Wednesday Forum: November 28, 2018

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  1. Tom

    It’s that time on a Wednesday already …

  2. .

    Senile Old Guy
    #2874189, posted on November 28, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    You’re not allowed to hand in a draft and ask for feedback before the due date. That’s “cheating”, somehow…?

    It is not cheating and a sensible teacher would allow it.

    It simply is not allowed in universities. Say what you like about the common sense of an institution that is paid in contingent loans and has an incentive to fail people…

  3. struth

    From last thread

    Truck driving here and in the states are like chalk and cheese.

    We even at one stage had some bigger companies, (think TNT etc) who used to do driver swaps between the two countries.
    It didn’t last long.
    The Aussie drivers loved it over there, while many of the yank drivers didn’t make it through their first trip down Sesame Street (The Hume when it was still single lane) and quit on the spot.

  4. Mark A

    Can’t go to bed I’m on a roll betting wise.

  5. Carpe Jugulum

    Top Ten

    I am a God

  6. .

    their first trip down Sesame Street (The Hume when it was still single lane)

    LOL

  7. Mark A

    Will pay for it tomorrow but by being only half there.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    We even at one stage had some bigger companies, (think TNT etc) who used to do driver swaps between the two countries.
    It didn’t last long.
    The Aussie drivers loved it over there, while many of the yank drivers didn’t make it through their first trip down Sesame Street (The Hume when it was still single lane) and quit on the spot.

    America has a proper highway system. Australia blows its road budget on roundabouts and speed humps.

    Still, like most of America’s working class, truck drivers there are treated appallingly.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Good to see that Australian medical researchers are addressing the important topics.

    How long does it take to poop Lego? Scientists swallow toy heads to solve burning question

    Six curious scientists have answered a bizarre call of doodie to explore how long it takes for a piece of Lego, the children’s toy, to complete its wonderful journey through the body once it’s been swallowed.

    The unusual study, conducted to ease the minds of long-suffering parents, and perhaps eccentric adults, was the brainchild of Australian and UK researchers. The group appear to think life’s poo short not to find out how long Lego blocks take to end up at the bottom of the toilet bowl.

    Published in the Journal of Paediatrics and Child Health (yes, seriously), the painstaking dookie review was undertaken by scientists Andrew Tagg, Damian Roland, Grace Leo, Henry Goldstein and Tessa Davis. According to the publication, the aim was to “determine typical transit times” for an item that’s commonly swallowed by children – Lego.

    For the experiment, all six researchers scarfed down a Lego figurine head before documenting the outcome. After what might have been a painful release, the conclusion seems to be that a toy block should pass through in about 1.71 days on average. Good news, if you’ve a habit of chomping on plastic toys.

    Wimps! Real researchers would do the study using classic Lego rectangular blocks, not smooth round ones.

    On the other hand I think I can safely say they are top candidates for the next Ig Nobel Prize in physiology.

  10. struth

    Still, like most of America’s working class, truck drivers there are treated appallingly

    They’ve got decent roads, decent trucks and the ability to get a clean shower and toot……………..

    My previous comment about the yanks over here actually really highlights how stupid we are for putting up with what they wouldn’t accept.

  11. Rossini

    Top 20
    Stupid.Forken. Liberals. What’s left of them!

  12. Mother Lode

    Sweet 16 and never been…(never you mind).

  13. Tintarella di Luna

    Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm – Publiilus Syrus

  14. struth

    Compared to what we put up with here, if I could get a job driving in the States, I would jump at it.
    But due to corruption, they don’t want fully qualified diesel mechanics with years of experience driving American trucks and crash gearboxes, with loads and lengths unimaginable over there, a person who values their western values and would slot straight in, when they can get a third world towel head who can’t speak English and couldn’t drive a greasy stick up a dog’s arse, and doesn’t know how to use toilets, cooks curries inside the truck and as has happened here in Australia, these monkeys have actually cut a hole in the cab floor to shit through so they don’t have to stop every five minutes to deal with their explosives runs from the ethnic slop they eat.
    There has actually been a company in Australia that has been banned from a service workshop because the mechanics lifted the cab to find the engine covered in shit.

    That’s the people they want.
    Not me.

  15. hzhousewife

    I concur with your last two posts wholeheartedly Cactus. Ignorance IS NOT bliss.

  16. DrBeauGan

    That’s the people they want.
    Not me.

    You were brought up under the conventions of Western Civilisation, Struth. You aren’t diverse enough to shit on the engine.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    There has actually been a company in Australia that has been banned from a service workshop because the mechanics lifted the cab to find the engine covered in shit.

    And Lego?

  18. struth

    How many white Australians would jump at the chance to live in the States?

    Thousands, especially now.

    Their deep state, like here, may as well put as sign up saying no whites or Christians allowed.

  19. DrBeauGan

    when they can get a third world towel head who can’t speak English and couldn’t drive a greasy stick up a dog’s arse, and doesn’t know how to use toilets, cooks curries inside the truck and as has happened here in Australia, these monkeys have actually cut a hole in the cab floor to shit through so they don’t have to stop every five minutes to deal with their explosives runs from the ethnic slop they eat.
    There has actually been a company in Australia that has been banned from a service workshop because the mechanics lifted the cab to find the engine covered in shit.

    Diversity is our strength.

  20. Unless you are Robert Oppenheimer
    Learning math later in life when you know some physics/chemistry/whatever is a lot harder than a mathematician learning physics/chemistry/economics/whatever.

    Hire a mathematician and they will learn whatever else is required for the job (at high speed).

  21. struth

    And Lego?

    Lego is a solid.
    they don’t eat solid anything.

  22. .

    Learning math later in life when you know some physics/chemistry/whatever is a lot harder than a mathematician learning physics/chemistry/economics/whatever.

    The biggest crackpot in Australian economics is a mathematician and amateur economist.

    40% annual ROI for building public roads, he reckons. Geez, what a BS artist. These local government conventions lap that up like leftovers on an engine bay.

    Sounds like the failed genii at LTCM…”we have a model…”.

  23. H B Bear

    Welcome to a new Death to the Lieborals thread. Number 286 in an ongoing series. Please mind your language.

  24. H B Bear

    Maocolm’s Performing Stick Insect’s comments on Lieboral leadership are provoking much mirth on Twitter.

    She’s done.

  25. H B Bear

    Most academic economists are failed mathematicians who bail when it gets too hard.

  26. .

    Most academic economists are failed mathematicians who bail when it gets too hard.

    You mean the famous ones with utterly bizarre ideas. I know some very good applied economists (econometricians who aren’t purely theorists).

    Keynes is probably a great example of a little bit of knowledge being dangerous. He did one semester of economics as a student. Also, remember he went bankrupt as a trader.

  27. Rockdoctor

    Another 40 deg day in NQ. Dry heat from NW winds though so very tolerable, just waiting for the sea breezes to kick in or the predicted storms start popping up… Oh and next week GFS throwing up a cyclone in Coral Sea… One extreme to the other, fun & games…

  28. Notafan

    I have a question for the Liberals

    If Abbott won in a landslide in 2013 with Axe the Tax how come the LNP lost Victoria because of not climate change enough?

    The evidence for climate change hasn’t improved in the intervening four years

    Australia’s alleged contribution to the alleged problem is minuscule

    And every gloom and doom prediction by the snake C02 salemsn has failed to eventuate

    I know the answer though (you just made it up)

    There is some levity in the charade. In 2009, then-British Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted that the world had only 50 days to save the planet from global warming. But fifty days, six months, and eight years later, the earth seems fine.

    some of those here

  29. bespoke

    Death Giraffe
    #2874005, posted on November 28, 2018 at 9:35 am

    Why can’t Australians build roads?
    Why do you insist on making them flat in a country that has frequent downpours?
    You have to build them with camber such that the water drains off.
    Why isn’t this obvious? What is wrong with you lot? Are you all retarded?

    We have to the stop sign girls employed while the blokes stand around looking at the pot hols.

  30. max

    The ABC says Abbott and Dutton are responsible. Outrageous ! Malevolent saboteurs !

    Malcolm Turnbull is an angel. He departed the field leaving it clear for his successors.

    Got that ?

  31. thefrolickingmole

    There has actually been a company in Australia that has been banned from a service workshop because the mechanics lifted the cab to find the engine covered in shit.

    Please tell me there is a link to that somewhere.
    Im doing a toolbox presentation tomorrow and want to put that up as a “productivity improvement” and see what reaction I get.

  32. Infidel Tiger

    Maocolm’s Performing Stick Insect’s comments on Lieboral leadership are provoking much mirth on Twitter.

    She’s done.

    She’s loved by the diamonds and botox crowd, which is why she is so popular in Curtin.

    She is a policy and achievement free zone, but she does play the backroom and fundraising game particularly well.

    I reckon it would be hilarious to make her Oppo leader in 6 months. The facade will blow up quicker a Palestinian in a gelignite factory.

  33. bespoke

    Mark A, no one likes DrBeauGan so your #3

  34. Chris

    I think the right approach is to
    1) dump the Liberals,
    2) catch the Labor and Greens MPs
    3) Establish KPIs for responsible government: we will be shortening the MPs from the lower extremities by 100mm for every % the spending exceeds the revenue, and 200mm for every % the debt increases year by year.

    Some would say to shoot some to encourage the others but I believe in rewarding good performance, and the rewards being shared equally.
    TITS-PLIBBERS-WRONG 2019!

  35. .

    The facade will blow up quicker a Palestinian in a gelignite factory.

    You mean a mouse and a bee at a schvitz.

  36. Nick

    no one likes DrBeauGan

    Really ? He’s a breath of fresh air and rationality.

  37. C.L.

    I’d give money to see Julie Bishop doing the mall and shopping centre walk-abouts in an election campaign. She’d have so much to give the average fatigued mum struggling to pay the electricity bill while picking up some snags and chops for the family.

    Bring it on.

  38. Cactus

    Who do you think has been our worst foreign minister in recent years? Objectively.
    Marise Payne isn’t nominated because she hasn’t been in the role long enough.
    Nominees below.

