Monday Forum: October 15, 2018

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  1. Tom

    Justin Langer says the green top in Abu Dhabi looks like a day one pitch at the Gabba. Pakis win another toss and decide to bat. Six wickets before lunch would be fun.

  2. Anyone seen or heard from Monty?

    Ssh. Never disturb your enemy …

    If he had a staph infection, he may be on the wrong side of the grass.

  3. Top Ender

    can any Cats who can access The Australian tell me why 4 times I have tried to post this but it just disappears

    Tried to post it myself but it went into the spam-a-lot folder.

    Dunno why. Did not appear to contain any of the Words of Power.

  4. John of Mel

    Speaking of vegans.

    There is a video doing rounds about Carrum Meatworks abattoir’s halal slaughter practices. I’m sure you’ll see people sharing it on your social media.
    At the end of the video there are links to all things vegan of course. Not a word about this being a Muslim approved practice.

    I’m thinking, is it a coincidence that IPCC report promoting (prescribing?) vegetarianism just came out a few days ago and now this?

  5. Bushkid

    You’ll go far Bushkid. You have worked out that these are not mutually exclusive categories.

    Haha, I’ve had an inkling about that for a while None. About both your points, actually. 😉

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    There might be some merit in Si-leach process for some deposits.

    Rob – Sileach is a sulfuric acid atmospheric leach. (I might have some small experience in that field. 😀 ) So the key is acid consumption per tonne of lithium. Because most spodumene ores only have about 1% Li it means that if you can upgrade to 6% Li by flotation you have cut your acid consumption by 84%. Massive capital and operating cost advantage. Well worth the cost of the float reagent, which can be expensive for oxide-active reagents.

    So when the lithium market goes into surplus the price will collapse and only those operators with low cost structure will survive. Which means spodumene guys with flotation.

    ( I mention 6% Li because from memory that is the grade an ASX lithium miner is getting in their float plant – they shipped their first batch of con to China this month I think, but I can’t recall their name. I’m not giving them a plug: my view is the whole Li industry is about to get a hammer land on it.)

  7. .

    Bruce

    May have asked before, but what about LiFePO4 batteries?

    I think they have the potential to take over from lead-acid.

    Whack 5-6 plates in to get 13.4 V required net of internal resistance.

  8. Tom

    Mitchell Starc wicket. 5-1.

  9. Speedbox

    As a resident of that God forsaken Hell Hole…..

    I was born and educated in SA and was a resident for a number of years. I have visited periodically (I have a soft spot for Pt Elliot) but I always ‘marvel’ at the lack of progress/change. Seriously, its like time stands still. And SA’s continued love affair (until recently) with Labor governments. Election after election. Admittedly, the Lib opposition was piss weak and a gerrymander didn’t help but jeezus people, get a grip.

    For countless years there was the joke about young people clutching their new University degree in one hand and their suitcase in the other as they ran to the airport. Somewhere, anywhere!

    I didn’t know you were in Adelaide. Explains a lot. Get out asap.

  10. Gab:

    Anyone seen or heard from Monty?

    Yes, he’s in the Darlinghurst STI clinic getting an arse transplant.
    The donor is Danny la Rue.
    (Yes – he’s been dead for yonks but his organ is still in superior condition to Montys own.)

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pow Wow Chow.

    It’s on Amazon.
    The reviews are hilarious.

  12. JC

    Elizabeth Warren’s DNA release proves it: she’s running for president
    Pundits say the senator’s revelation of her ancestry – a rebuke to Trump – is a sure sign of her 2020 plans

    And the Wall Street Journal asks:

    Did Elizabeth Warren Just Kill Identity Politics?

  13. egg_

    Anyone seen or heard from Monty?

    He accepted a dinner invitation from Grig’s mother?

  14. I am bespoke

    I’m starting to use Lithium-ion instead of Lithium-Polymer in my fixed wing drones. Safer and more stable power loss.

  15. None:

    I have also told all my pallbearers that if they vote green, oh shut up with a vegan or drive anything less than an 8 cylinder monster that spits out whole blocks of charcoal, they will be the rest of any inheritance.

    None, you may have some disability that means you have to use voice recognition software, but I cannot think of any disability that precludes one from proofreading.
    Apart from sheer bloody laziness.

  16. bundyrum

    My packet of ciggies says “Smoking Harms Unborn Babies” nothing about 4 cells or a foetus.
    I am against abortion too, just for the record.

  17. jupes

    Who’s the good looking bloke in the back row?

    Ricardo Bosi?

  18. Delta A

    Makka
    #2840855, posted on October 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    Brilliant, Makka! 🙂

    (Sure you’re not POTUS speechwriter?)

  19. H B Bear

    Did Elizabeth Warren Just Kill Identity Politics?

    Scalped it.

  20. Herodotus

    He accepted a dinner invitation from Grig’s mother?
    It was a somewhat garbled message that came back. Could have been “he went down there with a bottle of nice red”, or “he went down nicely with a bottle of red”.

  21. min

    This is the third time I have posted this so not sure if Cats forget or do not read posts. Talking with a senior liberal politician last week I suggested that converative voters would not return until Paris scrapped. He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll) and it would be electoral suicide if they pulled out. Seeing climate change is high on issues in Wentworth no wonder PM not doing anything now . So what would the smart a###s do in his position.
    However if you had read the Paris Agreement you would have read the out clause which happens on the 12th December. What he does then will be telling.

  22. Mark from Melbourne

    Mitchell Starc wicket. 5-1.

    Possibly the luckiest close-in catch in a couple of decades.

  23. H B Bear

    You can grow grass in the desert? Who knew.

  24. C.L.

    Anyone seen or heard from Monty?

    He was last seen entering the Saudi embassy.

  25. OldOzzie

    We’re All Native Americans Now
    Elizabeth Warren demonstrates the folly of identity politics.

    By The Editorial Board – WSJ

    Any doubt that Elizabeth Warren plans to run for President ended Monday when the Massachusetts Senator released a DNA analysis indicating that she probably does have some trace of distant Native American ancestry.

    The former Harvard professor went so far as to unveil a website and video featuring an analysis by Stanford professor Carlos Bustamante, who said that while Ms. Warren is mainly European she likely has some Native American ancestry “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.”

    This makes her between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American, which barely spares her the humiliation of not having any after she had listed herself as Native American on federal forms filed by Harvard and Penn law schools where she had worked. On the other hand, she also looks silly for making so much of so little. As Americans are learning as the costs of genetic testing fall, nearly all of us have multiple ethnic and racial backgrounds. Ms. Warren tried to make an identity politics virtue of a genetic banality.

    Credit on this point goes to Donald Trump, who mocked Ms. Warren’s genetic boast and no doubt prompted her to get the truth out before the 2020 campaign begins. Ms. Warren now says Mr. Trump should make good on his boast to write a $1 million check to charity if Ms. Warren proved she had Native American blood.

    Write the check, Donald. You’ll look gracious, and you’ll have an amusing talking point and photograph that will last the entire 2020 campaign.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Barry Urban appears in court to face fraud charges after early no-show
    Elle FarcicPerthNow
    October 16, 2018 9:50AM
    Topics
    State Politics
    Perth
    WA News

    FORMER Labor MP and police officer Barry Urban has appeared in court charged with 12 counts of fraud.

    The 49-year-old who was forced to quit politics this year amid a fake medal scandal, was charged after an investigation that followed a series of stories in the media.

