I think Paul Collits is cross

A fantastic diatribe on Tony Abbott and the Liberals by Paul Collits over at Quadrant Online. Paul is riffing off the op-ed Abbott has in the Australian this morning.

Yes, there are all sorts in the Liberal Party: old wets, climate wets, the gay mafia, friends of the ABC, libertarians and free speech warriors, big spenders, small government types, Big Australia types and small immigration champions, and social conservatives.  And then there are the seat warmers and ministerial leather lovers.

Magnificent – read the whole thing.

Before some of you get too excited – I don’t agree with Paul on many issues (nor him with me – I see he has defriended me on Facebook) but he has written up his annoyance at the Liberals beautifully.

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53 Responses to I think Paul Collits is cross

  1. Roger

    John Howard destroyed the Liberal Party.

    What we’ve witnessed since is merely its death dance.

  2. stackja

    ALP/MSM created expectations. LNP was convinced to meet some of them.
    JH was not responsible for people voting in RGR.

  3. Damienski

    You have to hand it to Mr Collits. He does have a magnificent turn of phrase.

    Mr Shorten is “a flip-flopper, an opportunist, a politically correct creature whose murine instincts long ago made loyalty and truth alien concepts”.

    I wish I could express that sentiment as well as Mr Collits did. Prime Minister (in waiting) Murine.

  4. Paul Collits, everything he said in that article, I agree with.

    And yes, I’m cross too.
    I pray that an overwhelming number of conservative voters are just as cross.

  5. thefrolickingmole

    I see he has defriended me on Facebook

    Thats the uni equivalent of the black spot in the hand or horses head in the bed??

    Not a bad article though, there is precious little worth salvaging from the “announce our immediate surrender then negotiate the best treaty we can with the leftist Zerg” party.

  6. zyconoclast

    I think Paul Collits is cross

    I think he is being far too kind. (probably for legal reasons)

  7. Biota

    Just a question, has there ever been a competent Australian government? From my perspective of running a small business the Howard years were good compared with what went before, and particularly the recession we had to have.

  8. Death Giraffe

    How come there are more comments on the cat about the Quadrant article than there are at Quadrant?

  9. Roger

    JH was not responsible for people voting in RGR.

    Arguable, but he did turn the Liberal party into the broad church Collits identifies in the quoted para..

  10. Grunter

    Great piece, however imho I’ve come to consider Tony Abbott (who I once thought would be a great PM) as an apparent conviction politician with little or no conviction.

    When he was Leader of Opposition I thought “wow”. When he became PM I thought “wow” from a diametrically opposed position.

    What is he afraid of?

  11. Roger

    How come there are more comments on the cat about the Quadrant article than there are at Quadrant?

    You must be a subscriber to leave a comment.

  12. H B Bear

    JH was not responsible for people voting in RGR.

    The Father of Middle Class Welfare (and Hyacinth Bucket) failure to provide an orderly hand-over to Costello, particularly when it became clear he was past his due date and getting carved up by Liar hollow man KRuddy, gave the Liars a rails run into government.

    He wasn’t the first to cling to power until turfed out by voters and he won’t be the last but this was a true sliding doors moment for Australia. Costello was the Lieboral’s best parliamentary performer by a long way and was perfectly capable of destroying KRuddy in less than 12 months.

  13. Speedbox

    Good article. Any chance the SloMo or his mates will read it? Any chance that some of it may sink in?

    Yeah, I know. (sigh)

  14. Boambee John

    Death Giraffe
    #2851661, posted on October 29, 2018 at 3:49 pm
    How come there are more comments on the cat about the Quadrant article than there are at Quadrant?

    You have to be a subscriber to post comments at Q on Line.

  15. Herodotus

    When he was Leader of Opposition I thought “wow”. When he became PM I thought “wow” from a diametrically opposed position.
    While he was opposition leader the wets/black handers were happy to let him rip, do the hard yards. Once they were on the Treasury benches it fairly quickly became a campaign to replace him and promote not just Mal but themselves. Many in the media assisted because they hated Tony for winning against their pet project.

  16. thefrolickingmole

    Costello was the Lieboral’s best parliamentary performer by a long way and was perfectly capable of destroying KRuddy in less than 12 months

    Factcheck: True.

  17. Herodotus

    Costello was also very good at taking apart reporters firing what they thought were searing gotchas, only to find themselves schooled and made to look stupid.

  18. stackja

    HBB – Costello quit and only TA was left to really fight. Why did Costello quit? I don’t know.

