Monday Forum: October 15, 2018

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  1. struth

    I don’t give a rats about your story none.
    There is so much disrespect for men and their history of sacrifice to protect women and children in this sentence.

    I am a woman, therefore I have a vested interest in the welfare of women and children.
    History quite simply tells us that this statement is a lie.
    Compared to men women have shown much less of a vested interest.
    Much less.
    Looking at men’s great sacrifice for his women and children of his tribe or country not just his own offspring tghen that statement is disgraceful and disrespectful.

  2. Armadillo

    That story I told you is actually 100% true and there’s a police record to prove it. Let fools fight their own wars.

    Righto. I’m calling “bullshit”.

  3. Armadillo

    Fakeness is pretty easy to detect.

  4. None

    Too bad Armadillo. You can sit here and now post 50 comments in a row saying b******* b******* and it won’t change the truth. Night.

  5. None

    I have no beef with you struth, none whatsoever, even if you are stark raving mad. Night.

  6. calli

    Fight Nite at the Cat just isn’t what it was.

    More swiffer and broom than bobcat and skip.

  7. C.L.

    LOL:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    “Federal Judge throws out Stormy Danials lawsuit versus Trump. Trump is entitled to full legal fees.” @FoxNews Great, now I can go after Horseface and her 3rd rate lawyer in the Great State of Texas. She will confirm the letter she signed! She knows nothing about me, a total con!

  8. C.L.

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Thank you to the Cherokee Nation for revealing that Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, is a complete and total Fraud!

  9. Armadillo

    Well, that’s settled that then.

    What a load of bullshit. Every button from “victimhood” to “oppression” has been pressed.

    Good night Sir, and fuck off to the hole from whence you came, you lying bastard.

  10. None

    Ah sorry Struth. It wasn’t Bespoke who thought I was a male. But he did accuse me of being happy if both a woman and child dies. And I informed him I was a woman. And he’s been begging for attention since even though he knows I don’t wish to speak to him. No self control that one. Night again

  11. None

    I confess Calli that I’ve laughed an awful lot in the last couple of days. Night to you too. Work time for me.

  12. I am bespoke

    None
    #2841423, posted on October 17, 2018 at 1:57 am
    Thanks JC.

    OMG! is there no end to your colon tunneling. Its not all about you

    Mark A
    #2839686, posted on October 15, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    None
    #2839687, posted on October 15, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    I am bespoke
    #2839728, posted on October 15, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Delta A
    #2841125, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:00 pm

  13. Armadillo

    And I informed him I was a woman.

    Pfffft…it’s now boarding on ridiculous.

  14. None

    I’m sorry your wife left you Bespoke. Night.

  15. Snoopy

    None
    #2841428, posted on October 17, 2018 at 2:15 am
    >
    Night.

    1/6

  16. Snoopy

    None
    #2841429, posted on October 17, 2018 at 2:17 am
    >
    Night

    2/6

  17. calli

    From way up thread.

    No, JC, we flew LA to SF, then on to Denver where we picked up a car. I’m now having a magnificent carb laden breakfast in Rapid City prior to popping up to Mt Rushmore.

    On SF architecture, my comment was that it was a mixed bag. Very mixed. Which stands to reason because of the earthquake, fire and the sense of impermanence that seems to dangle over the place. A good example is the park that only became a park after the on-ramp collapsed in the ‘89 quake. Overpasses are a thing of the past after that tragedy.

    I didn’t get up to Pacific Heights or Alamo Square, I’m saving that for next year when we have a day in SF. I’m really looking forward to seeing the Painted Ladies then. Most of my observations were made from the cable car or DLine.

    What was amusing was that the safest place to be in a quake is Alcatraz, as it’s on bedrock. Apparently the Marina area liquefied in the last one.

  18. Armadillo

    Work time for me.

    Morgue?

  19. Snoopy

    None
    #2841438, posted on October 17, 2018 at 2:37 am
    >
    Night.

    3/6

  20. Snoopy

    It’s just taxation, pure and simple.

    German law enforcement authorities have fined Volkswagen’s luxury division Audi 800 million euros ($1.3 billion), as the fallout continues after the carmaker sold cars rigged to cheat on emissions tests.

  21. DrBeauGan

    When the world is all black
    And clouds cover the sun,
    When you feel a need to
    Shoot yourself with a gun,
    When your sold on the feeling
    Your life’s course is run,
    And everything worthwhile
    Is finished and done,
    Stop! Acknowledge things could be an awful lot worse,
    You might be some poor bugger married to None

  22. None

    Glad I am keeping you alive BG.
    Now put the bong down and go to bed.
    Things will look brighter when you’re rested.

  23. I am bespoke

    I am bespoke
    #2839952, posted on October 15, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    Nope, show self control if you can and scroll.

    None
    #2841434, posted on October 17, 2018 at 2:29 am
    No self control that one.

  24. Tom

    Sigh. Australia’s best cartoonist, Johannes Leak, has lost his fill-in job because Jon Kudelka has returned from holidays with a typically inane, passive-aggressive scribble. No Australian newspaper loathes its readers more than the Paywallian.

  25. Tom

    “Mac” (Stan McMurtry, London Daily Mail).

  26. Tom

    Ben Garrison on the 2018 mid-terms (2016 deja vu all over again).

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks Tom.
    And there is a special mid-week Week in Pictures on Liarwatha Warren.

  28. Tom

    Thanks, Leigh. The most hilarious part is that Liarwatha, being a lefty, is too stupid to understand what’s really going down.

  29. Top Ender

    Hey Calli, we’re doing LA through to the east coast in January – cold! – via the border towns and cities to keep warm.

    Appreciate any observations you may have in regard to such areas.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tom’s up and we are off to dinner soon. We’ve spent some time today driving into Shrewsbury and having a look around.

    It is a fascinating old medieval town with many ancient buildings of Tudor era or earlier. We passed by one building where Henry VII (to be) spent the night before going on to the Battle of Bosworth which delivered him the throne of England, as the first Welsh and Tudor King. He was born at Pembroke Castle which we visited yesterday.

    In Shrewsbury there are also interesting places to explore such as the Traitors’ Gate leading to the Severn river, now in flood, which conveyed traitors to execution. On the way you can see the Bear Stairs, where poor captured bears were led to the forecourt of the twelfth century Church of St Mary to be ‘baited’ – tortured to death in various unpleasant ways. Shades of a very ancient bear cult and a dislike of the associated pagan beliefs, I suspect.

    On another rather ancient Church tower is a reminder of the scope of human ambition, in this case thwarted. A gravestone, now preserved inserted to the walls, tells the tale for posterity:

    Let this small monument record the name
    of Cadmon, and to future time proclaim
    How by’n attempt to fly from this high spire
    across the Sabine stream he did acquire
    His fatal end. ‘Twas not for want of skill
    Or courage to perform the task he fell,
    No, no, a faulty Cord being drawn too tight
    Harried his Soul on high to take her flight
    Which bid the body here beneath good Night
    Feb 2nd 1739 aged 28

    Cadmon was a steeplejack known for his deering- do acts of ‘rope flying’ bravado.

    The famous Cat ‘no, no’ so beloved by CL and other argumentative commenters, has a respectable heritage here. 🙂

    By the way, None, I think there is plenty of evidence that women think, and write stylistically, in ways different from how men do things. To say nothing of their ‘take’ on certain issues.

    It is not always apparent of course.

  31. Gab

    Hmmmm … some females who used male noms de plume …

    Charlotte, Emily, and Anne Brontë – Currer, Ellis, and Acton Bell.
    Mary Anne Evans – George Eliot.
    Joanne Rowling – J. K. Rowling / Robert Galbraith.
    Louisa May Alcott – A. M. Barnard.
    Nelle Harper Lee – Harper Lee.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ugh, Kudelka is racially denigrating most Aussies and Rowe is hearting anti-Semites. Typical lefty cartoon morning.

  33. Tom

    It’s really sad that America’s best cartoonist, Michael Ramirez, no longer posts his best work at Twitter because the best software for distributing creative content has been turned into a censorious fascist sewer by the idiot who runs it, Jack Dorsey. Silicon Valley has the collective intelligence of a gnat.

  34. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    By the way Cats, did you know that Cassie, Kitteh commenter here, had her long comment on leftie venality re Me-too and also on Kavanagh chosen as The Australian’s Comment of the Week? Cassie can sock it to them expertly when her dander is up.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Bronte works are very femake in style and content though Gab. Eliott tòo has similarities to the neglected works of Mrs Gaskell, which I have actually read. Intensely concerned with the female psyche, both of them, and good at it. Same with Alcott’s ‘Little Women’.

  36. Top Ender

    More on the WA fakester MP from the print edition of the Oz:

    Ex-MP faces court on fake CV charges
    PAIGE TAYLOR

    A police officer turned politician accused of fabricating a past career as a war crimes investigator has faced a Perth court charged with faking his CV as far back as 2001.

    Barry Urban, who was elected to the West Australian parliament when Labor swept to power in a landslide in March last year, stood in the Perth Magistrates Court yesterday as magistrate Joe Randazzo read out 12 fraud charges including that he falsified his policing qualifications in 2001, the year he first tried to enter the WA Police Force after arriving in Australia from Britain.

    In other charges read aloud to the court, Mr Urban was accused of faking qualifications from the University of Leeds and the University of Portsmouth and a referee’s letter. Prosecutors also allege that in 2007, when Mr Urban was a serving WA police officer, he committed the offence of intending to defraud to gain a benefit by making up qualifications as an investigator.

    Six of the charges stem from Mr Urban’s evidence to a parliamentary inquiry that scrutinised his claims about his career, his education and specifically his claim to have investigated atrocities in the Balkans in 1998 as part of an international police taskforce.

    Mr Urban announced in May he was leaving parliament, just before the inquiry’s findings were tabled.

    Mr Urban was not required to enter a plea yesterday, his first court appearance since being charged. He is due to return to court next month.

    I’d say he may serve time…

  37. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sorry for the typos. I’ve had a new cover out on this phone replacing the one I cracked when I sat on it, but it has just shifted the hard to press keys feom the left to the righ of the keyboard. It is infuriatingly slow to comment via phone mode.

    None, you also have my sympathies re this. If you stopped to proof read and correct it all you’d never get to dinner. Sorry for that, Winston. 🙂

  38. egg_

    So what gender am I boys and girl?

    the missionary position

    “No sex please, we’re British.”

  39. egg_

    being bullied by nasty men last night

    Does Snic have a “tits or F off” button?

  40. Top Ender

    Space sculpture has critics firing up

    Trevor Paglen’s orbiting artwork will be visible from Earth

    LOS ANGELES: The launch date is fast approaching for a satellite unlike any other: a giant unfurling sculpture that could become the most viewed work of art in history.

    Orbital Reflector will be fired into space next month aboard a Falcon 9 rocket built by Elon Musk’s company SpaceX. Once about 560km above Earth, an unremarkable box containing the sculpture will burst open and the shiny silver material will expand into an elongated diamond shape about 30m long.

    It will circle the globe about every 90 minutes and should be visible at night to the naked eye when the sun’s rays bounce off it.

    Trevor Paglen, the American artist who conceived the $US1.3 million ($1.8m) project with the Nevada Museum of Art’s support, said it was to encourage “all of us to look up at the night sky with a renewed sense of wonder, to consider our place in the universe and reimagine how we live together on this planet”.

    Scientists are disturbed by what they see as a pointless addition to human clutter around our planet. “This project brings nothing we don’t have already,” Mark McCaughrean, an adviser at the European Space Agency, tweeted in August.

