If the left could actually fulfil their promises they would never lose an election

I guess with compulsory voting, no one will be discouraged from going out to vote no matter how pessimistic they might feel. So in Australia, I guess this can’t hurt that much: Sharma will likely lose: Morrison.

I realise those who vote for a living, or have relos parked somewhere near some leaky fishing boat offshore, might see such an outcome as all right. Anyway, a wrap up from Maurice Newman about how things stand: Bob Hawke rebuff burdened Libs with a LINO. Here’s part of what he wrote:

In the six weeks since his resignation, Turnbull has yet to offer Scott Morrison or his Wentworth successor, Dave Sharma, any formal electoral support. In fact, apart from a congratulatory tweet, he has yet to even publicly endorse Sharma.

According to Sharri Markson in The Daily Telegraph: “Dissatisfied with the outcome of a new-look government getting on with the job, Turnbull is now trying to force the issue and facilitate the downfall of the Liberal government. There have been leaks designed to damage Morrison from Turnbull’s closest confidants . . . .”

This vindictiveness has become a family affair.

Son Alex Turnbull is encouraging voters to put their money on Labor in the lead-up to the by-election, re-tweeting a post by candidate Tim Murray instructing people to donate. As he sees it: “My father fought the stupid and the stupid won.”

And if the Turnbulls’ scorched-earth policy is not handicap enough, Sharma has been ­attacked by another LINO, former federal leader John Hewson. He wants electors of Wentworth to register a substantial protest vote against the government “or any other candidates that don’t understand the magnitude and urgency of the climate change challenge”. Hewson is a global-warming activist and a renewable-energy investor, yet rather than speak from this platform, he artfully chooses to abuse his Liberal Party credentials to inflict maximum political pain on Sharma.

The Wentworth aspirant must wonder: with Liberals such as Hewson and the Turnbulls, who needs enemies?

I will just add that if the left could actually fulfil their promises, they would never lose an election. But they can’t, so they eventually do lose, but until then they create serious havoc and harm.

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47 Responses to If the left could actually fulfil their promises they would never lose an election

  1. Ellen of Tasmania

    C’mon – did anyone seriously think Mr Turnbull would be a Liberal supporter once he left parliament?

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    Steve, I read Newman’s article this morning and I posted this comment. ..
    “As I have said in a previous comment on another thread, given the fact that “the man who lost an unlosable election” aka John Hewson and “the wealthy privileged son of a recent ex-PM, a young man who doesn’t even live in this country and wouldn’t know what it is like to struggle to pay a power bill” aka Turnbull Junior, I really think it’s time for this newspaper and one or more of its esteemed journalists to start to do some investigatory journalism on how some of the biggest spruikers and scare mongers of “climate change” and “renewable energy” are also two people who have considerable financial investments in renewable energy and stand to profit most from increasing renewable energy. Please Oz.”

    Turdbull and that cretinous joke Hewson should both be expelled from the party. I have NO doubt that Turdbull has supported and encouraged his fetid son’s rantings and ravings, with Junior even comparing Abbott, Abetz, Dutton and Andrews to Nazis. I’m sorry but any party that had principles, b*lls and a spine would say to Hewson and Turdbull…get f*cked. Oh but that’ right, we’re talking about the current Liberal party of Australia, a party in 2018 with NO principles, full of vacuous Labor lite stooges who would run away in terror if you said “boo” to them. Well, I think that it is time to say “boo” to them. I will be seeing a few of current sitting Liberal MPs tonight and I am going to give them a serve.

  3. Cassie of Sydney

    “Steve, I read Newman’s article this morning and I posted this comment. ..

    “As I have said in a previous comment on another thread, given the fact that “the man who lost an unlosable election” aka John Hewson and “the wealthy privileged son of a recent ex-PM, a young man who doesn’t even live in this country and wouldn’t know what it is like to struggle to pay a power bill” aka Turnbull Junior, I really think it’s time for this newspaper and one or more of its esteemed journalists to start to do some investigatory journalism on how some of the biggest spruikers and scare mongers of “climate change” and “renewable energy” are also two people who have considerable financial investments in renewable energy and stand to profit most from increasing renewable energy. Please Oz.”

    Waffler and that cretinous joke Hewson should both be expelled from the party. I have NO doubt that Waffler is orchestrating, supporting and encouraging his fetid son’s rantings and ravings, with Junior even comparing Abbott, Abetz, Dutton and Andrews to Nazis. I’m sorry but any party that had principles and a spine would say to Hewson and Turdbull…get f**ked. Oh but that’ right, silly me, we’re talking about the current Liberal party of Australia, a party in 2018 with ZERO principles, full of vacuous Labor lite stooges who would run away in terror if you said “boo” to them. Well, I think that it is time to say “boo” to them. I will be seeing a few current sitting Liberal MPs tonight and I am going to give them a serve.

