Wednesday Forum: October 31, 2018

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  1. None

    Sky News. Another bunch of limp dicks.

  2. Mindfree

    I agree with IT though on Cameron – his love for Assange by trying to work him into the script whenever and his support for the ever totalitarian China (see Social Credit Policy) was over the top and just plain mistaken

    However, on the climate change, the boneheads in the liberal party and his take on the lunatics in the Greens and other lefty activist groups was worth watching

  3. Armadillo

    I need to apologise to Arky for dissing his Model-T Ford Project last night.

  4. Boambee John

    Isn’t it a Model A?

  5. Armadillo

    Nah. Just kidding. Sinc, can you delete my last comment?

    The spaminator is a marvellous contraption. Just throw it into reverse gear.

  6. jupes

    I agree with IT though on Cameron – his love for Assange by trying to work him into the script whenever and his support for the ever totalitarian China (see Social Credit Policy) was over the top and just plain mistaken

    All true.

    Nevertheless he was refreshingly different to anyone else on tele and a great foil to Rowan Dean as they perfected their conservative Roy and HG comedy routine.

  7. Armadillo

    Isn’t it a Model A?

    It’s whatever Arky wants it to be. It certainly doesn’t look like a car. He’s making it up as he goes along.

  8. jupes

    Hey Top Ender I received your book.

    Looks great, I’m trying to hold off reading it until I’m overseas early next year but I may not be able to do that.

  9. Cassie of Sydney

    I hope Ross & Rowan set up their own Youtube channel..I’ll subscribe.

  10. Armadillo

    I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it ends up with a big set of Buffalo Horns on the front grill.

  11. Armadillo

    And what’s the go with that “girly voice” in his videos? He sounds like that Ford Sheliah that testified against Kavenaugh.

  12. Arky

    If you go to the Disneyland in Shanghai on any typical morning of the week you’ll see twenty thousand black-haired, slanty-eyed, yellow-skinned Chinese desperate to get into Disneyland.” Cameron said on Tuesday night’s program.

    ..
    Big deal.
    I have two of ’em at home.
    Love them to bits. But ya know. They do have black hair, yellow skin and slanty eyes. Just like I have white skin, folded eyelids a huge bald spot and a big nose.
    So what?
    The history of this is: we were at war with the Japs, who did a lot of really shit things, and we needed to de-humanize the litte fuckers the easier to kill ’em.
    But that’s old history, and refering to it is the same as making jokes about the frogs being surrender monkeys, or the German’s penchant for taking a shit on each other’s chests.
    Just words.

  13. Armadillo

    I have two of ’em at home.

    How do you tell which ones which?

  14. Top Ender

    Hiya Jupes, was it Lethality?

    If so, danger Will Robinson.

  15. Arky

    How do you tell which ones which?

    ..
    Only by size.
    Otherwise identical.
    But in their defence, we all look the same to them too.
    Once went to pick the missus up from the airport. She had no idea who I was.
    And I had to double check that I had the correct asian bird.
    As far as she is concerned, I could be Brad Pitt.

  16. Senile Old Guy

    Hiya Jupes, was it Lethality?

    I bought that. Excellent.

  17. Armadillo

    As far as she is concerned, I could be Brad Pitt.

    This explains why Asian women wanting to marry Australian men are all over the Internet. I’ve often wondered about it. Mystery solved. Thank you.

  18. OldOzzie

    Why do meat-eaters hate vegans so much?

    replied to by James Delingpole

    Why are vegans so humorless?

    Yes, I accept that there are environmental costs to meat-eating, too.

    The difference is that carnivores don’t keep banging on about how selfless and noble they are every time they tuck into a juicy steak.

    Vegans, on the other hand, really do seem to imagine that they’re on a higher moral plane; and that furthermore, the only right thing to do is for everyone else to join them.

    This mildly sinister, proselytising side of veganism was brought home to me when I bought a carton of Oatly oat drink and noticed on the side, the legend: ‘You are one of us now!’

    I’m sure it was meant as a jokey piece of marketing. But lurking underneath is an unpleasant ‘them and us’ divisiveness.

  19. jupes

    Hiya Jupes, was it Lethality?

    Yep. Got the last hard copy from Amazon.

  20. OldOzzie

    Why do meat-eaters hate vegans so much?

    replied to by James Delingpole

    Why are vegans so humorless?

    Yes, I accept that there are environmental costs to meat-eating, too.

    The difference is that carnivores don’t keep banging on about how selfless and noble they are every time they tuck into a juicy steak.

    Vegans, on the other hand, really do seem to imagine that they’re on a higher moral plane; and that furthermore, the only right thing to do is for everyone else to join them.

    This mildly sinister, proselytising side of veganism was brought home to me when I bought a carton of Oatly oat drink and noticed on the side, the legend: ‘You are one of us now!’

    I’m sure it was meant as a j$key piece of marketing. But lurking underneath is an unpleasant ‘them and us’ divisiveness.

  21. OldOzzie

    Apologies for double post – first one disappeared

  22. old bloke

    I have to agree with Sky News sacking of Ross Cameron

    Maybe he should have called them rodent copulators, apparently that comment is fine with the lefties and will earn you a prime ministerial position.

  23. Armadillo

    At least Indian women all don’t all look the same.

    Exhibit A – Pocahontas.

  24. cohenite

    Ross Cameron has been sacked from Sky

    That’s fucked.

    Cameron and Dean were fun. Cameron is genuinely droll. First Latham, now Cameron. You simply cannot be irreverent on the fucking media these days.

  25. Arky

    Watching the latest Trump rally.
    You know, he doesn’t tire doing these all these stops because he gets energised doing it.
    He is one of those rare people who actually gets energy from meeting new people and making speeches.

  26. Arky

    Trump might be the only President who leaves office looking younger than when he went in.
    Guys a fucking machine.

  27. Leo G

    Maybe he should have called them rodent copulators

    Rabbit joiners sounds more contextual.

  28. Armadillo

    You simply cannot be irreverent in the fucking media these days.

    He should try out for a gig at our ABC, provided he can agree to slander the “right people”.

  29. Gab

    Arky, Trump is an extrovert.

  30. Arky

    Yeah.
    On the extreme end of the extrovert spectrum.
    Very rare.

  31. Armadillo

    You know, he doesn’t tire doing these all these stops because he gets energised doing it.

    You can sense he’s having fun and really enjoying it. He doesn’t give a shit.

  32. Ryan

    I think Outsiders has become quite stale in its current format, particularly after making the move to five airings per week. They have resorted to mostly just rehashing talking points regarding American politics from Fox News each day (seriously, they started lifting straight from Tucker and Hannity episodes from earlier in the day), and had very limited coverage of Australian issues apart from UN involvement. So I was starting to get tired of it. I was a massive fan of Ross on Paul Murray Live, and I think his greatest moments have all come during his appearances on that program.

    Sky have been utilising him in the wrong way I feel, but having said all that this decision to sack him is absolutely outrageous. I hope people will kick up a stink about it but somehow I doubt that will happen. As others have said he was actually disagreeing with Rowan by opining that China was not a strategic threat to Australia (a view that I disagree with myself). He proceeded to make the point that many of the 1.6 billion people who live there make a determined effort to learn English and embrace Western culture (hence the Disneyland reference) and that they are Australia’s largest trading partner with one out of four ships that leave our shores destined for China. He (in my view, wrongly) defended China’s actions in the South China Sea and made the point that China’s record of invading and dropping bombs on its enemies pales in comparison to acts taken by Western nations. He praised Deng Xiaoping’s efforts to reform the Chinese economy and lift millions of people’s standards of living.

    The bloke is one of the most prominent apologists for China in the Australian media, and yet one minor description of their physical appearance (with no malicious intent whatsoever) is enough for him to lose his job? This is an absolute f*cking disgrace, and I don’t even agree with the point he is making.

  33. Arky

    I watched a couple of Reagan’s speeches last night.
    Reagan was a good orator and a professional actor.
    However, I think he was lucky he wasn’t in a primary against Trump.
    Trump would have shredded him.

  34. lotocoti

    It seems the French enjoyed a culturally enriched Halloween.

  35. JC

    Arky

    Reagan was a gentleman and that’s what was needed at the time. He was a great president.

  36. rickw

    An armed militia in Texas is marching to the Mexican border to confront thousands of migrants making their way to the US.

    Up to 200 volunteers of the Texas Minutemen are heading to the Rio Grande River to join regular troops dispatched by President Trump, according to Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman who is president of the group.

    The USA has “layers of protection” thanks to it’s constitution.

    This will be a hunting trip to remember.

  37. W Hogg

    I see Our Timmy is bagging Dr Leigh. Now, I know it’s preferred that we don’t pile onto Dr Andrew Leigh, so I will refrain from taking sides on the matter.

    On an unrelated note, former academic Lee Andrews is a tosspot who should be beaten with an octopus.

  38. max

    Ryan, the thing Ross misses is Chinese desire to make up for historical humiliations. They have a big chip on their shoulder and it makes them crazy. It will only be satisfied by a war.

  39. rickw

    observers reported seeing a lone chef defending himself with a shovel against a gang of more than ten.

    Stimpy sighting?

  40. Helen

    Ross Cameron sacked from sky news for inappropriate comments regarding visitors to Disney land. Poor old Rowan is the last conservative standing.

  41. JC

    I rarely watch Sky. I know it’s horses for courses, but the few times I watched that show I couldn’t stand either of them. I found Cameron a little pompous unnecessarily verbose.

  42. Arky

    Reagan was possibly the greatest.
    Until now.
    I think Reagan and Thatcher, in hindsight made big mistakes.
    Understandable mistakes for sure.
    Too much concentration on Europe and the USSR. I see why, in the context of the times it looked important, but the Soviets were a spent force anyway, and it pushed us into bed with the disgusting Krauts, Frogs and useless Italians.

  43. classical_hero

    Reagan’s biggest mistake was amnesty. It turned California from a light red state to a dark blue state.

  44. Rae

    Reagan was a gentleman and that’s what was needed at the time. He was a great president.

    Reagan was possibly the greatest.

    No. Far from it.

    21 Reasons Why Ronald Reagan Was a Terrible President

  45. classical_hero

    Winston Smith, that video of ArmadiArmadillo was very funny.

  46. Whalehunt fun

    It will only be satisfied by a war.

    Disagree. CNA (complete nuclear annihilation) of China would satisfy me no end. If I was to be sworn in as president I would arrange to have the button wired to the lecturn so I could depress it as my hand moved down from taking the oath. China would last less than one second longer than the IBCM flight time.

  47. Arky

    Reagan could be a nice guy because those older generations were still traditionally religious.
    Those generations are now underground or sprinkled around memorial gardens.
    What Trump does is harder.

  48. Ryan

    JC The two shows I would say that are actually worth watching on Sky are Credlin and The Bolt Report. PM Live if he has decent panellists. The rest of the shows are either poorly presented or appear to be haphazardly put together. I spend more time watching Your Money these days.

  49. Caveman

    Next AOTY . Shes just a free and easy spirit. Yeah fuk dos white dogs.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    No. Far from it.

    21 Reasons Why Ronald Reagan Was a Terrible President

    There are many reasons to be skeptical of Reagan, but that list is largely bullshit.

  51. Mother Lode

    Isn’t it a Model A?

    The proper question is “What does it identify as?”

  52. Armadillo

    Winston Smith, that video of ArmadiArmadillo was very funny.

    No it wasn’t. Don’t encourage him.

