Listen Scott: Make Tony Deputy Leader of the Libs

I was going to put this up when I saw the front page story in The Oz on the weekend: Tony Abbott calls for Liberal voter unity. I didn’t then, but today there was this which pushed me a little closer: Newspoll: Scott Morrison takes significant personal hit in wake of Wentworth by-election. But then there was this, picked up at QoL:

Scott: you have to show you really care about the Liberal base, and even more, that you really care about this country. And this is how you do it. You make Tony Abbott the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party so that we can see that the views of us over here are taken into account. Even better, you will be able to bring the party together. Better still, you will be able to fashion a policy platform that will get you over the line, you know: lower real cost of energy, an improving economy and stopping the boats.

Why this is not obvious to you is beyond reason.

And just this now up at The Oz: Nauru a ‘very pleasant island’: Abbott urges PM to hold firm on asylum seekers. Sounds like a winning policy to me.

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48 Responses to Listen Scott: Make Tony Deputy Leader of the Libs

  1. I think it’s all wishful thinking that the Liberals can reform from their Leftist march. There simply aren’t enough of the old guard remaining to burst the bubble that the majority live in.

    There’s almost a collective insanity within the Liberal Party where they think they can keep doing the same thing, hoping for a different outcome. It’s like a bunch of zombies moving about aimlessly.

  2. Motelier

    Sorry Steve, you are wrong on this. The Libs have changed irreversibly since Howard got tge boot.

    Remember how “strong” Abbott appeared after the 2013 election? Remember how he rolled over for a tummy tickle from the left within 6 months of that election?

    The only answer for the Libs that feel left out is to take over the branches, for pre-selection votes for candidate and turf out the present LINO incumberts.

  3. Singleton Engineer

    NEM, right now, middle of a weekday.

    Wind + Other 7%
    Gas 49%
    Coal 44%

    Tripling wind and solar might add another 10% actual, displacing some coal. Hydro (part of “Other”) will probably stay right where it is and gas seems set for continued expansion.

    That’s no big deal, so why the $15B?

  4. Sinclair Davidson

    I’m hoping that Morrison would do the exact opposite – ask Abbott to not recontest his seat. In fact Turnbull should have done that in 2016.

  5. Hay Stockard

    The Linerals are toast. Bunch of bed wetting incompetents. And I’ll never forgive the State ones for what they have done to Anzac Parade.

  6. I’m hoping that Morrison would do the exact opposite – ask Abbott to not recontest his seat. In fact Turnbull should have done that in 2016.

    I’m guessing that you think Scottie has potential?

    The principal free zone that is the Liberal party will be butchered. Get used to the idea.

  7. RobK

    Im inclined to think either the liberals should acknowledge Abbott’s loyalty for trying to reform from within and bring him back in cabinet(but not as leader-that didn’t work) , or the nuclear option for the lot of the tainted heavy weights. (Not wishing to sit on the fence, but both Kates and Sinc have a point.)
    Being some half-baked version of labor is futile.

  8. RobK

    What have they got to lose?

  9. Ivan Denisovich

    hoping that Morrison would do the exact opposite – ask Abbott to not recontest his seat. In fact Turnbull should have done that in 2016.

    Or better still, that Howard hadn’t persuaded Turnbull to stay in politics.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    Why is this Sinc?

    Because having former PMs hanging around is a distraction.

  11. Hay Stockard

    They are supposed to represent their electorate. They should do their term. Teach them humility. If they leave early they alone should bear the cost of the by election.
    Just my two bobs worth.

  12. Cassie of Sydney

    “Sinclair Davidson
    #2851511, posted on October 29, 2018 at 1:07 pm
    Why is this Sinc?

    Because having former PMs hanging around is a distraction.”

    Really, so how does that explain the unpleasant distraction that is the venal ex-member for Wentworth? He’s no longer PM, he’s no longer in Parliament and yet he is proving to be a very big and nasty distraction for Morrison and the Liberals…and you know what, because it is part of his continuing grand plan to malign and destroy the Liberal party, this venal ex-member for Wentworth intends to keep on hanging around. He’s having fun, probably the most fun he’s ever had in his life…..he isn’t going anywhere.

  13. Roger

    Sorry Steve, you are wrong on this. The Libs have changed irreversibly since Howard got tge boot.

    Correction: the rot started precisely with Howard and his “broad church”.

