Open Forum: November 3, 2018

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  1. Frank

    Tel
    #2856575, posted on November 4, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    Without a strategic fuel reserve australia cannot fight and must capitulate within days of a blockade.

    Don’t be so silly.

    Our lot would capitulate long before any blockade started.

    The old “who would you rather be stuck in a foxhole with” character test. Rudd and Turnbull would have already been on the phone making a deal to sell you out to try and save their own hides, before the first deployment. The lying slapper would fuck it up a wind up throttled by piano wire, possibly by her own side. Abbott might stick around for what’s coming, he seems like a chump that way.

  2. Marked Turkish police cars belonging to an elite squad responsible for monitoring and arresting opponents of Erdogan have been seen in areas of Berlin with high Turkish populations.

    If it upsets Lefty politicians in Germany, what’s the problem?

    I’ve a feeling it upsets a lot more Germans than merely lefty politicians.

    They’re not the only ones with such problems.
    On a slightly different angle, South Africa now has Fourteen Chinese Police Stations in the country.
    “Chinese-South African Police Friendship Centres” I think they’re called, in the English translation of the name, which is written below the Mandarin.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    A strategic blunder by the DNC to dispatch Obama to the hustings.

    Bad internal poll numbers re African-Americans?

    I can’t think that African-Americans would be impressed with the wussification of the Democrat Party – #metoo, criminalisation of nudges and mildly interested looks at wymminses and bringing in hordes of illegals from Central America.

    On the other hand they’d like Trump’s job market, pay rises and Kanye.

    I very much doubt there would reporting on a drift of African-Americans away from the Dems. Neither the MSM or the Dems would want to give people ideas. I wonder what the Black Panthers are doing right now?

  4. My mistake, they’re called “Chinese Police Community Co-operation Centres South Africa”
    And there’s only Thirteen of them (to date).

    Can’t find any mention in South African media, but everybody else in Africa seems to be carrying the story, plus countless tweeters.

    Call me Nostradamus if you wish, I’ve a feeling that it just got a whole bunch more risky for ANC mobs to loot & destroy shops belonging to Chinese South Africans.

  5. Makka

    I very much doubt there would reporting on a drift of African-Americans away from the Dems.

    Ditto for wymmens and latinos.

  6. If only Australia could set up an “Australian Police Co-operation Centre” in suburbs where Sudanese live.
    And have Australian Police staffing those stations.

    Police who’re empowered to “solve” crime.

  7. Dr Faustus

    Obama: ‘Out of this political darkness, I see a great awakening’

    The former US president Barack Obama, speaking in Florida ahead of Tuesday’s midterm elections, says he hopes change will come from the country’s current political turmoil.

    He also stressed that when people lie with abandon, democracy will fail.

    Meanwhile, truthiness and Hope n’ Change are in full swing in Washington:

    Brett Kavanaugh to be denied inaugural walk down supreme court steps

    ‘Security concerns’ prompt abandonment of traditional appearance on courthouse steps after swearing-in ceremony

    No obvious political awakening there…

  8. Rae

    Besides Jupes, did anyone follow Zippy’s betting tip yesterday?

  9. Knuckle Dragger

    Hooray! First Saffie wicket down!

    For 94. We only need another nine wickets with 59 whole runs to play with.

    Victory beckons!

  10. Tintarella di Luna

    I’ve just read Emeritus Professor John Carroll’s response to the ‘woke’ nonentities on last Monday’s Q&A Panel on lambasting Shakespeare – sorry it’s a bit long – this sentence beautifully summed up the panel :

    • By JOHN CARROLL
    • 12:00AM NOVEMBER 3, 2018
    What has Western high culture come to? The latest example of mind-dazing folly was the ABC’s Q&A this week, set in the Pop-up Globe theatre in Sydney and devoted to drama and to Shakespeare in particular.
    The question chosen by the producers to open proceedings and set the tone for the night’s discussion probed what kind of influence might a “450-year-old dead white guy” exert on the Australian cultural landscape, without “whitesplaining” things.
    It seems that even Shakespeare can’t be viewed today except through the politically tinted glasses of the moment. The truth is that it doesn’t matter much who Shakespeare the person was and, in any case, we know very little about him. What stands is the body of work, arguably the most broadly ranging reflection on the human condition produced anywhere, ever, and assuming the form of romance, comedy, epic, political drama and tragedy.

    It takes a peculiar cast of pygmy obtuseness and blind self-importance to stand before this awesome creation and think the most important question to ask is whether the author was biased.

    There is a serious case to be put that Shakespeare, the master humanist, created our modern concept of identity and self. We would not know who we were without him and his myriad lines of influence. He did this through unmatched explorations of char¬acter and motive, of virtue and vice, of strength and weakness, in dozens of complex portraits of humans in love and friendship, at war, subject to tragedy, suffering betrayal, the madness of jealousy, the extremes of ambition, the joys of buffoonery and the everyday struggles to survive and make sense of what life is about.

    The opening gambit of Q&A is possible only because of what has happened in the universities, and from there spread through the cultural elites. Let me elaborate. Politics does not belong in the classroom or the lecture hall. Yet today there is determined agitation to ban teaching of the Western canon — the generative fundament of all our education.

    By implication, Homer, Plato, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, Moz¬art and Jane Austen have been cast as agents of the devil, responsible for the rise of a civilisation that has polluted the entire world. This is being argued by numerous University of Sydney academics.

    A small but extremely noisy and influential minority crusades today for the moral high ground, and for the moment it is winning. Yet its cadres are but grasshoppers, the “loud and troublesome insects of the hour” described by Edmund Burke in reference to their forerunners, the French revolutionaries.

    By contrast, it is worth remembering more than 90 per cent of Australians identify with their country, according to a Scanlon Institute survey last year, and report being happy with it as it is.

    George Orwell, while calling himself a socialist, lamented towards the end of World War II that the left intelligentsia in Britain had been secretly pleased whenever the Germans won a battle. When else in human history have people been so lunatic as to wish their own side to lose a war — and to Hitler?

    The morning after the 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, DC, and the killing of 3000 innocent people, students gathered in public at Monash University in Melbourne to celebrate.

    One might add this week in Australia: when else have people sought to belittle such a peerless guardian of their own self-understanding as Shakespeare?

    Cultural masochism is bewildering when viewed from the outside. Let me hazard my own interpretation. The argument runs in stages. To begin, congenital unhappiness tends to find expression in depressive insecurity and self-pity, when it is turned inward; or in rancour and complaint, when projected outwards — complaint against others, against society and against the world. Suffering is blind and turns back against the self, or it hits out.

    Stage two of the argument narrows down to the cultural elites. Unhappiness is not, of course, restricted to those who are better off. But, with them, it can find more powerful expression than in the silent majority. Privileged social position often carries with it feelings of pride and self-importance. Acting in parallel, the intelligentsia has been provided with a weapon for articulating rancour: superior education.

    The vanity of the former, combined with the vociferousness of the latter, has produced sustained self-righteous indignation. What starts as a small voice turns into a roar by means of its megaphone dominance of educational institutions, the media, and the arts.

    Stage three concerns faith or belief. In earlier times, when Christianity prevailed, the churches provided relief from unhap-piness, in priestly compassion, communal support and a theology of salvation after death to compensate for suffering in this life. The death of God precipitated a singular crisis for the intelligentsia. When its members began to lose their faith, they first turned on the gods that had failed them. Then they generated alternative systems of belief.

    The principal one was humanism, but it too lost authority. The present hostility to Western civilisation and its great artistic works is partly a rage against the humanist values that have failed to hold, that have not been inspirational or convincing enough to replace the Christian God.

    Negation followed, the dead-end of the culture in which pleasure is taken in destruction for its own senseless sake. No new order is presented to replace the old. Belief in God gave way to the belief in humanist ideals which, in turn, gave way to the belief in nothing. The character of the Joker in the Batman films brilliantly projects the psychology at work, taking ecstatic, lipsmacking relish as buildings come crashing down and innocent crowds are annihilated.

    Within radical leftist politics, a kind of apocalyptic idealism holds that once the existing order has been destroyed, new green shoots will sprout miraculously from the blackened soil of the wasteland.

    Karl Marx wrote the blueprint, with his totalitarian communist revolution giving birth, in his mind, to what was a childishly unrealistic, fantasy utopia that, when put into practice, has always turned into its nightmare opposite. Cultural masochism is fed, in part, by power envy. A self that is insecure and fears its own lack of power becomes hostile to its own society’s confidence and success.

    A linked paranoid reflex holds that if I can destroy what has power and persecutes me, then I can gain that power. Hence the radical hostility to the main power on our side, the US.
    What underpins the success of the US, and more broadly of the Anglosphere — which has not lost a major war in more than 200 years — is Western civilisation itself. Accordingly, the prime target of leftist agitation, at its radical extreme, has finally emerged, as illustrated recently in Australia: the corpus of Western self-understanding, strength and self-belief — the canon.

    Visceral hostility to this great body of narrative and reflective work, with its vast scope, is aroused precisely because of its power. The liberal progressive mind, were it being rational, should object to, say, sharia law, but it doesn’t because Islam is of minimal cultural threat to the West — its power is feeble. “Canon” puns fittingly.

    Humanism had placed its confidence in the power of the human individual, by means of the singular powers of reason and free will, to make of both self and society anything it wanted.

    Humanism celebrated great individuals, the Leonardos and Newtons, as it praised great creations — gothic cathedrals, the Sistine ceiling, Shakespeare’s plays — and as it would find later vindica¬tion in modern medicine, clean water, hygiene, codified law, town planning, the railroad and the aeroplane, and the bountiful proliferation of industrial technology. Humanism believed in knowledge.

    By the end of the World War I, humanist optimism was badly shaken, as German sociologist Max Weber reflected in a 1918 lecture titled Knowledge as a Vocation. The failure of university purpose opened the door to a new strategy: to create a politically active institution. In the ashes of self-belief grew the university as training camp for political and social reformers.