  53. JC The two shows I would say that are actually worth watching on Sky are Credlin and The Bolt Report. PM Live if he has decent panellists. The rest of the shows are either poorly presented or appear to be haphazardly put together. I spend more time watching Your Money these days.

    Rita?

  54. rickw

    The proper question is “What does it identify as?”

    A tractor.

  55. Armadillo

    The proper question is “What does it identify as?”

    Junk.

  56. rickw

    munty quietly slips off the harken sock.

    Next they’ll be giving each other compliments and swapping family recipes.

  57. Snoopy

    From Rae’s 21 reasons why Reagan was a dud:

    Iraq is still the only non-allied country to attack a U.S. warship without retaliation.

    I wonder who the allied ones are?

  58. Armadillo

    Friday is traditionally “Mens Night” @ the Cat.

    Step away from your keyboards ladies. We’ll handle it from here…..

  59. Armadillo

    mOnts FREE night in other words.

  60. Bring on the beer, cigareets and whisky and wild wild women.

  61. Armadillo

    Get out the “smoking jackets” and ya Rum.

  62. RobK

    Rae,
    https://study.com/academy/

    Reagan

    When Republican Ronald Reagan was elected President of the United States in the Election of 1980, he ushered in what’s commonly referred to as the Reagan Revolution. His policies and approaches were so different from his Democratic predecessor, Jimmy Carter, that his administration was considered a sort of revolution. This Reagan Revolution was characterized by conservative free market economics, tax cuts, a bold foreign policy approach, and limitations on the power of the federal government. Reagan was a dynamic and popular president who served two terms, between 1981 and 1989. He had been a Hollywood actor before becoming involved in politics, and his ability to clearly communicate and resonate with the American people earned him the nickname ”the Great Communicator.” Let’s dig deeper and explore some of President Reagan’s major accomplishments.

    Reaganonomics and Tax Cuts

    We’ll highlight economic accomplishments first. President Reagan’s conservative economic approach became known as Reaganomics. Reaganomics was a supply-side, or ”trickle-down”, economic approach. It emphasized tax cuts and deregulation as the means of reducing inflation and fostering economic growth. Reaganomics relied on a laissez-faire, or ”hands off”, approach. Reagan believed the federal government should have its ”hands off” business, and that the government should not interfere in economic matters.

    Early in his first term, Reagan signed the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, which lowered federal income tax. During his second term, he signed the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which simplified the tax code and closed tax loopholes. Under Reaganomics, inflation and unemployment declined, while millions of new jobs were created. Compared with the Carter Era, the American economy as a whole was on better footing. Of course, please keep in mind, that the effectiveness of Reaganomics continued to be debated by economists and historians, and the contours of this debate often fall along political or ideological lines.

    The New Conservative Movement

    Let’s look at the social and cultural accomplishments of President Reagan. Let’s go back to the term ”Reagan Revolution”. In a nutshell, Ronald Reagan revitalized the Republican Party. Before he had taken office, the most recent Republican president had been Richard Nixon, who was forced to resign from office after being involved in the Watergate Scandal. This was a low point for the GOP, an acronym for ”Grand Old Party”, a nickname for the Republican Party. With Reagan and his revolution came a new sense of enthusiasm for conservative values. Patriotism and American nationalism were high within conservative circles. During his reelection campaign in 1984, Reagan aired a television commercial containing the line, ”It’s morning again in America.” This line reflected an optimistic outlook: now that Reagan was president, things were once again good in America. Reagan’s conservatism help solidify the ideals of the neo-conservative movement and have had a profound impact on the Republican Party that’s felt to this day.

    Foreign Policy & the Cold War

    Reagan’s accomplishments are probably most visible in the area of foreign policy. Reagan was staunchly opposed to communism, and he took a hard-line stance against the Soviet Union and other communist nations. He publicly called the Soviet Union an ”evil empire”, and in 1987, demanded that Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev tear down the Berlin Wall…….

    This from a mere mortal.

  63. Arky

    I declare the second gay happy hour night on the cat open.
    Gays only from now on until 10.
    See yiz later.

  64. Full lyrics at http://www.metrolyrics.com/cigarettes-whiskey-wild-wild-women-lyrics-jim-croce.html
    An old traditional song.

    Chorus:

    Cigarettes, whiskey and wild, wild women
    They’ll drive you crazy, they’ll drive you insane
    Cigarettes, whiskey and wild wild women
    They’ll drive you crazy, they’ll drive you insane

    Stimpy would like the song.

  65. Armadillo

    Stimpy would like the song.

    The anti-Semitic little bastard is supposed to be behind the bar. He’s late.

    Probably in the carpark with a needle in his arm engrossed in reading Mein Kampf.

    I’d dock his pay, but I wasn’t intending on paying him anyway.

  66. John Constantine

    Wasn’t thirsty until I read the words ‘Happy Hour’.

    A culture like this, and their miserable left want to genocide it.

    To the Happy Hour.

    Comrades.

  67. miltonf

    Reagan could be a toughie too- his time for choosing speech (for Barry Goldwater in 1964) is incisive and brilliant. Didn’t taking sh*t from student radical trash in 60s when he was Gov of Ca.

  68. RobK

    Ill put the firefighter on the ute so we can hose the joint out in the morning.

  69. Armadillo

    Nice moustache, Johno. Welcome.

  70. Helen

    A fellow in Katherine went out this morning at sparrows, as he always does, to look at the garden and the weather, had a scratch, went back in, got some brekkie and next minute a fellow walks in the open door and armed with a stick the brekkie eater was thinking he would make into a walking stick and had left outside, attacked him. He survived, the fellow ran off when the wife of the house erupted out of the bedroom. The brekkie eater is not young, but not weak either, otherwise he would likely be dead.

    Attacked in your own home, over breakfast.

  71. Mother Lode

    An armed militia in Texas is marching to the Mexican border to confront thousands of migrants making their way to the US.

    This will be a hunting trip to remember.

    Wait for a photograph of a militiaman sitting on the hood of his car drinking Tequila to turn into reports of rednecks driving around with dead Mexicans strapped to the bonnet of their cars, “Yee-hah!!!!

    That said, I am not really sure what the point is. The border operation will be a military thing, professionals trained to high-pitch precision in much more than handling weapons. How would amateurs be incorporated into that?

    There is a point to militia – but this is not it.

  72. Armadillo

    Ill put the firefighter on the ute so we can hose the joint out in the morning.

    Don’t bother. That’s women’s work. They can clean up the mess in the morning.

  73. Armadillo

    How did Helen get past the doorman?

  74. Cassie of Sydney

    Re. Ross Cameron, Sky has capitulated to the left once again, as the organisation did with Mark Latham. And now the left will come after Credlin, Bolt and PML. Ultimately, the left want to permanently shut Sky down however in the meantime they’ll settle for the removal of offensive “Sky after Dark” programmes such as Credlin, PML, Bolt and Alan Jones. With Cameron’s removal today, Sky has further emboldened the leftist cabals of activists and organisations such as GetUp. Watch out Sky.

  75. RobK

    Jeez, its only 3pm here, I’d better put a few more hours in for the firm. The joys of being self-employed.

  76. Armadillo

    Catallaxy security needs an urgent upgrade.

  77. Helen

    I identified as a bloke and the doorman was too scared to stop me.

  78. Delta A

    I’ll leave this esky of (meat-based) nibbles by the beer fridge. Have fun, fellas.

  79. Wade

    Some of the folks here “sick of the double standards” as it relates to Ross Cameron’s sacking, vis a vis the non-sacking of lefties, cry out for Cameron’s right to free speech without the perspicacity to realise that they are the exact same kind of folk who have denied that same right of free speech to Stimpy.
    There’s a word for it – chutzpah.

  80. Helen

    ZK2A or any of you WA good fellows, do you know of an organisation who supports farming families from South Africa find sponsorship in OZ?

    Reason is, we would like to offer to sponsor a dry land cropping family. We would like to make enquiries now, but are waiting on some government paperwork before we can commit, I understand it is a long process so it might be prudent to be forearmed.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    RossCameron should not have been sacked. He was not being racist. He described a particular ethnic group, with no racist or malicious intent. I’ve listened to the recording. Context and tone are everything!

    Indeed. This is a political sacking, no doubt about it. Cameron is a great supporter of the Chinese as our trading partners and demonstrably of the Chinese people as well. The ‘problem’ is a fabricated one in order to rob the program of its format and strengths in presenting a variety of views from the CENTRE RIGHT.

    When left wing views are presented in ways that might be similarly questioned, there is a free pass to them. Ross Cameron should be invited back, allowed to apologise for words that were poorly chosen in haste late at night, and that did not convey his real meaning in support of the many Chinese people visiting a facility such as Disneyland, nor did they convey his known admiration for the Chinese people in Australia and in China.

    We have recorded every segment of Outsiders and watch it with great interest. A cancellation of our Foxtel subscription is now very possible as Netflix and other internet sources provide for many of our viewing needs. They did not have Outsiders. Now Foxtel does not have Outsiders in any recognisable form any more. Replacements are unacceptable.

    Firing Mark Latham was one step. This now is a step too far for many loyal watchers of Skye.
    INVITE HIM BACK NOW. Remove that bullet from your foot, Skye. In this media environment you cannot afford to lose too many friends.

  82. Armadillo

    Urgent message to doorman: Check incoming clientele for lipstick, high heels and handbags.

    Not necessarily a “dead set giveaway” that it might be a Sheilah, but it’s usually a pretty good indicator.

  83. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ZK2A or any of you WA good fellows, do you know of an organisation who supports farming families from South Africa find sponsorship in OZ?

    I’ll put out a few feelers, Helen and get back to you.

  84. Zatara

    That said, I am not really sure what the point is. The border operation will be a military thing, professionals trained to high-pitch precision in much more than handling weapons. How would amateurs be incorporated into that?

    It’s a very, very long border. The military can’t be everywhere.

    Those militia have probably hunted in those hills since they were teenagers and know them like the back of their hands.

    For those reasons they could be priceless as scouts and force multipliers .

  85. Helen

    Thanks ZK2A, I’ll check back later, in a day or two or three.

  86. JC

    Australian’s Wish has a piece on this year’s contenders for the architecture award.

    I have to say the mosque design is really freaking gorgeous as a design…. 🙂

    If it wins the award, it’s possibly legit and no one’s sucking up… in case Cronkite puts out that spam.

    https://wishmagazine.theaustralian.com.au/1194993/commercial-architecture-awards/

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Wade, Stimpy can come on here any time and say what he likes and be responsible for it.
    That’s how this place rolls. No-one is physically stopped from posting unless Sinc brings in his axe.

    Ross Cameron has been axed in a political killing. That is somewhat different and I and thousands of others are very unhappy about that. Currently, unless one wishes to dive into the Twitter sewer, which I don’t, there is no way to make an internet protest except on small sites such as this. The Australian tells the tale but there is no possibility of making a comment about it even if you are premium subscribers as we are.

    I think a strong letter in snail mail to the errant and arrant Managing Director with our reasons for resigning our Foxtel subscription, which we maintain mainly because of Outsiders, may be the best way to proceed now.

  88. Pedro the Ignorant

    For Helen, re her Saffa query; I am not in the agri business, but Dalwallinu in Western Australia has a good percentage of former South African farmers in the district, and this group is dedicated to improving agricultural techniques and community involvement.

    They may be able to assist you.

    Web page here Liebe Group Dalwallinu.

  89. Armadillo

    I think a strong letter in snail mail to the errant and arrant Managing Director with our reasons for resigning our Foxtel subscription, which we maintain mainly because of Outsiders, may be the best way to proceed now.

