoopy

    Not quite what you asked for BG.

    From the NYT:

    On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

    Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African.

    The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

  90. Leigh Lowe

    A F Branco today for a magnificent set of saggy man-boobs.

  91. DrBeauGan

    From the NYT

    That was quite funny, Snoopy.

    This determination people have to force everything into boxes even when they plainly don’t fit has been obvious on the Çat, too. Like defining four cells as a human being. You’d think we’d know better. But for some people, language definitions are made not just to talk about the world but to bolster some theory about it. It’s a sort of highbrow bullshit.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Question.
    Do drumsticks ever wear out?

  93. Peter Campion

    Let’s hope Johannes got Megan Markle’s colour and lips exaaaaaaactly right….

  94. DrBeauGan

    Leigh Lowe
    #2840405, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:03 am
    Question.
    Do drumsticks ever wear out?

    When we’ve sorted that out, we could move on to chopsticks. Also piano-accordions, hot-air balloons and how old gravy has to be before it’s beyond salvage.

  95. DrBeauGan

    In all cases, we need numbers, not feelz.

  96. Atoms for Peace

    Drumsticks can get freezer burn😎

  97. Entropy

    What’s this number of cells bullshit? You wouldn’t even know you were pregnant. Would those cells be even embedded in the wall of the womb? What a stupid argument.

  98. Crossie

    US airmen, nuclear arms still under siege in Turkey’s Incirlik airbase

    America’s Nukes Aren’t Safe in Turkey Anymore

    My guess would be that this is all political theatre and that the actual weapons were removed shortly after the failed coup.

  99. Gilas

    Have just scrolled past the usual overnight dribble, no offense intended to the usual suspects (PBUT).
    My right flexor digitorum profundus has never been so strong.

  100. Peter Campion

    Sky reporting on “soft flooring in cattle yards” – how long before it’s “required” in paddocks, too?

    Anything to force us all to be vegynsys for Gaia…

  101. struth

    Good moaning.

    Well Meagan at least took off the family pants for something.

    That girl is trouble.
    Already an outed leftist.

  102. Crossie

    Entropy
    #2840414, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:35 am
    What’s this number of cells bullshit? You wouldn’t even know you were pregnant. Would those cells be even embedded in the wall of the womb? What a stupid argument.

    I significant number of women know only too well that they are pregnant, with my first child I had morning sickness right into the eighth month.

  103. DrBeauGan

    significant number of women know only too well that they are pregnant, with my first child I had morning sickness right into the eighth month.

    Poor you. Morning sickness is fairly convincing.

    The fathers get a much better deal. I got the sheer joy of a tiny hand wrapped around my index finger and it had been glorious all the way.

  104. Top Ender

    Australia’s Grand Mufti has signalled open hostility to gay teachers in Islamic schools in defiance of Bill Shorten’s proposed changes to discrimination laws, saying they engage in “abnormal practices that contradict nature” and suffer from “mental illness”.

    Link

  105. Boambee John

    Mark A
    #2840355, posted on October 16, 2018 at 2:20 am
    As I said I’m not aware of the actual situation, but the lack of the codes is a non issue. Guidance systems are available, just rip the US one out and replace.

    The codes are to arm the weapon, not for the guidance system.

    Someone mentioned a four digit code. Even if the code system has not been uograded, and uses numbers only, that is 10,000 possibilities. Add in symbols and letters and the number increases exponentially.

    Unarmed, the device is a large, streamlined, radioactive rock.

  106. struth

    I’ve had a bit of morning sickness in my life, had nothing to do with being pregnant.

    As far as Scott Morrison agreeing on principle to move Australia’s embassy to Jerusalem, that’s just a baiter for the jooos in Wentworth.
    Again, like a coal powered station or an end to the UN invasion agenda, it won’t happen.

  107. struth

    Yes Dr BG, but were you in the delivery room?

    I am only 51 and even back then when my son was born, I was expected to be in there.

    Apparently as chief abuse receival officer.

    I think it is no place for the father to be, on hindsight.

  108. Entropy

    Sure Cassie. My point though, is that at that stage you are not pregnant. There would not be hormonal changes, you would not yet be getting morning sickness. And nobody would be considering abortion, as they would not know, or actually be, pregnant.

  109. struth

    There was a fad a while ago, not sure if it is still done a lot, of filming the birth.

    Really?

    Takes all types I suppose.

    But asking friends to come around and watch it?

    Bloody hell.

  110. I am bespoke

    Unfortunately the Sky crew will fall for it and so will AB, struth.

  111. Empire 5:5

    Uncovered memos outline not only the Agency’s lack of a declassification review program, but an internal policy of claiming some CIA records as exempt from declassification entirely

    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2018/oct/15/cia-25xempt1/

  112. min

    Turned on Tv early to read 7 s news band that Harry and Meghan are pregnant . Yes that. Is right not only are we getting a new black prince but creating biological history.
    Note that now corrected to expecting.
    Re Indonesis , Iwas studying Indonesian at Uni and our Lecturer showed a map of his native land that included the top of Australia and West PNG shaded green like the archipelago . This was before take over of Irian Jaya.

  113. Top Ender

    NT news going for the record this morning. Three apostrophe mistakes in one short article!

    Tassie changes course over HMAS Darwin

    TASMANIA has backflipped on it’s bid to take decommissioned ship HMAS Darwin and sink it off Bay of Fires, despite putting in a bid for the vessel.

    The Tasmanian Government rejected the formal offer after realising the cost associated to scuttle the vessel and yearly upkeep wasn’t feasible.

    The vessel would have been turned into a dive site at Skeleton Bay.

    It was estimated to cost $12.5 million to prepare and establish the ex-HMAS Darwin as a dive site and a further $600,000 a year to maintain it.

    The Navy frigate was part of a tug of war between Tasmania and the Gold Coast, which had offered $10 million for HMAS Darwin.