    Activism was energised by a displacement of religious zeal into politics. With the death of God, salvation came to be sought in social crusades loosely guided by Marxist ideology. One might have imagined the main historical lesson of the 20th century would provide a cautionary tale, that redemp¬tive politics — whether com-munism or the Messianic nationalism of fascism — leads not to utopia but to a human wasteland strewn with a hundred million corpses. By the way, it is a lesson fundamental to the strength of the Western tradition, deriving from Jesus’ teaching that religion and politics are quite separate domains and should remain so. The same separation holds for education and politics.

    The masterpieces of Western culture are apolitical, in the sense that they do not, collectively, point in any particular direction. Many works are not interested in politics at all — for instance, the major novels of Henry James or Patrick White. Others, such as Shakespeare’s history plays, open up discus¬sion of qualities of leadership, political virtue, and what are the best ways to organise a society, given the challenges and circum¬stances of the moment. It is a discussion in which ideology has no place.

    Within the academy, it is simply unprofessional for lecturers to intrude their own political views into the classroom. The controversy surrounding the Ramsay Centre and its ambition to bring back and teach the major texts and artistic works of the Western tradition is entirely because what should be above politics has become deeply politicised. This is a great pity.

    Unfortunately, the politicisation of the university continues unabated. For instance, until a decade or so ago, courses teaching Shakespeare and Austen remained common. Today, students study creative writing without any systematic engagement in what has come before, which requires an intense study of the Oedipuses, the Don Quixotes, the Great Gatsbys, and diverse other examples from the great tradition. It is cruel to encourage uneducated and naive 19-year-olds in the belief that they have it in them to write a great novel without any disciplined study of the techniques that have been used by the best who have come before. Even the young Leonardo da Vinci undertook an apprenticeship in the workshop of his master, Verrocchio.

    If Austen is to be found in any English literature department today, it will likely be because of politically loaded trivia, such as her critical picture of colonialism. And if the tarring brush of political ideology can be applied to Austen, there is no limit to what else it may blacken into insignificance. Dishwashers may be next.

    What started in the universities has percolated down through schools, and spread more and more widely through green-left political culture, if usually in more mellow tones. Generations of students in schools and universities have been subjected to Marxist ideology, taught about the West’s capitalist exploitation of other people, of its own minorities and of the disadvantaged in general.

    That the West is evil has become the default reading for much of the tertiary-educated upper middle class. Yet only a small, noisy minority is rancorous. For most, a vague reflex view of the world has come to prevail, ignorantly held, while occasionally grounded in genuine empathy for those who are less well off.

    Where to now? A university depends on collective belief in universals of goodness, beauty and truth — and that they carry with them some kind of transcendental value. Goodness, beauty and truth are the secular trinity. Experience in the past century proves that without such a belief the university becomes demoralised, and those teachers who are not completely listless in their vocations tend to become negational, teaching against the authorities and truths of the inherited culture.

    All that remains is to tear down and to shock.

    The high priest of modernism, Marcel Duchamp, entered a urinal in an art exhibition in New York in 1917. His intention was to shock but also, more seriously, to challenge that there were no absolute standards left by which to say that a porcelain piece of plumbing was less beautiful, good, or true than any of the works of the old masters. Duchamp has carried the day, both in contemporary art and in university faculties. Moreover, the mainstream of Western high culture, for a century, has produced nothing but less-witty derivatives of the porcelain urinal, thereby acting as major player in the dismal story I have been telling.

    The best societies have strong cultures. Culture is rooted in myth, not knowledge. Myth in every culture is transmitted through archetypal stories, ones created in the beginning, a long time ago.
    The Western mythos was sourced in Homer, Greek tragedy and the Jesus narratives, then reinterpreted in master¬pieces such as Raphael’s Transfiguration, Bach’s masses and Tolstoy’s War and Peace. And to repeat, the mythos is apolitical.

    The narrow pursuit of knowledge is a sure sign that the sacred myths have lost authority. Knowledge has merely helped us become more comfortable. However, without belief in a higher order of some kind, human life becomes meaningless, losing purpose and direction — the condition characterised by Weber as the disenchantment of the modern world.

    Here was humanism’s critical mistake: to presume that reason and knowledge could give birth to the kind of ultimate values whose modern absence Weber lamented.

    Academic history stands as a cautionary example, always in danger of degenerating into the abstract charting of profane and boring facts — what happens to it once real ties to the past have withered, family ties, tribal ties, and communal and national ties. Our own Anzac Day makes a salutary contrast in its revitalised mythic force.

    Central to any viable idea of the university, whether Christian, humanist or other, is a retelling of the human story as a kind of epic, with gravity and dignity, following the diverse ways it plays out its fateful tragedies. This requires interpretations of the story that reveal that life is more than a string of painful and disappointing episodes, interrupted by a few passing pleasures.

    All humans seek some ultimate truth, in answer to the big questions. They want to live in hope rather than fear. They want life to be more expansive than enclosure in the microcosm of a brittle self, craving power and esteem.

    Deep engagement with the best literature, art, music, and philosophy of our own Western culture is fundamental, articulating the mythic core. Today’s students crave just this sort of education.

    Here is the mission of the custodians of the culture — their duty — as was exemplified and honoured by our remarkable ancestors, such as Shakespeare, the ones who created the canon and who began the constant, vigilant, ongoing task of interpreting and teaching it.

    John Carroll is professor emeritus of sociology at La Trobe University. This is an adapted version of a Ramsay Centre Distinguished Speakers Program lecture delivered earlier this year.

  11. Tintarella di Luna

    I meant this sentence:

    It takes a peculiar cast of pygmy obtuseness and blind self-importance to stand before this awesome creation and think the most important question to ask is whether the author was biased.

  12. rickw

    It’s a really bad look. The dude appears as if he’s seriously ill. I kid you not. He looks older than Trump.

    Being buggered by Michelle would do that to you.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Dr Faustus
    #2856713, posted on November 4, 2018 at 7:16 pm
    Obama: ‘Out of this political darkness, I see a great awakening’”

    Barack Hussein Obama was never one for self reflection as he is a self absorbed narcissist however he has finally (inadvertently) spoken the truth and made a statement that I can agree with….yes Barack Hussein Obama, liar, elitist, smug opportunist, friend of Louis Farrakhan and other assorted hate preachers and murderers, a man committed to destroying America, out of the darkness that was the eight years of your mediocre presidency, you are seeing the great awakening that is Donald Trump’s America. Amen.

  14. rickw

    Diesel is only allowed to be 5% biodiesel?

    Apparently due to concerns about bio-diesel being hygroscopic and possible atomization issues in common-rail injection systems.

    The other issue is long term storage stability, depends on whether or not it’s been hydro processed.

  15. Knuckle Dragger

    I quite like the cut of Emeritus Professor John Carroll’s jib.

    Good darts, that man.

  16. Tel

    He also stressed that when people lie with abandon, democracy will fail.

    I would guess that’s the rational response to the Kavanaugh Hearings … but will the Democrats still listen to Obama at this late stage?

  17. zyconoclast

    Those national fuel standards are bizarre. Diesel is only allowed to be 5% biodiesel?

    I’ve seen some emergency services vehicles with stickers near the fuel cap saying ‘Diesel Only NO Bio-diesel’

  18. stackja

    BO sound bite, supports the ‘refugee caravan’ . I am shocked!

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    Saffie 2/122! Collapse imminent!

    *goes back to fairyland*

  20. Steve trickler

    Epic viewing.

    Potential headline if the media find it.



  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    BO sound bite, supports the ‘refugee caravan’

    How can they be refugees when they refused asylum offered by Mexico?

  22. Dr Faustus

    It takes a peculiar cast of pygmy obtuseness and blind self-importance to stand before this awesome creation and think the most important question to ask is whether the author was biased.

    Perfectly balanced by:

    …the mainstream of Western high culture, for a century, has produced nothing but less-witty derivatives of the porcelain urinal, thereby acting as major player in the dismal story I have been telling.

    QandA: queuing up to polish DuChamp’s urinal.

  23. Snoopy

    Old mate used to run his B2500 Mazda ute on home made biodiesel. Against his wife’s advice. Things were a tad frosty when the motor blew up and had to be rebuilt. Now he runs it on Big Oil brews.

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Spaminator driving me nuts on the Solly thread. An innocuous comment, totally blocked.

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    Steve,

    I’m reporting you to Amnesty International. That was a clear crime against humanity.

    See you in The Hague.

  26. Armadillo

    Against his wife’s advice.

    His first mistake was telling her in the first place. Newly wed I presume. Very amateurish.

  27. rickw

    Those national fuel standards are bizarre. Diesel is only allowed to be 5% biodiesel?

    It doesn’t really matter about the source. If something is refined to a particular standard, it ought to be fine.

    If we really wanted to, we could derive sugar from meat. It would be pointless but pure sucrose derived in this way is the same as pure sucrose from sugar beets.

    Dot, the issue here is that most of the processing is simply distillation with cracking and reforming to optimise output to the market as well as hydroprocessing to deal with particular issues.

    The world of fuel specifications and testing is built up around taking crude oil and running it through normal refining processes. When you start adding different sources you need to proceed with extreme precaution.

    As an example, Synthetic Jet Fuel (typically FT process) may only be blended up to 50% into conventional manufactured Jet. The issue here is a lack of more volatiles in Synthetic Jet causing issues with high altitude relight if you get a flame out. The Jet Fuel Specification has no requirements on volatility because if you take crude oil and distill it, you automatically get the volatility.

    Another illustration of just how sensitive the whole fuel / engine interaction is that you can even have trouble with systems changing between sources of manufacture. There were always issues with Avgas burners that moved from east coast to west coast in OZ. The problem was the differential in aromatic content between the sources of supply. Aromatic content impacts seal swell, so Avgas burners making this move used to typically have issues with fuel system leaks after making the move.

  28. Tintarella di Luna

    I quite like the cut of Emeritus Professor John Carroll’s jib.

    Good darts, that man.