    “I think most people would appreciate a little more reverence for the natural world rather than inserting yet another artificial structure,” Caleb Scharf, director of the Columbia Astrobiology Centre, told The Atlantic.

    Paglen said he wanted a discussion about space, where more than 1800 active satellites are in orbit. “I was noticing that there was a kind of military occupation of space that had been in place for a long time,” he told CBS.

    “For me, it was important to create a kind of catalyst for people to go out and to look at the sky and think about … the politics of space and public space.”

    The sculpture is expected to spend about three months in orbit then drop back into the atmosphere and burn up.

    THE TIMES

  41. egg_

    Anyone who uses voice recognition to talk to a blog site has serious problems.

    They’re in a straight jacket?

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Admired Nordic welfare state news.

    Sweden Begins Hand Grenade Amnesty

    The weapons amnesty is set to take place between October 15th to January 11th of next year and is aimed at getting grenades and other explosives off the streets where they are being used by organised criminal gangs, broadcaster SVT reports.

    A report released earlier this year by the National Forensic Centre (NFC) noted that hand grenades had been used a total of 43 times across the country last year by criminals.

    Maybe they should have an AK-47 amnesty too.

  43. egg_

    I have spent an inordinate amount of time typing this particular comment to respond to your fuckwittery

    It should be on permanent scroll by, but sometimes this bot makes sense, until it’s triggered by sexual terms like “slut”*.
    Where on the dolly did he hurt you?

    *It was an in joke with M0nster, retard, but feel free to ruin the frivolity, Sister Jane.

  44. egg_

    None
    #2841438, posted on October 17, 2018 at 2:37 am
    >
    Night.

    3/6

    37 posts on that page alone.

  45. Herodotus

    Bruce, I have an example of Nordic winning. A horse of that name won in (I think) Race 5 at Newcastle yesterday.

  46. egg_

    By the way Cats, did you know that Cassie, Kitteh commenter here, had her long comment on leftie venality re Me-too and also on Kavanagh chosen as The Australian’s Comment of the Week?

    Plenty of sassy and witty Kittehs here, shame about the psych ward poster.

  47. Knuckle Dragger

    Still waiting for some form of evidence as to the kiddy pron thing, None.

    No? Oh ok then.

    And for your information, because you obviously don’t know I lost my virginity at age 13 on a park bench in country Victoria. Not as cool as hanging out with South American hookers but there you go.

    Now STFU and make me my bacon and egg sanga. With steak sauce. It’s all you’re good for.

    You’re welcome.

  48. egg_

    Now STFU and make me my bacon and egg sanga. With steak sauce.

    That’s foreplay to the hysterical types on here.

  49. rickw

    Thanks Tom and Leigh!

    Week in pictures special mid week edition had me laughing out loud!

    My favourite was the duck, 1/2024 bald eagle!

    Thanks Tom.
    And there is a special mid-week Week in Pictures on Liarwatha Warren.

  50. rickw

    Admired Nordic welfare state news.

    Sweden Begins Hand Grenade Amnesty

    Guns are for duck shooting, hand grenades are for fishing!

    What a terrible thing for law abiding muslim fishermen!

  51. OldOzzie

    Tom

    All excellent today other than OZ,

    but Bob Gorrell nails it

  52. OldOzzie

    And Thanks to Leigh as well for

    And there is a special mid-week Week in Pictures on
    Liarwatha Warren.

    as a Petrol Head, I will go with Jeep Cherokee

  53. Tintarella di Luna

    Leadership failure saved Julie Bishop’s soul, says sister MaryLou

    I actually think MaryLou’s concerns are baseless.

    Here’s the story:

    EXCLUSIVE
    MICHAEL OWEN
    SA BUREAU CHIEF
    11:00PM OCTOBER 16, 2018
    The older sister of Julie Bishop says she is glad the former foreign minister did not replace Malcolm Turnbull because the “brutality” of the nation’s top job would have destroyed her sibling’s soul.

    MaryLou Bishop, who is seeking a second term at local government elections in South Australia next month, said she was “absolutely” disappointed her sister did not succeed during the recent leadership turmoil that led to the elevation of Scott ­Morrison.

    But she said as a protective sibling, she was “actually glad” her younger sister did not become prime minister.

    “I shouldn’t even say that — but it’s the brutality. The brutality of politics is dreadful,” Ms Bishop said yesterday.

    “It’s soul-destroying. For that reason I am glad that she wasn’t voted for. But for her personally, what a slap in the face.

    “I could not believe it. Julie has done so well and just worked so hard and there are a whole heap of political people that I am really angry with.

    “I am going to have a lot of ­difficulty knowing how I am going to vote next time.”

    Her comments echo those of Alex Turnbull, the son of former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull who is backing Labor candidate Tim Murray in Saturday’s by-election in Wentworth, the Sydney seat his father relinquished when he was dumped in August.

    Those tumultuous events in Canberra also ended Julie Bishop’s 11 years as deputy Liberal leader and five years as foreign minister. She resigned from cabinet after it emerged no West Australian federal MP voted for her in the Liberal leadership ballot.

    Although she has indicated she will run again in her safe seat of Curtin at the next poll, her sister yesterday said she was still “weighing up her options” but would not cause a by-election.

    “It will be very interesting to see what Julie does, and where she goes,” Ms Bishop said.

    “She’s been contacted by ­people from all over the world who can’t believe what was ­happening here in Australia, and she is just weighing up her ­options at the moment.

    “I don’t know if she will stand again at the next election. From my point of view, I wouldn’t.

    “I’d say, ‘Bugger the lot of you’. She’ll want time to think about what she’s going to do — I do know she will not cause a by-election.

    “I can see why Malcolm did not want to be on the backbench with Tony Abbott. Oh my God, they have to get rid of him.”

    Ms Bishop, 66, who is not a member of any political party, is the oldest of four Bishop children. There is another sister, Patricia, and the youngest, Douglas.

    She runs a surgical devices company and since 2014 has been a member of local government in Walkerville, one of Adelaide’s most affluent areas.

    She is running on a platform of tidier and quieter streets, preserving trees and transparent local government. Her campaign brochure includes an elegant portrait and the slogan: “Vote 1 MaryLou Bishop … For a more beautiful Walkerville.”

    “Walkerville is seen as being very wealthy, but you’d be shocked that 12 per cent of our land mass is for state housing,” she said.

    Last year, she resisted calls to reduce the number of councillors, saying the council risked being overrun by housewives who had “never done a thing in their lives”.

    Also last year it was revealed that Julie Bishop had been in Adelaide during the past several years on official business at the same time as family events in her sister’s home.

    “All of that is so ridiculous,” Ms Bishop said yesterday. “Julie has missed so many family events — she didn’t even come to our wedding — because she put politics first. When my father died last year, we couldn’t even find Julie.”

    Ms Bishop said her younger sister would not be helping her on the campaign trail.

    “The only campaign advice she gives me is that in photographs there should be no jewellery, which is great coming from her, and simple outfits so the only thing that features is yourself,” she said.

    “The advice I give her is always philosophical — ‘Do not look back’, or ‘If you want revenge, just move on’.”

  54. Top Ender

    Richard Glover in the SMH tries to be satirical.

    As Senator Hanson talked about the long history of white oppression, fragments of memory crowded in.

    There was the way my boater used to cut into my forehead on the way to private school. The way neighbouring kids would pretend to be friendly just so they could use our backyard pool. The dinner parties where my parents would force me to recite Banjo Paterson poems to their friends in the gap between entree and main course.

    And fails.

  55. OldOzzie

    Morrison in mortal fear of a minority after Wentworth by-election

    Dennis Shanahan

    In just 72 hours, Scott Morrison has squeezed Israel, Indonesia, New Zealand, the western suburbs of Sydney, the states of Western Australia and NSW, refugees on Nauru, religious freedom and discrimination against gay students into the mere 38sq km of the Wentworth electorate.

    Appearing dangerously desperate, prone to on-the-spot decisions, politically inept, distracted and divided, facing long-term challenges for short-term gains, the Coalition and the Prime Minister are investing everything in winning the Wentworth by-election on Saturday. Morrison and his colleagues are being told they face defeat in Wentworth and the Liberal leader is making it part of his 11th-hour pitch that a Liberal loss in Malcolm Turnbull’s old seat will mean a minority Coalition government and all the uncertainty that goes with it.

    In Wentworth this week, the government has backflipped on New Zealand’s offer to take refugees off Nauru, moved to stop discrimination against gay students, topped up GST receipts for NSW, prepared to vote against Palestinian chairmanship of a UN committee, and opened the way to follow Donald Trump with an embassy in West Jerusalem.

    There was even an embarrassing about-face over an even more embarrassing endorsement of Pauline Hanson and the language of white supremacists.

    Everything that could appeal to Wentworth is being produced: protection for gay students for the gay vote; support for Israel for the Jewish vote; GST changes for NSW state Liberals and a PNG and Nauru refugee option for NZ for refugee advocates. Not being wanted to be seen to be racist applies more widely than just Wentworth but it does help in the affluent eastern suburbs.

    Morrison tries to deny that all this is about Wentworth but he doesn’t hide his fear of becoming a minority government and just by chance produced an article published in May in The Australian by former ambassador to Israel, Dave Sharma, to back up the sudden decision to announce being “open” to moving the Australian embassy to Jerusalem.

    That Sharma is the Liberal candidate in Wentworth must surely be coincidence.

    Of course, no one is buying Morrison’s dissembling and Labor is correct in charging that he is rushing foreign policy, ditching long-held, hardline policies and making long-term economic changes in the hope of garnering a few (winning) votes on Saturday.

    Diplomatically, the Jerusalem decision is already having effects in Indonesia, as will any sign of weakness on entry bans on those who have used people-smugglers who may end up in New Zealand. The attempts to kill off the hysterical — although self-inflicted — claims of racism and homophobia threaten to simultaneously undermine Coalition support in western Sydney and destroy any sensible debate about religious freedoms.

    Yesterday was the Morrison government’s worst day. Of course, Saturday will be worse if Wentworth is lost despite all the desperate measures. Morrison is reaping what Turnbull has sown.

    From the Comments

    – Scomo’s many on-the-spot decisions smack of the dreaded Captain’s Call. And go to prove – he ain’t no Captain.

    – Where is Morrisons blast on Shortens plan to rip superannuants incomes to shreds by stealing their franking credits ? Where is Turnbulls big push on slowing migration down? . What does he really think about electricity and is he prepared to stand up against the Church of Mythological Global Warming.??
    Hes a Mr Turnbull – Lite and he and his government ain’t going nowhere – except into opposition at the next election.

    – “………dangerously desperate, prone to on-the-spot decisions, politically inept, distracted and divided………..”. One word substitute – PANIC.
    – And incompetence!

    – Hapless and desperate. Own goal after own goal. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.

  56. OldOzzie

    Morrison in mortal fear of a minority after Wentworth by-election

    Dennis Shanahan

    In just 72 hours, Scott Morrison has squeezed Israel, Indonesia, New Zealand, the western suburbs of Sydney, the states of Western Australia and NSW, refugees on Nauru, religious freedom and discrimination against gay students into the mere 38sq km of the Wentworth electorate.

    Appearing dangerously desperate, prone to on-the-spot decisions, politically inept, distracted and divided, facing long-term challenges for short-term gains, the Coalition and the Prime Minister are investing everything in winning the Wentworth by-election on Saturday. Morrison and his colleagues are being told they face defeat in Wentworth and the Liberal leader is making it part of his 11th-hour pitch that a Liberal loss in Malcolm Turnbull’s old seat will mean a minority Coalition government and all the uncertainty that goes with it.

