Identity politics and apartheid

I have long thought that identity politics and apartheid is the same thing – just that identity politics seems to be more respectable.  Racist right wingers are appalling while racist left wingers are promoting human rights.  It’s all so easy to understand, so we should all get with the program.

Here is Theodore Dalrymple making the obvious point:

From an outsider’s point of view, the two most extraordinary things about the controversy over the interpretation of Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test are that it should have been performed in the first place and that anyone should have been interested in the result, including the subject of the test herself. By comparison with this, apartheid South Africa’s racial classification was rational, as was that of pre-revolutionary Saint-Domingue, the slave colony from which Haiti was later formed, with its 64 degrees of whiteness (or, of course, of blackness).

So, having spent years denying that there is any objective reality to racial classifications, liberals start sifting people into racial categories with an obsessiveness that puts South African policemen under the old regime to shame. Race, among other classifications, becomes a lens through which the whole of social life is examined. In short, there is no racist as fanatical as an anti-racist.

While we are making comparisons to apartheid South Africa, those individuals who are proposing an indigenous third chamber in the federal parliament should examine the South African experience with a tricameral parliament.  Separate representation is inherently racist and the Liberal government have been wise to reject that notion out of hand.

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25 Responses to Identity politics and apartheid

  1. Boambee John

    Doomlord

    Insuspect that the fascist left approach to apartheid is much the same as the fascist left approach to communism.

    “This time we’ll do it right, we are so much smarter than those earlier failures, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Verwoerd.”

  2. John Bayley

    NZ has had Maori-only seats for decades.
    Yes it’s racist.
    No, it has not helped them from being at the bottom of society in most social indices.

  3. wozzup

    Having spent decades arguing that races do not objectively exist and that all that matters is culture (specifically those that support leftist ideas v those that do not) the Left has now undertaken a complete 180 degree turn. According to them now, all that matters is race (or in the case of Fauxcahontas 1024th of a race) and it is cultural differences that do not matter – they are all equivalent. (Especially the cultures belonging to brown folk, strangely).
    This kind of angels dancing on the head of a pin reasoning is enough to do my head in frankly. Though I fully understand why they do it….personal interest. They have worked out that they can use race as a tool to promote differences and hence promote the ascendency of leftism.

  4. I am bespoke

    Glad you bring this up Sinc. Others do but only have comic book understanding.

  5. Louis

    No the Liberals shouldn’t have dismissed it out of hand. There reason they did was because they were gutless. They should have forced the issue making Labor and the Greens fix their positions. They then should have inflamed the situation by suggesting even more ridiculous identity politics like women only votes/members and other minority representatives.

    Force the progressive to show their true colours, show how extreme they are and how hypocritical they are. The beauty of Trump is that progressives are so blinded for their hated of the guy that they can’t help but showing everyone their true colours. The more they do, the more Trumps flaws pale into comparison which just enrages them more because they believe he is evil and they are good.

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    My wider family, counting affinal relationships as well as some blood relations, has included people from Aboriginal Australian, Indian, Sri Lankan, Phillipino, Japanese, Maori and Chinese ethnic backgrounds. This is as well as 6th generation European Australians, plus a strong input of Irish, Scots, Welsh, Scandinavian and Norman ancestry. And a Sephardic Jewish stepmother acting as a grannie.

    Somehow we all get on. Ancestry and skin colour is hardly thought of in the news of the day.

    Not everyone is ‘white’, some are doing well according to character not skin colour, and others are falling to the wayside in spite of ‘whiteness’, but family is family when it comes to the crunch. One’s country should also be ‘family’ in this sense.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Argh – lost in moderation due to the protective ban of the J word. Here it is now, fixed:

    My wider family, counting affinal relationships as well as some blood relations, has included people from Aboriginal Australian, Indian, Sri Lankan, Phillipino, Japanese, Maori and Chinese ethnic backgrounds. This is as well as 6th generation European Australians, plus a strong input of Irish, Scots, Welsh, Scandinavian and Norman ancestry. And a Sephardic J3wish stepmother acting as a grannie.

    Somehow we all get on. Ancestry and skin colour is hardly thought of in the news of the day.

    Not everyone is ‘white’, some are doing well according to character not skin colour, and others are falling to the wayside in spite of ‘whiteness’, but family is family when it comes to the crunch. One’s country should also be ‘family’ in this sense. Not a narrow gene pool.