    Gareth Evans
    Alexander Downer
    Stephen Smith
    Kevin Rudd
    Bob Carr
    Julie Bishop

    Its not easy is it?
    Most of them like to visit Paris & NY and sell us out to the Clintons and China.
    No one really seems to have made any impact in our Asia Pacific patch on defending and advancing our interests.

  39. struth

    Please tell me there is a link to that somewhere.

    No, that’s just from inside the industry.

    It is a company that does the Nullabor to Perth and employs these guys to go depot to depot, they all pile into the truck to do the same thing one Aussie truck driver accomplishes anyway.
    They can’t steer straight, can’t reverse, can’t speak English and have no road craft.
    They don’t answer the UHF when they need to.
    Many frightening and rock throwing incidences occur when they are coming toward you and especially if you have an oversize load.
    The corruption is incredible in this situation.
    They seem to get licences to drive what takes Australians years to get up to driving, with extensive testing.
    They are excused their log books by the authorities, because they can’t write.
    It is amazing to see.
    The authorities let them get away with murder, and quite literally so…………………….

  40. Old School Conservative

    no one likes DrBeauGan

    Rubbish.
    There’s even a song to prove the opposite.

    “I don’t like BeauGan oh no
    I love him”

    There’s 10cc worth of like in there.

  41. I dropped mathematics before the HSC because I couldn’t see myself ever using polynomial division in my day-to-day life.

    The tyranny of the bourgeoisie.

  42. America has a proper highway system. Australia blows its road budget on roundabouts and speed humps.

    FFS, Gosford council spends half a million each on tarted up roundabouts when most of the peninsula is still waiting for kerbing and guttering.

  43. .

    FFS, Gosford council spends half a million each on tarted up roundabouts when most of the peninsula is still waiting for kerbing and guttering.

    monty tells us it is because of inflation, GDP growth and population growth. No money is wasted, y’see?

  44. Fred

    I live in the Labor electorate of Eltham. Under Kennett it was a Liberal seat.

    The issues I hear people talk about are crowded roads, crowded trains and useless police.

    The Liberals could win if it campaigned on these issues. No need for a LBGTI tourism taskforce or free televisions.

  45. DrBeauGan

    no one likes DrBeauGan

    That’s because I’m a smartarse. And a smartarse who beat you into third place this morning.

  46. America has a proper highway system. Australia blows its road budget on roundabouts and speed humps.

    And fscken traffic lights.
    Dannograd has to be the most traffic lighted city in the world!
    Far worse than Sydeneye.

  47. Notafan

    here is is

    useless little girl police

  48. Roger:

    US employers are struggling to fill roles because they can’t get enough people to pass drug tests.

    That war on drugs is doing so bloody well, isn’t it?
    It has cost our society untold billions in just about everything, and the problem hasn’t even been touched – it’s gotten worse. And the money is causing an even greater problem with the crims having just about every judge, politician and public service senior bureaucrat dancing to their tune.
    Sounds like a subject for its own thread.

  49. H B Bear

    Thanks for the vid Custard. I hope Bernardi is successful but you know the media will be working overtime to ensure that that doesn’t happen.

  50. monty tells us it is because of inflation, GDP growth and population growth. No money is wasted, y’see?

    Muttley excuses it?

    OMG, it’s worse than I thought! 🤯

  51. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #2874286, posted on November 28, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    no one likes DrBeauGan
    That’s because I’m a smartarse. And a smartarse who beat you into third place this morning.

  52. calli

    Oh here you all are. 🙂

  53. avo’ calli.
    sheelas welcome here.
    on merit. no quotas

  54. JC

    God’s made a yuge mistake and only has himself to blame. Now he’s critical of Powell’s appointment, but not only that, he’s mouthing off about a gut feel. He appointed Powell, who is a lawyer as Fed chairman. Stupid as.

    Trump told the Post, “So far, I’m not even a little bit happy with my selection of Jay,” who he appointed earlier this year. The president told the newspaper that he thinks the U.S. central bank is “way off-base with what they’re doing.”

    The Federal Reserve has been raising interest rates as the U.S. economy picks up, but the Post reported that Trump argued these rate hikes were hurting the U.S. economy. The Post also said he blamed the Fed for the recent stock market sell-off and General Motors’ plans to close plants and cut more than 14,000 jobs.

    “I’m doing deals and I’m not being accommodated by the Fed,” Trump told the Post. “They’re making a mistake because I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else’s brain can ever tell me.”

    As a trader blog says, the Fed will raise rates now to demonstrate independence. Trump needs to shut the duck up at times.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    That’s because I’m a smartarse. And a smartarse who beat you into third place this morning.

    “Golly” is indeed an eminent mathematical observation.
    Whereas I spent 10 minutes assembling a comment about crapping Lego just to add something more substantial to the thread.

  56. triggered

    So the Libs split and The Conservative Party is formed.

    What federal seats would it win?

  57. .

    Bruce

    That old thread where Bill-Bee tried to fob off an analysis you did by “jetting off on Friday” and making no sense at all, then spamming a post with a table of NPV values was pretty damned hilarious.

    Solar makes so much sense that there are no blackouts in South Australia, you see.

  58. Bruce. You can’t argue with the science.
    97% of cats agree that placings in a new thread are a true measure of intellect.

  59. Rockdoctor:

    Another 40 deg day in NQ. Dry heat from NW winds though so very tolerable, just waiting for the sea breezes to kick in or the predicted storms start popping up… Oh and next week GFS throwing up a cyclone in Coral Sea… One extreme to the other, fun & games…

    Yep. Dust storm here, visibility steadily getting worse – mind you, it’s bugger all to what it can be.

  60. .

    “They’re making a mistake because I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else’s brain can ever tell me.”

    This alienates anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with him.

    Poor optics.

  61. calli

    That’s because I’m a smartarse.

    Hardly the odd Cat out. 😺

  62. Bruce of Newcastle

    The president told the newspaper that he thinks the U.S. central bank is “way off-base with what they’re doing.”

    JC – Trump is correct. The Fed religiously raises or lowers by 25bp. But these days the sensitivity to interest rates is much higher because of high gearing. So Powell should be moving 10bp each month, not 25bp.

    It makes sense because the relative rise of a 25bp move is 10% compared to a 2.5% base rate. So coupon payouts can change 10% in a month. That is a serious and chunky cash flow change to businesses. The rate of interest rate changes is ‘way too high for the absolute interest level.

    Our local banks have broken the mould of the RB and now are doing ‘out of cycle’ moves of around the 10bp level. That also reflect the actual changes in cost of money to them, not the RB’s imaginary number.

  63. Arky:

    Why can’t Australians build roads?
    Why do you insist on making them flat in a country that has frequent downpours?
    You have to build them with camber such that the water drains off.
    Why isn’t this obvious? What is wrong with you lot? Are you all retarded?

    Have you forgotten so quickly, you ignorant dill?
    The water in Australia is a different temperature to everywhere else, and it goes the wrong way!

  64. Makka

    Another 40 deg day in NQ.

    The build up in the north can be a real biatch. Let’s hope for a good old fashioned wet.

  65. You have to build them with camber such that the water drains off.

    Pfft. Old fashioned. The Romans used to do that 2000 years ago.
    And look now at the state of the roads they built !

  66. Infidel Tiger

    Trump should be happy they are raising rates.

    They’ll lower them when the economy tanks.

  67. calli

    Had to turn off QT. The SLF was rabbitting on about “violence against women”. He’s become bold about it, knowing noone can touch him on his own misdemeanours.

    That was after some footage of Sea Patrol bleating about insulting, horrid Mean Men as she systematically insulted them.

    There must be no mirrors in either chamber of PH.

  68. calli

    On second thoughts, who would want to touch him on his misdemeanours.

  69. H B Bear

    calli provided you steer clear of any Young Labor camps you should be OK.

  70. .

    You are talking about the adjustment to the degree of subsidy to welfare queens.

    Hi Graeme.

  71. Infidel Tiger

    Graeme is right.

    Corporatism and the parasites attached must be eradicated.

  72. Twostix

    Obnoxiously noisy hr woman in cafe explaining to an (foreign) interviewee that her hr company is getting out of dealing with the shrinking energy sector and into the rapid growth not for profit sector.

    Reels off stats about the coming explosion in large not for profits thanks to parliament legislation citing ndis, etc.

    God help us.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mike – The RB and Fed rates feed into the interest rates that large corporates pay in corporate bonds. Which in turn affects major investment decisions. A 25bp move has a big impact on such decisions, which can mean billions to the national GDP.

    Small business pays ‘way higher than the Reserve rate because the risk is much higher. The banks aren’t gouging SMEs, they’re just doing actuarial calcs on the costs of failed loans to small business, which is a horridly risky prospect for them. The RB makes it even harder for the banks to lend to SMEs by forcing a 100% provision requirement upon them for SME loans, unlike mortgages which only attract a 25% provision requirement. So the banks lend overwhelmingly to the real estate market not to SMEs – because of a single arbitrary bureaucratic decision.

    The best thing Canberra could do is reduce red tape for small businesses and cut things like electricity prices, which are a very high cost item for them. That would lower their risk of business failure. But they won’t do it because small business is a class-enemy of the elite progressives.

  74. zyconoclast

    Democrats Have Made One Thing Very Clear About 2020: They’re Over White Men
    Or, why Kamala Harris looks like a likely nominee.

    Democrats’ desire for diversity is increasingly apparent. Democratic voters nominated an unprecedented 180 female candidates in House primaries, as well as 133 people of color, including Native American and Muslim American candidates. Democrats also nominated 21 openly LGBT candidates for Congress. For the first time in the party’s history, white men were a minority in the House Democratic candidate pool. And while election officials are still tallying votes in several states, the Democrats’ incoming class of House members reflects the diversity of their candidate pool.

  75. zyconoclast

    School principal issues apology after students say Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish

    CHANTILLY, Va. – A Fairfax County high school principal is apologizing after a plan to have students say the Pledge of Allegiance in different languages was not well-received.

  76. H B Bear

    Without a for-profit sector there is no not-for-profit sector.

    Quite a few people don’t get this.

  77. .

    Or, why Kamala Harris looks like a likely nominee.

    Indeed. I still rate Maggie Hassan’s chances. Maybe that would be the ticket, Harris/Hassan?

