Wednesday Forum: November 14, 2018

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  1. Muddy

    Girls will receive free Soma brand tampons and pads at Victorian state schools if Labor is re-elected, premier Daniel Andrews has pledged.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Our Peewees have hatched and at the teeter totter stage at the rim of the nest.

    Atoms – Yes, the Café Bruce pair are late because of a misfire: they built a nest in another tree but abandoned it for some reason.

    It’s been a day for cuckoos. As I was typing this comment a female koel called outside – haven’t seen her since she left for migration last year. She’s found my house and remembered me so well she accepted several bits of food from my hand like she’d never been away. The poor peewees live in cuckoo heaven, but last year they managed to raise four chicks of their own so they may still get lucky.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Driver at fault’ over BHP runaway train, company says

    Andrew Burrell
    WA Chief Reporter
    @AndrewBurrell7
    2 minutes ago November 16, 2018
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    A spectacular derailment of a fully laden BHP iron ore train in the Pilbara occurred after the driver failed to apply an emer­gency air brake, an internal investigation has found.

    The admission that human error played a key role in the incident, which has cost BHP tens of millions of dollars, is likely to quicken the company’s move towards full automation of its trains.

    BHP’s investigation found that the train was stopped after a control cable in the braking system became disconnected. After the driver disembarked to carry out an inspection, the train — ­almost 3km in length and weighing more than 30,000 tonnes — began to roll away.

    BHP said the electric braking system that initially stopped the train had automatically released after an hour, while the driver was still outside. Moreover, the emergency brake that could have stopped the train after it rolled away had not been applied as ­required under the company’s operating procedures.

    ­The train reached speeds of more than 110km/h before BHP operators derailed it about 120km south of Port Hedland.

    Breaking, from the Oz.

  4. Mark A

    Boambee Joh

    #2865734, posted on November 16, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    Ability to read a map would considerably thin out the remainder.

    We can do it.

  5. Makka

    ‘Driver at fault’ over BHP runaway train, company says

    No extra servings of ice cream for a month and restricted to FTA tellie for a week for you ,sport.

    There is no more mines worker than the train drivers.

  6. Makka

    ………..There is no more coddled mines worker than the train drivers.

  7. mh

    classical_hero
    #2865708, posted on November 16, 2018 at 6:36 pm
    https://youtu.be/hPKbed4wh3Q

    Look who shows up to stop a commemoration of the Kristallnacht horrors. This happened in London. 😡

    They are Sadiq Khan’s foot soldiers.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    There is no more coddled mines worker than the train drivers

    Very soon there will be no more mines train drivers, coddled or otherwise.
    Which, given the militancy of the species, will be a very good thing.
    Suck on that CFMEU weenies.

  9. Rockdoctor

    Makka
    #2865748, posted on November 16, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Can’t disagree when it comes to the CMFEU or derivatives when it comes BHP mollycoddling workers…

  10. Girls will receive free Soma brand tampons and pads at Victorian state schools if Labor is re-elected, premier Daniel Andrews has pledged.

    Can’t wait until the first tampon fight breaks out in the classroom.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Eugenics 2.0: We’re at the Dawn of Choosing Embryos by Health, Height, and More

    Bummer if the parents choose a girl only for him to decide in preschool that he’s actually a boy.

    Planned Parenthood Lists ‘7 Ways to Be Gender-Inclusive in Your Language’ (today)

    No doubt Planned Parenthood would just love to help you with a retroactive abortion, once it’s legal, so you can try again.

  12. Snoopy

    Dot:

    a speeding charge relating to driving at 82 kilometres per hour in a 60kph zone

    Come on, really? He was a terrorist swine, this stuff just looks trivial.

    If you’re in Queensland, every ‘k’ over is a killer. That’s 22 dead right there. That’s no joke.

  13. Death Giraffe

    Eugenics 2.0: We’re at the Dawn of Choosing Embryos by Health, Height, and More

    ..
    That is literally hell.
    There is nothing like a complete fuckup that you entirely chose yourself.

  14. Delta A

    Can’t wait until the first tampon fight breaks out in the classroom.

    Or until all the little ladies start taking them home for mums, aunties and friends.

    More deep thinking from Dan.

  15. Snoopy

    Or until all the little ladies start taking them home for mums, aunties and friends.

    And their ‘dads’ and ‘brothers’.

