Jordan Peterson 10: Climate change alarmism 0

Possibly the best 6 minute demolition of the bogey of climate change. At the Cambridge Union.

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  1. jupes

    Possibly the best 6 minute demolition of the bogey of climate change.

    Yep. Good stuff.

  2. The BigBlueCat

    He certainly hit the nail on the head!

  3. min

    I am a Jordan Peterson fan and another brilliant answer to a lefty question . Prefer his utube appearances more than his book.

  4. Nob

    The video will only be watched by those who already agree with him.

    At least the young Cambridge audience got to hear it.
    And applauded with (it seems to me) relief and amusement at Peterson’s flat “No” – a sentiment that they had dared not express at the original painfully Correct question.

    It’s been said before, of course, by Lomborg and others.
    All the prescriptions are useless because they are worse than the Problem they are trying to solve and the vast majority of the world’s population has no intention of following them.

    Here’s Rowan Dean in Quadrant May 2011:

    Only drive your car once a week at the most. Walk or cycle the other days. Breakfast, lunch and dinner? Raw, five days a week. You can cook on the weekend if you must. Eating out, or take-aways? Again, cut down by at least 80 per cent please. Immediately. And if you think it’s hard getting the kids to stop watching the telly, playing Xbox, or spending so long online now—don’t worry. Get rid of the lot of them. In terms of useless wastage, anything on a flat screen is the equivalent of those pesky sprinklers that kids used to jump around in. They’re history. And like the nuns used to say, lights out at 7.30 please. Everyone. Every night.

    The government would have us believe that there is a magic-pudding solution available through a carbon tax coupled with targeted tax cuts that allows us to merrily carry on with our current high-energy lifestyle whilst someone else magically makes the emissions disappear. Forget it. The only way to tackle climate change, if you feel so inclined, is to give up all the stuff you love. The lot. Or at least the vast majority of it. Now.

    As if what we do in The West is even relevant any more.

    Look at this:
    China private car ownership rose from 1.7m in 1980 to 16m in 2000.
    Then rose to 60m in 2009.(plus another 16m of non-private)

    These projections are already out of date:
    http://www.accessmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2012/10/forecasts-graph.jpg

    These numbers, including all vehicles, are more up to date. 217m vehicles in 2017:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/285306/number-of-car-owners-in-china/

    India has also seen enormous and rapid growth in new vehicle ownership and has hardly even got going on this.

    Africa has barely got going – https://nairametrics.com/vehicle-population-in-nigeria-is-11547236-nbs-data/

    Changing over to electric cars overnight a) can’t be done and b)would simply shift the problem and create demands on generation that renewables can’t possibly solve.

    Not to mention thousands of little things:
    (related to me by Indian businessman) Indian middle class used to wash their work shirt maybe once a week. Now a growing trend to clean shirts every day. The rise in demand for energy is enormous and will lead to improvements.

  5. I am bespoke

    If the sceptics shut up we would have unity. NPC?

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    He’s good at exploding heads.

    Swedish Foreign Minister Tells Jordan Peterson to ‘Crawl Back Under the Rock He Came From’
    (9 Nov)

    Commenting on the visit of Peterson to Sweden, Foreign Minister Wallström said, “I do not understand why people spend so much time on that man,” and though she agreed with Peterson’s call for young men to “clean their rooms” she added, “I think he should crawl back under the rock he came from.”

    Moderate Party MP Hanif Bali reacted to the comments saying, “Margot Wallström is the equivalent of a vegan activist who throws paint on grannies in furs but shuts up when Hells Angels show up in leather.”

    Sounds like green-socialist Ms Wallström might’ve watched the video.

  7. Mark A

    I found, that he was more than a bit annoyed by the naive, stupid assumption.
    Some, mind, some young people can be so pompous and self assured, that it pains.

  8. Herodotus

    “I think he should crawl back under the rock he came from.”

    That’s exactly the sort of mindless denigration Judith Sloan talks about in her article at The Oz on climate change as an economic disaster.
    Sure enough there’s the usual mindless denigration by some in comments under it.

  9. egg_

    “Margot Wallström is the equivalent of a vegan activist who throws paint on grannies in furs but shuts up when Hells Angels show up in leather.”

    Feminazis and Muzzos ring a bell?

  10. egg_

    If the sceptics shut up we would have unity.

    “I think he should crawl back under the rock he came from.”

