Monday Forum: November 5, 2018

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  1. I wonder where I can find Pauline’s brain wave – the turnover tax.

    It is already Liberal/Labor policy.
    It is called “Stamp Duty”.

  2. twostix

    Faced with a backlash, the head of Barker College, Phillip Heath, pledged his support for removing exemptions to anti-discrimination laws that currently let religious schools discriminate against LGBTI staff and students.

    A backlash from who?

    From the atheistic bugmen who send their children to expensive christian schools because they wouldn’t send their children within a million miles of the the degenerate clock work orange institutions their ideology builds.

  3. JC

    I can’t recall what she called it. On second thoughts, I think it was called a transaction tax went all the way through the economic chain. Production/supply, final sales . It was embarrassingly stupid.

  4. John Constantine

    JC, what percentage of Australia’s irrigation water has been removed from productivity and dumped out to sea unused to comply with signed UN conventions?.

    How much more is going to be dumped in the ocean as Australia unswervingly moves to full compliance with the rewilding of settler anglosphere lands required by fashionable decolonialisation theory?.

    The clearances of the productive populations of the irrigation districts were signed up for in quiet transnational rooms, but never promoted as election platforms.

    The ten billion dollar federal government completely owned snowy river stored hydro means the electricity recycles the same water, so the irrigation flows of the snowy that flowed west will quietly be dumped back down the east side of the mountains to irrigate the Pacific.

    Saving the great barrier reef will require rewilding of irrigation areas in compliance with signed transnational conventions.

    The loopholes opened up for the reef will be translated into rewilding non-reef interacting farmland, just as the transnational treaty on the rights of the waterfowl of the coorong was their loophole to strangle the murray darling.

    Lot of bastardry to be answered for.

  5. John Constantine

    The next batch of treaties for indigineous water rights for cultural flows is just the activists using aboriginal people as an excuse for rewilding.

    The transnational treaties signed promising compliance with culling twenty percent of australias sheep and cattle will be unswervingly capitulated to.

  6. JC

    Good sushi is hard to find because there are a lot of Chinese masquerading as Japanese and can’t make it properly. The fish isn’t fresh, the prawns are usually second rate Asian farmed and the rice is not Japanese. When you find a good sushi place you should never let it go. I just had ubereats deliver a delicious authentic sushi main. Just putting it out there.

  7. cohenite

    God, you’re a wanker.

  8. JC

    John

    I wouldn’t hazard to guess, however I take your estimate as being reasonable. I don’t get what your point is though. The Australian government should never be signatory to these treaties. Ever.

    The real issue is that ON doesn’t want mining on rural land. That’s a version of 20s/30s national socialist policies with the pastures being sacrosanct.

  9. candy

    Perhaps Pauline Hanson’s popularity is not due to economic matters so much but other issues a whole lot of people want a voice for, and she provides that voice. I can’t see that anyone expects her to be an expert , but just someone who articulates issues that main parties are too frightened to address.

  10. JC

    Fuck off Cronkite. The fact is that you are a national socialist and always have been. Get the uniform out of the closet and man up.

    National socialist and the safe spacer.

  11. zyconoclast

    Funny how Pauline garners attention when she speaks, who listens to Bernadi?
    He is a softcock.

    One reason is PH is essentially harmless/useless.

    CB may(?) be a threat so will be ignored to ensure he does not get prominence.

  12. Cassie of Sydney

    “candy
    #2858168, posted on November 6, 2018 at 9:48 pm
    Perhaps Pauline Hanson’s popularity is not due to economic matters so much but other issues a whole lot of people want a voice for, and she provides that voice. I can’t see that anyone expects her to be an expert , but just someone who articulates issues that main parties are too frightened to address.”

    Agree entirely Candy.

  13. JC

    Candy

    She is and always has been a trougher. She’s been hanging around the government trough for a couple of decades now. Abbott was right to stick the federal cops on her because she was flouting electoral laws and stealing commonwealth money. Taxpayer money.

  14. cohenite

    Get the uniform out of the closet and man up.

    Piss off, I don’t wear a uniform because it covers up my tattoos.

    Wanker and closet islam supporter.

  15. Mark A

    JC
    #2858154, posted on November 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    What do you find wonderful about her?

    Just one thing, she is herself, warts and all.
    Not like the other cheating lying miserable hypocrites.

    But for all that, she is not very bright, cunning enough tho.

  16. JC

    Cronkers = the Skull. 🙂

    Cronkite, the reason you’re triggered is that I’m right and it hurts. Peddling Hanson here, as you’ve done from time to time, makes it evident that you’re a national socialist. Accept it and move on.

  17. Old School Conservative

    The original letter from Philip Heath included this gem:
    I am sad and dismayed by the grief and anger that has been prompted by my willingness to support the letter from Sydney Anglican Schools
    So those who preach kindness and inclusivity for gay teachers are also quick to express anger?
    Supporting a well known Christian ethos arouses grief?

    Yeah right. It’s just another Ross Cameron scenario – tear down civilisation one stone at a time with confected outrage.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    That forced derailment footage of BHP’s ore train is amazing.

    I thought it had been gently taken off the tracks. No. 2 kms of ore train has been destroyed.

  19. cohenite

    Abbott was right to stick the federal cops on her because she was flouting electoral laws and stealing commonwealth money. Taxpayer money.

    Oh sure; that’s why her ‘conviction’ was squashed. And the validity of her party confirmed. And the confiscated money never returned.

    FMD, stick to investing in the Bendigo bank.

  20. entropy

    On nation invariably has stupid policies that only about increasing the loot to ‘her’ people. All her policies just create more tax eaters.
    Look at the their UN policy even, it isn about how we need to junk useless or harmful UN agreements, instead its to give guaranteed monies to anyone negatively impacted by them.
    Why not just get rid of the agreement instead? tell those tax free troughers in the UN to bugger off, not create an extra layer of a new class of troughers.

  21. JC

    Mark A

    I’d put her in the same league as that moronic bint from Tasmania. Lambi and Hanson are about the same wattage.

    If you want authenticity then you have to find someone like Lambi attractive too, no?

  22. Nob

    bundyrum
    #2858145, posted on November 6, 2018 at 8:55 pm
    Funny how Pauline garners attention when she speaks

    Media love to portray anyone right of Pol Pot as whacko extreme far-right. They love PH for looking like this, despite her socialist/protectionist policies.

  23. zyconoclast

    As a raging* feminist, I believe women that should be offered the same opportunities as men. And so I was delighted to learn of the launch of a new dating site, SugarMommaWebsite, to give wealthy women the chance to bribe sexy young things to date them, just like the blokes do!

    * In the sense of “intense” rather than “partying”. But hopefully, with SugarMommaWebsite, that will change!

  24. JC

    She escaped jail because from what I recall, she got out on a technicality, but good to see you think raking off with 500K of taxpayer loot is a forgivable sin, Cronkers. Anything for the party, hey? 🙂

  25. H B Bear

    IT what did you think would happen when you derail a two kilomter train doing 90 kph?

  26. A backlash from who?

    From the atheistic bugmen who send their children to expensive christian schools because they wouldn’t send their children within a million miles of the the degenerate clock work orange institutions their ideology builds.

    This is right over the target.

  27. H B Bear

    The amazing thing about that train crash is that BHP reckon they will have the line back up in about a week. Some big overtime numbers for anyone involved in that exercise.

  28. Old School Conservative

    Phillip Heath certainly has Barker at the forefront of social justice:

    I am strongly advocating for the removal of the exemptions that relate to LGBTQIA+ individuals. As I have expressed before, I find these exemptions deeply troubling and completely outdated

    Not only advocating for removal of the exemptions that have protected Christian schools for a long time, but also right up to date with the latest descriptor of Lesbian, Gay, Bisex, etc etc.

  29. Cpt Seahawks

    Infidel Tiger
    #2858177, posted on November 6, 2018 at 10:01 pm
    That forced derailment footage of BHP’s ore train is amazing.

    I thought it had been gently taken off the tracks. No. 2 kms of ore train has been destroyed.

    I haven’t seen the footage but I still have the opinion that derailed robots can be art. This work sounds impressive.
    Expensive AI art.

  30. H B Bear

    Is that a new Marvel series – Skeletor and Himbo?

  31. JC

    I don’t get the train derailment. The system is supposed to be remotely controlled. How couldn’t they just stop the thing?

  32. candy

    Ms Bishop looks very nice. The frock is modest and pretty on her and she’s not dangling dumb jewellery. The fellow looks pleasantly and conservatively dressed too.