    Mail bombs and anthrax envelopes are so “yesterday”. I always suspected it was just a fad.

  90. cohenite

    https://wishmagazine.theaustralian.com.au/1194993/commercial-architecture-awards/

    Piss off head prefect; I clicked on your wankfest and after wretching at the pair of pouting, dead eyed beta males framed in pink on the second page gave up; if there’s a fucking mosque in there the stupid farts deserve all they get.

  91. Mitch M.

    Grifols demonstrates a significant reduction (61%) in the progression of moderate Alzheimer’s disease using its AMBAR treatment protocol

    This is a very promising clinical trial result. It is not a cure. It represents the result of animal research that was conducted a over a decade ago. I can’t cite that research because I only stored it in my head and I am not going data mining for it because it is now irrelevant. Here’s a hint: give blood. Read the article to understand why.

  92. Tintarella di Luna

    Me thinks Ross Cameron has been given the Megan Kelley treatment

  93. Ryan

    Tintarella the difference is that Megan Kelly’s NBC ratings were abysmal, while Outsiders have pulled in really good numbers this year by Sky standards. I too will be sending letters to the Managing Director regarding this, unfortunately I don’t think there’s much more that can be done for Ross.

  94. Elle

    Wade, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Stimpy has the right to his view, as do all of us. People have reacted to Cameron’s sacking. Stimpy can too. I don’t think Sinc has blocked him.

    Rowan Dean will rock on! Love his work! Love the Spectator!

  95. Roger

    I accidentally tuned in to Phillip Adams on my automobile’s wireless radio signal receiving device this afternoon.

    He referred to the Ramsay Centre Western studies proposal being promoted by “red pilled, upmarket alt-Right devotees”.

    Not exactly how I’d describe John Howard or Joe de Bruyn.

  96. JC

    Cronkite

    You obviously clicked onto the gay fashion week. It wasn’t by accident that you went there, it was by choice because you don’t have to navigate by clicking the side arrow to get there. As you’re aware, all you needed to do was scroll down. Stop being a contentious dick. Scroll down and look for it.

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Nice lunch, but difficult in some ways, having to keep off politics as a topic due to highly divergent opinions, more recognised on our part than on theirs, because lefties always immediately assume everyone agrees with them. The Zeitgeist is left. A sorry state of affairs.

    Now we have to face eating out again in another hour. Feeling very downcast about Ross.
    I’d prefer to be at Cat Drinkies where we can all collectively drown our sorrows.

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I accidentally tuned in to Phillip Adams on my automobile’s wireless radio signal receiving device this afternoon.

    Condolences, Roger.

  99. Myrddin Seren

    Jordan Peterson goes another easy sparring round with a journalist who thought she would knock him down in the first round.

  100. Rowan and Rita would be a good team.
    As for Cameron, management can’t have a guy on air when you don’t know what will come out of his mouth next.
    It’s a media business not a blog. Media Watchdog had his erratic behaviour as a regular feature.

  101. I caught a few minutes of The Drum tonight. Greg Sheridan was painfully inarticulate in his defense of Sydney Anglican’s open letter to the government in support of the current exemption to the anti-discrimination Act. The other panelists, apart from Rod Bowers, for the most simply don’t understand the issue nor have I ever heard of them.
    Sheridan is dead to me now. His betrayal over marriage redefinition can’t be forgotten. He had an opportunity to give an articulate defense of marriage but he chose to bat for the other side. He and Frank Brennan.

  102. wivenhoe

    I’ll leave this esky of (meat-based) nibbles by the beer fridge. Have fun, fellas.

    Ahh, a question if I may, Delta. Does your version of meat based nibbles include testicles and penises?

  103. JC

    The Oz the story on what Cameron said. Lol, why on earth did he say that?

  104. Elle

    I reckon Rowan and Blair … as in Tim Blair … would be awesome!

  105. Roger

    I accidentally tuned in to Phillip Adams on my automobile’s wireless radio signal receiving device this afternoon.

    Condolences, Roger.

    Thank you, Lizzie.

  106. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    As for Cameron, management can’t have a guy on air when you don’t know what will come out of his mouth next.

    Yes, you can. His political views diverge from Rowans, and that is good.
    So what if his expressions are sometimes less than ‘perfect’ for the politically correct?
    He is never malicious, and that is main point. Dancing to the PC tune is exactly what is not needed.

  107. JC

    Can anyone recall .. was Latham booted or did he resign?

  108. Cameron is the master of his own failures Lizzie.
    He shot his mouth off to a journo about an affair and lost his seat.
    Repeat performance.

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    Here’s a hint: give blood. Read the article to understand why.

    Hehe, a great way also to rid yourself of all sorts of stuff like lead, mercury, cadmium and thallium.
    I’ve been contaminating needy blood recipients with heavy metals for decades!
    They don’t seem to mind.

  110. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    my automobile’s wireless radio signal receiving device

    This sound just like me struggling for a lost word. Drives Hairy bonkers.
    Searching for our table mats, I once could only come out with anti-clatter devices.

    Speaking of automobile devices, Jeremy Clarkson reviewed the Audi Q5 GPS in very unfavourable terms. I am totally with him. It is not touch screen. You have to manipulate setting it by a multi-functional toggle knob working around an alphabet circle on the screen after selecting from a series of press-down plates near the auto gearstick that are supposed to mimic the screen corners, all while driving, if you are in a hurry as we were today. Hairy and I came to grief over it, with me toggling and getting nowhere; turn on your phone to Google maps and do it that way, he snapped.

    I refuse to have another Audi because of the hideous GPS. Otherwise they are a fantastic car, and great to drive with superb power overtaking. Funny how one small defect can turn you off the whole thing.

  111. Snoopy

    Hehe, a great way also to rid yourself of all sorts of stuff like lead, mercury, cadmium and thallium.

    For God’s sake don’t mention that to a Red Cross blood Nazi. She’ll ban you.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Gotta go and wrestle with it all again.
    See y’all.

  113. max

    Roger, a couple of days ago Adams had a great interview with the Irishman, Toibin about his latest on the relationship Yeats, Wilde and Joyce had with their fathers. It’s when Adams gets on to politics that he becomes insufferable. Unfortunately, that is often.

  114. areff

    Victoria’s Bernie Finn, who has a radio background, might fill Cameron’s shoes.

  115. I refuse to have another Audi because of the hideous GPS. Otherwise they are a fantastic car, and great to drive with superb power overtaking. Funny how one small defect can turn you off the whole thing.

    Try some of the offerings from VW, excellent internal finish or Peugeot if you like the Euro configuration on your vehicle

  116. Rae

    Some of the folks here “sick of the double standards” as it relates to Ross Cameron’s sacking, vis a vis the non-sacking of lefties, cry out for Cameron’s right to free speech without the perspicacity to realise that they are the exact same kind of folk who have denied that same right of free speech to Stimpy.
    There’s a word for it – chutzpah.

    I know you’re following the meme, but the word for it is – hypocrisy.

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Latham was brutally booted, for a very small misdemeanour.

  118. Elle

    Areff, what about Blair? He deserves a regular television gig.

  119. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Grigs, go take your next dose of whatever chemo you’re on, there’s a good man.
    You are doing nothing useful here except bringing out the Mother Theresa in me.

  120. mh

    Latham has been booted from Sky News many times. He’s made more returns than Freddy and Jason.

    The last sacking was when someone interpreted a comment as homophobic.

    Other sackings include sticking it to Andrew Robb, alleging that he was using depression as a cover.

  121. Atoms for Peace.

    Nothing like the sepulchral tones of Phillip on the ABC to brighten one’s day.

  122. OldOzzie

    Police investigate gang muggings, assaults in Melbourne

    Samantha Hutchinson – Victorian State Political Writer

    Victoria Police are investigating a string of frightening incidents at St Kilda last night involving what is believed to be teenagers of African appearance, including a mugging and an assault, after observers reported seeing a lone chef defending himself with a shovel against a gang of more than ten.

    A police spokesman confirmed this morning Victoria Police was investigating two incidents at St Kilda overnight, including reports a man had his phone and wallet stolen after being surrounded by a gang of 10-15 males, and another incident in which a 25-year-old man was assaulted.

    According to the police, a man was walking on Jacka Boulevard when he was approached by another man who demanded his phone and wallet about 10pm.

    A group of about 10-15 males surrounded the victim and assaulted him, stealing his phone. The 23-year-old victim was assessed on scene for minor injuries.

    At about 10.35pm, a 25-year-old man in the same area was approached by a group of youths and assaulted. Police understand the offenders tried to take the man’s wallet, but were unsuccessful.

    CCTV footage captures robbery in St Kilda

    The victim received minor lacerations to his head during the incident and was treated on scene. Another man, who was with the victim, was also assessed at the scene but did not require any treatment.

    “The offenders in both incidents are perceived to be of African appearance,” police said.

    Police confirmed the investigation after a number of listeners called 3AW’s Neil Mitchell with reports that chefs of an up-market restaurant chased a number of youths of African appearance away with kitchen knives, after an incident at the restaurant.

    Eyewitness John, from Albert Park, told the radio station and The Australian that he had seen a group of teenagers of African appearance running towards a chef on Jacka Boulevard who was defending himself with a shovel.

    Speaking to The Australian, he said he believed someone could have been killed in the incident.

    “I initially thought it was a Hallowe’en prank, but then I realised ‘hang on, this is real’ when I had to swerve to avoid hitting the guy,” the telecommunications worker said.

    “And this chef was running backwards, and he tripped on the median strip before having to get back up again and keep running.

    “Any car coming down the street could have hit him. It was a life or death situation, he had ten or fifteen kids surrounding him and they were coming for him. They really wanted to get him.”

    The observer said he saw another fifteen or twenty youths of African appearance in a neighbouring carpark watching on as the group ran after the chef.

    He also said he saw the group chasing the chef throw a witches hat at the man, which then hit his moving car.

    Victoria Police said they are investigating whether the two incidents are linked.

    Investigators are speaking to a number of witnesses and looking for any footage that is relevant to the incident.

    Apologies can’t find a link to the Police Video, obviously the Political Correct Police Service of Victoria do no want to arrest anyone so you can’t view their CCTV Video – Welcome to VictoriaStan

  123. jupes

    Iraq is still the only non-allied country to attack a U.S. warship without retaliation.

    I wonder who the allied ones are?

    Israel attacked the USS Liberty during the Six-Day War.

    Australia might have sunk the odd US ship too if I remember correctly.

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Nup. We had both Peugeot and VW as hire cars for one of our many hires in Europe.
    Pretty basic, I thought. We did have a snazzy Jaguar at one time, but performance just OK-ish.
    I am going to try a smaller BMW soon, or a saloon Merc. Germans can actually make good cars.

    Thinking of getting a Mazda 3 specifically for the young crowd to learn to drive on.-
    Everyone recommends them for that. We will keep it, under supervision, till they get competent.

    Oh lookit the time. ….. com-ing, I said I was coming.

  125. Snoopy

    That’s right. I had forgotten the USS Liberty.

  126. Top Ender

    Mazda 3 is a good car Lizzie, but we ended up buying a Kia Cerato and a Mazda CX-3 when we were shopping around. Both impressed us more than the 3 and the Toyota Corolla.

    Toyotas now seem to be run by a company with the attitude: “You want a Toyota, then give use the money and here’s the keys.”

    Anything along the lines of “Do you throw in headlight protectors?” or whatever was met with an incomprehension act. Kia and Mazda definitely the reverse.