    He is accused of five counts of giving false evidence before a parliamentary committee, five counts of uttering a forged document, one count of attempted fraud and one count of forging a record.

    The charges were read to Mr Urban when he appeared in Perth Magistrate’s Court today but he was not required to enter a plea.

    Seven of the charges relate to information Mr Urban allegedly provided in applications to join the WA Police before he was accepted into the force in 2005.

    Maximum tariff seven years.

  27. Makka

    He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll)

    Forget the polls. Again we see confirmation that the Jellyback Libs have no conviction at all, save staying at the trough.

    Vote Liberal, we aren’t Labor!

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    May have asked before, but what about LiFePO4 batteries?

    Dot – I don’t see them taking over from lead acid batteries anytime soon. Likely the Li price will be high and the Pb price relatively low for some decades yet. Lead is very forgiving compared to lithium, and lead acid batteries are easy to make (we had a pilot grid caster in our R&D lab in the ’90s, although that wasn’t my area). As I recall lead acid has nice high immediate discharge characteristics, which suits starter motors. A car or truck Cat may know more than I of such things, I just make the metal.

    The issue with LiFePO4 is the energy density is about 10% lower than LiCoO2. So you need 11% more mass of batteries for the same mileage. Which, when the battery weighs hundreds of kilos, adds up. Elon chose LiCoO2 because he has been aiming for as long an endurance as he can get in his Teslas. But the Chinese have been using LiFePO4 because they’re very attuned to costs. No cobalt means a lot less cost.

    However most of their LiFePO4 use seems to be going into buses and whatnot. And that is driven by pollution reduction not global warming.

    The other aspect regarding lead-acid vs LiFePO4 is that lead-acid batteries are easy to recycle. Over 80% of lead metal on the LME is from recycled batteries. It’s a simple smelting process – mash up the battery, screen out the plastic bits and melt the rest under soda carb in a reverb furnace with some ebil coke. Pour out the metal into moulds and sell it again.

    By contrast extracting the Li from LiFePO4 batteries would be much costlier – it would be a messy wet acid leach process with lots of waste.

  29. egg_

    VW CEO was a pussy who destroyed tens of billions in shareholder value. The cars passed the test which is what they were required to do. What do you expect the engineers to do?

    I’d gladly buy a used one the that some pussy let go cheap ’cause of Greenies policy; probably goes like a rocket – the 1.6L diesel manual Caddy had peak torque from 1700 rpm (and was made in Czechoslovakia)!

  30. Gab

    I’m just a tad worried about Monty. I don’t know how much more losing he can take

  31. None

    For countless years there was the joke about young people clutching their new University degree in one hand and their suitcase in the other as they ran to the airport. Somewhere, anywhere!

    That’s not a joke it’s a way of life. I didn’t even wait to finish my first university degree before I ran away overseas. I only stay here now in order to help others escape. 😉

  32. egg_

    “he went down nicely with a bottle of red”

    Those who go down, never come back up?

  33. None

    I can guarantee you that no one but no one not even the biggest Gaia worshiper wakes up in the morning saying oh my god I wish I had me some climate change action today.

  34. Mark from Melbourne

    Not for a moment claiming this as original (I think I saw it via Insty), but it deserves a wider airing…

    With Stormy Daniels having to pay Trump’s costs, is this the first ever instance of the hooker paying the pollie?

  35. None

    Monty should be alright Gab. After all, losing is his way of life.

  36. None

    Trump should not write the check given that Pocahontas has got about as much Native American blood as I have.

  37. Leigh Lowe

    Credit on this point goes to Donald Trump, who mocked Ms. Warren’s genetic boast and no doubt prompted her to get the truth out before the 2020 campaign begins. Ms. Warren now says Mr. Trump should make good on his boast to write a $1 million check to charity if Ms. Warren proved she had Native American blood.

    Write the check, Donald. You’ll look gracious, and you’ll have an amusing talking point and photograph that will last the entire 2020 campaign.

    Should he cut the cheque for $15,625 (1/64 of $1 meg) or for $976 (1/1024 of $1 meg)?

  38. Delta A

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2840874, posted on October 16, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    I found that very sad.

    As well as the obvious physical disability, RGB displays behaviours associated with dementia – not the least being her inability to discern people laughing at her.

    And that in itself was telling: a lefty audience laughing at a lefty justice of SCOTUS.

    Let the poor old thing retire gracefully.

  39. Myrddin Seren

    He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll) and it would be electoral suicide if they pulled out.

    What happened to Liberal Party pollster Mark Textor ?

    min – either this dumb arse was lying to you or the Libs are so broke they are relying on plainly biased Lowy Institute push polling.

    “..no matter the cost….”

    Bullshit.

  40. egg_

    losing is his way of life.

    M0nster is a rake slut.

  41. None

    Taxis busy grand chickens on his farm.

  42. .

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2840873, posted on October 16, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Pow Wow Chow.

    It’s on Amazon.
    The reviews are hilarious.

    You’re not wrong!

    Rikkor
    5.0 out of 5 starsWorth it to make fun of Fauxcahontas Warren
    June 28, 2012
    Format: Plastic CombVerified Purchase
    This is a typical church or garden club cookbook, except that it has an Oklahoma Indian tie-in. Some of the recipes are interesting, but a lot of cream of mushroom soup is employed. And, it seems that Indians really liked caviar. Well, anyway. I mostly purchased it because of its contributor, Elizabeth “Fauxcahontas” Warren. I would like her to sign my copy, but she would most likely figure out that I was goofing on her.
    20 people found this helpful
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    John Courtade
    5.0 out of 5 starsraves from fellow faculty members
    May 15, 2012
    Format: Paperback
    I’ve received nothing but rave reviews from my colleagues after whipping up treats from this cookbook in the faculty lounge kitchen. Admirers of Pow Wow Chow may also enjoy Bow Wow Chow, a Indonesian-influenced cookbook from a former professor now in politics.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    I’d gladly buy a used one the that some pussy let go cheap ’cause of Greenies policy; probably goes like a rocket –

    My turbo diesel goes like shit off a shanghai just where you need it … from 80 to 125 in the passing lane.
    Apparently the “fix” won’t effect fuel economy or performance.
    Yeah, right.
    I keep forgetting to take it in for the software change.

  44. Rae

    And the Wall Street Journal asks:

    Did Elizabeth Warren Just Kill Identity Politics?

    The WSJ? Wouldn’t have expected it as a go to source for you.

    But, thanks. All is now clear. The 3 older brothers all have the high cheekbones. And her female cousin is a member of Cherokee Nation. The DNA results are the icing on the cake. The PGiC should just ante up the $1M.

  45. None

    Taxis busy grand chickens on his farm.

    = Tex is busy growing chickens on his farm.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently you could get 1/1024 DNA result from having Sitting Bull’s bathwater splashed on you.

  47. C.L.

    Just why?
    Why on earth is a Digger in ceremonial service uniform shadowing Harry today?

  48. Roger

    He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll)

    I believe the figure was 59%.

    You can’t tell me 9%+ couldn’t be swayed with some facts, Perhaps pollsters could also ask whether people would be prepared for their electricity bills to double…again.

    Next time you’re chatting to him mention the polls on population growth and Muslim immigration, min.

  49. None

    M0nster is a rake slut.