    She could be PM dressed like that!

  33. C.L.

    From the atheistic bugmen who send their children to expensive christian schools because they wouldn’t send their children within a million miles of the the degenerate clock work orange institutions their ideology builds.

    Yup.

  34. Cpt Seahawks

    An artist at work shouldn’t be interrupted.

  35. Mark A

    JC
    #2858180, posted on November 6, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    Mark A

    I’d put her in the same league as that moronic bint from Tasmania. Lambi and Hanson are about the same wattage.

    If you want authenticity then you have to find someone like Lambi attractive too, no?

    I don’t find either of them attractive.
    But you are way out comparing the two and equating them.

    Lamby is a low brow no class, individual who happened to become lucky and with rat cunning took advantage of her luck. Thank you fat Clive.
    I take it you don’t like PH very much, like Trump said, ‘That’s OK’
    But she fought her way by herself every step of the way, and if she had had better skills in picking the right team, none of the mistakes and misfortunes would have happened to her.

    In that she can only blame herself for trusting shonks, who only looked out for themselves.

    Not that I have to, but disclaimer, I’d never vote for them myself, but fair is fair, she has done more for introducing some decent policies by Howard & co. than half the lib-lab back-benchers did in a lifetime troughing it.

    So yes, she deserves her salary.

  36. Dave in Marybrook

    Going on my experience, the remote control was probably still stuck between the cushions on the driver’s seat.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    A queer man died from injecting silicon into his scrotum.

    Oh look, another pic of Julie Bishop.

  38. hzhousewife

    the Australia Card concept is kind of dangerous.

    Tel, by your mobile phone number, you are identified. It’s far, far too late to worry about any Australia Card type ID being a problem, that horse has bolted.

  39. Infidel Tiger

    IT what did you think would happen when you derail a two kilomter train doing 90 kph?

    Not sure.

    Thomas The Tank Engine never prepared me for this level of carnage.

  40. JC

    MarkA

    There’s no such thing as a OneNation party. It’s just Hanson, because almost everyone elected under the ON banner has left the party. Is there anyone left following her? You know, you could even forgive say the odd deserter, but when everyone leaves because of her, then the problem is Hanson and she own’s it 100%. Even more amusing, is that she made it so she can never be dumped from the party against her will. President for life.

  41. C.L.

    Six jockeys were fined today for too much whipping.
    Winning rider Kerrin McEvoy was hit with a $3,000 fine for whipping Cross Counter nine times rather than the limit of five in the final 400. Utterly ridiculous.
    Less sympathy for Hugh Bowman. One KG over weight today.
    Dude. It’s the Melbourne Cup.
    Lay off the icecream.

  42. JC

    There was one decent dude in One Nation .. I forget his name now. He was whip smart and had an excellent bio having done a post grad at Chicago university. He had to leave though because of that citizenship problem. What’s his name?

  43. zyconoclast

    Lawless London: 16-year-old stabbed to death in Tulse Hill

    This means there have been five knife murders in London in just six days. Many of the victims are young boys and men.

  44. Old School Conservative

    Less sympathy for Hugh Bowman. One KG over weight today.

    Plus two other charges from the Cup and bingo! Out for the next 35 meetings.
    Winx may be looking for another jockey.

  45. I’d put her in the same league as that moronic bint from Tasmania. Lambi and Hanson are about the same wattage.

    Crikey, no comparison there.

    Hanson started with nothing & made it to self-employed with Fourteen people on the payroll.
    An achievement so far ahead of most people it isn’t funny.

    Lambie has never managed to hold down a job, not even one on the public teat.

    Spot the difference?

  46. hzhousewife

    Good sushi is hard to find because there are a lot of Chinese masquerading as Japanese and can’t make it properly. The fish isn’t fresh, the prawns are usually second rate Asian farmed and the rice is not Japanese. When you find a good sushi place you should never let it go. I just had ubereats deliver a delicious authentic sushi main. Just putting it out there.

    P’leeze, JC, you are in Melbourne, Australia.

  47. She escaped jail because from what I recall, she got out on a technicality,

    Conviction quashed – that ain’t a technicality.

  48. feelthebern

    You can’t get good sushi in Melb.
    Sydney wins that one hands down.

  49. JC

    Spot the difference?

    Not really. My contractor has about 20 people working for him. I wouldn’t have him near a senate seat.

    Warren Buffet works from an office with perhaps no more than 10 people working for him.

    That litmus test is nonsense, Aristotle.

  50. JC

    Conviction quashed – that ain’t a technicality.

    And the taxpayer funds ($500K?) were returned to the rightful owners, right? Right?

  51. feelthebern

    Pauline has grown very wealthy off the compulsory voting system & tax payers ponying up the dough for her primary votes for the last decade or so.

  52. .

    Snoopy
    #2858086, posted on November 6, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    Those journos are grubs and the “physicists” quoted are evidence-free cowards.

    You seem a bit out of sorts, dot. The boxed trifecta didn’t come through?

    No dude I have a problem with physicists backstabbing others with anonymous criticism of a theory, calling it “pseudoscience” – that McCulloch has 21 peer-reviewed papers on, which the empirical evidence he has modelled on the data fits his theory like a glove; whereas the orthodox paradigm is literally a fudge factor; I also have a problem with one or two bitter no-hopers who will never contribute anything pretending to represent the entirety of an academic discipline.

  53. Contractors = mostly aren’t off the hourly rate.
    Pauline Hanson got herself off the hourly rate/salary.
    Very few manage that unassisted.

    Lambie didn’t even get onto a salary & keep herself there, ever.

    Spot the difference?

  54. hzhousewife

    This means there have been five knife murders in London in just six days. Many of the victims are young boys and men.

    One assumes that many of the perps are also young boys and men? Darwin.

  55. feelthebern

    In Oz, we need to get rid of:
    compulsory voting;
    electoral funding for primary votes once you meet the threshold (whatever that is now).

    If that was done, the mooching would start to subside.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lambie has never managed to hold down a job, not even one on the public teat.

    You speak of someone who served in the Military Police – the “maximum task for minimum minds” and whose job was to wear the reflective gauntlets, and make sure all the trucks in the convey took the same turning?

  57. Perfidious Albino

    Seriously, they couldn’t drop someone onto that train by chopper?

  58. .

    David Oldfield is actually Jacob Rees-Mogg.

  59. feelthebern

    Lambie or Hanson.
    Hard to pick who the bigger moocher is.

  60. And the taxpayer funds ($500K?) were returned to the rightful owners, right? Right?

    Explain why funds should be returned.
    Hint: You don’t vote for PH = not a reason to have funds returned.
    Emotion ain’t reality. You should have learned that long ago.

  61. Old School Conservative

    I’m not a horse racing fan so the rules are new to me.
    Both of the Melbourne Cup 1st and 2nd place jockeys whipped their horse more times than allowed.
    I assume that can’t be too much of a bad act – the jockeys get fined but the result still stands.

  62. hzhousewife

    I used to be a huge fan of compulsory voting, but I’m reconsidering in my old age.
    Only half of US eligible voters will bother to vote this week, but everybody will complain about the result.

  63. .

    Hanson and Ettridge were stitched up by a very unprofessional QLD DPP and Chief Judge of the QLD DC.

    The police reported that her actions were not fraudulent, but the DPP failed to honour their duty and disclose this exculpatory evidence to the Court.

    What crime, if any, is committed if a prosecutor fails to submit exculpatory evidence to a court? What is the maximum punishment?

    I contend that it ought to be a crime. If the prosecution can be dishonest and systemically perjure itself, there is no justice system.

  64. feelthebern

    The pussy who runs BHP now would have wet himself at the idea of a train with out a driver on board.
    If it was Sam Walsh at Rio back in the day, we would have never have heard anything about it.
    They would have had a Mr Fixit get on board somehow & get it sorted.

  65. JC

    Contractors = mostly aren’t off the hourly rate.

    He has 18 people working for him on salary, Aristotle. I know the difference between subbing and full time workers. Do you?

    Pauline Hanson got herself off the hourly rate/salary.

    She sure did. Dipping into the taxpayer pocket beats having to cook chips every night.

    Very few manage that unassisted.

    And your point is?

    Lambie didn’t even get onto a salary & keep herself there, ever.

    I have no idea what you’re trying to convey.

    Spot the difference?

    You’re essentially making a worthless point, Aristotle. It’s nonsense.

    Here, let me throw you an easy ball.