    HMAS Darwin made it’s last visit to the Territory capital in October before making it’s way down the East Coast to Sydney.

  114. Baldrick

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian.

    Being an Amerindian is more than using a calculator to determine your potential lineage to a 15th generation descendant.

  115. DrBeauGan

    Top Ender
    #2840423, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:03 am
    Australia’s Grand Mufti has signalled open hostility to gay teachers in Islamic schools in defiance of Bill Shorten’s proposed changes to discrimination laws, saying they engage in “abnormal practices that contradict nature” and suffer from “mental illness”.

    Link

    He’s quite right.

    Islam is saner than leftism. That’s not a very high standard.

  116. Empire 5:5

    James F_ Woods:

    James Woods
    @RealJamesWoods
    ·
    7h
    The bad news for #Pocahontas: she’s gotta swap the headdress for a sombrero. #SeñoritaWarren

  117. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2840426, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:14 am
    Yes Dr BG, but were you in the delivery room?

    I am only 51 and even back then when my son was born, I was expected to be in there.

    Apparently as chief abuse receival officer.

    I think it is no place for the father to be, on hindsight.

    I’ve never been there. When my second child was borne, my then wife needed me to be with her, but I never got the message. I felt really bad about that. I’d have been there if I’d known, although it would have been pretty bad. Having someone you love suffer and being unable to do anything about it is a hellish thing.

  118. struth

    The sky crew are hopeless.

    At least a few of them admitted they are not right wing.

    That old bird with the blonde hair is the dumbest loud mouth they have.

    Where did they drag her from?

    You’d find things like her as head of a small public service department.
    The type that thinks it makes her the smartest sheila in the room.
    Horrendous, yet typical of the unattractive, hard , opinionated dunderheads that so dominate Australian womanhood.
    Not that the blokes are that much better to be honest.

    Is there honestly a more unattractive lot anywhere on earth, ( and I include myself, the typical fifty or so year old stocky, bikie, truckie looking bloke, although without tatts).

    You’d wonder why pregnancy ever occurred in this country until you live in the outback…………………………..

    Men will shag a black snake with a festered arse if someone held it’s head.

  119. cohenite

    I agree Jane has a nice sense of humour. But the preoccupations are those of women.

    Actually Jane is just about the toughest author in the language; toughest in the sense she believed that being wrong and immoral had consequences. That those consequences flowed from the choices of women distinguishes her view of femininity profoundly from that view of feminists which prevails today and which produces things like the Kavanaugh debacle and false rape claims and the general emasculation of Western culture.

    Austen, although narrow in her range, is simply the best novelist in the English language, not because of her nonpareil wit and psychological insight but for that reason. Her guiding principles of self-discipline, just consideration of others, knowledge of the heart and moral principles derived from parentage are as good a summary of the defects of Western society today as you’ll get.

    Plus her novels make great movies and series.

  120. struth

    Having someone you love suffer and being unable to do anything about it is a hellish thing.

    Let me fix this for you.

    Having someone suffer who blames you for it, and unable to do anything about it, is a hellish thing.

  121. Myrddin Seren

    One for John Constantine ( via Drudge )

    Kenyans Say Chinese Investment Brings Racism and Discrimination

    Other Kenyan workers explained how their office bathrooms were separated by race: one for Chinese employees, the other for Kenyans.

    As Rosa Parks famously found – where you are allowed to sit down shows you who is in charge and who isn’t.

  122. Dave in Marybrook

    Johannes Leak’s Meghan is atrocious.
    None of her almond face, straight nose, focused eyes- she’s apparently a knob-nosed thing, the colour of the patty from a Whopper. If she wasn’t next to a fairly good DoC, you’d never pick her. A case of drawing what he wanted to see maybe.
    Phelps is good though. I hope he won’t need to continue drawing her after Sunday.

  123. Shy Ted

    Of course ladies in advertising works. I bought a Mahindra. The ute, not the tractor. I think she’s wearing a Make India Great Again hat.

  124. struth

    Other Kenyan workers explained how their office bathrooms were separated by race: one for Chinese employees, the other for Kenyans.

    The Chinese ones were a hole in the ground and the Kenyan one was outside and lost it’s leaves in winter.

  125. Mother Lode

    Got a call and I missed the last half of Qanda blog.

    Infuriating, isn’t it? That these people don’t call 30 mins sooner? Then you might have missed the lot.

  126. struth

    Meghan is as black as a Tasmanian aboriginal.

  127. Hey Shy Ted.
    Is the Mahindra ute any good?
    One local Ag firm bought a few for employees. I might buy one for our man.

  128. I am bespoke

    JC
    #2839729, posted on October 15, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    Whatever happened with graphene?

    They have been selling Graphene batteries for at about two years.

  129. Siltstone

    Bill Thompson
    #2840297, posted on October 16, 2018 at 12:20 am
    US economist, Jeffrey Sachs, was on Q&A tonight, preaching to Aussies about global warming & how everyone must do their bit to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. … Everyone except him, apparently?

    You skewered him brilliantly Bill and exposed him as a dumbo.

  130. Mother Lode

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian.

    I believe the DNA comparison was also done against Mexican, Peruvian and Colombian DNA.

    Her claim has always been that she is Cherokee.

  131. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2840439, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:34 am
    I agree Jane has a nice sense of humour. But the preoccupations are those of women.

    Actually Jane is just about the toughest author in the language; toughest in the sense she believed that being wrong and immoral had consequences. That those consequences flowed from the choices of women distinguishes her view of femininity profoundly from that view of feminists which prevails today and which produces things like the Kavanaugh debacle and false rape claims and the general emasculation of Western culture.

    Austen, although narrow in her range, is simply the best novelist in the English language, not because of her nonpareil wit and psychological insight but for that reason. Her guiding principles of self-discipline, just consideration of others, knowledge of the heart and moral principles derived from parentage are as good a summary of the defects of Western society today as you’ll get.