  16. Rockdoctor

    News.com pushing the lycra angle again, yawn. As many articles in as many days from the cyclist’s angle. Could be trolling but it is getting tired already…

  17. None

    Has anyone checked out who’s behind the company called Soma which will be providing the free tampons? leave aside the totally creepy idea that governments should improve themselves into girls menstrual cycles and expect others to pay for their tampons the word Soma means body and Greg and I would not be surprised if there is some link to some screaming feminartsy planned Parenthood type activist org in cahoots with unions and labour types anyway. So why did the government pick this particular tampon producer and where the hell did this fuckwitted idea come from?
    Let me remind you that abortion is a business and in order for your business model to work you need dead babies and in order to get dead babies you get young women dependent on you for sex advice and contraception and then you feed them low-dose pills so that they get pregnant and then turn to you for advice on how to deal with it. Given that fukwit Dan Andrews has already introduced doctors in schools wear by students can go to the doctor without their parents knowledge or consent and Dr can prescribe them contraception probably even puberty blockers and given that the federal ear health legislation allows anyone age between 14 and 17 to block their parents from accessing or managing their health record and given of course schools in Victoria compulsorily must teach every form of sexual deviancy as normal under safe schools please excuse me if I’m more than highly suspicious about yet another totally creepy intrusion into our children’s lives. From where I sit Victorian parents have totally lost all their parental rights and the state has now full control of their children and their children’s sexuality. That is evil beyond words.
    So who has chased up the links and the contract with this group Soma?

  18. I am bespoke

    Worst part None, if it some scam the voters wont care.

  19. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Tintarella di Luna #2865700, posted on November 16, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    No, I’ve just taken to referring to Bob Carr as the four-letter ‘C’ word of Australian politics.

    Ah, so that is the C___ word referred to by M0nty following his lunch with JC! 🙂

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Has anyone checked out who’s behind the company called Soma

    That’s a Muddyism.
    Ironically there’s a women’s lingerie site of the name.
    Mustn’t’ve read BNW.

  21. Snoopy

    Ah, so that is the C___ word referred to by M0nty following his lunch with JC! 🙂

    How fucking infantile was that?

    “Nyah, Nyah. My friend JC said something about you. Nyah, Nyah.”

  22. None

    Bruce that’s twilight zone stuff. LOL.

  23. notafan

    Free won’t trump brand preference, not for most people.

    Victoria is not a third world country.

    I suspect those supermarket donation points with soon be overflowing with the Soma brand stuff, that that isn’t just binned.

    But it’s not Dan’s money being wasted so why would he care?

  24. Nelson Kidd-Players

    … a speeding charge relating to driving at 82 kilometres per hour in a 60kph zone

    Come on, really? He was a terrorist swine, this stuff just looks trivial.

    Word is, the police only decided to take him down once they heard of the speeding offences.

  25. zyconoclast

    Eugenics 2.0: We’re at the Dawn of Choosing Embryos by Health, Height, and More

    American Eugenics Society (1926-1972)

    And everyone freaks out with the, “It’s Ok to be white” meme.

  26. cohenite

    Tampons eh; pretty soon the hunchback will giving out butt-plugs:

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce that’s twilight zone stuff. LOL.

    None – It’s from Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Up there with Orwell’s 1984 as a classic. Scarily accurate both of them.

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    None,

    All good points. As Macbeth’s witches said, ‘There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark’.

  29. Hay Stockard

    I’m al libertarian and a,very long term member of the LDP. if self important onanists like dot are indicitave of the new wave of deep thinkers it is little wonder we only have only one Senator. Obviously I have even peeing against,the wind lookinking for proper linertarianism,. I won’t be renewing our memberships.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Was a tender put out for the free tampons? Were procurement policies and procedures followed?

    I honestly don’t know. Please tell me Soma isn’t run by the CFEMU.

    Suffering Christ.

  31. Top Ender:

    But no, let’s take an existing nuclear design; rip the engines out, put diesel-electrics (and fuel tanks!) in, and see if it works.

    Next project will be to add propellers to our F35s.
    And it makes as much sense.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How fucking infantile was that?

    “Nyah, Nyah. My friend JC said something about you. Nyah, Nyah.”

    As someone who was quite partial to a “long lunch’ back in the day, what was said over the lunch table, stayed over the lunch table, but Lefties never did have any idea about standards or etiquette.

  33. zyconoclast

    proper linertarianism

  34. Armadillo

    Soma isn’t run by the CFMEU.

  35. Bruce:

    Which means the poor peewees will either have to raise an enormous welfare bludger or will abandon the nest and try elsewhere.

    Can you put a wire frame from a hanging potplant – sans coconut fibre mat – over the nest?
    It should allow the peewees to get in and out, but stop the bludger layer.

  36. Bruce of Newcastle

    Please tell me Soma isn’t run by the CFEMU.

    Sorry I have to spell it out. “Soma” is an allusion by Muddy to Huxley’s Brave New World. In the novel soma is the drug used to keep the masses pliable. Tampons for the kiddies is an ideological drug which keeps the green-progressives happy. Soma is not a company supplying tampons to Dan the Tampon Man. At least I don’t think so. Muddy can correct me.

    On second thought the Soma lingerie website is likely named from Huxley too. Cool and very ironic choice.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    Please tell me Soma isn’t run by the CFEMU.

    Sorry I have to sp ell it out. “Soma” is an allusion by Muddy to Huxley’s Brave New World. Soma is the drug used to keep the masses pliable. Tampons for the kiddies is an ideological drug which keeps the green-progressives happy. Soma is not a company supplying tampons to Dan the Tampon Man. At least I don’t think so. Muddy can correct me.