    I think you’ve mentioned here about 387 times that you own a large bed and breakfast and have lots of full time staff. You’d be perhaps one of the least suitable people to hold a senate seat. Nothing personal, Aristotle. It’s just business 🙂

  66. cohenite

    She escaped jail because from what I recall, she got out on a technicality

    You’re just embarrassing yourself; recollections and technicalities; you sound like george brandis. He didn’t like PH either.

  67. feelthebern

    Please don’t mention Brandis here.
    The Cat isn’t that kind of blog.

  68. JC

    You’re just embarrassing yourself; recollections and technicalities; you sound like george brandis. He didn’t like PH either.

    Focus on the real meat, mein fuhrer. No one wants to work with her. They all leave the party. No one will work with her for any great length of time.

  69. max

    Comment from a punter: “1kg is 1.5 lengths at 2000mtrs. At 3200mtrs it could have been 5 lengths. Beaten a length, he should get 6 months.

  70. The point is the one you failed to make.
    That is PH is nothing like Our Jacquie.

    You likened them. Actually they’re more like diametric opposites.

    Case Closed.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I used to be a huge fan of compulsory voting, but I’m reconsidering in my old age.

    It was explained to me – by one of the “true believers” – a good union man, and shop steward – that you had to have compulsory voting, otherwise the Labor Party would never be elected. How I kept a straight face…

  72. JC

    Actually they’re more like diametric opposites.

    One of them is a closet member of Mensa.

  73. feelthebern

    I just checked uber eats.
    There are over 20 places still delivering & its almost 11pm in Sydney town.
    What a mess we are as a society.
    You can get whatever you want delivered to your door.

  74. Focus on the real meat, mein fuhrer. No one wants to work with her. They all leave the party. No one will work with her for any great length of time.

    Yep, that’s logical. No one will work with her = money must be returned to whence it came.
    Don’t waste anyone’s time applying for a job in the finance sector Einstein.

  75. JC

    There are over 20 places still delivering & its almost 11pm in Sydney town.
    What a mess we are as a society.
    You can get whatever you want delivered to your door.

    We went to a Cup party and ate latish. We then went to see a movie came home feeling peckish and my order arrived at 9.30 on the dot. Horrendous service.

  76. cohenite

    They all leave the party. No one will work with her for any great length of time.

    Yet new ones keep turning up. Think of it as being like the stock market head prefect; you know, you get rid of duds and buy new ones. You know all about that don’t you? Trump does the same thing with his associates. You support him don’t you.

  77. Confused Old Misfit

    Head Prefect is being deliberately obtuse.

  78. feelthebern

    Speaking of mensa, that little fellow from one nation in qld was on pm live.
    I was channel surfing & didn’t see what he was on about, but i’ve always found him an interesting chap.
    Wharton alumni.
    Not a summer school MBA either.
    A real one.

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I used to be a huge fan of compulsory voting, but I’m reconsidering in my old age.

    I reconsidered the first time I ever handed out “How To Vote” cards. It was an educational experience, to say the least.

    “I’m here to vote Labor. My dad, and his Dad, all voted Labor, and I’m here to follow on.”

  80. JC

    Yep, that’s logical. No one will work with her = money must be returned to whence it came.
    Don’t waste anyone’s time applying for a job in the finance sector Einstein.

    Can someone help by explaining what Aristotle is trying to say other than the usual canned abuse.

  81. feelthebern

    What did you see JC ?
    Chick flick?

  82. How does this Ube reats safeguard the tucker from during transit, being spat in or pissed on?

  83. JC

    Yet new ones keep turning up. Think of it as being like the stock market head prefect; you know, you get rid of duds and buy new ones. You know all about that don’t you? Trump does the same thing with his associates. You support him don’t you.

    The big difference is Trump fires a lot of people. Hanson’s crew leave because they realize she’s a fucking moron. Leaving of your own accord and being fired/forced to leave aren’t the same thing, mein Fuhrer.

  84. feelthebern

    The paper delivery bags are taped closed with 2 or 3 little sticker things.

  85. feelthebern

    But its a good point.
    You dont know what happens in the kitchen or when it’s in transit.

  86. JC

    feelthebern
    #2858243, posted on November 6, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    What did you see JC ?
    Chick flick?

    Lol. A poignant chick flick. This one. BFF18 The Children Act

    The British film festival is on. Other than the Frogs, the Brits make good movies these days.

  87. JC

    Socrates at the Pub
    #2858244, posted on November 6, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    How does this Ube reats safeguard the tucker from during transit, being spat in or pissed on?

    How do you “safeguard” the same not happening in your kitchen, Aristotle?

  88. cohenite

    Hanson’s crew leave because they realize she’s a fucking moron.

    I explained why burston got the boot and why Anning left. Roberts, soon to be back in parliament and Latham aren’t fools. You’re just being contrary head prefect. Maybe it’s gas from the fucking sushi.

  89. feelthebern

    Seems like hard going JC.
    Emma Thompson hasn’t made a good movie since Henry V.

  90. feelthebern

    That’s his name.
    Roberts.
    The one nation chap with the Wharton degree.
    Interesting chap.
    Dunno what he’s doing hanging out with douche bag politicians.
    Maybe he is one himself.

  91. JC

    Cronkite

    Defend those policies I posted.

    Go!

  92. mh

    Liberals voters fleeing to Pauline led to the ousting of Turdbull and Bitchop.

    Well done Pauline 🎉 🎊 🎈 🍸

  93. How does this Ube reats safeguard the tucker from during transit, being spat in or pissed on?
    How do you “safeguard” the same not happening in your kitchen,

    Lol, that’s easy!
    We fill out a chart (or log) to say we haven’t.
    Foolproof.

  94. JC

    You know, I thought about that point Aristotle brought up about Ubereats some time ago, in reference to GOPers and administration honchos eating in DC restaurants. The staff are likely to spit or do even worse things to their food.

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Busy bees … Julie Bishop MP and her partner, David Panton.

    Now look, when I praised an on-trend hat worn by my friend today, a black flat cap type of thing, with a low pointing black raven’s feather and some milliner’s net draped seductively around the back of it, BY NO MEANS was I referring to something as unflattering and poorly worn as Julie Bishop’s choice, using the same basic ingredients but, like a K-Mart imitation, totally missing the marque.

    I mean, I do not wish her fashion ill, and it pleases me and all observers greatly that she is finally going for sleeves of some sort and coverage of the salt-cellar collarbones, and the dress is very passable, but the hat lacks neatness and pizz-zazz. It is the wrong shape, and too large for that style. Not as cringeworthy at Julia Gillard’s dinner plate at the Royal Wedding, but as that ad says Julie B., you can do better. Oh, and just a hint, Jules, don’t let anyone photograph you again from a height looking down. It makes anyone look like a ninepin, and for you since your dummy spit, that is not a good look.

    Yours in sisterhood, Lizzie B.

  96. JC

    feelthebern
    #2858252, posted on November 6, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    Seems like hard going JC.
    Emma Thompson hasn’t made a good movie since Henry V.

    Even for her age, she has a decent looking face, although her arms are really flabby. Her figure is also pretty decent, so she should do a little weight training to harden up the arms. That or wear long sleeves.

    She’s a fucking crazy old leftwing cow, by the sounds of things.

    The movie was really so, so.

  97. zyconoclast
    #2858258, posted on November 6, 2018 at 11:19 pm
    Wet and wild! Melbourne Cup punters let their hair down and revel in Australia’s biggest race at a very damp Flemington racecourse

    My favourite

    What has been seen cannot be unseen!
    Thank you very bluddee much Zyco 😛

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My favourite

    Noice. A vertical depiction, of the no doubt horizontal position, in which the young lady (?) ended her day out?

  99. Noice. A vertical depiction, of the no doubt horizontal position, in which the young lady (?) ended her day out?

    Close, my money would be on her bending forward over the bullbar, or whatever folks in Melbourne do in lieu.

  100. Monst

    Do you believe in climate change?

    It’s not a matter of belief, JC. It is risk management.

    You diversify your own portfolio because you realise that putting too much cash into one stock or type of asset carries risk. Similarly, the risk exists that one of the bad AGW scenarios comes true, so you ameliorate the risk by investing in measures to offset it. And hey, maybe the green stocks will pay off too!