  4. Cassie of Sydney

    “Steve, I read Newman’s article this morning and I posted this comment. ..

    “As I have said in a previous comment on another thread, given the fact that “the man who lost an unlosable election” aka John Hewson and “the wealthy privileged son of a recent ex-PM, a young man who doesn’t even live in this country and wouldn’t know what it is like to struggle to pay a power bill” aka Turnbull Junior, I really think it’s time for this newspaper and one or more of its esteemed journalists to start to do some investigatory journalism on how some of the biggest spruikers and scare mongers of “climate change” and “renewable energy” are also two people who have considerable financial investments in renewable energy and stand to profit most from increasing renewable energy. Please Oz.”

    .

  5. ar

    If the Left fulfilled their promises we wouldn’t *get* elections.

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    Waffler and that cretinous joke Hewson should both be expelled from the party. I have NO doubt that Waffler is orchestrating, supporting and encouraging his fetid son’s rantings and ravings, with Junior even comparing Abbott, Abetz, Dutton and Andrews to N*zis. I’m sorry but any party that had any principles and a spine would say to Hewson and Turdbull…get f**ked. Oh but that’ right, silly me, we’re talking about the current Liberal party of Australia, a party in 2018 with ZERO principles, full of vacuous Labor lite stooges who would run away in terror if you said “boo” to them. Well, I think that it is time to say “boo” to them. I will be seeing a few current sitting Liberal MPs tonight and I am going to give them a serve

  7. Cassie of Sydney

    Waffler and that cretinous joke Hewson should both be expelled from the party. I have NO doubt that Waffler is orchestrating, supporting and encouraging his fetid son’s rantings and ravings, with Junior even comparing Abbott, Abetz, Dutton and Andrews to National Socialists…what a charmer. I’m sorry but any party that had any principles and a spine would say to Hewson and Turdbull…get stuffed. Oh but that’ right, silly me, we’re talking about the current Liberal party of Australia, a party in 2018 with ZERO principles, full of vacuous Labor lite stooges who would run away in terror if you said “boo” to them. Well, I think that it is time to say “boo” to them. I will be seeing a few current sitting Liberal MPs tonight and I am going to give them a serve

  8. BoyfromTottenham

    Steve, I would go further than just calling these folk LINOs – I would use other terms such a quisling, duplicitous, fifth columnists, and maybe on a bad day even traitor (to the Liberals, at least). Regarding Turnbull departure from the leadership, the frontbench and parliament, I’m amazed that anyone in the LNP lets any journalist get away with repeating the line that Turnbull was ‘betrayed’ or ‘stabbed in the back’. Turnbull resigned as PM, then as an MP. End of story.
    Time will tell if Dr Phelps is really an Independent, or just a stalking horse for the ALP. I don’t mean to be so cynical, but I don’t see much reason not to be regarding politics these days.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    What is wrong with my comment? Why is it going into moderation? Is “boo” a bad word?

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    “My father fought the stupid and the stupid won.”

    That is a classic irony. Son does not understand that the people who oppose his dad’s lefty ideology are very, very intelligent. They also tend to have worked in the real world, not politics.

  11. RobK

    I wish Sharma all the best. As a cleanskin of sorts, he’s maybe what the party needs to pull itself out of the gutter (big call, I know). Choose carefully good people of Wentworth.

  12. RobK

     if the left could actually fulfil their promises, they would never lose an election.
    Same for all of them.

  13. H B Bear

    No-one who wins Lieboral pre-selection in NSW is a cleanskin. They are worse than the Liars.

  14. The Libs will just keep going downhill until they grow a spine and start acting as the Liberal Party and not Labor Lite. They should into rehab and get over the polls and then start doing what their true constituents believe in and want.

  15. Rusty of Qld

    We have compulsory “attendance” to get marked off the roll, you don’t have to vote.

  16. None

    Well said Cassie. The only thing that may save Wentworth is if there are enough little people there who have been paying attention and who don’t live in Harbourside mansions and who are not impressed by Turnbull punking them and push back, by outpunking Turnbull and voting Liberal anyway ( which is what Turnbull doesn’t want). While I personally want to see the Liberal Party destroyed even if I know it spells bad news if a Labor government is installed, such an emphatic push back by the little people would be epic and would give other little people hope. Then we can proceed to give Morrison the lowest national poll ever as a warning that we will punk him too. Yeah I’m dreaming.