  19. Ellen of Tasmania

    Wow – he’s almost as cross about the LINOs as me.

    So, why aren’t most Liberal voters cross enough to vote AusCons in the senate?

    Re: Costello. As I understand it, he felt didn’t have enough support from Lib pollies to replace Howard. In the light of what has happened since, that makes sense.

    It’s stupid beyond reason to think you can be such a ‘broad church’ that you stand for everything which means nothing, or vice versa. The Libs are the Uniting Church of politics.

  20. areff

    You have to be a subscriber to post comments at Q on Line.

    It’s cheap and if Quadrant doesn’t have subscribers, it folds.

    It’s a buck-and-small-change per week ($59 annually) for 12 months.

    https://quadrant.org.au/subscribe/

  21. Peter Greagg

    stackja
    #2851708, posted on October 29, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    HBB – Costello quit and only TA was left to really fight. Why did Costello quit? I don’t know.

    I assume Costello thought that when the party didn’t support him against Howard, was wasn’t inclined to do the hard yards in Opposition (2 terms at least).

    Of course he didn’t realise that RGR would be a complete shambles of a Goat Rodeo, and that he probably would have won against TLS.

  22. destroyer d69

    A perfect statement in support of the proposition to dismiss both houses of parliament forthwith.Give us a responsible (and responsive) caretaker administration untill a new election can be held with genuine candidates and policies with Australias best interests and outcomes at the forefront can occur.

  23. H B Bear

    HBB – Costello quit and only TA was left to really fight. Why did Costello quit? I don’t know.

    Costello is on record as saying he didn’t hang around because he knew he would be white anted by Lord Waffleworth who had already torn down Nelson by that stage. Spot on judgement unlike The Father of Middle Class Welfare and Artie.

    When KRudd won government he was riding a wave of popularity virtually unseen in Canberra and looked like the Liars were set for 2 or 3 terms at least. KRudd’s monumental narcissism and incompetence saw him out within the first term.

  24. Snoopy

    When KRudd won government he was riding a wave of popularity virtually unseen in Canberra

    Thank you, Kochie. Thank you, Joe.

  25. H B Bear

    I assume Costello thought that when the party didn’t support him against Howard, was wasn’t inclined to do the hard yards in Opposition (2 terms at least).

    The Father of Middle Class Welfare had lost the numbers before the 2007 election but refused to stand aside. Costello indicated he was not prepared to challenge as it would be too destabilising ahead of the election. Your observations about not wanting to do the hard yards in Opposition are likely correct.

  26. Iampeter

    He’s not so much cross as he is just totally confused, as is typical for today’s conservatives.
    It’s really not clear what he’s saying in his article, but listing more of the same random issues and random positions with random non-political suggestions.
    Bottom line is, Liberals have no political ideas or ideology and spend their time in office implementing the lefts agenda. The few ideas they do have, like marriage and immigration regulation, is even MORE left wing than that of Labor.
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the issues with Abbott and his ilk, is none of the random things mentioned in the article, but the fact that like most conservatives today, he is a politically illiterate, leftist.

  27. H B Bear

    Thank you, Kochie. Thank you, Joe.

    Sloppy Joe reminds me of the dopey retriever in Lawson’s The Loaded Dog. A waste of space from go to whoa. David Koch-head just doing his job.

  28. Rebel with cause

    It is unreasonable to expect a strong conservative movement when many of the institutions that underpin conservatism are so profoundly weakened and consistently undermined. The family, the church, our local sporting clubs and societies, the free market, the rule of law, the moral framework of our society…

    I could go on, but simply to say that the decline of the Liberal party reflects and the further encourages the broader decline of our society.

    I think for many these feel like the twilight hours of Australia.

  29. Elle

    Re Quadrant
    Andrew Bolt promotes The Spectator. He should also promote Quadrant on-line and Quadrant in print. Considering Bolt sometimes links to Quadrant on-line on his blog and his friend, Tony Abbott, has written for Quadrant. You’d think he would give Quadrant exposure.
    We need more sensible, right of centre forums given the exposure they deserve.

  30. Dr Fred Lenin

    My opinion of the Costello resignation was, he knew te party was riddled with white ant clmateers led by an inept turnbull ,it give you some idea of the quality of the left wingers when turnbull was a Shoo in as leader of the opposition within the now so called liberals ,a man whose career was a litany of failures In every field , failed lawyer ,failed merchant wanker , failed Howard minister , failed republican and finally failed PM and leader of the left wing liberals ,good backstabber though learned that at law school . The liberals are infiltrated too much to recover ,they are now a wing of the globalist gangrene socialist international dominated by the insidious manipulative mongrel schwartz ( soros) .