    Turnbull had a lot of silly ideas, but I think his line that it was “prudent” to take into account the possibility that AGW might be true without having to drink the Kool-Aid is the right one. It’s not a binary issue, you can remain skeptical but it would be poor management to gamble that it isn’t true.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My favourite

    Great grandmother (Two Alpha) was born in the year of Custer’s last stand, She was a little girl when Ned Kelly was hanged. She lived to watch the moon landings. She believed a true lady should waltz well, obey her husband in all things, keep a good table, and never reveal her ankles in public. (She achieved eternal fame, in this family by hitting a would be burglar, over the head, with a kettle of boiling water, in her late seventies.) I would have welcomed her observations on the matter of this young lady.

  102. mh

    Turnbull had a lot of silly ideas, but I think his line that it was “prudent” to take into account the possibility that AGW might be true without having to drink the Kool-Aid is the right one. It’s not a binary issue, you can remain skeptical but it would be poor management to gamble that it isn’t true.

    So what difference does Australia’s carbon dioxide emissions make to the temperature of the globe, Monty?

  103. JC

    Monst

    I still have to ask. Do you believe in climate change? 🙂

  104. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Close, my money would be on her bending forward over the bullbar, or whatever folks in Melbourne do in lieu.

    You must see some sights, in the car park, after closing time, that would have made the Emperor Caligula blush?

  105. JC

    mh

    It’s the new leftoid intro to a greeting.

  106. DrBeauGan

    It depends on the probabilities, m0nty. Do you hedge against being raped by ghosts, eaten by Martians or ravished by aardvarks on the way to the shops?

  107. Fat Tony

    monty
    It’s not a binary issue, you can remain skeptical but it would be poor management to gamble that it isn’t true.

    Gambling doesn’t come into it – there is no empirical evidence that man-made emissions of CO2 are causing catastrophic global warming – it only exists in “models”.

    It’s extremely poor management to de-industrialise the West “just in case”.

    monty – it’s a scam that certain people are making fortunes from. Nothing more.

  108. zyconoclast

    Is Catholic clergy sex abuse related to homosexual priests?

    D. Paul Sullins The Catholic University of America The Ruth Institute (43 pages)

    On the question of clergy homosexuality, the data show that more homosexual men in the
    priesthood was correlated with more overall abuse and more boys abused compared to girls. The
    association of these trends was extremely strong, at above .9 correlation.

    The rise of seminary homosexual subcultures accounted for about half of the incidence of abuse, but none of the preference for male victims, suggesting that the abuse of male victims was perpetrated by
    homosexual abusers, who were encouraged to abuse more than they otherwise may have done by
    the presence or activity of the subcultures. After accounting for the influence of seminary
    subcultures, an increase of the concentration of homosexual men by a factor of two relative to
    that of the general population approximately doubled the incidence of abuse.

    Solutions to the ongoing problem of Catholic priest sex abuse are elusive and difficult.
    Recent experience calls into question whether the current understanding of the nature of the
    abuse and how to reduce it is accurate or sufficient. This analysis suggests that, as the Church
    and its leaders search for better interventions and strategies to address this recurrent problem, a
    good place to begin might be by acknowledging the recent increase of abuse amid growing
    complacency, and the very strong probability that the past surge and present incidence of abuse
    is a product, at least in part, of the past surge and present concentration of homosexual men in
    the Catholic priesthood.

  109. Entropy

    Similarly, the risk exists that one of the bad AGW scenarios comes true, so you ameliorate the risk by investing in measures to offset it.

    Unless of course Monty, the offset costs exceeds the potential cost of the risk. The justification of the rent seekers is based on a discount rate of zero. Zero percent! Very poor risk management indeed.
    Basically, the cure is worse than the disease.

  110. You must see some sights, in the car park, after closing time, that would have made the Emperor Caligula blush?

    People haven’t driven to the pub since Ronald Reagan was president.
    The nanny state takes the driving licence of anyone who tries that.

    The car park & environs are cleared & the crowd dispersed, asap. (Grandma government makes us do that).
    But nope, don’t really see that sort of thing after closing time.
    That conduct of which you speak usually happens in trading hours, often inside.

    By customers that is. The staff are a different matter.
    Until the Fair Work Act prevented me from charging a bond, the girls used to do all their lovin’ in full view in the back yard, lest the night’s chosen ride land her with the bill for a smashed up room (the blokes used to love smashing the wall mirror, ripping the basin off the wall, or smashing legs off the bed.0

  111. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2858267, posted on November 6, 2018 at 11:34 pm
    Do you believe in climate change?

    It’s not a matter of belief, JC. It is risk management.

    No it’s not.

    Risk management applies to known risks, that we know for certain, that did happen in the past and will happen in the future.
    We insure against them. Like flood fire or one stock dropping etc.

    AGW and associated theories are just that, theories.
    To ruin an economy, destroy jobs and industries, spend billions of $ under the guise of the ‘precautionary principle’ based on something less than tangible is criminal.

    Follow the money Monty, if nothing else will convince you.

  112. calli

    On the Barker issue. I mentioned the other night that it wasn’t just allumni “backlash” as reported in the MSM. They were getting death threats.

    My view – it should have been a police matter. Perhaps it was, but impossible to track down the culprits. Everyone knows what the ACL bombing was all about. These are schools with certain vulnerabilities.

    I don’t think much of Heath backing down, but don’t be too quick to judge. Not everything the MSM reports is the whole truth.

  113. calli

    From the atheistic bugmen who send their children to expensive christian schools because they wouldn’t send their children within a million miles of the the degenerate clock work orange institutions their ideology builds.

    This was pretty much what I said to the distressed person I spoke to the other night. Not all the schools will capitulate to what is essentially a protection racket “nice school you’ve got there. Shame if anything happened to it”.

    Frankly, I’m worried for the hold outs. I already have grandchildren going to school behind barbed wire.

  114. .

    It’s not a matter of belief, JC. It is risk management.

    Release the nuclear powered hounds.

    Until we see nukes, the whole thing is either a scam for spivs, tacit redistribution or just business bashing/white man’s misplaced guilt.

  115. C.L.

    My favourite

    I don’t think Fairy Floss Girl (2016 Melbourne Cup) has yet been topped.

  116. Zyconoclast

    ‘We’re absolutely thrilled’: Southern white rhino born at SA zoo

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/we-re-absolutely-thrilled-southern-white-rhino-born-at-sa-zoo

    If only as much ‘thrill’ and effort was given into getting white babies getting born.

  117. AGW and associated theories are just that, theories.
    To ruin an economy, destroy jobs and industries, spend billions of $ under the guise of the ‘precautionary principle’ based on something less than tangible is criminal.

    No one is ruining any economies, don’t be a frightbat.

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry. You might as well advocate for the return of horse and buggies for the morning commute from Campbelltown to Pyrmont.

    Don’t get sucked in by the zombie coal lobby. Hard to do on this site, I know.

  118. C.L.

    Two to go.

    I love this line of bullshit in that article:

    Farrell and the others charged were later acquitted of the killings by a Supreme Court jury.

    Senior police were later to stress it was a finding that they were not guilty, rather than a verdict of innocence.

    There is no “verdict of innocence.”
    Shocking, cowardly, revolting crime.

    IMO, Graeme Jensen was indeed earlier murdered by police. That’s how it started.

  119. calli

    So glad I avoid horse racing like the plague. Hats on me resemble peas on pumpkins. And heels of any height over 1” are out. Bare-headed and ballet flats – I don’t think so.

    Which reminds me…as I waited for the paddlewheeler, I had an hour to kill. So we stopped in a bar/cafe near the dock. A gaggle of 18yo AA girls spent the entire time taking selfies at the table next door. And these weren’t any old selfies – they were Kardashian style. The Beloved was bemused “what the hell are they doing.?” I edumacated him on the concept of Instagram “followers” and corporate sponsorship. I had to use crayons, so foreign was it to his idea of earning a living. Eventually he understood.

    So he photobombed them. 😀

  120. JC

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry.

    Markets determine what is and isn’t superseded, you fat boiled lobster. You don’t and neither does Turnbull’s semi-retarded son.

  121. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2858292, posted on November 7, 2018 at 12:27 am
    Don’t get sucked in by the zombie coal lobby. Hard to do on this site, I know.

    I don’t like to boast about my credentials, but I’m more than qualified to make up my mind about scientific/engineering matters.

    Are you?

  122. Markets determine what is and isn’t superseded

    Coal is being superseded in favour of cheaper solar. Simples.

    If you don’t understand that coal is dead, you don’t understand the economics of solar.

  123. Nob

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry. You might as well advocate for the return of horse and buggies for the morning commute from Campbelltown to Pyrmont.