  127. Fisky

    There are many reasons to be skeptical of Reagan, but that list is largely bullshit.

    Without even bothering to read the list, I am certain the 1986 illegal immigrant Amnesty signed by Reagan will NOT feature on there. Flipped California permanently blue, caused a baby boom among welfare-recipient Hispanic illegals, provided a magnet for further illegal immigration….etc etc.

    Dumbest decision ever made by a Republican.

  128. Marcus

    JC
    #2855282, posted on November 2, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    The Oz the story on what Cameron said. Lol, why on earth did he say that?

    Well, let’s face it, he could be a bit of a twit every now and then.

    I wonder if maybe he was on a warning from management. In retrospect, there have been a couple of occasions in the last month or so where Rowan Dean’s had to jump in and apologise for any offense caused either by Ross or one of his guests, so it was almost like he was trying to save him from himself.

    It’s a pity, but not entirely unexpected. I wonder if Piers Akerman will take over that slot?

  129. max

    Nothing like the sepulchral tones of Phillip on the ABC to brighten one’s day.

    He sounds crook. Something’s going on.

  130. Atoms for Peace.

    Lizzie. There are aftermarket navigation options for Audi Q5. Look at the Alpine range…

  131. Fisky

    Reagan was a dumb open borders conservative who claimed that Hispanics were “natural Republicans”. He got a miserable 30% of the Hispanic vote no matter how much he pandered to them.
    Trump gets about that anyway, despite calling them r.p1sts, which is a little on the harsh side but they do need to get their house in order.

  132. Zatara

    Australia might have sunk the odd US ship too if I remember correctly.

    Two USN PT boats sunk by the RAAF off of New Britain in 1944. 8 dead, 12 wounded.

  133. Mitch M.

    Hehe, a great way also to rid yourself of all sorts of stuff like lead, mercury, cadmium and thallium.
    I’ve been contaminating needy blood recipients with heavy metals for decades!
    They don’t seem to mind.

    Unfortunately Bruce I have not found studies supporting the idea but I have been telling friends for decades to give blood for precisely that reason.

  134. mh

    Ben & Jerry’s Israel Distances Itself From Anti-Trump Ice Cream Flavor

    ……On Wednesday, Ben & Jerry’s Israel arm distanced itself from the move.

    “Ben & Jerry’s Israel is an independent and Israeli company,” it wrote on Facebook, noting that all of its products and ingredients are manufactured and sourced locally.

    “We have no connection to the decisions made by the global brand, and we don’t get involved in local or world politics.”

    The company said that it would not be selling “Pecan Resist” and will “continue to work and act for the community and for Israeli society.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2018/11/01/ben-jerrys-israel-distances-itself-from-new-anti-trump-flavor/

  135. Arky

    Lizzie, but we ended up buying a Kia Cerato

    ..
    Peasant.
    Lizzie bought one of those just to use as a spitoon.

  136. Armadillo

    Wow. That full interview of Peterson posted by Myrddin earlier is a cracker.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYQpge1W5s

  137. Arky

    You should see what her and old Hairy use the Hyundai they had installed in the master ensuite for.

  138. mh

    Trump gets about that anyway, despite calling them r.p1sts, which is a little on the harsh side but they do need to get their house in order.

    Four Sexual Predators Apprehended with Migrant Groups in South Texas

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/01/four-sexual-predators-apprehended-with-migrant-groups-in-south-texas/

  139. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
    #2855292, posted on November 2, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    my automobile’s wireless radio signal receiving device

    This sound just like me struggling for a lost word. Drives Hairy bonkers.
    Searching for our table mats, I once could only come out with anti-clatter devices.

    Speaking of automobile devices, Jeremy Clarkson reviewed the Audi Q5 GPS in very unfavourable terms. I am totally with him. It is not touch screen. You have to manipulate setting it by a multi-functional toggle knob working around an alphabet circle on the screen after selecting from a series of press-down plates near the auto gearstick that are supposed to mimic the screen corners, all while driving, if you are in a hurry as we were today. Hairy and I came to grief over it, with me toggling and getting nowhere; turn on your phone to Google maps and do it that way, he snapped.

    I refuse to have another Audi because of the hideous GPS. Otherwise they are a fantastic car, and great to drive with superb power overtaking. Funny how one small defect can turn you off the whole thing.

    Lizzie,

    use a Ipad Pro with Sim Capability (or your Mobile Phone) and Google Maps and RAM Mount on Windscreen or Load Hema Maps and use a GPS Re=radiating Antennea

    AUD $99 delivered in 1 week including ebay paying GST 10% vs AUD $199 in OZ for the same

    PS Google Maps did not work in China but in UK and Europe – Superb – Hema Maps great for OZ

    With regard to Audi – have DSG Gearbox Auto which is damn dangerous and every SMH Drive test of DSG on VW/Skoda/Audi . Mercedes A Class has always mentioned hesitation on take off which from my experience with all 4 Brands of their DSG is scary – you don’t know if the car will go into the roundabout let alone the cost when you have to replace the clutches if you are dumb enough to keep those DSG Cars that long

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mitch – The trouble is as Snoopy says. The ARCBS is paranoid, so it gets harder and harder to be allowed to donate, and the cut off is 70 anyway. If you can make it to 70 without being put on the scrap heap for something or other you will have done very well indeed.

  141. C.L.

    So a bloke was sentenced to ten years today for encouraging his ailing wife to commit suicide.
    The media – and especially the ABC – are bringing to the fore of their coverage his Christian fundamentalism and desire to use a $1.4 million insurance payout to set up a Rapture compound.
    But that is obiter.
    The real point is that a man has been sent to prison for doing what pro-euthanasia fanatics do all the time: encourage vulnerable and sick people to kill themselves.

  142. Helen

    Thanks Pedro, I will check it out.

  143. Boambee John

    Australia might have sunk the odd US ship too if I remember correctly.

    USS Frank Evans in mid 1969, off Vietnam.

    Small ship must not cross in front of the aircraft carrier!

  144. Top Ender

    Yes, but with a Kia she would get a spittoon with a seven-year warranty, Arky.

    I note Model T’s come with a spittoon on either side, over the door.

  145. Mitch M.

    Mitch – The trouble is as Snoopy says. The ARCBS is paranoid, so it gets harder and harder to be allowed to donate, and the cut off is 70 anyway. If you can make it to 70 without being put on the scrap heap for something or other you will have done very well indeed.

    Last I heard even if you smoked cannabis in the distant past you were prohibited from donating.

    That experiment to some extent mirrors the other experiments which showed simply transfusing young blood into the animals have big health effects. I think there is now a black market for that.

    The other option is blood letting but I don’t think doctors are allowed to do that except for haemochromatosis.

  146. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    Toyotas now seem to be run by a company with the attitude: “You want a Toyota, then give use the money and here’s the keys.”

    What do you mean “now”?

    Back in the mid 1970s, I got a better price for my trade in by going to the nearest “Friendly Freddy’s Cash For Cars” than the Toyota dealer would offer.

    Tried Toyota again about 20 years later, same attitude!

  147. Top Ender

    Interesting.

    The Australian‘s article “Ross Cameron sacked as Sky News Outsiders co-host” had comments running under it for a while. Now they have all vanished and there are no comments allowed.

    They were running 90% in his favour, so I’m not sure why the Oz reacted that way.

  148. Boambee John

    Max at 1948

    He sounds crook. Something’s going on.

    He is almost 80, and I have a faint recollection of a serious illness a couple of years ago.

    Won’t give up his vanity spot, though. Will have to be carried out in a box.

    Lefties live and die for leftism, no understanding of the joy of living.

  149. Top Ender

    I see BJ.

    Have never bought a new Toyota before. Always went to Pickles and bought cars with a year of warranty left on them.

    When the last rotation was necessary I was just too full on to spend the time needed to get something worthwhile.

    Always impressed by their durability though. Picked up a Camry with 6000 kilometres on it once. Went for seven years without missing a beat, and only sold it as it had been dented by one of the kids a bit too much. Stupid me.

  150. mh

    BOM Brisbane forecast max temp for Thursday 29 C, max temp reached 27.8

    BOM Brisbane forecast max temp for Friday 28 C, max temp reached 27.1

    BOM constistently forecast max temps higher.

  151. Boambee John

    Zatara
    #2855322, posted on November 2, 2018 at 7:51 pm
    Australia might have sunk the odd US ship too if I remember correctly.

    Two USN PT boats sunk by the RAAF off of New Britain in 1944. 8 dead, 12 wounded.

    USN sank the POW ships Montevideo Maru in 1942 and the Rokyu Maru in 1944. Well over 1000 Australian deaths from those losses.

  152. The real point is that a man has been sent to prison for doing what pro-euthanasia fanatics do all the time: encourage vulnerable and sick people to kill themselves.

    Lyle Shelton made the same point on twitter today to furious protests by the usual morons. But as you both argue, if this scoundrel committed this act in Victoria it would have been perfectly lawful, and he would have collected the life insurance, because the cause of death is doctored under the law here to appear as having died of natural causes rather than an intentional act.

  153. Boambee John

    Despite tales of the actual horrors of the Burma-Siam railway, a major kiler of Australian prisoners of the Japanese was the US submarine campaign. The Japanese did not mark the shios, and tge submarine captains were ordered to conduct unrestricted submarine warfare.

    At least one in seven of ghe Australians who died in Japanese hands died on those two ships.

  154. P

    Interesting coverage of the Ross Cameron sacking by The Guardian.

    Mentioned by The Guardian article is Sleeping Giants Oz Twitter which is also interesting.

  155. Peter

    No Media Watchdog from Gerard yet. Is he OK?

  156. Top Ender

    I have spent some time in debate over the last five years with a few chaps who insist the Armidale raft survivors were finished off by a Japanese submarine.

    Their argument is they were spotted by a Catalina, which couldn’t land due to the sea conditions. By the time a ship reached the datum point the survivors had vanished.

    Interestingly enough, sea battle survivors were sometimes treated more humanely than those Allied personnel captured on land.

  157. Three racist ducks went out one day
    Over the hills and far away
    Racist duck said quack quack quack quack
    And only two racist ducks came back

    Two racist ducks went out one day
    Over the hills and far away
    Racist duck said quack quack quack quack
    And only one racist duck came back

    😀

  158. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the never ending hypocrisy and lies of the left

  159. OldOzzie

    WSJ – The Lesson of 2018

    Even if the Democrats end up winning, they showed progressivism is a losing message.

    By Kimberley A. Strassel
    Nov. 1, 2018 6:26 p.m. ET

    In a few days the U.S. will have its midterm results, and the Beltway press corps will lecture us on the lessons. Don’t expect to hear much about the one takeaway that is already obvious: that today’s preferred progressive politics—of character assassination, mob rule, intimidation and wacky policies—is an electoral bust. It is not what is winning Democrats anything. It is what is losing the party the bigger prize.

    Six weeks ago, Democrats were expecting a blue wave to rival the Republican victory of 2010, when the GOP picked up 63 House seats. Everything was in their favor. History—the party in power almost always loses seats. Money—Democrats continue to outraise Republicans by staggering amounts. The opposition—some 41 GOP House members retired, most from vulnerable districts where Donald Trump’s favorability is low. Democrats were even positioned to take over the Senate, despite defending 10 Trump-state seats.

    Democrats obliterated their own breaker in the space of two weeks with the ambush of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. The left, its protesters and its media allies demonstrated some of the vilest political tactics ever seen in Washington, with no regard for who or what they damaged or destroyed along the way—Christine Blasey Ford, committee rules, civility, Justice Kavanaugh himself, the Constitution. An uncharacteristically disgusted Sen. Lindsey Graham railed: “Boy, y’all want power. God, I hope you never get it!”