    Plus her novels make great movies and series.

    You make a good case, Cohenite. I have to say that being the best novelist in the English language doesn’t seem to me a high standard. It’s still chicklit. But yes, she towers above contemporary writers for the reasons you give.

    I enjoy reading her, mainly because of a dry wit, and I agree her moral sense is refreshing.

    How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. Now we have Tim Winton, God help us all.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    Hey Shy Ted.
    Is the Mahindra ute any good?

    It’s got more Indian content than Elizabeth Warren.

  133. Death Giraffe

    It’s possible we are alone in this great galloping universe of billion of galaxies. That would make us very special indeed. Believing it was created just for us strikes me as rather conceited

    ..
    Uh.
    How small would the number of galaxies need to be for it not to be conceited?
    If you were a god what would you create? Just some distances and clouds of hydrogen and leave it at that? A nice view?
    No one to interact with it?
    What a prosaic diety you would be.

  134. Death Giraffe

    If you were a diety how much cosmos would you create for your humans to explore?
    Like a zoo?
    What? The real estate of creation has some limit?

  135. the aliens, if we meet them, won’t look much like us.

    Why would they bother?

  136. Mother Lode

    So she’s between 1.5% and 0.1% Amerindian. Yay!

    Is that enough to let her wear feathers in her hair without facing a charge of cultural appropriation?

    I don’t think so, but I suspect it is enough for her to wrap herself in a possum skin and charge me $200 to welcome me to Australia.

  137. DrBeauGan

    ..
    Uh.
    How small would the number of galaxies need to be for it not to be conceited?
    If you were a god what would you create? Just some distances and clouds of hydrogen and leave it at that? A nice view?
    No one to interact with it?
    What a prosaic diety you would be.

    I’d make a rotten deity, Death. I don’t have the imagination to invent sex, let alone life.

    But given that there is a wonderful universe, full of fascinating things, I propose to enjoy it. If you want to believe it was made by someone a bit like me but the helluva lot smarter, I can’t stop you. But it looks awfully unlikely to me.

  138. Tel

    Tom #2840379: Morten Morland (London Times).

    That’s harsh, but fair.

    Having said that, if Assad had not fought back hard, he’d be dead by now. Putin generally has taken the measured approach, he didn’t start trouble in Georgia, but he finished it. Putin also didn’t start trouble in Syria, but he’s helping finish it. Ukraine has been long festering, perhaps Putin could have done better there, it’s arguable. The Saudis have been improving but they still aren’t improved by very much.

  139. Diogenes

    Is that enough to let her wear feathers in her hair without facing a charge of cultural appropriation?

    Nope !

    “A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

    – Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr.

  140. Geriatric Mayfly

    PRINCE HAIRY BABY ON WAY…

    A typo at Drudge.

  141. Spider

    The utter wrong headedness of the three Libs who are calling for the release of children on Nauru.

    Don’t they realize that these children have parents? Are they going to leave the parents on Nauru? The moment this occurs parents with children queue here in Indonesia please.

  142. Mother Lode

    Another weird thing about Warren’s claims is that she was adamant that it was family lore.

    Given her Native American (more precisely South American) heritage is six to ten generations ago, that ‘lore’ has been passed down across all those generations. There would be no notion of how it happened, who, where – anything – otherwise she would know it.

    I have an idea about my grandfather, none about his grandfather, less than none about his. Unless one of these remote ancestors was particularly illustrious I would be unable to make any assertion about the last of these.

  143. DrBeauGan

    TRENDING:
    LIZ WARRENDONALD TRUMPHARVARD TRIALHARRY & MEGHANSAUDI ARABIAANTIFANFL ATTENDANCE
    Elizabeth Warren May Be No More Native American than Average White American
    Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat from Massachusetts, questions Richard Clarida, vice chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve nominee for U.S. President Donald Trump, not pictured, during a Senate Banking Committee confirmation hearing for in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Tuesday, May 15, 2018. Clarida told U.S. lawmakers he would support policies …Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images
    15 Oct 20186040
    2:40
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is touting a DNA test that shows she has, at most, 1/64 Native American ancestry, and possibly as little as 1/1024 — which means she may have no more Native American DNA than the average white American, and less than many other Americans.
    Even 1/64 — corresponding to one great-great-great-great grand parent — would not qualify Warren for membership in any Native American tribe, nor justify her claims to Native American identity.

    Moreover, as Breitbart News’ John Nolte noted Monday, “Percentage-wise, Warren can claim somewhere between 0.1 percent to 1.56 percent Native lineage.”

    Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., who studies the genetic ancestry of Americans, wrote in 2013 (citing Ancestry.com) that the average African-American genome is 2% Native American. In 2014, the genetics website 23andMe said the average black American genome is 0.8% Native American, while Latinos have 18% Native American ancestry, on average. Among white Americans, there is considerable variation: 8% of whites in Louisiana have at least 1% Native American ancestry, for example, according to 23andMe.

    The New York Times, citing the 23andMe data, reported: “The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”

    That falls within Warren’s reported range, and suggests she may be no more Native American than the average white American.

    Told you so.

  144. What are the odds of the universe creating a creature that ponders the existence and creation of the universe?

    Why is it so?

  145. DrBeauGan

    Tomi Lahren has given Warren her Indian name. Chief Spreading Bull.

  146. DrBeauGan

    What are the odds of the universe creating a creature that ponders the existence and creation of the universe?

    The probability is 1.0 because it’s happened.

  147. Armadillo

    Trump needs to get a DNA test. Once the result are known, subsequent trolling could be magnificent.

  148. I am bespoke

    The whole commercial DNA testing is just fodder for the grievance industry. That ad with the guy dumping his German friends for another tribe was cringe worthy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGew

  149. Armadillo

    I’m assuming Warren released the results herself? She didn’t really think this through, did she.

  150. Mak Siccar

    Peter Smith on fire at Quadrant Online.