    Pretty much what anti-coal activists are promoting. They want more electric rail but less electricity.

    “Coal lobby” is an activists’ fantasy. People want affordable, reliable power.
    Wind turbines do not provide this. Energy companies want to make money – they don’t care if it comes from coal or government certificates

  124. I don’t like to boast about my credentials, but I’m more than qualified to make up my mind about scientific/engineering matters.

    Employed by the coal industry, are you Mark A?

  125. Nob

    cheaper solar. Simples.

    Jeezus. You would have to be.

    Disconnect now.

  126. Nob

    monty, I hope for your sake that your next medical emergency isn’t served by a solar powered ambulance taking you to a wind-powered hospital.

  127. Nob

    m0nty
    #2858299, posted on November 7, 2018 at 12:37 am
    I don’t like to boast about my credentials, but I’m more than qualified to make up my mind about scientific/engineering matters.

    Employed by the coal industry, are you Mark A?

    If he was, that would make him better informed than you.

  128. Mark A

    That was a cheap shot, Monty.
    Worthy of you.
    No I’m not, not directly, second cousin twice removed.

  129. Fat Tony

    monty, monty, monty

    you do realise that your kid(s) are going to grow up in a 3rd world country because of this CAGW scam and other leftist lunacies.

    Your phobia about coal – is it because burning coal releases back into the atmosphere the CO2 that was tied up in the coal millions of years ago?

  130. JC

    Coal is being superseded in favour of cheaper solar. Simples.

    If you don’t understand that coal is dead, you don’t understand the economics of solar.

    Oh great then, we’re all in favor of superior technology that makes things cheaper. Power prices are going up though and solar is still on subsidy life support. Why?

    Please avoid giving standard lesbianic answers.

  131. Fat Tony

    monty
    If you don’t understand that coal is dead, you don’t understand the economics of solar.

    monty – coal is solar energy stored millions of years ago for us to convert back into useful energy.

  132. JC

    I received this text today.

    Hey! It’s Em from greens.org.au. It looks like you aren’t enrolled to vote in P…… for the election. I can help if you’d like? Deadline is later today 🙂

    Even seeing their signs makes see red.

    Hi, I’d rather get pancreatic cancer than vote for u guys but thanks anyway 🙂

    At least she was nice about it.

    Lets hope that doesn’t happen! Have a nice day!

  133. No I’m not, not directly, second cousin twice removed.

    Right then, so you are, indirectly. Good to know.

  134. JC

    Monst.

    Do you believe in climate change?

  135. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2858308, posted on November 7, 2018 at 12:58 am

    The equipment we design are also used in the salt mines in the US and Canada, in the diamond mines in SA.

    Are they also evil?

  136. None

    If Labor can’t stop its fuckwitted Dan Andrews from signing Victoria over to the Chinese they need to be taken out and shot before we shoot Andrews for treason.

  137. Mark A

    Something Off topic, (early yet) inside of a WWII sub.
    Valve manufacturers would be salivating at the sight of this.

  138. Just Interested

    I thought Zanetti has nailed it again, as he usually does.

    I hope someone who cares for him fair dinkum tells Slow Mo that ‘struth, cobber, don’t have an instant opinion on everything that needs to be reversed in 24 hours’. Think gay students in schools, Aboriginal respect public holidays, embassies in Jerusalem…….

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zanetti for me this morning. More effective than Rowe, who is probably correct though…

    Speaking of elections wonder of wonders there’s a good stage-setting article at news.com.au today:

    ‘Complete meltdown’: What will happen if Donald Trump shocks in the midterms

    What if Mr Trump’s Republicans do surprisingly well, and the Democrats fall short of taking back the House?

    The Daily Beast has examined that “unthinkable” scenario in some depth. It reports that failure in the midterms could plunge the Democrats into an “utter and complete psychological meltdown”.

    “After all this work, all these volunteers, it would be absolutely shattering,” Democratic strategist Paul Begala told the website.

    It sounds pretty correct to me.

    The headline is a little misdirecting in that the meltdown would be of the Dems and only the Dems, and I didn’t bother with the video so I have no idea what it’s like, but the article is a good read and very fair. Good to see someone at news.co.au gets the idea that straight unslanted reporting is the way to go.

    As for the poll numbers Stiglich nails it with his cartoon. They’re useless.

  140. Mother Lode

    Noice. A vertical depiction, of the no doubt horizontal position, in which the young lady (?) ended her day out?

    Perhaps not quite horizontal. I am sure she has the experience not to completely lie back on a car bonnet.

  141. egg_

    the economics of solar.

    $ub$edie$$$$$$$$$…?

  142. egg_

    Something Off topic, (early yet) inside of a WWII sub.
    Valve manufacturers would be salivating at the sight of this.

    “Nicht der hinten unten nummer drei valve – der unten hinten nummer drei valve, dummkopf!”

  143. Baldrick

    Still a while yet for results. Polls close on the following times today (Australian Eastern Daylight Time):

    10:00am AEDT (6:00pm Washington DC): Indiana, Kentucky
    11:00am AEDT (7:00pm Washington DC): South Carolina; Florida; Virginia; New Hampshire; Vermont; Georgia (except Atlanta where polls close an hour later)
    11:30am AEDT (7:30pm Washington DC): West Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina
    12 midday AEDT (8:00pm Washington DC): Alabama; Texas; Connecticut; Massachusetts; Delaware; Illinois; Maine; Maryland; Mississippi; Missouri; New Jersey; Oklahoma; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; Tennessee; Kansas; Michigan
    12:30pm AEDT (8:30pm Washington DC): Arkansas
    1:00pm AEDT (9:00pm Washington DC): Arizona; Colorado; Louisiana; Minnesota; Nebraska; New Mexico; New York; South Dakota; North Dakota; Wisconsin; Wyoming; Washington
    2:00pm AEDT (10:00pm Washington DC): Iowa; Montana; Nevada; Utah; Idaho
    3:00pm AEDT (11:00pm November 6, Washington DC): Hawaii; Oregon; California
    4:00pm AEDT (12 midnight November 7, Washington DC) Alaska

  144. Mark A

    egg_
    #2858346, posted on November 7, 2018 at 7:04 am

    Something Off topic, (early yet) inside of a WWII sub.
    Valve manufacturers would be salivating at the sight of this.

    “Nicht der hinten unten nummer drei valve – der unten hinten nummer drei valve, dummkopf!”

    Not quite, but nearly there.
    You know, that they managed to sink a sub by operating the toilet valves in the wrong sequence?

  145. 2dogs

    Coal is being superseded in favour of cheaper solar. Simples.

    If you don’t understand that coal is dead, you don’t understand the economics of solar.

    If solar were genuinely cheaper, it would not need subsidies.

    I understand the economics of solar – and I am fully solar at home – but I am in no doubt that I have been fully incentivised into it.

  146. Tintarella di Luna

    I would have welcomed her observations on the matter of this young lady.

    Zulu I think that’s a bit of overreach to call her a ‘lady’ perhaps you’re missing a ‘d’ — here you go ‘laddy’ but even then it might be defamatory of lads.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    Something Off topic, (early yet) inside of a WWII sub.

    Interesting article today:

    Vlad’s aircraft carrier (6 Nov)

    We have a new candidate for world’s unluckiest ship – Russia’s Admiral Kuznetsov.

    Certainly if a ship can be jinxed this looks to be a jinxed ship.

  148. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1227

    No one is ruining any economies, don’t be a frightbat.

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry.

    What flavour Kool-Aid was that.

    Only a technically ignorant lackey of the fascist left establishment could write that with a straight face.

    The only thing that might supercede coal is nuclear, which is anathema to the fascist left.

  149. egg_

    Only a technically ignorant lackey of the fascist left establishment could write that with a straight face.

    Does e.g. Ellen Fanning (Teh Dumb) actually believe this BS and then have a dummy spit when SA is blacked out?

  150. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2858353, posted on November 7, 2018 at 7:21 am

    m0nty at 1227

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry.

    Don’t write off coal, it can also be used as fuel for ICEs.
    Many links, but this is at his level.

  151. Cactus

    Wine deal: Wynns Black Label 2010 vintage Cab Sav for $24/bttle. I think this is exceptional value, great wine, pedigree and vintage. It has a bit of age – which they have done for you but I dare so could still go for many more years. Stock up for Christmas and thank me later.