    And yes I got spe lled by the spam nanny. Sheesh.

  38. The first skill required must be spoken and written English at at least Year 10 level.

    That alone would reduce migrant numbers hugely.

    That alone would clear out the majority of staff in the Dept of Immigration.

    The benefits are accruing already!

  39. John Comnenus

    Wow,

    looks like Rees-Mogg, or another Conservative, will bring a no confidence motion to the floor of UK Parliament against a PM from his own party. If this is true, then it will be quite unusual. I can only think of one other time something like this has happened in the UK and it was the defacto no confidence motion in Conservative Neville Chamberlain brought on by Conservatives MPs which led to Conservative Leo Amery concluding the debate by quoting Oliver Cromwell’s closing of the Long Parliament by telling Chamberlain, PM and leader of his own Party:

    You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!

    Mogg-Rees should speak last and reprise Cromwell, but more important Amery. Notably Amery’s son was one of only two Brits at the end of WWII who were executed for treason. Amery the junior was the deputy to Lord Haw Haw, Nazi English speaking propagandist. Ironically Amery’s mother was Jewish.

  40. candy

    I think free sunscreen would be more useful, and potentially save many skin cancer problems of both males and females into the future, not so serious ones but very serious ones too indeed. For Australia, it is a reasonable idea for schools to do that, if government must spend money on free stuff.

    But too boring and not getting the female vote.

  41. calli

    As Macbeth’s witches said, ‘There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark’.

    As they glanced around Friar Lawrence’s cell looking for a dropped handkerchief.

  42. Mitch M.

    Soma is the drug used to keep the masses pliable.

    AKA SSRIs. One of the most common yet rarely mentioned side effects of modern antidepressants is emotional numbness. 1 in 10 USAians are on antidepressants. Seriously effed up situation. So many nutjobs over there.

    13% of Americans Take Antidepressants

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    Thanks BoN.

    As an aside, it is my fervent belief that all line dancers should be shot.

    Exceptions can be made for those doing the Bus Stop or the Nutbush.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winston – Unfortunately the peewee nest is too high up for my ladder and on a narrow branch maybe 1″ thick. Big paperbark. See how it goes, maybe I can give them enough food to raise peewee chicks as well as a cuckoo.

  45. Clementine Ford on Boyhood: Food for Thought at Tucks

    Saturday, 17 November 2018 | 07:00 PM to 09:30
    What is boyhood? What is masculinity? And how do we begin to dismantle old-fashioned ideas about what boys and men should be.

    Heading down to the Mornington Peninsular?
    Looking for a good time?

  46. Hay Stockard

    Calli,
    I liked,his,stirring speech to his soldiers at Ronceville though. Epic stuff. Somebody should make a,movie.

  47. duncanm

    I look forward to more straight talking from Josh Frydenberg:

    Bob Carr is the least well-regarded foreign minister in Australia’s history. Bob Carr is better known for his steel-cut oats and his first-class pyjamas and flying around the world picking up anecdotes for his own memoirs than for anything he did as foreign minister,

  48. candy

    Clem Ford is a strange one. Her living is as a journalist with SMH now and then so hardly any money one would think. Virtually nil. A book probably hardly anyone bought. No proper job.

    Which means she was provided and cared for by her dad throughout uni etc and now her husband with whom she has a baby must be providing for and taking care of her financially and in all ways.

    The patriarchy cradles and looks after her.

  49. zyconoclast

    A constitutionally-enshrined Indigenous “Voice to Parliament” would strengthen Australia’s democracy in a time of global uncertainty, journalist Stan Grant has declared, suggesting it was a profound expression of confidence in the country’s political system and would soothe bitter social divisions.

    More facts from Stan

    Mum – Betty Grant (nee Cameron): the daughter of a white woman and an Aboriginal man, born in an Aboriginal camp near Coonabarabran. (p.32) Stan points out that Betty was a distinctly Aboriginal woman, despite having her mother’s pale skin, blonde hair, and narrow features.

  50. JC

    Her living is as a journalist with SMH now and then so hardly any money one would think. Virtually nil.

    Ah no, she earns 250K a year with Fairfax. She told me so a few years ago when stoushing with her on Twitter. She accused me of being typical low income rightwing trash and I could only dream about how much she earned. No kidding.

  51. Hay Stockard

    Zyconoclast,
    Stan has a black heart. That’s what matters most.

  52. twostix

    JC who did you call a rude name?

  53. twostix

    A constitutionally-enshrined Indigenous “Voice to Parliament” would strengthen Australia’s democracy in a time of global uncertainty, journalist Stan Grant has declared, suggesting it was a profound expression of confidence in the country’s political system and would soothe bitter social divisions.

    Where’s that massive face palm picture?