    Did M0nty spur your advances, egg? Or did you have a crying game moment?

  50. None

    I’m wondering if the lady in the grey check jacket has got her hand on a handgun. She’s blocked by a few women who don’t look like ladies in waiting.

  51. min:

    Talking with a senior liberal politician last week I suggested that converative voters would not return until Paris scrapped. He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll) and it would be electoral suicide if they pulled out.

    Stupid, gutless, dimwit, coward, Libs.
    Enjoy the Brick Wall of Reality heading toward you at near lightspeed, morons.

  52. None

    Oh that’s the baby UGG boot holder, C.L. Let him be. He’s probably the token gay and he’s having the ride of his life.

  53. Rae

    Apparently you could get 1/1024 DNA result from having Sitting Bull’s bathwater splashed on you.

    As a Sioux maybe. Not as a Cherokee.

  54. Damienski

    Maximum tariff seven years.

    Suspended sentence. Good behaviour bond. Tops.

  55. None;

    Taxis busy grand chickens on his farm.

    Shit, you’re irritating.

  56. Delta A

    Here he is again.

    As is the woman on the left in the green blouse. She’s possibly on the launch, too, partially hidden behind the flag.

  57. Eyrie

    BoN, best LiFePo4 cells I can find are about 130 W-h/kg. Best LiCoO2 currently buyable are 230 W-h/Kg.
    The LiFePo4 are good for high discharge rates and fast charge without damage. They also do not need the extensive Protection/Damage containment circuitry and physical barriers that LiCoO2 need which erodes the advantage LiCoO2 has. Most serious large scale LiCoO2 packs in cars and the odd aircraft (see Antares motorglider) have a microprocessor looking after each small number of cells and these are networked and include a phone chip so that the pack can report to mama what is happening with it. Not ready for prime time IMO.
    4 cells of LiFePO4 are all you need to replace a 12 volt lead acid battery.

  58. pete m

    CL
    Re koala – the protocol is the royals request certain things and we provide it.

    I’m sure Meghan wanted it.

    As for the soldier it is part of the large connection betweenroyals and services. Most gg functions have service personnel around.

    Why get all hot about it?

  59. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m just a tad worried about Monty.

    Me too. A bacterial infection is no joke, especially with MRSA rife in hospitals.
    Worth a prayer for him and family.

  60. Speedbox

    My daughter has one of those ‘offending’ VW’s with a 2.0L turbo diesel. Good car, ultra reliable and surprisingly quick. Perhaps the fix won’t change the performance but not in a hurry to find out.

  61. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just why?
    Why on earth is a Digger in ceremonial service uniform shadowing Harry today?

    I’m a bit rusty on these matters, but I think the lanyard thingo on his right shoulder shows he’s an aide de camp to the Royal Family.

  62. OldOzzie

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison signals willingness to bend on asylum seekers

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is open to a back-down on yet another policy principle by allowing the refugees on Nauru to be relocated to New Zealand on the proviso they never come to Australia.

    With Coalition backbenchers starting to agitate over the plight of the almost 700 people languishing on Nauru, Mr Morrison indicated that if the Senate passes a bill forbidding the people from ever coming to Australia, the government will consider shifting them to NZ.

    “There is a bill still sitting in the Senate from 2016 that would close the back door from New Zealand to Australia which is opposed by the Labor Party and the Greens and the crossbench senators which is preventing that protection being put in place. Now I would urge them to reconsider their position on that,” Mr Morrison said.

    Later in the day, the Prime Minister’s office said that if the legislation passed, the government would consider sending the refugees to New Zealand.

    Labor, the Greens and Senate crossbenchers have so far refused to pass the legislation. Labor supports sending the refugees to New Zealand while the Greens support letting them into Australia.

    A Labor spokesman said Labor had no problems with restrictions, but the bill was too extreme.

    For example, if a refugee sent to New Zealand became a distinguished academic and 35 years later wanted to visit Australia for a two-day conference, they would be forbidden from doing so, he said. Labor believes the NZ government, which has offered the refugees sanctuary, could issue them visas with more realistic travel restrictions.

    Until now the government has been hostile to the idea of resettling refugees and other asylum seekers in New Zealand, believing that would be the same as allowing them into Australia and would lead to a resumption of the people-smuggling trade.

    But with 640 people languishing on Manus Island in addition to those on Nauru, external pressure is mounting, especially over the plight of the children, and the Coalition backbench has started to crack.

    On Tuesday, the Herald Sun revealed that Victorian Liberal MPs Julia Banks and Russell Broadbent, as well as NSW moderate Craig Laundy, met Mr Morrison last month urging all children and their families be brought to Australia, with priority given to the children needing medical treatment.

    They would then be resettled in a third nation. It is understood support for action is broader than the three MPs.

    The MPs have been influenced by the opinions of doctors. On Monday, a letter signed by almost 6000 doctors was presented to the government.

    Australian Medical Association paediatric representative Dr Paul Bauert called the current situation on the island “unconscionable”.

    “This is the only situation I’ve come across where it is deliberate government policy which is causing the pain and suffering of these children,” Dr Bauert said.

    Last month, Mr Morrison, who as immigration minister stopped the boats, rebuffed the doctors.

    “I will not put at risk any element of Australia’s border protection policy,” he said.

  63. C.L.

    I’m not “hot” about it, Pete.
    It’s just stupid to have a Digger in full ceremonial uniform traipsing around behind Prince Harry like a butler. It’s also insulting. There are no connections between Harry and any Australian military unit.

  64. OldOzzie

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison signals willingness to bend on asylum seekers

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is open to a back-down on yet another policy principle by allowing the refugees on Nauru to be relocated to New Zealand on the proviso they never come to Australia.

    With Coalition backbenchers starting to agitate over the plight of the almost 700 people languishing on Nauru, Mr Morrison indicated that if the Senate passes a bill forbidding the people from ever coming to Australia, the government will consider shifting them to NZ.

    “There is a bill still sitting in the Senate from 2016 that would close the back door from New Zealand to Australia which is opposed by the Labor Party and the Greens and the crossbench senators which is preventing that protection being put in place. Now I would urge them to reconsider their position on that,” Mr Morrison said.

    Later in the day, the Prime Minister’s office said that if the legislation passed, the government would consider sending the refugees to New Zealand.

    Labor, the Greens and Senate crossbenchers have so far refused to pass the legislation. Labor supports sending the refugees to New Zealand while the Greens support letting them into Australia.

    A Labor spokesman said Labor had no problems with restrictions, but the bill was too extreme.

    For example, if a refugee sent to New Zealand became a distinguished academic and 35 years later wanted to visit Australia for a two-day conference, they would be forbidden from doing so, he said. Labor believes the NZ government, which has offered the refugees sanctuary, could issue them visas with more realistic travel restrictions.

    Until now the government has been hostile to the idea of resettling refugees and other asylum seekers in New Zealand, believing that would be the same as allowing them into Australia and would lead to a resumption of the people-smuggling trade.

    But with 640 people languishing on Manus Island in addition to those on Nauru, external pressure is mounting, especially over the plight of the children, and the Coalition backbench has started to crack.

    On Tuesday, the Herald Sun revealed that Victorian Liberal MPs Julia Banks and Russell Broadbent, as well as NSW moderate Craig Laundy, met Mr Morrison last month urging all children and their families be brought to Australia, with priority given to the children needing medical treatment.