    In Wentworth this week, the government has backflipped on New Zealand’s offer to take refugees off Nauru, moved to stop discrimination against gay students, topped up GST receipts for NSW, prepared to vote against Palestinian chairmanship of a UN committee, and opened the way to follow Donald Trump with an embassy in West Jerusalem.

    There was even an embarrassing about-face over an even more embarrassing endorsement of Pauline Hanson and the language of white supremacists.

    Everything that could appeal to Wentworth is being produced: protection for gay students for the gay vote; support for Israel for the Jewish vote; GST changes for NSW state Liberals and a PNG and Nauru refugee option for NZ for refugee advocates. Not being wanted to be seen to be racist applies more widely than just Wentworth but it does help in the affluent eastern suburbs.

    Morrison tries to deny that all this is about Wentworth but he doesn’t hide his fear of becoming a minority government and just by chance produced an article published in May in The Australian by former ambassador to Israel, Dave Sharma, to back up the sudden decision to announce being “open” to moving the Australian embassy to Jerusalem.

    That Sharma is the Liberal candidate in Wentworth must surely be coincidence.

    Of course, no one is buying Morrison’s dissembling and Labor is correct in charging that he is rushing foreign policy, ditching long-held, hardline policies and making long-term economic changes in the hope of garnering a few (winning) votes on Saturday.

    Diplomatically, the Jerusalem decision is already having effects in Indonesia, as will any sign of weakness on entry bans on those who have used people-smugglers who may end up in New Zealand. The attempts to kill off the hysterical — although self-inflicted — claims of racism and homophobia threaten to simultaneously undermine Coalition support in western Sydney and destroy any sensible debate about religious freedoms.

    Yesterday was the Morrison government’s worst day. Of course, Saturday will be worse if Wentworth is lost despite all the desperate measures. Morrison is reaping what Turnbull has sown.

    From the Comments

    – Scomo’s many on-the-spot decisions smack of the dreaded Captain’s Call. And go to prove – he ain’t no Captain.

    – Where is Morrisons blast on Shortens plan to rip superannuants incomes to shreds by stealing their franking credits ? Where is Turnbulls big push on slowing migration down? . What does he really think about electricity and is he prepared to stand up against the Church of Mythological Global Warming.??
    Hes a Mr Turnbull – Lite and he and his government ain’t going nowhere – except into opposition at the next election.

    – “………dangerously desperate, prone to on-the-spot decisions, politically inept, distracted and divided………..”. One word substitute – PANIC.
    – And incompetence!

    – Hapless and desperate. Own goal after own goal. You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.

  57. OldOzzie

    Ok Oblivion Strikes Twice on this

    Morrison in mortal fear of a minority after Wentworth by-election

    I will give up at this point – Sinclair What goes?

    Are Google, Twiiter, Facebook CEOs running the Blog

  58. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    6h
    “Federal Judge throws out Stormy Danials lawsuit versus Trump. Trump is entitled to full legal fees.”
    @FoxNews
    Great, now I can go after Horseface and her 3rd rate lawyer in the Great State of Texas. She will confirm the letter she signed! She knows nothing about me, a total con!

  59. feelthebern

    WSJ alert.
    If this was a car company not disclosing faulty brakes, the stocks would be down 20%.

    Advertisers Allege Facebook Failed to Disclose Key Metric Error for More Than a Year

    Facebook knew of problems with its video-consumption metrics for more than a year before it disclosed them in 2016, according to a complaint filed by some advertisers.
    In Tuesday’s filing, they alleged Facebook knew of irregularities in its video metrics by January 2015 and understood the nature of the miscalculation within a few months, but failed to disclose the information for over a year.

  60. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Egg, the Ungenerous. When you fall off your wall, Humpty, I’ll leave you to the mercy of all the King’s men. And their horses, of course. And me quite good at mending shattered pots. Too bad for you.

  61. feelthebern

    The problem advertisers have is how do they force fb to refund them?
    Sure they might get a few pennies, but then they’d be on the wrong side of fb.
    Good-bye future ad campaigns.

    Apart from Trump, how does a politician go after fb,
    fb can destroy your on-line universe going into an election.
    Very Orwellian.

  62. feelthebern

    He needs to start calling her:

    Sloppy Stormy Daniels.

    It will stick like Low Energy Jeb.

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Week in pictures special mid week edition had me laughing out loud!

    My favourite was the duck, 1/2024 bald eagle!

    Politicians can withstand and recover from almost anything.
    Becoming a laughing stock is not one of those things.

  64. Death Giraffe

    This thread stinks.
    It should be buried in a bush grave and never spoken of again.
    You should be embarrassed, all of you.

  65. mh

    It should be buried in a bush grave and never spoken of again.

    Ok, what happened to the red-headed midget.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    More lefty head explodying from Trump:

    Trump Administration Considers Using West Coast Military Facilities for Coal & LNG Exports… MAGA!!!

    BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — The Trump administration is considering using West Coast military installations or other federal properties to open the way for more U.S. fossil fuel exports to Asia in the name of national security and despite opposition from coastal states.

    The proposal was described to The Associated Press by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and two Republican lawmakers.

    The howling from left coast greens will be epic!

  67. I am bespoke

    Death Giraffe
    #2841508, posted on October 17, 2018 at 8:24 am

    LOL! not taking the bait. 🙂

  68. That was no red-headed midget, it was one of the wee folk.
    They emit foul odours to keep you from following them and finding their pot of gold.
    Monty would’ve been onto it in a flash.

  69. Top Ender

    Victorian Labor MPs caught up in a “rorts-for-votes” scheme during the party’s 2014 election campaign have been called in for questioning by police.

    The move follows police raids in August on former Labor campaign staff.

    The Herald Sun reports today that over the past two days detectives from the fraud squad have asked MPs to go in for questioning, though it is not known how many of the 21 MPs implicated in the scheme, including six ministers, have been contacted so far.

    The scheme involved Labor MPs directing taxpayer-funded employees to work on the party’s 2014 election doorknocking campaign.

    The move comes just six weeks before the November 24 state election.

    Oz link

  70. Percy Popinjay

    OldOzzie
    #2841500, posted on October 17, 2018 at 8:05 am

    Do not attempt to directly copy text from the Oz into the comments box here as it will go straight into moderation.

    Copy and paste as plain text into a word document (or clipboard), then paste the text here and then edit. Hit post and the comment should then get straight through.

  71. Geriatric Mayfly

    An apology. Yesterday I drew attention to tropical rainforests and their potential to harbour unknown organisms which may prove harmful to humans, citing Ebola and Marburg as two that have already emerged. The greater threat, it appears, is in an environment poles apart from the steamy equatorial jungles.
    Global warming could re-awaken ancient diseases and even the Black Death, according to an Oxford University professor.Higher global temperatures would melt ice sheets that store long-buried bacteria, which could spread disease and potentially cause new global pandemics. Fox.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I admire Cassie for personally confronting on the hustings Kerryn Phelps, who is making a green left run in Wentworth. Apparently Cassie asked her why she was accepting funding from Get Up, known far leftists anti-semites. Phelps had no answer.

  73. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Most populations alive today would have some genetic resistance already to previous runaway pandemic bacteria (viruses less so) and they are also immeasurably more well-nourished, which is half of the battle.

    Unless they are vegans. They might be in nutritional difficulties. Their children especially so.

  74. OldOzzie

    Percy Popinjay
    #2841514, posted on October 17, 2018 at 8:41 am

    OldOzzie
    #2841500, posted on October 17, 2018 at 8:05 am

    Do not attempt to directly copy text from the Oz into the comments box here as it will go straight into moderation.

    Copy and paste as plain text into a word document (or clipboard), then paste the text here and then edit. Hit post and the comment should then get straight through.

    Percy

    Thanks for that – will try next week when I get home, as am on Daughter’s PC at the moment and she likes me not to change things on her PC

  75. calli

    Is this thread still trundling along?

    I’ve been to see four Presidents and a portion of an Indian and walked through Keystone since my last observation.

    I’m sure Teddy winked at me. He has a naughty look about him.

  76. Percy Popinjay

    Phelps, who is making a green left run in Wentworth

    The Oz is claiming that Phelps is a shoo-in on Saturday.

    Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

  77. Up The Workers!

    Congratulations to U.S. Lefty Senator Elizabeth Warren who just released her DNA test results conclusively proving that she is 1,023/1,024 ths’ NOT Cherokee Indian.

    If her intention was to put the Cherokee vote “in the bag”, then like that other famous intellectual Dimocrat Party spokes-tart, Soggy Daniels (moonlighting from her regular brothel-job), I think that she might have just shot herself in the cash register.

    Oh well, Leftys have never been known for their sparkling numeracy skills – just look at the Labor(sic) Party’s former “World’s Best Treasurer”, Wayne Swan, who once famously said: “There are three types of people on this planet…those who Can count and those who Cannot!”

    By the way, her DNA might prove that she has bugger-all relationship with Cherokee Indians, but has anybody noticed the striking similarity with the A.L.P.’s former moon-bat, goose-stepping Fuhrer of the Human Wrongs Commission and keeper/trainer of Souppossumstains; the fearsome lefty Triggster?

    Identical Siamese twins separated at the brain-cell perhaps? I reckon that a DNA test could possibly show that the Triggster also had bugger-all connection with Cherokee Indians, too.

    Spooky, huh?

  78. .

    Ex-MP faces court on fake CV charges

    Great, now what about Martin Parkinson purporting to be an economist?

  79. struth

    Good Moaning.

    The Church of Government, and all the govologists are running around trying to stop the End of the world by heathens of other religions.
    His Holiness, Grand Poobah of the Socialist Church of control, Antonio Gutturres, has called on a holy war against those with freedom and a love of electricity in their hearts.
    His loyal followers are doing all they can, counting cow farts and proclaiming any weather that is not a perfect cloud free day and a still 23 degrees, as an “event” orchestrated by the devil himself, Donald Trump……………………..
    For those that have gone down on bended knee for the Church of Communist Kinship and Societies or COCKS, (as acronyms are very popular in the religion) have found they produce God like carbon, free of any catastrophic climate outcomes and also that their cows farts are as pure as the driven snow.
    They sniff them with confidence and a smile on their faces.

    Repent sinners and make your forced donations to the Socialist Church of Control.
    Your western ways are wicked if used by you, and only the pure of programmed shall inherit the earth.

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Clarification required.
    Who is “horseface”?
    Stormy?
    Liarwatha?
    Shillary?
    Who?
    I can’t tell.

  81. stackja

    Wentworth, KP is the real ALP candidate.

  82. John Constantine

    Trouble is a lot of Australia’s leftist wymynsys don’t do fractions.

    Through their medicated abc fog, they just hear that Warren is thousands of Indian, and thousands is big, so Trump is hated even more for making them feel belittled.

    Comrades.

  83. Anthony

    According to Turkey, it has audio and video proof of the murder of Kashoggi in the Saudi embassy. Is that an admission of spying on the Saudis?

  84. Nob

    more U.S. fossil fuel exports to Asia

    Cheaper LNG than Australia, right into Australia’s target market.

    Until now, California greenies have prevented this, thus helping Australian gas exports.

  85. struth

    Trouble is a lot of Australia’s leftist wymynsys don’t do fractions.