  54. None

    Failing to see what the issue was with what Miss Klein said. If ALA misused her interview that’s not her responsibility. https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/liberal-candidate-for-marginal-yan-yean-gone-after-video-surfaces-20181115-p50g43.html I’m going to laugh if she gets voted in and sits as an independent. Please people do vote her in.

  55. RobK

    If you suffer from insomnia or have a burning desire to understand AEMOs spot pricing and distribution price modelling, then this is for you.
    https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Files/Electricity/NEM/Security_and_Reliability/Loss_Factors_and_Regional_Boundaries/2016/Treatment_of_Loss_Factors_in_the_NEM.pdf
    Summary sample:
    Economic efficiency requires that the price for a good or service reflect the full cost of producing and delivering to the point of consumption the next unit of that good or service (in the electricity industry, this process is also called “economic dispatch”). This principle has been adopted for the NEM through the use of marginal pricing and an approximate form of nodal pricing. Marginal pricing is implemented by defining the spot price for electricity to be the incremental cost of additional generation (or demand reduction) for each spot market trading interval. Marginal pricing is extended to an approximate form of nodal pricing by taking account of network losses to derive a set of nodal prices for each node at which a Market Participant is located. An accurate implementation of full nodal pricing would require marginal network losses to be calculated and updated every dispatch interval. All network flow constraints would also have to be taken into account. The NEM adopted an approximate version of nodal pricing was adopted. This approximate method involves the calculation of marginal loss factors to reflect the marginal cost of network losses. Regions have been defined between which flow constraints are modelled and the interregional loss factors vary from one dispatch interval to the next, as would be the case if full nodal pricing were employed. These dynamic loss factors are defined between specific connection points in each region referred to as “regional reference nodes” (RRNs). In the absence of interregional flow constraints, the dynamic loss factor for an interconnector equals the ratio between the spot prices at the respective RRNs. Within each region static marginal loss factors are calculated that approximately represent the impact of marginal network losses on nodal prices at the transmission network connection points at which generation and loads are located. These static marginal loss factors are average values calculated from historical network flow data from the previous financial year.

  56. None

    Remember Frydenberg was quite happy to be Turnbull’s lap dog and sell Australia down the toilet with his energy scheme. This is the first and only time he has ever archd up and it’s about a matter which is not directly important to the Australian people even though I support and most would support our Embassy moving to Jerusalem. Frydenberg is a coward. When he needed to stand up for the Australian to pay his salary and whom he’s meant to represent he didn’t. As far as I’m concerned frydenberg has shown his character and his character is one that would betray Australia for his own self interest
    He’s another lefty tosser in parliament and should be voted out.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    it was a profound expression of confidence in the country’s political system and would soothe bitter social divisions.

    Bitter social divisions which the likes of Stan Grant, and others, have emphasized at every opportunity, peddling all the old myths about the 1967 referendum, poisoned waterholes and smallpox infected blankets.

  58. twostix

    It should worry everyone, right, left, all, that the only time this country approached a robust democracy was from about 1950-1996.

    A time when we had about 200,000 battled hardened cnuts ready to smash bugmen’s faces in they got too gay on us.

    Either side of those years and we’re a colonial backwater ruled by a cutoff distant weirdo elite. Half of who weren’t even born here.

  59. None

    JC

    #2865803, posted on November 16, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Did she say that really? Yes I’d believe she would say something that stupid. Clem Ford is self made low rent White Trash. Self made because her dad seems pretty decent (I think he’s a member of One Nation isn’t he?) and I doubt he raised her to be such a promiscuous fat loudmouthed slob.

  60. areff

    As Macbeth’s witches said, ‘There’s something rotten in the state of Denmark’.

    When Wellington had Davy Crockett and Custer executed after the siege of Copenhagen.

    Davy was keen to defend the product below, which does little for one’s love life:

  61. zyconoclast

    Trump the ‘White Power Crusader’ Feeds Global Conspiracy Theories of a J3wish-Muslim Plot Against Christianity

    The Pittsburgh shooter bought into white supremacist claims of a ‘Semitic plot against America,’ reviving a medieval blood libel of Christ-killers, cannibals and invaders. This is how the Trump administration fuels that dangerous fantasy.

  62. Candy

    250,000 I don’t think so, JC. That would be half a PMs salary for half a dozen articles no-one much reads.
    Dad provided for and cared for her until her partner took over, more like it.

  63. .

    Hay Stockard
    #2865779, posted on November 16, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    I’m al libertarian and a,very long term member of the LDP. if self important onanists like dot are indicitave of the new wave of deep thinkers it is little wonder we only have only one Senator. Obviously I have even peeing against,the wind lookinking for proper linertarianism,. I won’t be renewing our memberships.

    Haha.

    You idiot I’ve been in the party since 2002 and wrote some of the policy with J.H., Terje and D.L. like the CIR and eminent domain stuff; and along with the same we pushed for the tax policy rate to go down to 20%. New wave? I haven’t done anything for the party except some number crunching once off for D.L (in 2010) since 2008.