    Thank god Oprah still isn’t spreading her totally unchecked “9000 penises” rumours and shilling for Scientologists.

  78. Des Deskperson

    Here is the list of State and Territory nominees for Australian of the Year 2019:.

    https://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/honour-roll/?view=landing&year=2019

    To summarise:

    ACT: Virginia Haussegger, Feminist newsreader and para -academic
    NSW: Kurt Fearnley, Wheelchair racer and disability advocate
    NT: Michael Long, former AFL footballer and Indigenous activist
    QLD: Jon Rouse, Police investigator of crimes against children
    SA: Richard Harris, Thai cave rescuer
    TAS: Bernadette Black, support of and advocate for teenage parents
    WA: Craig Challen, Thai cave rescuer

    All seemingly worthy enough except Haussegger, who has already been extremely well rewarded in terms of money, fame, praise and contacts, just the sort of person who shouldn’t be nominated, but she ‘s a feminist and her hubby is an ace fairfax leftist. The fact that Haussegger didn’t decline the honour in favour of any one of the scads of ACT women that are more deserving but poorer and less photogenic than her says a lot.

    The two cave divers stand out – genuinely selfless and brave as well as popular – and separating them will be a challenge. There may be a case for a joint award.

    Expect feminists to scream about the 5 to two ratio in favour of men in the nominees.

  79. John Constantine

    Stretching the legs at a truck stop in rural australia nowadays you can actually see the diversity trucks pull over and the cab empty out of cousins.

    All off to the dunnies for a flush and to souvineer a few rolls of bog paper.

    Fill up the drink bottles from the garden tap for free [ thereby locking in the need for dunny paper because dodgy water]

    Pile back in the truck not having spent a cent, not even fueling up, and away drives the future of Australia.

    Meanwhile the dismal harvest is being carted in victoria without an announced zero tolerance purge of farm trucks, but there seems to be a lot of inspections going on if you are a stale pale male seasonal grain truck driver.

    Safe Trucks Comrades, all unionised, diversity , trained, accredited and holding the steering wheel for Big Crony donors getting their bribe moneys worth.

    Not the drivers and passengers fault, they have been deliberately sought out by australias political class from the worlds decivilised Tyrannies to deal with the pollution that is the western industrial civilisation the anglosphere corrupted wild australia with.

    When did we vote to replace owner driver english speaking truckies with poor bastards that can’t go backwards or read ‘low bridge ahead’ signs?.

  80. thefrolickingmole

    Joint award for the cave blokes would be good.
    Though there are a few others deserving as well.

  81. Cactus

    Des Deskperson – that actually looks like a good list.
    Still think the award should be scrapped. But if can go to someone who has done extraordinary things and doesn’t already get the trappings of fame and fortune then that’s better.
    Just don’t wanna get lectured for the next 12 months by anyone.

  82. calli

    AOTY still not weary of “activists” and “advocates”.

    Nice to see a pair of “doers” rather than “mouthers” on the list.

  83. zyconoclast

    When does she write a column about the group that easily has the highest rate of hate crime?

    Waiting…

    Crime lingers around white nationalism and as a J3wish-American woman, I feel terrified.
    For one thing, white nationalists aren’t hiding anymore, and for another, they have successfully changed their approach.

    Full disclosure, I’m only half J3wish. My mother is not J3wish so some may claim that I am in fact not really J3wish, but my status is not up for debate with white nationalists. To them, I have the blood so, therefore, I am tainted.

  84. Top Ender

    our worst foreign minister in recent years?

    Easier to give them points for doing something, and see:

    Gareth Evans: 2
    Alexander Downer: 3 for swanning around London, but at least he got the Brits to notice Australia, even though they probably thought he was an escaped colonial squatter
    Stephen Smith: 0. (Wasn’t he Defence Minister for five minutes?)
    Kevin Rudd: minus 2 for annoying everyone who had to listen to him
    Bob Carr: 2. At least he gave us a laugh with his steel-cut oats and Pilates.
    Julie Bishop: 2

    3/10 for the winner. Not even up to a pass for the $300k a year or whatever it is.

  85. DrBeauGan

    Stretching the legs at a truck stop in rural australia nowadays you can actually see the diversity trucks pull over and the cab empty out of cousins.

    All off to the dunnies for a flush and to souvineer a few rolls of bog paper.

    Wow! This is progress! They’ve learnt what dunnies are for.

  86. zyconoclast

    Home, the most dangerous place for women, with majority of female homicide victims worldwide killed by partners or family, UNODC study says

    “While the vast majority of homicide victims are men, women continue to pay the highest price as a result of gender inequality, discrimination and negative stereotypes. They are also the most likely to be killed by intimate partners and family,” said UNODC Executive Director Yury Fedotov.

    In terms of geographical distribution, Africa and the Americas are the regions where women are most at risk of being killed by intimate partners or family members. In Africa, the rate was around 3.1 victims per 100,000 female population, while the rate in the Americas was 1.6 victims, in Oceania 1.3 and in Asia 0.9. The lowest rate was found in Europe, with 0.7 victims per 100,000 female population.

  87. Makka

    Alexander Downer: 3 for swanning around London, but at least he got the Brits to notice Australia, even though they probably thought he was an escaped colonial squatter

    I wouldn’t feed Downer one of mOron’s donuts if he was starving to death.

  88. Boambee John

    Asked how she envisioned a world where women had equal footing, Ms Bishop asked the audience: “Has anyone seen the latest series of House of Cards, episode five? Say no more.”

    So she envisions a fictional world? All becomes clear. Was there any political backstabbing in the series?

  89. zyconoclast

    Dual nationality Turks being stripped of citizenship by far-Right in Austria’s

    In a campaign orchestrated by the far-Right Freedom Party (FPÖ), hundreds of Austrians of Turkish heritage are currently under investigation by the authorities on suspicion of illegally holding dual citizenship – and authorities say they may widen their investigations to thousands more.

    Eighty-five have so far been stripped of their citizenship, but human rights campaigners say the case against them rests on suspect evidence.

  90. Nick

    Expect feminists to scream about the 5 to two ratio in favour of men in the nominees.

    Strange that feminists were silent regarding female ratios among both those lost in the cave and their rescuers.

  91. Nick

    I wouldn’t feed Downer one of mOron’s donuts if he was starving to death.

    I’d be surprised if there were any left to give

  92. zyconoclast

    German prosecutors charge Chinese-born engineer in industrial espionage case

    COLOGNE, Germany (Reuters) – German prosecutors are pressing criminal charges against a former employee of chemicals maker Lanxess for allegedly stealing trade secrets to set up a Chinese copycat chemical reactor.

    There have been several reports in Germany of manufacturers with operations in China catching local staff doing work for copycat rivals. But the alleged data theft at Lanxess is a rare case in which a suspected leak has been identified at home.

  93. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #2874272, posted on November 28, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    I’d give money to see Julie Bishop doing the mall and shopping centre walk-abouts in an election campaign.

    Are there malls and shopping centres in her electorate, or just small boutique specialty shops?

    But seriously, her electorate illustrates my point about rich electorates that were once Liberal strongholds when the Greens were communist and Labor truly represented the working class going Green/Labor left now that both parties represent the interests of the bureaucratic middle class, which interests are incompatible with the cultural conservatism of many Australians.

  94. Des Deskperson

    ‘Who do you think has been our worst foreign minister in recent years? Objectively.
    Marise Payne isn’t nominated because she hasn’t been in the role long enough.

    Gareth Evans
    Alexander Downer
    Stephen Smith
    Kevin Rudd
    Bob Carr
    Julie Bishop’

    An academic question, since almost anybody could do what is by far the easiest job in Cabinet. Even Tony Street and Bill Hayden managed to do the job at least adequately. Evans probably deserves the biggest kick in the butt by perpetuating and strengthening the myths that (a) you had to be as smart as him (?) to navigate the complexities of international relations and (b) what Australia did and said on the world stage actually mattered.

    DFAT insiders, however, tell me that Bishop stands out for her particular laziness, fickleness and incompetence.

  95. John Constantine

    Sydney parking inspectors now with the power to issue demerit points on top of parking fines.

    Body armour and semi automatic rifles next.

  96. Boambee John

    Reels off stats about the coming explosion in large not for profits thanks to parliament legislation citing ndis, etc.

    They might be theoretically “not for profit”, but their top staff make very healthy incomes, see Costello, Tim.

    Perhaps it is the high executive salaries that ensure that no profit is made?

  97. Senile Old Guy

    You’re not allowed to hand in a draft and ask for feedback before the due date. That’s “cheating”, somehow…?

    It is not cheating and a sensible teacher would allow it.

    It simply is not allowed in universities.

    BS. It is certainly allowed. The important thing is that it must be clearly stated what the rules and requirements are.

  98. Des Deskperson

    ‘DFAT insiders, however, tell me that Bishop stands out for her particular laziness, fickleness and incompetence.’

    Shoulda been ‘fecklessness’, although ‘fickleness’ probably also fits the bill.

  99. Nick

    Climate science Australia:

    Sydney downpour a once in a 100-year event

    Must be bad

    The Bureau of Meteorology’s NSW manager Ann Farrell said Sydney copped more than 100 millimetres of rain in less than two hours at the Observatory Hill station this morning – the wettest daily total the site has recorded since 1984.

    According to our estimates, for that intensity and that duration, that’s the sort of rainfall you’d expect to occur about once every 100 years for that particular site,” she said.

    Yep. It’s the ‘science’ of feelz.

  100. Boambee John

    Bruce of N

    But they won’t do it because small business is a class-enemy of the elite progressives.

    Menzies “forgotten people” forgotten again?

    There are votes out there for a genuinely conservative party, but most of the present grouping are intellectual snobs who treasure their invitations to the “right” (not in the political sense) dinner parties.

  101. Cactus

    Ken Henry seems to have cut a very grumpy figure at the Royal Commission.

  102. Baldrick

    Sydney downpour a once in a 100-year event

    Colloquially known as a ‘Flannery’.

  103. H B Bear

    Faaark – moderation again.

  104. Nick

    Colloquially known as a ‘Flannery’.

    Yeah. Strange that the ‘it’s a sign from Gaia’ brigade who whine of such portents each time it rains, never think about Flannery.