    You need to be a member of Dan Murphy’s to get this

    https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_744044/wynns-black-label-cabernet-sauvignon-2010

  152. Death Giraffe

    What flavour Kool-Aid was that.

    ..
    Elderflower.

  153. Mother Lode

    My local bottle-o has a Pinot Noir called The Boweries for $25, which is below my customary minimum.

    I only discovered it because the woman working there swore by it.

    A light style Pinot with plenty of fruit without being sweet, and no pretenses of being a grand burgundy.

    That is my recommendation.

  154. cohenite

    No one is ruining any economies, don’t be a frightbat.

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry. You might as well advocate for the return of horse and buggies for the morning commute from Campbelltown to Pyrmont.

    Don’t get sucked in by the zombie coal lobby. Hard to do on this site, I know.

    The troll vomits the usual shit. Renewables don’t work, alarmism is crap and the precautionary principle is all that alarmism has and Pascal would be turning in his grave; it’s a scam, a play on the goodwill of people, to save the world and control people through guilt, typical leftie ploys. Alarmism is a ploy to infiltrate Western economies by the commies reinvented as environmentalists. They have released the loons, crony capitalists, corrupted the institutions, particularly education and don’t give a fuck.

    Coal works and is working better. Nuclear is the gold standard.

    I really don’t know why you guys humour this arsehole troll.

  155. Boambee John

    Mark A at 0732

    Thanks, saw the reference to that in an earlier thread. I was realky only commenting on the electric power aspect, as, I assume, was m0nty.

    Someone up thread referred to CAGW as a theory. I think that flatters it. It might reach the level of an hypothesis, but the lack of supporting empirical data even after some 30 years of searching suggests it has not yet reached the status of a theory.

  156. It might reach the level of an hypothesis…

    Nope. It is not falsifiable.

    If it’s hot/dry it is caused by CAGW. If it’s cold/wet it’s caused by CAGW.

  157. Cactus

    What is best website to track the midterm results as they come in?

  158. Mark A

    Boambee John
    #2858366, posted on November 7, 2018 at 8:02 am

    Mark A at 0732

    Thanks, saw the reference to that in an earlier thread. I was realky only commenting on the electric power aspect, as, I assume, was m0nty.

    Yeah I know, I thought I refresh it for him, in case he missed it.
    And because I think diesels are next best industrial engines after steam.
    Steam engines are alive, slow RPM marine diesels, nearly so.
    Just my opinion.

  159. lotocoti

    mØnty seems unusually cranky on this day of days, when the blue wave sweeps the illegal fascist junta from power.

  160. feelthebern

    What is best website to track the midterm results as they come in?

    The Cat of course.
    Apart from a fellow called monty.
    For a portly fellow, he gets a lot of US political things wrong.

  161. feelthebern

    Monty is as agitated as an AFL player coming down off a 3 day ice binge.

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Ramirez is good for getting the vote out. Vote now.
    But they are all good today, Tom.

  163. Eyrie

    AGW is a mere conjecture, doesn’t make the grade for hypothesis or theory.

  164. Snoopy

    Monty should be full of good cheer given his socialist ‘It’ girl, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, appears a lock for a House seat.

  165. We’re all gunna fry!

    Hades awaits. (For non-believers)

  166. Leo G

    Coal deserves to die, it’s a superseded industry.

    Does that mean the trade unions have divested their historical ownership of many Australian coal mines?

  167. Bushkid

    Wet and wild! Melbourne Cup punters let their hair down and revel in Australia’s biggest race at a very damp Flemington racecourse

    Geez, Zyco, what a bunch! The most sober looking ones were the four ladies in gumboots, at least they had sensible footwear! The rest ought to be shown their photos every day for the rest of their booze-sodden lives. Pathetic!

  168. Bushkid

    Ramirez is the one for today. Thank you Tom.

  169. mh

    Election Day’s Top Trending Google Search: ‘Where to Vote’ in Spanish (Breitbart)

    That’s a good sign for the Dems, unfortunately.

  170. Entropy

    It’s a curious thing, how the precautionary principle only ever works one way.

    Wielded as a rhetorical weapon by risk management illiterates, their primal fears outweigh rational assessment of the costs of action vs the costs of possible consequences.

  171. Tel

    Abbott was right to stick the federal cops on her because she was flouting electoral laws and stealing commonwealth money. Taxpayer money.

    Much worse than that.

    She was taking the money that the other troughers figured was their trough money to snout in.

    They all have a strong belief in property rights … when they believe the property belongs to them!

  172. SKY news Gilbert & Jayes bring in Tom Switzer to give his views on the US mid terms.
    Starts off rationally and calmly but then raises the voice, goes red in the face and goes full crazy on Trump.
    Tom put his shirt on Cliffs of Moher yesterday.

  173. “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

    ― Winston S. Churchill

  174. mh

    #notoktobewhite

    Sinead O’Connor upsets Muslims by saying she won’t associate with white people: ‘They are disgusting’

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/sinead-oconnor-upsets-muslims-by-saying-she-wont-associate-with-white-people-they-are-disgusting

  175. mh

    Tom Switzer is an ABC broadcaster and globalist.

  176. Old School Conservative

    Of course the artist formerly known as Sinead O’Connor has upset some Muslims.
    She has let the cat out of the bag.

  177. C.L.

    New York Times pre-poll editorial: Trump = Hitler.

  178. A Lurker

    News just in…

    “Mark Latham has joined One Nation. Mark will be the party’s New South Wales state leader and will be running for the NSW legislative council at the next state election.”

    Via Pauline Hanson statement on Facebook.

  179. 1. Sinead is white.
    2. ‘Y0u cannot trust white people’.
    3. You cannot trust Sinead.

    You have been warned.

  180. John Comnenus

    Mid term results should start trickling in in about 45 minutes. I am tipping a big senate win for Trump (I mean the GOP) + at least 4, and hold the house with only – about 10.

    We will see how we go.

  181. C’mon folks.
    Sinead has different views from your own, that’s all.
    Rae told us so.

  182. Myrddin Seren

    U.S. Lawyer and punter Robert Barnes flies to London to lay £100,000 bet with Ladbroke’s on GoP to retain control of the House, at about 3/2.

    The publicity got Bloomberg’s attention. See embedded link in the Ladbroke’s Tweet for more background.

    Barnes runs an interesting Twitter feed. Could be a link to keep an eye on today and tomorrow.

  183. stackja

    Hour-by-hour: How to watch the biggest races of the night
    Starting at 6pm ET and running til 1am ET, HERE is a poll-closing and key race guide to some of the biggest (statewide) contests across the country.

    townhall.com

  184. stackja

    NOV 06, 2018 5:18 PM EST | TIMOTHY MEADS
    Triggered by the New York Times Election Needle? Liberals are.
    Life must be miserable as a liberal.
    Raw Story

    @RawStory
    People complain of PTSD after New York Times brings back its infamous election prediction needle https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/people-complain-ptsd-new-york-times-brings-back-infamous-election-prediction-needle/
    3:47 AM – Nov 7, 2018

    townhall.com

  185. £100,000 bet with Ladbroke’s on GoP to retain control of the House, at about 3/2.

    Can a bookie say the bet is null and void if vote rigging is proven?

  186. stackja

    Here are a few of the times after which certain key statewide races will be eligible for calls, not to mention a slew of important House contests (all Eastern Time):

    6pm – Parts of Kentucky and Indiana, including the aforementioned KY-06 contest.

    7pm – Indiana Senate, Georgia Governor.

    7:30pm – Ohio Governor, West Virginia Senate.

    8pm – Connecticut Governor, Florida Senate and Governor, Mississippi Senate (runoff likely), Missouri Senate, New Hampshire Governor, New Jersey Senate, Tennessee Senate.

    9pm – Arizona Senate, Michigan Senate, North Dakota Senate, Wisconsin Governor, Kansas Governor, Texas Senate.

    10pm – Iowa Governor, Montana Senate, Nevada Senate and Governor.

    11pm – All California races.

    1am – Alaska Governor and House (at large).

    townhall.com

  187. Armadillo

    Can a bookie say the bet is null and void if vote rigging is proven?

    Fine Cotton might be an Australian example. However, it was well before online betting. I paid a couple of bets out before the “hold all tickets” call was announced. Good luck getting money back from people you haven’t the slightest idea who they are. The bloke who laid the biggest bet by far, simply walked off the track without even attempting to collect. Cops pulled him over on his way back to Sydney and nabbed him.

  188. calli

    Just got back from a day tour around plantations and swamp.