    And most, if not all, of the policies that are destroying the country today, such as the immigration Ponzi scheme and mandated renewables, were begun on Howard’s watch.

  14. Sinclair Davidson

    He’s no longer PM, he’s no longer in Parliament and yet he is proving to be a very big and nasty distraction for Morrison and the Liberals

    Not at all. The Delcons got exactly what they wanted. Malcolm gone as PM and out of the Parliament and politics.

    So how is that working for them?

    Slow clap Delcons slow clap.

  15. OldOzzie

    Cassie of Sydney
    #2851523, posted on October 29, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    “Sinclair Davidson
    #2851511, posted on October 29, 2018 at 1:07 pm
    Why is this Sinc?

    Because having former PMs hanging around is a distraction.”

    Really, so how does that explain the unpleasant distraction that is the venal ex-member for Wentworth? He’s no longer PM, he’s no longer in Parliament and yet he is proving to be a very big and nasty distraction for Morrison and the Liberals…and you know what, because it is part of his continuing grand plan to malign and destroy the Liberal party, this venal ex-member for Wentworth intends to keep on hanging around. He’s having fun, probably the most fun he’s ever had in his life…..he isn’t going anywhere.

    TURNBULL ‘LIKES’ POLL SHOWING LIBS WILL LOSE
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun

    October 29, 2018 8:22am

    What more evidence do the Liberals need that Malcolm Turnbull is their enemy – a man who saw the party merely as a ladder to becoming prime minister?

    Now Turnbull “likes” a tweet saying the latest Newspoll shows the Liberals losing support – now 46 per cent to Labor’s 54 – after the Wentworth byelection, which Turnbull did his best to help the Liberals lose.

  16. a happy little debunker

    No matter what your thoughts of ex-PM’s staying in Parliament or acting as a distraction outside of Parliament – Tony is a fighter & it makes little sense not to use all your assets in this ‘fight’.

    The more conniptions the opposition have over Tony – the more power they give him.

  17. OldOzzie

    Turnbull likes negative polling tweet as Morrison shrugs off Newspoll

    Scott Morrison has brushed off his descent into negative personal polling territory in today’s Newspoll after Malcolm Turnbull liked a tweet showing the Prime Minister’s numbers going down.

    For the first time in his nine weeks as prime minister, Mr Morrison’s dissatisfaction ratings are bigger than his satisfaction ratings at 44 per cent of voters disapproving of his performance compared to 41 per cent approving.

    “These things bounce around and that’s the case for all politicians. But it just doesn’t distract me from the job I have,” Mr Morrison told K Rock FM in Geelong.

    “When you become prime minister in the way that I did, I wasn’t planning for that to occur at that time, but when you have to step up for the leadership as I did, you just get on with the job and the people you’re trying to help.

    “I frankly don’t have the time to focus on those sorts of things.”

    The government is also facing a wipe-out at the next election according to Newspoll with Labor’s two-party-preferred lead over the Coalition increasing by one point to 54 per cent versus 46 for the government.

    Today’s Newspoll results would be concerning for most Coalition backers. But former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has liked a tweet which showed the preferred prime minister gap between Mr Morrison and Bill Shorten closing.

    Mr Turnbull appeared to remove his like of the Newspoll tweet later in the morning.

    Anthony Albanese said Mr Turnbull’s Twitter activity and reported delays for people trying to access the old age pension were signs the government needed a “mercy rule” to allow it to more easily call an early election.

    “It is quite extraordinary that people are having to wait to receive an aged pension,” the opposition infrastructure spokesman told reporters in Brisbane.

    “Now that we have this revelation today, we have Malcolm Turnbull is out there liking a tweet that Mr Morrison’s numbers have gone down in Newspoll … We have dysfunction and chaos wherever we look.

    “Perhaps it’s time to have a mercy rule in politics whereby things are so chaotic that the government just calls an election because if you can’t actually process a form for a pensioner who has turned pension age … this is an indictment of a government that simply is incapable of performing basic functions.”

    Mr Morrison still leads as preferred prime minister at 43 per cent of respondents, but that is down 2 points from the last Newspoll.

    The Opposition Leader’s preferred leader rating has gone up one point to 35 per cent.

    Opposition communications spokeswoman Michelle Rowland said Labor was not focused on Newspoll and would continue to roll out policies rather than being a “small target”.

    “We’re very focused on ensuring that we present ourselves as a credible alternative government,” she told Sky News “We will be prosecuting our case in the lead up to the next election which will be very close.”