    If you leave a political party because you don’t like what someone said on a blog…sweet jesus mate, you’re not cut out for this stuff. You might even have someone…multiple people disagree with you in real life.

    I’ve copped some pretty heavy abuse here and would still buy pretty much everyone here a beer. They give me shit because I am pretty much a “proper” libertarian (and they are “proper” conservatives).

    I’ve said hardly anything provocative in a while save for shitting on boomers as an in-joke with IT and rambler (the joke is baiting Makka and Snoopy of course).

    Get a grip. We could be accusing each other of sexual harassment like the Greens.

    Of course, you could be bullshitting and trying an SJW style attempt to stifle debate.

    Really Hay, it’s late on Friday and we should be deep in liquor. Let go of your inhibitions. Tell me what you took offence too. I even have a phone number my good friend JC can answer if you’re deeply troubled by all of this.

  64. twostix

    dot old friend, you’ve driven more people away from the LDP than their members weirdo obsession with homosexuality has.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Christmas terror plotter Ibrahim Abbas sentenced to 24 years in jail

    Tessa Akerman
    Reporter
    @TessaAkerman
    An hour ago November 16, 2018

    A self-confessed terrorist who planned to attack crowds in Melbourne’s Federation Square at Christmas 2016 will spend 24 years in jail.

    Ibrahim Abbas pleaded guilty in February to conspiring to plan a terror attack while his three co-accused, Ahmed Mohamed, Abdullah Chaarani and Ibrahim’s younger brother Hamza pleaded not guilty over the plot to attack crowds with machetes and explosives.

    Ibrahim Abbas was sentenced on September 20 but his sentence could not be revealed until after his co-conspirators were found guilty

    Breaking news.

  66. None

    Regardless of whether money was making up the Soma brand or not one needs to ask where did Dan Andrews get his tampons idea and of course it comes straight out of the feminartsy Playbook and you can bet that supplies will be from Union approved orgs
    Another ponzi scheme in the making and a vile vile intrusion into girls’ lives. Remember in the 60s when the left was avidly sexuallising children they wanted absolutely no inhibitions on any form of sexual play by children, no inhibition on any discussion about any swxyaltopic, no privacy, no intimacy. If you wonder where the current trend for teenagers on Instagram sporting p*** pouts and Brazilians it comes straight from pornography and actually mostly gay p*** which is even more violent and foul and misogynist than other forms of porn. We need some South American mums to stand up as they did in South America and tell these perverted a holes to get the hands off other people’s kids.

  67. cohenite

    RobK

    #2865809, posted on November 16, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    If you suffer from insomnia or have a burning desire to understand AEMOs spot pricing and distribution price modelling, then this is for you.

    That’s no surprise, they make it up.

  68. jupes

    dot old friend, you’ve driven more people away from the LDP than their members weirdo obsession with homosexuality has.

    Fact check: True.

  69. None

    dot old friend, you’ve driven more people away from the LDP than their members weirdo obsession with homosexuality has.

    Oh yes, dot the homophobe, pretending to be all for homosexual me shoving their dicks up other men’s shitholes but he gets oh so queasy about gay sex.
    One reason I come to Catallaxy is to remind myself why I am not a libertarian and why most people who claim to be are not and those whouwant to be are just your stock-standard authoritarian s****. If dot is the best the ldp can do, then don’t waste your time or money with them.

  70. Roger

    Remember Frydenberg was quite happy to be Turnbull’s lap dog and sell Australia down the toilet with his energy scheme. This is the first and only time he has ever archd up and it’s about a matter which is not directly important to the Australian people even though I support and most would support our Embassy moving to Jerusalem.

    An astute observation, None.

    The last time I checked Frydenberg was Treasurer, not Foreign Minister or Prime Minister. I’m sure he wouldn’t appreciate other ministers publicly commenting on his portfolio in an unhelpful manner.

    And it all goes back to Morrison.

    This government is an odium of incompetents.

  71. .

    gay p*** which is even more violent and foul and misogynist than other forms of porn

    You’re gonna have to explain how gay porn is even worse.

    You’ve really made my head spin by saying how gay porn is (even more) misogynistic.

    I would imagine that it couldn’t be misogynistic by definition.

    I can’t understand how I’m wrong about this one. This is puzzling.

  72. .

    Oh yes, dot the homophobe, pretending to be all for homosexual me shoving their dicks up other men’s shitholes but he gets oh so queasy about gay sex.

    English please, none. That sentence makes no sense at all, and I’m not being pedantic. I can’t even get the gist of it.

  73. tgs

    None you sound like an incel who’s managed to become an adult without growing up.

  74. None

    Roger

    #2865825, posted on November 16, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    Totally with you on that.

  75. mh

    Marco Rubio
    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    ·
    15h
    No evidence of fraud in #FloridaElection?

    Dems got voters to use altered forms to fix & submit as many mail ballots as possible after FL deadline in hopes that a judge would later order state to count them.

    Today that’s exactly what a federal judge did.