    They would then be resettled in a third nation. It is understood support for action is broader than the three MPs.

    The MPs have been influenced by the opinions of doctors. On Monday, a letter signed by almost 6000 doctors was presented to the government.

    Australian Medical Association paediatric representative Dr Paul Bauert called the current situation on the island “unconscionable”.

    “This is the only situation I’ve come across where it is deliberate government policy which is causing the pain and suffering of these children,” Dr Bauert said.

    Last month, Mr Morrison, who as immigration minister stopped the boats, rebuffed the doctors.

    “I will not put at risk any element of Australia’s border protection policy,” he said.

  65. None

    Sorry Winston, I corrected it. And yes I confess I don’t give my undivided attention to this blog, I just throw in comments. Feel free to scroll.

  66. OldOzzie

    Sorry sbout the double post above – the disappearing into oblivion and not posting by what ever is checking posts is damn frustrating

  67. Peter Castieau

    I am bespoke
    #2840833, posted on October 16, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Peter Castieau

    Can you address peoples concerns about AC’s website being to naggy for money and not being able to use PayPal?

    I’ll email HQ and see if something can be done re Pay pal

  68. None

    C.L. unless have changed recently our servicemen and women swear to protect the Queen and resist her enemies. One of the guys here could probably tell you the words of the Oath.

  69. jupes

    He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll) and it would be electoral suicide if they pulled out.

    Where is the clown’s bullshit detector? Even if true, they only believe it because rational politicians are too lazy and gutless to explain the truth to them.

    The Liberals must be utterly destroyed.

  70. Old Ozzie:

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is open to a back-down on yet another policy principle by allowing the refugees on Nauru to be relocated to New Zealand on the proviso they never come to Australia.

    Good one Scott.
    You know that when you back down to children if they chuck the toys out of the cot, it only encourages them?

  71. I am bespoke

    Peter Castieau

    Cheers

  72. Atoms for Peace.

    Let’s not forget that the DNA control was not based on North American indigenes.

  73. Peter Castieau

    There is a link on the site regarding Pay Pal. Are you saying it doesn’t work?

  74. Roger

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison signals willingness to bend on asylum seekers

    At this rate we might as well have Bill Shorten and be done with it.

  75. Atoms for Peace.

    The illegal boats should be making more money smuggling tobacco.

  76. Delta A

    Woohoo!

    33 likes* in the comments on the Overington article in The $Oz, which worries what Harry and Megs must think of us voting ( not quite) that it’s OK to be white.

    Caroline has received a well-earned slap down for her stupid puff piece. (I’ll post it if you like… or if you annoy me too severely.)

    *PB likes =84.

  77. None:

    And yes I confess I don’t give my undivided attention to this blog, I just throw in comments. Feel free to scroll.

    The issue is laziness in communication. The odd mistake is fine, but with you, it’s that your posts become increasingly unintelligible as the day goes on.
    If you have something to say and it’s worthwhile, put it in English, not Scribble.

  78. Senile Old Guy

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is open to a back-down on yet another policy principle by allowing the refugees on Nauru to be relocated to New Zealand on the proviso they never come to Australia.

    And so the backsliding begins. The LNP is indistinguishable from the ALP. Morrison is worse than Lord Waffle. Why bother?

  79. struth

    However if you had read the Paris Agreement you would have read the out clause which happens on the 12th December. What he does then will be telling.

    FMD.

    Still living in hope.

    He hasn’t done a thing about immigration.
    He hasn’t done a thing about power and he won’t.

    Please people, now is not the time for wishful appeasement.
    War on the UNiparties , now.

    Next thing you’ll be telling me, he will order the Australian embassy to be moved to Jerusalem after the bi election.

    The guy is a Liberal wet, the leader of a party chockas full of UN abiding socialists.

    He is the Prime Minister, not the King.
    Even if Slo Mo came good , in some miraculous fashion, it’s his party, the people in the party that are the real problem.

    There is no winning for us with this government from this party.
    Check out the leaking and demands for the realise of illegals FROM HIS OWN PARTY.

    I should have thought that was plainly, and painfully obvious by now.

  80. Norman Church

    To my observation, a great many of the punters do believe in “climate change” because they have been steeped in it for more than twenty years and don’t have the robustness needed to question received wisdom.

    This is where framing the question is so important.

    The true question is whether Australia should continue to take steps that will make its electricity the most expensive in the world when, on any view, these are simply an exercise in virtue signalling that cannot have any impact on the climate.

    Framing the question this way and linking it to the punters’ hip-pocket will result in a rather different response, I think.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Has anyone drilled down on the Lowy Institute Poll showing 85$ of Australians want ‘something done about climate change regardless of cost’. What questions were asked in what sequence, how were they contextualised, and what was the sampling size and sample selection methodology?

  82. Empire 5:5

    The oath set out in the Schedule to the Commonwealth Constitution refers to allegiance to ‘Her Majesty Queen Victoria, Her Heirs and successors according to law’.

    Harry is legal issue of the sovereign.

  83. Atoms for Peace.

    Anyone heard of the good Dr Blasey Ford since the hearings.? She has seemingly vanished media wise…

  84. Roger

    Has anyone drilled down on the Lowy Institute Poll showing 85$ of Australians want ‘something done about climate change regardless of cost’.

    Again, the “agree” figure was 59%.

    The question was “Global warming is a serious and pressing problem. We should begin taking steps now even if this involves significant costs.”

    A follow up question of “how much cost would you be prepared to pay in the form of higher electricity bills” would be, er… illuminating.

  85. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    And that in itself was telling: a lefty audience laughing at a lefty justice of SCOTUS.

    Let the poor old thing retire gracefully.

    she won’t make another 6 years.

  86. struth

    Has anyone drilled down on the Lowy Institute Poll showing 85$ of Australians want ‘something done about climate change regardless of cost’.

    As long as it’s no cost to them.

    A completely stupid survey, with a stupid question, but bloody handy for a UN socialist Liberal party member to regurgitate.

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    See you and I are thinking along the same lines here, Norman Church. It would be worth encouraging the Libs to take a more measured view on climatic matters. The best poll on them was the one that romped Tony Abbott in with an outstanding majority drawn from the Australian population in its entirety, not from some dodgy question responded to by a dodgy sample of this population.

  88. cohenite

    Talking to a retailer of hand-guns, rifles etc, the other day who reckons the citizenry will be effectively disarmed in 5 years. She said greenies are joining gun clubs and causing trouble. No one on the conservative side has the balls to go into bat for private ownership of guns and SFF are just too small.

  89. Roger

    An Essential poll last year found 86% of Australians want government to regulate electricity prices.

    They also want the government to invest in renewables to lower prices.

    In short, the average punter has no idea.

  90. I am bespoke

    P

    eter Castieau
    #2840955, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:07 pm
    There is a link on the site regarding Pay Pal. Are you saying it doesn’t work?

    Not my claim others were bitching about it earlier.

  91. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    This makes her between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American,

    and since I share a common ancestor with Queen Victoria (true story), you shall all henceforth refer to me as Sir Zippy.

  92. JC

    A follow up question of “how much cost would you be prepared to pay in the form of higher electricity bills” would be, er… illuminating.

    It’s an essentially meaningless question and result. We’ve seen those polls before and it doesn’t really matter if they’re real or fabricated. The real meat is the cost. Once you begin asking questions about the cost, you realize people are nowhere close to accepting the bill.