    There will be no debate, so – shut up!

  11. The issue with this argument is that it seems to acknowledge that something called ‘global warming’ exists.
    What is it supposed to be? What is ‘climate change’ supposed to represent. Examine the definition of the parameter called CLIMATE and you will understand that it is regional, and that no region has experienced significant net change in the past hundred years, because in terms of minute oscillations in temperature occurring on a 60 year cycle.
    Surely after thirty years of this hoax it should be obvious that it is sheer nonsense.
    The issue won’t be settled until people realise that it is all make believe.
    There is no ‘greenhouse effect’, so there is no ‘greenhouse gas’.
    History is full of mass hysteria such as this which is based on pure nonsense.
    This was supposed to end with the enlightenment, but apparently not.

  12. Mark A

    Karabar
    #2861406, posted on November 11, 2018 at 8:05 am
    History is full of mass hysteria such as this which is based on pure nonsense.
    This was supposed to end with the enlightenment, but apparently not.

    The universe always wins.

    We fight tooth and nail, we try to educate the stupid, but they are prolific, always ahead of the curve.

  13. egg_

    This was supposed to end with the enlightenment

    This is the “enlightenment” – by the high priests of the church of global warming.
    Repent now!

  14. Terry

    “So, so, nope!”
    – Jordan Peterson

  15. duncanm

    .. many of those young-uns looked like they were being red-pilled by the simple outline of Bjorn Lomborg’s work and a reminder that the world is full of catastrophes that can be solved.

    Lumberjack lezzo wasn’t happy.

  16. Confused Old Misfit

    “So, so, nope!”
    – Jordan Peterson

    What I like is the unspoken “Now “F” off” at the end of the phrase.

  17. Terry

    “What I like is the unspoken “Now “F” off” at the end of the phrase.”

    A similar sentiment in his “low-resolution thinking” comment.

  18. tombell

    The dork sounded like a Q&A plant. Trouble with Q&A, you never get to see the dork smashed.

  19. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks for posting this Rafe, it is 6 minutes of sheer delight. I particularly liked the spontaneous laughter and clapping after the simple: No. The questioner was such an irritant, the voice and the brazen assumption that it was speaking for us all, and it was all about virtuous unity.

  20. Nate Winchester

    Thanks! You may also enjoy this discussion by Jim Steele. I compiled them into a playlist for ease of viewing.
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5oOQjuMV9kf2aROL85HNGXeCm8gBhssX

    I like it because it gives hope that most problems can be solved by local engineering.

  21. Iampeter

    Are you serious? Aside from being the usual Peterson rambling disjointedly and struggling to make a point, his overall position that “we just don’t have solutions” and there’s “other problems” are the WORST possible arguments you could make against climate alarmism.
    I mean, he isn’t even making any arguments against it. He seems to agree with the premise that there’s a real issue there, but its too hard to deal with, thus ceding the actual argument from the onset.

    Listen to the video again and try to actually THINK about what you’re actually hearing, not what you WISH you were hearing.
    This video is the opposite of what a good argument against climate change would sound like.

  22. MPH

    Stanley Cohen’s ‘Folk Devils And Moral Panics’ is more relevant than ever.

  23. Iampeter

    Also +1 to everything Karabar said.

  24. Howard Hill

    What a brilliant term, certainly describes anyone who thinks human induced climate change exists and that we can do anything about it if it did.

    “Low resolution thinking”

    Certainly describes the low resolution thinking, parasites running this joint!

  25. Muzzlehatch

    Why is Nuclear Power dismissed out of hand? JBP always seems to miss out on the crucial point and instead swallows in existential angst.

  26. Percy Popinjay

    Wow – what a pathetic repulsive audience of cretinous drooling illiterate innumerate ahistorical iampoofters. If they’re the future of our society, then god (or some other indeterminate deity) help us all.

  27. 27kdon

    Technically, he doesn’t really “demolish climate change” in that clip – the gist is he thinks that the problem of climate change (i.e. finding a solution to it) won’t unite the human race. I ‘feel’ he is right but I’m not sure, I’m not a psychologist/social scientist/business analyst/political scientist etc…

    He doesn’t dismiss climate change as false in this clip. He has tried once or twice in other clips (to my knowledge), but fails. The reason I mention this is the general trend of this discussion thread is “Ha! I knew climate change was a hoax!” – no, it’s not.

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