    The old doctor’s wives and various female parasites in Wentworth, bitter about getting older, with silk scarves and bob haircuts, red Rimmed rectangle glasses, too much make up and a glass of bubbly firmly in their grasp, yet with too much time on their hands, found in large numbers in Air conditioned art galleries admiring dots painted on bark and canvas when other old doctor’s wives are watching, will vote Liberal???

    Who knew?

  86. struth

    These are the same people that turned their back on PM John Howard while he gave a speech at the opera house, in a mass virtue signalling group think.

  87. Boambee John

    From Michael Walsh, PJ Media, via Instapundit

    Merkelism — pretending to be “conservative” while moving steadily to the left — has now been exposed for the fraud it always was. The German voters have spoken — will the politicians in Berlin heed the warning? A factionalized Germany is an unstable Germany, but if past is prologue, probably not.

    And there was I thinking the name was “Turdba l l ism”! But will Australian voters follow the German lead?

  88. .

    struth
    #2841535, posted on October 17, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Trouble is a lot of Australia’s leftist wymynsys don’t do fractions.

    The old doctor’s wives and various female parasites in Wentworth, bitter about getting older, with silk scarves and bob haircuts, red Rimmed rectangle glasses, too much make up and a glass of bubbly firmly in their grasp, yet with too much time on their hands, found in large numbers in Air conditioned art galleries admiring dots painted on bark and canvas when other old doctor’s wives are watching, will vote Liberal???

    Who knew?

    LOL

    They’re called “Cool Wine Aunts” and the meme has been virtually banned by SJW Reddit.

    Most Cool Wine Aunts are NPCs.

  89. Dot, you asked me a while back if my prescription was for never, always, or only before n weeks for some n, in respect of abortion.

    I don’t have a prescription at all. Unlike so many here, I do not get my rocks off telling others how to live their lives. I don’t feel qualified.

    If it were my offspring involved, I’d be strongly prejudiced against an abortion at all. If it were somebody else’s I’m available for thoughts on the subject only if I know all the circumstances well. If I don’t, I’d prefer to mind my own business.

    I seem to lack the busybody gene. I hope you all feel sorry for my suffering this defect.

    It’s very instructive to find you, finally, providing a ‘pro-choice’ defense of abortion with all its manifest defects. If the question of whether or not the child in utero is afforded the protection of the law depends upon unspecified circumstances, then the same would be true of the child postpartum. Which means that many of the same reasons advanced in favour of abortion of the child in utero can also be licitly advanced postpartum. And you advance that manifestly silly argument under the cloak of both a claim to moral and intellectual modesty. This is indeed a cloak because, in respect of the former, it is not simply a matter of respecting the moral rights of other people if they intend to deliberately act in a way that threatens the life of a third party. Nor is it a matter of intellectual modesty to prescind on the matter of the moral status of the child in utero given what is at stake.

  90. .

    I took that as an “I don’t know” Dover, and credit to someone when they say so, rather than justify something on the spot.

  91. .

    New thread, please. This is a stinker.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Honest question.
    What did Liarwatha expect to happen out of the DNA report?
    This is an illustration of the Washington bubble.
    In her mind it was to go like this …
    – report released;
    – nobody reads the fine print;
    – the MSM declares her vindicated …”DNA proves Warren has Indian Heritage”;
    – any dissenting, questioning voices are howled down as racist old white men;
    – even Cherokee leaders, dependant as they are on swamp-funding, decide to STFU.
    – Trump resigns in shame.
    .
    She’s a moron.

  93. Roger

    Who knew?

    They certainly voted for Maladroit.

  94. The ladies of Wentworth can do as they please in their own crystal fishbowl but they don’t stop there.
    They’d like to dictate what I do with my livestock, pesticides, crops, water and land.
    They sympathise with farmers but only in a patronising and superior manner.
    Piss off Phelps!

  95. .

    – even Cherokee leaders, dependant as they are on swamp-funding

    That really shouldn’t be. How am I going to identify as Chief Skimsalot du Tableaux?

  96. H B Bear

    Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

    Finally the people of NSW get to vote for a real old lesbian instead of one of Photios’ phony Lieboral homos.

  97. Rae

    None #2841418, posted on October 17, 2018 at 1:50 am

    I am not Bird.

    Correct.

  98. John Constantine

    Japanese weather model has come out and said that south east australia will see an indian ocean supply better than average rainfall this summer.
    [ too late for spring]

    Australian state model says pacific ocean enso means dry summer, angry summer, climate change summer.

    Will the australian subsidy model provide propaganda for money over accuracy?.

    Or is the tone and vibe of the press releases for city voters more important than business predictions for agriculture?

    Comrades

  99. Cassie of Sydney

    “H B Bear
    #2841556, posted on October 17, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Phelps is set for victory over the Morrison government in the Wentworth by-election this Saturday, as Liberal Party polling shows the former Australian Medical Association president ahead of Liberal candidate Dave Sharma 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

    Finally the people of NSW get to vote for a real old lesbian instead of one of Photios’ phony Lieboral homos.”

    I am very skeptical of this “poll”. I think that the Libs are pushing this to scare people.

  100. John Constantine

    Their brand of ‘abc endorsed, soros/get-up funded’ conservative independant is a massive win for Stalin in once were tory electorates.

    Once again the treachery and rat cunning of shorten can be seen in the way he progressed get-up as a deniable source of funding for bastardry, outside the legal labor funding pathways.

    Why run a labor candidate, when the abc will do campaign media for free and the same volunteers will do the same work for the conservative Stalinist ?.

    Comrades.

  101. candy

    Perhaps the good burghers of Wentworth being people well established in the world and well set up, would prefer Ms Phelps as a kind of exotic representative to have at parties and events.

    Not having particular worries about the health system or public transport, power bills, and so on. It makes them look frivolous though, if they vote in a person just because of being lesbian and talking climate change all day long.

  102. .

    So let’s talk Trump and the judiciary?

    What are Judging Amy and BK’s positions on Kelo, Wickard v Filburn, Roe v Wade and Rummel v. Estelle?

  103. candy

    “Horseface” is retaliation for the comments by Stormy about Donald Trump’s private parts.
    Well, who can blame him.

  104. thefrollickingmole

    m0nty
    #2841284, posted on October 16, 2018 at 10:54 pm
    The plan is to manage the infections more aggressively, next time I go straight on the strong antibiotics through IV rather than just pills.

    Monst if its not TMI are you one of these unlucky buggers who harbors Staph in their body somewhere (nose being the usual reserve)?

    https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2013/12/staph-can-lurk-deep-within-nose-study-finds.html

    If so is there any regimen they can stick you on to reduce the likelihood of outbreaks?

  105. struth

    Not having particular worries about the health system or public transport, power bills, and so on. It makes them look frivolous though, if they vote in a person just because of being lesbian and talking climate change all day long.

    Go figure.

    It makes them look frivolous though

    Not inside their own bubble.

    And they never venture out of it.

  106. I took that as an “I don’t know” Dover, and credit to someone when they say so, rather than justify something on the spot.

    Really? the problem with an ‘I don’t know’ is that it carries through postpartum and never stops.

  107. struth

    “Horseface” is retaliation for the comments by Stormy about Donald Trump’s private parts.
    Well, who can blame him.

    Good point.

    Maybe he should have called her old beef curtains.
    It’s about the same low level as she has stooped to.

    Unfortunately, hers have been on show to the whole world, so no one needs to know.

  108. H B Bear

    Old beef curtains would be a good name for a county and western band.

  109. max

    Phelps is now on $1.90. Down from $2.40 last week.

  110. H B Bear

    I am very skeptical of this “poll”. I think that the Libs are pushing this to scare people.

    We’ll see. Scare people – into what voting Lieboral? It’s a by-election which is nothing more than the opportunity to give the government a decent kick. Even if they go into minority government the Lieborals will still be assured of supply for six months. The problem with “independents” is once they take a seat they are much harder to dislodge.

  111. Tintarella di Luna

    I am very skeptical of this “poll”. I think that the Libs are pushing this to scare people.

    #MeToo Cassie

  112. Entropy

    John Constantine
    #2841561, posted on October 17, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Japanese weather model has come out and said that south east australia will see an indian ocean supply better than average rainfall this summer.
    [ too late for spring]

    I wouldn’t get too excited, John.
    All that has happened is a cyclone in the Arabian Sea has hung around like a bad smell and dropped water temperatures there, so the Indian Ocean Dipole has declined from a very positive index to more neutral conditions. Problem is it is a relative measure and the Japanese aren’t picking up the Affura sea temperatures are still below average. A model output not worth much in other words.
    Meanwhile there is a heap of subsurface water in the equatorial pacific that is yet to rise to the surface, and the coral sea is cool. So things don’t bode well for the rest of spring and summer.
    The recent SEQ/NNSW rain has just been the result of some troughs interacting with a patch of above average water off the coast. It has sucked the heat out and it probably has at best another week to run before it all goes away.

  113. None

    Phelps has preferenced the Libs. She’s hoping that will give her some extra votes from the uninformed so she can sneak into second place behind Sharma on first preferences and then fall across the line with Labor preferences. Move over Lib homo Boyz. The lesbians really are the Queens of Sydney.

  114. calli

    Rapid City trivia – all the downtown corners are occupied by life size bronzes of the Presidents. Some of them are rather wonderful in their likeness.

    As we were traversing from corner to corner checking them out, I noticed a large building with an immense billboard. It read “Presidential Pawn”.

    You guessed it. Underneath the sign was Bill Clinton.

    Naturally, I took a photo.

  115. Entropy

    Candy has it sussed regarding the great and good of Wentworth.

    Of course, maybe some people are voting for the identity politician in the vain hope of destroying the lieborals

  116. calli

    I’ve had my arm around three of my favourites today.

    Teddy, John A. and a laughing Gipper in his cowboy hat.

    The Beloved got a very sombre George Washington.

  117. Cassie of Sydney

    The Liberal party, if they lose Wentworth, will have only themselves to blame. The deterioration and decline of the party probably goes back a long way (to 2007 and perhaps even earlier) however the rot really set in when that despicable “Turd” stabbed Abbott in the back in September 2015 (and I am not absolving Abbott of his failures). The party is NO longer conservative, NO longer liberal and NOT even remotely libertarian. The party and its strategists refuse to play tough, refuse to play dirty and even refuse to fight the left on anything…witness yesterday’s backtracking debacle on “it’s okay to be white”….they constantly wave the white flat….look at the religious freedom issue over the last few days as well. The party is utterly pathetic. Shorten and Labor are laughing all the way to the bank. And ScoMo? He is just SloMo….a more likable and larrakin fellow than that elitist and despicable turd but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles. An example of the Liberal party’s pathetic acquiescence and surrender to the left is that the party, in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm alert), has preferenced KAP and the ALA, both great supporters of Isr*el and the J*wish community, last on the ballot paper…yes even behind Phelps and the Greens (a party known for its great love of Isr*el and J*ws…another sarcasm alert! Way to go Liberals. Yep, that’s the Liberal party in 2018. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

  118. None

    I think this poll is reflecting the reality that Phelps is ahead, not on primaries but as I say, on preferences. That’s why Sharma has been urging against the protest vote by saying if you want a liberal you have to vote a liberal. I’ve seen him interview two or three times now and he has failed to impress – umming and ahhing and absolutely no punch or cut through. If that is what anyone from Chris Kenny in the media to John Howard think is a stellar candidate I’d hate to think what a bad one looks like.

  119. Mak Siccar

    Another excellent article in Quadrant Online by the articulate Professor who should be encouraged to blog here from time to time.