    That article is a keeper, I’ll keep it in my folder of Interesting Stuff

  29. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    articulating the mythic core

    This man speaks sense.

  30. rickw

    I’ve seen some emergency services vehicles with stickers near the fuel cap saying ‘Diesel Only NO Bio-diesel’

    That tells you everything you need to know about the potential for reliability issues. Of course government don’t give a stuff about your fuel system issues, draining, cleaning, filter changes, stuffed injector pumps etc.

  31. Armadillo

    Snoops. I sincerely hope you dumped your mate. If he’s going blabbing that stuff to his missus, he can’t be trusted.

  32. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2856734, posted on November 4, 2018 at 8:03 pm
    BO sound bite, supports the ‘refugee caravan’

    How can they be refugees when they refused asylum offered by Mexico?

    BO said it. Who would disagree? Yes. I know.

  33. .

    As an example, Synthetic Jet Fuel (typically FT process) may only be blended up to 50% into conventional manufactured Jet. The issue here is a lack of more volatiles in Synthetic Jet causing issues with high altitude relight if you get a flame out.

    Very interesting, like a reverse issue with winter fuel.

    Thanks.

    I’m a bit surprised some Big Oil firm hasn’t made synthetic avgas…with volatiles added in.

    It seems quite odd because the best oils are definitely synthetic, whereas the best fuels seem to be relatively unprocessed to get the mix of different functional groups they need to satisfy a variety of desireable physical and reaction characteristics.

  34. John Constantine

    Like the point that to the left, the anglosphere and the English language are seen as Pollutants in the world, Pollutants to be cleansed no matter how and no matter what takes their place.

    When their monty crows that the nazi ethnostates of the West will be crushed by Transnational forces, and persecuted by sanctions if any anglosphere settlement launches a last gasp final stand, that is just the talking points that are being spread and taught.

    Comrades.

  35. Snoopy

    Snoops. I sincerely hope you dumped your mate. If he’s going blabbing that stuff to his missus, he can’t be trusted.

    He was making it in the backyard shed, Arma. It wasn’t an easy secret to keep.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    Saffies 3 down!

    We can still take seven wickets for 10 to force a tie!

    *back to fairyland*

  37. Tintarella di Luna

    We have the cricket on but the sound and off and we can’t bring ourselves to watch, not even through splayed fingers.

  38. Armadillo

    Any bloke who tells a Sheliah something and not expect it be all over the neighbourhood within 30 minutes of leaving the room is an absolute moron. Especially something self incriminating.

    Wise men are aware of the “Whistle and Walk” technique. The “shoulder shrug” and look of bewilderment (once perfected) are also essentials of marriage survival 101. Every young boy with a father knows this.

  39. Death Giraffe

    In case you missed some fine hammering and gluing on the
    last page.
    For Arma.
    Just finished priming those doors. Estimate two weeks ’til able to get stuck into the engine and other actual mechanical stuff.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Saffies four down!

    Surely we can take six wickets for two runs!

    Surely……….

  41. stackja

    Where’s David Peever?

  42. Armadillo

    He was making it in the backyard shed, Arma. It wasn’t an easy secret to keep.

    He let her near his shed? Unless the clothes line is close by, he deserves a clip under the ear.

  43. Tintarella di Luna

    In case you missed some fine hammering and gluing on the
    last page.
    For Arma.
    Just finished priming those doors. Estimate two weeks ’til able to get stuck into the engine and other actual mechanical stuff.

    I love your assistant’s outfit, particularly her sweet little shoes.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, that’s that. Defeat from the jaws of victory.

    The take away point from this match was that we still achieved getting flogged like a red headed stepchild WITHOUT anyone named Marsh in the team.

  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We have the cricket on but the sound and off and we can’t bring ourselves to watch, not even through splayed fingers.

    Far off, in what was the Orange Free State, and the Transvaal, the celebrations will go on long into the night. “Our country may be a Third World sh!tehole, the symbols of the new South Africa may be a squatters shack and a toilet bucket, but we can still teach the Australians how to play cricket!”

  46. Armadillo

    That’s almost 4 minutes long, Death [Shudder]. I’m a busy man.

    On an entirely unrelated theme, do you let your missus near your shed? Bet you don’t. Not unless she’s delivering food or beer. Snoops ex mate is a total schmuck.

  47. John Constantine

    This being Australia, if you make your own biofuel and do not declare it to the tax office, the state will send their paramilitary death squads around to kick your door in, one morning before dawn.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-28/why-australia-cooking-oil-biodiesel-market-crashed/8121100

    Excise tax evasion is domestic terrorism.

    Failing to report a crime is domestic terrorism.

    Comrades.

  48. John Constantine

    Put a Lanz Bulldog conversion into the A Model.

    That way you can run it on the sump oil drained from the broken down wrecks of new cars once the petrol blockades start to bite.

  49. egg_

    This being Australia, if you make your own biofuel

    Do swampies make good biofuel?
    How many to the gallon?

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Galvanised millennials hold the key to midterm success

    By Boer Deng
    The Times
    12:00AM November 3, 2018
    6 Comments

    More young people plan to vote in the 2018 election than in any previous mid-term, according to a poll considered the definitive survey of voters aged 18 to 29.

    Forty per cent of respondents in the annual Harvard Institute of Politics youth survey said that they “definitely” planned to vote next week, the highest figure ­recorded for a mid-term since the survey began in 2000.

    If the figure holds true, it will be a record-breaking youth turnout outside a presidential election year.

    Since the US census began keeping data on youth voters in 1986, mid-term turnout among young Americans has only twice surpassed 20 per cent, in 1986 and 1994.

    A higher turnout may be a particular boon for the Democrats, who are favoured by millennials by 66 per cent in the Harvard poll, compared with 32 per cent who prefer the Republicans.

    Tuition fee relief, public healthcare and gun control are among the leading issues drawing young voters to the polls.

    A majority said that they would be more fearful for the future if the Republicans kept control of congress.

    “More than ever, young voters have shown they are ready to stand up and be heard,” said Mark Gearan, director of the survey.

    “Our candidates and political parties would benefit tremendously from paying close attention to what is now the largest bloc of potential voters in America.

    From the Oz. Gen Snowflake shouldn’t be allowed to vote, That should be the privilege of their elders and betters, who work and pay taxes.

  51. Rae

    How can they be refugees when they refused asylum offered by Mexico?

    The offer is/was conditional upon them remaining in Mexico’s southernmost border states of Chiapas and Oaxaca. Even Mexicans are leaving there.

  52. .

    This being Australia, if you make your own biofuel and do not declare it to the tax office, the state will send their paramilitary death squads around to kick your door in, one morning before dawn.

    Ditto for making your own Gin.

    Once HIH Phillip Cunningham (PBUH) lost the Castle Hill Convict Rebellion, our fate was sealed – tyrannical, moral busybody oppression became our cultural norm.

    Larrikinism died 114 years ago. Not in the horrors of WWI, the fear of communist infiltration in the `950s or after 9/11 – make no mistake, we were never the bastion of freedom we were made out to be.

  53. .

    LOL – I got carried away in the Gillardian hyperbowl – 214 years ago!

  54. Death Giraffe

    On an entirely unrelated theme, do you let your missus near your shed? Bet you don’t. Not unless she’s delivering food or beer. Snoops ex mate is a total schmuck.

    ..
    She is sensible enough to never go out there.
    Unless bringing me a cup of tea. Usually just before I use the angle grinder.
    Love cold tea with grindings.

  55. egg_

    On an entirely unrelated theme, do you let your missus near your shed?

    Aren’t wymminses insisting on access to Men’s Bars and Men’s Sheds across the country?

    They can stock up the Men’s Bar Fridges in the Men’s Sheds?

    If they’re short, you can put a stubby on their head…

  56. .

    It’s called “invading male spaces”. They’re not happy unless we’re unhappy – even if you haven’t even asked them out yet.

  57. Gab

    In case you missed some fine hammering and gluing on the
    last page.

    Yes I did miss it.

    Love your assistant (and sometime supervisor giving you instructions). And she was well dressed for the occasion too! The lass has class.

  58. Armadillo

    Crikey Death, that’s 3 minutes and 59 seconds of my life wasted.

    Why don’t you just go and buy a car and save us all the torture? There’s nice stuff out there these days. Just go and buy a Merc or a Beamer or something.

  59. Death Giraffe

    I love your assistant’s outfit, particularly her sweet little shoes.

    ..
    Despite my attempts to get ‘er to take an interest in things such as motorcycles, rifles and spanners, the kid insists on dressing like a princess and doing girl stuff.

  60. John Constantine

    “Second quality oil was recovered from the thick blubber, but Rose (1958) points out that the blubber oil was mixed with case and junk oil in Peru and all of it was considered first quality. More oil was obtained from the blubber and other parts than from the case and junk in the massive head. The blubber can be as much as 18 inches thick on the shoulder and back.”

    http://www.petroleumhistory.org/OilHistory/pages/Whale/sperm_oil.html

    Here are oil yields from sperm whales, so we could work backwards when estimating yields from the average Q and A leftist panelist.

    Would you trust your common rail diesel motor to the quality of a swampies junk oil though?.

  61. stackja

    Those who call Ross Cameron racist are fools, liars or lazy — and wrong
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    November 4, 2018 6:00pm
    Subscriber only

    ALL those journalists and activists now calling sacked Sky News host Ross Cameron a “racist” are fools or liars. Or just lazy.

    Cameron was last week sacked by Sky News after an activist group tweeted a clip of him saying: “If you go to Disneyland in Shanghai on any typical morning of the week you will see 20,000 black-haired, slanty-eyed, yellow-skinned Chinese desperate to get into Disneyland.”

    The activists, Sleeping Giant, are of the Left and determined to destroy Sky by attacking its advertisers.

    Cameron sure gave them material to work with, stupidly using provocative language that, out of context, made him seem an anti-Chinese bigot.

    The media Left pounced.