  105. H B Bear

    Sydney downpour a once in a 100-year event

    The Green-Left Radio (now) Half Hour formerly known as The World Today is onto it. Sydney rain is not Global Warming but still plenty of scary stuff coming your way proles.

    Repent your carbon polluting sins. Oh … and give us your money.

  106. .

    BS. It is certainly allowed. The important thing is that it must be clearly stated what the rules and requirements are.

    It was never allowed at the universities I attended.

    I chalk some of it up to laziness of academics.

  107. Cactus

    In response to Nick and climate and feelz

    Yes I find it beyond a joke that every weather event gets conflated into “worst eva” or “1-100 year” event. I think it must be an extension of narcissism we now have. Everyone is special and what ever is happening to you has never happened before.

    My cousin in Brisbane was remarking on this when they had a bit of rain a couple of years back. The State Government declared it an emergency and basically declared it a public holiday. Stay home. Indoors. Safe. It was an absolute joke. He decided to go to Dan Murphys to pick up some Bundy and they were even being told to close up at midday from head office. He just casually asked the server if it had been busy at all that morning? Yup manic. Everyone using it to have BBQ’s and get pissed.

  108. Natural Instinct

    From Des Deskperson at 2:46pm

    ACT: Virginia Haussegger, Feminist newsreader and para -academic
    .
    All seemingly worthy enough except Haussegger, who has already been extremely well rewarded in terms of money, fame, praise and contacts, just the sort of person who shouldn’t be nominated, but she ‘s a feminist and her hubby is an ace fairfax leftist. The fact that Haussegger didn’t decline the honour in favour of any one of the scads of ACT women that are more deserving but poorer and less photogenic than her says a lot.
    .
    Some history

    A graduate of Melbourne University, Virginia began her journalism career as an ABC TV News cadet in 1986. A skilled interviewer, she went on to become the youngest woman to host the ABC’s flagship current affairs program the 7.30 Report, and has worked as a reporter and presenter of that program in four capital cities.

    In the early 90s Virginia moved to commercial TV reporting for A Current Affair on Channel 9, and later Network 7’s Witness, as Senior Reporter.

    In 2001, after working in the corporate sector as a communications specialist with Cosway Australia, Virginia returned to broadcasting as news anchor in Canberra where she was the face of ABC TV News in the national capital until late 2016.
    [a news reader for 15 years means diddly squat]

    Virginia is widely published across Australian print media, previously as a weekly columnist in The Canberra Times, and contributor to The Age and Sydney Morning Herald
    [one left-of-centre media group, like a home away from home for ex ABC]

    Virginia’s seminal article on feminism and childlessness was ranked by The Age newspaper as among the most significant opinion pieces published in its 150 year history
    [they are joking aren’t they].
    Her book Wonder Woman: The myth of ‘having it all’ was launched in a live broadcast at the National Press Club in 2005.

    In 2009 Virginia made a self-funded trip to Afghanistan to highlight the plight of women and children. And in 2011 she curated the exhibition “Eye On Afghanistan”, to raise funds for the Australian based NGO Mahboba’s Promise. She later featured in the multi-award winning documentary, ‘Love Marriage in Kabul’ by Amin Palangi.
    [And achieved what? Outcomes please.]

    Virginia is the recipient of various awards including, the United Nations Association Media Peace Prize for coverage of Indigenous Affairs: Penguin Award for Current Affairs Excellence; and Toastmasters Communicator of the Year ACT (2007). (And achieved what? Outcomes please.)

    .

    In late 2016 Virginia was appointed to head a new gender equality initiative, the 50/50 by 2030 Foundation, at the University of Canberra’s Institute for Governance and Policy Analysis (IGPA), where she is an Adjunct Professor. With a singular focus on improving the representation of women in leadership and key decision making roles across all levels of government and public administration, the Foundation is the first of its kind in Australia.
    [back on the government payroll]

  109. jupes

    Who do you think has been our worst foreign minister in recent years? Objectively.
    Marise Payne isn’t nominated because she hasn’t been in the role long enough.
    Nominees below.

    Gareth Evans
    Alexander Downer
    Stephen Smith
    Kevin Rudd
    Bob Carr
    Julie Bishop

    Its not easy is it?

    Far out. Check out that list. What a bunch of self-serving, pompous arseholes.

    That, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect snapshot of how bereft of talent and patriotism our politicians have been for the last few decades.

  110. jupes

    To varying degrees every one them would put the UN before Australia. A fair chunk of them put the Clinton Foundation before Australia.

    One of them, while sucking on the teat of our deep state, even colluded with the deep state of two countries to destroy a US presidential candidate.

    Incredible stuff!

  111. calli

    Chuckle. I don’t recall gingerbread people having discernable genitals.

    Strategically placed Smarties might help.

  112. calli

    I always iced mine with trousers. Standards must be maintained!

  113. DrBeauGan

    That, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect snapshot of how bereft of talent and patriotism our politicians have been for the last few decades.

    The list of prime ministers would be at least as depressing.

  114. Senile Old Guy

    BS. It is certainly allowed. The important thing is that it must be clearly stated what the rules and requirements are.

    It was never allowed at the universities I attended.

    I chalk some of it up to laziness of academics.

    You don’t have a clue. It actually requires more work from the academic. The item has to be assessed twice, and feedback taken into account when marking. It is far easier to not allow the practice.

  115. DrBeauGan

    The list of prime ministers would be at least as depressing.

    Or the cabinet secretaries. Much smarter and better educated than the politicians, but nothing like as smart and educated as they needed to be. Or thought they were.

  116. Nick

    You don’t have a clue. It actually requires more work from the academic. The item has to be assessed twice, and feedback taken into account when marking. It is far easier to not allow the practice.

    Yep.

  117. .

    You don’t have a clue. It actually requires more work from the academic. The item has to be assessed twice, and feedback taken into account when marking. It is far easier to not allow the practice.

    That is exactly the point I just made. You’re just being salty now.

  118. Senile Old Guy

    You don’t have a clue. It actually requires more work from the academic. The item has to be assessed twice, and feedback taken into account when marking. It is far easier to not allow the practice.

    That is exactly the point I just made. You’re just being salty now.

    Then try and be clear because that is not how I read your comment.

  119. Notafan

    The descent escalates

    #thatdidnttakelong

  120. calli

    Ahhhhh. Now I know who he’s talking about.

  121. .

    Then try and be clear because that is not how I read your comment.

    Haha, sure.

  122. Top Ender

    Isn’t the bloke who stuck two fingers, well one, up to the law once before?

    Former Manly NRL star John Hopoate was arrested for driving on a suspended licence on Tuesday — a day before he was due to front court on two previous charges of driving while suspended.

    Hopoate, 45, of Dee Why, was in Manly Local Court on Wednesday to answer charges that earlier this year he drove a truck and a four-wheel-drive vehicle after his licence had been taken away from him.

    No mention of it in the article.

  123. .

    Its hard to believe that such people exist, and surely we would get rid of them if we could.

    It ain’t 1942 and this ain’t Berlin.

  124. H B Bear

    Gareth Evans
    Alexander Downer
    Stephen Smith
    Kevin Rudd
    Bob Carr
    Julie Bishop

    Jebus. What a collection of frauds, pissants, head cases, ego maniacs and troughers. Tough to pick a winner. Luckily they are essentially irrelevant.

  125. Makka

    It ain’t 1942 and this ain’t Berlin.

    Right, so deporting moslem child mutilators is Nazism? You really do love these guys. Explains why you want more here.

  126. Notafan

    Makka you have it wrong

    Bird isn’t talking about muslims

  127. .

    You are possibly more deluded than Bird Makka.

    He doesn’t give a shit about Muslims. There is only one reason why he is here.

  128. .

    In fact, Bird is probably a possible convert. He loves Sharia banking.

  129. Rockdoctor

    Storm just came through, not much rain enough though to send the humidity from 30-90% though. QAS chopper did about 4 circles over the northern beaches dodging lightning bolts. Yuk now it is hot & humid. Round 2 is in the form up point hopefully has more rain. Might have to quench the thirst soon…

  130. Des Deskperson

    ‘Her book Wonder Woman: The myth of ‘having it all’ was launched in a live broadcast at the National Press Club in 2005.’

    I once dipped into it while baby-sitting for friends; Oh, the angst and trials of the feminist bourgeoise progressive; narcissistic, self indulgent, only marginally coherent and mostly unreadable.

    ‘In late 2016 Virginia was appointed to head a new gender equality initiative, the 50/50 by 2030 Foundation, at the University of Canberra’s Institute for Governance and Policy Analysis (IGPA), where she is an Adjunct Professor’.

    Here’s the website.

    http://www.5050foundation.edu.au

    It’s pretty thin stuff, mostly links to the work of other organisations with not much original research and analysis, it looks suspiciously like a sinecure. Anyway, what could a newsreader contribute to ‘Governance and Policy Analysis’, even at the fourth rate academy like the UC?

  131. Why pick on the Germans?

    WW II – say no more
    WW I – butchery of civilians in Belgium and France.

    A 30 year habit.

  132. Makka

    I noted this reference;

    Take the fight to the terrorist community and the savages first. Hit them hard with massive punishments.

    This clarified it.

    The difference between the terrorist community and the Muslims is that the Muslims sometimes take responsibility for their own behaviour.

    There is only one reason why he is here.

    Ok dotty, I withdraw somewhat.

  133. JC

    Don’t start Birdie on the advantages of Sharia banking.

  134. is that the Muslims sometimes take responsibility for their own behaviour.

    aaaahahahahahahahahahaha

    Champagne Comedy

  135. Makka

    In fact, Bird is probably a possible convert. He loves Sharia banking.

    That’s funny.

    Graeme , get to the point – what’s your beef with them?

  136. Rae

    Yes I find it beyond a joke that every weather event gets conflated into “worst eva” or “1-100 year” event. I think it must be an extension of narcissism we now have. Everyone is special and what ever is happening to you has never happened before.

    For those who are overly sensitive to climate change, global warming issues (both for and against) it must seem so. But, the reality is that the “1 in a 100/50/20 years” terminology has been in common use in relation to weather events for far longer than the climate issues have been topical. This is particularly so for floods and flood management. Arcing up about it is pointless.