    Unbelievable.

  76. None

    So, is dot gay or not?

    As camp as a row of tents.

  77. JC

    It’s not far fetched, Candy.

    Columnists do earn that sort of pay. Some of the useless amoeba Fairfax made redundant over the years were on that sort of wicket as reported at the time.

  78. JC

    Did she say that really? Yes I’d believe she would say something that stupid. Clem Ford is self made low rent White Trash. Self made because her dad seems pretty decent (I think he’s a member of One Nation isn’t he?) and I doubt he raised her to be such a promiscuous fat loudmouthed slob.

    Yep. Going back about 4 odd years ago. It was very funny.

  79. None

    What is even funnier JC is I remember her whinging one time about a talk she was living at a school going over by 10 minutes or something, because you know her time is money and she didn’t get paid for that extra 10 minutes. If she were really earning that sort of money from Fairfax you wouldn’t give a toss about an unpaid 10 minutes brainwashing other people’s children in schools.

  80. .

    None if you think support of SSM makes someone gay, then most Australians are gay. I am a paranoid libertarian nutter who keeps jars of wizard piss in the fridge and thought the “plebiscite” was actually legally void (with good reason) so I refused to even send back the form. I like women; so far as to say that only straight men ought to run modelling agencies.

    That said, can you explain your rather unhinged idea that “gay porn is more misogynistic that straight porn”?

  81. None

    tgs

    #2865829, posted on November 16, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    None you sound like an incel who’s managed to become an adult without growing up.

    Nah mate. That’s dot. Still lives with his mum.

  82. Mark A

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2865795, posted on November 16, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Winston – Unfortunately the peewee nest is too high up for my ladder and on a narrow branch maybe 1″ thick. Big paperbark. See how it goes, maybe I can give them enough food to raise peewee chicks as well as a cuckoo.

    Long extension pole with mirror and hook worth investing in.
    Or your phone attached to same in video mode to check.

    Seen it done by a forester/wildlife officer here, looking for and registering eggs of endangered avians.

  83. .

    None with more nonsensical insults “gay incel with no women interested…”? (WTF?).

    I just want an explanation of how gay porn is more misogynistic than straight porn.

    If I can understand this, my IQ might jump 20 points, but I’ll lose a lot of my benefits, so I’ll think it over.

  84. jupes

    The legal profession in their wisdom have decided that planning to slaughter as many Aussies as possible is only worth 20 years in jail.

    Here is a rather interesting snippet from the Muslim savage’s trial:

    The court was told Abbas had planned to put an explosive vest on his brother Hamza.

    That’s it then. Every Muslim attacker should be shot on sight from now on.

  85. jupes

    Hey Dot have you added Melbourne’s recent Muslim terrorists to your list?

    What is the count up to now have we hit 300 yet?

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The legal profession in their wisdom have decided that planning to slaughter as many Aussies as possible is only worth 20 years in jail.

    The “Daily Mail” claims that all their defenses were mounted, using Legal aid.

  87. .

    jupes

    What is your problem with quantifying this?

    Up until 2013 there were only about 300 terrorists who attacked the west (not Russia or Israel and not in insurgency in warzones) since 1968.

    It is way over that now, especially if you include people who went to fight with ISIS.

  88. .

    The “Daily Mail” claims that all their defenses were mounted, using Legal aid.

    Then the prosecutors were absolute rubes. That’s the rub. Blame judges. No. Blame prosecutors who can’t stand in front of a magistrate and say why a suspected terrorist ought not to get bail. Monis was on bail after 42 sex offences and being an accessory to murder. Another “rookie” mistake. No one in the NSW DPP (or NSWPOL) lost their job over this, IIRC.

  89. Armadillo

    I just want an explanation of how gay porn is more misogynistic than straight porn.

    Blokes pretending to be Sheilahs might be your first clue.

  90. None

    The “Daily Mail” claims that all their defenses were mounted, using Legal aid.

    If you can afford equipment to build a bomb you can afford your own legal representation. It’s about time legal aid got a very very big overhaul. I also hope that there is a law that guarantees automatic deportation for foreign born scum – in fact I think there is and that is why the fetid and corrupt Victorian judiciary regularly does not give sentences or gives light sentences so that the perpse don’t fall within range of deportation. There are many people that should hang in Australia and some of them wear wigs and sit on a bench.

  91. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That’s it then. Every Muslim attacker should be shot on sight from now on.

    I’m re – reading Alistair Horne’s “A Savage War of Peace.” Granted, it’s mostly about the war in Algeria, but there are a couple of chapters about how the French dealt with any Muslim terrorist threats on the mainland. The electricity bill must have been substantial.

  92. .

    I also hope that there is a law that guarantees automatic deportation for foreign born scum

    Why shouldn’t they be punished first? That would increase (maximise) deterrence. Some of the worst offenders may never get out. If they are that much of a threat than life imprisonment is what we have substituted now for capital punishment. They would never go home if we went back to CP and deporting them would be irresponsible and obviously dangerous, like doling out bail willy-nilly.