    PETER SMITH

    Finding the Courage of our Convictions

    It is past time to bluntly confront leftist thought at every opportunity. Did being polite save Brett Kavanaugh from slanders that will adhere for the rest of his days? Reserve and good manners are the conservative way, but they are of no use when the enemy’s motto is ‘by any means necessary’

    antifa IILet me give them the benefit of the doubt. Many of those ordinary people on the left, with some of whom I share coffee, simply don’t notice what is happening. Their daily lives continue as before. The noxious strangulating weeds are growing but their growth is imperceptible to the naked eye. One day, shock, horror, up they’ll wake, and the pleasant garden will be no more.

    Academia, public broadcasting, most commercial broadcasting, most print media, most civil services are now in the clutches of left-wing fascists. The brouhaha over Justice Kavanaugh, however beyond disgraceful and disreputable, was useful for again bringing the fascism of the left out of the shadows where it furtively lurks, trying to hide.

    On full view for all to see: convicting Kavanaugh when all of the evidence, let me repeat, when all the evidence pointed to his innocence. Hammering and scratching on the door of the Supreme Court. Mercilessly haranguing poor old Senator Jeff Flake. Screaming in sequence during the Judicial Committee hearings. Harassing prominent Republicans at restaurants and outside their homes.

    Look at this on Twitter from a Georgetown University political scientist: “entitled white men justifying a serial rapist’s arrogated entitlements. All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminists laugh as they take their last gasps. Bonus: we castrate their corpses and feed them to swine? Yes.” Look at this tweet from a school teacher in Illinois: “So whose gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh?”

    Hillary Clinton said a few days ago that civility in America can only begin again if Democrats win back the House or Senate this fall. Until then? Well former attorney general Eric Holder and presidential hopeful set it out. “When they go low, we kick them.” What’s going low, you might ask? Disagreeing with the progressive agenda is the answer. Rapper Kanye West is the latest in the firing line. His crime? Supporting President Trump.

    As a black entertainer he has no business supporting Trump; and perhaps convincing lots of African Americans to do the same. If even 20% supported Republicans, bye-bye Dems. Now Mr West was somewhat demonstrative in the Oval Office but a lot of what he said was sensible. He was accused by any number of left fascist commentators of variously being a ventriloquist’s dummy for Trump; of carrying on a minstrel show; of being an embarrassment to African-Americans; of being a ‘token negro’; and so on into the gutter.

    Most sickeningly, because he has sought help in the past, a conga line of commentators parroted the obviously rehearsed Democrat party line of West needing mental health intervention. Now isn’t that just the tactic of would-be despots all over. When not being beaten with rubber truncheons and plied with castor oil, opponents are deemed to have psychiatric problems and carted away to asylums.

    Can you imagine conservatives ever acting in this manner? Yet leftist thuggery and rage is somehow brushed aside as being as inconsequential or, even, justified because somehow Trump is responsible for it. Left fascism has been metastasising in the West since the late Sixties, well before Trump, and will go on poisoning social and political life long after he has gone. The only question is where it will all end.

    What I have come to realise is that accommodation is not possible. Why is this? Listen carefully to what the left wants in specific terms. Can’t hear much? That’s right. Back to Hillary again. “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” she said. But what does she stand for and care about? She didn’t say. No surprise in that. She fought an election against Trump without this secret knowledge being dragged into the open.

    We know that leftists want power and the spoils of office. We know also, of course, that they are predisposed to giving away free stuff. That is par for the course and nothing to overstress about. But now they appear to have a sinister agenda that for good reason they are shy about revealing. There is still too much common sense abroad to sell it. It’s being played out most forcefully in the US, because where the US goes the rest of the free world will undoubtedly follow, willingly or not.

    This sinister agenda falls under the heading of globalisation; which is synonymous, ultimately, with communism. A state hangs together because of shared values and secure borders. Broadly speaking, a free and prosperous state depends upon traditional families interreacting morally and trustingly with everyone else regardless of their ethnicity, their skin colour or their affiliations. So how exactly do you go about destroying the inviolability of Western nation states.

    Take this for starters. Undermine due process and the rule of law; allow mobs to quash free speech; pit women against men (via affirmative action, #MeToo and so-called ‘toxic masculinity’); invalidate the primacy of the traditional family; devalue human life via unrestricted abortion; disparage Christianity; set ethnicities against ethnicities; and, the coup de grâce, open borders to all-comers. Do this and you are on your way. The hysteria about global warming is an added bonus. We are all in it together apparently, in order to defeat a global phantom.

    To echo Hillary, conservatives cannot in good faith find common ground with those who refuse to reveal their agenda or whose agenda would upend and destroy our way of life. It is time for incivility. Not the thuggish incivility of the left, I hasten to add. But an incivility that boldly confronts leftist thought at every opportunity. Which doesn’t back down. And which calls out cant and the kind of tactics used by those maligning Kavanaugh and deriding West.

  151. H B Bear

    Australia’s Grand Mufti has signalled open hostility to gay teachers in Islamic schools in defiance of Bill Shorten’s proposed changes to discrimination laws, saying they engage in “abnormal practices that contradict nature” and suffer from “mental illness”.

    This was never about the Catholics despite what the Anyone But Catholic staff co-op had to say, just ask Plibbers. Maybe Peanut Head can negotiate a compromise and have them thrown off medium tall buildings instead.

  152. DrBeauGan

    Armadillo
    #2840473, posted on October 16, 2018 at 9:31 am
    I’m assuming Warren released the results herself? She didn’t really think this through, did she.

    Thinking things through isn’t a democrat thing.

  153. Diogenes

    Another weird thing about Warren’s claims is that she was adamant that it was family lore.