  31. Petros

    Taking apart reporters, Herodotus, should be one of the main skills to have if wanting to be a minister. If they can’t do that then they should just sit on the backbench at best. If Abbott had Trump’s ability to fire back with a witty retort then he would probably still be PM.

  32. egg_

    Thank you, Kochie. Thank you, Joe.

    Sloppy Joe reminds me of the dopey retriever in Lawson’s The Loaded Dog. A waste of space from go to whoa.

    +1

    An arrogant dolt.

  33. Squirrel

    “the past five years have been about “personalities”, not policy or philosophy.”

    One way or another, that might have something to do with the fact that the Government elected in 2013 came to power with not very much in the way or detailed, thought-through, ready-to-roll policy – and some potentially promising work (e.g. in the social welfare area) done in Opposition seemed to disappear without trace after that election.

  34. manalive

    Paul Collits’s “trifles” are the proper business of government, the “core business” as he describes them are matters for individual conscience not the State.

  35. Tel

    John Howard destroyed the Liberal Party.

    What we’ve witnessed since is merely its death dance.

    No, Malcolm Fraser killed it, with massive incompetence and gutless refusal to undo the damage done by Saint Witless and co.

    Howard was a warmonger, gun grabber, and wannabe totalitarian who picked the best moment to seize power, but the Liberals had lost their way long before Howard.

  36. Roger

    No, Malcolm Fraser killed it, with massive incompetence and gutless refusal to undo the damage done by Saint Witless and co.

    Fraser was the Abbott of his day – formidable in opposition, terrible in government – but he didn’t do any structural damage to the party.

  37. H B Bear

    If Abbott had Trump’s ability to fire back with a witty retort then he would probably still be PM.

    Trump has both by-passed and destroyed the US MSM. He is a great orator as his rallies demonstrate. Abbott was a stumbling, poor speaker. Listening to him was painful, even if you wanted to hear the message.

  38. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    Well to all the Lib haters on here, consider the alternatives. Have you looked at Shorten’s policy on climate change for example or perhaps double taxing self funded retirees who have some shares? Maybe give a deep thought on how expensive electricity will become under him. We have clear and frightening realities in both South Australia and Victoria to draw on. State wide blackouts etc. Or perhaps the totally callous disregard shown by the Victorian government in abandoning the desperately needed major road and the horrendous waste of over a billion dollars. Reality says Shorten and Co willl be worse. Then the destruction of the housing market with his plans. What about the illegal immigrants waiting in line for Labor to win to begin pouring into our country again. Especially people who are coming to colonise us never to integrate. Etc, etc, etc. Be very careful what you wish for!

  39. Rebel with cause

    Compulsory voting encourages pollies that need and want to be loved by everyone except the voters they have already locked in.

  40. John Constantine

    Their shorten looting cartel are proud to be at war with old Australia, and will happily genocide the entire culture as long as they get first pick of the used boots and the gold teeth.

    Their ex-turnbull coalition team do not fear their base, only lefty activists and chrissy pyne.

    Vote for the lib scum, then do not let them live a moment without the fear the left have of being purged.

    Comrades.

  41. candy

    You can’t have a Trump in Australia because their party (Labor or Libs) would knife them if they said something controversial and the next poll went down, even if the party believed what their leader said was right. They are so frightened.

    It would take some tough characters but I don’t see them. Dutton and Abbott, but the rest are so scared of saying boo about anything controversial. They simply do not believe in themselves or anything much. So scared of saying anything that gets people thinking.

    My gut feeling is that Australians are looking for a Trump type but at the same believe anything the main media say and apathy wins the day.

  42. Paul Collits’s “trifles” are the proper business of government, the “core business” as he describes them are matters for individual conscience not the State.

    No, I think his point was fair. He means to say that matters relating to size of government, deficits, and trade are matters of degree as well as prudence whereas matters relating to abortion, marriage, religious freedom and the like are matters of principle.