  93. Armadillo

    The fact gays used to be singled out as “Mummy’s Boys” is probably your second clue.

    They think they are Sheliahs.

  94. Nob

    JC
    #2865834, posted on November 16, 2018 at 10:58 pm
    Did she say that really? Yes I’d believe she would say something that stupid. Clem Ford is self made low rent White Trash. Self made because her dad seems pretty decent (I think he’s a member of One Nation isn’t he?) and I doubt he raised her to be such a promiscuous fat loudmouthed slob.

    Yep. Going back about 4 odd years ago. It was very funny.

    I actually met him years ago when he worked for a drilling contractor based in Elizabeth, SA.

    I had time to kill* in Adelaide after some meetings so called him out of the blue.
    I was just looking for background info on land drilling in Australia and he was very helpful.

    *but not enough to source barrels for the bodies.

  95. None

    Haha Miranda Devine has removed Malcolm Turnbull from all her headers and is now carping on how the New South Wales Liberals ruin everything. I’ve been saying for years that the New South Wales Liberals are totally corrupt. What a stupid cow Miranda turned out to be.

  96. Armadillo

    Overbearing mothers might have a bit to do with it. Wanted a girl, got a boy. Forced the poor bastard to play with dolls and talk with a lisp.

  97. .

    LOL

    Old news, but I don’t remember seeing it back then.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/11/liberal-democratic-party-logo-failed-to-meet-aec-guidelines

    The logo used by David Leyonhjelm’s Liberal Democratic party at the 2016 election failed to meet the Australian Electoral Commission’s guidelines and should not have been approved, a review of the decision has found.

    The logo, used during the 2016 election campaign, shows the word “Liberal” in large, bolded capital letters, with the word “Democrat” in smaller, unbolded letters.

    Complaints were made about the logo to the commission in May 2016, but the Australian Electoral Commission found there was insufficient evidence to determine the logo should be refused.

    But in June two eminent tobacco control experts and professors of public health, Mike Daube from Curtin University and Simon Chapman from the University of Sydney, called on the commission to review its decision. The professors are interested in Leyonhjelm in part because of his acceptance of $55,000 in donations from big tobacco company Philip Morris.

    If only there was an ethical issue in using taxpayer funds to lobby to control the lives of said taxpayers as serfs, vis a vis incompetent and misleading “research”.

  98. None

    Yes here’s Clem’s dad and he is why I love Tim Blair.
    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/oh-my-darling/news-story/a34b72815602b1529b8b042553f0be37
    When I say someone’s got daddy issues I know they have Daddy Issues.

  99. jupes

    What is your problem with quantifying this?

    First of all your initial claim was that there was only 2oo or so Muslim terrorists in the whole fucking world.

    After you realised your epic self-beclownment, you added the absurd caveats above.

    Even if you add those stupid caveats, you have understated the number of Muslim terrorists by a factor of thousands.

    You just don’t know when to stop digging. You idiot.

  100. None

    Armadillo

    #2865855, posted on November 16, 2018 at 11:28 pm

    95% of gay men that I know and I know heaps have had absent fathers – emotionally or physically absent – and yes often with overbearing mothera – but it’s the absent fathers that are the issue. That doesn’t mean every kid who grows up without a father is going to be gay, nor does it preclude some biological determinants as well, but it says to me there is a very deep psycho-spiritual need that is not being met that precipitates their turn towards another man, more so if there is an older man hanging around making moves on an insecure or angry teen in that position. I have to say that is also a pattern amongst most of the gays that I know: the presence of a predatory -and usually older – other at a critical point in their life. Milo got into a lot of trouble for letting that cat out of the bag but it is well known amongst the gay community.
    Lesbians imho have Daddy Issues as well. In their case they actually hate their mothers for getting more attention from their dad and as a father daughter relationship is very important for helping a daughter negotiate relationships with males in future she opts instead to form relationships with women. It’s very hard to explain this – but that is actually a form of self hate and hate of women and a lot of lesbians hate straight women especially and straight women who work closely with lesbians would know what I mean. But worse: because lesbians actually hate women is a contributing factor I think to the high rate of domestic violence among lesbian couples and in their case it’s usually two way I. E. both partners are abusive towards each other.

  101. .

    I guessed there were about 200 terrorists who attacked the west and added up all accused since modern terrorism started and it turned out there was about 300.

    Including all insurgency stuff which is heavily tribally based and taking Daniel Pipe’s made up figures or similar isn’t helpful or accurate at all. ISIS were using literal retards as cannon fodder. Making out they’re like Mohammad Atta is absurd.

  102. None

    Just posted at the Tele:
    RADICAL PLAN OPENS UP RICH SCHOOLS’ FACILITIES

    EXCLUSIVE Education Minister Rob Stokes is pushing elite private schools to open up their multimillion-dollar sports and arts facilities to public school students­ — and is prepared to tweak the Education Act to make it happen. POLL: Is this a good idea?