  93. None

    Winston. Thank you for your advice. I rely on technology to communicate here and that technology sometimes fails me and it is sometimes physically difficult for me to override it. Thank you for your interest in what I have to say. Maybe scroll given I irritate you so much.

  94. Empire 5:5

    He said that polling had shown that. 85% had said climate change had to have something done no matter the cost( Lowey Institute poll) and it would be electoral suicide if they pulled out.

    He is correct, but the poll is horseshit, so he lied.

    The LNP is dependent on donations from eco-subsidy whores.

  95. egg_

    Did M0nty spur your advances, egg?

    Fuck off you twisted old cow.

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Talk about questionnaire design 101 being abandonned. DO NOT ASK LEADING QUESTIONS. The question asked leads the respondant to agree with the premise about the very thing for which an opinion is being sought.

    I can’t believe that a serious research outfit put their name to this outrageously flawed ‘research’.

  97. egg_

    Shit, you’re irritating.

    Probably Grig’s mother speaking into a dumbphone.

  98. Senile Old Guy

    The question asked leads the respondant to agree with the premise about the very thing for which an opinion is being sought.

    Exactly. It is just propaganda.

  99. Roger

    I can’t believe that a serious research outfit put their name to this outrageously flawed ‘research’.

    Well, they purport to be serious.

  100. Norman Church

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare – #2840982, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:27 pm I can’t believe that a serious research outfit put their name to this outrageously flawed ‘research’.

    The art of survey design was all carefully explained by Sir Humphrey Appleby in a famous episode of Yes, Minister.

  101. bundyrum

    I can’t wait to vote against the LNP, dick & balls ready.
    The senate is our only chance now & Hanson is my choice, i also don’t give a flying fk who i piss off with that choice.

  102. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t worry about Harry. You can’t get much whiter than a redhead.

  103. JC

    From what I recall, Springer-Jones always intros gerbil warming questions by asking panelists if they ” believe in Climate change”.

    It’s basically religion.

  104. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lowy Institute isn’t too bad on geopolitical stuff, but not in science.
    Been on their mailing list for a while, I see them as centre-left but well-meaning.
    They don’t have the background to do crap detection properly.
    Lefties swim in a sea that only righties can see.

  105. bloke

    em>.
    #2840805, posted on October 16, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    Not reliable, Warren’s results are probably garbage anyway, regardless of Bust A Move’s odd methodology:

    I must disagree with Dots statement, I found Ancestry.com to be extremely accurate, I am 73 years old and have recently discovered my birth father and am now in contact with my half sisters and their progeny in the U.S.A and Belize. Two plus years ago I sent my D.N.A sample to Ancestry when the results was checked I found that I had many relations in the U.S.A which indicated that my father was an American serviceman.
    I tracked down several of the closer relations narrowing the field down to 3 families who served in the Pacific during WW2 who may have been in Melbourne in 1944, I narrowed the field down to 5 individuals then after several third cousins turned up a first cousin appeared, success at last, it turned out she was my niece, her grandfather was my father, the story now becomes quite interesting, when General McArthur was taken off Corregidor Island in the Philippines by PT boat and then flown to Australia in March 1942 Richard my father along with 35 other intelligence officers were taken off by the U.S submarine “Permit” after a few incidents with Japanese war ships they survived, berthing in Freemantle.

    Those U.S servicemen who were left behind were then subjected to the infamous Bataan Death March where many U.S servicemen died. He was in Melbourne 2 years later and was involved in the Allied invasion of Leyte Island in the Philippines as a Naval Intelligence Officer, he passed away in 1949 on Guam at the age of 34 years and is buried in the Arlington National Cemetery U.S.A. Thanks to Ancestry.com. I certainly have no complaints re this firm, the reason being that I wrote this missive.

  106. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Yep, Norman. It is a true Sir Humphrey job we are seeing here. That the Libs even begin to think of using it to explain their inaction on stabilising our energy market is tremendously instructive about their mendacity and head in the sand approach to getting rid of green Turnbullmania.

  107. Spider

    Black African lady on The Dumb says she has to ask every time she gets into a taxi to make certain they will take her.

    Would this be the overwhelmingly Indian taxi drivers who are refusing her service.

    And of course no one questions her story on the ABC.

  108. None

    Fuck off you twisted old cow.

    Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it, egg.

  109. I am bespoke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2840980, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    The Arky to his right cracked a smile. So that’s something.

  110. egg_

    Don’t dish it out

    Hanging out for bit of sodomy, vinegar tits?

  111. JC

    Ladies please. It’s not that sort of blog.

  112. Tel

    I can’t believe that a serious research outfit put their name to this outrageously flawed ‘research’.

    Having a good name and good reputation means people in the marketplace want to buy your product.

    So tell me who pays for these survey polls? What would make then come back and buy again?

  113. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Veritas keeps hammering the marxists

  114. DrBeauGan

    Conceited and self absorbed lunacy. How is that not name calling?

    Calli, they do say women take things personally, and they seem to be right. Pointing out that there’s something bizarre about the belief that the entire universe was made just for one species wasn’t intended to insult you or even the gang who believe such a thing, if they exist. As you yourself said, there could be oodles of other species in the universe, and good luck to every one of them.

    This sounds like stress from your trip. Stay laid back, babe.

  115. JC

    I tend to believe that, Spider at least from experience when I lived in NYC. There were constant complaints that sub-continental drivers would refuse to pick up blacks. I get the impression they just don’t like them.

  116. None

    Agree JC. Which is why next time egg wants to name someone who is not present as a slut, you will step in and remind him that it’s not that sort of blog. Now we will sit back and watch egg have one of his usual meltdowns.

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Maybe Donald should take the diluted Indian test himself. He could capitalise then on his own Indian stray gene.

    Most of us have a weird stray gene or two in our Ancestry.com results. 🙂

  118. egg_

    14 None posts on this page alone so far… reminiscent of Grig’s trolling.

  119. DrBeauGan

    Death, has it crossed your mind that suffering BO laden midgets only hours after calling for a time machine to go back and abort me might be cause and effect?

    Not that I did anything. I don’t need to. The ineffable doctrine of Karma operates without my input. Have an evil thought and it comes back to get you.

    Be thankful it’s only BO. Next time it could be much worse.

    I hope you have a safe flight.

  120. egg_

    None
    #2841011, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    It was a joke, psychotard

  121. egg_

    usual meltdowns.

    Shall we, Grigs?

  122. None

    Ahh here we go. Today we’re going to have a paranoid egg breakdown. Pretty soon the usual posse will arrive. Counting 5….4….3….

  123. jupes

    Lowy Institute isn’t too bad on geopolitical stuff, but not in science.

    It is left wing in the geopolitical stuff too.

  124. Baldrick

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison signals willingness to bend on asylum seekers

    Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

  125. I am bispoke

    None
    #2841011, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:45 pm
    Agree JC. Which is why next time egg wants to name someone who is not present as a slut, you will step in and remind him that it’s not that sort of blog. Now we will sit back and watch egg have one of his usual meltdowns.

    OMG! the projection and orifice mining is at a level never seen before.

  126. jupes

    Lyon on fire in the UAE! Pakis 5 / 85.

    Australia will win this.

  127. egg_

    22 None posts on the previous page.

    Manic?

  128. Nick

    I can’t believe that no one asked the shrieking Wong ‘are you saying it’s not ok to be white?