  62. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    If you want to protect criminal aliens – VOTE DEMOCRAT. If you want to protect Law-Abiding Americans – VOTE REPUBLICAN! (link: http://Vote.GOP) Vote.GOP

  63. Death Giraffe

    Would you trust your common rail diesel motor to the quality of a swampies junk oil though?.

    ..
    Surely such minute quantities aren’t worth harvesting?

  64. Tel

    Despite my attempts to get ‘er to take an interest in things such as motorcycles, rifles and spanners, the kid insists on dressing like a princess and doing girl stuff.

    I tried to get my girls interested in math; and they both decided that cute animals were more interesting, pets and stuff, even fish! I mean fish or a spreadsheet, which one is more adorable? No brainer!

    Don’t mess with hormonal… you can’t win that one. Also freedom, people need to decide for themselves.

  65. Death Giraffe

    you can’t win that one

    ..
    They are what they are. I suspect all that stuff is baked into the individual.

  66. mh

    Donald Trump: Woman Who Made Fake Brett Kavanaugh Accusation ‘A Damn Disgrace’

    President Donald Trump shared his outrage after learning that one of the women accusing Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh of rape admitted that she fabricated her story.
    “It’s a damn disgrace,” Trump said, calling it a “filthy dirty lie.”

    The president commented on the news during a rally at the Bozeman, Montana airport on Saturday.

    “One of his accusers said it was all a lie, she made up the story. It was a total lie. It was fake,” Trump said. “She lied about the story about rape.”

    The accuser, Judy Munro-Leighton, contacted the Senate Judiciary committee claiming that Kavanaugh and a friend raped her several times. Senate Committee chairman Chuck Grassley referred her to the Justice Department for prosecution, noting that she admitted that her accusation was false.

    “She lied and then we’re supposed to sit back and take it,” Trump said. “It was a made-up story.”…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/03/donald-trump-woman-who-made-fake-brett-kavanaugh-accusation-a-damn-disgrace/

  67. Peter

    Has anyone told Sarah Sea-Patrol that the ABC’s Pine Gap show is not a documentary?

  68. Oh come on

    Something CL wrote at the start of the thread about a new class of Chinese submarines caught my eye:

    If they used Chinese steal and building standards

    LOL oh they used Chinese steal all right – you can take that to the bank.

  69. zyconoclast

    This being Australia, if you make your own biofuel and do not declare it to the tax office, the state will send their paramilitary death squads around to kick your door in, one morning before dawn.

    A bit like owning a still.

    Distilling the facts about illicit alcohol
    The ATO has issued a warning to those distilling their own spirits.

    Assistant Commissioner Tom Wheeler said using a still to make spirits was illegal without a licence. A still is equipment used to separate substances from a liquid mix, by using the different evaporation rates of those substances.

    “You must hold an excise manufacturer licence before you can distil alcohol, regardless of the capacity of your still. And even if you distil alcohol for personal use, excise duty is still payable on all the alcohol you make, whether you have a licence to produce it or not,” Mr Wheeler said.

    “Excise licences are only granted where appropriate under the Excise Act, which includes needing to have appropriate experience, equipment and premises.

    “Besides being illegal, distilling your own spirits can be harmful and even fatal in some cases. This is due to the volatility of the distillation process and the possible toxicity of improperly produced alcohol.

    “It should be noted that producing beer, wine or cider for personal use is not illegal, nor do you require a licence.”

    Illegally distilling alcohol can result in penalties and even jail time. Penalties can include fines up to $85,000 or more or two years in prison. Mr Wheeler explained there were also strict rules for obtaining and using a still.

    “If you buy, sell, import, move, manufacture or have possession of a still with more than five litres capacity you need to apply for permission for the still from the ATO,” Mr Wheeler added.

    “There are also penalties of $8,500 or more if you do not have the appropriate permission for the still.”

    To find out more about stills and distillation of alcohol, visit ato.gov.au/stills

  70. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘I could only find them in white sorry’: Pauline Hanson sends tissues to Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young for getting angry over ‘pro-Nazi slogans’

    From the “Daily Mail.” Always escalate…

  71. .

    Illegally distilling alcohol can result in penalties and even jail time. Penalties can include fines up to $85,000 or more or two years in prison. Mr Wheeler explained there were also strict rules for obtaining and using a still.

    Just predatory, thieving arsewipes.

  72. rickw

    The ATO has issued a warning to those distilling their own spirits.

    Australia is such socialist hell hole.

    Arky should build a gassifer and run the Model A on wood gas. Then we can sit back and watch the ATO back calculate his avoided fuel excise and GST….

  73. Eyrie

    Moonshiners vs Revenuers.
    Let’s hear it for the former. Like Kipling’s “Poor Honest Men”.

  74. cohenite

    Independence in Africa on average took place nearly 60 years ago.
    60 years later there is not one single country with a thriving economy, social stability & freedom, well educated citizens, innovation & entrepreneurship. How much longer do they need?
    After 60 years it can no longer be the fault of the colonialists there is something fundamentally wrong with this continent.
    South Africa is now no exception.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=438159776588089&set=a.127853070952096&type=3&theater&ifg=1

  75. John Constantine

    New Caledonia looks like voting no to independence from France.

    No frexit.

    As soon as France leaves, the big Men will sell out to the chicoms anyway.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  76. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Parliament demands ban on neo-fascist and neo-Nazi groups in the EU


    MEPs argue that the impunity enjoyed by far-right organisations in some member states is one of the reasons behind the rise in violent actions, affecting society as a whole and targeting particular minorities such as black Europeans/people of African descent, Jews, Muslims, Roma, non-EU nationals, LGBTI people, and persons with disabilities.

    They propose setting up anti-hate crime units in police forces to ensure these crimes are investigated and prosecuted. They also urge national authorities to “effectively ban neo-fascist and neo-Nazi groups and any other foundation or association that exalts and glorifies Nazism and fascism”.

  77. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2856802, posted on November 4, 2018 at 9:40 pm
    Independence in Africa on average took place nearly 60 years ago.
    60 years later there is not one single country with a thriving economy, social stability & freedom, well educated citizens, innovation & entrepreneurship. How much longer do they need?
    After 60 years it can no longer be the fault of the colonialists there is something fundamentally wrong with this continent.
    South Africa is now no exception.

    And I think we all know why. It’s a little thing called culture. Some are better than others.

    And we are headed to becoming the same as the Africans.

  78. BrettW

    I would just like to add that I am also a fan of what John Carroll wrote.

    We need more academics like him to speak up.

  79. zyconoclast

    We will make you keep voting until you vote for what we want


    Washington State to Vote on a Carbon Tax Again

    Washington’s carbon tax, if it passes, will have consumers paying the lion’s share of the tax through higher prices for gasoline, heating oil and other products

    Washington state’s ballot in 2016 included a provision asking voters if they would approve a carbon tax, but the initiative failed with 59 percent of the voters opposing the measure. This November, the state will try again to solicit favorable votes from the state’s electorate for approval of a tax on carbon dioxide. The carbon tax plan would require fossil-fuel companies to pay $15 per ton of carbon dioxide they release into the atmosphere starting in 2020. The tax would increase by $2 annually (plus inflation) until 2035, when it would reach about $55 per ton. The goal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 20 million metric tons (about 25 percent) by 2035. That would equate to reducing global emissions by 0.02 percent in 2035.

    The ballot will word the plan as a carbon fee, not a tax, to make the initiative more appealing to voters

  80. Oh come on

    VIDEO: Pelosi struggles to cut ribbon with giant scissors

    Weak. And I mean the supposed gotcha, not Pelosi’s participation in the event.

    There is a tonne of footage of Pelosi struggling – and failing – to string a coherent sentence together. Why attempt to ping her for not being able to cut a ribbon with a ridiculous-looking pair of giant scissors? It just looks petty; particularly when there is so much valid material about that genuinely calls into question her ability to be third in line for the Presidency.

  81. Hay Stockard

    Tel,
    Comms cord. Way back in the Jungle it was SOP for the piquet to have a cord attached to the section commander. The jungle was thick and distances short. Silence was paramount. I hope this answers your question.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comms cord. Way back in the Jungle it was SOP for the piquet to have a cord attached to the section commander.

    “Tied around the section cammander’s left knacker” was the rather colorful way it was explained to me, back in the day.

  83. .

    Boomer couple is upset.

    https://www.realestate.com.au/news/were-heartbroken-home-in-same-family-for-93-years-passes-in/

    Yet they have 1.7 million reasons to be happy.

    Never has a generation not understood they cannot have their cake and eat it too, the value of delayed gratification or that they can go without their caravans and flat whites, along with their trendy “continental breakfasts”.

  84. zyconoclast

    A Democratic Wave In Congress Could Change Immigration Policy

    Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, a D.C.-based immigration advocacy group, predicted Democrats would pursue “an aggressive oversight agenda.” He said there’s “no doubt” they would use congressional committees to investigate who is responsible for the Trump administration’s family separation policy, which drew international outrage.

  85. Richard Bender

    On an entirely unrelated theme, do you let your missus near your shed?

    If she’s finished polishing the rocker covers, sure.

  86. Steve trickler

    I’ll post it again.

    The bloke behind the camera has captured award winning footage.

    He has.



  87. Oh come on

    A lot of new handles popping up over the last month or two.

  88. Old School Conservative

    .
    #2856817, posted on November 4, 2018 at 10:27 pm
    Boomer couple is upset.

    “Heartbroken” is a feeling you get when selling the family home, not your reaction to receiving a lower than expected price.

  89. Pedro the Ignorant

    Sad news from the Kimberleys about the young bloke perishing on the Gibb River road.

    Lesson to be learned, never travel solo without a PLB or EPIRB, food to last for a week and and lots and lots and lots of water.

    In that country you can live for ages without proper food, but without water your lifespan can measured in hours.

    He had a great desert bike in the Honda Africa, seems he was an experienced bushie, but the lack of communication via satphone or beacon cost him his life.

    It’s a hard and unforgiving country in remote Oz. Be prepared.

  90. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The bloke behind the camera has captured award winning footage.