  137. Natural Instinct

    Des is this counted as research in this day and age now?

    This report presents the findings derived from a national survey of 2,122 Australians about their attitudes to issues of sexism and gender inequality. The survey was conducted online in March 2018, with participants recruited from a combination of online panels and via social media advertising.

    What a little hot bed of “correct” thinking researchers… no biases here

    As Tim Enthoven observes, just a short time ago liberal democracies around the world were viewed to be moving inexorably towards a gender neutral future with the election of Hillary Clinton to the American presidency representing an international consensus on gender equality. Then in a dramatic turn of events a man perceived to be the symbol of western male misogyny was nudged into power without winning the popular vote…..
    The depressing news from our survey is that Australia appears to be following the trend. Not only did the Australian Liberal Party fail to replace its outgoing leader and Prime Minister with a politician perceived by many to be the most qualified and popular person for the job, Julie Bishop ….

  138. P

    Mississippi U.S. Senate Seat won by Republican Cindy Hyde-Smith 55-45.

  139. Tom

    Confirmed 53-47 Senate majority means RINOs like Murkowski, Collins and Romney will find it almost impossible to derail POTUS45’s remaking of the US judiciary:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Congratulations to Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith on your big [runoff] WIN in the Great State of Mississippi. We are all very proud of you!

  140. JC

    When you think about it, the western version of Sharia banking are the private equity firms.

  141. stackja

    Sydney area roads flooded and fallen trees blocking roads. Climate change!

  142. JC

    Thank fuck, the sheila won the Mississippi seat. You go girl.

  143. Myrddin Seren

    Secret police study finds crime networks could have laundered over $1B through Vancouver homes in 2016

    While the study only looked at property purchases in 2016, an analysis by Global News suggests the same extended crime network may have laundered about $5-billion in Vancouver-area homes since 2012.

    At the centre of the money laundering ring is a powerful China-based gang called the Big Circle Boys. Its top level “kingpins” are the international drug traffickers who are profiting most from Canada’s deadly fentanyl crisis.

    The crime network, according to police intelligence sources, is a fluid coalition of hundreds of wealthy criminals in Metro Vancouver, including gangsters, industrialists, financial fugitives and corrupt officials from China.

    The common link among them is an underground banking scheme in which Chinese VIP gamblers and gangster associates secretly transfer money between China and Richmond, B.C*., in order to fund fentanyl imports and trafficking in Canada.

    One expert said Canadians would be stunned to learn how many of Vancouver’s homes have been built on drug money since the 1990s, when heroin from Hong Kong and China started flooding into Vancouver and Toronto.

    * Richmond, B.C. ? We have looked at Richmond before recently

    A major local government area in Vancouver – Richmond – is having local government elections. Over half the residents in Richmond are Chinese. One Han-Canadian candidate for Mayor is not even pretending she isn’t an arm of the CPC:

    Richmond mayoral candidate says “there is no human rights abuse in China”.

    Aannnd it would be any different here – because ? Anyone – Dan Andrews ??

    ( h/t SDA ).

  144. Makka

    She’s coughing up a lung;

  145. .

    “WW II – say no more
    WW I – butchery of civilians in Belgium and France.

    A 30 year habit.”

    All lies. Ahistorical stupidity.

    Wow. This is real life Graeme, not a silly prank naming a new soda beverage.

  146. Aannnd it would be any different here – because ? Anyone – Dan Andrews ??

    A friend of mine who lives inner Bayside, reckons the flash houses and cars in his suburb aren’t purchased with the proceeds of honest toil.

  147. P

    Thank fuck, the sheila won the Mississippi seat. You go girl.

    I’ve read a suggestion saying that the GOP is likely to come away with 53 seats in the Senate, and therefore predicts Amy Coney Barrett will be the replacement for Justice Ginsburg.

  148. No probs dot, he will make the mistake of uttering the words in Louvain whilst on holiday.

  149. OldOzzie

    Cactus
    #2874365, posted on November 28, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    Ken Henry seems to have cut a very grumpy figure at the Royal Commission.

    A flippant Ken Henry could prove a liability at NAB

    Ken Henry’s failure yesterday to meet the simple test set for him by the royal commission raises the question how much longer he can continue as chairman of NAB.

    All that counsel assisting, Rowena Orr, QC, wanted — all that the commission ever wants from its witnesses — was for Henry to listen to the questions she asked and answer them.

    Instead, an arrogant Henry disrespected Orr and the commission by trying to bully her.

    The attempt failed — Orr is made of tougher stuff — but it was an angry, dismissive, snide and flippant performance.

    Henry was angry when asked what better way there was to demonstrate intolerance of customer rip-offs than reducing the bonus pool.

    “Well, we could have fired everybody, I suppose,” he snapped.

    He was dismissive when asked if the board had done enough to question chief executive Andrew Thorburn on why his executive team shouldn’t get a pay cut in 2016 because changes were being made to fix the bank’s compliance woes.

    “Yes. I think we did,” he said. “Mmm, I do.”

    He was snide when Orr challenged him on why chief legal ­officer Sharon Cook’s interactions with the Australian Securities & Investments Commission over the fee-for-no-service saga — interactions that culminated in September with the regulator suing the bank — were appropriate.

    “We’ve been through them,” he said.

    Orr thought they hadn’t.

    “You don’t,” Henry said. “No.”

    “No. No. You wouldn’t.”

    And he was flippant when Orr asked why the board risk committee wasn’t told in August 2015 that the bank’s fee-for-no-service problem was one previously not flagged.

    “If you’re saying should the chief risk officer have said, well there may have been a breach, OK, fine,” he said. “Perhaps.”

    Orr tried to pin him down, but Henry stuck to his ambiguous guns.

    “Back to where we started, perhaps, Dr Henry?” she asked.

    “Yes, perhaps,” he said.

    Orr said she still didn’t understand the reason for his hesitation.

    “I probably can’t explain it to you,” Henry breezily responded.

    It might have been expected that Henry would have learned from the experiences of NAB’s former wealth boss Andrew Hagger, who was lauded for his fancy footwork over two stints in the stand.

    Back then, it was conventional wisdom in some circles that counsel assisting, Michael Hodge, QC, didn’t land a clean hit on Hagger during his second appointment with commissioner Kenneth Hayne.

    But that’s not how it works. Cross examination is not a boxing match; it is a rigged contest in which the barrister strikes at the witnesses’ pressure points like some kind of anime martial artist.

    In the cartoons, the victim drops dead later, sometimes after gloating about how little damage has been done. And at the royal commission, a month later Hagger was gone from National Australia Bank.

    Over the past two days both Henry and Thorburn have appeared keen to throw Hagger under the bus, deflecting blame for the bank’s myriad woes away from anyone still standing within the executive circle of trust. But it seems Henry hasn’t listened and learned from Hagger’s fate.

    Henry’s apparent unwillingness to listen to bad news and learn from it would seem something of a handicap for a chairman, who is supposed to be the ultimate circuit-breaker in a company — the last-resort outlet for whistleblowers, the person who steps in when CEOs go haywire, the guiding hand on the governance tiller.

    But his fate ultimately lies in the hands of the bank’s shareholders, who, as the very existence of the royal commission shows, have been slow to recognise the dangers to their investment posed by executives blind to misconduct, greed and laziness.

    Shareholders are, however, generally quite good at telling the difference between an asset and a liability. Those watching Henry’s performance yesterday shouldn’t have any difficulty figuring out which category to put him in.

  150. .

    Why does Carmilla have a yellow bow tie and why does she have tuberculosis?

    I wanna know how Alex Jones feels about the undead being susceptible to pathogens.

  151. Atoms for Peace., ,

    An inability to accept responsibility is very widespread these days.

  152. DrBeauGan

    Wow. This is real life Graeme, not a silly prank naming a new soda beverage.

    Yeah, I thought it was bird, too. Mathematical and technical ignorance combined with smugness and an unwarranted sense of intellectual superiority. It’s his tell.

  153. OldOzzie

    Lion Air Boeing 737 plane that crashed ‘shouldn’t have been allowed to fly

    The Boeing 737 Max 8 that crashed off Indonesia last month should not have been allowed to fly on October 29, after experiencing serious technical problems the day before.

    That is the key finding of the preliminary report released today by the National Transportation Safety Committee of Indonesia, following the crash that killed all 189 people on board.

    The report detailed the flight on October 28 from Denpasar to Jakarta, which experienced the problem of automatic nose trim commands, making the 737 Max difficult to control.

    Despite the issues, the engineer in Jakarta did not brief the pilot of flight JT610 about the “very serious” problems with the expectation that he would read the maintenance log.

    It was revealed the pilots on the previous flight ran through several checklists to overcome the issues with the automatic nose down commands, thought to have been triggered by erroneous information from an angle of attack sensor.

    A statement from Boeing said it was not known if the pilots in the cockpit of flight JT610 carried out the same procedures.

    “Data from the flight data recorder summarised in the report makes clear that, as on the previous flight, the aeroplane experienced automatic nose down trim (commands forcing the nose the aircraft down),” said the statement.

    “In response, the flight crew repeatedly commanded nose up trim. This sequence repeated for the remainder of the flight during which the flight crew was able to maintain control of the aeroplane for approximately ten minutes.”

    The statement went onto say it was unclear if the pilot performed the “runaway stabiliser” procedure or cut out the stabiliser trim switches which should have overcome the issues with the automatic nose down trim, controlled by a system known as MCAS.

    “Boeing appreciates Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee for its ongoing efforts to investigate the causes of the accident,” the statement said.

    “Boeing is taking every measure to fully understand all aspects of this accident, working closely with the US National Transportation Safety Board as technical advisers to support the NTSC as the investigation continues.”

    Although the flight data recorder has been retrieved, search crews are yet to locate the cockpit voice recorder which will reveal just how the pilots responded to the unfolding crisis.

    There is much at stake for Boeing which has seen its share price plummet in the weeks after the crash, and revelations pilots were not aware of the MCAS implications in certain conditions.

    Today’s statement emphasised the culture of safety at Boeing and said customers and passengers of the 737 Max, should be assured the aircraft was “as safe as any other to have flown the skies”.