    A lot of voters suddenly agreed with that sentiment. The enormous enthusiasm gap closed almost overnight as conservative voters rallied to #JobsNotMobs. Even liberal prognosticators today forecast that Republicans will keep the Senate and Democrats will manage only a narrow majority in the House, if that. It’s always possible the polls are off, or that there is a last-minute bombshell. But it remains the case that the ascendant progressive movement blew an easy victory for Democrats.

    Meanwhile, to the extent Democrats are winning, it has been in large part due to party leaders’ quiet but laborious efforts to sequester that movement. Yes, talk-show hosts have made a darling of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the progressive activist who defeated incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in a New York primary. And liberal pundits are already claiming a victory by left-wing Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum in Florida’s gubernatorial race will prove America aches for Medicare for All.

    But on the ground, Mr. Gillum and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez are the anomalies of this cycle. The far bigger if less covered story is the extent to which Democrats have run candidates with conservative credentials, or candidates who can’t run fast enough from liberal positions.

    For all the talk of the “year of the woman,” it is equally the year of the Democratic “veteran.” In battleground after battleground district, Democrats recruited former service members as their candidates: Amy McGrath in Kentucky, Richard Ojeda in West Virginia, Jason Crow in Colorado, Jared Golden in Maine, Conor Lamb in Pennsylvania, Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey, Max Rose in New York. By at least one count, more than half the veterans who’ve run in 2018 are Democrats—a huge shift, and a reason some traditionally GOP districts are competitive.

    Senate races, meanwhile, have been entirely defined by the extent to which Democratic candidates have positioned themselves as “moderates.” Arizona’s Kyrsten Sinema, a self-described “Prada socialist” and onetime antiwar activist, now insists she would be an “independent” voice in favor of bipartisanship. Nevada’s Jacky Rosen was one of three House Democrats who voted in September to make the Trump individual tax cuts permanent. Missouri incumbent Claire McCaskill is running a radio ad boasting she “is not one of those crazy Democrats.” Asked on Fox News about her Senate colleagues, she took a swipe at Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

    All of this is reminiscent of 2006 and 2008, when Democrats won Congress by running moderates and then the White House by nominating a candidate who promised to unite the nation. Only after the party jerked left did the GOP win its 2010 blowout.

    Will it be different this time? The moment the polls close on Tuesday, it will be wheels up for the 2020 presidential campaign. And save for Joe Biden, every current leading contender for the Democratic nomination either was a ringleader of the Kavanaugh spectacle (Sens. Cory “Spartacus” Booker and Kamala Harris) or is a progressive icon (Ms. Warren, Mr. Sanders, Kirsten Gillibrand).

    If Democrats win Tuesday, it will be despite this crowd, not because of it. They’d be wise to remember that a vote to rebuke President Trump’s inflammatory politics isn’t the same as an embrace of a progressive agenda or its candidates. The Democrats’ own recent history and campaign strategy prove it.

  160. Zatara

    USN sank the POW ships Montevideo Maru in 1942 and the Rokyu Maru in 1944. Well over 1000 Australian deaths from those losses.

    Boambee John, I was just answering a question. I didn’t know we were keeping score.

  161. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    full GQ interview

  162. OldOzzie

    A Consequential Congress – WSJ Editotial

    The 115th has the best record of center-right reform since 1994-1996.

    By The Editorial Board
    Nov. 1, 2018 7:14 p.m. ET


    Americans love to hate Congress, and no wonder given the careerists and poseurs in both parties. But some Congresses matter more than others, and the 115th has accomplished more useful conservative reform than any since the first Newt Gingrich years of 1995-1996.

    Democrats won’t admit it for partisan reasons, and neither will some of the perpetually angry on the right. But the GOP’s narrow Senate majority of 52 seats and then 51 has turned out to be more consequential and conservative than the 55-seat GOP majority of 2005-2006, the last time Republicans controlled both Houses and the Presidency.

    The looming election is a useful moment to review the tape on the successes and disappointments, and consider the stakes of a Democratic House, Senate or both.

    Tax Reform. Republicans broke the economic logjam of the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and the new 21% rate with 100% business expensing has helped to lift the U.S. economy to a higher growth plane and again made it the most competitive.

    The individual reforms were more about passing out tax cuts or credits to everyone, though millions pay no income taxes. Plenty of voters still aren’t convinced they received a cut even if they did, thanks to a mediocre sales effort from the GOP and a press corps hoping Republicans fail. But consider the 2019 options: The GOP wants to make the cuts permanent; Democrats want to repeal most of the reform to finance more spending.

    Deregulation. Congress through the Congressional Review Act scuttled 16 rules that the Obama Administration tried to impose in its final days. That included everything from regulations about online privacy that somehow didn’t apply to Facebook or Google to environmental overreaches like the stream protection rule. Before 2017 Congress had invoked the CRA only once—for a Clinton ergonomics rule.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling also succeeded in reforming the 2010 Dodd-Frank law’s assault on community banks. The Senate filibuster prevented him from doing more, but the lame duck session could push through other useful reforms, including work requirements in the farm bill. The free-market Mr. Hensarling is retiring and his successor in a Democratic House would be Rep. Maxine Waters. That is the election policy stakes in profile.

    The GOP has established itself as the only party that reduces burdens on businesses so they can focus on innovation and sales. This is a welcome departure from a Republican Party that for too long abided more regulations, if at a slower pace than Democrats.

    Judiciary. The Senate has confirmed 84 judges, including 29 to the appellate courts and two Supreme Court justices. Judges can sit for decades and shape the next generation of legal minds in clerkships. Much of the credit goes to Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who didn’t hesitate to finish what Harry Reid started and bust the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees. Here the Senate stakes come into sharp relief, as Democrats would refuse to confirm any Federalist Society nominee.

    Health care. The biggest disappointment is the failure to replace ObamaCare after campaigning on the issue for eight years. The GOP is now getting blamed for the dysfunction in health-care markets though not one Republican voted for ObamaCare. Lost too was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to impose fiscal discipline on Medicaid, which is on an unsustainable path.

    The GOP did at least eliminate the financial penalty for declining to buy insurance as part of tax reform. That offered some immediate relief to middle-class voters who don’t receive subsidies for buying an expensive product they may or may not want.

    The prevailing attitude among Republicans now is that they should forget about health care. The risk is that a Democratic Congress would work with President Trump to impose price controls on prescription drugs, which is pavement on the road to single payer.

    Defense. Congress ended years of sequestration cuts that had damaged the military more than any enemy in the field, as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has put it. The Navy testified last year that it had 41 fewer ships and 90,000 fewer sailors than it did on 9/11. More defense rehabilitation is needed, but a Democratic House will try to block it.

    Spending & entitlements. The Senate Democratic price for even a modest two-year defense increase was increases on domestic accounts, and the GOP has a less than illustrious record on spending, especially the two-thirds of the federal budget that runs on autopilot (entitlements). The Senate returned to its regular process of passing appropriations bills, and the budget process featured less drama than in years past. But the outcome—more spending—was unchanged.

    The President has no appetite for addressing the insolvency of Social Security and Medicare, and this lets Congress off the hook. The intellectual case for Medicare premium-support or other reforms will take a hit with the retirement of Speaker Paul Ryan, but perhaps some of his younger colleagues will take up the cause.

    Immigration. After health care, the biggest missed opportunity was a deal trading legal status for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children (Dreamers) for money for border security (“the wall”). This was a failure of the hard left and right, but the failure hurts Republicans more as the party in power. They lost a chance to say they solved an immigration problem that the Obama Democrats wouldn’t.
    ***

    Not everyone in the GOP seems to appreciate that even if Republicans hold the Senate, the window for conservative reform will close if Democrats win the House. As of a count on Sept. 28, some 734 bills have passed the House and are awaiting action in the Senate.

    Democrats want voters to believe that Donald Trump is the main election issue, and Mr. Trump agrees. But the real stakes are whether the next House majority will pull Mr. Trump to the GOP right on policy, or to the Nancy Pelosi left. Mr. Trump can go either way without intellectual or political confliction.

    Yet Speaker Ryan will leave Congress having accomplished much of his 2016 “Better Way” agenda that so many on the left and right mocked as outmoded or impossible to pass. This record of accomplishment, and the reality that the economy is working for more Americans, is what may tempt voters to give the GOP another chance.

    Appeared in the November 2, 2018, print edition.

  163. OldOzzie

    A Consequential Congress – WSJ Editotial

    The 115th has the best record of center-right reform since 1994-1996.

    By The Editorial Board
    Nov. 1, 2018 7:14 p.m. ET


    Americans love to hate Congress, and no wonder given the careerists and poseurs in both parties. But some Congresses matter more than others, and the 115th has accomplished more useful conservative reform than any since the first Newt Gingrich years of 1995-1996.

    Democrats won’t admit it for partisan reasons, and neither will some of the perpetually angry on the right. But the GOP’s narrow Senate majority of 52 seats and then 51 has turned out to be more consequential and conservative than the 55-seat GOP majority of 2005-2006, the last time Republicans controlled both Houses and the Presidency.

    The looming election is a useful moment to review the tape on the successes and disappointments, and consider the stakes of a Democratic House, Senate or both.

    Tax Reform. Republicans broke the economic logjam of the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and the new 21% rate with 100% business expensing has helped to lift the U.S. economy to a higher growth plane and again made it the most competitive.

    The individual reforms were more about passing out tax cuts or credits to everyone, though millions pay no income taxes. Plenty of voters still aren’t convinced they received a cut even if they did, thanks to a mediocre sales effort from the GOP and a press corps hoping Republicans fail. But consider the 2019 options: The GOP wants to make the cuts permanent; Democrats want to repeal most of the reform to finance more spending.

    Deregulation. Congress through the Congressional Review Act scuttled 16 rules that the Obama Administration tried to impose in its final days. That included everything from regulations about online privacy that somehow didn’t apply to Facebook or Google to environmental overreaches like the stream protection rule. Before 2017 Congress had invoked the CRA only once—for a Clinton ergonomics rule.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling also succeeded in reforming the 2010 Dodd-Frank law’s assault on community banks. The Senate filibuster prevented him from doing more, but the lame duck session could push through other useful reforms, including work requirements in the farm bill. The free-market Mr. Hensarling is retiring and his successor in a Democratic House would be Rep. Maxine Waters. That is the election policy stakes in profile.

    The GOP has established itself as the only party that reduces burdens on businesses so they can focus on innovation and sales. This is a welcome departure from a Republican Party that for too long abided more regulations, if at a slower pace than Democrats.

    Judiciary. The Senate has confirmed 84 judges, including 29 to the appellate courts and two Supreme Court justices. Judges can sit for decades and shape the next generation of legal minds in clerkships. Much of the credit goes to Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who didn’t hesitate to finish what Harry Reid started and bust the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees. Here the Senate stakes come into sharp relief, as Democrats would refuse to confirm any Federalist Society nominee.

    Health care. The biggest disappointment is the failure to replace ObamaCare after campaigning on the issue for eight years. The GOP is now getting blamed for the dysfunction in health-care markets though not one Republican voted for ObamaCare. Lost too was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to impose fiscal discipline on Medicaid, which is on an unsustainable path.

    The GOP did at least eliminate the financial penalty for declining to buy insurance as part of tax reform. That offered some immediate relief to middle-class voters who don’t receive subsidies for buying an expensive product they may or may not want.