    Absolutely nothing said about the elections from our fellow travellers – California and Ohio. The Beloved asked, but they wouldn’t be drawn.

    Dunno what it means. Perhaps they had better manners than he.

  189. Armadillo

    Fine Cotton was actually quite profitable. I got to keep the bet. No-one asked for it back.

  190. Top Ender

    Sinead displays her strange new understanding of the world:

    She continued her tirade later into the day commenting on Catholicism, Donald Trump and a great many other topics on her Twitter.

  191. Armadillo

    Dedicated Cat thread for US Election results is here….

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/11/06/this-time-tomorrow-the-election-results-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-2858409

    One handy location to peruse comments….

  192. Top Ender

    The ABC has become a “powder keg”, with journalists across the country reporting unprecedented levels of anger over the revelation the public broadcaster’s 157 executives had rewarded themselves with $2 million in bonuses.

    The ABC house committee — the journalists’ union representatives — will hold an urgent meeting today to consider possible industrial action over what it says is poor management.

    Katelin McInerney, the Sydney house committee representative for the Media Arts and Entertainment Alliance, said workers were suffering daily from ­“chronic staff shortages” following a series of redundancy programs.

    “Whole programs and news bulletins are being abandoned daily because we don’t have enough staff to fill the shifts,” Ms McInerney said. “Our message is that staff deserve better leadership than executives giving themselves generous bonuses when news and content staff are struggling to fill shifts.”

    Another house committee member, who didn’t want to be named, said the payment of ­bonuses was “outrageous”.

    “The idea that you need to be paying corporate-style bonuses is just bizarre,” the house member said. “Those bonuses could have gone to paying for desperately needed staff. But of course it’s probably their reward for getting rid of journos.”

    Oz

  193. calli

    The ABC has become a “powder keg”

    Anyone got a match?

  194. calli

    Whole programs and news bulletins are being abandoned daily because we don’t have enough staff to fill the shifts

    They’re busy in the Propaganda Wing. Go flush ‘em out, Katelin, and put them onto some real journalism work.

  195. feelthebern

    Remember Cats, this is the place for all rumour & unsubstantiated stories.
    No matter how wild or crazy it is, post it immediately.
    Remember, though, you can’t say n*ts at the Cat anymore.

  196. calli

    I saw many squirrels today.

    I believe they are registered to vote.

  197. feelthebern

    Dolphins too Calli.
    The dolphin vote could decide this thing.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    The ABC has become a “powder keg”

    Anyone got a match?

    My keyboard nearly ruined there with snorted coffee spill, Calli.
    I recall too that Areff got in strife at from the ABC for similar musings.
    Luckily we are insignificant squibs who simply enjoy a good quip on their metaphor.
    After all, they said it, not us. 😀

  199. Armadillo

    Sinc keeps site bombing the joint with new election threads.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/11/07/us-mid-term-forum-2018/

  200. John Constantine

    KGN kogan to launch what they aim to be australias ultra lowest cost superannuation fund.

    The union super funds were set up as a weapon of the left and must be landmined before shortens crony superfvriends take over.

  201. John Constantine

    How many people does it take to push the button that runs getup and activist media releases as their abc news bulletins anyway?.

    Like how many abc staffers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?.

  202. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I saw many squirrels today.

    I believe they are registered to vote.

    they brought nuts didn’t they

  203. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    put them onto some real journalism work.

    Start with the Shipping News. Used to be the most boring job in journalism. Defunct now.

    Talking of things old-fashioned, we watched that 90’s movie ‘Pleasantville’ the other night. A young disenchanted kid in love with old Sit Coms and his sassy sister get transported into a 1958 situation comedy. Some winning acting moments there, as the Norman Rockwell Saturday Evening Post TV repairman sets the folksy mood for all of the other characters, young and old alike.

    I liked especially the fire department that only knew how to rescue little kitties from trees, and were dang-blast amazed to see a fire and watch how a fire hose worked. The underside of the Good Old Boys local community politics was brought out, and the message was about moving on with the times. In retrospect now, the politics of the 90’s that rejected outright all of the traditional securities and responsibilities of the fifties along with its emotional blandness now seem rather dated themselves. For those 1950’s dresses were in such beautiful colours when the metaphor of ‘colouring up’ started to improve people’s lives. Each time brings its own perspective to times past. The Good Lord alone knows what our great-grandchildren will make of ours.

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    ‘Pleasantville’ was in the genre of ‘The Stepford Wives’ and ‘Groundhog Day’ which seemed to be getting quite a run in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Hairy had seen it before, years ago, on one of his business flights. It was new to me.

  205. Roger

    “The idea that you need to be paying corporate-style bonuses is just bizarre,” the house member said.

    She may have a point. Wasn’t there a massive operational budget shortfall at the ABC last tear, even while Guthrie was awarded a pay rise, taking her to c.$1m?

    A very modest recovery in the first half of this calendar year doesn’t warrant bonuses to already well paid executives.

  206. calli

    Don’t dis Pleasantville.

    I live there.

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    ‘American Beauty’ and ‘The Ice Storm’ were two other movies around that time that were dismissive of American suburban values, savagely in these two, where nostalgia took a back seat. The TV Series ‘Mad Men’, ranging 2007 to 2015, was similar in its mix of nostalgia laced with bitter social critique.

  208. C.L.

    Fine Cotton was actually quite profitable. I got to keep the bet. No-one asked for it back.

    What track was this? The Farm?

  209. C.L.

    American Beauty – LOL.
    Kevin Spacey fixated on a cheerleader hottie.
    Yeah right.

  210. C.L.

    Whenever the charges of vote-rigging start, it’s usually a sign the GOP has lost.
    It’s the Republican version of Wussia.
    Yes, there are always anomalies but there aren’t hundreds of thousands of votes being rigged.
    That’s just being silly.

  211. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Don’t dis Pleasantville.

    I live there.

    So do I, now, Calli. In Vaucluse.
    In over-populated and bulging at the seams Sydney, today only the wealthy can afford the luxury of nostalgia, in classic old homes with tended gardens away from the madding crowds. I take my walks locally to take it all in, and visit a lost world. There were hints of it, a solid community life, even in Housing Commission, when I grew up, but it was soon overtaken there by expansion and the deprivations of drugs and welfare squalor.

    Someone from there said to me just the other day you wouldn’t recognise St. Mary’s now, Lizzie. It’s gone bad, really bad. I must wander through the old places, St. Mary’s, Mt. Druitt and Colyton again someday, even venture further into Rooty Hill. Did it all once ten years ago with Hairy, by way of explanation. Hate to think they would be worse now. They were pretty depressing then, compared to my memories of Aussie life there back in the day. But perhaps that’s simply a case of my nostalgia isn’t what it used to be. 🙂

  212. Zyconoclast

    Suburbicon. Another anti-American, Anti-white movie

    Suburbicon is a peaceful, idyllic, suburban community with affordable homes and manicured lawns — the perfect place to raise a family, and in the summer of 1959, the Lodge family is doing just that. But the tranquil surface masks a disturbing reality, as husband and father Gardner Lodge must navigate the town’s dark underbelly of betrayal, deceit and violence.

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0491175/

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Whenever the charges of vote-rigging start, it’s usually a sign the GOP has lost.

    Oh, I hope that’s not the case for Trump.
    Last hope for some policy good sense.

  214. Nob

    Mark A
    #2858310, posted on November 7, 2018 at 1:07 am
    m0nty
    #2858308, posted on November 7, 2018 at 12:58 am

    The equipment we design are also used in the salt mines in the US and Canada, in the diamond mines in SA.

    Are they also evil?

    All mining is evil.

    Except to extract materials for solar panels.
    And wind turbines.
    And refugee boats.
    And planes.

  215. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Suburbicon. Another anti-American, Anti-white movie

    Yes. By these movies you can historically trace the rot setting in, reflecting America badly to itself, and encouraging the excesses of the Democrats in dissing all that America once stood for, and that Trump fought to recognise in his winning slogan: MAGA. We need a new set of film-makers to bring this reality to light.

  216. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    All mining is evil.

    Except to extract materials for solar panels.
    And wind turbines.
    And refugee boats.
    And planes.

    And for computers and mobile phones, for lefties’ Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
    And voting machines to be rigged?

  217. Roger

    And for computers and mobile phones, for lefties’ Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.

    And TVs on which to watch ABC!

  218. Roger

    Aboriginal-father-launches-campaign-act-Father-Christmas-advert-said-Caucasian.

    Good luck to him; he’s looking for honest work.