    I get it, antifa wear masks to hide the embarrassment of being beaten up by some proud boys.

  91. Old School Conservative

    Steve, I can’t work out who is who in that Portland video – the only concrete thing I saw was the push and shove by people with cameras trying to get the best viewpoint.

  92. Oh come on

    I’ll post it again.

    The bloke behind the camera has captured award winning footage.

    I saw that Proud Boys vs Antifa footage shot in Portland a while ago. Looked like a pretty scrappy affair to me – both sides could construe it as a ‘win’, depending on what footage was used.

    But hang on. This happened in Portland. For those that don’t know, Portland makes San Francisco look conservative. So let’s get this straight. A relatively small number of Proud Boys went into deep, deep Antifa heartland, where they were vastly outnumbered and regarded by the local populace with general disdain, and the resulting altercation was inconclusive???

    Antifa participants are headed for a whole world of pain.

  93. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    portland action replay

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In that country you can live for ages without proper food, but without water your lifespan can measured in hours.

    I’m struggling with this. He’d ridden the Nullabor, he was an experienced motorcyclist and bushie, he had plenty of food and water. (Without water, resting in the shade by day, walking by night, you”ll last, as you say a matter of hours.) The only scenario I can think off is that he “came off the bike” was injured, became disorientated and couldn’t think straight.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    Never has a generation not understood they cannot have their cake and eat it too, the value of delayed gratification or that they can go without their caravans and flat whites, along with their trendy “continental breakfasts”.

    And so sayeth the smashed avo generation.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Heartbroken” is a feeling you get when selling the family home, not your reaction to receiving a lower than expected price.

    I’m happy to be corrected, but my understanding of auctions is that the term “passed in” meant that the sellers had put a price on the home on 1.7 million, and had failed to attract any bids at that price, hence the property being “passed in.”

  97. Oh come on

    And so sayeth the smashed avo generation.

    Um no.

    The fact is that a younger generation can criticise an older generation, and the only response the older generation can give that isn’t self-defeating is that the younger generation is mistaken in their criticism. They may like to point out why.* If the older generation starts picking flaws in the younger generation, they are conceding that their generation was pretty shit in the parenting department.

    *for instance, it’s a colossal pity that the Greatest Generation didn’t mount a much more robust response to the challenge that their Boomer children made to their values

  98. Pedro the Ignorant

    I concur, Zulu.
    The most likely scenario is that he came off in a big way, (not hard in that country), got badly injured and couldn’t get to his supplies.

    A $300 personal locator beacon (PLB) carried in a pocket could have saved his life.

  99. .

    Anyone celebrating the patriots and saints, Saint General Guy Fawkes and Saint Sir Robert Catesby, the only men to enter any Parliament with honest intentions tomorrow night?

    I might light up another Cigarillo and blow up a small amount of kerosene. I should have gotten some fireworks from Canberra last time I visited.

  100. .

    I’ve been a bit provocative tonight:

    HIH Phillip Cunningham
    “trendy” continental breakfasts
    Saint General Guy Fawkes
    Saint Sir Robert Catesby

    At least 3/4 are true though.

  101. Old School Conservative

    Correct Zulu.
    From the article:
    After the gavel fell, the agents managed to get the bidder up to $1.67 million, but it was still a way off the $1.75 million reserve.
    Passed in at that point = no sale. They are looking at post-auction offers now.
    (I assumed it had sold for $1.7m – wrong)

  102. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2856833, posted on November 4, 2018 at 11:09 pm

    Driving anywhere, in the Wheatbelt, even somewhere so well traveled as Great Eastern Highway to Kalgoorlie, I was always struck by the amount of fools who didn’t even take the most basic of precautions – spare fuel and water for the radiator, let alone drinking water even for children in the car…

  103. .

    Geez. I feel sorry for this guy.

    As it doesn’t get anywhere near freezing here, would there be any need in having Anti-freeze in the coolant.?
    It is more important to keep the bike cooler than warm.
    I’ve just ordered some MoCool to put in my 5000km 2013 Rsv4 Factory.
    Can anyone recommend if i should empty out the Aprilia Antifreeze, replacing it with Distilled water and the MoCool.
    The bike regularly sees 104C even at night in slow traffic. So it needs cooling down.

    Ethylene glycol has a boiling point of 197.3 degrees C.

  104. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Saint General Guy Fawkes
    Saint Sir Robert Catesby

    Wasn’t there a Catesby – not a common name – who was one of Richard 111’s henchmen, and who lost his head as a result?

  105. Old School Conservative

    Some pleasant evening reading courtesy of Wikipedia – the sentence handed down to Guy Fawkes and his fellow conspirators:
    each of the condemned would be drawn backwards to his death, by a horse, his head near the ground. They were to be “put to death halfway between heaven and earth as unworthy of both”. Their genitals would be cut off and burnt before their eyes, and their bowels and hearts removed. They would then be decapitated, and the dismembered parts of their bodies displayed so that they might become “prey for the fowls of the air”

  106. Steve trickler

    Old School Conservative
    #2856826, posted on November 4, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    After a couple of viewings, you’ll figure it out.

  107. None

    The papers are telling me the smashed avo generation is planning to retire early by saving everything and spending nothing.

  108. Old School Conservative

    Yes Steve, it is becoming clearer.

  109. Pedro the Ignorant

    German tourists seem to be the worst offenders for lack of preparation when touring remote areas in Oz.

    I came across a stranded group in the Gascoyne once that had three flat tyres, no repair kit and had been there for two days. They were 15kms up a seismic road leading nowhere, and it is pure luck that they were visible from an antenna site I was servicing.

    Supplies in their rental camper were three dozen beers, a loaf of bread and a huge salami sausage.

    No water, no maps, no phone or EPIRB, no idea. To top it all off, they demanded that I load them and their gear and take them to town.

    Gave them a jerrycan of water and phoned the area police with a long/lat location and left them to it.

  110. None

    Sweet vid, DG. Your little assistant that is. But not watching 4 minutes of hammering nails.

  111. mh

    Oh come on
    #2856813, posted on November 4, 2018 at 10:22 pm
    VIDEO: Pelosi struggles to cut ribbon with giant scissors

    Weak. And I mean the supposed gotcha, not Pelosi’s participation in the event.

    There is a tonne of footage of Pelosi struggling – and failing – to string a coherent sentence together. Why attempt to ping her for not being able to cut a ribbon with a ridiculous-looking pair of giant scissors? It just looks petty; particularly when there is so much valid material about that genuinely calls into question her ability to be third in line for the Presidency.

    Because…..

    JC insists that Pelosi has the onset of dementia. Therefore it’s unkind to put the serious stuff online, the giant scissor ribbon cutting is funny (to some) because it’s so lame.

  112. Bushkid

    Former United Nations climate chief Christiana Figueres has repudiated Australian mining giant BHP for its refusal to stop mining coal, suggesting the decision is uneconomic and poor nations do not need the “toxic” and “expensive” fossil fuel.

    So, a multinational company whose business is mining has ignored poor Christina Fig. Just WTF did she expect them to do? Drop everything and bow to her “superior intelligence”, and quietly go out of business, throwing thousands of ordinary people out of work around the world, leaving ships sitting idle and their crews unemployed, shutting down industries here and overseas, robbing developing countries of the opportunity to advance?

    Actually, yes. In her ignorance and stupidity, that’s exactly what she expected them to do. Too dumb to bother feeding, but in a dangerously powerful position thanks to the UN.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    German tourists seem to be the worst offenders for lack of preparation when touring remote areas in Oz.

    Pretty extreme example, Pedro, but some Aussies don’t have much better ideas. I’m remembering the doughnut, who ran out of fuel on the road between Southern Cross and Coolgardie, and left his wife and children in the car, 43 degrees plus , while he took their meager supplies of drinking water and set off , hitchhiking, looking for a servo. The Memsahib had a great deal to say, none of it complimentary….

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Memsahib had a great deal to say, none of it complimentary….

    Sorry, said doughnut had left his wife and children in the car, windows up and doors locked because “You don’t know who’ll come along”…

  115. When their monty crows that the nazi ethnostates of the West will be crushed by Transnational forces, and persecuted by sanctions if any anglosphere settlement launches a last gasp final stand, that is just the talking points that are being spread and taught.

    Your descent into Birdism is nearly complete, Johnny Comrade. Noone is fooled who you mean when you say “transnational”.

  116. Steve trickler

    Old School Conservative
    #2856844, posted on November 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    Yes Steve, it is becoming clearer.

    Excellent.

    Antifa copped a beating. It is now history.

  117. None

    I’m kicking myself for not taking down the number plate and reporting the fuckwit in the BMW convertible with his girlfriend next to him and another couple squashed in the mininsl back seat -her in the middle leanING on dude on the left – holding up traffic this arvo because he was blowing on a bong while driving. Fuckwits like him cause accidents.

  118. Oh come on

    If I were old, and younger generations leveled criticisms of the values of my generation, I wouldn’t respond by reeling off a bunch of their own faults that I’d noticed. Perhaps I could accuse the young folk of being a bunch of useless, self-indulgent wankers, and I might be absolutely correct. Problem is that I’d be indicting myself and my peers far more than I would be the targets of my criticism. It’d be a case of belittling the most profound essence of whatever it means to belong to my generation. And this is the conundrum that the Boomer defenders here face.

    It’s interesting. The Boomers that have caused the most damage to the social fabric they inherited understand the problem with castigating subsequent generations. These Hillary Boomers are constantly expressing their admiration for the youth, and their optimism that the future is in good hands yada yada yada. This is as self-serving as it is insincere.

    What is strange is that the Boomers here, who otherwise have no truck with their revolutionary peers, are constantly defending their collective age group against legitimate criticisms made of Boomer values that these Boomers themselves would level in a heartbeat if the inter-generational factor was subtracted.