    Even bigger question was that why THAT particular piece of lore was handed down, given the times and prejudices. This sort of lore is suppressed much like convict ancestry was until the 70s, when many that didn’t know, were then delighted to discover it through genealogical research(especially if 1st or 2nd fleeters) – there were some where the surname was a giveaway – one of friends at school denied being descended from the 1st Fleet Kable, but after finishing uni , proudly proclaimed same as attitudes had changed.

  154. Confused Old Misfit

    Now for something completely different but of possible use to posters here:
    Every British swear word has been officially ranked in order of offensiveness

  155. DrBeauGan

    Being proud of your ancestry is every bit as daft as being ashamed of it. You didn’t get to choose it.

  156. max

    saying they engage in “abnormal practices that contradict nature” and suffer from “mental illness”.

    Imagine the reaction if anyone else came out with this piece of truth to power.

  157. C.L.

    Trump trolled a woman into getting a DNA test.
    Hilarious.
    Not only that but Trump was right. Scientifically, she isn’t even remotely an “Indian.”
    Remember, she was employed at Harvard as a minority hire – as a “woman of colour.”

  158. DrBeauGan

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2840481, posted on October 16, 2018 at 9:43 am
    Now for something completely different but of possible use to posters here:
    Every British swear word has been officially ranked in order of offensiveness

    How nice to know.

    People are barking mad.

  159. Top Ender

    Any aliens coming here will likely possess either of two things:

    – the ability to cross interstellar space at realistic speeds: ie; at least 50% of lightspeed, given they’ll likely have to cross at least 50 lightyears of distance to get here, or

    – they have developed the ability to take advantage of the fact that space is curved, and therefore not cross linear distances.

    In either case, it would be great to take advantage of their superior understanding of technology.

  160. max

    This was never about the Catholics despite what the Anyone But Catholic staff co-op had to say

    Of course it was.

  161. H B Bear

    Meghan is as black as a Tasmanian aboriginal.

    That may be so but what if she throws a little sambo? Or worse a ranga?

  162. DrBeauGan

    Top Ender
    #2840486, posted on October 16, 2018 at 9:48 am
    Any aliens coming here will likely possess either of two things:

    – the ability to cross interstellar space at realistic speeds: ie; at least 50% of lightspeed, given they’ll likely have to cross at least 50 lightyears of distance to get here, or

    – they have developed the ability to take advantage of the fact that space is curved, and therefore not cross linear distances.

    In either case, it would be great to take advantage of their superior understanding of technology.

    The problem is that except for some quantum phenomena, moving in space-time is continuous. Which means that in order to get from A to B, you have to pass through a lot of other points you aren’t interested in.

  163. stackja

    DBG – indigenous need ancestry to get money.

  164. I am bespoke

    Yep DB Hanson maybe as dumb as a rock but she knows how to push the right button to get the predictable resalts.

  165. Myrddin Seren

    I’m assuming Warren released the results herself? She didn’t really think this through, did she.

    Trump’s broken another D-Rat.

    MSNBC anchor Craig Melvin mocked Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s claims to Native American ancestry on Monday, joking that he “might be just as Native American as she is.”

    “Did [Elizabeth Warren] gain anything by putting out the DNA test results?” Melvin asked. “The best I can gather, according to your paper’s reporting, she’s 1/1000th — something like that — I think I might be just as Native American as she is.”

    When you have lost MSNBC…..

    The point to make now is that she has about as much Amerindian DNA has half the people in North America, and probably as much as me ( father’s side were pioneers in the Ottawa Valley ).

    And yet – all The Donald has to do is hold up copies of ‘Pow Wow Chow’ at rallies and ask how much priority she was granted at U-Penn and Harvard for ticking the box that said ‘Native American’ ?

    FWIW – The Boston Globe claims she just ticked the box for shits-and-giggles and it meant nothing else. But of course they would say that.

    But it is a great lever for the GoP base on the issue of identity politics – and I can’t see masses of previously ambivalent voters marching to the polling booths in a display of solidarity with 1/1000th Fauxcahontas.

  166. C.L.

    The Cherokee Nation has issued a statement strongly condemning Warren.
    Minorities tend to be very hurt by sciencey definitions of identity.
    She really didn’t think this through.
    Absolutely owned by the Trumpet.

  167. cohenite

    Maybe Peanut Head can negotiate a compromise and have them thrown off medium tall buildings instead.

    And forgo the red hot poker up the khyber.

  168. C.L.

    Breaking: judge throws out Stormy Daniels defamation claim against Trump.
    What a double for Trump. He can’t stop the winning.
    But wait. It gets better: Trump’s lawyer is going after Daniels for costs!
    Ahahahahaha.

  169. Viva

    Believing it was created just for us strikes me as rather conceited. To the point of self-absorbed lunacy, actually.

    Ea.rth nonetheless boasts several features that make it “just right” for life as we know it:

    The right ingredients: A planet needs liquid water, an energy source and chemical building blocks like carbon, oxygen, hydrogen and nitrogen for the life forms we’re familiar with to thrive.

    The right crust: Gas giants and molten worlds need not apply. Luckily, Earth possesses the suitable distribution of elements to ensure a hot metallic core and a rocky mantle.

    The right temperature: The necessity for liquid water also means that planetary temperatures must permit the substance to retain its liquid form in some regions.

    The right moon: Our large moon ensures climate stability by minimizing changes in planetary tilt. If our planet didn’t have a tilt, it wouldn’t have seasons. Likewise, a severe tilt would result in extreme seasons.

    The right star: The sun provides Earth with the energy for life and is thankfully rather stable. Imagine baking a pot roast with an oven that might suddenly surge in temperature, die or explode. It wouldn’t work for your pot roast, and it certainly wouldn’t work for life.

    The right core: Earth’s solid inner core and liquid outer core play crucial roles in protecting life from deadly solar radiation. Differences in temperature and composition in the two core regions drive this powerful dynamo, emitting Earth’s protective electromagnetic field.

    The right neighbors: Jupiter shields Earth from constant stellar bombardment. Without the gas giant in the neighborhood, scientists predict that Earth would endure 10,000 times as. many asteroid and comet strikes.