    JAMES ALLAN

    Slow-Mo ScoMo Just So-So

    The new PM can drink a beer without any apparent discomfort at finding himself surrounded by garden-variety Australians, which I suppose is a plus.But on Paris, submarines, free speech, reforming universities and winning back the base he’s no better than Turnbull-lite

    liberal doormatSo what kind of a scorecard would you give the new Morrison government? Well, if the question asked were ‘Is Morrison better than Turnbull?’ then I’d give a resounding ‘yes’. Of course I’m pretty sure you could throw a dart at the phonebook, read out the name, and I’d likely give the same answer. Still, that’s something. Is it enough, though, to spur long-time Liberal voters to give money to this Morrison incarnation of a Coalition government? Is it enough to spur volunteers on election day? Is it enough to inspire you to preference them first, rather than just to put them ahead of Labor somewhere down ticket and thereby stop the Liberals from getting a share of the rivers of taxpayer gold that flow to first-preference vote recipients?

    Well, so far it’s hard to think of anything much Morrison has done that differentiates his government from the Turnbull one. Okay, they’ve ditched the NEG, but Turnbull had already sold that pass. All we’ve seen so far is that Sco-Mo is more at home in a pub than Turnbull was and that the new PM has more down-to-earth instincts than his predecessor. That’s not nothing. But it’s pretty darn close to nothing. Meantime Morrison can’t say the obvious, that Turnbull had to go because he was the most left-leaning Liberal PM ever and had lost almost 40 Newspolls in a row – way more that Tony Abbott, and Abbott was PM when these polls were conducted every fortnight come what may. Turnbull had the hidden benefit of the frequency of the polling being slowed big time. In other words, Team Malcolm was behind for a lot longer than Team Tony ever was. If you don’t like that criterion, remember that it was the one Malcolm himself offered up for plotting against and defenestrating a first-term PM who had delivered a massive majority. As ye sow, so shall ye reap — that’s how they used to put these things

    Okay, so what about actual policy differences between the Turnbull incarnation and the new Sco-Mo embodiment of the Libs? Well, like Turnbull, Morrison won’t pull out of Paris. ‘Why not?’ I ask. So far we have no answer except that Morrison says Australia made a promise. (He leaves out that Australia ratified this treaty after Trump had won and had made clear that the US would not sign up to Paris; in other words, when a more or less empty and unenforceable virtue-signalling concoction of a treaty became a patently dead one.) But that’s one of the dumber answers ever. What did John Maynard Keynes once say? Something along the lines of ‘when the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir?’. Apparently Team Sco-Mo thinks having once said ‘yes’ that’s it for eternity, or at least for some unknown period of time.

    At any rate, there is thus far no difference at all between Morrison and Turnbull on the Paris Accords. There is, however, more focus by the new PM on energy prices. And he has put in as Energy Minister someone who might get them down a bit. But let’s be honest, as long as we live with masses of subsidies for renewables this country is going to have some of the highest electricity prices in the democratic world. There is only so much strong-arming of electricity companies a government can do. In the end these corporations are merely responding to the incentives our useless political class has laid down.

    Okay, that’s energy prices covered. What about some other inherited snafus — that awful half-billion dollars, for instance, thrown at some Barrier Reef Group which hadn’t even asked for it? Is that being taken back? Nope.

    What about the egregious raids on superannuation that was perpetrated on one of the core Liberal Party support groups? Is this new government going to wind those back? Nope. Well, is it at least going to apologise for attacking our superannuation, not to mention for making it much easier for Labor to do so in the future? Any mea culpas coming our way? Nope. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

    What about free speech? Lord knows there seem to be more and more inroads being made into what Australians are allowed to say. If you’re conservative and book a speaker the radical left doesn’t like, and threatens to protest, the police who are supposed to protect us all will send you – the conservatives – the bill. The protesters pay nothing. Is Team Morrison pledged to do something about that? Nope. Well, is it going to re-open the fight to repeal or at least massively to wind back our s.18C “hate speech” laws, the ones used so insidiously against Bill Leak and the QUT students? Nope. Free speech, what the Americans think is so vital to a democracy that enshrined it in their very first Amendment. Not important, apparently.

    Okay, going to take on the incredibly PC universities then? Nope. What about the ABC and its board? No, no, no, no. In fact Morrison continued in the Turnbull tradition of appointing non-conservatives to the acting vacancy.

    Well, at least this Sco-Mo crowd will cut immigration, right? Surely they’ll do that. Sorry. Another ‘nope’ there too.

    You can keep going down the list of things any right-of-centre person might expect, or at least hope, that a nominally conservative government would do. And you’ll find that this Team Morrison has yet to signal any intention of doing them. So far it’s much more of a Turnbull-looking outfit than it is an Abbott-looking one. I suppose that’s not surprising, given that Morrison was one of the 40 Liberal MPs who voted for Malcolm on the first spill – after Turnbull had breached every convention going to drag out the timeline and poison the Peter Dutton attack.

    Personally, I think a Dutton government would have been a much better choice for the Libs. Sure, Dutton’s no glib ex-ad man who is superb at selling himself. But on the other hand he appears to be someone with a few core beliefs (by which I mean right-of-centre beliefs). Call me crazy but I’m pretty sure Dutton would not have put Pyne, Payne, Birmingham and O’Dwyer into top Cabinet jobs, that quartet being the most useless and left-leaning MPs in the Liberal party room.

    But getting back to Team Sco-Mo, perhaps most charitably described as Team Slow-Mo, despite all of the above you can’t deny that it’s better than Team Turnbull. Is it enough better to win back my vote at the next election? (Confession: In 2016 I preferenced Labor ahead of the Libs because I believed – and still believe – that in the long-term it would have been better for the Libs under Turnbull to lose, such was the lefty-loony uselessness of Team Turnbull.) Well. I suppose it is enough better, just, to get me unenthusiastically to put the Libs ahead of Labor.

    But I won’t be giving the Libs my first preference. I don’t think they deserve the taxpayer money that goes with a first-preference vote. Nor will I give the Libs any money. Nor will I work for them before or during the election. Basically this is still a very sick political party. It’s chock full of MPs and operatives who are most honestly described as big-spending, social justice warrior types – Labor-lites – who have no obvious affinity for small government, free speech, proper defence spending (I forgot the horrible submarine deal, which Morrison also stands by), low tax or most of the other things I care about.

    But it’s better than Team Turnbull, I give you that. Mind you, a drawer full of turnips could also claim that distinction.

  120. calli

    I understand Sharma is a very clever man.

    One of the problems with intelligence and thoughtfulness rather than rat cunning is an inability to connect with people at all levels.

    These days a smooth talking mummer will trump anyone of substance.

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    The Liberal party, if they lose Wentworth, will have only themselves to blame. The deterioration and decline of the party probably goes back a long way (to 2007 and perhaps even earlier) however the rot really set in when that despicable “Malturd” stabbed Abbott in the back in September 2015 (and I am not absolving Abbott of his failures). The party is NO longer conservative, NO longer liberal and NOT even remotely libertarian. The party and its strategists refuse to play tough, refuse to play dirty and even refuse to fight the left on anything…witness yesterday’s backtracking debacle on “it’s okay to be white”….they constantly wave the white flat….look at the religious freedom issue over the last few days as well. The party is utterly pathetic. Shorten and Labor are laughing all the way to the bank. And ScoMo? He is just SloMo….a more likable and larrakin fellow than that elitist and despicable turd but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles. An example of the Liberal party’s pathetic acquiescence and surrender to the left is that the party, in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm alert), has preferenced KAP and the ALA, both great supporters of I*r*el and the Choowish community, last on the ballot paper…yes even behind Phelps and the Greens (a party known not for its great love of I*r*el and Choowish community. Way to go Liberals. Yep, that’s the Liberal party in 2018. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

  122. Geriatric Mayfly

    Monst if its not TMI are you one of these unlucky buggers who harbors Staph in their body somewhere (nose being the usual reserve)?

    Rumour has it that staphs are natural passengers on the skin surface. The horror! As alluded to above it’s when they get past the mucal and other defences, that they begin to cause trouble.

  123. Cassie of Sydney

    The Liberal party, if they lose Wentworth, will have only themselves to blame. The deterioration and decline of the party probably goes back a long way (to 2007 and perhaps even earlier) however the rot really set in when that despicable “Malturd” stabbed Abbott in the back in September 2015 (and I am not absolving Abbott of his failures). The party is NO longer conservative, NO longer liberal and NOT even remotely libertarian. The party and its strategists refuse to play tough, refuse to play dirty and even refuse to fight the left on anything…witness yesterday’s backtracking debacle on “it’s okay to be white”….they constantly wave the white flat….look at the religious freedom issue over the last few days as well. The party is utterly pathetic. Shorten and Labor are laughing all the way to the bank. And ScoMo? He is just SloMo….a more likable and larrakin fellow than that elitist and despicable turd but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles. An example of the Liberal party’s pathetic acquiescence and surrender to the left is that the party, in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm alert), has preferenced KAP and the ALA, yes even behind Phelps and the Greens. Way to go Liberals. Yep, that’s the Liberal party in 2018. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

  124. calli

    and even refuse to fight

    Since I’m in the US…

    They are McClellands not Shermans (or Grants).

    Bound to lose.

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    My comment keeps on going into moderation….

    The Liberal party, if they lose Wentworth, will have only themselves to blame. The deterioration and decline of the party probably goes back a long way (to 2007 and perhaps even earlier) however the rot really set in when that despicable Turnbull stabbed Abbott in the back in September 2015 (and I am not absolving Abbott of his failures). The party is NO longer conservative, NO longer liberal and NOT even remotely libertarian. The party and its strategists refuse to play tough, refuse to play dirty and even refuse to fight the left on anything…witness yesterday’s backtracking debacle on “it’s okay to be white”….they constantly wave the white flat….look at the religious freedom issue over the last few days as well. The party is utterly pathetic. Shorten and Labor are laughing all the way to the bank. And ScoMo? He is just SloMo….a more likable and larrakin fellow than that elitist and despicable turd but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles. An example of the Liberal party’s pathetic acquiescence and surrender to the left is that the party, in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm alert), has preferenced KAP and the ALA, yes even behind Phelps and the Greens. Way to go Liberals. Yep, that’s the Liberal party in 2018. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

  126. Cassie of Sydney

    Fellow Cats, sorry for reposting the same comment however my comment kept on going into moderation!

  127. None

    Can’t disagree with your assessment Cassie. The Lives will lose Wentworth they will Lucia on preferences and they will loser on stupid preference seen on their part as well. I’m not too sure if outfits like the KAP or ALA will attract many votes in a seat like Wentworth but let’s just say it’s the optics that count.

  128. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    Simples. At the election results arrrive, SMIRK.

  129. Delta A

    Cassie of Sydney
    #2841584, posted on October 17, 2018 at 10:44 am

    An excellent summary, Cassie.

    My thoughts exactly.

  130. John Constantine

    Working for a living means i missed the run in SUD suda this morning, it doubled on headology more than anything else. Recently raised capital for survival, but has hopes for a medical marijuana delivery system that is smokefree.

    Is the listed aussie biohope sector the last gasp for the speculator in this cycle?

    If the sell order goes through, it will recycle the risk capital and leave the free carry long dated opppies for luck.

  131. Delta A

    Fellow Cats, sorry for reposting the same comment however my comment kept on going into moderation!

    Apparently, moderation doesn’t like commenters showing ‘ba lls’.

  132. .

    Wow, the spambot does not like Tony Montana.

  133. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    An excellent summary, Cassie.