  119. None

    I recommend Sinclair post this in the interests of free speech and the scurrilous slandering of Ross Cameron by our moronic lying leftist press.
    https://youtu.be/9fw1QwlzOcE

  120. Pedro the Ignorant

    There are legions of stories of dickheads who perish in the outback from lack of commonsense and/or preparation when travelling in remote areas.

    I never cease to be amazed at the naivety and “she’ll be right” attitude of some fools who venture off the beaten track.

    Having said that, there are situations that even the best prepared and competent bushie can come to grief.

    Take your survival seriously. Outback travel can turn to shit in a nanosecond.

  121. Bruce in WA

    Mid-40s temperature. He wasn’t going to last long in that country with or without water.

    Wife and I rode our BMW across the Nullarbor (return). Worst day, we got to Nullarbor and the budgies were (literally) falling out of the sky, dying in the heat. We got to Madura, wife went to check in while I refilled the bike. “Official” temperature that day: 46°C; unofficial temperature 52°C; road temperature (in the sun), 65°C. Final drive on the bike was too hot to touch. I drank two litres of water and still couldn’t urinate. Got into our room, stripped off, stood under the “cold” shower and then flopped on the bed, air-con and fan going flat out. One hour later, it had dropped the room temperature to 30°C.

    I can understand how people die. We were both in full riding gear: full-face helmets, armoured jackets and trousers, high boots, gloves … at one stage on the ride, my wife, who was wearing a “camelback”™, poured some water down the back of my neck to cool me off; it actually burned me.

  122. Old School Conservative

    Take your survival seriously. Outback travel can turn to shit in a nanosecond.

    You could be lucky and have John Jarrett come along and offer some help.

  123. Infidel Tiger

    Why don’t they make movies like Rainman anymore?

  124. Steve trickler

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2856857, posted on November 5, 2018 at 12:17 am

    Remember this?

    Horrific desert death: parents can sue
    6 September 2002 — 10:00am

    Nearly 16 years after the deaths of two teenage boys in the searing heat of the Gibson Desert – one having resorted to blowing his brains out with a rifle – their ordeal still haunts Australians.

    It has been a long, hard road for Les and Sandra Annetts, whose son James, as a 16-year-old Griffith schoolboy, responded to an advertisement for jackaroos in the Kimberley in 1986 and left home for an adventure.

    Yesterday, the High Court cleared the way for the Annetts to sue a pastoral company, Australian Stations Pty Ltd, for damages for emotional shock.

    The decision came after the Annetts family, deprived of resources and in the end relying on the commitment of their solicitor, Angus Neil-Smith, challenged Western Australia’s judiciary and insisted they had a right to sue.

    Ms Annetts, 52, at her home at Yenda, near Griffith, said the ruling was the best news the couple had received in all that time. Her 57-year-old husband had hardly worked since they lost their son.

    “He was a wonderful boy,” she said. “He was an excellent sportsman and received a letter from the then sports minister John Brown congratulating him. He was in the Boy Scouts. He loved the outdoors.”

    Ms Annetts said that she and her husband would sue in Western Australia. “We have no intention of dropping off. James meant far too much to us. We have fought for 16 years and if we have to fight for another 16 years, we will.”

    What James and Simon Amos, 17, from South Australia, did not realise when they landed in the Kimberley to work on part of the cattle baron Peter Sherwin’s vast empire was that the conditions they would be forced to endure would be appalling.

    The cattle industry was in depression and the station management, represented by Giles Loader, wanted to cut costs.

    The boys had only been at the main station, Flora Valley, about 100 kilometres east of Halls Creek, for seven weeks when they were sent to be caretakers on two properties.

    The boys found themselves alone, doing daily bore runs, checking that windmills and other equipment were working properly. They lived in substandard conditions on very low pay. Mr Loader kept in regular contact by radio, but there was no other support.

    On the night of December 1, 1986, the boys, whose properties were 150 kilometres apart, took off into the desert in an unroadworthy utility. What they were doing, nobody knows. What is certain is that on an isolated track, used only by seismic survey teams, the utility got bogged.

    In heat that soared into the 40s the boys made off on foot, travelling 18 kilometres before making a camp, where Simon Amos shot himself. James struggled another two kilometres, scrawled a message of love to his family on a bottle, then succumbed to heat and dehydration.

    Although Mr Loader reported the boys missing reasonably quickly and an air and ground search was organised, the vehicle and the skeletal remains were not found until late January 1987. The discovery confirmed “the worst of our fears”, Ms Annetts said.

    The couple, who had needed the intervention of the then NSW Premier, Barrie Unsworth, to obtain legal aid in Western Australia for the coroner’s inquest, battled on. Ms Annett’s health broke down and her husband, a glazier, stopped work to help her.

    Holmes a Court family interests, which had bought the pastoral company from Sherwin, fought the application of the Annetts for compensation for psychiatric injury.

    The West Australian Court of Appeal ruled in 2000 that the couple were not sufficiently close to the events to have suffered such injury. They were not satisfied and when funds ran out Mr Neil-Smith used his own money to appeal to the High Court.

    Yesterday, in its precedent-setting judgement, the court ruled that the physical separation did not in itself make the suffering of the family distant in law, and that they might be held to have suffered psychiatric injury.

    “The High Court has said that there should not be any hard-and-fast rules as to whether the plaintiffs were sufficiently proximate to the events to suffer psychiatric injury,” Mr Neil-Smith said.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/horrific-desert-death-parents-can-sue-20020906-gdflw2.html

  125. Oh come on

    With the U.N. depending on Washington for about a quarter of its budget, officials there worry that Haley’s successor as U.S. ambassador will lack the political savvy and –– more importantly –– the personal rapport with Trump to soften the president’s harder-edged foreign policy approach.

    What a load of horseshit. These people are flattering themselves by fretting that Nikki Haley’s replacement will “lack the political savvy” required to do the job. I think Haley served as a very good American ambassador to the UN. I think she did a very good job of translating the Trump agenda into something the globalists could understand and digest, however unpleasant that process was for them.

    What UN officials are really worried about is a US ambassador, appointed by Trump, who has a remit to go in and take a wrecking ball to the place. That doesn’t demonstrate a lack of political savvy. It demonstrates contempt – richly deserved contempt – for the UN and its objectives and its processes and procedures.

  126. Infidel Tiger

    #2856817, posted on November 4, 2018 at 10:27 pm
    Boomer couple is upset.

    https://www.realestate.com.au/news/were-heartbroken-home-in-same-family-for-93-years-passes-in/

    Yet they have 1.7 million reasons to be happy.

    Never has a generation not understood they cannot have their cake and eat it too, the value of delayed gratification or that they can go without their caravans and flat whites, along with their trendy “continental breakfasts”.

    Moral of the story: Chatswood is now a majority Chicom suburb that no one apart from chinamen wants to live in. When you slightly turn of the Chicom spigot, down go property prices.

    Watching all these boomer xunts get torched on property is going to be a joy. Reap what you sow, boomer filth.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Take your survival seriously. Outback travel can turn to shit in a nanosecond.

    Combat Survival Course, R.A.A.F. Townsville taught me that the best survival aid you have, is the one that’s over your tongue, and between your ears. It’s your brain. Use it. Carry the basics. It takes seconds for a survival situation to develop.

  128. Pedro the Ignorant

    Brave effort, Bruce. Windspeed and heat together can be a killer.

    Back in the day, I used to climb antenna towers in outback locations where temps went through the roof by day, so I would start at first light to get the job done before I fried. Not always successful. 🙂

    Occasionally it got so hot that were scorch marks on my gloves from the metal structures, and tools had to be dunked in water to cool off before handling.

    These days, I send the young’ns up the towers. Character building.

  129. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Watching all these boomer xunts get torched on property is going to be a joy. Reap what you sow, boomer filth.

    I’d rather be a baby boomer, then Gen X and Y, hobbling along after, bawling that it’s not fair, all they want is in their late twenties, what it took the boomers into their mid sixties to accumulate.

  130. Oh come on

    JC insists that Pelosi has the onset of dementia.

    Looks more to me like she’s had a stroke or few. Doubt it would be dementia. I don’t think she could maintain the public profile she does if she was suffering from dementia.

    the giant scissor ribbon cutting is funny (to some) because it’s so lame.

    I didn’t find it funny or illustrative of anything. Anyone could have a bad TV moment trying to cut a ribbon with a giant pair of scissors (that appeared to look like cardboard or plastic).

    Therefore it’s unkind to put the serious stuff online

    Not unkind in the slightest. I mean, it’s all online anyway. Putting that aside, a prominent politician has to be able to front the public. If allowances and excuses have to be made so they don’t have to front the public, it’s undoubtedly time for them to step aside.

  131. Dave in Marybrook

    I’ve never understood the road biker urge.
    I mean, riding a motorbike is great, don’t get me wrong. I still get the thrill buzzing along a wadi while the dog races along the top, or running the kids to the bus-stop, two in front of me and schoolbags in the back.
    But you’ve got so much less than a in a car. In a car, wear whatever you like. Change radio stations, put in a cassette. Talk out loud in extended conversation to your passenger, or passengers. Read, play I-spy, the ukulele. Put the windows down, put the heater on. Nurse a bucket of chips and a ginger beer. Carry a carton on the back seat, a canoe on the roof, and most importantly, a dog. Seatbelts and airbags and Swedish steel structural protection.
    On a bike, you’ve got nada. You have to pull over if you want to so much as have a drink of water. Live in fear of a T-bone or a pothole.
    Motorbikes should be restricted to commuter Lambrettas, or cop bikes with a huge faring kit for short daytime scenic rides on dry weather with good visibility and close ambulance access. Anyone who wants a bike for any other purpose needs to have a think about their deeper emotional needs.
    Just sunk $3000 into the ’95 Volvo. Tan leather. Purrs like a kitten. Thought about re-gassing the air con, but with all the windows down at the touch of a button, and wagon airspace within, why bother? It’s not like I’m doing the Mitchell Plateau.

  132. Oh come on

    I’d rather be a baby boomer, then Gen X and Y, hobbling along after, bawling that it’s not fair, all they want is in their late twenties, what it took the boomers into their mid sixties to accumulate.