    The prevailing attitude among Republicans now is that they should forget about health care. The risk is that a Democratic Congress would work with President Trump to impose price controls on prescription drugs, which is pavement on the road to single payer.

    Defense. Congress ended years of sequestration cuts that had damaged the military more than any enemy in the field, as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has put it. The Navy testified last year that it had 41 fewer ships and 90,000 fewer sailors than it did on 9/11. More defense rehabilitation is needed, but a Democratic House will try to block it.

    Spending & entitlements. The Senate Democratic price for even a modest two-year defense increase was increases on domestic accounts, and the GOP has a less than illustrious record on spending, especially the two-thirds of the federal budget that runs on autopilot (entitlements). The Senate returned to its regular process of passing appropriations bills, and the budget process featured less drama than in years past. But the outcome—more spending—was unchanged.

    The President has no appetite for addressing the insolvency of Social Security and Medicare, and this lets Congress off the hook. The intellectual case for Medicare premium-support or other reforms will take a hit with the retirement of Speaker Paul Ryan, but perhaps some of his younger colleagues will take up the cause.

    Immigration. After health care, the biggest missed opportunity was a deal trading legal status for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children (Dreamers) for money for border security (“the wall”). This was a failure of the hard left and right, but the failure hurts Republicans more as the party in power. They lost a chance to say they solved an immigration problem that the Obama Democrats wouldn’t.

    Not everyone in the GOP seems to appreciate that even if Republicans hold the Senate, the window for conservative reform will close if Democrats win the House. As of a count on Sept. 28, some 734 bills have passed the House and are awaiting action in the Senate.

    Democrats want voters to believe that Donald Trump is the main election issue, and Mr. Trump agrees. But the real stakes are whether the next House majority will pull Mr. Trump to the GOP right on policy, or to the Nancy Pelosi left. Mr. Trump can go either way without intellectual or political confliction.

    Yet Speaker Ryan will leave Congress having accomplished much of his 2016 “Better Way” agenda that so many on the left and right mocked as outmoded or impossible to pass. This record of accomplishment, and the reality that the economy is working for more Americans, is what may tempt voters to give the GOP another chance.

    Appeared in the November 2, 2018, print edition.

  164. Nick

    We should have a competition here at the Cat to write the media’s post mid term election, headlines,

  165. Nick

    We should have a competition here at the Cat to write the media’s post mid term election, headlines,

  166. OldOzzie

    A Consequential Congress – WSJ Editotial

    The 115th has the best record of center-right reform since 1994-1996.

    By The Editorial Board
    Nov. 1, 2018 7:14 p.m. ET


    Americans love to hate Congress, and no wonder given the careerists and poseurs in both parties. But some Congresses matter more than others, and the 115th has accomplished more useful conservative reform than any since the first Newt Gingrich years of 1995-1996.

    Democrats won’t admit it for partisan reasons, and neither will some of the perpetually angry on the right. But the GOP’s narrow Senate majority of 52 seats and then 51 has turned out to be more consequential and conservative than the 55-seat GOP majority of 2005-2006, the last time Republicans controlled both Houses and the Presidency.

    The looming election is a useful moment to review the tape on the successes and disappointments, and consider the stakes of a Democratic House, Senate or both.

    Tax Reform. Republicans broke the economic logjam of the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and the new 21% rate with 100% business expensing has helped to lift the U.S. economy to a higher growth plane and again made it the most competitive.

    The individual reforms were more about passing out tax cuts or credits to everyone, though millions pay no income taxes. Plenty of voters still aren’t convinced they received a cut even if they did, thanks to a mediocre sales effort from the GOP and a press corps hoping Republicans fail. But consider the 2019 options: The GOP wants to make the cuts permanent; Democrats want to repeal most of the reform to finance more spending.

    Deregulation. Congress through the Congressional Review Act scuttled 16 rules that the Obama Administration tried to impose in its final days. That included everything from regulations about online privacy that somehow didn’t apply to Facebook or Google to environmental overreaches like the stream protection rule. Before 2017 Congress had invoked the CRA only once—for a Clinton ergonomics rule.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling also succeeded in reforming the 2010 Dodd-Frank law’s assault on community banks. The Senate filibuster prevented him from doing more, but the lame duck session could push through other useful reforms, including work requirements in the farm bill. The free-market Mr. Hensarling is retiring and his successor in a Democratic House would be Rep. Maxine Waters. That is the election policy stakes in profile.

    The GOP has established itself as the only party that reduces burdens on businesses so they can focus on innovation and sales. This is a welcome departure from a Republican Party that for too long abided more regulations, if at a slower pace than Democrats.

    Judiciary. The Senate has confirmed 84 judges, including 29 to the appellate courts and two Supreme Court justices. Judges can sit for decades and shape the next generation of legal minds in clerkships. Much of the credit goes to Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who didn’t hesitate to finish what Harry Reid started and bust the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees. Here the Senate stakes come into sharp relief, as Democrats would refuse to confirm any Federalist Society nominee.

    Health care. The biggest disappointment is the failure to replace ObamaCare after campaigning on the issue for eight years. The GOP is now getting blamed for the dysfunction in health-care markets though not one Republican voted for ObamaCare. Lost too was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to impose fiscal discipline on Medicaid, which is on an unsustainable path.

    The GOP did at least eliminate the financial penalty for declining to buy insurance as part of tax reform. That offered some immediate relief to middle-class voters who don’t receive subsidies for buying an expensive product they may or may not want.

    The prevailing attitude among Republicans now is that they should forget about health care. The risk is that a Democratic Congress would work with President Trump to impose price controls on prescription drugs, which is pavement on the road to single payer.

    Defense. Congress ended years of sequestration cuts that had damaged the military more than any enemy in the field, as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has put it. The Navy testified last year that it had 41 fewer ships and 90,000 fewer sailors than it did on 9/11. More defense rehabilitation is needed, but a Democratic House will try to block it.

    Spending & entitlements. The Senate Democratic price for even a modest two-year defense increase was increases on domestic accounts, and the GOP has a less than illustrious record on spending, especially the two-thirds of the federal budget that runs on autopilot (entitlements). The Senate returned to its regular process of passing appropriations bills, and the budget process featured less drama than in years past. But the outcome—more spending—was unchanged.

    The President has no appetite for addressing the insolvency of Social Security and Medicare, and this lets Congress off the hook. The intellectual case for Medicare premium-support or other reforms will take a hit with the retirement of Speaker Paul Ryan, but perhaps some of his younger colleagues will take up the cause.

    Immigration. After health care, the biggest missed opportunity was a deal trading legal status for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children (Dreamers) for money for border security (“the wall”). This was a failure of the hard left and right, but the failure hurts Republicans more as the party in power. They lost a chance to say they solved an immigration problem that the Obama Democrats wouldn’t.

    Not everyone in the GOP seems to appreciate that even if Republicans hold the Senate, the window for conservative reform will close if Democrats win the House. As of a count on Sept. 28, some 734 bills have passed the House and are awaiting action in the Senate.

    Democrats want voters to believe that Donald Trump is the main election issue, and Mr. Trump agrees. But the real stakes are whether the next House majority will pull Mr. Trump to the GOP right on policy, or to the Nancy Pelosi left. Mr. Trump can go either way without intellectual or political confliction.

    Yet Speaker Ryan will leave Congress having accomplished much of his 2016 “Better Way” agenda that so many on the left and right mocked as outmoded or impossible to pass. This record of accomplishment, and the reality that the economy is working for more Americans, is what may tempt voters to give the GOP another chance.

    Appeared in the November 2, 2018, print edition.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Small ship must not cross in front of the aircraft carrier!

    HMAS Voyager?

  168. OldOzzie

    A Consequential Congress – WSJ Editotial

    The 115th has the best record of center-right reform since 1994-1996.

    By The Editorial Board
    Nov. 1, 2018 7:14 p.m. ET


    Americans love to hate Congress, and no wonder given the careerists and poseurs in both parties. But some Congresses matter more than others, and the 115th has accomplished more useful conservative reform than any since the first Newt Gingrich years of 1995-1996.

    Democrats won’t admit it for partisan reasons, and neither will some of the perpetually angry on the right. But the GOP’s narrow Senate majority of 52 seats and then 51 has turned out to be more consequential and conservative than the 55-seat GOP majority of 2005-2006, the last time Republicans controlled both Houses and the Presidency.

    The looming election is a useful moment to review the tape on the successes and disappointments, and consider the stakes of a Democratic House, Senate or both.

    Tax Reform. Republicans broke the economic logjam of the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and the new 21% rate with 100% business expensing has helped to lift the U.S. economy to a higher growth plane and again made it the most competitive.

    The individual reforms were more about passing out tax cuts or credits to everyone, though millions pay no income taxes. Plenty of voters still aren’t convinced they received a cut even if they did, thanks to a mediocre sales effort from the GOP and a press corps hoping Republicans fail. But consider the 2019 options: The GOP wants to make the cuts permanent; Democrats want to repeal most of the reform to finance more spending.

    Deregulation. Congress through the Congressional Review Act scuttled 16 rules that the Obama Administration tried to impose in its final days. That included everything from regulations about online privacy that somehow didn’t apply to Facebook or Google to environmental overreaches like the stream protection rule. Before 2017 Congress had invoked the CRA only once—for a Clinton ergonomics rule.

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling also succeeded in reforming the 2010 Dodd-Frank law’s assault on community banks. The Senate filibuster prevented him from doing more, but the lame duck session could push through other useful reforms, including work requirements in the farm bill. The free-market Mr. Hensarling is retiring and his successor in a Democratic House would be Rep. Maxine Waters. That is the election policy stakes in profile.

    The GOP has established itself as the only party that reduces burdens on businesses so they can focus on innovation and sales. This is a welcome departure from a Republican Party that for too long abided more regulations, if at a slower pace than Democrats.

    Judiciary. The Senate has confirmed 84 judges, including 29 to the appellate courts and two Supreme Court justices. Judges can sit for decades and shape the next generation of legal minds in clerkships. Much of the credit goes to Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who didn’t hesitate to finish what Harry Reid started and bust the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees. Here the Senate stakes come into sharp relief, as Democrats would refuse to confirm any Federalist Society nominee.

    Health care. The biggest disappointment is the failure to replace ObamaCare after campaigning on the issue for eight years. The GOP is now getting blamed for the dysfunction in health-care markets though not one Republican voted for ObamaCare. Lost too was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to impose fiscal discipline on Medicaid, which is on an unsustainable path.

    The GOP did at least eliminate the financial penalty for declining to buy insurance as part of tax reform. That offered some immediate relief to middle-class voters who don’t receive subsidies for buying an expensive product they may or may not want.

    The prevailing attitude among Republicans now is that they should forget about health care. The risk is that a Democratic Congress would work with President Trump to impose price controls on prescription drugs, which is pavement on the road to single payer.

    Defense. Congress ended years of sequestration cuts that had damaged the military more than any enemy in the field, as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has put it. The Navy testified last year that it had 41 fewer ships and 90,000 fewer sailors than it did on 9/11. More defense rehabilitation is needed, but a Democratic House will try to block it.

    Spending & entitlements. The Senate Democratic price for even a modest two-year defense increase was increases on domestic accounts, and the GOP has a less than illustrious record on spending, especially the two-thirds of the federal budget that runs on autopilot (entitlements). The Senate returned to its regular process of passing appropriations bills, and the budget process featured less drama than in years past. But the outcome—more spending—was unchanged.