    The original St. Nick was no Anglo-Saxon, after all.

  219. Leo G

    Like how many abc staffers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?.

    It doesn’t matter. ABC staffers will never see the light.

  220. C.L.

    Aboriginal man launches campaign to be allowed to play Santa after advert said only ‘Caucasian’ men should apply

    So it’s OK for an Aborigine to culturally appropriate white customs?
    Does that mean I can get a job as a Welcome To Country smoke shaman?

  221. Roger

    Does that mean I can get a job as a Welcome To Country smoke shaman?

    Many whites already do.

  222. H B Bear

    Like how many abc staffers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?.

    You can guarantee that no-one at the staff co-op is allowed to change a light bulb. They must call in an ETU affiliated contractor.

  223. Top Ender

    how many abc staffers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Do your bit everywhere Cats, to upset the PC status quo.

    Change the lightglobes at your work.

    You know you want to.

  224. Snoopy

    Dear Snoopy,

    I NEED YOUR HELP – PLEASE CLICK HERE TO DONATE

    Tomorrow will be a critical day.

    The New South Wales District Court will hear argument as to whether Gary Burns’ defamation action against me is an abuse of process.

    I believe I have a very strong case. I am just not sure that the system works anymore.

    If I win, I hope it will be the victory that leads to the end of the systemic attack on me and my family. But even if I do, I can’t be sure. I’ve won unanimously in the High Court of Australia yet the assault on us continues stronger than ever.

    If I lose, it will be a doorway to disaster. Burns has stated that he is intent on litigating me into the ground.

    To harass me. To humiliate me. To bankrupt me. To destroy me.

    He has stated that he wants to take my assets. He has stated that he does not care if he forces my wife and children into the gutter.

    He can no longer do the former. But he can still do the latter.

    A loss will give him and other activists a green light to ramp up their attacks.

    In the last six years I have been subjected to more than 80 taxpayer-funded investigations, inquiries and court cases about my views on marriage, family and morality.

    That really is quite incredible.

    It has also taken a toll.

    The apparatus of state is being mercilessly geared up to silence and destroy those prepared to express any support for a concept of natural law and natural family.

    I am just an early target. If I am destroyed there will no doubt be others thrust down this torturous path. When they start working on ‘high profile’ targets – those who have refused to get involved in these matters – any case law generated against me will be used to tear them down.

    But we are not there yet. And we may never reach that point if we continue to battle and win.

    The reality, at the moment, is that I have won every battle bar one. And not a single specific complaint against me has been substantiated.

    The Full Court of the Federal Court did rule against me in 2017, overturning an earlier judgement by the Federal Court in my favour.

    It found that I had ‘disobeyed’ orders – a military offence – by expressing views about the morality of homosexuality as a private citizen. It found this despite no specific charges being laid against me. No witnesses were called. No evidence was presented to support the case. I was not given a chance to defend myself because I had no concrete allegations to respond to.

    The court itself found that I received no order that I could be compelled by the Army to obey.

    And this ruling was made despite the fact that the Full Court of the Federal Court has no power whatsoever to determine military disciplinary offences.

    Even the former Chief of Defence Force admitted that I had not disobeyed orders. And the system established by law to determine such allegations under the Defence Force Discipline Act cleared me.

    Yet the Full Court of the Federal Court’s ruling was still made.

    It’s akin to being declared guilty of murder even though there is no missing person, motive, murder scene or weapon and despite the fact that the proper criminal court threw the case out as baseless before it even commenced.

    In all the other matters I have successfully defended myself.

    However, I have almost been finished off in the process. Because that process is the punishment.

    I estimate that more than $5 million of taxpayers’ money – your money – has been used in the attempt to destroy me. I have seen some of the bills floating around. It is certain that millions have been spent.

    Twelve months ago more than 40 of the most senior barristers and lawyers in Australia – sent by every state apart from South Australia – gathered in the High Court to argue against me. The cost for those two days alone would be close to $500,000.

    Yet they had been working on that case for approximately six months before the hearing. Some had beavered away on it for a year and a half.

    I am tired. I am frustrated. Truth be told, I am also scared of what may come and what it will mean for my family.

    When the first investigations against me began in early 2013 my wife and I owned two houses.

    When I get my next legal bill we will have nothing left at all.

    I have had no time to write for my webpage since June. My life is entirely tied up with affidavits and submissions and directions hearings. It is debilitating.

    I also feel abandoned by the major conservative institutions – especially by the hierarchy of my beloved Catholic Church. With a small number of exceptions, none of those who lead these organisations have shown any interest in this fight.

    I think their reputations with the enemies of sanity in this world are too important to them. I hope I am wrong and that the fault lies with me. Maybe I’m imprudently blunt. Maybe I just can’t ‘sell the story’.

    Two things have sustained me.

    Firstly, your generosity and support which I will forever be grateful for. So many of you have sacrificed to assist me, my wife and our children.

    It is not the big conservative institutions that have obtained the victories in this matter. It is individual Australians willing to step up and help.

    The direct legal costs incurred since mid-2014 are now more than $360,000.

    I could not have met these costs without your assistance. Nor could I have managed to run my webpage and feed my family over that time without your generosity.

    Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

    The second is God. He has known about this battle throughout eternity. He has known every frustration I would face and sent me the means necessary to face them. So often I have done so imperfectly.

    Please pray for me that I maintain my faith and hope in God. He will have His victory. I must simply have the courage to play the role He has for me in it.

    As always, I encourage you to pray the prayer for the conversion of Australia:

    O God, who has appointed Mary, Help of Christians; St Francis Xavier, and St Teresa of the Infant Jesus Patrons of Australia; grant that, through their intercession, our brethren outside the Church may receive the light of faith, so that Australia may become one in faith under one shepherd, through Christ our Lord. Amen.
    * Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us.
    * St Francis Xavier, pray for us.
    * St Teresa of the Infant Jesus, pray for us.

    I am not sure if any decision will be made tomorrow but I will let you know the results when they are handed down.

    I will return to Sydney next Tuesday as well.

    A directions hearing will be held in my matter against the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board, the New South Wales Civil and Administrative Tribunal, the New South Wales Local Court and Gary Burns. I am seeking orders, in line with the ruling of the High Court of Australia earlier this year, prohibiting them from continuing to process anti-discrimination complaints against me.

    Kind regards

    signed: Bernard Gaynor

  225. Snoopy

    I just posted an email from Bernard Gaynor that triggered the spaminator. God knows why.

  226. Top Ender

    SEEK posted an ad online for Santas, working in shopping centres in Adelaide, but specified that applicants had to be ‘Caucasian mature age men.’

    You can see the problem here quite easily.

    It says: “mature age men”.

    Therefore if I am 18 and apply and don’t get it, then Mr Employer gets it.

    If I am Trans and don’t get it, then Mr Employer gets it.

    And so on. A wonderful world of opportunity opens up.

  227. Entropy

    Zyconoclast
    #2858512, posted on November 7, 2018 at 10:59 am
    Suburbicon. Another anti-American, Anti-white movie

    Suburbicon is a peaceful, idyllic, suburban community with affordable homes and manicured lawns — the perfect place to raise a family, and in the summer of 1959, the Lodge family is doing just that. But the tranquil surface masks a disturbing reality, as husband and father Gardner Lodge must navigate the town’s dark underbelly of betrayal, deceit and violence

    It’s just another Hollywood genre with a rigid formula. Horror movies for example is a genre which are always full of hot young teenagers being voyeuristically promiscuous and prone to credulously putting themselves at risk of being Krugered.

  228. Mother Lode

    how many abc staffers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    Well there is a problem. The dialectics of the bulb – protrusion, assertion, imposition into space, and its aggressively implying not only the existence of a socket but ‘defining it’ so that the socket has already been robbed of its independent nature, exactly correlates to the aggressive penis bearing male and the imposition of set characteristics defined by the male on the oppressed vulva bearing female.

    Added to this is the binary nature of bulb/socket and you can see we have significant problems here that can only be addressed by obliterating bulb privilege and the entire ritual of ‘bulb’ into ‘socket’ wherever we want light.

    The ABC would not change the lightbulb – they would deconstruct it by means of critical electro-luminosity theory. The socket would be liberated and encouraged to think of itself as a socket independent of the possibility of bulbs.

    Then they would form a committee to explore new means of light, although none of them would actually have any experience of electrical circuitry, physics, chemistry, or even the production of candles.

    Eventually they would issue a report blaming Trump.

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