    What a shit job you did in raising your children so badly, as you have described. Why are you not deeply ashamed?

  133. Pedro the Ignorant

    Remember this?

    – Steve Trickler.
    Oh yes.
    The Annetts and Amos boys’ deaths sent reverbrations around the North West at the time and made a heap of pastoralists re-think how they were employing young jackeroos.

    To be honest, many of the station managers back then were ruthlessly exploiting young workers who had come to the North West with romantic images of station life that was nothing like reality.

    Conditions are far, far better for young workers on stations these days, but again, the life is not without risk.

  134. Oh come on

    Boomers whining about the deficiencies of subsequent generations – like someone who does a crap on the coffee table in the middle of their living room, and goes on to complain bitterly about the foul smell they have to put up with while they’re watching TV.

    Cause and effect. Cause and effect. You are the parents of what you criticise. What does that say about you?

  135. Infidel Tiger

    The funniest thing about the Boomers is that they actually believe “they built that”.

    The worst people in human history and too stupid to realise it. Luckily they are all dying now and we can make them suffer.

  136. Oh come on

    Interesting point by Kelly-Ann Conway: the only Democrat who acknowledges the booming Trump economy is Barack Obama, because Obama is attempting to take credit for it.

  137. Steve trickler

    Pedro the Ignorant
    #2856870, posted on November 5, 2018 at 12:58 am
    Remember this?

    – Steve Trickler.
    Oh yes.
    The Annetts and Amos boys’ deaths sent reverbrations around the North West at the time and made a heap of pastoralists re-think how they were employing young jackeroos.

    To be honest, many of the station managers back then were ruthlessly exploiting young workers who had come to the North West with romantic images of station life that was nothing springs olike reality.

    Conditions are far, far better for young workers on stations these days, but again, the life is not without risk.

    —-

    I was in primary school.

    And it’s one of those memories that always comes to mind when people perish in the outback.

    And then this bloke comes to mind.

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x246cmg

  138. Hay Stockard

    Dave in Marybrook,
    Might have known you are a Volvo driver. You have that attitude.

  139. Mark A

    Just sunk $3000 into the ’95 Volvo.

    And when it breaks down junk it, or you’ll sink another few grand for nothing.

  140. Pedro the Ignorant
    #2856870, posted on November 5, 2018 at 12:58 am
    Remember this?

    Yep, Remember it well.
    I haven’t before heard that version of events.

    To be honest, many of the station managers back then were ruthlessly exploiting young workers who had come to the North West with romantic images of station life that was nothing like reality.

    The bigger shock wasn’t that they’d died, but that greenhorn jackeroos not just from inside, but from towns, were each living alone, & working alone as bore-runners.
    I never worked for Giles Loader or Peter Sherwin, I knew individually fellows who had worked for Loader, they weren’t as shocked as you’d first expect.
    Mr. Loader may have inspired unquestioning obedience in his staff, but he sure wasn’t popular. Okay many bosses aren’t popular, but Loader wasn’t admired either.
    As I said above, the belief that the lad shot himself is a new one on me.

  141. Mark A

    Hmmm, Tom is late. Very late.
    Hope he’s just slept in and not having trouble with his laptop?

  142. Tintarella di Luna

    Despite my attempts to get ‘er to take an interest in things such as motorcycles, rifles and spanners, the kid insists on dressing like a princess and doing girl stuff.

    Fear not Death giraffe – the joyless ‘Safe Schools will soon knock that out of her.

  143. Tom

    No Leak cartoon today as the Paywallian’s spastic website freezes my laptop whenever I try to retrieve content (even though I am a subscriber). News Corp Australia has the world’s slowest websites – even worse than the Daily Mail. They were designed by cybergraphic neanderthals and are full of complicated junk code that makes accessing them a nightmare. PS: today’s Leak goes with some media gossip about Nein’s takeover of Fakefacts — a fairly unremarkable rendition a conversation between Nein’s chairman, Peter Costello, and Fakefacts clown prince CEO Greg Hywood.

  144. Peter

    Back in the day when you could slap programmers, you could have had the Nein websites purring like kittens.

  145. I am bespoke

    I don’t identify with any generation.

  146. Mark A

    Completely off topic, I used to get an ad in my inbox about cordless drills.
    Two drills with accessories for the price of one to be precise.
    Now that my old drill conked out, would you believe I can remember the name of the firm, or received that ad again?

    They are laughing at me for ignoring them before, that’s what I think.
    Karma.

  147. calli

    Sitting in AIH contemplating the drive from San Antonio to Houston. The drivers in Texas are nuts – high speed and aggressive in their big steroided twin cabs. We were doing well above the speed limit and they were passing us like we were nailed to a post.

    To add to the confusion, the approach to Houston is a maze of spaghetti and toll roads, so much so that the GPS loses you or places the car on a different loop with the resulting conflicting directions. It tested our usually calm driving demeanour to the limit. Sunday morning too! We popped in to a servo and there was a sermon running on the radio.

    Only in America.

  148. calli

    IAH. Totally discombobulated.

  149. calli

    The comment under that Benson cartoon is a doozy.

    The dumb, it burns!

  150. John Constantine

    “Anger is the motivating emotion”

    Sky news weather reporting on the record number of progressive wymynsys standing against Trump.

    Sound grab of pale stale Elizabeth warren, declaring angrily that Nobody will tell wymynsys to sit down and shut up ever again.

    Then sky seamlessly switch to celebrating that their turnfailures replacement in parliament is to be sworn in and that Scomo is now to have a problem with angry wymynsys.

  151. Snoopy

    Your descent into Birdism is nearly complete, Johnny Comrade. Noone is fooled who you mean when you say “transnational”.

    You should really avoid hanging out with your BDS besties, Monty. Too much exposure to those Leftist creeps is impacting upon your comprehension.

  152. John Constantine

    Storms for Victoria, most of the agricultural part of the state now past seeing any benefit from rain for crops. Sheepfeed down south will benefit, and widespread storms tipped for new south wales pastoral zone could remove destocking pressure.

    Last weeks 60 buck a head drop in processing sheep unlikely to drop further when days of rain come into the equation.

    The autumn break 2019 pricing for breeding sheep is generally figured to be white hot, but that is still 24 weeks away at a net two bucks a week after woolgrowth cost to feed on for a lambing ewe.

    Profitable punt if you can buy a ewe for 150 bucks, join up, feed fifty bucks, lamb down and sell after the autumn break for a hundred bucks profit.

    Unless it doesn’t rain, then you get skun.

    [ note, all the antifa trolls got out of this post is that the Nazi ethnostate term ‘white hot’ was used, therefore revealing the writer as being as Nazi as Churchill and Biggles and Blyton. Reports must be typed up and forwarded to their block supervisor.]

    Comrades.

  153. egg_

    Sound grab of pale stale Elizabeth warren, declaring angrily that Nobody will tell wymynsys to sit down and shut up ever again.

    Is she going to learn to piss standing up?

  154. Dianeh

    ound grab of pale stale Elizabeth warren, declaring angrily that Nobody will tell wymynsys to sit down and shut up ever again.

    The problem for Warren is that for most of us, we have never been told to sit down and shut up.

    Only her lunatic followers and Sky News presenters believe that this rhetoric is anything but bullshit.

  155. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2856852, posted on November 5, 2018 at 12:05 am
    When their monty crows that the nazi ethnostates of the West will be crushed by Transnational forces, and persecuted by sanctions if any anglosphere settlement launches a last gasp final stand, that is just the talking points that are being spread and taught.

    Your descent into Birdism is nearly complete, Johnny Comrade. Noone is fooled who you mean when you say “transnational”.

    The UN is a Joo*oish conspiracy? Who (apart from the lackey of the fascist left) knew?

  156. John Constantine

    The end of cash is exposed.

    When Telstra system failure means tap and go doesn’t work, the services economy falls off the cliff.

    Imagine the State making your tap and go card area limited?. Your mobile phone area limited?. Your electric vehicle area limited?.

    Pale Stale Males currently would just drive their A Models with charcoal gasifiers anywhere they want and pay cash when they get there. maybe having a global roaming satellite phone registered in Montana for emergencies.

    All too soon though, thinking like this will be a thoughtcrime, and their informer class, their lowest of their low will be making reports on any escapee from the gulag breaking curfew.

    The future is cashless, as the mentality has been revealed that for a large convoy of the high spending demographic, cash makes you feel bad when you spend it, but tapping and going makes you happy.

  157. Snoopy

    Taxpayers could one day be slugged hundreds of millions of dollars to backfill some of Australia’s biggest coal-mining pits, with a new report finding less than a third have been rejuvenated properly.

    The report, from environmental group Lock the Gate, reviewed published data from nine major coal mines.

    It found collectively less than a third of their disturbed lands have been restored with new soil and vegetation, leaving an area bigger than the Royal National Park unrehabilitated.

    LOL

    Here’s a thought. Do nothing. Total cost? Zero.

  158. Herodotus

    yes, Tom, the News Ltd sites are a nightmare unless you enrich the hardware manufacturers further by upgrading.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    Allum Bokhari has an excellent article today on another aspect of the current deep division between sides in politics.

    BOKHARI: Everywhere We Look, Elites Demonize, Delegitimize, and Censor Ordinary People — Elections Are the Way to Fight Back

    Persuasive and very well referenced by links. Indeed I think it describes Australia much more than the US, given the uniparty in power here. RTWT.

  160. vr

    Tilda Swinton’s Spaniels Are A Lot To Handel

    Loved this video of the dogs frolicking to strains of Handel.

  161. .

    I suggest that we all blacklist FaceBook!

  162. John Constantine

    Gumboots for Melbourne cup fashions on the field.

    Their julie bishop of course will not tread in mud, the billionaire property developers numbers stored in her mobile phone means that she can simply tread from helicopter to luxury sponsors tent upon a path formed from the upturned faces of the proles that have been beaten down into the mud for her convenience.