    “A lot of people have given advice that the best thing Labor could do is be a small target and Bill Shorten expressly rejected that from the outset.”

    Meanwhile, Scott Morrison has demanded the competition watchdog take “action” on rising petrol prices.

    The Prime Minister said Australian Competition and Consumer Commissioner Rod Sims should be investigating why motorists are paying upwards of $1.60 a litre.

    “This one is a really tough problem because we have got a lot of issues pushing the prices up which are outside Australia, which are things that are outside of our control,” Mr
    “But I want some answers out of the ACCC, I mean they are the cop on the beat, they are the ones that we fund to go out and monitor why prices are moving up and down and how they are timed, that is their job, that is Rob Sims’ job, to make sure that all these petrol companies, these fuel companies do the right thing by customers.

    “So if they are not, he has the powers, he has the resources, to investigate them and I expect them to get on and apply the pressure, that is why we have an ACCC, it is to deal with that precise issue.”

    Mr Morrison said he gave more powers to the ACCC to take action on fuel companies when he was treasurer.

    “There are some things we can’t control, like what is happening with international oil prices and things like that, that is outside what any government can do, but we can ensure that the people selling it here behave,” he said.

    “I am expecting some action.”

    Earlier this month, Mr Sims said motorists were paying too much for petrol.

    “In our view, margins are two to three cents a litre too high,” Mr Sims said.

    “That’s $400-600 million — that’s a lot of money for Australian motorists.”

  18. Entropy

    Abbott would better off keeping his hands clean on the backbench, and becoming opposition leader after the fall.

  19. Abbott would better off keeping his hands clean on the backbench, and becoming opposition leader after the fall.

    Well, he most probably will be opposition leader, he will only need a dozen or so party room votes.

  20. I’m guessing that you think Scottie has potential?

    Sinc thought Turnbull had potential. We now know what sort of potential he had.

  21. Boambee John

    Doomlord

    Not at all. The Delcons got exactly what they wanted. Malcolm gone as PM and out of the Parliament and politics.

    He might be out of Parliament, but he is still in, and will remain in, politics until he has has his final revenge on those who did not recognise his potential greatness.

  22. Entropy

    To be fair, Turnbull has turned out exactly how a lot of people in this biology predicted. Exactly.

    But it seems Sinc isn’t prepared to admit it.

  23. Entropy

    That would be ‘blog’

  24. stackja

    MD and others still delusional about MT.

  25. Entropy

    True IR.
    Abbott can handle a fire truck. He would have no trouble driving the Tarago required to Ferry the party representatives after the next election.

  26. Leo G

    Because having former PMs hanging around is a distraction.

    If Robert Menzies had been properly expunged in 1941, the Liberal Party would not have been created and we might have been spared decades of distraction.

  27. stackja

    Leo G – Australia would still have petrol rationing. And little private development.

  28. Leo G

    Leo G – Australia would still have petrol rationing. And little private development.

    Prosperity is such a distraction.

  29. Muddy

    With Labor as the Opposition and their feral cousins the Year Zero Party (the ‘Greens’), any barely competent Government under any competent leader could and should have destroyed the image and reputation of both in the eyes of the public. There was so much ammunition available that Federal Parliament might have been almost blotted out with crime scene tape. I’m not normally into slasher films, but that one had ‘box office smash hit’ written all over it.

    Yet here we are.

  30. Boambee John

    While historical parallels are never exact, at present Australia seems to be following the latter days of Weimar. We have the public and private degeneracy and decadence (Mardi Gras, SSM, rampant serial or consecutive partner swapping among our “elites”), financial mismanagement, government always playing, badly, catch-up tonan apparently invincible opposition

    With Labor and the Greens seemingly within months of forming government, I wonder has Shorten already drafted his Enabling Act, to complete the parallel?

  31. Boambee John

    to an, not tonan!

    Posted on Small Dead Animals recently. Posters have a five minute editorial opportunity after posting there, would be nice to have such here.

  32. Rafe Champion

    Steve what is the point of the Angus Taylor quote?

  33. Boambee John

    Further to my post at 1538

    The brownshirts of Antifa are already on our streets.

    I wonder whether Shorten will find it necessary to do a “Night of the Long Knives” on them at some stage. The CFMMEU would probably provide the Schutz Staffel to do the job, but with concrete sandshoes rather that guns and blades.

  34. Makka

    Slow clap Delcons slow clap.