    In short, Earth contains all the ingredients and environmental necessities for life to emerge, plus the relative safety for it to evolve unmolested for hundreds of millions of years on end.

  170. C.L.

    Cherokee Nation statement:

    “A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America,” Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskins Jr. Said. “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.”

    “Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven,” the statement said.

    The end of the statement torched Elizabeth Warren.

    “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

  171. cohenite

    In either case, it would be great to take advantage of their superior understanding of technology.

    They might be interstellar gourmets. Humans may be regarded as delicate spices and condiments.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2840494, posted on October 16, 2018 at 10:03 am

    The Cherokee Nation has issued a statement strongly condemning Warren.
    Minorities tend to be very hurt by sciencey definitions of identity.
    She really didn’t think this through.
    Absolutely owned by the Trumpet.

    The American Indians take a different approach than that taken by our own indigenes.
    A mere drop of blood, or “identifying as xxxxx” doesn’t cut it.
    Not only does the percentage of bloodline have to be relatively high (as noted upthread) but many groups wany to see a “continuous connection” to tradition.
    One of the big practical issues is that many tribes gave financially lucrative on reservation gaming licences.
    You really don’t want just anyone with high cheekbones and a tale of family folklore getting a slice of that action.

  173. C.L.

    Cormann has formally apologised for being white:

    Cormann sorry for ‘OK to be white’ blunder

    Mathias Cormann apologises for Coalition senators backing the Pauline Hanson motion, calling it an “administrative process failure”.

  174. Shy Ted

    Mahindra ute? Love it. The Indian guy I bought it from had put a lift kit, mags and all the outside scaffolding on. It’s fairly agricultural with a terrible turning circle but comfortable, very competent at everything it does including serious 4WD and bush tracks and for some strange reason I love driving it, feel like king of the road. It feels really tough and you just know if you come into contact with another vehicle there’s only going to be one winner. Mine is 10 now, 200k kms and all the important things like paint still great, drivers seat hasn’t sagged at all. Cheap as chips second hand. 2.5L diesel I think, 800kms on a 70L tank. Someone keyed it and it actually increased in value. I knew at the test drive, after having tested numerous other makes and models of similar age and price that this was the best of that particular bunch.

  175. Roger

    Australia’s Grand Mufti has signalled open hostility to gay teachers in Islamic schools…

    Get back to me when he signals open hostility to the Labor party.

  176. cohenite

    Cormann has formally apologised for being white:

    There it is; weak, traitorous bastards. I even saw cory prevaricating about supporting it last night. Hanson for guts and the rest of the spineless creeps nothing.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Proxima Centauri b is looking increasingly interesting.

    Closest exoplanet to Earth could be ‘highly habitable’ (Sep 13)

    The main issue seems to be that a red dwarf star like Proxima spits out very large flares quite often. Also 4.3 ly is a fair bit of a trip for current technology.

  178. C.L.

    ABC Online remembers this like it was a bad thing:

    Thirty-three years ago Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen ordered police raids on Queensland’s abortion clinics because terminating a pregnancy was illegal.

    Those laws have not changed for more than 100 years, but this week MPs will be asked to make abortion legal.
    In 1985 police burst through the doors of the Greenslopes Fertility Control Clinic — one of Queensland’s only abortion facilities.

    As officers rifled through documents, collecting patient files and interrogating workers, women ran from the clinic, while others arriving for termination appointments looked on in shock…

    That day, Sir Joh and his justice minister, Neville Harper, had ordered police to gather evidence wherever they could — including down sewer tunnels.

    Officers confiscated 20,000 confidential patient files, medical equipment, and even a foetus.

    Two of the facility’s doctors were arrested and charged with conspiracy to procure an illegal abortion and inflicting grievous bodily harm.

  179. Tiny dancer

    From The Hill

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Monday called out President Trump over his offer to pay $1 million if she could prove she had Native American heritage.

    Some people are dense.

  180. C.L.

    I like the Mahindra ute.
    Seems to me they’ve positioned themselves in the market space formally occupied by Land Cruiser.
    LCs were the greatest but they’ve now become massively expensive and poofy.

    Recently saw this on YouTube … bloke tries to start an old HJ45 with a B3 donk after EIGHT years in the rough. Man, those old Toyos …

  181. Shy Ted

    Every British swear word has been officially ranked in order of offensiveness. There’s a word for Gillard in every section. Ginger is the mild swear word. After that you’re spoiled for choice.

  182. Thanks Shy Ted.
    Might be an option as we’re not like tradies and usually drive utes to death, so resale value doesn’t matter much.
    Towing capacity might be a problem as we move heavy long trailers at harvest. It’s only when you hook up a load that you find out if the gearing and motor are up for the job.

  183. C.L.

    This is my dream truck. British resto, 1964 FJ45. Specs and other pics here.

  184. H B Bear

    Cormann has formally apologised for being white:

    When is he going to apologise for holding himself out as a Lieboral at the last election?

  185. Shy Ted

    Dear Matthias, it’s OK to be weak.

  186. John Constantine

    BIT biotron going for as hsrd run this morning.

    Almost foreign tip sheet territory.

    The HIV cleaning out from the bodies reservoir story has wings.

    The thirty grand i left behind for someone else on the table when i dumped the sort dated to expiry BITOA options last week is a queasy feeling, not compensated for by the full paids still sitting in the account.

    Biotechs, you need full health to trade these things.

  187. Diogenes

    John,
    once more in English please 😉

  188. This determination people have to force everything into boxes even when they plainly don’t fit has been obvious on the Çat, too. Like defining four cells as a human being. You’d think we’d know better. But for some people, language definitions are made not just to talk about the world but to bolster some theory about it. It’s a sort of highbrow bullshit.