    I told you the New South Wales Libs are corrupt – state or federal. Next they will be making laws demanding you have reffos in your house. Watch.

  103. Nob

    ISIS were using literal retards as cannon fodder

    BBC reckons about 30,000 fighters joined ISIS.
    So they weren’t too retarded to research the trip, make travel arrangements and willingly join up.

    A guy who’d been at school with my kids did it and got blown up. He was OK academically, just stupid in other ways.

  104. sdfc

    Even if you add those stupid caveats, you have understated the number of Muslim terrorists by a factor of thousands.

    Even if your estimate is true it doesn’t mean all Muslims are terrorists or sympathisers, which seems to be your starting point.

  105. jupes

    ISIS were using literal retards as cannon fodder. Making out they’re like Mohammad Atta is absurd.

    Okay you’ve decided to keep digging. Okay we now have a new caveat.

    Idiot Muslim terrorists don’t count. Well in that case you might have a point but then again, Idiot Muslim terrorists still kill people Dotty.

    You idiot.

  106. None

    A guy who’d been at school with my kids did it and got blown up. He was OK academically, just stupid in other ways.

    How did you find out about him and how did your kids react when they learnt of his demise? Did you worry about your kids being at school with such murderous scum?

  107. .

    Really? Including people gang-pressed into ISIS and the poor mentally disabled sods they basically kidnapped from institutions or their families?

    What utterly bogus reckoning.

  108. jupes

    Even if your estimate is true it doesn’t mean all Muslims are terrorists or sympathisers, which seems to be your starting point.

    All Muslims believe the same evil crap as Muslim terrorists. They follow the instructions from the same book.

    The leaders of supposedly ‘moderate’ Muslim nations have demonstrated their hatred of Jews over just the last few days. They “sympathise” with Hamas – a Muslim terrorist organisation.

  109. tgs

    Tbh None you are exhibiting the classic incel trait of being preoccupied with sex. You seem to be interested in both homosexual and heterosexual topics, keep flaming pal.

  110. jupes

    Really? Including people gang-pressed into ISIS and the poor mentally disabled sods they basically kidnapped from institutions or their families?

    LOL

    ISIS press-ganged and kidnapped 30,000 retarded foreign Muslims to form their terrorist army!

    Keep going Dotty you are outdoing yourself now.

  111. .

    I was not referring to the 30,000 foreign fighters, you dim bulb.

  112. Armadillo

    ISIS were using literal retards as cannon fodder.

    I’d be surprised if there isn’t a causal link between mental illness and terrorism.

  113. Top Ender

    A Melbourne photographer who was among the nine indigenous artists who took columnist Andrew Bolt to court over two articles he wrote discussing their identity and skin colour has said she “probably wouldn’t” follow the same course of action if she had the time again.

    In a video posted to YouTube, Bindi Cole Chocka, whose grandmother had Aboriginal heritage, said her exposure to conservative views during and after the matter changed her political stance and identity.

    She said she was no longer a left-wing “social justice warrior and ­virtue signaller” and now identified as a conservative Christian with mixed heritage.

    Speaking on his Sky News segment on Thursday night, Bolt said the discrimination case was a low point in his career and that it was a “sinister overreach of state power” for the Federal Court to have stopped publication of his two articles.

    His articles criticised fair-skinned indigenous artists who he said used their Aboriginal identity for career progression.

    In 2011, judge Mordecai Bromberg found that the way Bolt’s articles were written had contravened section 18 (c) of the Racial Discrimination Act and were reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate some fair-skinned ­Aboriginal people.

    He also ruled the articles “contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language”.

    On Thursday, Bolt said Chocka’s change of heart was proof “that race was in this case, at least, a question of choice”.

    “One of my key arguments in those pieces was that these nine Aborigines had a choice of how to identify themselves: Aboriginal, white, both or whatever,” he said.

    In Chocka’s YouTube video, she said identifying as “a victim” meant she did not have to take ­responsibility for her behaviour. “I could constantly blame everything and everyone else,” she said.

    “What I was was a social justice warrior and a virtue signaller.”

    She told The Weekend Australian yesterday that she had always believed she was of mixed racial identity. “I realised there is a problem with identity politics and intersectionality,” Chocka said.

    “When you do identify in these ways, you are so often buying into a victim identity.”

    Chocka said she had ­become a Christian and had shifted her political views from the Left to the Right. She said she “probably wouldn’t” use the Racial Discrimination Act to sue if she had her time again.

    “When I went through the ­Andrew Bolt case I genuinely ­believed those things I was doing, now I realise I had the wrong mentality about a lot of things,” she said.

    “I still think the things Andrew Bolt wrote about me were not good; he tore down my character and was not fair; he didn’t know me. But I wouldn’t want to limit free speech.”

    Chocka said she no longer ­entered her work for indigenous awards but her art was still sometimes chosen to run alongside that of other indigenous artists.

    Oz complete article

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