    The NTSC report recommended pilots “familiarise themselves better with operating manuals and ensure all operation documents be properly filled out and documented”.

  154. Notafan

    I wonder if Orr had been male they would have claimed Henry was trying to bully her?

    I’m sick of the personal observations that have replaced reporting the news.

  155. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Made a comment at end of the old fred re Sinc putting up traffic numbers for the Cat:

    The numbers were smaller then, we used to have only one new forum each week with fewer new pages too.

    My remembrance of times past got swamped by a new fred.
    Telling, in its own way. 🙂

  156. Natural Instinct

    Late Night Live last night
    .
    First Bruce Shapiro’s fake news.

    Will Bruce Shapiro be reversing his 10 minute smirking, snarking diatribe against Trump and his supported candidate?
    56 to 44 seems a fairly good win, so not a “roiling trouble spot for the president”

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith on your big WIN in the Great State of Mississippi. We are all very proud of you!
    37.2K, 2:42 PM – Nov 28, 2018

    So more tax dollars wasted feeding the left-wing media. The sad thing is that my parents “trust” the ABC and my children are fed this rubbish at school via Behind the News program everyday, all with my taxes.

  157. During the first few days of hostilities, whilst German forces were moving through Belgium on their way to France, troops occupied and ravaged the historic Belgian city of Leuven. The fourteenth century University Hall and the eighteenth century library wing of ancient manuscripts were devastated on the 25th August 1914, destroying three hundred thousand books and a thousand manuscripts.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Despite the issues, the engineer in Jakarta did not brief the pilot of flight JT610 about the “very serious” problems with the expectation that he would read the maintenance log.

    That’s the problem with written instructions. No-one ever reads them.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    A flippant Ken Henry could prove a liability at NAB

    Interesting to see a hitherto insider like Henry get the treatment. Having jumped from the ALP Treasury to an ebil bank he’s gone from being a protected species to out in the cold where class-enemies gnash their teeth.

    I actually see Henry as an asset for NAB because chairthing is a fairly unsubstantial posting, yet he can probably still leverage a degree of protection for NAB when Shorten and his Marxist staff-kiddies get the reins next year.

  160. DrBeauGan

    Yeah, I thought it was bird, too. Mathematical and technical ignorance combined with smugness and an unwarranted sense of intellectual superiority. It’s his tell.

    Although it might be Ken Henry.

  161. OldOzzie

    Endangered Species Habitat Check

    The Supreme Court rules 8-0 against a federal land grab for the dusky gopher frog.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    Amid all the hand-wringing about a polarized Supreme Court, note Tuesday’s unanimous decision for regulatory sanity. The case concerned whether a frog’s “critical habitat” can include land where the frog doesn’t live and can’t survive.

    Weyerhaeuser v. U.S. Fish and Wildlife involves more than 1,500 acres in Louisiana that the government declared “critical habitat” for the dusky gopher frog, which is protected under the Endangered Species Act. Two problems: The critter hasn’t been seen in those parts for about five decades, and it can’t survive on the land without clearing forest canopy.

    The timber company that operates on the land sued on the sensible grounds that the place can’t be critical habitat if the creature would die on arrival. The law allows Fish and Wildlife to designate certain unoccupied areas as critical habit but only if they’re essential to the conservation of the species. The designation threatens development on the land and could cost the owners $34 million by the government’s estimates.

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled for the government in a decision with no limiting principle—by the circuit’s logic, a desert could be critical habitat for a fish, as more than a dozen state attorneys general pointed out in an amicus brief to the Supreme Court.

    The Supremes ruled for the land owners 8-0. (Justice Brett Kavanaugh wasn’t seated at the time of oral argument.) Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the Court that “according to the ordinary understanding of how adjectives work, ‘critical habitat’ must also be ‘habitat.’” The case is sent back to the circuit court to consider if the land is habitat, among other questions.

    The Justices also ruled that the critical habitat designation is subject to judicial review. One mystery is why the Trump Justice Department defended such an expansive interpretation of the law. Maybe the next Attorney General can take the career bureaucracy off autopilot.

    The Justices could revisit the case if the Fifth Circuit muffs the Court’s questions. Meantime, the dusky gopher frog would have a better chance of surviving in more places if the Endangered Species Act gave private land owners an incentive to protect wildlife rather than subjecting them to years of federal legal harassment.

  162. According to our estimates, for that intensity and that duration, that’s the sort of rainfall you’d expect to occur about once every 100 years for that particular site,” she said.

    Yep. It’s the ‘science’ of feelz.

    When I was a baby, we had the previous year’s total rainfall in 50 minutes. These people are liars.

  163. Excellent inter-generational advice:

    Beware of book burners.

  164. Makka

    But his fate ultimately lies in the hands of the bank’s shareholders,

    Not just his fate. Scummo fought Labor tooth and nail before giving in kicking and screaming to this RC. The arrogance, incompetence, ineptitude, greed and open contempt displayed by these bankster arseholes as they skim and scam their way into obscene bonuses at customer expense is going to provide good ammo for Tits when they face off for the GE. Maaaates on all sides.

  165. OldOzzie

    Ways to Make Putin Pay for Ukraine

    Cancel the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and don’t canoodle at the G-20.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    Russia’s attack against Ukraine over the weekend marks a notable escalation: Russian forces, under Russian flags, openly assaulted their western neighbor. President Trump said he was “not happy,” while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo condemned “this aggressive Russian action.” Strong rhetoric helps, but there’s also scope for concrete action—especially if the U.S. and Europe cooperate.

    A start would deny Mr. Putin the international respect he craves, and this week’s G-20 summit in Argentina offers a chance to isolate the Russian leader. President Trump can call off his meeting with Mr. Putin pending a substantive gesture, such as release of the two dozen Ukrainian sailors Russia kidnapped in its skirmish. Such leverage is more effective than whatever charm Mr. Trump thinks he can deploy against Mr. Putin.

    Russia’s economy is another vulnerability the West can exploit. Congress is considering new financial sanctions, and targeting a major Russian bank or banning U.S. investment in Russian government debt would add stress on Mr. Putin’s regime.

    Such sanctions will work best if implemented in coordination with Europe. New measures will be a tough sell in countries like Italy and Greece. Yet recent months also have brought a new awareness of the threat of Russian espionage across Europe, which could concentrate some minds.

    Germany deserves a special mention, as Berlin enjoys considerable leverage thanks to the proposed Nord Stream 2 pipeline that would carry natural gas from Russia to the West. Mr. Putin hopes this conduit through the Baltic Sea will tighten his energy grip on Western Europe while allowing him to cut off Ukraine and other Eastern European states from gas-transit revenues.

    But the project isn’t necessary, especially with U.S. natural-gas exports increasing. Now is a good moment for Chancellor Angela Merkel to revisit her government’s approval. It’s notable that leaders of the Green Party, now Germany’s second-largest party by some measures, oppose the pipeline. Green leader Cem Ozdemir warned earlier this year, “If we want Putin to take us seriously again, then just stop the Baltic Sea pipeline Nord Stream 2.”

    NATO needn’t directly defend Ukraine, which isn’t an alliance member. But increasing its presence in the Black Sea is worth considering as a show of solidarity. Washington and allies also can heighten the potential costs of future Russian actions around the Sea of Azov by selling Kiev more lethal military assistance, such as antiship missiles.

    Ukraine’s Russia problem is a more urgent version of everyone else’s. Mr. Putin wants to expand his influence from the Arctic Circle to Africa. Absent a forceful response to the weekend’s events, more Russian affronts will come soon enough.

  166. Des Deskperson

    Or the cabinet secretaries. Much smarter and better educated than the politicians, but nothing like as smart and educated as they needed to be. Or thought they were.’

    Here’s the list from the last 40 years

    Sir Geoffrey Yeend,
    Mike Codd,
    Dr Michael Keating
    Max Moore-Wilton,
    Dr Peter Shergold,
    Terry Moran,
    Dr Ian Watt,
    Michael Thawley,
    Dr Martin Parkinson,

    Yeend was old-style public service who served both Frazer and Hawke. Codd came up through PM&C. Mike Keating was Paul Keating’s Secretary at Treasury, and by all accounts a ‘mate’. Moore-Wilton was a Howard loyalist brought in from outside – though he originally worked at the old Department of Trade . Shergold, aka ‘Shitshark’ was a lightweight whose idea of policy analysis was to have someone surf the net but good at telling Howard what he wanted to hear, Moran was one of those apparatchiks who follow Labor governments around the country as they win or lose office, Watt was by all accounts competent enough, Parkinson and Thawley are after my time.

  167. C.L.

    As Queensland burns, the state’s affirmative action Fire Commissioner Katarina Carroll addresses the media. She has never fought a fire in her life. Never been a fireman.

    However …

    She is a member of the Australian and AFAC Male Champions of Change, which works to advance gender equity, inclusive cultures and to achieve significant and sustainable improvements in the representation of women across Australasia.

  168. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No probs dot, he will make the mistake of uttering the words in Louvain whilst on holiday

    Or Aarschot, or Andenne, or Tamines or anywhere else an invading German Army considered the Belgium resistance “illegitimate.” Barbara Tuchman’s book “The Guns of August” gets quite poetical on the issue.

  169. Snoopy

    TheirABC was very upset with Ken Henry this morning. I may have to review my assessment of him. I think he may have spent some preparation time watching old Kerry Packer videos.

  170. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Wow. This is real life Graeme

    Yes, that high-flown name E Michael Mc etc. does sound rather Birdlike.
    Similarly the curious sort of paranoia about world domination by a religious group.
    Sinc! What think you?

  171. JC

    It’s pretty incredible what came out of the Banking woyal comish. Mac bank’s CEO must have spent all of 30 minutes in the witness box giving evidence. He explained the distinction between his bank and the rest of the lugheads. He told the woyals, his bank doesn’t pay compensation based on sales and is much more complex than that. In all my life, I can’t believe the lugheads were paying revenue based commissions. Someone, no more than a teller who talked a person into a mortgage would receive a sales commish. The commercial banks in Oz were always retarded and asking for freaking trouble.