    A coprophagic grin comes to you naturally, DrBeauGan, but as we’ve seen, that is all you have here. You’ve nowhere demonstrated that a zygote in its earliest stages is not a human being. You’ve repeated your assertion that four cells cannot be judged a human being but given no reason why? Is it simply numerically insufficient? Further, why do you ignore the fact that these four cells, only momentarily so as Gab reminded us earlier, are acting in an integrated manner typical of an individuated organism for its own benefit? Having equivocated on these points or ignored them entirely, you then took a brief and unconvincing sojourn in linguistic philosophy in the attempt to argue that language is simply insufficient to grasp the issue. You then retailed some puffery about processes, saying that the appearance of the child in utero is a continuous process that resists precise demarcation even though we can indeed precisely demarcate such a process, where it occurs, as well as the developmental stages of the child in utero; we can even take pictures of the child from conception onwards. Finally, when it became obvious to you that your arguments were desperately wanting, you finally presented the conceited claim that average Jo was just too stupid to understand that the child in utero from conception onwards was an individuated human being, even when the average Jo in the 1960s could easily understand that her use of thalidomide while pregnant in the first three months could have disastrous effects for her baby but not herself. And now your back to snide remarks and coprophagic grins.

    Sad.

  189. Bushkid

    Bill Thompson
    #2840297, posted on October 16, 2018 at 12:20 am
    US economist, Jeffrey Sachs, was on Q&A tonight, preaching to Aussies about global warming & how everyone must do their bit to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. … Everyone except him, apparently?

    https://youtu.be/TwY300bTeFg

    Well, that last question fvcked him, didn’t it!

    And he seemed to think it was OK for him to fly to Australia to accept an honorary doctorate, so he thought he’d pop along and do a stint on Q&A at the same time. (But the rest of us are going to have to eat insects and crawl around in the dirt!)

    What a pathetic poseur!

  190. H B Bear

    Nice work Bill. It won’t be long and the ALPBC will have to move the Southbank hive to a secret location.

  191. Bushkid

    Why the hell are we still supporting the Iran deal two years after it was effectively torn by Trump? And why were we stupid enougj to support Obama’s Iran deal in the first place?

    Because….. Turnbull

  192. DrBeauGan

    Believing it was created just for us strikes me as rather conceited. To the point of self-absorbed lunacy, actually.

    Ea.rth nonetheless boasts several features that make it “just right” for life as we know it:

    Of course it bloody does. That’s because we evolved here. You’ve got it arse-backwards. It isn’t that the earth was designed for us, it’s that we evolved to fit it.

    Somewhere there’s a world where a creature is explaining that the world he lives on is obviously designed for the creature life form because the volcanoes make up for the atmosphere freezing every other day.

  193. lotocoti

    Lol.
    I had always assumed that the brush in ‘a touch of tar brush’ was something more substantial than a 000 sable.

  194. Shy Ted

    Farmer Gez, a ute for your man and another Mahindra for your good self.

  195. stackja

    C.L. – Series 2 Land Rover?

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just in case you want to catch a squirrel and eat its brain, be warned.

    Man dies from extremely rare disease after eating squirrel brains

    A man in New York developed an extremely rare and fatal brain disorder after he ate squirrel brains, according to a new report of the man’s case.

    In 2015, the 61-year-old man was brought to a hospital in Rochester, New York, after experiencing a decline in his thinking abilities and losing touch with reality, the report said. The man had also lost the ability to walk on his own.

    Admittedly chasing lefty squirrels will cause you to lose touch with reality too.

  197. Top Ender

    Meanwhile in Victoriastan:

    Gang of youths bash Melbourne man, steal his car

    A gang of up to eight youths of African appearance bashed a Melbourne man in his own home, and then returned to steal his car while he was in hospital, police say.

    Police allege a 59-year-old man answered a knock on his door in Narre Warren overnight, when he was set upon by between six to eight youths.

    “When the victim opened the door, a group of six to eight men entered the home and assaulted the victim by kicking and punching him to the ribs and head,” a Victoria Police spokesman said.

    “The offenders ran through the house, stealing cash and the keys to the victim’s car, a 2006 red Holden Commodore with registration 1NY 7FY, before fleeing the scene.”

    Police believe that while the victim was in hospital being treated for his injuries, the group returned to his property to steal the Commodore they had left behind.

    The car was later seen in the Stonington area around 5.30am this morning.

    “The victim told investigators that the men were aged in their mid to late teens and perceived to be of African appearance,” Police said.

    Meanwhile, a woman in Dandenong is in hospital after she awoke to find three men holding a knife to her throat.

    “The woman was assaulted and threatened with a knife before the offenders demanded she hand over cash and jewellery,” Victoria Police said.

    The three men are said to be of African appearance, Maori appearance and Caucasian appearance respectively.

    “The victim was taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries. All three left on foot in an unknown direction,” a police spokeswoman said.

  198. Myrddin Seren

    Went looking for some results on that cycling race where the bloke with a woman’s name stole the gold.

    A bit hard to navigate through the website, but I think this is the race he won.

    If the times given in the race for first are his, he would have been smashed if he had competed in the same event for males.

    You can work out where this is all going.

  199. Boambee John

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2840481, posted on October 16, 2018 at 9:43 am
    Now for something completely different but of possible use to posters here:
    Every British swear word has been officially ranked in order of offensiveness

    LOL, Munter rates as “Medium” offensiveness!

  200. Roger

    …he seemed to think it was OK for him to fly to Australia to accept an honorary doctorate

    Did the university pay for his ticket?

    I presume so, since the main point of awarding honorary doctorates these days is to generate favourable publicity for the institution . If so they no doubt purchased a carbon offset with the ticket. I gather it’s mostly flyers on the public teat who purchase these, since Virgin, for example, reports a very low uptake among their customers generally.

    Easy to virtue signal when you’re spending other people’s money!

  201. stackja

    BON – many rare diseases originate from animals?