    +1

  134. None

    Sharma might be intelligent and thoughtful but when you run around espousing action on climate change and then go on TV unable to articulate a position on anything else you’re not gonna win anything. Most people don’t pay attention to elections until the last week or so before the vote. I don’t know what the deal is now but only a federal election or two ago the majority of people werr still getting their political information from the nightly *TV news* and if things remain the same then every bit of media attention you get counts.

    The Libs will lose Wentworth. Labor may not want to destabilize the government so close to Christmas if that eventuates but we will be having an election sooner rather than later. If the liberals lose Wentworth and I kind of hope they do then Morris is best strategy is to go gloves off even against his own f*** with it pants sweaters. However I don’t think he has it in him because he’s beholden to the left faction for his leadership andPyne shadows him at every turn. He’s really just a puppet.

  135. calli

    ⚽️s, 🏀s, 🏐s, 🏉s, 🏈s, ⚾️s, 🎾s, 🎱s

    Take that, Spaminator!

  136. Cassie of Sydney

    “Delta A
    #2841606, posted on October 17, 2018 at 11:01 am
    Fellow Cats, sorry for reposting the same comment however my comment kept on going into moderation!

    Apparently, moderation doesn’t like commenters showing ‘ba lls’.”

    Yes, that must have been it! Thanks Delta A. From now on I will write “bawls”

  137. JC

    None

    Sharma isn’t running in a typical middle class seat. He’s a candidate in a seat filled with poofs and over the hill, doctors’ wives (same thing)

  138. Shirley, lib MPs are going to look at the low 30s primary vote and realize that the chances of the libs ever winning a federal election again, are, approximately zero*.

    Do they have no sense of self preservation?

    * coupled with a slathering in QLD

  139. calli

    Even the loss of Wentworth won’t make them change.

    They are capitulators almost to a man.

    They will wag their tails and want a pat. And then wonder why they’re left tied to a post as the electorate sails away.

  140. calli

    I prefer brawls, but that’s just me.

  141. .

    BTC was being used as a currency, no need for banks and only had two technical problems to solve before it was a complete project.

    Now it is being regulated out of existence or banks are breaching the rules on abuse of market power whilst the government sits idly by.

    As soon as it is pummeled and the exchanges go broke, the banks will find a new interest in cryptos.

    The level of scammers in this stuff is alarming though. Quite a few of them aren’t scammers either, but rather are incompetent.

  142. None

    Here’s some other optics. By the time Harry and Meghan get to Queensland the Queensland Parliament will probably voted to kill babies. Now I know both Harry and Megan are screaming lefties but I would really love it if some reporter with Gomez ask pregnant Megan if as a big feministe sister she’s proud of Queensland decriminalisation of abortion. Those are optics I really want to see.

  143. nuts
    jewels
    cobblers
    bollocks

    Some alternatives

  144. None

    Here’s some other optics. By the time Harry and Meghan get to Queensland the Queensland Parliament will probably have voted to kill babies. Now I know both Harry and Megan are screaming lefties but I would really love it if some reporter with gonads askedpregnant Megan if, as a big feminista sister, she’s proud of Queensland’s decriminalisation of abortion. Those are optics I really want to see.

  145. n uts
    je wels
    co bblers
    bol locks

    Some alternatives are also banned.

    Are we discriminating against males?

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Crossbenchers rule out supply guarantee

    Tasmanian independent Andrew Wilkie and Greens MP Adam Bandt have ruled out any guarantee to provide confidence and ­supply if the Morrison government loses the weekend’s Wentworth by-election.

    Centre Alliance MP Rebekha Sharkie — one of the six lower house crossbenchers — told The Australian she was reserving her position on confidence and supply and would consult with colleagues if the Liberals lost the seat vacated by Malcolm Turnbull.

    From the Oz. My, my, we are feeling important, aren’t we?

  147. struth

    Another excellent article in Quadrant Online by the articulate Professor who should be encouraged to blog here from time to time.

    I agree, but he’d be no benefit to us.
    He’s a bit behind the eight ball, for the cat, isn’t he?
    Although a very long statement, he isn’t completely correct.

    I have been making the same observations but whereas this professor thinks Sco Morbull is better than Turnbull, I say that he isn’t.
    The good professor can only quote the reasons he is better is because he can drink a beer, and looks more relaxed around the great unwashed.

    Really?

    So a salesman selling exactly the same product as Turnbull uses a different tactic that may see a few compulsory voting dunderheads buy it, is seen as a good thing?
    Better than Turnbull?

    FMD.

    Real deep thinkers are our academics.
    However, he’s nearly there, come on , you can do it Professor……………………..
    Let’s have some real analysis, not just the basic observations every conservative, right wing voter can already see.

    As it is with Donald Trump, the average Joes of this world have been trying to teach our elites for years.
    Talk about slow bloody learners.
    But good on him for having a crack, but I actually give him a B minus for this.

    The missed opportunity to call the beer drinking, blokey chummy bullshit out for what it is, the rampant hypocrisy of this guy calling himself a Christian, was a lost opportunity, therefore, unfortunately another waffle I have to mark down.

    But he gets the encouragement award.

  148. None

    Sharky was a liberal staffer wasn’t she and she’s not on a huge margin. Shell probably go liberals to save her own ass unless she was planning not to contest next election.

  149. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #2841621, posted on October 17, 2018 at 11:10 am
    I prefer brawls, but that’s just me.”

    Yes, “brawls” is better. Thanks Calli.

  150. .

    JC

    People have scammed on stocks and property.

    I don’t think Messrs. Kaye and Madoff mean that property and stocks are forever boned.

    Crypto is different. The amount of backslapping “prosperity gospel” spruikers is alarming, I agree.

    History may record this wrongly. BTC did not fail, and it has not failed yet. Only a year ago it was being used as a currency. No funny money. Market values and no QE or Zimbabwean Wheelbarrows (Code: ZWB).

    There is a tacit or not so tacit conspiracy to fuck its shit up. The confluence of stupid leftists, technophobes, gold bugs, fiat lovers, government lovers and hypocritical banksters.

    The banks aren’t afraid of getting into digital currencies, but rather new rival banking firms emerging from the crypto world.

    Last time I looked, TenX was a good product, and if CoinJar wasn’t being smacked around by the ATO, the banking cartel, RBA, AusTrac and Treasury, it would be too.

    Only the off chain transactions, block processing speed and the issue of forking being a major PITA remained as issues.

    If the price remained high (by not steamrolling the exchanges and wallet providers), then BTC and its competitors could have gotten better and better. XRP is the real deal; but it should be asked why banks are treating XRP preferentially.

  151. calli

    Nice segue, rambler.

    Bodyline it is.

    Except all the conservatives bowl underarm.

  152. None

    Gonads cojones αρχίδια … even scrote works.

  153. Leigh Lowe

    I think the bawls word might have been banned after IT invited Googlery several times to minister oral attention to his plums.

  154. struth

    but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles

    How did Calli get her balls through the moderator?

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tailgunner
    #2841150, posted on October 16, 2018 at 8:24 pm
    Stimpson!
    I saw you drop in earlier. Excellent.
    I was nearly in the Stimpy=Monty.Confirmed! camp…

    This is an disgusting slur.
    Which degenerate Boomer came up with this theory?
    Just outrageous.

  156. struth

    but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks balls and principles

    How did calli get her b a l l s through moderation?

  157. struth

    but I suspect that Morrison himself also lacks b a lls and principles

    How did calli get her b a l l s through moderation?
    I had to juggle her b a l ls around IN HER QUOTE?
    I went through hell last night trying to get my b a l l s up on the screen.

  158. Dr. Stimpy, you should not leave your patients unattended for such long periods.

  159. None

    Thanks for the edifying image, Leigh.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    Ah, voice ‘recognition’ software.

    Is there anything it can’t render utterly incomprehensible?

  161. struth

    Has Testes commandeered the moderators chair?

    I refuse to use Testes.

    I would like to see Slo Mo show some testes?

    For god sake, that’s not what I want.

    I would like to see Slo Mo show some nuts?
    That either.

    I want Cory Bernardi to show some swingers and fight?

    No, It specifically needs to be the word B A L L S.

    How much more of our freedom can they take once they have our b a l l s

  162. Ivan Denisovich

    Now I know both Harry and Megan are screaming lefties but I would really love it if some reporter with gonads askedpregnant Megan if, as a big feminista sister, she’s proud of Queensland’s decriminalisation of abortion. Those are optics I really want to see.

    Are our reporters less censorial about abortion than the American ones?

    I first reported on this real-life horror story nearly eight years ago, but you’ve probably not heard or read a word about “Gosnell” in the mainstream press, TV news or online. The conspiracy of silence is the result of both malign neglect and active suppression of inconvenient truths:

    –One CNN commentator flippantly explained that the network’s lack of interest was a “business decision,” not bias.

    –Pro-abortion censors at crowdsourcing giant Kickstarter banned McAleer and McElhinney from raising money for the project — leading small donors across the country to help conduct the largest-ever crowdfunded movie on Indiegogo. (Full disclosure: I put my money where my principles are and donated three times, in addition to using my social media platforms to lend a hand.)

    –Taxpayer-supported National Public Radio refused to run sponsored ads describing Gosnell as an “abortionist” because its legal department determined the accurate description violated the left-leaning network’s “value neutral” platform. LOL.

    –And this past week, Facebook banned advertising for the movie — a continuation of its systemic crackdown on conservative speech.

    What are they trying to hide?

    Philadelphia abortion practitioner Kermit Gosnell is behind bars, serving three consecutive life sentences for a murderous crime spree that places him in the same infamous pantheon of homicidal maniacs as Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy. But because his victims were hundreds of poor minority women and their children, Hollywood, women’s groups and the media — who usually never hesitate to sensationalize criminal masterminds — are AWOL.

    Why? Because radical leftists zealously believe that abortion must be defended at all costs, even if it means whitewashing its bloody, half-century legacy of mass genocide in our nation’s inner cities.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2018/10/10/the-most-important-movie-youve-never-heard-of-gosnell/

  163. Yes. The test icicles have been ripped from this blog.
    Wethers and ewes only.

  164. struth

    Now an ex who has played with my b a l l s could have balance of power in the senate.

    I am living a nightmare.

    This attack needs to be countered by NO MAAM

    National Organisation of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood.

  165. notafan

    However , as we discussed earlier, and proved, you are a raging sexist that has no respect for men or what they have done for you and sacrificed for you.

    I’m fascinated-though I haven’t read the contents of yesterday-

    We should respect the men on this blog because of the sacrifices of previous generations of men?

    Get out of here.

    I haven’t seen anything written by None over the last months years to suggest she is a ‘raging sexist’.

    I think None’s arguments on gender, marriage and abortion are always well reasoned and presented.

    Much much better than the appeal to the ‘Average Joe’

    (the same Average Joe I saw being despised a few days ago for his boring pointless life)

    I am very grateful to be a 21st western woman mind-it is all too obvious that in many cultures where subsistence agriculture is still the norm most, if not all, of the hard manual labour is left to women.

  166. C.L.

    Victorian Labor MPs caught up in a “rorts-for-votes” scheme

    Rorts for votes isn’t a scheme. It’s the defining hallmark of Australian democracy.

  167. Cassie of Sydney

    “How much more of our freedom can they take once they have our b a l l s”

    Freedom of B A L L S

  168. Careful Cassie.
    In the past people who have called for liberty and freedom have been left to hang.

  169. None

    The federal government has called on supermarkets to stop selling milk for $1 a litre for the sake of the dairy industry.

    and so they’ll raise their prices and pay the same at the farm gate.