    We aren’t there yet Sinc. When the Lib house is smoldering pile of rubble, then we can congratulate ourselves. Your potentially greatest PM evah has pretty much finished off the Libs with Scummo about to go down with the ship.
    You may accept this wet gay band of jelly backed leftist misfit in the Liberal Party but there are many who despise them. They are getting their just desserts.

  35. JC

    Steve K

    Abbott was the most destructive liberal PMs in history. It would be a huge mistake.

  36. JC

    Makka

    Perhaps you can explain to the readership why Turnbull was so bad on a relative basis. On a relative basis!

  37. Makka

    JC, why don’t you explain why you continue to support Turnbull and the Lib jellybacks. Other than they aren’t Labor , that is.

    Turdball is a symptom of the leftist disease infesting the Libs. Which is why I’ll be happy when they self destruct.

  38. JC

    Answer the question for a change.

  39. Jannie

    Supporting the Liberals because they are not Labor is like supporting the Socialists because they are not Communists.

    The main difference is how quickly they get there, but they end up in the same place.

  40. The Fifth Bike Rider of the Apocalypse

    Why is this Sinc?

    Because having former PMs hanging around is a distraction.

    One SloMo distraction coming up!

    I’m sure he’ll be able to get by hosting kid’s parties when he’s booted.

  41. Boambee John

    Doomlord

    Yesterday you said:

    Not at all. The Delcons got exactly what they wanted. Malcolm gone as PM and out of the Parliament and politics.

    Now, Malcolm in Indonesia says:

    NEWS

    AFL

    SPORT

    ENTERTAINMENT

    BUSINESS

    LIFESTYLE

    REAL ESTATE

    MOTORING

    CLASSIFIEDS

    Andrew Bolt Blog Posts
    TURNBULL PLAYS PRIME MINISTER: CONTRADICTS MORRISON POLICY
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    19 minutes ago
    So who is our Prime Minister? Is it Scott Morrison, who two weeks ago said he was considering moving our Israel embassy to Jerusalem?

    I am open to further pursuing (moving the embassy) and doing that together with Cabinet colleagues,” Mr Morrison said. “I am saying I’m open to considering it.

    Or is it Malcolm Turnbull, who Morrison foolishly asked to represent him talks with Indonesia’s president?:

    The conclusion that I took, and my government took, after very careful and considered advice was that a policy that is well over 40 years old, 50 years old, should remain exactly the same as it is…

    The President expressed to me, as he has done to Prime Minister Morrison, the very serious concern held in Indonesia about the prospect of the Australian embassy in Israel being moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

    There is no question, were that move to occur, it would be met with a very negative reaction in Indonesia. This is after all the largest Muslim-majority country in the world. We have to be very clear-eyed about that, and we have to take into account Australia’s national interests, and our interests in the region, when we consider a decision like this.

    He seems to think that not only is he still in politics, he is stil PM!

  42. Boambee John

    Sorry, not sure what happened there, I thought I posted only the quotes from Turnbull.

  43. Bob in Castlemaine

    So the deindustrialised wasteland of Australia will reach its 2030 commitments in a canter? Really, who gives a rats?
    I give you the Angus and Scott show – Dumb and Dumber!

  44. rickw

    So the deindustrialised wasteland of Australia will reach its 2030 commitments in a canter? Really, who gives a rats? I give you the Angus and Scott show – Dumb and Dumber!

    Hilariously:

    These Two Idiots, All of Canberra, The Whole ABC and virtually all Civil Servants will be the first to die in the Dystopian Mad Max Australia that they are creating!

    In contrast, I will be the freaking mayor of Barter Town, because I know how to make fuel out of anything, including pig farts and I have truckloads of guns and ammo! 🙂

    Bring it on retards!

    PS: If you want Dumb and Dumber to be kept alive for the purpose of some future cage chainsaw match, please petition me immediately! No guarantees though, I have little control over what an energy starved mob might do!

  45. Kneel

    “… it would be met with a very negative reaction in Indonesia.”

    So?
    I am sick to death of being told that I “must respect” others, when they clearly disrespect everything and everyone associated with me, my family, my race, my religion, my sexuality and and my country!
    FUCK YOU LOT!
    You don’t have to like it – stay in your shithole and whinge, I don’t care. Will you consider Australia when thinking about what Indonesia should do? Of course not, and neither should you! Turn about is fair play, innit?
    Grow the fuck up!

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