  17. None

    Well said Cassie. The only thing that may save Wentworth is if there are enough little people there who have been paying attention and who don’t live in Harbourside mansions and who are not impressed by Turnbull punking them and push back, by outpunking Turnbull and voting Liberal anyway ( which is what Turnbull doesn’t want). While I personally want to see the Liberal Party destroyed even if I know it sp el l s bad news if a Labor government is installed, such an emphatic push back by the little people would be epic and would give other little people hope. Then we can proceed to give Morrison the lowest national poll ever as a warning that we will punk him too. Yeah I’m dreaming.

  18. Baldrick

    Nothing but the complete and utter destruction of the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party will suffice.

    Why vote Labor/Green-Lite, when you can have the real thing in Phelps.

    Not until the Liberals are destroyed can they rebuild.

  19. struth

    Two beneficiaries of renewable subsidies are now screeching in fear.

    What’s to worry about John and Alex?

    Your profits will not diminish under Liberals.

    But you’ll definitely be set for life if the others get in.

    Disgusting pieces of shit

  20. Perplexed of Brisbane

    I think this is possibly the only time the ALP has made a smarter decision than the Liberals. They knocked back Turnbull.

    Short of them getting elected with a majority in both houses, there couldn’t be more damage done to Australia apart from Turnbull in charge of the Coalition.

  21. Dr Fred Lenin

    I suggest people vote against all sitting members ,every one of them , now that would really lead to a proper reform of the corrupt un democratic system we have ,just imagine every one of those crooked bastards out on their ass ,poetic justice . Bet the communist media would be dumbfounded and speechless I mean how do you handle a thing like that ? it would be a salutary lesson to the public service that they were vulnerable too .

  22. manalive

    … they eventually do lose, but until then they create serious havoc and harm …

    G K Chesterton:
    “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected …
    … thus we have two great types — the advanced person [sic] who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine”.

  23. Muddy

    In politics, never promise something achievable, because once it is achieved, you’re out of a job as an ‘achiever.’
    The ‘achieved’ fade from memory and become yesterdays, but an ‘achiever’ is always in the present; available for the limelight because we vale promises rather than achievements.
    There is little continuing money or recognition in being a ‘fixed-it’, but there is a for being a ‘fixer.’

    My point, of course, is that there is no political future in the fulfilment of promises, therefore no real intent in doing so. Neither will nor capacity in other words.

  24. Squirrel

    If the good folk of Wentworth (or a preferenced majority of them) vote for Kerryn Phelps because they’re “passionate” about climate change and refugees then the obvious response is to give them what they want.

    All those manicured parks featuring in recent TV footage would make wonderful sites for refugee camps and/or solar farms and wind farms.

    The other big contribution the passionate, concerned Wentworthians could make would be to get rid of those dreadful NIMBY heritage rules which prevent complete high-rise tower development in their part of the world – the more people we can cram into the inner east, the less fossil-fueled travel will be needed for workers who currently commute to the city from further-flung suburbs.

    Think globally, act locally, Wentworthians!

  25. bollux

    And there really should be an inquiry into Alex Turnbull and his investment in Infigen [ex Babcock & Brown] and the enormous turnaround in profitability since Big Mal started to spruik windfarms. Is nepotism compulsory?

  26. BoyfromTottenham

    Nice one, Squirrel. +10 BTW, did you know that the German word (please don’t ask me to spell it) for squirrel translates as ‘nut chicken’?

  27. Muddy

    … we ‘value’ that should have been, not vale.
    I blame my simian secretary.

  28. JohnL

    If for nothing else, Phelps should be voted in for her looks. A face like that would fit in any box of LGBTQ, and also could be used to frighten little children (and adults).
    Apparently, she is a “professor”. What did she publish?

  29. Sadly the majority of Wentworth will never feel the effects of renewable energy on the hip pocket like the majority of Australians; so they can comfortably vote based on their feelings (and shares in renewable energy). It’s a pity that there’s no way to individually isolate Greens voters from electricity distribution when the need arises, so that they can experience darkness and stew in their own juices when the lights and aircon are turned off.

  30. tgs

    I live in Wentworth and have to vote tomorrow uppn penalty of fine.

    Sharma is hard to work out because he comes across as a classic left-wing Liberal wet given he obviously has to court the Eastern suburbs doctor’s wives vote. Thr o ly thing I know for sure I like avout him is his obvious pro-Israel stance.

    I’ll prob hold my nose and vote for him (I’ll decide tomorrow) but if I do it’s because he’s the least bad out of a field of truly awful candidates.