  202. Bushkid

    Thanks for the ‘toons Tom, another great roundup.
    Mike Lester is particularly on the money today.

  203. I am bespoke

    dover_beach

    Finding ways to counter the growing death cult has a chance of saving more babies then trying to ban abortion. So None’s strategy of demonizing those who recognize this reality is counter productive. All the other stuff is just noise.

  204. cohenite

    Bill Thompson
    #2840297, posted on October 16, 2018 at 12:20 am
    US economist, Jeffrey Sachs, was on Q&A tonight, preaching to Aussies about global warming & how everyone must do their bit to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. … Everyone except him, apparently?

    https://youtu.be/TwY300bTeFg

    Bill does good work.

  205. Top Ender

    Strongly put:

    …when she was asked on CBS Sunday yesterday if she thought what Bill, who was 49 at the time, did to Monica constituted an ‘abuse of power’, Hillary was emphatic: No. No.’

    Her reason? Because Monica ‘was an adult.’

    She was equally empathetic when she was asked if Bill, as New York Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand recently suggested, should have resigned over the scandal: ‘Absolutely not.’

    Flustered Hillary then tried to deflect the conversation back to Trump, saying: ‘But let me ask you this: where’s the investigation of the current President of whom numerous allegations have been made and which he dismisses, denies and ridicules?’

    To his credit, the interviewer, Tony Dokoupil, persisted in holding Hillary’s feet to the flames – asking her what role she had played in criticizing the character of the women who accused her husband of sexual assault.

    ‘None,’ she replied. ‘No role. I take responsibility for my life and my actions.’

    This last assertion was a blatant lie: Hillary infamously called Gennifer Flowers ‘trailer trash’ and ‘some failed cabaret singer’, and Monica ‘a narcissistic loony toon.’

  206. Bushkid

    Peter Campion
    #2840417, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:39 am
    Sky reporting on “soft flooring in cattle yards” – how long before it’s “required” in paddocks, too?

    Anything to force us all to be vegynsys for Gaia…

    Perhaps those advocating this can be tasked with cleaning out the sale yards after each sale of well-fed bovines. That might change their minds a little. Or perhaps they might like to consider the hygiene implications of dairy cows standing in their own shit and walking it into the milking bails.

    Why is it that every advance that’s been made in animal husbandry and improvement of production or hygiene in agriculture is getting bent towards impracticality just to satisfy a tiny cohort of ignorant do-gooders bereft of the ability to think laterally or intelligently?

  207. Myrddin Seren

    Benny Johnson lays out ‘every time Elizabeth Warren has lied’ about her heritage in EPIC thread

    Fauxcahontas appears to be a compulsive liar.

    On the basis, it seems she and Killary will go head-to-head for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

  208. Mother Lode

    Man dies from extremely rare disease after eating squirrel brains

    WTF!

    It is like the whole natural world is in revolt.

    If you can’t even eat squirrel brains now…

  209. Bushkid

    Cormann has formally apologised for being white:

    Cormann sorry for ‘OK to be white’ blunder

    Mathias Cormann apologises for Coalition senators backing the Pauline Hanson motion, calling it an “administrative process failure”.

    If Cormann thinks it’s a blunder to have supported the motion that it’s OK to be “white”, then he’s another one that should lose his cushy red leather seat. Not worth the money.
    Just who do these anti-white politicians think they’re pleasing with this nonsense?
    That they’re “white” themselves makes it even more remarkable!

    If they think it’s not OK to say it’s OK to be white, are they saying it’s not OK to actually be white?
    Fvck the lot of them!

  210. Top Ender

    Have a mate who while sensible and not a leftie does not like Trump at all.

    He’s just bet me a $50 bottle of red that Trump does not make a second term.

  211. DrBeauGan

    A coprophagic grin comes to you naturally, DrBeauGan

    I don’t know why you call me coprophagous, DB. You’re the one who swallows bullshit by the bucket load.

  212. Myrddin Seren

    Man dies from extremely rare disease after eating squirrel brains

    WTF!

    It is like the whole natural world is in revolt.

    If he reanimates as a large rodent with a taste for human flesh – it’s all over.

  213. stackja

    Sussex visit SOH. Outrage?

  214. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Cormann sorry for ‘OK to be white’ blunder

    uniparty in action

  215. Eyrie

    “Jupiter shields Earth from constant stellar bombardment. Without the gas giant in the neighborhood, scientists predict that Earth would endure 10,000 times as. many asteroid and comet strikes.”
    So mighty Jupiter is our shield and guardian for the inner Solar system. Cool.
    Someone once remarked that the Solar system consists of Jupiter plus debris.

  216. Shy Ted

    My first Mahindra was the Stockman, bought more or less accidentally and a vehicle so completely awful it was brilliant. Love of my life for 4 years. I want to live in India where I could have a Thar because

  217. Myrddin Seren

    He’s just bet me a $50 bottle of red that Trump does not make a second term.

    Is that an open bet or premised on impeachment alone ?

    The Donald being assassinated I would rank as an escalating risk as the Left descend deeper in to madness and ramp up the calls to violence.

  218. Atoms for Peace

    I wonder if support squirrels are still on the trendy must have list ?

  219. Boambee John

    Bushkid
    #2840530, posted on October 16, 2018 at 10:47 am
    Why the hell are we still supporting the Iran deal two years after it was effectively torn by Trump? And why were we stupid enougj to support Obama’s Iran deal in the first place?

    Because….. Turnbull

    I suspect that the latest IPCC report, which clearly targetted Australia on coal and coral, was written in the expectation that Turnbull would still be PM when it was issued, and would move quickly to implement it.

  220. Mother Lode

    So, regarding story of Warren’s about her parents being forced to elope due to the prejudice of her paternal grandparents – what a weasel, accusing them of something that they almost certainly couldn’t have.

    Is there any record of her mother claiming Cherokee ancestry? I know Warren says she did, but that doesn’t really mean much.

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