  170. Cassie of Sydney

    “incoherent rambler
    #2841660, posted on October 17, 2018 at 11:46 am
    Careful Cassie.
    In the past people who have called for liberty and freedom have been left to hang.”

    Yep, by their B A L L S

  171. C.L.

    ABC feminists angry women don’t like working in construction …
    One of the things they blame is “presenteeism” – that is, having to be at work all day.
    They also panicked about some naughty graffiti …

    For real: Women in construction: goverment can do more to shake up the ‘boys club’.

    Three things keep women away
    Our research finds that three factors undermine women’s recruitment, retention and progression in construction.

    1. Long work hours.

    A typical construction manager arrives on site at 6.30am, leaves after 6.30pm and does more work from home, six days a week.

    A culture of “presenteeism” makes construction careers challenging for most people, but especially those with care responsibilities.

    There is little tolerance for those who won’t commit, and part-time, shared or flexible work doesn’t exist. The problem is made worse by the push to complete projects on time and within budget, with no recognition by clients, including government, of the effects of these demands on the workforce or gender equality.

    2. Sexism.

    During the course of our research, we visited six sites across Australia. In the main entrance of one site, a safety sign noted there was a “penetration behind”, and underneath was scribbled “Brooke LOL”.

    The construction manager said he had not even noticed the graffiti.

    Unlike trip hazards that are spotted and rectified, sexist language goes unnoticed and unacted on.

    3. Little support to return to work.

    Despite the existence of formal parental leave policies in many large construction companies, our research found women had to strategise and negotiate their departure, return to work and career “survival”.

    In one large company we studied, 50 per cent of women didn’t return to work after parental leave. Parental leave was viewed as a cost to construction projects, with little recognition of the value it provided to women’s career progression.

    The authors conclude by demanding government only award tenders to building firms filled with neurotic, angry women. Like they did with that bridge in California.

  172. The only good news on the ENSO for this summer is that a late onset El Niño Modoko (forecast by Weather Bell) will fade out in our Autumn, the same as a strong El Niño.
    There would have to be a very strong drop in the trade winds to allow enough cooler water to push back into the western pacific and over the top of Australia to cause continuation of dry weather. There probably isn’t enough of the year left for the event to develop this far.
    The high pressure systems are also out of whack for this time of year with centres over Tassie. The series of lows moving across SE Australia reflects the cradling effect of highs so far south.
    All these patterns could change in a fortnight and that’s what makes long term forecasting a joke amongst farmers.

  173. Knuckle Dragger

    Nota,

    I for one don’t believe None’s a raging sexist at all.

    She’s just raging.

    And a fan of accusing people of liking kiddy pron. And who runs away when challenged on it. And refuses to say it again or provide any justification for it, other than throwing her own shit like a monkey in a zoo at anyone who dares disagree with her.

  174. Entropy

    and so they’ll raise their prices and pay the same at the farm gate.

    Exactly.

  175. JC

    The authors conclude by demanding government only award tenders to building firms filled with neurotic, angry women. Like they did with that bridge in California.

    Every single sheila I’ve seen at a road work, is on or reading her cell. 100%! There hasn’t been one that’s let me down.

  176. struth

    We should respect the men on this blog because of the sacrifices of previous generations of men?

    We are, still keeping you safe and without us you’d be a mobile black letter box.

    You’d at least be as a blonde in Sweden.

    I don’t think you need to bow down to us, we have wanted that.
    We are western men.
    However, making a statement that suggests that because you are a woman, you have a vested interest in the well being of women and children, thereby suggesting more so than men, is not born out by the facts and history, and is deeply arrogant and offensive to the millions of men that have died since the cave man, defending women and children.
    Women don’t defend and die defending each other, and truth be known, it’s not only women who decide on every abortion, but it’s usually women working in the abortion clinics.

    Women are generally group thinkers and this “I am a women therefore” crap followed by lies and an ignorance of history, will be taken up by others, and as we are seeing in this day and age, it’s very damaging to our civilisation.
    #nomoregirlylies.

  177. None

    Knuckle Dragger you’re a liar. I did not accuse anyone I’m liking kitty p*** I advise them to stay away from it. Do you understand the difference? No you don’t because like a good portion of commenters on this blog, you’re stark raving mad and functionally illiterate.

  178. struth

    We HAVEN’T wanted that.

  179. None

    Every single sheila I’ve seen at a road work, is on or reading her cell. 100%! There hasn’t been one that’s let me down.

    Me too. Seriously, me too.

  180. Cassie of Sydney

    “You’d at least be as a blonde in Sweden.”

    Not for long Struth.

  181. None

    Women are generally group thinkers 

    there’s a participant in a roaming male mob on this blog. Give it up struth. No one’s listening anymore.

  182. notafan

    There is little tolerance for those who won’t commit, and part-time, shared or flexible work doesn’t exist. The problem is made worse by the push to complete projects on time and within budget, with no recognition by clients, including government, of the effects of these demands on the workforce or gender equality.

    that is so incredibly laughable

    Do they have any idea how co-ordinated construction must be ? and sometimes things just have to be finished-you can’t just half pour the concrete.

    If course if they are getting renos done it better be on time and within budget

  183. Speedbox

    An example of the Liberal party’s pathetic acquiescence and surrender to the left is that the party, in its infinite wisdom (sarcasm alert), has preferenced KAP and the ALA, both great supporters of Isr*el and the J*wish community, last on the ballot paper…yes even behind Phelps and the Greens (a party known for its great love of Isr*el and J*ws…another sarcasm alert! Way to go Liberals. Yep, that’s the Liberal party in 2018. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    Really? The Greens are preferenced before the ALA or KAP?! Wow. No other words.

  184. Knuckle Dragger

    Oh dear. Talk about illiterate.

    You clearly inferred I had a fascination for kiddy pron, and also that I was a virgin and lived with my mother.

    That’s MOnty, except for the kiddy pron bit.

    Now – care to repeat the insinuation? Thought not, you faceless craven coward.

    I think I’ve worked out why your voice recognition makes you sound like a retard. It’s because your phone is continually drenched with salty victimhood menopausal tears.

  185. C.L.

    Canada: leftists now want to euthanise (murder) children without parents’ permission …

    An article in “Journal of Medical Ethics” makes the case for it:

    “In a flowchart that outlines how a medically induced death would occur at Sick Kids, authors Carey DeMichelis, Randi Zlotnik Shaul and Adam Rapoport do not mention conversation with family or parents about how the child dies until after the death occurs in the ‘reflection period.’

    “Patient confidentiality governs the decision about whether or not to include parents in a decision about an assisted death, the authors said. If capable minors under the age of 18 stipulate they don’t want their parents involved, doctors and nurses must respect the patients’ wishes.

    “…

    “The proposed policy for Sick Kids argues that there is no meaningful ethical distinction between a patient choosing to refuse burdensome treatment and accepting an inevitable death versus patients who choose to die by chemical injection before the disease brings on death. Legally, Ontario does not require parents to be involved in a capable minor’s decision to refuse further treatment, therefore there is no legal reason to require parent involvement in an assisted death, according to the Sick Kids policy.”

  186. None

    Women don’t defend and die defending each other, and truth be known

    tell that to your mother, struth although I’m starting to get a sneaking suspicion that she disowned you.

  187. struth

    there’s a participant in a roaming male mob on this blog. Give it up struth. No one’s listening anymore

    The men know I’m stating the bleeding obvious, and some are wondering why I am hammering this home.

    Because female bullshit should be called out dangerous it is now dangerous to our civilisation.

    When we thought it wasn’t, we ignored you, remember?

    But that was probably a mistake looking back.
    We should have nipped it in the bud then.

  188. stackja

    struth
    #2841672, posted on October 17, 2018 at 11:54 am

    My late Mum was no group thinker.

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    Doing God’s work, struth.

  190. struth

    I am a man, therefore I have a vested interest in the welfare of women and children.

    My opinion therefore counts for more.

  191. None

    Knuckles I strongly doubt that any woman has ever come near you apart from your mother. And I really really don’t care what you think. Ooroo now. And yeah stay away from the kiddy p***.

  192. stackja

    C.L.
    #2841681, posted on October 17, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    ‘sick adults’ should leave kids alone.

  193. Stimpson J. Cat

    We should respect the men on this blog because of the sacrifices of previous generations of men?

    Get out of here.

    No, you should respect men because God had a choice between having a son and a daughter.

    Guess which one he chose?

    Now guess why.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ja ha ja!!!!

  194. jupes

    Well, like Turnbull, Morrison won’t pull out of Paris. ‘Why not?’ I ask. So far we have no answer except that Morrison says Australia made a promise. (He leaves out that Australia ratified this treaty after Trump had won and had made clear that the US would not sign up to Paris; in other words, when a more or less empty and unenforceable virtue-signalling concoction of a treaty became a patently dead one.) But that’s one of the dumber answers ever.

    Among the many things that shit me lately is that I’ve heard SloMo state that “Paris has no effect on electricity prices” or some such shit several times and not once was he called out on his lie.

  195. None

    Struth, all I can say is, don’t wonder why you will die alone. Ooroo now.

  196. Harry and Meghan are in Dubbo meeting the RM Williams and Akubra cockies.
    Green crops on the TV at the property.
    Come to my place, I’ll show them dead brown crops.

  197. Knuckle Dragger

    Salty, victimhood, menopausal tears. Swimming pools full of it.

    And a fascination with the subject of kiddy pron.

    Just sad. But keep barking, don’t mind the sane people.

  198. Cassie of Sydney

    I am NOT a group thinker.

  199. struth

    Our mums weren’t raging femarxists who would think of making statements like “I am a women and therefore I have a vested interest in the welfare of women and children.”

    They respected their men, (mostly) and understood the world.
    And the part they didn’t understand they left to men.

    Now they are gods of virtue in their own minds, and know all.

    Many are now ignorant, spoiled brats, demeaning their protectors.

    Hence why I try to pull this shit up.

  200. There is little tolerance for those who won’t commit, and part-time, shared or flexible work doesn’t exist. The problem is made worse by the push to complete projects on time and within budget, with no recognition by clients, including government, of the effects of these demands on the workforce or gender equality.

    that is so incredibly laughable

    Beyond parody. Really.

  201. None

    There is a reason why the road to the gas Chambers started with euthanasia C.L. Euthanasia is just pure and utter evil. That some people attempt to dress it up as compassion or try to hide it in the language of morals and consent is even more evil. Hi*ler’s Aktion T4 euthanasia program targeted children as well. Remove them by force full stop Pope Benedict 16’s teen cousin was exterminated by N*zis under that program. Just evil. And that evil has now been legitimated here by the Victorian Government and what you see in Canada will be honest or within a few short years as to the scenario in the states where medical insurers will recommend euthanasia instead of paying for your treatment. F****** evil.

  202. Leigh Lowe

    Breaking …
    Benny and Bjorn from ABBA have 1/256th Cherokee bloodlines.

  203. struth

    Struth, all I can say is, don’t wonder why you will die alone. Ooroo now.

    Mrs Struth is ten years younger than me, in perfect health and loves me dearly as I her.
    She is a beautiful women who wouldn’t put up with your feminist bullshit for a second.
    She is deeply happy and knows I would kill anyone that touched her or my son.
    The chances of me dying alone, are high.
    The chances of me dying without being loved and respected will never happen.
    I’ll make sure of it.
    Because that’s what I’ve been brought up to do.