  129. H B Bear

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison signals willingness to bend be bent over on asylum seekers

  130. None

    Egg stays the course. Continues on the well worn path of his mind numbingly predictable paranoia. Await the arrival of his premier aid-de-camp. 3…2…

  131. C.L.

    Just a fortnight ago, 60 Minutes Australia did a big sit-down with Stormy Daniels and hailed the feisty ‘I am Woman Hear Me Roar’ exemplar (who also happens to be a prostitute) and predicted big things for her role in the downfall of Trump.

    Yeah. No.

  132. egg_

    Tiny Dancer
    #2839909, posted on October 15, 2018 at 8:13 pm
    None. Stay off the meth.

    Amen.

  133. I am bespoke

    None
    #2841011, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:45 pm
    Agree JC. Which is why next time egg wants to name someone who is not present as a slut, you will step in and remind him that it’s not that sort of blog. Now we will sit back and watch egg have one of his usual meltdowns.

    OMG! The projection and orifice mining is at a level never seen before. Including Rea.

  134. egg_

    None
    #2841029, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    When I’m not “giving Dot a blow job”, you’re just begging for some sodomy, non?

  135. None

    Who were the three that used to plague Howard with the same old stick on asylum seekers? It was that Petro Georgiou fuk wit and 2 others. It’s the same old tactic by the pantwetters. SloMo must have been really stupid if he thought he could rely on the left votes
    without any quid-pro-quo.

  136. egg_

    None
    #2841029, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    Sodomy
    Sodomy
    Sodomy
    Sodomy
    Sodomy

    Is the devil!

  137. None

    Egg’s calvary is locked in the toilet so he’s going to self stimilate now….and pretend it’s… yay…Dot.

    BINGO.

    Can he also get second prize…5…4…3…

  138. Nick

    I can’t wait till Pirate Pete starts to reheat the Republic issue again, lol.

  139. egg_

    None
    #2841037, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    How long since you had any, psycho?

  140. JC

    Ginnie

    Egg’s a bloke, consequently, he’s in the right and you’re most definitely in the wrong. Pull your head and stop the drama. You need to also apologize for good order’s sake.

  141. None

    Wasn’t Stormy also named one of the most powerful women in some small feminist Universe recently?

  142. Delta A

    bloke
    #2840997, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Great post, bloke.

    Enjoy your new-found family and heritage.

  143. Geriatric Mayfly

    I found that very sad. ie. the video clip of Ginsberg. When she started rattling around in her handbag, I thought she was looking for a treat for the dog. That would have been the final embarrassment. But lo and behold she pulls out a rather tattered copy of the Constitution. She did all Junior Woodchucks proud.

  144. min

    Lowey institute poll is available on net I checked it out because I doubted those numbers as I listen to talk back and general public.
    It is a lefty institute but it does seem to echo beliefs in Wentworth. Also did Statistics, Research and Analysis at post graduate level and worked in Market Research whilst completing qualifications.

  145. jupes

    Tom at the top of the page:

    Six wickets before lunch would be fun.

    Close. Pakis 5 / 77.

  146. DrBeauGan

    Dot, you asked me a while back if my prescription was for never, always, or only before n weeks for some n, in respect of abortion.

    I don’t have a prescription at all. Unlike so many here, I do not get my rocks off telling others how to live their lives. I don’t feel qualified.

    If it were my offspring involved, I’d be strongly prejudiced against an abortion at all. If it were somebody else’s I’m available for thoughts on the subject only if I know all the circumstances well. If I don’t, I’d prefer to mind my own business.

    I seem to lack the busybody gene. I hope you all feel sorry for my suffering this defect.

  147. egg_

    None
    #2841037, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    That was your psycho accusation when I replied to Calli – somehow I was defending Dot = blowjob in your twisted psychosexual mind, Grig’s mum.

  148. None

    Score! The Head Prefect has arrived.

  149. JC

    Delta

    Is that you in the US? If it is tell me… Looking out of the plane leaving LA I spend a wonderful time looking down at what I think is the Mojave desert. It’s a grey color. I’ve always wondered what the drive would be like from LA across the country, as the terrain changes are fascinating. Have you driven from LA to where you are now? Is is as good as I think it would be.

  150. Rae

    The issue is laziness in communication. The odd mistake is fine, but with you, it’s that your posts become increasingly unintelligible as the day goes on.

    And then there’s the bad typing as well.

  151. egg_

    None
    #2841050, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    I hope your phone goes flat, fvckwit.

  152. H B Bear

    On Tuesday, the Herald Sun revealed that Victorian Liberal MPs Julia Banks and Russell Broadbent, as well as NSW moderate Craig Laundy, met Mr Morrison last month …

    Banks has already said she is not seeking re-elction and is in an unwinnable seat anyway. Laundy spat the dummy after Waffles was booted. Just trouble-making Lieboral wets. SloMo should just tell them to piss off – but won’t of course.

  153. JC

    Whoops… Calli… I think, not Delta.

  154. Pedro the Ignorant

    Spot gold price ^ @ $A1726 per Oz.

    Goldbugs happy.

  155. .

    That’s a good, honest answer BG.

    I can’t flaw you for that.

  156. JC

    Pedro

    Gold is going to head south if US rates continue going up.

  157. None

    Egg continues down the twisted path of his febrile paranoia busily rying to find some excuse, any excusr, for calling a woman, one who is known to readers of this blog but is nevertheless not present at the moment, eggs busily trying to find an excuse for calling this woman a slut.

  158. DrBeauGan

    Egg, we need to be kind to None. A clearer case of a pigeon shitting on the chess board, strutting around knocking over the pieces and confident she’s winning the chess match would be hard to find.

  159. Boambee John

    incoherent rambler
    #2840861, posted on October 16, 2018 at 5:02 pm
    Anyone seen or heard from Monty?

    Ssh. Never disturb your enemy …

    If he had a staph infection, he may be on the wrong side of the grass.

    It is definitely better to be standing up looking down at the grass than lying down looking up at the roots.

  160. None

    I hope your phone goes flat, fvckwit.

    Careful, Rae might complain about your typing.

  161. egg_

    eggs busily trying to find an excuse for calling this woman a slut.

    Nurse!

  162. .

    Pedro

    It should be higher. I get the feeling the RBA is supporting the Aussie dollar. I know the mineral exporters are pushing it higher, but on the financial figures globally, I can’t see the support.

    Or at least I’m blaming them, as I talk my own book.

    I can’t believe it is still buzzing around 0.70 USD. it should drop like a big fat blowfly.

    A crash of the AUD would make my day.

  163. Geriatric Mayfly

    Spot gold price ^ @ $A1726 per Oz.
    Goldbugs happy.

    Might be time to scout around in the roof again and see if some old timer has left another stash tucked away.

  164. JC

    I get the feeling the RBA is supporting the Aussie dollar.

    STOP! No, they are not.

  165. None

    Hark, the four cells speak. Interesting to see that little coagulation in the mix. It’s like Blair’s law now.

  166. Delta A

    Egg, we need to be kind to None. A clearer case of a pigeon shitting on the chess board, strutting around knocking over the pieces and confident she’s winning the chess match would be hard to find.

    Onya, Beaugy. Someone had to say it.

  167. egg_

    Dr Martyr – is this an effect of electrolyte imbalance, or summut?

  168. Peter Castieau

    I have checked and the Pay Pal link is good.