  172. Senile Old Guy

    As Tim Enthoven observes, just a short time ago liberal democracies around the world were viewed to be moving inexorably towards a gender neutral future with the election of Hillary Clinton to the American presidency representing an international consensus on gender equality. Then in a dramatic turn of events a man perceived to be the symbol of western male misogyny was nudged into power without winning the popular vote…..

    Tim Enthovan appears to be a modern artist, so clueless. Trump was not “nudged into power”. He won more votes in the electoral college, which is how it works — and was designed to work — in the US. The popular vote is irrelevant.

    The depressing news from our survey is that Australia appears to be following the trend. Not only did the Australian Liberal Party fail to replace its outgoing leader and Prime Minister with a politician perceived by many to be the most qualified and popular person for the job, Julie Bishop ….

    How does Julie Bishop — achievements = 0 — become the most qualified person? She’s done nothing for decades, except wear nice clothes. And popular? She got very few votes for the leadership even in her home state.

    Who writes and believes this drivel? Who is the “many”? Bishop is like Turnbull, an LNP politician the left supports but would never vote for.

  173. Snoopy

    As Queensland burns, the state’s affirmative action Fire Commissioner Katarina Carroll addresses the media. She has never fought a fire in her life. Never been a fireman.

    She’d be well advised not to venture outside if there is lightning in the vicinity.

  174. cohenite

    Natural Instinct

    #2874442, posted on November 28, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    Late Night Live last night
    .
    First Bruce Shapiro’s fake news.

    Will Bruce Shapiro be reversing his 10 minute smirking, snarking diatribe against Trump and his supported candidate?
    56 to 44 seems a fairly good win, so not a “roiling trouble spot for the president”

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith on your big WIN in the Great State of Mississippi. We are all very proud of you!
    37.2K, 2:42 PM – Nov 28, 2018

    So more tax dollars wasted feeding the left-wing media. The sad thing is that my parents “trust” the ABC and my children are fed this rubbish at school via Behind the News program everyday, all with my taxes.

    And you can’t comment on the stinking site overseen by that bloated arsehole p adams.

  175. JC

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2874446, posted on November 28, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    A flippant Ken Henry could prove a liability at NAB

    Interesting to see a hitherto insider like Henry get the treatment. Having jumped from the ALP Treasury to an ebil bank he’s gone from being a protected species to out in the cold where class-enemies gnash their teeth.

    I actually see Henry as an asset for NAB because chairthing is a fairly unsubstantial posting, yet he can probably still leverage a degree of protection for NAB when Shorten and his Marxist staff-kiddies get the reins next year.

    The wombat whisperer’s arrogance is unremitting and infinite. Between his pension and the 700K plus he earns as chairman, this useless insider is taking home $1 million a year. This is the worthless prick criticizing shareholders for being greedy. In other words they are expecting too much from dividends.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Storm just came through, not much rain enough though to send the humidity from 30-90% though. QAS chopper did about 4 circles over the northern beaches dodging lightning bolts.

    Saw a nice ASX announcement today.

    Talga Graphene

    They’ve developed a graphene-carbon fibre FRP composite with 95% of the lightning protection of metallic copper, with only a quarter the weight.

    I don’t know if it is a business winner but they’re doing good practical science. I even forgive them their comments about protecting wind turbine blades…

  177. JC

    Might be a great composite for planes, Bruce.

  178. Natural Instinct

    JC says…

    Mac bank’s CEO must have spent all of 30 minutes in the witness box giving evidence. He explained the distinction between his bank and the rest of the lugheads.

    Just goes to show how useless the RC is. Macbank had very onerous penalty ridden get-out-jail clauses if you tried to dump their mortgages. Where they mentioned and/or examined? Thought not.
    Mac bank just demonstrating better stakeholder management of the regulator, oops sorry Counsel assisting.
    Just like the union superfunds’ conflict of interest seemed to have been given a pass, but oh-so-bad for-profits took a hammering.

  179. stackja

    Has Ken Henry ever faced the real world?

  180. thefrolickingmole

    Shy Ted

    You are going to hell for that pic! (funny but)

  181. Rae

    She’s coughing up a lung;

    Small things …

    Bubba sounded like he has a cold too.

    Earth shattering.

  182. JC

    Instinct

    Naaa… macbank is very expensive to deal with. However, the one thing they’ve always made sure of is their clients know this through the very clear paperwork they provide and the cost of dealing with them is made clear. If an error is made it would be at the institutional level and not because a just out of school bank teller is flogging a mortgage to a single mother without any supporting income other than a centrelink pension.

  183. DrBeauGan

    The wombat whisperer’s arrogance is unremitting and infinite.

    And quite unwarranted. He’s unreasonably pleased about being smarter than politicians.

  184. Notafan

    not because a just out of school bank teller

    I think they all have master degrees these days

  185. JC

    Instinct

    Macbank is very clear on its fees. It charges like a wounded bull and is extremely upfront about it. There is nothing hidden in the fine print. It also assesses the client and they decide if they want to deal with you. These days, it’s mostly an asset management operation and charges 1 1/2% of the loot you want them to manage. Can’t be clearer than that 🙂

  186. Snoopy

    Has Ken Henry ever faced the real world?

    Wombats are part of the real world.

  187. Natural Instinct

    JC there are some small business people and tradies on the Sunshine Coast who where reamed after the GFC that may not agree with you about Mac Bank “fairness”. The rates when up relatively high (c.f. the big 4) when the bank was in trouble, and the customers could not get out because of $10k penalties for termination.

  188. As Queensland burns, the state’s affirmative action Fire Commissioner Katarina Carroll addresses the media. She has never fought a fire in her life. Never been a fireman.

    She does however, have Seven shiny medals pinned on her chest.

  189. JC

    Notafan
    #2874474, posted on November 28, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    not because a just out of school bank teller

    I think they all have master degrees these days

    I must say though fan, that at the anecdotal level, particularly over the past year, the two banks I’ve had dealing with have been very obliging and very professional. The stuff I needed to get done was done on time, professionally and quickly.

  190. Tailgunner

    Cats&Kkttehs.
    We have to start our own party.
    Our constituency is the Adorable Deplorables.
    Excise on smokes, hooch and gasoliiiiin! Halted, pushed back.
    Corporate tax cuts.
    The Reaper to sort out the femocracy/cuck public service. Des, Joh, you’re on this.
    JC, you have to step up as our Dos Equis man leader. Or new RBA guy.
    We activate all of our politicals. Senate only.
    GoFundMe.
    Nothing but smashing shibboleths. From the Common Sense Right/neo-Nazi fringe.
    Then we can get some juice.
    There’s still plenty of smart Deplorables out there to grab.
    I work with these guys.
    SJW is not popular.
    Nothing but red pill trolling. Truth&Justice.

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – The banks know they are class-enemies which is why they nabbed (hehe) Anna Bligh for bankers association supremo. Always helps to have someone on the inside of the nasty side on your side.

    Henry was (g)nabbed by NAB for the same reason. It hasn’t especially hurt them because their share price is down due to them fessing up some baggage last year, plus the RC, the ALP brainfart on dividends and the jitters coming from Wall St. The NAB dividend has been stable and is currently a cool 11.4% grossed up (for Aussies…at least until Shortarse gets his grubby hands on the franking credits). I really should buy some more of them, but a Dow crash would crash us too, down to single digit P/Es.

  192. calli

    Wombats are part of the real world.

    Waste Of Money Brains And Time?

    They sure are.

  193. JC

    Instinct

    What you’re describing wasn’t a panic, it was a fucking stampede of elephants trying to escape through a keyhole at the same time. The GFC was a very unique period. The global banking system was essentially broke and if I recall correctly MacBank would have likely failed without RBA liquidity support. Since then they have revamped the operation and these days it’s mostly an asset management business, or at least that’s their core business.

  194. JC

    JC, you have to step up as our Dos Equis man leader. Or new RBA guy.

    That would be like a shark chasing a school of lazy fish. I don’t think I could help myself but be doing massive insider trading deals just before I set policy. 🙂 That’s like trader’s heaven.

  195. H B Bear

    Is the Hilldebeast dragging that syphilitic corpse around with her now? What a freak show. She should still run in 2020 though. You can do it Hills.

  196. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wombats are part of the real world.

    I suspect the RC has quite a few bankers shitting bricks like wombats.

    Scientists Reveal Why Wombats Shit Bricks (19 Nov)

  197. JC

    Bruce

    The markets are “bearing up” for 2019/2020 with consensus looking like there will be a global economic slowdown and a US recession in 2020. That’s the whisper, which now looks like the forming consensus. It could be right, dunno.

    But the thing is, if that begins to look like too much of pessimistic figuring and the global/US economy doesn’t falter the recoil could be massive and the upward adjustment occurring over a few days. It’s just something to keep at the back of one’s mind for now.

    As for the Australian situation, it looks a the Liars win the lower house. As far as consensus goes and the market discounting that’s pretty much of a done deal. But the fly in the ointment in my mind is to ignore the lower house to some extent as the real power rests in the senate. There’s not been much consideration given to that these days at least in the markets. The liars policies could end up faltering in the upper house.

  198. John Constantine

    Converted funeral barge loaded with live cattle, registered in Panama, tried to leave Victoria for Pakistan this week.

    Wallowing in calm waters, it had a few pitiful goes at getting out onto the open ocean, but couldn’t make it.

    Cheap and shoddy attempt to grab a buck, their Andrews Nazgul occupying regime rarely miss a chance to shut down an industry.

  199. thefrolickingmole

    Wombats are part of the real world.

    They shit piles of cubes.
    Literally.

    Millions of years evolution to design the universes most pointless pooper.
    Its the ultimate argument against intelligent design & evolution.

    Alien 1: “Lets give it great speed so it can outrun its predators”
    “Nah”
    Alien 1: “How about mandibles of death”?
    “nah”
    Alien 1: “poison sacs, spines, fluffy cuddleness”??????
    “nah”
    Alien 1: “Now stop playing with that rubiks cube and help….hey, Ive got an idea”….

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2018/11/wombat-poop-cube-why-is-it-square-shaped/

    And thus the wombat was born.

  200. Boambee John

    All that counsel assisting, Rowena Orr, QC, wanted — all that the commission ever wants from its witnesses — was for Henry to listen to the questions she asked and answer them.

    Instead, an arrogant Henry disrespected Orr and the commission by trying to bully her.