    The President has no appetite for addressing the insolvency of Social Security and Medicare, and this lets Congress off the hook. The intellectual case for Medicare premium-support or other reforms will take a hit with the retirement of Speaker Paul Ryan, but perhaps some of his younger colleagues will take up the cause.

    Immigration. After health care, the biggest missed opportunity was a deal trading legal status for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children (Dreamers) for money for border security (“the wall”). This was a failure of the hard left and right, but the failure hurts Republicans more as the party in power. They lost a chance to say they solved an immigration problem that the Obama Democrats wouldn’t.

    Not everyone in the GOP seems to appreciate that even if Republicans hold the Senate, the window for conservative reform will close if Democrats win the House. As of a count on Sept. 28, some 734 bills have passed the House and are awaiting action in the Senate.

    Democrats want voters to believe that Donald Trump is the main election issue, and Mr. Trump agrees. But the real stakes are whether the next House majority will pull Mr. Trump to the GOP right on policy, or to the Nancy Pelosi left. Mr. Trump can go either way without intellectual or political confliction.

    Yet Speaker Ryan will leave Congress having accomplished much of his 2016 “Better Way” agenda that so many on the left and right mocked as outmoded or impossible to pass. This record of accomplishment, and the reality that the economy is working for more Americans, is what may tempt voters to give the GOP another chance.

    Appeared in the November 2, 2018, print edition.

  169. Boambee John

    Zatara

    Not keeping score, I just happen to be familiar with those two cases.

    I don’t blame the USN, the ships were unmarked, and thus fair game. The US submarine war was quite ruthless. Look up LCDR “Mush” Morton as one example. Another incident was caused by sending an important message unclassified, which was overlooked because there was so much classified traffic. Look up “Let pass the Awa Maru” in 1945.

  170. Boambee John

    Zulu

    Similar circumstances just over five years later.

  171. Tel

    Police investigate gang muggings, assaults in Melbourne

    First time for everything.

  172. Mitch M.

    High Functioning After Depression

    I’ve never heard of this but apparently it is very common and makes me wonder about “maintenance therapy”.

  173. slackster

    I leave this in memory of better days

  174. Zatara

    Look up LCDR “Mush” Morton as one example.

    My favorite Mush story was him taking a successful ‘down the throat’ shot at a charging Japanese destroyer in Wewak Harbor and living to tell the tale.

    Unfortunately he didn’t survive the war. I read somewhere that divers had found the wreck of his boat the USS Wahoo in La Perouse Strait off Hokkaido a few years back.

  175. Marcus

    Peter
    #2855350, posted on November 2, 2018 at 8:35 pm
    No Media Watchdog from Gerard yet. Is he OK?

    Here you go:

    http://thesydneyinstitute.com.au/blog/issue-430/

  176. candy

    I’ve never heard of this but apparently it is very common and makes me wonder about “maintenance therapy”.

    I wonder if some people bounce back more readily due to more mundane factors, like exercising, eating healthy, no substance use, meditation, sleeping enough. Actually doing the things therapists advise?

  177. .

    What does Michael Smith expect will happen with this filing of court documents?

    I want someone to explain to me how a private citizen in NSW can file what amounts to an ex officio indictment, which “does not formally charge” the accused.

  178. candy

    I’ve never heard of this but apparently it is very common and makes me wonder about “maintenance therapy”.

    I wonder Mitch M. if some people bounce back more readily due to more mundane factors – eating healthy, exercising, sleeping enough, meditation, no substance use – all the things therapists advise? actually doing those things.

  179. classical_hero

    JC trolled Clementine Ford. So many NPC’S defending her.

  180. candy

    Saying “slanty eyed” in these day and times is really puzzling. Why would Ross Cameron do that ?

  181. .

    .
    #2855375, posted on November 2, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    What does Michael Smith expect will happen with this filing of court documents?

    I want someone to explain to me how a private citizen in NSW can file what amounts to an ex officio indictment, which “does not formally charge” the accused.

    More so, how can a private citizen compel you to turn up if no charges have been laid and no indictment has been made?

  182. OldOzzie

    Aviation and Oral Traditions

    Posted on November 1, 2018 by TXRed


    Most people don’t associate aviation and oral traditions. After all, aviation is very much about technology and machinery, especially once you start flying airliners and other jets or “just” multi-engine aircraft. And since powered, controlled flight began in 1903, that’s well after oral-traditions and oral history were important.

    Most people would be in for a bit of a surprise.

    You learn what the FAA and laws of physics require in order to safely operate an aircraft. And then you absorb, if you are fortunate, the tips, subtleties, tricks, and horrible warnings from other pilots. Some are told as stories, some arrive while watching someone else, or looking at aircraft on the ramp, but all are transmitted from pilot to pilot through speech, not printed text.

    How do you land a twin-engine plane in a screaming cross wind, especially one with relatively low-mounted wings? For pistons and some turbo-props, you can use differential power, tapping the “pull power” of one engine to help hold the plane straight so you don’t have to lower the up-wind wing so much. I learned this from men who had flown DC-3s, Beech 18s, and other tail-wheel twins. It also works for nose-wheel planes. I have never seen it mentioned in books or magazine articles, and when I quiz younger pilots, they’ve not heard of the skill. Purely oral-tradition today.

    Other information is explained in order to keep the new pilot from learning something the hard way. There are certain high-performance planes that are less tolerant in “slow flight” than are others. My commercial instructor walked me around one or two that were visiting Little Muni Field and explained what the quirks were, why, and the warning signs. I’d never get a chance to try slow flight in that kind of plane at Little Muni, but I now had information that served me very well at a later point in time.

    [This was the same instructor who obtained permission for me to take a certain twin up (with said instructor) several thousand feet higher than we usually practiced and see exactly why the plane had a nasty reputation. We knew what it would do, and the plane did it. We were prepared and even so, we needed several thousand feet of elevation to recover into level flight. The plane provided plenty of warning, if you paid attention.]

    There were other things, traditions, horror stories, truly useful business advice (“Always carry enough cash or in credit cards to be able to tell the boss to go to H-ll and still get home”), information about airports that was not found in the official airport guide (“When the wind is out of the west, there’s a lot of turbulence starting 500 feet down the runway,” especially when you are in small, a cloth-covered tail-wheel airplane), food warnings, (“Don’t get the pancakes. Burgers are great, pork-chops to die for, but the cook just cannot make a fluffy pancake to save her life”), social info (“They charge for coffee, the bastages”) and other important things.

    Something I’ve wondered about is how much longer this will continue. As more and more pilots come from dedicated aviation schools and programs like University of North Dakota or American Flyers, and younger instructors who have never known CFIs who are not “school” CFIs, will we lose some of the tricks and techniques the third and fourth generation pilots learned the hard way and passed to 6th and 7th generation flyers like me? How much of the aviation culture is disappearing as the WWII and Baby Boom pilots age out?

    *CFI stands for Certified Flight Instructor. They come in various flavors depending on how much training they had in what aircraft.

  183. slackster

    This picture from WW2 always fascinated me:

    https://imgur.com/a/0dmU0Xb

  184. Saying “slanty eyed” in these day and times is really puzzling. Why would Ross Cameron do that ?

    Because he’s racist, candy.

  185. Arky

    Nick
    #2855362, posted on November 2, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    We should have a competition here at the Cat to write the media’s post mid term election, headlines,

    ..
    Nazis Retain Reps and Senate.
    Brazilian Collusion Scandal
    Trump Eats Baby
    Mueller. Mueller. Mueller! MUELLER!

  186. Nine News Australia
    @9NewsAUS
    #BREAKING: There are multiple reports of a “loud explosion” and fire near the Saudi Arabian embassy in London. More to come. Photo credit: Trevor Moore. #9News

  187. cohenite

    Still Out of Africa but with a twist.

    We Didn’t All Evolve From One Population Of Early Humans, Bold New Research Claims

    Of course we didn’t; sociobiology establishes that; is there one functioning Islamic society; or a black one. Asking for a friend.

  188. .

    I have reviewed Clammy Forward’s ramblings and she is simply an aggressive misandrist. She just hates men.

    “Males are toxic, anger belongs to women, not men…”

    Even if you accept feminism and valid, she’s just a crank.

  189. Mitch M.

    Of course we didn’t; sociobiology establishes that; is there one functioning Islamic society; or a black one. Asking for a friend.

    You’re a braver man than me. Last time I made a related argument on an anthropology forum the response I received was something akin to “setting the boys onto him”. I don’t raise the issue cohenite because I am not fully convinced in my own mind but if I had to make a stand there would be mobs of the leftist variety preparing gallows outside my house.

  190. Arky

    She just hates men.

    ..
    She should be allowed to.
    ..

    Saying “slanty eyed” in these day and times is really puzzling. Why would Ross Cameron do that ?

    ..
    He should be allowed to.

  191. Perfidious Albino

    +1 slackster.
    Purportedly a kamikaze attack on a British warship in the Pacific, but haven’t found any corroborating info. Amazing pic though.

  192. .

    Of course we didn’t; sociobiology establishes that; is there one functioning Islamic society; or a black one. Asking for a friend.

    I can’t see where you’re going with this cohenite.

    What the hell does religion have to do with it? It might be the worst religion in the universe but it has nothing to do with genetics.

    Darwood Hicks was just as stupid as your average Taliban.

    Cape Verde is doing fine. I’m sure you could name some if you actually got off your arse and looked for some examples. I’d actually love to check that place out.

    Other okayish majority black places:

    Bahamas
    Barbados
    Jamaica (friends have been and loved it)

    The best thing out of the genetic evidence is that we can put most of the archeology we knew up to the 1990s to one side and ignore it because human history is much older than we realise.

  193. Perfidious Albino

    Noticed a lot of ‘Victorian Socialists’ placards and posters around Melbourne at the moment in the lead up to the State election. Indicative of how brazen the left are becoming now.

  194. Arky

    Darwood Hicks was just as stupid as your average Taliban.

    ..
    Is Hicks an average Australian?

  195. .

    A 3 to 5 point difference in average IQ isn’t going to mean that you are going to fail as a society.

    Most of us use transistors and advanced computational mathematics every day and less than 1% of the population can properly describe or explain what these processes and technologies involve.

    Then there is cultural bias in IQ testing. I am not talking about “white” or “black” culture. I am talking about how our education system is set up to reward university professors – of any specialisation, regardless of the dubious value of said specialisation. A professor well versed in Prodhoun is “just as” valuable as a stats professor who can code at a developer level. Hmmm….

    Think of this economic phenomena.

    Countries have a minimum level of IQ (which requires certain generational prerequisites regarding nutrition and health) and rule of law, free markets; they grow wealthy.

    As they become wealthy, they consume more education.

    This level of education is probably too much – it does not lead to employment and anecdotally is often in dubious subject areas.

    All of this, however, leads to an “increase” in IQ of said degree holders. If there has been a decline in the West, it is because of a growing underclass, not because overeducated buffoons can’t change the tyres on their car or can’t survive in the wilderness.

    If the racial argument was valid, there’d be no Thomas Sowells or Thomas Mallets. There are cultural and epigenetic phenomena but clearly, a white kid in Maine is going to do better than a white kid in Botswana, on average.

    I’m sure too that a physics prof. will have a higher IQ than a professor of women’s studies; but both will score higher than a guy from Rwanda who makes pots and pans from scrap aluminium (pans, knives, forks…).

    I’ll gladly take a bet on who think are the two smartest in that group, and which academic would survive in private enterprise in a much poorer country.

  196. Marcus

    Because he’s racist, candy.