    BTW can someone repost Sam’s AC advertisement with the preview screen?

  169. JC

    Wow, Taylor Swift seems to have really put on the pounds , or stones in her case.

    http://tswiftdaily.com/image/178042981721

    For some reason I get jammed with Pininterest pics for her after I joined up for architecture porn.

  170. Frank

    This makes her between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American,

    We share something like 80% of our DNA with sea cucumbers as well. Obviously of relevance.

  171. None

    Nurse!

    Hark, the arrival of a beaugan has got the egg scrambling. The albumen is crying for his anticoagulant (sic.) medication. Hopefully the nurse will arrive soon with his nightly pills and escort him back to his shell…er..cell.

  172. JC

    While on the subject, Pacific Heights is without doubt the most beautiful burb in the world. Lovely home, but pity leftwing loons have ruined such a great city.

  173. Delta A

    We share something like 80% of our DNA with sea cucumbers as well.

    I’m quite happy to share DNA with sea cucumbers. And maybe Wood Ducks?

    I love wood Ducks.

  174. Frank

    And maybe Wood Ducks?

    I love wood Ducks.

    Probably 85% for them. Then there would be the owls, they seem pretty cool.

  175. None

    I’m quite happy to share DNA with sea cucumbers. And maybe Wood Ducks?

    She’s all yours, Beaugan.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    It is [Lowy Institute] left wing in the geopolitical stuff too.

    Yes, but not obnoxiously.

    Though I just had a look at the last email last Thursday and guess what is the first article?
    Sheesh.

    As I said, they ain’t great on science.

    I was once invited to one of their round tables with an overseas guy who I won’t name. I was the only person around the table who wasn’t an academic or DFAT weenie.

  177. Tintarella di Luna

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2840980, posted on October 16, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    Thank you Sir Zippy – great speech from Rand Paul

  178. Delta A

    Probably 85% for them. Then there would be the owls, they seem pretty cool.

    Thanks, Frank. I always thought my ancestors were just boring old farts.

    Now I see they’re as you say, pretty cool. 🙂

  179. DrBeauGan

    I’m quite happy to share DNA with sea cucumbers. And maybe Wood Ducks?

    She’s all yours, Beaugan.

    ∆ is a very nice lady, and sane.

    Neither the sort of thing you would understand, alas.

  180. Rae

    While on the subject, Pacific Heights is without doubt the most beautiful burb in the world.

    Exactly so. And the Painted Ladies are most attractive too. Don’t know why calli spoke disparagingly of them.

  181. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    worth a watch

  182. DrBeauGan

    None has 100% of her genes in common with a pigeon. One that thinks it can play chess.

  183. egg_

    None has nightmares about sodomy.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    LOL.
    I just checked out the twitter feed of the lady whose article I said ‘sheesh’ about.
    Latest tweet is retweeting Eric ‘vasectomy’ Holthaus.
    And it’s a ripper.

    Eric Holthaus‏Verified account @EricHolthaus · Oct 10
    Early last year, I wrote this twitter thread about my mental health struggles as a full-time climate reporter.
    I’m still in counseling.
    The biggest thing I’ve learned: You’ve got to take care of yourself. Only you can do that.

    Gaia is coming for you Eric. Stop flying and have yourself done before it’s too late.

  185. None

    I don’t play chess, Beaugan. 😊

  186. egg_

    Where on the doll did he hurt you, None?

  187. JC

    Rand Paul- a true 100% libertarian and saying how it is. Trump exceeds his expectations every day. Good for him, but I wish he’d get rid of the sleeveless sweater though.

  188. egg_

    None likes to play hide the sausage.

  189. DrBeauGan

    I don’t play chess, Beaugan.

    I’m glad you’ve noticed.

  190. None

    Gosh Zippy I couldn’t get past the 40 second mark. That was just grotesque.

  191. struth

    JC, I have driven out of LA through to Arizona on some of route 66, through to the Grand Canyon , Bryce, death Valley, Las Vegas, etc out of Chicago down through St Louis to Nashville and Memphis, and out of Washington a little way.

    I was a young one eyed proud Australian tour driver, until I did that.

    Insanely beautiful country, and very much a driver’s paradise.

  192. .

    None
    #2841093, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    I don’t play chess, Beaugan. 😊

    Pipe down, Offdot.

  193. DrBeauGan

    Egg, think of it this way, would you feel good if None was on your side in an argument?

  194. Atoms for Peace.

    After much thought and a couple of wines, I offer the following. Homeopathic heritage. Works for me.

  195. struth

    Is None related to Johanna?

    Seems to have similar traits.

    Joyous though they are.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rand Paul- a true 100% libertarian and saying how it is.

    JC – That’s Ron Paul. Rand Paul is a conservative.

  197. egg_

    would you feel good if None was on your side in an argument?

    Nope, but the devout don’t dissuade them.

  198. Rae

    I have driven out of LA through to Arizona on some of route 66, through to the Grand Canyon , Bryce, death Valley, Las Vegas, etc out of Chicago down through St Louis to Nashville and Memphis, and out of Washington a little way

    Next trip you should drive Highway 101 from Los Angeles to SanFrancisco. Photo opportunities at every turn.

  199. JC

    Bruce

    With a very strong libertarian bent. Rand is quite Libertarian, Bruce.

  200. struth

    Yes and thank god the average American wasn’t as Dumb as Rand Paul, or the rest of the gutless and bought republicans, and didn’t need to have their minds changed.

    Might be a good bloke now, but he still had to be led kicking and screaming to see where his future security lay.

    Politicians aren’t smart and they lack conviction and integrity.

    Only .00001 percent of Liberal party reps have a policy platform they will not walk away from, according to a New Lowy institute report.
    And that’s even their own left wing policy.
    There are ZERO liberal party members who will not walk away from a conservative policy according to a new Lowy institute report.

  201. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2841105, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:43 pm
    Is None related to Johanna?

    Seems to have similar traits.

    Joyous though they are.

    I don’t think so, Struth. Except for the odd touch of menopause, Johanna was quite often sane. Mind you, when she went for someone she could qualify for a straitjacket no questions asked. I guess that’s why she’s no longer with us.

    None is just out of her depth and too dumb to notice. She’d be out of her depth on a damp pavement.

    We need to be kind and tolerant in case she ever gets to see herself clearly.

  202. Tintarella di Luna

    Write the check, Donald. You’ll look gracious, and you’ll have an amusing talking point and photograph that will last the entire 2020 campaign.

    On his show dealing with this topic Greg Gutfeld said Trump should write a cheque to Liarwatha for whatever is 1/1024th of $1million – now that would be an excellent talking point for the 2020 campaign on identity politics and what it’s worth.

  203. None

    Egg should count the number of times people have mentioned me on this thread. If I was an academic, I’d be tenured by now.

    #tooeasy

  204. struth

    Next trip you should drive Highway 101 from Los Angeles to SanFrancisco. Photo opportunities at every turn.

    That’s already in the itinerary.

    Mrs Struth wants to do it in a Mustang convertible.
    What a wanker.

  205. .

    Might be a good bloke now, but he still had to be led kicking and screaming to see where his future security lay.

    Come off it. How dare he run against Trump!

    Nope, people like Cruz and Paul are why we know Trump is good. He’s working with them and he beat them in the primaries.

  206. DrBeauGan

    None
    #2841109, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    And JACKPOT!!!