  43. Cynic of Ayr

    John Howard’s version of the Liberal Party – “A Broad Church” is fine as far as rhetoric goes.
    However, how does one define “Broad”?
    At the moment, the “Broadness” runs from Far Left (Turnbull) to far right. (I dunno? Hastings?)
    Anyway, doesn’t matter. The crux of the problem is that the “Broad” extends way too far to the left!
    What’s the use of having Labor Policy Advocates in the Liberal Party?
    Turnbull, Pyne, Bishop (Closet Lefty) et all are of this ilk. And now it seems that Morrison, Taylor and a myriad of others are too.
    All are hell bent of this Climate Change drivel!
    There is nothing different between Labor and Liberal with Climate Change Policy, and yet the sensible populace doesn’t give a hoot! It’s seventh down the list of concerns.
    Stupid bloody Morrison says, “We are going to drive Electricity Prices DOWN!”
    Ten seconds later, Taylor says, “We are going to buy several Billion Dollars worth of renewables, and prices will go UP!” (The stupid bastard doesn’t say/think prices will go up, but they will! They have to!
    So, that’s my take on it. The “Broadness” extends way to far to the Left.

  44. mareeS

    I like being in the Liberal Party, and leaving, and being in the Liberal Democrats and leaving, because we can have great arguments, come and go, without being physically bashed. Labor/unions have a bad record on that.

  45. jupes

    It’s really not clear what he’s saying in his article …

    Only if you are imbecile.

  46. Crossie

    Good article. Any chance the SloMo or his mates will read it? Any chance that some of it may sink in?

    ScoMo is disabled, totally blind except to his ambition and tone deaf to what anyone outside his inner circle has to say. He is a younger version of Turnbull with worse hair and diction.

  47. None

    What Rebel said. Or as Andrew Breitbart used to say,politics is downstream from culture.

    What Dover said.

    What Crossie said. I’ve long warned that Slo Mo was a dud who loves politicking but is a policy free zone.

  48. egg_

    “the past five years have been about “personalities”, not policy or philosophy.”

    One way or another, that might have something to do with the fact that the Government elected in 2013 came to power with not very much in the way or detailed, thought-through, ready-to-roll policy – and some potentially promising work (e.g. in the social welfare area) done in Opposition seemed to disappear without trace after that election.

    +1

    Credlin’s behaviour, more as a Media Manager than actually Governing the Nation with Policies and Leadership – still playing the “small target” with the reins of Govt in hand, because “mean gurrls” in Opposition and apparently one’s own Party – insane!

  49. egg_

    The crux of the problem is that the “Broad” extends way too far to the left!

    Either that or they’re cucked by any threat from the Left of the House, from Abbott onward, appeasing the Left.

  50. egg_

    Maybe give a deep thought on how expensive electricity will become under him.

    Aunty says that CAGW is toxic with Joe Public, the above should seal the deal on the Windmill Mafiosa.

  51. DaveR

    John Howard is the most able Prime Minister I have experienced in my adult life. Even today he is able to make crystal clear comments which blend the concept of Liberal values with the Australian way of life, at the same time damning the ALP and Shorten, completely captured by the left.

    He is also the politician I consider to have made the biggest political error I have experienced in my adult life, in believing he was bigger than the party in his later years in office. By denying Costello the Prime Ministership, he denied Australia stable government and consigned the country to decades of political instability and a series of difficult Senates.

    The impending (or actual) split in the Liberal party, driven by the inability of the Turnbull wets to understand their policies are not capable of a political majority in today’s environment, whereas the Abbott right’s are, are probably Howard’s legacy as well.

  52. Paul Collits’s “trifles” [the size of government or deficits or trade] are the proper business of government, the “core business” [conflicts over ultimate values, over life issues, over the meaning of marriage, over freedom of conscience, over the rights of the religious in the public square, over the dictatorship of relativism] as he describes them are matters for individual conscience not the State.

    There is another thing too, apart from what I said above. It is hard to make sense of the claim that any of the issues Collits referred to as the ‘core business’ are no more than a matter for individual conscience. Take the life issue of abortion. Is the claim that these are matters of individual conscience mean that killing your unborn child from conception to the immediately prior their exit of the womb is simply a private matter? Why is this merely a private matter for the parents but a parent smothering their child in her cot a month later now a matter for the law? Similarly, in what sense are the rights of the religious in the public square only a private matter of individual conscience? What is precisely at issue is their ability to fully participate in public life without having to quarantine their beliefs. Moreover, what typically occurs in these situations is that arguments that are entirely philosophical and non-sectarian are claimed to be ‘religious’ and thereby justifiably ignored in the public square.

  53. PB

    “ALP/MSM created expectations.” Absof***kinlutely.

    The MSM could destroy Shorten overnight if the will to do so was there. Mainstream editorial manipulators still rule the public mind in this country.

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