    Steve if you think Sharma shares your view on most rhings though, I reckon you’re dreaming.

  31. tgs

    Awful typing was on phone, hopefully semi-intelligible.

  32. Roger

    Cassie of Sydney #2843838, posted on October 19, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    More power to your keyboard!

  33. Jo Smyth

    Turnbull is actively trying to further destroy the Liberal Party but when any MP in the Liberal Party is asked about Turnbull, they still shower him with praise and haven’t got a negative thing to say about him. Sharma has received no support whatsoever and yet has said Turnbull was his mentor. The Liberal Party couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. They don’t deserve to win.

  34. candy

    I am not sure what the big deal is about losing Wentworth, if it happened. It’s not an electorate that has anything much in common with most of the rest of Australia, for obvious reasons.

    The peoples there may well be angry their PM is taken away, as that was special for them to have their representative become the PM, probably feel it fitting for Wentworth, but really is any of this relevant for the LNP to win the next election? It’s Wentworth.

  35. RobK

    but really is any of this relevant for the LNP to win the next election? 
    If they lose now, they’ll have to pork-barrell to attempt to get it back next time.

  36. iain russell

    I’ll go with squirrel today. Demolish all housing and other buildings in the electorate and have the earth lovers live off the land. No evil electricity, no vehicles, no domesticated animals. Perfectly green. Hunters and gatherers. Plus add some ‘refugees’. Pity is this is not what the ‘refugees’ came for. They want Centrelink and benefits, not Gaia.

  37. Motelier

    Climate change, the theory that destroys one Prime Minister after another.

    Howard -> Rudd -> Gillard-> Rudd * -> Abbott -> Turnbull and today Morrison.

    One day we will get a Prime Minister who calls it for what it is.

  38. Tel

    “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected …
    … thus we have two great types — the advanced person [sic] who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine”.

    Tom Woods comment was that a Conservative is simply a Progressive who stays under the speed limit.

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Tom Woods comment was that a Conservative is simply a Progressive who stays under the speed limit.

    part of me wants to say no no it’s not like that at all….silence….

  40. bemused
    #2843862, posted on October 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm
    The Libs will just keep going downhill until they grow a spine and start acting as the Liberal Party and not Labor Lite. They should into rehab and get over the polls and then start doing what their true constituents believe in and want.

    The Liberals are dead they have been infiltrated by the labor party, that is the only explanation for the labor policies put forward by the liberal party.
    Cassie you are on the money and it will not improve under labor.

  41. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    verbal diarrhea

  42. Jonesy

    Motelier…repeat for effect!

    Turnbull brought about his own demise. He got cocky, called a spill and found his partyroom really didnt like him as PM. What followed then was an excercise in petulance. The shame of it is when it was required to tell the true story on why Turnbull stood down everyone falls into platitudes when they needed to deep six tbe guy to stop his particular method of white anting. Phelps is riding
    on the coattails of victimhood of dear leader. Honestly, Phelps is far and away more out there than even a full blown green communist!

  43. Crossie

    struth
    #2843898, posted on October 19, 2018 at 4:21 pm
    Two beneficiaries of renewable subsidies are now screeching in fear.

    What’s to worry about John and Alex?

    Your profits will not diminish under Liberals.

    But you’ll definitely be set for life if the others get in.

    Disgusting pieces of shit

    The other party have their own grifters who will get priority, Hewson and BS junior will not be first in line.

  44. Crossie

    candy
    #2844196, posted on October 19, 2018 at 9:39 pm
    I am not sure what the big deal is about losing Wentworth, if it happened. It’s not an electorate that has anything much in common with most of the rest of Australia, for obvious reasons.

    The peoples there may well be angry their PM is taken away, as that was special for them to have their representative become the PM, probably feel it fitting for Wentworth, but really is any of this relevant for the LNP to win the next election? It’s Wentworth.

    I agree. At most they will have to seek Bob Katter’s approval which could only be an improvement on their current performance.

    I intend to celebrate tonight when it’s declared that hive of doctors’ wives voted for the doctor and her wife.

  45. tgs

    Just voted, was pleasantly surprised to see an LDP candidate.

    Huge turnout from Phelps, ALP and Getup! volunteers. Doesn’t bode well.

  46. .

    I wonder how Sam Gunning (LDP) will go.

    Phelps is ALP in all but name just as Joe Mc Girr from Wagga and Cathy McGowan from Indi are.

  47. Dr Fred Lenin

    I always remember an English comedian called Billy Russel who said “politicians !they promise you everything ,give you nothing, and take it off you before you get it “ a fine description .

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