    You keep fighting , but you know, making a statement regarding men as second in line to you, because you are a women, in having a vested interest in the welfare of women and children, is a TITANIC lie.
    It’s a pure , arrogant, ignorant insult.

    But obviously you twist that rather basic statement of fact around to keep arguing.

  204. notafan

    Struth suffering from verbal diarrhea and imagining he knows what I think,

    but if you think that ‘respect’ should extend to you on a blog because gender get a grip-you personally have done nothing to defend anyone in a war and are never likely to.

    As for islam -it was stupid male politicians that let them in here in the first place

    Tell us more about the statistics on he gender of the doctors performing abortions-women admin in abortion clinics is hardly surprising -while being completely irrelevant to my point-you know perfectly well I do not support abortion in any way shape or form

    IIRC they tend to be greedy women haters-like Kermit Gosnells.

    PS I have extraordinary respect for anyone who has earned it, man or woman.

  205. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look, as soon a you get more than five women in a group they build an abortion clinic to literally murder babies.
    It’s why no one can take women seriously.

    Ladies behave please.

    Don’t make us take driving off you again.

    Maybe just celebrate your latest World Women’s Cycling Champion quietly for a while, yes?

  206. Delta A

    Struth @ 11.54 am.

    Sadly, there is much truth in what you say.

    I recognise that there were inequality issues prior to first wave feminism, but these have long been resolved. Feminism today is about the humiliation and subjugation of white men. Look at the prime specimens: Van Badham, Ford, Summers, Deveny etc, all spewing anti-male bile for young, impressionable women to absorb.

    And yes, women are the driving force behind the vile abortion industry. As Cats have said previously, a baby is only a baby if it is wanted. (Then, our government welcomes hundreds of thousands of migrants/refugees to counter our falling birthrate. Ridiculous!)

    What this country needs is a huge dose of respect.

    Respect for marriage and family, for our Christian values, for our history. And certainly, respect for the men who have contributed over centuries to provide the privileged lifestyle we enjoy: the commodities, the technology and the ongoing security.

    Stay proud, Aussie men. There are still many who admire and respect you, and are grateful that you’re here.

  207. “The proposed policy for Sick Kids argues that there is no meaningful ethical distinction between a patient choosing to refuse burdensome treatment and accepting an inevitable death versus patients who choose to die by chemical injection before the disease brings on death.

    In other words, what these writers are doing is denying the intention/ foresight distinction. This is a typical maneuver that consequentialists engage in order to deny any substantive difference between foreseeing the probable consequence of an act or omission and that of deliberately intending that consequence via an act or omission. If you do such a thing than the principle of double effect is usually also denied as the two are closely related.

  208. It’s a complete joke that the Dubbo property picked for the royal visit looks a heap better than most of Northern Vic and are drought declared, we’re not.
    Rainfall in Dubbo Oct 17 – Oct 18 367mm
    Rainfall at my place same period 240mm.

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    Delta A,

    Love your work. Completely agree.

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tell us more about the statistics on he gender of the doctors performing abortions-women admin in abortion clinics is hardly surprising -while being completely irrelevant to my point-you know perfectly well I do not support abortion in any way shape or form
    IIRC they tend to be greedy women haters-like Kermit Gosnells.

    Yes yes it’s all the male doctors fault.
    They perform abortions without consent on these virtuous women.
    Just terrible people.

  211. jupes

    ABC doing what the ABC does:

    Mr Trump did not provide any proof for the claims made in the tweets.

    This in reference to Pocahontas’ claims to be Cherokee. It is common knowledge that Harvard employed Poco as a “person of colour”, yet our billion dollar state news organisation is ignorant of the fact and / or too lazy to find out for itself. Either that or they are just lying …

    As I said, the ABC just doing what the ABC does.

  212. “Patient confidentiality governs the decision about whether or not to include parents in a decision about an assisted death, the authors said. If capable minors under the age of 18 stipulate they don’t want their parents involved, doctors and nurses must respect the patients’ wishes.
    ….Legally, Ontario does not require parents to be involved in a capable minor’s decision to refuse further treatment, therefore there is no legal reason to require parent involvement in an assisted death, according to the Sick Kids policy.”

    Seriously, at some point, this and other legislation of its kind makes living peaceably as a community impossible.

  213. C.L.

    “The proposed policy for Sick Kids argues that there is no meaningful ethical distinction between a patient choosing to refuse burdensome treatment and accepting an inevitable death versus patients who choose to die by chemical injection before the disease brings on death.”

    Sick children cannot inject themselves.
    The phrase “choose to die” is designed to absolve such a child’s murderers of culpability.
    It is, in essence, a variation of the Nuremberg Defence, with ‘choice’ doing a locum for ‘orders.’

  214. struth

    but if you think that ‘respect’ should extend to you on a blog because gender get a grip-you personally have done nothing to defend anyone in a war and are never likely to.

    Not to me, but to men generally, as her statement was about women generally.

    And in the same respect, you don’t know what I have done.
    It doesn’t have to be a war.
    You’re being too cute by half.

    As for islam -it was stupid male politicians that let them in here in the first place

    Try harder.

    Women got the vote and infiltrated Parliament.
    Their virtue signalling and dangerous history of never establishing a civilisation or fighting for it, their take over of education, etc etc etc, has seen this come about.

    The proof is here.
    There wouldn’t be one left wing government in any democracy, once you took the female vote out.

    There is a feminist government in Sweden, born of civilizational ignorance, that is getting it’s women rap ed as we speak.

    Tell us more about the statistics on he gender of the doctors performing abortions

    Tell us more about the percentage of men having abortions.

    For every one doctor performing them, how many of his willing patients are men?
    What’s the doctor, patient ratio?

    I have defended men, not just myself, against a TITANIC lie.
    That because None is a woman, she has more of a vested interest in the welfare of women and children.

    Once you let crap like that go through to the keeper, then next think women believe only their opinions count on the issue, and men can be demonised more easily.
    This is how we get to where we are.
    And it’s bloody dangerous , and very much weakens our civilisation.
    Once you start this carry on, which women have, you’ll actually be the ones creating more misery for women and children than you seem to understand.
    Although Sweden, and Germany, and many other femarxist infested shitholes, are there as proof, still many of you continue to dribble shit.

    I have nothing further to add.

  215. None

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2841690, posted on October 17, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    The fifth century historian Sozomen relates this episode about St Ephrem the Syrian in his Ecclesiastical History:

    He was as celebrated for the good actions he performed as for the rigid course of discipline he pursued. He was particularly fond of tranquillity. He was so serious and so careful to avoid giving occasion to calumny, that he refrained from the very sight of women. It is related that a female of careless life, who was either desirous of tempting him, or who had been bribed for the purpose, contrived on one occasion to meet him face to face, and fixed her eyes intently upon him; he rebuked her, and commanded her to look down upon the ground. “Why should I obey your injunction,” replied the woman; “for I was born not of the earth, but of you? It would be more just if you were to look down upon the earth whence you sprang, while I look upon you, as I was born of you.” Ephraim, astonished at the little woman, recorded the whole transaction in a book, which most Syrians regard as one of the best of his productions.

    There is no historical evidence Ephrem ever shunned women and no extant work by Ephrem mentions such an episode – he is actually famous for writing many hymns for women’s choirs, and his works reveal him to be very sensitive and tender towards women. But it just goes to show women have been beating men at their games for millenia.

  216. Delta A

    I am NOT a group thinker.

    Cassie, the fact that you read and post at the Cat proves you’re certainly no group thinker.

    I think that all of Struth’s criticisms are directed at lefty women who are most certainly prone to group think.

  217. hzhousewife

    Stay proud, Aussie men. There are still many who admire and respect you, and are grateful that you’re here.

    Hear hear.
    When the war between the sexes breaks out, I’m going to be on the blokes side (if they’ll have me).

  218. None

    The phrase “choose to die” is designed to absolve such a child’s murderers of culpability.
    It is, in essence, a variation of the Nuremberg Defence, with ‘choice’ doing a locum for ‘orders.’

    Bingo.

  219. A Lurker

    Looks like You Tube has fallen over and died in a twitching heap.

  220. C.L.

    Seriously, at some point, this and other legislation of its kind makes living peaceably as a community impossible.

    We’re long past that point. Consider what the American colonists did over a mere taxation dispute.

  221. None

    If you do such a thing than the principle of double effect is usually also denied as the two are closely related.

    Yep.

  222. Stimpson J. Cat

    But it just goes to show women have been beating men at their games for millenia.

    Sure they have.
    It’s why they let a man become World Women’s Cycling Champion.

    Because they are such f$cking winners.

    #WomenWinning

  223. Delta A

    When the war between the sexes breaks out, I’m going to be on the blokes side

    Absolutely!

    Imagine having to line up with Clemmy Ford et alia. (Shudder!)

  224. None

    It’s why they let a man become World Women’s Cycling Champion.

    I didn’t. I actually wanted him to win the Women’s Cycling. I want to see more men like him. It will give you and struth reason to exist at least.

  225. Mother Lode

    This in reference to Pocahontas’ claims to be Cherokee. It is common knowledge that Harvard employed Poco as a “person of colour”, yet our billion dollar state news organisation is ignorant of the fact and / or too lazy to find out for itself. Either that or they are just lying …

    I believe, to be accepted as a Cherokee, you have to be able to prove descent from someone on the Dawes Rolls compiled around the turn of the 20th Century.

    I gather Fauxcohontas cannot, and the Cherokee have been very emphatic in saying she has no right to make the claim.

  226. C.L.

    Queensland abortion bill debate brings politicians to tears.

    Joan Pease, ALP Member for Lytton

    “I am asking all of those in the House to consider this bill from the perspective of the woman who seeks a termination,” Ms Pease said.

    “There is actually a woman out there right now considering one and that woman’s decision will be made in the context of her own complex and possibly conflicting social, moral, religious, political and economic values.

    “We can try to put ourselves in her shoes but she doesn’t have our lives, our problems, our options or values or our experiences, so her decision is bound to offend or confound some of us, whatever decision she reaches.

    “So Madame Deputy Speaker, and for all of those in the house today my advice is to trust the woman. Trust her to make the right decision, trust her to make the decent decision and trust her to make the wise decision.”

    Here we go again: Belieb All Women.
    Fuck off. No.

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    I didn’t. I actually wanted him to win the Women’s Cycling. I want to see more men like him.

    This is exactly what I mean.
    Women can’t even agree on what a woman is, let alone defend each other from men.
    You lost your toilets, and now you’ve lost your town bikes.

    Just pathetic.

  228. Delta A

    for all of those in the house today my advice is to trust the woman

    She is contemplating murder.

    She is not trustworthy.

  229. I am bespoke

    notafan
    #2841657, posted on October 17, 2018 at 11:41 am
    I’m fascinated-though I haven’t read the contents of yesterday-

    1/ Cool then your not going to judge out of ignorance.

    We should respect the men on this blog because of the sacrifices of previous generations of men?
    Get out of here.

    2/ Agreed

    I haven’t seen anything written by None over the last months years to suggest she is a ‘raging sexist’.

    3/ Just ‘raging’ but return to 1/ just to be clear

    I think None’s arguments on gender, marriage and abortion are always well reasoned and presented.

    4/ No idea why but lately its been bitter crude unfounded accusations, desperate #metoo comments seeking allies, baiting for reaction and pitiful victimhood.

    I am very grateful to be a 21st western woman mind-it is all too obvious that in many cultures where subsistence agriculture is still the norm most, if not all, of the hard manual labour is left to women.

    Agreed

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