  8. duncanm

    I’ll just remind you all of this:

  9. RobK

    The fact that Warren was successfully pedalling her genetics for gain, especially via “affirmative action”is a sad symptom for racism. These sorts of things shouldn’t be legislated, nor constitutionally sanctioned.

  10. Fred

    The DNA tests can be interesting. I had one done and found out that I’m 16% Scandinavian and 8% French & Iberian. Didn’t even know it. Just assumed that my ancestors came from Britain and Ireland.

    So I’m more CALD than some ATSI are ATSI.

    Now where do i go to collect taxpayers money?

  11. .

    NZ has had Maori-only seats for decades.

    There is virtually no way to get rid of this either.

  12. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    That 64 degrees of whiteness- were albinos on top? If not, why not?
    As for Aborigines and advising Parliament- I think that whatever we call the Department of Aboriginal Affairs should be the place to which they send their advice. Perhaps the Natives should form, at their own expense, a shadow Parliament- at least then we would know if an idea really did have widespread support.
    Still, a better idea would be to create an artificial language, distilled from all aboriginal languages, and have that as Australia’s second language. That would get more interest in their culture, and help them to assimilate into mainstream Australian society. You could call it ‘Tongue-second’.

  13. duncanm

    The DNA tests can be interesting. I had one done and found out that I’m 16% Scandinavian .. Just assumed that my ancestors came from Britain and Ireland.

    maybe you can claim some sit-down money for the ancestral rape and pillaging ?

  14. jupes

    Separate representation is inherently racist and the Liberal government have been wise to reject that notion out of hand.

    Ease up Sinc, Wise?

    The Liberal Party is a left wing party only a few years behind the Greens. The current government’s policies are more left wing than TLS’ government. TLS was against homo marriage remember.

    If by some miracle this pathetic bunch retain government, then they will introduce an Abo Parliament with exactly the same enthusiasm Tim Wilson showed when he ‘proposed’ to his bum-boy.

  15. NuThink

    Still, a better idea would be to create an artificial language,

    Like Esperanto.
    https://youtu.be/UzDS2WyemBI

  16. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    An Aboriginal equivalent of Esperanto, but made up from Aboriginal roots.

  17. Louis

    Nicholas
    That is already what almost all Aboriginal languages are. There are multiple more words needed for things that they didn’t had a word for than they did.

  18. RobK

    There are multiple more words needed for things that they didn’t had a word for than they did.
    Then it’s just a case of how you string them together. ☺

  19. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    Good thing they already had a word for string then!
    But look at how English makes words. With craft, you can come up with air-craft, and space-craft. That’s how you string them along….

  20. RobK

    you can come up with air-craft, and space-craft. 
    I believe the Germans are the masters of those type of strings.

  21. Dr Faustus

    Separate representation is inherently racist and the Liberal government have been wise to reject that notion out of hand.

    True and true. One of Turnbull’s better performances.
    Unfortunately the notion has not gone away and will be back to join us shortly – and then some.

    The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner June Oscar AO and all the former Social Justice Commissioners have called for a referendum on constitutional recognition within five years.

    “We must establish a Truth and Reconciliation Royal Commission, establish and constitutionally enshrine a national Voice, and develop strong accountability mechanisms and allow Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander participation in Senate Estimates processes.

    “Measures such as these are critical if this country is to make good on its commitments under the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples to provide Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples with freedom from discrimination, as well as self-determination, participation in decision-making, and the protection of our language and cultures.

    Shorten has already signed up to cynically encourage the process. Hard to see a national dialogue on the UN’s vision of self-determination and compensation proceeding smoothly – ferocious fires of lawfare are already being prepared for any naysayers.

  22. AussieMAGA

    “racism bad” according to NPC Sinclair and libertardian choir

  23. Kneel

    ““racism bad” according to NPC Sinclair and libertardian choir”

    Of course, you realise that NOT taking account of someones race is being racist, right?

  24. John Constantine

    Introducing a range of new seats, for those identifying as aboriginal would preserve an indigenous voice in a Big Australia of eighty million imported revolutionary freedom fighters.

    We can expect a double voting right, where indigenous voters get to vote in their existing electorates as well as shortens branch stacked ones.

    House of Lords style seats for Big Men in the senate?.

    Their Geoff Clark would be among the first elected.

    If Scomo doesn’t do it, shorten will, and shorten won’t do it for conservative outback Christian aboriginals, but as extra seats for urban activists.

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