    Another crap on the chessboard.

  207. None

    None is just out of her depth and too dumb to notice. She’d be out of her depth on a damp pavement.

    And yet Dr Beaugan, Mr Four Cells himself, could not win a simple debate with me. Have you worked out what you were before you were human, Four Cells?

  208. struth

    That’s not the point dot.

    Trump had to go it alone for ages with no backing from the GOP, and had to keep winning before they begrudgingly saw in Trump what the general public already worked out.

    Now the Trump train is winning they are all jumping on trying to own some of it.

    Pathetic.

    You may have a short memory……………………………………………………

  209. JC

    Nope, people like Cruz and Paul are why we know Trump is good. He’s working with them and he beat them in the primaries.

    Yep and Trump is very, very comfortable with these two guys and I reckon has grown to like both of them very much.

  210. DrBeauGan

    None
    #2841114, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:54 pm
    Egg should count the number of times people have mentioned me on this thread. If I was an academic, I’d be tenured by now.

    Maybe he counted the number of people who think you’re an obnoxious thicko?

  211. JC

    Struth

    Paul is very ideological in his leanings

  212. Delta A

    None
    #2841093, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    I don’t play chess, Beaugan.

    None comes here to fight, nothing more.

    It (I’m not convinced it’s a woman) is aggressive, abusive, partly informed and incapable of rational discussion. None insists that everyone agrees with it, resorting to prolonged and pedantic argument – almost nagging – until convinced it has harangued everyone into its viewpoint.

    It’s a shame, really, because occasionally, None does have good points to contribute. But rather than suffer its interminable preaching and scolding, many would prefer to give None a big miss.

  213. DrBeauGan

    And yet Dr Beaugan, Mr Four Cells himself, could not win a simple debate with me.

    You haven’t yet grasped the pigeon allusion, None.

  214. I am bespoke

    Peter Castieau
    #2841074, posted on October 16, 2018 at 7:18 pm
    I have checked and the Pay Pal link is good.
    BTW can someone repost Sam’s AC advertisement with the preview screen?

  215. .

    Okay struth, tell us what Rand Paul should really do, and why that would help Trump.

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    Played chess with a pigeon and a magpie a couple hours ago.
    Young crested pigeon decided to wander around looking for breadcrumbs at the base of my stairs.
    Magpie saw this.
    Crested pigeons are the white pieces and magpies the black pieces.
    Down comes magpie to monster pigeon kiddie, bishop to c4 for fools mate.
    I’m ref. I stepped onto the board between the playing pieces and said stop that!
    Magpie was sheepish, he loves ripping bunches of feathers out of crested pigeons.
    Crested pigeon had wing cocked and ready for an almighty buffet.
    Fed magpie.
    Fed pigeon kiddie.
    Chess game drawn.

  217. Tailgunner

    Is Trump god, or just the luckiest man alive who is blessed with opponents who contain multitudes in their ignorance?

    He is god.
    Go Trump, you magnificent bastard!
    What a ride.
    #NOBRAKES
    “We’re going to Win, and we’re going to keep on Winning… ”
    It just never gets old. There’s never too much Winning!

  218. None

    I’m pretty sure the AFP used some people here on the Cat to write their textbook on online bullying. We have it all, the mobbing, the abusive sexual language, the attempted doxing, the discussions about mental health…

  219. Delta A

    Tee hee, Beaugy. I love it when you call me ∆ .

  220. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I don’t think Johanna has been banned. Seems she is just sitting it out by choice for a while. She was complaining she was in moderation for some breach, but not banned from commenting. That’s my guess, anyway. I’ve found if you get thrown in the spaminator it’s not too long before someone lets you out.. sinc runs a pretty open house here.. so if she was commenting we would hear from her.

  221. DrBeauGan

    None comes here to fight, nothing more.

    It (I’m not convinced it’s a woman) is aggressive, abusive, partly informed and incapable of rational discussion. None insists that everyone agrees with it, resorting to prolonged and pedantic argument – almost nagging – until convinced it has harangued everyone into its viewpoint.

    It’s a shame, really, because occasionally, None does have good points to contribute. But rather than suffer its interminable preaching and scolding, many would prefer to give None a big miss.

    That’s a charitable assessment, ∆, and I concur.

    I confess to deriving a certain amount of amusement from baiting her. This is something I should probably be ashamed of, but I somehow can’t quite manage it.

  222. None

    None comes here to fight, nothing more.

    Careful, Delta, twhat’s his name I keep forgetting, oh yeah, I am bespoke might accuse you of trying hard to be one of the boys.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Love you tales of life on the wing, Bruce. I can picture every move.

  224. DrBeauGan

    None
    #2841132, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:05 pm
    I’m pretty sure the AFP used some people here on the Cat to write their textbook on online bullying. We have it all, the mobbing, the abusive sexual language, the attempted doxing, the discussions about mental health…

    Oh, you poor maligned thing!

    I wonder why people bully you? Any thoughts on it?

  225. None

    Could you all please decide what gender I am before I totally split my sides laughing. I mean, I know this is a libertarian -centre right blog in name only and individual opinion doesn’t matter. And I know that I have to wait for the Stalinist thought Collective to rule ony gender. But I’d like to resolve this so I know which toilet to use before I have an accident.

  226. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I love it when you have a little flirt with Beaugy, Delta. Stuff of life It makes the world go round and the Cat environment less toxic than it can sometimes get to be. Calli is good like that too. Always a chuckle when one is needed.

    The fact that people are known here as individuals is one of the charms of the place, and a great secret in its ongoung success

  227. DrBeauGan

    You don’t think that having the self-awareness of a nematode might have something to do with it?

    Just a thought.

  228. None

    Come on all you big men and girl. Can we have a final decision on my gender?

  229. Death Giraffe

    How dare you inflict your BO infected midget minions on me.
    You bastard.

  230. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    None, I am sure you are a woman.

    I sympathise, because years ago someone said I must be a man because of my literary style.

    lol. I can’t think of any man who would happily own my style of writing.

  231. Delta A

    Arky, you’re alive! 🙂

    Now go have a shower. You stink!

  232. Geriatric Mayfly

    We share something like 80% of our DNA with sea cucumbers as well. Obviously of relevance.

    Aren’t bananas in there somewhere?

  233. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love Change.org

    I’ve signed onto one or two petitions for Cat-style things, I forget what.
    So now I get these emailed suggestions.
    Here’s the latest:

    Nauru:

    After being told to immediately leave Nauru, Doctors Without Borders (MSF) have grave concerns for the health and wellbeing of the children in detention.

    Bruce, will you join their call for the immediate evacuation of all asylum seekers and refugees from Nauru, and for an end to the Australian offshore detention policy?

    Why yes I’d just love for that to happen! I suggest deporting them all to Indonesia, Iran and Pakistan. The children should go with their parents, as keeping families together is a good thing.
    What, that’s not what the petition is about?
    Bummer.

  234. DrBeauGan

    None
    #2841143, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:18 pm
    Come on all you big men and girl. Can we have a final decision on my gender?

    I don’t give half a damp fart in a thunderstorm.

    As long as I don’t have to be your gynaecologist.

    You’d be astonished how much we don’t care.

  235. Tailgunner

    Stimpson!
    I saw you drop in earlier. Excellent.
    I was nearly in the Stimpy=Monty.Confirmed! camp…

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