    Comrade Maaaaaates.

  163. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bad news for Cats wanting to follow Dr B on a sojourn to Sri Lanka.

    Sri Lanka crisis: House of Cards in the Indian Ocean

    While you need to parse the article for BBCism the story is that Sri Lanka suddenly has had a really stinky full-on constitutional crisis erupt.

  164. Armadillo

    If you donated money to the Democrats, you would be within your rights to demand a refund.

    It’s like donating to a charity specifically set up for a specific purpose, and then finding out they used it for something totally different altogether.

    Sure most Democrat donors probably don’t care, but they aren’t all open borders fruit cakes.In fact, many Democrat candidates profess they support “secure borders” because they simply want to get elected. They know it’s a big issue to voters.

  165. Entropy

    Snoopy
    #2856914, posted on November 5, 2018 at 7:15 am
    Taxpayers could one day be slugged hundreds of millions of dollars to backfill some of Australia’s biggest coal-mining pits, with a new report finding less than a third have been rejuvenated properly.

    The report, from environmental group Lock the Gate, reviewed published data from nine major coal mines.

    It found collectively less than a third of their disturbed lands have been restored with new soil and vegetation, leaving an area bigger than the Royal National Park unrehabilitated.

    LOL

    Here’s a thought. Do nothing. Total cost? Zero.

    That funny. At least it would be if the media didn’t swallow Lock the Gate’s narrative. Thing is, leaving aside the fact holes that cumulatively are the size of that tiny little litter infested NP spread all across Australia, if a company wants to do business in Australia in the future it has to rehabilitate. And in addition, mines must pay the government up front rehab costs just in case it goes out of business. These funds go into state government coffers of course, so why is it the taxpayers’ bring slugged? Hmmmm? We know the answer to that.

  166. Crossie

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2856917, posted on November 5, 2018 at 7:39 am
    Allum Bokhari has an excellent article today on another aspect of the current deep division between sides in politics.

    BOKHARI: Everywhere We Look, Elites Demonize, Delegitimize, and Censor Ordinary People — Elections Are the Way to Fight Back

    Persuasive and very well referenced by links. Indeed I think it describes Australia much more than the US, given the uniparty in power here. RTWT.

    I hate sounding like a curmudgeon but how long before they start agitating that voting rights be withdrawn from those who commit thought crimes?

  167. I am bespoke

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2856917, posted on November 5, 2018 at 7:39 am

    “likes” and “followers” seem to amplify the narcissistic tone of social media and “influencers” should be considered just any other sales person in fact most of them are just spruiking for free stuff.

  168. John Constantine

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/28/bishops-partner-family-for-travel-claims-but-not-spouse-for-interests-register

    Interesting that bishop could travel the world, signing australia up to unswerving compliance with every big australia mass population property Ponzi scheme going, but was too ashamed to put her boyfriends property developments, [that depend utterly on big australia mass importation of property consumers] on the public record.

    Plus we see the unswerving rewards still flowing to bishop from the property billionaires that benefited so much from the population Ponzi.

    Watch bishop at their melbourne cup hospitality tents, she won’t be treated as a backbencher from a party about to be annihilated, but as the valuable lackey of the Ponzi billionaires.

    Comrades.

  169. C.L.

    Melbourne County Court Chief Judge Peter Kidd springs to the defence of African criminals …
    On tonight’s Four Corners, of course:

    “I can say that in general terms, most of our work, the vast, vast majority of our work does not involve Africans.”

    In general terms.

    Young Sudanese males are overrepresented in certain violent crimes — allegedly committing close to 10 per cent of all aggravated robberies.

    Oh.

    He warned unfair criticism could undermine public confidence in the courts.

    “Criticising the courts is part of the democratic process. I welcome informed criticism,” he said.

    “Unfortunately, a lot of the criticism that occurs is not informed, and it’s not balanced, and it’s not fair.

    “That’s dangerous, because that undermines their confidence in the justice system. That’s our concern. It’s an attack effectively upon the rule of law.”

  170. Crossie

    Russians must have it easier than we do, free speech wise. All they have to remember is not to diss Putin while we live in danger of offending thousands of little wannabe dictators and their proclivities.

  171. Crossie

    “That’s dangerous, because that undermines their confidence in the justice system. That’s our concern. It’s an attack effectively upon the rule of law.”

    Totally unaware of spouting rubbish, people complain about the courts and the laughably termed justice system because they are already in disrepute.

  172. Snoopy

    Facebook Blacklists Conservative Commentator Gavin McInnes and Proud Boys Organization

    Big Tech is facing an existential threat if the GOP holds both houses of Congress. And they know it. They went all in for the Dems. Again. Now it’s crash through or crash.

  173. Tel

    Big Tech is facing an existential threat if the GOP holds both houses of Congress. And they know it. They went all in for the Dems. Again. Now it’s crash through or crash.

    A lot of them are going to be screwed anyway … not because of Trump but because of inevitable rising interest rates.

    Most of these companies are not heavily profitable, and their costs are high, their debt is high, and pretty soon their interest payments will eat everything they earn. Also, since they are just glorified chat rooms, what they do is easy to copy… admittedly it’s hard to make something of such massive scale as Facebook, but then again I don’t need to have umpteen million “friends” who send me cat pictures and leftwing propaganda, so a small scale copy is just fine. Google is probably in a stronger position, and Apple is good because they sell a tangible product and aren’t soaked in debt.

    Peter Schiff is predicting an upcoming tech-wreck and I agree with him, there’s going to be a pruning out process. Schiff says it’s terrible for the US economy, but I think it’s both healthy and overdue. Also, the USA can adapt itself better than any other economy in the world. Oh and Trump turns out to be God, which I admit I was slow to catch on to.

  174. John Constantine

    Their judge claims that court work does not involve Apex Predators, much.

    That is the whole point of their yarragrad diversionary programs, their community Big Man programs and their non-intervention in apex crime at the time, drive around with a community representative in the morning instead.

  175. Old School Conservative

    Tom
    #2856889, posted on November 5, 2018 at 5:47 am
    No Leak cartoon today as the Paywallian’s spastic website freezes my laptop

    My laptop is working fine for everything else except it refuses to load The Oz.

    Is it trying to tell me something?

  176. .

    Also, since they are just glorified chat rooms, what they do is easy to copy… admittedly it’s hard to make something of such massive scale as Facebook,

    The concept is proprietary lock-in.

    If FaceBook ever goes bust, there is no guarantee there ever will be a platform again that everyone will migrate to.

    FaceBook is crap – but you’ve got to coax users off it.

    The manipulation of users is better than the service.

  177. Baldrick

    Media coverage of African offenders ‘skewed’, warns Melbourne chief judge

    So nice of TheirABC and the judiciary to come out in defence of these thugs, three weeks out from the Victorian state election.

    Well played 👍👏

  178. Tel

    That is the whole point of their yarragrad diversionary programs, their community Big Man programs and their non-intervention in apex crime at the time, drive around with a community representative in the morning instead.

    Like “A Clockwork Orange” but more multicultural.

  179. Media coverage of African offenders ‘skewed’, warns Melbourne chief judge

    After the revolt of the ramblers succeeds, the new order will specify very harsh punishments for judges and ex-judges that make political statements.

  180. Tel

    The concept is proprietary lock-in.

    What are you “locking in” exactly? The ability to chit-chat by typing a comment into a small box on a website isn’t so very unique.

    If FaceBook ever goes bust, there is no guarantee there ever will be a platform again that everyone will migrate to.

    So what? Most of those people I don’t want to talk with, and they don’t want to talk with me either. Who cares where they go?

  181. .

    Think like a normie for about five minutes Tel. Then you’ll get it.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    On the night of December 1, 1986, the boys, whose properties were 150 kilometres apart, took off into the desert in an unroadworthy utility. What they were doing, nobody knows. What is certain is that on an isolated track, used only by seismic survey teams, the utility got bogged.

    Family, living in the Kimberly’s at the time, said the lads had heard of a ‘back track” through to the Northern Territory, and were “shooting through.”

  183. .

    How can judges reflect “community values” and NOT make political statements?

    Maybe we should do away with the soft march of authoritarianism with this “community values” rubbish Boob Carr has foisted over all of us.

    It is just a segue for overcriminalisation and harsh penalties for almost everything and a preference to decriminalise over legalisation.

  184. Labor is certainly going to outspend the Libs in the Vic election.
    Full colour ads in local papers with a high quality fold out booklet in the mail today.
    Libs have smaller black and white ads and the usual flyer.

  185. Speedbox

    New fred.

    Yes, early for a Monday.

  186. Death Giraffe

    This thread was shit.

  187. C.L.

    Think like a normie for about five minutes Tel. Then you’ll get it.

    Tel is thinking like a normal.
    Facebook is basically blogspot.com, circa 2002.
    That’s all it is.

  188. Roger

    That’s dangerous, because that undermines their confidence in the justice system. That’s our concern. It’s an attack effectively upon the rule of law.”

    Absolute tosh.

    The freedom to criticise the administration of law is in fact a principle of the rule of law, which of necessity includes free speech.

    If the criticism is uniformed, it should be easy for the learned judge to offer a rebuttal.

    What is he complaining about, then?

    Free speech! It’s a dangerous thing!!

  189. Mark A

    Tel
    #2856956, posted on November 5, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Also, since they are just glorified chat rooms, what they do is easy to copy… admittedly it’s hard to make something of such massive scale as Facebook, but then again I don’t need to have umpteen million “friends” who send me cat pictures and leftwing propaganda, so a small scale copy is just fine.

    Very true, I’m on face book but only family and special interest groups, probably less than two dozen contact points. One can limit the access to most everything on FB bar advertising on the side bar, but you don’t have to take note of that either.

    Besides I like adverts and some junk mail too, lets you know what’s available.

  190. JC

    I would love to have tweeted the Q&A crew a comment about the sexologist, but I’ve been temporarily suspended for rudeness by @jack.

    Fuck I despise Dorsey. Everything about him is just so wrong.

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