    I don’t think so. The irony is that he was probably the most vociferously pro-Chinese commentator in the Australian media.

    At least pro the Chinese state, but Cameron did from time to time tend to equate a people with their government.

    Still, whatever his reason I don’t think racism was it.

  197. mh

    My William Hill account has transferred to Beteasy. I was looking at the US mid term markets on Beteasy yesterday and they had GOP 2.75 to keep the house. Now that market has disappeared.

  198. Confused Old Misfit

    Lightning’s a bitch!

  199. JC

    He’s back. I’m certain Southpaw was rejected by a euro woman and has never got over it.

    Tim Soutphommasane
    ‏Verified account @timsout
    9h9 hours ago

    Tim Soutphommasane Retweeted Amy Remeikis

    I’ve said it before, but we are looking at the normalisation of racism, and the monetisation of hate by sections of the media. If we tolerate it, we will end up in a very ugly place

    He’s flipped out of the silly Cameron comments.

    Tim Soutphommasane
    ‏Verified account @timsout
    6h6 hours ago

    While on racism, let’s remember we have two hate preachers of the far-right — Gavin McInnes and Tommy Robinson — with planned tours of Australia. These agitators of racism are of dubious character and pose a danger to the community. Violent extremists should be declined visas
    87 replies 285 retweets 718 likes
    Tim Soutphommasane
    ‏Verified account @timsout
    8h8 hours ago

    Tim Soutphommasane Retweeted Bevan Shields

    Good. As Sky News scrambles to repair its sinking reputation, and prevent advertisers from pulling the plug, it can also terminate Rowan Dean. He is another one who can go back to the racist cave from whence he came

    Tim Soutphommasane added,

    He should be deported as a hater of white people.

  200. Tel

    Sounds like Problematization to me!

  201. cohenite

    Hicks was your average Taliban; a liar and a coward.

    but if I had to make a stand there would be mobs of the leftist variety preparing gallows outside my house.

    That’s alright dot is here and head prefect will be along soon, so the gallows are purely symbolic. Propensity to religion and tribalism is no distinguishing marker at all because all of the 3 classifications of humanity, European, Asian and African have manifested them. The marker which distinguishes is individual rights based capitalist democracies.

    Now excuse me I’ll get off my arse and viola there it is Jamaica has one of the highest homicide rates in the world, in 2005, the highest. Dot’s tourist friends obviously did not get off the beaten path.

  202. .

    McInnes and Dean have never said anything racist to my knowledge.

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Darwood Hicks was just as stupid as your average Taliban.

    Hicks was smart enough to escape the fate of those captured, with no entitlements to any protection of the Geneva Convention, and the Hague Convention – a firing squad.

  204. Max:

    Ryan, the thing Ross misses is Chinese desire to make up for historical humiliations. They have a big chip on their shoulder and it makes them crazy. It will only be satisfied by a war.

    There was a painting from the first meetings with Marco Polo and the Chinese people, showing the Westerner group on a vessel going up the Yangtze, with a banner over their heads written in Chinese “Ambassadors from the Barbarians.” I can’t find it these days, but the Chinese have always been an arrogant lot and quick to try to humiliate any culture not their own.
    Rat fuckers indeed.

  205. Mitch M.

    Then there is cultural bias in IQ testing. I am not talking about “white” or “black” culture. I am talking about how our education system is set up to reward university professors – of any specialisation, regardless of the dubious value of said specialisation. A professor well versed in Prodhoun is “just as” valuable as a stats professor who can code at a developer level. Hmmm….

    I’m not sure there is ALWAYS a cultural bias, some IQ tests have been specifically designed to address that.
    I do not equate academics with IQ. 🙂 The very very smart may even find academia far too stifling. There is absolutely no doubt that Ashkenazi are huge on the IQ front and that accords very well with the inordinate success in most fields of human activity; except sports which I find completely understandable.

    If the racial argument was valid, there’d be no Thomas Sowells or Thomas Mallets.

    It is a distribution so any population can produce brilliant people, some populations won’t produce as many as others.

    BTW I don’t a damn about peoples’ intelligence as a measure of their worth. I think that is a mistaken understanding of being human. If I have to choose between a brilliant asshole and an less than average pleasant person the former can go to hell.

  206. Nick

    Asians who abhor racism. I’m still rolling around laughing.

  207. JC

    Cronkite, for someone peddling Pauline Hanson and Katter as seriously good politicians, you have a nerve to be even here, let alone attempting to start a stoush.

    Aren’t you embarrassed?

  208. JC

    If I have to choose between a brilliant asshole and an less than average pleasant person the former can go to hell.

    Really? Try that experiment when you get on a plane or about to have surgery.

  209. Tel

    I don’t raise the issue cohenite because I am not fully convinced in my own mind but if I had to make a stand there would be mobs of the leftist variety preparing gallows outside my house.

    Gosh! Not even an attempt to refute with rational argument?!?

    What could this mean?

  210. cohenite

    Aren’t you embarrassed?

    Yes, yes I am head prefect.

  211. .

    Now excuse me I’ll get off my arse and viola there it is Jamaica has one of the highest homicide rates in the world, in 2005, the highest.

    But you said “functioning society”, as were the various Italian city-states back in the 1400s, not “a nice place with a low murder rate”.

  212. cohenite

    But you said “functioning society”, as were the various Italian city-states back in the 1400s, not “a nice place with a low murder rate”.

    Stop acting like a bloody lawyer.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Any chance of Sky letting a non lunatic conservative on their nightly shows?

    It’s almost as if the whole thing is a front to discredit conservatism.

  214. JC

    But you said “functioning society”, as were the various Italian city-states back in the 1400s, not “a nice place with a low murder rate”.

    I can’t recall the piece as I’d link to it. There were over 900 police kills of supposed criminals in Rio in the first ~4 months of this year. FMD.

  215. .

    Well cohenite tell us the murder rates of the other place I nominated and tell us if any 1st or 2nd world nations are worse if you add in reporting integrity and the risk of your own government making you “disappear”, let alone any executions for victimless crimes.

    As the murder rate in Jamaica is largely linked to the drug trade, the solution is to end drug prohibition, not ramble on about race and IQ.

  216. Mitch M.

    Gosh! Not even an attempt to refute with rational argument?!?

    Not entirely. A leftist professor, the big shot on the forum, came to my defense and argued it is a debate worth having.

    The huge problem is that since the advent epigenetics and the repeated findings of epigenetic inheritance going down many generations(animal studies) most of the prior genetic arguments are not worth considering. By way of example just today I read a study on how exercise impacts on HDAC(another animal study) which improved Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor output and that has huge implications because if BDNF is altered in utero development it has serious implications for cerebral maturation. That is entirely plausible because I have read numerous studies(animal and human) indicating that the in utero environment can profoundly alter the neurodevelopmental trajectory.

    So I can’t be sure and I am left wandering around in the wilderness looking for a guiding star.

  217. .

    There were over 900 police kills of supposed criminals in Rio in the first ~4 months of this year. FMD.

    This is the kind of shit that doesn’t make it onto the books (in most cases).

  218. Tel

    It is a distribution so any population can produce brilliant people, some populations won’t produce as many as others.

    I agree but the correlation between getting high scores in IQ tests and being successful in life is pretty weak, by most estimates around 20% or at most 30%. As I’m sure I have pointed out before, John D. Rockefeller had only a high school education and the “standard oil” that he produced was simply kerosene. The only amazing thing he did was produce a consistent product that people found useful, and run a successful business. Oh yeah, and he also ended up the wealthiest person in US history (maybe the history of the world, but we can argue that). Bill Gates dropped out of tertiary education and decided he would do his own thing. He wasn’t even a great programmer but he did manage to do well in business. Steve Jobs was another dropout who went on to be successful.

    Thomas Sowell is smart, but his particular talent is being good at explaining what is already known in a way that regular people can understand. Is that high IQ? Who cares? It’s useful.

  219. .

    It’s almost as if the whole thing is a front to discredit conservatism.

    Just like The Australian.

  220. Tel

    Any chance of Sky letting a non lunatic conservative on their nightly shows?

    No offense intended … but maybe you aren’t the ideal guy to be asking that question.

  221. None

    I hope Rowan sues the fat Soupy for defamation. Why oh why can’t we just cancel the fat f*** race mongering Soupy’s residence and Citizenship and turf him out of the country.

  222. .

    Can someone explain what this is about?

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/no-intention-of-deporting-them-nancy-bird-walton-s-niece-still-in-hiding-despite-mp-s-reassurance-20181102-p50dmp.html

    So the Dept. of Home Affairs can retroactively revoke your citizenship just because…like “Computer Says No!”?

    Morrison and Dutton got a sterling conservative reputation off Tony Abbott’s policies and now are going to let in asylum seekers on Nauru and the dept. spends its time harassing Australians it has declared are persona non grata.

    What a horrible botch.

  223. None

    There is a bit of irony in Sky News sacking its most pro-China commentator ostensibly because he offended Chinese although I will put money on no Chinese person complained. Sky News is definitely run by arse clowns.

  224. Mitch M.

    I agree but the correlation between getting high scores in IQ tests and being successful in life is pretty weak, by most estimates around 20% or at most 30%.

    No it isn’t and if you add conscientiousness to the mix the rate goes through the roof. “Being successful in life” is not the mark of intelligence it is the mark of adaptation. Equating success in business with IQ is not even wrong.

    Bill Gates dropped out of tertiary education and decided he would do his own thing.

    Bill Gates IQ is through the roof. Same with Paul Allen. Kicking over 150.

    Steve Jobs invented nothing. He was a marketing genius who was good at claiming credit for other peoples’ inventions.

  225. JC

    Tel

    John D was pretty freaking smart. Oil aside, I worked with a dude whose great grandpa or grandpa used to play poker with John D one night most weeks. John D was always up by the end of each year. 🙂

  226. sdfc

    There is a bit of irony in Sky News sacking its most pro-China commentator ostensibly because he offended Chinese

    Cameron’s ego got the better of him. See ya later dipshit.

  227. JC

    But SDFC, what’s the big freaking deal? He something which was generally accurate, but inelegant.

    The fact of the matter is that there is smaller variation is Chinese people than there exists with say Europeans or even Africans for that matter.

  228. Ryan

    Never mind no Chinese people complaining, I doubt any Chinese people have even been offended by Ross’s comments even after they’ve caught fire on social media. That’s because they use the same sorts of terms to describe westerners.

  229. Oh come on

    If you go to the Disneyland in Shanghai on any typical morning of the week you’ll see twenty thousand black-haired, slanty-eyed, yellow-skinned Chinese

    Yep that’s a justified fire.

    On another unrelated matter – Sarah Jeong, the anti-white racist member of the NYT editorial board, described herself as a “woman of colour”. I wonder what colour she considers herself to be?

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t have a reference, but commercial television in Perth is running the story about some arseclowns who made a hiphop tape, on the big war memorial in Kings Park….

  231. Oh come on

    It is kind of funny when east Asians describe themselves in English as yellow.

  232. sdfc

    the fact of the matter is that there is smaller variation is Chinese people than there exists with say Europeans or even Africans for that matter.

    i doubt that JC, The Han are only one Chinese ethnic group.

    Cameron should have been aware how touchy modern society is.

  233. Mitch M.

    The Chinese have long memories all the way back to the 19th century. Be afraid. 🙂

  234. Confused Old Misfit

    how touchy modern society is.

    Oh dear!

  235. Any chance of Sky letting a non lunatic conservative on their nightly shows?

    It’s almost as if the whole thing is a front to discredit conservatism.

    Any suggestions?

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