    The attempt failed — Orr is made of tougher stuff — but it was an angry, dismissive, snide and flippant performance.

    So, pretty much like his performance as Treasury Secretary after TA was elected, then? Not happy not being the omnipotent god-like figure, is he?

  201. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Mind you, wombats can be quite fast when they want to be.

    Didn’t notice them leaving bricks behind, though.

  202. Tailgunner

    That’s like trader’s heaven.
    Lol, that’s a No to the RBA then.

  203. JC

    Someone gave me a great book to read. It’s by a dude named Albert Jay Nock, titled “Our Enemy, The State”

    Albert even hated the US constitution because he believed it was a con by a bunch of dishonest fuckers out for themselves.

    Albert aims a lot of bullets at both Woodrow Wilson and FDR, who is believes were the two most evil architects of the modern state. It’s the state that he considered evil. Prior to Wilson, Nock believes governments ruled, but now it’s the state while elected governments have to get into line. That’s the swamp.

  204. zyconoclast

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2018/11/julia-banks-and-anne-aly-besties-feelthelove.html

    Health warning. Open, only if you have a strong stomach.

    They look like twins.

  205. Aly complies with the edict to educate no waeman past the age of eight.

  206. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – There’s a lot of things that could send the US markets into meltdown, especially NASDAQ where the FANGs are very vulnerable and ‘way overpriced. An antitrust bunfight would massacre their value.

    Emerging markets are very iffy at the moment.

    Argentina peso TUMBLES to LOWEST level against US dollar in almost two MONTHS (today)

    Turkey’s Erdogan targets inflation by hunting stockpiled onions (26 Nov)

    China’s debt issues seem to be fairly incendiary too, although how much of that is real I don’t know. They must be hurting in the trade war with Trump. Tariff wars can crash markets also.

    Then there’s the Ukraine-Russia thing, which could well go hot if Putin is suffering badly enough from the oil price collapse of the last two months. And if the EU/NATO wimps it badly enough that he thinks he has a chance. Wars likewise ain’t good for short term market prospects.

    We’ll see.

  207. thefrolickingmole

    Tailgunner

    You might laugh at his reply.
    But realize insider trading is 100% legal for pollies and their staff in the USA.

    Just imagine having a system where insider trading is illegal for business, but 100% legal for the fuckers that make the laws which affect those industries.

    Not that any insider information would ever be leaked between say… pollies & super funds which then donate to that political party…. Australia isnt corrupt!

  208. Not that any insider information would ever be leaked between say… pollies & super funds which then donate to that political party…. Australia isnt corrupt!

    And no NGO would ever donate to a political party that gave them a government grant!

  209. Cactus

    All this weather stuff makes me think you Sydney people have all gone soft.

    You’re lucky. We lived for three months in a rolled up newspaper in a septic tank. We used to hadta get up a’six in the morning, clean da newspaper, eat a crusta stale bread, go to work down the mill, for a 14 hour day, week in week out for 6 cents a month, and when we got home, our dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.

  210. JC

    Bruce

    Out of those, the mos significant is China. I don’t think the rest rank that much. Even if the FANGS take a hit, it wouldn’t necessarily follow on that the rest of the market would be held down permanently because of that.

    I wish I had hot dinners for the number of times I either heard or read China is going to go down hard.

  211. thefrolickingmole

    This whole article is a slog through the swamp..

    After a Pelosi staffer left to lobby on behalf of credit-card giant Visa, Pelosi delayed bringing to the House floor a bill to end lucrative “swipe fees” for Visa and other credit providers.

    The bill couldn’t have come at a worse time for Visa. It planned to launch an $18 billion public stock offering, so stalling Hill action became a priority. The San Francisco-based company curried favor with Pelosi by pumping cash into her re-election efforts, earning its CEO a rare one-on-one meeting with the speaker.

    At the same time, Visa offered her husband a VIP cut of the IPO. Paul Pelosi jumped at the offer, buying 5,000 shares at the $44 initial price. In a couple of days, the shares soared to $64. Pelosi later bought 15,000 more, raising the total value of his investment to about $5 million. In the end, the legislation Visa fought starting in 2007 was forestalled two full years.

  212. thefrolickingmole

    And no NGO would ever donate to a political party that gave them a government grant!

    Well it cant happen, we have the worlds best media to expose any such activities, including a frank, impartial and fearless government funded broadcaster!

  213. cohenite

    They look like twins.

    Twin what?

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    Hey:

    If the 300 – odd ‘First Nations’ crew were so brainy and all, why weren’t they building houses out of wombat bricks?

    And selling the surplus to other tribes for extra sticks or somesuch?

    Something smells about this……..

  215. Sinclair Davidson

    Hi Graeme
    Bye Graeme

  216. JC

    It’s funny, but they actually believe it to their core.

    You may recall the young Democratic National Committee staffer who, after the 2016 election, cried, “I’m going to die from climate change.” Or the Bloomberg columnist who said Exxon makes a product that “threatens the continuation of human life on earth.” Or a recent George Monbiot column in the Guardian in which he is chastened by a young woman who faces “extinction” because he didn’t do enough about global warming.

  217. Harlequin Decline

    ODE TO THE WOMBAT — Anon.

    As you pound along the track
    Eyes wide open and ears pinned back
    You may have noticed those queer square turds
    And thought if not expressed in words
    The pain of such defecation
    Baffles the imagination
    But it ain’t done to entertain us
    The wombat has an oblong anus
    So if at night you hear pained cries
    Outside your tent, feel no surprise
    With eyes shut tight, teeth clenched with pain
    A wombat’s gone and crapped again!

  218. JC

    It’s a new malady I’m including in the New England Medical Journal.

    Climate distress syndrome.

  219. Zatara

    But realize insider trading is 100% legal for pollies and their staff in the USA.

    Unfortunately, not entirely true.

    The STOCK act, passed in 2012, did indeed limit insider trading based on privileged legislative information by Congress. A year later it was quietly amended. It’s a pretty fair bet they didn’t tighten the rules on themselves.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s funny, but they actually believe it to their core.

    Yes, they do.

    Jeff Goldblum, Sting, Bill Nye Among the Celebs Joining Al Gore for ‘Climate Crisis’ Event

    Considering the carbon footprint of these people it’s amazing how they Believe they way they seem to.

    I hope they hold it in Chicago, which just had its biggest snow fall since the seventies.

  221. Zatara

    But realize insider trading is 100% legal for pollies and their staff in the USA.

    Whoops, mis-scanned that as ‘illegal’. The rest of my response is accurate tho.

  222. Baldrick

    Oh happy days 🎶

    Bevan Shields ✔ @BevanShields
    EXCLUSIVE: Liberal MP Craig Kelly plans to run as an independent at the next election and is considering quitting the party immediately

  223. JC

    Climate Distress Syndrome could be a growth opportunity for the Hotline, Bruce. There’s always opportunity even in the face of Armageddon 🙂

    New ad going up on the web.

    Are you climate distressed? Call the Hotline.

  224. thefrolickingmole

    Zatara

    That would be the amendment passed near unanimously which effectively completely removed the STOCK act provisions on the grounds of (I kid you not) national security.
    The law still exists, but they removed almost any chance of finding breaches.

    Genuine bipartisanship, designed to enrich all the pollies and their maaaates.

    On Monday, the White House issued a one sentence statement announcing the changes to the law.

    The President’s approval followed votes last week by both the Senate and House who “near silently” and “by unanimous consent” passed bill S.716, which gutted the law of the unfavorable disclosure requirements.

    “Congress really wants to get something done, it can move blindingly fast,” writes NPR’s Tamara Keith.

    Citing concerns over the “security” of posting the financial data online, the bill eliminates a requirement that personal financial disclosures of 28,000 high level federal employees be made publicly accessible online. It also reverses “two critical components” of the original act: mandatory electronic filing of PFDs by the president, his cabinet and members of Congress, and the creation of a publicly accessible database.

  225. Top Ender

    If the 300 – odd ‘First Nations’ crew were so brainy and all, why weren’t they building houses out of wombat bricks?

    My old mum went through one of those stages in the 1970s when composting was all the rage.

    Was going to give up the brick house and live in a hut in the woods.

    We all have too much in the way of possessions etc.

    Eat berries and stuff, and not kill da animals.

    This in Tasmania mind you.

    Me old dad bore it all patiently.

    They had a bash with chooks on the 20 acre property they had; goats, sheep, some cows, a horse which had been retired, pigs x 2 etc.

    The sheep fell in the stream in the middle of a windy rainy night and had to be hauled out with a tractor, as with the rain and all they weighed double.

    The chooks went off the lay and had to be despatched. “Wot, you mean they only lay for two years?”

    The goats ate everything in sight, including the hedge, flowers, and small trees.

    The horse died. Unsurprising, as he’d been hauling timber out of the forests for 20 years.

    The pigs were unspeakable in their greed and ability to break down fences.

    The compost heap was too much like hard work.

    Eventually the myth of the noble savage living in a forest Nirvana was realised to be all bollocks. The Greens were found to be delusional communists with a penchant for taking all and giving nothing. And the Labor party as foolish wealth-stealers and economic vandals.

    Here endeth the lesson.

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    EXCLUSIVE: Liberal MP Craig Kelly plans to run as an independent at the next election and is considering quitting the party immediately

    After the election of the Shorten Government, and the recession that’s sure to follow, I hope that this filth is pelted in the street – wombat poo only to be used.

  227. bespoke

    And to become a fetus, one needs permission to reside in someone’s uterus and put that person’s health in jeopardy.
    — Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) November 28, 2018

  228. H B Bear

    Prof van Wrongselen was j’isming the wrongology today and talking about a snap election. If SloMo loses another member of the HoR it might just happen. Particularly if the Lieborals plan to curl up into a ball and try to make it though to May next year.

  229. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bevan Shields @BevanShields
    EXCLUSIVE: Liberal MP Craig Kelly plans to run as an independent at the next election and is considering quitting the party immediately

    It seems he’s being de-preselected by the wets for his CAGW views.

    Craig Kelly, who has called out the global-warming scare, will almost certainly lose his preselection, too.

    That’s from Bolta in the Hun today (paywalled, by via the DDG summary).

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